1 INFO-VAX	Sat, 22 Jul 2000	Volume 2000 : Issue 406       Contents:; %SYSINIT-E, Error mounting system device, status = 000008c4 ; %SYSINIT-E, Error mounting system device, status = 000008c4  Re: DEC 3000 firmware question Re: DEC 3000 firmware question' Re: determining free disk space via DCL # determining free disk space via DCL  Ed from Annapolis, MD???4 Re: I need a precise definition of "layered product"4 Re: I need a precise definition of "layered product" KA660 CPU Technical ManualP Re: question about installing decwindows modif on alphastation (233    4-233 64 P Re: question about installing decwindows modif on alphastation (233    4-233 64 P question about installing decwindows modif on alphastation (233 4-233 64 mb 4 GBP Re: question about installing decwindows modif on alphastation (233 4-233 64 mb $ Re: Removing <LF><CR> from text file$ Re: Removing <LF><CR> from text file% run java out of jar files, vs jar -xf  Undocumented commands in UCX ? Undocumented commands in UCX ? VT510 troubleshooting: ;-) Yahmail installation1 Re: [Fwd: FW: Wish List:  I/O vs. CPU Priorities]   F ----------------------------------------------------------------------  % Date: Fri, 21 Jul 2000 16:16:27 -0500 / From: "Dwight Brooks" <dbrooks@prosoftauto.com> D Subject: %SYSINIT-E, Error mounting system device, status = 000008c4: Message-ID: <8laejd$3rks$1@newssvr03-int.news.prodigy.com>  : I have a customer running VMS 7.2 on a VAXstation 4000-90.H He is trying to make (copy of) a bootable disk to send me to look at his system. G He is using Standalone backup to copy the disk and it boots fine on his  system. 1 The disk is a StorageWorks "brick" RZ29L (4.3Gb).   J I have a VAX 4000-105A with an HSD10A controller in a StorageWorks shelve.< When I try to boot the disk, I get to the normal VMS banner. Then get DECnet loaded....$ Then I get the aforementioned error.  D I can run SYSBOOT, etc but don't seen anything obvious in the SYSGEN parameters. F I also have a VAX 4000-200 with an HSD10A controller in a StorageWorks shelve! and it does the exact same thing.   I Can anyone out there tell me what we're doing wrong or how to resolve it?    Thanks.  Dwight   ------------------------------  % Date: Fri, 21 Jul 2000 22:10:57 -0400 2 From: "Richard B. Gilbert" <DRAGON@compuserve.com>D Subject: %SYSINIT-E, Error mounting system device, status = 000008c47 Message-ID: <200007212211_MC2-AD22-4CFB@compuserve.com>   D         000008c4 translates as SYSTEM-F-FILESTRUCT, unsupported file structure level.  D         Is your customer using /IMAGE and /NOALIAS to do his backup?  H         What happens when you boot from your own system disk and issue a3 mount command for his; e.g.  MOUNT /OVER=3DID DIA3:   H         Once upon a time, the only possibilities for "structure level" =   were ODS-1 and ODS-2. D I don't think that a VMS system disk can be an ODS-1 disk; that's anJ antique format, supported for compatability with PDP11 systems.  I believ= e ' that ODS-5 is supported only on Alphas.   J         You may have to mount the disk /FOREIGN and use the DUMP command = to examine G the disk.   Each file header in INDEXF.SYS contains, in its seventh and J eighth bytes, the field called FH2BW_STRUCLEV.  The high order byte of th= isC word contains the structure level.  The low order byte contains the ) Files-11 version used to create the file.   H         Get a copy of "VMS File System Internals" by Kirby McCoy, put on* your Deerstalker hat, and start detecting.  ' Message text written by "Dwight Brooks" : > have a customer running VMS 7.2 on a VAXstation 4000-90.H He is trying to make (copy of) a bootable disk to send me to look at his system. G He is using Standalone backup to copy the disk and it boots fine on his  system. 1 The disk is a StorageWorks "brick" RZ29L (4.3Gb).   J I have a VAX 4000-105A with an HSD10A controller in a StorageWorks shelve= . < When I try to boot the disk, I get to the normal VMS banner. Then get DECnet loaded....$ Then I get the aforementioned error.  D I can run SYSBOOT, etc but don't seen anything obvious in the SYSGEN parameters. F I also have a VAX 4000-200 with an HSD10A controller in a StorageWorks shelve! and it does the exact same thing.   J Can anyone out there tell me what we're doing wrong or how to resolve it?= <    ------------------------------  % Date: Fri, 21 Jul 2000 21:08:56 +0200 + From: Arne Bergseth <Arne.Bergseth@dnv.com> ' Subject: Re: DEC 3000 firmware question ' Message-ID: <39789FC8.4C9769EA@dnv.com>    Nick Nelson wrote:  K > I am trying to upgrade OpenVMS from V1.0 (!) to 7.1 on a DEC 3000-400 and K > the install dies due to too low a PALcode level.  Attempts to upgrade the J > firmware from the current PALcode value of 5.39 to that contained in theD > UPDATE-V39 CDROM with the 7.1 distribution die without finding theK > secondary boot file.  This machine has not been touched since purchase in 
 > ~1993... >   F A long time ago there was a problem reported here on comp.os.vms about' firmware update on DEC 3000 model 400 . ? It was a PROM upgrade needed before performing firmware update!   If the console says     KN15-BA .....-sV2.1-..... A  then the hardware is OK, just continue with the firmware update.      KN15-BA ..... -sV1.0-.....F  then you will need a hardware change, the part number is 23-333E7-00,?  it was still possible to get it from Compaq earlier this year.   H I have not noticed any requirement to the version of firmware to run theG firmware update. The firmware CD contains some documentation, and there $ is some documentation on the web at:; ftp://ftp.digital.com/pub/Digital/Alpha/firmware/index.html < but it is mostly about more recent versions of the firmware.  4 I have been able to locate a Firmware Update V2.8 CD  D > My question, apologies if this is the wrong group, is; can the DECG > 3000-400 at this old level be upgraded directly to a current firmware L > version or should I be trying some intermediate level first?  (The upgrade > jumper has been moved...)   9 I have earlier this year upgraded a DEC 3000 model 400 to ; Firmware Update V5.4 without problem, but it was already at # VMS PAL X5.48      to VMS PAL V5.56 ) SRM console V3.3      to SRM console V7.0    Regards,
 Arne Bergseth    ------------------------------  # Date: Fri, 21 Jul 2000 21:09:53 GMT ( From: Terry Kennedy <terry@gate.tmk.com>' Subject: Re: DEC 3000 firmware question ' Message-ID: <Fy2G4I.L5F@spcuna.spc.edu>   - Arne Bergseth <Arne.Bergseth@dnv.com> writes: H >  then you will need a hardware change, the part number is 23-333E7-00,A >  it was still possible to get it from Compaq earlier this year.   ,   Still available, 5 day lead time, cost $2.  - 	Terry Kennedy             http://www.tmk.com 5         terry@tmk.com             Jersey City, NJ USA    ------------------------------  # Date: Fri, 21 Jul 2000 22:57:19 GMT G From: "Stephen Eickhoff (remove the - to reply)" <operagost@e-mail.com> 0 Subject: Re: determining free disk space via DCL* Message-ID: <3978D54C.784C8690@e-mail.com>   Hoff Hoffman wrote:  > I > In article <8l9jje$b9p$1@nnrp1.deja.com>, operagost@my-deja.com writes: I > :Is there a lexical or something that I can use to determine free space 
 > :on a disk?  > C >   Maybe some combination of the system time and the following two  >   DCL lexical functions: > ; >     $ freeblocks = f$getdvi("sys$sysdevice","freeblocks")  > 7 >     $ maxblock = f$getdvi("sys$sysdevice","maxblock")  > G >   would help figure out if/when you are rapidly approaching a problem = >   with your available storage on the specified disk device.  > C >   Seriously consider an upgrade to your OpenVMS release, as well. > >   (OpenVMS VAX V5.5-2 was released back in 1992, after all.)   M Trust me, I would but it's like pulling teeth to get any down time to do this J stuff, even though it's vital. Also, we would be running into Y2K problemsK since the highest VMS version compatible with our version of Oracle is 6.2. K I'm sure we'd be fine after applying the patches, but I'm afraid management L will balk. I wouldn't expect them to understand the difference between an OS
 and SQL code.    Thanks!    --  " ----------------------------------          Stephen Eickhoff            Havertown, PA " ----------------------------------   ------------------------------  % Date: Fri, 21 Jul 2000 22:10:55 -0400 2 From: "Richard B. Gilbert" <DRAGON@compuserve.com>, Subject: determining free disk space via DCL7 Message-ID: <200007212211_MC2-AD22-4CFA@compuserve.com>   D         F$GETDVI(DISK, "FREEBLOCKS") will give you the free space in) blocks.  Divide by 2048 to get megabytes.   6 Message text written by INTERNET:operagost@my-deja.comG >Is there a lexical or something that I can use to determine free space F on a disk? The problem is that, using VMS 5.5-2 we're limited to ~8 GBH disks. What we're doing is storing Oracle archive logs on a raid-5, thenG moving the older ones to another disk with a daily batch file. However, @ sometimes database activity increases and the logs overflow diskF capacity. I'd like to optimize the use of this array and avoid lockingD up the archiver by moving files to a second, non-redundant disk only when necessary.  <    ------------------------------   Date: 22 Jul 2000 02:27:07 GMT& From: Ellis E Hardin <eeh01@gnofn.org>! Subject: Ed from Annapolis, MD??? + Message-ID: <8lb0pr$87d$1@junkie.gnofn.org>   > 	Well, it seems everyone has stopped reading the thread that IH originally posted this message to.  See the message below.  I'm going toH be going out of town on business Sunday, and won't be back until Friday,? the 28th.  I may not be able to read my email during that time.    !Subject: Re: VMS fortunes?  !Date: 20 Jul 2000 08:33:45 GMT  ! D !	Oops.  Somebody named Ed sent me an email requesting my Ada sourceJ !code for the fortune cookie program.  I replied to him saying I'd send itG !after I got home and uploaded the code.  Then I promptly took my brain J !out of gear and deleted the message, "since I already replied to it," and7 !now I don't have an email address to send the code to. A !	Ed, could you email me again, so I know where to send the code?    --  # -- Ellis Hardin,  <eeh01@gnofn.org>    ------------------------------   Date: 21 Jul 2000 15:15:52 CDT= From: wayne@tachysoft.xxx.293778.killspam.0223 (Wayne Sewell) = Subject: Re: I need a precise definition of "layered product" . Message-ID: <bWDrOqScB+CP@tachxxsoftxxconsult>  ] In article <01JS1IKYMJN60021SA@tgmail.tg.nsw.gov.au>, paddy.o'brien@zzz.tg.nsw.gov.au writes:  > John Nixon wrote:  > M >>I had thought this was an easy question, but I see from the other responses  > thatK >>I must have been naive.   I would have thought that a layered product was  > any I >>product that is "layered" on top of the OS.  If you install the OS, and 
 > there isK > something you need that is not there, you install a "layered" product.  I  > have dealtJ >>with layered products with various manufacturers that have nothing to do >>with DECpaq. > Q > That is indeed my perception.  I think of my compilers as "layered products".   I > Since I work in a commercial environment, I am not sure what DECpaq is.  > 7 > Discussion below is ellided regarding SCAN and LATeX.  > Q > SCAN is no longer proprietary (as also Bliss), Digital gave these to the world  ( > on the freeware CD's including source. > S > LATeX has never been proprietary,  To my knowledge Leslie Lamport gave it to the  S > world as did Knuth with his original TeX.  LL and DK maintain a copyright on the  M > source, I believe, along with WEB and WEAVE as discussed in another thread.   F In Knuth's case, the reason for this was to control the quality of theO implementations of TeX and Metafont.  Anybody is allowed to make changes to TeX J and/or to incorporate the code of TeX into commercial products.   However,M Knuth didn't want some incompetent bozo modifying it to a nonfunctional state O (probably to make it compatible with other nonfunctional billybox software) and K calling this mess TeX.  You are not allowed to call your implementation TeX M unless it is guaranteed to be compatible with all other TeX implementations.  N Knuth even provided a test suite with the main distribution, known as the TRIPK test.  If, and only if, your version of TeX can pass the TRIP test, you are M allowed to use TeX in the product name (TurboTeX, SuperTeX, WhoopeeTeX, Joe's F Tex, WhateverTeX).  The corresponding test suite for Metafont is TRAP.    L An actual case of an embedded TeX implementation is the former VAX Document,M now known as DEC Document and owned by Touch Technologies.  There's no way to L tell from the radically different source language (SDML) and user interface,J but those in the know have disclosed that a modified TeX lives deep in theM product.  Of course, there's no way that Document could pass the TRIP test if O it doesn't even use TeX as a source language, but it doesn't matter because the $ product has a different name anyway.   --  O =============================================================================== M Wayne Sewell, Tachyon Software Consulting  (281)812-0738  wayne@tachysoft.xxx : http://www.tachysoft.xxx/www/tachyon.html and wayne.html  K change .xxx to .com in addresses above, assuming you are not a spambot  :-) O =============================================================================== O Otter, on dining with Bluto:"It's perfectly safe if you keep your arms and legs  			away from his mouth."   ------------------------------  % Date: Fri, 21 Jul 2000 17:20:50 -0400 - From: JF Mezei <jfmezei.spamnot@videotron.ca> = Subject: Re: I need a precise definition of "layered product" + Message-ID: <3978BEA4.23820B6@videotron.ca>    Wayne Sewell wrote: N > An actual case of an embedded TeX implementation is the former VAX Document,O > now known as DEC Document and owned by Touch Technologies.  There's no way to N > tell from the radically different source language (SDML) and user interface,L > but those in the know have disclosed that a modified TeX lives deep in the
 > product.  M TEX files are generated in intermediate steps of VAX DOCUMENT processing, and M it has the ability to read TEX files as imput, and keep generated (temporary) 
 TEX files.   ------------------------------   Date: 22 Jul 2000 01:08:31 GMT$ From: allensmidt@cs.com (AllenSmidt)# Subject: KA660 CPU Technical Manual > Message-ID: <20000721210831.07836.00000080@ng-da1.news.cs.com>  N I am looking for a KA660 CPU Module Technical Manual.  If any one has one they0 would be willing to give up, please let me know.  	 --- Allen    ------------------------------  % Date: Fri, 21 Jul 2000 20:02:02 -0500 7 From: "David J. Dachtera" <djesys.nospam@earthlink.net> Y Subject: Re: question about installing decwindows modif on alphastation (233    4-233 64  - Message-ID: <3978F28A.25C6B950@earthlink.net>    Gigglegs wrote:  > Q >  hi all , i was reading DECwindows Motif Version 1.2-5 for OpenVMS Installation N > Guide . it said i would  first have register a License Product AuthorizationO > Key (License PAK) using the License Management Facility (LMF) . the problem i M > am having is i bought my computer used and i also used compaq hobbyst cd to  > loadN > ovms 7.1 on my system.. how do i go about getting a licence pak for motif  ?' > any help would be appreciated. thanks  >  > email:gigglegs@aol.com  H Go back to http://www.montagar.com/hobbyist/ and sign up for the layered products licenses.   --   David J. Dachtera  dba DJE Systems  http://www.djesys.com/  : Unofficial Affordable OpenVMS Home Page and Message Board: http://www.djesys.com/vms/soho/    ------------------------------  % Date: Fri, 21 Jul 2000 20:02:38 -0500 7 From: "David J. Dachtera" <djesys.nospam@earthlink.net> Y Subject: Re: question about installing decwindows modif on alphastation (233    4-233 64  - Message-ID: <3978F2AE.FF0021D7@earthlink.net>    Gigglegs wrote:  > Q >  hi all , i was reading DECwindows Motif Version 1.2-5 for OpenVMS Installation N > Guide . it said i would  first have register a License Product AuthorizationO > Key (License PAK) using the License Management Facility (LMF) . the problem i M > am having is i bought my computer used and i also used compaq hobbyst cd to  > loadN > ovms 7.1 on my system.. how do i go about getting a licence pak for motif  ?' > any help would be appreciated. thanks  >  > email:gigglegs@aol.com  H Go back to http://www.montagar.com/hobbyist/ and sign up for the layered products licenses.   -- r David J. Dachterae dba DJE Systems  http://www.djesys.com/  : Unofficial Affordable OpenVMS Home Page and Message Board: http://www.djesys.com/vms/soho/e   ------------------------------   Date: 22 Jul 2000 00:56:12 GMT! From: gigglegs@aol.com (Gigglegs)sY Subject: question about installing decwindows modif on alphastation (233 4-233 64 mb 4 GBt: Message-ID: <20000721205612.15304.00001009@ng-ca1.aol.com>  O  hi all , i was reading DECwindows Motif Version 1.2-5 for OpenVMS InstallationBL Guide . it said i would  first have register a License Product AuthorizationM Key (License PAK) using the License Management Facility (LMF) . the problem ieK am having is i bought my computer used and i also used compaq hobbyst cd too load dL ovms 7.1 on my system.. how do i go about getting a licence pak for motif  ?% any help would be appreciated. thankss   email:gigglegs@aol.com   ------------------------------  # Date: Sat, 22 Jul 2000 01:18:30 GMT0/ From: StevenU@POBoxes.com (Steven P. Underwood)sY Subject: Re: question about installing decwindows modif on alphastation (233 4-233 64 mb e2 Message-ID: <3978f60c.693016124@news.telocity.com>  ? On 22 Jul 2000 00:56:12 GMT, gigglegs@aol.com (Gigglegs) wrote:   P > hi all , i was reading DECwindows Motif Version 1.2-5 for OpenVMS InstallationM >Guide . it said i would  first have register a License Product AuthorizationmN >Key (License PAK) using the License Management Facility (LMF) . the problem iL >am having is i bought my computer used and i also used compaq hobbyst cd to >load M >ovms 7.1 on my system.. how do i go about getting a licence pak for motif  ?e& >any help would be appreciated. thanks >t >email:gigglegs@aol.como  D Go to the same place you got your OVMS Hobby license and request theD layered products license.  Just about anything you will ever need is	 in there.    Stevet   ------------------------------  % Date: Fri, 21 Jul 2000 14:44:21 -0400w- From: JF Mezei <jfmezei.spamnot@videotron.ca> - Subject: Re: Removing <LF><CR> from text filed, Message-ID: <39789A01.3E0ACB72@videotron.ca>   Larry Kilgallen wrote: > [ > In article <8l8t1j$agm$1@buty.wanadoo.nl>, "Bart Zorn" <B.Zorn@TrueBit.nospam.nl> writes: C > > Yes, but unfortunately, "real" keyboards don't have an ESC key!t > D > They do once you change the keyboard setup (DECterm settings for a > workstation).   K However, bear in mind that te ability to generate a single escape characteroK from the keyboard does not garantee it will work since the SYS$QIO (or SMG) J calls will return with an inclomplete escape sequence error message to the' application if you type just an escape.O  K The escape character, in an editor must be entered in its numeric form (EDTsN has an esay keyboard way to do this, for TPU, you need to know TPU programming  to enter it).   ------------------------------    Date: 21 Jul 2000 16:16:44 -05009 From: Kilgallen@eisner.decus.org.nospam (Larry Kilgallen)n- Subject: Re: Removing <LF><CR> from text fileE+ Message-ID: <Qhls1jyWI8bN@eisner.decus.org>a  \ In article <39789A01.3E0ACB72@videotron.ca>, JF Mezei <jfmezei.spamnot@videotron.ca> writes: > Larry Kilgallen wrote: >>  \ >> In article <8l8t1j$agm$1@buty.wanadoo.nl>, "Bart Zorn" <B.Zorn@TrueBit.nospam.nl> writes:D >> > Yes, but unfortunately, "real" keyboards don't have an ESC key! >>  E >> They do once you change the keyboard setup (DECterm settings for a  >> workstation). > M > However, bear in mind that te ability to generate a single escape character M > from the keyboard does not garantee it will work since the SYS$QIO (or SMG) L > calls will return with an inclomplete escape sequence error message to the) > application if you type just an escape.o  A TECO (which is the aegis under which I mentioned Escape) sets thet terminal mode correctly.   ------------------------------   Date: 21 Jul 2000 19:10:55 GMT2 From: mathog@seqaxp.bio.caltech.edu (David Mathog). Subject: run java out of jar files, vs jar -xf, Message-ID: <8la77v$c0m@gap.cco.caltech.edu>  G Is there a way to run programs on VMS using the "java" command without -; first having to jar -xf all the jar files that comprise it?m   Thanks,s   David Mathog mathog@seqaxp.bio.caltech.edu3? Manager, sequence analysis facility, biology division, Caltech     ------------------------------  % Date: Sat, 22 Jul 2000 01:18:09 +0200.. From: "Marc Van Dyck" <marc.vandyck@skynet.be>' Subject: Undocumented commands in UCX ? * Message-ID: <8lalh5$993$1@news0.skynet.be>   Hello,  L I have been looking in the code of UCX$CONFIG.COM lately, anf found a coupleL of commands (generate, check, ...) that are not documented. Does anyone haveK some sort of documentation about those commands ? Specially, I'm interestedeJ about the /COMMON qualifier for the commands SET CONFIG ENABLE [NO]SERVICE7 and SHOW CONFIG ENABLE SERVICE. What does it do, etc...r  J While I'm at it, does any one know why the UCX commands have such an awfulH and inconsistent syntax ? I was hoping to have all that straightened outH with V5 but, much to my disappointment, nothing there has changed a lot.   TIA,   Marc.a   ------------------------------  % Date: Fri, 21 Jul 2000 22:24:11 -0400t2 From: "Richard B. Gilbert" <DRAGON@compuserve.com>' Subject: Undocumented commands in UCX ?c7 Message-ID: <200007212224_MC2-AD26-817C@compuserve.com>t  J         Can you say "Unix"?   The original UCX was a port of the Berkeley=  G code.  It was a late port, the other vendors; TGV, TWG, etc. had a headb start of several years.w  J         TCPIP services V5.0 is a port of the Digital Unix code.  I've hea= rdG both that the whole thing is DU and that "major parts" are DU.  I thinkfJ that the "major parts" is closer to the truth; the user interface obvious= ly: makes a few concessions to VMS and compatibility with UCX>  J         Anyway, what did you expect from a background like that?  Conside= r 4 yourself lucky if it works at all!!!!  (5.0 didn't!)    ' Message text written by "Marc Van Dyck" J >While I'm at it, does any one know why the UCX commands have such an awf= ulH and inconsistent syntax ? I was hoping to have all that straightened outJ with V5 but, much to my disappointment, nothing there has changed a lot.<=   ------------------------------  % Date: Fri, 21 Jul 2000 15:58:43 -0500a* From: WILLIAM WEBB <WWEBB1@email.usps.gov># Subject: VT510 troubleshooting: ;-)t- Message-ID: <0033000001185299000002L092*@MHS>i   =0A55      One of our Front-line support folks entered thish2      comment into our problem-management software.  )      I just had to share it with y'all...-    /      Friday, July 21, 2000 3:02:12 PM  KERSTESLr-      July 21, 2000 3:01:43 PM        KERSTESL<       Organization Group: RAVAXFS  *      VT510 HAD FLAMES COMING OUT THE BACK.'      NO FURTHER TROUBLESHOOTING NEEDED.o        ----------------       WWWebb=   ------------------------------  % Date: Fri, 21 Jul 2000 19:16:47 -0700e3 From: David Miller <dmiller@cslab.bemidji.msus.edu>p Subject: Yahmail installationaF Message-ID: <4.3.2.7.2.20000721190926.00aa9390@otter.bemidji.msus.edu>   YahMAIL experts.      : I'm stuck.  I've got the yahmail login prompt but then get  (          File _protected_ against access  - and don't know where to turn.  Configuration:f  "          OSU HTTP 3.2, VMS/VAX 7.1  ; One basic question is what to put in level2.prot.  I put ine   <realm> yahMAILi @cswww.bemidji.msus.edu *o @* *  5 but that's just a guess.  What else do I have to fix?e  
 Thanks, dave.9       >There are the basic steps:l >uM >1. Download yahMAIL from http://wasd.vsm.com.au/wasd/  (notice vsm, not vms)i8 >into www_root:[script_code]. It is named yahmail130.zip >  >2. $ unzip "-V" yahmail130.zipe >t >3. $ cd yahmail >l >4. $ @build_yahmail mime links : >There are other options as well.  This is the one I used. >l >5. $ @install install osu >dD >6. $ @www_root:[system]yahmail_startup www.  Also add this line to  >systartup_vms.- >-D >7. $ edt yahmail$config.  Add one line following the [private] line >         *\*\*-K >which permits all users to access their mail.  Of course if DISMAIL, they 0 >can't >I suppose.m >R9 >8. $ edt http_paths.conf (wherever it is).  Add one linei: >         protect /htbin/yahmail/~* www_system:level2.prot >2 >9. $ wwwcp restart 8 >to force HTTPD to recognize the http_paths.conf update. >e >10. To use it,s? >         http://cswww.bemidji.msus.edu/htbin/yahmail/~usernameN" >and you should be a login dialog.   ------------------------------  % Date: Fri, 21 Jul 2000 19:51:31 -0500s7 From: "David J. Dachtera" <djesys.nospam@earthlink.net>~: Subject: Re: [Fwd: FW: Wish List:  I/O vs. CPU Priorities]- Message-ID: <3978F013.F976E9B3@earthlink.net>o   "Richard D. Piccard" wrote:l > F > Just as we can specify a maximum amount of outstanding buffer space,G > might we, as system managers, be able to specify a maximum direct (orgJ > buffered) I/O request RATE, either for a username, for a batch queue, orJ > by set process/whatever?  I have situations where I don't want to stop aJ > job cold, but I also don't want to let it soak up the bandwidth it would; > otherwise use, in order to have some left for the others.l   AMEN TO THAT, BRO!   Hoff (or whoever),  G Can we get some tweaks for this in some not-too-distant-future release?    > Larry Kilgallen wrote: > >nk > > In article <3977BABA.C068C64F@earthlink.net>, "David J. Dachtera" <djesys.nospam@earthlink.net> writes:a > > > Larry Kilgallen wrote: > >nD > > >> I don't understand the tentative nature of these discussions. > > >>K > > >> As I read EXE_STD$INSERT_IRP from module SYSQIOREQ it orders entriesrN > > >> according to IRP$B_PRI.  Is this somehow disabled on contemporary VMS ? > > >pK > > > I don't know that it's disabled, but it's far less effective than onep > > > typically expects. > >hH > > And is this with a disk/controller that accepts multiple outstandingI > > IO requests at a time ?  "Smart" hardware can conspire with user coden > > to defeat VMS priority.- -- - David J. Dachteral dba DJE SystemsT http://www.djesys.com/  : Unofficial Affordable OpenVMS Home Page and Message Board: http://www.djesys.com/vms/soho/p   ------------------------------   End of INFO-VAX 2000.406 ************************