1 INFO-VAX	Wed, 02 Aug 2000	Volume 2000 : Issue 429       Contents:' Re: A Fine Mess with the logical tables  Re: All print queues stopping  Alphaserver 800 5/500 For Sale( Re: Announcement: PDF Viewer for OpenVMS Authenticating Users Re: Authenticating Users Re: Authenticating Users Re: Authenticating Users Re: Authenticating Users Re: Authenticating Users Can't map to drive with SAMBA O Re: Creating an "Out" Queue Under OpenVMS ver. 7.1 to Print to Linux LPD Queue? N Re: Creating an "Out" Queue Under OpenVMS ver. 7.1 to Print to Linux LPDQueue?N Re: Creating an "Out" Queue Under OpenVMS ver. 7.1 to Print to Linux LPDQueue? Creating self extracting files" Re: Creating self extracting files" RE: Creating self extracting files" Re: Creating self extracting files
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 TEST4 CVWD$ Trouble with the Intel Ethernet ship Re: Tuning FTP Performance?  UCX 4.1 to 4.2 upgrade query  Re: UCX 4.1 to 4.2 upgrade query  Re: UCX 4.1 to 4.2 upgrade query  Re: UCX 4.1 to 4.2 upgrade query( Upgrade from UCX 4.2 to UCX (TCPIP) 5.0A  Upgrade Questions - 7.1 to 7.2-1 Versions of DSN - which is best # Re: Versions of DSN - which is best # Re: Versions of DSN - which is best # Re: Versions of DSN - which is best & xpdf on compressed/encrypted documents* Re: xpdf on compressed/encrypted documents* Re: xpdf on compressed/encrypted documents  F ----------------------------------------------------------------------  # Date: Wed, 02 Aug 2000 13:40:31 GMT  From: Berty <guyab@my-deja.com> 0 Subject: Re: A Fine Mess with the logical tables) Message-ID: <8m98ce$oka$1@nnrp1.deja.com>   4 In article <C225692E.006EA218.00@jklh21.valmet.com>,#   norm.raphael@jamesbury.com wrote:  >  > - > Looks like $DEASSIGN/SYSTEM/EXEC $4$DIA30::  > 1 > operagost@my-deja.com on 08/01/2000 02:54:25 PM  >  > To:   Info-VAX@mvb.saic.com  > cc: 3 > Subject:  Re: A Fine Mess with the logical tables  > 1 > In article <sobnsa1u9ft155@corp.supernews.com>, 2 >   "Peter Weaver" <peter.weaver@stelco.ca> wrote:( > > operagost@email.com wrote in message  <8m4ktr$cnp$1@nnrp1.deja.com>...3 > > >In article <sobiql399ft21@corp.supernews.com>, 5 > > >  "Peter Weaver" <peter.weaver@stelco.ca> wrote: + > > >> operagost@email.com wrote in message $ > > <8m4gjk$917$1@nnrp1.deja.com>... > > >> >... # > > >> >  "$4$DIA30:" = "$4$DIA30:" " > > >> >  "$4$dia30" = "$4$dia30:" > > >> >@ > > >> >How do I fix it? When I try DEASS /SYS $4$DIA30: it says > > >> >1 > > >> >%SYSTEM-F-NOLOGNAM, no logical name match  > > >> >...  > > >>
 > > >> Try > > >>F > > >>     DEASS /SYS $4$DIA430:: ! Note the two colons, not just one. > > >>5 > > >> That should get rid of the $4$DIA430: logical.  > > > G > > >Sorry, already tried that too. Hmm, hate to reboot the system just  to > > >... > > E > > I just noticed that you had "$4$dia30" in lower case. Is that the  way ! > > it actually shows? If so then  > > B > > $ DEASS /SYS "$4$dia30" ! should get rid of the second logical: > > $ DEASS /SYS $4$DIA30:: ! Should get rid of the first. > > E > > If that doesn't work then do a SHOW LOG *DIA30*/FULL and SHOW LOG = > > "*dia30*"/FULL and post the output from the two commands.  > F > Yeah, I've tried some other people's suggestions and they don't workG > either. I definitely should have kept a copy of what I did originally  so: > I could look at it. Here's the output of those commands: > ' > LIMS    Manager>SHOW LOG *DIA30*/FULL  > " > (LNM$PROCESS_TABLE)     [kernel]5 >                         [no protection information]  > F > (LNM$JOB_8124EB70)      [kernel]  [shareable]  [Quota=(14248,15000)]F >                         [Protection=(RWED,RWED,,)]  [Owner=[SYSTEM]] > 5 > (LNM$GROUP_000001)      [kernel]  [shareable,group] A >                         [Protection=(RWED,R,R,)]  [Owner=[1,0]]  > 6 > (LNM$SYSTEM_TABLE)      [kernel]  [shareable,system]F >                         [Protection=(RWE,RWE,R,R)]  [Owner=[SYSTEM]] > $ >   "$4$DIA30:" [exec] = "$4$DIA30:" > - > (DECW$LOGICAL_NAMES)    [exec]  [shareable] H >                         [Protection=(RWED,RWED,R,R)]  [Owner=[SYSTEM]] > ' > LIMS    Manager>SHOW LOG *dia30*/FULL  > " > (LNM$PROCESS_TABLE)     [kernel]5 >                         [no protection information]  > F > (LNM$JOB_8124EB70)      [kernel]  [shareable]  [Quota=(14248,15000)]F >                         [Protection=(RWED,RWED,,)]  [Owner=[SYSTEM]] > 5 > (LNM$GROUP_000001)      [kernel]  [shareable,group] A >                         [Protection=(RWED,R,R,)]  [Owner=[1,0]]  > 6 > (LNM$SYSTEM_TABLE)      [kernel]  [shareable,system]F >                         [Protection=(RWE,RWE,R,R)]  [Owner=[SYSTEM]] > $ >   "$4$DIA30:" [exec] = "$4$DIA30:" > - > (DECW$LOGICAL_NAMES)    [exec]  [shareable] H >                         [Protection=(RWED,RWED,R,R)]  [Owner=[SYSTEM]] > ( > Sent via Deja.com http://www.deja.com/ > Before you buy.  >  >    --- Here is my example which I think should help.    Wed-02-Aug>sh log utl$lib*/ful    (LNM$PROCESS_TABLE)     [kernel]3                         [no protection information]   B (LNM$JOB_81704B00)      [kernel]  [shareable]  [Quota=(3520,4096)];                         [Protection=(RWCD,RWCD,,)]  [Owner=  [DISTSYS,DYYY999]]  3 (LNM$GROUP_000010)      [kernel]  [shareable,group] E                         [Protection=(RWCD,R,R,)]  [Owner=[DISTSYS,*]]   4 (LNM$SYSTEM_TABLE)      [kernel]  [shareable,system]D                         [Protection=(RWC,RWC,R,R)]  [Owner=[SYSTEM]]  %   "UTL$LIB" [exec] = "UTL$ROOT:[LIB]"   + (DECW$LOGICAL_NAMES)    [exec]  [shareable] F                         [Protection=(RWCD,RWCD,R,R)]  [Owner=[SYSTEM]]  ' Wed-02-Aug>deassign/system/exec utl$lib    Wed-02-Aug>sh log utl$lib*/ful    (LNM$PROCESS_TABLE)     [kernel]3                         [no protection information]   B (LNM$JOB_81704B00)      [kernel]  [shareable]  [Quota=(3520,4096)];                         [Protection=(RWCD,RWCD,,)]  [Owner=  [DISTSYS,DYYY999]]  3 (LNM$GROUP_000010)      [kernel]  [shareable,group] E                         [Protection=(RWCD,R,R,)]  [Owner=[DISTSYS,*]]   4 (LNM$SYSTEM_TABLE)      [kernel]  [shareable,system]D                         [Protection=(RWC,RWC,R,R)]  [Owner=[SYSTEM]]  + (DECW$LOGICAL_NAMES)    [exec]  [shareable] F                         [Protection=(RWCD,RWCD,R,R)]  [Owner=[SYSTEM]]9 %SHOW-S-NOTRAN, no translation for logical name *UTL$LIB*   2 -------------------------------------------------- GuyB2 Note. This post only contains my personal opinion.    & Sent via Deja.com http://www.deja.com/ Before you buy.    ------------------------------  % Date: Wed, 02 Aug 2000 11:20:24 +0100 - From: Tim Llewellyn <tim.llewellyn@bbc.co.uk> & Subject: Re: All print queues stopping) Message-ID: <3987F5E8.E7E79E6C@bbc.co.uk>    Terry Marosites wrote:   > Hello all, > N > I am having an intermittent problem. all my print queues stop , all my printK > queues are IP print queues. watching opcom I saw this message reappearing M > once or twice a minute. Could someone translate this to English for the ucx 	 > novice.  > TIA  > Terry    Terry,  P Do your users turn their printers off at night? Thats whay I get that message on my systems. I Are you sure the queues are stopped rather than paused or stalled? If the  latter, they should 8 restart once the printer is turned on again or whatever.   >  > $ > Message from user SYSTEM on alpha1N > UCX$TELNETSYM - (JOBZ) open_socket_ast invoked with bad IOSB 660: connect to > net  > work object rejected    -- 6 Tim Llewellyn, OpenVMS Infrastructure, Remarcs Project0 MedAS at the BBC, Whiteladies Road, Bristol, UK.A Email tim.llewellyn@bbc.co.uk. Home tim.llewellyn@cableinet.co.uk   A I speak for myself only and my views in no way represent those of  MedAS or the BBC.    ------------------------------  $ Date: Wed, 2 Aug 2000 08:31:04 -0400% From: "Islandco" <sales@islandco.com> ' Subject: Alphaserver 800 5/500 For Sale . Message-ID: <sog4gk67dbm54@corp.supernews.com>   Hi everyone   ! We just received in the following     * DEC Alphaserver 800 5/500 120/240V 50/60hz 256mb memory (4 x 64) 
 1.44Mb floppy  SN-PBXGK-BB Elsa Gloria Synergy  RRD47-AB 32x SCSI CD-ROM DE500-BA 10/100 Ethernet8 KZPAC-AA Raid Controller Ultra SCSI Wide with 16mb cache On board Ultra Wide SCSI( 1 x 4Gb Ultra Wide7200rpm  Hot Swap Disk( 3 x 9Gb Ultra Wide 7200rpm Hot Swap Disk   With VMS License $5500 Without VMS License $4000   6 List price on the barebones system alone is over $7000L This system was purchased without a VMS license so we are offering it with a. BRAND New license shipped directly from CompaqK We can also do the same configuration with the White Box version for either + Hobbyists or Linux Users - call for pricing   3 Call us on 912 447 6622 or Email sales@islandco.com        -- Island Computers US Corporation  2700 Gregory Street 	 Suite 150  Savannah GA 31404  Tel: 912 447 6622  Fax: 912 201 0096  sales@islandco.com www.islandco.com  C This message and any files transmitted with it are confidential and J may be privileged and/or subject to the provisions of privacy legislation.H They are intended solely for the use of the individual or entity to whom theyK are addressed. If the reader of this message is not the intended recipient, G please notify Island Computers US Corp immediately and then delete this  message.I You are notified that reliance on, disclosure of, distribution or copying  of this message is prohibited.   ------------------------------  $ Date: Wed, 2 Aug 2000 13:38:56 -0400% From: "Brian Tillman" <tillman_brian> 1 Subject: Re: Announcement: PDF Viewer for OpenVMS $ Message-ID: <39885c6b$1@news.si.com>  I >Applied Synergy, Inc. is pleased to announce the ASI PDF Viewer V1.0 for 	 >OpenVMS!  ...  >Java is NOT required.  3 If this latter is true, why is an Alpha required???  --  A Brian Tillman                   Internet: tillman_brian at si.com A Smiths Industries, Inc.                   tillman at swdev.si.com = 3290 Patterson Ave. SE, MS      Addresses modified to prevent < Grand Rapids, MI 49512-1991     SPAM.  Replace "at" with "@"8        This opinion doesn't represent that of my company   ------------------------------   Date: 2 Aug 2000 11:43:49 GMT 1 From: bill@triangle.cs.uofs.edu (Bill Gunshannon)  Subject: Authenticating Users , Message-ID: <8m91hl$1me9$1@info.cs.uofs.edu>  K Is it possible to set up VMS to use RADIUS to authenticate users at login??    bill   --  J Bill Gunshannon          |  de-moc-ra-cy (di mok' ra see) n.  Three wolvesD bill@cs.scranton.edu     |  and a sheep voting on what's for dinner. University of Scranton   |A Scranton, Pennsylvania   |         #include <std.disclaimer.h>       ------------------------------   Date: 2 Aug 2000 14:37:24 GMT 2 From: hoffman@xdelta.zko.dec.nospam (Hoff Hoffman)! Subject: Re: Authenticating Users 6 Message-ID: <8m9bn4$39g$3@mailint03.im.hou.compaq.com>  ` In article <8m91hl$1me9$1@info.cs.uofs.edu>, bill@triangle.cs.uofs.edu (Bill Gunshannon) writes:L :Is it possible to set up VMS to use RADIUS to authenticate users at login??  H   There is a Radius server around for OpenVMS, but the OpenVMS external G   authentication APIs are not yet documented -- the current target for  I   documentation and stabilization of these OpenVMS APIs is circa OpenVMS  I   V7.3-1.  The fellow that is working on Radius is (AFAIK) working to get L   (or has gained) access to the current API specifications for the external    authentication mechanisms.  G   The next protocol being added for external authentication support is  H   Kerberos (both client and server), and this is expected to be part of    the OpenVMS V7.3 release.   N  --------------------------- pure personal opinion ---------------------------L    Hoff (Stephen) Hoffman   OpenVMS Engineering   hoffman#xdelta.zko.dec.com   ------------------------------  # Date: Wed, 02 Aug 2000 15:17:04 GMT % From: Alan Greig <agreig@my-deja.com> ! Subject: Re: Authenticating Users ) Message-ID: <8m9e1b$t15$1@nnrp1.deja.com>   , In article <8m91hl$1me9$1@info.cs.uofs.edu>,   bill@cs.uofs.edu wrote: E > Is it possible to set up VMS to use RADIUS to authenticate users at  login??   ? You can run a RADIUS server under VMS http://www.radiusvms.com/ @ and then other clients can authenticate from VMS but if you want> to have a VMS password verified with an external RADIUS serverA then you are out of luck - at least in a supported configuration. ? You can set things up so that the password is verified on an NT ; domain though and that is supported but requires Pathworks.     -- 
