1 INFO-VAX	Sun, 27 Aug 2000	Volume 2000 : Issue 479       Contents:* Re: August 2000 edition of the OpenVMS FAQ Re: DECNet Phase IV Manuals ?  Re: DHCP server # Getting Compaq to advertise OpenVMS 2 Re: Here we go again - WTB/T/etc source listing CD Re: LEDs & VAXStation 3100 M48# Re: Mail to another smtp-mailserver 6 Re: Minor Nit In OpenVMS ALPHA Version of SHUTDOWN.COM6 Re: Minor Nit In OpenVMS ALPHA Version of SHUTDOWN.COM$ Re: Portable GUIs (VMS+Windows-NT) ? Re: Powered by VMS Re: printer queue problems
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 Re: run *.com 4 The DECUS Switzerland computer has a sense of humour  F ----------------------------------------------------------------------  % Date: Sun, 27 Aug 2000 10:04:16 +0900 2 From: Mike Rechtman <michael.rechtman@digital.com>3 Subject: Re: August 2000 edition of the OpenVMS FAQ + Message-ID: <39A8E7A0.42EF11B3@digital.com>   E The FAQ at http://www.openvms.digital.com/wizard/openvms_faq.html is  D functionally identical to http://eisnaer.decus.org/vms/data.htm (the no-frames version)G The FAQs date is "Last-modified: 18th. March, 2000" and the 18th August * is is the HTML file's last_modified date. % Sorry for the misleading information. D There has been a bit of confusion as to where the new (August 2000) C version of the FAQ is. I'll HTML it as soon as I get my hands on a  E text copy. If you look at mit.edu you'll find the copy there consists B of three out of five parts. (Unfortunately my week does not match 8 Mr. Hoffman's, so all this may take another day or two.)   Mike   Steven P. Underwood wrote: > D > On Sat, 26 Aug 2000 05:41:03 +0100, Paul Sture <sture.ch@sture.ch> > wrote: > G > >In article <buDp5.475$M62.182077@typhoon.aracnet.com>, Zane H. Healy 	 > >wrote: 7 > >> From: "Zane H. Healy" <healyzh@shell1.aracnet.com> 4 > >> Subject: August 2000 edition of the OpenVMS FAQ > >> Newsgroups: comp.os.vms( > >> Date: Fri, 25 Aug 2000 23:40:55 GMT > >>M > >> Normally I just access the copy of the OpenVMS FAQ available via http on J > >> eisner, however it's out of date.  Where can one find the August 2000 > >> edition on the web? > >>. > >> In other words where does it really live? > >>9 > >http://www.openvms.digital.com/wizard/openvms_faq.html  > > ' > >353Kb, just downloaded this morning.  > >___
 > >Paul Sture  > >Switzerland > > G > Except that the version at this page still does not include the TIME* F > section mentioned by Hoff in another thread.  It appears this one isC > dated 18-AUG but does not contain the 18-AUG information.  If you A > follow the link in that FAQ to rtfm.mit.edu, you will find what A > appears to be the most recent version, although in text format.  >  > Steve  > Steven P. Underwood,DNRC > Whitinsville,MA  > StevenU@POBoxes.com    --  E --------------------------------------------------------------------- E Usual disclaimer: All opinions are mine alone, perhaps not even that. ? Mike Rechtman                            *rechtman@tzora.co.il* F Kibbutz Tzor'a.                          Voice (home): 972-2-9908337  B   "20% of a job takes 80% of the time, the rest takes another 80%"E ---------------------------------------------------------------------  -----BEGIN GEEK CODE BLOCK-----  Version: 3.1: GCM/CS d(-)pu s:+>:- a++ C++ U-- L-- W++ N++ K? w--- V+++$6 PS+ PE-- t 5? X- tv-- b+ DI+ D-- G e++ h--- r+++ y+++@ ------END GEEK CODE BLOCK------    ------------------------------  % Date: Sun, 27 Aug 2000 13:24:04 +0100   From: steven.reece@quintiles.com& Subject: Re: DECNet Phase IV Manuals ?H Message-ID: <OF6035F6A5.CFB3D539-ON80256948.0043E050@qedi.quintiles.com>  J Brian Tillman (tillman underscore brian at cpmx dot mail dot saic dot com) wrote:D >>>Why would ANYONE need to "HTML-ize" Bookreader format files, when WEBBOOK J exists and can display Bookreader documents is a web browser just fine?<<<  I It's also possible to use Hyperreader from the WASD web server set.  It's  remarkably good too.   ------------------------------  % Date: Sun, 27 Aug 2000 11:24:56 -0400 # From: sol gongola <sol@adldata.com>  Subject: Re: DHCP server' Message-ID: <39A932C8.6FCD@adldata.com>   < VMS tcpip 5.0A includes a DHCP server but not a DHCP client.   sol gongola  > ; > Can i use my VMS box (MicroVAX III, OpenVMS 6.2, UCX 4.2)  > as DHCP server?  > 6 > Or DHCP server software is a non-UCX based software? >  > --" > mailto:michael@goliat.eik.bme.hu > Phone: 463-1966    ------------------------------  % Date: Sun, 27 Aug 2000 12:41:50 -0400 2 From: "William Hymen" <t18_pilot@hotmail.spam.com>, Subject: Getting Compaq to advertise OpenVMS7 Message-ID: <1sbq5.21231$g53.386113@news5.giganews.com>   + How do we fill the pipeline with new people & interested in VMS? Who will our future' system administrators be? Why do people , think vms is "legacy" while unix is 30 years old?   If you genuinely want to affect  advertising of OpenVMS, write a ! letter on your Company Letterhead  to the people who make the descisions at Compaq.  Keep ( it professional and keep it to one page.  * If you include "personal and confidential" about three lines down from the ! address, they may actually get it  on their desk. 1)Paper is good. 2)email gets deleted.  3)Company letterheads impress.	    - Bill   % The director of OpenVMS Marketing is:    Compaq Computer Corporation  Mary Ellen Fortier 110 Spit Brook Road 
 ZKO3-4/W24 Nashua, NH 03062  ! The Vice President of OpenVMS is:    Compaq Computer Corporation  Richard Marcello 110 Spit Brook Road 
 ZKO3-4/W24 Nashua, NH 03062   The President of Compaq is:    Compaq Computer Corporation  Michael Capellas 20555 State Highway 249  MS110802 Houston, Texas 77070   ------------------------------  % Date: Sun, 27 Aug 2000 09:38:18 -0400 + From: Tim Shoppa <shoppa@trailing-edge.com> ; Subject: Re: Here we go again - WTB/T/etc source listing CD 1 Message-ID: <39A8E18A.10D3DCA7@trailing-edge.com>    Paul Sture wrote: O > Question: When did Mitnick get out of jail? Social engineering to get hold of - > source code sounds a familiar theme here...   ; I'm no fan of Mitnick's, but as I understand it his "social C engineering" was a bit more smooth than the whining and complaining  that we see here :-).    Tim.   ------------------------------  # Date: Sun, 27 Aug 2000 10:08:10 GMT # From: Mark Sterk <strong@chello.nl> ' Subject: Re: LEDs & VAXStation 3100 M48 ) Message-ID: <39A8E882.A7E88774@chello.nl>    Alessandro Prete wrote:    > Thanks to all :-) J > I'm new to VAX/VMS (and I'm very  fascinated by this type of system) so,D > probably, I'll ask you some other question in the near future :-))- > I'm waiting my VMS media kit from Montagar.   > ... really near future :-))...K > I own a VAXStation 3100 M48 with an internal CD-ROM (I think it should be K > the internal version of the RRD40) without a CD caddy and I'm not able to  > find another one. G > Can I use a different SCSI CD-ROM drive ? What model could be a right 
 > choice ?I > How much space I need to successfully install VMS 7.2 (I have two RZ23,  > 104 MB) ? I > From the >>> prompt is it possible to know how much memory is installed  > in my system ? > Thanks > 	 > Cheers,  >   Ale  >   K The RRD40 is still from a time that CD's were expensive, every cd you owned * (probably less than 10) got his own caddy.M It's almost impossible to put another cd into this caddy (at least annoying).   H The RRD40 is manufactured by Philips, maybe they still sell the caddies.- I advice you to look for a newer RRD4x drive.   K If you want to know how much memory your system has, run test 50 ( >>> t 50  ).J This will show your configuration, the amount of memory is shown in hex so 10.0000.0000 means 16 MB. L If you have less than 8MB don't even think of installing VMS7.2 use an older version.     Success,   Mark   ------------------------------  % Date: Sun, 27 Aug 2000 11:28:00 -0400 # From: sol gongola <sol@adldata.com> , Subject: Re: Mail to another smtp-mailserver' Message-ID: <39A93380.7F93@adldata.com>   1 VMS TCPIP smtp sends mail to other smtp servers.  