1 INFO-VAX	Wed, 26 Jul 2000	Volume 2000 : Issue 415       Contents:? Re: %SYSINIT-E, Error mounting system device, status = 000008c4 8 Availabilty of a UCX Service & Alias connections over IP Re: AW: PGPi and OpenVMS BACKUP COMMAND RE: BACKUP COMMAND RE: BACKUP COMMAND RE: BACKUP COMMAND RE: BACKUP COMMAND Re: BACKUP COMMAND RE: BACKUP COMMAND Re: BACKUP COMMAND CETS2000 and Purchase OrdersG Re: CETS2000 Content (was Re: CETS2000 Registration is open and working - Re: CETS2000 Registration is open and working - Re: CETS2000 Registration is open and working - Re: CETS2000 Registration is open and working - Re: CETS2000 Registration is open and working - Re: CETS2000 Registration is open and working - Re: CETS2000 Registration is open and working 4 Re: got to remember to STOP trying to use OpenVMS... Ground Hog Day Re: GS140 write I/O wall Re: GS140 write I/O wall Re: GS140 write I/O wall6 Re: help...on decmotif windows, also on mounting cdrom6 RE: help...on decmotif windows, also on mounting cdrom6 Re: help...on decmotif windows, also on mounting cdrom% Interbase 6.0 released as Open Source . Re: Limit a UIC group access to a number of 50 Memory & CPU Support RE: Memory & CPU Support Re: Memory & CPU Support Re: Memory & CPU Support Re: Memory & CPU Support Re: Memory & CPU Support Microvax 3100-10 and 20  $991 Re: Mlucas performance probelm - need expert help  Re: OpenVMS documentation " Re: OpenVMS Registry Configuration" Re: OpenVMS Registry Configuration+ PDF viewers, was: Re: CETS2000 Registration / Re: PDF viewers, was: Re: CETS2000 Registration  Re: Plain Kermit?  printer problem (lpq -Pprinter) : Re: Programming examples for the Generic SCSI Class driver Re: Shareable images RE: Shareable images RE: Shareable images RE: Shareable images Spare BC09J? Re: Spare BC09J?8 RE: Vacancy exists : VMS Junior Sys Admin, Bracknell, UK8 Re: Vacancy exists : VMS Junior Sys Admin, Bracknell, UK Re: VMS mail -> Unix mail  Re: VMS mail -> Unix mail 1 Re: Was "WAY OFF TOPIC:" Now a 1000 USD challenge 1 Re: Was "WAY OFF TOPIC:" Now a 1000 USD challenge < Re: WAY OFF TOPIC: help me with the seed of satan pseudo-O/S< Re: WAY OFF TOPIC: help me with the seed of satan pseudo-O/S< Re: WAY OFF TOPIC: help me with the seed of satan pseudo-O/S< Re: WAY OFF TOPIC: help me with the seed of satan pseudo-O/S< Re: WAY OFF TOPIC: help me with the seed of satan pseudo-O/S< Re: WAY OFF TOPIC: help me with the seed of satan pseudo-O/S< Re: WAY OFF TOPIC: help me with the seed of satan pseudo-O/SA Re: What graphics cards are supported by OpenVMS on a AlphaServer A Re: What graphics cards are supported by OpenVMS on a AlphaServer  Re: WordPerfect for OpenVMS ' Ya tengo mi correo @barcelona.com  7364   F ----------------------------------------------------------------------  # Date: Wed, 26 Jul 2000 05:51:32 GMT 8 From: Veli =?iso-8859-1?Q?K=F6rkk=F6?= <korkko@decus.fi>H Subject: Re: %SYSINIT-E, Error mounting system device, status = 000008c4( Message-ID: <397DDF2B.C8FE35CD@decus.fi>  A Since the disk is bootable on a VAXstation 4000, it is there SCSI C disk on a native SCSI bus. But on the VAX 4000-200 and VAX 4000-105 ? you have on a HSD controller. I think you cannot move disk from C native SCSI bus to HSD and expect it work. Can you connect the disk , on the native SCSI bus on you VAX 4000-105A?   _veli    Dwight Brooks wrote: > < > I have a customer running VMS 7.2 on a VAXstation 4000-90.J > He is trying to make (copy of) a bootable disk to send me to look at his	 > system. I > He is using Standalone backup to copy the disk and it boots fine on his 	 > system. 3 > The disk is a StorageWorks "brick" RZ29L (4.3Gb).  > L > I have a VAX 4000-105A with an HSD10A controller in a StorageWorks shelve.> > When I try to boot the disk, I get to the normal VMS banner. > Then get DECnet loaded....& > Then I get the aforementioned error. > F > I can run SYSBOOT, etc but don't seen anything obvious in the SYSGEN
 > parameters. H > I also have a VAX 4000-200 with an HSD10A controller in a StorageWorks > shelve# > and it does the exact same thing.  > K > Can anyone out there tell me what we're doing wrong or how to resolve it?  > 	 > Thanks.  > Dwight   ------------------------------  % Date: Mon, 24 Jul 2000 22:33:35 +0100 3 From: "Jefferson Humber" <matrix01@globalnet.co.uk> A Subject: Availabilty of a UCX Service & Alias connections over IP # Message-ID: <8licot$io1$1@gxsn.com>   C This may sound like a bizarre request, but does anybody know if the  following is possible ???   H What we need to achieve is determine whether a UCX Service (Polyserver -? Compuware Uniface) is enabled on one of our clustered nodes ???   K What we are planning to do is only have one of the two nodes in the cluster L running the open Oracle Rdb database , and have users logging into the alias  over IP through the UCX service.  K The plan is to have the Polyserver service enabled on only one of the nodes L for load balancing reasons (They only seem to log into the impersonator nodeK anyway $ UCX SHOW INTERFACE / CLUSTER ).  Does anybody know how to make the @ users attach to the other node under UCX 4.2 out of interest ???  K Is there a way for VMS to only log users into the node where the Polyserver K service running, when pointing them to the alias ???  i.e Perform some kind 0 of check on each node before logging them in ???    J Below is what we are currently running.  With Node1 being the Impersonator/ node, the users always seem to log into there ?   $ Node0 (Alias)        100.200.100.200H Node1                    100.200.100.201    (Impersonator)    Polyserver% service ENABLED    /    Database OPEN ( Node2                    100.200.100.2020 Polyserver service ENABLED    /    Database OPEN    I What we are proposing is the following;  Here users will still connect to L Node1, since it is still the impersonator, but what if it wasn't ???  Can weI reassign this somehow ???  And also can you get it to check the status of A the service, and only connect to the node where it is running ???   $ Node0 (Alias)        100.200.100.200H Node1                    100.200.100.201    (Impersonator)    Polyserver% service ENABLED    /    Database OPEN ( Node2                    100.200.100.2022 Polyserver service DISABLED   /    Database CLOSED      B If I haven't confused anybody too much, does anybody know how ????  2 Thanks in advance for anybody who can help me out,   Cheers,    Jeff   ------------------------------   Date: 25 Jul 2000 16:39:10 EST! From: byer@cartman.ourservers.net ! Subject: Re: AW: PGPi and OpenVMS 1 Message-ID: <NtrLP9mSAqAV@cartman.ourservers.net>    > 5 > PGP 2.x does not use DES.  It uses the IDEA cipher.  > D > Starting with PGP 5.x, a new encryption method, Diffe-Hillman, is ? > used.  It's incompatible with PGP 2.x, unless you license an  & > additional module to make 2.x files. > H > Source code for PGP 5.x and later is not available, so you can't just  > compile it on VMS. > H > There's an effort working on creating a PGP replacement program under < > the GNU license.  There's also an RFC for "OpenPGP".  See: >  > 	http://www.gnupg.org/  N I also heard there was a GNU PGP that does work with OpenVMS.  I haven't tried* it and I'm not sure where to even find it.   --    @  +------------------+--------------------------+---------------+@  | Robert Alan Byer | byer@mail.ourservers.net | ICQ #65926579 |@  +------------------+--------------------------+---------------+@  | Send an E-mail request to obtain a copy of my PGP key.      |@  +-------------------------------------------------------------+@  | "It is by caffeine alone I set my mind in motion.  It is by |@  |  cans of cola the thoughts aquire speed, the hands aquire   |@  |  shakes, the shakes become a warning.  It is by caffeine    |@  |  alone I set my mind in motion."                            |@  +-------------------------------------------------------------+   ------------------------------  % Date: Wed, 26 Jul 2000 10:56:54 +0100 ' From: Hitendra Patel <h.patel@rl.ac.uk>  Subject: BACKUP COMMAND ( Message-ID: <397EB5E5.4BF4E6AE@rl.ac.uk>   Hi  E I'm working on a microvax 3800 (..old), trying to restore a directory H from a dataset. Now I have no experience but is this possible to restore a directory/file?..   < Basically try to restore from  tape to  disk. I can list the> files/directories but how do I extract the directory I want...1 The name on the tape is APEX.BCK (if theis helps)    Any help will be appreciated.    Hiten Patel    ------------------------------  % Date: Wed, 26 Jul 2000 11:27:10 +0100 8 From: John Macallister <J.Macallister1@physics.ox.ac.uk> Subject: RE: BACKUP COMMAND L Message-ID: <35666012DF4CD411BE940090279FA240111E9C@ppnt41.physics.ox.ac.uk>  L You can select any files or directories you want using the /SELECT qualifier e.g.  ?  $ BACKUP/LOG  tapedrive:apex.bck/save/select=([mydir...]*.*.*)  outputdisk:[newmydir...]*.*.*   L will restore everything in the directory [mydir] and all its subdirectories.   John  B Name: John B. Macallister  E-mail: j.macallister1@physics.ox.ac.ukH Post: Nuclear and Astrophysics Laboratory, Keble Road, Oxford OX1 3RH,UKA Phone: +44-1865-273388 (direct)  273333 (reception)  273418 (Fax)      -----Original Message-----. From: Hitendra Patel [mailto:h.patel@rl.ac.uk]' Sent: Wednesday, July 26, 2000 10:57 AM  To: John Macallister Subject: BACKUP COMMAND      Hi  E I'm working on a microvax 3800 (..old), trying to restore a directory H from a dataset. Now I have no experience but is this possible to restore a directory/file?..   < Basically try to restore from  tape to  disk. I can list the> files/directories but how do I extract the directory I want...1 The name on the tape is APEX.BCK (if theis helps)    Any help will be appreciated.    Hiten Patel    ------------------------------  % Date: Wed, 26 Jul 2000 12:46:44 +0200 6 From: "Dijk, Jeroen van" <Jeroen.vandijk@getronics.nl> Subject: RE: BACKUP COMMAND M Message-ID: <2795B75EF003D311801A00A0C906B51187E3DE@cucexec.gbc.getronics.nl>   N It's not also important to know with which parameter the saveset is backupped?   -- Jeroen M.W. van Dijk  Getronics Business Continuity BV8 Error #152 - Windows not found: (C)heer (P)arty (D)ance.     -----Original Message-----? From: John Macallister [mailto:J.Macallister1@physics.ox.ac.uk] ! Sent: woensdag 26 juli 2000 12:27  To: Info-VAX@Mvb.Saic.Com  Subject: RE: BACKUP COMMAND     L You can select any files or directories you want using the /SELECT qualifier e.g.  ?  $ BACKUP/LOG  tapedrive:apex.bck/save/select=([mydir...]*.*.*)  outputdisk:[newmydir...]*.*.*   L will restore everything in the directory [mydir] and all its subdirectories.   John  B Name: John B. Macallister  E-mail: j.macallister1@physics.ox.ac.ukH Post: Nuclear and Astrophysics Laboratory, Keble Road, Oxford OX1 3RH,UKA Phone: +44-1865-273388 (direct)  273333 (reception)  273418 (Fax)      -----Original Message-----. From: Hitendra Patel [mailto:h.patel@rl.ac.uk]' Sent: Wednesday, July 26, 2000 10:57 AM  To: John Macallister Subject: BACKUP COMMAND      Hi  E I'm working on a microvax 3800 (..old), trying to restore a directory H from a dataset. Now I have no experience but is this possible to restore a directory/file?..   < Basically try to restore from  tape to  disk. I can list the> files/directories but how do I extract the directory I want...1 The name on the tape is APEX.BCK (if theis helps)    Any help will be appreciated.    Hiten Patel    ------------------------------  % Date: Wed, 26 Jul 2000 09:23:29 -0300 1 From: "Boyle, Darren" <boyledj@bankofbermuda.com>  Subject: RE: BACKUP COMMAND K Message-ID: <9F664D538536D411BD3200508B6FF01A333761@bdant027.bda.bobda.com>   @ BACKUP/SELECT=[DIRECTORY]FILE.TYPE;  my_tape_drive:APEX.BCK/SAVE( my_destination_disk:[directory]file.type - Darren   > ----------. > From: 	Hitendra Patel[SMTP:h.patel@rl.ac.uk]) > Sent: 	Wednesday, July 26, 2000 6:56 AM  > To: 	Info-VAX@Mvb.Saic.Com > Subject: 	BACKUP COMMAND >  > Hi > G > I'm working on a microvax 3800 (..old), trying to restore a directory J > from a dataset. Now I have no experience but is this possible to restore > a directory/file?..  > > > Basically try to restore from  tape to  disk. I can list the@ > files/directories but how do I extract the directory I want...3 > The name on the tape is APEX.BCK (if theis helps)  >  > Any help will be appreciated.  > 
