1 INFO-VAX	Sun, 02 Apr 2000	Volume 2000 : Issue 185       Contents:1 Re: create your own personal SYS$COMMON directory  FTP for OpenVMS & Re: Identifying unfound target of GOTO Manuals for DEC 3000-400s  Re: Old vax  Re: PowerChute for OpenVMS Re: Sign of the times. Re: Sign of the times.* Re: Time To Add Timezones & DST To the FAQ Re: Tuning Pathworks/MacIntosh  F ----------------------------------------------------------------------  % Date: Sun, 02 Apr 2000 03:14:58 -0400 0 From: JF Mezei <jfmezei.spamnot@vl.videotron.ca>: Subject: Re: create your own personal SYS$COMMON directory/ Message-ID: <38E6F371.6BF40535@vl.videotron.ca>    "John E. Malmberg" wrote: M > Inviting auditors in on a system that you know should fail is a good method L > of career suicide.  Not only will the local management love you for making8 > them look bad, any deficiencies will be blamed on you.  M If you set it up properly, both management and auditors will see the audit as F an exercise to improve the system instead pointing/blaming the faults.  F With the recent attacks on some e-commerce sites, it becomes easier to9 sensitise management on the need to have proper security.   H > It can take a lot of work and testing to determine what privileges areL > really needed and what privileges are not.  If the application vendor does& > not know, how could an auditor know?  N If the application vendor says that his app needs SYSPRV, then install the appK with it instead of granting all users that priv. At the very least, you can K document that this privilege was required by the application for undermined N reasons and that pressure should be applied to the vendor to document why each priv is needed.   N A system manager has to know his system and that includes the apps that run on it.        > I > Instead of making the trivial change to their installation procedure to N > properly set the protections on the files, most vendors in the industry I amK > in seem to want to stonewall and claim that making that change will delay I > the project by 3 to 6 months and add at least $10,000 in project change J > charges.  They will however happilly provide a letter for the managementN > that states that all of these privileges are needed for their application to? > run, so that management can get a variance from the auditors.  > I > So now you have blown the whistle.  Got everyone mad at you, and the it K > passes the audit with the special exception letter.  That has got to be a  > good career move.  > F > If you are there when a piece of equipment is put in and can set theF > policies it is one thing, but when you start out in a damage controlK > situation and can have your contract terminated by annoying the permanent 2 > staff, you are limited to an educational policy. > N > And the simpler the policy the better.  And from my many years of experienceL > in training engineers and programmers on how to use and manage VMS, searchA > list logical names are one concept that they have trouble with.  > K > It is easy to convince them that specific files belong in specific places L > and to leave the system root alone.  Especially after they kill a system a4 > few times by tampering with the SYSGEN parameters. > N > It is impossible to convince them that they do not need ALL privileges.  AndN > it is usually impossible to prove which one had the accident that caused the > files to be moved arround. > I > Attempting to remove privileges from someone is usually seen as a power K > play, and if they were there first, as these cases usually, they have the  > clout. >  > -John  > wb8tyw@qsl.network   ------------------------------  $ Date: Sat, 1 Apr 2000 09:24:39 -0600- From: "Sam Rozenfeld" <rozenfeld@nospam.dork>  Subject: FTP for OpenVMS> Message-ID: <OzoF4.3790$s24.542341@news-east.usenetserver.com>   Hello.  I Does anyone know of an FTP server for VMS which would work with Microsoft H Internet Explorer (I know, I know - IE is not RFC compliant) and provideE good Unix emulation (i.e. hide version numbers and all the other good E stuff). We haven't been able to find one that would work well in Unix K emulation mode. Currently we are using MadGoat FTP server but we are having L a lot of problems with it and most of PC based clients can't even change theH directory in Unix emulation mode. For example an attempt when logging inK with ws_ftp I get a directory listing which shows /disk$user/rozenfeld/ but : when I try to change it - programs would issue command CWD- /disk$user/festival/ and get a response back:   I 550-Directory [.DISK$USER.FESTIVAL] not found, Requested Action not taken  550-Directory not found    Any help would be appreciated.  