3 That is what smtp does. You should also think about 5 turning off smtp relay if you are accepting internet   traffic.   sol gongola    > L > Hi, does anyone of you know, whether I can send a mail from vms to anotherO > smtp-mailserver or if there is any freeware to do this? I want to mail a file = > to a person that is not connected to vms thanks in advance,  >  > Gerd >  > -- >                    ////  >                  (o o)% > -----------o0o.-(_)-.o0o-----------  > www.DPSG-Vilsbiburg.de > ( > Sent via Deja.com http://www.deja.com/ > Before you buy.    ------------------------------  % Date: Sun, 27 Aug 2000 06:06:59 +0100   From: Paul Sture <paul@sture.ch>? Subject: Re: Minor Nit In OpenVMS ALPHA Version of SHUTDOWN.COM + Message-ID: <VA.000000b0.02c6c742@sture.ch>   ; In article <ULJp5.413$%6.10445@insync>, Jerry Leslie wrote: 6 > From: LESLIE@209-16-45-102.insync.net (Jerry Leslie)A > Subject: Re: Minor Nit In OpenVMS ALPHA Version of SHUTDOWN.COM  > Newsgroups: comp.os.vms % > Date: Sat, 26 Aug 2000 06:49:24 GMT  > 5 > Hoff Hoffman (hoffman@xdelta.zko.dec.nospam) wrote:  > : W > : In article <8o69u6$21j$1@joe.rice.edu>, leslie@clio.rice.edu (Jerry Leslie) writes: J > : :The OpenVMS ALPHA version of SYS$SYSTEM:SHUTDOWN.COM has "Standalone", > : :as the default reason for the shutdown: > : : ( > : :   Reason for shutdown [Standalone] > : : J > : :but OpenVMS ALPHA no longer has a "Standalone" backup, per the output > : :from STABACKIT.COM: > : O > :   Ok, I'll propose that "Standalone" means "Standalone System Operations",  M > :   and quite obviously this has nothing to do with that Standalone BACKUP  M > :   stuff.  (Problem solved. :-) I can pass this proposal to the technical  ; > :   writers, unless you can suggest a better alternative.  > :  > F > Or "Booting into single user mode", since that's a familiar term to B > unix sysadmins, although it may not be performed the same way as > booting OpenVMS from the CD. >  > T I quite like that description. It's accurate and clearer to non-technical folks too.   ___ 
 Paul Sture Switzerland    ------------------------------  % Date: Sun, 27 Aug 2000 12:50:47 +0100   From: steven.reece@quintiles.com? Subject: Re: Minor Nit In OpenVMS ALPHA Version of SHUTDOWN.COM H Message-ID: <OF008B1285.91DE110B-ON80256948.00401366@qedi.quintiles.com>   Paul Sture commented/quoted: >>> ; In article <ULJp5.413$%6.10445@insync>, Jerry Leslie wrote:  (trim)E > Or "Booting into single user mode", since that's a familiar term to B > unix sysadmins, although it may not be performed the same way as > booting OpenVMS from the CD. >  > I I quite like that description. It's accurate and clearer to non-technical 
 folks too.<<<     E I think Jerry's comment of being familiar to Unix sysadmins is rather I telling here.  The sysadmins may understand it but that doesn't mean that 
 the users do. H I had a VAX with the BASE-VMS-250136 license on it and had problems withE its user license.  A number of users didn't understand the issue of a J single user license and, by extension, a single user mode.  They seemed toI have the impression of "I could login so I assumed that the system was ok  to use".  D It could be that the best option is that the shutdown reason is onlyK partially (if at all) broken so leave it as-is.  Alternatively, would it be I feasible for this to be obtained from a logical name that could be set up J on a system by system basis so that if the system manager wanted somethingD else as the default reason it could be set up in the system startup?   Steve.   ------------------------------  + Date: Sun, 27 Aug 2000 11:23:03 +0200 (MET)  From: ZINSER@sysdev.exchange.de - Subject: Re: Portable GUIs (VMS+Windows-NT) ? 3 Message-ID: <01JTGOB2E1KY9JJ1GO@sysdev.exchange.de>    Hello!  > 	Since I don't work for them anymore I might add that one alsoA 	can use the SAS system for this (but has to be prepared to spend  	serious money for it).    					