 > Hiten Patel  >  >  >  >     F **********************************************************************C This message and any files transmitted with it are confidential and J may be privileged and/or subject to the provisions of privacy legislation.M They are intended solely for the use of the individual or entity to whom they L are addressed. If the reader of this message is not the intended recipient, B please notify the sender immediately and then delete this message.I You are notified that reliance on, disclosure of, distribution or copying  of this message is prohibited.   Bank of Bermuda F **********************************************************************   ------------------------------  % Date: Wed, 26 Jul 2000 09:25:26 -0300 1 From: "Boyle, Darren" <boyledj@bankofbermuda.com>  Subject: RE: BACKUP COMMAND K Message-ID: <9F664D538536D411BD3200508B6FF01A333762@bdant027.bda.bobda.com>   K No, what parameter ??.  I'm lost if you need more information about how the F tape was created this is shown using a BACKUP/LIST  tape:APEX.BCK/SAVE - Darren   > ----------; > From: 	Dijk, Jeroen van[SMTP:Jeroen.vandijk@getronics.nl] ) > Sent: 	Wednesday, July 26, 2000 7:46 AM  > To: 	Info-VAX@Mvb.Saic.Com > Subject: 	RE: BACKUP COMMAND > E > It's not also important to know with which parameter the saveset is  > backupped? >  > -- > Jeroen M.W. van Dijk" > Getronics Business Continuity BV: > Error #152 - Windows not found: (C)heer (P)arty (D)ance. >  >  > -----Original Message-----A > From: John Macallister [mailto:J.Macallister1@physics.ox.ac.uk] # > Sent: woensdag 26 juli 2000 12:27  > To: Info-VAX@Mvb.Saic.Com  > Subject: RE: BACKUP COMMAND  >  > D > You can select any files or directories you want using the /SELECT > qualifier  > e.g. > A >  $ BACKUP/LOG  tapedrive:apex.bck/save/select=([mydir...]*.*.*)  > outputdisk:[newmydir...]*.*.*  > > > will restore everything in the directory [mydir] and all its > subdirectories.  >  > John > D > Name: John B. Macallister  E-mail: j.macallister1@physics.ox.ac.ukJ > Post: Nuclear and Astrophysics Laboratory, Keble Road, Oxford OX1 3RH,UKC > Phone: +44-1865-273388 (direct)  273333 (reception)  273418 (Fax)  >  >  > -----Original Message-----0 > From: Hitendra Patel [mailto:h.patel@rl.ac.uk]) > Sent: Wednesday, July 26, 2000 10:57 AM  > To: John Macallister > Subject: BACKUP COMMAND  >  >  > Hi > G > I'm working on a microvax 3800 (..old), trying to restore a directory J > from a dataset. Now I have no experience but is this possible to restore > a directory/file?..  > > > Basically try to restore from  tape to  disk. I can list the@ > files/directories but how do I extract the directory I want...3 > The name on the tape is APEX.BCK (if theis helps)  >  > Any help will be appreciated.  > 
 > Hiten Patel  >  >  >  >  >  >     F **********************************************************************C This message and any files transmitted with it are confidential and J may be privileged and/or subject to the provisions of privacy legislation.M They are intended solely for the use of the individual or entity to whom they L are addressed. If the reader of this message is not the intended recipient, B please notify the sender immediately and then delete this message.I You are notified that reliance on, disclosure of, distribution or copying  of this message is prohibited.   Bank of Bermuda F **********************************************************************   ------------------------------  , Date: Wed, 26 Jul 2000 14:33:45 +0200 (CEST): From: "Gotfryd Smolik, VMS lists" <gotfryd@stanpol.com.pl> Subject: Re: BACKUP COMMAND I Message-ID: <Pine.LNX.4.21.0007261431020.6083-100000@irys.stanpol.com.pl>   * On Wed, 26 Jul 2000, Hitendra Patel wrote:   +Hi  + F +I'm working on a microvax 3800 (..old), trying to restore a directoryI +from a dataset. Now I have no experience but is this possible to restores +a directory/file?..  ?  Be aware (except the answer from John about /SELECT=file_mask)P: using the OWNER=ORIGINAL (or positional /BY_OWNER=ORIGINAL; in new VMS version - IMHO a buggy idea !). If not - you getDF the whole directory tree restored with the same owner and protection !7 (what can be or can be not a problem to you, of course)0    Regards - Gotfryd -- oE =====================================================================gF $ ON F$ERROR("LANGUAGE","ENGLISH","IN_MESSAGE").GT.F$ERROR("NORMAL") - 		THEN EXCUSE/OBJECT=MEs. $!                        GS@stanpol.zabrze.plE =====================================================================k   ------------------------------   Date: 26 Jul 2000 08:26 CSTd' From: carl@gerg.tamu.edu (Carl Perkins)S Subject: RE: BACKUP COMMAND - Message-ID: <26JUL200008263194@gerg.tamu.edu>   : "Dijk, Jeroen van" <Jeroen.vandijk@getronics.nl> writes...O }It's not also important to know with which parameter the saveset is backupped?s }--  }Jeroen M.W. van Dijk   F Generally speaking, no. Exceptions would be cases like when the backupD was made with the /physical qualifier, which is not the usual way of	 doing it.e   --- Carl   ------------------------------  + Date: Wed, 26 Jul 2000 14:57:27 +0000 (GMT)m, From: Bill McLaughlin <mcbill20@hotmail.com> Subject: Re: BACKUP COMMANDe5 Message-ID: <F51jc0D543TuylJc0xv000004ea@hotmail.com>n  H A while back I had to restore an entire disk from a backup. This client K always did only image backups but in this case the person doing the backup eK had forgotten the "/image" qualifier. When I restored, I was used to doing sE image backups and restores, so I forgot to use the "/owner=original" rK qualifier. Unfortunately, every file on the disk was then owned by SYSTEM. eH Lastly, since this was a system disk, I had to use WRITEBOOT to make it # bootable once the restore was done.n   Bill McLaughlinW       >P >-----Original Message----- 6 >From: Carl Perkins [mailto:carl@gergl1.gerg.tamu.edu]' >Sent: Wednesday, July 26, 2000 8:26 AM  >To: Info-VAX@Mvb.Saic.Com >Subject: RE: BACKUP COMMAND >  >a; >"Dijk, Jeroen van" <Jeroen.vandijk@getronics.nl> writes...aE >}It's not also important to know with which parameter the saveset isO >backupped?F >}-- >}Jeroen M.W. van Dijk > G >Generally speaking, no. Exceptions would be cases like when the backupoE >was made with the /physical qualifier, which is not the usual way of 
 >doing it. >a	 >--- Carlp >e >y  H ________________________________________________________________________H Get Your Private, Free E-mail from MSN Hotmail at http://www.hotmail.com   ------------------------------  % Date: Wed, 26 Jul 2000 11:16:02 -0400-7 From: "Information CETS2000" <Information@CETS2000.com>r% Subject: CETS2000 and Purchase Orderso2 Message-ID: <8lmvbr$mul$1@slb7.atl.mindspring.net>  J All anyone needs to do is to contact Maritz @ 800-236-7957 and POs will be processed directly.    ------------------------------   Date: 26 Jul 2000 17:37:08 GMT2 From: hoffman@xdelta.zko.dec.nospam (Hoff Hoffman)P Subject: Re: CETS2000 Content (was Re: CETS2000 Registration is open and working6 Message-ID: <8ln7k4$1dj$1@mailint03.im.hou.compaq.com>  3   [various CETS2000 content discussions expurgated]   H   AFAIK, the NSK, Himalaya, and Integrity topics will not be central to J   the content of the CETS2000 LA event.  ITUG sessions and DECUS sessions I   were featured parts of the Vienna event, but -- with the upcoming ITUG dF   event also scheduled for October -- the ITUG content will not be as J   prominently featured at the CETS2000 event.   Specific reference to the J   NSK, Himalaya, and Integrity content planned for the ITUG International L   Summit event is included in the CETS2000 flyers -- though some references K   to Himalaya-oriented content are listed in the expected CETS2000 content.N  F   Based only on personal observation of recent practices (and with no J   specific knowledge of any official plans), I'd tend to expect that thereG   will be various major events with combined Compaq content, providing  G   forums for acquiring information on the range of solutions available  5   from Compaq.  (No, I'm really not in marketing. :-)r  H   That said, y'all may well want to discuss this whole CETS2000 content F   matter with the CETS2000 team, as I'd expect they would be the best G   source of information.  (I am most definitely not the best source of lH   ITUG content information and plans for the CETS2000 event -- I have a F   reasonable idea what is planned for OpenVMS content at the CETS2000 <   event, but not what will be of interest for ITUG members.)   	--   J   I have added alt.comp.tandem-users to the cross-postings list, and have I   set the follow-ups to comp.org.decus as there does not appear to be an o?   ITUG-oriented comp.* newsgroup (eg: comp.org.itug) available.n  N  --------------------------- pure personal opinion ---------------------------L    Hoff (Stephen) Hoffman   OpenVMS Engineering   hoffman#xdelta.zko.dec.com   ------------------------------  , Date: Wed, 26 Jul 2000 13:32:54 +0200 (CEST): From: "Gotfryd Smolik, VMS lists" <gotfryd@stanpol.com.pl>6 Subject: Re: CETS2000 Registration is open and workingI Message-ID: <Pine.LNX.4.21.0007261323330.6083-100000@irys.stanpol.com.pl>   - On Tue, 25 Jul 2000, David J. Dachtera wrote:m   +David Mathog wrote: [...]aD +> Two of the key documents on that page are only in MS Word format. +e5 +So, naturally, Linux and OpenVMS users are left out.     Wrong.r  >  StarOffice v. 5.2 works "usefull enought" with Word documents> (not "enought" to satisfy .DOC or .DOT with advanced VBA macroD  and macro doc-fields [with click-and-make-something-in-the-DOC[1]).>  Then for "typical DOC" all OSes with StarOffice 5.2 available< are *not* left out. And SO 5.2 for linux definitely exists !   [...] / +>  So why are these in MS Word format when PDFo [...]n +Good question, David!  D  Acrobat Reader is free. But the full packet *costs* - and if anyone! has already license for Office...rC  Yes, ok - if anyone has Office 97 or 2000 then can add also .HTML.   I will agree.    Regards - Gotfryd= [1] at least some my self-made .DOT will not work one-by-one.v9  Haven't enought check the macros from Star Office ! (too  less time, you know...)n --  E =====================================================================-F $ ON F$ERROR("LANGUAGE","ENGLISH","IN_MESSAGE").GT.F$ERROR("NORMAL") - 		THEN EXCUSE/OBJECT=MEn. $!                        GS@stanpol.zabrze.plE =====================================================================h   ------------------------------  # Date: Wed, 26 Jul 2000 12:02:06 GMT,- From: "Richard D. Piccard" <piccard@ohio.edu>u6 Subject: Re: CETS2000 Registration is open and working( Message-ID: <397ED33E.AD243D52@ohio.edu>  N And what about private institutions of higher education, such as Caltech?  Why1 would any of their staff think to check that box?a  #                                 RDPl     Carl Karcher wrote:   K > In a previous article, kaplow_r@eisner.decus.org.mars (Bob Kaplow) wrote:s > ->O > ->The only option to get through the registration process is via credit card. N > ->What about those of us who need to register via company Purchase Order? InM > ->the past I've filled out the hard copy form, had management sign off, and-= > ->our purchasing folks issue a PO, followed u with a check.u > ->N > ->How do you register this time if your company is paying for the symposium? >-H > If you check the box indicating you're a government organization, thenH > you'll get a choice of paying by a PO. No credit card number required.   --B ==================================================================B Dick Piccard                           Academic Technology ManagerB piccard@ohio.edu                                 Computer ServicesB http://oak.cats.ohiou.edu/~piccard/                Ohio University   ------------------------------  # Date: Wed, 26 Jul 2000 13:08:23 GMTg From: rob.lesan@zdnetonebox.com>6 Subject: Re: CETS2000 Registration is open and working) Message-ID: <8lmns4$gfm$1@nnrp1.deja.com>o  2 In article <8llg85$e78$1@slb6.atl.mindspring.net>,:   "Information CETS2000" <Information@CETS2000.com> wrote:H > > I am a Tandem professional, is this primarily a non-NSK event?  MostF > > everything on the website talks about solution providers for otherH > > platforms.  ITUG is at the end of October, why would/should I attend	 > > this?a > . > You should attend ITUG (www.ITUG.org/events)  F Gee, thanks for the informative and helpfull reply.  Thanks to this, I. can make an intelligent and informed decision!  * ------------------------------------------	 Rob Lesano* Tandem Systems Programmer/Database Analyst rob.lesan@zdnetonebox.comO* ------------------------------------------    & Sent via Deja.com http://www.deja.com/ Before you buy.y   ------------------------------  % Date: Wed, 26 Jul 2000 11:14:00 -0400 7 From: "Information CETS2000" <Information@CETS2000.com>.6 Subject: Re: CETS2000 Registration is open and working3 Message-ID: <8lmv7r$umo$1@nntp9.atl.mindspring.net>   C In more detail.  CETS2000 was designed not to replicate the contentmK available at the ITUG Summit.  