1 INFO-VAX	Mon, 01 May 2000	Volume 2000 : Issue 243       Contents:F $ mc ess$lastcp sh clients---%SYSTEM-F-EXQUOTA, process quota exceededJ Re: $ mc ess$lastcp sh clients---%SYSTEM-F-EXQUOTA, process quota exceededI RE: $ mc ess$lastcp sh clients---%SYSTEM-F-EXQUOTA,process quota	exceeded I RE: $ mc ess$lastcp sh clients---%SYSTEM-F-EXQUOTA,process quota	exceeded  Re: And they wonder why !! Re: And they wonder why !!% Re: Compaq still seen as a PC company % Re: Compaq still seen as a PC company % Re: Compaq still seen as a PC company   Disk I/O Statistics Don't Add Up! Re: Dropping DECnet..don't do it! & Re: Dual Processor/program runs twice?& Re: Dual Processor/program runs twice?! FS: 2x DEC 3000-300lx ; $100 each % Re: FS: 2x DEC 3000-300lx ; $100 each  Re: Help with VMS Workstation , Re: Infoserver CD-R (was: Verify of Backups), Re: Infoserver CD-R (was: Verify of Backups), Re: Infoserver CD-R (was: Verify of Backups)) More Examples of "VMS?  Compaq Does VMS?" ' Re: Need Hardware token solution needed  new cluster license prices Re: new cluster license prices( Product News at a Glance, April 26, 2000, Re: Product News at a Glance, April 26, 2000, Re: Product News at a Glance, April 26, 2000 Reading VMS disks  Re: Reading VMS disks 1 Re: Setting local event flag from another process  strange TFTP problem strange TFTP problem Re: strange TFTP problem Re: strange TFTP problem& Re: The Movie "Breaking Point" + PDP11& Re: The Movie "Breaking Point" + PDP11 Re: Time Sync'ing a VMS server UCX ftp crash on VMS 7.2 Re: UCX ftp crash on VMS 7.2 Re: VXT2000 question Re: VXT2000 question  F ----------------------------------------------------------------------   Date: 1 May 2000 09:09:46 GMT * From: helbig@astro.rug.nl (Phillip Helbig)O Subject: $ mc ess$lastcp sh clients---%SYSTEM-F-EXQUOTA, process quota exceeded . Message-ID: <8ejhkq$47b$1@info.service.rug.nl>  & OK, which quota do I need to increase?  G I hereby repeat the often-mentioned gripe that it would be nice if the  0 error message told one WHICH quota was exceeded.  G There has to be a better way than just increasing a) all quotas and b)  0 by some magic amount until the problem is fixed.  H What puzzles me even more is why this error message occurs in the first - place.  Does SHOW CLIENTS need so much quota?   G As you know, I read the group daily and often contribute.  Still, as I  H would like to get this solved soon, an emailed response (in addition to # posting here) would be appreciated.      Phillip Helbig     --M Kapteyn Instituut                    Email .............. helbig@astro.rug.nl M Rijksuniversiteit Groningen          Tel. ................... +31 50 363 4067 M Postbus 800                          Fax .................... +31 50 363 6100 M NL-9700 AV Groningen                 Web ... http://www.astro.rug.nl/~helbig/   M ******************************** formerly at ********************************   M this will still work for a while -----> Email ......... p.helbig@jb.man.ac.uk M University of Manchester                Tel. ... +44 1477 571 321 (ext. 2635) M Jodrell Bank Observatory                Fax ................ +44 1477 571 618 M Macclesfield                            Telex ................ 36149 JODREL G M UK-Cheshire SK11 9DL                    Web ... http://www.jb.man.ac.uk/~pjh/   H My opinions are not necessarily those of either of the above institutes.  N <A HREF=" http://gladia.astro.rug.nl:8000/helbig/hire/hire.html ">HIRE ME!</A>   ------------------------------   Date: 1 MAY 2000 17:41:02 GMT 6 From: greenwoodde@feda01.fed.ornl.gov (Dave Greenwood)S Subject: Re: $ mc ess$lastcp sh clients---%SYSTEM-F-EXQUOTA, process quota exceeded 1 Message-ID: <1MAY00.17410220@feda01.fed.ornl.gov>   + helbig@astro.rug.nl (Phillip Helbig) wrote: ( > OK, which quota do I need to increase? >   I > I hereby repeat the often-mentioned gripe that it would be nice if the  2 > error message told one WHICH quota was exceeded. >   I > There has to be a better way than just increasing a) all quotas and b)  2 > by some magic amount until the problem is fixed. >   J > What puzzles me even more is why this error message occurs in the first / > place.  Does SHOW CLIENTS need so much quota?  >   I > As you know, I read the group daily and often contribute.  Still, as I  J > would like to get this solved soon, an emailed response (in addition to % > posting here) would be appreciated.   D I have a C program (originally written by CJL) that will display theC quotas of another process.  I've used it several times to determine D which quota was being exceeded.  Let me know if you want it and I'll email it to you.   Dave --------------9 Dave Greenwood                Email: Greenwoodde@ORNL.GOV H Oak Ridge National Lab        %STD-W-DISCLAIMER, I only speak for myself   ------------------------------  % Date: Mon, 01 May 2000 11:47:39 -0300 1 From: "Boyle, Darren" <boyledj@bankofbermuda.com> R Subject: RE: $ mc ess$lastcp sh clients---%SYSTEM-F-EXQUOTA,process quota	exceededK Message-ID: <F150836441C5D311A11700508B6FF01A835775@bdant024.bda.bobda.com>   I Give the user EXQUOTA privilege then use DEC AMDS to find out which quota 
 was exceeded.  - Darren   > ----------6 > From: 	helbig@astro.rug.nl[SMTP:helbig@astro.rug.nl]  > Reply To: 	helbig@astro.rug.nl% > Sent: 	Monday, May 01, 2000 6:09 AM  > To: 	Info-VAX@Mvb.Saic.ComC > Subject: 	$ mc ess$lastcp sh clients---%SYSTEM-F-EXQUOTA, process  > quota exceeded > ( > OK, which quota do I need to increase? > I > I hereby repeat the often-mentioned gripe that it would be nice if the  2 > error message told one WHICH quota was exceeded. > I > There has to be a better way than just increasing a) all quotas and b)  2 > by some magic amount until the problem is fixed. > J > What puzzles me even more is why this error message occurs in the first / > place.  Does SHOW CLIENTS need so much quota?  > I > As you know, I read the group daily and often contribute.  Still, as I  J > would like to get this solved soon, an emailed response (in addition to % > posting here) would be appreciated.  >  >  > Phillip Helbig >  >  > --; > Kapteyn Instituut                    Email ..............  > helbig@astro.rug.nl J > Rijksuniversiteit Groningen          Tel. ................... +31 50 363 > 4067J > Postbus 800                          Fax .................... +31 50 363 > 6100. > NL-9700 AV Groningen                 Web ..." > http://www.astro.rug.nl/~helbig/ > . > ******************************** formerly at" > ******************************** > 9 > this will still work for a while -----> Email .........  > p.helbig@jb.man.ac.uk I > University of Manchester                Tel. ... +44 1477 571 321 (ext.  > 2635) K > Jodrell Bank Observatory                Fax ................ +44 1477 571  > 618 F > Macclesfield                            Telex ................ 36149
