1 INFO-VAX	Wed, 23 Aug 2000	Volume 2000 : Issue 471       Contents:! ??==DCPS 1.8 and HP 4050 printer. % Re: ??==DCPS 1.8 and HP 4050 printer. 9 Re: AS250 SRM runs, but no graphics on known good monitor 9 Re: AS250 SRM runs, but no graphics on known good monitor  Re: Big AlphaServer Sale+ Re: Cluster transaction processing paradigm + Re: Cluster transaction processing paradigm + Re: Cluster transaction processing paradigm $ Re: Convert question - DCPS printing$ RE: Convert question - DCPS printing DECNet Phase IV Manuals ?  Re: DECNet Phase IV Manuals ?  Re: FTP Progress in VMS  Re: FTP Progress in VMS 2 Re: Here we go again - WTB/T/etc source listing CD2 Re: Here we go again - WTB/T/etc source listing CD2 Re: Here we go again - WTB/T/etc source listing CD Re: HP8100 printer Clue needed I NEED YOUR HELP! 1 Re: Internal Record/Index Structure of RMS files?  LEDs & VAXStation 3100 M48 Memo:  DCL Docu procedure  Re: Memo: DCL Docu procedure Pathworks - NT accounts problem + Re: Recurrent LTdriver crash, Alpha VMS 7.1   Setting VT420 to 36 line display$ RE: Setting VT420 to 36 line display$ Re: Setting VT420 to 36 line display$ Re: Setting VT420 to 36 line display$ Re: Setting VT420 to 36 line display$ Re: Setting VT420 to 36 line display$ Re: Setting VT420 to 36 line display$ Re: Setting VT420 to 36 line display$ Re: Setting VT420 to 36 line display$ Re: Setting VT420 to 36 line display0 Re: Setting VT420 to 36 line display - Found it.! Re: Sony MO on VAXstation 4000/60  system info  Re: system info  VMS and NFS % Re: VMS as real time operating system % Re: VMS as real time operating system % Re: VMS as real time operating system % Re: VMS as real time operating system = Re: VMS at home, ISDN, router, Linux, static IP addresses,...  VMS Backup on Linux or NT  Re: VMS Backup on Linux or NT  Re: VMS Backup on Linux or NT  Re: VMS Fortran help required  re: VMS Fortran help required  Re: VMS Fortran help required  Re: VMS Fortran help required P Writerscape.com is the Premier Written Works Exchange Http://www.writerscape.com  F ----------------------------------------------------------------------  % Date: Wed, 23 Aug 2000 12:41:26 +0100 , From: aus@vim.uni-wuerzburg.de (Hans M. Aus)* Subject: ??==DCPS 1.8 and HP 4050 printer.D Message-ID: <aus-2308001241260001@wvia71.virologie.uni-wuerzburg.de>  4 Will DCPS 1.8 work with a HP 4050 N (or NT) printer?   Has anyone done it?    --  B Cheers, Hans M. Aus, Wuerzburg, Germany,  aus@vim.uni-wuerzburg.de   ------------------------------  % Date: Wed, 23 Aug 2000 16:02:47 +0200  From: Kees <kees_b@hotmail.com> . Subject: Re: ??==DCPS 1.8 and HP 4050 printer.+ Message-ID: <39A3D986.FE711F33@hotmail.com>   = They even work under 1.7 (but you will receive messages about  "unrecognized printers though).  Regards, Kees   "Hans M. Aus" wrote:  6 > Will DCPS 1.8 work with a HP 4050 N (or NT) printer? >  > Has anyone done it?  >  > --D > Cheers, Hans M. Aus, Wuerzburg, Germany,  aus@vim.uni-wuerzburg.de   ------------------------------  # Date: Wed, 23 Aug 2000 05:59:33 GMT ( From: Terry Kennedy <terry@gate.tmk.com>B Subject: Re: AS250 SRM runs, but no graphics on known good monitor& Message-ID: <FzqDz9.qy@spcuna.spc.edu>  C In comp.os.vms Fred Kleinsorge <kleinsorge@star.zko.dec.com> wrote: N > The ZLXp-E (i.e. the TGA 1) is pretty old.  It needs special console supportL > to be built into the console.  The console is a finite sized resource.  My. > guess is that it isn't in for those reasons.  I   Actually, some of the code is in there - I was able to poke some of the H ZLXp registers the SRM code doesn't touch and get it to come up. But theH console does fully support it in ARC mode. I was told (in private email)H by the firmware developer that the decision to make the card not work in the DS10 was intentional.   L   Given that it's a discontinued card and people are either used to the ELSAK performance or went "you can't 'upgrade' my system if it has _that_ card in N it", I expect there isn't a big demand to get the support added at this point.  N > Unlike all other recent cards, the ZLXp-E* does not have a VGA chip or mode.N > It has special-purpose logic that drives the screen in a dumb-CFB mode.  The8 > screen resolution is dependent on the switch settings.  I   I'm pretty sure that the switch settings are an "opinion" rather than a H "demand" - the ARC console on the DS10 comes up in 640x480 regardless ofJ the switch settings, and I've seen posts from Linux users asking "why does% the ZLXp ignore my switch settings?".   N > We will be phasing out the ELSA card and replacing is with the 3DLabs Oxygen > VX1 in late fall.   J   Please post info when this is orderable, as I'd really like to try some-I thing better than the ELSA but not as hideously expensive as the 300/350.   - 	Terry Kennedy             http://www.tmk.com 5         terry@tmk.com             Jersey City, NJ USA    ------------------------------  % Date: Wed, 23 Aug 2000 12:01:21 -0400 5 From: "Fred Kleinsorge" <kleinsorge@star.zko.dec.com> B Subject: Re: AS250 SRM runs, but no graphics on known good monitor, Message-ID: <8o0sj5$1si4$1@lead.zk3.dec.com>  " Terry Kennedy wrote in message ...J >  I'm pretty sure that the switch settings are an "opinion" rather than aI >"demand" - the ARC console on the DS10 comes up in 640x480 regardless of K >the switch settings, and I've seen posts from Linux users asking "why does & >the ZLXp ignore my switch settings?". >     K The switches just set a register.  The driver  in VMS *and* the SRM read it  and follow it.   ------------------------------  % Date: Wed, 23 Aug 2000 18:07:20 +0100 B From: Andrew Harrison SUNUK Consultancy <andrew.nospam@uk.sun.com>! Subject: Re: Big AlphaServer Sale * Message-ID: <39A404C7.F886C5A2@uk.sun.com>   jgessling@yahoo.com wrote:   > Andrew said: > = > > But lets look at e*Trade as an example, the bulk of their H > > systems from a capacity standpoint are first tier web servers or midF > > tier compute(applications) servers, these are the systems that areB > > providing the network bandwidth not the OpenVMS cluster at theJ > > back end. This is pretty typical of most 3 tier WEB/PortalApplicationsE > > server/DBMS infrastructures with most of the systems being in the  > first two tiers. > >  > > > Yes, lets.  Not too sure what you mean by "providing networkH > bandwidth", but yes there are more computes in the first and mid tier.H > This make sense since customers do lots of browsing around (generally)H > that is handled directly by the web servers and more rarely do updatesE > to their accounts by trading (which goes all the way through to the  > back end). >   9 This is pretty much irrelevant even if customers were not : browsing arround the mid tier would still generate most of9 the bandwidth. This is because the data content, pricing, 9 past possition etc is only a small part of each page, the 7 rest, forms grpahics etc are generated by the mid tier.    > = > But there are operational reasons for more computes on top.  > B > 1) Etrade needs lots of redundancy.  The Sun boxes (software andF > hardware) fail quite regularly so plenty of extras are a good thing.? > Also needed is a way to take them in and out of service.  Sun I > clustering can't be used (too many nodes, too far apart) so application  > layer things are used. >   < You appear to be an OpenVMS advocate, I say this because you= have fallen into the classic trap that most OpenVMS advocates = fall into of assuming that because OpenVMS does something one < way that there is no other way of acheiving the same effect.  I Lets take the something like patches, if I was being a UNIX bigot I would A say, "The problem with OpenVMS is that you need a cluster just to " patch the running OS yeuuuuck !!".  2 You would say only 4 nodes in a cluster Yeuuuuck".  ? You see Solaris allows you to patch the running kernel, OpenVMS A does not and so the cluster is the best solution for OpenVMS. You H could also use a cluster to do this with Solaris but it isn't necessary.  G You dismiss the idea of using an applications server as being something ? that you need for Solaris but don't for OpenVMS because OpenVMS G has clustering. However applications servers which provide replication,  restart F for applications/objects sort of the equivalent of the OpenVMS CFS forC apps also provide a whole load of other facilities which would make G them desirable on an OpenVMS cluster such as load balancing, deployment  etc etc.  G Nor does using this kind of technology make the mid tier bigger than it D would be if you compared it with using an OpenVMS cluster to provideC the resiliance supplied by the applications server. This is because H apps servers can be configured and normally are in an N+1 configuration,G as are Web servers. In this configuration none of the servers are idle.   @ Nor does using this kind of technology require developers to use< Java, mixed environments are supported using C/C++ and Java.  B The real reason why the mid tiers require the bulk of the resourceD is that they are where the bulk of the work is done, from processingH market data to rule validation. encryption and process flow to, the back end is? just an OLTP system that gets hit with transactions when people H want to make trades get portfolio info etc. That is not to denigrate the  function of the backend systems.   > F > 2) Inefficient software.  The softwares on the Sun's seem to be realD > hogs.  Especially some of the Java based things.  So the result isH > putting (mostly) one application on each box and buying lots of boxes. > (not unlike the NT model)  >   D Uhhhhh care to comment then on why the Oracle Applications benchmarkA result published by Compaq for the GS320 shows the Alphaserver to E be markedly less efficient on a per CPU basis than either a Sun or an B IBM. I don't mean the GS320 is dissapointing in the sense that itsB performance is slightly slower than its SPECint results would leadB you to expect, I mean that its actually slower on a per CPU basis.  D Care to comment on the fact that the same is also true for the GS160> TPC-C TPM result where the system is slower on a per CPU basis# than an equivalent Sun, HP and IBM.   D Seems to me that you should be looking closer to home at inefficient> software because on the basis of these two OLTP benchmarks the Compaq boxes get that award.   > C > I guess that fact that there is more computes in the upper layers H > (besides supporting the usage patterns) is really an indication of how > bad those systems really are.  >    I guess there is :)    Regards  Andrew Harrison  Enterprise IT Architect    ------------------------------  % Date: Wed, 23 Aug 2000 03:46:38 -0700 5 From: Richard  <maher_rjNOmaSPAM@hotmail.com.invalid> 4 Subject: Re: Cluster transaction processing paradigm9 Message-ID: <37fa504d.1aeb180e@usw-ex0108-062.remarq.com>    Hi Jim,   9 What would you or your company want to go back to VMS and 2 upgrade DECdtm to be XA, TIP and TCP/IP compliant?  9 (No disrespect meant to any engineer(s) currently looking ; after DECdtm. If in fact there is anyone looking after it?)   9 Are you aware that the VMS future directions brains trust 7 has cited "The DECdtm code being to hard/complicated to ; upgrade" as one of the reasons for leaving it in moth-balls 9 and pouring money into their RTR everywhere vision of the  world?  9 On RTR, the guy who sits next to me (who worked on SEATS) ; tells me that RTR had nothing to do with the trading system 8 and was only used with ASX's back office systems. I know: that nobody here said otherwise but I thought it was worth
