1 INFO-VAX	Sat, 23 Dec 2000	Volume 2000 : Issue 715       Contents:/ Re: Any tips and/or tricks for VMS with HSG80s? / Re: Any tips and/or tricks for VMS with HSG80s?  Re: Data Calculation# Re: DS20 vs DS20E. Was: Sun Cluster # Re: DS20 vs DS20E. Was: Sun Cluster  Re: DSNlink for OpenVMS v3.0( RE: Happy Holidays - From Rich Marcelllo( Re: Happy Holidays - From Rich Marcelllo= Re: INFO-VAX complaints about duplicate postings (the answer)  Re: Mem file= Re: NLA0: the null device - can VMS have other default names? = Re: NLA0: the null device - can VMS have other default names?  Re: Opera (was Mozilla 0.6)  Re: Opera (was Mozilla 0.6) 
 Re: remove& Re: Static DHCP leases for Macintoshes  F ----------------------------------------------------------------------  # Date: Sat, 23 Dec 2000 08:40:27 GMT  From: Dirk Munk <munk@home.nl>8 Subject: Re: Any tips and/or tricks for VMS with HSG80s?' Message-ID: <3A4464FA.7C7595E9@home.nl>   
 Some tips:  F When adding a unit, use the disable_path=all switch !! Before you knowC it some unix box grabs your new unit, and you don't notice. If this < happens, delete the unit, and add it again with this switch.H Use enable_path for security, to prevent billy boxes and unix systems to destroy your VMS disks. E Set the maximum cached transfer for the unit to 128 (VMS can generate  IO's of more than 32).G You have to set the desired path on the HSG80 (I think), or on VMS (you  may have 8 paths to the unit !) H After installing the shadow patch, using cascaded switches is allowed !!G This is very important if you plan to build a disaster tolerant cluster C over 2 or more sites. Of course you have to use the new switches in H shadow too in case of disaster tolerant clusters over 2 or more sites...F Don't forget to use the identifier=nn on the This_controller settings,B VMS will create a GGann device to communicate with the controller.F Design some logic in the identifier numbers you use for the units etc.? It may help you to identify in which HSG80 cabinet the disk is. F Set the allocation class on the controller, even if VMS doesn't use itE (yet). If VMS is going to use the allocation class later on, then you F can adapt system by system, instead of having to change all systems adG once if you change the allocation class on the controller at that time.    regards,   Dirk     Scott Vieth wrote: >  > Hi:  > I > I've connected NT servers to our ESA12000s and even got a Novell server 	 > to talk I > to one of our Big StorageToys just to prove that it would work but have  > not yet connected  > a VMS system to an ESA12000. > F > Does anyone have any tips or tricks that they can pass along when itG > comes to connecting a VMS system to an ESA12000?  Has anyone done any I > dual-path stuff similar to SecurePath on NT?  (Which is also similar to @ > the dual-path setup I have with my CI-based storage networks.) >  > Many thanks in advance.  :^) >  > -Scott Vieth( > CI Plumber, Fibre Channel Plumber  ;^)   ------------------------------    Date: 23 Dec 2000 09:24:53 -0500* From: young_r@eisner.decus.org (Rob Young)8 Subject: Re: Any tips and/or tricks for VMS with HSG80s?+ Message-ID: <Goqa+NLBh0g2@eisner.decus.org>   P In article <3A43FB4F.87FBF540@wi.rr.com>, Scott Vieth <svieth@wi.rr.com> writes: > Rob: > T > That's easy to avoid if you configure your Units on the HSG80s correctly and allowV > only the servers who are supposed to see those units to access them.  I believe that > CompaqU > called it "Selective Storage Presentation" (I could be mistaken).  It's done within 
