1 INFO-VAX	Sun, 02 Apr 2000	Volume 2000 : Issue 184       Contents:- Re: Building Shareable images (VMS,Oracle7.3)  RE: Debunking the B2B hype8 Re: DECevent ... (was anal/err on 7.2). Multiple copies. Re: DECevent V3.1 help needed ( Re: DecHUB 900 modules TCPIP$UCX_REQUESTC Re: DECUS, speakers, local user groups (was Re: Sign of the times.) C Re: DECUS, speakers, local user groups (was Re: Sign of the times.) , Re: Default admin password for MicroVax-3100 Re: Fatal drive error  Re: FTP for OpenVMS . Re: How to conntect from win2000 to PathWorks? Re: HSD05 DSSI Controller . Looking for major enhancements from 6.2 to 7.2 Re: Pathworks 6.0b AND Win2000 Re: Pathworks 6.0b AND Win2000* Re: Personal Workstation 600au - VMS only? Re: PowerChute for OpenVMSP Re: should BACKUP automatically dismount the first volume of atwo-volume backup 0 Re: VMS today: % users x-widnows vs VT terminals' Wanted: MicroVAX II, VAXstation 2000...  RE: Web based mail Re: Web based mail  F ----------------------------------------------------------------------  % Date: Thu, 30 Mar 2000 19:59:50 +0400 4 From: "Ruslan R. Laishev" <Laishev@SMTP.DeltaTel.RU>6 Subject: Re: Building Shareable images (VMS,Oracle7.3)0 Message-ID: <38E379F6.7DB0E86E@SMTP.DeltaTel.RU>   Hoff Hoffman wrote:  > i > In article <38E332C3.637558FD@SMTP.DeltaTel.RU>, "Ruslan R. Laishev" <Laishev@SMTP.DeltaTel.RU> writes: L > :       I have an OCI-application, which is supposed to be a shared images/ > :is activated by lib$find_image_symbol stuff.  > : M > :       Is there tips & triks how to build sharable images (which used OCI) $ > :under VMS by lnocic for example ? > H >   As for OCI stuff, donno.  As for the generic information on creatingD >   shareable images and using lib$find_image_symbol, please see theH >   OpenVMS Ask The Wizards area for the shareable image cookbook -- andJ >   that reminds me, I need to post an update to that document -- and alsoI >   please see Ask The Wizard topic 2486 for an example of using a COMMON K >   in C, building a shareable image, and of calling lib$find_image_symbol.  > , >     http://www.openvms.digital.com/wizard/  * 	My question is purely OCI/Oracle related.  $ 	$lnocic zzz.exe zz.obj,zz.opt/opt i  9 	The right is the option "i", as pointed me Dan Sugalski.   
 	Thanks Hoff.    > P >  --------------------------- pure personal opinion ---------------------------N >    Hoff (Stephen) Hoffman   OpenVMS Engineering   hoffman#xdelta.zko.dec.com   --   Cheers, F +OpenVMS [Sys|Net] HardWorker........................................+E  Russia,Delta Telecom JSC,                    Cel:  +7 (901) 971-3222 E  191119,St.Petersburg,Transportny per. 3                     116-3222 E                                               Fax:  +7 (812) 115-1035 G +http://www.levitte.org/~rlaishev/ .......... SysMan rides HailStorm +
    ------------------------------  $ Date: Sat, 1 Apr 2000 15:30:40 -0500+ From: "Main, Kerry" <Kerry.Main@Compaq.com> # Subject: RE: Debunking the B2B hype J Message-ID: <910612C07BCAD1119AF40000F86AF0D803B2BDF8@kaoexc4.kao.dec.com>   On the subject of buzz words ..   F tCommerce =3D buying stuff from cable companies using TV and new set = top  devices.: cCommerce =3D collabrative eCommerce - the next generation  H As Arne indicated, these are all just new buzz words for OLTP with web = based F front ends and improved business processes. Could even say EDI - the = next generation.   $ [Guess why IBM promotes the S/390 ?]   :-)    Regards,  
 Kerry Main Senior Consultant,
 Compaq Canada  Professional Services  Voice : 613-592-4660 FAX   : 819-772-7036 Email : kerry.main@compaq.com        -----Original Message-----3 From: Arne Vajh=F8j [mailto:arne.vajhoej@gtech.com] & Sent: Thursday, March 30, 2000 8:38 AM To: Info-VAX@Mvb.Saic.Com # Subject: Re: Debunking the B2B hype      Tim Llewellyn wrote:2 > Sorry to sound thick, but what exactly is "B2B"?   e-business =3D B2C + B2B B2C =3D Business 2 Consumer  B2B =3D Business 2 Business   9 those are some of the hot buzz-words being mostly used by ( colourfull computer magazines and PHB's.  ; If you have read the whole thread, then you will know, that  it is new names for old stuff.   Arne   ------------------------------  % Date: Thu, 30 Mar 2000 11:44:55 -0500 - From: "Peter Weaver" <peter.weaver@stelco.ca> A Subject: Re: DECevent ... (was anal/err on 7.2). Multiple copies. . Message-ID: <se714up1ni724@corp.supernews.com>  ! Peter Weaver wrote in message ... C >Paul A. Jacobi wrote in message <8braq9$chs$1@lead.zk3.dec.com>... D >>    Here is a list of recent questions and comments about DECevent >andF >>    Compaq Analayze.  The answers and responses were provided by the2 >>    DECevent and Compaq Analyze Product Manager. >>F >>    If you have any further questions and comments, please post them >here D >>    and I will forward them to the Product Manager.  