 pointing out.   8 The original poster did seem to have a store-and-forward( requirement so maybe RTR is appropriate.  2 On TIBCO, I personally know of two large financial9 institutions in London that are questioning the wisdom of  purchasing it.   Regards Richard Maher.     * Sent from AltaVista http://www.altavista.com Where you can also find related Web Pages, Images, Audios, Videos, News, and Shopping.  Smart is Beautiful    ------------------------------  % Date: Wed, 23 Aug 2000 08:40:01 -0400 0 From: Jim Jennis <jjennis@discovery.fuentez.com>4 Subject: Re: Cluster transaction processing paradigmD Message-ID: <3.0.5.32.20000823084001.009c9b60@discovery.fuentez.com>   Hi Richard,   H That's a good question. Several years ago, I was involved in a MAJOR DCEK implementation (for my former employer) in which VMS was (supposed) to play  a major role.   K What ended up happening is that the lack of XA/TIP/TCP compatibility in the J OVMS TP support was a key factor in the company deciding to phase out OVMS/ as a strategic platform and go to Unix (HP-UX).   K Had Compaq decided to do this 3-4 years ago, OVMS would have been a natural I choice, now, there is so much investment in Unix that moving back to OVMS ! would be prohibitively expensive.   K At my new company, we still use OVMS a lot, but, sadly, most of the time we 2 use it to help our customers migrate away from it.   Regards,   Jim   ' At 03:46 AM 8/23/2000 -0700, you wrote:  >Hi Jim, > : >What would you or your company want to go back to VMS and3 >upgrade DECdtm to be XA, TIP and TCP/IP compliant?  > : >(No disrespect meant to any engineer(s) currently looking< >after DECdtm. If in fact there is anyone looking after it?) > : >Are you aware that the VMS future directions brains trust8 >has cited "The DECdtm code being to hard/complicated to< >upgrade" as one of the reasons for leaving it in moth-balls: >and pouring money into their RTR everywhere vision of the >world?  > : >On RTR, the guy who sits next to me (who worked on SEATS)< >tells me that RTR had nothing to do with the trading system9 >and was only used with ASX's back office systems. I know ; >that nobody here said otherwise but I thought it was worth  >pointing out. > 9 >The original poster did seem to have a store-and-forward ) >requirement so maybe RTR is appropriate.  > 3 >On TIBCO, I personally know of two large financial : >institutions in London that are questioning the wisdom of >purchasing it.   8 --------------------------------------------------------7 FSC - Building Better Information Technology Solutions- 7       from the Production Floor to the Customer's Door. 8 --------------------------------------------------------5 Jim Jennis, Technical Director for Commercial Systems  Fuentez Systems Concepts, Inc. 1 Discovery Place, Suite 2 Martinsburg, WV. 25401 USA   # Phone: +001 (304) 263-0163 ext. 235  Fax:   +001 (304) 263-0702% Email: jjennis@discovery.fuentez.com          jhjennis@shentel.net & WEB: http://www.discovery.fuentez.com/   ------------------------------  # Date: Wed, 23 Aug 2000 13:32:21 GMT ? From: Jim.Johnson@software-exploration.nospam.com (Jim Johnson) 4 Subject: Re: Cluster transaction processing paradigm0 Message-ID: <39a3cdba.19162724@news.demon.co.uk>  
 Jim, Richard,   F I dearly, dearly wish that I could.  My direct involvement with DECdtmC ended in 1991, shortly before I returned to the US from my first UK F secondment.  However, I worked to stay aware of what was going on with it until I left Compaq in 1999.   F I can say that there are no technical reasons why it shouldn't support) XA/TIP/TCP, and have been none for years.   F As for it being hard to upgrade, no I'd not heard it.  I was not askedF about this before I left Compaq in Feb 1999, and I've obviously had noC conversations on matter since then.  While I strongly disagree with F their conclusions, I have no information for making any suggestions asD to why they reached that conclusion, or even who 'they' are.  I alsoE have no current knowledge as to who may or may not be maintaining it.   A However, returning to Richard's first question: If Compaq VMS has C interest in hiring Software Exploration to do this work, I would be A extremely interested in talking to them about it.  Tell me who to 4 contact to deliver that message directly and I will.  ? Finally, the 'VMS brains trust' may well have other reasons for E pushing an RTR-everywhere solution.  I have no reason for questioning B that.  I can just say with some high degree of confidence that theB inability to adjust DECdtm for XA, TIP, and TCP is not technically
 justified.     Jim.    . On Wed, 23 Aug 2000 08:40:01 -0400, Jim Jennis& <jjennis@discovery.fuentez.com> wrote:   >Hi Richard, >aI >That's a good question. Several years ago, I was involved in a MAJOR DCE L >implementation (for my former employer) in which VMS was (supposed) to play >a major role.   >iL >What ended up happening is that the lack of XA/TIP/TCP compatibility in theK >OVMS TP support was a key factor in the company deciding to phase out OVMSi0 >as a strategic platform and go to Unix (HP-UX). >EL >Had Compaq decided to do this 3-4 years ago, OVMS would have been a naturalJ >choice, now, there is so much investment in Unix that moving back to OVMS" >would be prohibitively expensive. >nL >At my new company, we still use OVMS a lot, but, sadly, most of the time we3 >use it to help our customers migrate away from it.u >e	 >Regards,D >U >Jim > ( >At 03:46 AM 8/23/2000 -0700, you wrote:	 >>Hi Jim,E >>; >>What would you or your company want to go back to VMS andC4 >>upgrade DECdtm to be XA, TIP and TCP/IP compliant? >>; >>(No disrespect meant to any engineer(s) currently lookingi= >>after DECdtm. If in fact there is anyone looking after it?)T >>; >>Are you aware that the VMS future directions brains trust 9 >>has cited "The DECdtm code being to hard/complicated toi= >>upgrade" as one of the reasons for leaving it in moth-ballsT; >>and pouring money into their RTR everywhere vision of the  >>world? >>; >>On RTR, the guy who sits next to me (who worked on SEATS)-= >>tells me that RTR had nothing to do with the trading systeme: >>and was only used with ASX's back office systems. I know< >>that nobody here said otherwise but I thought it was worth >>pointing out.g >>: >>The original poster did seem to have a store-and-forward* >>requirement so maybe RTR is appropriate. >>4 >>On TIBCO, I personally know of two large financial; >>institutions in London that are questioning the wisdom ofr >>purchasing it. >t9 >-------------------------------------------------------- 8 >FSC - Building Better Information Technology Solutions-8 >      from the Production Floor to the Customer's Door.9 >---------------------------------------------------------6 >Jim Jennis, Technical Director for Commercial Systems >Fuentez Systems Concepts, Inc.) >1 Discovery Place, Suite 2P >Martinsburg, WV. 25401D >USA >0$ >Phone: +001 (304) 263-0163 ext. 235 >Fax:   +001 (304) 263-0702o& >Email: jjennis@discovery.fuentez.com  >       jhjennis@shentel.net' >WEB: http://www.discovery.fuentez.com/  >@   Jim Johnsonr Software Exploration, Ltd.' Software Navigation and Discovery Tools2   ------------------------------  % Date: Wed, 23 Aug 2000 12:24:48 +0200 > From: "Jean-Franois Marchal" <jean-francois.marchal@x9000.fr>- Subject: Re: Convert question - DCPS printinge2 Message-ID: <8o08kh$9et$1@s1.read.news.oleane.net>  F Thanks for the info ... I looked at the RMS Utilities Ref Manual too .  B As this file structure is standard, I thought DCPS should print itB properly. It should skip 66 lines, to start printing at the top of@ the second sheet, but the first line is printed on line 66 (used& DATA_TYPE=LIST to check line numbers).  E I will need to convert the file to "standard text file" with variableeF format and carriage_return carriage control. A simple convert does notL process carriage control information. There is no form feed in the convertedL file, neither does it process "skip n lines" specifications. (the "5" stands, for 0 0 0 1 1 0 1 0 1 that is skip 53 lines)  F Is there any tool to do it automatically ? or should I write some code to convert the file ?    Cordialement
 Jean-Franoiss    0 "John Vottero" <John@MVPSI.com> wrote in message> news:C15945A9D9EFCF11BA8B08002BBF1CCC0CD7BF@berry.mvpsi.com...H > "Print" carriage control files use the first 2 bytes of each record asG > carriage control.  I think this originated in the COBOL language.  Atc least,D > COBOL is the only language I've ever seen that could produce Print carriage > control output.  >hL > The first byte is the carriage control which should happen before the lineL > is printed and the second byte is the carriage control which should happenJ > after the line is printed.  Values 0 through 1F are a number of lines toL > advance.  The first line begins with a B which is ASCII 66 so there are 66J > line advances before the line prints.  This is all documented in the RMS	 > manual.  >m > > -----Original Message-----F > > From: Jean-Franois Marchal [mailto:jean-francois.marchal@x9000.fr]* > > Sent: Tuesday, August 22, 2000 1:25 PM > > To: Info-VAX@Mvb.Saic.Coms > > Subject: Convert questiont > >E > >a > > Bonjour a tous ... > >37 > > I've got a file with the following rms definition :w > >h > > FILE' > >  ORGANIZATION            sequentialh > >e
 > > RECORD  > >  BLOCK_SPAN              yes" > >  CARRIAGE_CONTROL        print > >  CONTROL_FIELD_SIZE      2  > >  FORMAT                  vfc  > >  SIZE                    132 > >-B > > When I look at the carriage control specifiers of the records,; > > the first "page" of the document begins with a "B", and:2 > > subsequent pages with "1". Some lines with "5" > >e? > > What doest the "B" mean and "5" mean for carriage control ?  > >s? > > When I print the file with DCPS v1.7, the first line of thenA > > first page is printed on line 66 of the sheet, as is the linepE > > beginning with "5" and the other pages with carriage control "1".r > >n > > Cordialement > >e > > Jean-Francois Marchalt > > X9000 - LYON (FR)  > >w > >s > >  >    ------------------------------  % Date: Wed, 23 Aug 2000 10:53:15 -0400-# From: John Vottero <John@MVPSI.com> - Subject: RE: Convert question - DCPS printingHD Message-ID: <C15945A9D9EFCF11BA8B08002BBF1CCC0CD7C0@berry.mvpsi.com>  L I don't have any problems with DCPS printing "Print" carriage control files.I I don't have anything which starts with a 66 line skip but the multi-linep: skips that I do have work correctly.  I'm using DCPS V1.5.  H I don't know of a utility to convert Print carriage control to something else.    > -----Original Message-----D > From: Jean-Franois Marchal [mailto:jean-francois.marchal@x9000.fr]* > Sent: Wednesday, August 23, 2000 6:25 AM > To: Info-VAX@Mvb.Saic.Come/ > Subject: Re: Convert question - DCPS printings >  > H > Thanks for the info ... I looked at the RMS Utilities Ref Manual too . > D > As this file structure is standard, I thought DCPS should print itD > properly. It should skip 66 lines, to start printing at the top ofB > the second sheet, but the first line is printed on line 66 (used( > DATA_TYPE=LIST to check line numbers). > G > I will need to convert the file to "standard text file" with variabledH > format and carriage_return carriage control. A simple convert does not> > process carriage control information. There is no form feed  > in the converted? > file, neither does it process "skip n lines" specifications. l > (the "5" stands . > for 0 0 0 1 1 0 1 0 1 that is skip 53 lines) > H > Is there any tool to do it automatically ? or should I write some code > to convert the file ?e >  > Cordialement > Jean-Francoiss >  > 2 > "John Vottero" <John@MVPSI.com> wrote in message@ > news:C15945A9D9EFCF11BA8B08002BBF1CCC0CD7BF@berry.mvpsi.com...< > > "Print" carriage control files use the first 2 bytes of  > each record as< > > carriage control.  I think this originated in the COBOL  > language.  Atn > least,F > > COBOL is the only language I've ever seen that could produce Print
