1 INFO-VAX	Mon, 31 Jul 2000	Volume 2000 : Issue 425       Contents: Re: DSSI node name change ( Re: Finding information on source fiches( Re: Finding information on source fiches$ Re: FS: Compaq 4/8GB DDS2-DAT drives Re: HyperSPI on Alpha dumping  Re: HyperSPI on Alpha dumping  Re: HyperSPI on Alpha dumping  Re: HyperSPI on Alpha dumping . Re: I/Os per second, how do you increase them? Invalid login at remote node? ! Re: Invalid login at remote node?  IP config on Openvms ip config over openvms Killing dead sessions  Re: Killing dead sessions   Re: Microvax 3100-10 and 20  $99 Re: MS IntelliMouse on Alpha? " Re: OpenVMS on an Alphaserver 2100) Re: Patwhorks Performance and TCP NODELAY  Re: PGPi and OpenVMS Re: PGPi and OpenVMS Re: PGPi and OpenVMS Re: PGPi and OpenVMS Re: PGPi and OpenVMS Re: PGPi and OpenVMS Re: PGPi and OpenVMS Resource hash table  Re: Resource hash table  searching DCL cgi examples Re: searching DCL cgi examples Re: searching DCL cgi examples Re: searching DCL cgi examples Re: searching DCL cgi examples Re: Shareable images! RE: Stirrings in the undergrowth? ! Re: Subtracting Dates Time in DCL 
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 Re: Such Crap & Re: The URL that Compaq forgot to send& Re: The URL that Compaq forgot to send Re: Updating RMS Files$ Re: URGENT: VMS keyboard on SUN etc!4 VAX to ALPHA PASCAL enumerated struct packing errors Re: VMS CD create/copy  F ----------------------------------------------------------------------   Date: 31 Jul 2000 12:54:30 GMT2 From: hoffman@xdelta.zko.dec.nospam (Hoff Hoffman)" Subject: Re: DSSI node name change6 Message-ID: <8m3su6$4ce$1@mailint03.im.hou.compaq.com>  T In article <39832894.9204392D@uiuc.edu>, Igor Kuriashkin <ikuriash@uiuc.edu> writes:  D   Please turn off MIME.  (Mozilla on NT is thoughtfully posting your!   entire message twice.)  Thanks!   A :The write up is buried in the VAX 4000/300 Installation Manual,  J :Operation Section Appendix B Programing Parameters for RF-Series ISAs.  ?   It is also "buried" in the OpenVMS FAQ, in sections entitled:    7     MGMT13. Tell me about SET HOST/DUP and SET HOST/HSC 2     MGMT26. How do I rename a DSSI disk (or tape?)  N  --------------------------- pure personal opinion ---------------------------L    Hoff (Stephen) Hoffman   OpenVMS Engineering   hoffman#xdelta.zko.dec.com   ------------------------------    Date: 31 Jul 2000 10:35:39 +0200G From: Jan Vorbrueggen <jan@mailhost.neuroinformatik.ruhr-uni-bochum.de> 1 Subject: Re: Finding information on source fiches H Message-ID: <y466pmzoh0.fsf@mailhost.neuroinformatik.ruhr-uni-bochum.de>  L I seem to rememeber that there is one (or possibly more) final fiche(s) with	 an index.    	Jan   ------------------------------    Date: 31 Jul 2000 10:35:22 -05009 From: Kilgallen@eisner.decus.org.nospam (Larry Kilgallen) 1 Subject: Re: Finding information on source fiches + Message-ID: <lA762uh12LQe@eisner.decus.org>    In article <y466pmzoh0.fsf@mailhost.neuroinformatik.ruhr-uni-bochum.de>, Jan Vorbrueggen <jan@mailhost.neuroinformatik.ruhr-uni-bochum.de> writes:N > I seem to rememeber that there is one (or possibly more) final fiche(s) with > an index.   F I remember the final few sheets containing a table of contents, but no index.   ------------------------------  % Date: Mon, 31 Jul 2000 13:11:14 +0000 $ From: Steve.Spires@yellowpages.co.uk- Subject: Re: FS: Compaq 4/8GB DDS2-DAT drives / Message-ID: <0025692D.00488927.00@quegw01.btyp>   = Contact:   Tel: 3063  -  VSSG, 1st Floor, Bridge Street Plaza   G Whoah there Kent - you'll have Wayne on your back with all this spam...    ;-p    Steve Spires        8 Kent Rankin <krankin@usit.net> on 30/07/2000 08:24:21 PM    To:        Info-VAX@Mvb.Saic.Com+ cc:         (bcc: Steve Spires/YellowPages) B From:      Kent Rankin <krankin@usit.net>, 30 July 2000, 8:24 p.m.    FS: Compaq 4/8GB DDS2-DAT drives        3      The units are located in Knoxville, TN, 37902.   H      There are three storage cabinets in 3300-series storage enclosures. They are as follows:  E           #1   2x DDS2-DAT Drives with 4/8GB storage capability, each 0                Dual SCSI-2 micro-DB50 connectorsE           #2   2x DDS2-DAT Drives with 4/8GB storage capability, each 0                Dual SCSI-2 micro-DB50 connectorsC           #3   1x DDS2-DAT Autoloader with 4/8GB storage capability                      per tape0                Dual SCSI-2 micro-DB50 connectors>                No tape magazine is included, but two types areA                     available: 4-tape and 10-tape (32GB and 80GB)   D      The price for the two dual-DAT drives (#1 and #2) is $150 each.  /      The price for the autoloader (#3) is $150.   3      Please send any questions that you might have.     %                               Thanks, )                               Kent Rankin    ------------------------------  % Date: Mon, 31 Jul 2000 11:02:47 +0200 = From: Arne =?iso-8859-1?Q?Vajh=F8j?= <arne.vajhoej@gtech.com> & Subject: Re: HyperSPI on Alpha dumping) Message-ID: <398540B7.D01F3DD5@gtech.com>    > The declarations: ' > static unsigned long PrevBinTime [2], # >                      BinTime [2], ' >                      DiffBinTime [2];  > float DeltaSeconds; / > const long cvtf_mode = LIB$K_DELTA_SECONDS_F;  >  > The variables at dump time:  > BinTime[0]:3314004834  > BinTime[1]:10411511  > PrevBinTime[0]:0 > PrevBinTime[1]:0 > DiffBinTime[0]:980962462 > DiffBinTime[1]:4284555784  > DeltaSeconds:Illegal floating  > TotalDeltaSeconds:0.0000000  > cvtf_mode:30  < > >    lib$sub_times (&BinTime, &PrevBinTime, &DiffBinTime);N > >    lib$cvtf_from_internal_time (&cvtf_mode, &DeltaSeconds, &DiffBinTime);= > > ; > > =3D=3D=3D>   PrevBinTime[0] =3D BinTime[0];  <=3D=3D=3D % > >    PrevBinTime[1] =3D BinTime[1]; + > >    TotalDeltaSeconds +=3D DeltaSeconds;  > >    if (Debug) F > >       fprintf (stdout, "DeltaSeconds: %f TotalDeltaSeconds: %f\n",4 > >                DeltaSeconds, TotalDeltaSeconds);   A couple of ideas:  4 1)  Make sure that it is not build with /FLOAT=IEEE.   2)  Try change from:  9     lib$sub_times (&BinTime, &PrevBinTime, &DiffBinTime); ;     lib$cvtf_from_internal_time (&cvtf_mode, &DeltaSeconds,  &DiffBinTime);       to:   6     lib$sub_times (BinTime, PrevBinTime, DiffBinTime);;     lib$cvtf_from_internal_time (&cvtf_mode, &DeltaSeconds, 
 DiffBinTime);    Arne   ------------------------------  % Date: Mon, 31 Jul 2000 07:32:28 -0400 2 From: "Richard B. Gilbert" <DRAGON@compuserve.com>& Subject: Re: HyperSPI on Alpha dumping7 Message-ID: <200007310732_MC2-AE13-B3F6@compuserve.com>             How would that help?????  J         All three arguments to lib$sub_times are to be passed by referenc= e!'  The original posting has that correct.   J         FWIW, the code is a mess!!!  I spent a couple of hours last night=  E adding include files and function declarations, trying to get a clean J compile.  There are still some pointer miss-match problems to be resolved= .   J         Porting VAX C code to DEC C can be almost as difficult as porting=   Unix code to VMS! = (The author obviously never compiled with /STANDARD=3DANSI89)   % Message text written by Arne Vajh=F8j  A couple of ideas: <snip> >2)  Try change from:   9     lib$sub_times (&BinTime, &PrevBinTime, &DiffBinTime); ;     lib$cvtf_from_internal_time (&cvtf_mode, &DeltaSeconds,  &DiffBinTime);       to:   6     lib$sub_times (BinTime, PrevBinTime, DiffBinTime);;     lib$cvtf_from_internal_time (&cvtf_mode, &DeltaSeconds, 