Note that due of >busy C >>    schedules, I cannot guarantee that all questions and comments 	 >will  be  >>    answered.  >  >>...  >  >  > ... " >$ ca summ sys$errorlog:errlog.sys >sys$errorlog:errlog.sys! >    20    VMS Device Error Event & >     3    VMS Volume Dismount Message# >     6    VMS Volume Mount Message ! >     4    VMS Time Stamp Message ' >     1    VMS New File Created Message  >Ending process...% >$ ca analyze sys$errorlog:errlog.sys  >$ >      OK, my latest installment;  = I have been connected to HTTP://nodename:7902 since some time ; yesterday morning. I am on a page that is titled "localhost A (OpenVMS)." Every 10 minutes a new timestamp entry appears on the  screen.   : After a while the following items appeared in the browser;  @ 123.      ds20.errlog reports Problem Found: Memory Channel Link. Transmit Error at Wed Mar 29 13:53:19 EST 2000E 124.      ds20.errlog reports Problem Found: Control Packet Heartbeat - Timeout Error at Wed Mar 29 13:53:19 EST 2000 F 125.      ds20.errlog reports Problem Found: Memory Channel Phase Lock* Loop Error at Wed Mar 29 13:53:19 EST 2000 126.      ds20.errlog   D Where entry 126 came from I do not know. It mentions "DS20" but I amD on an ES40. Entries 123 through 125 all show me that the nodename isC "sabl28," I do not have any node name "sabl28" anywhere that I know F of. All three of these entries report "Local Time of Event: Thu, 8 Apr8 1999 15:45:38 -0400" (yes, 1999 that was not a typo) yet: SYS$ERRORLOG:ERRLOG.SYS has a created date of 14-MAR-2000.  . When I click on entry 126 I see the following;  D 1.  Tru64 UNIX CAM Event at Thu Apr 08 15:43:17 EDT 1999 from sabl28F 2.  Tru64 UNIX Asychronous Device Attention at Thu Apr 08 15:45:38 EDT 1999 from sabl28B 3.  Tru64 UNIX Panic ASCII Message at Thu Apr 08 15:45:38 EDT 1999 from sabl28 F 4.  Tru64 UNIX Asychronous Device Attention at Thu Apr 08 15:45:40 EDT 1999 from sabl28  C As far as I am aware, we do not have any Tru64 machines anywhere on E this network. Where are these errors coming from? - Wait a minute. As B I was creating this message I decided to take a look at something. Yesterday morning I renamed 9 SYS$SYSDEVICE:[SYS0.COMPAQ.SVCTOOLS.CA]EXAMPLES.DIR to be B SYS$SYSDEVICE:[SYS0.COMPAQ.SVCTOOLS.CA]EXAMPLES_KEEP.DIR because IB noticed that CA ANALYZE keep trying to read in the examples ratherD than default to the correct errorlog. I have verified that am on the: node that is in the SYS0 tree. I just took a look and saw;  ? Directory SYS$SYSDEVICE:[SYS0.COMPAQ.SVCTOOLS.CA.EXAMPLES_KEEP]   5 DS20.ERRLOG;1              4   2-FEB-2000 15:29:50.00    Total of 1 file, 4 blocks.  C Dumping that file shows me the text "sabl28." So I must assume that F somehow CA decided to read in an example errorlog and show it to me asF real data! PLEASE TELL ME THAT SOMEHOW I HAVE A PRE-BETA COPY OF CA ONA THIS SYSTEM AND THAT THIS WILL **NEVER** HAPPEN ONCE THE SHIPPING  PRODUCT IS INSTALLED!   D I am on an ES40 running VMS 7.2-1, the svctools_home:[bin]CA_cmd.exe  image shows me this information;  '                 image name: "DESTA_CMD" 1                 image file identification: "V1.0" 3                 image file build identification: "" 7                 link date/time:  2-FEB-2000 16:59:58.79 /                 linker identification: "A11-47"   F A thought occurred to me last night while driving home; Are the peopleD developing CA the same people who gave us DSN V2? These two products must be related somehow.     Peter Weaver   ------------------------------  $ Date: Sat, 1 Apr 2000 23:25:21 -0500) From: John Santos <jasantos@ultranet.com> & Subject: Re: DECevent V3.1 help needed= Message-ID: <MPG.135095bf8aad9933989766@news.ma.ultranet.com>   I In article <2000Mar29.111922.1@eisner>, kaplow_r@eisner.decus.org says... [ > In article <38E14597.97E3FE14@ins-msi.com>, Jeff Campbell <jcampbell@ins-msi.com> writes: ' > > Add the default "=today" to /since.  > >  > > It works when I do that. > >  > > Shouldn't HAVE to do that. > N > Interesting. It works if I leave off the /since, or specify /since=whatever,J > but /since by itself is definitely broken. Who do I report DECevent bugs > to???  >  > 	Bob Kaplow	  F I don't think DECEvent uses normal DCL parsing.  V2.7 & V2.9 (the two F versions I've used require a value on /since (don't default to today),G and they don't support my favorite (relatively) new value, /since=BOOT.   D I think this is because this stuff didn't come out of the VMS group.@ Code written by hardware engineers is always a little strange an inconsistent.  :)    --   John Santos    ------------------------------   Date: 2 Apr 2000 01:03:24 +0100 * From: eplan@kapsch.net (Peter LANGSTOEGER)1 Subject: Re: DecHUB 900 modules TCPIP$UCX_REQUEST * Message-ID: <38e68e4c$1@news.kapsch.co.at>  V In article <38D87D02.E9715527@multiweb.nl>, "E. de Leur" <edeleur@multiweb.nl> writes:I >How to set remote the ReadWrite communtiy string for DecHub900 backplane H >and the modules. Trying to use TCPIP$UCX_REQUEST to set these strings, >however: >the modules and backplane returns a Set Operation Error.4 >Somebody knows how to set these strings correctly ?  ( How about telling us, how far you went ?J So far, few of us are up to date and running V5.0A and very very few of usI do SNMP requests by hand (and most of us MS900 users use ClearVISN, which J does not support changing most/any of the IP related parameters remotely).   eg.  $ SNMP == "$TCPIP$SNMP_REQUEST" 9 $ SNMP hub900 rwcomm GET 1.3.6.1.4.1.36.2.18.11.2.5.3.1.0 ) 1.3.6.1.4.1.36.2.18.11.2.5.3.1.0 = rwcomm    --  < Peter "EPLAN" LANGSTOEGER           Tel.    +43 1 81111-2651; Network and OpenVMS system manager  Fax.    +43 1 81111-888 < FBFV/Information Services           E-mail  eplan@kapsch.netF <<< KAPSCH AG  Wagenseilgasse 1     PSImail PSI%(0232)281001141::EPLANH A-1121 VIENNA  AUSTRIA              "I'm not a pessimist, I'm a realist"N "VMS is today what Microsoft wants Windows NT V8.0 to be!" Compaq, 22-Sep-1998   ------------------------------   Date: 30 Mar 2000 19:25:51 GMT2 From: hoffman@xdelta.zko.dec.nospam (Hoff Hoffman)L Subject: Re: DECUS, speakers, local user groups (was Re: Sign of the times.)6 Message-ID: <8c09nv$2rd$1@mailint03.im.hou.compaq.com>  a In article <38E3A29D.213BB5C@vl.videotron.ca>, JF Mezei <jfmezei.spamnot@vl.videotron.ca> writes: N :What would it take to convince Compaq to recognize such a group ? Would it be< :possible to get some form of support from VMS engineering ?  I   We (OpenVMS Engineering) can provide speakers for groups of local users K   and for various customer meetings -- I've personally made three trips to  H   Ontario in the past two years, for various meetings.  (If you want to I   pursue an OpenVMS speaker for a meeting, I can get you in contact with  L   the person here in OpenVMS Engineering that coordinates these activities.)  L   As for becoming a Compaq User Group chapter or recognized LUG, that's not O   something that we (specifically the folks here in Compaq OpenVMS Enginering)  K   handle, nor something that we are in a position to grant nor are we even  M   involved with...  This would likely be something that would likely involve  H   the folks at http://www.decus.ca/ (also apparently aliased as the siteN   http://www.canacu.org/) -- based on the website, check with Cathy Zigomanis +   (cathy.zigomanis@compaq.com) for details.   H   I was asked about attending a session for a Canadian Symposium, thoughE   the (expected?  original?  actual?) schedule conflicted with other  G   OpenVMS Engineering commitments that a number of other OpenVMS folks  %   have during the month of May 2000.    N  --------------------------- pure personal opinion ---------------------------L    Hoff (Stephen) Hoffman   OpenVMS Engineering   hoffman#xdelta.zko.dec.com   ------------------------------  % Date: Thu, 30 Mar 2000 14:45:38 -0500 0 From: JF Mezei <jfmezei.spamnot@vl.videotron.ca>L Subject: Re: DECUS, speakers, local user groups (was Re: Sign of the times.)/ Message-ID: <38E3AEDC.EA9DD0B9@vl.videotron.ca>    Hoff Hoffman wrote: M >   As for becoming a Compaq User Group chapter or recognized LUG, that's not P >   something that we (specifically the folks here in Compaq OpenVMS Enginering)L >   handle, nor something that we are in a position to grant nor are we even >   involved with...    E But could you provide "user group" stuff to a user group which is not  accredited by Compaq ?      9  This would likely be something that would likely involve J >   the folks at http://www.decus.ca/ (also apparently aliased as the site >   http://www.canacu.org/)     K www.decus.ca was taken off a while ago, (no web presence), then that canacu K thing came up, and I just noticed that they now alias www.decus.ca. I guess E they realised the mistake of pulling off the www.decus.ca dns entry.    J Those are the very people that need to  bypass to get a working user groupL going. So the idea is to create an underground entity that would provide its* members more services than the real thing. (easy to acheive).   ------------------------------   Date: 30 Mar 2000 22:13:37 GMT2 From: hoffman@xdelta.zko.dec.nospam (Hoff Hoffman)5 Subject: Re: Default admin password for MicroVax-3100 6 Message-ID: <8c0jih$6mg$1@mailint03.im.hou.compaq.com>  A In article <38E3A4BC.5AF0698D@vrx.net>, Dan <dan@vrx.net> writes:   <   I'll (obviously) assume that this comment isn't a troll...  G :However, there are other "default" accounts with passwords, like  the  I :"field service" and "default" userids, for example. "field service" can   :be very helpful.   