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 Hello everyone and welcome.

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 In this video we are going to be a
 time of this section of the course

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 before we get into SOC automation.

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 It just came to me as I was about to
 begin that section that there is

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 a very important topic or I should
 say point of contention that I need

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 to go over and it really comes down
 to the interchangeable use of the

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 words or the terms incident handling
 and incident response.

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 Now this is so contentious, so I should
 say not really contentious but

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 it's obviously going to be a question
 or something that will end up used

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 interchangeably and you may not know that
 they are being used interchangeably

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 so you may think that incident handling
 is something that's totally different

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 from incident response and the truth behind
 it is a little bit more nuanced

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 and I'm going to prove this by referring
 you to a very excellent publication

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 by MITRE but without wasting any more
 time the objective of this video

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 is to sort of explain what each of
 these means but really to juxtapose

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 them against each other especially
 from the perspective of them being

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 sort of different or I would
 say independent processes.

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 So what I'm trying to say here is that
 in certain instances if used or

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 defined correctly instant handling refers
 to something that encompasses

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 incident response and I'm trying to
 sort of give you that information

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 so that you actually know when you're
 referring to instant handling or

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 when you're specifically referring
 to incident response and then as I

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 said I'm going to contextualize all
 of this so let's not waste any more

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 time let's get started.

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 So in the context of security operations
 incident response and incident

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 handling are two distinct but interconnected
 phases of the incident management

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 process. Understanding the difference
 between these two is crucial for

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 building an effective SOC workflow or processes
 right and it's also important

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 to understand the difference between them
 as they are often used interchangeably

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 and from certain points of view incorrectly
 they've been used interchangeably

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 incorrectly which means that some people
 or some groups may think that

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 they sort of refer to the same thing
 however you know from some quarters

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 instant handling is actually as we'll
 get into shortly a larger process

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 that includes incident response as a
 subset and that was sort of the core

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 of what I wanted to explain in the introduction
 but that begs the question

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 properly defined what is incident handling
 so incident handling refers

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 to the overall structured process of
 managing and this is the keyword

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 here preparing for security instance it
 includes developing policies procedures

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 and guidelines to detect contain eradicate
 and recover from incidents

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 and this is where the confusion comes
 into play because as you can see

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 it sort of includes or encompasses the
 incident response lifecycle workflow

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 and the phases therein and that's what
 confuses people but don't worry

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 it'll make sense in a few seconds or
 in a minute so the primary objective

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 of incident handling is to ensure that
 an organization is ready to effectively

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 keyword is manage and mitigate incidents
 when they occur so what is the

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 scope of incident handling well as
 you can see it's extremely similar

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 to that of incident response with the
 only difference being preparation

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 right and that's sort of the key differentiating
 point or factor so it

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 encompasses preparation detection containment
 eradication recovery so

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 in the case of preparation it involves creating
 playbooks training establishing

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 communication channels in the case of detection
 you know identifying potential

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 threats and attacks in the case of
 containment limiting the damage of

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 a security incident in the case of eradication
 removing the threat from

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 the environment you're already aware of
 this in the case of recovery restoring

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 normal operations after an incident
 okay so I've already sort of given

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 you ideas to what the key distinguishing
 factor is but let's take a deeper

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 look so revisiting the definition of incident
 handling as sort of a separate

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 you know defined process that is similar
 or is closely linked to incident

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 response you know defining that again
 but then juxtaposing it against

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 incident response so incident handling
 is a broader term that refers to

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 the process of managing an incident from
 start to finish including preparation

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 and these two keywords are very important
 planning and coordination of

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 all activities related to security incidents
 now if you remember in one

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 of the earlier videos I actually utilized
 a diagram which will go through

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 in this video that mentioned a particular
 role or demarcation that had

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 to do or that had to deal with incident
 response essentially managing

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 the incident response process right
 and that is in essence what incident

