1 INFO-VAX	Mon, 17 Apr 2000	Volume 2000 : Issue 214       Contents:" Re: Algum brasileiro neste forum ? Re: DEC BASIC Open w/RRL set DN-V L1 routing licence  DN-V L1 routing licence  Re: DN-V L1 routing licence  Re: DN-V L1 routing licence ! Re: Dropping DECnet..don't do it! ! Re: Dropping DECnet..don't do it! ! Re: Dropping DECnet..don't do it! ! Re: Dropping DECnet..don't do it!  Re: faster/smarter FTP clients? 
 FS: AlphaBook L Re: How can you find the exact size of a file in bytes using a  VMS command?J Re: How can you find the exact size of a file in bytes using a VMScommand?@ Re: Safe Shipping (was Re: Warning: circuitsurgeon is a ripoff!) TCP/IP 5.0a stops the cluster ( Re: Warning: circuitsurgeon is a ripoff! Web server for VAX/VMS Re: Web server for VAX/VMS Re: Web server for VAX/VMS RE: Web server for VAX/VMS Re: Web server for VAX/VMS  F ----------------------------------------------------------------------  % Date: Sun, 16 Apr 2000 19:49:00 -0400 + From: "David Turner" <d_b_turner@yahoo.com> + Subject: Re: Algum brasileiro neste forum ? / Message-ID: <sfkk65h1ivv134@corp.supernews.com>   
 Ita vero !    7 "Pedro Viena" <contracer2@hotmail.com> wrote in message . news:20000415183224.43859.qmail@hotmail.com... >  > , >    Tem algum brasileito neste forum ?  :-)8 > ______________________________________________________8 > Get Your Private, Free Email at http://www.hotmail.com >    ------------------------------  # Date: Sun, 16 Apr 2000 22:50:07 GMT / From: "Tom Simpson" <simpsont@xxx.mediaone.net> % Subject: Re: DEC BASIC Open w/RRL set E Message-ID: <zsrK4.31904$h6.150759@typhoon.jacksonville.mediaone.net>   I OK.  Encouraged by the responses here, I did some testing and here is the G answer to my question...   Execute the useropen routine and execute the D sys$flush routine as required (and allow read on the log file open).  0             e% = sys$flush(rab_address by value)  @ I can now TYPE the contents of the log file while the program isK running and updating the log.  For some reason I thought it was going to be  more difficult.    Thanks for all the suggestions!    Regards, Tom   : "Tom Simpson" <simpsont@xxx.mediaone.net> wrote in message? news:Pu0K4.30102$h6.142832@typhoon.jacksonville.mediaone.net... E > Does anyone have an example of how to open a file in DEC Basic with E > the RRL (read regardless of lock bit set?)?   I think that's what I  want...  > H > I am trying to open a program log file so it can be examined while theJ > program is still running, similar to how you can examine a batch job log > file.  > J > I tried, but have not been able to get it to work so far...   Many moons ago L > I had a routine that would do this in Pascal but I can't locate the source > code for it. >  > Thanks in advance. > 
 > Regards, > Tom  >  >  >  >    ------------------------------  # Date: Sun, 16 Apr 2000 19:31:48 GMT = From: system@SendSpamHere.ORG (Brian Schenkenberger, VAXman-)   Subject: DN-V L1 routing licence0 Message-ID: <009E8B41.57BD42EF@SendSpamHere.ORG>  I I am attempting to configure an Alpha with two NIC cards -- one 10bT and  H another is 100bT.  I have two circuits CSMACD-0 and CSMACD-1 and I have K run the NET$CONFIGURE procedure to configure the Alpha to use L1 routing.     J I suspect that I need a certain license for this to take effect as NET$ACPG crashes the system with an INVEXCEPTN bughckeck.  Phace IV required the J DVNETRTG license.  The Alpha has a NAS-250.  That do I need for L1 routing
 with Phase V?  --N VAXman- OpenVMS APE certification number: AAA-0001           VAXman@TMESIS.COM  L GNU Freeware -- What does the GNU *really* stand for?  Garbage!  Not Usable!   ------------------------------  % Date: Sun, 16 Apr 2000 16:15:35 -0400 2 From: "Richard B. Gilbert" <DRAGON@compuserve.com>  Subject: DN-V L1 routing licence7 Message-ID: <200004161615_MC2-A16D-6E5A@compuserve.com>   8 Message text written by INTERNET:system@SendSpamHere.ORGJ >I am attempting to configure an Alpha with two NIC cards -- one 10bT and=  =  I another is 100bT.  I have two circuits CSMACD-0 and CSMACD-1 and I have =   J run the NET$CONFIGURE procedure to configure the Alpha to use L1 routing.=   =     J I suspect that I need a certain license for this to take effect as NET$AC= P G crashes the system with an INVEXCEPTN bughckeck.  Phace IV required the J DVNETRTG license.  The Alpha has a NAS-250.  That do I need for L1 routin= g 