C   Yes, these passwords could be helpful -- unfortunately sometimes  B   even to complete strangers and to the occasional passing DECnet    network worm...   C   This "default" password security configuration is something that  ?   I recommend strongly against implementing.  If you happen to  A   (still) have this password configuration, please change it now.   F :Does anyone know if DEC/CPQ standardized these? I still have the old J :defaults with passwords from the vax11/780 days, but these have probably I :changed, or is DEC/CPQ still not giving these out (for obvious reasons)?   @   The default passwords assigned to the various OpenVMS-specific@   usernames were definitely not a secret -- they were referenced9   in the old documentation set and at various websites...   @   That said, we deliberately and explicitly removed the generic A   passwords for SYSTEM, FIELD, SYSTEST, etc., a long time ago --  @   any NETCONFIG or NET$CONFIG run in recent history will assign ?   generated passwords to the DECnet network usernames, and the  A   OpenVMS upgrades and installations all prompt for new passwords @   for (and will then check for any overly-obvious passwords on)    the core OpenVMS usernames.   ?   To get into an OpenVMS system when no privileged password is  <   known -- using the documented mechanism -- please see the >   OpenVMS FAQ and/or please see the OpenVMS system management    documentation.  -   The OpenVMS FAQ is available via a link at:   #     http://www.openvms.digital.com/   A   Discussions of forgotten SYSTEM passwords are still a mainstay  >   of this newsgroup, even with the entry in the OpenVMS FAQ...  N  --------------------------- pure personal opinion ---------------------------L    Hoff (Stephen) Hoffman   OpenVMS Engineering   hoffman#xdelta.zko.dec.com   ------------------------------   Date: 2 Apr 2000 03:28:06 +0200a* From: eplan@kapsch.net (Peter LANGSTOEGER) Subject: Re: Fatal drive error* Message-ID: <38e6a226$1@news.kapsch.co.at>  X In article <8bfmok$9qm$1@news1.xs4all.nl>, "Richard" <richardr@nospam.xs4all.nl> writes:B >I have a DECalpha 3000 model 400 which has openVMS 1.5 preloaded.  
 Quite old.  J >I've hooked up an IBM CD-ROM drive which is recognised in the SRM console
 >(DKA500:)  E Hopefully a 512 Byte/Block SCSI CD-ROM drive, or it will be unusable.t  H >I'm trying to install VMS 7.2 (hobbyist) version, but after booting theI >system from the CD-ROM drive I get a message to update the firmware to a0+ >higher revision using the Firmware CD 5.3.   K So, you booted V7.2 at least to the point where the PAL version is checked.v IMO the CD-ROM seems to be ok.  L >Because I don't have the Firmware-update CD I downloaded the firmware files >from ftp.digital.com   I You can download the M400_V7_0.EXE, copy it to a any SCSI disk and use it-L from there (via BOOT -FI M400_V7_0 disk) or download the M400_V7_0.SYS, copyL it to any MOP server (eg. another VMS system, an InfoServer, a Tru64 system)< and use it from there (via BOOT -FI M400_V7_0 networkdevice)  L >Now there is a problem: when I try to mount the CD-ROM drive under VMS1.5 IC >get a "fatal drive error" so I cannot copy the fwupdate.exe to the  >system-drive.  E I don't see, why a FWUPDATE.EXE should be the way to go in your case.l  H >Does anybody know if I have an incompatible CD-ROM drive or if there is( >another way to mount the CD-ROM drive ?   Your CD-ROM seems ok to me.e  > NOTE: You MAY need to do the FW upgrade in more than one step.: 	VMS V1.5 indicates that you have a very old DEC 3000-400.G NOTE also: You may need to upgrade your sandpiper (DEC 3000-400) beforeb5 	the F/W Upgrade or you end with an unusable machine.o7 	(IIRC You need SROM V2.1. The SROM V1.0 will not work.s> 	There was a note in the cover letter of some VMS version, but? 	nothing in the release notes or update/installation manual andgE 	so I got into this trap - shame on me, I did have the cover letter).s   --  < Peter "EPLAN" LANGSTOEGER           Tel.    +43 1 81111-2651; Network and OpenVMS system manager  Fax.    +43 1 81111-888s< FBFV/Information Services           E-mail  eplan@kapsch.netF <<< KAPSCH AG  Wagenseilgasse 1     PSImail PSI%(0232)281001141::EPLANH A-1121 VIENNA  AUSTRIA              "I'm not a pessimist, I'm a realist"N "VMS is today what Microsoft wants Windows NT V8.0 to be!" Compaq, 22-Sep-1998   ------------------------------  $ Date: Sun, 2 Apr 2000 00:07:02 -0600- From: "Sam Rozenfeld" <rozenfeld@nospam.dork>  Subject: Re: FTP for OpenVMS> Message-ID: <EwBF4.3231$sO4.407459@news-east.usenetserver.com>  I I tried that already. That is what we are currently using and this is the-K behavior I get from it. I have not been able to configure it (not even sureK3 if it is possible) to work right in emulation mode.g   Thanks. Sam Rozenfeld.    / Patrick MOREAU, CENA Athis, Tel: 01.69.57.64.40aJ <pmoreau@cenaath.cena.dgac.fr> wrote in message news:GwiEieDPCmwd@sable...E > In article <OzoF4.3790$s24.542341@news-east.usenetserver.com>, "Sam * Rozenfeld" <rozenfeld@nospam.dork> writes:
 > > Hello. > >nC > > Does anyone know of an FTP server for VMS which would work with 	 MicrosoftsL > > Internet Explorer (I know, I know - IE is not RFC compliant) and provideI > > good Unix emulation (i.e. hide version numbers and all the other goodn > > stuff).u > [...]oG > > 550-Directory [.DISK$USER.FESTIVAL] not found, Requested Action not7 taken  > > 550-Directory not found  > H > You can try MGFTP server (MadGoat ftp), you can configure it to have a< > unix-like behaviour. You'll find it at ftp.wku.edu server. >M	 > Patrick  > -- >:L ============================================================================ === I > pmoreau@cena.dgac.fr  (CENA)     ______      ___   _           (Patricku MOREAU) 6 > moreau_p@decus.fr (DECUS)       / /   /     / /|  /|J > CENA/Athis-Mons FRANCE         / /___/     / / | / |   __   __   __   __K > BP 205                        / /         / /  |/  |  |  | |__| |__  |__|  |  |K > 94542 ORLY AEROGARE CEDEX    / /   ::    / /       |  |__| | \  |__  |  |1 |__|, > http://www2.cenaath.cena.dgac.fr/~pmoreau/" http://www.multimania.com/pmoreau/ >wL ============================================================================ ===o   ------------------------------   Date: 2 Apr 2000 03:02:31 +0200s* From: eplan@kapsch.net (Peter LANGSTOEGER)7 Subject: Re: How to conntect from win2000 to PathWorks? * Message-ID: <38e69c27$1@news.kapsch.co.at>  ^ In article <38e3914f.64621260@enews.newsguy.com>, cajunmikemike@netscape.net (Mike M.) writes:E >Thank you .  I've talked with the CSC, here, and have downloaded them/ >patch, which consists of the following images:o >t >PWRK$LMAPISHR.EXE >PWRK$LMSRV.EXE  > - >I'll put the images in place tomorrow night.o   And now, did they help ?   --  < Peter "EPLAN" LANGSTOEGER           Tel.    +43 1 81111-2651; Network and OpenVMS system manager  Fax.    +43 1 81111-888 < FBFV/Information Services           E-mail  eplan@kapsch.netF <<< KAPSCH AG  Wagenseilgasse 1     PSImail PSI%(0232)281001141::EPLANH A-1121 VIENNA  AUSTRIA              "I'm not a pessimist, I'm a realist"N "VMS is today what Microsoft wants Windows NT V8.0 to be!" Compaq, 22-Sep-1998   ------------------------------  $ Date: Sat, 1 Apr 2000 22:10:07 -0500) From: John Santos <jasantos@ultranet.com>S" Subject: Re: HSD05 DSSI Controller= Message-ID: <MPG.135083f84ac62581989765@news.ma.ultranet.com>   2 In article <38e512c2.88455051@enews.newsguy.com>, " cajunmikemike@netscape.net says...6 > On Fri, 31 Mar 2000 07:28:28 -0800, "Wolf, Gerald J"% > <Gerald.Wolf@F22.Boeing.com> wrote:  > H > Are you saying that you are *currently* using a 4 and 9 gigabyte drive" > in a BA350 driven by an HSD05?   > A > Because I was under the possibly mistaken impression that HSD051= > controllers would not support anything larger than 2.1gb.    [snip]. I'm not sure if it is supported, but it works.  8 At work I have an HSD05 with an RZ29 drive in its shelf.> We bought the HSD05 used with no docs dirt cheap, this was the< cheapest way to add a big disk to a VAX 4000-200.  Setup was; an adventure without any docs, but it has been working finet; for several years.  Without the docs, I don't know if it isR9 really supported, but the CPU at least is on DECxxxCompaq ; maintenance, and they have never complained about it.  Last < time they were here, about 6 months ago, it was to replace a= dead RF35 on the same DSSI bus.  I'm not sure if the HSD/RZ29M; are on the service contract, though.  We might have decided67 it would be cheaper to just replace them if they broke.0   -- 9 John Santos8   ------------------------------  % Date: Thu, 30 Mar 2000 11:40:20 -0500h  From: David <please@don't.email>7 Subject: Looking for major enhancements from 6.2 to 7.2e8 Message-ID: <lp07esobaa9hcu0epu68j8iu9e3a0tqu6j@4ax.com>   VAX, not Alpha  ' From a user and programmer perspective.P  N I found a few online docs, but they only show the enhancements from 7.1 to 7.2! and that doesn't do me much good.n   thanks in advance.   ------------------------------   Date: 2 Apr 2000 04:59:28 +0200t* From: eplan@kapsch.net (Peter LANGSTOEGER)' Subject: Re: Pathworks 6.0b AND Win2000Y( Message-ID: <38e6b790@news.kapsch.co.at>  Z In article <38e1a638.166044619@news.unisource.ch>, bill@ruwel-mbe.ch (Stefan Bill) writes:J >On Tue, 28 Mar 2000 11:53:03 -0800, sroyer <steve.royer@ssq.qc.ca> wrote:> >>Any papers about pathworks and Win 2000 on digital website ? >Yes on , >http://www.openvms.digital.com/pathworks32/5 >is the "PATHWORKS 32 V7.2 Field Test Kit" available,L >with support for W2K.  