 Sincerely,   --
 Sam Rozenfeld  DLS Internet Services  847-854-4799 ext. 222    ------------------------------  % Date: Thu, 30 Mar 2000 18:57:43 -0600 % From: Milt Zlatic <mrmilt@inlink.com> / Subject: Re: Identifying unfound target of GOTO * Message-ID: <38E3F807.3908C9F8@inlink.com>  K It looks like you're going to foo (oh,oh) but the label is f00 (zero,zero).   ! norm.raphael@jamesbury.com wrote:    > [This is the right list] > J > If I invoke the comand file interactively, DCL reports the errant label.M > If I submit it to a batch queue, neither the accounting entry nor the batch  > log reports the errant label.  >  > CASE: I > I have a user in a captive account who has  a DCL menu.  Sometimes this O > user gets logged out with this error, but I am unable to identify the command P > procedure with the problem.  Cursory inspection has not led to identification,O > the possible paths are many, and putting debut displays in is impracticle and O > would mess up the production users.   To add to the confusion, we are running O > watcher against this account, so the user is used to getting sent back to the  > menuP > and thinks this is just a bug in that process that generates a logout instead. > See examples below:  > ========== > $ TYPE TEST.COM  > $! > $GOTO FOO  > $F00:  > $EXIT  > ========== > BATCH Process Termination  > ------------------------- G > Username:          NORM              UIC:               [HEROES,NORM] Q > Account:           MIS               Finish time:       30-MAR-2000 12:18:16.00 Q > Process ID:        278035B1          Start time:        30-MAR-2000 12:18:14.04 Q > Owner ID:                            Elapsed time:                0 00:00:01.96 Q > Terminal name:                       Processor time:              0 00:00:00.98 ; > Remote node addr:                    Priority:          1 B > Remote node name:                    Privilege <31-00>: FFFFFFFFB > Remote ID:                           Privilege <63-32>: 0000007F > Remote full name: B > Queue entry:       47                Final status code: 00038148 > Queue name:        SYS$BATCH > Job name:          TEST Q > Final status text: %CLI-W-USGOTO, target of GOTO not found - check spelling and  > D > Page faults:             7487        Direct IO:                 64D > Page fault reads:          34        Buffered IO:              145D > Peak working set:        1766        Volumes mounted:            0D > Peak page file:          7767        Images executed:            8 > ========== > $ type sys$login:xx.log  > $ TYPE SYS$LOGIN:TEST.LOG 0 > $ if f$mode () .eqs. "BATCH" then set noverify? >         It's Thursday Afternoon, MARCH 30, 2000, at 12:18p.m. P > %DCL-W-USGOTO, target of GOTO not found - check spelling and presence of label: >   NORM         job terminated at 30-MAR-2000 12:18:15.90 >  >   Accounting information: N >   Buffered I/O count:             139         Peak working set size:    1766N >   Direct I/O count:                60         Peak page file size:      7767N >   Page faults:                   7483         Mounted volumes:             0O >   Charged CPU time:           0 00:00:00.94   Elapsed time:     0 00:00:01.86  > ==========
 > $ @TEST.COM P > %DCL-W-USGOTO, target of GOTO not found - check spelling and presence of label >  \FOO\ > ==========   -- Milt Zlatic  9605 Carrimae Ct St. Louis MO 63126-2023  mrmilt@inlink.com    ------------------------------  # Date: Sun, 02 Apr 2000 16:56:07 GMT # From: "Craig Wood" <cswood@agt.net> " Subject: Manuals for DEC 3000-400s: Message-ID: <HYKF4.32753$dc2.320996@news0.telusplanet.net>  H Does anyone know where I can get on-line manuals, user guides, etc for a$ DEC 3000-400s (aka Sandpiper) Alpha?  @ There are on-line guides for the 3000-600, etc. but not the 400.  