1 INFO-VAX	Wed, 12 Jul 2000	Volume 2000 : Issue 387       Contents:+ RE: %DCL-W-USGOTO, target of GOTO not found + Re: %DCL-W-USGOTO, target of GOTO not found + RE: %DCL-W-USGOTO, target of GOTO not found + RE: %DCL-W-USGOTO, target of GOTO not found ' %DCL-W-USGOTO, target of GOTO not found  Re: Apache for Open VMS  Re: Building TK50's  Re: Building TK50's  Re: Building TK50's  Re: Building TK50's - C-Kermit on VMS v7.2's latest TCP/IP release? ' RE: Cisco Has DECNet Ping - VMS Doesn't & Re: Compaq paying for software ports ?! DB connectivity via a web browser % Re: DB connectivity via a web browser  Re: DECnet login w/ ext. auth.* Default protection for logfiles (VMS 7.1)./ Re: RE: Direct OPCOM messages to e-mail account / Re: RE: Direct OPCOM messages to e-mail account  Editor Commands  Re: Editor Commands  Find Files utility Re: Find Files utility Re: Find Files utility Re: Find Files utility FTP to/from Alpha boxes $ Re: Help interpret Decnet-plus error$ Re: Help interpret Decnet-plus error$ Re: Help interpret Decnet-plus error Re: Hobbyist TCP IP licenses ? Re: Hobbyist TCP IP licenses ?& Re: How to disable DecWindows for OPA0 IDE CD-ROM audio support? 4 Re: Looking for VMS source code (any version really)4 Re: Looking for VMS source code (any version really)4 Re: Looking for VMS source code (any version really)4 Re: Looking for VMS source code (any version really)# Mac-Decnet via Webster Multiport LT ' Re: Mac-Decnet via Webster Multiport LT  Re: mime% Minimum Page/Swap File Size in Blocks ) Re: Minimum Page/Swap File Size in Blocks ) Re: Minimum Page/Swap File Size in Blocks 
 MX Records nfs and image mount ) Re: Open-source Database system available ) Re: Open-source Database system available  ppp dialup on VAX again  Re: ppp dialup on VAX again  RE: ppp dialup on VAX again  RE: ppp dialup on VAX again  RE: ppp dialup on VAX again ! Sorry for using this node as test  Re: stop/id problem  Re: stop/id problem : RE: Summer 2000 OpenVMS TIMES Now Available on CPQ Website% template device cannot be allocated - ) Re: template device cannot be allocated -  UCX sockets H Re: UNICENTER PERFORMANCE DATA COLLECTOR - DOES NOT INSTALL ON VMS 7.2!! VAX to DEC Cobol differences.  RE: VMS in practice  VMS tuning wsdefault Re: VMS tuning wsdefault Re: VMS tuning wsdefault Re: VMS tuning wsdefault What is VMS  Re: What is VMS  Re: What is VMS  WTB MicroVax 3100/85 or +  Re: WTB: Microvax2000  Re: WTB: Microvax2000  Re: WTB: Microvax2000  Re: WTB: Microvax2000  Re: WTB: Microvax2000  Re: WTB: Microvax2000  Re: WTB: Microvax2000 & Re: XML Parser for OpenVMS Available ?  F ----------------------------------------------------------------------  % Date: Wed, 12 Jul 2000 11:07:36 +0100 - From: "POWERS, John" <John.POWERS@sema.co.uk> 4 Subject: RE: %DCL-W-USGOTO, target of GOTO not found; Message-ID: <D30A62ABC710D211AEE100A0C9D615EE31640B@REAES2>   E This one appears every now and again. Maybe a candidate for the FAQ??   G This is almost certainly an IF-THEN-ENDIF problem. Note that you cannot G jump into the middle of an IF-ENDIF block. The following 6 lines give a  clear example of the problem..  
 $ goto label1 
 $ if 1 .eq. 1  $ then$ $ label1: wri sys$output "at label1" $ endif  $ exit   - try running it and you get  H %DCL-W-USGOTO, target of GOTO not found - check spelling and presence of label 	  \LABEL1\   I This can also happen if you get your IF's, THEN'S and ENDIF's not matched I up properly - one of the reasons why our coding standards (and, I believe I all good standards) insist on indentation of IF blocks, so you don't lose I track of where you are. When using GOTO, never go anywhere further to the , right of you - i.e. of greater indentation.   
 HTH - John   > -----Original Message-----. > From: Dr. B. Weikl [mailto:weikl@ilt.fhg.de] > Sent: 12 July 2000 10:41 > To: Info-VAX@Mvb.Saic.Com 2 > Subject: %DCL-W-USGOTO, target of GOTO not found >  >  > Hi everybody,  > @ > this sounds like a trivial error, but it isn't: Using OpenVMS  > 7.1-2 I have@ > added some lines to an existing and working DCL-Procedure and  > now the error  > ? > %DCL-W-USGOTO, target of GOTO not found - check spelling and  
 > presence of  > label  > = > occurs, though the label is definitely present and spelled   > correctly. The< > label is at line 998 of a 1364 lines long procedure. If I  > delete some lines,D > so that the procedure is only 1248 lines long, the label is found. > > > Has anyone expirienced this? Is there a workaround (besides  > shortening the
 > procedure)?  >  > Thanks for any info! >  > -- Bruno Weikl > Fraunhofer ILT > weikl@ilt.fhg.de >  >  >   -- Cheers, John  F  - Note  This message represents my opinions and nothing else, not theI   opinion of SEMA, my family, or the cricket club - though my dog Meg did E   nod in agreement whilst I was typing. If you have any problems then D   please complain to her (or me, but not SEMA, my family or the CC).       K ___________________________________________________________________________ B This email is confidential and intended solely for the use of the H individual to whom it is addressed. Any views or opinions presented are E solely those of the author and do not necessarily represent those of   Sema Group. M If you are not the intended recipient, be advised that you have received this I email in error and that any use, dissemination, forwarding, printing, or  - copying of this email is strictly prohibited.   E If you have received this email in error please notify the Sema Group . Helpdesk by telephone on +44 (0) 121 627 5600.K ___________________________________________________________________________    ------------------------------  % Date: Wed, 12 Jul 2000 12:24:03 +0200 ' From: "Dr. B. Weikl" <weikl@ilt.fhg.de> 4 Subject: Re: %DCL-W-USGOTO, target of GOTO not found2 Message-ID: <8khh03$lvq$1@nets3.rz.RWTH-Aachen.DE>   Hi John,  K thanks for your help! It was a missing endif indeed. It was indentated, but  the endif just missed.  
 Thanks again!    -- Bruno  , POWERS, John <John.POWERS@sema.co.uk> wrote:  G > This one appears every now and again. Maybe a candidate for the FAQ??  > I > This is almost certainly an IF-THEN-ENDIF problem. Note that you cannot I > jump into the middle of an IF-ENDIF block. The following 6 lines give a   > clear example of the problem.. >  > $ goto label1  > $ if 1 .eq. 1  > $ then& > $ label1: wri sys$output "at label1"	 > $ endif  > $ exit >  > - try running it and you get > J > %DCL-W-USGOTO, target of GOTO not found - check spelling and presence of > label  >  \LABEL1\  > K > This can also happen if you get your IF's, THEN'S and ENDIF's not matched K > up properly - one of the reasons why our coding standards (and, I believe K > all good standards) insist on indentation of IF blocks, so you don't lose K > track of where you are. When using GOTO, never go anywhere further to the - > right of you - i.e. of greater indentation.  >  > HTH - John >  > > -----Original Message-----0 > > From: Dr. B. Weikl [mailto:weikl@ilt.fhg.de] > > Sent: 12 July 2000 10:41 > > To: Info-VAX@Mvb.Saic.Com 4 > > Subject: %DCL-W-USGOTO, target of GOTO not found > >  > >  > > Hi everybody,  > > A > > this sounds like a trivial error, but it isn't: Using OpenVMS  > > 7.1-2 I haveA > > added some lines to an existing and working DCL-Procedure and  > > now the error  > > @ > > %DCL-W-USGOTO, target of GOTO not found - check spelling and > > presence of 	 > > label  > > > > > occurs, though the label is definitely present and spelled > > correctly. The= > > label is at line 998 of a 1364 lines long procedure. If I  > > delete some lines,F > > so that the procedure is only 1248 lines long, the label is found. > > ? > > Has anyone expirienced this? Is there a workaround (besides  > > shortening the > > procedure)?  > >  > > Thanks for any info! > >  > > -- Bruno Weikl > > Fraunhofer ILT > > weikl@ilt.fhg.de > >  > >  > >  >  -- Cheers, John > H >  - Note  This message represents my opinions and nothing else, not theK >   opinion of SEMA, my family, or the cricket club - though my dog Meg did G >   nod in agreement whilst I was typing. If you have any problems then F >   please complain to her (or me, but not SEMA, my family or the CC). >  >  >  > K ___________________________________________________________________________ C > This email is confidential and intended solely for the use of the I > individual to whom it is addressed. Any views or opinions presented are F > solely those of the author and do not necessarily represent those of
 > Sema Group. J > If you are not the intended recipient, be advised that you have received thisJ > email in error and that any use, dissemination, forwarding, printing, or/ > copying of this email is strictly prohibited.  > G > If you have received this email in error please notify the Sema Group 0 > Helpdesk by telephone on +44 (0) 121 627 5600. > K ___________________________________________________________________________  >    ------------------------------  % Date: Wed, 12 Jul 2000 09:17:22 -0300 1 From: "Boyle, Darren" <boyledj@bankofbermuda.com> 4 Subject: RE: %DCL-W-USGOTO, target of GOTO not foundK Message-ID: <9F664D538536D411BD3200508B6FF01A333649@bdant027.bda.bobda.com>   J Check that the lines you deleted did not contain and IF without the ENDIF.D I have found procedures to fail with this if the IF statement is not terminated.  - Darren   > ----------, > From: 	Dr. B. Weikl[SMTP:weikl@ilt.fhg.de]) > Sent: 	Wednesday, July 12, 2000 6:40 AM  > To: 	Info-VAX@Mvb.Saic.Com3 > Subject: 	%DCL-W-USGOTO, target of GOTO not found  >  > Hi everybody,  > L > this sounds like a trivial error, but it isn't: Using OpenVMS 7.1-2 I haveG > added some lines to an existing and working DCL-Procedure and now the  > error  > J > %DCL-W-USGOTO, target of GOTO not found - check spelling and presence of > label  > K > occurs, though the label is definitely present and spelled correctly. The G > label is at line 998 of a 1364 lines long procedure. If I delete some  > lines,D > so that the procedure is only 1248 lines long, the label is found. > L > Has anyone expirienced this? Is there a workaround (besides shortening the
 > procedure)?  >  > Thanks for any info! >  > -- Bruno Weikl > Fraunhofer ILT > weikl@ilt.fhg.de >  >  >     F **********************************************************************C This message and any files transmitted with it are confidential and J may be privileged and/or subject to the provisions of privacy legislation.M They are intended solely for the use of the individual or entity to whom they L are addressed. If the reader of this message is not the intended recipient, B please notify the sender immediately and then delete this message.I You are notified that reliance on, disclosure of, distribution or copying  of this message is prohibited.   Bank of Bermuda F **********************************************************************   ------------------------------   Date: 12 Jul 2000 13:07:51 GMT8 From: hammond@not@peek.ppb.cpqcorp.net (Charlie Hammond)4 Subject: RE: %DCL-W-USGOTO, target of GOTO not found6 Message-ID: <8khqj7$spe$1@mailint03.im.hou.compaq.com>  < In article <D30A62ABC710D211AEE100A0C9D615EE31640B@REAES2>, / "POWERS, John" <John.POWERS@sema.co.uk> writes:  ..I >%DCL-W-USGOTO, target of GOTO not found - check spelling and presence of  >label .. > H >This is almost certainly an IF-THEN-ENDIF problem. Note that you cannot+ >jump into the middle of an IF-ENDIF block.  ..J >This can also happen if you get your IF's, THEN'S and ENDIF's not matched  F The latest FREEWARE CD has a procedure called DCL_CHECK.  This does a F reasonably good job of finding several sorts of IF/THEN/ELSE problems.  Types of problems found include:           CODE    Message      .            Errors relate to if-then-else-endif  (         INT  IF statement not terminated*         EFB  "=" found between IF and THEN3         ICO  invalid comparison or logical operator -         TML  too many levels of IF statements )         TRH  THEN statement required here ,         TNA  THEN statement not allowed here,         ENA  ELSE statement not allowed here-         DNA  ENDIF statement not allowed here /         WCT  wrong constant type for comparison .         MEC  missing expression for comparsion   B As the autor of this procedure, I am always interested and pleased to receive feedback.  6 (DCL_CHECK also finds many other DCL coding problems.)   --  K     Charlie Hammond -- Compaq Computer Corporation -- Pompano Beach  FL USA F          (hammond@peek.ppb.cpqcorp.net -- remove "@not" when replying)J       All opinions expressed are my own and not necessarily my employer's.   ------------------------------  % Date: Wed, 12 Jul 2000 11:15:46 -0600 - From: Lorin Ricker <Lorin.Ricker@t-netix.com> 0 Subject: %DCL-W-USGOTO, target of GOTO not foundI Message-ID: <418E68E524A8D311ACCE00508B78866A7680A8@exchange.t-netix.com>   @ In similar vein, although not as common as simple mismatching of= IF-THEN-ELSE-ENDIF blocks mentioned before, I see related DCL = syntax errors of the following sort, esp. with newbie coders:   9 *  Missing/mismatched SUBROUTINE ... ENDSUBROUTINE blocks <     (causes grief which can appear as %DCL-W-USGOTO errors).  E *  Hyphen line-continuation (punctuation) problems, often when a one- A     line IF-THEN has been converted/expanded into a full IF-THEN-      ELSE-ENDIF block, as in:       $ IF <condition> -        THEN stmt1   7     $ IF <condition> -         ! <-- that's the culprit      $ THEN stmt1     $ ELSE stmt2     $ ENDIF   F *   Likewise, not paying attention to the leading-"$" on the converted'     THEN statement causes syntax grief.   H In a big com-file, these kinds of problems can indeed be tricky to find,F esp. since the error message seems to indicate another kind of problemK and in another area... in other words, the offending syntax is often "miles > away" from the point where DCL spits out the -W-USGOTO messageD (causing novice confusion, even with VERIFY turned on).  My standardF debugging advice is to comment out whole big swaths of DCL statements,F focusing on any recent areas of change (and it helps to have a "smart"B text editor for this), and test-uncomment-test until the offending statement(s)/ make themselves known... tedious, but it works.   G I've often wished that the -W-USGOTO condition was actually a -E- level C conditions, which would make trapping it with an ON ERROR condition D handler possible (I've never had much use for ON WARNING, since thatG generates too many spurious conditions to worry about).  OTOH, it might E be nice to extend DCL's ON-handlers to be multi-level, so one *could*  establish things like:  (   $ ON WARNING THEN GOTO Warning_Handler$   $ ON ERROR THEN GOTO Error_Handler$   $ ON FATAL THEN GOTO Fatal_Handler  A (or am I missing something obvious, equivalent or better, handler 
 style-wise?).   H Being able to actually handler-*trap* the -USGOTO condition is practicalJ for more than just syntax reasons... consider the case of parameter-driven "computed-by GOTOs" :       $ ...    $ GOTO Option_'P1'     $ ...      $Option_FOO:     $ ...      $Option_BAR:     $ ...      $ (etc.)   I The intent here is for the com-file user to be able to invoke it as, say:   5    $ @comfile FOO         or           $ @comfile BAR    ...but the invocation       $ @comfile GLORP   E would permit the -USGOTO condition to trap gracefully (presuming that * the label "$Option_GLORP:" doesn't exist).  F Just some thoughts on my all-time favorite scripting/command language.   regards   @ Lorin Ricker                            Lorin.Ricker@T-NETIX.com
 Director, JMS 5 T-NETIX, Inc.                           (303)705-5575  67 Inverness Drive East 8 Englewood, Colorado 80112      http://www.LockTrack.com/   ------------------------------  % Date: Wed, 12 Jul 2000 13:31:15 -0400 ) From: Rick Barry <barry@star.zko.dec.com>   Subject: Re: Apache for Open VMS0 Message-ID: <396CAB63.B0D486ED@star.zko.dec.com>  M The beta kit you have installed has a temporary restriction that requires you L to fully specify the CGI script name, including file extension. For example:M http::/apache/cgi-bin/printenv.exe. The latest beta for Apache 1.3.12 removes N this restriction. It should be available for download tomorrow (7/13/2000). BeN sure to read the release notes as this beta kit will introduce changes to makeF the installation and configuration for clusters more friendly, but the- startup/config procedures have changed a bit.i  
 Rick Barry Apache/OpenVMS Project Teami Compaq Computer Corporation7