 > carriage > > control output.a > >n? > > The first byte is the carriage control which should happen o > before the linen; > > is printed and the second byte is the carriage control f > which should happeno: > > after the line is printed.  Values 0 through 1F are a  > number of lines to? > > advance.  The first line begins with a B which is ASCII 66   > so there are 66.7 > > line advances before the line prints.  This is all l > documented in the RMSs > > manual.  > >e  > > > -----Original Message-----H > > > From: Jean-Franois Marchal [mailto:jean-francois.marchal@x9000.fr], > > > Sent: Tuesday, August 22, 2000 1:25 PM > > > To: Info-VAX@Mvb.Saic.Comt > > > Subject: Convert questiono > > >M > > >s > > > Bonjour a tous ... > > >e9 > > > I've got a file with the following rms definition :  > > >p
 > > > FILE) > > >  ORGANIZATION            sequentialS > > >r > > > RECORD" > > >  BLOCK_SPAN              yes$ > > >  CARRIAGE_CONTROL        print  > > >  CONTROL_FIELD_SIZE      2" > > >  FORMAT                  vfc" > > >  SIZE                    132 > > > D > > > When I look at the carriage control specifiers of the records,= > > > the first "page" of the document begins with a "B", andp4 > > > subsequent pages with "1". Some lines with "5" > > >gA > > > What doest the "B" mean and "5" mean for carriage control ?  > > > A > > > When I print the file with DCPS v1.7, the first line of the C > > > first page is printed on line 66 of the sheet, as is the linesG > > > beginning with "5" and the other pages with carriage control "1".  > > >  > > > Cordialement > > >s > > > Jean-Francois Marchal  > > > X9000 - LYON (FR)  > > >i > > >k > > >  > >l >  >  >  >  >    ------------------------------   Date: 23 Aug 2000 12:03:08 GMT) From: leslie@clio.rice.edu (Jerry Leslie)a" Subject: DECNet Phase IV Manuals ?' Message-ID: <8o0ehs$dke$1@joe.rice.edu>i* Keywords: vms,decnet,phaseiv,documentation   The OpenVMS documentation site:t  &   http://www.openvms.digital.com:8000/%   http://www.openvms.digital.com/doc/t,   http://www.openvms.digital.com/commercial/  B currently only has online versions of the DECnet-Plus for OpenVMS  documentation.  < Could the Phase IV documentation be made available as well ?  K Having the Phase IV documentation would help to debug network connectivity e+ problems for sites not running DECnet-Plus.     4 --Jerry Leslie     (my opinions are strictly my own)   ------------------------------  % Date: Wed, 23 Aug 2000 07:19:46 -0500t) From: "John E. Malmberg" <wb8tyw@qsl.net>s& Subject: Re: DECNet Phase IV Manuals ?/ Message-ID: <sq7g6kt0t91132@corp.supernews.com>   1 "Jerry Leslie" <leslie@clio.rice.education> wrote -  in message news:8o0ehs$dke$1@joe.rice.edu...t! > The OpenVMS documentation site:h >y( >   http://www.openvms.digital.com:8000/' >   http://www.openvms.digital.com/doc/f. >   http://www.openvms.digital.com/commercial/ >aC > currently only has online versions of the DECnet-Plus for OpenVMSe > documentation. >s> > Could the Phase IV documentation be made available as well ? > L > Having the Phase IV documentation would help to debug network connectivity- > problems for sites not running DECnet-Plus.-  J If you can find a set, the Pathworks V4 manual set had a very good section# on troubleshooting DECnet Phase IV.v   -Johnu wb8tyw@qsl.network   ------------------------------  % Date: Wed, 23 Aug 2000 11:55:50 +00006$ From: Steve.Spires@yellowpages.co.uk  Subject: Re: FTP Progress in VMS/ Message-ID: <00256944.00414612.00@quegw01.btyp>d  = Contact:   Tel: 3063  -  VSSG, 1st Floor, Bridge Street Plazar  7  Which then led you to confuse Bradford with Ipswich...o   ;^Dt   Steve Spires VMS System Manager BT/Yellow Pageso        J "Chris Hewitt" <chris@malmsmead.freeserve.co.uk> on 22/08/2000 09:05:59 PM    To:        Info-VAX@Mvb.Saic.Com+ cc:         (bcc: Steve Spires/YellowPages)rL From:      "Chris Hewitt" <chris@malmsmead.freeserve.co.uk>, 22 August 2000,            9:05 p.m.   Re: FTP Progress in VMSh        L I apologise for my poor grammar and spelling. MUFC drawing with Bradford has" caused me to drink too much lager!   Chris   A "Chris Hewitt" <chris@malmsmead.freeserve.co.uk> wrote in messaget( news:8nupdv$55k$1@news6.svr.pol.co.uk... > Andy,R > G > If you have to use a WNT box to perform the "hash" command before youtH > commence the ftp. this will give you an indictaion as to the progress. >dI > Personally I agree with the other posters. You really should be ftp'ingy from > one node to anotherP >s	 > Cheers,u >s > Chris  >s >n4 > "Andy O" <oddster@totalise.co.uk> wrote in message% > news:39a25465$1@news.telinco.net...0L > > I would be very grateful if anyone could let me know how I can check the0 > > progress of an FTP process on open VMS v7.2. > >3K > > I am ftp'ing several oracle exports from one vms box to another using at > WinoL > > NT ftp session and need to find out how much has gone over (if any!!!!). > >y > > Thanks in advance, > >S > >( > > Andrew J Oddy  > > (PSS-UK Ltd) > >e > >u >a >n   ------------------------------  # Date: Wed, 23 Aug 2000 11:00:22 GMT = From: system@SendSpamHere.ORG (Brian Schenkenberger, VAXman-)a  Subject: Re: FTP Progress in VMS0 Message-ID: <009EF058.45182785@SendSpamHere.ORG>  \ In article <39a30223.24007210@news.wku.edu>, goathunter@goatley.com (Hunter Goatley) writes:A >On Tue, 22 Aug 2000 10:46:13 GMT, system@SendSpamHere.ORG (Briane  >Schenkenberger, VAXman-) wrote: >>G >>Another option is to turn on HASH marks in the FTP.  This will output F >>a '#' everytime 1024 bytes is sent/received.  This will not give youF >>any 'statistics' but it will reassure you that the transfer is still
 >>proceeding.C >>E >And if you were to go VMS to VMS and use MGFTP, you can press CTRL-AeD >to get stats on the transfer, including estimated time remaining...  C Of course, the original poster would likely FTP it using the NT box C and then we'd be answering questions about how to fix up the brokeno= file format and get it to VMS so it could be installed there.    --O VAXman- OpenVMS APE certification number: AAA-0001     VAXman(at)TMESIS(dot)COMg   ------------------------------  # Date: Wed, 23 Aug 2000 11:24:53 GMTi= From: system@SendSpamHere.ORG (Brian Schenkenberger, VAXman-) ; Subject: Re: Here we go again - WTB/T/etc source listing CDe0 Message-ID: <009EF05B.B1A36FC8@SendSpamHere.ORG>  g In article <eg7JRQYlYOn1@eisner.decus.org>, Kilgallen@eisner.decus.org.nospam (Larry Kilgallen) writes: L >In article <39A20914.EDB2D719@vrx.net>, Beyonder <beyonder@vrx.net> writes: >> Larry Kilgallen wrote:s >> fK >>> DEC software licenses generally do not allow transfer to a third party.-I >>> While you may have physical possession of some microfiche, I stronglyP? >>> doubt that you have a license by virtue of that possession.- >> -* >> Then you haven't been paying attention.I >> I never said I had a license by virtue of the possession of the fiche.i> >> I have a license for the source listings in another format.@ >> BTW: Compaq also confirms that my mere ownership of the ficheA >> means I have a legal license. I asked specifically about that.hM >> So as far as Compaq is concerned, I do indeed have a license for the fiche,, >> sets I own, regardless of how I got them. >tE >I hope you obtained those "Compaq" assurances from an officer of thecC >company.  Certainly a court of law would rule that nobody else waso, >empowered to override their written policy. >hQ >> and this talk about third-party transfers, does that cover all the stuff givenuI >> away at DECUS events? By your definition, all of those were handed outa
 >> illegally.g >gC >If it was given out directly by DEC/Compaq there is no third partyeF >involved.  But please be specific about this DECUS event where source >listings were given out.r  D Larry, at several DECUS events in the past, VMS source listings wereD given out as "prizes" at the "VMS Magic".  I know you attended theseE when they were scheduled as I could always count on one of your witty E heckler's remarks to rise above the clamour of the crowd.  These wereyE typically given the to group handling magic -- David Cathey and panel E of inebriated judges -- by DEC, and then given out based on the meriteG of one's presentation tabulated -- in hexadecimal ;) -- by the panel.   E Thus, a third-party transfer right before this large group of digitaleE customers, some who might actually have paid the asking price for ther source listings license. I  D I'm only presenting facts here.  I'm not offering any conclusions ofD legality behind the source listings license.  However, with far moreD blatant abuses of the source listings by a corporate entity going onC unpunished -- in essense, VMS code used in a third-party product toyD compete again DEC/Compaq -- I see little or no reason to believe theE exchange of what amounts to VMS documentation to be a capitol crime. 'D Of course, because one party is permitted to commit a felony withoutC recourse is no reason to believe that you or I or any other citizent' is free to commit misdemeanors at will.  --O VAXman- OpenVMS APE certification number: AAA-0001     VAXman(at)TMESIS(dot)COMs   ------------------------------    Date: 23 Aug 2000 12:20:53 -05009 From: Kilgallen@eisner.decus.org.nospam (Larry Kilgallen)e; Subject: Re: Here we go again - WTB/T/etc source listing CDc+ Message-ID: <zQtYz2VAztvX@eisner.decus.org>i  p In article <009EF05B.B1A36FC8@SendSpamHere.ORG>, system@SendSpamHere.ORG (Brian Schenkenberger, VAXman-) writes:i > In article <eg7JRQYlYOn1@eisner.decus.org>, Kilgallen@eisner.decus.org.nospam (Larry Kilgallen) writes:m  D >>If it was given out directly by DEC/Compaq there is no third partyG >>involved.  But please be specific about this DECUS event where source  >>listings were given out. > F > Larry, at several DECUS events in the past, VMS source listings wereF > given out as "prizes" at the "VMS Magic".  I know you attended theseG > when they were scheduled as I could always count on one of your wittyCG > heckler's remarks to rise above the clamour of the crowd.  These werefG > typically given the to group handling magic -- David Cathey and panelrG > of inebriated judges -- by DEC, and then given out based on the meritoI > of one's presentation tabulated -- in hexadecimal ;) -- by the panel.  sG > Thus, a third-party transfer right before this large group of digitaltG > customers, some who might actually have paid the asking price for the  > source listings license.    D I have not attended VMS Magic in recent years, but if a listings kitE was provided by DEC/COMPAQ for use by DECUS (a wholly owned entity oftC DEC/COMPAQ) as a prize, I am certain it would be judged not to have.C been from a third party.  This is even if David Cathey briefly heldC# the prize to hand it to the winner.l  ? There are two parties: DEC/Compaq and the winner.  David CatheyD? may be an excellent master of ceremonies, but he is not a party  to the transaction.l   ------------------------------  # Date: Wed, 23 Aug 2000 15:33:31 GMTs= From: system@SendSpamHere.ORG (Brian Schenkenberger, VAXman-)o; Subject: Re: Here we go again - WTB/T/etc source listing CDo0 Message-ID: <009EF07E.6D62CAB6@SendSpamHere.ORG>  g In article <zQtYz2VAztvX@eisner.decus.org>, Kilgallen@eisner.decus.org.nospam (Larry Kilgallen) writes:tq >In article <009EF05B.B1A36FC8@SendSpamHere.ORG>, system@SendSpamHere.ORG (Brian Schenkenberger, VAXman-) writes:0j >> In article <eg7JRQYlYOn1@eisner.decus.org>, Kilgallen@eisner.decus.org.nospam (Larry Kilgallen) writes: >tE >>>If it was given out directly by DEC/Compaq there is no third partytH >>>involved.  But please be specific about this DECUS event where source >>>listings were given out.u >> CG >> Larry, at several DECUS events in the past, VMS source listings wereaG >> given out as "prizes" at the "VMS Magic".  