Greetings, Martin  : > From:	IN%"INFO-VAX@MVB.SAIC.COM" 26-AUG-2000 02:04:14.08, > Subj:	RE: Portable GUIs (VMS+Windows-NT) ?  5 > In <spqk458487v104@corp.supernews.com>, on 08/25/00 D >    at 06:37 PM, "Jim Jennis" <jjennis@discovery.fuentez.com> said: >  > I > Isn't WRQ the symbol for what used to be/is Wind River Systems?  If so,  > the library is Zinc. >  > Roland > 3 > >"bz" <bernd.zebedin@arcs.ac.at> wrote in message ' > >news:399D073A.D05B0FB2@arcs.ac.at... K > >> I am looking for a mature Tool for development of cross-platform GUIs, M > >> that can be run without major modifications both under OpenVMS and under  > >> Windows-NT.L > >> I have tested the VMS-port of Qt, but it seems to be faulty. Has anyoneI > >> experience with porting Java-GUI-applications to VMS or with the ISA H > >> Dialog Manager  or with any other multi-platform toolkit supporting
 > >> OpenVMS?  > >>! > >> Grateful for any advice, bz.  > >Hi VMS Colleagues,  > D > >I faced this problem in a major integration effort with VMS in myC > >previous job (and also with our current customers) and found the @ > >availability of good mature tools for VMS to be very lacking.K > >Nevertheless I did find a very solid solution, and it MAY be of interest G > >to others on the list so I decided to post the solution we have used  > >here. > K > >For cross platform VMS application development and integration, we use a & > >product from WRQ called Verastream. > * > >http://www.wrq.com/products/verastream/ > @ > >It is a very powerful, mature object oriented cross-platform,E > >cross-database gui/application development tool kit. Runs on 25-30 K > >different OS's (including OVMS and even OS/400) supports 25-30 different I > >databases and about a dozen different inter-application communications 
 > >protocols.  > G > >It generates platform independent code that is REALLY write once run H > >anywhere (unlike Java which is usually "write once test everywhere"). > 7 > >We use it on OVMS, Linux, Solaris, HP-UX, NT, 95/98.  > L > >You can generate apps with Motif, Windows, Character based, WEB interfaceI > >and have a single source application that runs on any platform without D > >recompilation or source code changes. IMHO it is a great product. > H > >You can write an application on VMS and run it on Linux, NT, Unix, or > >vice-versa. > I > >If anyone would like additional information, feel free to write me off  > >the list. >  > >Regards,  >  > >Jim >  >  >  > --= > ----------------------------------------------------------- F > yyyc186@flashcom.net              To Respond delete ".illegaltospam"8 >                             MR/2 Internet Cruiser 1.52: >                             For a Microsoft free univers= > ----------------------------------------------------------- P Dr. Martin P.J. Zinser                                 zinser@sysdev.exchange.de2 Deutsche Boerse Systems AG                        O Koenigsberger Str. 29                                  Tel: +49 69 2101 5634    L 60284 Frankfurt                                        FAX: +49 69 2101 3411P Germany                                                Private:  zinser@decus.de   ------------------------------  # Date: Sun, 27 Aug 2000 07:42:28 GMT  From: Dirk Munk <munk@home.nl> Subject: Re: Powered by VMS ' Message-ID: <39A8C663.BAF7E464@home.nl>   ) How about http://www.northernlight.com/ ?    regards,   Dirk   MerefBast wrote: >  >    Hi. > ; >    I am putting together a comparison list of which major > > businesses and organizations use which operating systems for > their web servers (at A > <http://www.OperatingSystems.net/system/internet/internet.htm>.  > 1 >    So, I am asking for fans or users of OpenVMS D > to provide verifiable accounts of businesses or organizations that1 > use VMS for their web servers. Verifiable means ? > something such as a URL to a web page on their site that says A > "powered by..." or e-mail from the web master or other employee @ > of the business or organization. Major means easily and widely, > recognizeable businesses or organizations. > 7 >    Please send a courtesy copy of your information to 7 > <MerefBast@aol.com> or <Author@OperatingSystems.net>.  >  >    Thanks...   ------------------------------  % Date: Sun, 27 Aug 2000 18:10:58 +1000u/ From: "Phil Howell" <howellp@snowyhydro.com.au>P# Subject: Re: printer queue problems 1 Message-ID: <F04q5.1936$cr3.77171@ozemail.com.au>o  0 David Romero <romerod@gedas.es> wrote in message" news:39A61EEE.15A5F815@gedas.es...= > This is the result of show queue/full and show device/full:H >OG > I created CLJ45_CT_B1 and CLJ45_CT_B1_TXT with TCPIP$LPRSETUP commandb where de > remote > system6 > is de IP_address, because the printer has a netcard. >  >e > Any suggestions are welcome. >uL check the logical names for tcpip* especially tcpip$lpd* and check that they	 are valid-H type out tcpip$lpd_printcap and check that any logical names in lf: (log= file) and sd: (spool directory) also translate to valid nameso= You have got a spool directory for these printers havn't you?g Phil <snip>   ------------------------------  % Date: Sun, 27 Aug 2000 06:06:59 +0100d  From: Paul Sture <paul@sture.ch> Subject: Re: run *.com+ Message-ID: <VA.000000af.02c6c5d0@sture.ch>   J In article <LVVp5.14731$QW4.189222@news1.rdc1.mi.home.com>, Dave Pampreen  wrote:/ > From: "Dave Pampreen" <davepampreen@home.com>o > Newsgroups: comp.os.vmsn > Subject: Re: run *.com% > Date: Sat, 26 Aug 2000 20:39:07 GMT  >  > How about simply:Q >  > $ SUBMIT *  /LOG=MYLOG > 1 > Then you would have a log of all of the damage!  > : Unless of course zzz.com went and deleted all log files :) >  > H > "Larry Kilgallen" <Kilgallen@eisner.decus.org.nospam> wrote in message' > news:2hRhz$DnbJ1p@eisner.decus.org...e? > > In article <8o6558$qtp$1@goliat.eik.bme.hu>, FAZEKAS Mihalye% > <michael@goliat.eik.bme.hu> writes:II > > > How can i simply run all .COM file in current (or spec.) directory?o > > D > > I think the first step would be to back all files up to tape :-) >u   ___0
 Paul Sture SwitzerlandF   ------------------------------  % Date: Sun, 27 Aug 2000 18:16:15 +1000 / From: "Phil Howell" <howellp@snowyhydro.com.au>  Subject: Re: run *.com1 Message-ID: <C54q5.1939$cr3.77251@ozemail.com.au>   ; FAZEKAS Mihaly <michael@goliat.eik.bme.hu> wrote in message & news:8o6558$qtp$1@goliat.eik.bme.hu...E > How can i simply run all .COM file in current (or spec.) directory?h >  In sequence or concurrently? Phil   ------------------------------  % Date: Sun, 27 Aug 2000 20:06:58 +0010h% From: paddy.o'brien@zzz.tg.nsw.gov.aun Subject: Re: run *.com5 Message-ID: <01JTH6P0PQ6Q003IXG@tgmail.tg.nsw.gov.au>i   FAZEKAS Mihaly wrote:bE > How can i simply run all .COM file in current (or spec.) directory?     N As many have said, do you know what you are doing?  Do you know what the .COM " files do, or is it just curiosity?  ' I hope that you run without privileges.h  Q I remembered that I had picked up something years ago from Compuserve, a copy of -P an article by Kevin Barkes.  Since I believe that the VAXforum on Compuserve is Q dead as is DEC Professional, I trust I do not infringe any copyrights by posting .Q it below my sig, and Bill Mayhew's comment implies that this is "free to air"..  %O Also, IIRC, KGB has made all his articles freely available on the Internet. It - was entitled TROJAN.TXT.   Regards, Paddy   Paddy O'Brien, Transmission Development,s