 Nashua, NH   Raji Arulambalam wrote:    > Hi >P( > Anybody running Apache for Open VMS.?? >tJ > I have the Beta version of Apache Web server 1.3.12 installed an a Alpha" > running OVMS 7.2 and TCPIP v5.0.J > The server does not execute any pages from the cgi-bin area, when I do aM > http://apache/cgi-bin/printenv  test. The server reports an Internal ServerdF > error with this message "The server encountered an internal error or< > misconfiguration and was unable to complete your request." >f6 > I have not changed any thing in the httpd.conf file. > Otherwise it works fine. >e  > Any help would be appreciated. > TIAr/ > ---------------------------------------------P >   Raji Arulambalam >   Systems Administrator " >   Bay of Plenty REGIONAL Council >   P O Box 364 Whakatane. >   NEW ZEALANDa5 >   Phone: 0800 ENV BOP (0800 368 267) +64 7 921 3390l6 >   Fax:    0800 ENV FAX (0800 368 329) +64 7 921 3393 >   http://envbop.govt.nze4 > The Rules Have Changed...Get Paid to Surf the Web!1 > http://www.alladvantage.com/go.asp?refid=LJG413 . > --------------------------------------------8 > Hell is other people.   - Jean-Paul Sartre (1905-1980) >a8 > ******************************************************H > This e-mail has been checked for viruses and no viruses were detected.   ------------------------------  # Date: Wed, 12 Jul 2000 06:07:43 GMT 0 From: carlini@true.lkg.dec.com (Antonio Carlini) Subject: Re: Building TK50's) Message-ID: <8kh1as$qs@usenet.pa.dec.com>s  [ In article <396B58C3.56F5CAFA@videotron.ca>, JF Mezei <jfmezei.spamnot@videotron.ca> wrote:CM >If you have ethernet, you might consider clustering them to the real VAX andbJ >use the real VAX's drives as source of the installation kits (or copy the
 >stuff over).N  ) This is certainly what I would recommend.E  N >And once you got saveset B on the MVII, you probably have enough resources toM >boot standalone, but in the cluster, which means that you can mount from thei< >MVII, the CDrom on the 4000, and continue the installation.  I I doubt that restoring saveset B will get you a system that can cluster. :I Unless you are prepared to do some major hackery you would be better off sL restoring the remaining savesets to the data disk (the earlier post implied K the MicroVAX had two RD54 drives) and then reboot from the new RD54 system RN disk. The installation procedure will as where the remaining savesets are and " then pick up from the right point.  K >If you have greater disk capacity on the MVII, you could copy the savesetsb) >over to the MVII and install from there.o   Definitely the way to go.   O Getting OpenVMS onto an RD54 is not too bad, but there won't be much room left o over!l   Antonio   I Antonio Carlini                            Mail: carlini@true.lkg.dec.com # DECnet-Plus for OpenVMS Engineering 6 COMPAQ                                     Reading, UK   ------------------------------  % Date: Wed, 12 Jul 2000 02:15:45 -0400 * From: David A Froble <davef@tsoft-inc.com> Subject: Re: Building TK50's- Message-ID: <396C0D11.A46B9EBA@tsoft-inc.com>s   Bill Gunshannon wrote: >  > |>> > |>   Which specific system disk do you have on the MicroVAX? > D > Right now, I have RD54's for both of them.  Kind of hoping I could+ > get some SMD disks working at some point.g  P Assuming you can get both RD54 drives on one system, you can then use the secondO to hold the VMS and DECw save sets.  Put them on the extra drive, in [0,0], andi= then just specify the extra drive as your distribution media.   G > The 4000 has SCSI and thus CDROM's.  The running MicroVAX has a TK50. G > It also has DECNET so communications between the two running machineskF > is possible.  I have another MicroVAX (not running VMS) that I couldF > borrow an RA82 and a KDA50 from if that is the only practical way toG > do this, but I was hoping there was a simple (relatively) way to make.: > install tapes for VMS and for selected Layered Products.  L This is possible, but you want the save sets in the proper order.  Also, youL will not fit all the VMS save sets on 1 TK50, as you could in the past.  I'd- really suggest installing from a second disk.    > |>L > |>   The usual approach involves building a standalone BACKUP kit onto theI > |>   TK50 cassette, then relocating the VMS*.% and DECW*.% savesets outa > |>   onto the media. > J > That sounds simple enough, but I wasn't sure if there was something lessO > obvious that I was unaware of.  You mention DECW*.%.  Isn't that DECWindows??mN > Is that needed for a box that has no graphics capability??  Would DECWindowsK > even run (even remotely to an Xterminal) on machines with so little RAM??   1 The stand-alone backup can be on a separate tape.   K Some of the DECWindows stuff is required for VMS, even if you don't instally DECWindows.   K > I wasn't assuming any upgrades.  The one running MicroVAX has nothing buttJ > the base OS on it right now.  4.4 was the only thing I had on TK50, so IK > installed it to see if it would still work.  Fresh installs of 7.1 are mytI > targets.  I am sure I will end out doing it a few times before I have arK > functioning system.  I would imagine that I am going to have to find some0M > kind of larger disks before I will be able to use the machines for anything  > other than warming up a room.-  P Which is why you want to get something like MicroVAX 3100s and such, or better. O Faster than the MVII, use SCSI disks, can use a SCSI (well, some) CD-ROM drive,@ etc.  K Since you have DECnet, you can copy the VMS*.% and DECW*.% save sets to theiM target system, assuming adequate disk space, and then build from there.  WhenBP done, do an IMAGE backup of the system disk to the one that was used to hold theL distribution save sets, and then move it to the second MVII.  Then both will have system disks.  I As for the original media, you can get VMS V7.2 for VAX CD-ROM disks fromeK Montagar for $30 including shipping. Or, if you really want the latest, thebI field test CDs from Compaq are usually around $40, and V7.3 field test is ! rumored to be available soon/now.n   Dave   -- g4 David Froble                       Tel: 724-529-04504 Dave Froble Enterprises, Inc.      Fax: 724-529-0596> DFE Ultralights, Inc.              E-Mail: davef@tsoft-inc.com6 T-Soft, Inc.  170 Grimplin Road  Vanderbilt, PA  15486   ------------------------------  % Date: Wed, 12 Jul 2000 14:53:54 +0200e" From: "Hans Vlems" <hvlems@iae.nl> Subject: Re: Building TK50's( Message-ID: <8khpis$7bh$1@news.IAEhv.nl>   Sure, possible if a bit slow...f' Copy the VMS071.% savesets to the tape. ? Next, install standalonebackup on your target disk and boot it.o1 Restore the .B saveset from the tape to the disk. > Boot the target disk and tell VMSINSTALL where the rest of the distribution kit lives. G BTW this method will destroy *ALL* data that sat on that target disk... 
 Hans Vlems  @ BTW, should you have another VMS machine nearby, boot across the8 network with LANCP. A lot easier and faster than TK50's.  + Bill Gunshannon heeft geschreven in berichth# <8kfamj$27u6$1@info.cs.uofs.edu>... H >Can anyone tell me how I can take the stuff on a the OpenVMS-7.1 CD andI >make a TK50 that can install 7.1 on a MicroVAX with no access to a CDROMcK >drive??  I would really like to run something a little newer than MicroVMSl >4.4!! >t >Thanks. >o >bill  >  >--aK >Bill Gunshannon          |  de-moc-ra-cy (di mok' ra see) n.  Three wolveseE >bill@cs.scranton.edu     |  and a sheep voting on what's for dinner.W >University of Scranton   | ? >Scranton, Pennsylvania   |         #include <std.disclaimer.h>N   ------------------------------  % Date: Wed, 12 Jul 2000 08:00:07 -0500n) From: "John E. Malmberg" <wb8tyw@qsl.net>  Subject: Re: Building TK50's/ Message-ID: <smoqiascnd6121@corp.supernews.com>   B Bill Gunshannon <bill@triangle.cs.uofs.education> wrote in message& news:8kfiva$2cla$1@info.cs.uofs.edu...8 > In article <8kfg3l$d1p$2@mailint03.im.hou.compaq.com>,7 >  hoffman@xdelta.zko.dec.nospam (Hoff Hoffman) writes:e > |> > |>   Which specific MicroVAX?u >t > A pair of MicroVAX-II (KA630) 3 > One with 16M of memory and one with 9M of memory.h >a > |>> > |>   Which specific system disk do you have on the MicroVAX? >tD > Right now, I have RD54's for both of them.  Kind of hoping I could+ > get some SMD disks working at some point.  >w > |>B > |>   Do you have a network between the MicroVAX and another VAX? > D > let's start this with a description of just what I have and what I > am trying to do. >nE > I have a VAX 4000-100 (with a QBUS expansion box) running OVMS-7.1._F > I have a pair of MicroVAX-II's one is currently running MicroVMS-4.4E > and the other is currently parts in a box hopefully soon to be madey! > into a functioning MicroVAX-II.R >%G > The 4000 has SCSI and thus CDROM's.  The running MicroVAX has a TK50.0G > It also has DECNET so communications between the two running machineslF > is possible.  I have another MicroVAX (not running VMS) that I couldF > borrow an RA82 and a KDA50 from if that is the only practical way toG > do this, but I was hoping there was a simple (relatively) way to makee: > install tapes for VMS and for selected Layered Products.  K Watch out.  That old of MicroVAX hardware may have a DEQNA not a DELQA, and % that is very important to your plans.   K The DEQNA is not very useful anymore for VMS.  It will work with some earlykK versions of UCX, but not the current.  It stops working for DECNET/LAT/LAVC ! not too much higher that VMS 4.7.e  G If you have a DEQNA, you will need to keep a backup of your current 4.xsL system image, because after you upgrade, the only networking that I am aware" of that will still work is CMU-IP.   > |>C > |>   Do you have a CD-ROM drive that you can relocate over to theo	 MicroVAX,cJ > |>   or a disk you can relocate from the MicroVAX to another VAX system? >hJ > No to the first, but the second seems likely assuming KDA50's and RA82's > are still supported in 7.1.*  # According to the S.P.D. that is ok.*   > |>L > |>   The usual approach involves building a standalone BACKUP kit onto theI > |>   TK50 cassette, then relocating the VMS*.% and DECW*.% savesets outo > |>   onto the media. >yJ > That sounds simple enough, but I wasn't sure if there was something lessB > obvious that I was unaware of.  You mention DECW*.%.  Isn't that DECWindows??C > Is that needed for a box that has no graphics capability??  Wouldi
 DECWindowsK > even run (even remotely to an Xterminal) on machines with so little RAM??o  I Yes, you can do it if you do not mind waiting for the windows to show up.*L Response will not be the best.  Once the DECterm is up, though it is not tooJ bad, even with as low as 6M on a VAXstation 2000.  A MicroVAX II having noF graphics hardware should be be a little faster than a VAXstation 2000.  ( > I appreciate any help you can provide.  J With that configuration, If you have compatable network hardware availableL for the MicroVAX IIs, I would simply make the VAX 4000-100 a LAVC boot node.: Then I would configure that MicroVAX IIs to be satellites.   > --L > Bill Gunshannon          |  de-moc-ra-cy (di mok' ra see) n.  Three wolvesF > bill@cs.scranton.edu     |  and a sheep voting on what's for dinner. > University of Scranton   |@ > Scranton, Pennsylvania   |         #include <std.disclaimer.h>   -Johnf wb8tyw@qsl.network   ------------------------------  % Date: Wed, 12 Jul 2000 11:33:33 -0600E- From: Lorin Ricker <Lorin.Ricker@t-netix.com> 6 Subject: C-Kermit on VMS v7.2's latest TCP/IP release?I Message-ID: <418E68E524A8D311ACCE00508B78866A7680A9@exchange.t-netix.com>m  < Does anyone have current experience with the latest C-Kermit: release (which I presume to be ckv196-axp-vms72-ucx50.exe)= regarding the *very* latest TCP/IP v5.0(A) under v7.2?  I mayt' just be confused on terminology here...D  @ VMS 7.2 inflicted, for better (mostly) or worse, that new TCP/IP> package (the one where all the filenames changed prefixes from? "UCX$..." to "TCPIP$..." --- boy, that! broke a few com-files!)s? on us.  I've been calling this "the TCP" package (as opposed toc: "the UCX" package).  However, as noted above, the C-Kermit< distribution kit is named with "-ucx50" ... same thing?  Any; compatibility or operational experiences, good or bad, withl( C-Kermit 196/197 and this latest TCP/IP?  > NB to the TCP/IP for VMS team:  Any idea when that slip-stream> 5.0A patch release is going to be upgraded into something like@ an official release/patch kit?  And, at the same time, give some> more clarity to the nomenclature change from "UCX" to "TCP/IP" as a component designator?  C NB to the Kermit team:  If by "UCX 5.0" you really mean "the latestDA TCP/IP release for VMS", some fine-tuning of nomenclature on youre, web-site would be helpful too.  ;-)  Thanks.  @ Lorin Ricker                            Lorin.Ricker@T-NETIX.com
 Director, JMS 5 T-NETIX, Inc.                           (303)705-5575c 67 Inverness Drive East 8 Englewood, Colorado 80112      http://www.LockTrack.com/   ------------------------------  # Date: Wed, 12 Jul 2000 12:46:00 GMT  From: palm6174@my-deja.com0 Subject: RE: Cisco Has DECNet Ping - VMS Doesn't) Message-ID: <8khpa9$6pi$1@nnrp2.deja.com>    I found an old decnet_ping   Enjoy !i   Grard  ! _________________________________t $!'f$ver(0) 
 $ SET NOON $ SET CONTROL=Yt $ ON CONTROL_Y THEN GOTO FIN* $ NETNODE_REM = F$TRNLNM("NETNODE_REMOTE") $ IF NETNODE_REM .EQS. "" THEN, NETNODE_REM  :=SYS$SYSTEM:NETNODE_REMOTE.DAT $ DEBUT:
 $ FLAG_OK = 1e $ NAME = P1 % $ IF NAME .eqs. "" THEN goto HELP_FINi' $ IF F$LOCATE(".",P1) .NE. F$LENGTH(P1)s $ THEN $       FLAG_ADDR = 1u- $       AREA = F$INTEGER(F$ELEMENT(0,".",P1))o- $       IF AREA .GT. 63 THEN GOTO ERREUR_ADDRt, $       NUM = F$INTEGER(F$ELEMENT(1,".",P1)). $       IF NUM .GT. 1023 THEN GOTO ERREUR_ADDR $       ADDR = AREA*1024+NUM $       ADDH=ADDRs, $ NAME = " Address ''AREA'.''NUM' or ''addr'! (dec)"+f$fao("!XW",addh)+" (hex)"o $ ELSE $       FLAG_ADDR = 0n# $       IF F$CVUI(0,8,P1) .GT. %X39w $       THEN' $               ADDR = F$EXTRAC(0,6,P1)t $       ELSE$ $               ADDR = F$INTEGER(P1)) $               IF ( ADDR .EQ. 0 ) .OR. (G
 ADDR .EQ. 1 )e $               THEN0 $                       ADDR = F$INTEGER(%X'P1')1 $                       IF ( ADDR .EQ. 0 ) .OR. (e
 ADDR .EQ. 1 )d $                       THEN/ $                               ADDR = F$EXTRACE (0,6,P1) $                       ELSE. $                               IF ( ADDR .GT. 65535 ) .OR. ( ADDR .LT.1 )o$ $                               THEN, $                                       GOTO ERREUR_ADDR $ $                               ELSE. $                                       AREA =	 ADDR/1024e. $                                       NUM  = ADDR-(AREA*1024)* $                                       P1 = "''AREA'.''NUM'"2 $                                       GOTO DEBUT% $                               ENDIF$ $                       ENDIF  $               ELSE( $                       AREA = ADDR/1024/ $                       NUM  = ADDR-(AREA*1024)p/ $                       P1   = "''AREA'.''NUM'"G" $                       GOTO DEBUT $               ENDIF 
 $       ENDIFi $ ENDIFd $ IF FLAG_ADDR $ THEN- $       OPEN/READ/SHARE NETNODE 'NETNODE_REM'.0 $       READ/KEY="''ADDH'"/ERROR=ERR_LEC NETNODE RECORD) $       NODE_NAME = F$EXTRACT(2,6,RECORD)e/ $ NAME = NODE_NAME + " Address ''p1' or ''addr't (dec)"+f$fao("!XW",addr)+" (hex- $       ERR_LEC: $       CLOSE NETNODEu $ ELSE- $       OPEN/READ/SHARE NETNODE 'NETNODE_REM'o1 $       READ/KEY="''ADDR'"/INDEX=1/ERROR=ERR_LEC1g NETNODE RECORD1 $       ADDH = F$CVUI(0,16,F$EXTRACT(0,2,RECORD)) ) $       NODE_NAME = F$EXTRACT(2,6,RECORD)r $       AREA = ADDH/1024 $       NUM  = ADDH-(AREA*1024)n1 $ NAME = p1 + " Address ''AREA'.''NUM' or ''addr'i (dec)"+f$fao("!XW",addh)+" (h  $       ERR_LEC1:e $       CLOSE NETNODEn $ ENDIFl $ DEFINE SYS$OUTPUT NL:a $ DEFINE SYS$ERROR  NL:e' $ A=F$FILE_ATT("''ADDR'::""1=""","ORG")b $ STATUS = $STATUS $ DEASSIGN SYS$OUTPUT  $ DEASSIGN SYS$ERROR/ $ IF STATUS .EQ. %X0000206C !%SYSTEM-F-REMRSRC,r insufficient systemresources atd/ $ THEN WRITE SYS$OUTPUT "  ''NAME' insufficienta system resources atremote node" ( $ ELSE IF STATUS .EQ. %X00000294 !REJECT+ $      THEN  WRITE SYS$OUTPUT "  ''NAME' isM# alive,but DECNET rejectconnection "f1 $      ELSE IF STATUS .EQ. %X000020A4 ! NOSUSHOBJu0 $           THEN  WRITE SYS$OUTPUT "  ''NAME' is alive on DECNET  ", $           ELSE IF STATUS .EQ. %X0000028C !