 DiffBinTime);  <    ------------------------------  % Date: Mon, 31 Jul 2000 14:30:39 +0200 = From: Arne =?iso-8859-1?Q?Vajh=F8j?= <arne.vajhoej@gtech.com> & Subject: Re: HyperSPI on Alpha dumping( Message-ID: <3985716F.B8A1070@gtech.com>   "Richard B. Gilbert" wrote:  > " >         How would that help????? > M >         All three arguments to lib$sub_times are to be passed by reference! ) >  The original posting has that correct.    ????  ) What is default passing for arrays in C ?   7 (the quadwords was declared as long [2] - not int64  !)    Arne   ------------------------------  # Date: Mon, 31 Jul 2000 12:48:43 GMT  From: sam@ratex.dk& Subject: Re: HyperSPI on Alpha dumping( Message-ID: <N.0731100.144817.77@honkey>   Hi Arne.A Thank you for the ideas that I tried. But as you may see from the G debugger screen capture below it gave the same result. (page width 132) J I think I'm starting to wake up now ! The debugger write that the exeption, happened at an earlier stage in the program. Kind regards Sam    * SRC: module HYPERSPI$AGENT -scroll-source***************************************************** REG *******************************s  13426:    /* calculate elapsed time */                                                       *R0 :00000000001583DC s  13427:    /**************************/                                                       *R1 :0000000000040780 s  13428:                                                                                       *R2 :00000000000100B0 s  13429:    lib$sub_times (BinTime, PrevBinTime, DiffBinTime);                                 *R3 :0000000000040000 s  13430:    lib$cvtf_from_internal_time (&cvtf_mode, &DeltaSeconds, DiffBinTime);              *R4 :0000000000020408 s ->3431:    PrevBinTime[0] = BinTime[0];                                                       *R5 :0000000000000001 s  13432:    PrevBinTime[1] = BinTime[1];                                                       *R6 :00000000000406E0 s  13433:    TotalDeltaSeconds += DeltaSeconds;                                                 *R7 :0000000000000029 s  13434:    if (Debug)                                                                         *R8 :00000000000204C0 s  13435:       fprintf (stdout, "DeltaSeconds: %f TotalDeltaSeconds: %f\n",                    *R9 :000000007FFAC410 s  13436:                DeltaSeconds, TotalDeltaSeconds);                                      *R10:000000007FFAD238 s * OUT -output**********************************************************************************R11:000000007FFCE3E0 s break at HYPERSPI$AGENT\main\%LINE 13069+80                                                   *R12:0000000000000000 s  13069: int main ()                                                                           *R13:FFFFFFFF86C3DCD0 s break on unhandled exception preceding HYPERSPI$AGENT\CollectSPI\%LINE 13431                  *R14:FFFFFFFF80E9D300 s  13431:    PrevBinTime[0] = BinTime[0];                                                       *R15:000000007B035990 s                                                                                               *R16:00000000001583DC s                                                                                               *R17:FFFFFFFFE8A8417A s                                                                                               *R18:00000000009EDE85  * PROMPT -error-program-prompt****************************************************************************************************** %SYSTEM-F-HPARITH, high performance arithmetic trap, Imask=00000000, Fmask=00080000, summary=02, PC=0000000000030F50, PS=0000001B N -SYSTEM-F-FLTINV, floating invalid operation, PC=0000000000030F50, PS=0000001B DBG>	            > > The declarations: ) > > static unsigned long PrevBinTime [2], % > >                      BinTime [2], ) > >                      DiffBinTime [2];  > > float DeltaSeconds; 1 > > const long cvtf_mode = LIB$K_DELTA_SECONDS_F;  > >  > > The variables at dump time:  > > BinTime[0]:3314004834  > > BinTime[1]:10411511  > > PrevBinTime[0]:0 > > PrevBinTime[1]:0 > > DiffBinTime[0]:980962462 > > DiffBinTime[1]:4284555784 ! > > DeltaSeconds:Illegal floating  > > TotalDeltaSeconds:0.0000000  > > cvtf_mode:30 > > > > >    lib$sub_times (&BinTime, &PrevBinTime, &DiffBinTime);P > > >    lib$cvtf_from_internal_time (&cvtf_mode, &DeltaSeconds, &DiffBinTime);= > > > = > > > =3D=3D=3D>   PrevBinTime[0] =3D BinTime[0];  <=3D=3D=3D ' > > >    PrevBinTime[1] =3D BinTime[1]; - > > >    TotalDeltaSeconds +=3D DeltaSeconds;  > > >    if (Debug) H > > >       fprintf (stdout, "DeltaSeconds: %f TotalDeltaSeconds: %f\n",6 > > >                DeltaSeconds, TotalDeltaSeconds); >  > A couple of ideas: > 6 > 1)  Make sure that it is not build with /FLOAT=IEEE. >  > 2)  Try change from: > ; >     lib$sub_times (&BinTime, &PrevBinTime, &DiffBinTime); = >     lib$cvtf_from_internal_time (&cvtf_mode, &DeltaSeconds,  > &DiffBinTime); > 	 >     to:  > 8 >     lib$sub_times (BinTime, PrevBinTime, DiffBinTime);= >     lib$cvtf_from_internal_time (&cvtf_mode, &DeltaSeconds,  > DiffBinTime);  >  > Arne   ------------------------------  % Date: Mon, 31 Jul 2000 13:19:50 +0100 - From: Tim Llewellyn <tim.llewellyn@bbc.co.uk> 7 Subject: Re: I/Os per second, how do you increase them? ) Message-ID: <39856EE6.FAECF374@bbc.co.uk>    "Mark D. Jilson" wrote:   H > Because MONITOR does not have a way to quickly sample a process to seeH > how big it's IOs are.  MONITOR does have a way to quickly see how manyG > Direct I/Os a process does.  Be careful here though as not all Direct J > I/Os are disk I/Os, for example some TCPIP I/Os are classified as DirectJ > I/Os by the TCPIP drivers.  VMS does have a way to collect I/O sizes andJ > on a per process basis, see IOPERFORM hook in the $QIO subsystem, but asG > many folks have found out it takes a bit of work to use the info that J > can be collected here.  FYI MONITOR DISK just samples the UCB fields forG > a disk to get the I/O rate and the queue length.  If there are issues H > with maintaining these 'meter' fields then the MONITOR data may not be
 > correct. >   F Thanks for the explaination, I guessed it must be something like that.   >  > Tim Llewellyn wrote:W > > What I am saying is, why does Monitor process/topdio for example not have an option * > > to report Mb/s rather than just I/O's. > >  >  > --H > Jilly   - Working from Home in the Chemung River Valley - Lockwood, NYL >         - jilly@clarityconnect.com                      - Brett Bodine fanL >         - Mark.Jilson@Compaq.com                        - since 1975 or so5 >         - http://www.jilly.baka.com               -    --6 Tim Llewellyn, OpenVMS Infrastructure, Remarcs Project0 MedAS at the BBC, Whiteladies Road, Bristol, UK.A Email tim.llewellyn@bbc.co.uk. Home tim.llewellyn@cableinet.co.uk   A I speak for myself only and my views in no way represent those of  MedAS or the BBC.    ------------------------------  % Date: Mon, 31 Jul 2000 13:34:18 -0700 ( From: "Russell Leathe" <russ@gordon.edu>& Subject: Invalid login at remote node?% Message-ID: <BFih5.561$KC.747@client>   C we migrated from a VAX cluster to a Alpha cluster over the weekend. 8 The cluster consists of a boot node (Alpha 1200) and two8 satellite nodes (also Alpha 1200's) running OpenVMS 7.2,# DecNet Phase IV, and Multinet 4.2a.   I When users from other VAXEN within the same network send mail via VAXmail  using the node::username9 syntax they are unable to send mail to the new boot node. C The error is  below.  I can send e-mail from the new cluster to the 