K From what I can tell the 600 seems similar to the 400 with the exception of F CPU speed, bus speed and SCSI through-put. Could I assume that the 600 manual would suffice?    Thanks   ------------------------------  # Date: Fri, 31 Mar 2000 02:55:14 GMT . From: Michael Austin <maustin@nc.prestige.net> Subject: Re: Old vax/ Message-ID: <38E4137F.FF5A5B7B@nc.prestige.net>   A Actually you may not be able to use those drives in your PC.  The H firmware may be the VAX-Only variant.  Why not use VMS at home... with 4G free web servers out there, it would make a great server.  If you don't  want them, send them to me.     4 CERN (to my knowledge no longer being updated)  FREE WASD         FREE  OSU             FREE APACHE     FREE    Michael Austin DBA Consultant   Antony Wardle wrote:   > Hi.  > * > Work is throwing out a lot of old vaxes. >  > Is it worth taking one home? > / > i don't really want to play with vms at home, , > but I thought I might be able to put linux, > on it. Anyone know if there is a vax port? >  > I have only heard of alphas. > + > the vaxes are vlc4000 and 3100m38 and 76. D > I thought I could just pull out the scsi drive and us it in my pc. >  > Antony   ------------------------------  # Date: Fri, 31 Mar 2000 01:43:53 GMT / From: StevenU@POBoxes.com (Steven P. Underwood) # Subject: Re: PowerChute for OpenVMS 4 Message-ID: <38e40070.82076217@news.ma.ultranet.com>  @ They tried to tell me the same thing when I was getting ready toE upgrade from OpenVMS/Alpha 6.1 -> v7.1 about 2 years ago.  We decided A to try it and then write our own if it did not work.  However, it > worked just fine right from the CD for us.  I don't know about OpenVMS/VAX however.  F I think I did find an alternate software solution that worked with theE APC UPS via an EXTENSIVE web search, but unfortunately never followed & up as just plugging it in worked fine.  C The interface is really rather simple and plainly documented in the B user manualwe received with ours.  You could monitor the necessary: signal on the comm port and shutdown on a change of state.  F We are currently waiting for our new ES40 to be running v7.2 which was> purchased with another APC SmartUPS.  Expected it 17-MAR-2000,B currently scheduled for delivery 03-APR-2000. We will see how that works.  
 Good luck,   Steve   1 On Thu, 30 Mar 2000 09:11:03 +0100, "Colin Scott" " <cps@lineone.nothisbit.net> wrote:   >Hi All, > H >I recently purchased a Smart-UPS and PowerChute software for a MicroVAXG >3100-95 running OpenVMS V7.1. On failing to get it working, and having I >spoken to APC Support, I discovered that PowerChute for OpenVMS does not K >work with V7.1 (and higher?). Their solution was to use a Unix Box and RSH  >(yuck!) > K >Does anyone know of any "similar" software either commercial or home grown J >that would perform the same task as PowerChute? Or perhaps someone withinK >APC has access to the VAX/VMS source code that they no longer appear to be  >upgrading.  > H >I do not believe it would be difficult to write a quick replacement for8 >PowerChute, but I do not know the protocol for the UPS. >  >Any Help Appreciated. >  >TIA >  >Colin P Scott >  >Hornby Scott Consultants Ltd. >  >  >    Steven P. Underwood,DNRC Whitinsville,MA  StevenU@POBoxes.com    ------------------------------  # Date: Fri, 31 Mar 2000 02:46:39 GMT . From: Michael Austin <maustin@nc.prestige.net> Subject: Re: Sign of the times. / Message-ID: <38E41173.7A500C08@nc.prestige.net>    JF Mezei wrote:    > K > Before that, it was running OSU on VMS, but the current chair (as well as M > Compaq delegate) was opposed to using "legacy" systems because it woudl not   A I really hate these self-proclaimed know-it-alls who refer to the S best/latest/greatest technology as "legacy".  