 Alan Greig    & Sent via Deja.com http://www.deja.com/ Before you buy.    ------------------------------  " Date: Wed, 2 Aug 2000 15:36:24 GMT- From: "Richard D. Piccard" <piccard@ohio.edu> ! Subject: Re: Authenticating Users ( Message-ID: <39883FF3.99E24A87@ohio.edu>  ^ Does this mean that we will have the choice under 7.3 of having our VMS systems participate asP clients to a DCE authentication cell (which we already have under Digital Unix)?                           RDP      Hoff Hoffman wrote:   b > In article <8m91hl$1me9$1@info.cs.uofs.edu>, bill@triangle.cs.uofs.edu (Bill Gunshannon) writes:N > :Is it possible to set up VMS to use RADIUS to authenticate users at login?? > I >   There is a Radius server around for OpenVMS, but the OpenVMS external H >   authentication APIs are not yet documented -- the current target forJ >   documentation and stabilization of these OpenVMS APIs is circa OpenVMSK >   V7.3-1.  The fellow that is working on Radius is (AFAIK) working to get M >   (or has gained) access to the current API specifications for the external  >   authentication mechanisms. > H >   The next protocol being added for external authentication support isI >   Kerberos (both client and server), and this is expected to be part of  >   the OpenVMS V7.3 release.  > P >  --------------------------- pure personal opinion ---------------------------N >    Hoff (Stephen) Hoffman   OpenVMS Engineering   hoffman#xdelta.zko.dec.com   --B ==================================================================B Dick Piccard                           Academic Technology ManagerB piccard@ohio.edu                                 Computer ServicesB http://oak.cats.ohiou.edu/~piccard/                Ohio University   ------------------------------  $ Date: Wed, 2 Aug 2000 17:39:40 +0100* From: "Richard Brodie" <R.Brodie@rl.ac.uk>! Subject: Re: Authenticating Users + Message-ID: <8m9ise$i98@newton.cc.rl.ac.uk>   [ "Richard D. Piccard" <piccard@ohio.edu> wrote in message news:39883FF3.99E24A87@ohio.edu...o  ` > Does this mean that we will have the choice under 7.3 of having our VMS systems participate asR > clients to a DCE authentication cell (which we already have under Digital Unix)?  P I thought DCE authentication had worked since 7.0 or so. Am I missing something?   ------------------------------  % Date: Wed, 02 Aug 2000 10:44:56 -0700'3 From: Jojimbo <jgesslingNOjgSPAM@yahoo.com.invalid>u! Subject: Re: Authenticating Userso9 Message-ID: <0045c324.e38a0691@usw-ex0102-084.remarq.com>M  8 Hoff, not too sure what you mean about the API not being= documented.  The LGI callouts have been documented for a longa? time, and work quite well.  Is this external authentication youE: are talking about something different?  Will it effect the; current LGI stuff?  (hope not cause I'm (we) are using it).e   THanks,  Jim    ; -----------------------------------------------------------s  7 Got questions?  Get answers over the phone at Keen.com.e Up to 100 minutes free!  http://www.keen.com?   ------------------------------  + Date: Wed, 02 Aug 2000 11:59:12 -0500 (CDT)o& From: Drew Shelton <drew@sematech.org>& Subject: Can't map to drive with SAMBA- Message-ID: <01JSHSEL2246001UZR@SEMATECH.Org>V  ? I just installed Samba 2.0.3 on OpenVMS Alpha 7.2-1 and TCPware H 5.4-3.  I'm trying to map from my NT PC to my VMS directory.  I get this message on the PC:  A         The account is not authorized to login from this station..  J My username on my PC is the same as my username on VMS, and I'm also using? that name for my Samba home.  Here is some of my SMB.CONF file:F      security = user  
 [sheltond]     path = /USERS$DISK/SHELTONDp     valid users = sheltond     writeable = true  J I've tried it with and without "hosts allow" and "valid users".  I've alsoJ set my PC to use plain text passwords using the file NT4_PLAINPASSWORD.REGL that was provided with the Samba distribution.  TESTPARM complains about theK permissions on the lock directory, but I understand that's a bogus message.e5 SMBCLIENT connects just fine.  What am I doing wrong?   N Forgive me for posting this here.  I tried to subscribe to SAMBA-VMS, but I've received no acknowledgement.   Thanks,d Drew  L ============================================================================6 Drew Shelton                         drew@sematech.org9 VMS Systems Manager                  office: 512-356-7575C9 Sematech                             fax:    512-356-7600o 2706 Montopolis Drive K Austin, TX 78741-6499                I speak for myself only, not Sematech.EB     "OpenVMS is today what Microsoft wants Windows NT v8.0 to be!"I                                                         - Compaq, 9/22/98eL ============================================================================   ------------------------------   Date: 2 Aug 2000 17:21:20 GMT # From: rifepe@langran.iem.csic.espam X Subject: Re: Creating an "Out" Queue Under OpenVMS ver. 7.1 to Print to Linux LPD Queue?' Message-ID: <8m9lag$v7u$1@tejo.csic.es>s  d In article <e%Ch5.5839$Y51.33658@iad-read.news.verio.net>, "Jerry Keene" <jkeene@scseng.com> writes: >Guys: >-H >I'd like to print from an Alpha server running OpenVMS version 4.1 to a! >Linux printer defined under LPD.R >AL >I've opened an incident with Compaq technical support but have yet to get a, >successful test print to the Linux printer. >tJ >I know that the printer works properly since other remote Linux boxes can >print to it with no problems. >rK >I went through LPRSETUP as instructed by Compaq support, and while I'm notoE >very familiar with OpenVMS, the LPRSETUP instructions were clear and  >uncomplicated.a >fI >Compaq support helped me check things like the proper entry of the LinuxtH >remote system's ip address and dns name under OpenVMS Hosts and gave myG >setup a green light.   They seem as clueless now as I am as to why the 7 >OpenVMS "out" queues can't print to the Linux printer.t >aH >Error msgs with test prints are consistent and indicate an inability to	 >connect.> >$K >One thing that alarms me a bit is that Compaq Support can't really furnish>L >me with any example setups that involve Linux.  They did send me a documentF >describing printing from an OpenVMS alpha server to a Windows NT "LPR >compatible" printer.  >AB >Has any OpenVMS guru out there already "been there and done that" >successfully? >t >Thanks. >4 >AJ We did something similar and found that you need to authorize all the userJ in the linux machine. The ucx lpd simbiont send the work with the name of 0 the person that print and not with the lpd user. I hope that could help.e Ricardo    ------------------------------  % Date: Wed, 02 Aug 2000 10:15:26 +0200E= From: Arne =?iso-8859-1?Q?Vajh=F8j?= <arne.vajhoej@gtech.com>fW Subject: Re: Creating an "Out" Queue Under OpenVMS ver. 7.1 to Print to Linux LPDQueue?p) Message-ID: <3987D89D.F0BE0912@gtech.com>    Jerry Keene wrote:I > I'd like to print from an Alpha server running OpenVMS version 4.1 to ao" > Linux printer defined under LPD. > M > I've opened an incident with Compaq technical support but have yet to get aI- > successful test print to the Linux printer.M > K > I know that the printer works properly since other remote Linux boxes cann > print to it with no problems.  > L > I went through LPRSETUP as instructed by Compaq support, and while I'm notF > very familiar with OpenVMS, the LPRSETUP instructions were clear and > uncomplicated. > J > Compaq support helped me check things like the proper entry of the LinuxI > remote system's ip address and dns name under OpenVMS Hosts and gave my H > setup a green light.   They seem as clueless now as I am as to why the8 > OpenVMS "out" queues can't print to the Linux printer. > I > Error msgs with test prints are consistent and indicate an inability toT
 > connect. > L > One thing that alarms me a bit is that Compaq Support can't really furnishM > me with any example setups that involve Linux.  They did send me a document G > describing printing from an OpenVMS alpha server to a Windows NT "LPR  > compatible" printer. > C > Has any OpenVMS guru out there already "been there and done that"e > successfully?   G I have also just tried VMS LPR  -> NT LPD, which was very easy to setupE! even without a guide from Compaq.s  F Since the LPD protocol is an old very simple and well tested protocol,? then I find it very difficult to see, why it should not work upA afgainst Linux.]   Arne   ------------------------------  % Date: Wed, 02 Aug 2000 15:36:28 +0100T- From: Tim Llewellyn <tim.llewellyn@bbc.co.uk>oW Subject: Re: Creating an "Out" Queue Under OpenVMS ver. 7.1 to Print to Linux LPDQueue?e( Message-ID: <398831EC.D3369B8@bbc.co.uk>   Arne Vajhj wrote:   > Jerry Keene wrote:K > > I'd like to print from an Alpha server running OpenVMS version 4.1 to ae$ > > Linux printer defined under LPD. > >  > H > Since the LPD protocol is an old very simple and well tested protocol,A > then I find it very difficult to see, why it should not work upo > afgainst Linux.]  M Agreed, and if my other suggestions didn't help, scour the linux logs and lpd N setup for any access restrictions. Some lpd servers are configured to be picky. about which clients they accept requests from.   >  > Arne   --6 Tim Llewellyn, OpenVMS Infrastructure, Remarcs Project0 MedAS at the BBC, Whiteladies Road, Bristol, UK.A Email tim.llewellyn@bbc.co.uk. Home tim.llewellyn@cableinet.co.ukS  A I speak for myself only and my views in no way represent those ofi MedAS or the BBC.7   ------------------------------  % Date: Wed, 02 Aug 2000 10:47:49 -0500 / From: Chris Scheers <chris@applied-synergy.com>S' Subject: Creating self extracting filesrO Message-ID: <807A1E52B6FBC614.A70BC0D110C45B3A.BBEC094D8C0BECE2@lp.airnews.net>r  E Are there any utilities for creating self extracting compressed files  for OpenVMS?  E For example, is the utility Compaq uses to create the DCX executablesE
 available?   Thanx!  G -----------------------------------------------------------------------]$ Chris Scheers, Applied Synergy, Inc.  C Voice: 817-237-3360            Internet: chris@applied-synergy.com -   Fax: 817-237-3074s   ------------------------------  # Date: Wed, 02 Aug 2000 16:00:42 GMTw= From: system@SendSpamHere.ORG (Brian Schenkenberger, VAXman-) + Subject: Re: Creating self extracting filesm0 Message-ID: <009EE001.BED81089@SendSpamHere.ORG>   In article <807A1E52B6FBC614.A70BC0D110C45B3A.BBEC094D8C0BECE2@lp.airnews.net>, Chris Scheers <chris@applied-synergy.com> writes:vF >Are there any utilities for creating self extracting compressed files
 >for OpenVMS?r > F >For example, is the utility Compaq uses to create the DCX executables >available?l  E I asked here about the DCX compression stuff and never got any answereC about whether it would even be released outside of VMS engineering.t  E However, you can create self-extracting .ZIP executables.  You need atF copy of both VAX and Alpha versions of UNZIPSFX.EXE .  Create your ZIP archive and then issue:u  H $ APPEND/NEW UNZIPSFX.{AXP/VAX}_EXE,<file>.ZIP <file>_ZIP.{AXP/VAX}_EXE   C The UNZIPSFX is packaged with the ZIP/UNZIP distribution.  Look forn it on the WKU archive.   --O VAXman- OpenVMS APE certification number: AAA-0001     VAXman(at)TMESIS(dot)COMt   ------------------------------  % Date: Wed, 02 Aug 2000 12:02:23 -0400m# From: John Vottero <John@MVPSI.com> + Subject: RE: Creating self extracting filesrD Message-ID: <C15945A9D9EFCF11BA8B08002BBF1CCC0CD795@berry.mvpsi.com>  F The Info-Zip package includes a self extracting feature.  You create aE standard .ZIP archive and then create a self extracting executable by6A appending the .ZIP to the end of the UNZIPSFX executable like so:h  ) $ COPY UNZIPSFX.EXE,PDF010.ZIP PDF010.EXE2     > -----Original Message-----8 > From: Chris Scheers [mailto:chris@applied-synergy.com]+ > Sent: Wednesday, August 02, 2000 11:48 AMn > To: Info-VAX@Mvb.Saic.ComU) > Subject: Creating self extracting filest >  > G > Are there any utilities for creating self extracting compressed filesm > for OpenVMS? > G > For example, is the utility Compaq uses to create the DCX executablese > available? >  > Thanx! > @ > -------------------------------------------------------------- > --------- & > Chris Scheers, Applied Synergy, Inc. > E > Voice: 817-237-3360            Internet: chris@applied-synergy.com r >   Fax: 817-237-3074L >    ------------------------------  % Date: Wed, 02 Aug 2000 17:14:42 +0000c$ From: Steve.Spires@yellowpages.co.uk+ Subject: Re: Creating self extracting files / Message-ID: <0025692F.005ED275.00@quegw01.btyp>2  = Contact:   Tel: 3063  -  VSSG, 1st Floor, Bridge Street Plazaa  K What utility is used for the file compression that comes with FTSO? Is thatr* comparable to ZIP/UNZIP or is it the same?   Steve Spires VMS System Manager BT/Yellow Pagesn        1 system@SendSpamHere.ORG on 02/08/2000 04:00:42 PMd    To:        Info-VAX@Mvb.Saic.Com+ cc:         (bcc: Steve Spires/YellowPages)s< From:      system@SendSpamHere.ORG, 2 August 2000, 4:00 p.m.  " Re: Creating self extracting files        O In article <807A1E52B6FBC614.A70BC0D110C45B3A.BBEC094D8C0BECE2@lp.airnews.net>,-1 Chris Scheers <chris@applied-synergy.com> writes: F >Are there any utilities for creating self extracting compressed files