 NOSUSHNODE  $              THEN  FLAG_OK = 0 $                WRITE. SYS$OUTPUT "''NAME'''F$ELEMENT(1,",",F$MESSAGE
 (status))"/ $              ELSE IF STATUS .EQ. %X00002094 !o UNREACHABLEr" $                 THEN FLAG_OK = 0 $                WRITE. SYS$OUTPUT "''NAME'''F$ELEMENT(1,",",F$MESSAGE
 (status))" $                     ELSE $                WRITE. SYS$OUTPUT "''NAME'''F$ELEMENT(1,",",F$MESSAGE
 (status))" $                ENDIF $           ENDIFu
 $       ENDIFo $ ENDIFk) $ IF ( FLAG_OK .AND. (F$EXTRAC(0,1,F$EDITN& (P2,"UPCASE")) .EQS. "F")) THEN MC NCP $FIN: , $ IF F$TRNLNM("SYS$OUTPUT") .EQS. "NL:" THEN DEASSIGN SYS$OUTPUTt+ $ IF F$TRNLNM("SYS$ERROR") .EQS. "NL:" THENS DEASSIGN SYS$ERROR $ EXIT
 $ERREUR_ADDR:/
 $HELP_FIN:# $ WRITE SYS$OUTPUT "Address Error."-( $ WRITE SYS$OUTPUT "Please enter an node% address : x.xxx or decimal form xxxxx - $ WRITE SYS$OUTPUT " or enter the name of the* node." $exits        & Sent via Deja.com http://www.deja.com/ Before you buy..   ------------------------------   Date: 12 Jul 2000 14:07:38 GMT From: clark@sander.stsci.edu ()c/ Subject: Re: Compaq paying for software ports ?0) Message-ID: <8khu3a$679$1@tomm.stsci.edu>m   ------------------------------  # Date: Wed, 12 Jul 2000 13:44:13 GMTn0 From: "Mike Flaherty" <mflaherty2@earthlink.net>* Subject: DB connectivity via a web browserF Message-ID: <NC_a5.53638$NP5.1702434@newsread2.prod.itd.earthlink.net>   Hello,  J We are using Fasttrack on VMS.  How can we access our RDB database throughK HTML/web browser in real time (live connect - not with cgi).  Perhaps there  is a server side Java solution?h  J Also, does anyone know when Apache will be available for VMS (not the beta@ version).  I have been hearing "3 months" for the past year now.   Thanks,t
 Mike Flahertys   ------------------------------  % Date: Wed, 12 Jul 2000 09:10:13 -0700r9 From: Clemens Wermelskirchen <wermelsk@SLAC.Stanford.EDU>t. Subject: Re: DB connectivity via a web browser6 Message-ID: <396C9865.4EA743E0@ssrl.slac.stanford.edu>   Hi,h  L we are running Oracle RDB too. This includes the Oracle RDBWEB program whichI works great with the OSU web server. The interface how RDBWEB is launchedIP (this is actually via CGI) also works for some other web servers. Sorry, I don't  ( have any interformation about Fasttrack.   Clemens Wermelskirchen   Mike Flaherty wrote:   > Hello, >vL > We are using Fasttrack on VMS.  How can we access our RDB database throughM > HTML/web browser in real time (live connect - not with cgi).  Perhaps there ! > is a server side Java solution?- >-L > Also, does anyone know when Apache will be available for VMS (not the betaB > version).  I have been hearing "3 months" for the past year now. >-	 > Thanks,1 > Mike Flahertyi   ------------------------------    Date: 12 Jul 2000 08:16:37 -05009 From: Kilgallen@eisner.decus.org.nospam (Larry Kilgallen)h' Subject: Re: DECnet login w/ ext. auth.i+ Message-ID: <dE6$$IQSJ4fi@eisner.decus.org>o  s In article <8kfl3c$mth$1@charm.magnus.acs.ohio-state.edu>, DAVISM@er6.eng.ohio-state.edu (Michael T. Davis) writes:w  J > %DCL-E-OPENIN, error opening NODE"username password"::"MYTASK=" as input$ > -RMS-E-ACC, ACP file access failed> > -SYSTEM-F-INVLOGIN, login information invalid at remote node > Q > Is there something we can do to fix this, or is this due to a deficiency in thee/ > current implementation of VMS authentication?r  ? In addition to the Uppercase issue, look for Patches that apply B to this.  I think I have read about some, but I have not installed$ any because I do not use this stuff.   Larry KilgallenM Forever MacintoshL   ------------------------------  % Date: Wed, 12 Jul 2000 16:52:41 +0100p- From: Tim Llewellyn <tim.llewellyn@bbc.co.uk>s3 Subject: Default protection for logfiles (VMS 7.1).e) Message-ID: <396C9449.EA177BD3@bbc.co.uk>    Hi  F I am trying to understand how the default protection for batch job log files  is controlled.  F Assume there are no default protection ACL's defined for the directory where the logfile is created.p  ; The batch logfile is created before sylogin.com and the seti protection/default! command it contains are executed.   A The logfiles are being created G:RE, we would like G:RWE. Neithera? the device protection or the volume protection are set to G:RE.r  E I dimly recall something about a disk initialization time setting but  have" been unable to discover it so far.   Thanks in advance for any info   VMS 7.1 btw.   --6 Tim Llewellyn, OpenVMS Infrastructure, Remarcs Project0 MedAS at the BBC, Whiteladies Road, Bristol, UK.A Email tim.llewellyn@bbc.co.uk. Home tim.llewellyn@cableinet.co.uk   A I speak for myself only and my views in no way represent those ofa MedAS or the BBC.    ------------------------------  % Date: Wed, 12 Jul 2000 05:09:07 -0700n5 From: Richard  <maher_rjNOmaSPAM@hotmail.com.invalid>i8 Subject: Re: RE: Direct OPCOM messages to e-mail account9 Message-ID: <112cf6a7.39aae3ac@usw-ex0110-076.remarq.com>o   Hi Carleen,s  9 As promised here's a quick program that may or may not beo6 of any use to you whatsoever. Please let me know if it9 helps. I've never used these services before but if "theye. do what they say on the tin" then it may work.  ; The idea revolves around "cluster buddies" :-) To take yourd: example where there are 3 nodes say A, B and C then A will: watch B and B will watch C and C will watch A. This should4 be set up by the system manager in the node specific9 startup. You should define a system logical CLUSTER_BUDDY 9 at exec mode to point to the node that should be watched.t  ; You should then $run/detach sys$system:loginout.exe/input =e9 "a com file that just runs the following image" /output =,2 "a log file that you can check every now and then"  7 You may want to change it so that all nodes loop around 9 checking for all other nodes but then you'll get multiple 9 pager messages. There are obviously short falls with thisv3 strategy but you could say that about any strategy.n    do a $MAC/LIS on the following:-  # 	.title	External Symbol Definitions0   	$psldef		GLOBAL 	$lnmdef		GLOBAL 	$cluevtdef	GLOBAL   	.end:  % Then do a $COB/LIS on the following:-$   identification division. program-id.    pair_up.  *y data division. working-storage section. *n7 01  remove_node_ast                             pointer ( value   external        remove_node_ast.4 01  cluevt$c_remove             pic 9(9)        comp( value   external        cluevt$c_remove.4 01  lnm$m_case_blind            pic 9(9)        comp) value   external        lnm$m_case_blind.s4 01  psl$c_exec                  pic 9(9)        comp# value   external        psl$c_exec.r4 01  psl$c_user                  pic 9(9)        comp# value   external        psl$c_user.f4 01  ss$_wasclr                  pic 9(9)        comp# value   external        ss$_wasclr.d4 01  ss$_wasset                  pic 9(9)        comp# value   external        ss$_wasset.o4 01  ss$_normal                  pic 9(9)        comp# value   external        ss$_normal.b5 01  sys_status                  pic 9(9)        comp.c *d 01  buddy_list.      03  item_string.4         05                      pic 9(4)        comp
 value   6.4         05                      pic 9(4)        comp$ value   external        lnm$_string.7         05                                      pointer " value   reference       node_name.7         05                                      pointers& value   reference       node_name_len.5     03                          pic 9(9)        comp.u   01  ast_params.s)     03  node_name               pic x(6)..5     03  node_name_len           pic 9(4)        comp.m%     03  test_flag               pic xo value   "Y".  5 01  test_handle                 pic 9(18)       comp.a *o procedure division.  00.n     call "sys$trnlnm"d0         using   by reference    lnm$m_case_blind3                 by descriptor   "LNM$SYSTEM_TABLE",  "CLUSTER_BUDDY"v6                 by reference    psl$c_exec, buddy_list         giving  sys_status.o;     if sys_status not = ss$_normal call "lib$stop" using bye value sys_status.e  9     move function upper-case (node_name(1:node_name_len))t
 to node_name.t *+0 * Take the phone off the hook until we're ready. *-9     call "sys$setast" using by value 0 giving sys_status.f;     if sys_status not = ss$_wasset call "lib$stop" using byh value sys_status.y       call "sys$setcluevt"0         using   by value        cluevt$c_remove, remove_node_asth*                 by reference    ast_params*                 by value        psl$c_user+                 by reference    test_handlel         giving  sys_status.h;     if sys_status not = ss$_normal call "lib$stop" using bya value sys_status.t       call "sys$tstcluevt"+         using   by reference    test_handle -                 by value        psl$c_user, 0e         giving  sys_status.y;     if sys_status not = ss$_normal call "lib$stop" using bya value sys_status.a  %     display "Initialization complete.o Hibernating...zzzzzzzzz".n  9     call "sys$setast" using by value 1 giving sys_status.k;     if sys_status not = ss$_wasclr call "lib$stop" using by  value sys_status.o       call "sys$hiber".S  
     stop run.h *  end program pair_up. identification division. program-id.    remove_node_ast.s *f data division. working-storage section. *m7 01  my_entry_mask                               pointer ( value   external        remove_node_ast.4 01  cluevt$c_remove             pic 9(9)        comp( value   external        cluevt$c_remove.4 01  psl$c_user                  pic 9(9)        comp# value   external        psl$c_user.s4 01  ss$_nosuchnode              pic 9(9)        comp' value   external        ss$_nosuchnode.u4 01  ss$_normal                  pic 9(9)        comp# value   external        ss$_normal.r5 01  sys_status                  pic 9(9)        comp.o * 5 01  node_list                   pic 9(9)        comp.'
 01  syi_iosb. 5     03  iosb_status             pic 9(9)        comp.o5     03                          pic 9(9)        comp.  *d linkage section.   01  ast_params.a)     03  node_name               pic x(6).v5     03  node_name_len           pic 9(4)        comp. &     03  test_flag               pic x.  $ procedure division using ast_params. 00.      call "sys$setcluevt"0         using   by value        cluevt$c_remove,
 my_entry_maskh*                 by reference    ast_params-                 by value        psl$c_user, 0e         giving  sys_status.a;     if sys_status not = ss$_normal call "lib$stop" using byh value sys_status.,       if test_flag = "Y"'         display "This a Test Run only".X       call "sys$getsyiw"$         using   by value        0, 0:                 by descriptor   node_name(1:node_name_len)3                 by reference    node_list, syi_iosbm$                 by value        0, 0         giving  sys_status.h2     if sys_status = ss$_normal move iosb_status to sys_status.    *+; * You would replace the following "display" statements withJ callsb+ * to your pager software or lib$spawns etc.- *-       evaluate    sys_status9         when    ss$_normal      display "Ok! it wasn't us  :-)"1         when    ss$_nosuchnode  display node_name , (1:node_name_len), " has left the building!"8         when    other           call "lib$stop" using by value sys_status     end-evaluate.e       if test_flag = "Y"         display "Test Complete"e         move "N" to test_flag.       exit program.  *a end program remove_node_ast.     Then link a,b and you're away!   Regards Richard Maher.     * Sent from AltaVista http://www.altavista.com Where you can also find related Web Pages, Images, Audios, Videos, News, and Shopping.  Smart is Beautiful    ------------------------------  % Date: Wed, 12 Jul 2000 05:47:03 -0700)5 From: Richard  <maher_rjNOmaSPAM@hotmail.com.invalid>k8 Subject: Re: RE: Direct OPCOM messages to e-mail account9 Message-ID: <1f1200dc.438f5da0@usw-ex0110-076.remarq.com>t   Hi,7  9 How can I stop my beautifully formatted source files fromn2 being trashed and munged into a dog's breakfast by
 Altavista?  7 Is there a way to append files without subscribing to a?