 other VAXEN .   I any ideas??...it's been a long weekend so I'm sure it's something minor I  overlooked.      MAIL> s  To:     snoopy::russ4 %MAIL-E-LOGLINK, error creating network link to nodeB SNOOPY-SYSTEM-F-INVLOGIN, login information invalid at remote node   ------------------------------  % Date: Mon, 31 Jul 2000 18:35:33 +0100 * From: "Richard Brodie" <R.Brodie@rl.ac.uk>* Subject: Re: Invalid login at remote node?+ Message-ID: <8m4dd8$o8i@newton.cc.rl.ac.uk>   S "Russell Leathe" <russ@gordon.edu> wrote in message news:BFih5.561$KC.747@client...   K > any ideas??...it's been a long weekend so I'm sure it's something minor I 
 > overlooked.   D The password the mail object uses is in the NCP database. Check what> MC NCP SHOW OBJECT MAIL gives as the password matches with theG UAF setting. You may need to clear an intrusion record with DELETE/INTR  as well.   ------------------------------  % Date: Mon, 31 Jul 2000 02:40:06 -0700 4 From: kilvon wu <kilvon_wuNOkiSPAM@yeah.net.invalid> Subject: IP config on Openvms 9 Message-ID: <0592bc38.31b3139b@usw-ex0108-062.remarq.com>   : Hi, i installed openvms 7.1-2 on alhaserver ds10, and want7 connect it with the LAN, so i use the ucx$config.com toS: config the ip address, there are two ethernet ports on the1 ds10 : ewa0 & ewb0, so i give them two ip addressS6 correspondingly.then i shutdown the system and reboot.  5 but i just cannot ping  the two ip address correctly,l5 always system said that "remote node is not currentlyp
 reachable"   what should i can to do?   many thanks for your help!     * Sent from AltaVista http://www.altavista.com Where you can also find related Web Pages, Images, Audios, Videos, News, and Shopping.  Smart is Beautiful2   ------------------------------  % Date: Mon, 31 Jul 2000 02:41:47 -0700 4 From: kilvon wu <kilvon_wuNOkiSPAM@yeah.net.invalid> Subject: ip config over openvms 9 Message-ID: <010bfd78.322417d8@usw-ex0108-062.remarq.com>e  : Hi, i installed openvms 7.1-2 on alhaserver ds10, and want7 connect it with the LAN, so i use the ucx$config.com tom: config the ip address, there are two ethernet ports on the1 ds10 : ewa0 & ewb0, so i give them two ip addressh6 correspondingly.then i shutdown the system and reboot.  5 but i just cannot ping  the two ip address correctly, 5 always system said that "remote node is not currentlya
 reachable"   what should i can to do?   many thanks for your help!     * Sent from AltaVista http://www.altavista.com Where you can also find related Web Pages, Images, Audios, Videos, News, and Shopping.  Smart is Beautiful-   ------------------------------  % Date: Mon, 31 Jul 2000 16:32:13 +0100 ' From: "Andy O" <oddster@totalise.co.uk>  Subject: Killing dead sessions) Message-ID: <39859aac$1@news.telinco.net>l  L Is there anyone who could describe how I can kill dead user processes on our open vms 7.2 system.J At present we can only open 1 session due to licence limits reached due to these processes.   Many thanks,   Andy   ------------------------------  # Date: Mon, 31 Jul 2000 15:36:37 GMTO= From: system@SendSpamHere.ORG (Brian Schenkenberger, VAXman-)s" Subject: Re: Killing dead sessions0 Message-ID: <009EDE6C.0D0448D4@SendSpamHere.ORG>  S In article <39859aac$1@news.telinco.net>, "Andy O" <oddster@totalise.co.uk> writes:IM >Is there anyone who could describe how I can kill dead user processes on our- >open vms 7.2 system.H  K $ STOP/ID=<pid>   where <pid> is the process id of process(es) in question.-    = Please extend my condolences to the family of this dead user.m   --O VAXman- OpenVMS APE certification number: AAA-0001     VAXman(at)TMESIS(dot)COMi   ------------------------------  % Date: Mon, 31 Jul 2000 13:27:47 +0100o- From: Tim Llewellyn <tim.llewellyn@bbc.co.uk>e) Subject: Re: Microvax 3100-10 and 20  $99f) Message-ID: <398570C3.EAC5CE8B@bbc.co.uk>-   Wayne Sewell wrote:-  R > v That's why there are separate newsgroups explicitly for buying and selling.  IL > think it's been proposed before, but a vmsnet newsgroup for advertisements@ > would be a good thing.  Hell, give Island their own newsgroup,P > vmsnet.island.ads.and.auctions.and.other.shit.  Unfortunately, they would post > both there *and* comp.os.vms.e >   L  Some, including myself, have censored newsfeeds that do not include vmsnet.V I havn't been able to get it since the restructured the news server over the new year.   --6 Tim Llewellyn, OpenVMS Infrastructure, Remarcs Project0 MedAS at the BBC, Whiteladies Road, Bristol, UK.A Email tim.llewellyn@bbc.co.uk. Home tim.llewellyn@cableinet.co.ukD  A I speak for myself only and my views in no way represent those ofS MedAS or the BBC.e   ------------------------------  % Date: Mon, 31 Jul 2000 14:57:00 +0200l6 From: Jan Robert Becker <becker@becker-consulting.com>& Subject: Re: MS IntelliMouse on Alpha?5 Message-ID: <3985779C.1DB2FC63@becker-consulting.com>   , This is a multi-part message in MIME format.& --------------25349E05FDE4DB96FB34D003, Content-Type: text/plain; charset=iso-8859-1+ Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printablen  / A three button mouse also works with MS Office.eJ Installing Logitech's cordless mouse on Alpha WNT4 doesn't seem to work, = but1J the middle wheele works well as a button using the standard mouse driver.=    " Shane.F.Smith@Healthnet.com wrote:  J > I have a Logitech cordless wheel mouse on my AlphaStation 2000, the whe= el2 > doesn't work but everything else seems to be OK. >2 > Shanel >e4 > Dirk Munk <munk@home.nl> on 07/28/2000 10:54:24 AM >  > To:   Info-VAX@Mvb.Saic.Com2 > cc:D > ) > Subject:  Re: MS IntelliMouse on Alpha?  >iJ > Don't know about the M$ mouse, but I'm using a Logitech Trackball Marbl= e35 > on my Alpha / VMS box. It works great, no problems.r >s > "Michael T. Davis" wrote:  > >TJ > >         Can the IntelliMouse (2-button with scroll wheel/button) be u= sed  > onJ > > an Alpha workstation?  Presumably, the wheel functionality would be l= ost, > buttJ > > could the wheel "button" still be used?  If so, how do the two standa= rd > mousemH > > buttons and the wheel button on the IntelliMouse map to the standard > threenJ > > buttons on the typical Alpha mouse?  Alternately, could a standard Al= pha J > > workstation mouse be used on a PC (under WinNT 4.0, for example), and=  if  > so, * > > would all three buttons be functional? > >c > > Thanks,s	 > >  Mike_ > > --G > >              Michael T. Davis              |    Systems Specialist:3	 > ChE,MSE = > >   E-mail: davism@er6.eng.ohio-state.edu    | Departmental  > Networking/ComputingC > >            -or- DAVISM+@osu.edu            |     The Ohio State  > UniversityE > > http://www.er6.eng.ohio-state.edu/~davism/ |     197 Watts, (614)B