 >for OpenVMS?e >gF >For example, is the utility Compaq uses to create the DCX executables >available?S  E I asked here about the DCX compression stuff and never got any answeriC about whether it would even be released outside of VMS engineering.   E However, you can create self-extracting .ZIP executables.  You need acF copy of both VAX and Alpha versions of UNZIPSFX.EXE .  Create your ZIP archive and then issue:t  G $ APPEND/NEW UNZIPSFX.{AXP/VAX}_EXE,<file>.ZIP <file>_ZIP.{AXP/VAX}_EXE   C The UNZIPSFX is packaged with the ZIP/UNZIP distribution.  Look for- it on the WKU archive.   --O VAXman- OpenVMS APE certification number: AAA-0001     VAXman(at)TMESIS(dot)COM:   ------------------------------  # Date: Wed, 02 Aug 2000 17:10:48 GMTs; From: Jeff - Coachella Valley Water <cvwdmail@netscape.net>s Subject: CVWD6 TEST , Message-ID: <398855CF.72C760DC@netscape.net>   ASDFASDF ASDF ASDF ASDF ASDF ASDF AS DFASDF ASDF ASDF   ------------------------------   Date: 2 Aug 2000 07:26:57 CDT|= From: wayne@tachysoft.xxx.293778.killspam.0223 (Wayne Sewell)>- Subject: Re: DCPS woes / Tektronix Phaser 850 . Message-ID: <+gyuQ0TFnPXj@tachxxsoftxxconsult>  w In article <225b682b.1a8af29a@usw-ex0104-033.remarq.com>, Paul Anderson <pandersonNOpaSPAM@genicom.com.invalid> writes:  > Ken Fairfield wrote: > 7 >> As Paul Anderson of GENICOM is quicl to point out...o > : > As of yesterday, that's Paul Anderson of _Compaq_.  DCPS( > Engineering has moved "back" to the Q. >   K Interesting.  Now if they would just bring RDB and polycenter back into ther@ fold, maybe people could afford to start buying them again.  :-)  J And all of the other products digital *never* should have discarded in the first place.   -- nO ===============================================================================pM Wayne Sewell, Tachyon Software Consulting  (281)812-0738  wayne@tachysoft.xxxo: http://www.tachysoft.xxx/www/tachyon.html and wayne.html  K change .xxx to .com in addresses above, assuming you are not a spambot  :-) O ===============================================================================-P Woody Allen, in Sleeper: "I'm not the heroic type.  I was beaten up by Quakers."   ------------------------------  # Date: Wed, 02 Aug 2000 13:56:31 GMT  From: Berty <guyab@my-deja.com>e- Subject: Re: DCPS woes / Tektronix Phaser 850c) Message-ID: <8m99ac$p87$1@nnrp1.deja.com>p  - In article <rdeininger-2807000141310001@user-. 2ivecal.dialup.mindspring.com>,o5   rdeininger@mindspring.com (Robert Deininger) wrote:u5 > In article <OPT314W7fANO@mccdev.slac.stanford.edu>,sD Fairfield@SLAC.Stanford.EDU (Ken Fairfield; SLAC: 650-926-2924; FAX: 926-3515) wrote: >S? > >         As Paul Anderson of GENICOM is  quicl to point out,l Appletalk onD > >     VMS  _still_ works just fine under VMS/VAX 7.2 and VMS/Alpha 7.2-1.: > >     For recent VMS versions,  be  sure  you  have  the latest/last  MSAE > >     distribution,  MSA 1.3A.  I've installed _just_ the ATK piecev to get@ > >     the Appletalk/Ethertalk transport...no license required. > >-G > >         Given that, I'll bet you can  use  DCPS  to talk to the 850i overE > >     Appletalk  just  fine as an "unrecognized" printer.  Lot's of9 AppleoF > >     LaserWriters are similarly unrecognized but work properly.  (I have/ > >     no experience with Tektronix printers.)t >tF > Thanks.  I'll keep it in mind.  I haven't given up on the pure tcpip solution > yet. >  > -- > Robert Deininger > rdeininger@mindspring.como >.   --F Not sure how relevent or helpful this will be, but we I have a genericH startup command for our laser printers which sit on HP Jet Direct cards.   $ LPP44:5 $       initialize/que/start/processor=ucx$telnetsym-a0         /autostart=(NODE1::"123.45.67.89:9100",-/                    NODE2::"123.45.67.89:9100")- C         /base_priority=4/default=(nofeed,form=default)/prot=(w:rw)-e         /schedule=nosize LPP44   Probably basic but may help.2 -------------------------------------------------- GuyB2 Note. This post only contains my personal opinion.    & Sent via Deja.com http://www.deja.com/ Before you buy.t   ------------------------------  % Date: Wed, 02 Aug 2000 11:46:00 +0100 - From: Tim Llewellyn <tim.llewellyn@bbc.co.uk> ; Subject: Re: DECW$FD, what port does it accept requests on?-) Message-ID: <3987FBE7.93C7CDFB@bbc.co.uk>    Mark Daniel wrote:  = >  > I am unaware of any program that can serve fonts from an=9 > > OpenVMS host to a generic X-11 server through TCP/IP.  > > 	 > > -John  > > wb8tyw@qsl.network >MJ > Having recently required X Font Services for TCP/IP-based Xterms we knowH > at least DECW Motif 1.2-5 has such a facility ... if only we could getC > it to keep working.  There is currently a call in on it with CSC!r > ? > Have a look in SYS$MANAGER:DECW$STARTSERVER.COM for DECW$XFS.   H Mark, thats the buisiness. I guess I'd only done this with VXT's and LAT before,@' that was why I was focussed on DECW$FD.9  J I manually started DECW$XFS and it is serving fonts to my SCO XVision :-).K Now I can use monitor with small fonts, and I don't have to copy fonts onto  my+ PC every time the thing has the OS rebuilt.   F A few things to tidy up, and lets see how long it stays up. As long as thjats longer thaN# my PC stays up I guess I'm winning.0   Cheers   --6 Tim Llewellyn, OpenVMS Infrastructure, Remarcs Project0 MedAS at the BBC, Whiteladies Road, Bristol, UK.A Email tim.llewellyn@bbc.co.uk. Home tim.llewellyn@cableinet.co.uk   A I speak for myself only and my views in no way represent those ofc MedAS or the BBC.o   ------------------------------  % Date: Wed, 02 Aug 2000 12:12:16 +0100c- From: Tim Llewellyn <tim.llewellyn@bbc.co.uk>n; Subject: Re: DECW$FD, what port does it accept requests on?') Message-ID: <39880210.8E274777@bbc.co.uk>    Mark Daniel wrote:   > Woops ... it's port 7100.-  L Yup, thats the port SCO XVision uses by default. Now I have DECW$XFS runningJ all seems to work. I;'ve already lost connecion to the font server once in approx+ 1 hour however. At least it reconnected OK.S   --6 Tim Llewellyn, OpenVMS Infrastructure, Remarcs Project0 MedAS at the BBC, Whiteladies Road, Bristol, UK.A Email tim.llewellyn@bbc.co.uk. Home tim.llewellyn@cableinet.co.ukr  A I speak for myself only and my views in no way represent those ofe MedAS or the BBC.t   ------------------------------   Date: 2 Aug 2000 12:10:12 GMTs' From: david20@alpha2.mdx.ac.uk (D.Webb)a; Subject: Re: DECW$FD, what port does it accept requests on?y0 Message-ID: <8m9334$fi5$1@aquila.news.mdx.ac.uk>  ` In article <0mAemgwoQ81v@eisner.decus.org>, malmberg@eisner.decus.org (John E. Malmberg) writes:7 >In article <39870262.FDBED88@bbc.co.uk>, Tim Llewellynt. > <tim.llewellyn@bbc.co.unitedkingdom> writes: >>  ; >> I am trying to serve fonts from VMS 7.1 Decwindows Motif = >> 1.2-4, to my SCO XVision desktop, to resolve some annoyingi9 >> problems with Monitor system for some terminal widths.r ><snip>t< >> Does anyone know what TCP/IP port the DECW$FD listens for >> requests on?  >g* >It is listening on the LAT protocol only. >r  F This was true at one point but later versions of UCX and Motif can run the Fontserver over TCPIP. =L Definitely works with Motif 1.2-4 and UCX 4.2  and I'm pretty sure it worked with UCX 4.1.    Seeh  . SYS$STARTUP:DECW$PRIVATE_SERVER_SETUP.TEMPLATE   $ !6 $ ! DECW$FONT_SERVERS  $ ! D $ !   This symbol identifies which font servers will be added to theB $ !   end of the server's font path.  The syntax for these entries	 $ !   is:V9 $ !             "tcp/node:7100"         for TCP/IP access 9 $ !             "dnet/node::7100"       for DECnet accessp $ !/@ $ !   The port number (default: 7100) identifies the TCP/IP portB $ !   or DECnet object name used to access the font server.  Check@ $ !   the specific font server documentation and with the systemB $ !   manager of the system on which the font server is running to@ $ !   get the correct port number.  The default for both OpenVMS $ !   and Digital UNIX is 7100.. $ !v $ ! DECW$START_FONT_SERVER $ !sE $ !   This symbol specifies whether the font server (DECW$XFS) should C $ !   be started on this node.  The font server can be added to the E $ !   server's font path using the DECW$FONT_SERVERS symbol described I $ !   above.  The fonts known to the font server and the port number usedeI $ !   can be modified by editing the file SYS$MANAGER:DECW$FS_CONFIG.DAT.tG $ !   To start a font server on this node define DECW$START_FONT_SERVERo $ !   to be TRUE.o  I This is actually setup on one system here running DEC TCPIP SERVICES 5.0au   TCPIP> show dev/port =7100=                             Port                       Remotet< Device_socket  Type    Local  Remote  Service           Host  >   bg204       STREAM    7100       0                   0.0.0.0 TCPIP>    
 David Webb VMS and Unix team leader CCSS Middlesex University    < >AFAIK only VXT series X-Terminals can use it, and they only: >need one running in a network.  Enabling the LAT protocol8 >for X-11 on an OpenVMS system always seems to start the >DECW$FD process though. >e< >> Any other help resolving this issue would be appreciated.< >> I'd rather not move the fonts onto the PC as indicated in >> another thread. >O? >Some third party X-11 Servers use to have font server softwares: >for VAX/VMS.  IIRC: It was vendor specific, as the native9 >font format for OpenVMS/VAX is not in a portable format.m >i9 >I am unaware of any program that can serve fonts from anh6 >OpenVMS host to a generic X-11 server through TCP/IP. >   
 See above.     >-John >wb8tyw@qsl.network-   ------------------------------  % Date: Wed, 02 Aug 2000 15:37:37 +0100?- From: Tim Llewellyn <tim.llewellyn@bbc.co.uk>:; Subject: Re: DECW$FD, what port does it accept requests on?t) Message-ID: <39883231.5D1E0BC0@bbc.co.uk>0   "D.Webb" wrote:   b > In article <0mAemgwoQ81v@eisner.decus.org>, malmberg@eisner.decus.org (John E. Malmberg) writes:9 > >In article <39870262.FDBED88@bbc.co.uk>, Tim Llewellynn0 > > <tim.llewellyn@bbc.co.unitedkingdom> writes: > >>= > >> I am trying to serve fonts from VMS 7.1 Decwindows Motifa? > >> 1.2-4, to my SCO XVision desktop, to resolve some annoying ; > >> problems with Monitor system for some terminal widths.U	 > ><snip>c> > >> Does anyone know what TCP/IP port the DECW$FD listens for > >> requests on?P > >r, > >It is listening on the LAT protocol only. > >p >sH > This was true at one point but later versions of UCX and Motif can run > the Fontserver over TCPIP.N > Definitely works with Motif 1.2-4 and UCX 4.2  and I'm pretty sure it worked > with UCX 4.1.a >o  A  Actually you need DECW$XFS (X Font Server?) rather than DECW$FD,  for IP use.s   Cheers --6 Tim Llewellyn, OpenVMS Infrastructure, Remarcs Project0 MedAS at the BBC, Whiteladies Road, Bristol, UK.A Email tim.llewellyn@bbc.co.uk. Home tim.llewellyn@cableinet.co.ukt  A I speak for myself only and my views in no way represent those ofn MedAS or the BBC.l   ------------------------------  # Date: Wed, 02 Aug 2000 17:53:23 GMTp5 From: "headley sappleton" <hsappleton@sprintmail.com>e: Subject: FA: DEC Ethernet Local Network Interconnect DELNID Message-ID: <neZh5.3051$0W4.110424@newsread2.prod.itd.earthlink.net>  @ http://cgi.ebay.com/aw-cgi/eBayISAPI.dll?ViewItem&item=397388992G Auction Ends on:                 Thursday, Aug 10, 2000 at 10:16:27 PDT    ------------------------------  # Date: Wed, 02 Aug 2000 05:54:30 GMT0 From: Dirk Munk <munk@home.nl>3 Subject: Re: How to convert VMS ascii files to UNIXR' Message-ID: <3987B795.78CAFA1D@home.nl>v  > VMS has several types of sequential files. Some of them have a$ end-of-line character, others don't.> For a Unix type of file you would choose the Stream-LF type of  sequential file on a VMS system.= You can convert the file on the VMS system, using the ConvertP (surprise!!) utility.rE First you use the Edit/FDL utility to produce a File Description Files@ (abc.FDL), and than you can convert the file with Convert. (help  convert, help edit/fdl for help)G But if I'm not mistaken, using a ASCII FTP file transfer, the file will  be automaticaly converted.   Regards,   Dirk     Gene Homan wrote:  > K > Does anyone know what the end of line character is in VMS or, better yet,sH > if there is a utility (preferably that runs on Solaris, Linux, etc) to- > convert VMS ascii txt files to UNIX format?o > L > Please email me directly at homang@pcisys.net as I have little oppurtunity > to cruise this newsgroup.- > 	 > Thanks,- > Gene Homan   ------------------------------  % Date: Wed, 02 Aug 2000 07:28:47 -0400m2 From: "Richard B. Gilbert" <DRAGON@compuserve.com>/ Subject: How to convert VMS ascii files to UNIX87 Message-ID: <200008020729_MC2-AE42-192A@compuserve.com>r  J         VMS does not have an "end of line character" in the sense that Un= ix does.p  J         VMS text files are normally stored as a sixteen bit (word) binary=  G character count followed by an even number of text bytes, NUL filled ifAD necessary.   "The" would be stored as "3The<nul>".  VMS does supportG stream-LF files and you can use the CONVERT utility to convert variable- length records to stream-LF.  $ Message text written by "Gene Homan"J >Does anyone know what the end of line character is in VMS or, better yet= ,iF if there is a utility (preferably that runs on Solaris, Linux, etc) to+ convert VMS ascii txt files to UNIX format?C  J Please email me directly at homang@pcisys.net as I have little oppurtunit= ye to cruise this newsgroup.<   ------------------------------  % Date: Wed, 02 Aug 2000 10:28:25 +0200u= From: Arne =?iso-8859-1?Q?Vajh=F8j?= <arne.vajhoej@gtech.com> 3 Subject: Re: How to convert VMS ascii files to UNIXv) Message-ID: <3987DBA9.8E32053A@gtech.com>e   Gene Homan wrote:dK > Does anyone know what the end of line character is in VMS or, better yet,aH > if there is a utility (preferably that runs on Solaris, Linux, etc) to- > convert VMS ascii txt files to UNIX format?   0 a VMS file in STREAM format uses <CR><LF> as EOL/ a VMS file in STREAM_LF format uses <LF> as EOLt/ a VMS file in STREAM_CR format uses <CR> as EOLhG a VMS file in VARIABLE LENGTH, VFC, FIXED LENGTH or UNDEFINED format do  not use an EOL marker)  A The C RTL on VMS interfaces the physical format as a logical <LF>2
 terminated% format for files opened in text mode.u  G Text files FTP'ed from VMS to Unix should automatically be converted to8, <LF> format (if FTP'ed in proper text mode).  