 mailing list?a   Regards Richard Maher.       * Sent from AltaVista http://www.altavista.com Where you can also find related Web Pages, Images, Audios, Videos, News, and Shopping.  Smart is Beautiful/   ------------------------------  # Date: Wed, 12 Jul 2000 12:52:53 GMTw% From: hx_101@hotmail.com (Horse Nuts)o Subject: Editor Commands+ Message-ID: <396d6a06.78564810@news.dal.ca>r  E Looking for a reference to editor commands!!! Anyone have any links??e   Thanks   ------------------------------   Date: 12 Jul 2000 14:58:19 GMT2 From: hoffman@xdelta.zko.dec.nospam (Hoff Hoffman) Subject: Re: Editor Commands6 Message-ID: <8ki12b$121$1@mailint03.im.hou.compaq.com>  S In article <396d6a06.78564810@news.dal.ca>, hx_101@hotmail.com (Horse Nuts) writes:nF :Looking for a reference to editor commands!!! Anyone have any links??  G   EVE!!! and TPU!!!! documentation is in the OpenVMS!!!! documentation $F   set, and pointers to this stuff are in the OpenVMS FAQ!!!!  Various 1   tutorial information!!!! is available, as well.   H   EDT!! documentation is a little harder to come by, as this text editorE   is no longer supported.  (There is a decent EDT mode in EVE!!!!, if=   you are interested.)  J   emacs!!! is not shipped with OpenVMS!!!!, but there are versions around.;   Check with the folks over at fsf.org!!!! for information.E  H   vi!!!! documentation is generally available as part of the vi!!!! kitsD   (such as the vile!!!! package) available from various sources.  On(   the OpenVMS Freeware!!!! for instance.  J   Can't say I've seen teco!!!! or ked!!!! documentation recently, but I do2   have a teco manual buried somewhere on my shelf.  L   LSE!!!!! documentation is included in the documentation for the DECset!!!!   stuff.  P   EDI!!!! only really shipped with OpenVMS as part of the RSX!!!! compatibility    mode stuff, IIRC!!!!  G   Donno if the StarOffice!!!!! stuff has been ported over as yet (whichFI   includes a version of an editor compatible with Microsof!!!! Word!!!),  F   but it would not surprise me to learn somebody was working on it!!!!  F   Oh, specifics are always useful in a question -- terse questions areK   often rather difficult to answer, requiring either "???????" or an answer L   that covers a wide variety of potential interpretations!!!! of the (terse)L   question.  Which editor, in other words?  Also including the OpenVMS!!!!! K   version and platform is good practice, as there can be differing answers  4   for different versions and/or different platforms.   	---  K   I'm just having a little fun!!!!! with the punctuation&*#$^*&#$^ used in DH   the original question?????, too.  No offense!!!! is intended!!!!!, I'mG   just practicing my spam!!!!! punctuation.  :-)  BTW, I do expect thatIK   some spam filters%%%%% will bounce the original question, and this reply.   N  --------------------------- pure personal opinion ---------------------------L    Hoff (Stephen) Hoffman   OpenVMS Engineering   hoffman#xdelta.zko.dec.com   ------------------------------  % Date: Wed, 12 Jul 2000 11:01:41 +0100 4 From: "Thomas nilsen" <Thomas.Nilsen@kverneland.com> Subject: Find Files utilityR4 Message-ID: <%rXa5.11828$MS3.223246@news1.online.no>  L Does anyone know of a utillity to search/find files on disks for OpenVMS 7.1 AXP?  H I've browsed through the free software archive without finding anything.   Regards, Thomasi
 Kverneland IT"   ------------------------------   Date: 12 Jul 2000 05:41 CSTN' From: carl@gerg.tamu.edu (Carl Perkins)S Subject: Re: Find Files utility'- Message-ID: <12JUL200005410311@gerg.tamu.edu>E  8 "Thomas nilsen" <Thomas.Nilsen@kverneland.com> writes...M }Does anyone know of a utillity to search/find files on disks for OpenVMS 7.1S }AXP?U } I }I've browsed through the free software archive without finding anything.. }  }Regards, Thomas }Kverneland IT     The DIRECTORY command?  $ As in: DIR disk:[000000...]some.file  D If you want something faster, then you can use the DFU utility whichE is on the freware CD and also at the website. Rather than walking the E directory structure looking for the file, it searches the file index. G In either case, you can use wildcards anywhere but the disk part of thes specification.   --- Carl   ------------------------------   Date: 12 Jul 2000 11:24:05 GMT3 From: gartmann@immunbio.mpg.de (Christoph Gartmann)A Subject: Re: Find Files utilitys0 Message-ID: <8khkgl$er5$1@n.ruf.uni-freiburg.de>  k In article <%rXa5.11828$MS3.223246@news1.online.no>, "Thomas nilsen" <Thomas.Nilsen@kverneland.com> writes:IM >Does anyone know of a utillity to search/find files on disks for OpenVMS 7.1U >AXP?) >QI >I've browsed through the free software archive without finding anything.   I Would you like to find files based on their filename or would you like toSI scan the contents of the files for a certain pattern. For the latter haver	 a look atR   $ HELP SEARCHl for the former try   $ HELP DIRECTORYO And in both cases you should know how to specify something like "this directorys plus all subdirectories below":/
   $ DIR [...]    or3   $ SEARCH my_disk:[my_directory...]*.txt my_string    Regards,    Christoph Gartmannr  H -----------------------------------------------------------------------+H | Max-Planck-Institut fuer      Phone   : +49-761-5108-464   Fax: -452 |H | Immunbiologie                                                        |H | Postfach 1169                 Internet: gartmann@immunbio.mpg.de     |H | D-79011  Freiburg, FRG                                               |H +------------ http://www.immunbio.mpg.de/english/menue.html -----------+   ------------------------------  % Date: Wed, 12 Jul 2000 19:54:27 +0200 . From: "Marc Van Dyck" <marc.vandyck@skynet.be> Subject: Re: Find Files utilitya* Message-ID: <8kib6a$b22$1@news1.skynet.be>  I Install DFU from the freeware CD or from the Compaq web site. A real gem.t The SEARCH command in-3 DFU is one of the most powerful tools you can find.r  I Otherwise, look at the DCL commands SEARCH and DIRECTORY in the VMS help.  They're both muchwI slower than DFU, though. If you need to program, the F$SEARCH and F$PARSE  lexicals (if in DCL) orDE their RMS equivalent is what you need. I don't believe that DFU has at  callable interface (it should!).   Marc.     L "Thomas nilsen" <Thomas.Nilsen@kverneland.com> a crit dans le message news:) %rXa5.11828$MS3.223246@news1.online.no...uJ > Does anyone know of a utillity to search/find files on disks for OpenVMS 7.1  > AXP? >gJ > I've browsed through the free software archive without finding anything. >s > Regards, Thomasv > Kverneland ITi >c >.   ------------------------------  # Date: Wed, 12 Jul 2000 15:17:26 GMTy+ From: "Andy Proctor" <aproctor@hotmail.com>S  Subject: FTP to/from Alpha boxes4 Message-ID: <963415115.578102@talita.eclipse.net.uk>   All,  H Thanks for the responses so far. Sorry for the delay, I have to wait for customers to get back to me.E The problem is still there as below. (Sorry for the poor etiquette of G including the original post - I thought I would include it for clarity)e  H I have the most urgent TCPIPTRACE file and have pasted an extract below.L Also the customer says that in the file is the message UCX$FTPD_STARTUP.LOG:K "SYSTEM-F-NOPRIV Insufficient privilege or object protection violation" (heE7 did not send me the full file, just extracts as below.)   = Moreover, FTP still fails in case of self connection command: J "ftp gpssim" --> "I/O error on network device, SYSTEM-F-REJECT, connect to network object rejected"  G GPSSIM is the name of the Alpha, and I can't determine where the NOPRIVeG would be from as UCX was set up in SYSTEM. Maybe I am missing something ? here? They are able to telnet and ping the Alpha from their PC.   $ Extract from TCPIPTRACE output file:  G -----------------------------------------------------------------------o  F     UCX INTERnet trace RCV packet seq # = 3 at 12-JUL-2000 14:15:49.60  D    IP Version = 4,  IHL = 5,  TOS = 00,   Total Length = 48 = ^x00303    IP Identifier  = ^x010A,  Flags (0=0,DF=1,MF=0),eG          Fragment Offset = 0 = ^x0000,   Calculated Offset = 0 = ^x0000eG    IP TTL = 128 = ^x80,  Protocol = 6 = ^x06,  Header Checksum = ^xA56Br)    IP Source Address      = 192.200.1.201x)    IP Destination Address = 192.200.1.200G  5    TCP Source Port = 1031,  TCP Destination Port = 21 3    TCP Sequence Number      = 15150403 = ^x00E72D43 ,    TCP Acknowledge Number   = 0 = ^x000000009    TCP Data Offset = 07,    Calculated Offset = 28 = ^x1C 3        Flags (URG=0,ACK=0,PSH=0,RST=0,SYN=1,FIN=0),-A                                            Window = 8192 = ^x2000t7    TCP Checksum = ^xB7AB,   Urgent Pointer = 0 = ^x0000y  H    TCP Option = 2 MAXSEG Option Length = 4, Segment Size = 1460 = ^x05B4      TCP Option = 1 NODELAYe  H    C901C8C0   A56B0680   0040010A   30000045    0000    E..0..@...k.....H    00000000   432DE700   15000704 | C801C8C0    0010    ..........-C....H  | 02040101   B4050402   0000B7AB   00200270    0020    p...............      K I hope this helps someone determine what the problem is - frankly I am at ao
 loss here!   Best Regards and TIA   Andy Proctor  5 >>>>>>>> From previous posts for clarity >>>>>>>>>>>>  Jesper Naur Wrote:  I Try tracing the TCP/IP traffic as seen from the Alpha using TCPTRACE, form example:  = $ TCPTRACE <IP address of PC> /PACKET=1000/OUTPUT=<some file>x  F When the connection attempt from the PC has been refused, you can kill TCPTRACE with <CTRL/Y>.cI Since the connection is refused immediately, this should not generate toorF much traffic, I would expect at most 3 packets. Let us see the result.       Best regards     Jesper Naurh   Andy Proctor Originally Wrote:   >All,t  I >I hope someone could help me here. We have some customers running VMS ontK >Alpha boxes (From Alpha 3000/300Lx's to PWS500au's and versions 6.2-1h3 to D >7.1-2 VMS) and a small minority are experiencing a strange problem.  H >Using UCX (4.2) they are enabling ftp/telnet for both client and serverK >using UCX$CONFIG, and setting up the relevant IP addresses for thier site.$J >They are able to successfully TELNET into their Alpha from a PC's and ftpK >from the Alpha. But they canot FTP from a PC (or UNIX box) into the Alpha.LE >This is mainly happening on PWS433au units, but now I have this on 1_I >PWS500au and an Alpha 3000/300. (Error messages are "Connection refused"  and  >1 customer gets:  >c:> FTP 192.200.1.200 >ftp : connect : 10061 >quit1 >c:> >cH >As this is happening for more than one customer with different settings I'llJ >not post the UCX settings, but will if requested. Looking at them though,K >there doesn't seem to be anything amiss. That said I am not primarily intopG >networking (we supply a software package to run our hardware using theiI >Alpha) and we dont normally support it's use as the Alphas we supply are F >standalone units. These are good customers though and I want to help.  G >I have looked on the web, and in the UCX FAQ for clues but to no avail > >(isn't there an FTP FAQ somewhere - with the error messages?)  H >I'm not sure if the problem is caused by the settings they are using, aF >problem with hardware or if anything at all to do with VMS. We have a numberA >of systems here of the same type and cannot make them go wrong!!   ; >Any help or suggestions would be most greatfully received.    >Thanksn  
 >Andy Proctor    ------------------------------  % Date: Wed, 12 Jul 2000 09:12:01 +0200m5 From: Oswald Knoppers <Oswald.Knoppers@whitehouse.nl>n- Subject: Re: Help interpret Decnet-plus error - Message-ID: <396C1A41.22AF91EA@whitehouse.nl>o   Robert Deininger wrote:   G > Once of our nodes is racking up a lot of errors, and I can't find outi > what they mean.m >  > Here's some NCL output:  > G > NCL>show node legs9 csma-cd station * Collision Detect Check Failuresp > % > Node legs9 CSMA-CD Station CSMACD-0l( > at 2000-07-11-22:44:22.074-04:00I0.473 > 
 > Counters > 1 >     Collision Detect Check Failures   = 2138620L  D This means that heartbeat is not enabled on the transceiver on whichE this system is connected to the ethernet wire. This is not a problem,l you can safely ignore this.a   Oswald   ------------------------------  % Date: Wed, 12 Jul 2000 10:06:59 +0100d* From: "Richard Brodie" <R.Brodie@rl.ac.uk>- Subject: Re: Help interpret Decnet-plus errors+ Message-ID: <8khcfl$pr6@newton.cc.rl.ac.uk>s  B "Oswald Knoppers" <Oswald.Knoppers@whitehouse.nl> wrote in message' news:396C1A41.22AF91EA@whitehouse.nl...n  3 > >     Collision Detect Check Failures   = 2138620  > F > This means that heartbeat is not enabled on the transceiver on whichG > this system is connected to the ethernet wire. This is not a problem,  > you can safely ignore this.   G Some background: after each transmit, the transceiver can run a test of"K the collision detect pair on the AUI. Usually there will be a switch marked H heartbeat (or SQE Test). Having it disabled will cause the error counterC to be incremented after each transmit, so sent packets == collision  detect errors is fairly normal.p  C If one system became incapable of detecting collisions (e.g. faultylB transceiver, or cable fault) the overall network performance wouldE drop rapidly. If it had been running the test OK up to that point, it ? could be a useful diagnostic. More useful on big thickwire LANsr than today.r   ------------------------------    Date: 12 Jul 2000 11:14:45 -04004 From: "Robert Deininger" <rdeininger@mindspring.com>- Subject: Re: Help interpret Decnet-plus error + Message-ID: <B59203C6-1227AD@165.247.50.18>o  G On Wed, Jul 12, 2000 5:06 AM, Richard Brodie <R.Brodie@rl.ac.uk> wrote:  >iC >"Oswald Knoppers" <Oswald.Knoppers@whitehouse.nl> wrote in messageu( >news:396C1A41.22AF91EA@whitehouse.nl... >u4 >> >     Collision Detect Check Failures   = 2138620 >>G >> This means that heartbeat is not enabled on the transceiver on which1H >> this system is connected to the ethernet wire. This is not a problem, >> you can safely ignore this. >pH >Some background: after each transmit, the transceiver can run a test ofE >the collision detect pair on the AUI. Usually there will be a switche markedI >heartbeat (or SQE Test). Having it disabled will cause the error countereD >to be incremented after each transmit, so sent packets == collision  >detect errors is fairly normal. >iD >If one system became incapable of detecting collisions (e.g. faultyC >transceiver, or cable fault) the overall network performance wouldnF >drop rapidly. If it had been running the test OK up to that point, it@ >could be a useful diagnostic. More useful on big thickwire LANs >than today.  E Thanks for the answers.  I always wondered what that little switch is ? for.  I've always been told to leave it disabled.  Now I wonderv: why I don't have a lot more machines reporting this error.     ---------------------------  Robert Deininger rdeininger@mindspring.com    ------------------------------   Date: 12 Jul 2000 03:31 CSTf' From: carl@gerg.tamu.edu (Carl Perkins) ' Subject: Re: Hobbyist TCP IP licenses ?c- Message-ID: <12JUL200003313798@gerg.tamu.edu>l  2 smith_j@removeit.cqm.co.uk (James Smith) writes...J }>  You have a typo of some sort -- a simple typo or transcription error, I }>  a necessary field that is blank, or a field that should be blank thatn" }>  is erroneously filled in, etc. }> } 