F Come on. Don't confuse "PATHWORKS for OpenVMS (Advanced Server)" whichL is a LANMAN server with "PATHWORKS-32" which is a add-on software for Win32.  @ PWRK V6 just like V7 is a LanMan V3 server just like NT3.51/NT4.F Our NT folks here told me some time ago, that they want to upgrade allE NT workstations to W2K _before_ the servers to avoid various problems H caused by the changes to the active directory service with Windows 2000.E So, I expect some problems with PATHWORKS and Advanced Server running J with W2K PCs in the same domain, and I don't expect problems with separateJ domains. But I can only guess. I'd like to know the real answer either....   --  < Peter "EPLAN" LANGSTOEGER           Tel.    +43 1 81111-2651; Network and OpenVMS system manager  Fax.    +43 1 81111-888m< FBFV/Information Services           E-mail  eplan@kapsch.netF <<< KAPSCH AG  Wagenseilgasse 1     PSImail PSI%(0232)281001141::EPLANH A-1121 VIENNA  AUSTRIA              "I'm not a pessimist, I'm a realist"N "VMS is today what Microsoft wants Windows NT V8.0 to be!" Compaq, 22-Sep-1998   ------------------------------  $ Date: Sat, 1 Apr 2000 22:05:35 -0600) From: "John E. Malmberg" <wb8tyw@qsl.net> ' Subject: Re: Pathworks 6.0b AND Win2000o7 Message-ID: <1d0901bf9c58$b8335450$020a0a0a@xile.realm>   / Peter LANGSTOEGER <eplan@kapsch.network> wrote:9  B > PWRK V6 just like V7 is a LanMan V3 server just like NT3.51/NT4.H > Our NT folks here told me some time ago, that they want to upgrade allG > NT workstations to W2K _before_ the servers to avoid various problems J > caused by the changes to the active directory service with Windows 2000.G > So, I expect some problems with PATHWORKS and Advanced Server running-L > with W2K PCs in the same domain, and I don't expect problems with separateL > domains. But I can only guess. I'd like to know the real answer either....  I That is why I recommend putting the Pathworks Servers V6/V7 in a resourceLJ domain that trusts the NT domain.  It allows the NT usernames/groups to beL used on the Pathworks Servers, along with Administrator accounts from either domain to manage it if desired.h  I You are isolated from compatibility and finger pointing problems that can  arise from time to time.   -Johne wb8tyw@qsl.network   ------------------------------   Date: 2 Apr 2000 05:07:58 +0200r* From: eplan@kapsch.net (Peter LANGSTOEGER)3 Subject: Re: Personal Workstation 600au - VMS only?e* Message-ID: <38e6b98e$1@news.kapsch.co.at>  N In article <38E161B1.32AF179D@home.com>, Dave Grubb <dgrubb3@home.com> writes:4 >I can't find the old configuraton/sales literature,( >so I wonder if anyone might know is the, >PWS 600au was a VMS only creature, or if it >can be converted to TRU64?1  A Tru64 and OpenVMS do both use SRM (and NT did use the AlphaBIOS). ? Conversion from VMS to Tru64 is much easier than the other way,<1 because Tru64 supports more devices than OpenVMS.)H eg. My PWS433 has a Powerstorm 4D50T which works perfectly with Alpha NT. and TRU64, but unfortunately not with OpenVMS.  K So, I expect, you won't have any problems, but without more infos from you,-  it is not possible to be sure...   -- m< Peter "EPLAN" LANGSTOEGER           Tel.    +43 1 81111-2651; Network and OpenVMS system manager  Fax.    +43 1 81111-888)< FBFV/Information Services           E-mail  eplan@kapsch.netF <<< KAPSCH AG  Wagenseilgasse 1     PSImail PSI%(0232)281001141::EPLANH A-1121 VIENNA  AUSTRIA              "I'm not a pessimist, I'm a realist"N "VMS is today what Microsoft wants Windows NT V8.0 to be!" Compaq, 22-Sep-1998   ------------------------------  # Date: Thu, 30 Mar 2000 17:41:26 GMTs= From: system@SendSpamHere.ORG (Brian Schenkenberger, VAXman-)e# Subject: Re: PowerChute for OpenVMSa0 Message-ID: <009E7DCD.BA127A76@SendSpamHere.ORG>  S In article <8c00v1$58k$1@news.inav.net>, "William Ford" <wford@bwrcorp.com> writes:iJ >I have a modem on com2-tta0:, it flat will not run on com1-ttb0:. the apcL >smartups 700 would not run unless I move the jumper on the mother board andK >set the speed to 38400. I know the book says 2400 baud. If I didn't need aEK >modem on com1-ttb0: them I would not have to do all this other silly crap.aI >But if you want both then these there are the hoops the you have to jump I >though. I spent 2 days getting the dialin modem and ups working. The bigsM >deal here is the com1 is really for a vt monitor for the console, but if youaL >use DECwindows that frees the port up. and guess what - I wanted to put theL >ups there. If you can make it run without moving the jumper and setting the5 >speed to 2400 baud then you are a better man than I.     See:  http://www.tmesis.com:2798    J I've tried this on all of the available ports on my AlphaStation and it isK presently running on a port on a DS90M.  No modem control whatsoever @2400. 