 Confused ?  F If you try and post some more details about what you have and what the problemcD is, then maybe we can give you some better and more specific advice.   Arne   ------------------------------  + Date: Wed, 02 Aug 2000 07:56:21 +0200 (MET)  From: ZINSER@sysdev.exchange.dem Subject: Re: HTML Convertor@3 Message-ID: <01JSHJS9RJS29JFJ3Z@sysdev.exchange.de>0   Hello! > N > Does anyone know of a simple DCL command file that will convert a given textM > file into a basic html  page ready for the web. No fancy tags are required,o; > I have a large number of text files that need converting.c >   > Any help would be appreciated.  D 	Although not DCL you might want to check asctohtm. For more details         see-  3 	http://www.decus.de:8080/www/vms/sw/asctohtm.htmlx    				Greetings, Martin P Dr. Martin P.J. Zinser                                 zinser@sysdev.exchange.de2 Deutsche Boerse Systems AG                        O Koenigsberger Str. 29                                  Tel: +49 69 2101 5634   eL 60284 Frankfurt                                        FAX: +49 69 2101 3411P Germany                                                Private:  zinser@decus.de   ------------------------------  " Date: Wed,  2 Aug 00 08:44:05 +200' From: huber@mppmu.mpg.de (Joseph Huber)r Subject: RE: HTML Convertorl+ Message-ID: <8m8fvp$rsc$1@kiosk.rzg.mpg.de>n  ? In Article <F15BB07EE56ED211855600A0C913B9313E8575@apollo.ebop> / Raji Arulambalam <rajia@envbop.govt.nz> writes:  >sM >Does anyone know of a simple DCL command file that will convert a given textfL >file into a basic html  page ready for the web. No fancy tags are required,: >I have a large number of text files that need converting. >t1 Have a look at http://www.yrl.co.uk/ for AscToHTMt9 it's not simple DCL, but has a lot of formatting options.    -- u/ Joseph "Sepp" Huber,MPI Physik,Muenchen,Germany 9 huber@mppmu.mpg.de  URL http://wwwvms.mppmu.mpg.de/~huberf   ------------------------------  % Date: Wed, 02 Aug 2000 10:18:35 +0200 = From: Arne =?iso-8859-1?Q?Vajh=F8j?= <arne.vajhoej@gtech.com>  Subject: Re: HTML Convertorc) Message-ID: <3987D95B.2B704AEE@gtech.com>Z   Raji Arulambalam wrote:PN > Does anyone know of a simple DCL command file that will convert a given textM > file into a basic html  page ready for the web. No fancy tags are required,i; > I have a large number of text files that need converting.   # What are the special requirements ?V  = Web-browsers can display text format just fine, so since thate< does not work, then you must have some special requirements.  > There ar eplenty of ASCII-to-HTML converters out there (it may> even be easy to write your own in DCL), but we need a bit more! info about exactly what you want.F   Arne   ------------------------------  # Date: Wed, 02 Aug 2000 14:58:20 GMT@ From: jafsoft@my-deja.coma Subject: RE: HTML Convertorc) Message-ID: <8m9cu9$sak$1@nnrp1.deja.com>e  3 > Have a look at http://www.yrl.co.uk/ for AscToHTMc; > it's not simple DCL, but has a lot of formatting options.o   AscToHTM's home page is now at* http://www.jafsoft.com/asctohtm/index.html   The vms-specific page is atM+ http://www.jafsoft.com/asctohtm/a2hvms.htmlr  > The software is available free under OpenVMS, and as sharewareB under Windows.  The version available from the above URLs is aboutE a year newer than the version at DECUS (I think).  You can read aboutoH the program's functionality at http://www.jafsoft.com/doco/a2hdoco.html.D This documentation was converted using the software itself, althoughB probably by the slightly newer Windows version (which supports theF addition of fonts via CSS).  I should probably update the VMS version.  @ If anyone's curious, the software is developed as a command lineD utility under VMS, and has a Windows GUI "grafted" onto it.  A LinuxC command line version will be available just as soon as I track down=@ where all the library include files have gone from my system :-)  ; Anyone wanting help with the software is free to contact me- at "jaf@jafsof.com".    & Sent via Deja.com http://www.deja.com/ Before you buy.u   ------------------------------  # Date: Wed, 02 Aug 2000 17:13:12 GMTn; From: Jeff - Coachella Valley Water <cvwdmail@netscape.net>r( Subject: I NEED A .JPG VIEWER FOR VMS..., Message-ID: <3988565F.3583CF1A@netscape.net>  F Does anyone know of a .jpg viewer that will run on Open VMS 6.2 on VAXD 400 Model 90 Workstations. I only have a Fortran Compiler so I can't rebuild G a C program. It has to be a .exe that will just run or a Fortran modulel that I can link.   Thanks.r  ' Please e-mail to: cvwdmail@netscape.neta   ------------------------------  % Date: Wed, 02 Aug 2000 07:48:29 -0500t7 From: "David J. Dachtera" <djesys.nospam@earthlink.net>l1 Subject: Re: LAT node name change - documentationt- Message-ID: <3988189D.5E56169C@earthlink.net>    Russell Leathe wrote:h > I > We have a cluster of three Alpha 1200's.  snoopy (boot node), linus andj > charlie (satelite nodes)." > F > After installing the LAT service the default service is node Snoopy.L > I would like to change this to Peanuts.  Does anyone one know the steps to: > accomplish this?  Unfortunately I have no documentation.< > I assume I would create another service called "peanuts" ? >  > best regards,n >  > russ  ' Run LATCP, and see HELP CREATE SERVICE.l   $ run sys$system:latcp LATCP> HELP CRE SERV   --   David J. Dachterae dba DJE SystemsP http://www.djesys.com/  : Unofficial Affordable OpenVMS Home Page and Message Board: http://www.djesys.com/vms/soho/.   ------------------------------  % Date: Wed, 02 Aug 2000 22:02:01 +0930 % From: Jeremy Begg <jeremy@vsm.com.au>e Subject: Re: LDAP SDK for VMSs) Message-ID: <398814C1.A6D16BB@vsm.com.au>m   Malcolm,   Larry Kilgallen wrote: > r > In article <39876BA3.EBC587F3@its.canterbury.ac.nz>, Malcolm Smeaton <m.smeaton@cantva.canterbury.ac.nz> writes:I > > I'm looking for information on how to access an ldap directory serveru
 > > from VMS.  > E > Either buy the shipping product from Innosoft, giving the advantageDE > of a tested product but the disadvantage of a vendor just bought byB3 > Sun, with perhaps no long-term interest in VMS...r  K To the best of my knowledge, Innosoft is no longer selling any LDAP product-I now that they are owned by Sun/iPlanet.  (I could be mistaken.)  And they K have made it abundantly clear that there is NO intention to further developtJ their products on OpenVMS.  (It looks like PMDF for OpenVMS will be pickedE up by another vendor, but I don't know what's happening with the LDAPaC server.  In NZ, contact Scientific Software Systems, www.sss.co.nz)   F > ...or spend $39 (I think) on the VMS V7.3 SDK which contains an LDAPC > client as a bundled layered product, giving the disadvantage of aC9 > new package but the advantage of a more certain future.   > The LDAP client shipped with OpenVMS V7.3 is the Innosoft SDK.  J There is another solution which is available now.  The old (LDAPv2) Uni ofL Michigan client library compiles and runs on OpenVMS and also works with theI Perl Net::LDAP module.  If you require further details, please contact mea	 directly.R   Regards,           Jeremy Beggh  ;   +-------------------------------------------------------+m;   |            VSM Software Services Pty. Ltd.            |n;   |                 http://www.vsm.com.au/                | ;   |       "OpenVMS Systems Management & Programming"      |:;   |-------------------------------------------------------| ;   | P.O.Box 801, Unley,     |  E-Mail:  jeremy@vsm.com.au | ;   | South Australia 5061    |   Phone:  +61 8 83592155    |t;   |-------------------------|  Mobile:  0414 422 947      | ;   |  A.C.N. 068 409 156     |     FAX:  +61 8 82231777    |m;   +-------------------------------------------------------+c   ------------------------------  % Date: Wed, 02 Aug 2000 22:03:16 +0930l% From: Jeremy Begg <jeremy@vsm.com.au>o Subject: Re: LDAP SDK for VMSd* Message-ID: <3988150C.790BB9AA@vsm.com.au>   Malcolm,   Larry Kilgallen wrote: > r > In article <39876BA3.EBC587F3@its.canterbury.ac.nz>, Malcolm Smeaton <m.smeaton@cantva.canterbury.ac.nz> writes:I > > I'm looking for information on how to access an ldap directory server.
 > > from VMS.u > E > Either buy the shipping product from Innosoft, giving the advantage9E > of a tested product but the disadvantage of a vendor just bought byu3 > Sun, with perhaps no long-term interest in VMS...w  K To the best of my knowledge, Innosoft is no longer selling any LDAP productlI now that they are owned by Sun/iPlanet.  (I could be mistaken.)  And theyVK have made it abundantly clear that there is NO intention to further developeJ their products on OpenVMS.  (It looks like PMDF for OpenVMS will be pickedE up by another vendor, but I don't know what's happening with the LDAPrC server.  In NZ, contact Scientific Software Systems, www.sss.co.nz)h  F > ...or spend $39 (I think) on the VMS V7.3 SDK which contains an LDAPC > client as a bundled layered product, giving the disadvantage of a.9 > new package but the advantage of a more certain future.   > The LDAP client shipped with OpenVMS V7.3 is the Innosoft SDK.  J There is another solution which is available now.  The old (LDAPv2) Uni ofL Michigan client library compiles and runs on OpenVMS and also works with theI Perl Net::LDAP module.  If you require further details, please contact me 	 directly.    Regards,           Jeremy Beggt  ;   +-------------------------------------------------------+s;   |            VSM Software Services Pty. Ltd.            |t;   |                 http://www.vsm.com.au/                |n;   |       "OpenVMS Systems Management & Programming"      |i;   |-------------------------------------------------------|n;   | P.O.Box 801, Unley,     |  E-Mail:  jeremy@vsm.com.au |i;   | South Australia 5061    |   Phone:  +61 8 83592155    |s;   |-------------------------|  Mobile:  0414 422 947      | ;   |  A.C.N. 068 409 156     |     FAX:  +61 8 82231777    | ;   +-------------------------------------------------------+m   ------------------------------  % Date: Wed, 02 Aug 2000 12:06:49 +0100r2 From: Chris Sharman <Chris.Sharman@CCAgroup.co.uk>; Subject: mgftp 2.6-2 client, Win NT ftp server 4.0 problems . Message-ID: <39880ED9.44D2E747@CCAgroup.co.uk>  H Not exactly a vms problem, except it doesn't happen with another client.1 I've tried the madgoat list without any response.1  E I log in to a remote site, cd, do a dir/full & all's well (protectione -rwxrwxrwx until I break it). E Do a get/wild "CCASTAT.*" successfully, another dir/full (same), then  disconnect.0H Process the files I've just fetched locally, then go back to delete themD from the remote site. I've got cd & dir/full in the mg_ftp_init fileG (sys$input), and "delete ""CCASTAT.0001"",""CCASTAT.0002""" or whatever D on the ftp command line. If the protection allows it this appears to@ work, but a subsequent dir/full shows all the files still there,E protection ----------. Subsequent gets continue to work, deletes giveo access denied.E Rebooting the NT box frees up these files so that the protection's OKr again.  3 Has anyone else seen this ? Is there a workaround ?o   Thanks,e ChrisX   ------------------------------    Date: 02 Aug 2000 11:07:21 +0200G From: Jan Vorbrueggen <jan@mailhost.neuroinformatik.ruhr-uni-bochum.de>T: Subject: Re: Mlucas performance probelm - need expert helpH Message-ID: <y4ittk116e.fsf@mailhost.neuroinformatik.ruhr-uni-bochum.de>  D Yes, the allocation in the cache is in smaller chunks called lines, C usually 32-128 bytes long. The problem with page colouring is that 0A you get _additional_ problems from two locations clashing in the eA cache even when they shouldn't clash because their low-order bits B (those "inside" the page) are similar _and_ their allocated colour@ happens to be the same in one run (clash) but not in another (no1 clash). The thing with pencil&paper might help...1   	Jan   ------------------------------  % Date: Wed, 02 Aug 2000 11:49:59 -0400t# From: John Vottero <John@MVPSI.com> " Subject: RE: MOP thru firewall VPND Message-ID: <C15945A9D9EFCF11BA8B08002BBF1CCC0CD792@berry.mvpsi.com>  I There's a PC based MOP loader available.  It's a Compaq (Digital) productiC but I'm not sure if it's free or not.  It may be part of Pathworks.   G If you get that, you could have a local PC respond to the MOP requests.e   > -----Original Message-----4 > From: Jerry Alan Braga [mailto:jabraga@golden.net]) > Sent: Tuesday, August 01, 2000 11:30 PM- > To: Info-VAX@Mvb.Saic.Coma  > Subject: MOP thru firewall VPN >  > ; > Our company is looking replacing our current 56kbs frame o > network WAN to a> > SDSL link over the internet using VPN.  At our remote sites  > (being not those> > where main CPU are located) have DecServer 90TL that we use  > telnet printing.< > However these devices do not have flash cards and require  > software to be= > loaded over the WAN.  Currently we use Digitial RouteAbout D > Access EI routers4: > connected thru the serial port connected to the CSU/DSU  > modems from AT&T.V@ > In order to get MOP to work on these routers we had to enable 
 > the DEC MOPt@ > filter hex 6000 to be encapsulated over the IP for the actual  > MOP requrest? > packet to get thru.  Once that was done our Terminal servers r
 > could load.e > = > The current proposal that we have is to use as I said SDSL e > and VPN over the@ > internet.  The firewall / router is provided using a GNAT box  > software.x> > Does anyone know if MOP can be delivered over such a config  > or where I can7 > get better info on MOP and how to configure this way.h > @ > If this is not possible, do these terminal servers talk TFTP. 