 with Phase V?  --<   F         Have you considered using software that works?  You may need aG license of some sort but it doesn't look as if you have gotten that far  yet.   ------------------------------  # Date: Sun, 16 Apr 2000 22:05:17 GMT = From: system@SendSpamHere.ORG (Brian Schenkenberger, VAXman-) $ Subject: Re: DN-V L1 routing licence0 Message-ID: <009E8B56.C8B55885@SendSpamHere.ORG>  l In article <200004161615_MC2-A16D-6E5A@compuserve.com>, "Richard B. Gilbert" <DRAGON@compuserve.com> writes:9 >Message text written by INTERNET:system@SendSpamHere.ORG K >>I am attempting to configure an Alpha with two NIC cards -- one 10bT and=  > =  > J >another is 100bT.  I have two circuits CSMACD-0 and CSMACD-1 and I have = > K >run the NET$CONFIGURE procedure to configure the Alpha to use L1 routing.=  >  = >  > K >I suspect that I need a certain license for this to take effect as NET$AC=  >PH >crashes the system with an INVEXCEPTN bughckeck.  Phace IV required theK >DVNETRTG license.  The Alpha has a NAS-250.  That do I need for L1 routin=  >g >with Phase V? >--< > G >        Have you considered using software that works?  You may need a H >license of some sort but it doesn't look as if you have gotten that far >yet.   * ???  You know of some known bug in this?     --N VAXman- OpenVMS APE certification number: AAA-0001           VAXman@TMESIS.COM  L GNU Freeware -- What does the GNU *really* stand for?  Garbage!  Not Usable!   ------------------------------  % Date: Sun, 16 Apr 2000 22:30:51 -0400 2 From: "Richard B. Gilbert" <DRAGON@compuserve.com>$ Subject: Re: DN-V L1 routing licence7 Message-ID: <200004162231_MC2-A16C-1D20@compuserve.com>   8 Message text written by INTERNET:system@SendSpamHere.ORGH >>        Have you considered using software that works?  You may need aH >license of some sort but it doesn't look as if you have gotten that far >yet.   + ???  You know of some known bug in this?  =    <   J         Since you mentioned neither the Version of VMS nor the Version of=  D DECnet/phase 5/OSI/Plus, no I don't know of the specific bug you are
 encountering!   E         I do know that the history of this product is punctuated with J crashed systems and stained with the tears of those who must support it! =  E My experience with the product is limited to the few times that I was J forced to work with it but I do recall an interesting couple of days a fe= w A years ago when one our production clusters, a cluster accessed by J customers, was up and down like a yoyo because of DECnet/OSI driver bugs.=  =  = We had no choice but to run it because we needed PSI support.   J         A bugcheck is not an acceptable response to any kind of licensing=  B problem or to having two Ethernet adapters configured or . . . . =   ------------------------------  # Date: Sun, 16 Apr 2000 18:00:22 GMT 8 From: Veli =?iso-8859-1?Q?K=F6rkk=F6?= <korkko@decus.fi>* Subject: Re: Dropping DECnet..don't do it!( Message-ID: <38F9FC92.87EA2773@decus.fi>  H Well, we are using OSU server at JUHANI.DECUS.FI as well as DECnet/Plus.C I  am not the person running OSU stuff but as far as I can see, it  C works just fine on our system. Since there isn't any other Phase IV D systems connected to that LAN, I cannot easily verify VAX Notes V1.xC client to this server (OpenVMS V7.2-1, DECnet/Plus, DEC Notes V2.5)  etc.   _veli    Terry Kennedy wrote: > ' > Veli K?rkk? <korkko@decus.fi> writes: F > > DECnotes V2.5 works reasonably well and is very straightforward to > > install J > > on top of DECnet be it Phase IV or Phase V. Whilst there certainly was= > > strange problem on your system, I simply refuse to accept  > J >   Remember, the other end of this was a VAX running VMS V5.5-2 with V1.x > Notes. > L > > Troubleshooting DECnet/Plus has been and still is fairly straightforward > > and logical. > G >   That may be, but given that neither Engineering nor various skilled J > Symposium attendees could figure it out, and that unpaid volunteers have1 > to support the system, we'll be using Phase IV.  > F >   Oh, and there were other problems - the OSU web server had variousH > problems, and apparently (I didn't participate in the discussions) theC > server's author said that Phase V was problematic for the server.  > 6 >         Terry Kennedy             http://www.tmk.com7 >         terry@tmk.com             Jersey City, NJ USA    ------------------------------  # Date: Sun, 16 Apr 2000 18:00:24 GMT 8 From: Veli =?iso-8859-1?Q?K=F6rkk=F6?= <korkko@decus.fi>* Subject: Re: Dropping DECnet..don't do it!( Message-ID: <38F9FD79.B58B79EF@decus.fi>  D If the DECnet Phase IV system is endnode, i.e. executor routing type4 is NONROUTING, it will use lowest cost circuit only.  ? If it is of type ROUTING IV or AREA, it would use all circuits. = But routing on DECnet Phase IV is only supported on VAXes. On ? Alphas it is meant only to the extent of cluster alias support.   B So, I'd guess that mentioned system with two FDDI and two ethernetD using all interfaces just fine is a VAX and is configured as LEVEL 1 or LEVEL 2 router.   _veli    Ed Wilts wrote:  > ; > "Ken Fairfield; SLAC: 650-926-2924; FAX: 926-3515" wrote:  > > W > > In article <38F67D13.6E280361@mediaone.net>, Ed Wilts <ewilts@mediaone.net> writes: ? > > > "Ken Fairfield; SLAC: 650-926-2924; FAX: 926-3515" wrote:  > > >>O > > >>         BTW, I made a _large_ effort  testing with Decnet-Plus and LANCP O > > >>     on  a DS10 (at VMS 7.2-1) prior to upgrading the rest of my  cluster O > > >>     from VMS 7.1-1H2 to 7.2-1 last December.  I had two primary  reasons O > > >>     for  doing  so.   First,  so  that I could run DECNET over two of my O > > >>     AS4100s' four network interfaces instead  of the single interface at 0 > > >>     a  time as restricted under Phase IV. > > > N > > > This is a myth.  I spent some time with Tony in the CSC listening to himL > > > tell me that DECnet would only select the first functioning interface,D > > > only to have me prove him wrong and clearly demonstrate a node5 > > > simultaneously using DECnet on FOUR interfaces.  > > L > >         I'd like you to explain to  me  how  you did that.  Our AS4100'sL > >     have  4 network devices each, two of which are configured for DECNETL > >     (Phase IV).  So in NCP, I have four LINEs defined (so I  can  gatherL > >     network  statistics on all four interfaces) and two CIRCUITs defined > >     and enabled. > I > I've got 4 lines and 4 circuits for my interfaces (2 Ethernet, 2 FDDI). A > I have verified that the 2 Ethernet segments are definitely not J > bridged.  A host on Ethernet 1 can definitely communicate with a host on* > Ethernet 2 via my Phase IV Routing node. >  > $ show network/old > H > will give you information about routing similar to what we used to getG > before somebody decided to trim all the useful information out of the I > display.  Most of my hosts have dual FDDI connections, but not all.  My G > router will talk to hosts that have FDDI using FDDI, and will talk on C > Ethernet 1 when it has to, or Ethernet 2 if it has to.  I haven't J > verified if it will actually use both FDDI paths to a single host.  FDDIF > here is really used a cluster interconnect, not a network transport. >  > > L > >         Do your Alphas show non-zero packets  sent and received on _all_L > >     (or  even  just more than one) DECNET circuits you've  configured???4 > >     If so, I'd sure like to know how you did it! > % > I'll send you the proof via e-mail.  >  >         .../Ed > --