 TransGrid, PO Box A1000, Sydney South,  NSW 2000, AustraliaV   Tel:   +61 2 9284-3063 Fax:   +61 2 9284-3050& Email: paddy.o'brien@zzz.tg.nsw.gov.au  M Either "\'" or "\s" (to escape the apostrophe) seems to work for most people, ; but that little whizz-bang apostrophe gives me little spam.V     ***** Article by Kevin Barkes.  B The following is a copy of an article by Kevin Barkes, VAX systemsB consultant and author for the DEC Professional magazine.  Kevin is@ also a member of the VAX Forum, and operates his own VAX-related) bulletin board system, called SYS$OUTPUT.e  B Because of the importance of the problem described here, Kevin hasC agreed to post this copy of the article here, now that the NovemberoB issue of the DEC Professional has "hit the streets".  We thank him8 for making it available to CompuServe VAX Forum members.        -Bill Mayhews         Ass't. Sysop, VAX Forumm  ? COPYRIGHT (c) 1988 by PROFESSIONAL PRESS.  All rights reserved.      DCL DIALOGUE November, 19886 Viruses, Trojans, and Code That Goes Bump in the Night   I guess it was inevitable.  I Someone uploaded a "trojan" DCL command procedure to my PC-based bulletiniN board system, SYS$OUTPUT. No damage was done, aside from a slight weakening of# my faith in VAX-related BBS users. i  P I'm mentioning it here because DCL command procedures are frequently overlooked O as potential sources of viruses, trojans, and other software bombs. After all, pO it's only DCL, right?  I mean, how could you possibly stick something damaging rK in a DCL command file without it being immediately spotted? The despicable  H individual who uploaded VMMAN.COM to my board managed to camouflage the 5 potentially devastating effects quite imaginatively. t  I On the surface, the .COM file appeared as if it would do a decent job of  N extracting information from and manipulating the contents of VMSMAIL.DAT, the ' mail database file on VMS 4.x systems. r  N Lurking deep within its utilitarian bowels, however, was a single line of code that I almost missed:t  " $ 'F$EDIT(A1+A3+A4+DIR+WC,"TRIM")'  M The line jumped out at me as I scrolled through it on the PC's monitor. FancyhM stuff, I thought. The programmer had used symbol concatenation to construct aoL command string, the contents of which varied depending upon the operation ofJ the procedure.	It was spiffy, efficient DCL, the kind I like to feature inN this column. I decided to contact the author to see if I could include it in aJ future DCL Dialogue, provided the procedure ran properly when I tested it.  K I called the telephone number the uploader had provided when he dialed intoiH the system, but got a "no such number" recording.  The street address heL provided did not match the listing in my desktop zip code directory, either.  5 Obviously, this fellow was trying to pull a fast one.   I First-time users on my BBS system have restricted privileges. They cannot"H upload files or enter messages in public areas until I verify them.  TheK policy prevents immature individuals ("twits", in BBS jargon) from entering:L offensive messages or uploading material which should not reside on a public system.4  L This individual was so hot for me to use the procedure that he left it as a M message to the sysop, which was certain to get my attention. That it did.  I  M dug back into the code, and made a rather alarming discovery. The symbols in  E the F$EDIT string, which were assigned in various places through the  G procedure, were A1=D, A3=ELE, A4="TE ", DIR=SYS$SYSTEM:, and WC=*.*;*. t  K When concatenated and used as contained within the procedure, this friendly $ little file would issue the command:   $ DELETE SYS$SYSTEM:*.*;*I  M The offending line was preceded by code which turned off error messaging, set H the process' privileges to ALL and performed several other steps to makeN certain the person using the command file would be unaware of the damage beingN wreaked on his system directory until it would be too late.  What made mattersJ even more insidious were the user-friendly comments contained in the code,L explaining why each action was taken.  Even the symbols, system killers whenM assembled by F$EDIT, had real, benign purposes when used elsewhere within theh file.e  L I'm not going to tell you I discovered the trojan through superb DCL skills. It was just dumb luck.  I My interest piqued by a phony id, I just scrutinized the file a lot more  M closely than usual.  I don't care to imagine the consequences had I uploaded  O the procedure to Professional Press' VAX and asked the system manager to "give   it a spin".   