 > 292-6928   ---e Jan Robert Becker, Ph.D. Becker Consulting AB Pepparbodav=E4gen 32 SE-194 54  Upplands V=E4sbyD Sweden Tel +46 (0)859 073 437 Fax +46 (0)707 113 476# Mailto:becker@becker-consulting.com   http://www.becker-consulting.com    & --------------25349E05FDE4DB96FB34D003- Content-Type: text/x-vcard; charset=us-ascii;s  name="becker.vcf" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bitS/ Content-Description: Card for Jan Robert Beckerh  Content-Disposition: attachment;  filename="becker.vcf"   begin:vcard  n:Becker;Jan Robertr tel;cell:+46 707 568 476 tel;fax:+46 707 113 476n tel;home:+46 859 082 057 tel;work:+46 859 073 437 x-mozilla-html:FALSE url:www.becker-consulting.comm$ org:Becker Consulting AB;Head OfficeB adr:;;Pepparbodavgen 32;Upplands Vsby;Stockholm;SE-194 54;Sweden version:2.1-+ email;internet:becker@becker-consulting.com: title:Presidentm fn:Jan Robert Becker	 end:vcardm  ( --------------25349E05FDE4DB96FB34D003--   ------------------------------  # Date: Mon, 31 Jul 2000 08:13:02 GMT ( From: Terry Kennedy <terry@gate.tmk.com>+ Subject: Re: OpenVMS on an Alphaserver 2100p' Message-ID: <FyJytq.HBv@spcuna.spc.edu>t  * Russell Smith <rsmith@arel.com.au> writes:N > %EXECINIT-F-LOADERR, error loading PROCESS_MANAGEMENT.EXE, status = 001380AC     1380AC translates as:r  > %LOADER-F-NO_SUCH_IMAGE, the requested image cannot be located  J   which isn't horribly useful. Is this a real DEC VMS distribution CD or a, copy? If a copy, can you try with a real CD?      Also, your "show config" says:  M >                                 dka500.5.0.1.0          SONY CD-ROM CDU-76S   M   Is this really a generic Sony disk, or is it a DEC disk? VMS really, really,L wants 512-byte/sector drives, not the more common 2048-byte/sector ones. You+ could try scrounging a DEC drive somewhere.   L   To the assorted other posters - his dka controller *is* an NCR, and he hasK his OS_TYPE and ECU set correctly enough to get into SYSINIT, so I bet it's-' a problem with the load media or drive.:  - 	Terry Kennedy             http://www.tmk.com=5         terry@tmk.com             Jersey City, NJ USAp   ------------------------------  # Date: Mon, 31 Jul 2000 09:02:37 GMTr% From: Alan Greig <agreig@my-deja.com>t2 Subject: Re: Patwhorks Performance and TCP NODELAY) Message-ID: <8m3fbc$fvc$1@nnrp1.deja.com>   9 In article <164b3d0c.a8389851@usw-ex0106-045.remarq.com>, B   Mike Price <mike.priceNOmiSPAM@littlewoods.co.uk.invalid> wrote:9 > I am a bit confused - I am running UCX 4.2 and the only-@ > parameter like NODELAY I can find is the NODELAY_ACK parameter: > but the last post seemed to say there is another NODELAY6 > parameter - is it different in UCX 5.0 up or what???B > sorry if I am being stupid but all I have handy until I get back. > to the office is HELP and a very old manual!  : The parameter set is NODELAY_ACK. Although in the original= suggestion for me to try it it was abbreviated NODELAY. Therea= is a socket setting NODELAY but I don't think this can be sets# globally fro UCX/TCPIP commad line.*   --
 Alan Greig    & Sent via Deja.com http://www.deja.com/ Before you buy.t   ------------------------------  # Date: Mon, 31 Jul 2000 07:28:48 GMTR. From: "Chuck Shipman" <cshipman@earthlink.net> Subject: Re: PGPi and OpenVMS E Message-ID: <QU9h5.25628$5N1.859471@newsread1.prod.itd.earthlink.net>    Mark, J There is definitely a need for a method of sending an encrypted email fromJ VMS to folks using P/C based EMAIL systems.  Preference would be somethingG that allows the recepient to enter a password and decryption would takelI place WITHOUT having to have any software residing on the recepients P/C.   G In the financial arena, I keep running into this requirement.  In fact, J there are at least three companies out there who are providing a "service"L that will do just that, at $50,000 plus for an NT server plus $0.20 to $0.30 per email!!R  
 Chuck ShipmanE SSI, LP3 (310) 962-7912   ------------------------------    Date: 31 Jul 2000 10:34:23 -05009 From: Kilgallen@eisner.decus.org.nospam (Larry Kilgallen)  Subject: Re: PGPi and OpenVMS + Message-ID: <QCYW7ebti$la@eisner.decus.org>0  v In article <QU9h5.25628$5N1.859471@newsread1.prod.itd.earthlink.net>, "Chuck Shipman" <cshipman@earthlink.net> writes:  L > There is definitely a need for a method of sending an encrypted email fromL > VMS to folks using P/C based EMAIL systems.  Preference would be somethingI > that allows the recepient to enter a password and decryption would takeEK > place WITHOUT having to have any software residing on the recepients P/C.   ? The current commercial version of PGP on Macintosh calls this a  Self Decrypting Archive.   ------------------------------  % Date: Mon, 31 Jul 2000 16:19:59 +0200n= From: Arne =?iso-8859-1?Q?Vajh=F8j?= <arne.vajhoej@gtech.com>1 Subject: Re: PGPi and OpenVMSF) Message-ID: <39858B0F.F2B66FD6@gtech.com>i   Chuck Shipman wrote:L > There is definitely a need for a method of sending an encrypted email fromL > VMS to folks using P/C based EMAIL systems.  Preference would be somethingI > that allows the recepient to enter a password and decryption would take K > place WITHOUT having to have any software residing on the recepients P/C.    ????  9 As far as I can see then there has to be some software or : some support for this in the software on the client PC's !  2 The decryption has be done somewhere by something.   Arne   ------------------------------  % Date: Mon, 31 Jul 2000 16:20:49 +0200e= From: Arne =?iso-8859-1?Q?Vajh=F8j?= <arne.vajhoej@gtech.com>a Subject: Re: PGPi and OpenVMS0) Message-ID: <39858B40.2122EF51@gtech.com>d   Larry Kilgallen wrote:x > In article <QU9h5.25628$5N1.859471@newsread1.prod.itd.earthlink.net>, "Chuck Shipman" <cshipman@earthlink.net> writes:N > > There is definitely a need for a method of sending an encrypted email fromN > > VMS to folks using P/C based EMAIL systems.  Preference would be somethingK > > that allows the recepient to enter a password and decryption would take M > > place WITHOUT having to have any software residing on the recepients P/C.  > A > The current commercial version of PGP on Macintosh calls this aa > Self Decrypting Archive.  C If it is something like a self-extracting file, then it sounds as af big potential security hole !r   Arne   ------------------------------  % Date: Mon, 31 Jul 2000 08:50:34 -06003% From: Dan O'Reilly <dano@process.com>3 Subject: Re: PGPi and OpenVMS1C Message-ID: <4.3.2.7.2.20000731084757.00b93410@pop.clsp.uswest.net>   + At 08:19 AM 7/31/2000, Arne Vajh=F8j wrote:, >Chuck Shipman wrote:lJ > > There is definitely a need for a method of sending an encrypted email=  from E > > VMS to folks using P/C based EMAIL systems.  Preference would be=T
  somethingK > > that allows the recepient to enter a password and decryption would takefI > > place WITHOUT having to have any software residing on the recepients=   P/C.B >i >????  > : >As far as I can see then there has to be some software or; >some support for this in the software on the client PC's !e >S3 >The decryption has be done somewhere by something.-  I The question I have here, is "what are you trying to accomplish?".  Is itlH the secure transfer of email messages over a nonsecure link from the VMSJ system to the PC, or is it actual encrypted email messages, such that onlyE one person with a key on the PC can actually read them (i.e., they're $ stored in encrypted form on the PC)?  K The former has a solution (at least, it will very soon), the latter doesn'ts so far as I'm aware.   ------I +-------------------------------+---------------------------------------+iI | Dan O'Reilly                  |                                       |II | Principal Engineer            |  "Those are my principles. If you     |yI | Process Software              |   don't like them I have others."     | I | http://www.process.com        |                    -- Groucho Marx    | I +-------------------------------+---------------------------------------+e   ------------------------------    Date: 31 Jul 2000 12:17:41 -05009 From: Kilgallen@eisner.decus.org.nospam (Larry Kilgallen), Subject: Re: PGPi and OpenVMS + Message-ID: <LolpVMyWMGr7@eisner.decus.org>   i In article <39858B40.2122EF51@gtech.com>, Arne =?iso-8859-1?Q?Vajh=F8j?= <arne.vajhoej@gtech.com> writes:e > Larry Kilgallen wrote:y >> In article <QU9h5.25628$5N1.859471@newsread1.prod.itd.earthlink.net>, "Chuck Shipman" <cshipman@earthlink.net> writes: O >> > There is definitely a need for a method of sending an encrypted email from O >> > VMS to folks using P/C based EMAIL systems.  