 > Ed Wilts > Mounds View, MN, USA > mailto:ewilts@mediaone.net   ------------------------------  # Date: Sun, 16 Apr 2000 18:00:26 GMT 8 From: Veli =?iso-8859-1?Q?K=F6rkk=F6?= <korkko@decus.fi>* Subject: Re: Dropping DECnet..don't do it!( Message-ID: <38F9FEF7.3008909A@decus.fi>  G I sure remember one cluster I upgraded from VMS V5.5-2/DECnet Phase IV+ B Extensions Wave 1 to OpenVMS V6.1/DECnet OSI V5.7. It was not nice experience.   @ I had to back off and retried the exercise with later version of
 DECnet/OSIH half a year later. Still the problems. Though this time we fought trough it. F Took a week and maybe 20 crashes on a three node VAXcluster but we did it.   ; And in that case most of the problems were in P.S.I. stuff.   D Since those bad days, DECnet/Plus has been fairly nice to use. There have problems but still.   H In one particular case, upgrading to DECnet/OSi even fixed nasty problemG that had prohibited us upgrading customer Alpha from one CPU EV4/190Mhz F either to two cpu EV4/190 or EV5/250 models. The problem was in DECnet Phase F IV and finally we decided to try DECnet V. I think DECnet Phase IV got the patch maybe year later.    _veli    Ed Wilts wrote:  >  > Terry Kennedy wrote: > > ) > > Veli K?rkk? <korkko@decus.fi> writes:  > N > > > Troubleshooting DECnet/Plus has been and still is fairly straightforward > > > and logical. > J > Yup, watch your system crash, have Engineering analyze the dump, installF > a patch, go to beginning.  Straightforward and logical.  I must have2 > helped debug a couple of dozen patches that way. > J > DEC once told me that the product was maturing and becoming stable.  NotG > longer after that, I looked at a recent Phase V patch kit and saw how H > many system crashes it fixed - must have been 25-30 or so.  That's not- > mature - that's unstable and alpha quality.  >  > --
 > Ed Wilts > Mounds View, MN, USA > mailto:ewilts@mediaone.net   ------------------------------  # Date: Mon, 17 Apr 2000 00:53:05 GMT $ From: Ed Wilts <ewilts@mediaone.net>* Subject: Re: Dropping DECnet..don't do it!, Message-ID: <38FA6070.8CE7B731@mediaone.net>   Veli Krkk wrote: > F > If the DECnet Phase IV system is endnode, i.e. executor routing type6 > is NONROUTING, it will use lowest cost circuit only. > A > If it is of type ROUTING IV or AREA, it would use all circuits. ? > But routing on DECnet Phase IV is only supported on VAXes. On A > Alphas it is meant only to the extent of cluster alias support.  > D > So, I'd guess that mentioned system with two FDDI and two ethernetF > using all interfaces just fine is a VAX and is configured as LEVEL 1 > or LEVEL 2 router.  F Wrong guess.  That's why I stated it was an AS4100 - Alphaserver 4100,A running OpenVMS Alpha V7.1-2.  It's a true ROUTING Phase IV node!    	.../Ed    > _veli  >  > Ed Wilts wrote:  > > = > > "Ken Fairfield; SLAC: 650-926-2924; FAX: 926-3515" wrote:  > > > Y > > > In article <38F67D13.6E280361@mediaone.net>, Ed Wilts <ewilts@mediaone.net> writes: A > > > > "Ken Fairfield; SLAC: 650-926-2924; FAX: 926-3515" wrote:  > > > >>Q > > > >>         BTW, I made a _large_ effort  testing with Decnet-Plus and LANCP Q > > > >>     on  a DS10 (at VMS 7.2-1) prior to upgrading the rest of my  cluster Q > > > >>     from VMS 7.1-1H2 to 7.2-1 last December.  I had two primary  reasons Q > > > >>     for  doing  so.   First,  so  that I could run DECNET over two of my Q > > > >>     AS4100s' four network interfaces instead  of the single interface at 2 > > > >>     a  time as restricted under Phase IV. > > > > P > > > > This is a myth.  I spent some time with Tony in the CSC listening to himN > > > > tell me that DECnet would only select the first functioning interface,F > > > > only to have me prove him wrong and clearly demonstrate a node7 > > > > simultaneously using DECnet on FOUR interfaces.  > > > N > > >         I'd like you to explain to  me  how  you did that.  Our AS4100'sN > > >     have  4 network devices each, two of which are configured for DECNETN > > >     (Phase IV).  So in NCP, I have four LINEs defined (so I  can  gatherN > > >     network  statistics on all four interfaces) and two CIRCUITs defined > > >     and enabled. > > K > > I've got 4 lines and 4 circuits for my interfaces (2 Ethernet, 2 FDDI). C > > I have verified that the 2 Ethernet segments are definitely not L > > bridged.  