 > JODREL G1 > UK-Cheshire SK11 9DL                    Web ...  > http://www.jb.man.ac.uk/~pjh/  > J > My opinions are not necessarily those of either of the above institutes. > H > <A HREF=" http://gladia.astro.rug.nl:8000/helbig/hire/hire.html ">HIRE	 > ME!</A>  >     F **********************************************************************C This message and any files transmitted with it are confidential and J may be privileged and/or subject to the provisions of privacy legislation.M They are intended solely for the use of the individual or entity to whom they L are addressed. If the reader of this message is not the intended recipient, B please notify the sender immediately and then delete this message.I You are notified that reliance on, disclosure of, distribution or copying  of this message is prohibited.   Bank of Bermuda F **********************************************************************   ------------------------------  " Date: Mon, 1 May 2000 17:42:56 GMT9 From: Kilgallen@eisner.decus.org.nospam (Larry Kilgallen) R Subject: RE: $ mc ess$lastcp sh clients---%SYSTEM-F-EXQUOTA,process quota	exceeded+ Message-ID: <WZYWswXit2Ap@eisner.decus.org>    In article <F150836441C5D311A11700508B6FF01A835775@bdant024.bda.bobda.com>, "Boyle, Darren" <boyledj@bankofbermuda.com> writes: K > Give the user EXQUOTA privilege then use DEC AMDS to find out which quota  > was exceeded.   > If EXQUOTA helps, then you know it was a matter of disk quota,6 since that is the only quota to which EXQUOTA applies.   ------------------------------   Date: 1 May 2000 15:10:18 GMT 2 From: hoffman@xdelta.zko.dec.nospam (Hoff Hoffman)# Subject: Re: And they wonder why !! 6 Message-ID: <8ek6oq$6ok$1@mailint03.im.hou.compaq.com>  a In article <390A55AA.746B445@vl.videotron.ca>, JF Mezei <jfmezei.spamnot@vl.videotron.ca> writes: ! :It's the markteting that counts.   I   It is also the target audience for your marketing comments that counts.   H   If you have complaints on Compaq or on Compaq OpenVMS Marketing (or inK   this case, on Alpha marketing), I have posted the email addresses of the  H   senior management chain -- if you missed that posting, I have appendedK   the list below, and I will be adding the list to the next edition of the     OpenVMS FAQ.  N  --------------------------- pure personal opinion ---------------------------L    Hoff (Stephen) Hoffman   OpenVMS Engineering   hoffman#xdelta.zko.dec.com   	--   H   The following list is the senior management chain for Compaq OpenVMS, >   and is in descending order of office, starting with the CEO:  $     Michael Capellas     CEO, Compaq&     Michael.Capellas <-at-> Compaq.Com  >     Enrico Pesatori      VP, Enterprise Solutions and Services%     Enrico.Pesatori <-at-> Compaq.Com   >     Bill Heil            VP, Business Critical Server Division     Bill.Heil <-at-> Compaq.Com   B     Don Harbert          VP, High Performance Server Business Unit!     Don.Harbert <-at-> Compaq.Com   $     Richard Marcello     VP, OpenVMS&     Richard.Marcello <-at-> Compaq.Com   ------------------------------  % Date: Mon, 01 May 2000 13:39:26 -0400 0 From: JF Mezei <jfmezei.spamnot@vl.videotron.ca># Subject: Re: And they wonder why !! / Message-ID: <390DC14D.D4838834@vl.videotron.ca>    Hoff Hoffman wrote: J >   If you have complaints on Compaq or on Compaq OpenVMS Marketing (or inL >   this case, on Alpha marketing), I have posted the email addresses of the >   senior management chain   % Here is an informal question for you:   N Do you have a feeling that the folks high up need more pressure from customers: and if they do get the more pressure that they would act ?  I Is there someone in that group who would want to increase VMS's marketing K presence but lack support, and for whom getting customer letters would be a 0 great asset to convince the others to push VMS ?  N Or are these guys set one one track and getting pesky customer letters is justE a chore because they have to find a diplomatic way to respond to it ?    ------------------------------   Date: 1 May 2000 15:23:38 GMT 2 From: mathog@seqaxp.bio.caltech.edu (David Mathog). Subject: Re: Compaq still seen as a PC company, Message-ID: <8ek7hq$5cm@gap.cco.caltech.edu>  N In article <VA.00000020.00bf0ddf@sture.ch>, Paul Sture <paul@sture.ch> writes:N >In article <8ec2ts$gdk$1@fizban.fizban.pprd.abbott.com>, Dave Gudewicz wrote:4 >> From: "Dave Gudewicz" <david.gudewicz@abbott.com> >> Newsgroups: comp.os.vms1 >> Subject: Re: Compaq still seen as a PC company ( >> Date: Fri, 28 Apr 2000 08:19:00 -0500 >>  O >> OTOH.  Here's a link that does "suggest" that Compaq may be shortly changing  >> its tune.  We'll see. >>   >>  O >> http://www.cnetinvestor.com/newsitem-bloomberg.asp?symbol=85547212&Ticker=CP  >> Q >>   > M >Given yesterday's other Big Announcement, methinks it might have been timed   >nicely. Here's hoping.    Quote:  I   We have to stretch the brand,'' Compaq Chief Executive Michael Capellas C   told reporters after the company's annual shareholders meeting in 8   Houston. ''We must move the PC name into the high end.  J Roughly speaking, that's like Hyundai buying Rolls Royce and then desiringD to stretch the Hyundai brand into the luxury space.  Problem is, theD original brand has associated with it a reputation for an unreliableG product, which nobody in the new target market is going to value. Don't K know about you folks, but when I think "Compaq PC" I think "average to poor K product with average support."  Ie, hardly what I want to put into the data J center!  This isn't from firsthand usage of Compaq PCs but is based on theK PC magazine user's survey's which have consistently turned up that result.   See, for instance:    C   http://www.zdnet.com/pcmag/stories/reviews/0,6755,2278817,00.html   G Compaq PCs score no higher than locally built clones for Office use and K lower than clones for Home use.  (Which speaks volumes about the quality of I the Q's home machines.) Perhaps MC has not quite figured out that Dell is K eating Compaq's lunch not only because of direct sales, but because they're B selling a better product.  Elsewhere in the Cnet article it says:   O    Compaq has lost market share in commercial PCs to rival Dell Computer Corp.  D    in recent months.  Corporate PC sales fell 7 percent in the firstG    quarter to $2.9 billion on an operating loss of $19 million,  from a $    profit of $24 million a year ago.  H So, as usual, MC seems to have it backwards.  Rather than trying to do aH "have data center reliability on your desk" sort or campaign, where theyJ try to spin the reputation for quality of the upper end machines down intoK the PC market, they're trying to spin the (worthless) brand identity upward F into the data center market.  Dell could stretch their brand identity J upward this way, but Compaq can't.  I wonder how many sales they are goingG to lose because the guy they're pitching to had spent 3 hours the night F before on the phone with Q service trying to get his kid's home CompaqG machine working.  On second thought, maybe not that many, because those 9 folks probably know better than to buy a Compaq home PC!     Regards,   David Mathog mathog@seqaxp.bio.caltech.edu ? Manager, sequence analysis facility, biology division, Caltech     ------------------------------  " Date: Mon, 1 May 2000 16:29:03 GMT0 From: "Terry C. Shannon" <shannon@world.std.com>. Subject: Re: Compaq still seen as a PC company& Message-ID: <Ftw2nA.FLM@world.std.com>  ? "David Mathog" <mathog@seqaxp.bio.caltech.edu> wrote in message & news:8ek7hq$5cm@gap.cco.caltech.edu...H > In article <VA.00000020.00bf0ddf@sture.ch>, Paul Sture <paul@sture.ch> writes: I > >In article <8ec2ts$gdk$1@fizban.fizban.pprd.abbott.com>, Dave Gudewicz  wrote:6 > >> From: "Dave Gudewicz" <david.gudewicz@abbott.com> > >> Newsgroups: comp.os.vms3 > >> Subject: Re: Compaq still seen as a PC company * > >> Date: Fri, 28 Apr 2000 08:19:00 -0500 > >>H > >> OTOH.  Here's a link that does "suggest" that Compaq may be shortly changing > >> its tune.  We'll see. > >> > >> > >>L http://www.cnetinvestor.com/newsitem-bloomberg.asp?symbol=85547212&Ticker=CP > >> Q > >> > > H > >Given yesterday's other Big Announcement, methinks it might have been timed  > >nicely. Here's hoping.  >  > Quote: > K >   We have to stretch the brand,'' Compaq Chief Executive Michael Capellas E >   told reporters after the company's annual shareholders meeting in : >   Houston. ''We must move the PC name into the high end. > L > Roughly speaking, that's like Hyundai buying Rolls Royce and then desiringF > to stretch the Hyundai brand into the luxury space.  Problem is, theF > original brand has associated with it a reputation for an unreliableI > product, which nobody in the new target market is going to value. Don't H > know about you folks, but when I think "Compaq PC" I think "average to poor > product with average support  J I was at the meeting with Capellas. I believe what he meant is that CompaqK has more name recognition in the PC space than in the enterprise, even tho' J 52 percent of 1FQ00 revenue was enterprise-derived. The issue is educatingF the market (and especially the beancounters) that CPQ is an enterpriseH vendor without diminishing the perception of leadership in the PC space.  K I share your personal opinion about Compaq PCs (I have a Presario from Hell H running the OS from Hell) but apparently Compaq's image in this space is) better than my experience would indicate.M   ------------------------------  # Date: Mon, 01 May 2000 16:48:40 GMTT" From: Art Rice <arice@ue.itug.org>. Subject: Re: Compaq still seen as a PC company8 Message-ID: <n3drgsc212t1vmvh3cc3p7nfslq65i53lo@4ax.com>  @ On 1 May 2000 15:23:38 GMT, mathog@seqaxp.bio.caltech.edu (David Mathog) wrote:  O >In article <VA.00000020.00bf0ddf@sture.ch>, Paul Sture <paul@sture.ch> writes:sO >>In article <8ec2ts$gdk$1@fizban.fizban.pprd.abbott.com>, Dave Gudewicz wrote: 5 >>> From: "Dave Gudewicz" <david.gudewicz@abbott.com>o >>> Newsgroups: comp.os.vmse2 >>> Subject: Re: Compaq still seen as a PC company) >>> Date: Fri, 28 Apr 2000 08:19:00 -05000 >>> P >>> OTOH.  Here's a link that does "suggest" that Compaq may be shortly changing >>> its tune.  We'll see.  >>>  >>> P >>> http://www.cnetinvestor.com/newsitem-bloomberg.asp?symbol=85547212&Ticker=CP >>> Qq >>>  >>N >>Given yesterday's other Big Announcement, methinks it might have been timed  >>nicely. Here's hoping. >d >Quote:a > J >  We have to stretch the brand,'' Compaq Chief Executive Michael CapellasD >  told reporters after the company's annual shareholders meeting in9 >  Houston. ''We must move the PC name into the high end.c > K >Roughly speaking, that's like Hyundai buying Rolls Royce and then desiringtE >to stretch the Hyundai brand into the luxury space.  Problem is, theiE >original brand has associated with it a reputation for an unreliablesH >product, which nobody in the new target market is going to value. Don'tL >know about you folks, but when I think "Compaq PC" I think "average to poorL >product with average support."  Ie, hardly what I want to put into the dataK >center!  This isn't from firsthand usage of Compaq PCs but is based on theoL >PC magazine user's survey's which have consistently turned up that result.  >See, for instance:  > D >  http://www.zdnet.com/pcmag/stories/reviews/0,6755,2278817,00.html > H >Compaq PCs score no higher than locally built clones for Office use andL >lower than clones for Home use.  (Which speaks volumes about the quality ofJ >the Q's home machines.) Perhaps MC has not quite figured out that Dell isL >eating Compaq's lunch not only because of direct sales, but because they'reC >selling a better product.  Elsewhere in the Cnet article it says:   >oP >   Compaq has lost market share in commercial PCs to rival Dell Computer Corp. E >   in recent months.  Corporate PC sales fell 7 percent in the firstuH >   quarter to $2.9 billion on an operating loss of $19 million,  from a% >   profit of $24 million a year ago.. >.I >So, as usual, MC seems to have it backwards.  Rather than trying to do a.I >"have data center reliability on your desk" sort or campaign, where theyhK >try to spin the reputation for quality of the upper end machines down into L >the PC market, they're trying to spin the (worthless) brand identity upwardG >into the data center market.  Dell could stretch their brand identity  K >upward this way, but Compaq can't.  I wonder how many sales they are going H >to lose because the guy they're pitching to had spent 3 hours the nightG >before on the phone with Q service trying to get his kid's home Compaq9H >machine working.  On second thought, maybe not that many, because those: >folks probably know better than to buy a Compaq home PC!    > 	 >Regards,t >/
 >David Mathogu >mathog@seqaxp.bio.caltech.edu@ >Manager, sequence analysis facility, biology division, Caltech   B Actually, I have a Presario and the one time in the last year thatC there was a problem, Compaq support fixed it in under five minutes.eA Of course, for the average home user who has no idea what goes onvD under the hood of a PC may have a far different experience with tech support.   -- e
 Art Rice   *# # Special Data Processing Corporationp& --------------------------------------' All opinions expressed are mine and do e% not reflect the views of my employer.y   ------------------------------  # Date: Mon, 01 May 2000 15:08:53 GMTl From: DRHarrold@earthlink.net ) Subject: Disk I/O Statistics Don't Add Up ) Message-ID: <8ek6lp$8gc$1@nnrp1.deja.com>s  E We are looking at some of the data captured from Monitor and graphing  the results for review.e  E One of the things we have noticed is a couple of shadow sets report asE certain number of I/O's, but the member volumes I/O count doesn't addCC up to that number.  We are expecting them to add up and most of the C disks on the system do.  Specifically, we're looking at the averaget numbers.  E For this example, I've picked the system disk, DSA0:.  The shadow seteE is made up of 2 disks served off of separate HSJ50 controllers.  This.D data is being captured off of a GS60E running VMS V7.1-2.  This is a  cluster of 3 8400s and 2 GS60Es.  3                             OpenVMS Monitor Utilitym1                               DISK I/O STATISTICSjG                                  on node HNAC         From: 27-APR-2000e 00:00:11G                                     SUMMARY           To:   27-APR-2000  00:15:11  9 I/O Operation Rate                         CUR        AVEu MIN        MAX  9 DSA0:                  AXPVMS71         104.06      86.87S 34.06     127.80  3                             OpenVMS Monitor Utilitya1                               DISK I/O STATISTICSCG                                  on node HNAC         From: 27-APR-2000  00:00:11G                                     SUMMARY           To:   27-APR-2000a 00:15:11  9 I/O Operation Rate                         CUR        AVEs MIN        MAX   [...]w9 $1$DUA0:      (EEYORE) AXPVMS71           3.06       0.52i 0.00      15.66q [...]n  3                             OpenVMS Monitor Utilitye1                               DISK I/O STATISTICSoG                                  on node HNAC         From: 27-APR-2000q 00:00:11G                                     SUMMARY           To:   27-APR-2000I 00:15:11  9 I/O Operation Rate                         CUR        AVEi MIN        MAX [...] 9 $1$DUA24:     (HUEY)   AXPVMS71           3.06       0.51  0.00      15.66t     So the questions are:a  E 1.)  Is it right to assume that these numbers should add up?  If not,  why & do most of the other disks not add up?  6 2.)  If they are supposed to add up, why are they not?     Thanks,    Dave Harrold  H ======================================================================== Dave Harrold Sr. Software Systems Engineer* Aurora Health Care 3031 W. Montana Street Milwaukee, WI 53234w   (414) 647-6204    & Sent via Deja.com http://www.deja.com/ Before you buy.    ------------------------------  " Date: Mon, 1 May 2000 12:59:09 GMT9 From: Kilgallen@eisner.decus.org.nospam (Larry Kilgallen).* Subject: Re: Dropping DECnet..don't do it!+ Message-ID: <hA9$4xEJCU+U@eisner.decus.org>.  ] In article <8ebl2v$bt3@usenet.pa.dec.com>, carlini@true.lkg.dec.com (Antonio Carlini) writes:jc > In article <38FF3714.8B567F7F@vl.videotron.ca>, JF Mezei <jfmezei.spamnot@vl.videotron.ca> wrote: O >>NCL could then simply become an emulator that would translate NCL commands to<O >>NCP commands to provide compatibility with those already running NCL scripts.* > O > Phase V uses CMIP to manage stuff so although you could improve the existing iJ > NCP emulator somewhat you cannot actually manage Phase V using Phase IV ! > concepts - the two don't match.i  D For one thing, Phase IV has a documented callable interface/protocol3 for management (called NICE), and Phase V does not.h   ------------------------------  % Date: Mon, 01 May 2000 10:29:05 -0700e) From: C J Considine <conx@connectnet.com>o/ Subject: Re: Dual Processor/program runs twice? . Message-ID: <390DBEE1.8C723CE7@connectnet.com>  ; why not use the dcl command "$ set process/name=foo" in the-= command file that runs the process.  If a second process runsr4 the same command it will give an error you can trap.   Daniel Bohner wrote: >  > Greetings, > J > Recently we migrated our VAXen to Alphas and have experienced one littleB > glitch with one of our systems - and perhaps you folks can help. > L > Because our Alphas are dual processor - we believe a process can be kickedF > on and run twice - once on one processor and before it is complete a4 > duplicate process be up and running on the second. > M > What switch - either during compile or after - do I have to throw that will-@ > keep the same process from running simultaneously on different" > processors(within the same box). >  > ?? any takers ?? >  > Daniel Bohner- > Analyst/PublicSafety > ADA County Sheriff's Officet > Boise, ID  83704 > isdan@ac1.co.ada.id.us > dbohner@uswest.net   ------------------------------   Date: 1 May 2000 17:45:21 GMTt2 From: hoffman@xdelta.zko.dec.nospam (Hoff Hoffman)/ Subject: Re: Dual Processor/program runs twice? 6 Message-ID: <8ekfrh$a3r$1@mailint03.im.hou.compaq.com>  Z In article <390DBEE1.8C723CE7@connectnet.com>, C J Considine <conx@connectnet.com> writes:  7   re: preventing the same job from running in parallel.b       (SMP or uniprocessor.)  < :why not use the dcl command "$ set process/name=foo" in the> :command file that runs the process.  If a second process runs5 :the same command it will give an error you can trap.   3   This only works from within the same UIC group...i  D   There was also a relevent interlocking fix put in recently, as it F   was occasionally possible to get two processes with the same processD   name in the same UIC group due to the lack of interlocking within %   the process name change processing.n  N  --------------------------- pure personal opinion ---------------------------L    Hoff (Stephen) Hoffman   OpenVMS Engineering   hoffman#xdelta.zko.dec.com   ------------------------------  % Date: Mon, 01 May 2000 09:43:21 -0400r$ From: Kent Rankin <krankin@usit.net>* Subject: FS: 2x DEC 3000-300lx ; $100 each( Message-ID: <390D89F9.890DDB67@usit.net>  4 	The units are located in Knoxville, TN, 37922-3449.  G 	They are bare, but a keyboard(lk401) and mouse(vs-xxx-aa) are includedr
 with each.  / 	Please send any questions that you might have.o     					Thankyou, 					Kent Rankin   ------------------------------   Date: 1 May 2000 14:26:48 GMTc* From: helbig@astro.rug.nl (Phillip Helbig). Subject: Re: FS: 2x DEC 3000-300lx ; $100 each. Message-ID: <8ek478$al3$1@info.service.rug.nl>  G In article <390D89F9.890DDB67@usit.net>, Kent Rankin <krankin@usit.net>o writes:   6 > 	The units are located in Knoxville, TN, 37922-3449. > I > 	They are bare, but a keyboard(lk401) and mouse(vs-xxx-aa) are includeds > with each.  D How bare is bare?  No disk?  No memory?  No CD-ROM?  No floppy?  No  graphics card?  A Wow, an ALPHA for $100.  I remember when these had a new price ofn/ $10,000 or whatever.  Must be getting old.  :-|    ------------------------------  % Date: Mon, 01 May 2000 09:50:42 +0200-- From: Jouk Jansen <JOUKJ@hrem.stm.tudelft.nl> & Subject: Re: Help with VMS Workstation3 Message-ID: <390D5372.70CA6989@hrem.stm.tudelft.nl>m   cvwdmail@netscape.net wrote: > D > I have an Alpha Workstation running VMS 7.1. Does anyone know of aC > way to diplay Windows Standard .JPG's or .GIF's or .BMP's? I needpB > to display Bit Map Images on several VAX and Alpha Workstations,B > however, I can't find any software on the Workstations that will
 > do this. >  I use two programs9              XV : http://www.trilon.com/xv/downloads.htmle               or6              ImageMagick : http://www.imagemagick.org/                    Jouk  --    > Ceterum censeo tertium millennium post Christum natum anno MMI incepturum esse   P >------------------------------------------------------------------------------<  
   Jouk Jansenl 		 r   joukj@hrem.stm.tudelft.nle  E   Technische Universiteit Delft        tttttttttt  uu     uu  ddddddd F   Nationaal centrum voor HREM          tttttttttt  uu     uu  dd    ddG   Rotterdamseweg 137                       tt      uu     uu  dd     dd G   2628 AL Delft                            tt      uu     uu  dd     ddHF   Nederland                                tt      uu     uu  dd    ddE   tel. 31-15-2781536                       tt       uuuuuuu   dddddddd  P >------------------------------------------------------------------------------<   ------------------------------  # Date: Mon, 01 May 2000 09:24:14 GMTo From: dgordon@compaq.com5 Subject: Re: Infoserver CD-R (was: Verify of Backups)t+ Message-ID: <390cfd90.17167122@news.mv.net>   D On 21 Apr 2000 16:42:22 -0500, rjordan@Mars.mcs.net (Richard Jordan) wrote:    r0 >From: "Richard L. Dyson" <rick-dyson@uiowa.edu> >r ><rick-dyson@uiowa.edu> wrote: >oJ >> 	The other method uses an Infoserver 1000 (which I recent picked up for >> a few hundred $).I >> If you upgrade it to the last release of the software (v3.5a, I think)  >> there is a RECORDI >> command you can use to make an ODS-2 format CD-R disc *IFF* you have ae >> recorder on their >> specific list.  e  ? The CD-R function is an additional license.  The actual code is @ present in all versions of the software since the capability wasC introduced, but the function key enables it.  CD-R was supported onf@ nfoServer 1000 and 150 systems.  InfoServer 100 systems were notD supported (but were known to work, more often then not.)  If you gotE the CD-R functionality with the unit you bought, it's because the keyn4 was already loaded in NVRAM from the previous owner.   >  >Rick,E >     last I heard you had to buy an Infoserver that already had the  E >scribe or CDR option enabled or find some way to get the license and E >enabling software.  Unless something has changed, the V3.5a software C >by itself will not allow CDR operations unless those functions aree! >specifically enabled by license.y > H >     Anyone know if the license for CDR (and tape operations) are stillF >available, or cost for same?  My InfoTower (with IS1000) has disk and >VXT functions enabled.   & I believe they have been discontinued.   > F >     Also, does anyone know if its possible to safely run an RZ26L orE >equivalent disk (one only) in an infotower with a couple CDs and oneCD >CDR drive?  