Preference would be something L >> > that allows the recepient to enter a password and decryption would takeN >> > place WITHOUT having to have any software residing on the recepients P/C. >> wB >> The current commercial version of PGP on Macintosh calls this a >> Self Decrypting Archive.A > E > If it is something like a self-extracting file, then it sounds as a1 > big potential security hole !a  1 That depends on how you specify "something like".o  F Certainly the data is not in the Self Decrypting Archive in cleartext.E You have to enter a password to decrypt the data when you execute the D Self Decrypting Archive.  Of course the data is ill-protected if theC password is a weak one, but that is no different from VMS.  The PGPeC implementation has a progress bar to indicate "password quality" ass> the originator enters the password, so there is good feedback.   ------------------------------  # Date: Mon, 31 Jul 2000 16:32:39 GMTc. From: "Chuck Shipman" <cshipman@earthlink.net> Subject: Re: PGPi and OpenVMS E Message-ID: <HShh5.26288$5N1.878667@newsread1.prod.itd.earthlink.net>y   Arne,MK What my clients have been looking for is a self-extracting executable which J contains the "encryption" algorithm, the password and the original message' within a single file e.g. "attachment".   F Case in point would be some of the image/scan programs that generate aJ self-extracting program.  Upon receipt, one simple runs the program and itE regenerates the original scanned document, but there is no "software" H residing on the recipients machine to allow the extraction of the image.  ! The primary needs are as follows:t  I 1. Provide a level of security that would provide some assurance that theI% message arrives without modification.eF 2. Provide a level of confidentiality such that it would take a highlyI trained and motivated individual more than a week to break the algorithm.:L (After a week, the information contained within the types of messages we areJ talking about would be pretty much useless). The kinds of documents we areG talking about would be statements, bills, etc. in which the informationcK 3. Allow the message to be read on any P/C as long as the recipient has thee@ password AND, do not incur the burden of maintaining software on) client/customer i.e. "recipient" systems.s  E Hope this clarifies my original message as I tend to "fog" things up.e  
 Chuck Shipmanl! Southwest Systems Integrators, LPi (310) 962-7912 cshipman@earthlink.net   ------------------------------  % Date: Mon, 31 Jul 2000 16:55:06 +0200t2 From: "Dr. Otto Titze" <titze@ikp.tu-darmstadt.de> Subject: Resource hash table3 Message-ID: <3985934A.B04A7649@ikp.tu-darmstadt.de>-   Hi,-  * what does that mean when I get the message6 "resource hash table dense 121% full"  (VMS 7.2, AMDS)   Which parameters are concerned?o   Regards  Otto g,  -------------------------------------------, | Dr. Otto Titze, Kernphysik TUD           |, | Schlossgartenstr. 9, D-64289 Darmstadt   |, | titze@ikp.tu-darmstadt.de                |, | Tel: +49(6151)16-2916,FAX:16-4321        |,  -------------------------------------------   ------------------------------    Date: 31 Jul 2000 17:04:43 +0200G From: Jan Vorbrueggen <jan@mailhost.neuroinformatik.ruhr-uni-bochum.de>t  Subject: Re: Resource hash tableH Message-ID: <y4vgxmjq7o.fsf@mailhost.neuroinformatik.ruhr-uni-bochum.de>  4 "Dr. Otto Titze" <titze@ikp.tu-darmstadt.de> writes:  , > what does that mean when I get the message8 > "resource hash table dense 121% full"  (VMS 7.2, AMDS)  H Lock manager resource names are kept on a hash table in a way similar toK logical names to facilitate and speed lookup. I would think this means that-I there are on average 1.21 entries per hash table entry. Depending on yourwG tradeoffs, the number of active resource names and the amount of memoryw# available, that may be good or bad.n  ! > Which parameters are concerned?s  K There used to be one called RESHASHTBL or similar. Dunno whether it's still K active - I dimly remember this was supposed to be remastered automatically,V% but mayve that was for logical names.s   	Jan   ------------------------------  % Date: Mon, 31 Jul 2000 16:04:49 +0200w> From: "Jean-Franois Marchal" <jean-francois.marchal@x9000.fr># Subject: searching DCL cgi examples 3 Message-ID: <8m40u8$2e1d$1@s2.feed.news.oleane.net>y   Bonjour  tous ...  - I'm looking for DCL cgi programming examples.)  Altavista has'nt return me much.   Cordialement Jean-Franois Marchala X9000 - LYON (FR)m   ------------------------------  % Date: Mon, 31 Jul 2000 16:17:27 +0200i= From: Arne =?iso-8859-1?Q?Vajh=F8j?= <arne.vajhoej@gtech.com>:' Subject: Re: searching DCL cgi examplese( Message-ID: <39858A77.B818092@gtech.com>   "Jean-Franois Marchal" wrote:/ > I'm looking for DCL cgi programming examples.o" > Altavista has'nt return me much.   There are links to some at:   , http://www.levitte.org/~ava/cgiscripts.htmlx  5 (unfortunatetly it does not tell the source language,o$ so you may have to dig around a bit)   Arne   ------------------------------   Date: 31 Jul 2000 14:43:10 GMT2 From: hoffman@xdelta.zko.dec.nospam (Hoff Hoffman)' Subject: Re: searching DCL cgi examples,6 Message-ID: <8m439u$5e5$1@mailint03.im.hou.compaq.com>  t In article <8m40u8$2e1d$1@s2.feed.news.oleane.net>, "Jean-Franois Marchal" <jean-francois.marchal@x9000.fr> writes:. :I'm looking for DCL cgi programming examples.  5   Check the OpenVMS FAQ for some DCL CGI information.u  D   Please see the examples posted over at the OpenVMS Ask The Wizard $   area.  Topics 558, 2952, and 3700.  E   The second edition of _Writing Real Programs in DCL_ has a chapter  @   and associated reference material on the topic of DCL and CGI.  D   Examples of DCL CGI have been posted here in comp.os.vms, as well.  N  --------------------------- pure personal opinion ---------------------------L    Hoff (Stephen) Hoffman   OpenVMS Engineering   hoffman#xdelta.zko.dec.com   ------------------------------  % Date: Mon, 31 Jul 2000 17:16:41 +0200u> From: "Jean-Franois Marchal" <jean-francois.marchal@x9000.fr>' Subject: Re: searching DCL cgi examples=3 Message-ID: <8m4554$2gp7$1@s2.feed.news.oleane.net>g  5 As I read your answers, I realize I forgot to mention.E I'm using PURVEYOR WEBserver ... which is quit different from OSU ...o    7 "Arne Vajhj" <arne.vajhoej@gtech.com> wrote in messages" news:39858A77.B818092@gtech.com...  > "Jean-Franois Marchal" wrote:1 > > I'm looking for DCL cgi programming examples. $ > > Altavista has'nt return me much. >  > There are links to some at:o >t. > http://www.levitte.org/~ava/cgiscripts.htmlx >b7 > (unfortunatetly it does not tell the source language,e& > so you may have to dig around a bit) >T > Arne   ------------------------------   Date: 31 Jul 2000 15:25:01 GMT2 From: hoffman@xdelta.zko.dec.nospam (Hoff Hoffman)' Subject: Re: searching DCL cgi examples,6 Message-ID: <8m45od$5qa$1@mailint03.im.hou.compaq.com>  t In article <8m4554$2gp7$1@s2.feed.news.oleane.net>, "Jean-Franois Marchal" <jean-francois.marchal@x9000.fr> writes:6 :As I read your answers, I realize I forgot to mentionF :I'm using PURVEYOR WEBserver ... which is quit different from OSU ...  C   CGI displays HTML to whichever webserver happens to be running...   K   As most webservers can obviously deal with HMTL, you generally only have  I   to concern yourself with the particular HTML extensions (avoid these if E   you can) or HTML standard (follow this if you can) you plan to use.C  J   Systems requiring lower overhead and/or higher performance will want to H   look at other approaches for the CGI servers (DCL isn't known for its G   raw performance, of course) or for using one of the various availablet?   (and sometimes rather webserver-specific) webserver CGI APIs.n  H   [HTML and CGI would not have spread like it did if it were difficult.]  N  --------------------------- pure personal opinion ---------------------------L    Hoff (Stephen) Hoffman   OpenVMS Engineering   hoffman#xdelta.zko.dec.com   ------------------------------  # Date: Mon, 31 Jul 2000 07:21:27 GMTB. From: "Chuck Shipman" <cshipman@earthlink.net> Subject: Re: Shareable images E Message-ID: <XN9h5.25608$5N1.858296@newsread1.prod.itd.earthlink.net>7   Steve,E I may be coming in a little late but it appears that you may have two:	 problems:c  K 1. You SYSGEN parameters are not set correctly/an Autogen has not been run.U  G > Parameter VIRTUALPAGECNT's value is low (32800) it should be at leaste 35000rF > %NET$STARTUP-F-NOREQSYSGEN, SYSGEN parameters not at required valuesF >         Please see Installation and Configuration Guide for Required Values  G Verify that your MODPARAMS.DAT file has the following values (if values>H already exist (without the MIN_ qualifier), and are higher, then add theI MIN_.)  If not, edit the MODPARAMS.DAT file, insert the values below, and-K @SYS$UPDATE:AUTOGEN.COM.  Also, don't be afraid to run AUTOGEN whenever yout install software!L  L MIN_GBLSECTIONS        = 400     - By the way, guess which parameters affect your installed+ MIN_GBLPAGES              = 60000 - Images?o! MIN_GBLPAGFIL              = 4096e  MIN_CLISYMTBL              = 500 MIN_VIRTUALPAGES     = 35,000   J 2. It also appears that after peforming the install, you have not executed  the NET$CONFIGURE.COM procedure.  E > %DECnet-W-NOOPEN, could not open SYS$SYSROOT:[SYSEXE]NET$CONFIG.DATc  L After you correct these two things, your DECnet should be ok.  At which time you can startup LAT.  G Once LAT is up and running, presuming there have been no changes to theCK "Factory issued" command files, the VAX will broadcast it's availability ase a LAT Service node.:  I Lastly, to make my life easier, I usually setup an ENABLED SERVICE on the K terminal server so that from LATCP on the VAX,  I can do a Show Services to3/ determine if the Terminal Server is on the air.g   ------------------------------  % Date: Mon, 31 Jul 2000 12:31:40 +0000-$ From: Steve.Spires@yellowpages.co.uk* Subject: RE: Stirrings in the undergrowth?/ Message-ID: <0025692D.0045EFC8.00@quegw01.btyp>l  K I guess the point of my posting was - I had no idea there was a competitionaN until AFTER it had finished, and I frequent the OpenVMS pages on a daily basisI usually. It didn't seem to have been made obvious, even to those in C.O.VsL although I suspect those who entered thought the less who knew about it, the more chance of winning...k   :-)t  H What was required was a BIG notice on any of the site front-pages, IMHO.   Steve Spires VMS System Manager BT/Yellow Pagesi        B carl@gergl1.gerg.tamu.edu (Carl Perkins) on 28/07/2000 07:42:00 PM    To:        Info-VAX@Mvb.Saic.Com+ cc:         (bcc: Steve Spires/YellowPages) L From:      carl@gergl1.gerg.tamu.edu (Carl Perkins), 28 July 2000, 7:42 p.m.  ! RE: Stirrings in the undergrowth?         N In article <00256929.004E1CC1.00@quegw01.btyp>, Steve.Spires@yellowpages.co.uk	 writes... > }Contact:   Tel: 3063  -  VSSG, 1st Floor, Bridge Street Plaza }tD }I wonder the same thing - I have been unable to find  a link to the competition./ }All I have found is the winners and the rules.  }eB }Still, should I expect anything more? Perhaps the competition is; }r2 }If you find the competition page, you win a DS10! }a
 }Steve Spires   D I havn't looked, but this is probably the contest that went with the: GS80/160/320 announcement which ended a month (more?) ago.  9 You can tell it has ended by the existance of a winner...l   --- Carl  2 }system@SendSpamHere.ORG on 25/07/2000 07:37:00 PM } ! }To:        Info-VAX@Mvb.Saic.Com,, }cc:         (bcc: Steve Spires/YellowPages)< }From:      system@SendSpamHere.ORG, 25 July 2000, 7:37 p.m. }n" }RE: Stirrings in the undergrowth?K }In article <910612C07BCAD1119AF40000F86AF0D8052845A4@kaoexc4.kao.dec.com>,g. }"Main, Kerry" <Kerry.Main@compaq.com> writes: }>Shane, }>M }>Not sure how many folks got hardcopies of the recent Compaq magazine calledfK }>Inform, but the last page was a full page ad from Cognos on its web baseds }>products.s }>K }>Focus of the full page ad was OpenVMS, but they do mention that they alsoe }>support Tru64 UNIX and NT. }>; }>The big url on the bottom for additional information was:g! }>http://www.cognos.com/seeoffer/r }>! }>Soft copy version is online at:o }>http://www.compaq.com/inFORM/  }>L }>By the way, not sure if anyone has seen the latest "ePostcard" for OpenVMS }>... check it out at: }>. }><http://www.openvms.compaq.com/e-postcard3/> }:K }This link led me to a large .GIF with a "supposedly animated" tour link. AaI }click of that link popped up a window about "AlphaServer Contest: win an  }AlphaServer DS10".f }sK }What a fucked up web site!  The "back to the contest" link shows me a list L }of winners (BTW, congrats to Mr. Malmberg!).  So where is this 10 questionsJ }contest form?  For Christ sake, why doesn't Comapq make its freaking siteL }work for/with Netscape on VMS!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!! }t  }Where can I enter this contest? }h }--rP }VAXman- OpenVMS APE certification number: AAA-0001     VAXman(at)TMESIS(dot)COM   ------------------------------  % Date: Mon, 31 Jul 2000 11:03:36 -0400h$ From: Scott Brooks <SBROOKS@psu.edu>* Subject: Re: Subtracting Dates Time in DCL1 Message-ID: <s9855d0f.084@hmcpsugwia.hmc.psu.edu>:  G Thanks for your answers to my Subtracting Dates in DCL question.  The =C! following gives me what I needed.e  5 >>> kuhrt@eisner.decus.org 07/28/2000 10:51:57 PM >>>f; > $! P1 is the input date.  See if it's older than 14 days.b > $!/ > $ if f$cvtime( p1) .lts. f$cvtime( "-14-")=20  > $ then=20h, > $    write sys$output "older than 14 days"	 > $ endif   
 Thanks again,U   Scottt   ------------------------------  # Date: Mon, 31 Jul 2000 14:27:05 GMTo) From: Art Rice <arice.NOSPAM@ue.itug.org>t Subject: Re: Such Crap8 Message-ID: <9t2bosc51a9dl8na0gs0bhdmckotrgb7ea@4ax.com>  4 On Sat, 29 Jul 2000 14:47:55 GMT, "Terry C. Shannon" <shannon@world.std.com> wrote:   >-. >"Paul Sture" <paul@sture.ch> wrote in message& >news:VA.00000094.1f000681@sture.ch...K >> In article <y4em4ejqar.fsf@mailhost.neuroinformatik.ruhr-uni-bochum.de>,0 >Jan >> Vorbrueggen wrote:0L >> > From: Jan Vorbrueggen <jan@mailhost.neuroinformatik.ruhr-uni-bochum.de> >> > Newsgroups: comp.os.vms >> > Subject: Re: Such Crapi% >> > Date: 28 Jul 2000 16:13:48 +0200b >> >7 >> > "Terry C. Shannon" <shannon@world.std.com> writes:t >> >J >> > > > > [...] ISE (International Securities Exchange) is a NEW Customer >[...]K >> > > > I do hope they forced CPQ to sign a source escrow agreement before  >buying.L >> > > Oh, don't worry. They get Michael Capellas' first born son (if he has >one)tG >> > > as escrow. Also 12 of the buildings on the Houston campus. And as >buy-back of >> > > the Maynard Mill. >> >K >> > That would be quite useless if Compaq goes out of business, or decidesa >to drop >> > VMS at some future time.y >> >J >> > > Now what the hell else do you in your infinite wisdom believe a new >OpenVMS >> > > buyer ought to get? >> >K >> > Exactly what I said: a source code escrow agreement, paid for by theirsJ >> > own money, as a form of insurance. I _am_ presuming you know what the >word G >> > "escrow" means. Given your wording above about MC, I am note sure,-	 >however.  >> >I >> It was over 20 years ago that I learnt what "escrow" means in terms ofi
