1 INFO-VAX	Tue, 18 Jul 2000	Volume 2000 : Issue 399       Contents: 5.5-2 logicals definition  Re: 5.5-2 logicals definition  Re: 5.5-2 logicals definition " Re: CompactTape II sources (TK70)?" Re: CompactTape II sources (TK70)?" Re: CompactTape II sources (TK70)?" Re: CompactTape II sources (TK70)?" Re: CompactTape II sources (TK70)?! Connecting modem to DECserver 300  Re: DTR Syntax7 FA : DEC Vaxstation 4000/90, 80mb, RZ26 , LCSPX on ebay  Re: Gembase (gem.dmp files) 4 Re: got to remember to STOP trying to use OpenVMS...4 Re: got to remember to STOP trying to use OpenVMS... Re: Hobbes frozen on startup Re: Hobbes frozen on startup Re: Hobbes frozen on startup Re: Hobbes frozen on startup Re: Hobbes frozen on startup< How to use F$GETQUI to retrieve entry number of a batch job?@ Re: How to use F$GETQUI to retrieve entry number of a batch job?@ Re: How to use F$GETQUI to retrieve entry number of a batch job?@ Re: How to use F$GETQUI to retrieve entry number of a batch job?@ Re: How to use F$GETQUI to retrieve entry number of a batch job?C re: I/O caching and UNIX evaluations (was: Re: got to remember ...) + Re: JAVA Fast Virtual Machine now available + Re: JAVA Fast Virtual Machine now available + RE: JAVA Fast Virtual Machine now available + Re: JAVA Fast Virtual Machine now available * Keyboard/Video/Mouse switch for Alpha & PC- Looking for information on PE parameter usage 1 Re: Looking for information on PE parameter usage 1 Re: Looking for information on PE parameter usage 1 Re: Looking for information on PE parameter usage # MicroVax 3100-M40 hardware problems ' Re: MicroVax 3100-M40 hardware problems  Re: openvms 6.2-1H3  RE: openvms 6.2-1H3 & Pathworks v6.0B and its administration* RE: Pathworks v6.0B and its administration Re: Pearl Compiler6 Set up decserver 90m as ppp dial-in on Alpha with VMS.' Silly Question, Remote Process priority + Re: Silly Question, Remote Process priority + Re: Silly Question, Remote Process priority + Re: Silly Question, Remote Process priority  speaking of performance $ sys$sched system service help needed TimeZone information UCX problem  Unable to see UCX proxy ! Using TPCIP printers with JETFORM % Re: Using TPCIP printers with JETFORM  Re: VMS fortunes?  Re: VMS fortunes?  Re: VMS fortunes?  Re: VMS Pascal question   F ----------------------------------------------------------------------  % Date: Tue, 18 Jul 2000 09:46:45 +0300 / From: "Oleksii Krykun" <krikun@academy.kiev.ua> " Subject: 5.5-2 logicals definitionQ Message-ID: <08C4AC570B9FD211B1DB00A0C9D3393547BC0C@hqnts40div01.academy.kiev.ua>    I use VAX/VMS 5.5-2H4.& Yesterday I found a following problem.F Logicals with minus (-) sign doesn't work with /TRANSLATION qualifier. I.e. $ define a-b disk:[directory]  works fine.  But / $ define /trans=concealed a-b disk:[directory.]  doesn't  I get: $ dir a-b:[000000]B %DCL-W-PARMDEL, invalid parameter delimiter - check use of special characters \:\  * Is this a version feature or anymore else?   Thanks,  Oleksii    ------------------------------   Date: 18 Jul 2000 14:10:18 GMT2 From: hoffman@xdelta.zko.dec.nospam (Hoff Hoffman)& Subject: Re: 5.5-2 logicals definition5 Message-ID: <8l1oga$fu$1@mailint03.im.hou.compaq.com>    In article <08C4AC570B9FD211B1DB00A0C9D3393547BC0C@hqnts40div01.academy.kiev.ua>, "Oleksii Krykun" <krikun@academy.kiev.ua> writes:  :I use VAX/VMS 5.5-2H4.     E   V5.5-2H4 was released back in 1993.  Please consider an upgrade to  F   something rather more recent.  And once you get past V6.0 on OpenVMSD   VAX, you might as well upgrade to the current OpenVMS VAX release.C   (Unlike on OpenVMS Alpha, OpenVMS VAX V7.0 involved no particular %   user-mode nor kernel-mode changes.)    ..G :Logicals with minus (-) sign doesn't work with /TRANSLATION qualifier.  .. :$ define a-b disk:[directory] :works fine. ..0 :$ define /trans=concealed a-b disk:[directory.] :doesn't .. :I get:  :$ dir a-b:[000000] C :%DCL-W-PARMDEL, invalid parameter delimiter - check use of special  :characters \:\  ..+ :Is this a version feature or anymore else?   *   Please try a variation on the following:  @ $ define/translation=conceal/nolog "a-b" sys$login_device:[dir.] $ directory a-b:[scratch]    Directory A-B:[SCRATCH]    ..   $   C   Logical names are generally restricted to alphanumerics, dollar,  ?   and underscores.  When you stray outside this, you need to be    rather more careful.       Per the documentation:   :  DEFINE     Parameters       logical-name  E        Specifies the logical name string, which is a character string F        containing from 1 to 255 characters. The following rules apply:  B        o  If the logical name is to be entered into the process orF           system directory logical name tables (LNM$PROCESS_DIRECTORY,F           LNM$SYSTEM_DIRECTORY), then the name can only have from 1 toH           31 alphanumeric characters, including the dollar sign ($)  and           underscore (_).   G        o  If you specify a colon (:)  at the end of a logical name, the E           DEFINE command saves the colon as part of the logical name. G           (This is in contrast to the ASSIGN command, which removes the D           colon before placing the name in a logical name table.) ByD           default, the logical name is placed in the process logical           name table.   D        o  If the string contains any characters other than uppercaseF           alphanumerics, the dollar sign, or the underscore character,G           enclose the string in quotation marks (" ").  Use two sets of D           quotation marks ("" "")  to denote actual quotation marks.A           When you enclose a name in quotation marks, the case of -           alphabetic characters is preserved.    	...    F   A variation of this same class of problem: specification of a volumeC   label with an odd character can snarl up several packages, no the F   least of which is PCSI.  This because MOUNT tries to create a volumeF   logical name based on the volume label, and you've already seen thatF   odd characters in a logical name can lead to forms of "indigestion".    N  --------------------------- pure personal opinion ---------------------------L    Hoff (Stephen) Hoffman   OpenVMS Engineering   hoffman#xdelta.zko.dec.com   ------------------------------   Date: 18 Jul 2000 11:07:50 CDT= From: wayne@tachysoft.xxx.293778.killspam.0223 (Wayne Sewell) & Subject: Re: 5.5-2 logicals definition. Message-ID: <BgSjPUOOYgcN@tachxxsoftxxconsult>   In article <08C4AC570B9FD211B1DB00A0C9D3393547BC0C@hqnts40div01.academy.kiev.ua>, "Oleksii Krykun" <krikun@academy.kiev.ua> writes:  > I use VAX/VMS 5.5-2H4.( > Yesterday I found a following problem.H > Logicals with minus (-) sign doesn't work with /TRANSLATION qualifier. > I.e. > $ define a-b disk:[directory] 
 > works fine.  > But 1 > $ define /trans=concealed a-b disk:[directory.] 	 > doesn't  > I get: > $ dir a-b:[000000]D > %DCL-W-PARMDEL, invalid parameter delimiter - check use of special > characters \:\ > , > Is this a version feature or anymore else? >   0 Could be.  Either one works fine on 7.2-1 alpha.     --  O =============================================================================== M Wayne Sewell, Tachyon Software Consulting  (281)812-0738  wayne@tachysoft.xxx : http://www.tachysoft.xxx/www/tachyon.html and wayne.html  K change .xxx to .com in addresses above, assuming you are not a spambot  :-) O =============================================================================== O Otter, on dining with Bluto:"It's perfectly safe if you keep your arms and legs  			away from his mouth."   ------------------------------  % Date: Tue, 18 Jul 2000 02:46:28 -0400 2 From: rdeininger@mindspring.com (Robert Deininger)+ Subject: Re: CompactTape II sources (TK70)? L Message-ID: <rdeininger-1807000246280001@user-2iveage.dialup.mindspring.com>  D In article <8kvbkm$1g7r$2@info.cs.uofs.edu>, bill@cs.uofs.edu wrote:  @ > This is only borderline on this subject, but here goes anyway. > > > I have a Benchmark DLT Tape System.  The tapes are just like" > TK50/TK70 cartridges physically.  > I have noticed several differences between TK50/TK70 carts and more modern DLTs:   F 1.  The outside dimensions are identical, except the new tapes (DLT IV> specifically) have a couple of extra tabs on the left side.  IJ think there is a switch in the drive that detects these tabs and uses themA to decide what type of tape it is.  I suspect, but haven't had a  G chance to verify, that different DLT generations have different numbers  and/or positions of the tabs.   D 2.  TK50/TK70 have a supply reel (inside the cart) that has a bottomB side but no top side.  I have seen some old tapes that wound up inG the cart so badly skewed that the tape rubbed against the inside of the H cart as it turned.  In contrast, the new DLTs I have looked at have bothE top and bottom sides on the supply reel.  I guess this makes the tape E wind up on the reel better, especially at today's higher tape speeds.   G 3.  Different generations of tapes are different lengths.  I don't know I how the drive figures this out, but it has to know.  I found out the hard E way that there is no physical end-of-tape marker, at least on the old I TK50/TK70 tapes.  I think the drive simply keeps track of how many inches K of tape have gone past, and counts down to the end of the reel.  (It's also F possible the tapes come with some magnetic marker pre-recorded to markB end-of-tape, but I don't think that's likely.  Recording each tapeF would cost the factory quite a bit of money.)  If you confuse a drive D well enough with a funny kind of tape, it may run the end off of the- reel.  (The tape isn't attached to the reel.)   C 4.  Regarding the drive, not the tape, the newer ones have a longer B tape path and a correspondingly longer leader for grabbing the endB of the tape.  (Other than that, the door-opening and tape-grabbing? mechanism is identical in a TK50 and a DLT 4000, and presumably < everything in between.  And fiendishly clever, I might add.) > = > Two questions.  Does anyone know how many times these tapes > > can be re-used before they are likely to become unreliable??  D Quantum's web site has some info for modern tapes.  I don't remember> the number of passes, but it has quite a few zeros at the end.  @ > And that being said, is it likely that once they are no longer@ > reliable for useas DLT tapes that they might be usable as TK70 > or TK50 cartridges??  ? I doubt it.  They are definitely too long (which is better than G too short).  The magnetic properties are probably different enough that C the drive will notice, and complain.  You could always try it.  The D drive will almost certainly load the tape.  If it gets really angry,= it might break the tape or refuse to unload it.  I suppose it E could break the leader in the drive, but that is easy to fix.  If you  have a spare leader.   --   Robert Deininger rdeininger@mindspring.com    ------------------------------   Date: 18 Jul 2000 14:19:54 GMT1 From: bill@triangle.cs.uofs.edu (Bill Gunshannon) + Subject: Re: CompactTape II sources (TK70)? , Message-ID: <8l1p2a$2q6q$1@info.cs.uofs.edu>  > I want to thank everyone for the info, it was a very big help.  F There seems to be confusion on wether or not to use the DLT tapes in a TK50/TK70 drive, however......  L In article <rdeininger-1807000246280001@user-2iveage.dialup.mindspring.com>,5  rdeininger@mindspring.com (Robert Deininger) writes:  |>  G |> Quantum's web site has some info for modern tapes.  I don't remember A |> the number of passes, but it has quite a few zeros at the end.  |>    I There is a white paper on Tape life here.  Based on the info they provide H it doesn't look like I am likely to have any "wore out" DLT's to try for@ a lot longer than I am likely to wait.  1,000,000 tape passes!!!  