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 handling is right so the think of the
 role IR coordinator you know who

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 is essentially that is a role but the
 responsibility is to manage that

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 entire incident response process so
 incident handling can be seen as a

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 process that refers to that you know managing
 that entire incident response

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 process I know that sounds a little
 bit confusing and don't worry it'll

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 make sense at the end with the reference
 that I'm going to give you so

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 incident response in a company that
 you know users or defines and uses

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 incident handling correctly in terms
 of it being sort of all-encompassing

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 and inclusive of incident response which
 should be a subset of incident

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 handling in incident response is a subset
 of incident handling which means

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 it falls incident response falls under
 incident handling which in this

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 context focuses on the actions taken
 to mitigate and resolve the incident

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 after detection what that means is that
 incident handling sort of deals

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 with everything before an incident if
 that makes sense and all the stuff

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 that comes after whereas the incident
 response team and process deals

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 with you know when an incident comes
 in or when there's been an escalation

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 to an incident responder and they are
 essentially limited to you know

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 containment eradication mitigation all
 of that stuff but nothing before

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 that hopefully that makes sense so what
 are the key differences between

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 incident handling and response and have
 some aspects or key differentiation

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 criteria so we have the scope so in
 the case of incident handling it's

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 usually broad right if it is defined
 in a company where they say that

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 we have an incident handling process
 it's usually broad that includes

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 planning detection response recovery
 and of course improvement incident

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 response however is narrow and is primarily
 focused on detection response

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 containment and recovery so I hope you
 can see what the differences are

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 they're very minimal but the only reason
 why I'm differentiating it for

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 you is because again you make you may
 come into situations where these

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 two terms are not used to mean the same
 thing or interchangeably but actually

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 represent in the case of incident handling
 a larger process and incident

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 response is seen as a subset of that
 that's the only reason why I'm making

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 this video is to clarify it for you right
 now so that you don't get confused

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 in the future and you're able to actually
 tell okay they that person is

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 referring to incident response when
 they say instant handling and this

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 organization actually you know has treats
 incident response as a subset

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 of instant handling in any case moving
 on to the next comparison point

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 which is the emphasis what's the emphasis
 of instant handling preparation

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 coordination that's the keyword and
 overall management that's that's the

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 absolute that's the crescendo of that
 point management of incidents what's

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 the the emphasis of instant response
 tactical response and remediation

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 of incidents what's the goal of instant
 handling to build a strong foundation

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 for handling incidents effectively what's
 the goal of incident response

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 rapidly responding to and mitigating
 the impact of incidents what are

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 the activities involved in instant handling
 developing policies procedures

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 training preparation and instant management
 what's the activities in incident

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 response investigation containment
 eradication recovery and forensics

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 and now you can start to see that they
 really are you know two different

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 things very closely linked in fact you
 know inextricably linked but you

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 know they're referring to two different
 things really and this is very

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 important in any case what's the duration
 of incident handling it's obviously

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 because it's focused on the process
 and management of incident is going

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 to be ongoing what's the duration of
 incident response well in this case

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 it's going to be event driven which
 means it's only initiated it only

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 comes into play when an incident occurs
 that's when incident response

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 comes into play and it's there in the
 name what's uh and then we have

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 the responsibility so who is responsible
 for incident handling well incident

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 handling is typically overseen by the
 incident management team the IMT

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 as it's known and whenever you see a
 company with an IMT that means that

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 structurally they they uh they treat
 incident response as a subset or

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 a part of a larger process called incident
 handling this is absolutely

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 important so continuing on incident
 handling is typically overseen by

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 the IMT which may include SOC managers
 incident coordinators remember

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 that role it was in that diagram we'll
 get to that in the next slide and

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 compliance or policy specialists and you
 know the responsibility for incident

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 response incident response is carried
 out by the incident response team

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 IRT or CSERT whatever you want to call
 it or SOC analysts so now you can