 >software.K >> It was not only one of the standard questions we asked all our potential H >> software suppliers, but a specific requirement, right from our parent	 >company.  >>K >> Later, when working for a software house, I introduced the idea to them,- >andL >> suddenly they realised why the blank looks of incomprehension at the word >during23 >> sales demos scared off major clients so quickly.  >rL >Come to think of it, this practice was relatively common in the US 20 yearsJ >ago; but haven't heard of it being used of late. Heck, if it would ensureI >that OpenVMS remained out of the evil clutches of CA, it would be a Good  >Thing.i > M >Then too, recall the technology sharing agreement between DEC and Microsoft.iJ >uSoft theoretically has access to all there is to know about OpenVMS. (Of4 >course, they have the purloined Mica code as well!) >n/ >Good thing they don't seem inclined to use it!o   Idon't think they know how.r   >e   -- n
 Art Rice   **a# Special Data Processing CorporationW& --------------------------------------' All opinions expressed are mine and do c% not reflect the views of my employer.i   ------------------------------  % Date: Mon, 31 Jul 2000 16:27:45 +0100l- From: Tim Llewellyn <tim.llewellyn@bbc.co.uk>1 Subject: Re: Such Crap) Message-ID: <39859AF1.5431C5F1@bbc.co.uk>f   "David J. Dachtera" wrote:   >h >a > I would add to that: >pJ > "If the product or company is ever sold or transferred such that anotherE > party achieves partial or complete control of the product, customer I > shall be entitled to a full and complete refund, with no witholding, of G > any and all funds paid to acquire the product and any and all updatesuI > and upgrades, and any all funds paid to company for support contracts."  >-I > That should be a sufficiently bitter "poison pill" to keep the likes of  > CA away forever. >aI > Companies truly commited to the best interest of their customers should5F > include in any contracts selling or transferring their product(s) toJ > another party clauses indicating that any increases in prices or chargesG > for the product or its support in excess of a specific percentage pernJ > unit of time would be cause for the nullification of the contract making > such sale or transfer. >e > Quite the utopian, aren't I? >t  J  Yup, you won't be getting any multi-million dollar executive payoffs, for+ sure, David, with an attitude like that :-)h --6 Tim Llewellyn, OpenVMS Infrastructure, Remarcs Project0 MedAS at the BBC, Whiteladies Road, Bristol, UK.A Email tim.llewellyn@bbc.co.uk. Home tim.llewellyn@cableinet.co.uke  A I speak for myself only and my views in no way represent those ofi MedAS or the BBC.w   ------------------------------  % Date: Mon, 31 Jul 2000 12:02:47 +0100eB From: Andrew Harrison SUNUK Consultancy <andrew.nospam@uk.sun.com>/ Subject: Re: The URL that Compaq forgot to send * Message-ID: <39855CD7.80B246B2@uk.sun.com>   "Main, Kerry" wrote:   > Bill,s >eN > >> "Early compiler"?  Just what new compiler features would be involved that6 > weren't necessary for previous SMP configurations?<< >oB > NUMA stuff for one thing. Should likely have also added "More OSL > enhancements to take better advantage of NUMA and Wildfire HW architecture > ..""  G I doubt the compiler would make that much difference, the major changes6H will allready be in there for the current 21264A CPU's, Compaq publishedD SPECint and SPECfp numbers using them back in february for the ES40.  L I also doubt that you will see major changes to the compilers to enhance theH WildFires overall throughout though you may well see changes to the OS'sI to do things like local on-node caching of frequently accessed pages etc.a  O If the Sequent experience is anything to go by the big performance improvements   O for things like TPC-C will come from running multiple instances of Oracle (OPS)t  F but in a single instance of the OS. This approach has the advantage of
 minimisingN the effects of local/remote memory access issues but at the expense of capital costs and cost of ownership.   >0< > Bottom line is that if one looks at the following results:; > http://www.ideasinternational.com/benchmark/tpc/tpcc.htmls >-L > Then, ask the following question - "how many of these systems are in their > first month of FCS?" >a  9 Well of the most recent numbers published the IBM S80 onee< was published within a month of the systems being available.  < Now as we all know there are degrees of availability but you7 could buy and get S80's delivered the month before they  published the result.t   > L > It takes time for new systems compilers, OS enhancement and tweaking to be > optimized for a new platform.o >e  B While this would be valid if WildFire was a new system in fact itsF a 2-3 year old system that got delivered rather late. The support chipB and manufacturing issues that dogged WildFires developement shouldC not have had that much impact on the compiler and OS developers whoh5 in effect got 2 years of additional development time.-   Regards- Andrew Harrison  Enterprise IT Architect    ------------------------------  % Date: Mon, 31 Jul 2000 18:33:23 +0100a  From: steven.reece@quintiles.com/ Subject: Re: The URL that Compaq forgot to sendo> Message-ID: <8025692D.0060A02F.00@qedilc01.qedi.quintiles.com>  ! Andrew Harrison quoted/commented:  >>>dB > NUMA stuff for one thing. Should likely have also added "More OSL > enhancements to take better advantage of NUMA and Wildfire HW architecture > .."?  G I doubt the compiler would make that much difference, the major changespH will allready be in there for the current 21264A CPU's, Compaq publishedD SPECint and SPECfp numbers using them back in february for the ES40.  L I also doubt that you will see major changes to the compilers to enhance theH WildFires overall throughout though you may well see changes to the OS'sL to do things like local on-node caching of frequently accessed pages etc.<<<  P I assume this should be local to cpu caching since one VMS galaxy instance couldF be in three different boxes of a GS320.  Besides, why is NUMA still soL wonderful?  Uniform memory access is what is required, not nearly uniform or non-uniform.   Andrew later went onE >>>While this would be valid if WildFire was a new system in fact itsrF a 2-3 year old system that got delivered rather late. The support chipB and manufacturing issues that dogged WildFires developement shouldC not have had that much impact on the compiler and OS developers whoo8 in effect got 2 years of additional development time.<<<  I But if the systems were late to market they were probably also later than N planned to the developers who may or may not have had all that they needed for2 their work during the two years prior to delivery.  M I thought you'd put your can opener away Andrew and gone on to something else * besides Spam with FUD.  I now know better.   ------------------------------  % Date: Mon, 31 Jul 2000 13:59:36 +0200m( From: "Web2.lyon" <Web2.lyon@wanadoo.fr> Subject: Re: Updating RMS Files4* Message-ID: <39856A27.FC6BC0FF@wanadoo.fr>  I +...or (without RMS) little harder to programming block mode IO access...v  	 Example ?i   Thanks   ------------------------------  % Date: Mon, 31 Jul 2000 12:33:28 +0200e$ From: "T de Wet" <thys@it.sun.ac.za>- Subject: Re: URGENT: VMS keyboard on SUN etc! / Message-ID: <8m3klr$mva$1@news.adamastor.ac.za>l  G Why not give WinQVT (Terminal Emulator) as go?  