 }i know :) } K }i've  checked & triple checked everything & it's still was having none of   }it  } / }must right in front of my face blindness......  } H }i'm going to the pub  5er says i spot it right away when i come back... }  }James S  A You probably already know this, but the traditional errors are tof, use one of these where another was intended:   letter O vs. number 0W and/or letter l vs. number 1s  E Checking all the 0/O and 1/l values in the license is the first thing-  I look for when it doesn't work.  M Also, always match the case of every letter in every place that uses letters.RH (As far as I can recall, only upper case letters are used in a PAK - but I may be mistaken).q   --- Carl   ------------------------------  % Date: Wed, 12 Jul 2000 09:36:16 -0600s- From: Lorin Ricker <Lorin.Ricker@t-netix.com>i' Subject: Re: Hobbyist TCP IP licenses ?tI Message-ID: <418E68E524A8D311ACCE00508B78866A7680A7@exchange.t-netix.com>e  . > Also, always match the case of every letter # > in every place that uses letters.m1 >(As far as I can recall, only upper case letters - > are used in a PAK - but I may be mistaken).   H No, you're not mistaken, but VMSLICENSE.COM accepts user input in eitherJ case, then UPCASEs it before using it (esp. on the checksum), so you can'tB go wrong entering PAKs in upper *or* lower case.  But do proofread
 carefully!   regards,   Lorin Ricker   ------------------------------  % Date: Wed, 12 Jul 2000 04:39:54 -0500a% From: Chris Scheers <asi@airmail.net>o/ Subject: Re: How to disable DecWindows for OPA0uO Message-ID: <D58995E50C338FBC.B7A56D9AFFAE88D1.167B9706234A140B@lp.airnews.net>o   Eddy wrote:s > ; > I know I've done this before, but I can't remember how...y; > I need to disable DecWindows for OPA0: I have an AXP withV( > VGA and I just want a terminal screen.  G If you are asking how to stop DECwindows from starting, look at settingn( the SYSGEN parameter WINDOW_SYSTEM to 0.  G -----------------------------------------------------------------------g$ Chris Scheers, Applied Synergy, Inc.  G 817-237-3360 (Voice)    817-237-3074 (Fax)    Internet: asi@airmail.neti   ------------------------------   Date: 12 Jul 2000 14:29:46 GMT From: clark@sander.stsci.edu ()a" Subject: IDE CD-ROM audio support?) Message-ID: <8khvcq$679$2@tomm.stsci.edu>i  D   Well I finally have sound coming out of my Alpha 600Au workstationB with the latest version of MMOV. Thanks to all that did this work.= Now I would like to play my music CDROMs.  Just where is the tB IDE/ADTAPI CD-ROM audio support software that is described in the % latest version of the OpenVMS Times? h      I went to the artical's link -9 http://www.openvms.compaq.com/openvms/freeware/index.htmlp6 and found no mention of this software. The source codeB of IDE Disk Driver program DQDRIVER on the freeware CDROM doesn't ? seem to have been updated. Neither has the version of XMCD, the  X11/Motif CD Audio Player.   Thanks for your help.r   Kerry Clark  clark@stsci.edu    ------------------------------  # Date: Wed, 12 Jul 2000 06:16:29 GMTf0 From: carlini@true.lkg.dec.com (Antonio Carlini)= Subject: Re: Looking for VMS source code (any version really)i) Message-ID: <8kh1rc$qs@usenet.pa.dec.com>e  ] In article <396B494D.1BF8E81@trailing-edge.com>, Tim Shoppa <shoppa@trailing-edge.com> wrote:, >Brian Tillman wrote:i >> sL >> >  The gap is (obviously) widening as more features are added and as userI >> >  and kernel changes are made to OpenVMS Alpha, of course -- usually,hJ >> >  this change is also a case of the feature being available on OpenVMS# >> >  Alpha and not on OpenVMS VAX.  >>  ' >> Mostly for no good technical reason.r >%A >Hey, there are features of OpenVMS VAX that still have not found-? >their way to OpenVMS Alpha.  One of them is ODS-1 support....!-  7 I'm not expecting ODS-1 support on Alpha any time soon!a  J The gap widens today because when some new feature comes along that won't O simply just work on VAX, someone has to decide whether the extra effort to get :M it working *and tested* on VAX is a better investment than whatever the next o project on the list may be.t  J ODS-5 is a good example. The improved SCSI drivers are (probably) another.     Antonioe      I Antonio Carlini                            Mail: carlini@true.lkg.dec.com-# DECnet-Plus for OpenVMS Engineeringl6 COMPAQ                                     Reading, UK   ------------------------------   Date: 12 Jul 2000 02:45 CST3' From: carl@gerg.tamu.edu (Carl Perkins)o= Subject: Re: Looking for VMS source code (any version really)i- Message-ID: <12JUL200002455531@gerg.tamu.edu>   = Kilgallen@eisner.decus.org.nospam (Larry Kilgallen) writes... L }In article <396AAC89.54B6BF87@vrx.net>, Beyonder <beyonder@vrx.net> writes: }> Any source version will do.H }> Hell, I'll take v3.1 if someone can get me a CD (ultra-cheap or free) } D }I think you have not been paying attention regarding the version at/ }which they switched from microfiche to CD-ROM.o  ? I don't think CDs had been invented yet when V3.1 was released.s   --- Carl   ------------------------------  % Date: Wed, 12 Jul 2000 20:09:22 +0010-% From: paddy.o'brien@zzz.tg.nsw.gov.au0= Subject: Re: Looking for VMS source code (any version really)a5 Message-ID: <01JROXD4NO5U001NR0@tgmail.tg.nsw.gov.au>h   Wayne Sewell wrote:i  M >Microslop probably has an additional reason to not release the source code. <5 >They would probably be embarrassed if anyone saw it.o  O He would also probably be embarrassed at going public with the comments in his r code:h   !  copied from MAC !  copied from IBM !  copied from Digital+ !  copied from SUN (just for you Andrew :-)a  
 etc., etc.  P His two lines of original code (excludes comments in the count) could be listed  (I'm a Fortranner):E          Subroutine Mine  K ! I actually wrote this code, wow, even without Jennifer's help. BILL GATESt  L !  Original author: Bill Gates (minimal help from Paul Allen -- generosity).  M !  Revised and extended without help from MAC, DIGITAL, IBM, SUN:  BILL GATESh  Q        END  ! Now I know why I didn't need a Fortran compiler.  Too complicated 	+ 	! for this brilliant code.    Regards, Paddy   Paddy O'Brien, Transmission Development, 
 TransGrid, PO Box A1000, Sydney South,  NSW 2000, Australiaa   Tel:   +61 2 9284-3063 Fax:   +61 2 9284-3050& Email: paddy.o'brien@zzz.tg.nsw.gov.au  M Either "\'" or "\s" (to escape the apostrophe) seems to work for most people,i; but that little whizz-bang apostrophe gives me little spam.-   ------------------------------  # Date: Wed, 12 Jul 2000 13:23:40 GMTy- From: "Richard D. Piccard" <piccard@ohio.edu> = Subject: Re: Looking for VMS source code (any version really)n( Message-ID: <396C715B.F1F60C8C@ohio.edu>   Carl Perkins wrote:l > ? > Kilgallen@eisner.decus.org.nospam (Larry Kilgallen) writes... N > }In article <396AAC89.54B6BF87@vrx.net>, Beyonder <beyonder@vrx.net> writes:  > }> Any source version will do.J > }> Hell, I'll take v3.1 if someone can get me a CD (ultra-cheap or free) > }aF > }I think you have not been paying attention regarding the version at1 > }which they switched from microfiche to CD-ROM.. > A > I don't think CDs had been invented yet when V3.1 was released.d  F IIRC, VMS 3.1 would have been around 1982, so I would think that audioF CDs might quite possibly have invented if not marketed.  Data CD-ROMs, definitely neither.    				RDPu > 
 > --- Carl   -- cB ==================================================================B Dick Piccard                           Academic Technology ManagerB piccard@ohio.edu                                 Computer ServicesB http://oak.cats.ohiou.edu/~piccard/                Ohio University   ------------------------------  % Date: Wed, 12 Jul 2000 19:20:57 +0930dA From: "Geoff Roberts" <geoffrobx@stmarksx.ppx.catholicx.edux.aux> , Subject: Mac-Decnet via Webster Multiport LT3 Message-ID: <7cXa5.34022$N4.1325397@ozemail.com.au>   B Bit confused where to post this one.  In a mac or a vms group.....  , I have a Vax 6430 with Decnet/VMS6.1/UCX 3.3  B I have a few macs (various models) on an appletalk network, with a connection to aI Webster multiport/lt  D A netware 4.11 server, appletalk enabled, that talks to the macs via( the ethernet gateway in the webster box.   Some win95/98 boxes.  5 A Webster Multiport/LT Appletalk to Ethernet gateway.tA It handles appletalk, ipx, ip and (!) Decnet. I've configured the 7 webster for decnet ok, AFAIK,  The decnet router on thew9 Vax at 42.9 sees the Webster at 42.12 (adjacent node) ok..  C Can someone clue me in as to what I need on the Macs to make use oft4 the Decnet gateway?  Some sort of client presumably?   Any advice appreciated.-   Cheers  
 Geoff Roberts- Computer Systems Manager Saint Mark's College Port Pirie,p South Australiat6 geoffrob at stmarks dot pp dot catholic dot edu dot au ICQ: 1970476   ------------------------------  % Date: Wed, 12 Jul 2000 14:48:49 +0200=" From: "Hans Vlems" <hvlems@iae.nl>0 Subject: Re: Mac-Decnet via Webster Multiport LT( Message-ID: <8khp9h$6l4$1@news.IAEhv.nl>  H You need DECnet for the MAC. There used to be a product in the Pathworks familyH that supported the MAC. I believe it is no longer available, but perhaps	 some kind  soul can give you the kit.L There may be third party vendors that still sell a DECnet stack for the MAC.  I Personally I prefer DECnet, but then again the rest of the world seems toC turn* to IP, which may be the way to go for you.  
 Hans Vlems  ) Geoff Roberts heeft geschreven in berichte* <7cXa5.34022$N4.1325397@ozemail.com.au>...C >Bit confused where to post this one.  In a mac or a vms group.....  >x- >I have a Vax 6430 with Decnet/VMS6.1/UCX 3.3C > C >I have a few macs (various models) on an appletalk network, with a0 >connection to a >Webster multiport/lt0 > E >A netware 4.11 server, appletalk enabled, that talks to the macs via ) >the ethernet gateway in the webster box.  >e >Some win95/98 boxes.p >l6 >A Webster Multiport/LT Appletalk to Ethernet gateway.B >It handles appletalk, ipx, ip and (!) Decnet. I've configured the8 >webster for decnet ok, AFAIK,  The decnet router on the: >Vax at 42.9 sees the Webster at 42.12 (adjacent node) ok. > D >Can someone clue me in as to what I need on the Macs to make use of5 >the Decnet gateway?  Some sort of client presumably?  >  >Any advice appreciated. >/ >Cheersc >h >Geoff Roberts >Computer Systems Managerh >Saint Mark's College  >Port Pirie, >South Australia7 >geoffrob at stmarks dot pp dot catholic dot edu dot aus
 >ICQ: 1970476u >  >n   ------------------------------  % Date: Wed, 12 Jul 2000 11:45:24 -0400e' From: Paul <pmosteika@evms.zko.dec.com>  Subject: Re: mimeA0 Message-ID: <396C5A54.6211FC5A@evms.zko.dec.com>  9 Thank you for your feedback on the OpenVMS MIME utility. t  C I often hear the question about its integration with MAIL. MIME washG originally proposed to be integrated with the MAIL utility, however forrA maintenance reasons, stability, and probably other reasons, (risktF assessment versus anticipated usage volume), the decision was made not
 to integrate.b  B MIME uses Screen Management ($SMG) calls and doesn't bother to setD SMG$M_KEEP_CONTENTS flag for the SMG$CREATE_PASTEBOARD. Possibly theA original thought was that the intent was to edit a new message or2E display one, and the screen would soon be filled with data. I haven'tnF given it much thought until lately. There have been other, more severe? defects to fix. Most of these problems, inluding ACCVIOs, error I handling/exiting, looping, and others you may have seen have been fixed. p  F As far as the recall buffer and keypad definitions, the recall buffer H feature will be taken into consideration for a future update. The keypadF definitions may not be incorporated, considering the limited number of, commands. But we will consider this as well.  E The latest available version of MIME is version V1.32 (and soon theretF will be V1.4 available). The number of problems fixed are too numerousE to mention. Although I can post them if there is a real interest. Youl can use the commands:e   	MIME> SHOW VERSION  ...or $ 	$ ANALYZE/IMAGE SYS$SYSTEM:MIME.EXE  F MIME prompts for filenames if one is not decoded in the headers of the4 attachment and if one was not (optionally) provided.  D Yes the same security risks are involved with PostScript files, .EXEC files and others, as with other systems that decode MIME files fromtE external mail. You can optionally define what types/subtyes are to beDG handled (SHOW CONTENT), and helper applications that are to be invoked,dG in the MIME$MAILCAP.DAT file. You also have control of what you extract F and OpenVMS has the luxury of keeping multiple file versions. From the< now obsolete RFC 1341, pertaining to the 'application' type:  7 application --  some  other  kind  of  data,  typicallysB                 either uninterpreted binary data or information toB                 be processed by  a  mail-based  application.   TheB                 primary  subtype, "octet-stream", is to be used inB                 the case of uninterpreted binary  data,  in  whichB                 case  the  simplest recommended action is to offerB                 to write the information into a file for the user.B                 Two  additional  subtypes, "ODA" and "PostScript",B                 are defined for transporting  ODA  and  PostScriptB                 documents  in  bodies.   Other  expected  uses forB                 "application"  include  spreadsheets,   data   forB                 mail-based  scheduling  systems, and languages forB                 "active" (computational) email.  (Note that activeB                 email   entails   several  securityconsiderations,B                 which  are   discussed   later   in   this   memo,B                 particularly      in      the      context      of(                 application/PostScript.)           			Paul Mosteika   			12-July-2000    ------------------------------  % Date: Wed, 12 Jul 2000 12:08:55 -0300u1 From: "Boyle, Darren" <boyledj@bankofbermuda.com>o. Subject: Minimum Page/Swap File Size in BlocksK Message-ID: <9F664D538536D411BD3200508B6FF01A333663@bdant027.bda.bobda.com>o   Hi,u  D 	What's the absolute minimum file size in blocks of the Primary pageF & swap files for OpenVMS 7.1 (VAX) and 7.1-2 (Alpha).  The systems areL configures with 448Mb & 4096Mb respectively.  Obviously this should still beG big enough to accommodate the start-up process  until SYPAGESWPFILES isr& called to install the secondary files. TIA, Darren    F **********************************************************************C This message and any files transmitted with it are confidential and J may be privileged and/or subject to the provisions of privacy legislation.M They are intended solely for the use of the individual or entity to whom theyrL are addressed. If the reader of this message is not the intended recipient, B please notify the sender immediately and then delete this message.I You are notified that reliance on, disclosure of, distribution or copying) of this message is prohibited.   Bank of Bermuda F **********************************************************************   ------------------------------  # Date: Wed, 12 Jul 2000 17:12:04 GMTt1 From: "Mark D. Jilson" <jilly@clarityconnect.com>b2 Subject: Re: Minimum Page/Swap File Size in Blocks2 Message-ID: <396CA6AF.83841B4D@clarityconnect.com>  H The answer is 0 ;*)  I've config'd many a system with enough free memoryD such that they'll never page or swap and run them for a time w/o anyD page or swap files.  Unless this system is very under configured forD physical memory or over configured for things that come off the freeF list at boot time you should be able to run w/o any page/sawp files onE the system disk if you install them in SYPAGSWPFILES.COM as this gets0 called very early in STARTUP.a   "Boyle, Darren" wrote: >  > Hi,H > M >         What's the absolute minimum file size in blocks of the Primary page_H > & swap files for OpenVMS 7.1 (VAX) and 7.1-2 (Alpha).  The systems areN > configures with 448Mb & 4096Mb respectively.  