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 sort of see the difference now again
 you might be thinking yourself well

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 no one uses the phrase or the term
 instant handling anymore and you're

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 right to a certain extent the popular
 consensus uh or it's very common

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 to see incident response used over instant
 handling and that's fine but

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 it's very important for you to know
 uh you know when you're dealing with

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 an organization or a SOC that actually
 treats them differently whereby

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 incident handling is sort of a larger
 process that is really to do with

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 managing uh the um you know the process
 of um essentially uh management

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 of incidents and then incident response
 falls under that so very very

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 important now this was the diagram I
 was referring to so if you remember

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 I added this role here called IR coordinator
 and it sort of encompassed

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 the uh really the SOC analysts and
 you know the incident response team

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 fall in tents and purposes and this is
 what instant handling is referring

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 to it's not referring to uh incident
 response as a process um it's really

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 referring to the management of the team
 um as well as the processes involved

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 in incident response or and of that
 incident response is a subset or a

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 subcategory it's a major subset or
 a major uh sub category but instant

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 handling refers to just management of
 that entire process of dealing with

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 incidents and the reason that is done
 as I've already explained is fairly

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 obvious at this point so to end this
 video um I'm now going to confuse

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 you even more by sort of providing proof
 of uh the there's really no consensus

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 of you know um on what term is the correct
 term to use and this is a an

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 excerpt or a quote directly from the MITRE
 um publication called 11 strategies

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 of a world class cybersecurity operations
 center this is by the MITRE

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 cooperation there's a PDF about 500 pages
 I've added a link to the slides

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 here please go through that PDF you
 don't have to read it all just go

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 through it and you can actually get
 to this particular quote but this

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 is how it reads generally the terms incident
 handling and incident response

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 are inconsistently used throughout SOC
 community so right there I've just

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 validated what I've said um and I actually
 added this reference slide

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 towards the end of me developing this
 slide deck uh you know having said

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 what I'd already said because I'm aware
 of this uh in consistency as it

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 were in any case let's proceed on in
 some circles incident handling is

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 considered a broader term than instant
 response and that's why I made

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 this video because when you get into
 those circles or into a SOC that

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 uh considers incident handling a broader
 term then you need to understand

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 why it is considered a broader term
 and where um and how it compares to

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 instant response in any case moving on
 suggesting it encompasses tracking

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 and reporting while incident response
 is specific to responding to the

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 incident itself although many SOCs
 call the function incident response

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 and that is true incident response is
 sort of the popular term and include

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 tracking and report writing in the function
 uh you know I just so I just

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 wanted to give you this excerpt or
 quote to sort of show you that it's

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 not just me or you that is confused uh
 you know you just uh it's something

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 that is very inconsistent it's not
 been really defined it all depends

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 on a plethora of factors what country
 you're in uh you know the maturity

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 of the organization all of that stuff
 in any case the reason I made this

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 video was to provide you with the info
 needed to remove that confusion

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 when you get into circles that call
 it incident handling so you actually

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 understand why they have these two separate
 but linked things now in the

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 earlier videos when I was explaining
 the incident response life cycle

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 or workflows you can see that I included
 things like um you know tracking

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 and report writing because that's generally
 speaking how it's seen so

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 in uh at least based on what I've seen
 um a lot of companies nowadays

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 just include those you know the management
 process and the tracking report

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 writing just you know as part of the
 incident response process but you

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 may still run into companies organizations
 that again have incident handling

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 that then has incident response as sort
 of a subset um you know of incident

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 handling in any case you know I know I've
 sort of uh repeated myself multiple

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 times but this is very very important
 because you can get really confused

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 when you see an article or a paper called
 incident handling and like what's

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 that is that even incident response
 and the answer to that is yes it's

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 just you know just how things are categorized
 so hopefully that clarified

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 to answer that question for you maybe
 a bit too late in the course but

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 there we are um so with that being
 said that's going to be it for this