 ----------5 Port  1: APC SmartUPS2200              Server: DS90M1o  F Character Size:            8           Input Speed:               2400F Flow Control:            XON           Output Speed:              2400F Parity:                 None           Signal Control:        Disabled Stop Bits:           Dynamic  F Access:               Remote           Local Switch:              NoneF Backwards Switch:       None           Name:                    PORT_1F Break:              Disabled           Session Limit:                4F Forwards Switch:        None           Type:                      AnsiF Default Protocol:        LAT           Default Menu:              None   Preferred Service: Noneb   Authorized Groups:   0 (Current)  Groups:   0   Enabled Characteristics:( Input Flow Control,  Output Flow Control
 ----------  J I've had it connected to a DS90TL, DS90L+, DECserver 200/MC.  The code wasJ also tested on several VAX (3900, VAXstation 3100m76/SPX, VAXstation 4000 I VLC, VAXstation 4000m96 and various other configurations in the field) on K their MMJ and standard "D" plugs.  The only thing that it was NOT tested onoK was an Emulex controller (in a Qbus VAX) which will only support 4800 baud o as its lowest rate.     K I asked around about the PowerChute for VMS.  I was told it was crap and it K only provided a shutdown capability.  In addition, PowerChute with featuresGK is given away for other O/Ss but APC wants to soak you for $400 for the VMSaJ version.  With the VMS version you can't even set the UPS parameters!  You3 have to settle for the defaults set at the factory.>      --N VAXman- OpenVMS APE certification number: AAA-0001           VAXman@TMESIS.COM   ------------------------------  % Date: Thu, 30 Mar 2000 19:01:57 +0200e+ From: Arne Bergseth <Arne.Bergseth@dnv.com>oY Subject: Re: should BACKUP automatically dismount the first volume of atwo-volume backup p' Message-ID: <38E38884.9E8C6573@dnv.com>t   Phillip Helbig wrote:t  H > When using BACKUP to write a multivolume saveset ON TWO DIFFERENT TAPEF > DRIVES, should it automatically dismount the first volume when it isG > finished (I can see the logic in this if only ONE drive is used).  Ifc > so, how can one prevent this?w >  > The documentation says:C >s= >    When you save data with BACKUP, the save set often spansr; >    more than one volume, creating a multivolume save set.d< >    When this occurs, BACKUP fits as much data as it can on> >    the first volume, then dismounts it. Depending on whether< >    you specified more than one drive in the BACKUP commandA >    line or if you are using a tape loader, BACKUP then does thes >    following:i >wF > Again, logical if the second volume is in the same drive, but not if# > more than one drive is specified.    Yes,D The original benefit of this behaviour was appearent in the old days5 when 9 track tape with 1600 fpi density was the rule.dB An RP07 disk with 700 MByte could require nearly 20 reels of tape,> so with 2 tape drives you could mount reel number 3 as soon asI the first the first reel had unloaded, while the second reel was rolling.  And so on.........  