 >  If they doi9 > than I guess it would be possible to setup TFTP server h > process on our remotepH > location NT servers and the terminal could load locally within its own- > subnet.  Has anyone done this and if so howc >  > Thanks in advance, >  >  >  >    ------------------------------  # Date: Wed, 02 Aug 2000 16:38:17 GMTs# From: Jeff Taff <cvwdmail@cvwd.org>i$ Subject: NEED A .JPG VIEWER FOR VMS.( Message-ID: <39884E31.FA512BDF@cvwd.org>  > <!DOCTYPE HTML PUBLIC "-//W3C//DTD HTML 4.0 Transitional//EN"> <HTML>H <B><FONT SIZE=-1>Does anyone know of a .jpg viewer that will run on OpenH VMS 6.2 on VAX 400 Model 90 Workstations. I only have a Fortran Compiler so I can't rebuild</FONT></B> H <BR><B><FONT SIZE=-1>a C program. It has to be a .exe that will just runK or a Fortran module that I can link.</FONT></B><B><FONT SIZE=-1></FONT></B>rB <P><B><FONT SIZE=-1>Thanks.</FONT></B><B><FONT SIZE=-1></FONT></B>M <P><B><FONT SIZE=-1>Please e-mail to: cvwdmail@netscape.net</FONT></B></HTML>e   ------------------------------  # Date: Wed, 02 Aug 2000 16:54:30 GMTt; From: Jeff - Coachella Valley Water <cvwdmail@netscape.net> $ Subject: NEED A .JPG VIEWER FOR VMS., Message-ID: <398851FD.AA2223B0@netscape.net>  F Does anyone know of a .jpg viewer that will run on Open VMS 6.2 on VAXD 400 Model 90 Workstations. I only have a Fortran Compiler so I can't rebuild,G a C program. It has to be a .exe that will just run or a Fortran module  that I can link.   Thanks.s  ' Please e-mail to: cvwdmail@netscape.neta   ------------------------------   Date: 2 Aug 2000 14:21:15 GMTe2 From: hoffman@xdelta.zko.dec.nospam (Hoff Hoffman)" Subject: Re: NTP Server on UCX 4.26 Message-ID: <8m9aor$39g$1@mailint03.im.hou.compaq.com>  k In article <8m7p8q$uuo$1@newssvr05-en0.news.prodigy.com>, "Dwight Brooks" <dbrooks@prosoftauto.com> writes:g: :Does anyone know the commands to put into UCX$NTP.CONF to- :make a VAX a time server (for an NT client)?t  3   Ayup, please see the OpenVMS Ask The Wizard area.l  )     http://www.openvms.compaq.com/wizard/   L   Short answer: add the following line to the UCX$NTP.CONF file, to convert    from a client to a server:       master-clock 1     Also please see:  P   http://www.openvms.digital.com:8000/72final/6526/6526profile_015.html#ntp_chap  C   Time to add this to the FAQ -- I've a section queued up with NTP hC   information for TCP/IP V3/V4 configurations and for V5 and later.   N  --------------------------- pure personal opinion ---------------------------L    Hoff (Stephen) Hoffman   OpenVMS Engineering   hoffman#xdelta.zko.dec.com   ------------------------------  # Date: Wed, 02 Aug 2000 14:34:25 GMTc" From: Thomas Knox <tom@vushta.com>: Subject: OpenVMS 7.2-1 on AlphaServer 1000 network problem) Message-ID: <8m9bhh$r0t$1@nnrp1.deja.com>0   Hello,  D I have an AlphaServer 1000 4/266 that I have installed OpenVMS 7.2-1F on. The install went fine, and I ran @sys$manager:tcpip$config, set myA IP, netmask, and interface, activated telnet and FTP, and started  TCP/IP.t  C My problem is that TCP/IP doesn't seem to be binding to my etherneteG card. It's a DEC 10base-5/10base-T/AUI card, and the system see's it at A startup, but insists on activating the 10base-5 port. So, I got aaE 10base-T to 10base-5 adapter, and plugged into the 10base-5 port. Allu5 lights come on and blink, but a sho net/full "tcp/ip"MC lists "Interface:" with no interface after the header. All #'s (IP,@C gateway, etc) are set correctly, but it does not use the interface.    I tried set G net "TCP/IP"/manu=dec/node=name/addr=my.i.p.num/netw="tcp/ip"/inte=we0: 3 but it just gave me a network already in use error.   E Anyone have any suggestions? I need to get this box on the network soP$ our developers have a place to play.   Thanks!- Tom-    & Sent via Deja.com http://www.deja.com/ Before you buy.p   ------------------------------  % Date: Wed, 02 Aug 2000 09:22:48 +0200$6 From: "Dijk, Jeroen van" <Jeroen.vandijk@getronics.nl> Subject: OpenVMS CertificationM Message-ID: <2795B75EF003D311801A00A0C906B51187E3FB@cucexec.gbc.getronics.nl>s   Hi,C  = How can I become an OpenVMS Certificated Engineer in Europe? c   -- Jeroen M.W. van Dijk  Getronics Business Continuity BV8 Error #152 - Windows not found: (C)heer (P)arty (D)ance.   ------------------------------   Date: 2 Aug 2000 14:31:23 GMTm2 From: hoffman@xdelta.zko.dec.nospam (Hoff Hoffman)" Subject: Re: OpenVMS Certification6 Message-ID: <8m9bbr$39g$2@mailint03.im.hou.compaq.com>   In article <2795B75EF003D311801A00A0C906B51187E3FB@cucexec.gbc.getronics.nl>, "Dijk, Jeroen van" <Jeroen.vandijk@getronics.nl> writes:> :How can I become an OpenVMS Certificated Engineer in Europe?   =   I will ask about this, and will post any (useful) findings.o  N  --------------------------- pure personal opinion ---------------------------L    Hoff (Stephen) Hoffman   OpenVMS Engineering   hoffman#xdelta.zko.dec.com   ------------------------------  % Date: Wed, 02 Aug 2000 04:26:30 -0700e? From: Mike Price <mike.priceNOmiSPAM@littlewoods.co.uk.invalid> 2 Subject: Re: Patwhorks Performance and TCP NODELAY9 Message-ID: <0040fa27.e5867ac8@usw-ex0105-034.remarq.com>-  < I have been doing some tests on our systems. a 12-13 seconds> file copy is not affected at all if the delay_ack parameter is+ changed, if the copy is from VMS to the PC.-@ However, if the copy is from the PC to VMS then the 12-13 second@ copy changes to 34 seconds if delay_ack is set but drops back to$ 13ish seconds if NODELAY_ACK is set.  ? I have found the equivalent NT paramter (I think). It is in thel registry underA HKEY_LOCAL_MACHINES\SYSTEM\CurrentControlSet\Services\<interface_m name>\parameters\Tcpip It is called TcpDelAckTicks - You apparently need Service Pack 4 to use it.  The default value is 2. < I have tried changing this from 0 to 2 and then to 6 and the@ difference in file copy times was  negligible (i.e. 1 second ish? where machine and network load could have been responsible) andu7 nowhere near the increase seen transferring to VMS with  delay_ack set.  ? If anyone else knows more or fancies doing some test I woul dbeh very interested to knowv   Thanks   Mike    ; -----------------------------------------------------------h  7 Got questions?  Get answers over the phone at Keen.com.l Up to 100 minutes free!t http://www.keen.comh   ------------------------------  # Date: Wed, 02 Aug 2000 14:48:25 GMTe% From: Alan Greig <agreig@my-deja.com>=2 Subject: Re: Patwhorks Performance and TCP NODELAY) Message-ID: <8m9cbo$rqk$1@nnrp1.deja.com>t  9 In article <0040fa27.e5867ac8@usw-ex0105-034.remarq.com>, B   Mike Price <mike.priceNOmiSPAM@littlewoods.co.uk.invalid> wrote:> > I have been doing some tests on our systems. a 12-13 seconds@ > file copy is not affected at all if the delay_ack parameter is- > changed, if the copy is from VMS to the PC.DB > However, if the copy is from the PC to VMS then the 12-13 secondB > copy changes to 34 seconds if delay_ack is set but drops back to& > 13ish seconds if NODELAY_ACK is set.  D So you are seeing a roughly 3:1 performance improvement with UCX 4.2C if you set DELAY_ACK. Can you tell us the size of the test file anddD the type of network (fast ethernet, atm etc). I seem to be seeing anA improvement of at least 5:1 on a Fast Ethernet network with TCPIPeD 5.0A. In fact on an unloaded network I think I'm getting nearer 10:1  C Short of taking the boxes out of service and setting up an isolated F LAN I can't be much more precise with the figures as there quite a bit/ of traffic kicking around our LAN at all times.   D So now we have another confirmation that an out-of-the-box Pathworks? Advanced Server installation (and possibly all Pathworks >5) is > seriously crippled. I think at this point I'm going to involve  the UK CSC and see what happens.  A > I have found the equivalent NT paramter (I think). It is in theA > registry underC > HKEY_LOCAL_MACHINES\SYSTEM\CurrentControlSet\Services\<interface_- > name>\parameters\Tcpip > It is called TcpDelAckTicksy/ > You apparently need Service Pack 4 to use it.  > The default value is 2.w> > I have tried changing this from 0 to 2 and then to 6 and theB > difference in file copy times was  negligible (i.e. 1 second ishA > where machine and network load could have been responsible) and19 > nowhere near the increase seen transferring to VMS with  > delay_ack set. >3A > If anyone else knows more or fancies doing some test I woul dbec > very interested to know  >' > Thanks >  > Mike > = > -----------------------------------------------------------  >i9 > Got questions?  Get answers over the phone at Keen.com.a > Up to 100 minutes free!c > http://www.keen.como >  >d   -- --
 Alan Greig    & Sent via Deja.com http://www.deja.com/ Before you buy.b   ------------------------------  # Date: Wed, 02 Aug 2000 05:45:42 GMT . From: "Chuck Shipman" <cshipman@earthlink.net> Subject: Re: PGPi and OpenVMSdC Message-ID: <aAOh5.3115$Z6.126860@newsread1.prod.itd.earthlink.net>    <snip>D >Please remember the parameters here -- the stipulation was that the0 > recipient has no security software in advance. >iJ As Larry indicated, the recipient expects the message - it is an advice, aE statement, etc. for a transaction the recipient originally initiated.s  I The sender is a standardized VMS username in the FROM field coming from aC+ domain that includes the institutions name.e  G The subject line is a standardized format with a date and a transaction F number (that correlates to the information provided when the recipient imitated the transaction).  I And lastly, the email will have been transmitted within 1 to 2 hours fromm/ the time the initial transaction was initiated.n  F Thus, the message header provides the recipient with a fair modicum ofH security that the message is really from the financial institution.  AllJ that is needed, is a means by which someone cannot VIEW the actual message- unless they have a password to open the file.s  H Thus, getting back to my original question, is there any method by whichH this can be accomplished without the need for additional software on theK recipients desktop?  One thought would be to use S/MIME as this is included- with Outlook/Exchange.  
 Any thoughts?2  
 Chuck Shipman  SSI, LP6 cshipman@earthlink.net   ------------------------------   Date: 2 Aug 2000 09:13:57 CST-* From: paul@kuhub.cc.ukans.edu (Craig Paul) Subject: Re: PGPi and OpenVMS0- Message-ID: <w694Qz092S9f@kuhub.cc.ukans.edu>.  i In article <3986D7C0.961C082E@gtech.com>, Arne =?iso-8859-1?Q?Vajh=F8j?= <arne.vajhoej@gtech.com> writes:g > Craig Paul wrote:n? >> (What? You don't have anti-virus software on your computer?)n > ; > There are *NO* anti-virus software that give 100% safety.  > 6 > There is always the risk of a new and unknown virus.  @ If you want 100% safety get off the internet and don't allow any% floppy disks or CDs into your system.c   ------------------------------   Date: 2 Aug 2000 14:29:26 -0500p9 From: Kilgallen@eisner.decus.org.nospam (Larry Kilgallen)w Subject: Re: PGPi and OpenVMSl+ Message-ID: <jRBTjzef2hvD@eisner.decus.org>e  t In article <aAOh5.3115$Z6.126860@newsread1.prod.itd.earthlink.net>, "Chuck Shipman" <cshipman@earthlink.net> writes:  J > Thus, getting back to my original question, is there any method by whichJ > this can be accomplished without the need for additional software on theM > recipients desktop?  One thought would be to use S/MIME as this is included  > with Outlook/Exchange.  D Certainly S/MIME is secure, but it has to be installed on both ends.  @ Since the title of the thread says "VMS", as does the newsgroup,A I will presume the Outlook/Exchange bit is a typo, as it does note run on VMS.t  A You could write a VMS program to do what Self Extracting Archives A do with Macintosh PGP.  Follow the standards like PKCS-5, as they > have been well thought out by cryptographers.  Use Triple-DES, which is not patent-encumbered.e   ------------------------------  $ Date: Wed, 2 Aug 2000 03:19:07 -0400' From: "Bill Todd" <billtodd@foo.mv.com>- Subject: Re: Quality( Message-ID: <8m8hur$1gg$1@pyrite.mv.net>  @ David J. Dachtera <djesys.nospam@earthlink.net> wrote in message' news:39879E0D.3B7A5ED3@earthlink.net...  > Bill Todd wrote: > >-< > > SysAdmin <djesys.nospam@fsi.net.mapson> wrote in message, > > news:39873C12.52F801F8@fsi.net.mapson... > > > [snip] > > > @ > > > If the author does not say, then what would you recommend? > >-F > > I'd recommend (as I already have) that VMS spend less time patting	 itself on6J > > the back for advantages most of the market doesn't value all that much and H > > more effort shoring up those areas (familiarity to users and support people,hC > > application availability, etc. - the usual suspects) the marketn perceives itC > > deficient in compared to its competition (which prevent it from 	 competinglE > > effectively even as a commodity, thus drastically restricting itsi audience> > > and contributing to the impression that it's fading away). >d+ > And you would suggest doing that ... how?w >x$ > Again, be specific, cite examples.  * I have:  dig them up if you're interested.   >e > >i > > >  The key to marketing K > > > (there's that WORD again!) is finding the market's "hot" buttons, and  > > > pressing them expertly.g > >iB > > Your faith in marketing could be considered touchingly naive - >r= > ...if supported by everyday practice in the market place...t >i > > especiallyG > > when applied to volume purchases by business people rather than Joen SchmoeI > > off the street (who may well have a definite preference for Chevy vs.t Ford -L > > but even then usually only if they're effectively otherwise identical in. > > price, features, purchase convenience...). >sI > "Poeple" make choices for specific reasons, usually reasons specific to+E > individuals, but common in the market place. "Business people" makeu% > choices for another set of reasons.  >bH > It is important to remember that there is a VERY large overlap betweenG > those two sets. They are not identical, but they are greatly similar.c >kH > > Marketing is necessary.  But it can't make up for much in the way ofJ > > pricing, convenience, or product deficiencies that the market views asF > > significant:  only among roughly equally acceptable products is it	 likely ton) > > be decisive, and often not even then.o >eD > How did CD's gain acceptance in the face of phonographs which were > common before then?   L Since you ask, CDs have markedly superior (digital) sound quality which doesD not degrade with use.  That means a lot to some people, and at least something to many people.    >aI > How did SUVs gain acceptance in the face of cheap, fuel efficient cars?>  I Because Americans by and large don't like cheap, fuel-efficient cars (notiJ that this is rational, but it is a well-established preference dating backI to the introduction in this country of cheap, fuel-efficient cars - which E back then weren't all that attractive transportation compared to whatlK Americans were used to).  SUVs are hefty, arguably more versatile, and have.G that good old 'big car feel' - not to mention having some relative costrK advantage over a comparable-size car due to their exemption (at least untiliC very recently - may have just been lifted) from car-level emissions 
 requirements.c   > ( > Ask any salescritter worth their salt.  K Any salescritter or marketeer can be counted upon to credit him/herself andtK his/her occupation with the success of any product.  The reality is usually  more pedestrian.   >oJ > I'm sure you've heard about, "the guy who could ice cubes to an eskimo".  L Yes, but I've never actually met him (or anyone like him), so I suspect it'sH just another part of the marketing mythos rather than anything one might consider evidence.   > It's all in the marketing...  K If that were true, commodities would not exist.  Perhaps your perception is  stuck in the 1950s.D  G Marketing is necessary to make people aware of the options available toiD them.  Beyond that, its influence on rational behavior (which is theJ behavior business people at least try to exhibit; individuals in their ownB pursuits may be less concerned about it, since they're effectivelyJ accountable only to themselves) is marginal:  non-zero, so everyone has to try, but still marginal.   - bill   >r > -- > David J. Dachterav > dba DJE Systemsl > http://www.djesys.com/ >s< > Unofficial Affordable OpenVMS Home Page and Message Board:! > http://www.djesys.com/vms/soho/    ------------------------------    Date: 02 Aug 2000 11:19:31 +0200G From: Jan Vorbrueggen <jan@mailhost.neuroinformatik.ruhr-uni-bochum.de>M Subject: Re: QualityH Message-ID: <y4g0oo10m4.fsf@mailhost.neuroinformatik.ruhr-uni-bochum.de>  ) "Bill Todd" <billtodd@foo.mv.com> writes:   I > Marketing is necessary to make people aware of the options available to9F > them.  Beyond that, its influence on rational behavior (which is theL > behavior business people at least try to exhibit; individuals in their ownD > pursuits may be less concerned about it, since they're effectivelyL > accountable only to themselves) is marginal:  non-zero, so everyone has to > try, but still marginal.  I I can't quite agree here. I have seen too many cases where decisions made-I by "business people" were anything but "rational behavio[u]r", in generallH but especially in the IT sector. Such as running the controller of a CATK scanner under Windows, NT or not. Or claiming that customers want a producteJ that basically uses the processor as an embedded system to run WNT instead@ of Linux or anything else (why would they care, or even know?).   L No, I believe that in very many cases, post hoc rationalizations are pasted H over what essentially are gut-reaction decisions. And marketing is quite$ able to address those gut reactions.   	Jan   ------------------------------  % Date: Wed, 02 Aug 2000 12:03:33 +0100 / From: Nigel Arnot <sysmgr@maxwell.ph.kcl.ac.uk>d Subject: re: quality7 Message-ID: <009EE002.2502007A.14@maxwell.ph.kcl.ac.uk>e  D The key to this debate is that people make buying decisions based onL *percieved* quality, which may or may not correlate well with actual quality" measured with a scientific metric.  D > How did CD's gain acceptance in the face of phonographs which were > common before then?.  L percieved quality and actual quality pretty much aligned. It helped that theK least discriminating listeners were also inn general the ones least likely c@ to take good care of their vinyl disks, ie scratched them or gotD fingerprints on them or just wore them out with cheap stylii, thingsD that CDs are immune to or much more resistant to. So it was probably> usability rather than fundamental quality that won it for CDs.  L Contrast VHS versus Beta, where price and availability were the key metrics,F not a subtle difference of picture quality (Beta was slightly better).   > I > How did SUVs gain acceptance in the face of cheap, fuel efficient cars?y  D percieved quality is subjective, and the SUV is a fashion statement,E every bit as much as flared trousers or crinolines were in their day. E In ten years time, must SUVs will be scrap and the rest treasured by eF collectors of late-1990s-automobiles, just as wierd slabs with lots of& chrome and fins at the back are today!   > ( > Ask any salescritter worth their salt.  F A salescritter may be able to educate or persuade a potential customerH to recognise quality in his product. I was once sold a hi-fi system thatO cost twice what I could sensibly afford ... and never once regretted buying it.t > J > I'm sure you've heard about, "the guy who could ice cubes to an eskimo". > It's all in the marketing...  B Not all. Much is in the customer's perception. A good salesman canD modulate the customer's perceptions. (But if he overdoes this, it'llJ only work once ... whether the customer complains or not, he won't be back a second time!)a  K My favorite example is the reason that the Japanese auto industry decimatedeF the auto industries in Europe and the USA in the 1970s. Up until then,I autos were mostly being sold to folks who had never owned one (ie, it wasdB a growth industry). They had no idea what "quality" meant, so the I manufacturers could substitute fashion statements (like fins at the rear)aH for decent engineering. And in any case, it was "well known" that decentL engineering put the price way up, and most customers couldn't afford a Merc.  I The Japanese worked out how to get some of the quality engineering into atF car costing no more than one produced in Detroit or Dagenham (UK), andH (luck?) just at the time when the auto market was changing from a first-H purchase market to a replacement-purchase market. Customers buying theirH second car had a much better appreciation of real quality after learningI from their first car. The result was that many manufacturers went under, i+ and the rest had to learn new tricks fast. e  M My guess is that at some point in the near future, the computer industry willtF undergo a similar change, in that the deficiencies of today's favoriteG will start to be seriously noted. Although we've been replacing systemstG several generations over, up to now each new generation has been so far H advanced compared to its predecessor that few lessons carried over; thisI progress will inevitably slow, when Moore's law hits various fundamental  * physical limits within a few years of now.  A As for VMS ... I've said it before, you can't ship a Merc for the C price of a Ford. You *may* be able to ship VMS for the price of theiH competition. Certainly, its reproduction cost is near zero. The questionG is to what extent its development and maintenance costs can be reduced, F without compromising the quality of the product, something I'm not in I a position to speculate on. Except, there is some awesomely good software.M written by volunteers in their spare time, and some staggeringly bad software+E produced by the world's biggest software company. This suggests to meuE that the cost of writing good software is not necessarily higher thanmK the cost of writing bad software, and that maybe you *can* ship a software t* "Merc" for the price of a software "Ford".   	Yours,k
 		Nigel Arnota- 		NRA@MAXWELL.PH.KCL.AC.UK                   f  7 		"In the beginning there was nothing, which exploded."e   ------------------------------  % Date: Wed, 02 Aug 2000 08:02:49 -0500r7 From: "David J. Dachtera" <djesys.nospam@earthlink.net>e Subject: Re: Quality- Message-ID: <39881BF9.2C274BBC@earthlink.net>a   Bill Todd wrote: > B > David J. Dachtera <djesys.nospam@earthlink.net> wrote in message) > news:39879E0D.3B7A5ED3@earthlink.net...h [snip]  > > It's all in the marketing... > M > If that were true, commodities would not exist.  Perhaps your perception is  > stuck in the 1950s.i  E I don't have time this a.m. for a long discussion, but I couldn't leti this one by...  D If that's true, then how do you explain the current trends (key word there) in consumer purchasing?  F Marketing has convinced the masses that they need everything from cell< phones per person to cars with internet capabilities (recent announcement by Ford).  G If people bought only what they need, there would no Wal-Marts, Circuitt@ City stores, Best Buy stores, CompUsa, Computer Renaissance, ...  H Yes, my friend, it _IS_ all in the marketing! First you create a need inH the market's mind, then present your product as the answer to that need.> Check with your local community college's business department,G instructor (or dean) of advertising and/or marketing and ask him/her if  that's not how its done.   -- r David J. Dachtera  dba DJE Systems  http://www.djesys.com/  : Unofficial Affordable OpenVMS Home Page and Message Board: http://www.djesys.com/vms/soho/m   ------------------------------   Date: 2 Aug 2000 10:55:26 -0400r/ From: jordan@lisa.gemair.com (Jordan Henderson)s Subject: Re: Quality* Message-ID: <8m9cou$7la$1@lisa.gemair.com>  - In article <39879E0D.3B7A5ED3@earthlink.net>,e6 David J. Dachtera <djesys.nospam@earthlink.net> wrote: >Bill Todd wrote:  >r > [big snip] > G >> Marketing is necessary.  But it can't make up for much in the way ofcI >> pricing, convenience, or product deficiencies that the market views astO >> significant:  only among roughly equally acceptable products is it likely too( >> be decisive, and often not even then. >-C >How did CD's gain acceptance in the face of phonographs which were  >common before then? > H >How did SUVs gain acceptance in the face of cheap, fuel efficient cars? >n' >Ask any salescritter worth their salt./ >w  H While I agree that OpenVMS needs more and better marketing, the examplesD you are giving actually shore up Bill's point.  CD's are not rougly ? equally acceptable to phonographs.  I remember all too well themB disappointment I felt when an album I loved so well to play a lot % would disintegrate into hiss and pop.t  H SUVs are hardly "roughly equal" to "cheap, fuel efficient cars".  PeopleG buy SUVs for a number of reasons which have little to do with how they rG are marketed.  Those reasons have to do with safety, status, ability tos5 carry large groups of people comfortably, etc. etc.  c  I >I'm sure you've heard about, "the guy who could ice cubes to an eskimo".  >It's all in the marketing...a >  >--  >David J. Dachtera >dba DJE Systems >http://www.djesys.com/s >d; >Unofficial Affordable OpenVMS Home Page and Message Board:u  >http://www.djesys.com/vms/soho/   -Jordan Henderson  jordan@greenapple.come   ------------------------------   Date: 2 Aug 2000 16:35:29 GMTn1 From: bill@triangle.cs.uofs.edu (Bill Gunshannon). Subject: Re: Quality, Message-ID: <8m9ikh$1ut3$1@info.cs.uofs.edu>  * In article <8m9cou$7la$1@lisa.gemair.com>,2  jordan@lisa.gemair.com (Jordan Henderson) writes:0 |> In article <39879E0D.3B7A5ED3@earthlink.net>,9 |> David J. Dachtera <djesys.nospam@earthlink.net> wrote:a |> >Bill Todd wrote: |> > |> > [big snip]d |> > oJ |> >> Marketing is necessary.  But it can't make up for much in the way ofL |> >> pricing, convenience, or product deficiencies that the market views asR |> >> significant:  only among roughly equally acceptable products is it likely to+ |> >> be decisive, and often not even then.C |> >F |> >How did CD's gain acceptance in the face of phonographs which were |> >common before then?  |> >K |> >How did SUVs gain acceptance in the face of cheap, fuel efficient cars?l |> >* |> >Ask any salescritter worth their salt. |> > |> iK |> While I agree that OpenVMS needs more and better marketing, the examplesoG |> you are giving actually shore up Bill's point.  CD's are not rougly iB |> equally acceptable to phonographs.  I remember all too well theE |> disappointment I felt when an album I loved so well to play a lot -( |> would disintegrate into hiss and pop.  G Not to mention the fact that the recording industry just stopped makingiG phonograph records and flooded the music stores with CD's.  What choice F were people left with??  I still have boxes and boxes of records.  TheG problem at this point is finding a record player I can use to move them 4 to CD before, as mentioned above, they disintegrate.   |> rK |> SUVs are hardly "roughly equal" to "cheap, fuel efficient cars".  People,J |> buy SUVs for a number of reasons which have little to do with how they J |> are marketed.  Those reasons have to do with safety, status, ability to8 |> carry large groups of people comfortably, etc. etc.    D Also true.  I drive a Jeep Grand Cherokee.  I even opted for the V8.B Why??  Well, let's see.  First there is winter snow, which the DOTC seems less and less able to clear in a reasonable or timely manner.mB And my employer has only canceled work for weather twice in the 10B years I've been here.  And then you have all these 29"x42"x36" DEC@ equipment racks.  Ever tried to get one in the back of a "cheap,A fuel efficient" rice burner??  Ever had to transport not only thew? rack but 5 RA80 disk drives as well??  Trust me, I like the gasoB mileage of my Triumph Spitfire much better, but sometimes the Jeep@ is the right tool for the job and all the marketing in the world won't change that.   |> .L |> >I'm sure you've heard about, "the guy who could ice cubes to an eskimo".  |> >It's all in the marketing...  A Which proves the P. T. Barnum was right and not the professors ina marketing schools.  
 All the best.1   bill   -- EJ Bill Gunshannon          |  de-moc-ra-cy (di mok' ra see) n.  Three wolvesD bill@cs.scranton.edu     |  and a sheep voting on what's for dinner. University of Scranton   |A Scranton, Pennsylvania   |         #include <std.disclaimer.h>   -   ------------------------------   Date: 2 Aug 2000 14:45:23 -0500l* From: young_r@eisner.decus.org (Rob Young) Subject: Re: Quality+ Message-ID: <8uBsxIIiZ0Un@eisner.decus.org>u  g In article <39881BF9.2C274BBC@earthlink.net>, "David J. Dachtera" <djesys.nospam@earthlink.net> writes:  > Bill Todd wrote: >> oC >> David J. Dachtera <djesys.nospam@earthlink.net> wrote in messagei* >> news:39879E0D.3B7A5ED3@earthlink.net... > [snip]! >> > It's all in the marketing...- >> -N >> If that were true, commodities would not exist.  Perhaps your perception is >> stuck in the 1950s. > G > I don't have time this a.m. for a long discussion, but I couldn't lete > this one by... > F > If that's true, then how do you explain the current trends (key word  > there) in consumer purchasing? > H > Marketing has convinced the masses that they need everything from cell> > phones per person to cars with internet capabilities (recent > announcement by Ford). > I > If people bought only what they need, there would no Wal-Marts, CircuittB > City stores, Best Buy stores, CompUsa, Computer Renaissance, ... > J > Yes, my friend, it _IS_ all in the marketing! First you create a need inJ > the market's mind, then present your product as the answer to that need.@ > Check with your local community college's business department,I > instructor (or dean) of advertising and/or marketing and ask him/her ifa > that's not how its done. >   = 	It's keeping up with the Joneses too.  Little Tybo mentions: ; 	"Gee Dad, the Joneses have this cool VCR in their mini-vani= 	and we don't."  And now a hot new item in the Circuit City's B 	and Best Buy's of the world is these VCRs that sit on the console? 	(or fit, whatever) and I'm feeling pressure to get one.  Can't < 	justify laying out the hundreds of bucks to placate kids on@ 	long trips.  But little Hunter does have an ear piercing scream6 	and I have an upcoming 11 hour road trip (and 11 hour+ 	return trip) to Kentucky in a week or two.a   	So maybe it happens soon!  > 	By the way, Terry Shannon has his own perspective on this too> 	with occasional references to Soccer Moms and their vehicles.   				Robm   ------------------------------  % Date: Wed, 02 Aug 2000 10:12:42 +0200$= From: Arne =?iso-8859-1?Q?Vajh=F8j?= <arne.vajhoej@gtech.com>1' Subject: Re: searching DCL cgi examplesp( Message-ID: <3987D7F9.3C878A6@gtech.com>  P >I recommend that you do not use SSI code in your HTML files, this would make it) >difficult to port to another web server.e  F Is Purveyor SSI much different from other SSI (Apache, OSU etc.etc.) ?   Arne   ------------------------------  + Date: Wed, 02 Aug 2000 00:32:40 -0700 (PDT)c) From: mohamed irfan <irfn_1999@yahoo.com> / Subject: Some details reg. Balance set slot ...g? Message-ID: <20000802073240.29279.qmail@web1602.mail.yahoo.com>K   Sir,  3 What is meant by Balance set slot and Process entrye2 slots? what is the significant/importance of those4 parameters? I will be thankful if a basic definition4 for these two parameters are given. How to calculate1 the settings of BALSETCNT parameters and what are 2 other factors taken into consideration for setting3 this parameter. Is there any maximum limit for thiss3 paramter? How to know that limit? Is it possible to / reduce the swapped out process in the system byt varying this parameter?x  1 For example a 7000 series VAX system of 512MB andy0 operating in CI cluster environment, what is the3 maximum permissible value for this parameter, whichs% will not affect the system operation?e  0 The questions may be more in number and might be4 dealing with basic stuff of VMS. Would be very happy4 and thankful if a detailed definition/description of the parameters are given.i  3 Anticipating an early reply to irfn_1999@yahoo.com     =====a    2 __________________________________________________ Do You Yahoo!?( Kick off your party with Yahoo! Invites. http://invites.yahoo.com/o   ------------------------------  + Date: Wed, 02 Aug 2000 00:28:25 -0700 (PDT)h) From: mohamed irfan <irfn_1999@yahoo.com>V/ Subject: Some details reg. Balance set slot ...k> Message-ID: <20000802072825.9019.qmail@web1604.mail.yahoo.com>   Sir,  3 What is meant by Balance set slot and Process entry-2 slots? what is the significant/importance of those4 parameters? I will be thankful if a basic definition4 for these two parameters are given. How to calculate1 the settings of BALSETCNT parameters and what are 2 other factors taken into consideration for setting3 this parameter. Is there any maximum limit for this43 paramter? How to know that limit? Is it possible to>/ reduce the swapped out process in the system byO varying this parameter?d  1 For example a 7000 series VAX system of 512MB andr0 operating in CI cluster environment, what is the3 maximum permissible value for this parameter, which % will not affect the system operation?x  0 The questions may be more in number and might be4 dealing with basic stuff of VMS. Would be very happy4 and thankful if a detailed definition/description of the parameters are given.t  3 Anticipating an early reply to irfn_1999@yahoo.com c     With Regards ... Irfan    =====s    2 __________________________________________________ Do You Yahoo!?( Kick off your party with Yahoo! Invites. http://invites.yahoo.com/    ------------------------------  % Date: Wed, 02 Aug 2000 10:44:40 -0400o2 From: rdeininger@mindspring.com (Robert Deininger)3 Subject: Re: Some details reg. Balance set slot ...-L Message-ID: <rdeininger-0208001044400001@user-2ivea4s.dialup.mindspring.com>  i In article <20000802072825.9019.qmail@web1604.mail.yahoo.com>, mohamed irfan <irfn_1999@yahoo.com> wrote:t   > Sir, > 5 > What is meant by Balance set slot and Process entry 	 > slots? i  G From the book "OpenVMS AXP Internals and Data Structures, version 1.5":t  > "A balance set slot is a piece of system virtual address spaceE reserved for a PHD (process header).  The number of balance set slotsu? defines the maximum number of concurrently resident processes."i  . (A process is either resident or swapped out.)  - > what is the significant/importance of thoses6 > parameters? I will be thankful if a basic definition6 > for these two parameters are given. How to calculate3 > the settings of BALSETCNT parameters and what areb4 > other factors taken into consideration for setting5 > this parameter. Is there any maximum limit for thisn5 > paramter? How to know that limit? Is it possible toe1 > reduce the swapped out process in the system by. > varying this parameter?   = Yes, I would think that too few balance set slots might causee: a lot of swapped-out processes.  But I think the important@ number is how many/how often processes get INswapped.  A typical; system has some processes that rarely or never do anything.s< They might stay swapped out for weeks without caring at all.  ? I suspect you do NOT need to worry about these details.  If you B have a performance problem, the VMS documentation set is the placeC to start.  See the "Guide to Performance Management" (maybe not thea@ exact title),  the "System Manager's Manual", and read about theF AUTOGEN utility in the "System Management Utilities Reference Manual".  F The system measure some "feedback" parameters, which get saved to diskD upon request when you shut down or when you run AUTOGEN.  If you let@ autogen use the feedback information, it will try to adjust yourF system parameters to match your system's workload.  This is FAR better2 than trying to fiddle with the parameters by hand.  3 > For example a 7000 series VAX system of 512MB andt2 > operating in CI cluster environment, what is the5 > maximum permissible value for this parameter, which,' > will not affect the system operation?h  = Impossible for us to say, without knowing the details of yourn' workload.  This is what AUTOGEN is for.u   -- r Robert Deininger rdeininger@mindspring.comi   ------------------------------  / Date: Wed, 02 Aug 2000 10:15:14 +0200 (MET DST)e& From: Rudolf Wingert <win@fom.fgan.de>: Subject: Support of PowerStorm P300 and P350 under OpenVMS6 Message-ID: <200008020812.KAA06753@sinet1.fom.fgan.de>   Hello,  C we do have OpenVMS 7.1-2 and would like to exchange our Elsa GloriacI Synergy card with a PowerStorm graficcard. Which PowerStorm are supporteda@ under OpenVMS 7.1-2? Do we need some patch? Do this card supportA 8bit PseudoColor- and 24bit TrueColor at the same time (Elsa doese only support 8bit XOR 24bit)?h   TIA and regards Rudolf Wingert  D P.S. Is it possible to use the PowerStorm 4D20 within the DS20, ES40      and XP1000?   ------------------------------  $ Date: Wed, 2 Aug 2000 09:40:45 -0400. From: "Kenneth Randell" <kenr@datametrics.com>> Subject: Re: Support of PowerStorm P300 and P350 under OpenVMS+ Message-ID: <8m988u$bk7$1@bob.news.rcn.net>t  J Support for P300 and P350 for VMS 7.1-2 (other versions available as well), is now available via a patch ... details at:  L http://ftp.service.digital.com/patches/public/Readmes/vms/dec-axpvms-vms712_ p350-v0100--4.README   Ken Randells   Rudolf Wingert wrote in messageo- <200008020812.KAA06753@sinet1.fom.fgan.de>...Y >Hello,b >bD >we do have OpenVMS 7.1-2 and would like to exchange our Elsa GloriaJ >Synergy card with a PowerStorm graficcard. Which PowerStorm are supportedA >under OpenVMS 7.1-2? Do we need some patch? Do this card supportaB >8bit PseudoColor- and 24bit TrueColor at the same time (Elsa does >only support 8bit XOR 24bit)? >  >TIA and regards Rudolf Wingerte > E >P.S. Is it possible to use the PowerStorm 4D20 within the DS20, ES40h >     and XP1000?o >a >c   ------------------------------  $ Date: Wed, 2 Aug 2000 09:41:05 -0400* From: "John Furlong" <jfurlong@merlon.com>Y Subject: Re: Tandem content at CETS2000 (was: Re: CETS2000 Registration is open and workit5 Message-ID: <tvVh5.42885$qS3.84095@tor-nn1.netcom.ca>.   Andrew,K  G Most of the "Tandem heritage" folks I've talked to lately feel they areeL being neglegted by Compaq.  Looks like this is one more symptom of NSK being$ a small fish in the big Compaq pond.   John  ! Andrew Mould wrote in message ... J >The "ITUG conference" and the Tandem / Compaq "Alliance Technical Update"' >are two distinct and different things:n > I >- One is put on by an independent user group, and the other is put on byt >Compaq's CSA group.D >- One is primarily for end-users, the other is primarliy for Compaq
 >partners.K >- One is a full trade show, whereas the other is a small, almost intimate,u >conferencec >d <snip>   ------------------------------   Date: 2 Aug 2000 15:00:00 GMTr2 From: hoffman@xdelta.zko.dec.nospam (Hoff Hoffman)Y Subject: Re: Tandem content at CETS2000 (was: Re: CETS2000 Registration is open and workio6 Message-ID: <8m9d1g$3k4$1@mailint03.im.hou.compaq.com>  b In article <tvVh5.42885$qS3.84095@tor-nn1.netcom.ca>, "John Furlong" <jfurlong@merlon.com> writes:  H :Most of the "Tandem heritage" folks I've talked to lately feel they areM :being neglegted by Compaq.  Looks like this is one more symptom of NSK beingr% :a small fish in the big Compaq pond.t  L   Hmmm.  From what I've seen, NSK and OpenVMS and such are doing quite well L   in the big Compaq pond -- there are certainly changes underway to how the K   customer events are structured, but I've personally seen far more of NSK .L   gear in the last year than I've ever seen before.  The ZLE demonstrations I   were seen at the Vienna and LA events, and showed off NSK quite nicely.0K   Tandem gear and Tandem sessions have also been prominently featured at a RK   number of the smaller Compaq events I've recently attended.  (I have yet DJ   to encounter a "suitably unaccompanied" NSK box for partial disassembly H   and detailed internal examination, but someday somebody will doze off ?   while on guard duty and I'll have my chance and my tools. :-)v  N  --------------------------- pure personal opinion ---------------------------L    Hoff (Stephen) Hoffman   OpenVMS Engineering   hoffman#xdelta.zko.dec.com   ------------------------------  # Date: Wed, 02 Aug 2000 16:48:48 GMTp From: rrbenton@my-deja.com Subject: TDF and System RebootsV) Message-ID: <8m9jde$1lo$1@nnrp1.deja.com>l  B I have an OpenVMS V7.2-1 System (DECNET IV and TCPIP V5.0a) that I@ installed last March, when the prevailing local time was CentralE Standard Time (CST).  There is no NTP or DTSS on tis machine.  At theuD time of the installation, the Logical Name SYS$TIMEZONE_DIFFERENTIAL2 was set to -21600 (-6:00), which would be correct.  < At 2:00am on April 2, 2000, a batch job executed the command  *    @SYS$MANAGER:UTC$CONFIGURE_TDF -300 +60  A and all seemed to work OK, and SYS$TIMEZONE_DIFFERENTIAL had beeni changed to -18000 (-5:00).  E Now, jump forward to the present.  I have for the first time rebooted B this machine since the jump to CDT.  After the reboot, a SHOW TIMEG still showed the correct time, but C programs were one hour off.  AfterlD some investigation, I found SYS$TIMEZONE_DIFFERENTIAL had been reset
 to -21600.  C Some investigation showed that the file SYS$SYSTEM:SYS$TIMEZONE.DATeC file had been updated at 2:00am on April 2, and I verified that thed? contents were indeed different from that of the file created atu
 installation.   F It was my understanding that SYSINIT used the contents of this file toF set SYS$TIMEZONE_DIFFERENTIAL, and I expected to find the -18000 value? after the reboot.  Does anyone have some insight as to why thiso- happened?  Or have I missed a step somewhere?r  