I know you attended these(H >> when they were scheduled as I could always count on one of your wittyH >> heckler's remarks to rise above the clamour of the crowd.  These wereH >> typically given the to group handling magic -- David Cathey and panelH >> of inebriated judges -- by DEC, and then given out based on the meritJ >> of one's presentation tabulated -- in hexadecimal ;) -- by the panel.  H >> Thus, a third-party transfer right before this large group of digitalH >> customers, some who might actually have paid the asking price for the >> source listings license.  >IE >I have not attended VMS Magic in recent years, but if a listings kitr  E I perhaps confused the session with that of the d|i|g|i|t|a|l listens  panel.  F >was provided by DEC/COMPAQ for use by DECUS (a wholly owned entity ofD >DEC/COMPAQ) as a prize, I am certain it would be judged not to haveD >been from a third party.  This is even if David Cathey briefly held$ >the prize to hand it to the winner. >b@ >There are two parties: DEC/Compaq and the winner.  David Cathey@ >may be an excellent master of ceremonies, but he is not a party >to the transaction.  D That is quite likely the case.  I believe what beyonder has clued inF to is the fact that these were handed out without the restrictive cov-( enent of the 'source license agreement'. --O VAXman- OpenVMS APE certification number: AAA-0001     VAXman(at)TMESIS(dot)COMm   ------------------------------  % Date: Wed, 23 Aug 2000 17:49:38 +1000V/ From: "Phil Howell" <phowell@snowyhydro.com.au> ' Subject: Re: HP8100 printer Clue needed 1 Message-ID: <KkLo5.5668$Vb.151523@ozemail.com.au>o  D I think your options are to use dcps or to learn all about hp escape	 sequences ) (i see you alrady have a reset_hp module)GL You can put hp escape codes in a setup module and insert it into your deviceD control library, then you need 2 form types eg. gf_landscape_8pt andI gf_landscape_8pt_11x17 with the code to select the 11x17 tray as an extrah! line in the relevant setup module  Phil: Terry Marosites <TMarosites@unitedad.com> wrote in messageG news:1137A4A23A51D311B2D600105A1D5213026FDF01@seantexch.unitedad.com...I	 > Hi all,f > H >     Looking for a clue on how to tell my HP LaserJet 8100N to user theI > 11X17 Tray . I don't have a problem from Win Dose. On My Alpha I have as > queue defined as >"? > Printer queue SEAIS8100, idle, on SEAALP::"10.100.5.25:9100", / > mounted form GF_PORTRAIT_10PT (stock=DEFAULT)-> >   /BASE_PRIORITY=4 /DEFAULT=(FEED,FLAG,FORM=GF_LANDSCAPE_8PT > (stock=DEFAULT))5 >   /LIBRARY=GOLDFAX_DEVCTL Lowercase /OWNER=[SYSTEM]  /PROCESSOR=UCX$TELNETSYM >C> >   /PROTECTION=(S:M,O:D,G:R,W:S) /SEPARATE=(RESET=(RESET_HP)) >aK > I can print to it in landscape and portrait. But I don't have any idea onaL > how to set it up to use another tray ( the 11X17 tray ). If anyone has setE > one of these up to use the alternate tray I would appreciate Clues.l >  > Stats:J > DIGITAL TCP/IP Services for OpenVMS Alpha Version V4.2  on a AlphaServer% > DS20 500 MHz running OpenVMS V7.1-2j >-   ------------------------------  # Date: Wed, 23 Aug 2000 06:17:10 GMT  From: ektevr@nurb.como Subject: I NEED YOUR HELP!7 Message-ID: <G%Jo5.11668$4f5.5554@telenews.teleline.es>.   My parents are going to lose their home if I cannot raise $1,000 by next week! I would appreciate if everyone could donate money to me by sending a donation through paypal to shocker1@nurb.com! If you could do this for me I would be so greatful! If you cant send me some money, atleast join up under shocker1@nurb.com at www.paypal.com and I'll get $5 for everyone who joins under me. Please help me save my family. If you do this I'll be eternally greatful and will return the favor once my family gets in bette P.S. If you send me any money through papyal, email me afterwards and when I get back on my feet I'll be glad to repay you what you lent me!   ------------------------------   Date: 23 Aug 2000 13:02:15 GMTF From: lederman@star.enet.dec.DISABLE-JUNK-EMAIL.com (Bart Z. Lederman): Subject: Re: Internal Record/Index Structure of RMS files?* Message-ID: <8o0i0n$dmd@usenet.pa.dec.com>  # >Message text written by Jim Jennis  >>Hi VMS Colleagues! >rI >I've got a bunch of fixed record length RMS prolog -3 indexed data files E >from a customer's VAX/VMS system that were created with Oracle/CDD & L >Datatrieve (aka DEC CDD). We do not have access to CDD or Datatrieve on ourK >Alpha's so I cannot see the record definition of the file. I'm looking forhG >a utility (other than writing my own C program to tear the files apartiL >record by record) that will show me the internal record structure and indexG >layout of the file, so that we can create data definitions for them ini >Oracle. >n( >Thanks in advance for your help/advice! >e  + Is the original system no longer available?   @ The best way to get the record layout would be to use Datatrieve> on the system where the files were created and use the EXTRACT= command to write out the record layout as an ASCII Text file,s which anybody can read.   ? (If the people running the original system were smart enough toM= document their work, they would already have a set of commandl> files created by EXTRACT in case anything ever went wrong withE the CDD and the data structures had to be re-defined.  Unfortunately,O= some people don't document or make backups of critical data.)      -- N(  B. Z. Lederman   Personal Opinions Only  8  Posting to a News group does NOT give anyone permission8  to send me advertising by E-mail or put me on a mailing  list of any kind.  5  Please remove the "DISABLE-JUNK-EMAIL" if you have a 5  legitimate reason to E-mail a response to this post.    ------------------------------  % Date: Wed, 23 Aug 2000 18:26:11 +0200 2 From: Alessandro Prete <ale@mail.polial.polito.it># Subject: LEDs & VAXStation 3100 M48e5 Message-ID: <39A3FB23.9BE6C58A@mail.polial.polito.it>    Hi,iB Does anybody know what is the meaning of the 8 LEDs placed  in the# rearward of a VAXStation 3100 M48 ?  Thanks !    Cheers,   Ale   E ----------------------------------------------------------------------C  http://www.polial.polito.it/cdc          ale@mail.polial.polito.it E ---------------------------------------------------------------------? Think MultiPlatform, Think FreeiE ---------------------------------------------------------------------u   ------------------------------  % Date: Wed, 23 Aug 2000 08:48:20 +0100e, From: Paul BEAUDOIN <paul.beaudoin@hsbc.com>" Subject: Memo:  DCL Docu procedureA Message-ID: <80256944.002ADCA3.00@emea-smtp-03.midlandbank.co.uk>t   Gents,  < I am looking for a procedure or programme that documents DCLE procedures by listing all the procedures, programmes etc. executed inyE a given chain of procedures. Would be an interesting program to write @ but no need to re-invent what may have been already done better.   Thanks   Paul      D ********************************************************************B  This message and any attachments are confidential to the ordinaryB  user of the e-mail address to which it was addressed and may also>  be privileged. If you are not the addressee you may not copy,8  forward, disclose or use any part of the message or itsC  attachments and if you have received this message in error, pleaseoB  notify the sender immediately by return e-mail and delete it from
  your system.n  =  Internet communications cannot be guaranteed to be secure ordA  error-free as information could be intercepted, corrupted, lost, >  arrive late or contain viruses. The sender therefore does not?  accept liability for any errors or omissions in the context oft?  this message which arise as a result of Internet transmission.o  gD  Any opinions contained in this message are those of the author and ?  are not given or endorsed by the HSBC Group company or office v=  through which this message is sent unless otherwise clearly eA  indicated in this message and the authority of the author to so 03  bind the HSBC entity referred to is duly verified.h  D ********************************************************************   ------------------------------  # Date: Wed, 23 Aug 2000 09:26:13 GMTa From: spolato@my-deja.com % Subject: Re: Memo: DCL Docu proceduref) Message-ID: <8o05b7$udv$1@nnrp1.deja.com>   A In article <80256944.002ADCA3.00@emea-smtp-03.midlandbank.co.uk>,s/   Paul BEAUDOIN <paul.beaudoin@hsbc.com> wrote:. >  >  > Gents, >i> > I am looking for a procedure or programme that documents DCLG > procedures by listing all the procedures, programmes etc. executed in G > a given chain of procedures. Would be an interesting program to writeeB > but no need to re-invent what may have been already done better. >u > Thanks >t > Paul >h= I think you could find very useful MenuFinder to document DCLeE procedures. That tool does not  build  automatically the structure ofhG your DCL procedures but allow you to build it manually and, after that,eE you can edit, print, associate instructions for use (help file), run,cC document or find them without to have to remember their file names.   A MenuFinder is completely free for any VAX and for one AXP system.e5 Have a look at : http://www.itre.com/mf/overview.html3  
 Sandro Polatog    & Sent via Deja.com http://www.deja.com/ Before you buy.    ------------------------------  # Date: Wed, 23 Aug 2000 15:40:08 GMTf From: teroconnor@my-deja.com( Subject: Pathworks - NT accounts problem) Message-ID: <8o0r8l$nib$1@nnrp1.deja.com>-  C We have a Pathworks v5.0f server on VMS 6.2-1h3. Windows95 and NTv4r& workstations can map to fileshares OK.F We have a WNTv4 server running a backup application and want to backupB fileshares from the Pathworks server. However when we try to map aD drive to the Pathworks fileshare from the NT server we get a messageG saying "an error occurred in network provider Microsoft Windows Networke1 error 2242:The password of this user has expired" E However the user account of the "servername" does not have an expiredt4 password when viewed from "User manager for domains"@ has anyone seen such an occurance - any ideas on resolving this.   Teri      & Sent via Deja.com http://www.deja.com/ Before you buy.c   ------------------------------  % Date: Wed, 23 Aug 2000 08:56:37 +0100e2 From: Chris Sharman <Chris.Sharman@CCAgroup.co.uk>4 Subject: Re: Recurrent LTdriver crash, Alpha VMS 7.1. Message-ID: <39A391C5.1FD16C2E@CCAgroup.co.uk>   Mark D. Jilson wrote:  > J > Do you have the ALPLAT02_071 patch kit installed?  This looks similar toG > a case where a 3rd party product that used LAT was sending an illegal-7 > LAT message.  The reference patch kit may apply here.m    Yes, installed June '98, thanks.   > Chris Sharman wrote: > >rB > > We've had our Alpha crash 3 times now, in as many months, withJ > > apparently identical causes. I guess I should have reported the first,> > > while 7.1 had support, but I waited to see if it recurred.D > > We're fairly up to date on patches, afaik, but running ucx4.2-2.I > > Here's some of the output from 'sho crash'. The problem appears to beo= > > that R9 contains zero, instead of the address of whateverp   ------------------------------  % Date: Wed, 23 Aug 2000 12:14:24 +0100 5 From: "Adrian Lumsden" <A.Lumsden@spamtrap.xdt.co.uk> ) Subject: Setting VT420 to 36 line displayv. Message-ID: <8o0bub$k2s$1@news8.svr.pol.co.uk>  3 I have been trying to set, with an escape sequence,l* a VT420 to display 36 lines on the screen.  % I found the DECSLPP sequence CSI Pn te) which I thought would do it. However thisa' seems to set the number of lines in thef' page memory and not the number of linesv on the physical screen.,  + I've found the sequence to set the physical . display to 80 columns but can't track one down
 for 36 lines.c   Any suggestions?  