I have no docs for the box so don't know its power and F >cooling capabilities (though I'd bet againt running 7200RPM drives in >it!).  F The InfoServer Scribe package consisted of an RZ26L, a CD-R and one CDD drive in the tower cab.  I wouldn't add 7200 RPM drives, but I would@ think you could safely add more hard and CD drives up to the boxA capacity even though we never qualified more than the above tower8 configs with hard drives.p   Doug Gordon  Former InfoServer DeveloperF   ------------------------------  # Date: Mon, 01 May 2000 14:49:41 GMTs* From: Gord Coulman <gcoulman@ccinet.ab.ca>5 Subject: Re: Infoserver CD-R (was: Verify of Backups)5, Message-ID: <390D9222.54AFAABB@ccinet.ab.ca>  P Where could a person get the final release of the Infoserver software?  Also theQ "function key" to enable the CDR?  My Infoserver 150 did have the "write to tape"=N function on it, is "write to CD" also an extra?  I assume that since the wholeD thing is discontinued, the cost of these items should be almost nil.  J Is there any way a Windoze box can communicate with an Infoserver directly (without Pathworks?).t   Gord.m   dgordon@compaq.com wrote:e  F > On 21 Apr 2000 16:42:22 -0500, rjordan@Mars.mcs.net (Richard Jordan) > wrote: >a >g2 > >From: "Richard L. Dyson" <rick-dyson@uiowa.edu> > >g  > ><rick-dyson@uiowa.edu> wrote: > >hP > >>      The other method uses an Infoserver 1000 (which I recent picked up for > >> a few hundred $).K > >> If you upgrade it to the last release of the software (v3.5a, I think)  > >> there is a RECORDK > >> command you can use to make an ODS-2 format CD-R disc *IFF* you have as > >> recorder on their > >> specific list.  >eA > The CD-R function is an additional license.  The actual code iseB > present in all versions of the software since the capability wasE > introduced, but the function key enables it.  CD-R was supported onsB > nfoServer 1000 and 150 systems.  InfoServer 100 systems were notF > supported (but were known to work, more often then not.)  If you gotG > the CD-R functionality with the unit you bought, it's because the keyn6 > was already loaded in NVRAM from the previous owner. >p > >s > >Rick,F > >     last I heard you had to buy an Infoserver that already had theG > >scribe or CDR option enabled or find some way to get the license and G > >enabling software.  Unless something has changed, the V3.5a softwarevE > >by itself will not allow CDR operations unless those functions areq# > >specifically enabled by license.r > > J > >     Anyone know if the license for CDR (and tape operations) are stillH > >available, or cost for same?  My InfoTower (with IS1000) has disk and > >VXT functions enabled.D > ( > I believe they have been discontinued. >e > >uH > >     Also, does anyone know if its possible to safely run an RZ26L orG > >equivalent disk (one only) in an infotower with a couple CDs and oneaE > >CDR drive?  I have no docs for the box so don't know its power and'H > >cooling capabilities (though I'd bet againt running 7200RPM drives in > >it!). >4H > The InfoServer Scribe package consisted of an RZ26L, a CD-R and one CDF > drive in the tower cab.  I wouldn't add 7200 RPM drives, but I wouldB > think you could safely add more hard and CD drives up to the boxC > capacity even though we never qualified more than the above towere > configs with hard drives.n >'
 > Doug Gordone > Former InfoServer Developer    ------------------------------  " Date: Mon, 1 May 2000 17:44:45 GMT9 From: Kilgallen@eisner.decus.org.nospam (Larry Kilgallen).5 Subject: Re: Infoserver CD-R (was: Verify of Backups) + Message-ID: <69CoVksnFnrX@eisner.decus.org>   Y In article <390D9222.54AFAABB@ccinet.ab.ca>, Gord Coulman <gcoulman@ccinet.ab.ca> writes:e  L > Is there any way a Windoze box can communicate with an Infoserver directly > (without Pathworks?).o  J Certainly.  Using the non-Pathworks Infoserver client (also discontinued).   ------------------------------  % Date: Mon, 01 May 2000 08:06:32 -0600r% From: Dan O'Reilly <dano@process.com>e2 Subject: More Examples of "VMS?  Compaq Does VMS?"B Message-ID: <4.2.0.58.20000501080450.00a2a650@pop.clsp.uswest.net>  K Just got the latest 17kb edition of "New issue of Product News at a Glance"eK Scads and scads of articles on PC's.  On W2k.  On Tru64 Unix.  On Himalaya.   M But VMS?  Yet again MIA.  Guess it's true, Compaq must not do VMS no more....    ------I +-------------------------------+---------------------------------------+ I | Dan O'Reilly                  |                                       | I | Principal Engineer            |  "Time flies like an arrow.  Fruit    |eI | Process Software Corporation  |   flies like a banana."               |iI | http://www.process.com        |                    -- Groucho Marx    |MI +-------------------------------+---------------------------------------+t   ------------------------------  " Date: Mon, 1 May 2000 13:12:36 GMT9 From: Kilgallen@eisner.decus.org.nospam (Larry Kilgallen)i0 Subject: Re: Need Hardware token solution needed+ Message-ID: <lgaL+dG8ZvTs@eisner.decus.org>a  l In article <RuuO4.37536$k5.1067253@news1.frmt1.sfba.home.com>, "Barry Streets" <berrys2552@home.com> writes:K > I need to find a hardware token solution for validating users on a secures* > system. Any thoughts or recommendations? > @ > Interested in low cost/simple management solution if possible.  @ Ask RSA Security about their ACM 5100 product (the 5105 requires you add a Unix box to the mix).o  / > Please copy to my e-mail (Barrys@echoman.com)u  , Asked here, answered here (group tradition).   ------------------------------   Date: 1 May 2000 16:06:16 GMTa2 From: mathog@seqaxp.bio.caltech.edu (David Mathog)# Subject: new cluster license prices , Message-ID: <8eka1o$8ei@gap.cco.caltech.edu>  4 Compaq has released new cluster license prices, see:  =   http://www.openvms.digital.com/availability/ds_cluster.htmle  I Nice to see they're finally moving in the right direction, but baby steps-H aren't going to win any races.  At $6000 a full cluster license is stillJ ridiculously expensive for a DS10.  Ie, OpenVMS + Cluster license is aboutI twice as much as the hardware alone (for a smallish DS10).  $1500 is also G awfully steep for the right to access a remote MSCP disk and partake ofpI other cluster "client" activities, and not even be able to qualify as thedK 3rd voting node in a cluster.  In otherwords, if you're really going to setaJ up any sort of fault tolerant cluster you'll have to spend at least $18000J for 3 voting nodes, for cluster software alone, making the smallest 3 nodeI DS10 cluster roughly a $33000 proposition.  That's (still) a ridiculouslygG high price, and the tiny (and shrinking) market penetration is a directsJ result.   For the same money one could put up a 7 node linux DS10 cluster.G or an 11 node PC linux cluster.  These would be slightly (and I do mean H slightly) less reliable, but would have more than twice the throughput.   J Oh yes, the prices for the Tru64 software are half as much for the server ( and 2/3 as much for the client licenses.  0 So much for the concept of entry level clusters.   Regards,   David Mathog mathog@seqaxp.bio.caltech.edu ? Manager, sequence analysis facility, biology division, Caltech     ------------------------------  $ Date: Mon, 1 May 2000 13:33:18 -0400' From: "Bill Todd" <billtodd@foo.mv.com> ' Subject: Re: new cluster license pricesi( Message-ID: <8ekf1p$gcf$1@pyrite.mv.net>  = David Mathog <mathog@seqaxp.bio.caltech.edu> wrote in messageH& news:8eka1o$8ei@gap.cco.caltech.edu...6 > Compaq has released new cluster license prices, see: > ? >   http://www.openvms.digital.com/availability/ds_cluster.html  > K > Nice to see they're finally moving in the right direction, but baby steps   > aren't going to win any races.  