Obviously this should still beI > big enough to accommodate the start-up process  until SYPAGESWPFILES ist( > called to install the secondary files. > TIA, > Darren > H > **********************************************************************E > This message and any files transmitted with it are confidential andiL > may be privileged and/or subject to the provisions of privacy legislation.O > They are intended solely for the use of the individual or entity to whom theyeM > are addressed. If the reader of this message is not the intended recipient,eD > please notify the sender immediately and then delete this message.K > You are notified that reliance on, disclosure of, distribution or copyinga  > of this message is prohibited. >  > Bank of BermudaeH > **********************************************************************   -- -D Jilly	- Working from Home in the Chemung River Valley - Lockwood, NY0 	- jilly@clarityconnect.com			- Brett Bodine fan. 	- Mark.Jilson@Compaq.com			- since 1975 or so, 	- http://www.jilly.baka.com               -   ------------------------------   Date: 12 Jul 2000 17:46:45 GMT2 From: hoffman@xdelta.zko.dec.nospam (Hoff Hoffman)2 Subject: Re: Minimum Page/Swap File Size in Blocks6 Message-ID: <8kiau5$2ve$2@mailint03.im.hou.compaq.com>   In article <9F664D538536D411BD3200508B6FF01A333663@bdant027.bda.bobda.com>, "Boyle, Darren" <boyledj@bankofbermuda.com> writes: E :	What's the absolute minimum file size in blocks of the Primary pagee6 :& swap files for OpenVMS 7.1 (VAX) and 7.1-2 (Alpha).  F   Zero.  You can quite successfully boot with no primary pagefile and F   no primary swapfile present on the system disk, assuming the OpenVMSA   system has a reasonable amount of physical memory configured.  a  F   You do want to have at least a pagefile connected before you create F   processes that will need to be running for a while and/or utilizing C   large amounts of virtual memory, lest the processes involved (or kC   potentially the OpenVMS system) comes to a grinding halt when allN0   available (free) physical memory is exhausted.  G   SYPAGSWPFILES.COM (qv: .TEMPLATE) runs early on enough in the OpenVMSpD   bootstrap process that it can (and should be) used to connect the H   necessary secondary pagefile(s) and (if desired/required) swapfile(s).  N  --------------------------- pure personal opinion ---------------------------L    Hoff (Stephen) Hoffman   OpenVMS Engineering   hoffman#xdelta.zko.dec.com   ------------------------------  # Date: Wed, 12 Jul 2000 11:59:24 GMTM% From: hx_101@hotmail.com (Horse Nuts)  Subject: MX Recordsl+ Message-ID: <396c5d7f.75357167@news.dal.ca>/  ( Where (disk and file) are these kept????   Thanks   ------------------------------   Date: 12 Jul 2000 06:49:12 GMT0 From: FAZEKAS Mihaly <michael@goliat.eik.bme.hu> Subject: nfs and image mount, Message-ID: <8kh4d8$t3r$1@goliat.eik.bme.hu>   I have 2 quiestion:v  # Can i mount unix like nfs from VMS?OA Can i mount raw image from VMS? (make with unix/linux dd command)M   --    mailto:michael@goliat.eik.bme.hu Phone: 463-1966p   ------------------------------  # Date: Wed, 12 Jul 2000 11:53:08 GMT % From: "P.Lj" <plj@byron.ext.telia.se>r2 Subject: Re: Open-source Database system available2 Message-ID: <396C5C28.E8D596F8@byron.ext.telia.se>  I I believe that Interbase is already running on VMS Alpha, I know at leastF one who is using it.  	 >>> ^P.Lj      "Arthur E. Ragosta" wrote:  I > Perhaps this has already been posted, but Inprise/Borland has announcedr > therJ > availability of an open-source beta for InterBase 6.0.  It would be some > kindH > of awesome if someone with free time (what's that?) could port this to > VMS.7 > Current versions are for Solaris, Windows, and Linux.> >s* >  http://www.interbase.com/opn/downloads/ >h > ar   ------------------------------   Date: 12 Jul 2000 16:22:38 GMT2 From: mathog@seqaxp.bio.caltech.edu (David Mathog)2 Subject: Re: Open-source Database system available, Message-ID: <8ki60e$guo@gap.cco.caltech.edu>  m In article <396A6415.72546942@merlin.arc.nasa.gov>, "Arthur E. Ragosta" <ragosta@merlin.arc.nasa.gov> writes:oH >Perhaps this has already been posted, but Inprise/Borland has announced >theI >availability of an open-source beta for InterBase 6.0.  It would be somee >kinddG >of awesome if someone with free time (what's that?) could port this to  >VMS. 6 >Current versions are for Solaris, Windows, and Linux. >o) > http://www.interbase.com/opn/downloads/  >  >ar  >   <    http://www.interbase.com/open/dev/highlevel_overview.html   quote:       Lock Manager aV       In the lock directory. Used for classic architecture versions to coordinate pageK       access (and such things). Based on the VMS distributed lock manager. d  L I don't know if this implies some sort of multinode support or if it's just H to keep different processes from stepping on each other.  Here's hoping D that it can be ifdef'd out and the native lock manager used instead!   Regards,   David Mathog mathog@seqaxp.bio.caltech.edud? Manager, sequence analysis facility, biology division, Caltech M   ------------------------------   Date: 12 Jul 2000 10:10:07 GMT0 From: FAZEKAS Mihaly <michael@goliat.eik.bme.hu>  Subject: ppp dialup on VAX again, Message-ID: <8khg5v$b64$1@goliat.eik.bme.hu>  . If i have OpenVMS VAX version 7.1, and ucx050: how can i use ppp for dialup?J  6 I'm read the ucx documentation, but the documentation:7 ppp can use OpenVMS Alpha version only. (about 1999.03)o   Can i find VAX binaries of ppp?    -- r  mailto:michael@goliat.eik.bme.hu Phone: 463-1966d   ------------------------------   Date: 12 Jul 2000 11:27:06 GMT3 From: gartmann@immunbio.mpg.de (Christoph Gartmann)M$ Subject: Re: ppp dialup on VAX again0 Message-ID: <8khkma$er5$2@n.ruf.uni-freiburg.de>  _ In article <8khg5v$b64$1@goliat.eik.bme.hu>, FAZEKAS Mihaly <michael@goliat.eik.bme.hu> writes:)/ >If i have OpenVMS VAX version 7.1, and ucx050:e >how can i use ppp for dialup? >f7 >I'm read the ucx documentation, but the documentation:(8 >ppp can use OpenVMS Alpha version only. (about 1999.03) >d  >Can i find VAX binaries of ppp?  " If you switch to Multinet, yes ;-)   Regards,    Christoph Gartmanne  H -----------------------------------------------------------------------+H | Max-Planck-Institut fuer      Phone   : +49-761-5108-464   Fax: -452 |H | Immunbiologie                                                        |H | Postfach 1169                 Internet: gartmann@immunbio.mpg.de     |H | D-79011  Freiburg, FRG                                               |H +------------ http://www.immunbio.mpg.de/english/menue.html -----------+   ------------------------------  # Date: Wed, 12 Jul 2000 16:26:11 GMTc From: jlodom@amherst.edu$ Subject: RE: ppp dialup on VAX again) Message-ID: <396c993c@amhnt2.amherst.edu>g  K And to add to his question: Is it possible to use PPP on a Vaxstation 3100 n running Multinet? D (And where would I find I good modem to connect to said Vaxstation?)   PYT WOTL Johnnie Odom (jlodom@amherst.edu)  + In Article <8khg5v$b64$1@goliat.eik.bme.hu>v2 FAZEKAS Mihaly <michael@goliat.eik.bme.hu> writes:/ >If i have OpenVMS VAX version 7.1, and ucx050:t >how can i use ppp for dialup? >i7 >I'm read the ucx documentation, but the documentation:'8 >ppp can use OpenVMS Alpha version only. (about 1999.03) >   >Can i find VAX binaries of ppp?   ------------------------------   Date: 12 Jul 2000 16:38:01 GMT3 From: gartmann@immunbio.mpg.de (Christoph Gartmann)n$ Subject: RE: ppp dialup on VAX again0 Message-ID: <8ki6t9$me9$1@n.ruf.uni-freiburg.de>  D In article <396c993c@amhnt2.amherst.edu>, jlodom@amherst.edu writes: >eL >And to add to his question: Is it possible to use PPP on a Vaxstation 3100  >running Multinet?E >(And where would I find I good modem to connect to said Vaxstation?)-  I I suppose it is, although there might be a problem with the serial ports.rL On some models these ports don't have all the wiring for full modem control.N I managed to connect a dial-in and dial-out modem to such a port successfully.. But I didn't try PPP, only terminal sesssions.  K As for the modem brand: here in Germany I prefer Elsa modems. They are verycJ solid and offer a huge amount of configurable parameters (important if you? don't have a real modem port on your computer). As they use thet; Rockwell chipset I would suggest a modem with this chipset..   Regards,    Christoph Gartmanne  H -----------------------------------------------------------------------+H | Max-Planck-Institut fuer      Phone   : +49-761-5108-464   Fax: -452 |H | Immunbiologie                                                        |H | Postfach 1169                 Internet: gartmann@immunbio.mpg.de     |H | D-79011  Freiburg, FRG                                               |H +------------ http://www.immunbio.mpg.de/english/menue.html -----------+   ------------------------------  # Date: Wed, 12 Jul 2000 16:44:15 GMT = From: system@SendSpamHere.ORG (Brian Schenkenberger, VAXman-)-$ Subject: RE: ppp dialup on VAX again0 Message-ID: <009ECF87.59DF0461@SendSpamHere.ORG>  D In article <396c993c@amhnt2.amherst.edu>, jlodom@amherst.edu writes: >$L >And to add to his question: Is it possible to use PPP on a Vaxstation 3100  >running Multinet?E >(And where would I find I good modem to connect to said Vaxstation?)t >r  D FWIW, if you're willing to spend a few $$$s (~$250), there are boxesD with will do this for you.  One such unit is the 3com OfficeConnect C 56K LAN modem.  This box automatically logs into the ISP and estab-IC lishes a PPP connection.  The VAX, or Alpha, or any other box which C can speak the TCP/IP lingo, connects to the LAN modem via 10bT RJ45.E connections on the LAN modem.  You can connect up to 4 devices to the E 3com LAN modem and it will provide DHCP service, NAT, and *on demand* C dialup to the ISP.  There are similar offerings from other mfg's, Io0 believe intel has one I've seen in catalogs too.  F With such boxes you get a modem (V.90), hub, minimal routing features,E NAT, DHCP server, and a slew of other little features like the on de-i: mand connection with very little hassle and configuration.  E BTW, I'm no 3com fan.  I've just had one of these units to play with.F   --O VAXman- OpenVMS APE certification number: AAA-0001     VAXman(at)TMESIS(dot)COMo   ------------------------------  / Date: Wed, 12 Jul 2000 16:37:05 +0200 (MET DST)c& From: Rudolf Wingert <win@fom.fgan.de>* Subject: Sorry for using this node as test6 Message-ID: <200007121437.QAA03069@sinet1.fom.fgan.de>   Hello,   this is a test only ignore all   TIA and regards Rudolf Wingert   ------------------------------   Date: 12 Jul 2000 07:52:38 CDT= From: wayne@tachysoft.xxx.560753.killspam.00bb (Wayne Sewell)0 Subject: Re: stop/id problem. Message-ID: <HWDJwV7cuQlA@tachxxsoftxxconsult>  f In article <8kga1c$2pf$1@gossamer.itmel.bhp.com.au>, "David Bodey" <bodey.david.dj@bhp.com.au> writes:H > I have noticed that if you use the lexcial f$getjpi (or the equivilantJ > system service) on a swapped out process, it can cause the process to beG > swapped in. I think this happens because the system service needs theuG > process swapped in so it can collect the necessary information. Using N > ANAL/SYS (SDA) and performing a SHOW PROC/CHANN on the process can also have* > the same affect after a couple of tries. >   G It depends on *which* particular items you ask for with f$getjpi.  Some2N information is contained in the process control block (PCB), which is residentL in memory for the life of the process, whether it is swapped out or not.  IfN you ask only for items contained in the pcb, there is absolutely no reason forG an inswap, since the request can be satisfied without it.  Otherwise...b  O Same thing with SDA.  "sho process" would not require the process to be swappedeL in, since this is essentially a dump of the pcb.  "sho proc/<anything-else>"O proably would.  "sho proc/phd" would require at least the process header (there M is such a thing as a partial inswap, i.e. the process header only and not the M body of the process).  Obviously, examining memory locations in process spaceh* would require the process be brought in.      C > It is also good to use ANAL/SYS to check if the processes has anyAM > outstanding I/O to a device. Stopping the process while waiting on I/O on adM > disk or tape, or on an AST can leave you with a process in a bad state such I > as RWAST and then you can have great difficulty completely removing it.e > N > There are system services available to request a process to perform a forcedL > exit, thus allowing the process to perform a clean rundown. Can't remember > the name of it.i >      -- tO ===============================================================================xM Wayne Sewell, Tachyon Software Consulting  (281)812-0738  wayne@tachysoft.xxx : http://www.tachysoft.xxx/www/tachyon.html and wayne.html  K change .xxx to .com in addresses above, assuming you are not a spambot  :-) O ===============================================================================bO Otter, on dining with Bluto:"It's perfectly safe if you keep your arms and legsr 			away from his mouth."   ------------------------------  + Date: Wed, 12 Jul 2000 10:14:27 -0400 (EDT)  From: quayle@infinet.com Subject: Re: stop/id problemL Message-ID: <Pine.GSO.4.10.10007121012200.17400-100000@shell.oh.voyager.net>  P > > There are system services available to request a process to perform a forced? > > exit, thus allowing the process to perform a clean rundown.i  
 SYS$FORCEX  H I wrote a short C program to use this instead of STOP/ID.  Also good forF getting an interactive session to kill the current executing image and return to the $ prompt.    ------------------------------   Date: 12 Jul 2000 16:56:30 GMT2 From: mathog@seqaxp.bio.caltech.edu (David Mathog)C Subject: RE: Summer 2000 OpenVMS TIMES Now Available on CPQ Website,, Message-ID: <8ki7vu$guo@gap.cco.caltech.edu>  x In article <910612C07BCAD1119AF40000F86AF0D805284506@kaoexc4.kao.dec.com>, "Main, Kerry" <Kerry.Main@compaq.com> writes: >Bill, >- >Some pointers you asked for ..0 >1M >>>> I was not aware of the Compaq side of this investment (save for whatevernG >convincing it might have taken to get Oracle to include VMS):  is more8 >detail available? <<< >bE ><http://www.oracle.com/corporate/press/index.html?228177.html> jointo7 >services and reference lab for testing, developing ectdM ><http://www.compaq.com/services/feature/index_oracle.html> Compaq investment  >in services for Oraclel   Quote:  $ Expect expert consulting and support7   Compaq Professional Services consultants and solutiond>   architects will be trained and certified on Oracle iAS. This:   in-depth knowledge of Oracle solutions complements their:   extensive training and field-proven experience with Java3   application servers running across Compaq server i>   platforms,including Windows NT/2000, Tru64 UNIX, and OpenVMS   operating systems. r  H My first reaction to this is that, hey, didn't we hear this before?  No ? wait, that was for NT training for the same folks in one of thesL Digital/Microsoft deals. It didn't do anything positive for Digital, near as I can tell.   E Over the last couple of years I've watched horrified (but from a safe*G distance!) as several tens of millions of Caltech dollars poured into a I black hole of an Oracle project.  There may be more expensive ways to gettF to a working system, but it's hard to imagine anybody willingly takingI them.   Now, for end users that just means "stay away from Oracle unless  F you have no choice", but from Compaq's point of view it means "there'sI money to be made!".  Compaq training these consultants probably does makehK sense as there is a reasonable probability that they will be able to syphonrK off some of that lucrative consulting money into their own coffers.  (Which/G makes me wonder what Oracle gets out of the deal - a large lump of cashFH perhaps?)   