We're using it from ourtK networked PC unto the Aplha's.  You can configure your PC style keyboard to  simulatea VT keyboard?= Check out their website: http://www.frontiernet.net/~qpcsoft/-* It works for us with approx. 250+ users...  ) Thys de Wet in Stellenbosch, South African  " Zane H. Healy wrote in message ...5 >Christopher Smith <chriss@mufasa.pubserv.com> wrote:lJ >> Well, this won't -- of course -- help you plug a keyboard directly intoJ >> this port... but the sun serial port is exactly the same as a macintosh4 >> serial port, generally. (round, mini-din type...) >iG >Huh?!?!  What vintage Sun?  I've got a Sparc 2 at home with DB25 StyleiK >connectors, and I'm pretty sure that any of the newer systems I've used ats >work have the same. >  > Zane   ------------------------------  # Date: Mon, 31 Jul 2000 15:05:14 GMTT From: paul_hallam@hotmail.com = Subject: VAX to ALPHA PASCAL enumerated struct packing errorso) Message-ID: <8m44j5$v2v$1@nnrp1.deja.com>d  1 Please help as I'm getting really confused here -t   VAX to ALPHA PASCAL conversion.(  G An enumerated structure does NOT apparently conform to PACKED structure  definitions.  / All objects/images compiled with "/debug/noopt"c  C A packed record is defined as an enumerated type of multiple packed  record definitions in PASCAL.-< At the end of this document is a short extract of the record definitions.  F I have a pointer, NODE_COMMAND_DATA_PTR which is defined as below (the( type definition is included at the end).4 	node_command_data_ptr : XMCD_node_command_type_ptr;  D The records in this type are all defined as PACKED but under AXP VMSE V7.1-2, Pascal V57-073 I can't always retrieve the records as PACKED;, e.g.  - The following structure is readable correcltyy   E NODE_COMMAND_DATA_PTR^# !MCD_CONTROL\NODE_COMMAND_DATA_PTR^s/ !    XMCD_NC_COMMAND:    XMCD_NC_MCD_VERSION_IDa9 !    Variant Record with Tag Value XMCD_NC_MCD_VERSION_IDa# !        XMCD_NC_MCD_VERSION_ID_RECR" !            XMCD_STATUS:        1$ !            XMCD_VERSION_NO:    731 Step    " *********************   BUT   ****  G The following structure, although the data appears to be in the correct(? locations for a packed structure, reads the record as UNPACKED.i   E NODE_COMMAND_DATA_PTR^# !MCD_CONTROL\NODE_COMMAND_DATA_PTR^i0 !    XMCD_NC_COMMAND:    XMCD_NC_LINK_PARAMETERS: !    Variant Record with Tag Value XMCD_NC_LINK_PARAMETERS$ !        XMCD_NC_LINK_PARAMETERS_REC" !            XMCD_STATUS:        0+ !            XMCD_LINK_NO:       1073676032B) !            XMCD_LINK_PARAMETERS_BITMAP:_; [XMCD_LD_HANDLER_CODE_BIT..XMCD_LD_RDC_PACED_ADD_COUNT_BIT]5! !            XMCD_LINK_PARAMETERS 3 !%DEBUG-I-ENUMRANGE, enumeration value out of range,3 !                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 E/BIN/LONG2 !17535002:       0111110000111111 1111111011111111     RECORD DEFINITIONSD ====================================================================)         XMCD_NC_link_status_type        =n         PACKED RECORD .           XMCD_status               : INTEGER;.           XMCD_link_no              : INTEGER;=           XMCD_link_status          : XMCD_link_status_type ; .           XMCD_link_time            : $UQUAD ;         END;  )         XMCD_NC_link_parameters_type    =t         PACKED RECORDi0           XMCD_status                 : INTEGER;0           XMCD_link_no                : INTEGER;G           XMCD_link_parameters_bitmap : XMCD_link_parameters_set_type ;m7           XMCD_link_parameters        : XMCD_LD_entry ;          END;  )         XMCD_NC_mcd_version_id_type     =l         PACKED RECORDc.           XMCD_status               : INTEGER;-           XMCD_version_no           : $UWORD;r         END;    )         XMCD_node_command_type          =>         PACKED RECORDg=             CASE XMCD_NC_command : [BYTE] XMCD_NC_cmd_type OF,)             XMCD_NC_session_init      : (eD XMCD_NC_session_init_rec      :          XMCD_NC_session_init_type);)             XMCD_NC_change_s_state    : ( = XMCD_NC_change_s_state_rec    : XMCD_NC_change_s_state_type);i)             XMCD_NC_session_term      : (p; XMCD_NC_session_term_rec      : XMCD_NC_session_term_type);b)             XMCD_NC_ML_config         : (i8 XMCD_NC_ML_config_rec         : XMCD_NC_ML_config_type);)             XMCD_NC_ML_statistics     : (e< XMCD_NC_ML_statistics_rec     : XMCD_NC_ML_statistics_type);)             XMCD_NC_rdc_statistics    : ( = XMCD_NC_rdc_statistics_rec    : XMCD_NC_rdc_statistics_type);l)             XMCD_NC_db_statistics     : (R< XMCD_NC_db_statistics_rec     : XMCD_NC_db_statistics_type);)             XMCD_NC_system_parameters : (F@ XMCD_NC_system_parameters_rec : XMCD_NC_system_parameters_type);)             XMCD_NC_system_summary    : (u= XMCD_NC_system_summary_rec    : XMCD_NC_system_summary_type);c)             XMCD_NC_db_reset          : (u9 XMCD_NC_db_reset_rec          : XMCD_NC_db_reset_type ) ; )             XMCD_NC_verify_record     : (t= XMCD_NC_verify_record_rec     : XMCD_NC_verify_record_type) ; )             XMCD_NC_oper_info         : (n8 XMCD_NC_oper_info_rec         : XMCD_NC_oper_info_type);)             XMCD_NC_link_mode_change  : (t? XMCD_NC_link_mode_change_rec  : XMCD_NC_link_mode_change_type);e)             XMCD_NC_link_status       : (S: XMCD_NC_link_status_rec       : XMCD_NC_link_status_type);)             XMCD_NC_link_parameters   : (a> XMCD_NC_link_parameters_rec   : XMCD_NC_link_parameters_type);)             XMCD_NC_mcd_version_id    : (S= XMCD_NC_mcd_version_id_rec    : XMCD_NC_mcd_version_id_type);d)             XMCD_NC_new_db_rebuild    : (n= XMCD_NC_new_db_rebuild_rec    : XMCD_NC_new_db_rebuild_type);))             XMCD_NC_dump_events       : (f: XMCD_NC_dump_events_rec       : XMCD_NC_dump_events_type);)             XMCD_NC_link_statistics   : (!? XMCD_NC_link_statistics_rec   : XMCD_NC_link_statistics_type );i)             XMCD_NC_db_link_stats     : (c= XMCD_NC_db_link_stats_rec     : XMCD_NC_db_link_stats_type );-)             XMCD_NC_logger_new_file   : (3? XMCD_NC_logger_new_file_rec   : XMCD_NC_logger_file_rec_type ); )             XMCD_NC_stats_new_file    : ( > XMCD_NC_stats_new_file_rec    : XMCD_NC_stats_file_rec_type );)             XMCD_NC_Start_UST         : (L: XMCD_NC_Start_UST_Rec         : XMCD_NC_Start_UST_Type ) ;)             XMCD_NC_Stop_UST          : (79 XMCD_NC_Stop_UST_Rec          : XMCD_NC_Stop_UST_Type ) ;n)             XMCD_NC_Auto_Rebuild_Req  : (.A XMCD_NC_Auto_Rebuild_Rec      : XMCD_NC_Auto_Rebuild_Req_Type ) ;r)             XMCD_NC_Db_Reset_Time     : (UA XMCD_NC_db_reset_time_rec     : XMCD_NC_db_reset_time_rec_type );0)             XMCD_NC_trace_request     : (P= XMCD_NC_trace_request_rec     : XMCD_NC_trace_request_type );1)             XMCD_NC_db_han_crash      : (t< XMCD_NC_db_han_crash_rec      : XMCD_NC_db_han_crash_type );)             XMCD_NC_rdx_timer         : (@9 XMCD_NC_rdx_timer_rec         : XMCD_NC_rdx_timer_type );e         END;  C         XMCD_node_command_ptr_type      = ^XMCD_node_command_type ;  { pointer to above type }0    & Sent via Deja.com http://www.deja.com/ Before you buy.h   ------------------------------  % Date: Mon, 31 Jul 2000 10:53:18 +0200i= From: Arne =?iso-8859-1?Q?Vajh=F8j?= <arne.vajhoej@gtech.com>S Subject: Re: VMS CD create/copyr) Message-ID: <39853E7E.29E8A324@gtech.com>t   FAZEKAS Mihaly wrote:)) > How can i create VMS readable CD in PC?o  + Create a CD image on VMS. 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