The details on the positioning between these: two conferences is at...  + http://www.decus.org/CETS2000/EKE2000.shtmlk  I ...I wish ITUG had also place this information on its web site.  From thet web site...n   ---start---t  " Which conference is right for you?  J Join us at the ITUG International Summit in San Jose if you're looking forG the most relevant in-depth technical and product knowledge available onoI Compaq NonStopTM business critical solutions such as.Himalaya, Integrity, B ZLE, and more. No other conference provides this level of valuableL Tandem-related information, and the ability to meet one-on-one with hundreds of Compaq developers.O  J Join us at the Compaq Enterprise Technical Symposium in Los Angeles if youI need comprehensive knowledge focusing on the full breadth of products andtL solutions in the Compaq enterprise computing portfolio. It's your one sourceK for in-depth information on implementing Windows 2000, UNIX, OVMS, NetWare,eI Alpha platforms, industry standard ProLiant servers, StorageWorks, client  computing and more.u  	 ---end---    Was that a more helpful answer?c      E =====================================================================u, <rob.lesan@zdnetonebox.com> wrote in message# news:8lmns4$gfm$1@nnrp1.deja.com...[4 > In article <8llg85$e78$1@slb6.atl.mindspring.net>,< >   "Information CETS2000" <Information@CETS2000.com> wrote:J > > > I am a Tandem professional, is this primarily a non-NSK event?  MostH > > > everything on the website talks about solution providers for otherJ > > > platforms.  ITUG is at the end of October, why would/should I attend > > > this?- > >i0 > > You should attend ITUG (www.ITUG.org/events) >tH > Gee, thanks for the informative and helpfull reply.  Thanks to this, I0 > can make an intelligent and informed decision! >n, > ------------------------------------------ > Rob Lesanr, > Tandem Systems Programmer/Database Analyst > rob.lesan@zdnetonebox.comi, > ------------------------------------------ >  >p( > Sent via Deja.com http://www.deja.com/ > Before you buy.t   ------------------------------  # Date: Wed, 26 Jul 2000 15:37:05 GMTh/ From: "John Nixon" <jorlnixon@worldnet.att.net> 6 Subject: Re: CETS2000 Registration is open and workingH Message-ID: <BADf5.17062$o71.1092502@bgtnsc04-news.ops.worldnet.att.net>  B I don't think the reply deserved such sarcasm.  You asked why you,< at tandem professional, should attend CETS2000, instead of a= tandem-centric event.  The answer indicated that there was non@ reason,  and that you should attend an event appropriate to your< needs.  What is wrong wiht that?  Now, if he said you should8 attend CETS2000, then you would deserver some rationale.  , <rob.lesan@zdnetonebox.com> wrote in message# news:8lmns4$gfm$1@nnrp1.deja.com...e4 > In article <8llg85$e78$1@slb6.atl.mindspring.net>,< >   "Information CETS2000" <Information@CETS2000.com> wrote:J > > > I am a Tandem professional, is this primarily a non-NSK event?  MostH > > > everything on the website talks about solution providers for otherJ > > > platforms.  ITUG is at the end of October, why would/should I attend > > > this?e > >e0 > > You should attend ITUG (www.ITUG.org/events) >*H > Gee, thanks for the informative and helpfull reply.  Thanks to this, I0 > can make an intelligent and informed decision! >e, > ------------------------------------------ > Rob Lesan , > Tandem Systems Programmer/Database Analyst > rob.lesan@zdnetonebox.come, > ------------------------------------------ >i >o( > Sent via Deja.com http://www.deja.com/ > Before you buy.e   ------------------------------  # Date: Wed, 26 Jul 2000 16:26:34 GMTl From: rob.lesan@zdnetonebox.com 6 Subject: Re: CETS2000 Registration is open and working) Message-ID: <8ln3fi$po4$1@nnrp1.deja.com>*  H In article <BADf5.17062$o71.1092502@bgtnsc04-news.ops.worldnet.att.net>,2   "John Nixon" <jorlnixon@worldnet.att.net> wrote:D > I don't think the reply deserved such sarcasm.  You asked why you,> > at tandem professional, should attend CETS2000, instead of a? > tandem-centric event.  The answer indicated that there was nobB > reason,  and that you should attend an event appropriate to your> > needs.  What is wrong wiht that?  Now, if he said you should: > attend CETS2000, then you would deserver some rationale.  E Why not?  I Tandem/Compaq have talked about consolidating user groupsA> and conferences since the day they merged.  I recently changedG employers and have not recieved any information on ITUG.  With they way D things have gone in the past, I would not have been suprised to find2 out that this IS ITUG and I simply didn't know it.  E On the other hand, what if the CETS 2000 conference was the technical.9 side of ITUG?  Here is an excerpt from the CETS web site:M  , --------------------------------------------  E Technical Breadth - Entire range of Compaq Technologies and SolutionsT  D Latest platform technologies including Compaq Tru64 UnixUNIX, Linux,$ OVMS, NSK, NetWare, and Windows 2000  , --------------------------------------------  E This clearly states that NSK (Tandem) will be showcased here.  I have C always enjoyed ITUG, but these days my manager gets more out of it.k3 The CETS web page led me to believe that this was aR? technical/engineering conference and would be more to my speed.   F The lack of explanation in the original response is what I was gettingE at.  That and the total anonymitiy of the response begged me to reply0B in the way I did.  There was absolutely no explanation as to why I should seek one or the other.n  E BTW, since this was posted to a Tandem specific newsgroup, I felt thetE explanation might just help some of the other members decide as well.r  E Heck, maybe I will attend both this year and see which one I actuallytC get more out of.  Until now, I had never heard of CETS, this entire.! discussion has helped me greatly.K  
 Tks all...  . > <rob.lesan@zdnetonebox.com> wrote in message% > news:8lmns4$gfm$1@nnrp1.deja.com... 6 > > In article <8llg85$e78$1@slb6.atl.mindspring.net>,> > >   "Information CETS2000" <Information@CETS2000.com> wrote:F > > > > I am a Tandem professional, is this primarily a non-NSK event? MostD > > > > everything on the website talks about solution providers for otheroE > > > > platforms.  ITUG is at the end of October, why would/should I  attend
 > > > > this?e > > >l2 > > > You should attend ITUG (www.ITUG.org/events) > >eB > > Gee, thanks for the informative and helpfull reply.  Thanks to this, Iy2 > > can make an intelligent and informed decision! > > . > > ------------------------------------------
 > > Rob Lesan*. > > Tandem Systems Programmer/Database Analyst > > rob.lesan@zdnetonebox.com0. > > ------------------------------------------ > >s > >l* > > Sent via Deja.com http://www.deja.com/ > > Before you buy.1 >0 >1   --* ------------------------------------------	 Rob Lesan0* Tandem Systems Programmer/Database Analyst rob.lesan@zdnetonebox.com.* ------------------------------------------    & Sent via Deja.com http://www.deja.com/ Before you buy.e   ------------------------------  % Date: Wed, 26 Jul 2000 18:25:03 +0100t- From: Tim Llewellyn <tim.llewellyn@bbc.co.uk>(= Subject: Re: got to remember to STOP trying to use OpenVMS...u) Message-ID: <397F1EEF.80DB41E6@bbc.co.uk>i   Bob Koehler wrote:  D >    Nonsequitur, my point being that someone "in the UNIX camp" andG >   clearly not "VMS bigots" was making an implied claim to a "Standard=J >   UNIX".  This is independent of who at the time owned UNIX or what that >   owner did.  H Stanndard Unix is the type of unix that whoever is making that statement& currently works on or grew up with :-)   --6 Tim Llewellyn, OpenVMS Infrastructure, Remarcs Project0 MedAS at the BBC, Whiteladies Road, Bristol, UK.A Email tim.llewellyn@bbc.co.uk. Home tim.llewellyn@cableinet.co.uk:  A I speak for myself only and my views in no way represent those ofD MedAS or the BBC.e   ------------------------------  % Date: Wed, 26 Jul 2000 06:31:12 -0700 5 From: Richard  <maher_rjNOmaSPAM@hotmail.com.invalid>e Subject: Ground Hog Daya9 Message-ID: <09920fb9.c15a9e5b@usw-ex0110-076.remarq.com>a  0 This may sound like a bizarre request, but . . .     * Sent from AltaVista http://www.altavista.com Where you can also find related Web Pages, Images, Audios, Videos, News, and Shopping.  Smart is Beautiful2   ------------------------------  % Date: Wed, 26 Jul 2000 11:06:00 +01000& From: Roy Omond <Roy.Omond@compaq.com>! Subject: Re: GS140 write I/O wallo* Message-ID: <397EB808.E12CAB1A@compaq.com>   John Nixon wrote:i   > [...snip snip...] K > I either need to replace all that storage (which is not necessarily a badeJ > option) with fibre channel or SCSI storage, or I need to put four CIPCAsH > in the Alpha.  Each CIPCA requires four PCI slots, and the ES40 doesnt > have that many.y  @ Small nitpick:  the CIPCA-BA requires *two* PCI slots, not four.  	 Roy Omond  Blue Bubble Ltd., (certainly not speaking on behalf of Compaq)   ------------------------------   Date: 26 Jul 2000 11:03:11 GMTF From: lederman@star.enet.dec.DISABLE-JUNK-EMAIL.com (Bart Z. Lederman)! Subject: Re: GS140 write I/O wall * Message-ID: <8lmghf$q9o@usenet.pa.dec.com>  8 I haven't seen any 'walls' on I/O performance.  I passed< this message around our group, and got the following comment< from one of my co-workers who has done a lot of I/O testing.  5 There must be something else going on in the originalh3 configuration that wasn't mentioned in the originali4 posting.  More information on exactly how the system2 is configured, what application is being used, how4 I/O is being measured, etc., would be needed to tell what is really going on.   ========  = I have been running on an 8 CPU GS140 for several years now.  0 The system has evolved from EV6/525 and EV6/700.  J My performance tests have delivered maximum WRITE throughputs varying from7 1.2 Megabytes per second (1 block random write IOs ) tor: 94.3 Megabytes per second (127 block random write IOs )to : 150 Megabytes per second (127 block sequential write IOs )9 248 Megabytes per second (127 block sequential READ IOs )u6 with various configurations including CI, SCSI and FC.  H I may have come close to being CPU bound, but analysis of data indicatesB that adapter and controller capacity were the limiting factors. MyF performance was achieved through artificially configuring the tests toE distribute the load as evenly as possible across all system resources J involved. Thus you cannot take these numbers for granted since performanceJ is dependent upon all of the configurations and settings on your system inK the controllers, adapters, and operating system AND applications and users.,  L I am not saying that anyone can achieve these levels of performance with anyL CI, SCSI or FC configuration, but I have not encountered a bottleneck caused by the platform itself.l   - Mark DeYoung Mark.DeYoung@Digital.Com% OpenVMS Performance Expertise Center       -- a(  B. Z. Lederman   Personal Opinions Only  8  Posting to a News group does NOT give anyone permission8  to send me advertising by E-mail or put me on a mailing  list of any kind.  5  Please remove the "DISABLE-JUNK-EMAIL" if you have al5  legitimate reason to E-mail a response to this post.g   ------------------------------  % Date: Wed, 26 Jul 2000 01:03:00 -0400o* From: David A Froble <davef@tsoft-inc.com>! Subject: Re: GS140 write I/O wall - Message-ID: <397E7104.5E6736B9@tsoft-inc.com>    John Nixon wrote:f > G > I would love to go for the ES40 instead of the GS140, but the problem G > I need to solve is that the three VAX 7860s that I am phasing out are D > connected to about 300 GBytes of CI storage on four star couplers.J > These VAXes are still critical and need very good disk access until they > are gone.l  J This isn't very simple.  You will need to evaluate your I/O patterns.  NewL storage, assuming your storage is as vintage as your VAXs, is probably (veryO probably) a good idea in any case.  The new drives are quicker, are much larger N (with 36 GB drives, 10 will surpass your current storage), and have advantagesL you list below.  However, if you need many heads reading/writing at the same, time, then bigger is not necessarily better.  K > I either need to replace all that storage (which is not necessarily a bad2J > option) with fibre channel or SCSI storage, or I need to put four CIPCAsH > in the Alpha.  Each CIPCA requires four PCI slots, and the ES40 doesntJ > have that many.  I also need a couple of PCI slots for Ethernet (fast or > GBit),' > and a couple more of some SNA boards.  > K > If I can cost justify swapping out all that storage, then I still have toC > deal? > with the logistics of how to unbotrusively phase all this in.a  M Cost justification will depend upon the age of your storage.  