Moreover, the only growth lately in OpenVMS systems has beenF for huge installations, many of which probably use Oracle anyway, so aJ small investment in training probably will result in a fairly large income stream.   H The possible downside is that sites which feel like they've been bled toH the last drop may be disinclined to implement other projects in quite soG expensive a manner.  When it was clearly Oracle doing the bleeding then,G OpenVMS wouldn't be blamed, but this agreement, and the consultant work** which should result, will blur that line.    Regards,   David Mathog mathog@seqaxp.bio.caltech.edue? Manager, sequence analysis facility, biology division, Caltech h   ------------------------------  % Date: Wed, 12 Jul 2000 13:07:32 +0100e4 From: "Thomas nilsen" <Thomas.Nilsen@kverneland.com>. Subject: template device cannot be allocated -4 Message-ID: <%hZa5.11902$MS3.224093@news1.online.no>  I I'm trying to mount a CD using "mount /over=id /nolabel rdc0" but get thef following error:  8 MOUNT-F-TEMPLATEDEV, template device cannot be allocated  J Anyone got any ideas as to what this can be and how to get the CD to mount	 properly?e   Thomas   ------------------------------  % Date: Wed, 12 Jul 2000 13:55:18 +0000n$ From: Steve.Spires@yellowpages.co.uk2 Subject: Re: template device cannot be allocated -/ Message-ID: <0025691A.004C937A.00@quegw01.btyp>2  = Contact:   Tel: 3063  -  VSSG, 1st Floor, Bridge Street Plaza    Thomas,u  O Are you sure the correct device name is RDC0? It's telling you that this device0O is the template device, not the REAL device, or at least that's what it thinks.2  + Post the results of a $ SHOW DEVICE/FULL RDo   Steve Spires VMS System Manager BT/Yellow Pages         E "Thomas nilsen" <Thomas.Nilsen@kverneland.com> on 12/07/2000 12:07:32n    To:        Info-VAX@Mvb.Saic.Com+ cc:         (bcc: Steve Spires/YellowPages)fN From:      "Thomas nilsen" <Thomas.Nilsen@kverneland.com>, 12 July 2000, 12:07            p.m.r  % template device cannot be allocated -g        I I'm trying to mount a CD using "mount /over=id /nolabel rdc0" but get the  following error:  8 MOUNT-F-TEMPLATEDEV, template device cannot be allocated  J Anyone got any ideas as to what this can be and how to get the CD to mount	 properly?    Thomas   ------------------------------  % Date: Wed, 12 Jul 2000 13:44:47 +0200a6 From: Graham Van Der Vaart <Graham.vd.Vaart@ast.co.za> Subject: UCX socketsP Message-ID: <47DBB722BF1BD21199E00080C8372C1B31A5C9@ntsnexc1.new.iscorltd.co.za>   Hi  L I have a problem developing a socket dispatcher using UCX Auxiliary service. What I want is....K Windows client always initiates. Auxiliary service on OpenVMS listens as inM UNIX inetd on port 7650.  I set up the service as follows:   ucx set service SSDS2 -e /port=7650 - /prot=TCP -M /flag=listen - /user=tcpip$inetd -s) /file=dra1:[users.x.taap300]taap300.com -5 /process=taap300 -1 /log=(file=dra1:[users.x.taap300]taap300.log,all)   - On the client side ......... 	gethostbyname()e 				get servbyname() 				htons()A 				socket()
 				connect()e
 				send()  % On the server side.........		select() 
 				recv()  7 But my select times out waiting for data. ie returns 0. I Here is my select ... nFound = select(32, &fdReadFds, 0 , 0 ,&tTimeOut );i  ; Just too mention that this all works on UNIX successfully. n Any help would be valuable.-  - If I telnet <hostname> 7650 from another host0D I  can see the Socket buffer bytes when sho dev <device_socket> /con   Regards  Graham   ------------------------------  % Date: Wed, 12 Jul 2000 10:43:36 +0200h8 From: "Kris G.G. Clippeleyr (aka Qkcl)" <kesu@xs4all.be>Q Subject: Re: UNICENTER PERFORMANCE DATA COLLECTOR - DOES NOT INSTALL ON VMS 7.2!!p* Message-ID: <8khb67$k56$1@news1.xs4all.nl>   Hi,   K Maybe that's correct (version to old for V7.2-1) but according to CA that's.A the most recent version they have. So, I think I'm stuck with it.(  
 Greetings,   -- Kris G.G. Clippeleyr (aka Qkcl)e& VMS Wizard in training, Guru wanna be!  # In a world without walls and fencesp who needs windows and gates?   OpenVMS is today what Microsoft  wants Windows NT v8.0 to be!  I Mark D. Jilson wrote in message <396B7566.4B006DA2@clarityconnect.com>...b3 >Most likely that version is way to old for V7.2-1.. >t) >"Kris G.G. Clippeleyr (aka Qkcl)" wrote:e >> >> Hi, >>J >> Recently I installed UNIDC022 (the data collector) on an OpenVMS V7.2-1 box,J >> on which the ADARTL.EXE (image ident = V7.2-13) was present, but when I >> tried touI >> start collecting data (ADVICE COLLECT START), the process (running theo image 6 >> PSDC$DC_V5.EXE) stops with the message DCEXCEPTION.F >> According to the help, I should submit an SPR. But an SPR to CA???? >> Anyone any ideas ?? >> >> Thanx >> >> --h" >> Kris G.G. Clippeleyr (aka Qkcl)) >> VMS Wizard in training, Guru wanna be!M >>& >> In a world without walls and fences >> who needs windows and gates?  >>" >> OpenVMS is today what Microsoft >> wants Windows NT v8.0 to be!r >>A >> Adrian Birkett wrote in message <3969ECFD.6C111725@csc.com>...t	 >> >Dave,r >> >D >> >Be aware that we have Advise-IT running on Alpha 7.2 - this also
 required aJ >> >newer version of the ada run-time library (ADARTL.EXE ident = 7.2-12). >> > >> >Just a thought.  >> > >> >Adei >> > >> > >> >DaveSmith wrote: >> >
 >> >> Hello ,o? >> >>       The company I work for bought Unicenter Performancee
 Analyzer/Data0K >> >> Collectors 2.5 years ago for 20K plus from CA. (Just after CA boughta@ >> >> it from Digital - A Big mistake by Digital was to sell off
 PolyCenter!).MH >> >> It is running on Alpha VMS 7.1. When I recently tried to install aI >> >> data collector on Alpha VMS V7.2 it failed with a 'version mismatche	 >> error' K >> >> please relink. I contacted CA who told me that I either need to go tog TNG.K >> >> or ADVISEIT. To upgrade to ADVISEIT it would cost 40K plus!!!!!. Thel= >> >> TNG route wasn't worth looking at (very expensive!!!!).a9 >> >>     Is there any way round my installation problem?  >> >>$
 >> >> regards- >> >> Dave Smith >> > >< >--vE >Jilly - Working from Home in the Chemung River Valley - Lockwood, NYr/ > - jilly@clarityconnect.com - Brett Bodine fanc- > - Mark.Jilson@Compaq.com - since 1975 or som- > - http://www.jilly.baka.com               -i   ------------------------------  % Date: Wed, 12 Jul 2000 09:07:05 -0700f/ From: Terry Marosites <TMarosites@unitedad.com>i& Subject: VAX to DEC Cobol differences.M Message-ID: <1137A4A23A51D311B2D600105A1D5213019AEEFB@seantexch.unitedad.com>-  H I am migrating to an Alpha (dec Cobol) from a Vax .I just copied my codeL over and recompiled. A 100% of the programs compile without a problem  99.9%: of the programs ran Ok , But I have a few that went amuck.   One was very strange.     K              The program on the VAX accepted a variable with spaces as zero/ i.e.                If string = zero #              Display "Bla bla bla".-  G              On the VAX the display was performed on the Alpha was not.    We changed the code to V1             If string = zero or string = spaces. gJ So we have the fix, but I would like to know what caused this to change. II have searched and can't find anything in both VAX and Alpha the Cobol ando" Alpha documentation or in the FAQs  + So I pose the question what's Up with this?k Terry  1      5 *****************************************************h    5 *****************************************************t4 Any views or opinions are solely those of the author) and do not necessarily represent those ofp United Advertising Media.r5 *****************************************************s4 The information transmitted is intended only for the1 person or entity to which it is addressed and may.3 contain confidential and/or privileged material. IfV3 you are not the intended recipient of this message,g. please do not read, copy, use or disclose this3 communication and notify the sender immediately. Itq0 should be noted that any review, retransmission,2 dissemination or other use of, or taking action in- reliance upon, this information by persons or - entities other than the intended recipient iso prohibited. 5 *****************************************************l **   ------------------------------  % Date: Wed, 12 Jul 2000 08:37:32 -0300u1 From: "Boyle, Darren" <boyledj@bankofbermuda.com>t Subject: RE: VMS in practiceK Message-ID: <9F664D538536D411BD3200508B6FF01A333648@bdant027.bda.bobda.com>v   Harald,   = 	I think you should check the terminology of your disclaimer.y@ >           --My opinions are necessarily those of my employer--L                                                                        ^^^^^ - Darren   > ----------, > From: 	Harald Droste[SMTP:quadword@web.de]' > Sent: 	Tuesday, July 11, 2000 7:27 PMI > To: 	Info-VAX@Mvb.Saic.Com > Subject: 	Re: VMS in practicem > J > If you'll visit Spain, you will notice that VMS seems to be _the_ system > inK > the tourist industry; you'll find vt's and familiar  looking applications,K > (smg) in almost every hotel, bar, restaurant - all over the place. duringw > myD > last vacation i even saw a smart card reader and a barcode scanner
 > attached
 > to a vt320.  >  > Harald Droster > --H > Nil tam difficile est, quid quaerendo investigari non possit. (Terenz)@ >           --My opinions are necessarily those of my employer-- > ? > "Phillip Helbig" <helbig@astro.rug.nl> schrieb im Newsbeitragi* > news:8kf5g8$36h$1@info.service.rug.nl...I > > I was just at the police station in Groningen to file charges against I > > the unknown person who nicked my Blaupunkt London CD-player and radioyI > > out of my car last Sunday (and stupid oaf he must have been, since itiJ > > will not work at all without the card being inserted, which apparentlyF > > has prevented thieves with at least a minimum of intelligence fromL > > stealing it in the past, although this is the third time my car has beenL > > broken into in the last 6 months (after 20 years of no break-ins at all;J > > what is this world coming to---there must be a way to blame Bill GatesG > > somehow!)).  I was presently surprised to see an LK401 keyboard andg > VT420hL > > terminal on the policewoman's desk.  I recognised the VMS login prompts,L > > and she fired up some program written with the SMG routines to enter theF > > information.  There was a fancy new laser printer connected to theE > > terminal by a serial line, which she used to print the stuff out. & > > Efficient and perfect for the job. > > I > > There has been a lot of talk about affordable VMS recently.  However,(L > > there must be many other operations like the Groningen police.  ConsiderI > > a billybox on every desk---certainly more expensive than a VT420, andrL > > there is the danger of the employees playing solitaire, catching virusesK > > etc.  Sure, the VMS box might cost a bit more, for whatever reason, bute7 > > they probably need just one and not scores of them.  > >: > >T > > --= > > Phillip Helbig                       Email ..............c > helbig@astro.rug.nl @ > > Kapteyn Instituut                    Email ................. > helbig@man.ac.ukL > > Rijksuniversiteit Groningen          Tel. ................... +31 50 363 > 6647L > > Postbus 800                          Fax .................... +31 50 363 > 61000 > > NL-9700 AV Groningen                 Web ..." > http://www.astro.rug.nl/~helbig/ > >e9 > > My opinions are not necessarily those of my employer.c > >tJ > > <A HREF=" http://gladia.astro.rug.nl:8000/helbig/hire/hire.html ">HIRE	 > ME!</A>n > >p >  >  >     F **********************************************************************C This message and any files transmitted with it are confidential and J may be privileged and/or subject to the provisions of privacy legislation.M They are intended solely for the use of the individual or entity to whom theynL are addressed. If the reader of this message is not the intended recipient, B please notify the sender immediately and then delete this message.I You are notified that reliance on, disclosure of, distribution or copyingp of this message is prohibited.   Bank of BermudacF **********************************************************************   ------------------------------  # Date: Wed, 12 Jul 2000 16:20:35 GMTs, From: geraldine <wildirishrosie@my-deja.com> Subject: VMS tuning wsdefaults) Message-ID: <8ki5s1$n9m$1@nnrp1.deja.com>p  B  I have a tuning question for OpenVMS 7.1 running on an alpha box.: We are experiencing what we think is slow performance whenD installing/linking Oracle RDBMS software on the machine.  When we do% this we are the only user on the box.a  G When monitoring the working set usage for the process that is doing theeF install, it fluctuates wildly and furthermore goes below the wsdefaultG to almost to values of 200 to 300.  Why is this?  I thought a process'sw8 working set should NEVER go below the wsdefault setting.  ? Quotas have been jacked up really high to see if that makes any=6 difference and doesn't seem to.  Quotas are currently:   WSDEFAULT:  500000 WSQUOTA:    900000 WSEXTENT:   900000  8 Thanks in advance for any words of wisdom on this topic.     --	 geraldine.    & Sent via Deja.com http://www.deja.com/ Before you buy.t   ------------------------------   Date: 12 Jul 2000 16:39:28 GMT3 From: gartmann@immunbio.mpg.de (Christoph Gartmann)'! Subject: Re: VMS tuning wsdefaultr0 Message-ID: <8ki700$me9$2@n.ruf.uni-freiburg.de>  X In article <8ki5s1$n9m$1@nnrp1.deja.com>, geraldine <wildirishrosie@my-deja.com> writes:C > I have a tuning question for OpenVMS 7.1 running on an alpha box.2; >We are experiencing what we think is slow performance whenyE >installing/linking Oracle RDBMS software on the machine.  When we dox& >this we are the only user on the box. >cH >When monitoring the working set usage for the process that is doing theG >install, it fluctuates wildly and furthermore goes below the wsdefaulteH >to almost to values of 200 to 300.  Why is this?  I thought a process's9 >working set should NEVER go below the wsdefault setting.h   Don't know about this one.  @ >Quotas have been jacked up really high to see if that makes any7 >difference and doesn't seem to.  Quotas are currently:> >  >WSDEFAULT:  500000B >WSQUOTA:    9000008 >WSEXTENT:   900000d  ; Did you adjust the corresponding SYSGEN parameters as well?    Regards,    Christoph Gartmann0  H -----------------------------------------------------------------------+H | Max-Planck-Institut fuer      Phone   : +49-761-5108-464   Fax: -452 |H | Immunbiologie                                                        |H | Postfach 1169                 Internet: gartmann@immunbio.mpg.de     |H | D-79011  Freiburg, FRG                                               |H +------------ http://www.immunbio.mpg.de/english/menue.html -----------+   ------------------------------  # Date: Wed, 12 Jul 2000 17:28:04 GMTd1 From: "Mark D. Jilson" <jilly@clarityconnect.com>i! Subject: Re: VMS tuning wsdefaultk2 Message-ID: <396CAA6F.CB929153@clarityconnect.com>  G Are you sure that you are monitoring the working set list ie the numberrD of buckets to hold memory or are you monitoring the actual amount ofD memory the process is using?  If you are using SHOW PROCESS/CONT andF looking at the 'Working set' item then you are actually looking at theE later!  Code up a DCL loop that displays the following F$GETJPI itemseA and you will get a better memory usage picture than SHOW PROCESS l  % PPGCNT - Process Private Pages in usew GPGCNT - Global Pages in use, WSSIZE - Actual size of the working set list   geraldine wrote: > D >  I have a tuning question for OpenVMS 7.1 running on an alpha box.< > We are experiencing what we think is slow performance whenF > installing/linking Oracle RDBMS software on the machine.  When we do' > this we are the only user on the box.  > I > When monitoring the working set usage for the process that is doing the H > install, it fluctuates wildly and furthermore goes below the wsdefaultI > to almost to values of 200 to 300.  Why is this?  I thought a process'st: > working set should NEVER go below the wsdefault setting. > A > Quotas have been jacked up really high to see if that makes anys8 > difference and doesn't seem to.  Quotas are currently: >  > WSDEFAULT:  500000 > WSQUOTA:    900000 > WSEXTENT:   900000 > : > Thanks in advance for any words of wisdom on this topic. >  > -- > geraldineg > ( > Sent via Deja.com http://www.deja.com/ > Before you buy.e   --  D Jilly	- Working from Home in the Chemung River Valley - Lockwood, NY0 	- jilly@clarityconnect.com			- Brett Bodine fan. 	- Mark.Jilson@Compaq.com			- since 1975 or so, 	- http://www.jilly.baka.com               -   ------------------------------  % Date: Wed, 12 Jul 2000 19:47:06 +0200 . From: "Marc Van Dyck" <marc.vandyck@skynet.be>! Subject: Re: VMS tuning wsdefaults* Message-ID: <8kiaoh$ark$1@news1.skynet.be>  L I don't believe it makes sense to define a default WS  that large. It has toL be re-built at each image activation, whether you need it or not. I think itH is better to have a large WS quota, as you did, and keep WS default much' lower, some thousands of pages maximum.=  ? Of course, you must adjust SYSGEN as well (WSMAX) and make sureEG that the user's page file quota and VIRTUALPAGECNT are high enough too.a  G Finally, if you want to inflate your working set quicker, you can boost- WSINC-I and lower PFRATH. Be careful with what you do there, those parameters arer+ at the heart of the Virtual Memory System !e  K Regarding your question, I believe that the WS limits in authorize are only  inL effect while running user-mode code, i.e. while you actually run some image.H WS count can drop below the default if you're in supervisor mode betweenD image activations (that's my observation anyway - I'll gladly accept