 All the best.    bill   --  J Bill Gunshannon          |  de-moc-ra-cy (di mok' ra see) n.  Three wolvesD bill@cs.scranton.edu     |  and a sheep voting on what's for dinner. University of Scranton   |A Scranton, Pennsylvania   |         #include <std.disclaimer.h>       ------------------------------  # Date: Tue, 18 Jul 2000 15:12:32 GMT - From: "Richard D. Piccard" <piccard@ohio.edu> + Subject: Re: CompactTape II sources (TK70)? ( Message-ID: <397473DE.C2238973@ohio.edu>  G But don't forget, these are all "serpentine" drives, so you filling the ! tape uses more than 10 "passes".     				RDP    Bill Gunshannon wrote: > @ > I want to thank everyone for the info, it was a very big help. > H > There seems to be confusion on wether or not to use the DLT tapes in a  > TK50/TK70 drive, however...... > N > In article <rdeininger-1807000246280001@user-2iveage.dialup.mindspring.com>,7 >  rdeininger@mindspring.com (Robert Deininger) writes:  > |>I > |> Quantum's web site has some info for modern tapes.  I don't remember C > |> the number of passes, but it has quite a few zeros at the end.  > |> > K > There is a white paper on Tape life here.  Based on the info they provide J > it doesn't look like I am likely to have any "wore out" DLT's to try forB > a lot longer than I am likely to wait.  1,000,000 tape passes!!! >  > All the best.  >  > bill >  > --L > Bill Gunshannon          |  de-moc-ra-cy (di mok' ra see) n.  Three wolvesF > bill@cs.scranton.edu     |  and a sheep voting on what's for dinner. > University of Scranton   |@ > Scranton, Pennsylvania   |         #include <std.disclaimer.h>   --  B ==================================================================B Dick Piccard                           Academic Technology ManagerB piccard@ohio.edu                                 Computer ServicesB http://oak.cats.ohiou.edu/~piccard/                Ohio University   ------------------------------    Date: 18 Jul 2000 12:42:42 -05002 From: malmberg@eisner.decus.org (John E. Malmberg)+ Subject: Re: CompactTape II sources (TK70)? + Message-ID: <aGrVetikBR+Q@eisner.decus.org>   , In article <8l1p2a$2q6q$1@info.cs.uofs.edu>,3 bill@triangle.cs.uofs.edu (Bill Gunshannon) writes:  > @ > I want to thank everyone for the info, it was a very big help. > = > There seems to be confusion on wether or not to use the DLT + > tapes in a TK50/TK70 drive, however......   H There is no confusion.  If you suceed in getting the tape in, it will beE difficult to get out.  And that includes the DLT cleaning cartridges.   H Some models of DLT tape drives can read the TK50 / TK70 tape cartridges.  M Based on the information that I have seen, it is not worth experimentation to L see if the DLT media can actually be written on or read by a TK50/TK70 class drive.   -John  wb8tyw@qsl.network   ------------------------------   Date: 18 Jul 2000 15:48:26 GMT1 From: bill@triangle.cs.uofs.edu (Bill Gunshannon) + Subject: Re: CompactTape II sources (TK70)? , Message-ID: <8l1u8a$2thi$1@info.cs.uofs.edu>  ( In article <397473DE.C2238973@ohio.edu>,0  "Richard D. Piccard" <piccard@ohio.edu> writes: |>  J |> But don't forget, these are all "serpentine" drives, so you filling the$ |> tape uses more than 10 "passes".  |>   |> Bill Gunshannon wrote:  |> >  O ||> > There is a white paper on Tape life here.  Based on the info they provide M |> > it doesn't look like I am likely to have any "wore out" DLT's to try for E |> > a lot longer than I am likely to wait.  1,000,000 tape passes!!!   D Take a look at the white paper.  Streaming 24 hours a day they stillC work it out to over 4 years before a tape failure.  Right now, I am G cycling tapes so that they get used about once a week and even at that, D I am not writing full tapes which limits the number of total passes.C I figure at this rate they will probably out last the machine they  D are on and will probably become too small long before they wear out., Finally a tape technology I can live with!!!   bill   --  J Bill Gunshannon          |  de-moc-ra-cy (di mok' ra see) n.  Three wolvesD bill@cs.scranton.edu     |  and a sheep voting on what's for dinner. University of Scranton   |A Scranton, Pennsylvania   |         #include <std.disclaimer.h>       ------------------------------  % Date: Tue, 18 Jul 2000 11:57:23 +0300 ' From: "Shay E. Cohen" <shayc@ncc.co.il> * Subject: Connecting modem to DECserver 3000 Message-ID: <8l165n$fud$1@news.netvision.net.il>  H I want to connect a dial up modem to a DECserver 300 port so that remoteG user can connect to the system.  What cable do I need?  Do you have theIA connectors (DB25 in the modem side and MMJ in the DS300 side) pinpL description?  Should there be a special definitions in the modem (except for= the auto answer)?  Where can I find the DECserver 300 manual?t   ------------------------------   Date: 18 Jul 2000 11:59:50 GMTF From: lederman@star.enet.dec.DISABLE-JUNK-EMAIL.com (Bart Z. Lederman) Subject: Re: DTR Syntax * Message-ID: <8l1grm$h31@usenet.pa.dec.com>  g In article <3973BCD6.9B1F8F8D@earthlink.net>, "David J. Dachtera" <djesys.nospam@earthlink.net> writes:p >e >Horse Nuts wrote: >> pG >> In the following I am trying to get ~"|USERNAME to be in lower case.o >> How can I do this.v	 >> Thanksb >oA >Yow! It's been rather a while since I hacked up anything in DTR.  >a6 >Is there an FN$EDIT function? (Hint: Check the HELP). >o  5 There are a number of string functions that come with : Datatrieve, but not a case function or a direct equivalent to DCL's F$EDIT   : However, it is possible to add on in fairly easily.  I did it some years ago.  @ I could post the article here, but I would suggest first looking at the DTRWIZ web site at   2 http://www.geocities.com/SiliconValley/Pines/8958/  ; If the article isn't there and Joe is willing to put it up, / I can send it to him.  Otherwise I can post it.e  9 Also, if you're doing anything with Datatrieve you should ; try to get one of the older VMS SIG tape collections (whichd8 are also on CD) and look for the DTR/4GL SIG collection,6 which contains all of the old newsletters and a lot of< user contributed software: this includes the above mentioned< function, and lots of others that you can add to Datatrieve,! with examples of how to use them.i  < You can start by looking in Sunsite or WU Archive (locations> for various freeware and SIG tape collections are in the FAQ).   -- s(  B. Z. Lederman   Personal Opinions Only  8  Posting to a News group does NOT give anyone permission8  to send me advertising by E-mail or put me on a mailing  list of any kind.  5  Please remove the "DISABLE-JUNK-EMAIL" if you have a 5  legitimate reason to E-mail a response to this post.    ------------------------------  % Date: Tue, 18 Jul 2000 09:55:13 -0400-" From: "DA" <da@digitalsurplus.com>@ Subject: FA : DEC Vaxstation 4000/90, 80mb, RZ26 , LCSPX on ebay- Message-ID: <YiZc5.6$y93.1271@news.shore.net>n  2 Auction of the following system ends today on Ebay@ http://cgi.ebay.com/aw-cgi/eBayISAPI.dll?ViewItem&item=381676095  F DEC Vaxstation 4000 model 90 80mb Memory,RZ26 1.05gb Disk Drive, LCSPXK Graphics, VMS Base License, 30 Day DOA warranty - This is a system box onlyeL and does NOT include a keyboard and mouse - other 4000 vms systems available- at http://www.digitalsurplus.com/specials.htma   ------------------------------  , Date: Tue, 18 Jul 2000 08:32:07 +0200 (CEST): From: "Gotfryd Smolik, VMS lists" <gotfryd@stanpol.com.pl>$ Subject: Re: Gembase (gem.dmp files)J Message-ID: <Pine.LNX.4.21.0007180823110.18838-100000@irys.stanpol.com.pl>  1 On Tue, 18 Jul 2000, Patrick Nirmal Sharma wrote:m   +Greetings,. +pG +My Alpha system disk is running low on available spaces due to alot of0, +dump files being created on my system disk.: +The files are created are: $1$DKC0:[SYS0.SYSMGR]GEM.DMP;*: +Any clues as to how I can find a solution to the problem.  &  Probably check commandprocedures for:   $ SET PROCESS/DUMP  ;  But if the "dump while crash" flag is set and you get much ; of dumps, then you have programming problem in some images  8 (probably GEM.EXE)... And someone have set the flag for ; a reason ! Find the person, where thinks that will correct w8 the bug (yes, the one who set the debug flag)... and ask' nicely, when will debug the program -:)s   +Patrick    Regards - Gotfryd   -- tE =====================================================================rF $ ON F$ERROR("LANGUAGE","ENGLISH","IN_MESSAGE").GT.F$ERROR("NORMAL") - 		THEN EXCUSE/OBJECT=MEl. $!                        GS@stanpol.zabrze.plE =====================================================================    ------------------------------    Date: 18 Jul 2000 09:49:31 -0500, From: koehler@eisner.decus.org (Bob Koehler)= Subject: Re: got to remember to STOP trying to use OpenVMS...i+ Message-ID: <WA0Ur0+MoHkL@eisner.decus.org>u  ` In article <8kvck5$1h3p$1@info.cs.uofs.edu>, bill@triangle.cs.uofs.edu (Bill Gunshannon) writes:  E > First of all, I do not know of anyone in the Unix camp who has evernB > claimed there is such a thing as "Standard Unix".  That seems to- > remain the claim of people like VMS bigots.r  B So what do you think was going on when a UNIX publication reviewedF Digital's first release of OSF/1 and wondered in print why it couldn't$ have been more like a standard UNIX?  & >  Which is why all those vendors wentE > to the trouble of creating all those extensions in the first place.)  < So how DO I keep all those UNIX programmers from referencing2 <sys/types.h> in violation of the ANSI C standard?   ------------------------------   Date: 18 Jul 2000 15:00:29 GMT1 From: bill@triangle.cs.uofs.edu (Bill Gunshannon)l= Subject: Re: got to remember to STOP trying to use OpenVMS... , Message-ID: <8l1red$2sfj$1@info.cs.uofs.edu>  + In article <WA0Ur0+MoHkL@eisner.decus.org>,t/  koehler@eisner.decus.org (Bob Koehler) writes:,c |> In article <8kvck5$1h3p$1@info.cs.uofs.edu>, bill@triangle.cs.uofs.edu (Bill Gunshannon) writes:. |>  H |> > First of all, I do not know of anyone in the Unix camp who has everE |> > claimed there is such a thing as "Standard Unix".  