 with regards,u   Adrian   --( Adrian Lumsden, XDT Computer Systems, UK" A dot Lumsden at xdt dot co dot uk   ------------------------------  % Date: Wed, 23 Aug 2000 09:08:12 -0300 1 From: "Boyle, Darren" <boyledj@bankofbermuda.com>,- Subject: RE: Setting VT420 to 36 line display K Message-ID: <9F664D538536D411BD3200508B6FF01A8AE912@bdant027.bda.bobda.com>v  K Why would you want to do that.  Isn't the VT420 a 24 line  terminal anyway,e* you'd just have stuff scrolling off of it. - Darren   > ----------: > From: 	Adrian Lumsden[SMTP:A.Lumsden@spamtrap.xdt.co.uk]+ > Sent: 	Wednesday, August 23, 2000 8:14 AMh > To: 	Info-VAX@Mvb.Saic.Com, > Subject: 	Setting VT420 to 36 line display > 5 > I have been trying to set, with an escape sequence, , > a VT420 to display 36 lines on the screen. > ' > I found the DECSLPP sequence CSI Pn tC+ > which I thought would do it. However thiso) > seems to set the number of lines in thea) > page memory and not the number of linest > on the physical screen.s > - > I've found the sequence to set the physical 0 > display to 80 columns but can't track one down > for 36 lines.s >  > Any suggestions? >  > with regards,n >  > Adrian >  > --* > Adrian Lumsden, XDT Computer Systems, UK$ > A dot Lumsden at xdt dot co dot uk >  >  >  >  >  >     F **********************************************************************C This message and any files transmitted with it are confidential and J may be privileged and/or subject to the provisions of privacy legislation.M They are intended solely for the use of the individual or entity to whom theymL are addressed. If the reader of this message is not the intended recipient, B please notify the sender immediately and then delete this message.I You are notified that reliance on, disclosure of, distribution or copying  of this message is prohibited.   Bank of Bermuda F **********************************************************************   ------------------------------  % Date: Wed, 23 Aug 2000 08:02:54 -0700D+ From: "Barry Treahy, Jr." <Treahy@mmaz.com>c- Subject: Re: Setting VT420 to 36 line display@( Message-ID: <39A3E79E.D4954598@mmaz.com>  H I flip from 24 to 48 lines often, but it has been a long time since I'veF had to do it on a VT420.  If I remember correctly, under the PF3 SETUPA you must set some of the global settings so that the screens wille4 automatically adjust based on the number of lines...   Barrys   Adrian Lumsden wrote:a  5 > I have been trying to set, with an escape sequence,i, > a VT420 to display 36 lines on the screen. >i' > I found the DECSLPP sequence CSI Pn te+ > which I thought would do it. However thisn) > seems to set the number of lines in thes) > page memory and not the number of linesr > on the physical screen.o >o- > I've found the sequence to set the physical 0 > display to 80 columns but can't track one down > for 36 lines.i >  > Any suggestions? >  > with regards,e >e > Adrian >y > --* > Adrian Lumsden, XDT Computer Systems, UK$ > A dot Lumsden at xdt dot co dot uk   --  ? Barry Treahy, Jr  *  Midwest Microwave  *  Vice President & CIO   A E-mail: Treahy@mmaz.com * Phone: 480/314-1320 * FAX: 480/661-7028c   ------------------------------  % Date: Wed, 23 Aug 2000 15:46:30 +0100U5 From: "Adrian Lumsden" <A.Lumsden@spamtrap.xdt.co.uk> - Subject: Re: Setting VT420 to 36 line displayn/ Message-ID: <8o0om3$af9$1@newsg3.svr.pol.co.uk>y  : Nope. The VT420 supports 24, 36 or 48 lines on the screen.7 You can even do two lots of 24 lines in a split screen,D dual session mode.  6 I want to drive the VT420 in 36 line mode because I am3 using it to provide the display for a VT28 emulator 7 that I am writing. The VT29 had 64 columns by 32 lines..  9 I want to be able to set the thing into 36 line mode from 4 software so that I can be sure that the display does6 NOT scroll off the top of the screen. These things are4 in use for monitoring production of steel. I've been7 in situations before where (well meaning) people monkey3+ around with the setup and "break" software.R  
 with regards,b   Adrian   --( Adrian Lumsden, XDT Computer Systems, UK" A dot Lumsden at xdt dot co dot uk      : Boyle, Darren <boyledj@bankofbermuda.com> wrote in messageE news:9F664D538536D411BD3200508B6FF01A8AE912@bdant027.bda.bobda.com...aE > Why would you want to do that.  Isn't the VT420 a 24 line  terminalv anyway, , > you'd just have stuff scrolling off of it.