 Robbie BentonD    & Sent via Deja.com http://www.deja.com/ Before you buy.i   ------------------------------  # Date: Wed, 02 Aug 2000 16:52:14 GMTa; From: Jeff - Coachella Valley Water <cvwdmail@netscape.net>n Subject: test - cvwd, Message-ID: <39885174.7AB0D5A4@netscape.net>   test   ------------------------------  # Date: Wed, 02 Aug 2000 17:01:49 GMT ; From: Jeff - Coachella Valley Water <cvwdmail@netscape.net>i Subject: TEST2 CVWDe, Message-ID: <398853B5.96320970@netscape.net>   TEST   ------------------------------  # Date: Wed, 02 Aug 2000 17:04:46 GMTf; From: Jeff - Coachella Valley Water <cvwdmail@netscape.net>e Subject: TEST3 CVWD , Message-ID: <39885466.201B710B@netscape.net>   TEST   ------------------------------  # Date: Wed, 02 Aug 2000 17:03:45 GMT ; From: Jeff - Coachella Valley Water <cvwdmail@netscape.net>  Subject: TEST3 CVWDe, Message-ID: <39885429.CA584C08@netscape.net>   TEST   ------------------------------  # Date: Wed, 02 Aug 2000 17:05:49 GMT ; From: Jeff - Coachella Valley Water <cvwdmail@netscape.net>m Subject: TEST3 CVWDc, Message-ID: <398854A4.E34565F6@netscape.net>   TEST   ------------------------------  # Date: Wed, 02 Aug 2000 17:09:33 GMTT; From: Jeff - Coachella Valley Water <cvwdmail@netscape.net>e Subject: TEST4 CVWD , Message-ID: <39885585.E74FD17A@netscape.net>  > <!DOCTYPE HTML PUBLIC "-//W3C//DTD HTML 4.0 Transitional//EN"> <HTML> <B>ASDFASDFASDFASDFASDF</B>  <BR><B>ASDF</B>n <BR><B>ASDF</B>l <BR><B>ASDF</B>t <BR><B>ASDF</B>e <BR><B>ASDFASDF</B>a <BR><B>ASDF</B>e <BR><B>ASDF</B>t <BR><B>ASDF</B>r <BR><B>ASDFASDF</B>o <BR>&nbsp;</HTML>.   ------------------------------  / Date: Wed, 02 Aug 2000 09:58:06 +0200 (MET DST)l& From: Rudolf Wingert <win@fom.fgan.de>- Subject: Trouble with the Intel Ethernet shipl6 Message-ID: <200008020755.JAA06661@sinet1.fom.fgan.de>   Hello,  K AFAIK, Compaq will use the Intel Ethernet ship with all the new one Alphas.aK Now we do have a SGI workstation (Intel based) with the Intel Ethernet shipbK and we do have a lot of trouble with this Ethernet. If there is a havy loadlI on the Ethernet (switched Ethernet, one node / port) the workstation williH shutdown immediatly without any error message (no bluescreen). Does any-E body have expirience with the Intel ship within Alphas (bad or good)?t   TIA and regards Rudolf Wingert   ------------------------------  # Date: Wed, 02 Aug 2000 05:58:49 GMT  From: Dirk Munk <munk@home.nl>$ Subject: Re: Tuning FTP Performance?' Message-ID: <3987B899.1F606800@home.nl>l  = You could try using copy, and Decnet over IP if you have a IPr infrastructure.s     "Keith W. Hare" wrote: > G > I am looking for information on tuning the performance of an FTP file  > transfer across a T1 link. > J > To be more specific, we have a t1 link to a client.  The VMS machines onG > both ends are ES-40s, running VMS V7.2-1, and DIGITAL TCP/IP Services(" > for OpenVMS Alpha Version V5.0A. > I > When I ftp (using copy/ftp/log/verbose) a 2,000,000 block text file (ant > Rdbe9 > dump file), I get a transfer rate of 156 Kbytes/second.s > I > When I ftp a 18,000,000 block binary file (an Rdb backup file), I get a>$ > transfer rate of 14 Kbytes/second. > H > The text file has a variable length record with a maximum size of 2000 > bytes. > G > The binary file has a fixed length record with a length of 32,000 (ork > so)  > bytes. > I > I have played with the logical name TCPIP$FTP_WNDSIZ.  With the logicalhI > undefined, or defined to 9216, the binary file transfers takes about 17nI > hours, and the number of buffered I/O operations is proportinate to thee  > number of records in the file. > E > With TCPIP$FTP_WNDSIZ defined to 35,000, the number of buffered I/OeE > operations is about twice the number of records in the file and thed  > transfer takes about 17 hours. > F > So far, I have not found anything in the documentaiton that tells me > whatF > TCPIP$FTP_WNDSIZ really does, nor how I can improve the performance. >a   ------------------------------  % Date: Wed, 02 Aug 2000 11:37:32 +0100 ' From: Adrian Birkett <abirkett@csc.com>e% Subject: UCX 4.1 to 4.2 upgrade queryo' Message-ID: <3987F9EC.A7E8FDAA@csc.com>m   Hi,a   Alphaserver 4000 5/400, VMS=7.1   H I can't see anything in the installation quide, but does anybody know ofF any 'gotchas' when upgrading from UCX 4.1 to 4.2. Call me paranoid but this has to work first time!   Thanks,    Ades    3 ----- my own opinion, not that of my employer -----e   ------------------------------  % Date: Wed, 02 Aug 2000 04:17:36 -0700y? From: Mike Price <mike.priceNOmiSPAM@littlewoods.co.uk.invalid>.) Subject: Re: UCX 4.1 to 4.2 upgrade queryn9 Message-ID: <3b407af8.e3334614@usw-ex0105-034.remarq.com>   ? We upgraded last year and had no problems at all. We use IP forh? Oracle,FTP Telnet NFS and a load of user written COBOL programse using QIOs. = It runs on standalone machines and clusters but we do not use  any load balancing stuff.-       Mike    ; -----------------------------------------------------------8  7 Got questions?  Get answers over the phone at Keen.com.s Up to 100 minutes free!p http://www.keen.comF   ------------------------------  % Date: Wed, 02 Aug 2000 13:15:38 +0100T- From: Tim Llewellyn <tim.llewellyn@bbc.co.uk>t) Subject: Re: UCX 4.1 to 4.2 upgrade query ) Message-ID: <398810EA.55495458@bbc.co.uk>e   Adrian Birkett wrote:-   > Hi,- >-! > Alphaserver 4000 5/400, VMS=7.10 >0J > I can't see anything in the installation quide, but does anybody know ofH > any 'gotchas' when upgrading from UCX 4.1 to 4.2. Call me paranoid but > this has to work first time! >i  H Hmmm, its GOT to work first time and you don't have a test box to try it out on before the live one.t  K Now, what was BT saying in another thread about buisiness management makinge rational decisions.o  + I did 4.1 to 5.0A btw, never stopped at 4.2s    --a6 Tim Llewellyn, OpenVMS Infrastructure, Remarcs Project0 MedAS at the BBC, Whiteladies Road, Bristol, UK.A Email tim.llewellyn@bbc.co.uk. Home tim.llewellyn@cableinet.co.uke  A I speak for myself only and my views in no way represent those of  MedAS or the BBC.0   ------------------------------  $ Date: Wed, 2 Aug 2000 07:50:38 -0500) From: "John E. Malmberg" <wb8tyw@qsl.net>s) Subject: Re: UCX 4.1 to 4.2 upgrade queryt/ Message-ID: <sog66pamdbm150@corp.supernews.com>m  - "Adrian Birkett" <abirkett@csc.company> wrote., in message news:3987F9EC.A7E8FDAA@csc.com...  ! > Alphaserver 4000 5/400, VMS=7.1a >eJ > I can't see anything in the installation quide, but does anybody know ofH > any 'gotchas' when upgrading from UCX 4.1 to 4.2. Call me paranoid but > this has to work first time!  F I had a UCX 4.1 to 4.2 upgrade go bad.  UCX 4.2 made some incompatableE changes to the the parameters passed or returned on one of the sharedi images.y  E This resulted in the application access violating instead of running.   K The only known workaround is to save UCX$IPC_SHR.EXE and UCX$ACCESS_SHR.EXEBE and put them in a directory private to your application.  Then definer? logical names that your application can see for UCX$IPC_SHR andi  UCX$ACCESS_SHR to point to them.  I [This occured on OpenVMS VAX.  I do not know if the same issue exists fort ALPHA]   -John    ------------------------------  % Date: Wed, 02 Aug 2000 11:29:46 +0200f From: Om <olmesnil@euriware.fr>h1 Subject: Upgrade from UCX 4.2 to UCX (TCPIP) 5.0At+ Message-ID: <3987EA0A.CADBCBD5@euriware.fr>m  G Recently we upgraded an alpha box from UCX 4.2 ECO to UCX 5.0A, becauseCD of our network topology, in 4.2 we used special parameters about ARPF (like cache size and compelete timer) in order to reduce the broadcast rate around this server.  G In UCX 5.0A, it seems that I can't modify the complete_timer parameter,nG does anyone have an idea about how to maitain a record in the ARP cache  more than the standart value ? thanx9 Om   ------------------------------  # Date: Wed, 02 Aug 2000 14:54:01 GMT_) From: "J.G. Peters" <jpeters@sctcorp.com>h) Subject: Upgrade Questions - 7.1 to 7.2-1e0 Message-ID: <01bffc91$1a733ac0$32341895@jpeters>  
 Greetings.  G I've been asked (should say, told) to upgrade the OS from 7.1 to 7.2-1. E Currently, we have an Alphaserver 2100 4/200 and a VAX 4300 cluster --E separate system disks. The VAX is due to be "decommissioned" in Sept.nE Eventually, I will remove it from the cluster and the Alpha will be a,C standalone. Does it make sense to upgrade it? Can the two different  versions coexist "happily?"   H It appears that a firmware upgrade is also in order. I've never done oneE before. We're at 3.8 now. I have 5.3 and 5.4. media in my possession.v5 Do I have to go to 5.3 and then 5.4 or is 5.3 enough?r  ? We run Decnet Phase IV and have no reason to go to Decnet Plus. C Does this have to be installed separately? I seem to recall readingr% about Decnet upgrade horror stories. c  B I've never done an OpenVMS OS upgrade. I'm reading the 7.2 ReleaseC Notes, Upgrade and Installation and New Features manuals. The 7.2-1 F package contains just letters and media. Are there any other "gotchas"4 I should be aware of? I appreciate any and all help.   Thanks.m   Joel   ------------------------------  # Date: Wed, 02 Aug 2000 15:03:46 GMT % From: Alan Greig <agreig@my-deja.com>y( Subject: Versions of DSN - which is best) Message-ID: <8m9d8e$sf6$1@nnrp1.deja.com>l  ; I've read from time to time comments about the usability ort9 otherwise of DSN 2.2 and am looking for advice. Currentlys> we have DSN 1.2A installed on a VAX node but this will be shutB down in the not too distant future. Seems I have a choice: Install> 1.2 on an Alpha or install 2.2. Has the newer version improved: to the point where it includes all of the functionality of0 1.2 or should I just stick with the old version?   What are people's views?   --
 Alan Greig    & Sent via Deja.com http://www.deja.com/ Before you buy.e   ------------------------------  % Date: Wed, 02 Aug 2000 16:38:26 +0100 - From: Tim Llewellyn <tim.llewellyn@bbc.co.uk>w, Subject: Re: Versions of DSN - which is best) Message-ID: <39884072.A94E96B4@bbc.co.uk>l   Alan Greig wrote:e  = > I've read from time to time comments about the usability or ; > otherwise of DSN 2.2 and am looking for advice. Currentlyy@ > we have DSN 1.2A installed on a VAX node but this will be shutD > down in the not too distant future. Seems I have a choice: Install@ > 1.2 on an Alpha or install 2.2. Has the newer version improved< > to the point where it includes all of the functionality of2 > 1.2 or should I just stick with the old version? >k >d  8 I had some contact with the DSN support people last year; as we relocated our DSN equipped AS 255. At first they were A keen to get me to upgrade to 2.2, but it did become apparent thatn= a modem upgrade was also required. As I had heard not-so-good A things about DSN 2.2 then I had stayed with 1.2, and they supportg& guys didn't seem too bothered by that.   --6 Tim Llewellyn, OpenVMS Infrastructure, Remarcs Project0 MedAS at the BBC, Whiteladies Road, Bristol, UK.A Email tim.llewellyn@bbc.co.uk. Home tim.llewellyn@cableinet.co.uka  A I speak for myself only and my views in no way represent those ofl MedAS or the BBC.o   ------------------------------  $ Date: Wed, 2 Aug 2000 18:28:51 +0200, From: "Bart Zorn" <B.Zorn@TrueBit.nospam.nl>, Subject: Re: Versions of DSN - which is best* Message-ID: <8m9i9v$vp1$1@buty.wanadoo.nl>  B As far as I know, the only problem with V1.2 is that it is not Y2K
 certified.  G The V2.x versions all have a very strong Unix flavour and it is hard torK accept that it lacks functionality that V1.2 had. For instance: the chapter G about Cluster Support in the manual states one thing clear: there is NOi cluster support at all.b   V2.2E is useable, sort of.  
 Bart Zorn, OpenVMS consultant TrueBit B.V.  : "Tim Llewellyn" <tim.llewellyn@bbc.co.uk> wrote in message# news:39884072.A94E96B4@bbc.co.uk...o > Alan Greig wrote:n >o? > > I've read from time to time comments about the usability ort= > > otherwise of DSN 2.2 and am looking for advice. Currently7B > > we have DSN 1.2A installed on a VAX node but this will be shutF > > down in the not too distant future. Seems I have a choice: InstallB > > 1.2 on an Alpha or install 2.2. Has the newer version improved> > > to the point where it includes all of the functionality of4 > > 1.2 or should I just stick with the old version? > >a > >e >2: > I had some contact with the DSN support people last year= > as we relocated our DSN equipped AS 255. At first they wereSC > keen to get me to upgrade to 2.2, but it did become apparent that0? > a modem upgrade was also required. As I had heard not-so-goodeC > things about DSN 2.2 then I had stayed with 1.2, and they supporta( > guys didn't seem too bothered by that. >K > --8 > Tim Llewellyn, OpenVMS Infrastructure, Remarcs Project2 > MedAS at the BBC, Whiteladies Road, Bristol, UK.C > Email tim.llewellyn@bbc.co.uk. Home tim.llewellyn@cableinet.co.uk  > C > I speak for myself only and my views in no way represent those of, > MedAS or the BBC.  >b >    ------------------------------  $ Date: Wed, 2 Aug 2000 13:31:30 -0400- From: "Peter Weaver" <peter.weaver@stelco.ca>t, Subject: Re: Versions of DSN - which is best/ Message-ID: <sogmnifvdbm129@corp.supernews.com>-  < Alan Greig wrote in message <8m9d8e$sf6$1@nnrp1.deja.com>... >f# >... Seems I have a choice: Installa? >1.2 on an Alpha or install 2.2. Has the newer version improvedg; >to the point where it includes all of the functionality ofn1 >1.2 or should I just stick with the old version?S >4 >What are people's views?h    E DSN 2.2 seems to be written by the same people who wrote DIAGNOSE andfF Compaq Analyze (the other CA), not by the VMS engineering team. All of@ these run on VMS, True 64 and NT so they are coded to the lowestB common denominator. If you are comfortable working with Unix or NTD then you might tolerate DSN 2.2. If you expect CTRL-Z to terminate a' TYPE to the screen then stick with 1.2.      -- $! Peter Weavert8 $ input = "0756475627E277561667562704374756C636F6E23616" $ i = 0  $loop:, $ my_address2[i*4,4]=%X'F$EXTRACT(i,1,input) $ i = i + 1e* $ if i .lt. f$length(input) then goto loop1 $ write sys$output "My address is ''my_address2'"m   ------------------------------  % Date: Wed, 02 Aug 2000 11:37:36 +0100e2 From: Chris Sharman <Chris.Sharman@CCAgroup.co.uk>/ Subject: xpdf on compressed/encrypted documents . Message-ID: <39880800.624A1286@CCAgroup.co.uk>  ? Anyone know where I can get a working version of this for VMS ?g> Has to be from outside the US I guess, because of their export3 restrictions. I have MMS & DECC, and VMS Alpha 7.1.-   Many thanks, Chrisf   ------------------------------    Date: 02 Aug 2000 13:32:32 +0200G From: Jan Vorbrueggen <jan@mailhost.neuroinformatik.ruhr-uni-bochum.de>p3 Subject: Re: xpdf on compressed/encrypted documents H Message-ID: <y4ittjlwz3.fsf@mailhost.neuroinformatik.ruhr-uni-bochum.de>  4 Chris Sharman <Chris.Sharman@CCAgroup.co.uk> writes:  N > Has to be from outside the US I guess, because of their export restrictions.  
 No longer.   	Jan   ------------------------------  + Date: Wed, 02 Aug 2000 14:39:10 +0200 (MET)N From: ZINSER@sysdev.exchange.de 3 Subject: Re: xpdf on compressed/encrypted documentsl3 Message-ID: <01JSHXWB5XLE9JFCS6@sysdev.exchange.de>$   Hello!  A > Anyone know where I can get a working version of this for VMS ?N@ > Has to be from outside the US I guess, because of their export5 > restrictions. I have MMS & DECC, and VMS Alpha 7.1.o  = 	The latest and greatest version for OpenVMS can be found at O/ 	http://www.decus.de:8080/www/vms/sw/xpdf.htmlxr  < 	Please also check out the VMS specific notes linked at this 	page.     					Greetings, MartinP Dr. Martin P.J. Zinser                                 zinser@sysdev.exchange.de2 Deutsche Boerse Systems AG                        O Koenigsberger Str. 29                                  Tel: +49 69 2101 5634   dL 60284 Frankfurt                                        FAX: +49 69 2101 3411P Germany                                                Private:  zinser@decus.de   ------------------------------   End of INFO-VAX 2000.429 ************************