That seems toe0 |> > remain the claim of people like VMS bigots. |>  E |> So what do you think was going on when a UNIX publication reviewed I |> Digital's first release of OSF/1 and wondered in print why it couldn'th' |> have been more like a standard UNIX?s  H I can't imagine.  I'm fairly certain that at that point in time UNIX wasJ the un-published private property of AT&T and I am relatively certain thatG AT&T never published a document called "The UNIX Standard".  There wereoI already two very different "standards" in the UNIX world by then, the BSDiG way and the SYSV way.  But neither of them constituted what could be in o any way a real standard.  If "a UNIX publication" really made this statement, it looks like yet another example2H of the general ignorance of the press.  Made even more sad by the narrowI scope of their subject material int he first place.  But then, that's whyu= I place so little value in the various trade journals anyway.    |>  ) |> >  Which is why all those vendors wentrH |> > to the trouble of creating all those extensions in the first place. |> .? |> So how DO I keep all those UNIX programmers from referencing 5 |> <sys/types.h> in violation of the ANSI C standard?   I Hmmm. "<sys/types.h>" is a totally OS dependant statement and has nothing I to do with the language.  Maybe your complaint is with the standards body H and not the UNIX programmers for trying to standardize something outside
 their domain.    bill   -- =J Bill Gunshannon          |  de-moc-ra-cy (di mok' ra see) n.  Three wolvesD bill@cs.scranton.edu     |  and a sheep voting on what's for dinner. University of Scranton   |A Scranton, Pennsylvania   |         #include <std.disclaimer.h>   a   ------------------------------  , Date: Tue, 18 Jul 2000 08:45:54 +0200 (CEST): From: "Gotfryd Smolik, VMS lists" <gotfryd@stanpol.com.pl>% Subject: Re: Hobbes frozen on startup J Message-ID: <Pine.LNX.4.21.0007180839370.18838-100000@irys.stanpol.com.pl>  + On Mon, 17 Jul 2000, Steven Shamlian wrote:0   +Hello.dE [...long description, when system "hangs" while unnecessary MOUNT...]   >  Suposing you already have get the correction, minor addition:D you have the syntax MOUNT/NOASSIST for that (mean: without operator,! b.ex. while system starts) usage. D  By default VMS treats all devices as "removable", and if something C goes wrong - asks operator to change media; with /NOASSIST (in the T; case) the MOUNT is rejected - and that prevents the "hang".c    Regards - Gotfryd   -- dE =====================================================================tF $ ON F$ERROR("LANGUAGE","ENGLISH","IN_MESSAGE").GT.F$ERROR("NORMAL") - 		THEN EXCUSE/OBJECT=MEr. $!                        GS@stanpol.zabrze.plE =====================================================================v   ------------------------------  % Date: Tue, 18 Jul 2000 07:16:58 -0400n2 From: "Richard B. Gilbert" <DRAGON@compuserve.com>% Subject: Re: Hobbes frozen on startupc7 Message-ID: <200007180717_MC2-AC9E-115F@compuserve.com>n  J         Re : (which was completely unneccesary, but I thought I was doing=   the right thing...) H "If it ain't broke, don't fix it!"  Especially if you lack the skills to fix your mistakes!!!   >>> B /R5:1 dkb300 SYSBOOT> USE CURRENT SYSBOOT> SET STARTUP_P1 "MIN"  SYSBOOT> WRITE CURRENT SYSBOOT> CONTINUEp  J         You have just done a minimum boot/booted into single user mode in=   Unix-speak.r6 Edit SYSTARTUP_VMS.COM and remove the offending line!.   $ MCR SYSGEN SYSGEN> USE CURRENTa SYSGEN> SET STARTUP_ P1 "" SYSGEN> WRITE CURRENT7 SYSGEN> EXIT   and reboot.i  !         Go thou, and sin no more!   ) Message text written by "Steven Shamlian"eH >I have never posted to comp.os.vms before, as I have never been able to geteJ newsgroup access to work (well) with previous ISPs.  (I have, however, re= adJ the newsgroup through Deja News.)  Anyway, I am partial owner and current=  G sysadmin of Hobbes (which is currently down until someone can give me aeD hand), a free server on the web running VMS.  To cut to the quick, IJ modified SYSTARTUP_VMS.COM, innocently adding (among other things) a line=   toJ mount the bootdrive (which was completely unneccesary, but I thought I wa= soJ doing the right thing...) which read something like "mount /system dkb300=  J dkb300 dkb300".  So then I rebooted the vax and everything was OK until (= I H suspect) that line was reached, as I got 3 errors, saying first that theH drive was already mounted, and then that the drive was not available forJ mounting, and then again taht the drive was unavailable for mounting.  At=  G this poit,  the system hangs.  Does anyone know how to get out of this?lJ Perhaps there's a way to confirm each command in the startup file?  Hobbe= sb is a VS3100/40 with VMS 7.2a  Thanks very much for your help!<   ------------------------------   Date: 18 Jul 2000 12:45:40 GMT2 From: hoffman@xdelta.zko.dec.nospam (Hoff Hoffman)% Subject: Re: Hobbes frozen on startupo6 Message-ID: <8l1jhk$su1$1@mailint03.im.hou.compaq.com>  [ In article <sn7849e3o53155@corp.supernews.com>, "John E. Malmberg" <wb8tyw@qsl.net> writes:s ..  ;   In addition to John's comments, please place the command:o       $ Set NoOn  ,   at the top of the local SYSTARTUP_VMS.COM.  >   I'm guessing -- without indication of what happened and what@   error messages were displayed -- that the edits simply caused @   the SYSTARTUP_VMS.COM procedure to blow out with an error, andA   no error handling (Set NoOn or otherwise) had been established.f  N  --------------------------- pure personal opinion ---------------------------L    Hoff (Stephen) Hoffman   OpenVMS Engineering   hoffman#xdelta.zko.dec.com   ------------------------------    Date: 18 Jul 2000 15:11:41 +0200G From: Jan Vorbrueggen <jan@mailhost.neuroinformatik.ruhr-uni-bochum.de>s% Subject: Re: Hobbes frozen on startupdH Message-ID: <y4u2dnoa5u.fsf@mailhost.neuroinformatik.ruhr-uni-bochum.de>  L Alternatively, Hoff, the MOUNT command was WAITing for divine, err, operator
 intervention.t   	Jan   ------------------------------   Date: 18 Jul 2000 14:34:50 GMT2 From: hoffman@xdelta.zko.dec.nospam (Hoff Hoffman)% Subject: Re: Hobbes frozen on startup-5 Message-ID: <8l1pua$lq$1@mailint03.im.hou.compaq.com>a   In article <y4u2dnoa5u.fsf@mailhost.neuroinformatik.ruhr-uni-bochum.de>, Jan Vorbrueggen <jan@mailhost.neuroinformatik.ruhr-uni-bochum.de> writes:M :Alternatively, Hoff, the MOUNT command was WAITing for divine, err, operatore :intervention.  *   Good point.  This is also a possibility.  L   It is also possible (and fully supported) to mount the same shared device M   multiple times, which can be particularly useful from within an environmenteM   such as a batch job, as it can keep the disk from being dismounted out fromGM   underneath the job -- though given the problem report, this particular caseg   probably didn't happen.o  L   To avoid waiting for those cases where MOUNT would wish to engage the helpK   of a system operator to resolve a problem, MOUNT/NOASSIST can be helpful..G   (In addition to adding the SET NOON that was mentioned else-posting.)   K   Without the error message text(s), anything is just a guess, of course...e  N  --------------------------- pure personal opinion ---------------------------L    Hoff (Stephen) Hoffman   OpenVMS Engineering   hoffman#xdelta.zko.dec.com   ------------------------------  % Date: Tue, 18 Jul 2000 13:54:42 +0800r5 From: Netsurfer <netsurfer@sentosa.singaporemail.com>aE Subject: How to use F$GETQUI to retrieve entry number of a batch job?n8 Message-ID: <h2r7nscrjml42d3kb5d09219qb5mphrmbm@4ax.com>  B I am running a batch job to process some data files retrieved from remote activated FTP.   C Sometimes the FTP process were delayed and not sent on-time, and myi1 consolidation process started as fixed scheduled.=  8 I had wrote a DCL file to check the files 10 mins before< consolidation, and page (via kermit) me when the FTP failed.  F I had to manually get the entry numbers of all interlinked batch jobs,@ and delay them 15 mins from their respective scheduled run time.  . I am trying to automate the manual procedures.E I had not been very successful as lexical function (F$GETQUI) is veryI foreign to me.  D All batch jobs are run using "OPERATOR", sometimes other UIC of same@ account group, I believe F$GETQUI only return values of same UIC unless specify job context.   < My consolidation batch job is FSH100 on batch queue EDP$JOB.  % Anyone able to give me some pointers?t   TIAh        Regards,  	 Netsurferd
