1 INFO-VAX	Wed, 13 Dec 2000	Volume 2000 : Issue 694       Contents: ADV: Search Engine Registration  ADV: Search Engine Registration = Ages of OSs was: It's 20 years since I first logged onto VMS!  DCPS flag page format  Re: DCPS flag page format  Re: DCPS flag page format  Re: Email alias on DEC TCP/IP   Re: GCC availablility on VMS/VAX1 Re: HP Device Control Library (was Re: TLB Files) 0 Re: It's 20 years since I first logged onto VMS!* Re: Mouse hang: AlphaStation 1000A VMS 6.2 Re: New OpenVMS Education site/ New scriptable FTP client NOT available for VMS : Re: OpenVMS 6.0 reboots when I type "help" on remote login PCL to HTML . Preventing Mail Open (3rd party) Relays in VMS2 RE: Preventing Mail Open (3rd party) Relays in VMS2 Re: Preventing Mail Open (3rd party) Relays in VMS2 RE: Preventing Mail Open (3rd party) Relays in VMS Sort for DIR command Re: Sun Cluster  Re: Sun Cluster  Re: Sun Cluster  Re: Sun Cluster  Re: Sun Cluster  Supervisor Series on Alpha Re: Supervisor Series on Alpha Re: Supervisor Series on Alpha	 TLB Files 
 Re: TLB Files 
 Re: TLB Files  Re: VMS vs. Tru64 Unix  F ----------------------------------------------------------------------  % Date: Thu, 14 Dec 2000 00:44:37 +0800  From: mb898@cyberinbox.com( Subject: ADV: Search Engine Registration* Message-ID: <"200012131644.AAA12914"@web2>   Removal instructions below.   # I saw your listing on the internet.   % I work for a company that specializes # in getting clients web sites listed ! as close to the top of the major   search engines as possible.   # Our fee is only $29.95 per month to ! submit your site at least twice a ! month to over 350 search engines   and directories.  $ To get started and put your web site$ in the fast lane, call our toll free
 number below.      Mike Bender  888-532-8842    & To be removed call: 888-800-6339 X1377   ------------------------------  % Date: Thu, 14 Dec 2000 00:44:36 +0800  From: mb898@cyberinbox.com( Subject: ADV: Search Engine Registration* Message-ID: <"200012131644.AAA12912"@web2>   Removal instructions below.   # I saw your listing on the internet.   % I work for a company that specializes # in getting clients web sites listed ! as close to the top of the major   search engines as possible.   # Our fee is only $29.95 per month to ! submit your site at least twice a ! month to over 350 search engines   and directories.  $ To get started and put your web site$ in the fast lane, call our toll free
 number below.      Mike Bender  888-532-8842    & To be removed call: 888-800-6339 X1377   ------------------------------    Date: 13 Dec 2000 04:43:31 +0800, From: Paul Repacholi <prep@prep.synonet.com>F Subject: Ages of OSs was: It's 20 years since I first logged onto VMS!0 Message-ID: <87k895xte4.fsf@k9.prep.synonet.com>  ( Rudolf Wingert <win@fom.fgan.de> writes:   > Hello, > K > I do work also 21 years with VMS/OpenVMS. Starting with V1.7, VMS was the J > stablest system I have ever seen. But it did not get the Awards. OpenVMSG > is real good. They most problems I did see where the foreign products I > (disk, tapes, network). I hope that OpenVMS will live additional years, I > so that we can celebrate the 50th birthday of VMS. Additional question: 6 > when will VMS become 25 years old (later then UNIX)?  C Well, if you use the conservative 78 date, just over 2 years to go. 9 Unix, is alas, 'over the hill'. Its 30th was 3 years ago.    --  < Paul Repacholi                               1 Crescent Rd.,7 +61 (08) 9257-1001                           Kalamunda. @                                              West Australia 6076. Raw, Cooked or Well-done, it's all half baked.   ------------------------------  % Date: Tue, 12 Dec 2000 15:38:48 -0500 0 From: Paul Anderson <paul.r.anderson@compaq.com> Subject: DCPS flag page formatC Message-ID: <paul.r.anderson-22FFF9.15384812122000@news.compaq.com>   G While looking at a DCPS flag page recently, it occurred to me that the  F node and username format is in "DECnet" format; that is, NODE::USER.  D This is independent of the protocol used to print the job:  DECnet, 3 TCP/IP, LAT, AppleTalk or direct serial connection.   C Interestingly, PrintServer printers went the other way and started  I displaying the "USER@NODE" format on their front panel when they started  9 supporting TCP/IP even if the connection was over DECnet.   C Would anyone like the ability to choose the format of the node and  I username on the DCPS flag page?  For example, to see "user@node" instead  I of NODE::USER?  Would you like to see this consistent on all jobs on the  6 system or vary by network protocol or user preference?  I I'm not saying we're going to change anything, but I'd like to know what  
 you think.   Paul   --  ,    Paul Anderson, OpenVMS Engineering (DCPS),    Compaq Computer Corporation, Littleton MA   ------------------------------  # Date: Tue, 12 Dec 2000 22:16:42 GMT = From: system@SendSpamHere.ORG (Brian Schenkenberger, VAXman-) " Subject: Re: DCPS flag page format0 Message-ID: <009F47E7.C25823D2@SendSpamHere.ORG>  v In article <paul.r.anderson-22FFF9.15384812122000@news.compaq.com>, Paul Anderson <paul.r.anderson@compaq.com> writes:H >While looking at a DCPS flag page recently, it occurred to me that the G >node and username format is in "DECnet" format; that is, NODE::USER.   E >This is independent of the protocol used to print the job:  DECnet,  4 >TCP/IP, LAT, AppleTalk or direct serial connection. > D >Interestingly, PrintServer printers went the other way and started J >displaying the "USER@NODE" format on their front panel when they started : >supporting TCP/IP even if the connection was over DECnet. > D >Would anyone like the ability to choose the format of the node and J >username on the DCPS flag page?  For example, to see "user@node" instead J >of NODE::USER?  Would you like to see this consistent on all jobs on the 7 >system or vary by network protocol or user preference?  > J >I'm not saying we're going to change anything, but I'd like to know what  >you think.  >  >Paul  >  >-- - >   Paul Anderson, OpenVMS Engineering (DCPS) - >   Compaq Computer Corporation, Littleton MA   H That's not all that important to me but I would like to see the filename* case preserved when printing "LIST" files.   --O VAXman- OpenVMS APE certification number: AAA-0001     VAXman(at)TMESIS(dot)COM              O city, n., 1. a place where trees are cut down and streets are named after them.    ------------------------------  % Date: Tue, 12 Dec 2000 17:40:25 -0500 * From: Chuck Chopp <ChuckChopp@rtfmcsi.com>" Subject: Re: DCPS flag page format+ Message-ID: <3A36A959.4B7E5AAD@rtfmcsi.com>    Paul Anderson wrote:  H > While looking at a DCPS flag page recently, it occurred to me that theF > node and username format is in "DECnet" format; that is, NODE::USER.E > This is independent of the protocol used to print the job:  DECnet, 5 > TCP/IP, LAT, AppleTalk or direct serial connection.  > D > Interestingly, PrintServer printers went the other way and startedJ > displaying the "USER@NODE" format on their front panel when they started; > supporting TCP/IP even if the connection was over DECnet.  > D > Would anyone like the ability to choose the format of the node andJ > username on the DCPS flag page?  For example, to see "user@node" insteadJ > of NODE::USER?  Would you like to see this consistent on all jobs on the8 > system or vary by network protocol or user preference? > J > I'm not saying we're going to change anything, but I'd like to know what > you think. >  > Paul >  > --. >    Paul Anderson, OpenVMS Engineering (DCPS). >    Compaq Computer Corporation, Littleton MA  K OK, you stuck your head up and asked for input...  That's a dangerous thing E to do.  Here's my chance to beg, wheedle, cajole and otherwise try to L influence you on some printing related issues that have bugged me for a long time.      What you asked for:   G Making the DCPS flag page user/node output format customizable would be I helpful from a purely nit-pickish point of view (which I sometimes have).      What I want:  I In general, I'd like to see that flag pages have more flexibility to them F for *ALL* print symbionts.  Specifically, I want to be able to specifyL separate setup modules for the flag page that may be different from the restI of the print job.  I would also like to be able to design my flag pages & J burst pages and be able to select them on a per queue basis.  Right now, IK have to deal with many varieties of printers that are being printed to from B OpenVMS via DCPS (raw IP), the UCX LPD symbiont and the UCX TelnetI symbiont.  The output page format varies widely as does the type of paper L stock on these printers and the archaic 132 column wide flag/burst page justK is not suitable for general use on all of these printers & their associated  formats.  D The existing PSM$ANNOUNCE logical is not sufficient at this time forL customization of the flag page.  I really need fully customizable flag pagesK for each of my print queues.  I'd like to be able to store my flag pages as L text files containing variable names that would get their values substitutedJ when the print job is printed.  Common stuff like the node name, username,L queue name, date/time, value of the "/NOTE=" qualifier, file name, job name,L etc... are what I would expect to have as variables to be substituted on theL banner page at print time.  I could then define my flag pages and store themI on disk.  Perhaps the flag pages could even be stored in a device control L library with a specific module name that the symbiont would look for and useI if it was found.  That way, the print queue's definition would be able to H specify a flag module that the symbiont could substitute for the defaultL flag page that normally gets printed.  I would also expect burst pages to be customizable, too.  J I would hope that this would appear as a feature in an upgraded version ofK OpenVMS (both Alpha and VAX versions are critical).  I would also hope that G this enhanced functionality would appear in a patch, too, so that older % versions of OpenVMS could be updated.   L I would expect that this enhancement would be implemented in the basic printA symbiont code that is shared by symbionts built using the PSM$*() L functions.  What I don't remember is whether or not the LATSYM symbiont, theK UCX LPD symbiont, the UCX Telnet symbiont and DCPS symbiont all make use of J the same shared code or if each one was built as a fully independent printE symbiont which would need to be separately modified to implement this  functionality, too.     B Am I out on patrol with the ozone rangers here, or is this type ofA enhancement something that other folks would be able to use, too?      -- Chuck Chopp   8 ChuckChopp@rtfmcsi.com            http://www.rtfmcsi.com0                                   ICQ # 22321532@ RTFM Consulting Services Inc.     864 801 2795 voice & voicemail2 103 Autumn Hill Road              864 801 2774 fax4 Greer, SC  29651                  800 774 0718 pager7                                   8007740718@skytel.com    ------------------------------   Date: 12 Dec 2000 20:39:21 GMT& From: Cthulhu <cthulhu@kadath.deep.it>& Subject: Re: Email alias on DEC TCP/IP( Message-ID: <9162dp$rf$1@kadath.deep.it>  ( Carl Perkins <carl@gerg.tamu.edu> wrote:  ' > MAIL> SET FORWARD/USER=ALIAS REALUSER   # Thanks to all, this is what I need!    	aliasingly, 	   Cthulhu    --    G        Ph'nglui mglw'nafh Cthulhu http://www.rlyeh.it wgah'nagl fhtgan! # 		        <cthulhu at rlyeh dot it>    ------------------------------  % Date: Tue, 12 Dec 2000 17:42:21 -0600 7 From: "David J. Dachtera" <djesys.nospam@earthlink.net> ) Subject: Re: GCC availablility on VMS/VAX - Message-ID: <3A36B7DD.EA34666C@earthlink.net>    Maulis Adam wrote: > M > In article <915duh$eda$1@nnrp1.deja.com>, smh <s_p_a_m@my-deja.com> writes: J > > I need a binary for gcc on VAX/VMX but can't find anything more recentG > > than 2.7.1.  Since the project is C++ I need a more recent version.  > > > There is a easy-to-install part-of-gnat version of GCC 2.8.1C > Gnat created by Ada Core Technologies (www.gnat.com) kit avaiable 0 > from  ftp://cs.nyu.edu/pub/gnat/3.12p/openvms/ > 9 > This is a VMSinstal -able fomrat of gnat, gcc, make ...  > 
 > Regards,
 > Adam Maulis  > + > We instal and use well on ES40 / VMS7.2-1   3 ...except that he specifically requested VMS/ *VAX*   E Also, from looking at the kit, it's hard to tell - without attempting E and install - whether GCC can be installed without everything else in  the kit.   --   David J. Dachtera  dba DJE Systems  http://www.djesys.com/  : Unofficial Affordable OpenVMS Home Page and Message Board: http://www.djesys.com/vms/soho/   F This *IS* an OpenVMS-related newsgroup. So, a certain bias in postings is to be expected.  @ Feel free to exercise your rights of free speech and expression.  F However, attacks against individual posters, or groups of posters, are strongly discouraged.    ------------------------------   Date: 12 Dec 2000 22:21:35 GMT2 From: hoffman@xdelta.zko.dec.nospam (Hoff Hoffman): Subject: Re: HP Device Control Library (was Re: TLB Files)5 Message-ID: <9168df$h0$1@mailint03.im.hou.compaq.com>   h In article <3a367396$0$22337@wodc7nh1.news.uu.net>, "Jason McCormick" <jason.mccormick@lexi.com> writes:K :Can anyone please tell me how to either find or create TLB files for an HP  :printer?     C   You are interested in a device control library specific to the HP F   printer.  (A "TLB" is a generic text library on OpenVMS, and can be G   used for a variety of purposes.)  Unfortunately, these printers tend  :   to vary (widely) in their requirements and capabilities.  E   Baseline instructions for creating a device control library are in  D   the OpenVMS Ask The Wizard area topics 1020 and 5271, among other C   topics...  See http://www.openvms.compaq.com/wizard/  (And please C   don't expect the OpenVMS Wizard to have a device control library     for j-random printer aroubd.)   C   The remainder may well have to originate from your own reading of C   the printer documentation, possibly borrowing from device control "   libraries for other HP printers.  ? :...now I need to hook up a new HP 8150DN printer to the VAX... 4 :...I want to use PostScript and not PCL commands.    F   For Postscript, seriously consider the use of the DCPS package.  TheH   DCPS package supports a variety of printers, and specifically targets    Postscript printers.  J   By your cross-posting, I will assume Multinet and not TCP/IP Services.  K   When posting, you will want to mention the OpenVMS version and platform,  6   and similar detail on the relevent layered products.  L   The device control library instructions at the ATW area target the TCP/IP I   Services product, but the behaviour and the interface will probably be  2   the same for Multinet for your current purposes.  L   And please don't apoligize for being a newbie.  Everybody once was.  (Now K   whether or not that arcana is actually remembered is another issue... :-)   N  --------------------------- pure personal opinion ---------------------------L    Hoff (Stephen) Hoffman   OpenVMS Engineering   hoffman#xdelta.zko.dec.com   ------------------------------  # Date: Tue, 12 Dec 2000 20:43:49 GMT  From: mukh_sue@my-deja.com9 Subject: Re: It's 20 years since I first logged onto VMS! ) Message-ID: <9162m3$1r0$1@nnrp1.deja.com>    Congratulations, Paul!  E You are right Sue.  If OpenVMS had to be rebooted everyday (more than C once sometimes) twenty years ago, I do not think anybody would have F accepted it.  Unfortunately time has proved that marketing strategy is% more important than quality of an OS!    Sucharita Mukhopadhyay
 Dean of IS Lincoln Memorial University 6 In article <912rpu$5r6$1@mailint03.im.hou.compaq.com>,8   "Sue Skonetski" <susan.skonetski@compaq.nospam> wrote: > Paul,  > ( > Congratulations!  What were you doing? > , > A lot has changed in 20 years of computing > C > Do you realise that 20 years ago people would not have accepted a  system, > that has to be re-booted on a daily basis. > G > We still have some of the engineers that were here 20 years ago still 	 > coding.  >  > Best Regards,  >  > Sue  > ! > Paul Sture wrote in message ...oH > >If I've got my dates right, on 8-DEC-1980, I logged into my first VMS
 > >system. > >___
 > >Paul Stureg > >Switzerland > >0 >a >s     Sent via Deja.como http://www.deja.com/   ------------------------------   Date: 12 Dec 2000 18:47:14 GMT2 From: hoffman@xdelta.zko.dec.nospam (Hoff Hoffman)3 Subject: Re: Mouse hang: AlphaStation 1000A VMS 6.2B6 Message-ID: <915rri$que$1@mailint03.im.hou.compaq.com>  d In article <915oth$6t1t$1@lead.zk3.dec.com>, "Fred Kleinsorge" <kleinsorge@star.zko.dec.com> writes:  L :When things eventually migrate to USB, then it will truly be hot-pluggable.  H   The plug gets hot because of a current overflow on the USB, right? :-)  J   Seriously, USB will fix some problems.  I am also certain that USB will I   also bring along its share of new and unusual problems and interesting f)   anomolies -- I've already seen a few...l  N  --------------------------- pure personal opinion ---------------------------L    Hoff (Stephen) Hoffman   OpenVMS Engineering   hoffman#xdelta.zko.dec.com   ------------------------------  % Date: Tue, 12 Dec 2000 15:01:47 -0800-! From: Shane.F.Smith@Healthnet.com-' Subject: Re: New OpenVMS Education siteeD Message-ID: <OF5B5643B9.A0612EFF-ON882569B3.007E5EF7@foundation.com>  I Alan: At the moment you have to get put on the list for posters, etc. Sue ? Skonetski DOES accept third party nominations, and likes to get = chequebook-level management on the list. Send her some names!t   Shane           9 Alan Greig <agreig@my-deja.com> on 12/12/2000 03:38:36 AM    To:   Info-VAX@Mvb.Saic.Comh cc:   ( Subject:  Re: New OpenVMS Education site    E On 11 Dec 2000 18:02:11 GMT, david20@alpha2.mdx.ac.uk (D.Webb) wrote:     G >Though in our case it's now mostly Student web pages, Student mail ande Oracle.3E >A little bit of comparative operating systems plus a few souls still-	 compiling-
 >programs.H >Computer science students tend to be more interested in Unix, Linux and >Microsoft.    David,  = Out of curiousity have you had any direct contact from CompaqtD attempting to promote VMS? Preferably direct site visits. Do you get? the flood of VMS posters and if so did you have to specificallys register for it?  B I know in six years working at Abertay Uni we saw almost no directC promotion of VMS. Just wondered if this had changed. It's my belief > that Compaq must approach remaining educational sites with any. academic VMS systems and build confidence now.   >David Webb  >VMS and Unix team leader- >CCSS  >Middlesex University8   --
 Alan Greig   ------------------------------   Date: 12 Dec 2000 22:41:39 GMT0 From: fdc@watsun.cc.columbia.edu (Frank da Cruz)8 Subject: New scriptable FTP client NOT available for VMS5 Message-ID: <9169j3$qrn$1@newsmaster.cc.columbia.edu>.  C I posted the following announcement to a bunch of UNIX newsgroups aoE short while ago.  The same client could be adapted to VMS by somebody E who knows what they're doing (i.e. who knows their way around DEC andVD VAX C, RMS and VMS APIs, Multinet, UCX, and friends, and most of allA has some clue as to what an FTP client should do with each of theiA many and varied VMS file formats when sending to / receiving from.F (a) a VMS server and (b) a non-VMS server).  If anybody is interested, let me know.   - Franke  0 From: fdc@watsun.cc.columbia.edu (Frank da Cruz)< Subject: New scriptable secure FTP client available for UNIX' Followup-To: comp.protocols.kermit.misc  Date: 12 Dec 2000 22:12:52 GMT! Organization: Columbia University   ' A new FTP client is available for UNIX:   *   http://www.columbia.edu/kermit/ftpclient  ! It offers the following features:e  8  . Optional Kerberos 4 and 5, SSL/TLS, and SRP security.0  . A built-in scripting language for automation.0  . Character-set translation, including Unicode.8  . Automatic text/binary mode switching (PUT/MPUT only).L  . Flexible file selection (sizes, dates, lists, patterns, exception lists).  . Update and recovery modes.o8  . Preservation of file permissions (Unix-to-Unix only).=  . Recursive directory-tree transfers, even across platforms. @  . File collision options (backup, rename, update, reject, etc).B  . Uses passive mode by default to minimize blockage by firewalls.I  . Friendly interactive command interface (keyword and filename menus andiG    completion on demand; command recall, macros, files, and shortcuts).hI  . Ability to specify a complete session on the shell command line, or by M    an FTP URL, without using scripts, interactive commands, or command files.e9  . Configurable logging, debugging, and feedback options.y  * The new FTP client is called C-Kermit 7.1:  *   http://www.columbia.edu/kermit/ck71.html  L Yes, it's the same C-Kermit program that makes serial and Telnet connectionsL -- now it can make FTP connections too.  And for that matter also Rlogin and$ HTTP (and on some platforms X.25)...  G It has been built and tested successfully so far on various releases ofeH Linux (Red Hat, Slackware, Suse, Debian), FreeBSD, NetBSD, OpenBSD, AIX,I HP-UX, IRIX, Solaris, SunOS, QNX, SINIX, Unixware, SCO OSR5, Tru64, NeXT,0L DG/UX, SV/68, SV/88, and even 4.3BSD on the VAX, and should be buildable andG usable on any other version of UNIX that has a C compiler and a sockets  library.  K This not a final release -- it's the first Alpha-test release.  If you haveo6 trouble with it, questions, or comments, send them to:     kermit-support@columbia.edul  
 Frank da Cruz  The Kermit Project Columbia University    ------------------------------  # Date: Tue, 12 Dec 2000 19:20:26 GMTr+ From: genkai wa doko da <gauze@my-deja.com>/C Subject: Re: OpenVMS 6.0 reboots when I type "help" on remote logine) Message-ID: <915tpi$tef$1@nnrp1.deja.com>n  6 In article <915imi$onq$1@mailint03.im.hou.compaq.com>,&   hoffman@xdelta.zko.dec.nospam wrote: >d= > In article <913r83$8p5$1@nnrp1.deja.com>, genkai wa doko dar <gauze@my-deja.com> writes:uH > : I pretty much summed up what happens in the subject, if I login withF > :telnet or rlogin and try to use the help command the system crashes and,H > :reboots. Doing the same on my vt220 clone directly connected it works > :fine. >n@ >   Information on the system crash itself would be useful.  For	 starters,vE >   the CLUE CRASH information, or at least the bugcheck code and the  stack  >   at the time of the failure.)  H the other 2 posters seem to know of this making it a known bug in UCX, IG could use a reading over of int crash anyway I suppose, anal/crash left13 me scratching my head over which file it feed it...h     > ..H > :A quick search on Google on 'INVETHERNAM' returns 0 pages which leads meH > :to believe I have some kind of odd problem, possibly hardware for all Ie > :know. >r) >   Could be hardware, could be software.m  E I did notice test 1 (on bootup during the F...~1 'count down') failedt; before but running test 1 by itself always seems to work...A   >aC > :the hardware involved is a VAXstation 3100/m30 using AUI for thei networkt% > :deal, not that I guess it matters.g >e? >   Exactly how big is your VAXstation 3100 series system disk?p  G 120M and to address what you say below I am going to put a 426M disk inlE it soonish and upgrade to ovms v7.2, hopefully this Saturday ... This B should cure one problem at least. I'm sure I'll be back with other queries.  
 thanks to alle  ciaoc   brian    >lG >   I'd encourage a move to current OpenVMS VAX -- V7.2.  Since you are E >   already at V6.0, you should have little problem moving forward to  the   >   current OpenVMS VAX release. > E >   What TCP/IP Services version?  (V4.2 with current ECO is probablyo then >   best choice here.) >t4 >  --------------------------- pure personal opinion ---------------------------m1 >    Hoff (Stephen) Hoffman   OpenVMS Engineeringt hoffman#xdelta.zko.dec.com >i >r   --9 RCS/RI, Retro Computing Society: http://www.osfn.org/rcs/u0 RIFUG, RI Free Unix Group: http://www.rifug.org/+ Dropdead, my band: http://www.dropdead.org/u0 my videogame stuff: http://www.gloom.org/~gauze/     Sent via Deja.com  http://www.deja.com/   ------------------------------  # Date: Wed, 13 Dec 2000 04:30:26 GMT - From: "Dave Pampreen" <davepampreen@home.com>  Subject: PCL to HTML> Message-ID: <CXCZ5.143800$hD4.36589344@news1.rdc1.mi.home.com>  K Does anyone know how to convert a PCL document to HTML?    I have a quite aaE few of these I'd like to convert.  I don't mind if I go into multipleiH conversions (ie. PCL to X, X to HTML)   I  just need something reliable.     Dave   ------------------------------  # Date: Wed, 13 Dec 2000 08:26:06 GMT > From: Jeremy Karl Cockcroft <cockcroft@gordon.cryst.bbk.ac.uk>7 Subject: Preventing Mail Open (3rd party) Relays in VMSo) Message-ID: <3A367BCD.360922F5@bbk.ac.uk>a  @ For a DEC Alpha system running VMS6.2 and UCX4.2, the documented> way of preventing relayed email (in particular SPAM mail) from@ being bounced off ones system is to use the configuration option
 NORELAY, i.e. (       UCX SET CONFIG SMTP/OPTION=NORELAY- which I think may be the default in any case.   6 However, even the simple telnet tests available at URL+       http://maps.vix.com/tsi//ar-test.htmlnF (see within, 3rd paragraph down) show the above option is insufficientB for the VMS/UCX configuration just described. As an example of the) output from the above, I had for example:b
    <<< 250 OKn       :Relay test: #Test 13 >                >>> mail from: <spamtest@my-VMSalpha.....ac.uk>8    <<< 250 <spamtest@my-VMSalpha.....ac.uk>... Sender OK6    >>> rcpt to: <"nobody@mail-abuse.org"@[192.84.*.*]>D    <<< 250 < <"nobody@mail-abuse.org"@[192.84.*.*]>>... Recipient OK    >>> QUITiC where the IP address and name of the computer have been edited out!u  B Further extensive tests provided by the UK Academic Network group B showed that the system was open to 3rd party relaying. I have beenB told that if I still want to run an SMTP server on my VMS system, = I must block/stop the open relay problem (since this loopholeoB for SPAM email is no longer allowed for computers on the UK JANET 
 network).    Any suggestions? M  B I would also be interested to hear whether other configurations ofA VMS/UCX systems pass or fail the above tests. (Note VMS6.2/UCX4.0b? also failed so my immediate idea of upgrading to UCX4.2 didn't  7 solve the problem.) This problem was also posted to theoB VMS Compaq Wizard, but I have no reply from there either. Also are> there any other newsgroup/mailing list to which I should post  this query?o  $ Many thanks in advance for any help,      o Jeremy Karl Cockcrofti   ------------------------------  % Date: Tue, 12 Dec 2000 15:35:43 -0500h# From: John Vottero <John@MVPSI.com>t; Subject: RE: Preventing Mail Open (3rd party) Relays in VMS D Message-ID: <C15945A9D9EFCF11BA8B08002BBF1CCC0CD919@berry.mvpsi.com>  I Replace the UCX SMTP server with MX (see http://www.madgoat.com/) or wait6- until TCP/IP (formerly UCX) V5.1 is released.o   > -----Original Message-----G > From: Jeremy Karl Cockcroft [mailto:cockcroft@gordon.cryst.bbk.ac.uk] , > Sent: Wednesday, December 13, 2000 3:26 AM > To: Info-VAX@Mvb.Saic.Com 9 > Subject: Preventing Mail Open (3rd party) Relays in VMSt >  > B > For a DEC Alpha system running VMS6.2 and UCX4.2, the documented@ > way of preventing relayed email (in particular SPAM mail) fromB > being bounced off ones system is to use the configuration option > NORELAY, i.e.i* >       UCX SET CONFIG SMTP/OPTION=NORELAY/ > which I think may be the default in any case.n > 8 > However, even the simple telnet tests available at URL- >       http://maps.vix.com/tsi//ar-test.html0H > (see within, 3rd paragraph down) show the above option is insufficientD > for the VMS/UCX configuration just described. As an example of the+ > output from the above, I had for example:  >    <<< 250 OK< >       :Relay test: #Test 13 @ >                >>> mail from: <spamtest@my-VMSalpha.....ac.uk>: >    <<< 250 <spamtest@my-VMSalpha.....ac.uk>... Sender OK8 >    >>> rcpt to: <"nobody@mail-abuse.org"@[192.84.*.*]>F >    <<< 250 < <"nobody@mail-abuse.org"@[192.84.*.*]>>... Recipient OK
 >    >>> QUITdE > where the IP address and name of the computer have been edited out!e > D > Further extensive tests provided by the UK Academic Network group D > showed that the system was open to 3rd party relaying. I have beenD > told that if I still want to run an SMTP server on my VMS system, ? > I must block/stop the open relay problem (since this loopholelD > for SPAM email is no longer allowed for computers on the UK JANET  > network).  >  > Any suggestions? - > D > I would also be interested to hear whether other configurations ofC > VMS/UCX systems pass or fail the above tests. (Note VMS6.2/UCX4.0yA > also failed so my immediate idea of upgrading to UCX4.2 didn't e9 > solve the problem.) This problem was also posted to theeD > VMS Compaq Wizard, but I have no reply from there either. Also are@ > there any other newsgroup/mailing list to which I should post 
 > this query?  > & > Many thanks in advance for any help, >      2 > Jeremy Karl Cockcroft@ >    ------------------------------  + Date: Tue, 12 Dec 2000 18:56:02 -0200 (EDT)  From: becherini@vortex.ufrgs.br0; Subject: Re: Preventing Mail Open (3rd party) Relays in VMS3, Message-ID: <00121218560277@vortex.ufrgs.br>  : Received:	by vortex.ufrgs.br (V5.0A-1, OpenVMS V7.2 Alpha)+ From:		Fabio Becherini <becherini@ufrgs.br>H Reply-to:	<becherini@ufrgs.br>< Comments:	@vortex.ufrgs.br, vortex(46.451)::, psi%........::2 References:	BR, TCHE, UFRGS, CPD network, Cia-INFO- Organization:	Cia-INFO /DRS /CPD-UFRGS /UFRGSsO _______________________________________________________________________________s  @ . From: Jeremy Karl Cockcroft <cockcroft@gordon.cryst.bbk.ac.uk>9 . Subject: Preventing Mail Open (3rd party) Relays in VMS % . Date: Wed, 13 Dec 2000 08:26:06 GMTo . To: Info-VAX@Mvb.Saic.Comm . B . For a DEC Alpha system running VMS6.2 and UCX4.2, the documented@ . way of preventing relayed email (in particular SPAM mail) fromB . being bounced off ones system is to use the configuration option . NORELAY, i.e.e* .       UCX SET CONFIG SMTP/OPTION=NORELAY/ . which I think may be the default in any case.  . 8 . However, even the simple telnet tests available at URL- .       http://maps.vix.com/tsi//ar-test.htmlcH . (see within, 3rd paragraph down) show the above option is insufficientD . for the VMS/UCX configuration just described. As an example of the+ . output from the above, I had for example:y .    <<< 250 OKn .       :Relay test: #Test 13 @ .                >>> mail from: <spamtest@my-VMSalpha.....ac.uk>: .    <<< 250 <spamtest@my-VMSalpha.....ac.uk>... Sender OK8 .    >>> rcpt to: <"nobody@mail-abuse.org"@[192.84.*.*]>F .    <<< 250 < <"nobody@mail-abuse.org"@[192.84.*.*]>>... Recipient OK
 .    >>> QUITuE . where the IP address and name of the computer have been edited out!r . D . Further extensive tests provided by the UK Academic Network group D . showed that the system was open to 3rd party relaying. I have beenD . told that if I still want to run an SMTP server on my VMS system, ? . I must block/stop the open relay problem (since this loopholeoD . for SPAM email is no longer allowed for computers on the UK JANET  . network).  .  . Any suggestions? e . D . I would also be interested to hear whether other configurations ofC . VMS/UCX systems pass or fail the above tests. (Note VMS6.2/UCX4.0eA . also failed so my immediate idea of upgrading to UCX4.2 didn't S9 . solve the problem.) This problem was also posted to thewD . VMS Compaq Wizard, but I have no reply from there either. Also are@ . there any other newsgroup/mailing list to which I should post 
 . this query?  . & . Many thanks in advance for any help, .      c . Jeremy Karl Cockcroft      	Hi,   	Here we have:  9   DIGITAL TCP/IP Services for OpenVMS Alpha Version V5.0Ai1   on a AlphaServer 800 5/500 running OpenVMS V7.2i 	!, 	with the same problem, and no solution yet.  8 	Yes, if we have $$$, we can buy Multinet, PMDF, MX, etc   	But we don't have $$$ :(((c   	Our solution ?   # 	1. Wait for TCP/IP version 5.1 ...i   			and  - 	2. Use a Unix (bleargh) system with sendmaile 	   to do the job.  $ 	(But it is a Digital Unix server :)  , 	We have a filter in our firewall to port 25 	of the VMS systems.  $ 	In our DNS we have MX records like:  + 		VMSsystem	IN      A       123.123.123.123  		IN		MX	00	VMSsystem.bla.bla. 		IN		MX	10	UNIXsystem.bla.bla.d  ? 	The UNIXsystem.bla.bla receives mail send to VMSsystem.bla.bla4" 	and sends it to VMSsystem.bla.bla  ' 	Ridiculous, no ? (but it does the job)e   	But it hurts my VMSheart :(((  N  _____________________________________________________________________________O |                                                                             | O | Fabio Becherini                   System & Network Manager, Webmaster UFRGS | O | CPD-UFRGS                         Centro de Processamento de Dados da UFRGS |uO |                                   Universidade Federal do Rio Grande do Sul |aO |_____________________________________________________________________________| O |                                                                             |-O | INTERnet:  fabio.becherini@ufrgs.br              DECnet:  vortex::becherini |#O |_____________________________________________________________________________|:   ------------------------------   Date: 12 Dec 2000 23:30:14 GMT2 From: hoffman@xdelta.zko.dec.nospam (Hoff Hoffman); Subject: RE: Preventing Mail Open (3rd party) Relays in VMSn6 Message-ID: <916ce6$1mr$1@mailint03.im.hou.compaq.com>  j In article <C15945A9D9EFCF11BA8B08002BBF1CCC0CD919@berry.mvpsi.com>, John Vottero <John@MVPSI.com> writes:E From: Jeremy Karl Cockcroft [mailto:cockcroft@gordon.cryst.bbk.ac.uk]m* Sent: Wednesday, December 13, 2000 3:26 AM To: Info-VAX@Mvb.Saic.Comu7 Subject: Preventing Mail Open (3rd party) Relays in VMS0 :...) :> ...This problem was also posted to thew> :> VMS Compaq Wizard, but I have no reply from there either...  J   I have asked that the response over in the Ask The Wizard (ATW) area to J   this question be defered, based on the discussion here in the newsgroup.L   (ATW is intended to try to answer unique and unusual questions, and there G   are insufficient resources available to the ATW program to duplicate  J   discussions that are going on elsewhere -- discussions going on here or    at the CSC or elsewhere.)o  @   V5.0A has SMTP anti-relay features -- you can disable relay...C   V5.1 (in field test) has programmable SMTP anti-relay features...f  N  --------------------------- pure personal opinion ---------------------------L    Hoff (Stephen) Hoffman   OpenVMS Engineering   hoffman#xdelta.zko.dec.com   ------------------------------  % Date: Tue, 12 Dec 2000 14:29:25 -0800G* From: Ed Albert <cea7002@axe.humboldt.edu> Subject: Sort for DIR commandr0 Message-ID: <3A36A6C5.FFD558E0@axe.humboldt.edu>  D Anyone done a DCL to do sorted directories in VMS?  Would like to beE able to sort by various properties, like date/time, owner, extension,cF etc.  Thought that I would check here before I began doing my own ....   ------------------------------  % Date: Tue, 12 Dec 2000 16:25:48 -0600w# From: "Mark E. Levy" <mark@fsi.net>A Subject: Re: Sun Cluster/ Message-ID: <t3d9fdgmhchc10@corp.supernews.com>e  = "andrew harrison" <andrew.nospam@uk.sun.com> wrote in messagea$ news:3A34A6D0.744C8B50@uk.sun.com...  ? > Taken a beating, how quaint and what a wonderfull distortion.   G Distortion? Not quite. It seems to happen to you quite regularly around. here.a  C > A better description of the "beating" that I have supposedly beenl > subjectedoI > to would would be that I have been savaged by a sheep or even a herd ofa > sheep.  I Make up your (feeble) mind, Andrew. In your previous paragraph, you implywK that allegations as to your "beating" are incorrect, yet in this paragraph,OJ you admit that you've been "savaged." What I don't understand, however, isK why Sun customers (the "sheep") would want to beat up on you, unless you've I managed to upset them also with your wild claims about the reliability ofs Sun's products.d     --E ---------------------------------------------------------------------e Mark E. Levy, Presidenti" System Management Associates, Inc.! 888-291-5055 x202 (Illinois Only)c$ 847-291-1550 x202 (Outside Illinois) 847-291-3866 fax www.sysman-inc.com levy@sysman-inc.comvE ---------------------------------------------------------------------a   ------------------------------  % Date: Tue, 12 Dec 2000 20:59:21 -0500d' From: "Bill Todd" <billtodd@foo.mv.com>  Subject: Re: Sun Cluster( Message-ID: <916l1a$2c2$1@pyrite.mv.net>  > Fred Kleinsorge <kleinsorge@star.zko.dec.com> wrote in message& news:915p5r$6sn6$1@lead.zk3.dec.com... >i< > Bill Todd wrote in message <9143jh$11i$1@pyrite.mv.net>... > >l > >iK > >While not claiming more than anecdotal knowledge, my impression was thatiG > >Galaxy was set in motion (i.e., 'planned' to use my word above) well- beforeL > >the take-over.  So it hardly qualifies as an answer to my question (whichH > >was posed in the context of a previous note saying that the fact that > CompaqK > >hadn't killed already-planned VMS work when it took over hardly deserved, > >excessive praise).I > >S >r > H > I can tell you that it wasn't clear that Compaq would agree.  Nor were? > things far enough along that it could not easily been killed.o  I And I still fail to understand how this differs from exactly what I said: H it was indeed planned earlier, and Compaq simply didn't kill it.  UnlessG you're saying that the scope of Galaxy *expanded* significantly *after*p1 Compaq took over, which would be to their credit.o   - bill   ------------------------------  % Date: Tue, 12 Dec 2000 21:02:06 -05000' From: "Bill Todd" <billtodd@foo.mv.com>g Subject: Re: Sun Cluster( Message-ID: <916l6f$2c9$1@pyrite.mv.net>  > Fred Kleinsorge <kleinsorge@star.zko.dec.com> wrote in message& news:915pb5$6t74$1@lead.zk3.dec.com... >.! > Alan Greig wrote in message ...d > >sD > >Where I see the problem Fred is perhaps not with what the VMS andE > >Alpha teams are actually doing but how Compaq corporate publicizest? > >this. For example we are being flooded with red Compaq tubes H > >containing posters at a rate of around one per person per week. WhileI > >this is much better than previous VMS publicity even to VMS sites (andoH > >the tubes make great Jedi light sabres) there appears to have been noF > >change in general Compaq advertising and behaviour of Compaq sales.9 > >Its still all NT with occasional references to Tru-64.  > >t >n >oJ > IHMO it is unlikely that you will see a lot of VMS-specific general ad'sJ > (like TV ads), but you may see VMS as part of overall AlphaServer stuff.I > Most VMS stuff is targeted to specific markets, and specific customers.r  E The appearance is that 'specific customers' must be read as 'existing,$ customers'.  That's not encouraging.   - bill   ------------------------------  % Date: Tue, 12 Dec 2000 21:05:04 -0500d' From: "Bill Todd" <billtodd@foo.mv.com>e Subject: Re: Sun Cluster( Message-ID: <916lc2$2cm$1@pyrite.mv.net>  J <kparris@my-deja.com> wrote in message news:915j4t$jcc$1@nnrp1.deja.com..., > In article <3A34AB04.ABE2E2E1@uk.sun.com>,5 >   andrew harrison <andrew.nospam@uk.sun.com> wrote: 4 > > Who are the people in Compaq who are setting theC > > agenda in the industry. Who are the people in Compaq who peoplep	 > outside 0 > > Compaq and Compaq's customer base listen to. > >'F > > If you were putting together a list of speakers who a hall full of > non-H > > Compaq technical people would come to listen to who would you put on > the 
 > > list ????, >uI > Richie Lary certainly comes to mind here; he has been very prominent inAB > the storage field in general and most recently in SANs.  He justG > received a Lifetime Achievement Award from the I/O Technologies Forum-? > (see http://www.sresearch.com/itf/itf_2000/award/awards.htm).   H Since I was saddened that prior commitments made it impossible to attendH Richie's going-away party a few months ago, I'm not sure he's a suitableH candidate to put forward any more - unless you also want to include Dave Cutler, Gordon Bell, KO, et al.a   - bill   >/E > John Henning also comes to mind as a thought leader in the computer   > performance measurement field. >eI > Paul Massiglia was prominent in the field of RAID technology, and wrotecH > the RAID Advisory Board's RAIDbook (see http://www.raid-advisory.com).I > ----------------------------------------------------------------------- I > Keith Parris|Integrity Computing,Inc.|parris@decuserve.decus.org-nospamgH > VMS Consulting: Clusters, Perf., Alpha porting, Storage&I/O, Internals >i >r( > Sent via Deja.com http://www.deja.com/ > Before you buy.    ------------------------------  % Date: Tue, 12 Dec 2000 21:19:13 -0500o' From: "Bill Todd" <billtodd@foo.mv.com>a Subject: Re: Sun Cluster( Message-ID: <916m6g$305$1@pyrite.mv.net>  J <kparris@my-deja.com> wrote in message news:915i69$ibn$1@nnrp1.deja.com...* > In article <90rgq3$jkh$1@pyrite.mv.net>,, >   "Bill Todd" <billtodd@foo.mv.com> wrote:H > > Could you point out significant elements that weren't planned before > theT
 > > take-overY >hH > Compaq bought Digital in 1998.  Some significant new developments that > have sprung up since then:  E 'Sprung up' doesn't address what I said:  the question is whether thedI *plans* to do them sprouted after the take-over, or whether the take-overuK just didn't disrupt the plans that already existed.  I'll freely admit thatbK I don't know, but will voice my admittedly tenuous suspicions below (and of H course there could be other legitimate questions about the areas I don't know enough about to suspect).  D >  o  Shadowing Mini-Copy (to make it practical to use 3rd shadowset > members for snapshot backups)n >  o  eXtended File Cacheh  H Does this really post-date the take-over?  My impression was that it wasH originally planned for V7.2, which must have been set into motion before
 that time.  2 >  o  Fast_Path support for SCSI and Fibre Channel$ >  o  DECram in Galaxy shared memory  F This is so obvious that it's hard to believe it wasn't being looked at  shortly after Galaxy started up.  9 >  o  Significant locking performance improvements in RMSs  L Similar question as for XFC above, though I really have nothing other than a guess to go on.a  G >  o  Free new performance data collector to be shipped with VMS, and at7 > new (documented) performance API (cf. $GETSPI) in VMS. >  o  Free RTR with VMSo  $ Nice, but not a development feature.  D >  o  Complete turnaround in UCX code quality, features, and support  L If that's what I think it is, one could view this as maintenance (bug fixes), or consolidation (with the Tru64 code base).  I >  o  Much more support for Unixy stuff, in addition to DII/COE: Kerberoso > V5, Apache, Mozilla, Java < >  o  SDA extensions for tracing lock requests and spinlocks >s4 > Stuff that is coming that is farther out than 7.3: >  o  QIO Server  1 Hasn't that been floating around for a while now?a   >  o  Fast_Path for LANs= >  o  Fast_Path for Galaxy Shared Memory Cluster Interconnect-: >  o  Lock Manager data structures in Galaxy Shared Memory  J If this hasn't been planned since not long after Galaxy started up, I'd be
 surprised.  H I'm not trying to be exceptionally difficult, but as long as people keepH pointing to things that have obviously been in the pipeline for a while,K some of which I strongly suspect pre-date the take-over and others of which I may well do so, I'm going to keep questioning their ability to dispute myCI original statement that Compaq deserves at best faint praise for choosing L not to beat up VMS, and none at all for taking active measures to support it0 beyond the development plan that they inherited.   - bill  I > -----------------------------------------------------------------------gI > Keith Parris|Integrity Computing,Inc.|parris@decuserve.decus.org-nospamdH > VMS Consulting: Clusters, Perf., Alpha porting, Storage&I/O, Internals >  > ( > Sent via Deja.com http://www.deja.com/ > Before you buy.0   ------------------------------  % Date: Tue, 12 Dec 2000 22:45:14 +0100m9 From: "Michel Herrscher Consultant" <michel@herrscher.fr>a# Subject: Supervisor Series on Alpha % Message-ID: <91667d$7qg$1@wanadoo.fr>e   Hello VMS community,   [ fernch version follows]   N I am moving (at last) from my Microvax 3100/95 (VMS 7.1) to an Alpha DS10 (VMS 7.2-1 and patches...)   N I got all the software I used on the VAX on to the ALPHA except one I got fromI DECUS a long time ago whose name is Supervisor. It allows me to watch andh; interact with all my VTxxx or telnet emulators of my users.t  5  I am looking for the Alpha version or a replacement.? Thanks for your help.b   -- Michel HERRSCHER Consultantc mhc@herrscher.fr7 Tl : +33 (0)450 870 912       Fax : +33 (0)450 871 7416 Gsm : +33 (0)609 044 711   Version Franaise.  N Je suis en train de migrer de VAX  ALPHA. et je recherche la version Alpha duO programme DECUS : SUPERVISOR qui permet de voir et agir sur les terminaux VT ou  telnet de mes utilisateurs.l  O Est ce que vous pouvez m'aider  la trouver,  dfaut un soft de remplacement ?a   Merci de votre aide.   ------------------------------  # Date: Tue, 12 Dec 2000 22:14:43 GMT1= From: system@SendSpamHere.ORG (Brian Schenkenberger, VAXman-)b' Subject: Re: Supervisor Series on Alphad0 Message-ID: <009F47E7.7BEC01C0@SendSpamHere.ORG>  a In article <91667d$7qg$1@wanadoo.fr>, "Michel Herrscher Consultant" <michel@herrscher.fr> writes:i >Hello VMS community,H >e >[ fernch version follows] >oO >I am moving (at last) from my Microvax 3100/95 (VMS 7.1) to an Alpha DS10 (VMS  >7.2-1 and patches...) >OO >I got all the software I used on the VAX on to the ALPHA except one I got from_J >DECUS a long time ago whose name is Supervisor. It allows me to watch and< >interact with all my VTxxx or telnet emulators of my users. >a6 > I am looking for the Alpha version or a replacement. >Thanks for your help.  H There are no freeware equivalents to Supervisor.  It looks like you willF be purchasing commercial software if you want Supervisor capabilities.  H Raxco Contrl -- http://www.raxco.com/products/RaxcoSupport/more_info.cfm? NDC Peek&Spy -- http://www.networkingdynamics.com/peeknspy2.htmL   --O VAXman- OpenVMS APE certification number: AAA-0001     VAXman(at)TMESIS(dot)COMl            iO city, n., 1. a place where trees are cut down and streets are named after them.p   ------------------------------  % Date: Tue, 12 Dec 2000 19:21:17 -0500f, From: "Glenn C. Everhart" <Everhart@GCE.com>' Subject: Re: Supervisor Series on Alphap' Message-ID: <3A367AAD.1D711CD6@GCE.com>s  @ One small mod: there was a driver that allows one to monitor one? tt class device on alpha that was released. It had a misleadinge? name...lptdriver or some such...but it had the basic ability to B watch one terminal. It would NOT watch DECnet terminals...they are not tt class...   = I presume one could have set up several such drivers to watcho; multiple tt class devices, but the facilities are much lessi sophisticated than Supervisor.  $ Brian Schenkenberger, VAXman- wrote: > c > In article <91667d$7qg$1@wanadoo.fr>, "Michel Herrscher Consultant" <michel@herrscher.fr> writes:  > >Hello VMS community,i > >h > >[ fernch version follows] > >oQ > >I am moving (at last) from my Microvax 3100/95 (VMS 7.1) to an Alpha DS10 (VMS? > >7.2-1 and patches...) > >eQ > >I got all the software I used on the VAX on to the ALPHA except one I got fromoL > >DECUS a long time ago whose name is Supervisor. It allows me to watch and> > >interact with all my VTxxx or telnet emulators of my users. > >t8 > > I am looking for the Alpha version or a replacement. > >Thanks for your help. > J > There are no freeware equivalents to Supervisor.  It looks like you willH > be purchasing commercial software if you want Supervisor capabilities. > J > Raxco Contrl -- http://www.raxco.com/products/RaxcoSupport/more_info.cfmA > NDC Peek&Spy -- http://www.networkingdynamics.com/peeknspy2.htm  >  > --Q > VAXman- OpenVMS APE certification number: AAA-0001     VAXman(at)TMESIS(dot)COM, > Q > city, n., 1. a place where trees are cut down and streets are named after them.I   ------------------------------  % Date: Tue, 12 Dec 2000 13:51:19 -0500i2 From: "Jason McCormick" <jason.mccormick@lexi.com> Subject: TLB Files3 Message-ID: <3a367396$0$22337@wodc7nh1.news.uu.net>y  J Can anyone please tell me how to either find or create TLB files for an HPJ printer?  We've had QMS printers up to this point that came with a QMS.TLBJ file but now I need to hook up a new HP 8150DN printer to the VAX.  I wantH to use PostScript and not PCL commands.  I'm a new admin supporting thisJ machine and I really have no VMS administration experience other than whatD the departing admin had time to show me.  I need to be able to issueH print/setup=( ) commands to the printer and the ones we use for the QMSs don't seem to work.y   Thanks in advance, Jason McCormick  jason.mccormick@lexi.com   ------------------------------  # Date: Tue, 12 Dec 2000 19:51:34 GMT 1 From: Don Lewis <dlewis@runt.dawsoncollege.qc.ca>r Subject: Re: TLB Files4 Message-ID: <3A3681FC.64F4@runt.dawsoncollege.qc.ca>  & $ libr/create/text sys$library:libname  B will create a .tlb file which you assign to a print queue with theG init/queue command.  If your files are coded in postscript, you may not_? need any special setup at all.  The printer should autodetect a_H postscript file because the first characters are always %!  OTOH, if youD are going to create emulation modules in Postscript to flash specialH forms on line printer data you may be looking at a non-trivial exercise,F depending on how well you know Postscript.  Postscript is considerably more complex than PCL.   c  	 Don Lewist   Jason McCormick wrote: > L > Can anyone please tell me how to either find or create TLB files for an HPL > printer?  We've had QMS printers up to this point that came with a QMS.TLBL > file but now I need to hook up a new HP 8150DN printer to the VAX.  I wantJ > to use PostScript and not PCL commands.  I'm a new admin supporting thisL > machine and I really have no VMS administration experience other than whatF > the departing admin had time to show me.  I need to be able to issueJ > print/setup=( ) commands to the printer and the ones we use for the QMSs > don't seem to work.f >  > Thanks in advance, > Jason McCormick  > jason.mccormick@lexi.com   ------------------------------  # Date: Tue, 12 Dec 2000 20:14:41 GMTC+ From: Craig A. Berry <calepine@my-deja.com>e Subject: Re: TLB Files( Message-ID: <9160v9$84$1@nnrp1.deja.com>  3 In article <3a367396$0$22337@wodc7nh1.news.uu.net>,-5   "Jason McCormick" <jason.mccormick@lexi.com> wrote:-F > Can anyone please tell me how to either find or create TLB files for an HPa
 > printer?  F A "TLB" is just a text library that holds any text modules you want itA to, including printer setup strings, in which case it is called aIG device control library.  PRINT/SETUP=... just extracts the named modulenA from the library and sends it to the printer.  To find what setup B strings to send to an HP printer you might consider consulting the, documentation that came with the HP printer.  8 There are pointers to related information in the FAQ at:  ? <http://www.openvms.compaq.com/wizard/openvms_faq.html/#MGMT23>i     Sent via Deja.comn http://www.deja.com/   ------------------------------  % Date: Tue, 12 Dec 2000 23:53:22 -0800., From: Jack Patteeuw <jjpatteeuw@voyager.net> Subject: Re: VMS vs. Tru64 Unixe8 Message-ID: <3a370066$0$35009$2c3edae7@news.voyager.net>  K This limit has been "optionally" extended in V5.1 or V5.1A.  Of course most & other Un*xes still use 8 as the limit.    
 Jack Patteeuws    
 Ray wrote: >  > > ' > > VMS or Unix?  Thanks for your help!g > >  > M > One thing to consider is that Tru64 has an 8 character username limitation.  >  > Ray T.   ------------------------------   End of INFO-VAX 2000.694 ************************