But if you can,26 then you should place great emphysis on a clean sweep.  N I'm assuming you currently have a cluster.  If so, while possibly not optimal,L just add all the new stuff to the cluster, and then take your time in movingI stuff.  There will probably be some problems, like some stuff moving overoM ethernet during the transition, but, hey, unless you plan on running the VAXs-O until long after hell freezes over, then you'll have to byte the bullet at sometL time.  Better that you pick the time, than some uncontrolled event picks theK time.  You should also via careful planning be able to minimize problems by N moving applications/data in groups that interact closely, if such is possible.  O Note that ES40s are classified as workgroup systems, and as such, get workgroup= class license prices.=   Dave   -- =4 David Froble                       Tel: 724-529-04504 Dave Froble Enterprises, Inc.      Fax: 724-529-0596> DFE Ultralights, Inc.              E-Mail: davef@tsoft-inc.com6 T-Soft, Inc.  170 Grimplin Road  Vanderbilt, PA  15486   ------------------------------  % Date: Wed, 26 Jul 2000 13:18:55 +0100l- From: Tim Llewellyn <tim.llewellyn@bbc.co.uk>h? Subject: Re: help...on decmotif windows, also on mounting cdromK) Message-ID: <397ED72F.700ECD1F@bbc.co.uk>k   Gigglegs wrote:s  N > My question is that I am trying to run the product install for the dec motif> > windows.  I issued this command (where dka500 is my cd-rom):F > $Product install dwmotif /source=DKA500: [kits.dwmotif_alpha125_kit] >lO >  I get an error message saying device not ready, not mounted, or unavailable.s > I also tried this  >i5 > $ DEFINE PCSI$SOURCE DKA500:[PCSI_ALPHA_DWMOTIF125]f > $PRODUCT INSTALL DWMOTIFF > I get the same device not ready, not mounted or unavailable message. >rN > Seems like I cannot mount my cd rom, is there a volume label assigned to the7 > hobbist cd-rom so I can mount it with a command like:=, > $Mount DKA500: whatvolumelabel logicalname   Use $ mount/over=id dka500:e  N which will display the volume label, and should be adequate for your immediate needs.   >k >t > thanks for your help > gigglegs@aol.com   --6 Tim Llewellyn, OpenVMS Infrastructure, Remarcs Project0 MedAS at the BBC, Whiteladies Road, Bristol, UK.A Email tim.llewellyn@bbc.co.uk. Home tim.llewellyn@cableinet.co.ukg  A I speak for myself only and my views in no way represent those of. MedAS or the BBC.,   ------------------------------  % Date: Wed, 26 Jul 2000 09:33:03 -0300n1 From: "Boyle, Darren" <boyledj@bankofbermuda.com>?? Subject: RE: help...on decmotif windows, also on mounting cdromeK Message-ID: <9F664D538536D411BD3200508B6FF01A333763@bdant027.bda.bobda.com>   H Yes,  mount the CD first and find out the volume label.  you can do this# with MOUNT/FOREIGN or MOUNT/OVER=IDe - Darren   > ----------0 > From: 	gigglegs@aol.com[SMTP:gigglegs@aol.com]' > Sent: 	Tuesday, July 25, 2000 6:17 PM- > To: 	Info-VAX@Mvb.Saic.Com> > Subject: 	help...on decmotif windows, also on mounting cdrom > H > My question is that I am trying to run the product install for the dec > motif > > windows.  I issued this command (where dka500 is my cd-rom):H > $Product install dwmotif /source=DKA500: [kits.dwmotif_alpha125_kit]   > B >  I get an error message saying device not ready, not mounted, or > unavailable. $ > I also tried this  > 5 > $ DEFINE PCSI$SOURCE DKA500:[PCSI_ALPHA_DWMOTIF125]  > $PRODUCT INSTALL DWMOTIFF > I get the same device not ready, not mounted or unavailable message. > J > Seems like I cannot mount my cd rom, is there a volume label assigned to > the 7 > hobbist cd-rom so I can mount it with a command like:o, > $Mount DKA500: whatvolumelabel logicalname >  > thanks for your help > gigglegs@aol.com >     F **********************************************************************C This message and any files transmitted with it are confidential andMJ may be privileged and/or subject to the provisions of privacy legislation.M They are intended solely for the use of the individual or entity to whom they L are addressed. If the reader of this message is not the intended recipient, B please notify the sender immediately and then delete this message.I You are notified that reliance on, disclosure of, distribution or copying  of this message is prohibited.   Bank of BermudapF **********************************************************************   ------------------------------   Date: 26 Jul 2000 15:28:32 GMT8 From: hammond@not@peek.ppb.cpqcorp.net (Charlie Hammond)? Subject: Re: help...on decmotif windows, also on mounting cdrom 6 Message-ID: <8ln030$st0$1@mailint03.im.hou.compaq.com>  ^ In article <20000725171733.01446.00000058@ng-fx1.aol.com>, gigglegs@aol.com (Gigglegs) writes:M >My question is that I am trying to run the product install for the dec motif0= >windows.  I issued this command (where dka500 is my cd-rom):sG >$Product install dwmotif /source=DKA500: [kits.dwmotif_alpha125_kit]    >sO > I get an error message saying device not ready, not mounted, or unavailable. d >I also tried this d >o4 >$ DEFINE PCSI$SOURCE DKA500:[PCSI_ALPHA_DWMOTIF125] >$PRODUCT INSTALL DWMOTIF)E >I get the same device not ready, not mounted or unavailable message.t >,M >Seems like I cannot mount my cd rom, is there a volume label assigned to the-6 >hobbist cd-rom so I can mount it with a command like:+ >$Mount DKA500: whatvolumelabel logicalnameo  @ It looks like you have an OpenVMS Alpha operating system CD-ROM.I The more common way to install DWMOTIF is to boot from the CD and install-E DWMOTIF either as part of an OpenVMS operating system installation oriF upgrade, or from the Layerd Product installation option.  However, you% can do it the way you are trying too.1  I FIRST you must mount the CD.  The PRODUCT INSTALL command does not do thel( mount for you.  A command to do this is:  +     $ MOUNT/OVERRIDE=IDENTIFICATION DKA500:0  ? This assumes that DKA500 is the correct device-name for the CD.tI The "/OVERRIDE=IDENTIFICATION" allows you to mount the CD without knowingoF the volume label.  The DEFINE and PRODUCT commands should now work as , above, or you can do it in a single command:  D     $ PRODUCT INSTALL DWMOTIF /SOURCE=DKA500:[PCSI_ALPHA_DWMOTIF125]  G (This avoids the need to DEASSIGN the PCSI$SOURCE logical name when you 
 are done.)  L If you already have DWMOTIF installed, I believe that it needs to be stoppedJ before you can PRODUCT INSTALL a new version of it.  Also, you will almostI certainly need to AUTOGEN and re-boot your system before starting the neweJ verion of DWMOTIF.  If you boot from the CD-ROM and install as part of theJ OpenVMS installation/upgrade, all of this happens "automagically", so that is often the easiest way.o  B I also recommend that you get and read a copy of the OpenVMS AlphaE Upgrade and Installation manual for the version of OpenVMS Alpha thatP you are installing.a   --  K     Charlie Hammond -- Compaq Computer Corporation -- Pompano Beach  FL USA F          (hammond@peek.ppb.cpqcorp.net -- remove "@not" when replying)J       All opinions expressed are my own and not necessarily my employer's.   ------------------------------    Date: 26 Jul 2000 10:54:50 -0400/ From: jordan@lisa.gemair.com (Jordan Henderson)c. Subject: Interbase 6.0 released as Open Source* Message-ID: <8lmu3q$ns8$1@lisa.gemair.com>  8 Well, Interbase 6 has been released as Open Source under5 a license very similar to the one in which Mozilla ist released, I understand.u   You can find out about it   -   http://www.borland.com/interbase/index.html    here.e  9 I've downloaded it, and some of you might be glad to hearo5 that it doesn't include the dreaded configure script.,  : I understand that the code is very portable.  I wonder how7 hard it would be to get this going on OpenVMS?  Didn't l5 someone say that this was based on something that wasi originally on OpenVMS?   -Jordan Henderson  jordan@greenapple.comr   ------------------------------  % Date: Wed, 26 Jul 2000 18:31:23 +0100a- From: Tim Llewellyn <tim.llewellyn@bbc.co.uk> 7 Subject: Re: Limit a UIC group access to a number of 50o) Message-ID: <397F206B.E1DAD565@bbc.co.uk>   " "Gotfryd Smolik, VMS lists" wrote:  / > On Wed, 19 Jul 2000 trdorr@my-deja.com wrote:-> > [...your answer to Larry Kilgallen message... Please: answer. >  *after* included (original) post/mail !...] >a- > +Thanks for the suggestion for MAXACCTJOBS.6J > +However,MAXACCTJOBS does not address the solution. I want to be able toF > +limit the number of users in a UIC group to not be able to login if2 > +there are more than 50 users in that UIC group. >t# >  Can you be more specific, why ??o* >  IMHO it is suposed do exactly that job.+ >  Supose group 743 and account name LIM50:r >e > UAF> MOD [743,*]/ACCOUN=LIM50 ! > UAF> MOD [743,*]/MAXACCTJOBS=50i >a  ? But, if your system has been setup badly, you may have users iny@ the same group but different (or non-existant) accounts. OK, you7 should sort out your UAF but it isn't always that easy.r  --o6 Tim Llewellyn, OpenVMS Infrastructure, Remarcs Project0 MedAS at the BBC, Whiteladies Road, Bristol, UK.A Email tim.llewellyn@bbc.co.uk. Home tim.llewellyn@cableinet.co.ukl  A I speak for myself only and my views in no way represent those of. MedAS or the BBC.n   ------------------------------  % Date: Wed, 26 Jul 2000 13:47:41 +0200 * From: Ferry Bolhar <bol@adv.magwien.gv.at> Subject: Memory & CPU Support$7 Message-ID: <964612060.919588@mozart.adv.magwien.gv.at>t   Hi all,g  C what is the maximum amount of memory currently supported on VAX and D Alpha hardware? I think 3.5GB on VAX and 16GB on Alpha, right? Which models support this memory?   A And how many CPU's does SMP currently support? On which hardware?o  ( MTIA for your answers and best greeting,   Ferry  -- t Ing. Ferry Bolhar-Nordenkampf  Municipality of Vienna Municipality Department 14
 A-1010 Viennaa E-mail: bol@adv.magwien.gv.atp  : "Wenn hier einer schuld ist, dann immer nur der Computer."   ------------------------------  % Date: Wed, 26 Jul 2000 14:42:45 +0200-6 From: "Dijk, Jeroen van" <Jeroen.vandijk@getronics.nl>! Subject: RE: Memory & CPU Support.M Message-ID: <2795B75EF003D311801A00A0C906B51187E3E2@cucexec.gbc.getronics.nl>D  N The max number of CPU on which hardware you can get from the performance list.J http://www.compaq.com/alphaserver/performance/perf_by_name.html voor alphaL http://www.compaq.com/alphaserver/performance/perf_by_name_dec.html voor vax       -----Original Message-----1 From: Ferry Bolhar [mailto:bol@adv.magwien.gv.at]-! Sent: woensdag 26 juli 2000 13:480 To: Info-VAX@Mvb.Saic.Com  Subject: Memory & CPU Support.     Hi all,:  C what is the maximum amount of memory currently supported on VAX and7D Alpha hardware? I think 3.5GB on VAX and 16GB on Alpha, right? Which models support this memory?i  A And how many CPU's does SMP currently support? On which hardware?i  ( MTIA for your answers and best greeting,   Ferryd -- f Ing. Ferry Bolhar-Nordenkampfw Municipality of Vienna Municipality Department 14