A host on Ethernet 1 can definitely communicate with a host on, > > Ethernet 2 via my Phase IV Routing node. > >e > > $ show network/old > >eJ > > will give you information about routing similar to what we used to getI > > before somebody decided to trim all the useful information out of thepK > > display.  Most of my hosts have dual FDDI connections, but not all.  My I > > router will talk to hosts that have FDDI using FDDI, and will talk on?E > > Ethernet 1 when it has to, or Ethernet 2 if it has to.  I haven'tmL > > verified if it will actually use both FDDI paths to a single host.  FDDIH > > here is really used a cluster interconnect, not a network transport. > >f > > >VN > > >         Do your Alphas show non-zero packets  sent and received on _all_N > > >     (or  even  just more than one) DECNET circuits you've  configured???6 > > >     If so, I'd sure like to know how you did it! > >0' > > I'll send you the proof via e-mail.r > >o > >         .../Ed   -- b Ed Wilts Mounds View, MN, USA mailto:ewilts@mediaone.net   ------------------------------   Date: 16 Apr 2000 19:09:30 GMT2 From: mathog@seqaxp.bio.caltech.edu (David Mathog)( Subject: Re: faster/smarter FTP clients?, Message-ID: <8dd35a$spu@gap.cco.caltech.edu>  Z In article <thuifsk6srembcblsg12ddjpecum4rmq19@4ax.com>, LBohan@spam_less..dbc.com writes:> >I was curious if the version of MGFTP you were testing with,   >was  << v2.6 ?  (circa Nov '99)
 >         3 >   2.1    New Features and Bug fixes in MGFTP V2.6  >R7 >          o  Increased the throughput performance whenn> >             transferring files from the network to the local> >             disk. Previous versions of the server and client9 >             wrote binary files out one block at a time,tA >             resulting in a severe performance penalty. In V2.6, @ >             the data is written in 127-block chunks per write.@ >             This change has resulted in transfers from the netA >             to the local disk that are 2 to 6 times faster thant  >             previous versions. >    Thanks for pointing this out!n  M Yes, it was an older version, V2.2-2.  I just downloaded and installed V2.6-1n and it was much, much better:   < <226 Transfer finished successfully. Data connection closed.R %FTP-I-DATA_RATE, 3526656 bytes (6888 blocks) in 00:00:04.11 = 858067 cps, IO=3263  = So the revised table, now including this version of MGFTP is:x  / client                    get to        secondsa, LINUX (Intel)             /dev/null     4.33  , WNT   (intel)             C:/TEMP       3.25  - VMS(DS10, Multinet FTP)   nla0:        57.627a-    (version 4.2A-X)       []file.dat   57.646c, VMS(DS10, MGFTP)          nla0:         3.33,    (version V2.2-2)       []file.dat   18.03, VMS(DS10, MGFTP)          nla0:         3.40,    (version V2.6-1)       []file.dat    4.119 VMS(DS10, Netscape 3.03)  nla0:         3.5   (stopwatch) 9                           []file.dat   12.3   (stopwatch)D  I The take home lessons are that all MGFTP users should upgrade if they arecF still using older versions, and that the Multinet FTP client compares ' very unfavorably with the MGFTP client.F   Regards,   David Mathog mathog@seqaxp.bio.caltech.edu ? Manager, sequence analysis facility, biology division, Caltech c   ------------------------------  # Date: Mon, 17 Apr 2000 02:26:20 GMTr( From: Jay Olson <jjo@triton.com.no.spam> Subject: FS: AlphaBook2 Message-ID: <38FA753D.45BD6979@triton.com.no.spam>  E After several years of devoted service, I am now selling my AlphaBook E (and will tote around a DS10L instead). As many of you know, this wasaE the only Alpha laptop ever made (and it is no longer made). This is a3< full-blown, maxed-out, almost every option included version.  H It has a 233 Mhz Alpha (21066 I think), 128 Mb of memory, 3Com 10BT/10B2F PCMCIA ethernet adapter, two 1.2 Gb removable hard disks (only one canH be used at a time), a port replicator, and a nice leather carrying case.  