 Safe Software-  I The timing of the trojan's arrival was ironic.  Just the day before I hadaM received a letter from one of my BBS' users asking whether I could assure hisF? bosses that the software he obtained from my board was "clean".r  K Unfortunately, no BBS sysop can do that.  I know my board's users; they arelM unlike most BBS denizens in that they are virtually all professionals who useaM VAXen in their work.  They have very little interest in games and the type ofrJ files downloaded by "typical" BBS users.  But passwords can be stolen, andG even the most honest user can unknowingly pass along a virus or trojan. M I told him that the odds of bad software residing on my board were lower than-K a general-purpose BBS, but the threat was there, thus the disclaimer on thewL download section.  The little bundle delivered by my unknown DCL expert just brought home the point.0  ( So, what can you do to protect yourself?  L o Remember that most public domain and "shareware" software is offered on anL as-is, unguaranteed basis.  Stupidity kills more systems than viruses, so beA cautious and read whatever documentation accompanies the program.   K o Obtain software from reliable sources only, such as DECUS, users' groups,s# and BBS systems you know and trust.0  I o Despite utmost care in executing the preceding steps, always assume the H worst and treat the new piece of software as a potential bomb waiting to	 detonate.   H o Avoid using .EXE files; try to get the source files, and recompile andK relink them.  And be certain to look at the source; as our DCL example herenH shows, the ability to read the source doesn't mean the software is safe.  M o Test all software from accounts with no privileges.  Turning off your privs'I does no good when the program or command file can switch them back on and E inflict major damage.  Be especially careful when trying out a system N management utility or other program which manipulates VMS security structures,4 and which must be executed with privileges in place.  J Until this happened to me, I was skeptical of the hysterical media reportsN concerning viruses.  To a large degree, I still think the problem is blown out of proportion.  K But looking in the new uploads section of the ol' BBS is getting a lot morer traumatic than it used to be.    *****End of articlet   ------------------------------  # Date: Sun, 27 Aug 2000 13:20:49 GMT0- From: "Dave Pampreen" <davepampreen@home.com>u Subject: Re: run *.com; Message-ID: <RA8q5.16023$QW4.199053@news1.rdc1.mi.home.com>8  L Nope, then you would see an error stating MYLOG.LOG was open and couldn't be
 deleted :)   Dave- "Paul Sture" <paul@sture.ch> wrote in messagee% news:VA.000000af.02c6c5d0@sture.ch...sK > In article <LVVp5.14731$QW4.189222@news1.rdc1.mi.home.com>, Dave Pampreen  > wrote:1 > > From: "Dave Pampreen" <davepampreen@home.com>C > > Newsgroups: comp.os.vms  > > Subject: Re: run *.com' > > Date: Sat, 26 Aug 2000 20:39:07 GMT< > >  > > How about simply:n > >b > > $ SUBMIT *  /LOG=MYLOG > >s3 > > Then you would have a log of all of the damage!  > >t< > Unless of course zzz.com went and deleted all log files :) > >- > >5J > > "Larry Kilgallen" <Kilgallen@eisner.decus.org.nospam> wrote in message) > > news:2hRhz$DnbJ1p@eisner.decus.org...eA > > > In article <8o6558$qtp$1@goliat.eik.bme.hu>, FAZEKAS Mihalyo' > > <michael@goliat.eik.bme.hu> writes:oK > > > > How can i simply run all .COM file in current (or spec.) directory?i > > >hF > > > I think the first step would be to back all files up to tape :-) > >s >A > ___i > Paul Sture
 > Switzerlandf >t   ------------------------------  % Date: Sun, 27 Aug 2000 06:43:43 +0100y$ From: Paul Sture <sture.ch@sture.ch>= Subject: The DECUS Switzerland computer has a sense of humours+ Message-ID: <VA.000000b1.02e8672f@sture.ch>-  E I've got to share this. The bill for my yearly subscription to DECUS  A somehow got buried under other paperwork. Here's the text of the + payment reminder:s  G -----------------------------------------------------------------------t Unpaid Invoice No: xxxxxxxxxxa  @ I am the DECUS (Switzerland) computer and have noticed that the ( following invoice has not yet been paid.   <Invoice details>a  F Our accountant does not yet know this, but I will have to print a new F debtors list within the next few days. If you can transfer the amount G of <amount> before 31st August 2000, then this invoice will not appear r> on the list. That would of course be in your interest, or not?  E In case you have paid the invoice in the meantime, please treat this o letter as waste paper.  G -----------------------------------------------------------------------t   Absolutely wonderful!o! Needless to say, I've paid up ;-)c ___p
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