 A-1010 Vienna  E-mail: bol@adv.magwien.gv.att  : "Wenn hier einer schuld ist, dann immer nur der Computer."   ------------------------------  % Date: Wed, 26 Jul 2000 14:47:42 +0200d= From: Arne =?iso-8859-1?Q?Vajh=F8j?= <arne.vajhoej@gtech.com>y! Subject: Re: Memory & CPU Supporty) Message-ID: <397EDDEE.D7C5AE11@gtech.com>t   Ferry Bolhar wrote:BE > what is the maximum amount of memory currently supported on VAX and1F > Alpha hardware? I think 3.5GB on VAX and 16GB on Alpha, right? Which > models support this memory?  > C > And how many CPU's does SMP currently support? On which hardware?i  / Alpha: GS320 with 32 CPU's & 256 GB memory (see / http://www.compaq.com/alphaserver/a-chart.html)r6 VAX: 7760 with 6 CPU & 3.5 GB memory (after my memory)   Arne   ------------------------------  % Date: Wed, 26 Jul 2000 13:54:54 +01000& From: Roy Omond <Roy.Omond@compaq.com>! Subject: Re: Memory & CPU Support1* Message-ID: <397EDF9E.2AF38CB8@compaq.com>   Ferry Bolhar wrote:o  	 > Hi all,e > E > what is the maximum amount of memory currently supported on VAX andiF > Alpha hardware? I think 3.5GB on VAX and 16GB on Alpha, right? Which > models support this memory?s > C > And how many CPU's does SMP currently support? On which hardware?t > * > MTIA for your answers and best greeting,  H AlphaServer GS320 model 32 can have up to 256 Gbytes, and up to 32 CPUs.  : VAX 7000/10000 can have up to 3.5 Gbytes and up to 6 CPUs.  < > "Wenn hier einer schuld ist, dann immer nur der Computer."  B Nein, ich auch !  Ich bin schuld.  Ich hab's getan ... ich gebe zu ...ich war's ... ich kann nicht luegen ... :-)s  	 Roy Omondo Blue Bubble Ltd., (certainly not speaking on behalf of Compaq)   ------------------------------   Date: 26 Jul 2000 08:53 CSTm' From: carl@gerg.tamu.edu (Carl Perkins)o! Subject: Re: Memory & CPU Supporte- Message-ID: <26JUL200008531815@gerg.tamu.edu>t  . Ferry Bolhar <bol@adv.magwien.gv.at> writes...D }what is the maximum amount of memory currently supported on VAX andE }Alpha hardware? I think 3.5GB on VAX and 16GB on Alpha, right? Whichd }models support this memory? } B }And how many CPU's does SMP currently support? On which hardware? } ) }MTIA for your answers and best greeting,2 }  }Ferry  G You are behind the times: your upper limits are too low for the Alphas.   G An ES40 can have up to 32GB of memory (in the "model 2" configuration).t% A GS80 can have up to 64GB of memory.O' A GS160 can have up to 128GB of memory.c' A GS320 can have up to 256GB of memory.e  M The GS320 also wins in the processor count category, with up to 32 processors " (each a 21264A running at 731MHz).  H You might have trouble getting a GS320 delivered - I seem to recall thatI they won't be available for anouther couple of months. You can presumablyt order them now, though.g  L The GS80/160/320 systems are the new generation systems (formerly code namedF "Wildfire"). The ES40 is the top of the line in the mid-range systems.  H Well, OK - there is also the SC series which can have up to 512 CPUs andH up to 2048GB of memory, but that doesn't run VMS and is actually made upF of racks filled with ES40 rack-mount systems (up to 128 ES40 systems).M It runs Tru64 Unix and the Compaq AlphaServer SC System Software (which makestL it look like a single computer, I expect). You could get racks full of ES40sH and run VMS on them in a cluster configuration and get something vaguelyJ similar, but it would act as a cluster instead of a single large computer.  3 See: http://www.compaq.com/alphaserver/a-chart.htmlr   --- Carl   ------------------------------    Date: 26 Jul 2000 16:36:54 +0200G From: Jan Vorbrueggen <jan@mailhost.neuroinformatik.ruhr-uni-bochum.de> ! Subject: Re: Memory & CPU Support H Message-ID: <y43dkxhsah.fsf@mailhost.neuroinformatik.ruhr-uni-bochum.de>  , Ferry Bolhar <bol@adv.magwien.gv.at> writes:  E > what is the maximum amount of memory currently supported on VAX and @ > Alpha hardware? I think 3.5GB on VAX and 16GB on Alpha, right?  L A VMS 7.2-1 patch posted yesterday notes that the page count fields for SHOWH MEMORY have been widened to support more than 76 GB - a somewhat strange* number that translates to 9961472 pages...   	Jan   ------------------------------  % Date: Wed, 26 Jul 2000 09:17:05 -0400t% From: "Islandco" <sales@islandco.com>r% Subject: Microvax 3100-10 and 20  $99e. Message-ID: <sntok0ta3j111@corp.supernews.com>   Yep    We're doing it again  ? This time we are shipping FEDEX Ground Service - $30 per systemp  9 We have a quantity (about 15) Microvax 3100 10's and 20'sw   All have memory and disk   Only one system per user    H We will test them to make sure they power up , but after that, you're on your own  ; If interested, Email your name address and telephone numberb   Thanks   Davids       -- Island Computers US Corporationt 2700 Gregory Street 	 Suite 150u Savannah GA 31404e Tel: 912 447 6622e Fax: 912 201 0096  sales@islandco.com www.islandco.com  C This message and any files transmitted with it are confidential andfJ may be privileged and/or subject to the provisions of privacy legislation.H They are intended solely for the use of the individual or entity to whom theyK are addressed. If the reader of this message is not the intended recipient,nG please notify Island Computers US Corp immediately and then delete thisr message.I You are notified that reliance on, disclosure of, distribution or copyingf of this message is prohibited.   ------------------------------  % Date: Wed, 26 Jul 2000 11:59:05 +0100 & From: Roy Omond <Roy.Omond@compaq.com>: Subject: Re: Mlucas performance probelm - need expert help* Message-ID: <397EC479.A2D4C31A@compaq.com>   Robert Deininger wrote:    > [...snip snip...]  >tN > Is there any guidance available about how much to increase ZERO_LIST_HI whenI > I increase PFN_COLOR_COUNT?  Right now, my PFN_COLOR_COUNT is 1, and mynO > ZERO_LIST_HI is 640.  Should I add 640 to zero_list_hi for each unit increaser > pfn_color_count? >uH > > There's no magic formula for the best settings for these parameters;E > > you'll have to test combinations until you find the best for your = > > particular application.  Unfortunately PFN_COLOR_COUNT is 3 > > not dynamic, so each change requires rebooting.. >7E > This will be difficult, since I haven't come up with a reliable way-I > to measure the magnitude of the problem.  But it's better than nothing.l  C Robert, I think the best thing for you to do is to get hold of  then8 "OpenVMS AXP Internals and Data Structures, Version 1.5"A manual; on page 416, there is a short description of ZERO_LIST_HIuG in its discussion on the idle loop, which I think describes rather wellaB what happens.  I'd cut and paste some internal stuff here, but I'mB not sure of the confidentiality of the document, and I'm erring onC the side of caution (I'm a contractor, and I'd rather not be "asked  to leave" ;-).  	 Roy OmondP Blue Bubble Ltd., (certainly not speaking on behalf of Compaq)   ------------------------------  % Date: Wed, 26 Jul 2000 13:33:25 +0200e= From: Arne =?iso-8859-1?Q?Vajh=F8j?= <arne.vajhoej@gtech.com>t" Subject: Re: OpenVMS documentation) Message-ID: <397ECC85.688EB41C@gtech.com>w   Grant Schoep wrote:aJ > Does anyone know of a mirror for OpenVMS documenttion. I can't get to itA > off of Compaq's site because they have it going to port 8000 ors0 > something, and I think our firewall blocks it.  " http://www.openvms.compaq.com/doc/  B > If this is a FAQ somewhere, tell me where the FAQ is too. Thanks  
 Try visit:  ) http://www.levitte.org/~ava/vms_doc.htmlx ) http://www.levitte.org/~ava/vms_faq.htmlxw   Arne   ------------------------------  % Date: Wed, 26 Jul 2000 14:59:22 +0900e7 From: "Kazuyuki Fukaya" <kazuyuki.fukaya@jp.compaq.com> + Subject: Re: OpenVMS Registry Configurationl/ Message-ID: <8llvfn$mf3$1@news.tko.cpqcorp.net>   B Gaitan D'Antoni wrote in message <8lhhsu$qe1@usenet.pa.dec.com>...9 >That message means that the requested key doesn't exist.l >lD >That key is created when you select option 3 "Populate the Registry databaseL >for COM" from DCOM$SETUP.COM. After you populate the registry you should be >able to list the key. >f   Thank you, Mr. Gaitan D'Antoni.p  L I have tried to excute DCOM$SETUP.COM to configure COM for OpenVMS and found this kind of problem.tJ After populating the registry database for COM on OpenVMS, I could see theJ key using "regedt32.exe" from Windows NT by connecting to a remote OpenVMSK registry. It looks fine from Windows NT, but I get this error message usingm REG$CP to list the exact key. : ( To do this I had installed Advansed Server, of course. )  K To me, this seems to be a problem of Language support and this comes befored/ COM for OpenVMS installation. The reason is ...mH I found that this problem occurs just after the installation of Japanese OpenVMS.H In a environment without a Japanese support I could excute the following instruction.     $mcr reg$cph7     $REG>list key hkey_local_machine\software\microsoft*  K But just after Japanese OpenVMS is installed , I always get error message -a7 the same one when trying to list a key that not exist..e   Kazuyuki Fukayas   ------------------------------  % Date: Wed, 26 Jul 2000 14:18:56 -0400f3 From: "Gaitan D'Antoni" <gaitan.dantoni@compaq.com> + Subject: Re: OpenVMS Registry Configurationi* Message-ID: <8ln6jf$dmh@usenet.pa.dec.com>  G I suspect this is a problem with your locale. Please try the following:a  + $ locale show   ! verify that LANG is not Co $ define lang ce $ mcr reg$cp .....  G Kazuyuki Fukaya wrote in message <8llvfn$mf3$1@news.tko.cpqcorp.net>...*L >To me, this seems to be a problem of Language support and this comes before0 >COM for OpenVMS installation. The reason is ...I >I found that this problem occurs just after the installation of Japanesed	 >OpenVMS.g   ------------------------------   Date: 26 Jul 2000 14:34:30 GMT2 From: mathog@seqaxp.bio.caltech.edu (David Mathog)4 Subject: PDF viewers, was: Re: CETS2000 Registration, Message-ID: <8lmstn$crg@gap.cco.caltech.edu>  [ In article <397DC438.78468523@uiowa.edu>, "Richard L. Dyson" <rick-dyson@uiowa.edu> writes:i >> > Others are in PDF or HTML.l >> 50 >> Still no PDF reader for OpenVMS besides xpdf. >n@ >	Check the OpenVMS web pages at Compaq, but they are now givingF >out an Adobe PDF viewer for OpenVMS.  I think it is JAVA and requiresH >updating JAVA to latest and running on v7.2, etc. etc., but it is there >now.t >,? >	Note, GV (with GS) does PDF too.  I use it lots of times, butsF >it does choke on some PDF files.  GS v6 is working for OpenVMS and GV< >actually started on OpenVMS and was then ported to Unix. :)  1 I've tried all 3 of these and rate them this way:h  D 1.  Adobe's Java PDF viewer.  Requires a ridiculous amount of memory     and is slow to start.     2.  GV works, but not as well as  G 3.  XPDF works on pretty much all documents I've tried, starts quickly,,I     and uses very little memory (compared to the Java version!)  However,.D     for best results you must build/use T1LIB or rotated fonts won'tB     work properly.  (Many thanks to Martin Zinser for all the work4     he put into these ports.)  For more details see:  8     http://www.decus.de:8080/www/vms/sw/notes/xpdf.htmlx   Regards,   David Mathog mathog@seqaxp.bio.caltech.edu ? Manager, sequence analysis facility, biology division, Caltech     ------------------------------  # Date: Wed, 26 Jul 2000 14:47:41 GMTI= From: system@SendSpamHere.ORG (Brian Schenkenberger, VAXman-)I8 Subject: Re: PDF viewers, was: Re: CETS2000 Registration0 Message-ID: <009EDA77.62A252D6@SendSpamHere.ORG>  a In article <8lmstn$crg@gap.cco.caltech.edu>, mathog@seqaxp.bio.caltech.edu (David Mathog) writes: \ >In article <397DC438.78468523@uiowa.edu>, "Richard L. Dyson" <rick-dyson@uiowa.edu> writes:  >>> > Others are in PDF or HTML. >>> 1 >>> Still no PDF reader for OpenVMS besides xpdf.a >>A >>	Check the OpenVMS web pages at Compaq, but they are now givingcG >>out an Adobe PDF viewer for OpenVMS.  I think it is JAVA and requirestI >>updating JAVA to latest and running on v7.2, etc. etc., but it is therea >>now. >>@ >>	Note, GV (with GS) does PDF too.  I use it lots of times, butG >>it does choke on some PDF files.  GS v6 is working for OpenVMS and GVp= >>actually started on OpenVMS and was then ported to Unix. :)r > 2 >I've tried all 3 of these and rate them this way: >eE >1.  Adobe's Java PDF viewer.  Requires a ridiculous amount of memorye >    and is slow to start. >r! >2.  GV works, but not as well as  >mH >3.  XPDF works on pretty much all documents I've tried, starts quickly,J >    and uses very little memory (compared to the Java version!)  However,E >    for best results you must build/use T1LIB or rotated fonts won'tdC >    work properly.  (Many thanks to Martin Zinser for all the worko5 >    he put into these ports.)  For more details see:h >r9 >    http://www.decus.de:8080/www/vms/sw/notes/xpdf.htmlxe >p	 >Regards,  >d