 > the HSG80s.  > C > I haven't had to invoke switch-level security on our SANs yet....  >     B 	Yes, as Uwe points out I have things mixed up.  This what happens1 	when you are reading about things and not doing.    				Rob    ------------------------------  # Date: Sat, 23 Dec 2000 08:51:18 GMT 8 From: DCantor@remove.three.words.shore.net (Dave Cantor) Subject: Re: Data Calculation > Message-ID: <aIZ06.103721$P82.11662171@news1.rdc1.ct.home.com>  V In article <t48g9orsp33889@news.supernews.com>, "David Ash" <jimjj@hotmail.com> wrote:G > Do any of you have a programming example, preferably in DCL or C that D > calculates the difference in number of days between any two dates?  M Yes.   Here is MJDFROMDATE.COM.  You can a command procedure to call this to  O compute the Modified Julian Day number for each of the two dates, and subtract   one result from the other.   $ vfy = f$verify('debug'+0) % $!  File MJDFROMDATE.COM, 30-Nov-1998 + $!         Last minor revision, 23-Jun-1999  $! $!   Dave Cantor $!+ $!   Compute the MJD from the standard date G $!   This is valid only on and after the base date of MJD (17-Nov-1858) C $!   Even if we were to add 2,400,000, it would not be valid for JD @ $!   before the change to the Gregorian calendar on 15-Oct-1582.B $!   The only reason for the base date restriction here is so thatD $!   we can use F$CVTIME to parse out the date elements.  If anotherD $!   method is found, the dates can go back farther.  The day before3 $!   15-Oct-1582 was 4-Oct-1582 (losing ten dates).  $! $ year = f$cvtime(p1,,"year")  $ month = f$cvtime(p1,,"month")  $ day = f$cvtime(p1,,"day")  $! $ if month .lt. 3  $   then $     month = month + 12 $     year = year - 1 	 $   endif  $!H $!  Number of 400 year periods since virtual year 0, proleptic Gregorian $ ncd = year / 4002 $!  Number of centuries since last 400-year period $ nc = (year - (ncd*400)) / 100 + $!  Number of years since last century year  $ ni = year - ((year/100)*100)4 $!  Number of 4-year periods since last century year $ niv = ni/4 $!: $!  Number of 5-month periods since adjusted start of year $ adjmonth = month - 3 $ nvmo = adjmonth/5 1 $!  Excess number of months past a 5-month period  $ nimo = adjmonth - (nvmo*5)/ $!  Number of month pairs past a 5-month period  $ niimo = nimo/2 $!  Excess month 1 or 0  $ nimo = nimo - (niimo*2)  $! $ tot = ncd * (36524*4 + 1) + -          (nc * 36524) + -         (ni * 365) + niv + -         (nvmo * 153) + -         (niimo * 61) + -         (nimo * 31) + -          day  $!C $!  By this method, the base date 17-Nov-1858 is day number 678882,  $!  so subtract that.  $! $ daynum = tot - 678882  $ mjd == daynum G $ write sys$output f$cvtime(p1,"absolute","date")," is MJD ",daynum,"."   $ exit $status + 0*f$verify(vfy)     Example:  7 To find out how many days remain to Ground Hog Day, use    $ @mjdfromdate today 23-DEC-2000 is MJD 51901.  $ @mjdfromdate 2-feb-2001  2-FEB-2001 is MJD 51942. $ write sys$Output 51942-51901 41  M For the picky among you, I know there was no year numbered zero.  It is used  N in this command procedure as a construct so that the numbers work out right.  L As stated in the command file, this is only good for dates on and after MJD 	 day zero.    Dave C.    ------------------------------  % Date: Sat, 23 Dec 2000 15:37:30 +0100 - From: "Taki Pioy" <nospam@localhost.spamwarn> , Subject: Re: DS20 vs DS20E. Was: Sun Cluster4 Message-ID: <MP216.728$3U5.1796@nntpserver.swip.net>  C I'm quite certain it's the latter. I.e., cycle rate is 278 (b-cache 	 interface H uses 1/3 multiplier) and since data is available on both edges, the data cycle rate is 555.   Regards  /Fad  . <Shane.F.Smith@Healthnet.com> wrote in message> news:OFAC6312FF.AE3CFFA7-ON882569BC.006429DF@foundation.com... > K > Question: 287MHz DDR as a marketing expression (ie that's the data rate), H > or 287MHz DDR as an engineering expression (ie that;s the clock speed, data > goes at 584)?  >  > Shane  >  >  >  >  > G > Rich Dischler <richard.dischler@compaq.com> on 12/21/2000 07:29:06 AM  >  > To:   Info-VAX@Mvb.Saic.Com  > cc:  > / > Subject:  Re: DS20 vs DS20E. Was: Sun Cluster  >  > 6 > 278MHz, dual data rate (data clocked on both edges).2 > Sorry for the strong HW slant... it's what I do. >  > Rich Dischler 8 > Engineering Manager -   Uni and Dual Processor Systems > COMPAQ Alpha Volume Servers # > 508 467-9655  297-9655 (internal)  >  >  > Taki Pioy wrote: > B > > "Rich Dischler" <richard.dischler@compaq.com> wrote in message( > > news:3A3FAB85.6F1D0DE7@compaq.com...? > > > The 667MHz EV67 CPU uses less power and creates less heat + > > > than the 500MHz EV6 CPU chip variant.  > > > 8 > > > The shrunken die features allow such an occurance.> > > > But, we cranked the cache from 4MB LateWrite to 8MB DDR. > > C > > On the 667 module's, what are the B-cache RAM parts cycle rate? = > > 167, 222MHz or something else? (333, 444, ... data rate).  > > E > > Are you hoping to crank the cache on the 21264B (?) even further, ! > > and using the 2/3 multiplier?  > >  > > Regards  > > /fad >  >  >  >  >    ------------------------------  % Date: Sat, 23 Dec 2000 16:40:33 +0100 - From: "Taki Pioy" <nospam@localhost.spamwarn> , Subject: Re: DS20 vs DS20E. Was: Sun Cluster4 Message-ID: <RK316.755$3U5.1659@nntpserver.swip.net>  C I'm quite certain it's the latter. I.e., cycle rate is 278 (b-cache 	 interface H uses 1/3 multiplier) and since data is available on both edges, the data cycle rate is 555.   Regards  /Fad  . <Shane.F.Smith@Healthnet.com> wrote in message> news:OFAC6312FF.AE3CFFA7-ON882569BC.006429DF@foundation.com... > K > Question: 287MHz DDR as a marketing expression (ie that's the data rate), H > or 287MHz DDR as an engineering expression (ie that;s the clock speed, data > goes at 584)?  >  > Shane  >  >  >  >  > G > Rich Dischler <richard.dischler@compaq.com> on 12/21/2000 07:29:06 AM  >  > To:   Info-VAX@Mvb.Saic.Com  > cc:  > / > Subject:  Re: DS20 vs DS20E. Was: Sun Cluster  >  > 6 > 278MHz, dual data rate (data clocked on both edges).2 > Sorry for the strong HW slant... it's what I do. >  > Rich Dischler 8 > Engineering Manager -   Uni and Dual Processor Systems > COMPAQ Alpha Volume Servers # > 508 467-9655  297-9655 (internal)  >  >  > Taki Pioy wrote: > B > > "Rich Dischler" <richard.dischler@compaq.com> wrote in message( > > news:3A3FAB85.6F1D0DE7@compaq.com...? > > > The 667MHz EV67 CPU uses less power and creates less heat + > > > than the 500MHz EV6 CPU chip variant.  > > > 8 > > > The shrunken die features allow such an occurance.> > > > But, we cranked the cache from 4MB LateWrite to 8MB DDR. > > C > > On the 667 module's, what are the B-cache RAM parts cycle rate? = > > 167, 222MHz or something else? (333, 444, ... data rate).  > > E > > Are you hoping to crank the cache on the 21264B (?) even further, ! > > and using the 2/3 multiplier?  > >  > > Regards  > > /fad >  >  >  >  >    ------------------------------  % Date: Sat, 23 Dec 2000 10:46:35 +0100   From: Paul Sture <paul@sture.ch>% Subject: Re: DSNlink for OpenVMS v3.0 + Message-ID: <VA.000001f4.2e25e531@sture.ch>   C In article <1001222145731.17250A-100000@Ives.egh.com>, John Santos   wrote: > * > On Fri, 22 Dec 2000, Peter Weaver wrote: > 1 > > "John Santos" <JOHN@egh.com> wrote in message 4 > > news:1001222141534.17250A-100000@Ives.egh.com...& > > > Are we officially off topic yet? > > = > > Yes, and I'm sorry, but thanks for the pre-christmas fun.  > 9 > I'm the one responsible.  