 97722171 (HP). 97090381 (Pgr)        s ====R For any personal email replies, please remove " sentosa. " from my E-mail address.   ------------------------------  % Date: Tue, 18 Jul 2000 03:20:06 -0400r2 From: rdeininger@mindspring.com (Robert Deininger)I Subject: Re: How to use F$GETQUI to retrieve entry number of a batch job?tL Message-ID: <rdeininger-1807000320070001@user-2iveage.dialup.mindspring.com>  c In article <h2r7nscrjml42d3kb5d09219qb5mphrmbm@4ax.com>, netsurfer@sentosa.singaporemail.com wrote:    > 0 > I am trying to automate the manual procedures.G > I had not been very successful as lexical function (F$GETQUI) is veryf > foreign to me. > F > All batch jobs are run using "OPERATOR", sometimes other UIC of sameB > account group, I believe F$GETQUI only return values of same UIC > unless specify job context.s > > > My consolidation batch job is FSH100 on batch queue EDP$JOB. > ' > Anyone able to give me some pointers?e  C This is too simple to do what you want. (I'm not completely certainkD what you are trying to do.)  It simply returns all the entry numbers( for batch jobs for the current username:   $entry_loop:E $ ent = f$getqui("display_entry","entry_number","*","wildcard,batch")u $ if ent .nes. ""e $ then $    write sys$output enta $    goto entry_loop $ endifg $u $ exit  C If you want info about entrys belonging to other usernames, I thinkiH you will have to use the "display_job" form of the lexical, and probablyA use the "freeze_context" flag along with multiple f$getqui calls.l   -- b Robert Deininger rdeininger@mindspring.comg   ------------------------------  % Date: Tue, 18 Jul 2000 12:43:54 -0400-- From: JF Mezei <jfmezei.spamnot@videotron.ca>cI Subject: Re: How to use F$GETQUI to retrieve entry number of a batch job?c, Message-ID: <39748949.C4B79766@videotron.ca>   Netsurfer wrote:: > I had wrote a DCL file to check the files 10 mins before> > consolidation, and page (via kermit) me when the FTP failed. > H > I had to manually get the entry numbers of all interlinked batch jobs,B > and delay them 15 mins from their respective scheduled run time. > 0 > I am trying to automate the manual procedures.G > I had not been very successful as lexical function (F$GETQUI) is veryh > foreign to me.  ' I would suggest you  $ HELP SYNCHRONIZEh   Here is one way to do this:i  ? Assuming you have 5 jobs that need to run once the FTP is done:h  M You create a Job-0 which simply waits for the FTP t complete/files to appear.1  N Job-1 starts right away, and SUBMITS Job-0. Its entry is known with the $ENTRYM symbol set by SUBMIT, you you simply need to SYNCHRONIZE/ENTRY='$ENTRY. JOB-1t! then waits until JOB-0 completes.e  N Once JOB-0 completes, JOB-1 continues past the SYNCHRONIZE statement. At whichM point, you might get JOB-1 to submit the other jobs. Alternatively, you couldaX get the other jobs to SYNCHRONIZE on JOB-1 (by job name) and wait for JOB-1 to complete.  I The disadvantage of SYNCHRONIZE is that the batch job is actually runningEN while it is waiting, so it takes a slot in the bacth queue (if you have limits; on how many jobs can execute simultaneously, that matters).I   ------------------------------  % Date: Tue, 18 Jul 2000 12:53:34 -0400e- From: "Peter Weaver" <peter.weaver@stelco.ca>II Subject: Re: How to use F$GETQUI to retrieve entry number of a batch job?i. Message-ID: <sn92t3291nk49@corp.supernews.com>   Netsurfer wrote in message ...C >I am running a batch job to process some data files retrieved from  >remote activated FTP. >iD >Sometimes the FTP process were delayed and not sent on-time, and my2 >consolidation process started as fixed scheduled. > ...RA >I had to manually get the entry numbers of all interlinked batch  jobs,fA >and delay them 15 mins from their respective scheduled run time.c > ...nE >All batch jobs are run using "OPERATOR", sometimes other UIC of sametA >account group, I believe F$GETQUI only return values of same UICl >unless specify job context. >d= >My consolidation batch job is FSH100 on batch queue EDP$JOB.  > ...n   Have you tried  
 $ SET NOON $ SYNC /QUEUE=EDP$JOB FSH100 $ SET ON  = in your consolidation job? That may be your easiest solution.l  C Or you can have the job that currently pages you do something like;    $ temp=f$getqui("")tC $ qname=f$getqui("DISPLAY_QUEUE","QUEUE_NAME","EDP$JOB","WILDCARD")  $loop_on_jobs:? $ jname=f$getqui("DISPLAY_JOB","JOB_NAME",,"ALL_JOBS,WILDCARD")j& $ if "''jname'" .eqs. "" then goto end? $ if "''jname'" .eqs. "JOB_I_WANT_TO_DELAY" then gosub delay_15t> $ if "''jname'" .eqs. "ANOTHER_JOB_I_WANT_TO_DELAY" then gosub delay_15B $ if "''jname'" .eqs. "YET_ANOTHER_JOB_I_WANT_TO_DELAY" then gosub delay_15 $ goto loop_on_jobs. $!
 $delay_15: $ entry_number =8 f$getqui("DISPLAY_JOB","ENTRY_NUMBER",,"FREEZE_CONTEXT")E $ start_time = f$getqui("DISPLAY_JOB","AFTER_TIME",,"FREEZE_CONTEXT")s6 $ new_time = F$CVTIME(START_TIME+"+:15:00","ABSOLUTE")/ $ SET ENTRY 'ENTRY_NUMBER' /AFTER="''NEW_TIME'"  $ return $! $end:2 $!   ------------------------------  # Date: Tue, 18 Jul 2000 17:16:53 GMT  From: byatesiii@my-deja.com I Subject: Re: How to use F$GETQUI to retrieve entry number of a batch job?c( Message-ID: <8l23dg$hq$1@nnrp1.deja.com>  8 In article <h2r7nscrjml42d3kb5d09219qb5mphrmbm@4ax.com>,,   netsurfer@sentosa.singaporemail.com wrote:D > I am running a batch job to process some data files retrieved from > remote activated FTP.. >ME > Sometimes the FTP process were delayed and not sent on-time, and my.3 > consolidation process started as fixed scheduled.R >S: > I had wrote a DCL file to check the files 10 mins before> > consolidation, and page (via kermit) me when the FTP failed. >gH > I had to manually get the entry numbers of all interlinked batch jobs,B > and delay them 15 mins from their respective scheduled run time. >n0 > I am trying to automate the manual procedures.G > I had not been very successful as lexical function (F$GETQUI) is very= > foreign to me. >=F > All batch jobs are run using "OPERATOR", sometimes other UIC of sameB > account group, I believe F$GETQUI only return values of same UIC > unless specify job context.  >s> > My consolidation batch job is FSH100 on batch queue EDP$JOB. >=' > Anyone able to give me some pointers?- >- > TIA- > 
 > Regards, >0 > Netsurfer5 > 97722171 (HP)@ > 97090381 (Pgr) > G Sounds like something a friend asked me once. My suggestion was, in the E login.com of the ftp user, under the proper section (not interactive,$F not batch, but network I guess) enter the appropriate actions (submit,G in your case). This way, you can submit your jobs WHEN the ftp logs in,nF and you can pass the process-id of the login to your routine, and just@ have it wait for that process to disappear. At this point, checkA everything is ok. If not, page you. If so, continue processing...e    & Sent via Deja.com http://www.deja.com/ Before you buy.e   ------------------------------  % Date: Tue, 18 Jul 2000 11:42:00 +0100o/ From: Nigel Arnot <sysmgr@maxwell.ph.kcl.ac.uk>tL Subject: re: I/O caching and UNIX evaluations (was: Re: got to remember ...)7 Message-ID: <009ED435.A5CE49FD.12@maxwell.ph.kcl.ac.uk>    >  > In article <rdeininger-1507001131360001@user-2ivebf7.dialup.mindspring.com>, rdeininger@mindspring.com (Robert Deininger) writes:e > >rG > >When I read that the new GS-series machines REQUIRE a billy-box as afJ > >system console, I almost fell out of my chair.  24x7x365, or until your# > >console goes BSOD.  Good Grief! r  lF But surely the console is hot-swappable, and not designed such that a M console BSOD/reboot  during normal GS ops causes anything untoward to happen?c  D If it's not designed that way, something needs to be done about it! @ (cue painful memories of an 11/780 with a faulty LSI-11 console)   	Yours,S
 		Nigel Arnoth- 		NRA@MAXWELL.PH.KCL.AC.UK                   e  7 		"In the beginning there was nothing, which exploded."n   ------------------------------    Date: 18 Jul 2000 09:35:19 -0500, From: koehler@eisner.decus.org (Bob Koehler)4 Subject: Re: JAVA Fast Virtual Machine now available+ Message-ID: <cwxmjynysmWS@eisner.decus.org>T  a In article <8kv5c4$qfk@gap.cco.caltech.edu>, mathog@seqaxp.bio.caltech.edu (David Mathog) writes:t  H > Now how about a real honest to goodness Java (and/or java bytecode) toN > object file _compiler_?   The limit of speed improvements to a "fast virtualL > machine" is the speed of "compiled to native code", so rather then gettingL > there incrementally with faster and faster "Fast Virtual Machine"s why not! > go right for the final payoff? f  F Wouldn't that expose Compaq to the same sort of lawsuit Microsoft lostH to Sun?  Sun OWNS Java, and IIRC compiling to native mode was one of theE things Sun accused MS to be doing in violation of the Java copyright.l   ------------------------------    Date: 18 Jul 2000 15:14:35 +0200G From: Jan Vorbrueggen <jan@mailhost.neuroinformatik.ruhr-uni-bochum.de><4 Subject: Re: JAVA Fast Virtual Machine now availableH Message-ID: <y4r98roa10.fsf@mailhost.neuroinformatik.ruhr-uni-bochum.de>  . koehler@eisner.decus.org (Bob Koehler) writes:  H > Wouldn't that expose Compaq to the same sort of lawsuit Microsoft lostJ > to Sun?  Sun OWNS Java, and IIRC compiling to native mode was one of theG > things Sun accused MS to be doing in violation of the Java copyright.i  I IIRC, the points of contention were non-IEEE floating-point semantics andeJ non-approved native callouts (probably violating the Java security model).   	Jan   ------------------------------  % Date: Tue, 18 Jul 2000 11:12:03 -0400:# From: John Vottero <John@MVPSI.com>g4 Subject: RE: JAVA Fast Virtual Machine now availableD Message-ID: <C15945A9D9EFCF11BA8B08002BBF1CCC0CD772@berry.mvpsi.com>   > -----Original Message-----B > From: koehler@eisner.decus.org [mailto:koehler@eisner.decus.org] > / > In article <8kv5c4$qfk@gap.cco.caltech.edu>, t6 > mathog@seqaxp.bio.caltech.edu (David Mathog) writes: > > > > Now how about a real honest to goodness Java (and/or java  > bytecode) to> > > object file _compiler_?   The limit of speed improvements  > to a "fast virtual; > > machine" is the speed of "compiled to native code", so   > rather then gettingG= > > there incrementally with faster and faster "Fast Virtual = > Machine"s why nott# > > go right for the final payoff? I > H > Wouldn't that expose Compaq to the same sort of lawsuit Microsoft lost@ > to Sun?  Sun OWNS Java, and IIRC compiling to native mode was  > one of theG > things Sun accused MS to be doing in violation of the Java copyright.  >   K I am not a lawyer (Thank God) but I don't think it's possible to copyright,cH patent or trademark a language.  Aston-Tate tried to do that with dBase, went to court and lost.   L I think the problem is in the run-time classes.  If you want to license themL from Sun you have to play by their rules.  If you want to recreate them, you* have to hope that Sun doesn't change them.   ------------------------------  # Date: Tue, 18 Jul 2000 17:07:17 GMTW From: Dirk Munk <munk@home.nl>4 Subject: Re: JAVA Fast Virtual Machine now available' Message-ID: <39748EC4.48D49907@home.nl>    John Vottero wrote:a >  > > -----Original Message-----D > > From: koehler@eisner.decus.org [mailto:koehler@eisner.decus.org] > > 0 > > In article <8kv5c4$qfk@gap.cco.caltech.edu>,8 > > mathog@seqaxp.bio.caltech.edu (David Mathog) writes: > >h? > > > Now how about a real honest to goodness Java (and/or javae > > bytecode) to? > > > object file _compiler_?   The limit of speed improvementse > > to a "fast virtual< > > > machine" is the speed of "compiled to native code", so > > rather then gettingo> > > > there incrementally with faster and faster "Fast Virtual > > Machine"s why not $ > > > go right for the final payoff? > >oJ > > Wouldn't that expose Compaq to the same sort of lawsuit Microsoft lostA > > to Sun?  Sun OWNS Java, and IIRC compiling to native mode waso > > one of theI > > things Sun accused MS to be doing in violation of the Java copyright.  > >3 > M > I am not a lawyer (Thank God) but I don't think it's possible to copyright,)J > patent or trademark a language.  Aston-Tate tried to do that with dBase, > went to court and lost.h  F It is possible. The US department of defence had (has ?) the trademarkH for ADA. You could only call your Ada language "ADA" if it was certified once (?) a year.   > N > I think the problem is in the run-time classes.  If you want to license themN > from Sun you have to play by their rules.  If you want to recreate them, you, > have to hope that Sun doesn't change them.   ------------------------------   Date: 18 Jul 2000 09:26:28 PDT* From: abuse@flying-disk.com (Alan Frisbie)3 Subject: Keyboard/Video/Mouse switch for Alpha & PCo! Message-ID: <$HlZAmWyAxf6@flying>r  ; I am looking for a KVM (Keyboard, Video, Mouse) switch that ) will work well with a variety of systems:a       2 - AlphaStation 200 (VMS)     1 - AlphaServer 1000A (VMS)a-     3 - Generic PCs (Linux and Windows 95/98)u  6 What brands are know to work well with both Alphas and PCs?   Any that I should avoid?   Thanks,  Alan   -- R -- MB --  Alan E. Frisbie             Frisbie "AT" Flying-Disk "DOT" Com@ --  Flying Disk Systems, Inc.   Abuse "AT" Flying-Disk "DOT" Com   ------------------------------  % Date: Tue, 18 Jul 2000 14:54:18 +0000e$ From: Steve.Spires@yellowpages.co.uk6 Subject: Looking for information on PE parameter usage/ Message-ID: <00256920.0051FA42.00@quegw01.btyp>a   cc:u bcc:= Contact:   Tel: 3063  -  VSSG, 1st Floor, Bridge Street Plaza:  - Looking for information on PE parameter usage5  P Can anyone point me in the right direction for help on the PE parameter settingsN in SYSGEN? I see that they are reserved parameters, but I wonder of some could5 help us with Oracle/VMS/Cluster prefromance problems.G   Steve Spires VMS System Manager BT/Yellow Pages)     [Information] -- PostMaster:D This transmission is intended solely for the addressee(s) and may beL confidential. 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 Thank you.   ------------------------------    Date: 18 Jul 2000 11:21:32 -0500* From: young_r@eisner.decus.org (Rob Young): Subject: Re: Looking for information on PE parameter usage+ Message-ID: <b$F+VoiSwUtQ@eisner.decus.org>o  V In article <00256920.0051FA42.00@quegw01.btyp>, Steve.Spires@yellowpages.co.uk writes: > cc:e > bcc:? > Contact:   Tel: 3063  -  VSSG, 1st Floor, Bridge Street Plazag > / > Looking for information on PE parameter usage  > R > Can anyone point me in the right direction for help on the PE parameter settingsP > in SYSGEN? I see that they are reserved parameters, but I wonder of some could7 > help us with Oracle/VMS/Cluster prefromance problems.d >   : 	You know.. Deja is still down and it stinks up the house.  : 	Fortunately, I occasioally save a gem.  Keith posted this: 	out here March 1999.  This has been discussed on occasionA 	and George Cornelius points out he sets PE1 to 1000 (I believe).r  < 	You may wish to contact Keith directly.  He may have a tool9 	to automate the checking by now :-).  If so, let us know  	what you find.d   				Robn   ---   B PE1 controls the maximum size of a lock tree that is allowed to beF remastered _off of_ the node on which it is set.  (It has no effect onH the movement of lock trees _onto_ the node.)  It is most often needed inM clusters where 2 or more nodes of equal horsepower run the same workload, andhM lock mastership of critical lock trees thrashes back and forth between nodes.uH If the lock trees are fairly large, it can take a fair amount of time toL remaster them, because the algorithm (at least as of 7.1) moves one lock perD SCS message. (I've observed I/O pauses of 10 to 50 seconds caused byL unthrottled lock mastering in a cluster with several lock trees of 15K locks each.)  M A fairly simple way to see if and when you're getting remastering activity isd7 to check the counters which track remastering messages:s   $ analyze/systemB eval @pms$gl_rm_rbld_rcvd  !Count of remastering messages received> eval @pms$gl_rm_rbld_sent  !Count of remastering messages sent  F By doing this on each node, and watching the values over time, you canE see where lock trees are being moved to and from.  If you see a pauseeI in I/O, you can check the counters to see if they've recently incremented N by a large amount, and thus tell whethern or not remastering caused the pause.  G PE1 is a dynamic parameter, so you can set it to a small non-zero valuee> and see if that helps, then set it back to zero if it doesn't.G -----------------------------------------------------------------------TG Keith Parris|Integrity Computing,Inc.|parris@decuserve.decus.org-nospamyF VMS Consulting: Clusters, Perf., Alpha porting, Storage&I/O, Internals  G -----------== Posted via Deja News, The Discussion Network ==----------oG http://www.dejanews.com/       Search, Read, Discuss, or Start Your Ownn   ------------------------------    Date: 18 Jul 2000 11:34:08 -0500* From: young_r@eisner.decus.org (Rob Young): Subject: Re: Looking for information on PE parameter usage+ Message-ID: <3DE11XXRR+m2@eisner.decus.org>"  X In article <b$F+VoiSwUtQ@eisner.decus.org>, young_r@eisner.decus.org (Rob Young) writes: > < > 	You know.. Deja is still down and it stinks up the house.  @ 	Clarifying.. all old archives aren't on line.  Deja isn't down.   				Robn   ------------------------------    Date: 18 Jul 2000 14:16:14 -0500* From: young_r@eisner.decus.org (Rob Young): Subject: Re: Looking for information on PE parameter usage+ Message-ID: <K3tLFWaBFiYb@eisner.decus.org>M  V In article <00256920.0051FA42.00@quegw01.btyp>, Steve.Spires@yellowpages.co.uk writes: > cc:f > bcc:? > Contact:   Tel: 3063  -  VSSG, 1st Floor, Bridge Street Plaza  > / > Looking for information on PE parameter usage0 > R > Can anyone point me in the right direction for help on the PE parameter settingsP > in SYSGEN? I see that they are reserved parameters, but I wonder of some could7 > help us with Oracle/VMS/Cluster prefromance problems.  >    	DSN article explaining PE1:    J                           48.how NOT to propagate a lock to another node?   . javascript:doWIZARD('/wizard/group6/674.html')    / 	Search "lock" and scroll down to old articles.    				Robu   ------------------------------   Date: 18 Jul 2000 15:36:52 GMT5 From: sb413ko@l1-hrz.uni-duisburg.de (Daniel Koerner)t, Subject: MicroVax 3100-M40 hardware problems3 Message-ID: <8l1tik$68d$2@news-hrz.uni-duisburg.de>l  	 Hi folks,T  G I had some trouble booting a MicroVAX 3100-M40 (at this time with VMS).l* It seems there are some hardware problems.D The system has 32 MB RAM (which is the maximum) and three harddisks.   Boot messages are:   KA45-A V1.4-38D-V4.2 08-00-2B-93-85-E5a 32MB! |                               |B! #################################  ?? 001   9        NI  0172  . >>>               |>           and so on  ....    ' Any hint could help - so please answer.s       Daniel   ------------------------------  # Date: Tue, 18 Jul 2000 15:51:10 GMTu, From: "J. Scott Greig" <jsgreig@geminaq.com>0 Subject: Re: MicroVax 3100-M40 hardware problems6 Message-ID: <O1%c5.60850$9t5.234245@quark.idirect.com>  B "Daniel Koerner" <sb413ko@l1-hrz.uni-duisburg.de> wrote in message- news:8l1tik$68d$2@news-hrz.uni-duisburg.de...  > Hi folks,r > I > I had some trouble booting a MicroVAX 3100-M40 (at this time with VMS).v, > It seems there are some hardware problems.F > The system has 32 MB RAM (which is the maximum) and three harddisks. >n > Boot messages are: >  > KA45-A V1.4-38D-V4.2 > 08-00-2B-93-85-E5e > 32MB# > |                               |s# > #################################r > ?? 001   9        NI  0172  ? The NI indicates the ethernet  controller (on the motherboard).eB It's possible that the ethernet is not properly terminated (sorry,6 I don't know specifically what error code 0172 means).@ The double question mark indicates a fatal error i.e. it must be' correcvted before the system will boot.U  > On the back of the 3140 are two ethernet access ports, one AUI@ and one Thinwire - between these two is a switch that determinesC which ethernet access port is to be used.  Even if no connection is$A made, the selected port must be terminated, so for the AUI port an? (I don't know what-to-call-it - DEQ part number is 12-22196-01)C@ should be installed, or for the thinwire, a T-connector with two% 50ohm terminators should be in place.l   Hope this helpsm Scotts >A0 > >>>               |>           and so on  .... >f >') > Any hint could help - so please answer.L >  >n >s > Daniel   ------------------------------  , Date: Tue, 18 Jul 2000 08:22:08 +0200 (CEST): From: "Gotfryd Smolik, VMS lists" <gotfryd@stanpol.com.pl> Subject: Re: openvms 6.2-1H3J Message-ID: <Pine.LNX.4.21.0007180816360.18838-100000@irys.stanpol.com.pl>  & On Tue, 18 Jul 2000, DENNIS TOH wrote: [...] @ +Please help on the following error when copy from one system to +the other. Thanks.6 [...] 3 +-RMS-E-DAC, ACP file deaccess failed during $CLOSEs; +-SYSTEM-F-NOTPRINTED, failed to queue spool file for print-  &  Have you load all mandatory patches ?  @  I am sure, that one version "near 6.2" (can't remember exactly,@ if also 1H3) has a bug with deaccess (have seen it, AFAIR, with : some AUDIT operation) and a patch for that problem exists.?  Please: always claim that the system has all mandatory patches, installed -;) !l  