 >David Mathog  >mathog@seqaxp.bio.caltech.edu@ >Manager, sequence analysis facility, biology division, Caltech   4 ... and there may be a new viewer on the horizon ...   --O VAXman- OpenVMS APE certification number: AAA-0001     VAXman(at)TMESIS(dot)COM2   ------------------------------  , Date: Wed, 26 Jul 2000 14:29:15 +0200 (CEST): From: "Gotfryd Smolik, VMS lists" <gotfryd@stanpol.com.pl> Subject: Re: Plain Kermit?I Message-ID: <Pine.LNX.4.21.0007261425140.6083-100000@irys.stanpol.com.pl>e  $ On Sun, 23 Jul 2000, Beyonder wrote:  , +Someone is going to hit me for this, but...I +I need to transfer some files to my vaxen, ok, great, have Kermit sourceS [...]H  3  Will comment only some points except the subject !t  8 1. If you will send from PC DOS, be aware that on newest4  PC's the old free version will not work: DOS KERMIT(  aill work up to non-MMX Pentium only... 2.E +I mean, do you have ANY idea how long it takes to transfer 8 megs ofp' +stuff via an ASCII upload at 19200 ?!?e    Say why not ZIPping that ?5#  ZIP is much smaller that some MB..i    Regards - Gotfryd   -- aE =====================================================================tF $ ON F$ERROR("LANGUAGE","ENGLISH","IN_MESSAGE").GT.F$ERROR("NORMAL") - 		THEN EXCUSE/OBJECT=ME-. $!                        GS@stanpol.zabrze.plE =====================================================================.   ------------------------------  % Date: Wed, 26 Jul 2000 10:28:06 -0700e$ From: sroyer <steve.royer@ssq.qc.ca>( Subject: printer problem (lpq -Pprinter)9 Message-ID: <02bc96a9.1e878f8d@usw-ex0102-015.remarq.com>   / When I install a new printer (ucx$lprsetup) and 6 I check the validity of my information with lpq i have this :   SSQ7> lpq imp$central9_lpi displayq_remote  *** | Unknown Identification&     | problematic object: printer-name   And I cannot print anything..1    ; -----------------------------------------------------------o  7 Got questions?  Get answers over the phone at Keen.com.o Up to 100 minutes free!  http://www.keen.com    ------------------------------  % Date: Wed, 26 Jul 2000 10:03:01 +0200i- From: "Menno van Eck" <m.van.eck@philips.com>oC Subject: Re: Programming examples for the Generic SCSI Class drivere9 Message-ID: <964620822.630144@mmisg1.best.ms.philips.com>,   Richard,K Your answer about the documentation is correct. Today we found the solutionjJ in appendix B of the IO users reference manual. The SCSI descriptor statedJ in this chapter contains the sense buffer and lengt fields. The descriptorK in the chapter of the generic SCSI class driver does not! At this moment wee are testing on that.   Thanks for the help.  5 "Richard Brodie" <R.Brodie@rl.ac.uk> wrote in messageh% news:8lkbsr$vla@newton.cc.rl.ac.uk...g >-: > "Menno van Eck" <m.van.eck@philips.com> wrote in message2 > news:964556468.186@mmisg1.best.ms.philips.com... >oL > > After investigating the data send to the target device we found that theJ > > adapter is sending a Request Sense also, so the information is cleared > > in the mean time.  >hI > What is meant to happen is that the driver issues the request sense andnG > then intercepts your request and hands you the data. Or even that then$ > adapter issues the request itself. >dG > Unfortunately, this is rather obscurely documented in the 6.2 releasenF > notes. The relevant chapter disappeared from the I/O users reference: > manual altogether at one point, and is well out of date. >aD > That's some background anyway. It looks like there may be some bug8 > preventing your request sense being handled correctly. >p >y   ------------------------------  , Date: Wed, 26 Jul 2000 14:47:08 +0200 (CEST): From: "Gotfryd Smolik, VMS lists" <gotfryd@stanpol.com.pl> Subject: Re: Shareable images I Message-ID: <Pine.LNX.4.21.0007261435350.6083-100000@irys.stanpol.com.pl>     Hello !  6 On Tue, 25 Jul 2000, Arne [iso-8859-1] Vajh=F8j wrote:   +Steven Shamlian wrote:s$ +> What are shareable images?  [...]  / +A VMS sharable image is not a normal .EXE file6    Arne !G;  Even, if you decription is fine I will personally disagree-, with the "normal .EXE" meaning you suggest !5  Most of non-starting-of VMS users are not aware what:6 "image file" means - and IMHO is wrong suggesting that ".EXE means executable".5  IMHO - better is describe (what you already do) whatt< shareable image is - but without the "is not a normal .EXE".;  In my meaning - DCLTABLES.EXE is a fine example of "normals= =2EEXE file". And the fact, that it doesn't contain processorn7 instruction doesn't change the "normal .EXE" meaning...w  9  Me description: "EXE files under VMS can be a equivalent 6 of Windows .EXE, .DLL, driver and special type of data6 files suposed to be 'directly loadable' to memory" -:)* (hm... can .DLL also be "data map" type ?)  B +[...] (VMS has just had them for many many years before the other" +found out it was a good concept).    -:)    Regards - Gotfryd   --=20eC =3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=-C =3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=rC =3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=g	 =3D=3D=3DLF $ ON F$ERROR("LANGUAGE","ENGLISH","IN_MESSAGE").GT.F$ERROR("NORMAL") = -. =09=09THEN EXCUSE/OBJECT=3DME . $!                        GS@stanpol.zabrze.plC =3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=dC =3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=sC =3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=i	 =3D=3D=3DF   ------------------------------  % Date: Wed, 26 Jul 2000 09:04:17 -0400h. From: "Vajhoej, Arne" <Arne.Vajhoej@GTECH.COM> Subject: RE: Shareable imagest> Message-ID: <CD706D1032A7D311BCF60008C75D64FD68AF2D@BELMAIL02>  0 #+A VMS sharable image is not a normal .EXE file  < # Even, if you decription is fine I will personally disagree- #with the "normal .EXE" meaning you suggest !i  6 Normal is a word that can be interpreted in many ways.  : I meant that a shareable image is an .EXE that you can not RUN like a "normal" program.  ) Sorry for the potential misunderstanding.    Arne   ------------------------------  # Date: Wed, 26 Jul 2000 13:47:59 GMTl% From: Uwe Zessin <zessin@my-deja.com>e Subject: RE: Shareable imagese) Message-ID: <8lmq6e$id9$1@nnrp1.deja.com>c  > In article <CD706D1032A7D311BCF60008C75D64FD68AF2D@BELMAIL02>,1   "Vajhoej, Arne" <Arne.Vajhoej@GTECH.COM> wrote: 2 > #+A VMS sharable image is not a normal .EXE file > > > # Even, if you decription is fine I will personally disagree/ > #with the "normal .EXE" meaning you suggest !  >e8 > Normal is a word that can be interpreted in many ways. >n< > I meant that a shareable image is an .EXE that you can not > RUN like a "normal" program.  8 Hm, I've help a customer with his VAX/Alpha migration...  = He had a MENU program that activated several shareable images-= (e.g. 'LIST01.EXE') with LIB$FIND_IMAGE_SYMBOL. He could alsog% '$ RUN LIST01' those images directly.u  = I don't want to go into detail now how the programmer managedy> to get rid of LIST01 and get back to the menu to e.g. activate	 LIST02...<  B I guess it is OK to say that weren't "normal" shareable images ;-)   --
 Uwe Zessin    & Sent via Deja.com http://www.deja.com/ Before you buy.1   ------------------------------  , Date: Wed, 26 Jul 2000 17:29:36 +0200 (CEST): From: "Gotfryd Smolik, VMS lists" <gotfryd@stanpol.com.pl> Subject: RE: Shareable imageseI Message-ID: <Pine.LNX.4.21.0007261657510.6984-100000@irys.stanpol.com.pl>-  ) On Wed, 26 Jul 2000, Vajhoej, Arne wrote:   1 +#+A VMS sharable image is not a normal .EXE filec4                                              ****[1], [..."what "normal" means problem cut off...]; +I meant that a shareable image is an .EXE that you can note +RUN like a "normal" program.                       *******[2]   ;  Excuse me, Arne, that I was little malicious, but probablye& haven't enougt clear describe my view.  >  IMHO what is bad - is the suggestion, that .EXE is a program..  Regardless of the "program" usage or meaning.  =  .EXE *doesn't* say, that this is a program, that the point !o    .EXE file[1] => is-a-image 7  image => not-neccessary-is-a-program, even if is, then1"    can be a program not-for-run[2]  :  Roughly (excuse the simplification, I know that image can> be mapped "privately vs. share" etc. but ASCI-art is sometime ; a wrong utility to get proper block-scheme ! All correctiont are welcome :)):         image => .EXE file       /    \ data-only  with-processor-code      |    /          \       \0 shareable_images   drivers   executable-programs  <  The 3 class of .EXE differs with the "how-to-load-and-use"  way, right ?<  But most begginers starts with the 'knowledge': "acha, .EXE? must be executable program". Like in DOS, Windows or something.1                    ^^^^^^^  -  ********* I know, that you know **********. e  >  But you *keeps* any begginer with the improper description...A  Even with your last sentence you *suggest* (not say), that .EXE  # is "a file with processor code"[2].   ) *********** That IMHO is bad ! **********   D  For the bad point some (beginners) are shocked, that DCLTABLES.EXE ) or SORTMSG.EXE has *proper* extension -:)0    Regards - Gotfryd   -- tE =====================================================================eF $ ON F$ERROR("LANGUAGE","ENGLISH","IN_MESSAGE").GT.F$ERROR("NORMAL") - 		THEN EXCUSE/OBJECT=MEt. $!                        GS@stanpol.zabrze.plE =====================================================================b   ------------------------------  # Date: Wed, 26 Jul 2000 12:13:33 GMTl) From: "David Betz" <dbetz@xlisper.mv.com>h Subject: Spare BC09J?t< Message-ID: <NBAf5.54227$jE1.496483@typhoon.ne.mediaone.net>  K I just received a VAXStation 3100 Model 76 with no internal disk drives. ItoK does have an RZ55-FA external drive but no cable to connect it to the 3100.nI I understand that the cable required is a BC09J. Does anyone have a sparet they want to part with?s   Thanks,e
 David Betz dbetz@xlisper.mv.com   ------------------------------  % Date: Wed, 26 Jul 2000 09:25:35 -0500t* From: WILLIAM WEBB <WWEBB1@email.usps.gov> Subject: Re: Spare BC09J? - Message-ID: <0033000001412337000002L072*@MHS>e   =0AnH      I don't have a spare (that's one of the few I *don't* have spares = for:  H      But if you're truly stumped, send me private email and I'll tell y= ouH      about some places that will either sell you one or that will make = you       one for a small fee ;-)        WWWebb     H ______________________________ Reply Separator ________________________=	 _________  Subject: Spare BC09J?02 Author:  Info-VAX-Request@Mvb.Saic.Com at INTERNET Date:    7/26/00 8:34 AM    H I just received a VAXStation 3100 Model 76 with no internal disk drives= . ItH does have an RZ55-FA external drive but no cable to connect it to the 3= 100.H I understand that the cable required is a BC09J. Does anyone have a spa= re they want to part with?l   Thanks, 
 David Betz dbetz@xlisper.mv.com=a   ------------------------------  % Date: Wed, 26 Jul 2000 09:09:40 +0200e6 From: "Dijk, Jeroen van" <Jeroen.vandijk@getronics.nl>A Subject: RE: Vacancy exists : VMS Junior Sys Admin, Bracknell, UKeM Message-ID: <2795B75EF003D311801A00A0C906B51187E3D9@cucexec.gbc.getronics.nl>.  K If I was living in the uk and was looking for a job I would react for sure.tF And I'm only subscribed for 3 days so its the first time I see the ad.     -----Original Message-----' From: Kilgallen@eisner.decus.org.nospame* [mailto:Kilgallen@eisner.decus.org.nospam]  Sent: dinsdag 25 juli 2000 22:19 To: Info-VAX@Mvb.Saic.Com A Subject: Re: Vacancy exists : VMS Junior Sys Admin, Bracknell, UK     a In article <80256927.0062492B.00@qedilc01.qedi.quintiles.com>, steven.reece@quintiles.com writes:d  N > I'm posting this again because the last posting generated only two responses? > from people that weren't very junior and were over qualified..  > So the second posting is a bad idea, since you are looking for/ people who are too dumb to read comp.os.vms :-)    ------------------------------  + Date: Wed, 26 Jul 2000 08:37:57 -0400 (AST)A? From: "Carlos A. =??Q?Jim=E9nez?=" <C_JIMENEZ@UPR1.UPR.CLU.EDU>eA Subject: Re: Vacancy exists : VMS Junior Sys Admin, Bracknell, UKt1 Message-ID: <01JS7TA141EA002JS9@UPR1.UPR.CLU.EDU>m   Carlos A. Jimenezo
 Alpha Managerh   c_jimenez@upr1.upr.clu.edu   ------------------------------  % Date: Wed, 26 Jul 2000 13:31:22 +0200-= From: Arne =?iso-8859-1?Q?Vajh=F8j?= <arne.vajhoej@gtech.com>A" Subject: Re: VMS mail -> Unix mail) Message-ID: <397ECC0A.8801583A@gtech.com>s   "Richard L. Dyson" wrote:u > Richard B. Gilbert wrote:mL > >         Since VMS Mail is normally stored in Prolog-3 indexed sequentialL > > files, you have your work cut out for you!  To make your life still moreN > > interesting, messages with bodies larger than about 1500 bytes are stored,I > > minus the From:, Subject: and date-time, in separate sequential filesfK > > pointed to by the indexed sequential file.  The only simple way to read=O > > those files is to restore them on a VMS system, use MAIL to extract them to=L > > a sequential file and then move the sequential file to your Unix system.K > > Munging that sequential file into something that can be read by mail orA, > > Mail is relatively simple by comparison! > H >         I have a utility program I got somewhere LONG ago that runs onF > OpenVMS to convert MAIL*.MAI files (folders and all) into the 'flat' > files I > that PC and Unix mail clients like.  It even works well to convert yourD4 > OpenVMS MAIL folders to Netscape Mail for OpenVMS. >  >         Anonymous FTP: > H >                 ftp://www-pi.physics.uiowa.edu/~dyson/extract_mail.zip  C The problem is that the orginal poster apperently wants to do it one Tru64 !    Arne   ------------------------------  + Date: Wed, 26 Jul 2000 07:06:57 -0600 (MDT)m) From: John Nebel <nebel@athena.csdco.com>s" Subject: Re: VMS mail -> Unix mailF Message-ID: <Pine.OSF.4.21.0007260657470.7010-100000@athena.csdco.com>  I A simple solution is to use IMAP and a browser.  Compaq and Innosoft haveh- IMAP servers for VMS.  IMAP is free for Unix.   J Click and drag the folders in the browser. (Use a Mac if you want to avoid MS)-  4 This also can be done within pine in character mode.  
 John Nebel  6 On Wed, 26 Jul 2000, Arne [iso-8859-1] Vajh=F8j wrote:   > "Richard L. Dyson" wrote:  > > Richard B. Gilbert wrote:6L > > >         Since VMS Mail is normally stored in Prolog-3 indexed sequent= ial L > > > files, you have your work cut out for you!  To make your life still m= ore L > > > interesting, messages with bodies larger than about 1500 bytes are st= ored, K > > > minus the From:, Subject: and date-time, in separate sequential fileshL > > > pointed to by the indexed sequential file.  The only simple way to re= adL > > > those files is to restore them on a VMS system, use MAIL to extract t= hem toL > > > a sequential file and then move the sequential file to your Unix syst= em.BL > > > Munging that sequential file into something that can be read by mail = or. > > > Mail is relatively simple by comparison! > >=20J > >         I have a utility program I got somewhere LONG ago that runs onH > > OpenVMS to convert MAIL*.MAI files (folders and all) into the 'flat'	 > > filesvK > > that PC and Unix mail clients like.  It even works well to convert your-6 > > OpenVMS MAIL folders to Netscape Mail for OpenVMS. > >=20 > >         Anonymous FTP: > >=20J > >                 ftp://www-pi.physics.uiowa.edu/~dyson/extract_mail.zip >=20E > The problem is that the orginal poster apperently wants to do it onj	 > Tru64 !e >=20 > Arne >=20 >=20   ------------------------------  # Date: Wed, 26 Jul 2000 06:18:26 GMT 4 From: LESLIE@209-16-45-102.insync.net (Jerry Leslie): Subject: Re: Was "WAY OFF TOPIC:" Now a 1000 USD challenge' Message-ID: <Sovf5.275$XL5.5012@insync>   ! Paul Sture (paul@sture.ch) wrote:s3 : In article <009ED997.55BE996D@SendSpamHere.ORG>, e% : VAXman- Brian Schenkenberger wrote:. : > > : > In article <1620b580.09dd7413@usw-ex0102-084.remarq.com>, 9 : > Jojimbo <jgesslingNOjgSPAM@yahoo.com.invalid> writes:n3 : > >Wow!  With an original subject line containing @ : > >"Satan" and "OS".  It's not surprising you can't figure out= : > >something so simple.  Have you considered using the toolu& : > >available rather than cursing it? : >i : [a bit snipped]  : > B : > >I think some of you should open your eyes and see there are a : > >few more worlds out there.e : > I : > With the aid of my telescope, I've seen many.  I'm still more apt to tI : > stay here on planet Earth where I can breath without the aid of heavysG : > breathing apparatus or have to piss in a vacuum assisted 0G toilet.o : > J : Jojimbo has no idea that a telescope is what got you into this wretched @ : thing :) Besides which, I now have more reasons to hate Win98. :g+ : I just feel like laying down a challenge:I :o : Silly season has struck! : K : It's simple. I have 2 PCs here, a Zyxel 100IH ISDN router. Win98, German yJ : version, about 25GB disk space. RedHat 6.0 on one of them as dual boot.  : German NT also available.* :hJ : Can someone tell me how to configure the damn thing to actually talk to J : my router and use the router to call my ISP? With Win98 (hah). Or linux A : without making me read 750K HOWTO files which are generic unix?= :=I : Properly? Without making me have to boot into linux, restore, and then F8 : connect via an analog modem to get a connection again? : M : Can anyone in the whole wide world show me how to install my Zyxel software=  : in English rather than German? :-5 : Can anyone sort me out with the following solution?M :  : 2 Intel PCS. :<	 : I want:eF :    seamless connection via my router to the internet (Win98 & Linux)E :    dual win whatever and linux boot on one system, probably win on wI :    the other, leaving me with a working internet connection on the one o :    which still works?h% :    my cd burner to work, in EnglisheI :    my digital camera to work (English please) (yes, I bought this last hM :    week, with USB, but need WIN98 SE for it to work out of the box (German a :    version, remember)) : I :      Yes I can buy other interfaces, but I am angry that I need w98 SE JD :      to make the bugger work as is. Alternative is another bit of  :      cable/kit for NT.	 :        wF : 1000 USD to the person who can make it work, using non-pirated s/w.  : D : I'll give 2 free nights board and lodging, and free food. Maximum  : 2 x 12 hours work allowed. :aM : If at the end of the weekend it works, I'll be taking you to the local ATM _L : and transferring the 1000 USD direct to your bank account (I let you type  : in your bank details). :AK : OTOH, if you can't manage it in that time, I want 1000 USD from you, for i : wasting my time... :e : Bet no-one can do it...    e  L Zyxel/Netgear ISDN routers have not drawn rave reviews in the comp.dcom.isdnJ newsgroup, which is a better place to ask for help with ISDN. If DejaNews > has them available, look for comp.dcom.isdn posts authored by:     "wdg@[204.52.135.1]"  = aka Bill "Bubba" Garfield, an FCC licensed telecomm engineer.-  D I'm not familiar with Euro ISDN, but a 3COM OfficeConnect LAN Modem,F really an ISDN router/ethernet hub, is very simple to set up, even if I you use fixed IP addresses as I have, to accomodate the home VAXStation.  I My two Windows for Workgroups PCs, the Windows 95 PC, and the VAXStation u6 all use the 3COM ISDN router as their default gateway.  
 More info:  2   http://www.3com.com/products/dsheets/400396.html   OfficeConnect ISDN LAN Modem  C The cost is ~$300US, from places like www.cdw.com, which would saver you $700US.a  C As you probably know by now, USB is NOT supported by NT 4.0. That'siD one reason our digital camera is a Sony Mavica, which uses floppies,% easily used with Wintel Cartel boxes.s    / --Jerry Leslie   leslie@209-16-45-97.insync.neth;                  leslie@209-16-45-102.insync.net is invalidi2                  (my opinions are strictly my own)   ------------------------------  % Date: Wed, 26 Jul 2000 01:41:38 -0400h* From: David A Froble <davef@tsoft-inc.com>: Subject: Re: Was "WAY OFF TOPIC:" Now a 1000 USD challenge- Message-ID: <397E7A12.C582F171@tsoft-inc.com>t   Paul Sture wrote:g > + > I just feel like laying down a challenge:r5 > Can anyone sort me out with the following solution?a >  > 2 Intel PCS. > 	 > I want:aF >    seamless connection via my router to the internet (Win98 & Linux)  P Don't know the router, but since you indicated it included ISDN, I'd assume thatK it has the capability of connecting to an ISP.  The ISP will have their owng directions on how to connect.D  O As for the PCs, you will need a physical connection, such as 10baseT capabilitylM on both peecees and the router, and a hub to connect all together, unless thei router has this capability..  N The router, acting as a gateway, if it can do NAT, will require an internal IPM address, as will each peecee (unless you also use DHCP).  Don't you just lovefP all the abreviations?  Then there is the question of whether it requires a fixedN IP address, or can use the unique IP address assigned each time you connect to the ISP.  O >    dual win whatever and linux boot on one system, probably win on the other,jT >        leaving me with a working internet connection on the one which still works?  
 Not an issue.t  % >    my cd burner to work, in Englisha  J Actually, I thought the language of CDs was little bumps on the media. :-)  X >    my digital camera to work (English please) (yes, I bought this last week, with USB,T >        but need WIN98 SE for it to work out of the box (German version, remember))R >        Yes I can buy other interfaces, but I am angry that I need w98 SE to makeO >        the bugger work as is. Alternative is another bit of cable/kit for NT.s  N Need to beat the purchasing manager about the head and shoulders with a bat or0 hockey stick.  Is Cricket played in Switzerland?  O > 1000 USD to the person who can make it work, using non-pirated s/w. I'll givePT > 2 free nights board and lodging, and free food. Maximum 2 x 12 hours work allowed.  9 And just what's wrong with software written by my parrot?   8 Sorry, I don't get going until after 13 hours of warmup.  ] > If at the end of the weekend it works, I'll be taking you to the local ATM and transferringsQ > the 1000 USD direct to your bank account (I let you type in your bank details).o  K Don't believe in banks.  A tin can burried in the back yard works best. :-)p  ] > OTOH, if you can't manage it in that time, I want 1000 USD from you, for wasting my time...a   Not from my tin can!   > Bet no-one can do it...o   Well, maybe will, but not can.   Silly season, huh?   -- e4 David Froble                       Tel: 724-529-04504 Dave Froble Enterprises, Inc.      Fax: 724-529-0596> DFE Ultralights, Inc.              E-Mail: davef@tsoft-inc.com6 T-Soft, Inc.  170 Grimplin Road  Vanderbilt, PA  15486   ------------------------------  , Date: Wed, 26 Jul 2000 14:06:44 +0200 (CEST): From: "Gotfryd Smolik, VMS lists" <gotfryd@stanpol.com.pl>E Subject: Re: WAY OFF TOPIC: help me with the seed of satan pseudo-O/S I Message-ID: <Pine.LNX.4.21.0007261403190.6083-100000@irys.stanpol.com.pl>S  % On Mon, 24 Jul 2000, Roy Omond wrote:v   +Phil Howell wrote:F +eJ +> When you "copy" a file in this way, it really means "take a copy of theJ +> contents of this file and store it in your clipboard". If you then do a/ +> "paste" it should create a copy of the file.b + J +(genuine) Question:  is this still the way to copy, say, a 2 Gbyte file ?    Yes.sB  The description was not enought precise: saved is a datastructure3 named "object", where realy is like a "descriptor".e9  Only the "user description" is like "copy to clipboard".e    Regards - Gotfryd   --  E =====================================================================uF $ ON F$ERROR("LANGUAGE","ENGLISH","IN_MESSAGE").GT.F$ERROR("NORMAL") - 		THEN EXCUSE/OBJECT=MEa. $!                        GS@stanpol.zabrze.plE =====================================================================a   ------------------------------  , Date: Wed, 26 Jul 2000 14:19:04 +0200 (CEST): From: "Gotfryd Smolik, VMS lists" <gotfryd@stanpol.com.pl>E Subject: Re: WAY OFF TOPIC: help me with the seed of satan pseudo-O/SaI Message-ID: <Pine.LNX.4.21.0007261408220.6083-100000@irys.stanpol.com.pl>   - On Mon, 24 Jul 2000, Larry D Bohan, Jr wrote:t [...]z* +Can you name a few examples? (seriously). +  +I mean, consider VMS mail,t +E2 + MAIL> DIR/SINCE=YEST/BEF="-2-"/FROM=FOO/SUBJ=BAR + 3 +on a Billy Box mail client, this takes some doing.d3 +(certainly not done a via one simple dialogue box): [...]a; +this is a good illustration methinks, of poor UI design.  0    Will agree.   [...] 4 +on VMS, I could either up-arrow (cmd-line recall), 4 +and/or save it as keypad definition. One keystroke.% +No mouse clicks, no menus/dialogues.   8  For that reason, working under Windows I personally use8 third-party software (Windows Commander as file manager,4 with combined command line and "clickable" interface7 or pine for mail - yes, you see, *this* message is sendl from linux pine).d8  And will personally say, that some WinCmd functionality( is available little faster, than in DCL;9 A example: you can compare two directories (with subdirs)a5 marking only selected files (name mask), only by date=6 or by contens. And in next step you can pre-select the; class of differrence in one window (WinCMD has two windows)R8 like: "file where was differrent, where was equal, where9 newer, where older - and the selected files (even, if not=2 "on screen" !) you can dleete, copy somewhere etc.4  That for years is IMHO missing in DCL: having *all*6 DIRECTORY qualifiers available for *all* file managing