 > - Darren >c > > ----------; > > From: Adrian Lumsden[SMTP:A.Lumsden@spamtrap.xdt.co.uk]t, > > Sent: Wednesday, August 23, 2000 8:14 AM > > To: Info-VAX@Mvb.Saic.Como- > > Subject: Setting VT420 to 36 line displaye > >o7 > > I have been trying to set, with an escape sequence,r. > > a VT420 to display 36 lines on the screen. > >n) > > I found the DECSLPP sequence CSI Pn tu- > > which I thought would do it. However thist+ > > seems to set the number of lines in the.+ > > page memory and not the number of lineso > > on the physical screen.l > >c/ > > I've found the sequence to set the physicals2 > > display to 80 columns but can't track one down > > for 36 lines.d > >S > > Any suggestions? > >  > > with regards,  > >e
 > > Adrian > >e > > --, > > Adrian Lumsden, XDT Computer Systems, UK& > > A dot Lumsden at xdt dot co dot uk > >D > >( > >l > >n > >t > >f >D >CH > **********************************************************************E > This message and any files transmitted with it are confidential andt? > may be privileged and/or subject to the provisions of privacya legislation.E > They are intended solely for the use of the individual or entity tot	 whom theytB > are addressed. If the reader of this message is not the intended
 recipient,D > please notify the sender immediately and then delete this message.C > You are notified that reliance on, disclosure of, distribution orp copying   > of this message is prohibited. >X > Bank of BermudaOH > ********************************************************************** >V   ------------------------------  % Date: Wed, 23 Aug 2000 11:12:30 -0400n2 From: rdeininger@mindspring.com (Robert Deininger)- Subject: Re: Setting VT420 to 36 line display L Message-ID: <rdeininger-2308001112310001@user-2ivea6u.dialup.mindspring.com>  f In article <8o0om3$af9$1@newsg3.svr.pol.co.uk>, "Adrian Lumsden" <A.Lumsden@spamtrap.xdt.co.uk> wrote:  ; > I want to be able to set the thing into 36 line mode fromf6 > software so that I can be sure that the display does8 > NOT scroll off the top of the screen. These things are6 > in use for monitoring production of steel. I've been9 > in situations before where (well meaning) people monkeyc- > around with the setup and "break" software.n >   @ Does SET TERM/PAGE=36 change the terminal characteristics by anyE chance?  If so, you can set the terminal to display control sequencesu$ and capture whatever VMS is sending.   -- i Robert Deininger rdeininger@mindspring.come   ------------------------------  % Date: Wed, 23 Aug 2000 08:28:37 -0700E* From: Tad Winters <Tad_Winters@corvel.com>- Subject: Re: Setting VT420 to 36 line displayN2 Message-ID: <88256944.0054D878.00@mail.corvel.com>  & I think the sequences in question are: CSI Pn t anda
 CSI Pn * |O where Pn is the number of lines and CSI has an ASCII value of 155 and the finali1 character in the last sequence is a vertical bar.o       To:   Info-VAX@Mvb.Saic.Come& cc:    (bcc: Tad Winters/Admin/CorVel) Fax to: . Subject:  Re: Setting VT420 to 36 line display      H I flip from 24 to 48 lines often, but it has been a long time since I'veF had to do it on a VT420.  If I remember correctly, under the PF3 SETUPA you must set some of the global settings so that the screens willD4 automatically adjust based on the number of lines...   Barrye   Adrian Lumsden wrote:   5 > I have been trying to set, with an escape sequence, , > a VT420 to display 36 lines on the screen. > ' > I found the DECSLPP sequence CSI Pn tc+ > which I thought would do it. However this ) > seems to set the number of lines in thet) > page memory and not the number of linesw > on the physical screen.  > - > I've found the sequence to set the physicale0 > display to 80 columns but can't track one down > for 36 lines.r >h > Any suggestions? >g > with regards,. >  > Adrian >n > --* > Adrian Lumsden, XDT Computer Systems, UK$ > A dot Lumsden at xdt dot co dot uk   --  ? Barry Treahy, Jr  *  Midwest Microwave  *  Vice President & CIO   A E-mail: Treahy@mmaz.com * Phone: 480/314-1320 * FAX: 480/661-7028M   ------------------------------   Date: 23 Aug 2000 15:43:44 GMT2 From: hoffman@xdelta.zko.dec.nospam (Hoff Hoffman)- Subject: Re: Setting VT420 to 36 line displayi6 Message-ID: <8o0rfg$7es$3@mailint03.im.hou.compaq.com>  f In article <8o0bub$k2s$1@news8.svr.pol.co.uk>, "Adrian Lumsden" <A.Lumsden@spamtrap.xdt.co.uk> writes:4 :I have been trying to set, with an escape sequence,+ :a VT420 to display 36 lines on the screen.a  H   The VT420 series provides 24 (or 25, counting the status line) lines, <   with a selectable column width of 80 or of 132 characters.  @   Terminal emulators, such as DECterm, can provide 36 lines -- I5   quite regularly use 40 or 48 line DECterm displays.r  & :I found the DECSLPP sequence CSI Pn t :which I thought would do it.y  >   DECSLPP controls the length of the pages of memory, of which?   24 lines and 80 or 132 columns are displayed at any one time.r  >   You can scroll or pan the 24x80 or 24x132 visible portion of:   the physical display through the configured page memory.  N  --------------------------- pure personal opinion ---------------------------L    Hoff (Stephen) Hoffman   OpenVMS Engineering   hoffman#xdelta.zko.dec.com   ------------------------------   Date: 23 Aug 2000 16:11:34 GMT0 From: "Dale A. Dellutri" <ddellutr@enteract.com>- Subject: Re: Setting VT420 to 36 line displaye, Message-ID: <8o0t3m$96q$1@news.enteract.com>  P On 23 Aug 2000 15:43:44 GMT, Hoff Hoffman <hoffman@xdelta.zko.dec.nospam> wrote:h > In article <8o0bub$k2s$1@news8.svr.pol.co.uk>, "Adrian Lumsden" <A.Lumsden@spamtrap.xdt.co.uk> writes:6 > :I have been trying to set, with an escape sequence,- > :a VT420 to display 36 lines on the screen.tJ >   The VT420 series provides 24 (or 25, counting the status line) lines, > >   with a selectable column width of 80 or of 132 characters.  3 My VT420 manual (EK-VT420-UU-001) says on page 104:6E   "You can display 24, 25, 36, or 48 lines of information at one timen    on the screen."E and then goes on to tell how to do it from the Display Set-Up screen.,? Unfortunately, I don't have the full VT420 Programmer Reference-: Manual, so I can't say how to do it from the host program.   -- l& Dale Dellutri -- ddellutr@enteract.com   ------------------------------  # Date: Wed, 23 Aug 2000 16:13:56 GMTT8 From: Veli =?iso-8859-1?Q?K=F6rkk=F6?= <korkko@decus.fi>- Subject: Re: Setting VT420 to 36 line display-( Message-ID: <39A3ED21.8D2FD565@decus.fi>  C You can setup your VT420 to display 48 lines. And then you can have:A a single 48 line session or two 24 line sessions on that physical3? 48 line display. I setup my VT420 to 48 line session on 48 line ? display just about all the time because I like to see more infod there.   _velie   "Boyle, Darren" wrote: > M > Why would you want to do that.  Isn't the VT420 a 24 line  terminal anyway,n, > you'd just have stuff scrolling off of it.
 > - Darren >  > > ----------C > > From:         Adrian Lumsden[SMTP:A.Lumsden@spamtrap.xdt.co.uk]e4 > > Sent:         Wednesday, August 23, 2000 8:14 AM > > To:   Info-VAX@Mvb.Saic.Com 2 > > Subject:      Setting VT420 to 36 line display > >f7 > > I have been trying to set, with an escape sequence,i. > > a VT420 to display 36 lines on the screen. > >m) > > I found the DECSLPP sequence CSI Pn ti- > > which I thought would do it. However thisy+ > > seems to set the number of lines in they+ > > page memory and not the number of linesg > > on the physical screen.e > >f/ > > I've found the sequence to set the physicald2 > > display to 80 columns but can't track one down > > for 36 lines.t > >c > > Any suggestions? > >s > > with regards,e > >e
 > > Adrian > >s > > --, > > Adrian Lumsden, XDT Computer Systems, UK& > > A dot Lumsden at xdt dot co dot uk > >  > >h > >f > >a > >  > >  > H > **********************************************************************E > This message and any files transmitted with it are confidential andmL > may be privileged and/or subject to the provisions of privacy legislation.O > They are intended solely for the use of the individual or entity to whom they*M > are addressed. If the reader of this message is not the intended recipient,1D > please notify the sender immediately and then delete this message.K > You are notified that reliance on, disclosure of, distribution or copyingD  > of this message is prohibited. >  > Bank of Bermuda H > **********************************************************************   ------------------------------  % Date: Wed, 23 Aug 2000 11:08:55 -0400h* From: David A Froble <davef@tsoft-inc.com>- Subject: Re: Setting VT420 to 36 line displayr- Message-ID: <39A3E907.B9E189D3@tsoft-inc.com>n   "Boyle, Darren" wrote: > M > Why would you want to do that.  Isn't the VT420 a 24 line  terminal anyway,l, > you'd just have stuff scrolling off of it.
 > - Darren  O The VT-420 can have the lines displayed on the screen set to 24, 36, or 48.  ItiN can also display 2 sessions on the screen at the same time.  Setting the linesM per screen to 48, and splitting the screen into 2 sessions allows you to viewiN the full 24 line screen of each session.  Setting the width of each session to' 132 columns can also be done I believe.m  4 I've seen it.  My eyes were permanently damaged. :-)   Dave   -- d4 David Froble                       Tel: 724-529-04504 Dave Froble Enterprises, Inc.      Fax: 724-529-0596> DFE Ultralights, Inc.              E-Mail: davef@tsoft-inc.com6 T-Soft, Inc.  170 Grimplin Road  Vanderbilt, PA  15486   ------------------------------  % Date: Wed, 23 Aug 2000 16:56:52 +0100c5 From: "Adrian Lumsden" <A.Lumsden@spamtrap.xdt.co.uk>g9 Subject: Re: Setting VT420 to 36 line display - Found it.h. Message-ID: <8o0se0$l1j$1@news7.svr.pol.co.uk>  1 Belay the request. I've found DECSNLS (CSI Pn *|) 0 which sets the no. of lines per physical screen.  1 Following another suggestion I've also found thatT1 setting "Auto Resize Screen" to on in the Display , Set-Up allows the DECSLPP sequence to result/ in the lines on the screen changing to 36 also.a   regards,   Adrian   --( Adrian Lumsden, XDT Computer Systems, UK" A dot Lumsden at xdt dot co dot uk      > Adrian Lumsden <A.Lumsden@spamtrap.xdt.co.uk> wrote in message( news:8o0bub$k2s$1@news8.svr.pol.co.uk...5 > I have been trying to set, with an escape sequence,u, > a VT420 to display 36 lines on the screen. >A' > I found the DECSLPP sequence CSI Pn tC+ > which I thought would do it. However this ) > seems to set the number of lines in thet) > page memory and not the number of linese > on the physical screen.t > - > I've found the sequence to set the physical.0 > display to 80 columns but can't track one down > for 36 lines.9 >t > Any suggestions? >a > with regards,  >e > Adrian >l > --* > Adrian Lumsden, XDT Computer Systems, UK$ > A dot Lumsden at xdt dot co dot uk >s >l >a >r >r   ------------------------------  % Date: Wed, 23 Aug 2000 09:32:35 -0400e# From: Jim Agnew <agnew@hsc.vcu.edu>t* Subject: Re: Sony MO on VAXstation 4000/60+ Message-ID: <39A3D273.7C6664CA@hsc.vcu.edu>r   not on a storageworks device, the id is set by the backplane.. otherwise, if you have dip switches on the drive, yes...  that's why 5 i had to go that route...  but they were freebies!!! s   David A Froble wrote:  >  > Jim Agnew wrote: > >lt > > one can configure the scsi id of the controller, so you can have 7 devices instead of 6.  adds one more disk!!!! > >2< > > j.  i forgot exactly what the command was, but it may be > >e > > SET SCSIA 7 andh > > ! > > SET SCSIB 7  for the b bus...o > L > About right, I'm too lazy to actually go to a system and check the syntax. > Q > However, if the system SCSI ID is other than 7, then DKA700 is a valid ID for anE > disk.  There seems to be the implication above that cannot be done.r >  > Dave >  > --6 > David Froble                       Tel: 724-529-04506 > Dave Froble Enterprises, Inc.      Fax: 724-529-0596@ > DFE Ultralights, Inc.              E-Mail: davef@tsoft-inc.com8 > T-Soft, Inc.  170 Grimplin Road  Vanderbilt, PA  15486   ------------------------------  % Date: Wed, 23 Aug 2000 10:36:55 +0200d From: "Wim" <wim@rdc.nl> Subject: system info* Message-ID: <8o02fj$nsb$1@news1.xs4all.nl>  L Does anyone know if there is a dcl procedure that if you run it will displayI a lot of system info, like how many disks there are in the system, and ifeJ they are mounted, and what will display the memory, and what will retrieve< all the versions of the software who are installed, etc etc.F I know it can be done through DCL, but I was wondering if someone made something like that allready?eG I cant program, if you have something like that would you be so kind too email it to me.f) any com file or exe would be appreciated.u   Many thanks in advance   Wim    ------------------------------   Date: 23 Aug 2000 15:35:45 GMT2 From: hoffman@xdelta.zko.dec.nospam (Hoff Hoffman) Subject: Re: system info6 Message-ID: <8o0r0h$7es$2@mailint03.im.hou.compaq.com>  E In article <8o02fj$nsb$1@news1.xs4all.nl>, "Wim" <wim@rdc.nl> writes:oM :Does anyone know if there is a dcl procedure that if you run it will display*J :a lot of system info, like how many disks there are in the system, and ifK :they are mounted, and what will display the memory, and what will retrievev= :all the versions of the software who are installed, etc etc.n  F   Some of this is trivial, and some of this (what's installed and what>   versions of it, in particular) can be very product-specific.  G :I know it can be done through DCL, but I was wondering if someone made, :something like that allready?  D   The Compaq Services folks have a service offering in this area, a 5   package that can perform this system audit for you.