 corrections). K This is why setting a too large default can be counter-productive : at eachn, image activation, you have to rebuild it ...  I You might also improve performances by installing the images that you runAG most often. Installing /OPEN/HEADER will definitely help, using /SHARED"5 is less obvious, since you're alone on the machine...2  ( Make some tests, and post your results !   Marc.t    F "geraldine" <wildirishrosie@my-deja.com> a crit dans le message news: 8ki5s1$n9m$1@nnrp1.deja.com...C > I have a tuning question for OpenVMS 7.1 running on an alpha box.d< > We are experiencing what we think is slow performance whenF > installing/linking Oracle RDBMS software on the machine.  When we do' > this we are the only user on the box.a >rI > When monitoring the working set usage for the process that is doing the H > install, it fluctuates wildly and furthermore goes below the wsdefaultI > to almost to values of 200 to 300.  Why is this?  I thought a process'su: > working set should NEVER go below the wsdefault setting. >tA > Quotas have been jacked up really high to see if that makes anyo8 > difference and doesn't seem to.  Quotas are currently: >  > WSDEFAULT:  500000 > WSQUOTA:    900000 > WSEXTENT:   900000 >t: > Thanks in advance for any words of wisdom on this topic. >3 >- > -- > geraldineu >s >t( > Sent via Deja.com http://www.deja.com/ > Before you buy.h   ------------------------------  # Date: Wed, 12 Jul 2000 06:30:40 GMTc' From: "lasermon" <lasermon@hotmail.com>. Subject: What is VMS< Message-ID: <kgUa5.69458$T9.563935@news1.rdc1.sdca.home.com>  J There is a VAX machine where I work.  I was wondering what VAX is.  I haveI been told that it is VMS.  What is VMS?  From what I understand, they arepK UNIX like OS's.  What is their relation, are they the same thing, where cann" I get more information on the two?   ------------------------------  % Date: Wed, 12 Jul 2000 09:35:17 +0100-$ From: Andy Burns <andy@burns.uk.net> Subject: Re: What is VMS8 Message-ID: <e2bomskr64o53jvh1f4tc3igs7mfgmcm0u@4ax.com>   lasermon wrote:D  C >There is a VAX machine where I work.  I was wondering what VAX is.$  H a VAX refers to the type of processor/hardware, still widely in use, but; considered end of line and succeeded by the ALPHA processorh  0 >I have been told that it is VMS.  What is VMS?   = VMS is the main operating system used on a VAX (and an ALPHA)u  2 >From what I understand, they are UNIX like OS's.   G whooa steady, sure unix and VMS are both server based operating systemsd> running command line, x-windows file sharing and client server2 applications, but they are not really alike at all  A VMS is very consistent, very reliable (not that decent unixes arekA unreliable but there is reliable and reliable) more expensive ...   ; >What is their relation, are they the same thing, where canR# >I get more information on the two?e  ' start at http://www.openvms.compaq.com/l     -- a
 Andy Burns   ------------------------------   Date: 12 Jul 2000 14:44:27 GMT2 From: hoffman@xdelta.zko.dec.nospam (Hoff Hoffman) Subject: Re: What is VMS5 Message-ID: <8ki08b$od$1@mailint03.im.hou.compaq.com>   f In article <kgUa5.69458$T9.563935@news1.rdc1.sdca.home.com>, "lasermon" <lasermon@hotmail.com> writes:K :There is a VAX machine where I work.  I was wondering what VAX is.  I have J :been told that it is VMS.  What is VMS?  From what I understand, they areL :UNIX like OS's.  What is their relation, are they the same thing, where can# :I get more information on the two?d  D   Please see the OpenVMS Frequently Asked Questions (FAQ), available'   via links at various sites including:d  "     http://www.openvms.compaq.com/  I   The FAQ contains general information, pointers to tutorial and to other J   introductory and training materials, and answers and pointers associated8   with a wide variety of other commonly-asked questions.  N  --------------------------- pure personal opinion ---------------------------L    Hoff (Stephen) Hoffman   OpenVMS Engineering   hoffman#xdelta.zko.dec.com   ------------------------------  % Date: Wed, 12 Jul 2000 10:34:29 -0400 ) From: Joseph DeGregorio <jtd@accusys.net>a" Subject: WTB MicroVax 3100/85 or +: Message-ID: <AMEMKFBODHEGIBFNFGEPAEHACDAA.jtd@accusys.net>  1 I need 2 MicroVax 3100 Model 85 or better (speed)l, with memory and disks. No license necessary.     email me ata     jtd@acculab.neta   ------------------------------  # Date: Wed, 12 Jul 2000 06:23:04 GMTe0 From: carlini@true.lkg.dec.com (Antonio Carlini) Subject: Re: WTB: Microvax2000) Message-ID: <8kh27m$qs@usenet.pa.dec.com>-  I In article <8kg6mf$j0t$1@odo.ecs.umass.edu>, heimann@ecs.umass.edu wrote:/I >>> Are you aware that the only differences between the MicroVAX 2000 andaD >>> VAXstation 2000 are the medallion and the position of one jumper >>> internally?  >>- >>And the software license that came with it.  >3E >And the serial port converter block that usually came with it.  ThatmE >plugged into the ports used by the mouse and keyboard on the VS 2000r  >and provided 3(?) serial ports.  O So, apart from the roads, education, the health care system and law and order, h& just what have the Romans done for us?   :-)    AntonioT  I Antonio Carlini                            Mail: carlini@true.lkg.dec.com # DECnet-Plus for OpenVMS Engineering 6 COMPAQ                                     Reading, UK   ------------------------------  % Date: Wed, 12 Jul 2000 09:13:24 -0500 7 From: "David J. Dachtera" <djesys.nospam@earthlink.net>a Subject: Re: WTB: Microvax2000- Message-ID: <396C7D04.C59CEC3A@earthlink.net>e  
 Dan wrote: >  > SysAdmin wrote:  > H > > Go to E-bay, search in Computers (titles and descriptions) for "DEC" > >iK > > As of today, there's an Alpha DEC 3000, a MicroVAX 3300 (floor standing*" > > unit), one or two multias, ... > I > yep lots of stuff, mostly out of my price range, or just way too big...o; > then again, an alpha3000/700 only costs about $400 or so.  > K > > uVAX-2K WAS a cute box, but there's lots of stuff out there, some of its > > MUCH faster than 0.8 VUPs. > H > yep, nice and small. I've heard the 4000/vlc is better, but the vlc is > limited, so it's best to golM > with a model 90 or something along those lines. which run for roughly $200.e  A Yep - The Law of Supply and Demand as it's supposed to work. OVMSeF Hobbyist has increased the demand, which in turns shores up the prices of used systems.  C I raised this point some two+ years ago, at which time the idea wasy largely "pooh-pooh"-ed.h  G You can sometimes get a Multia on EBay for <= $200, but you may have to*D "snipe" an auction (wait until near auction close, then put in a bid@ during the last few minutes or so to help prevent being outbid).  F By the way - I'm not sure just how "limited" VAXstation 4000 VLC mightH be. Depends what you want, I guess. VUPs wise, it's about the same as anC 8200. Single SCSI bus, SCSI-I only, 24 MB memory max. - better than A uVAX-2Ks where I believe the max. is 12 MB, but I could be wrong.   D Anyway, I have three VLCs. Might put 'em up on eBay later this year.   --   David J. Dachterar dba DJE Systemse http://www.djesys.com/  : Unofficial Affordable OpenVMS Home Page and Message Board: http://www.djesys.com/vms/soho/p   ------------------------------  # Date: Wed, 12 Jul 2000 14:39:29 GMTb= From: system@SendSpamHere.ORG (Brian Schenkenberger, VAXman-)a Subject: Re: WTB: Microvax20000 Message-ID: <009ECF75.EBF39F1A@SendSpamHere.ORG>  g In article <396C7D04.C59CEC3A@earthlink.net>, "David J. Dachtera" <djesys.nospam@earthlink.net> writes:  >tG >By the way - I'm not sure just how "limited" VAXstation 4000 VLC mightsI >be. Depends what you want, I guess. VUPs wise, it's about the same as annD >8200. Single SCSI bus, SCSI-I only, 24 MB memory max. - better thanB >uVAX-2Ks where I believe the max. is 12 MB, but I could be wrong.  I 14MB.  2MB are on the uV2K board.  You could then install optional memoryhH of 4MB or 12MB.  I have a 4MB uV2K memory board pinned to my wall with aH few other interesting of PCB 'artwork'.  I was debating on 'scanning' itH for interested parties to view on the web site but I have better things  that I need to do...     --O VAXman- OpenVMS APE certification number: AAA-0001     VAXman(at)TMESIS(dot)COMn   ------------------------------  % Date: Wed, 12 Jul 2000 15:52:59 +0100 & From: Roy Omond <Roy.Omond@compaq.com> Subject: Re: WTB: Microvax2000* Message-ID: <396C864B.7F2C9F17@compaq.com>  & "Brian Schenkenberger, VAXman-" wrote:  i > In article <396C7D04.C59CEC3A@earthlink.net>, "David J. Dachtera" <djesys.nospam@earthlink.net> writes:c > >eI > >By the way - I'm not sure just how "limited" VAXstation 4000 VLC mighteK > >be. Depends what you want, I guess. VUPs wise, it's about the same as annF > >8200. Single SCSI bus, SCSI-I only, 24 MB memory max. - better thanD > >uVAX-2Ks where I believe the max. is 12 MB, but I could be wrong. >hK > 14MB.  2MB are on the uV2K board.  You could then install optional memoryrJ > of 4MB or 12MB.  I have a 4MB uV2K memory board pinned to my wall with aJ > few other interesting of PCB 'artwork'.  I was debating on 'scanning' itI > for interested parties to view on the web site but I have better things  > that I need to do...  @ Mmm... if my memory serves correctly, there was some third-partyB (maybe Camintonn ?) manufacturer who did 16 Mbyte boards (2 piggy-@ backed 8 Mbyte boards) for the uV2K.  The 2 Mbytes on-board were ignored.  	 Roy Omondy Blue Bubble Ltd., (certainly not speaking on behalf of Compaq)   ------------------------------  % Date: Wed, 12 Jul 2000 16:42:29 +0100.- From: Tim Llewellyn <tim.llewellyn@bbc.co.uk>  Subject: Re: WTB: Microvax2000) Message-ID: <396C91E4.5B6943C6@bbc.co.uk>G   Roy Omond wrote:   >W >.B > Mmm... if my memory serves correctly, there was some third-partyD > (maybe Camintonn ?) manufacturer who did 16 Mbyte boards (2 piggy-B > backed 8 Mbyte boards) for the uV2K.  The 2 Mbytes on-board were
 > ignored. >   H Ok, so I'm gonna have to open up the one behind my desk and see how muchH RAM it has I guess, though I did develop once on a VS2000 and I remember how slow that was.   >t   --6 Tim Llewellyn, OpenVMS Infrastructure, Remarcs Project0 MedAS at the BBC, Whiteladies Road, Bristol, UK.A Email tim.llewellyn@bbc.co.uk. Home tim.llewellyn@cableinet.co.ukn  A I speak for myself only and my views in no way represent those ofe MedAS or the BBC.o   ------------------------------  # Date: Wed, 12 Jul 2000 15:56:20 GMT 0 From: carlini@true.lkg.dec.com (Antonio Carlini) Subject: Re: WTB: Microvax2000* Message-ID: <8ki3qi$n0o@usenet.pa.dec.com>  f In article <396C7D04.C59CEC3A@earthlink.net>, "David J. Dachtera" <djesys.nospam@earthlink.net> wrote: >jG >By the way - I'm not sure just how "limited" VAXstation 4000 VLC mighteI >be. Depends what you want, I guess. VUPs wise, it's about the same as anoD >8200. Single SCSI bus, SCSI-I only, 24 MB memory max. - better thanB >uVAX-2Ks where I believe the max. is 12 MB, but I could be wrong.  0 In the interests of pointless nitpicking :-) ...  M The VAXstation 4000/VLC is approx 6VUPs. The VAX 8200 is approx 1 VUP. Maybe sJ you were thinking of the VAX 8550 which would indeed be about 6 VUPs. But K neither of those larger 8000 VAXen can be carried off in one hand - indeed eE "carrying" via anything other than a crane is out of the question :-)   N The VLC is indeed limited to 24MB of memory. It may be SCSI-2, I don't recall.H The UV2K/VS2K can go to 16MB (although I recall the initial variant was  limited to 14MB).    Antonion    I Antonio Carlini                            Mail: carlini@true.lkg.dec.come# DECnet-Plus for OpenVMS Engineering-6 COMPAQ                                     Reading, UK   ------------------------------  # Date: Wed, 12 Jul 2000 16:00:28 GMTa= From: system@SendSpamHere.ORG (Brian Schenkenberger, VAXman-)t Subject: Re: WTB: Microvax20000 Message-ID: <009ECF81.3C0C3F00@SendSpamHere.ORG>  S In article <396C864B.7F2C9F17@compaq.com>, Roy Omond <Roy.Omond@compaq.com> writes:n' >"Brian Schenkenberger, VAXman-" wrote:e > j >> In article <396C7D04.C59CEC3A@earthlink.net>, "David J. Dachtera" <djesys.nospam@earthlink.net> writes: >> >J >> >By the way - I'm not sure just how "limited" VAXstation 4000 VLC mightL >> >be. Depends what you want, I guess. VUPs wise, it's about the same as anG >> >8200. Single SCSI bus, SCSI-I only, 24 MB memory max. - better thanrE >> >uVAX-2Ks where I believe the max. is 12 MB, but I could be wrong.o >>L >> 14MB.  2MB are on the uV2K board.  You could then install optional memoryK >> of 4MB or 12MB.  I have a 4MB uV2K memory board pinned to my wall with a0K >> few other interesting of PCB 'artwork'.  I was debating on 'scanning' itpJ >> for interested parties to view on the web site but I have better things >> that I need to do...- >-A >Mmm... if my memory serves correctly, there was some third-partyrC >(maybe Camintonn ?) manufacturer who did 16 Mbyte boards (2 piggy- A >backed 8 Mbyte boards) for the uV2K.  The 2 Mbytes on-board were 	 >ignored.   D Correct...  Not sure about the mfg though.  I didn't want to mentionE the 3rd party boards.  I'd wager they're pretty had to come by these w days.i   --O VAXman- OpenVMS APE certification number: AAA-0001     VAXman(at)TMESIS(dot)COM,   ------------------------------  # Date: Wed, 12 Jul 2000 16:40:19 GMTc* From: Roger Tucker <roger.tucker@wcom.com>/ Subject: Re: XML Parser for OpenVMS Available ? ( Message-ID: <396C4B7E.43999411@wcom.com>  : You may already know this, but the XML parser for Gnome is< available at http://xmlsoft.org/, but I think you would have to port it.y   ------------------------------   End of INFO-VAX 2000.387 ************************