 commands !  6 +or I could do the same action unattended, in a script  1  Even, if .BAT is very limited - *some* operationt can be done...	  And the:h  DEBUG <commandfileyB  resolution (like MACRO SYS$INPUT under DCL) resolves the rest -;>  M +>Which of course doesn't make command lines useless:  there's room for both.-  ;  Agree ! And command line + command keys (control keys) are-! the fastest existing resolution !-    Regards - Gotfryd   -- nE =====================================================================wF $ ON F$ERROR("LANGUAGE","ENGLISH","IN_MESSAGE").GT.F$ERROR("NORMAL") - 		THEN EXCUSE/OBJECT=MEn. $!                        GS@stanpol.zabrze.plE =====================================================================    ------------------------------  % Date: Wed, 26 Jul 2000 13:21:25 +0100u- From: Tim Llewellyn <tim.llewellyn@bbc.co.uk>tE Subject: Re: WAY OFF TOPIC: help me with the seed of satan pseudo-O/Sd) Message-ID: <397ED7C5.7318F64A@bbc.co.uk>t   "David P. Murphy" wrote:  0 > Tim Llewellyn <tim.llewellyn@bbc.co.uk> wrote: >IP > > No, while we are Explorer bashing, why oh why oh why can't I cut that stringQ > > in the window title bar that shows the full path of the current file selectedn7 > > into the buffer so I can paste it somewhere useful?r >iP > welcome to the wonderful world of TWEAK UI (also known as POWER TOY in Win95).J > after installing it, there are several new useful options.  here is one: >2  R Thanks David, I also got another approch in private. The desktop people around ere< don't like mne running odd s/w, but maybe I'll give it a go.  M Having a 3rd party addon is no excese for basic functionality like this to be. absent from the base release.   >  >     fire up Windows Explorer >     select C:\WINDOWSs# >     right-click on file at random . >     move mouse over menu selection "Send To" >     submenu appearsn* >     choose menu selection "Clip Name(s)"A >     clipboard now contains the string "C:\WINDOWS\DRWATSON.EXE"X >bF > yes, i realize it is the full filespec and you wanted just the path,H > but this is Windows, so be glad you get too much instead of too little
 > (for once).u >i  " Thats OK, full filespec is better.   >nE > see http://www.pcforrest.freeserve.co.uk/tweakui.htm for more info.h >w > ok > dpmu > --5 > David P. Murphy          http://www.myths.com/~dpm/b/ > systems programmer        ftp://ftp.myths.comeE >                          mailto:dpm@myths.com            (personal) E > COGITO ERGO DISCLAMO     mailto:dmurphy@ac-tech.com          (work)=   --6 Tim Llewellyn, OpenVMS Infrastructure, Remarcs Project0 MedAS at the BBC, Whiteladies Road, Bristol, UK.A Email tim.llewellyn@bbc.co.uk. Home tim.llewellyn@cableinet.co.uko  A I speak for myself only and my views in no way represent those of- MedAS or the BBC.    ------------------------------  % Date: Wed, 26 Jul 2000 14:20:29 +0100e* From: "Richard Brodie" <R.Brodie@rl.ac.uk>E Subject: Re: WAY OFF TOPIC: help me with the seed of satan pseudo-O/S + Message-ID: <8lmoiu$u0m@newton.cc.rl.ac.uk>   ^ "Tim Llewellyn" <tim.llewellyn@bbc.co.uk> wrote in message news:397ED7C5.7318F64A@bbc.co.uk...  O > Having a 3rd party addon is no excese for basic functionality like this to be  > absent from the base release.0  F To be fair, that's not so different from how many X applications work.C The UI depends on editing some undocumented resource files. Replace C resource files by registry and that's NT. That someone has provided O a utility to do it for you, doesn't alter the fact the functionality is already  there.   ------------------------------  # Date: Wed, 26 Jul 2000 15:31:50 GMTh% From: dpm@myths.com (David P. Murphy)aE Subject: Re: WAY OFF TOPIC: help me with the seed of satan pseudo-O/Sp. Message-ID: <snu1363f3j126@news.supernews.com>  . Tim Llewellyn <tim.llewellyn@bbc.co.uk> wrote:   > "David P. Murphy" wrote:  1 >> Tim Llewellyn <tim.llewellyn@bbc.co.uk> wrote:w  D >>> No, while we are Explorer bashing, why oh why oh why can't I cutC >>> that string in the window title bar that shows the full path ofp< >>> the current file selected into the buffer so I can paste >>> it somewhere useful?  Q >> welcome to the wonderful world of TWEAK UI (also known as POWER TOY in Win95). K >> after installing it, there are several new useful options.  here is one:c   > The desktop people around ere > > don't like mne running odd s/w, but maybe I'll give it a go.  7 so now you're saying you're *not* running windows?  ;-)s  O > Having a 3rd party addon is no excese for basic functionality like this to bel > absent from the base release.r  H au contraire.  not only is PowerToy (for Win95) written by microsoft andG available from their web:ftp site (at least it used to be, that's where8H I got it), Tweak UI (for Win98) is also written by microsoft and in fact4 is on the system CD itself (at least it was for me).   ok dpmP -- -3 David P. Murphy          http://www.myths.com/~dpm/w- systems programmer        ftp://ftp.myths.com=C                          mailto:dpm@myths.com            (personal)0C COGITO ERGO DISCLAMO     mailto:dmurphy@ac-tech.com          (work),   ------------------------------  , Date: Wed, 26 Jul 2000 17:41:12 +0200 (CEST): From: "Gotfryd Smolik, VMS lists" <gotfryd@stanpol.com.pl>E Subject: Re: WAY OFF TOPIC: help me with the seed of satan pseudo-O/SnI Message-ID: <Pine.LNX.4.21.0007261731450.6984-100000@irys.stanpol.com.pl>   ) On Wed, 26 Jul 2000, Tim Llewellyn wrote:h   +"David P. Murphy" wrote:  [...]aF +> welcome to the wonderful world of TWEAK UI (also known as POWER TOY [...]oH +Having a 3rd party addon is no excese for basic functionality like this  @  Minor correction: TU/PowerToys are *not* 3rd party; the utility, are created by the Windows programming team.@  Compare it to some unsupported DCL (or VMS programming utility)+ commands... Like BACKUP/ANAL, SET WATCH,...    [...] F +> see http://www.pcforrest.freeserve.co.uk/tweakui.htm for more info.  3  Probably for the address you get wrong suggestion.n    For "source page" read b.ex.: http://www.microsoft.com?  /windows95/downloads/contents/wutoys/w95pwrtoysset/default.asp8    Regards - Gotfryd   -- -E ===================================================================== F $ ON F$ERROR("LANGUAGE","ENGLISH","IN_MESSAGE").GT.F$ERROR("NORMAL") - 		THEN EXCUSE/OBJECT=MEe. $!                        GS@stanpol.zabrze.plE =====================================================================<   ------------------------------  % Date: Wed, 26 Jul 2000 17:42:27 +0100P- From: Tim Llewellyn <tim.llewellyn@bbc.co.uk> E Subject: Re: WAY OFF TOPIC: help me with the seed of satan pseudo-O/Ss) Message-ID: <397F14F3.2CF000C5@bbc.co.uk>i   "David P. Murphy" wrote:   >   go.g >e9 > so now you're saying you're *not* running windows?  ;-)b  9 :-), sure, its a version of Windows thats been beebed :-)    >a >sQ > > Having a 3rd party addon is no excese for basic functionality like this to bes! > > absent from the base release.r >pJ > au contraire.  not only is PowerToy (for Win95) written by microsoft andI > available from their web:ftp site (at least it used to be, that's wherelJ > I got it), Tweak UI (for Win98) is also written by microsoft and in fact6 > is on the system CD itself (at least it was for me). >n  J OK, and actually if you have 98 you can cut the path from another place in$ Explorer, as I have just discovered.  . I guess you can't cut Motif title bars either.  1 Still doesn't make explorer a decent bit of code.H  --06 Tim Llewellyn, OpenVMS Infrastructure, Remarcs Project0 MedAS at the BBC, Whiteladies Road, Bristol, UK.A Email tim.llewellyn@bbc.co.uk. Home tim.llewellyn@cableinet.co.ukt  A I speak for myself only and my views in no way represent those of7 MedAS or the BBC.c   ------------------------------  / Date: Wed, 26 Jul 2000 09:12:09 +0200 (MET DST)o& From: Rudolf Wingert <win@fom.fgan.de>J Subject: Re: What graphics cards are supported by OpenVMS on a AlphaServer6 Message-ID: <200007260709.JAA13402@sinet1.fom.fgan.de>   Hello,   Fred Kleinsorge wrotes:s   >>>oF The card is a Permedia2 based card.  ELSA GLoria Synergy-8 (i.e. 8mb).F The 3DLabs Oxygen VX1 (16mb) will replace that card in October.  It is Permedia-3 based.r <<<l  C If it is so, does anybody know something more about this. Are therewG multiple visuals possible, including the pseudocolor, as the PowerStorm D does? Or do we have the same problem as with the Elsa Gloria SynergyE (PseudoColor visual is present --> only 8bit visuals, 24bit TrueColorn3 is present --> only True- and DirectColor visuals)?    ------------------------------   Date: 26 Jul 2000 16:01:16 GMT2 From: hoffman@xdelta.zko.dec.nospam (Hoff Hoffman)J Subject: Re: What graphics cards are supported by OpenVMS on a AlphaServer5 Message-ID: <8ln20c$4d$1@mailint03.im.hou.compaq.com>   N In article <1kQglv6GwkkH@flying>, abuse@flying-disk.com (Alan Frisbie) writes:- :In article <8lkep5$7k6$1@lead.zk3.dec.com>, l8 :"Fred Kleinsorge" <kleinsorge@star.zko.dec.com> writes: ..I :> The 3DLabs Oxygen VX1 (16mb) will replace that card in October.  It isr :> Permedia-3 based. :t< :I assume you mean that VMS will support the VX1 in October. :Is that correct?I  J   IIRC, OpenVMS support for the 3DLabs Oxygen VX1 controller is presently I   expected to be available starting circa October 2000 for 2D operations, 5   with 3D support expected to follow at a later date.s  E   Distribution of the initial support will likely follow the current mJ   pattern of an ECO kit, followed by integration into the next appropriateI   OpenVMS release -- as the schedules for the graphics controller and the,I   V7.3 release are fairly close together, the first OpenVMS release with sJ   integrated support may  end up being V7.3-1, and not V7.3.  (V7.3 would H   thus likely end up with an ECO kit included on the distribution disk.)  E   I expect we will have rather more to say about this topic at the LA I   CETS 2000 event, and likely an update on the expected release schedule.0  N  --------------------------- pure personal opinion ---------------------------L    Hoff (Stephen) Hoffman   OpenVMS Engineering   hoffman#xdelta.zko.dec.com   ------------------------------  + Date: Wed, 26 Jul 2000 08:40:15 +0200 (MET)a From: ZINSER@sysdev.exchange.dey$ Subject: Re: WordPerfect for OpenVMS3 Message-ID: <01JS7TBVEFDU9JEUBP@sysdev.exchange.de>    Hello!  7 	I don't use Wordperfect personally, but it might help  6 	to contact the current owner (Sento). Exact links can
 	be found at -  7 	http://www.decus.de:8080/www/eng/vms/comlinks/sw.htmlxr   						Greetings, Martin     : > From:	IN%"INFO-VAX@MVB.SAIC.COM" 20-JUL-2000 09:13:20.03 > Subj:	WordPerfect for OpenVMSi   > Hello, > G > we are interisted for the WordPerfect for OpenVMS software pakage. IsnF > it the newest version of WordPerfect? Is it full compatible with theH > Wintel version? Can we get (buy) it here in Germany? Is there any demo > for OpenVMS out? >   > TIA and regards Rudolf WingertP Dr. Martin P.J. Zinser                                 zinser@sysdev.exchange.de2 Deutsche Boerse Systems AG                        O Koenigsberger Str. 29                                  Tel: +49 69 2101 5634   TL 60284 Frankfurt                                        FAX: +49 69 2101 3411P Germany                                                Private:  zinser@decus.de   ------------------------------  # Date: Wed, 26 Jul 2000 12:32:29 GMTe From: sdvnsf@barcelona.com0 Subject: Ya tengo mi correo @barcelona.com  73644 Message-ID: <xTAf5.576$yl5.159@telenews.teleline.es>  q Por fin y tras varios traspies ya damos correo electronico gratuito tu nombre@barcelona.com. en www.barcelona.coma  H Ademas va incluida tambien la conexion gratuita para rtb, rdsi y rdsi128   Que las disfrutes!!!O ygoohytdmfrtkxlceypcbwmphevglnnetntrvshhqjbbthxxsbzrshrwtnidorfohtlqbrifylzrhlg    ------------------------------   End of INFO-VAX 2000.415 ************************