*  N  --------------------------- pure personal opinion ---------------------------L    Hoff (Stephen) Hoffman   OpenVMS Engineering   hoffman#xdelta.zko.dec.com   ------------------------------  % Date: Wed, 23 Aug 2000 14:05:22 +0200tB From: "Softwaregroep TB/GA Gasunie" <e.g.van.der.velde@gasunie.nl> Subject: VMS and NFS, Message-ID: <8o0eh1$4ne$1@porthos.nl.uu.net>   Hello,  # I have a question about VMS an NFS.rI I have an NT-server as an NFS server. VMS is acting as a NFS client using  the UCX services.o5 Everything seems to work ok but I would like to know:u  K Why does it take so long to see changes to the NFS directory done under NT? J (For example deleting a file) Is there someway I can make this quicker? It8 now takes minutes, there must be some way to tweak this.  K How can I determine if the NFS disk is available. Suppose I now shut the NToH server down and I do a "dir <NFS directory>" then theere is no response.@ Even the prompt doesn't come back. Is there anyway to test this?  K Thanks in advance for the help. If you want more specific information or iftF you got a hint then you can email me at j.j.c.van.der.veeke@gasunie.nl   Hans van der Veeke Gasunie Groningena   ------------------------------  % Date: Wed, 23 Aug 2000 01:59:24 -0400-* From: David A Froble <davef@tsoft-inc.com>. Subject: Re: VMS as real time operating system- Message-ID: <39A3683C.F1878468@tsoft-inc.com>l   JF Mezei wrote:g > ) > I got to think. (happens some times :-)o > J > CAE, one of the principal makers of flight simulators, used to based itsP > systems on VMS. Wouldn't that be an indication that VMS was well suited to run > avionic systems ?a  N Well, when the simulator breaks down, you get out and call the techs.  When anJ avionics system fails, it could be a life and death matter, IFR in a nasty+ storm, no visibility, fun things like that.c  O I believe this topic has had some interesting posts.  The most interesting fromsO my perspective was Steve's observation that the systems on the shuttle could bewK considered intellegent controllers instead of computers, but I guess that'seO based upon what you want to call them, since an intellegent controller seems to O be a computer also.  What I saw in the statement was that the 'controllers' had O a specific task or tasks, and are dedicated to that, but you could still have acM general purpose system that while itself not real-time, assigned the realtime O tasks to the 'controllers', gathered their data, etc, and VMS probably would be-K an execellant choice for this task.  What would be important would be stand & alone capability of the 'controllers'.   Dave   -- b4 David Froble                       Tel: 724-529-04504 Dave Froble Enterprises, Inc.      Fax: 724-529-0596> DFE Ultralights, Inc.              E-Mail: davef@tsoft-inc.com6 T-Soft, Inc.  170 Grimplin Road  Vanderbilt, PA  15486   ------------------------------  % Date: Wed, 23 Aug 2000 12:26:54 +0100n/ From: Nigel Arnot <sysmgr@maxwell.ph.kcl.ac.uk> . Subject: Re: VMS as real time operating system7 Message-ID: <009EF085.E2DAB1E4.19@maxwell.ph.kcl.ac.uk>    >  > Dirk Munk wrote: > > K > > I know that VMS systems are/were used on Dutch frigates, and if I'm notsG > > mistaken the F16 fighter had/has a Vax system (don't know which OS)e  E I can't help speculating that a VMScluster would be an extremely good L choice for military operations systems: a disaster-tolerant configuration isG also a battlefield-damage-tolerant system. If the enemy hit one of youreK nodes, things would be 100% back to normal within a few seconds. If you had I triplicated nodes, it would take a hit on all three to shut you down for nK good. Not easy. Further obvious speculation is whether you can successfullyhG run a VMScluster distributed over moving vehicles linked by (microwave?e, laser?) comms under battlefield conditions.   3 Anyone out there know about this and free to tell?     	Yours,s
 		Nigel Arnote- 		NRA@MAXWELL.PH.KCL.AC.UK                   *  7 		"In the beginning there was nothing, which exploded."    ------------------------------  % Date: Wed, 23 Aug 2000 13:08:59 +0000r$ From: Steve.Spires@yellowpages.co.uk. Subject: Re: VMS as real time operating system/ Message-ID: <00256944.0047F82B.00@quegw01.btyp>0  = Contact:   Tel: 3063  -  VSSG, 1st Floor, Bridge Street Plaza1    M I can't/won't say too much, but Royal Navy ships have been known to sail with M VMS systems on board, and of course at one time (don't know how the situationIP has changed over the last four or five years) most, if not all, of the work DERA4 carried out in the areas I was involved in used VMS.  N And of course during my time in South Africa (pre-DEC having a presence there)> ARMSCOR used VMS clones (mostly 11/785s with VMS 4.6 and 4.7).   Steve Spires VMS System Manager BT/Yellow Pagese        C Nigel Arnot <sysmgr@maxwell.ph.kcl.ac.uk> on 23/08/2000 11:26:54 AM     To:        Info-VAX@Mvb.Saic.Com+ cc:         (bcc: Steve Spires/YellowPages) P From:      Nigel Arnot <sysmgr@maxwell.ph.kcl.ac.uk>, 23 August 2000, 11:26 a.m.  % Re: VMS as real time operating systemc         >i > Dirk Munk wrote: > >aK > > I know that VMS systems are/were used on Dutch frigates, and if I'm noteG > > mistaken the F16 fighter had/has a Vax system (don't know which OS)   E I can't help speculating that a VMScluster would be an extremely goodlL choice for military operations systems: a disaster-tolerant configuration isG also a battlefield-damage-tolerant system. If the enemy hit one of your3K nodes, things would be 100% back to normal within a few seconds. If you hadgH triplicated nodes, it would take a hit on all three to shut you down forK good. Not easy. Further obvious speculation is whether you can successfullywG run a VMScluster distributed over moving vehicles linked by (microwave?d+ laser?) comms under battlefield conditions.t  2 Anyone out there know about this and free to tell?        Yours,e           Nigel Arnot "           NRA@MAXWELL.PH.KCL.AC.UK  ?           "In the beginning there was nothing, which exploded."    ------------------------------   Date: 23 Aug 2000 15:31:36 GMT2 From: hoffman@xdelta.zko.dec.nospam (Hoff Hoffman). Subject: Re: VMS as real time operating system6 Message-ID: <8o0qoo$7es$1@mailint03.im.hou.compaq.com>  \ In article <39A34FED.E044CDA5@videotron.ca>, JF Mezei <jfmezei.spamnot@videotron.ca> writes:I :CAE, one of the principal makers of flight simulators, used to based itseO :systems on VMS. Wouldn't that be an indication that VMS was well suited to run4 :avionic systems ?  !   That would be a non-sequitur.  -  K   To put this in terms of an OpenVMS software construct, you are comparing  M   what is involved with the creation and operation of a pseudo-device driver eF   with that involved in a physical device driver -- dealing with real I   hardware is a whole lot more involved and a whole lot more interesting  F   than dealing solely with software and with software-driven displays.  H   A case could probably be made that a flight simulator and an avionics F   package are providing roughly comparable features in the area of theK   cockpit.  But from the perspective of what the rest of what the avionics  K   does for the aircraft, the two are quite different.  All modern military PK   aircraft are fly-by-wire, meaning the computer is accepting input from a lK   wide variety of sensors throughout the aircraft, and obviously receiving dK   pilot input from and synthesizing output displays for the cockpit -- the iJ   computer (intelligent controller might be a more appropriate term) then G   uses this to manufacture a level of flight stability for the pilot, a-H   level of stability that is deliberately not inherent in design of the    airframe itself.  G   Yes, a simulator has to simulate (hopefully) all of the controls, butDG   the flight control system actually has to deal with the real controlsiH   and the real sensors and the real hardware (and with the very obvious I   potential for real hardware failures).  And the avionics have to do it e=   all correctly, and within the limits of the hard real-time.n  H   That a particular system is a good choice for a flight simulator does G   not imply (nor, of course, does it deny) that the system can also be e'   the basis of a flight control system.t   	--)  I   Why do I have a mental picture of an AlphaServer doing a "grunt" duringy   a high-G turn? :-)  N  --------------------------- pure personal opinion ---------------------------L    Hoff (Stephen) Hoffman   OpenVMS Engineering   hoffman#xdelta.zko.dec.com   ------------------------------  # Date: Wed, 23 Aug 2000 16:55:09 GMT4 From: trevor_deja@my-deja.comlF Subject: Re: VMS at home, ISDN, router, Linux, static IP addresses,...) Message-ID: <8o0vl2$taf$1@nnrp1.deja.com>-  . In article <8ns8e1$hto$1@info.service.rug.nl>,   helbig@astro.rug.nl wrote:B > FINALLY I will be setting up my VMS stuff at home soon (next few weeks).iD > The scenario I have followed up until now involved an ISDN router, whichtD > is quite expensive.  The idea is to get an ISP to give me a few IPE > addresses and enter some names in his DNS.  He doesn't have to careT whatH > is behind this ISDN router.  My VMS machines don't care if they are on atH > permanent connection, or a virtual permanent connection (i.e. dial-outH > AND dial-in on demand).  The IP addresses will be permanent, I can run) > my own DNS server for my own stuff etc.  > C > Unexpectedly, I find myself with a PC not being used for anythingu else.pE > IIRC, someone mentioned that I could use a Linux box instead of theMG > ISDN router.  I would intuitively prefer the latter, but now it looks " > like the former will be cheaper. >iF > How easy is this, assuming a "standard" linux installation is up andH > running?  Should I worry about security?  Presumably, a VMS box cannot > do what the linux box does.t >y >   
 Hi Phillip  H I have an Internet connected VMS setup at home (UK) using a NAT package,B which provides multiple machine access without any special network equipment/adaptors.   @ The ISP I use is Demon Internet.  Their standard dial up accountG provides one fixed IP address, and access via the SLIP or PPP protocol.   G I connect to the ISP using a modem connected to a serial line of a VAX, F running VMS (The Gateway VAX).  The Gateway VAX is also connected to aE number of other machines via a Private Ethernet LAN, using private IPm addresses (192.168.1.X).  B I have written a NAT (Network Address Translation) package for theG Gateway VAX and this allows the machines on the Private LAN transparentf/ access through the Gateway VAX to the Internet.e  D From the Private LAN any computer can access the Internet.  From theH Internet however, only the Gateway VAX can be accessed (which is the wayF I prefer it).  You might consider this a drawback, however once loggedC in to the Gateway VAX from the Internet the other machines would be G accessible via Telnet, DECNET etc.  The Gateway VAX also acts as a Mail*+ Server for the machines on the Private LAN.e  B Multiple machines on the Private LAN can simultaneously access theH Internet, but the real advantage is not so much the simultaneous access,H but more that any machine I go to on the LAN can connect to the InternetE straight away without any faffing around changing cables, adaptors or 	 software.t  C I've been running this NAT package for over a year now.  It has itsiE limitations, but it works fine for me.  If you'd like to use this NATsF package, and are prepared to be the first Guinea Pig to try it outsideH my house, I'll make it available.  It only works with VAX UCX, I'm usingF it with V4.2 but it should work with any V4.X  If some kind soul wouldE like to donate an old Alpha to a hardworking Hobbyist I'll port it to 
 Alpha UCX.  A I don't know of any other NAT package for VMS, but as others have F suggested there are a number of little boxes you can buy which combineF media interface (modem or ISDN) and a NAT capability.  A dedicated boxG will probably give you better performance, but will cost you something.-  H One benifit of keeping the NAT function and the media interface seperateF is that if you change to a different media later on, e.g. cable modem,G you don't need buy another NAT box.  Plus which I think it's kinda neat  to do the NAT in the VAX.   E My only grumbles with my set up are all centred around the VAX serialnC line.  The maximum baud rate I can get is 38400bits/sec on a CXY08.eD When multiple machines on the Private LAN are accessing the InternetC this can seem a bit pedestrian.  Also the only serial line protocoliH available in VAX UCX is SLIP (No PPP), and this dramatically reduces theC choice of available ISP's in the UK (in particular the cheap ones).t  ? To improve things I'm currently investigating a permanent cableeH connection.  The cable operator Telewest has made available its hi speedG internet connection in my area (and elsewhere) at a reasonable cost.  IhC hope I may be able to connect my Gateway VAX via this service.  TheiG cable modem provided will connect to the Gateway VAX via 10baseT, and IeF will continue to run NAT on the Gateway VAX to provide Internet access= for the machines on the Private LAN, but this is way off yet.    Regards, Trevor    trevor_deja@my-deja.comn    & Sent via Deja.com http://www.deja.com/ Before you buy.o   ------------------------------  % Date: Wed, 23 Aug 2000 09:40:21 +0200-" From: jean@ducommun.ch (JDucommun)" Subject: VMS Backup on Linux or NT2 Message-ID: <jean-2308000940210001@194.209.63.151>   hello,  H We are using an OpenVMS v6.2 since a long time, but we will sitch it off6 soon, because the aplication we run on it is to old...  J But I want to be sure that we can access our old datas, stored on DAT with the Backup command of VMS.  J Does anybody know about a program/utility zhat run on x86 Linux or NT that/ is able to handle such tapes and storage sets ?d  % Any help will be greatly appreciate !!  
 Jean Ducommun    ------------------------------  % Date: Wed, 23 Aug 2000 12:43:50 +0100   From: davep <davep@hmgcc.gov.uk>& Subject: Re: VMS Backup on Linux or NT( Message-ID: <39A3B8F6.6C8C@hmgcc.gov.uk>   JDucommun wrote: >  > hello, > J > We are using an OpenVMS v6.2 since a long time, but we will sitch it off8 > soon, because the aplication we run on it is to old... > L > But I want to be sure that we can access our old datas, stored on DAT with > the Backup command of VMS. > L > Does anybody know about a program/utility zhat run on x86 Linux or NT that1 > is able to handle such tapes and storage sets ?l > ' > Any help will be greatly appreciate !-  H Unfortunately the Linux utility (included with recent RedHat distros) isB very out-of-date and won't read modern save sets. However your VMSF version is also very old so you *might* be lucky. I'm not aware of any& free software to read VMS tapes on NT.  / There is a pay-for software solution available.d  G We have been copying data from VMS tapes to NT using PathWorks for somesH months and will finally complete the task at the end of the week. An oldE VAXstation will be retained in case the NT tapes turn out unreadable.y   Dave   ------------------------------  # Date: Wed, 23 Aug 2000 12:28:29 GMTi! From: Matt Morley <matt@mpcm.org>o& Subject: Re: VMS Backup on Linux or NT( Message-ID: <39A3C56A.11DE611D@mpcm.org>  G FreeBSD has a VMS backup emulator in it's ports collection. Not sure ifa it would be of any use to you.     JDucommun wrote: >  > hello, > J > We are using an OpenVMS v6.2 since a long time, but we will sitch it off8 > soon, because the aplication we run on it is to old... > L > But I want to be sure that we can access our old datas, stored on DAT with > the Backup command of VMS. > L > Does anybody know about a program/utility zhat run on x86 Linux or NT that1 > is able to handle such tapes and storage sets ?n > ' > Any help will be greatly appreciate !a >  > Jean Ducommunw   --
 Sincerely, Matt Morley  c/o MPCM Graphicsi   http://www.MPCMGraphics.comiD Developing and implementing custom web based solutions to solve your	 problems.    ------------------------------  % Date: Wed, 23 Aug 2000 10:47:50 +0100e* From: "Richard Brodie" <R.Brodie@rl.ac.uk>& Subject: Re: VMS Fortran help required, Message-ID: <8o06kc$1bb4@newton.cc.rl.ac.uk>  b <paddy.o'brien@zzz.tg.nsw.gov.au> wrote in message news:01JTB33Y1WWY003C7Z@tgmail.tg.nsw.gov.au...  O > Although I note that Adrian did say that he is on VAX, I thought I might just0  > mention that this is VAX only.  # I don't run any VAXes these days :)u   ------------------------------  % Date: Wed, 23 Aug 2000 11:40:41 +0100 / From: Nigel Arnot <sysmgr@maxwell.ph.kcl.ac.uk> & Subject: re: VMS Fortran help required7 Message-ID: <009EF07F.6D9A8789.18@maxwell.ph.kcl.ac.uk>s  J > Anyway, I am trying to learn Fortran for a one-off project and have come > across) > a problem that I just don't understand.a > J > Consider the following code: (read.lis is the listing produced with /LIS >  > qualifier. File=READ.FOR)t >  >         integer*4       stat >         character*256   inrecs > A >         open (unit=1,file='read.lis',status='old', iostat=stat, A >      1          organization='sequential', access='sequential', < >      2          recordtype='variable', form='unformatted', >      3          readonly)o  K unformatted is really for binary data (typically either fixed-length recordlH files, or the segmented-variable-length ones generated by FORTRAN if youH write unformatted with no fancy OPEN options. So I'd suggest change thisK to form='formatted', which is appropriate for any sort of file that a human3 can read when you TYPE it. m > 5 > 5       read (unit=1, iostat=stat, end=9000), inrec   D At this point you have two options. The standard FORTRAN one is just  . 	  read (1, '(A)' iostat=stat, end=9000) inrec  K which will space-pad the input line to the length of inrec if the record islM shorter, and truncate without error if it's longer. The VMS fortran extensiono is8 	  read ( 1, '(Q,A)', iostat=stat, end=9000) nrec, inrec  G which additionally returns the length of the record in nrec, so you canpA subsequently check for truncation (nrec .gt. len(inrec) ) and forpC zero-length records (nrec .eq. 0) and if the tests are OK  process uE inrec(1:nrec) without wasting time or space in an output file with a gD lot of trailing spaces. (language note: inrec(1:0) is an error not aD null string. FORTRAN doesn't have null strings, a single space is asC close as it gets. Its string facilities are merely adequate: if yourE want to hack character strings exclusively, AWK and PERL are better).m  D BTW if you haven't seen '(A)' before, it's a character-string FORMATB which I'm not absolutely certain is standard FORTRAN. The commoner form isl 	read(1, 9000) inrec 9000	format(A)  G but for simple formats, I always prefer one line of code and no labels.e     	Yours,i
 		Nigel Arnot - 		NRA@MAXWELL.PH.KCL.AC.UK                   n  7 		"In the beginning there was nothing, which exploded."c   ------------------------------  % Date: Wed, 23 Aug 2000 09:02:42 -0400 , From: Steve Lionel <Steve.Lionel@compaq.com>& Subject: Re: VMS Fortran help required8 Message-ID: <ioi7qssjee6kcgcr6qvno6djtaari6bupv@4ax.com>  C On Wed, 23 Aug 2000 11:19:43 +0010, paddy.o'brien@zzz.tg.nsw.gov.auF wrote:   >>Online HELP is your friend. ' >>HELP FORTRAN ERROR RUN_TIME INPSTAREQt >>6 >>An unformatted READ statement attempted to read more- >>data than existed in the record being read.x >sO >Although I note that Adrian did say that he is on VAX, I thought I might just   >mention that this is VAX only.l >rN >Steve, can your documentation people include this in your next Alpha upgrade?  B Tell you what.  I'll wave my magic wand and include it in previous> versions as well!  Poof!  It's there!  It's just spelled a bit differently:   HELP FORTRAN Run_Time_Messages    - Steve Lionel (mailto:Steve.Lionel@compaq.com)b Fortran Engineeringw& Compaq Computer Corporation, Nashua NH  6 Compaq Fortran web site: http://www.compaq.com/fortran   ------------------------------  % Date: Wed, 23 Aug 2000 10:47:32 -0700 ! From: Shane.F.Smith@Healthnet.comY& Subject: Re: VMS Fortran help requiredC Message-ID: <OF88D5F4D6.8B79EC9D-ON88256944.0061ABAD@HEALTHNET.COM>n  F Blatant use of magical skills in public? Well, I guess now we know the( identity of one of the Wizards...... ;-)   Shaneg          @ Steve Lionel <Steve.Lionel@COMPAQ.COM> on 08/23/2000 06:02:42 AM   To:   Info-VAX@Mvb.Saic.Com  cc:t  ' Subject:  Re: VMS Fortran help requirede    C On Wed, 23 Aug 2000 11:19:43 +0010, paddy.o'brien@zzz.tg.nsw.gov.au  wrote:   >>Online HELP is your friend.b' >>HELP FORTRAN ERROR RUN_TIME INPSTAREQo >>6 >>An unformatted READ statement attempted to read more- >>data than existed in the record being read.r > I >Although I note that Adrian did say that he is on VAX, I thought I mighte just >mention that this is VAX only.e > E >Steve, can your documentation people include this in your next Alpha  upgrade?  B Tell you what.  I'll wave my magic wand and include it in previous> versions as well!  Poof!  It's there!  It's just spelled a bit differently:   HELP FORTRAN Run_Time_Messages    - Steve Lionel (mailto:Steve.Lionel@compaq.com)r Fortran Engineering>& Compaq Computer Corporation, Nashua NH  6 Compaq Fortran web site: http://www.compaq.com/fortran   ------------------------------  # Date: Wed, 23 Aug 2000 09:12:24 GMTa From: info@writerscape.comY Subject: Writerscape.com is the Premier Written Works Exchange Http://www.writerscape.coma3 Message-ID: <YzMo5.13203$J35.140964@news.flash.net>r  : WWW.Writerscape.com is the Premier Written Works Exchange U for Writers, Publishers, Script Buyers and Agents. Revolutionizing the writing world.t# qyyiouyxevkgqfgisgodkmjrchpcthwtnsst   ------------------------------   End of INFO-VAX 2000.471 ************************