F A 50% reduction is more than a baby step.  The 87.5% reduction for theB 'client' license makes that form of license cheaper than any otherJ commercial (non-Linux, if one considers Linux 'commercial') cluster option I've heard of.  *   At $6000 a full cluster license is still$ > ridiculously expensive for a DS10.  I Again, not compared to the competition.  In fact, the cost in relation toHL the DS10 hardware cost is lower than, say, the cost-differential between W2KL Server and W2K Advanced Server (the step up you have to make to cluster) and  the low-end hardware it runs on.  H Just because I happen to believe that Compaq would be better off overallL pricing full-cluster support on DS10 hardware at something below $3K (with aK 'client' license under $1K, and discounting both further by at least 50% ifuI purchased with the hardware) doesn't make it 'ridiculous' that they don't-G choose to.  Like it or not, the market appears to consider clustering a-J sufficiently significant feature to pay a significant price for.  This mayF well change with increased competition (especially as Linux clustering$ matures), but that's the case today.  (   Ie, OpenVMS + Cluster license is aboutK > twice as much as the hardware alone (for a smallish DS10).  $1500 is alsotI > awfully steep for the right to access a remote MSCP disk and partake ofpK > other cluster "client" activities, and not even be able to qualify as theaI > 3rd voting node in a cluster.  In otherwords, if you're really going to  settL > up any sort of fault tolerant cluster you'll have to spend at least $18000L > for 3 voting nodes, for cluster software alone, making the smallest 3 node, > DS10 cluster roughly a $33000 proposition.  F A quorum disk seems a reasonable way to get an entry-level 2-node DS10 cluster for about $22000.l     That's (still) a ridiculously I > high price, and the tiny (and shrinking) market penetration is a direct0L > result.   For the same money one could put up a 7 node linux DS10 cluster.I > or an 11 node PC linux cluster.  These would be slightly (and I do meaneI > slightly) less reliable, but would have more than twice the throughput.m > K > Oh yes, the prices for the Tru64 software are half as much for the serveri* > and 2/3 as much for the client licenses.  A Worth noting, though VMS clusters offer additional value for many ( applications that are platform-agnostic.   >h2 > So much for the concept of entry level clusters.  D These *are* entry-level clusters (a 2-node W2K cluster with far lessL capability runs around $10K).  You just don't want to pay for them (and it'sD not clear you'll ever want to pay anything for them given that LinuxL clustering is effectively free and decent IA hardware costs half what a DS10I does), but many people seem happy to.  More might at lower prices, and ifsJ Compaq decides it wants to be more aggressive with entry-level VMS pricing. to build market share that will likely happen.   - bill   >I
 > Regards, >a > David Mathog > mathog@seqaxp.bio.caltech.edu-@ > Manager, sequence analysis facility, biology division, Caltech   ------------------------------  # Date: Mon, 01 May 2000 13:45:38 GMT// From: "John Nixon" <jorlnixon@worldnet.att.net>a1 Subject: Product News at a Glance, April 26, 20008G Message-ID: <6UfP4.43457$WF.2273049@bgtnsc04-news.ops.worldnet.att.net>    Who received this news letter?H Lets have a contest:  How many times did the letters "VMS" appear in the Compaq news letter?s  ; Hint:   It is not a negative number, but it is less than 1.s   ------------------------------  " Date: Mon, 1 May 2000 15:04:45 GMT0 From: "Terry C. Shannon" <shannon@world.std.com>5 Subject: Re: Product News at a Glance, April 26, 2000x& Message-ID: <FtvypG.GKo@world.std.com>   ----- Original Message -----/ From: "John Nixon" <jorlnixon@worldnet.att.net>g Newsgroups: comp.os.vmsn" Sent: Monday, May 01, 2000 9:45 AM1 Subject: Product News at a Glance, April 26, 2000-      > Who received this news letter?   Well, I got a copy.   J > Lets have a contest:  How many times did the letters "VMS" appear in the > Compaq news letter?- > = > Hint:   It is not a negative number, but it is less than 1.k  
 0.7? 0.23?   Ummm, ZERO!    Yeah, that's the ticket!  E But it's not surprising, nor should it be taken as a slap at OpenVMS.xI Product News at a Glance is a summary of new product announcements. TheresK apparently were no new OpenVMS OS, tool, or layered product releases duringhK the April 26 newsletter cycle. There **was** some NSK coverage, since the Q-0 announced a new Himalaya system (S74000 series).   ------------------------------  % Date: Mon, 01 May 2000 09:12:03 -0600a% From: Dan O'Reilly <dano@process.com>i5 Subject: Re: Product News at a Glance, April 26, 2000KB Message-ID: <4.2.0.58.20000501091125.00a49480@pop.clsp.uswest.net>  , At 09:04 AM 5/1/00 , Terry C. Shannon wrote:  F >But it's not surprising, nor should it be taken as a slap at OpenVMS.J >Product News at a Glance is a summary of new product announcements. ThereL >apparently were no new OpenVMS OS, tool, or layered product releases duringL >the April 26 newsletter cycle. There **was** some NSK coverage, since the Q1 >announced a new Himalaya system (S74000 series).0  L So, are these the same systems that were going to be Alpha?  Weren't all the% new Himalyas supposed to be Alpha...?9   ------I +-------------------------------+---------------------------------------+tI | Dan O'Reilly                  |                                       |aI | Principal Engineer            |  "Time flies like an arrow.  Fruit    |rI | Process Software Corporation  |   flies like a banana."               | I | http://www.process.com        |                    -- Groucho Marx    | I +-------------------------------+---------------------------------------+I   ------------------------------  $ Date: Mon, 1 May 2000 13:20:55 +0100" From: "ma" <ma@NoSpam.ee.ed.ac.uk> Subject: Reading VMS disks, Message-ID: <8ejskd$ooj$1@scotsman.ed.ac.uk>  
 Hello All,A     I am not a VMS user and I haven't any VMS but I have some VMS D isks( optical disks) that I want to read (maybe by a LINUX system) .  ' Is there any software that can do this?a  L  what is the latest version of file system on a VMS? I tried to read them byH using a free software from OpenVMS site that could read ODS2 files but I* couldn't read them. Is there any solution?     Any help will be appreciated.      Regards    ------------------------------   Date: 1 May 2000 15:20:10 GMT 2 From: hoffman@xdelta.zko.dec.nospam (Hoff Hoffman) Subject: Re: Reading VMS disks6 Message-ID: <8ek7ba$6ok$2@mailint03.im.hou.compaq.com>  Q In article <8ejskd$ooj$1@scotsman.ed.ac.uk>, "ma" <ma@NoSpam.ee.ed.ac.uk> writes:j  B :    I am not a VMS user and I haven't any VMS but I have some VMSF :disks( optical disks) that I want to read (maybe by a LINUX system) .  A   Exactly what sort of optical disk?  (CD-ROM is an optical disk,r   after all.)   D   Getting access to the media and media format may well be the most B   difficult part of this task, assuming you cannot simply acquire A   temporary access to an OpenVMS system for sufficiently long to ,#   access the contents of the media.c  ( :Is there any software that can do this?     Yes.  No.  Maybe.   6 : what is the latest version of file system on a VMS?   <   ODS-2 is the most likely, and that file structure has been   stable for a long time.f  A :I tried to read them by using a free software from OpenVMS site l     Which software package?f  6 :that could read ODS2 files but I couldn't read them.      