You just used an amusing .sig  > A > > > As for flying craft abandoned in flight...  I wonder if any H > > > barn-stormers may have done this (by transfering to another plane,H > > > leavine the plane they took off in to crash on its own).  Or maybeE > > > movie stunt pilots.  I don't think the FAA would look kindly on  > > G > > Do ejector seats count? Or how about Crusty in the Simpsons when he  > > faked his own death? > E > Shane Smith asked about parachuting.  My view was, he still landed, B > just not in the plane.  As for ejector seats, I don't think many4 > planes take of with the pilot intending to use it. > > > I don't remember the details of Crusty's death.  I assume he > faked a plane crash. > C > P.S. Paul Sture also got what I was thinking of (private e-mail.)  > F It was your reference "Bob, you of all people on the group should get & it..." that put me on the right track.  F Thanks for a pleasant diversion at a time of year when the phones are  eerily silent :-)  ___ 
 Paul Sture Switzerland    ------------------------------  # Date: Sat, 23 Dec 2000 13:19:59 GMT = From: system@SendSpamHere.ORG (Brian Schenkenberger, VAXman-) 1 Subject: RE: Happy Holidays - From Rich Marcelllo 0 Message-ID: <009F5041.9AAE941F@SendSpamHere.ORG>   In article <35666012DF4CD411BE940090279FA240112017@ppnt41.physics.ox.ac.uk>, John Macallister <J.Macallister1@physics.ox.ac.uk> writes: E >The "Happy Holidays" (Ugh!) message was aimed at people with desktop 2 >systems. VMS is not marketed as a desktop system. > L >Even if the message had somehow been adapted to run through a "VMS browser"M >I wonder how many of us have VMS hardware configured to reproduce the audio. J >I suspect the percentage would be low. On the other hand the number of usH >with PCs available, and used, on our desktops must be high. The message >reaches its target audience.   H There was sound too!  I didn't hear anything even when I used the PeeCee0 Monopoly$chlock combination to look at the site.   --O VAXman- OpenVMS APE certification number: AAA-0001     VAXman(at)TMESIS(dot)COM              O city, n., 1. a place where trees are cut down and streets are named after them.    ------------------------------  % Date: Sat, 23 Dec 2000 13:28:23 -0500 - From: JF Mezei <jfmezei.spamnot@videotron.ca> 1 Subject: Re: Happy Holidays - From Rich Marcelllo , Message-ID: <3A44EEB6.1081EE7B@videotron.ca>   "David J. Dachtera" wrote:I > Perhaps, then, what we need is to exert what little influence Encompass I > (p.k.a. DECUS) can muster and try to get Capellas in a "Compaq listens" H > panel and grill him about the OpenVMS situation. I sure he'd never letJ > that happen, though. We may need to call in Vinnie, Gino, Al, Joey, Nik,' > The Capuzzo Bros., Louie the Letch...   M Just getting one Wall Street Casino Analysts to ask Capellas why Compaq isn't J marketing its products with the highest profit margins such as VMS and why> Compaq seems intent on marketing only its low margin products.  I At the next teleconference, you get another Wall Street Casino Analyst to F enquire about a rumour that Compaq might spin off the VMS group into aK separate company that would not have any barriers to marketing its own more  robust alternative to Windows.  L Some companies look to their CEO for vision and leadership (Apple with SteveJ Jobs for instance). Other companies have CEOs that look to Wall Street forJ guidance on what the next step should be to please the Wall Street Casino.  M I get the feeling that Capellas is of the second type. Hence, the only way to R get him to act on VMS is to convince a few analysts to get Capellas to act on VMS.   ------------------------------  % Date: Sat, 23 Dec 2000 01:02:12 -0800 0 From: Mark Berryman <Mark.Berryman@Mvb.Saic.Com>F Subject: Re: INFO-VAX complaints about duplicate postings (the answer), Message-ID: <3A43F994.71CF07ED@Mvb.Saic.Com>   Here's the skinny:  F Email services here at SAIC made an "update" to their system (which isA based on Microsoft Exchange and some virus scanning software from ; Symantec) which, um, royally futzed the core of their email B infrastructure.  One result of this was that all of the mail I wasA sending out not only entered a mail loop but was being duplicated D somewhere in that mail loop (for example, I generated 79 messages toG Info-VAX during one time period and they tried to claim I had sent over  16000 messages).  A The current status is that I am no longer using email services to C deliver mail (which is normally a mandated requirement) but will be H delivering all Info-VAX mail directly from mvb.saic.com.  Email services@ still has a bit of a mess to clean up so there may still be someB residual mail coming via them.  The way to tell the difference is:  H Mail delivered directly by mvb.saic.com will have no other SAIC hosts inG its received headers other than mvb.saic.com itself.  Mail delivered by F email services will have several received headers with SAIC hosts, theD last one being portal.(east or west).saic.com.  It is possible that,F until they have their queues completely corrected and cleaned out thatG some duplicate postings will still come from them but no new duplicates  will be generated.  H I expect this configuration (me delivering directly) to become permanentH but will not know for sure until after the holidays when I meet the withG the email group.  I do try to keep Info-VAX running smoothly but it may0' take awhile for this black eye to heal.o   With apologies,s  
 Mark Berrymane Mark.Berryman@Mvb.Saic.Com Info-VAX administrator   ------------------------------  % Date: Sat, 23 Dec 2000 10:46:34 +0100h  From: Paul Sture <paul@sture.ch> Subject: Re: Mem filea+ Message-ID: <VA.000001f3.2e25e328@sture.ch>l  > In article <wuQX3xf8$KkO@eisner.decus.org>, Bob Koehler wrote:. > From: koehler@eisner.decus.org (Bob Koehler) > Newsgroups: comp.os.vms- > Subject: Re: Mem file " > Date: 19 Dec 2000 15:56:55 -0500 > A > In article <hshubs-90774F.21403518122000@news.mindspring.com>, o0 > Howard S Shubs <hshubs@mindspring.com> writes:N > > In article <OQbm5tt1M0tC@eisner.decus.org>, koehler@eisner.decus.org (Bob  > > Koehler) wrote:t > > B > >>  You tell us.  There's no VMS convention for a file type mem. > > F > > Incorrect.  Think: RUNOFF.  Granted that doesn't appear related... > H > As an old fan of runoff, I never should have forgot that.  Who'ld haveI > thought the www would be built on markup languages back when WSYWIG wass > all the buzz?. > Q I'm another old fan of runoff. Back when I was doing lots of work out at customerpS sites, before many folks even had word processors, I'd knock out a nicely formattedl runoff report.  Q It _really_ impressed folks, especially when they realized that they too could dot that...u ___o
 Paul Sture Switzerlandt   ------------------------------  # Date: Sat, 23 Dec 2000 08:36:53 GMT 8 From: DCantor@remove.three.words.shore.net (Dave Cantor)F Subject: Re: NLA0: the null device - can VMS have other default names?> Message-ID: <FuZ06.103719$P82.11661716@news1.rdc1.ct.home.com>  V In article <3a40d512$1@cpns1.saic.com>, "Scott Stark" <hayden.s.stark@saic.com> wrote:D > Does VMS ever assign a value other than NLA0:  as the null device?  N Others have already pointed out, if you were going to check for the specified K device names, you'd have to check for not only NL:, but also  NLA0:, NL0:, oJ etc.  