If it doesn't say MS or Intel then it R is legacy...  what a crock.  After all VMS is actually newer technology than Unix.   Michael Austin Self-proclaimed VMS Bigot.% But is it bigotry if it is the truth?    ------------------------------  # Date: Fri, 31 Mar 2000 03:05:34 GMT . From: Michael Austin <maustin@nc.prestige.net> Subject: Re: Sign of the times. / Message-ID: <38E415E9.C2F0BB40@nc.prestige.net>    Tim Shoppa wrote:   E > few months ago about how all the VMS-specific filetypes got mangled  > in the process.  >   D <RANT WARNING:  One of these days I will tell you how I really feel>  T No kidding... I have tried to download many a .zip or .bck file and not been able toT read them. What kind of idiots put a VMS-related ftp server on a piece of trash like
 NT anyway? </RANT WARNING>   B Why does it take 3 people at a time to manage a single NT machine?        ? One for the <CTRL> One for the <ALT> and One for the <DEL> keys    >  > Tim.   ------------------------------  # Date: Sun, 02 Apr 2000 08:41:36 GMT 4 From: LESLIE@209-16-45-102.insync.net (Jerry Leslie)3 Subject: Re: Time To Add Timezones & DST To the FAQ ( Message-ID: <4JDF4.2351$eu.49140@insync>  , Harald van Pee (pee@iskp.uni-bonn.de) wrote: : Hoff Hoffman wrote: F : >   At present, the lone hold out to using the OpenVMS mechanisms isF : >   DECdtss -- DECdtss performs the automatic switchover and has itsF : >   own TDF stuff, though this is being changed over to a dependenceH : >   on TDF handling within OpenVMS.  C and TCP/IP Services all use theE : >   underlying OpenVMS timezone support -- get the OpenVMS settings 6 : >   correct, and restart applications as required... : G : I use a low configured DECdtss (Timezone is set correctly, no server) 3 : and ntp  (tcpip$ntp.conf with only server lines). G : Anything seems to work correct and the automatic switchover last week ) : seems to be no problem (MET-> MET DST).  : So whats the problem?  :  : Harald  E Our site is a DECNet Phase IV site. DECdtss is a DECnet-Plus feature,  which we'd like to avoid.   E Jerry Leslie  leslie@clio.rice.edu  (my opinions are strictly my own)    ------------------------------   Date: 2 Apr 2000 14:59:44 GMT 3 From: gartmann@immunbio.mpg.de (Christoph Gartmann) ' Subject: Re: Tuning Pathworks/MacIntosh 0 Message-ID: <8c7n90$4du$1@n.ruf.uni-freiburg.de>  3 In article <38E4D0BA.6AFDE526@ohio.edu>, you write: I >On MacOS 8.6 (and presumably others) in the Finder with a Folder open or  selecN >View Options... has a check-box for "Calculate Folder Sizes".  Any folder set  L >recursively to full depth in sub-folders, in order to calculate the size of th  > I >The problem here is that this requires user action to change, and recent  versiL >the ability to change it globally -- your users have to revise this setting fo   M I took me a while to find the global setting under OS9, but it is there. I am L typing this from home so I can't check, but I think you have to activate theL finder, click on edit, then preferences and there you have yet another "view	 options".    Regards,    Christoph Gartmann   H -----------------------------------------------------------------------+H | Max-Planck-Institut fuer      Phone   : +49-761-5108-464   Fax: -452 |H | Immunbiologie                                                        |H | Postfach 1169                 Internet: gartmann@immunbio.mpg.de     |H | D-79011  Freiburg, FRG                                               |H +------------ http://www.immunbio.mpg.de/english/menue.html -----------+   ------------------------------   End of INFO-VAX 2000.185 ************************                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                