Couldn't read them _why_?n  !     o Did the application fail?  f'     o Did the file data not make sense? %     o Did you get any error messages? 9     o What platform did you try to access the media from? E     o What structure is used for the files on the disk?  RMS?  Other?d:     o If the files are RMS files, what is the file format?  N  --------------------------- pure personal opinion ---------------------------L    Hoff (Stephen) Hoffman   OpenVMS Engineering   hoffman#xdelta.zko.dec.com   ------------------------------  % Date: Mon, 01 May 2000 10:18:25 -0500f" From: Earl Lakia <lakia@ipact.com>: Subject: Re: Setting local event flag from another process) Message-ID: <390DA040.888E2676@ipact.com>   D I use the lock manager and the blocking  AST notification AST when a! blocking lock is being requested.    For example:  @ Process one captures lock in exclusive mode with a blocking AST.  ? Process two requests the lock in any mode other than NULL which C triggers the blocking AST in process one.  Process one now sets then? local (Process one) process's event flag and releases the lock.aC Process one can request the lock again within the AST for exclusivei; mode again with the blocking AST, rearming the whole thing. < This new request for the lock will be queued since the other> requestor will have captured the lock in an incompatibel mode.  ' Finally, process two releases the lock.-   note:-: Make sure you use different flags in the ENQ calls for the4 blocking AST and the event flag for the ENQ when the lock is granted.   --
 Earl D. Lakias0 Senior Staff Engineer         Web: www.ipact.com4 Snail Mail:                   Email: lakia@ipact.com
 IPACT Inc.1 260 S. Campbell St.           Phone: 219-464-7212  Valparaiso, IN 46383     mlnorman wrote:a  L > I have a need for an application/method of setting a local event flag fromL > another process.  It seems that I recall having seen discussion of this inN > the past, so I believe it's theoretically possible, but currently outside myL > capabilities.  If anyone has any insight into such wizardry and would care" > to share, I would appreciate it. >R > Thanks in advancet   ------------------------------   Date: 1 May 2000 09:15:34 GMTg* From: helbig@astro.rug.nl (Phillip Helbig) Subject: strange TFTP problemn. Message-ID: <8ejhvm$47b$2@info.service.rug.nl>   $ show symbol tftp= %DCL-W-UNDSYM, undefined symbol - check validity and spelling3 $ $ run sys$system:tcpip$tftp ! %SYSTEM-F-DUPLNAM, duplicate name 
 Tftp Exit. $o  - What gives?   (V5.0A-1, OpenVMS V7.2-1 Alpha)n   ------------------------------  $ Date: Mon, 1 May 2000 06:41:23 -04002 From: "Richard B. Gilbert" <DRAGON@compuserve.com> Subject: strange TFTP problema7 Message-ID: <200005010641_MC2-A342-CADB@compuserve.com>.  G         TCPIP$TFTP is apparently trying to create a process with a name G which duplicates the name of an existing process in the same UIC group!t  J         It sounds like a bug to me, or perhaps it's just poor design; the=  - code *is* a port from Digital Unix after all!e  4 Message text written by INTERNET:helbig@astro.rug.nl >$ show symbol tftpI= %DCL-W-UNDSYM, undefined symbol - check validity and spelling  $ $ run sys$system:tcpip$tftpe! %SYSTEM-F-DUPLNAM, duplicate namel
 Tftp Exit. $a  - What gives?   (V5.0A-1, OpenVMS V7.2-1 Alpha)    <l   ------------------------------  % Date: Mon, 01 May 2000 16:25:28 +0200l5 From: Oswald Knoppers <Oswald.Knoppers@whitehouse.nl>C! Subject: Re: strange TFTP problem - Message-ID: <390D93D8.E07391A4@whitehouse.nl>w   Phillip Helbig wrote:  >  > $ show symbol tftp? > %DCL-W-UNDSYM, undefined symbol - check validity and spelling  > $ $ run sys$system:tcpip$tftps# > %SYSTEM-F-DUPLNAM, duplicate nameu > Tftp Exit. > $n > / > What gives?   (V5.0A-1, OpenVMS V7.2-1 Alpha)R  D Looks like someone else is already listening to port 69. Do a 'tcpip7 show device/port=69' and see what process is the owner.d   Regards,   Oswald   ------------------------------  % Date: Mon, 01 May 2000 16:27:28 +0200 5 From: Oswald Knoppers <Oswald.Knoppers@whitehouse.nl>e! Subject: Re: strange TFTP problema- Message-ID: <390D9450.3D82F461@whitehouse.nl>    "Richard B. Gilbert" wrote:  > I >         TCPIP$TFTP is apparently trying to create a process with a nameGI > which duplicates the name of an existing process in the same UIC group!  > K >         It sounds like a bug to me, or perhaps it's just poor design; they/ > code *is* a port from Digital Unix after all!V > 6 > Message text written by INTERNET:helbig@astro.rug.nl > >$ show symbol tftpD? > %DCL-W-UNDSYM, undefined symbol - check validity and spelling  > $ $ run sys$system:tcpip$tftpW# > %SYSTEM-F-DUPLNAM, duplicate namef > Tftp Exit. > $  > / > What gives?   (V5.0A-1, OpenVMS V7.2-1 Alpha)a >  > <nB Hmm, I just replied to the exact same question, this time asked byD Philip Helbig. Something hosed apparently. Anyway, the duplnam meansC that someone else is already listening to port 69, do a 'tcpip showe& device/port=69' to find out who it is.   Regards,   Oswald   ------------------------------  # Date: Mon, 01 May 2000 14:36:00 GMT " From: Art Rice <arice@ue.itug.org>/ Subject: Re: The Movie "Breaking Point" + PDP11 8 Message-ID: <c75rgso3vqo8k6lchm4p6va643qnbp8f74@4ax.com>  2 On Sun, 23 Apr 2000 22:11:04 -0400, "David Turner" <d_b_turner@yahoo.com> wrote:-  M >Anyone ever noticed the title in the beginning of the movie Breaking Point ?  > M >In the "music by" section it gives some guy's name with "his PDP11 computer"F >t >Wow ! >r/ >Shame they never pushed Alpha's that way huh ?n >  >How about this: >tD >"Indepedence day  - rendering by Digital Alpha Technology  Personal >Workstation 433a-* >Call 1 800 Digital for sales information" >-L >Instead it was Shhhhhhh... don't let them know they were using Linux on ourF >Alpha's - in fact, don't let them know they were using Alpha's at all >: >Can we say Pathetic ?????  > Just noticed this weekend after sitting with the kids watching? "Star Trek The Motion Picture"  circa 1980,  in the credits thee
 following:  : Medical Computer Graphics - Digital Equipment Corporation.  7 Those were actually some pretty cool graphics for 1980!h  C How many productions since then has Digital/Compaq been involved ins that they don't get credit for?e       -- t
 Art Rice   *# # Special Data Processing Corporation & --------------------------------------' All opinions expressed are mine and do e% not reflect the views of my employer..   ------------------------------  % Date: Mon, 01 May 2000 09:13:37 -0600 % From: Dan O'Reilly <dano@process.com>t/ Subject: Re: The Movie "Breaking Point" + PDP11gB Message-ID: <4.2.0.58.20000501091225.00a374e0@pop.clsp.uswest.net>  $ At 08:36 AM 5/1/00 , Art Rice wrote:? >Just noticed this weekend after sitting with the kids watchinge@ >"Star Trek The Motion Picture"  circa 1980,  in the credits the >following:t >i; >Medical Computer Graphics - Digital Equipment Corporation.u >s8 >Those were actually some pretty cool graphics for 1980! >oD >How many productions since then has Digital/Compaq been involved in  >that they don't get credit for?  H Well, they got Rainbows prominently displayed in "Beverly Hills Cop" andE "Ghostbusters"...my understanding (I was a Digit at the time) is thatc8 Digital paid a fair penny for those cameo appearances...     ------I +-------------------------------+---------------------------------------+nI | Dan O'Reilly                  |                                       |rI | Principal Engineer            |  "Time flies like an arrow.  