1 INFO-VAX	Sat, 08 Apr 2000	Volume 2000 : Issue 197       Contents: RE: 1.6 GHz Alpha 
 Re: australia 
 Channel Count  Re: Channel Count ' Re: Compaq Song and Dance (the lack of) 1 Re: create your own personal SYS$COMMON directory 1 Re: create your own personal SYS$COMMON directory  Re: DS20 ADDON CPU FOR SALE  RE: ebay to drop Sun? 1 FILESERV@WKU: Updated DCLKEYS, new FRAGMENT, FREE  Re: Freeware MIME & LOSE WEIGHT WHILE YOU SLEEP!! (219180)( Re: Microvax 3100-96 4000-106A psychosis  Re: multiple qmans in a cluster? Re: OpenVMS Times * Re: Problem with upgrade from 7.1 -> 7.2-1& Re: Sun considers VMS a "mainframe" OS& Re: Sun considers VMS a "mainframe" OS Re: Tricks in CSV ?  Re: VRC16 Monitor Problem   F ----------------------------------------------------------------------  $ Date: Sat, 8 Apr 2000 13:43:07 -0400+ From: "Main, Kerry" <Kerry.Main@Compaq.com>  Subject: RE: 1.6 GHz AlphaJ Message-ID: <910612C07BCAD1119AF40000F86AF0D8052841CD@kaoexc4.kao.dec.com>   Phil,   G Big point to be made from this article - "Our products are for servers, J differing in design structure from the ones for general PCs from Intel and AMD," he added"    Regards,  
 Kerry Main Senior Consultant,
 Compaq Canada  Professional Services  Voice : 613-592-4660 FAX   : 819-772-7036 Email : kerry.main@compaq.com        -----Original Message-----2 From: Phil Tregoning [mailto:ptregoni@esoc.esa.de]' Sent: Wednesday, April 05, 2000 8:13 AM  To: Info-VAX@Mvb.Saic.Com  Subject: 1.6 GHz Alpha     From TechWeb News 4/4/00:   :   Samsung Electronics, in Seoul, South Korea is developing;   an Alpha microprocessor that will compete with the 64-bit :   processors of Intel and Advanced Micro Devices (AMD) and,   feature a clock speed as high as 1.6 GHz.   ;   Samsung will launch samples of a 1.4-to-1.6-GHz processor 6   this year, Changkyu Hwang, vice president of Samsung:   Electronics, said during a Korean semiconductor-industry   strategy symposium.   6 See http://www.techweb.com/wire/story/TWB20000404S0018   ------------------------------  $ Date: Sat, 8 Apr 2000 16:06:21 +1000- From: David B Sneddon <dbsneddon@bigpond.com>  Subject: Re: australia0 Message-ID: <06062122082000@domain6.bigpond.com>  . At 10:36 AM 07-04-2000 -0400, Bob Ricci wrote:M >will be installing a frame-relay line to Australia. Need to print from alpha M >host in US to a printer on the NT network in Australia. Compaq does not have J >ln16 's available in Australia. I was wondering if anybody from AustraliaK >can help me out as to what printers they are using with alpha/vms 6.2, and , >how to set them up on our network in the US >thanks  >ricci_r@subway.com    What is an "NT network"?> We have a network spanning most of the country (Australia) and= have no problem printing from a machine in Perth to a network , printer in Sydney using the telnet symbiont.> If it's just an IP connection, configure the printer/jetdirect box and go. = We use a variety of HP laser printers connected via Jetdirect  boxes.   Regards, Dave. I ------------------------------------------------------------------------- I David B Sneddon (dbs)  OpenVMS Systems Programmer   dbsneddon@bigpond.com F DBS software is at http://www.users.bigpond.com/dbsneddon/software.htmI "Life is what happens to you while you're busy making other plans" Lennon    ------------------------------  $ Date: Sat, 8 Apr 2000 17:43:44 +01005 From: "Chris Fisher" <Chris.Fisher@nationwideisp.net>  Subject: Channel Count? Message-ID: <K7JH4.607$hh6.22934@news2-win.server.ntlworld.com>   J We have lost our System Manager for reasons I wont go into. This leaves me trying to fill the gap!   F One of our software suppliers has indicated we have a problem with theK Channel Count. I know its a SYSMAN setting but dont seem to be able to find  it. L Which SYSMAN parameter do I use to show the current setting and having found it how do I change it?   TIA..................... Chris   ------------------------------  $ Date: Sat, 8 Apr 2000 18:46:00 +0200> From: "Jean-Franois Marchal" <jean-francois.marchal@x9000.fr> Subject: Re: Channel Count+ Message-ID: <8cnnno$dnj$1@minus.oleane.net>    $ mc SYSGEN  SYSGEN> use CURRENT  SYSGEN> show CHANNELCNT # SYSGEN> set CHANNELCNT <your_value>  SYSGEN> write CURRENT  SYSGEN> exit $  $ < Do no forget to update sys$system:MODPARAMS.DAT accordingly,H so the next AUTOGEN can take your modification next time it will be run.   