 Arne Bergsethn   ------------------------------  $ Date: Saturday, 1 APR 2000 23:48 EST- From: Bryan Jensen <bjj+3@arlvax.arl.psu.edu> 9 Subject: Re: VMS today: % users x-widnows vs VT terminalsn, Message-ID: <8c6lrv$16hc@r02n01.cac.psu.edu>  < I use a VT equivalent myself (usually Zenith Z19).  My users4 all use X on Alpha/VMS - they do graphics - I don't.  . In article <he+hXvGeMCnQ@tachxxsoftxxconsult>,@    wayne@tachyon.xxx.424646.killspam.064d (Wayne Sewell) writes:N >I find the ability to roll back decterms to see lines that have been scrolledL >off the screen one of the most important features.  Can any of the straightM >terminal emulators do this?  The real terminals they are emulating certainlyk	 >can't.  > > K >Also, the ability to cut and paste between decterms is extremely useful asnL >well.  Since the decterms in question could be on different computers, thisO >could be considered a poor man's sysman "do" command.  In other words, you canSO >paste the command into windows on different nonclustered systems and issue thel >command on each.I  K I run all my sessions through the UNIX screen program so all this cut/paste K scrollback/sessions stuff in the emulator is moot.  Screen's user interfaceeJ is superior to all the mouse based interfaces.  I move around a lot (everyI day between home and work, occasionally to the wiring closet) so screen'sBD ability to move all my sessions intact between all VT emulating userD interface devices is a real win.  Also I don't lose anything when my user interface device fails.  I My users would do well to use screen on their VMS workstations - it wouldSH save them a lot of time when DECwindows crashes (daily) taking all theirH terminal sessions with it.  But they are resistant to change.  Please noE flames if you don't use OpenGL, you have no idea what a nightmare VMSM is when you add Open3D.v  K Of course, everybody is ticked off by something different which is why the eI user interface I love will be despised by others.  The thing that bugs medG about screen is that UNIX buffers terminal output without limit.  Thus,yE anytime I use ^O (or ^C) to flush output I might as well go for a cupoC of coffee (which is not good because I don't drink coffee).  It mayiF take minutes before I regain control of my terminal.  But this happensM less often than the DECterm problem (excessive delay holding output with ^S).h   ------------------------------  # Date: Sun, 02 Apr 2000 03:26:27 GMT   From: carbon <prodos8@yahoo.com>0 Subject: Wanted: MicroVAX II, VAXstation 2000...2 Message-ID: <010420002227045331%prodos8@yahoo.com>  F I am looking for a really cheap (free?), small VAX machine, preferablyE in the Boston area.  Please email me if you have one, or know of one,e# for sale.  thanks, I appreciate it..   ------------------------------  $ Date: Sat, 1 Apr 2000 15:32:34 -0500+ From: "Main, Kerry" <Kerry.Main@Compaq.com>  Subject: RE: Web based mailEJ Message-ID: <910612C07BCAD1119AF40000F86AF0D803B2BDF9@kaoexc4.kao.dec.com>   As a follow-on to JF's note -w  ? http://www.digital.com/info/SP6149/ OfficeServer V5 description-   Regards,  
 Kerry Main Senior Consultant,
 Compaq Canada  Professional Servicese Voice : 613-592-4660 FAX   : 819-772-7036 Email : kerry.main@compaq.com.       -----Original Message-----7 From: JF Mezei [mailto:jfmezei.spamnot@vl.videotron.ca]s& Sent: Thursday, March 30, 2000 1:49 PM To: Info-VAX@Mvb.Saic.Comt Subject: Re: Web based mailK     Clayton Kroh wrote:oF > have 6000+ users accessing their mail via this scenario. Now for theI > question; What products are available that would provide the users withiH > a Web interface into the mail stored on the Alpha system? I would likeJ > the users to be able to have full mail access via any browser on the WebJ > with the ability send and receive attachments. Please let me know if you8 > know of or have had experience with any such products.  E ALL-IN-1 (aka office server) lets you interface with PMDF for messagei routingv to internet.J It has POP and IMAP support, as well as a "plug in" for web-based mail. It is# fully capable of handling the load.   I Users can access the same mailbox (file cabinet) through a character cella* interface, POP, IMAP or the WEB interface.   ------------------------------  # Date: Thu, 30 Mar 2000 19:17:10 GMTc From: d.webb@mdx.ac.uk Subject: Re: Web based mail=) Message-ID: <8c0975$g9m$1@nnrp1.deja.com>   * In article <38E38CAC.B6BB933@clarion.edu>,, Clayton Kroh <ckroh@MAIL.CLARION.EDU> wrote: >pB > We are currently running PMDF V5.19 (with Pine) on an Alpha 2100 running E > OpenVMS 7.1 as our primary mail server. Currently the users sign on C > directly to the Alpha system and use Pine or use Eudora (POP3) toA accessG > their mail. This is a university environment so we have the potentialw toF > have 6000+ users accessing their mail via this scenario. Now for theD > question; What products are available that would provide the users withH > a Web interface into the mail stored on the Alpha system? I would likeF > the users to be able to have full mail access via any browser on the WeboF > with the ability send and receive attachments. Please let me know if yout8 > know of or have had experience with any such products. >s > Thanks >e > Clayton Kroh > Manager, Enterprise Services > Clarion University of PA > (814) 393-1673 > ckroh@clarion.edu  >l >n   Clayton,  7 Have a look at YAHMAIL from http://www.vsm.com.au/wasd/   B This provides a web interface using the VMS callable mail routines% and gives full access to all folders..5 It works with the WASD, OSU and Purveyor web servers.rE Yahmail is written and maintained by Mark G. Daniel the author of the  WASD web server.    H Version 1.3 will according to the documentation allow uploading of files> from the browser system and their sending as Mime attachments.  = (Unfortunately although the link on the above web page to themE documentation describes version 1.3 the actual download still appears2B to be 1.2 - I am writing to the author to try and clarify when 1.3 will be released).    
 David Webb VMS and unix team leader CCSS Middlesex University      & Sent via Deja.com http://www.deja.com/ Before you buy.u   ------------------------------   End of INFO-VAX 2000.184 ************************