1 INFO-VAX	Sun, 03 Dec 2000	Volume 2000 : Issue 675       Contents: Re: "EXECUTE" Command  Re: "EXECUTE" Command  Re: "EXECUTE" Command . Re: AlphaStation 255/300 and large disk drives. Re: AlphaStation 255/300 and large disk drives. Re: AlphaStation 255/300 and large disk drives; Re: Compaq Secure Web Server for OpenVMS - access violation ; Re: Compaq Secure Web Server for OpenVMS - access violation  Re: Connecting a CD-writer..3 Cxan I install only accesories from PAthworks CD ??  hi there! Re: How fast is a SCSI connection   Re: OpenVMS 7.3 - The right date  Re: OpenVMS 7.3 - The right date Re: SW Raid 310 and VMS  Re: SW Raid 310 and VMS  TCPware/Purveyor Problem Two hosts sharing RA system  Re: Two hosts sharing RA system  Re: VMS vs. Tru64 Unix  F ----------------------------------------------------------------------  % Date: Sun, 03 Dec 2000 10:44:46 +0100   From: Paul Sture <paul@sture.ch> Subject: Re: "EXECUTE" Command+ Message-ID: <VA.000001b0.228f93c2@sture.ch>   F In article <3A29811A.9182F893@earthlink.net>, David J. Dachtera wrote:9 > From: "David J. Dachtera" <djesys.nospam@earthlink.net>  > Newsgroups: comp.os.vms  > Subject: "EXECUTE" Command' > Date: Sat, 02 Dec 2000 17:09:14 -0600  >  > Hi, Folks, > F > In recent threads we've again covered the issue of not being able to5 > communicate with HSx controllers from a batch job.   > K I ran into this one a long time ago. IIRC, it _really_ insisted on talking   to a terminal.  H If I read you correctly, the solution is to use HSDSA-SCRIPT_ALPHA.EXE, K which I believe comes from CSC rather than from a standard distribution. I  D have seen it live in SYS$ETC, so it may come on a firmware disk too.     ___ 
 Paul Sture Switzerland    ------------------------------  # Date: Sun, 03 Dec 2000 17:26:08 GMT 7 From: "David J. Dachtera" <djesys.nospam@earthlink.net>  Subject: Re: "EXECUTE" Command- Message-ID: <3A2A84D5.1EDEA105@earthlink.net>    Paul Sture wrote:  > H > In article <3A29811A.9182F893@earthlink.net>, David J. Dachtera wrote:; > > From: "David J. Dachtera" <djesys.nospam@earthlink.net>  > > Newsgroups: comp.os.vms  > > Subject: "EXECUTE" Command) > > Date: Sat, 02 Dec 2000 17:09:14 -0600  > >  > > Hi, Folks, > > H > > In recent threads we've again covered the issue of not being able to6 > > communicate with HSx controllers from a batch job. > > L > I ran into this one a long time ago. IIRC, it _really_ insisted on talking > to a terminal. > I > If I read you correctly, the solution is to use HSDSA-SCRIPT_ALPHA.EXE, L > which I believe comes from CSC rather than from a standard distribution. IF > have seen it live in SYS$ETC, so it may come on a firmware disk too. >  > ___  > Paul Sture
 > Switzerland   D I don't recall ever seeing HSDSA-SCRIPT (any arch.) on a VMS distro.  1 I do have it in my freeware directory, however at # http://www.djesys.com/freeware/vms/    --   David J. Dachtera  dba DJE Systems  http://www.djesys.com/  : Unofficial Affordable OpenVMS Home Page and Message Board: http://www.djesys.com/vms/soho/   F This *IS* an OpenVMS-related newsgroup. So, a certain bias in postings is to be expected.  @ Feel free to exercise your rights of free speech and expression.  F However, attacks against individual posters, or groups of posters, are strongly discouraged.    ------------------------------  # Date: Sun, 03 Dec 2000 17:32:48 GMT 7 From: "David J. Dachtera" <djesys.nospam@earthlink.net>  Subject: Re: "EXECUTE" Command- Message-ID: <3A2A8668.F4A018B2@earthlink.net>    Jordan Henderson wrote:  > [snip]D > I don't want to add too much to the task, but there is BLISS also. > ( > Been meaning to learn BLISS someday...  @ Interesting, since BLISS seems to be the only language where theB /MACHINE_CODE qualifier actually means something (produces usuable MACRO32 code).   --   David J. Dachtera  dba DJE Systems  http://www.djesys.com/  : Unofficial Affordable OpenVMS Home Page and Message Board: http://www.djesys.com/vms/soho/   F This *IS* an OpenVMS-related newsgroup. So, a certain bias in postings is to be expected.  @ Feel free to exercise your rights of free speech and expression.  F However, attacks against individual posters, or groups of posters, are strongly discouraged.    ------------------------------  # Date: Sun, 03 Dec 2000 08:42:46 GMT ! From: "dls2" <dlshearer@home.com> 7 Subject: Re: AlphaStation 255/300 and large disk drives < Message-ID: <aInW5.15841$w35.2789035@news1.rdc1.nj.home.com>  = For me, a 9GB Quantum Fireball did not work, due to scsi mode < configuration issues, but, a 9GB Seagate Barracuda did work.       --  Derrick Shearer   + "Javier Henderson" <javier@kjsl.com> wrote: @ > I'm trying to find what's the size limit for disk drives on anF > AlphaStation 255/300 with VMS 7.2. I currently have two 4 GB drives,@ > both of which have been spinning for entirely too long and are. > starting to log too many errors for comfort. > ? > This is a hobby system, so buying genuine RZ series is out of H > the question. And finding "small" 4GB drives locally has been a trying > adventure... > . > No shortage of 15GB and above drives though. > A > Any idea if these would work on this beast? I BTFW (browsed the > > fine website) at Compaq but didn't find anything relevant... >  > -jav   ------------------------------  # Date: Sun, 03 Dec 2000 17:35:21 GMT 7 From: "David J. Dachtera" <djesys.nospam@earthlink.net> 7 Subject: Re: AlphaStation 255/300 and large disk drives - Message-ID: <3A2A8702.2D4081AA@earthlink.net>    dls2 wrote:  > ? > For me, a 9GB Quantum Fireball did not work, due to scsi mode > > configuration issues, but, a 9GB Seagate Barracuda did work.  D Experience from the field seems to indicate that many standard-issue, Seagates will work with OVMS out of the box.   FWIW...    --   David J. Dachtera  dba DJE Systems  http://www.djesys.com/  : Unofficial Affordable OpenVMS Home Page and Message Board: http://www.djesys.com/vms/soho/   F This *IS* an OpenVMS-related newsgroup. So, a certain bias in postings is to be expected.  @ Feel free to exercise your rights of free speech and expression.  F However, attacks against individual posters, or groups of posters, are strongly discouraged.    ------------------------------  # Date: Sun, 03 Dec 2000 17:48:21 GMT 7 From: "David J. Dachtera" <djesys.nospam@earthlink.net> 7 Subject: Re: AlphaStation 255/300 and large disk drives - Message-ID: <3A2A8A0B.E01AA56A@earthlink.net>    Javier Henderson wrote:  > H >         I'm trying to find what's the size limit for disk drives on an% > AlphaStation 255/300 with VMS 7.2.    = I'm not sure there is a limit, outside of hardware and driver A limitations which seem quite liberal. 18+GB drives are not at all E uncommon, and some people build EXTREMELY LARGE RAID sets and present , them to Alpha/VMS systems with few problems.  G >         This is a hobby system, so buying genuine RZ series is out of  > the question.   : Rather depends on wther you can live with "small" disks...  H I found a guy on eBay selling RZ28B-VAs (circa 2GB) for $40 each. If youF don't have a storage shelf, you can take them out of the canisters andG use them bare (may need SCSI id. jumpers). I've picked up a BA350 shelf  for less than $200US.   G Castlewood's Orb (cartridge drive) works reasonably well with OVMS, but E only if you have a way to install the latest firmware update (needs a E DOS machine with a SCSI card). The drive retails around $179.95US and @ the cartridges (circa 2.2GB unformatted, 2.05GBF/ODS) are around	 $29.95US.    My $0.02US worth...    --   David J. Dachtera  dba DJE Systems  http://www.djesys.com/  : Unofficial Affordable OpenVMS Home Page and Message Board: http://www.djesys.com/vms/soho/   F This *IS* an OpenVMS-related newsgroup. So, a certain bias in postings is to be expected.  @ Feel free to exercise your rights of free speech and expression.  F However, attacks against individual posters, or groups of posters, are strongly discouraged.    ------------------------------  % Date: Sun, 03 Dec 2000 10:44:39 +0100   From: Paul Sture <paul@sture.ch>D Subject: Re: Compaq Secure Web Server for OpenVMS - access violation+ Message-ID: <VA.000001ae.228f78c4@sture.ch>   < In article <GsLvAE+e8u2E@eisner.decus.org>, Rob Young wrote:, > From: young_r@eisner.decus.org (Rob Young) > Newsgroups: comp.os.vms F > Subject: Re: Compaq Secure Web Server for OpenVMS - access violation! > Date: 2 Dec 2000 23:37:34 -0500  > P > In article <VA.000001ac.1dceb595@sture.ch>, Paul Sture <paul@sture.ch> writes: > > Problem Report > >  > > This on Alpha VMS V7.2-1H1.  > >    [mucho snippo]  
 > > $ perl3 > > %DCL-W-ACTIMAGE, error activating image PERLSHR  > > -CLI-E-IMGNAME, image file9 > > $2$DKA0:[APACHE_KITS.PERL5_005_03.][000000]PERL.EXE;1 > > > -SYSTEM-F-SHRIDMISMAT, ident mismatch with shareable image > > $!D > > $! Have I set the symbols/logicals up correctly? Yes I think so: > > $ show log/fu perl_root C > >    "PERL_ROOT" [exec] = "DATA_DISK:[APACHE_KITS.PERL5_005_03.]" " > > [concealed] (LNM$SYSTEM_TABLE) > > $ show log ubs_disk/fu; > >    "DATA_DISK" [exec] = "$2$DKA0:" [concealed,terminal]  > > (LNM$SYSTEM_TABLE) > > $ sho sym perl+ > >   PERL == "$PERL_ROOT:[000000]PERL.EXE"  > > $ show log perlshrB > >    "PERLSHR" = "PERL_ROOT:[000000]PERL.EXE" (LNM$SYSTEM_TABLE) >  > 0 >  Shouldn't PERLSHR be pointing to PERLSHR.EXE? >    Duh! Hangs head in shame!   # Thanks for spotting the obvious :-)    > > ___  > > Paul Sture > > Switzerland  > >  >    ___ 
 Paul Sture Switzerland    ------------------------------  % Date: Sun, 03 Dec 2000 10:44:40 +0100   From: Paul Sture <paul@sture.ch>D Subject: Re: Compaq Secure Web Server for OpenVMS - access violation+ Message-ID: <VA.000001af.228f7b59@sture.ch>   1 In article <90bv0f$t83$1@nnrp1.deja.com>,  wrote:  > From: jgessling@my-deja.com  > Newsgroups: comp.os.vms F > Subject: Re: Compaq Secure Web Server for OpenVMS - access violation% > Date: Sat, 02 Dec 2000 23:01:36 GMT  > - > In article <VA.000001ac.1dceb595@sture.ch>, A > > According to the Accounting utility, the final status code os  > 10000024, E > > text %SYSTEM-F-NOPRIV, isufficient privilege or object protection  > > violation. > >  > B > I'm not totaly sure, since I didn't work on it too much.  But myG > experience was that the apache account needed lost of privs to really ( > work right.  That's what I did anyway. >   I'm not sure I like that idea...  G But I've got it working on my home system with just NETMBX and TMPMBX.  , This is the CSWS version, dated 28-SEP-2000.  B The difference is that at home I have V7.2-1 rather than V7.2-1H1. ___ 
 Paul Sture Switzerland    ------------------------------  % Date: Sun, 03 Dec 2000 12:28:03 -0600 7 From: "David J. Dachtera" <djesys.nospam@earthlink.net> % Subject: Re: Connecting a CD-writer.. , Message-ID: <3A2A90B3.789FF70@earthlink.net>   "Richard B. Gilbert" wrote:  > [snip]L >         I very much doubt that VMS will *ever* sell for the prices that NT > or LInux systems do.  H Well, be careful to keep the appropriate items separated (i.e., hardware and software).  F You can put a "freeware" o.s. on an extremely expensive chunk of AlphaH hardware, just as you can put an overpriced commercial o.s. (OpenVMS) on very low cost (used) hardware.  @ The "hard" part is getting the mix right: competitive prices forF hard/soft-ware. ...and the "hardness", as has been discussed in myriad$ past threads, is largely artificial.   --   David J. Dachtera  dba DJE Systems  http://www.djesys.com/  : Unofficial Affordable OpenVMS Home Page and Message Board: http://www.djesys.com/vms/soho/   F This *IS* an OpenVMS-related newsgroup. So, a certain bias in postings is to be expected.  @ Feel free to exercise your rights of free speech and expression.  F However, attacks against individual posters, or groups of posters, are strongly discouraged.    ------------------------------  # Date: Sun, 03 Dec 2000 08:41:20 GMT  From: sharty@ccbs.com (MJS) < Subject: Cxan I install only accesories from PAthworks CD ??9 Message-ID: <3a2a0296.898868650@news.hlndpk1.il.home.com>   D I am loading up some newer machines and they will not run my currentC version ( old) of pathworks, but I'd like to use the VT320 emulator  from it for terminal emulation.   ( However, I do not see an install for it.  F By clicking on the VT320.EXE i got the name of about 3 DLL's it wantedE and moved them to the \windows\system directory and got it to come up + with 4 serial ports but  TELNET is ghosted.   B Is there a way to get it to work with a telnet (TCP/IP connection0D without all of the rest of the Pathwork overhead that will not go on this machine ???  E (is there a subset of the additional DLL's that will allow connection  over a TCP/IP socket)    ------------------------------  % Date: Sun, 03 Dec 2000 12:21:52 +0001  From: redial1@maktoob.com  Subject: hi there + Message-ID: <218.806304.651201@maktoob.com>    Vortex Supplies   ! Toner Supplies at discount prices  Laser Printer Toner Cartridges   Fax and Copier Cartridges   9 Order now direct from the company that sells wholesale to = your local retail stores and save up to 30% on your purchase.    Order by phone:1-888-288-9043  Order by fax: 1-888-977-1577  + *** E-mail removal line: 1-888-248-4930 ***   , Pay by check, credit card or Purchase Order.  b If your order is by check please leave your check number (Mail check when you receive merchandise)P If your order is by credit card please leave your card number + expiration date d If your order is by P.O. please leave your shipping/billing addresses and you Purchase Order number.      Current Prices are as follows:                                    , Cartridges for Hewlett Packard printers:                                      / 4L,4p,1100 and series 2 cartridges are now $49  ! 2p cartridges are $54             ! 3si cartridges are $75            ! 4000 and 2100 cartridges are $79  ! 5000 and 8100 cartridges are $135 & 5p, 6p, 5mp and 6mp cartridges are $59   Cartridges for Apple printers   ) Pro 600 or 16-600 cartridges are now $69  6 Laser writer select 300,320 and 360 cartridges are $69+ Laser writer 300 and 320 cartridges are $54 6 Laser writer NT, 2nt, 2f, 2g and LS cartridges are $54/ Laser writer personal 12-640 cartridges are $79   2 Cartridges for Hewlett Packard laser fax printers:  > Laser fax 500,700,5000,7000,fx1 and fx2 cartridges are now $59  Laser fax fx3 cartridges are $69$ Our laser fax fx4 cartridges are $79  ' Cartridges for Lexmark and IBM printers     Optra 4019 and 4029 are now $125* optra r,r+ and optra s cartridges are $135 optra e cartridges are $59    Our cartridges for canon copiers  % PC 3, 6re, 7 and 11 (A30) are now $69 ) PC 300,320,700,720 and 760 (E-40) are $89   2 90 day extended warranty included on all products.   ------------------------------  # Date: Sun, 03 Dec 2000 09:49:25 GMT ! From: "dls2" <dlshearer@home.com> * Subject: Re: How fast is a SCSI connection< Message-ID: <FGoW5.15904$w35.2797776@news1.rdc1.nj.home.com>  ) "Rudolf Wingert" <win@fom.fgan.de> wrote: . > There is also a 32bit/66Mhz PCI with 256MB/s# > and the 64bit/66Mhz with 512MB/s.   + Standard 32-bit/33-MHz PCI runs at 132MB/s, 0 as verified by multiplying the number of bits by/ the speed of the bus, and dividing by eight, to  convert bits into bytes.  , 32-bit/66-MHz PCI runs at double the rate of 32-bit/33-MHz PCI.  , 64-bit/66-MHz PCI runs at double the rate of* 32-bit/66-MHz PCI, equivalent to quadruple the rate of 32-bit/33-MHz PCI.  1 Other combinations run at their respective rates.        --  Derrick Shearer    ------------------------------  % Date: Sun, 03 Dec 2000 10:19:25 -0300 ) From: fabio_compaq@ep-bc.petrobras.com.br ) Subject: Re: OpenVMS 7.3 - The right date L Message-ID: <OF42E219DB.2806DA2B-ON032569AA.0049161C@ep-bc.petrobras.com.br>  E My productions systems are Alphaserver 4100 running OVMS 7.1 and 7.2. 6 I want to discard just the VAXes.... not the alphas...   Regards    FC              H "David J. Dachtera" <djesys.nospam@earthlink.net> em 02/12/2000 00:16:37L                                                                             L                                                                             L                                                                                 >                                                               >                                                               >                                                               >  Para:    Info-VAX@Mvb.Saic.Com                               >                                                               >  cc:      (bcc: Fabio dos Santos Cardoso/E-P-BC/Contratada)   >                                                               >                                                               >                                                               >  Assunto: Re: OpenVMS 7.3 - The right date                    >                                                                             * fabio_compaq@ep-bc.petrobras.com.br wrote: >aH > Do you know what date the OVMS 7.3 will be release ? Jan, Feb or Mar ?2 > The online documentation just say First Quarter.  E First you're anxious to get rid 'em, now you're antsy to upgrade 'em?a  + Do you want it now or do you want it right?e   -- David J. Dachterai dba DJE Systemsr http://www.djesys.com/  : Unofficial Affordable OpenVMS Home Page and Message Board: http://www.djesys.com/vms/soho/r  F This *IS* an OpenVMS-related newsgroup. So, a certain bias in postings is to be expected.  @ Feel free to exercise your rights of free speech and expression.  F However, attacks against individual posters, or groups of posters, are strongly discouraged.    ------------------------------  # Date: Sun, 03 Dec 2000 16:08:13 GMT 8 From: "Volckaerts, Tommy" <Tommy.Volckaerts@Advalvas.be>) Subject: Re: OpenVMS 7.3 - The right dates6 Message-ID: <NduW5.119$gp2.2973@nreader1.kpnqwest.net>  G OpenVMS 7.3 wil be released in March 2001 followed by 7.3.1 (which willJC include updates that were not ready to be put in 7.3) in Fall 2001.m  # Just had a training on the subject.r    6 <fabio_compaq@ep-bc.petrobras.com.br> wrote in messageF news:OF87DCAD20.37E868EA-ON032569A8.006203C7@ep-bc.petrobras.com.br...H > Do you know what date the OVMS 7.3 will be release ? Jan, Feb or Mar ?2 > The online documentation just say First Quarter. >0 >1
 > Regards, >  > FC >  >    ------------------------------  % Date: Sun, 03 Dec 2000 10:44:39 +0100i  From: Paul Sture <paul@sture.ch>  Subject: Re: SW Raid 310 and VMS+ Message-ID: <VA.000001ad.228f7607@sture.ch>I  ; In article <90bk2k$lau$1@nnrp1.deja.com>, Uwe Zessin wrote:f   [snip]  @ > > > There is a new product (= costs money) for the most recent@ > > > controllers (HSZ70 and up), the SANworks Command Scripter:A > > >     http://www.compaq.com/products/sanworks/sanmgt/scs.htmld > >o- > > Thanks for the pointer. It requires SWCC.  > B > From reading the quickspecs I understand that it uses the SWCC's > _agent_ on the host system.e >r( Sorry, that's what I _should_ have said.  F > > > > Although there are undoubtedly some people who want to controlF > > > > their storage from a PC there are far more who want/need to beG > > > > able to connect directly from the VMS system to the controller.  > > >eH > > > My understanding - I haven't worked with the scripter - is that it > > > offers both. > >e8 > > Which raises the question: "Both at the same time?". > B > You mean issuing commands from a VMS system and a management PC? >-  K I was thinking of that yes, but also more than one person having a look at eF the same time, from whatever system. IIRC HSZTERM will only allow one ' session at a time on a given controllerd  J > I am not sure. It might be possible that the agent[*] serializes access, > anyone knows for sure? > C > [*] There is only one agent allowed to have access to the storagee >  subsystem at a time.e >    ___ 
 Paul Sture Switzerlandc   ------------------------------  % Date: Sun, 03 Dec 2000 12:31:12 -0600D7 From: "David J. Dachtera" <djesys.nospam@earthlink.net>f  Subject: Re: SW Raid 310 and VMS- Message-ID: <3A2A9170.B7D49F5A@earthlink.net>/   Paul Sture wrote:n > [snip]L > I was thinking of that yes, but also more than one person having a look atG > the same time, from whatever system. IIRC HSZTERM will only allow onet) > session at a time on a given controllero  G ...as is the case with SET HOST/HSC and /DUP not to mention NCP CONNECT H or reverse-TELNET to the remote console port of a terminal server or the like.:  C I believe Cisco's IOS allows for multiple remote sessions, but this8+ seems to be the exception and not the rule.    -- G David J. Dachterad dba DJE Systemst http://www.djesys.com/  : Unofficial Affordable OpenVMS Home Page and Message Board: http://www.djesys.com/vms/soho/r  F This *IS* an OpenVMS-related newsgroup. So, a certain bias in postings is to be expected.  @ Feel free to exercise your rights of free speech and expression.  F However, attacks against individual posters, or groups of posters, are strongly discouraged.a   ------------------------------  # Date: Sun, 03 Dec 2000 15:28:59 GMTZ) From: "Neil Rieck" <n.rieck@sympatico.ca>d! Subject: TCPware/Purveyor Problemb; Message-ID: <%EtW5.39476$2A2.1896685@news20.bellglobal.com>b   Folks,  K I've got a problem enabling a feature in Purveyor 2.1 with TCPware 5.4-3 on  OpenVMSwE 7.2 and require some help from someone who's been here before because- Process-H Software no longer supports this product. (BTW, I haven't contacted them about this; yet...)o   What I've Done So Farj ================K 1. I'm trying to enable SYSUAF based user authentication (we have 150 usersn and want-     them to use their own id's and passwords)lC 2. I've added a second realm to Purveyor which references DLL file:SE     "purveyor_root:[PURVEYOR.SAMPLES.SCRIPTS.DLL]sample_auth_vax.dll"tA 3. I've added a secondary IP address to the machine and it works. H 4. I've added a virtual server which references the second realm and the secondary IP# 5. I've enabled logging and tracingP  
 My Problem	 =========tK I can't get Purveyor to bring up a username/password prompt unless I enable 	 an accessiG control list for the home directory of the second realm. I'm using filef= PURVEYOR$HIDDEN.GAC which contains the following single line:d$     Allow-user: *,SYSTEM,*,new_realm  J When I do this, I enter a "SYSUAF valid" username/password but my login is bounced:- ONLY by the rule for the access control list.o  I Inspecting the log files proves that the DLL is working and the SYSUAF is  being testedI because entering a bad username/password pair fails authentication in the  log but enteringI a valid username/password passed in the log. However, the rule for access  control list9 PURVEYOR$HIDDEN.GAC fires and the page access is bounced.e   Question ======F Does anyone know how to bring up a username/password prompt without an accessD control list. I've gone over the manuals a dozen times. Am I missing something here?.  