 +Best Regardst    The same - Gotfrydd   --  E =====================================================================tF $ ON F$ERROR("LANGUAGE","ENGLISH","IN_MESSAGE").GT.F$ERROR("NORMAL") - 		THEN EXCUSE/OBJECT=ME . $!                        GS@stanpol.zabrze.plE =====================================================================o   ------------------------------  % Date: Tue, 18 Jul 2000 09:05:11 -0300a1 From: "Boyle, Darren" <boyledj@bankofbermuda.com>= Subject: RE: openvms 6.2-1H3K Message-ID: <9F664D538536D411BD3200508B6FF01A3336F0@bdant027.bda.bobda.com>U  L Is the remote device TTA0 on node APACPI actually spooled to a disk ??  SHOWK DEVICE/FULL TTA0  My quess would be that it's not since you don't appear tov) have a queue associated with this device.a - Darren     > ----------2 > From: 	DENNIS TOH[SMTP:DENNIS.TOH@MEMO.ikea.com]( > Sent: 	Tuesday, July 18, 2000 12:52 AM > To: 	Info-VAX@Mvb.Saic.Com > Subject: 	openvms 6.2-1H3  > C > --- Received from IKEA5.DTOH 65-3739881            00-07-18 05.52r >  > Hi,i > A > Please help on the following error when copy from one system toe > the other. Thanks. > @ > copy /log spool_dir:calcjob_pcalist_20015871.lis APACPI::TTA0:@ > %COPY-S-COPIED, SYS$SPOOL:[DATA]CALCJOB_PCALIST_20015871.LIS;1 > copied to APACPI: ; > :TTA0:[DECNET]CALCJOB_PCALIST_20015871.LIS;1 (62 records)o! > %COPY-E-CLOSEOUT, error closingb2 > APACPI::TTA0:[DECNET]CALCJOB_PCALIST_20015871.LI > S;1 as output24 > -RMS-E-DAC, ACP file deaccess failed during $CLOSE< > -SYSTEM-F-NOTPRINTED, failed to queue spool file for print >  > Best Regards > Dennis > D > ---- 00-07-18 05.52 ---- Sent to       --------------------------- >   -> info-vax(a)mvb.saic.com >  >     F **********************************************************************C This message and any files transmitted with it are confidential andyJ may be privileged and/or subject to the provisions of privacy legislation.M They are intended solely for the use of the individual or entity to whom they L are addressed. If the reader of this message is not the intended recipient, B please notify the sender immediately and then delete this message.I You are notified that reliance on, disclosure of, distribution or copyingf of this message is prohibited.   Bank of BermudaSF **********************************************************************   ------------------------------  % Date: Tue, 18 Jul 2000 13:28:49 +0200-' From: "David LAZIMY" <david@lazimy.com>-/ Subject: Pathworks v6.0B and its administration). Message-ID: <8l1f23$hk0$1@reader1.imaginet.fr>   Hi,   F I used to work with Pathworks 5.0 (pretty old !!) and using a semi-GUIE interface to manage the pathworks share and properties of the server.tK I'm using version 6.0B and it seems that the only way to work on the server F is the command line interface you can use coming with the "administer" command.F Does anybody know if there is a way to use a little more user friendlyK interface to work on the console all the more as the people working here onn1 VMS are not used to the Windows administration...t  
 Thanks a lot,  David - david@lazimy.com   ------------------------------  % Date: Tue, 18 Jul 2000 08:54:52 -0400 - From: "Mitchell, David R." <mitchell@WPI.EDU>n3 Subject: RE: Pathworks v6.0B and its administration-B Message-ID: <FE1835D68492D311BF7900508B5BEB0D0DE8D3@petra.WPI.EDU>  I As far as I know all of the old Pathworks GUI stuff is gone with the 6.0xVF and above.  Once you get in through administer the commands are prettyH straightforward.  Of course, the NT tools (user manager, server manager,G event log) work as well.  Whether you call them "user friendly" or not,iD well, I'm not going to get into that.  Not in this group anyways ;-)   Davida   > -----Original Message-----. > From: David LAZIMY [mailto:david@lazimy.com]& > Sent: Tuesday, July 18, 2000 7:29 AM > To: Info-VAX@Mvb.Saic.Com 1 > Subject: Pathworks v6.0B and its administrationb >  >  > Hi,e > H > I used to work with Pathworks 5.0 (pretty old !!) and using a semi-GUIG > interface to manage the pathworks share and properties of the server.c@ > I'm using version 6.0B and it seems that the only way to work  > on the server0H > is the command line interface you can use coming with the "administer"
 > command.H > Does anybody know if there is a way to use a little more user friendly> > interface to work on the console all the more as the people  > working here on 3 > VMS are not used to the Windows administration...( >  > Thanks a lot,o > David - david@lazimy.com >  >  >  >    ------------------------------  % Date: Tue, 18 Jul 2000 14:02:34 +0200 ( From: Bernd Eckstein <B.Eckstein@cli.de> Subject: Re: Pearl Compilern& Message-ID: <3974475A.82A41DD4@cli.de>   "Barry Treahy, Jr." schrieb: > J > I did a quick search on Pearl and Compilers and came across this URL for- > a German site which you might find usefull:  > : >     http://www.real-time.de/real-time/news/news97-2.html > ) Please try Werums Homepage for Pearl90 ato3 http://www.werum.de/english/produkt/pearl/index.htme     -- GH There is no substitute for good manners, except, perhaps, fast reflexes.  ( Mit freundlichen Gruessen / Best regardsC B.Eckstein, CLI GmbH - mailto:B.Eckstein@cli.de - http://www.cli.de-C Matthiashofstr. 28, D-52064 Aachen - Fon: +49 241 47051-0, Fax: -89    ------------------------------  % Date: Tue, 18 Jul 2000 10:23:09 +0000o@ From: "Etienne Rompr=?ISO-8859-1?B?6Q==?=" <rompre@rompre.qc.ca>? Subject: Set up decserver 90m as ppp dial-in on Alpha with VMS.c5 Message-ID: <nJZc5.1072$y4.39274@weber.videotron.net>-   Hi,7  - We have a Alpha Server with Open Vms and ucx.   K Can I use a decserveur 90M with a modem for a remote PPP dial-in with a mack! or PC to use the company network?    Our 90M now use LAT.  F If you known some good site for this type of config, any help would be appreciated.   Thanks!      -- Etienne Rompr Location Rompr Lte
 Qubec Canadao   email: rompre@rompre.qc.ca web:  http://www.rompre.qc.ca/  e   ------------------------------  % Date: Tue, 18 Jul 2000 11:28:48 -0300 1 From: "Boyle, Darren" <boyledj@bankofbermuda.com>h0 Subject: Silly Question, Remote Process priorityK Message-ID: <9F664D538536D411BD3200508B6FF01A3336FE@bdant027.bda.bobda.com>    Hi,t  A 	Sorry for the silly question, it's not even important really I'mo( just curious.  Consider this scenario...I I'm logged onto node  VMS1, I raise my base priority to 8 then initiate an4 network copy or FTP or something alike to node VMS2.E Where would the remote process priority come from, surely it's almost J pointless in raising my local priority to do this copy, Yes ??.  What I do3 locally will not affect my remote process, True ??.d  C So unless my node VMS1 is heavily utilised then no point raising my  priority, True ??.  H My real question is, is there a way (other than editing the remote loginI script) to raise my remote priority from my original host machine.  Is itvK even my priority or that of the FAL listener or FTP server.  This being thetF case I imagine it is controlled by the UAF flags of the FAL account ?. TIA, DarrenL ----------------------------------------------------------------------------B ------------------------------------------------------------------; Darren James Boyle,              Telephone : (441) 299-6425  Lead Analyst Programmer,: ISD VMS Technical Services,  Fax          : (441) 299-6502 Bank of Bermuda0J Par-la-Ville Branch,                EMail      : BoyleDJ@BankofBermuda.com Hamilton Bermuda.iL ----------------------------------------------------------------------------B ------------------------------------------------------------------   ------------------------------   Date: 18 Jul 2000 14:45:14 GMT2 From: hoffman@xdelta.zko.dec.nospam (Hoff Hoffman)4 Subject: Re: Silly Question, Remote Process priority5 Message-ID: <8l1qhq$or$1@mailint03.im.hou.compaq.com>r   In article <9F664D538536D411BD3200508B6FF01A3336FE@bdant027.bda.bobda.com>, "Boyle, Darren" <boyledj@bankofbermuda.com> writes:e  D   The local process priority has little direct effect on the process@   scheduling of any other process, whether the local process is D   communicating with the other process running on the local node or    on a remote node.u  D   Indirect effects of the local process scheduling -- both positive E   and potentially negative -- are also obviously possible, of course.t  8 :....is there a way (other than editing the remote loginC :script) to raise my remote priority from my original host machine.g  E   Either via SET command in the DCL invoked by the remote FAL accountdC   (though you apparently don't want to use this option) (via LOGIN,e@   SYLOGIN, or configuring FAL.COM and setting up the FAL$COMMANDB   symbol), or via the priority default established for the remote C   username that FAL is operating under, or via something else with hD   access on the remote system that sees this is a "special" process +   and that it deserves  a priority boost.     8   There are probably a few other approaches around, too.  