C When it was first sold, it ran only VMS, but support has since been1A added for OSF1/Digital Unix/Tru64 if you like that sort of thing.A  F If you want/need VMS on the go, this is the only way to go (unless youH want to tote around a Multia or DS10L), and you will recognize the value? of such a system. Otherwise, you will probably think this is anA; overpriced, underpowered thing that can't even run Windows.P  E The only caveats about this system are that it runs hot (so you can't A leave it running 7x24) and the batteries don't hold a charge (oldhA technology, but you wouldn't want to run it on batteries anyway).e  E To make an offer, or for more info, e-mail jjo "at" triton "dot" com.h   ------------------------------  % Date: Sun, 16 Apr 2000 17:11:53 -04000' From: "Bill Todd" <billtodd@foo.mv.com>aU Subject: Re: How can you find the exact size of a file in bytes using a  VMS command?e( Message-ID: <8dda5v$ahs$1@pyrite.mv.net>  5 David A Froble <davef@tsoft-inc.com> wrote in messagec' news:38F963CA.69980258@tsoft-inc.com...n   ...a     Fixed lengthI > > records have no metadata and the number of bytes per record times the 1 > > number of records yields the length in bytes.  >hJ > It's been a long time, but I thought that all RMS record types, with theL > exception of block I/O had some additional data as part of the record, but notbI > visable to the user.  This included relative fixed records.  As I said,5 it's' > been a long time, and I may be wrong.h  G Close, but not exact.  The various stream formats can (I think) includeYH delimiters in the record buffer or not, depending on how the records areD accessed; if the delimiters aren't included in the buffer, I think IH remember that they're returned in the STV status value or something likeD that, so in either case they're not exactly 'invisible'.  Records inC Relative files always have at least one invisible control byte (for1H deleted-record control).  But fixed-length records in *Sequential* filesL have no invisible overhead - unless (IIRC) they're odd-length, in which caseA each is padded to an even boundary for compatibility with earliere
 environments.    - bill   ------------------------------  % Date: Sun, 16 Apr 2000 19:55:05 -0400 0 From: JF Mezei <jfmezei.spamnot@vl.videotron.ca>S Subject: Re: How can you find the exact size of a file in bytes using a VMScommand?i/ Message-ID: <38FA52D1.CC4C5B03@vl.videotron.ca>t   Rick wrote: D > transfered to a VMS box correctly using FTP. It was an Oracle dumpF > file, and the individual transfered the file using ASCII mode. Well,H > that did a bit of translation on it's own, which would modify the fileH > (such as converting CRNL to NL), but not so much as to change the size$ > of the file by a number of blocks.  J Yes, it could. If you have more than 512 lines in the file, then you'll beL "saving" one block by removing the CR from the CRLF, (as well as potentiallyA any control information for each record depending on record type.   H Also, depending on the type of file and the way Oracle sets it up. it isI possible that the file contains lots of unused space at the end, and thatiK won't get transfered. On VMS, size allocated does not necessarily equate to-
 size used.  J Generally, do a DIR/FULL on the source file to determine its size and moreM importantly, its structure. That will give you clues on what sort of transfer.R will be needed and what sort of file modifications will occur during the transfer.  I I am not entirely familiar with FTP's ASCII mode, but I beleive that eachtN "line" is converted into a "vanilla" line, sent to the other system which then0 converts it back to its native text file format.   ------------------------------  # Date: Sun, 16 Apr 2000 17:32:36 GMTe= From: system@SendSpamHere.ORG (Brian Schenkenberger, VAXman-)rI Subject: Re: Safe Shipping (was Re: Warning: circuitsurgeon is a ripoff!) 0 Message-ID: <009E8B30.B0F87E0E@SendSpamHere.ORG>  m In article <Pine.LNX.4.10.10004161203360.30413-100000@tuatha.sidhe.org>, Dan Sugalski <dan@sidhe.org> writes:r% >On Sun, 16 Apr 2000, Beyonder wrote: C >> > However, just because it arrived in a defective state does not % >> > mean it was defective when sent.e >> dD >> ah but in this case it does. if you knew anything about shipping,4 >> packing, and "drop tests" you might realize this. > E >Ummm, no. I worked for UPS for two years in one of the hubs, loading K >trucks. There is *no* way to package something with moving parts that willrD >ship UPS (or any of the other major carriers) that can't be broken.K >Period. Drives can easily be broken in a half-dozen different ways without F >sign of external damage and if the box was scuffed or showed signs ofH >wear? Forget it. *Especially* if the drive was mounted in a system. UPSC >can also destroy and damage the info on magnetic media without any, >indication of trouble.   $ So you're the responsible party!  :)  F Actually, to relay a story, my laser printer arrived UPS and I startedE to remove all of the packing fillers to insert the toner carts, fuseroF oil bottle and waste toner bottle.  The waste toner was designed to beE inserted on a spring weighing mechanism so that when full it would beiD able to signal a need for servicing.  I noted that the mechanism wasG broken.  I called digital for service and when the service guy arrived,oF he noticed that the entire frame of the printer was twisted.  From theE outside, it wasn't at all noticable.  The only apparent damage on theLH box was a slightly deformed corner on the bottom of the shipping carton.F Certainly, the impact -- with a near 100 lbs. printer inside -- which F caused the damage to the corner of the cardboard was more than enough  to twist the entire frame.  F Thank goodness for shipping insurance!  For the pennies on the dollar > to insure an item of value being shipped, it is well worth it.   --N VAXman- OpenVMS APE certification number: AAA-0001           VAXman@TMESIS.COM  L GNU Freeware -- What does the GNU *really* stand for?  Garbage!  Not Usable!   ------------------------------  % Date: Mon, 17 Apr 2000 11:32:17 +1200 6 From: "Antony Wardle" <antony.wardle@nospam.met.co.nz>& Subject: TCP/IP 5.0a stops the cluster0 Message-ID: <a3sK4.6770$5D.14270@ozemail.com.au>   Hi.m  ; I upgraded my axp cluser to 5.0a from 4.2 eco 2 on vms 7.1.t> Since then I have had the cluster freeze about every 12 hours.  I I forced a crash and got cmq to have a look. They came back witth a patchtI for nfs. I put that on and rebooted it. Since then I have had the clustert stopping every
 5 or 6 hours.t  I This morning I put the old version back on (well I just booted of anothern systemK disk that was my pre upgrade version), and so far everything is going fine.c  L I have had 5.0a on my development machine, but I didn't go straight to 5.0a. I stopped atK 5.0, and upgraded to 5.0a after a fault developed with linux hogging 33% ofE theeL cpu when it telnet-ed in.  Anyone know if there a site where you can go, and findK out these things BEFORE you upgrade? I thought that verion 5.0 was supposedt to be pretty good?   Any suggestions?  & CMQ fault number is 43272 (I am in NZ)   Antony   ------------------------------  # Date: Mon, 17 Apr 2000 03:39:59 GMTi! From: Beyonder <beyonder@vrx.net>i1 Subject: Re: Warning: circuitsurgeon is a ripoff!u' Message-ID: <38FA8821.39FF13A3@vrx.net>   H Yes I have, and some already have. and eight others emailed me or posted
 publically@ with the same problem with circuitsurgeon, ie: being ripped off.A but you are correct, time to move on to bigger and better things.e  8 Like getting this darned RRD42-DA connected to my alpha.M yeah, it's just a cable I need, but when you don't have the right one, it's ac pain.n   Dan.   hobbsb@my-deja.com wrote:t  O > Dan, you've given your warning.  If folk decide not to heed it, that is theirwK > decision - you will waste a lot of time and energy trying to change their.J > minds.  Besides, when they see CircuitSurgeon, they'll probably stop and8 > think of you.  Please stop increasing the noise level. >1( > Sent via Deja.com http://www.deja.com/ > Before you buy.d   ------------------------------  # Date: Sun, 16 Apr 2000 23:10:02 GMTF- From: "Dave Pampreen" <davepampreen@home.com>s Subject: Web server for VAX/VMSC; Message-ID: <eLrK4.30459$h01.254837@news1.rdc1.mi.home.com>V   Hi everyone!  K I have a VAX 7820 and a MicroVAX 3190.  I would like to put a web server ons@ them.  Most of the reading I have done says ALPHA ALPHA ALPHA...  K Does anyone know of one for VAX?    I don't quite have the luxury to get ano, alpha just yet, but give me a bit of time :)  
 Dave Pampreenp GKN Automotive, Inc.   ------------------------------  % Date: Sun, 16 Apr 2000 19:59:49 -0400T0 From: JF Mezei <jfmezei.spamnot@vl.videotron.ca># Subject: Re: Web server for VAX/VMSn/ Message-ID: <38FA53ED.42D1E951@vl.videotron.ca>a   Dave Pampreen wrote:M > I have a VAX 7820 and a MicroVAX 3190.  I would like to put a web server onwB > them.  Most of the reading I have done says ALPHA ALPHA ALPHA...  7 OSU is a fine server, and it compiles on VAX and ALPHA.v  9 http://www.er6.eng.ohio-state.edu/WWW/doc/serverinfo.html    ------------------------------  % Date: Mon, 17 Apr 2000 12:36:23 +0930P/ From: Mark Daniel <mark.daniel@wasd.vsm.com.au> # Subject: Re: Web server for VAX/VMSy/ Message-ID: <38FA7FAF.C7AC0D3B@wasd.vsm.com.au>m  M > Does anyone know of one for VAX?    I don't quite have the luxury to get ane. > alpha just yet, but give me a bit of time :)  $       demo:  http://wasd.vsm.com.au/)   download:  http://wasd.vsm.com.au/wasd/t  E +-------------------------------------------------------------------+ D  Mark Daniel            Opinions my own ... and on loan from others.E  mailto:Mark.Daniel@wasd.vsm.com.au (Mark.Daniel@dsto.defence.gov.au)lE +-------------------------------------------------------------------+-   ------------------------------  % Date: Mon, 17 Apr 2000 06:12:35 +0200<( From: "Bruin, J.M. de" <Bruin@WT.TNO.NL># Subject: RE: Web server for VAX/VMS3C Message-ID: <675EFE352B70D311ABE20008C7F37BC20E2B25@wt15.wt.tno.nl>C   Try www.xitami.com  
 Mark de Bruine TNO Automotive     > -----Original Message-----2 > From:	Dave Pampreen [SMTP:davepampreen@home.com]$ > Sent:	Monday, April 17, 2000 01:10 > To:	Info-VAX@Mvb.Saic.Come! > Subject:	Web server for VAX/VMSe >  > Hi everyone! > J > I have a VAX 7820 and a MicroVAX 3190.  I would like to put a web server > onB > them.  Most of the reading I have done says ALPHA ALPHA ALPHA... > J > Does anyone know of one for VAX?    I don't quite have the luxury to get > an. > alpha just yet, but give me a bit of time :) >  > Dave Pampreenn > GKN Automotive, Inc. >    ------------------------------  % Date: Mon, 17 Apr 2000 00:02:14 -0400 # From: sol gongola <sol@adldata.com>2# Subject: Re: Web server for VAX/VMS & Message-ID: <38FA8CC6.200@adldata.com>  5 The WASD saeb server has both VAX and ALPHA versions.    sol gongolae   >  > Hi everyone! > M > I have a VAX 7820 and a MicroVAX 3190.  I would like to put a web server ontB > them.  Most of the reading I have done says ALPHA ALPHA ALPHA... > M > Does anyone know of one for VAX?    I don't quite have the luxury to get ano. > alpha just yet, but give me a bit of time :) >  > Dave Pampreen  > GKN Automotive, Inc.   ------------------------------   End of INFO-VAX 2000.214 ************************stead  of the single interface at 2 > > > >>     a  time as restricted under Phase IV. > > > > P > > > > This is a myth.  I spent some time with Tony in the CSC listening to himN > > > > tell me that DECnet would only select the first functioning interface,F > > > > only to have me prove him wrong and clearly demonstrate a node                                                                                                                                                                                               ߫4   JaY`t`J'a a      `J[tޭ`J[t`J



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