Fruit    |nI | Process Software Corporation  |   flies like a banana."               |hI | http://www.process.com        |                    -- Groucho Marx    |CI +-------------------------------+---------------------------------------+l   ------------------------------  % Date: Mon, 01 May 2000 13:03:45 +0200s= From: Arne =?iso-8859-1?Q?Vajh=F8j?= <arne.vajhoej@gtech.com>/' Subject: Re: Time Sync'ing a VMS serverm) Message-ID: <390D6491.293B88CE@gtech.com>.   glendoj wrote:I > Is there any way to sync the time on a VMS server to another VMS serverlI > or maybe even to a unix box?  Any help or leads would be of great help.   < There exist a small little utilty DNETDATE.COM that can sync time over DECnet !   Arne   ------------------------------   Date: 1 May 2000 14:58:56 GMT ' From: stan@thhpc.gps.caltech.edu (Stan)d! Subject: UCX ftp crash on VMS 7.2e, Message-ID: <8ek63g$661@gap.cco.caltech.edu>  A Last friday, someone marched through our IP address space, pokingl@ the ftp daemons on all our machines.  [Or at least the ones thatB have ftp enabled.]  I presume that they were looking for some sortA of vulnerability, but I don't know what they were feeding the ftp8? daemon.  The unix machines and the VMS 6.2 machines running UCXs> all just dealt with it, but the three machines we have running? VMS 7.2 and UCX 5.0 all crashed immediately.  Here is a snippet0 from the dump:  % Dump taken on 28-APR-2000 20:56:50.83e& INCONSTATE, Inconsistent I/O data base   System crash information ------------------------- Time of system crash: 28-APR-2000 20:56:50.83s  H Version of system: OpenVMS (TM) Alpha Operating System, Version V7.2      % System Version Major ID/Minor ID: 3/0   . VMScluster node: WWOLF, a AlphaStation 255/300  # Crash CPU ID/Primary CPU ID:  00/00o  4 Bitmask of CPUs active/available:  00000001/00000001   CPU bugcheck codes:i8         CPU 00 -- INCONSTATE, Inconsistent I/O data base       Press RETURN for more." CPU 00 Processor crash information" ----------------------------------  B CPU 00 reason for Bugcheck: INCONSTATE, Inconsistent I/O data base  2 Process currently executing on this CPU: TCPIP$FTP  N Current image file: WWOLF$DKA500:[SYS0.SYSCOMMON.][SYSEXE]TCPIP$FTP_SERVER.EXE   Current IPL: 8  (decimal)   8 All three machines had the same dump.  I did a search in6 DejaNews, and I didn't find any mention of this.  Has  anyone else seen this happen?    ------------------------------  % Date: Mon, 01 May 2000 13:36:07 -0400 1 From: "Mark D. Jilson" <jilly@clarityconnect.com>a% Subject: Re: UCX ftp crash on VMS 7.2d2 Message-ID: <390DC087.D7111E71@clarityconnect.com>  H You didn't post any data from which one could look up the crash.  Please post the CLUE CRASH data.i   Stan wrote:l > C > Last friday, someone marched through our IP address space, pokingaB > the ftp daemons on all our machines.  [Or at least the ones thatD > have ftp enabled.]  I presume that they were looking for some sortC > of vulnerability, but I don't know what they were feeding the ftpeA > daemon.  The unix machines and the VMS 6.2 machines running UCXd@ > all just dealt with it, but the three machines we have runningA > VMS 7.2 and UCX 5.0 all crashed immediately.  Here is a snippetl > from the dump: > ' > Dump taken on 28-APR-2000 20:56:50.83h( > INCONSTATE, Inconsistent I/O data base >  > System crash information > ------------------------/ > Time of system crash: 28-APR-2000 20:56:50.83r > F > Version of system: OpenVMS (TM) Alpha Operating System, Version V7.2 > ' > System Version Major ID/Minor ID: 3/0v > 0 > VMScluster node: WWOLF, a AlphaStation 255/300 > % > Crash CPU ID/Primary CPU ID:  00/00r > 6 > Bitmask of CPUs active/available:  00000001/00000001 >  > CPU bugcheck codes: : >         CPU 00 -- INCONSTATE, Inconsistent I/O data base >  >     Press RETURN for more.$ > CPU 00 Processor crash information$ > ---------------------------------- > D > CPU 00 reason for Bugcheck: INCONSTATE, Inconsistent I/O data base > 4 > Process currently executing on this CPU: TCPIP$FTP > P > Current image file: WWOLF$DKA500:[SYS0.SYSCOMMON.][SYSEXE]TCPIP$FTP_SERVER.EXE >  > Current IPL: 8  (decimal)q > : > All three machines had the same dump.  I did a search in7 > DejaNews, and I didn't find any mention of this.  HasM > anyone else seen this happen?@   -- tD Jilly	- Working from Home in the Chemung River Valley - Lockwood, NY0 	- jilly@clarityconnect.com			- Brett Bodine fan. 	- Mark.Jilson@Compaq.com			- since 1975 or so, 	- http://www.jilly.baka.com               -   ------------------------------  " Date: Mon, 1 May 2000 14:53:41 GMT, From: koehler@eisner.decus.org (Bob Koehler) Subject: Re: VXT2000 question-+ Message-ID: <nKJUQposuyO8@eisner.decus.org>   Y In article <390ADC02.D1CBF348@post.tau.ac.il>, Lydia Yudina <gl10@post.tau.ac.il> writes:2
 > Hi Experts,DJ > I have an antic VXT2000 X-terminal which i'm trying to resurrect (so far > unsuccessfully).I > It's starting to load, loading (i can see it) and hangs off just beforeM2 > the user name and password window should appear.E > I can see the desktop background and the mouse pointer (which a cans > move).$ > I didn't find any error-log files.  H I'm writing this from a VXT 2000+, we used to have some 2000's.  Our +'sE are configured to stop after booting and bringing up the VXT TerminaleC Manager and Message Box windows, after which the user selects whichaA system to connect to.  I think we had our 2000's set up the same.f  F If you want an automatic connection to be made to a particular system,I there may be a setup entry in a menu off the VXT Terminal Manager window.e   Do you get the VXT windows?c  F ----------------------------------------------------------------------? Bob Koehler                     | Computer Sciences Corporationm= Hubble Space Telescope Payload  | Federal Sector, Civil GrouptE  Flight Software Team           | please remove ".aspm" when replying8   ------------------------------  # Date: Mon, 01 May 2000 15:28:45 GMT ( From: Andy Zillins <andyzzz@my-deja.com> Subject: Re: VXT2000 questionP) Message-ID: <8ek7qq$9t0$1@nnrp1.deja.com>   + In article <nKJUQposuyO8@eisner.decus.org>,n&   koehler@eisner.decus.aspm.org wrote:= > In article <390ADC02.D1CBF348@post.tau.ac.il>, Lydia Yudina* <gl10@post.tau.ac.il> writes:Q > > Hi Experts,wH > > I have an antic VXT2000 X-terminal which i'm trying to resurrect (so farg > > unsuccessfully).D > > It's starting to load, loading (i can see it) and hangs off just before4 > > the user name and password window should appear.G > > I can see the desktop background and the mouse pointer (which a can 
 > > move).& > > I didn't find any error-log files. >sF > I'm writing this from a VXT 2000+, we used to have some 2000's.  Our +'saG > are configured to stop after booting and bringing up the VXT Terminal E > Manager and Message Box windows, after which the user selects which-C > system to connect to.  I think we had our 2000's set up the same.  >eH > If you want an automatic connection to be made to a particular system,C > there may be a setup entry in a menu off the VXT Terminal Manager  window.l >  > Do you get the VXT windows?a    ? I had a simular problem with a used VXT2000(+?).  It had an oldtF configuration in setup that wouldn't let it get beyond loading the VXTB system file.  There was an instruction in the manual for resettingE configuration memory to factory defaults.   From the >>> prompt, typer! "T/UTIL 1"  This was all it took.     & Sent via Deja.com http://www.deja.com/ Before you buy.d   ------------------------------   End of INFO-VAX 2000.243 ************************