N  --------------------------- pure personal opinion ---------------------------L    Hoff (Stephen) Hoffman   OpenVMS Engineering   hoffman#xdelta.zko.dec.com   ------------------------------  % Date: Tue, 18 Jul 2000 11:32:13 -0400k+ From: Tim Shoppa <shoppa@trailing-edge.com> 4 Subject: Re: Silly Question, Remote Process priority1 Message-ID: <3974403D.7CC65365@trailing-edge.com>t   Boyle, Darren wrote: >  > Hi,u > J >         Sorry for the silly question, it's not even important really I'm* > just curious.  Consider this scenario...K > I'm logged onto node  VMS1, I raise my base priority to 8 then initiate as6 > network copy or FTP or something alike to node VMS2.G > Where would the remote process priority come from, surely it's almostiL > pointless in raising my local priority to do this copy, Yes ??.  What I do5 > locally will not affect my remote process, True ??.w > E > So unless my node VMS1 is heavily utilised then no point raising myc > priority, True ??. > J > My real question is, is there a way (other than editing the remote loginK > script) to raise my remote priority from my original host machine.  Is itsM > even my priority or that of the FAL listener or FTP server.  This being thekH > case I imagine it is controlled by the UAF flags of the FAL account ?. > TIA, > Darren  B Would any priority change make any measurable difference at all on? a network-resource-limited task like FTP'ing a file?  I suppose G the answer to this depends on your CPU and the speed of the connection,hB but in my experience something as lowly as an old VS3100-38 (under< 4 VUPS) can saturate several T1 connections as a FTP server.  B If your FTP transfers are being done in ASCII mode, you might lookC at doing them in binary instead.  With both UCX and Multinet stacks!? I do notice a significant difference in CPU utilization between C the two modes.  This may have more to do with the RMS overhead thannE with the work of changing newline convention to Unix standards on thegA way out and back to VMS convention on the way back.  And at least A some FTP server/client combinations are smart enough to negotiate,B "STRU O VMS" which is probably better than either ASCII or binary.D If your current FTP server/client is brain-dead (i.e. UCX) you ought% to consider upgrading to MadGoat FTP.   = Are there any VMS TCP/IP stacks which will prioritize packets-C based on the user process's priority?  This would be a neat feature|= to have, but I doubt it exists in current products/standards.e   Tim.   ------------------------------  % Date: Tue, 18 Jul 2000 15:44:19 +0000h- From: SysAdmin <djesys.nospam@fsi.net.mapson>d4 Subject: Re: Silly Question, Remote Process priority. Message-ID: <39747B53.86DA37FF@fsi.net.mapson>   "Boyle, Darren" wrote: >[snip] J > My real question is, is there a way (other than editing the remote loginK > script) to raise my remote priority from my original host machine.  Is itcM > even my priority or that of the FAL listener or FTP server.  This being the:H > case I imagine it is controlled by the UAF flags of the FAL account ?.  F I'd need to ask, what is the root problem that you're trying to solve?  C When copying files over "the network" - ANY network - the transportrA medium itself is enough of a bottleneck (in most cases) to renderiF process priority almost irrelevant. Unless your system is swapping (orG even paging heavily), I'd expect client/host performance considerationslH to be largely secondary, if transer time seems to be a problem. I'd wantG to look into your network I/O related parameters and the network itselfe9 in some depth before taking a look at process priorities.n   IMHO...n   David J. Dachterat   ------------------------------   Date: 18 Jul 2000 16:58:13 GMT2 From: mathog@seqaxp.bio.caltech.edu (David Mathog)  Subject: speaking of performance, Message-ID: <8l22b5$hhl@gap.cco.caltech.edu>  K CPU clock speeds have been roaring upward - unless you happened to be usingZI an Alpha - in which case they have not changed at all recently. Here is ar5 comparison of SPEC numbers for a few current models:    +   Model     Cint95         CFP95   CPU type@0   DS10      24.6           47.9    466 Mhz 212640   XP1000    37.5           65.5    677 Mhz 21264/   AMD?      42.9           29.4    1 Ghz Athlonl`   Dell 420  38.7           33.6    800 Mhz PIII (I couldn't find any numbers for faster PIII's.)  J The Alphas are still holding their own in the floating point arena on "rawH power/CPU" measure.  Once you allow multiple machines into the equation,A the fp performance/$ figure (important when configuring Beowulfs)#9 is reasonably close between a Linux DS10 and an Athlon or F PentiumIII, but lower for an XP1000 than for either x86 architecture.   H However on the integer front things are not looking very good.  Even theK XP1000 now lags the high end x86 architecture machines (by a hair), and thecJ DS10 is completely out of the running, having been passed at 600Mhz by the# PIII and at 550 Mhz by the Athlon. r  G I wonder how long Compaq is going to let the Alpha stay stuck at these eL clock speeds before they bring out something faster?   I also wonder if any J of the current boxes will be upgradeable by a CPU swap, or if the upgrade E path will require whole new motherboards, or even be possible at all.e   Regards,   David Mathog mathog@seqaxp.bio.caltech.edu8? Manager, sequence analysis facility, biology division, Caltech     ------------------------------  % Date: Tue, 18 Jul 2000 18:30:09 +10002) From: "Mackay, Ian" <IMackay@nine.com.au>e- Subject: sys$sched system service help neededeB Message-ID: <7517D41517E6D11189EB00A0C96B422A045BEE12@TCNHOFEXC01>  K I am trying to use the sys$sched class scheduler but the documentation is ar# little brief even with the example   sys$example:class.c.  ; How can I tell that the class scheduler has been activated?A  J I have loaded the module as per the instructions but when I check how manyL ticks are left to each class after giving out quantum and then after waiting 10 secs, I get the same values.r  E Also the documentation doesn't say how much quantum to dole out. I am2H wondering whether to multiple my 10 secs worth by the number of CPUs the system has.n  * Thanks for any light you can shed on this.  
 Ian Mackay System and Network Manager Nine Network Australia Email imackay@pbl.com.au   ------------------------------  % Date: Tue, 18 Jul 2000 12:28:36 +0200-2 From: Giles Watermeyer <Giles@WitsICAM.wits.ac.za> Subject: TimeZone informations; Message-ID: <62167214B0C4D311877E0090273F12419FEA@WITSICAM>s   Hi all,n  J We here at the University of the Witwatersrand, Johannesburg are currently0 running OpenVMS 6.2 on our Dec Alpha 1000 4/255.  I I am struggling to get our Time synchronisation to work properly.  I keep % getting the following Operator error:u  8 %%%%%%%%%%%  OPCOM  18-JUL-2000 12:21:30.85  %%%%%%%%%%%  Message from user SYSTEM on ICAM< MultiNet Server: NTP: Clock is too far off -7231.772801 sec. [143.128.82.200]  L The reason I think is because of the TimeZone info.  which I can not seem to get working.  : I added the following line into the TIMEZONES.LOCAL files:  @ !       Zone Name       GMTOFF  RULES           Name    DST Name@ !       ---------       -----   -----           ----    -------- !=9 Zone    South-Africa    2:00    -               SAT     -R  4 We are in South Africa which is GMT+2:00 I then ran:  3 MU SET /TIMEZONE SAT /FILES=MULTINET:TIMEZONS.LOCAL   L which did not return any errors.  I have not rebooted (I don't know if it is5 necessary).  But we are still getting the same error.e  E If anyone has any idea of how I can fix this problem it would be mostb appreciated.   Many Thankse   Giles Watermeyer ICAM System Administrator0- University of the Witwatersrand, Johannesburgs Giles@witsICAM.wits.ac.zan TEL: +27 (11) 71-71872 FAX: +27 (11) 71-71871   ------------------------------  % Date: Tue, 18 Jul 2000 02:48:36 -0700v4 From: mapryan <mike.ryanNOmiSPAM@redmar.com.invalid> Subject: UCX problem9 Message-ID: <08ea5150.88412de1@usw-ex0106-045.remarq.com>T   Hi All,y  > Got a problem with UCX running in a clustered environment, and? I've forgotten the command I need as I iuse it so infrequently. % (Yes, I WILL document it this time !)   ? Anyway, create a new proxy for rsh in the UCX cluster database. ; Works fine, no problem. However, when trying to use the new_; proxy on the other cluster members, they all go "Huh ?!?!".]  > So, try to define the new proxy on them too, but it sez "Nope, that'd be a duplicate!".  : So, I obviously need to reload the permanent database into- volatile memory. What ucx command does this ?I    Thanks in advance for your help!   Cheers   Mike  @ Please excuse the message below, automatically added by remarq !    ; -----------------------------------------------------------5  7 Got questions?  Get answers over the phone at Keen.com.i Up to 100 minutes free!  http://www.keen.com*   ------------------------------  % Date: Tue, 18 Jul 2000 02:56:21 -0700d4 From: mapryan <mike.ryanNOmiSPAM@redmar.com.invalid>  Subject: Unable to see UCX proxy9 Message-ID: <15f20151.8a46e90a@usw-ex0106-045.remarq.com>   = Sorry for posting this again, but I seemed to get tucked away < under another issue as we had almost the same problem name !   Anyway, here we go again.....d   Hi All,e  > Got a problem with UCX running in a clustered environment, and? I've forgotten the command I need as I iuse it so infrequently.o% (Yes, I WILL document it this time !)*  ? Anyway, create a new proxy for rsh in the UCX cluster database.-; Works fine, no problem. However, when trying to use the new ; proxy on the other cluster members, they all go "Huh ?!?!".t  > So, try to define the new proxy on them too, but it sez "Nope, that'd be a duplicate!".  : So, I obviously need to reload the permanent database into- volatile memory. What ucx command does this ?     Thanks in advance for your help!   Cheers   Mike  @ Please excuse the message below, automatically added by remarq !      ; -----------------------------------------------------------o  7 Got questions?  