Jean-Franois Marchal  X9000 - LYON      @ "Chris Fisher" <Chris.Fisher@nationwideisp.net> wrote in message9 news:K7JH4.607$hh6.22934@news2-win.server.ntlworld.com... L > We have lost our System Manager for reasons I wont go into. This leaves me > trying to fill the gap!  > H > One of our software suppliers has indicated we have a problem with theH > Channel Count. I know its a SYSMAN setting but dont seem to be able to find > it. H > Which SYSMAN parameter do I use to show the current setting and having found  > it how do I change it? >   > TIA..................... Chris >  >  >  >    ------------------------------  $ Date: Sat, 8 Apr 2000 09:22:48 -07005 From: "cstranslations" <cstranslations@email.msn.com> 0 Subject: Re: Compaq Song and Dance (the lack of)) Message-ID: <eGDqtaXo$GA.237@cpmsnbbsa03>   9 Terry C. Shannon <shannon@world.std.com> wrote in message   news:FsnwBp.1GG@world.std.com...J > As the source of Magee's speeds-n-feeds info, methinks Compaq is waiting for 0 > the >1GHz Alphae before it makes a big splash.  L Yes, but to what end? Compaq should be out there center stage beating peopleK over the head with this kind of stuff (Lord knows that place up in the left C hand cornner of the county doesn't sit around hoping for the best).   J I shouldn't buy a new PC today since I can't only get an 850MHz processor.L If I wait 6-8 months then maybe I can get a 1000 MHz processor (like we needL all that speed for Microslop Word - can anyone type at 1000 MHz?). With thatH line of reasoning 6 to 8 months from now I won't want to buy 'cause if I) wait a while I'll be able to get 1200MHz.   H With EV7 comming out (some where in the hopefully not to distant future)I >1200 I hope Compaq dosen't sit on it's collective hands because EV7.x is K comming out >y MHz z months down the road or because EV8 is on a "road map" < some where >2000 MHz (and "man that'll sure dazzle people").   Joe   	 > cheers,  > 	 > terry s  > B > "Larry D Bohan, Jr" <LBohan@dbc.spam_less..com> wrote in message. > news:zyTuOHHxxQ3preRLAMOGAoUxTYaE@4ax.com...2 > > Mr Magee  hits the nail on the head (for once) > > to wit:  > > 9 > >  * Compaq does not seem to make such a song and dance 6 > >    about chip announcements as Intel and the rest. > >  > >  > > 3 > > http://www.theregister.co.uk/000407-000005.html  > > * > > Posted 07/04/2000 9:30am by Mike Magee > >  > > ) > > Alpha chip powers Celera genome burst  > > ? > > Biotech firm Celera said yesterday that it has now finished < > > sequencing 99 per cent of the human genetic pattern, andC > > confirmed it will complete its corporate push during the course  > > of this year.  > > < > > Sources close to the firm's plans said it has used "massD > > quantities" of an as yet unreleased 667MHz Alpha processor, eachB > > of which includes 8Mb of cache*, incorporated in four way ES40 > > AlphaServers.  > > A > > Further, the next step of Celera's plan involves using faster E > > Compaq technology to put the sequences together to form the human > > > genome, thus giving it a massive lead over an alternative,: > > government sponsored scheme. This is probably Wildfire > > technology.  > > D > > The Human Genome Project wants Celera to share its data with it,D > > and is backed by both Mr Tony Blair, the English prime minister,E > > and President Bill Clinton, who currently runs the United States.  > > A > > Informed sources said that Celera has chosen Alpha technology E > > because of its number crunching capabilities, and it is not alone C > > amongst biotech firms in choosing the microprocessor over other  > > competing technologies.  > > E > > Sandia Labs has an installed base of nearly 3,000 Alpha CPUs, and < > > has recently added 1,300 AlphaServer DS10L Slates to its > > computing armory.  > > A > > Compaq is expected to formally announce its 667MHz-8Mb Alphas % > > during the course of next week. R  > > C > > * Compaq does not seem to make such a song and dance about chip C > > announcements as Intel and the rest. According to a contributor C > > on our Bulletin Board, these have been available for some time. C > > He adds that Alphas are particularly suitable for biotech apps. @ > > But the chips that are available only have 4Mb of cache. NowA > > wouldn't it be great if you could still get Alpha for NT on a  > > 666/8Mb cache system?  > >  > >  >  >    ------------------------------  % Date: Sat, 01 Apr 2000 22:36:47 -0400 % From: JM <vmswiz@geonospamcities.com> : Subject: Re: create your own personal SYS$COMMON directoryO Message-ID: <CE16F5B5E7F70E0F.8717856B30DE10CC.35C1A0B9A9D6B38E@lp.airnews.net>    John E. Malmberg wrote:  > N > The other issue with this system happens at a large site when you are forcedH > to give system privileges to people that can not handle the concept of > search lists.  > J > (Or you get called into a client site to fix a problem where most people > have SYSPRV)  A OUCH. That's a dangerous practice, and understandably out of your F control. New VMS sysmgrs, please note...DON'T give anyone privilege toD write to the system directories. If you want 99.999% uptime, and you* hate 2AM phone calls, heed the warning. :)   > M > The simplest thing to do is to get these people used to the idea of leaving ( > the SYS$SYSROOT area completely alone.  G I have a better idea, you know all those annoying internal and external E auditors that show up a couple of times a year? Give them a hint that E user privileges haven't been audited in quite some time. Auditors are A good at reading the VMS security manuals and figuring out what is  particularly dangerous.   D It's possible to turn an audit into a useful tool to stabilize a VMS environment.   :)   			*JM*    ------------------------------  $ Date: Sat, 1 Apr 2000 23:10:30 -0600) From: "John E. Malmberg" <wb8tyw@qsl.net> : Subject: Re: create your own personal SYS$COMMON directory, Message-ID: <sedl7fhn923@corp.supernews.com>  0 JM <vmswiz@geonospamcities.com> wrote in messageI news:CE16F5B5E7F70E0F.8717856B30DE10CC.35C1A0B9A9D6B38E@lp.airnews.net...   I > I have a better idea, you know all those annoying internal and external G > auditors that show up a couple of times a year? Give them a hint that G > user privileges haven't been audited in quite some time. Auditors are C > good at reading the VMS security manuals and figuring out what is  > particularly dangerous.  > F > It's possible to turn an audit into a useful tool to stabilize a VMS > environment.  K Inviting auditors in on a system that you know should fail is a good method J of career suicide.  Not only will the local management love you for making6 them look bad, any deficiencies will be blamed on you.  F It can take a lot of work and testing to determine what privileges areJ really needed and what privileges are not.  If the application vendor does$ not know, how could an auditor know?  G Instead of making the trivial change to their installation procedure to L properly set the protections on the files, most vendors in the industry I amI in seem to want to stonewall and claim that making that change will delay G the project by 3 to 6 months and add at least $10,000 in project change H charges.  They will however happilly provide a letter for the managementL that states that all of these privileges are needed for their application to= run, so that management can get a variance from the auditors.   G So now you have blown the whistle.  Got everyone mad at you, and the it I passes the audit with the special exception letter.  That has got to be a  good career move.     D If you are there when a piece of equipment is put in and can set theD policies it is one thing, but when you start out in a damage controlI situation and can have your contract terminated by annoying the permanent 0 staff, you are limited to an educational policy.  L And the simpler the policy the better.  And from my many years of experienceJ in training engineers and programmers on how to use and manage VMS, search? list logical names are one concept that they have trouble with.     I It is easy to convince them that specific files belong in specific places J and to leave the system root alone.  Especially after they kill a system a2 few times by tampering with the SYSGEN parameters.    L It is impossible to convince them that they do not need ALL privileges.  AndL it is usually impossible to prove which one had the accident that caused the files to be moved arround.  G Attempting to remove privileges from someone is usually seen as a power I play, and if they were there first, as these cases usually, they have the  clout.     -John  wb8tyw@qsl.network   ------------------------------  # Date: Sat, 08 Apr 2000 17:15:01 GMT $ From: Ed Wilts <ewilts@mediaone.net>$ Subject: Re: DS20 ADDON CPU FOR SALE, Message-ID: <38EF6914.8847CCBA@mediaone.net>  9 "Ken Fairfield; SLAC: 650-926-2924; FAX: 926-3515" wrote:  > / > In article <sel3g39ueop6@corp.supernews.com>, 7 >         "David Turner" <d_b_turner@yahoo.com> writes: P > > I thought this would be the best place to post this as comp.sys.dec seems to > > concentrate on older stuff > > @ > > We pulled this out of an almost new ds20 (same as ds20e cpu)  F I believe the part number is actually different.  I saw a catalog fromD another vendor a week or two ago, and they were selling CPUs for the+ DS20 and DS20E systems at different prices.   # >         Licensed for which O/S???  > > > > it was an smp upgrade but we can't find the license for it > J >         In my experience, all SMP  upgrades  for Alpha _include_ the SMPJ >     license  (for that CPU).  On VMS (and presumably, for Tru64), you doJ >     get a PAK that must be loaded in order to use that  additional  CPU.3 >     Without the PAK, the CPU is pretty useless...   G What makes matters worse is that even you may be able to prove that you E are entitled to a license, unless the original license was registered > with Compaq, you will have an almost impossible time getting a replacement.  B I've been working on getting a replacement SMP PAK for a 4100, andH having a really tough time.  I've got the local Compaq office working on8 it, but it's been at least a month and no sign of a PAK.  G At this stage, unless the vendor can supply the PAK for the DS20 board, : I wouldn't plan on using it for anything other than Linux.   --   Ed Wilts Mounds View, MN, USA mailto:ewilts@mediaone.net   ------------------------------  $ Date: Sat, 8 Apr 2000 13:36:33 -0400+ From: "Main, Kerry" <Kerry.Main@Compaq.com>  Subject: RE: ebay to drop Sun?J Message-ID: <910612C07BCAD1119AF40000F86AF0D8052841CC@kaoexc4.kao.dec.com>   Andrew -  L Just got back to reading newsgroup entries again after a few weeks off doing% Cust stuff, so I am in catch-up mode.   H >>> 4000 roundtrip transactions per second is impressive but as you have identified its not TPC-CH and so any competitor asked to respond to a press release from Sun couldK quite legitimately question the nature of the transactions etc etc etc. <<<   I >>> Since Kerry was good enough to publish the benchmark results for some H GS140/Wildfire DBMS comparisons it is also pretty clear that unless hugeJ gains have been made in OS optimisation since the benchmarks were run that< the 16 CPU wildfire would also be well short of the mark.<<<  L Is that 4000 small, medium or large transactions per second ? Whats the Read vs Write percentage?  H So, if it is not something that can be compared, how can you state a box0 from a competitor would fall short of the mark ?  J Anyway, here is one of the first official Wildfire benchmark numbers using SAP numbers:H http://www.ideasinternational.com/benchmark/sap/sap2tcs.html (as you canG see, it almost takes first place with half the number of cpu's that the  leader has.)   Regards,  
 Kerry Main Senior Consultant,
 Compaq Canada  Professional Services8 Voice : 613-592-4660 FAX   : 819-772-7036 Email : kerry.main@compaq.com        -----Original Message-----' From: Andrew Harrison SUNUK Consultancyt! [mailto:andrew.nospam@uk.sun.com]e' Sent: Wednesday, April 05, 2000 5:38 AMy To: Info-VAX@Mvb.Saic.Com  Subject: Re: ebay to drop Sun?     "Ebinger . Eric" wrote:n   > > -----Original Message-----+ > > From: Andrew Harrison SUNUK ConsultancyEI > > As for the article stating that users are feeling the limits of UNIX,sA > > come back and play with the big boys when you have an OpenVMS F > > box that can deliver 4000 roundtrip Oracle transactions per secondF > > into a single database image because that is roughly the peak load9 > > that eBays largest back end Oracle database sustains.- > >- >-K > Let's see '4000 roundtrip Oracle transactions per second'.  Now are thoserJ > TPC-C or some undefined transaction definition that is only sufficientlyH > defined for Andrew to use to denounce any response.  If they are TPC-CL > transactions then there seems to be some technology being used that is notA > being used in any of the audited TPC-C benchmark results.  4000 C > transactions per second is equivilent to 240,000 transactions perqC > minute (tpm) (which is the normal method of measuring transaction7> > throughput).  The highest results for the TPC-C benchmark isJ > 227,079 tpmC for a CLUSTERED Proliant configuration.  The highest singleB > system (SMP) result is 135,815 tpmC for an IBM S80 server.  (TheH > highest result for a Sun system is 135,461 tpmC for an Enterprise 6500H > cluster - single system max is 115,395 for a Starfire Enterprise 10000 > with 64 cpus.) >   = It isn't TPC-C and it uses a single database so the clusteredrB Proliant system which used a shared nothing architecture would not be relevant.   >HG > I'm really quite surprised that Sun isn't issuing press releases leftlF > and right crowing about how they have left everyone else in the dust > in database performance. >b  E I know it would be nice bragging rights but it is a specific customereC application and not a public benchmark. 4000 roundtrip transactionsgA per second is impressive but as you have identified its not TPC-Ca> and so any competitor asked to respond to a press release fromD Sun could quite legitimately question the nature of the transactions etc etc etc.  G I simply used it as an illustration of the kind of performance a singlevG OpenVMS/Tru64 server needs to be able to achieve just to be considered.r  ? I have no doubt that eBay would like to have a faster system soaA simply being able to match the performance of the existing systemk& would not really be a benefit to them.    > My guess and it is only a guess based on the TPC-C performance> ratios of the E10K and the existing GS140 machines is that the9 current systems would probably be good for 1300/1400 TPS.i  @ Since Kerry was good enough to publish the benchmark results forA some GS140/Wildfire DBMS comparisons it is also pretty clear that = unless huge gains have been made in OS optimisation since the-: benchmarks were run that the 16 CPU wildfire would also be well short of the mark.r     WARNING-WARNINGp8 As anyone who has examined the TPC-C and other benchmark@ results for things like the IBM S80 in any detail will know this; use of the relative TPC-C performance of the two systems is-; potentially highly missleading. But Compaq havn't publisheds@ SAP or any other benchmark results for the GS140 so its not that easy to find another measure.n   Regardsr Andrew Harrison  Enterprise IT Architecte   ------------------------------   Date: 8 Apr 00 12:04:14 -0500l) From: goathunter@wku.edu (Hunter Goatley) : Subject: FILESERV@WKU: Updated DCLKEYS, new FRAGMENT, FREE' Message-ID: <r98kV4y2KQF5@axp1.wku.edu>   I The following packages has been added to and updated on FILESERV@WKU.EDU,e! ftp.wku.edu, and ftp.process.com:       o DCLKEYS (Updated)  9 	DCLKEYS provides callable routines to define keys in DCL : 	(the equivalent of DEFINE/KEY and friends).  I ported the8 	routines to Alpha way back in '92, but apparently never9 	updated the FILESERV distribution (which probably says aS8 	lot about how many people use these ;-)).  I originally> 	wrote these routines to acoompany a VAX Professional article.      o FREE (New)o  9 	Displays the disk usage for mounted disks on the system:o   $ freeP Device Name      Volume Label   Type      Used Blocks     Free Blocks      TotalP ---------------- -------------- ------ --------------- --------------- ---------P $2$DKA0:         ALPHAVMS       RZL26    1803561 (88%)    247299 (12%)   2050860P $2$DKA100:       ODS5           RZ28     2936127 (72%)   1174353 (28%)   4110480  P Totals:                2 mounted disks    2426MB (77%)     727MB (23%)    3153MB $e  + 	Just a handy little tool I wrote long ago.b      o FRAGMENT (New)   : 	Displays free space fragmentation for a disk.  Originally< 	published on DSIN, this version has been modified to handle 	today's modern disk sizes..    O -------------------------------------------------------------------------------9@ You can get it via the World-Wide Web using a browser and any of the following URLs:a  . 	http://www.wku.edu/www/fileserv/fileserv.html  	ftp://ftp.wku.edu/vms/fileserv/( 	ftp://ftp.process.com/wku/vms/fileserv/7 	ftp://ftp.vms.stacken.kth.se/mirrors/wku/vms/fileserv/u* 	ftp://ftp.ctrl-c.liu.se/wku/vms/fileserv/ 	ftp://ftp.vsm.com.au/kits/h  O ------------------------------------------------------------------------------- ? You can get it via anonymous ftp from ftp.wku.edu; you'll need:   *         [.VMS]UNZIP.EXE or UNZIP.ALPHA_EXE"         [.VMS.FILESERV]DCLKEYS.ZIP#         [.VMS.FILESERV]FRAGMENT.ZIP)         [.VMS.FILESERV]FREE.ZIPd  > The file [.VMS]FILESERV.README contains a brief listing of all- the packages available under [.VMS.FILESERV].i  F The files are also available from ftp.process.com under [.WKU.VMS] and4 [.WKU.VMS.FILESERV], from ftp.vms.stacken.kth.se andG ftp.ctrl-c.liu.se under [.MIRRORS.WKU.VMS] and [.WKU.VMS.FILESERV], andM" from ftp.vms.com.au under [.KITS].O -------------------------------------------------------------------------------iB To get it via e-mail, send the following commands in the body of a! mail message to FILESERV@WKU.EDU:a  ( SEND DCLKEYS		!Comes as 1 180-block file) SEND FRAGMENT		!Comes as 1 180-block file % SEND FREE		!Comes as 1 180-block fileD@ SEND FILESERV_TOOLS     !Needed if you don't have MFTU and UNZIP  D Including the command DIR ALL on a separate line will return a brief< listing of all the packages available from FILESERV@WKU.EDU.       Hunter ------8 Hunter Goatley, Process Software, http://www.process.com8 <goathunter@PROCESS.COM>     http://www2.wku.edu/hunter/   ------------------------------  % Date: Sat, 08 Apr 2000 23:41:46 +0930e/ From: Mark Daniel <mark.daniel@wasd.vsm.com.au>  Subject: Re: Freeware MIME/ Message-ID: <38EF3E21.E95128DD@wasd.vsm.com.au>    "Frits A.M. Storms" wrote:  J > I am looking for a simple freeware tool to encode & decode MIME files on
 > OpenVMS.B > Could someone point me to the appropriate download site please ?  L Don't know whether you're looking for a full-blown Web email application butK my yahMAIL does MIME attachment decode and MIME attachment upload via a Webf server.  Have a look atr     http://wasd.vsm.com.au/wasd/   for yahMAIL.  E +-------------------------------------------------------------------+sD  Mark Daniel            Opinions my own ... and on loan from others.E  mailto:Mark.Daniel@wasd.vsm.com.au (Mark.Daniel@dsto.defence.gov.au)lE +-------------------------------------------------------------------+C   ------------------------------  + Date: Sat, 08 Apr 2000 11:44:06 -0400 (EDT)g7 From: "healthnut58801@cso.net" <healthnut58801@cso.net> / Subject: LOSE WEIGHT WHILE YOU SLEEP!! (219180)o) Message-ID: <90590.27887@healthylife.com>p   Lose Weight While Sleeping?i. Sounds Impossible We Know........BUT It's Not!  C Over 50 million Americans are on a diet of some kind, and most are tE frustrated to tears! Dieting doesn't work for the simple reason..... lH  If you restrict calories, the body goes into starvation mode and starts7 consuming MUSCLE for food and storing FAT for reserves!   ' DREAM AWAY was developed by an M.D. andc4 Is Back by Extensive Scientific Research.  A unique  combination of nutrients .....; Actually Instructs Your Body to Use FAT rather than MUSCLE!n: These ingredients work in synergy to help you achieve your.                     Health & Appearance Goals!  7 Just Click http://www7.50megs.com/els9 to find out morec    k This message is being sent to you in compliance with the proposed Federal legislation for commercial e-mailtn S.1618-SECTION 301). "Pursuant to Section 301, Paragraph (a)(2)(C) of S. 1618, further transmissions to you byh the sender of this e-mail may be stopped at no cost to you by clicking mailto:mmt7@india.com and placing REMOVE in the subject line.n ************************** 32885s   ------------------------------  # Date: Sun, 02 Apr 2000 07:13:35 GMTt8 From: Veli =?iso-8859-1?Q?K=F6rkk=F6?= <korkko@decus.fi>1 Subject: Re: Microvax 3100-96 4000-106A psychosiso( Message-ID: <38E61F04.799A6F0D@decus.fi>  D That's because they (MicroVAX 4100-96 and VAX 4000-106) use the veryB same motherboard. The identity can be corrected using console modeE DEPOSIT command to special memory location. 4xxxx model has different C unit requirements on licenses and supports DSSI busses whereas 3xxxr model ' has possibility for an add on SCSI bus.o   _veli.   "Jay T. McCanta" wrote:2 > G > Recently we purchased a used MicroVax 3100-96.  That's what the ordergG > says, that's what the model number on the back of the unit describes,lF > but the HW_NAME says it's a VAX 4000-106A.  So what gives?  I talkedB > to a Compaq tech about it and he says there is a listing for theB > 3100-96 in the VMS hardware tables so he didn't know why the box > didn't identify correctly. >  > I am running OpenVMS 7.1 > HW_NAME  VAX 4000-106A > HW_MODEL 487 > ) > Has anyone seen this?  Is it a problem?t > 
 > Jay Mccanta 	 > ImmunexeG > -===================================================================- ; > Jay McCanta              |  My opinions are barely my ownr= > System Administrator     |  My employer doesn't necessarily$) > Immunex Corp.            |  share them.cG > -===================================================================-e   ------------------------------  # Date: Sat, 08 Apr 2000 13:21:46 GMT / From: Hans.Bachner@altavista.net (Hans Bachner)y) Subject: Re: multiple qmans in a cluster? * Message-ID: <38ef303d.4504346@news.aon.at>  M "Jack Peacock" <peacock@simconv.com> wrote on Fri, 7 Apr 2000 11:53:49 -0700:   G >Is it possible to have a separate queue manager run on each node in an  >alpha vms 7.2 cluster?    <snip>  P Yes, this is possible. Look at the $ START /QUEUE /MANAGER /NAME=xxx descriptionL in the OpenVMS DCL Dictionary manual, and into chapter 12.8 ("Using Multiple7 Queue Managers") in the OpenVMS System Managers Manual.l  P Note, however, that multiple queue managers still use a common QMAN$MASTER file.O And you will still see all queues on all nodes, but you can restrict usage withn" ACLs (see Hoff's earlier posting).   Hope this helps,    : ---------------- speaking only for myself ---------------- Hans Bachner Compaq Computer Austriap+ Compaq Customer Services - Software Support  E-Mail: Hans.Bachner@compaq.comd   ------------------------------  % Date: Sat, 08 Apr 2000 18:47:05 +0010w% From: paddy.o'brien@zzz.tg.nsw.gov.aus Subject: Re: OpenVMS Times5 Message-ID: <01JO04TA4A9E004E76@tgmail.tg.nsw.gov.au>p  0 missed Alan's post, but Hoff replied thusly ....  K >In article <8chpkp$cn3$1@nnrp1.deja.com>, Alan Greig <agreig@my-deja.com> g >writes:8 >:In article <8cg9qu$3vd$1@mailint03.im.hou.compaq.com>,E >:A couple of UK Channel Partners I have shown this to are interestedwC >:in printing and distributing this themselves to VMS customers. Is " >:there any problem in doing this. >cH >  Not that I am aware of.  Have the folks check with Sue directly, and K >  she can discuss this with them -- we already make the masters available rK >  for Compaq-internal folks to download and print...  Sue can also likely pH >  get the folks pointers to other OpenVMS available "collateral".  (eg:I >  the new Compaq "OpenVMS and Windows NT Integration for Dummies" book.)e >SI >:Also there is a European print publication OpenVMS Now (Compaq Ireland) E >:very similar to OpenVMS Times which is not available on the web. ItpH >:strikes me that the two could be combined - perhaps retaining EuropeanC >:and US editions. Just wondering if you were aware of OpenVMS Now.i >mG >  Yes, folks here in OpenVMS Engineering are aware of the OpenVMS Now.iG >  (I don't know that are are (or are not) plans to combine the two...)   K You guys also have at least one bigot in the Antipodean region.  C'est moi.s  Q I have not been able to access any of these facilities.  At least I found no way h( to navigate the web sites to read these.   Regards, Paddy   Paddy O'Brien, Transmission Development,p
 TransGrid, PO Box A1000, Sydney South,  NSW 2000, Australiaj   Tel:   +61 2 9284-3063 Fax:   +61 2 9284-3050& Email: paddy.o'brien@zzz.tg.nsw.gov.au  M Either "\'" or "\s" (to escape the apostrophe) seems to work for most people,6; but that little whizz-bang apostrophe gives me little spam.y   ------------------------------  % Date: Sat, 08 Apr 2000 18:53:26 +0010 % From: paddy.o'brien@zzz.tg.nsw.gov.aut3 Subject: Re: Problem with upgrade from 7.1 -> 7.2-1a5 Message-ID: <01JO0515R0OY004CGL@tgmail.tg.nsw.gov.au>t   JF Mezei wrote:    >Charlie Hammond wrote: A >> Also, consider contacting your Compaq representative for help.f >tM >Are there still such things as "Compaq representative" customers are allowedh
 >to call ?  N Over here it appears not.  I was also under the impression that Compaq wanted O Digital for its support financial possibilities.  Again, here, they are trying o to get out of the support role.b   Regards, Paddy   Paddy O'Brien, Transmission Development,o
 TransGrid, PO Box A1000, Sydney South,  NSW 2000, AustraliaC   Tel:   +61 2 9284-3063 Fax:   +61 2 9284-3050& Email: paddy.o'brien@zzz.tg.nsw.gov.au  M Either "\'" or "\s" (to escape the apostrophe) seems to work for most people, ; but that little whizz-bang apostrophe gives me little spam.g   ------------------------------  # Date: Sat, 08 Apr 2000 16:57:40 GMTr$ From: Ed Wilts <ewilts@mediaone.net>/ Subject: Re: Sun considers VMS a "mainframe" OS , Message-ID: <38EF6504.49CCADC8@mediaone.net>   "Terry C. Shannon" wrote:u > 4 > "Bill Todd" <billtodd@foo.mv.com> wrote in message# > news:8cifa0$rk$1@pyrite.mv.net...iN > > Considering VMS a 'mainframe' system is not limited to Sun.  In fact, backI > > when the most powerful VAXen were in development, there was sentiment3 > within/ > > DEC that VMS was headed for that territory.c > >:K > > VMS certainly has far closer to mainframe-level support for things likeeD > > batch processing than Unices do, and in general may look like an
 > inscrutablerM > > mainframe-style OS to people raised on Unix.  Which is not to say that itdI > > competes directly with S/390 system variants across their full range.n > G > Remember the VAX 9000 (Aquarius/Aridus)? That box was positioned as ac > mainframe...  H Unfortunately, yes.  I had me one of them - a 9420.  One of the most (if6 not THE most) expensive lemons that DEC ever produced.   -- s Ed Wilts Mounds View, MN, USA mailto:ewilts@mediaone.net   ------------------------------  # Date: Sat, 08 Apr 2000 17:16:11 GMTc. From: "Curtis Rempel" <curtis.rempel@home.com>/ Subject: Re: Sun considers VMS a "mainframe" OS0: Message-ID: <vPJH4.33606$W5.329131@news1.rdc1.ab.home.com>  1 "Ed Wilts" <ewilts@mediaone.net> wrote in messagei& news:38EF6504.49CCADC8@mediaone.net... > "Terry C. Shannon" wrote:o > >a6 > > "Bill Todd" <billtodd@foo.mv.com> wrote in message% > > news:8cifa0$rk$1@pyrite.mv.net...uK > > > Considering VMS a 'mainframe' system is not limited to Sun.  In fact,t backK > > > when the most powerful VAXen were in development, there was sentiment 
 > > within1 > > > DEC that VMS was headed for that territory., > > >qH > > > VMS certainly has far closer to mainframe-level support for things likeF > > > batch processing than Unices do, and in general may look like an > > inscrutableUL > > > mainframe-style OS to people raised on Unix.  Which is not to say that itK > > > competes directly with S/390 system variants across their full range.E > >rI > > Remember the VAX 9000 (Aquarius/Aridus)? That box was positioned as ao > > mainframe... > J > Unfortunately, yes.  I had me one of them - a 9420.  One of the most (if8 > not THE most) expensive lemons that DEC ever produced. >n > --
 > Ed Wilts > Mounds View, MN, USA > mailto:ewilts@mediaone.net  L And if you're lucky, you can spot one on Ebay now and then for a few hundred bucks.  E Or just a CPU module to show your kids and unimpress your wife:   ;-)4  A  http://cgi.ebay.com/aw-cgi/eBayISAPI.dll?ViewItem&item=299634281-   ------------------------------  % Date: Sat, 08 Apr 2000 13:23:06 -0700i5 From: Graham Burley <100625.30@compuserve.com.nospam>y Subject: Re: Tricks in CSV ?1 Message-ID: <38EF952A.5DAD@compuserve.com.nospam>   B There's a ?symbolic link? (SLK) format that Excel will load & save that's@ akin to rich text format (RTF) for documents. The SLK can encode formulasE (using an X;Y notation) and formatting at least. But, when I looked ap few F years ago I couldn't find any documentation on the SLK format, and had to discover the elements I needed.i   -- i1 Graham Burley                                    I 100625.30-*-compuserve.com   ------------------------------  % Date: Sat, 08 Apr 2000 23:38:35 +0930e/ From: Mark Daniel <mark.daniel@wasd.vsm.com.au>n" Subject: Re: VRC16 Monitor Problem/ Message-ID: <38EF3D63.FCF87CF2@wasd.vsm.com.au>s  I That's the one.  Thanks guys.  My next problem is if I buy another (COTS)uC monitor, presumably one I can plug my PC into, can I (and with what'6 cart-wheels) plug the VAXstation and DEC 3000 into it?   David B Sneddon wrote:  6 > There are actually 5 BNC connectors R,G,B,H/C and V.8 > The cable I have on mine only uses the RGB connectors.  E +-------------------------------------------------------------------+cD  Mark Daniel            Opinions my own ... and on loan from others.E  mailto:Mark.Daniel@wasd.vsm.com.au (Mark.Daniel@dsto.defence.gov.au)uE +-------------------------------------------------------------------+    ------------------------------   End of INFO-VAX 2000.197 ************************