 Neil Rieck Bell-ICS, Bell Canada  mailto:neil.rieck@bell.ca  mailto:n.rieck@sympatico.ca    ------------------------------  $ Date: Sun, 3 Dec 2000 17:55:21 +01000 From: "Taki Pioy" <nospam@localhost.spamwarn.zz>$ Subject: Two hosts sharing RA system4 Message-ID: <nYuW5.2372$tm.8369@nntpserver.swip.net>  ? Has anyone managed to configure and run sharing a RA450 storage > system, with one HSZ50 controller, between two Alphaserver/VMSC non-clustered hosts? I'm going to use this during an "upgrade" only 6 for a month or two, but still for production purposes.  .               [AS4000]    [HSZ50]      [DS20E]# scsi bus       *--------*---------*m  C  - I guess the hsz50 will need some type of Y connector to the bus?-  E  - The external bus is wide. How many devices(targets?) can the hsz50iA "provide" and the hosts address? The RA450 will be smothered withe4 disks, and (at least) 10 raid-arrays will be set up.  B  - The two hosts should share the storage system, but not internalA devices. Unfortunately, the hsz50 doesn't support altering device,@ visibility. Is there some other way(s) to control device access?B (e.g. to disable mounting same array in both hosts simultaneously)  4 Has anyone used this before? Problems and successes?& I'd be happy to hear about them... :-)   /Fad> (these are of course my own, possibly flawed, interpretations.A hopefully someone will point out and correct any mistakes herein)    ------------------------------  # Date: Sun, 03 Dec 2000 17:53:31 GMTo7 From: "David J. Dachtera" <djesys.nospam@earthlink.net>M( Subject: Re: Two hosts sharing RA system- Message-ID: <3A2A8B40.FEEE484D@earthlink.net>d   Taki Pioy wrote: > A > Has anyone managed to configure and run sharing a RA450 storage @ > system, with one HSZ50 controller, between two Alphaserver/VMSE > non-clustered hosts? I'm going to use this during an "upgrade" onlyg8 > for a month or two, but still for production purposes. > 0 >               [AS4000]    [HSZ50]      [DS20E]% > scsi bus       *--------*---------*  > E >  - I guess the hsz50 will need some type of Y connector to the bus?  > G >  - The external bus is wide. How many devices(targets?) can the hsz50]C > "provide" and the hosts address? The RA450 will be smothered with 6 > disks, and (at least) 10 raid-arrays will be set up. > D >  - The two hosts should share the storage system, but not internalC > devices. Unfortunately, the hsz50 doesn't support altering deviceRB > visibility. Is there some other way(s) to control device access?D > (e.g. to disable mounting same array in both hosts simultaneously) > 6 > Has anyone used this before? Problems and successes?( > I'd be happy to hear about them... :-)  @ There was another thread this past week (I believe) where it wasC mentioned that some SCSI controllers used in DS20s (I think) do notjD support SCSI clustering. Beyond that, I don't think shared SCSI is a# real good idea, but that's just me.h   FWIW...t   -- 0 David J. Dachteraj dba DJE Systems  http://www.djesys.com/  : Unofficial Affordable OpenVMS Home Page and Message Board: http://www.djesys.com/vms/soho/s  F This *IS* an OpenVMS-related newsgroup. So, a certain bias in postings is to be expected.  @ Feel free to exercise your rights of free speech and expression.  F However, attacks against individual posters, or groups of posters, are strongly discouraged.    ------------------------------   Date: 3 Dec 2000 07:10:46 GMTo- From: djweath@attglobal.net (Dave Weatherall)h Subject: Re: VMS vs. Tru64 Unixr5 Message-ID: <DTiotGxQ0bj6-pn2-ztUIfd9rpkjC@localhost>.  = On Sat, 2 Dec 2000 00:03:09, Ray <lists@aik.tec.sc.us> wrote:    > > ' > > VMS or Unix?  Thanks for your help!  > >  > M > One thing to consider is that Tru64 has an 8 character username limitation.2  C Only people with names longer than 8 characters really notice that - problem :-)-  -4 Cheers - Dave  - [Weather(all). (Solaris (ugh)/VMS)]   ------------------------------   End of INFO-VAX 2000.675 ************************