Add to that list NL00:, NL000:, NL0000:, NL00000:, NLA00:, NLA000:, D NLA0000:, etc., with and without colons and with or without leading J underscores.   It would be best to check the device type, using $GETDVI.    K Don't forget that users can (and DO) play games with logical names, such asnK DEFINE NLA0 MYFILE.DAT or DEFINE DSA459 NLA0000:  You can be fooled by the iK device name you find a user has typed if you don't check the actual device n type.0  G But why bother?  Doesn't coding an application program to do something WM different if a null device is specified as an output file defeat the purpose  J of having a null device?  Why not just let the IO requests go to the null D device specified and have the device driver ignore them as intended?   Dave C.c   ------------------------------  % Date: Sat, 23 Dec 2000 10:51:43 -0600R7 From: "David J. Dachtera" <djesys.nospam@earthlink.net>DF Subject: Re: NLA0: the null device - can VMS have other default names?- Message-ID: <3A44D81F.B38D0F26@earthlink.net>    Howard S Shubs wrote:  > [snip]P > Waitaminut... Multinet is from Process Software, yes?   Maybe I -did- use themP > several years ago... and found their usage broken, though the software worked. > It's been a long time.  B Well, IIRC (AFAIK), Multinet originated with Two(?) Guys and a VAXE (TGV). It was later purchased by Cisco, then sold to Process software.G shortly there after. Process has done an admirable job of getting up toh+ speed on it. PSC's own IP stack is TCPware.d  G What do you find "broken" about the usage of NTY or TNA devices? Either H can be the target of SET HOST/DTE, and NLP devices you can COPY to, open directly for output, etc.a   -- o David J. DachteraZ dba DJE Systems6 http://www.djesys.com/  : Unofficial Affordable OpenVMS Home Page and Message Board: http://www.djesys.com/vms/soho/   F This *IS* an OpenVMS-related newsgroup. So, a certain bias in postings is to be expected.  @ Feel free to exercise your rights of free speech and expression.  F However, attacks against individual posters, or groups of posters, are strongly discouraged.u   ------------------------------  % Date: Sat, 23 Dec 2000 10:46:32 +0100   From: Paul Sture <paul@sture.ch>$ Subject: Re: Opera (was Mozilla 0.6)+ Message-ID: <VA.000001f1.2e25dac9@sture.ch>   E In article <OF20B6DF6F.1D071DB2-ON882569B9.00673827@mhn.com>,  wrote:!  T > E > Opera is a nice browser, I use it occasionally. It's fast, light oneM > resources, and AFAIK it doesn't have any proprietary extensions. The "free"hH > version comes with an ad banner, but I'm not sure what technology it'sL > using. Still, it doesn't appear on the "Spyware Infested Software" list atL > http://www.infoforce.qc.ca/spyware/ (and I think it would have by now), so > it's probably OK.o > N FWIW according to my ISP logs, it reports itself as "Mozilla/4.0 (compatible; ) MSIE 5.0; Windows NT 4.0) Opera 5.0 [en]"   ) > Only problem is, it doesn't run on VMS.. >    ___ 
 Paul Sture Switzerland    ------------------------------  % Date: Sat, 23 Dec 2000 10:46:33 +0100s  From: Paul Sture <paul@sture.ch>$ Subject: Re: Opera (was Mozilla 0.6)+ Message-ID: <VA.000001f2.2e25de81@sture.ch>   F In article <3A3EC288.2E161489@earthlink.net>, David J. Dachtera wrote:9 > From: "David J. Dachtera" <djesys.nospam@earthlink.net>r > Newsgroups: comp.os.vmsr& > Subject: Re: Opera (was Mozilla 0.6)' > Date: Mon, 18 Dec 2000 20:06:00 -0600  >  > Paul Sture wrote:v > > G > > In article <3A3DD996.66BD8185@CCAgroup.co.uk>, Chris Sharman wrote:a8 > > > From: Chris Sharman <Chris.Sharman@CCAgroup.co.uk> > > > Newsgroups: comp.os.vms!* > > > Subject: Opera (was Re: Mozilla 0.6)+ > > > Date: Mon, 18 Dec 2000 09:32:06 +0000  > > > L > > > Sounds like we could have a while longer to wait before we can get rid > > > of netscape 3.03.  > > >mJ > > > Has anyone looked at Opera (now free) ? Is there any mileage there ? > > >yJ > > Yes I'm running Opera on my NT and Linux boxes. The Windows version isL > > free, with (fairly unobtrusive) adware, 39 USD (IIRC) for the non-adwareK > > version. The Linux version is a 30 day timed trial. Add on licenses area > > cheaper. > > F > > One immediate advantage I've seen with Opera over Netscape is thatE > > hitting the back button with Netscape usually initiates a dialup,tL > > whereas Opera brings it back from cache. That's saving my phone bill :-) > E > Not sure I understand that, but I think the next paragraph explainsn
 > further. > B Sorry if that confused. Here's what typically happens in Netscape:   o Visit a site's home page o Follow a link off that page-A o Get engrossed in the article (or go off and do something else),k8   so that my ISDN inactivity timer comes in and hangs up" o Click on the browser Back button  F On the last step, Opera will get it back from cache. Netscape wants to4 refresh the home page and so initiates another call.  I > > Another problem I've seen with Netscape 3.03, which I also see on thelL > > Linux version, is that after my dialup connection has timed out and hungJ > > up, the thing is repeatedly dialling out again. I _really_ do not likeL > > that! (and yes, I have disabled the default 10 minute check for mail). I4 > > don't see that problem with the Windows version. > I > I see it with the W/9x V4.6 and later (and perhaps earlier). I think itiI > may be trying to "phone home": The LANmodem indicates that the call was A > originated due to a DNS request from this Wintel box to resolveSJ > WWW-RL.NETSCAPE.COM. It does this at least once a day. Not sure what the > story is with that.  > K Yes, I've seen that address pop up. As Shane recommends, I've now switched e! off "Smart browsing" in Netscape.s  : Zonelabs has blocked 3 others in the last couple of weeks:   www.freetranslation.como www.the-times.co.ukc realmedia-a592.d4p.nes  M The first 2 I had visited a few days previously; the last one I don't recall  G ever visiting, but IIRC realplayer comes with NT 4.0. It's deleted now.t ___0
 Paul Sture Switzerland    ------------------------------  % Date: Sat, 23 Dec 2000 08:42:05 -0500u, From: Howard S Shubs <hshubs@mindspring.com> Subject: Re: removen> Message-ID: <hshubs-904CDA.08420523122000@news.mindspring.com>   In article  N <Pine.OSF.4.10.10012221034440.20227-100000@gator1.brazosport.cc.tx.us>, Carol - Lee Poush <cpoush@brazosport.cc.tx.us> wrote:    >remove    Remove what? --   Howard S ShubsD "Run in circles, scream and shout!"  "I hope you have good backups!"   ------------------------------  % Date: Sat, 23 Dec 2000 12:12:23 -0500.- From: JF Mezei <jfmezei.spamnot@videotron.ca>n/ Subject: Re: Static DHCP leases for Macintoshesv, Message-ID: <3A44DCEB.B0DBF23A@videotron.ca>   Carl Karcher wrote:sQ > To setup a static lease (as opposed to obtaining a dynamic lease from a pool ofhN > IP numbers) the MAC address of the client needs to be entered as per section6 > 7.2.4.3 of "TCP/IP Services for OpenVMS Management"   , > For Macintosh clients we've been unable toP > choose a MAC address that works. Does anyone know the correct format, type and2 > length of the MAC address for Macintosh clients?    ; This is what I got from a dynamic IP lease for a macintosh:   7 Client ID: exact ethernet address eg: 00:05:9a:20:6e:0e  Client ID type: 1  Client ID length: 6i   ------------------------------   End of INFO-VAX 2000.715 ************************