Get answers over the phone at Keen.com.  Up to 100 minutes free!f http://www.keen.comn   ------------------------------  % Date: Tue, 18 Jul 2000 09:08:39 +0200i' From: vw <Tissages.Denantes@wanadoo.fr> * Subject: Using TPCIP printers with JETFORM* Message-ID: <39740277.CC3991BB@wanadoo.fr>   Hello,  H We are using JETFORM on a NT server to print font pages with spool files* which come from a VAX running OpenVMS 7.1.  - We did use a TCPIP printer queue on the VAX :.   JETFORM|jetform:\n/         :lf=/SYS$SPECIFIC/UCX_LPD/JETFORM.LOG:\h         :lp=JETFORM:\          :rm=JETFORM:\          :rp=JETFORM:\ *         :sd=/SYS$SPECIFIC/UCX_LPD/JETFORM:  1 The JETFORM host id defined on the UCX databases.w  F All the files printed on the queue JETFORM don't keep the same format.@ The record with more than 75 caracters are cutted as following : File to be sent : d AAAAAAAAAABBBBBBBBBBCCCCCCCCCCDDDDDDDDDDEEEEEEEEEEFFFFFFFFFFGGGGGGGGGGHHHHHHHHHHIIIIIIIIIIJJJJJJJJJJ   Result :  R AAAAAAAAAABBBBBBBBBBCCCCCCCCCCDDDDDDDDDDEEEEEEEEEEFFFFFFFFFFGGGGGGGGGGHHHHHHHHHHII   IIIIIIIIJJJJJJJJJJ   Command used :   PRINT/QUE=JETFORM TEST.LIS   $ sh que jetform/fulln= Server queue JETFORM, idle, on DENANT::, mounted form DEFAULTs?   /BASE_PRIORITY=4 /DEFAULT=(FEED,FORM=DEFAULT) /OWNER=[SYSTEM]e6   /PROCESSOR=UCX$LPD_SMB /PROTECTION=(S:M,O:D,G:R,W:S)   $ sh que/form default /fullo9 Form name                            Number   Descriptionl9 ---------                            ------   -----------lD DEFAULT                                   0   System-defined default)     /LENGTH=255 /STOCK=DEFAULT /WIDTH=255a     If someone can help me ???     Regards    Vincent Wierzbicki   ------------------------------  % Date: Tue, 18 Jul 2000 18:29:39 +0200s7 From: Vincent Wierzbicki <tissages.denantes@wanadoo.fr>e. Subject: Re: Using TPCIP printers with JETFORM* Message-ID: <397485F3.4B18CF95@wanadoo.fr>   Hi all,r  g The problem was solved by adding a new key on the local machine which provide the TCPIP printer servicep On the REGEDIT Chose HKEY_LOCAL_MACHINE                 SYSTEM%                     CurrentControlSetw                          Services"                             LPDSVCQ Then you have to add a new DWORD Key named SimulatePassThrough with the value '1's Save  Close the TCPIP printing service Start it     Easy to find???t   Vincenti      	 vw wrote:s   > Hello, > J > We are using JETFORM on a NT server to print font pages with spool files, > which come from a VAX running OpenVMS 7.1. >E/ > We did use a TCPIP printer queue on the VAX :. >c > JETFORM|jetform:\e1 >         :lf=/SYS$SPECIFIC/UCX_LPD/JETFORM.LOG:\s >         :lp=JETFORM:\2 >         :rm=JETFORM:\  >         :rp=JETFORM:\ , >         :sd=/SYS$SPECIFIC/UCX_LPD/JETFORM: >s3 > The JETFORM host id defined on the UCX databases.  >aH > All the files printed on the queue JETFORM don't keep the same format.B > The record with more than 75 caracters are cutted as following : > File to be sent : f > AAAAAAAAAABBBBBBBBBBCCCCCCCCCCDDDDDDDDDDEEEEEEEEEEFFFFFFFFFFGGGGGGGGGGHHHHHHHHHHIIIIIIIIIIJJJJJJJJJJ >w
 > Result : > T > AAAAAAAAAABBBBBBBBBBCCCCCCCCCCDDDDDDDDDDEEEEEEEEEEFFFFFFFFFFGGGGGGGGGGHHHHHHHHHHII >y > IIIIIIIIJJJJJJJJJJ >o > Command used : >c > PRINT/QUE=JETFORM TEST.LIS >  > $ sh que jetform/full6? > Server queue JETFORM, idle, on DENANT::, mounted form DEFAULTiA >   /BASE_PRIORITY=4 /DEFAULT=(FEED,FORM=DEFAULT) /OWNER=[SYSTEM] 8 >   /PROCESSOR=UCX$LPD_SMB /PROTECTION=(S:M,O:D,G:R,W:S) >t > $ sh que/form default /fullr; > Form name                            Number   Descriptiong; > ---------                            ------   ----------- F > DEFAULT                                   0   System-defined default+ >     /LENGTH=255 /STOCK=DEFAULT /WIDTH=255i >n > If someone can help me ??? > 	 > Regardsu >s > Vincent Wierzbicki   ------------------------------  # Date: Tue, 18 Jul 2000 09:00:12 GMTs( From: Terry Kennedy <terry@gate.tmk.com> Subject: Re: VMS fortunes?' Message-ID: <FxvyCC.GF1@spcuna.spc.edu>n   Dan <dan@vrx.net> writes:nH > I remember many moons ago, (in university) when logging in, we used toD > get a unix style "fortunes" (message of the day), one of those odd > random sayings.- >-G > I will likely assume this was a sysadmin add-on, and not something in- > VMS that is inherent.-E > Do I have to cobble my own together or is there something out thereT > (maybe a stupid question)?  *   Take a look at ftp://ftp.spc.edu/cookie/  - 	Terry Kennedy             http://www.tmk.comm5         terry@tmk.com             Jersey City, NJ USAB   ------------------------------  # Date: Tue, 18 Jul 2000 16:02:59 GMT- From: gdemont@my-deja.com- Subject: Re: VMS fortunes?) Message-ID: <8l1v35$svm$1@nnrp1.deja.com>-   Ellis E Hardin: C > So unless you have access to a DEC Ada compiler also, you're SOL.m  < If it is on an Alpha (OpenVMS V7.1-2) you can download GNAT,A Ada 95, that has an excellent upward compatibility with DEC Ada -i& in addition to be fully ISO compliant.  ' FTP: ftp://cs.nyu.edu/pub/gnat/openvms/t   HTH.6 ______________________________________________________6 Gautier  --  http://members.xoom.com/gdemont/gsoft.htm      & Sent via Deja.com http://www.deja.com/ Before you buy.e   ------------------------------  % Date: Tue, 18 Jul 2000 11:18:58 -0400o- From: Jonathan Boswell <jsb@ost.cdrh.fda.gov>  Subject: Re: VMS fortunes?0 Message-ID: <39747562.AF95ACD8@ost.cdrh.fda.gov>  
 Dan wrote:E > Do I have to cobble my own together or is there something out thereo > (maybe a stupid question)?  N There was a remarkably small completely self-contained VAX executable that didM this, but after a few calls it started repeating.  Therefore, many many yearsoO ago, I took a text database from MIT and massaged it into a HELP text library. nO Then I wrote a DCL procedure that used the random number generator from the VMSeJ FAQ and voila: instant fortune.  My database currently contains 500 famousN quotes, clever maxims, silly fortunes, and quite a few offensive remarks.  Let9 me know if you are interested and I'll make it available.    ------------------------------  % Date: Tue, 18 Jul 2000 03:00:09 -0400-2 From: rdeininger@mindspring.com (Robert Deininger)  Subject: Re: VMS Pascal questionL Message-ID: <rdeininger-1807000300100001@user-2iveage.dialup.mindspring.com>  D In article <8kvbd6$1g7r$1@info.cs.uofs.edu>, bill@cs.uofs.edu wrote:  K > In article <418E68E524A8D311ACCE00508B78866A7680C1@exchange.t-netix.com>,y2 >  Lorin Ricker <Lorin.Ricker@t-netix.com> writes: > |>H > |> Actually, as I recall, Don Knuth wrote original versions of TeX *in
 > |> Pascal*, L > |> with full intentions of multi-platform portability... with that kind ofK > |> practical endorsement from one of our profession's "grand wizards", ito? > |> really says something for Pascal and data structuring, no?o >  > No, not really.e > B > Actually, I think all it really shows is the language du jour at@ > that time.  A few years earlier and it would have been PL/I.    H I think I recall reading a comment from Knuth to the effect that "PascalF is everyone's second-favorite language".  It was powerful enough to be practical for TeX, and far more widely implemented than any other practical alternative.  PL/I was not so widespread, and often appeared as subsets of the full language.  Fortran was universal, can Cobol almost universal, butej maybe not so suitable for TeX.  (Though SNOBOL was written in FORTRAN, showing that anything is possible.)  > > As for portability, look at the threads regarding VMS Pascal? > programming.  How portable are Pascal programs that use callsoB > to QIO??  And thus it is with Pascal.  The language was designedB > to teach and not to be a true functional language.  So everybodyE > added all the parts that they thought were missing.  Unfortunately,n" > they all added them differently.  A You can't say that QIO was added to VMS Pascal to paper over some!F shortcoming in the language.  Native VMS system calls were "added" to D Pascal in exactly the same way that they were added to all the otherH VMS languages.  They come for free in any language that supports the VMSF calling standard.  (And language implementations that don't follow the@ standard never really caught on in the VMS world, I wonder why.)  C If you find a Pascal program with a bunch of QIO calls, I expect itrC is really doing OS-dependent stuff.  Not doing everyday stuff in a   cantankerous, non-portable way.    Knuth, being a true wizard, carefully avoided non-standard and non-portable extensions to Pascal.  He called attention to one exception in the beginning comments in TeX, namely the default or "otherwise" alternative in case- statements.  He said it was almost universally available in compilers, but not always with the same syntax.  He found it sufficiently useful to justify the risk to portability. 7  D Time has proved that TeX is VERY portable.  And was, even before the! C translations started to appear.d     >  > bill >  > -- cL > Bill Gunshannon          |  de-moc-ra-cy (di mok' ra see) n.  Three wolvesF > bill@cs.scranton.edu     |  and a sheep voting on what's for dinner. > University of Scranton   |@ > Scranton, Pennsylvania   |         #include <std.disclaimer.h>   -- s Robert Deininger rdeininger@mindspring.com?   ------------------------------   End of INFO-VAX 2000.399 ************************ enough of a bottleneck (in most cases) to renderiF process priority almost irrelevant. Unless your system is swapping (orG even paging heavily), I'd expect client/host performance considerationslH to be largely secondary, if transer time seems to be a problem. I'd wantG to look into your network I/O related parameters and the network itselfe9 in some depth before taking a look at process priorities.n   IMHO...n   David J. Dachterat   ------------------------------   Date: 18 Jul 2000 16:58: