1 INFO-VAX	Wed, 03 May 2000	Volume 2000 : Issue 247       Contents:I Re: $ mc ess$lastcp sh clients---%SYSTEM-F-EXQUOTA, process quotaexceeded 0 Re: Access to DOS-formatted floppies under VMS ?0 Re: Access to DOS-formatted floppies under VMS ? Re: Alpha VMS async I/O  Re: Alpha VMS async I/O  Re: And they wonder why !! Re: And they wonder why !! Re: And they wonder why !! Re: And they wonder why !! Re: And they wonder why !! Re: And they wonder why !!, Re: Any ALPHAbook (Tadpole) users out there?, Re: Any ALPHAbook (Tadpole) users out there?, Re: Any ALPHAbook (Tadpole) users out there? Apache 1.3.4 for VMS?  Re: cmu  Re: Console Firmware From VMS  Re: Console Firmware From VMS > Re: DCL-equivalent for COBOL WRITE WITH NO ADVANCING wanted...> Re: DCL-equivalent for COBOL WRITE WITH NO ADVANCING wanted... Eprom images Re: Eprom images ERRFMT not found Re: ERRFMT not found Re: ERRFMT not found Re: ERRFMT not found# Fwd: FW: Changing File Create Dates % getting stack dumps/traces, continued ) Re: getting stack dumps/traces, continued  How add a machine in UAS Re: How add a machine in UAS Re: How add a machine in UAS/ Re: how do I write sysgen parameter permanently ? HP Laserjet Escape Sequences for VMS printing documented where? 1 Re: Humble request for a modification to VMS Mail 1 Re: Humble request for a modification to VMS Mail / Re: Is there any online documentation for LG06? ) Memo:   Re: Dropping DECnet..don't do it! - Re: Memo:   Re: Dropping DECnet..don't do it! - Re: Memo:   Re: Dropping DECnet..don't do it!   Re: Moving data from VMS to UNIX  Re: Moving data from VMS to UNIX  Re: Moving data from VMS to UNIX Re: MPI for OpenVMS? Re: OpenVMS marketing  re:  OpenVMS marketing Re: OpenVMS marketing  Re: OpenVMS marketing  Re: OpenVMS marketing  Re: OpenVMS marketing  patches mailing list Re: patches mailing list Re: patches mailing list Re: patches mailing list, Re: Product News at a Glance, April 26, 2000, Re: Product News at a Glance, April 26, 2000$ Re: Sun is no longer the dot in .com Re: Tivoli Agent for VMS?  Re: UCX ftp crash on VMS 7.2 Re: UCX ftp crash on VMS 7.2 Re: VMS 7.1-2 v 7.1-1H2 6 Re: VMS Fibre channel connectivity with 3rd party disk7 Re: VMS/UCX responds to UDP broadcast with ICMP message  Re: VXT2000 question  F ----------------------------------------------------------------------  % Date: Wed, 03 May 2000 13:05:47 +0100 - From: Tim Llewellyn <tim.llewellyn@bbc.co.uk> R Subject: Re: $ mc ess$lastcp sh clients---%SYSTEM-F-EXQUOTA, process quotaexceeded) Message-ID: <3910161A.F19075B4@bbc.co.uk>    Dave Greenwood wrote:    >  > F > I have a C program (originally written by CJL) that will display theE > quotas of another process.  I've used it several times to determine F > which quota was being exceeded.  Let me know if you want it and I'll > email it to you. >   5 You can do the same with ANALYZE/SYSTEM SHOW PROCESS.   -- 6 Tim Llewellyn, OpenVMS Infrastructure, Remarcs Project0 MedAS at the BBC, Whiteladies Road, Bristol, UK.A Email tim.llewellyn@bbc.co.uk. Home tim.llewellyn@cableinet.co.uk   A I speak for myself only and my views in no way represent those of  MedAS or the BBC.    ------------------------------   Date: 3 May 2000 06:54:20 GMT * From: helbig@astro.rug.nl (Phillip Helbig)9 Subject: Re: Access to DOS-formatted floppies under VMS ? . Message-ID: <8eoies$ofq$2@info.service.rug.nl>  k In article <8enl56$iub$2@mailint03.im.hou.compaq.com>, hoffman@xdelta.zko.dec.nospam (Hoff Hoffman) writes:  > ] > In article <8enk6j$ljd$1@news1.skynet.be>, "Marc Van Dyck" <marc.vandyck@skynet.be> writes: M > :Any way to read/write a DOS-formatted floppy on the floppy drive of my AXP  > :station ? > G >   The OpenVMS FAQ might be of interest here, particularly the section J >   entitled "UTIL2.  How do I access a MS-DOS floppy disk from OpenVMS?".% >   The OpenVMS FAQ is available via:  > $ >     http://www.openvms.compaq.com/  	 See also    :    http://www2.wku.edu/scripts/fileserv/fileserv.com?MGPCX   ------------------------------  % Date: Wed, 03 May 2000 11:02:58 +0200 = From: Arne =?iso-8859-1?Q?Vajh=F8j?= <arne.vajhoej@gtech.com> 9 Subject: Re: Access to DOS-formatted floppies under VMS ? ( Message-ID: <390FEB42.4B1E3C9@gtech.com>   Marc Van Dyck wrote:L > Any way to read/write a DOS-formatted floppy on the floppy drive of my AXP > station ?   F You need a utility like PCDISK (part of PathWorks) or PCX (freeware) !   Arne   ------------------------------  % Date: Wed, 03 May 2000 13:12:46 +0100 - From: Tim Llewellyn <tim.llewellyn@bbc.co.uk>   Subject: Re: Alpha VMS async I/O( Message-ID: <391017BE.848FB64@bbc.co.uk>   Etienne Fondu wrote:  ( > We have the 11.0.3.3 on Alpha VMS 6.2.I > Sybase allows async I/O , but you need the 'o/s async i/o' config param 
 > enabled.G > In the documentation it says it is a read-only param, and you need to 6 > configure the operating system to enable this param.N > Our system managers don't seem to know what parameter needs to set. Nor does. > Sybase support know whatto do either on VMS. > So, does anyone know?  > Thanks  K Possibly what is being referred to is the "Fast Path" IO feature introduced D in recent version of VMS. I am not sure however if VMS 6.2 is recent enough.      --6 Tim Llewellyn, OpenVMS Infrastructure, Remarcs Project0 MedAS at the BBC, Whiteladies Road, Bristol, UK.A Email tim.llewellyn@bbc.co.uk. Home tim.llewellyn@cableinet.co.uk   A I speak for myself only and my views in no way represent those of  MedAS or the BBC.    ------------------------------  % Date: Wed, 03 May 2000 15:11:35 +0200 = From: Arne =?iso-8859-1?Q?Vajh=F8j?= <arne.vajhoej@gtech.com>   Subject: Re: Alpha VMS async I/O) Message-ID: <39102587.B01DEAEB@gtech.com>    Tim Llewellyn wrote: > Etienne Fondu wrote:* > > We have the 11.0.3.3 on Alpha VMS 6.2.K > > Sybase allows async I/O , but you need the 'o/s async i/o' config param  > > enabled.I > > In the documentation it says it is a read-only param, and you need to 8 > > configure the operating system to enable this param.P > > Our system managers don't seem to know what parameter needs to set. Nor does0 > > Sybase support know whatto do either on VMS. > M > Possibly what is being referred to is the "Fast Path" IO feature introduced F > in recent version of VMS. I am not sure however if VMS 6.2 is recent	 > enough.     Fast path IO is a VMS 7.x thing.  > And Sybase asynch IO is something different than fast path IO.   Arne   ------------------------------  $ Date: Wed, 3 May 2000 08:12:19 -0400 From: jlahman@LTVSteel.com# Subject: Re: And they wonder why !! 8 Message-ID: <852568D4.00431338.00@notesnta.LTVSteel.com>  F mathog@seqaxp.bio.caltech.edu (David Mathog) on 05/02/2000 05:38:18 PM  / Please respond to mathog@seqaxp.bio.caltech.edu    To:   Info-VAX@Mvb.Saic.Com ! cc:    (bcc: Jim Lahman/CLWK/LTV) $ Subject:  Re: And they wonder why !!       > J >Separately, CPQ soon will offer free OpenVMS licenses to universities and  >other educational institutions.  % >Interesting.  What does "soon" mean?   M I understand that this programis currently in place.  However, its now widely  publicized.    ------------------------------  % Date: Wed, 03 May 2000 08:44:23 -0400 + From: Tim Shoppa <shoppa@trailing-edge.com> # Subject: Re: And they wonder why !! 1 Message-ID: <390FE6E7.39AE5474@trailing-edge.com>    jlahman@LTVSteel.com wrote:  > H > mathog@seqaxp.bio.caltech.edu (David Mathog) on 05/02/2000 05:38:18 PMN > > >Separately, CPQ soon will offer free OpenVMS licenses to universities and$ > > >other educational institutions. > ' > >Interesting.  What does "soon" mean?  > O > I understand that this programis currently in place.  However, its now widely 
 > publicized.   D Geeze, then all the University folks who are paying $ for their CSLGA (instead of getting it for free) must feel really stupid.  How do A I switch the academic customers that I support over to the "free"  version?   Tim.   ------------------------------  " Date: Wed, 3 May 2000 14:30:06 GMT0 From: "Terry C. Shannon" <shannon@world.std.com># Subject: Re: And they wonder why !! & Message-ID: <FtzMt3.Es7@world.std.com>  8 "Tim Shoppa" <shoppa@trailing-edge.com> wrote in message+ news:390FE6E7.39AE5474@trailing-edge.com...  > jlahman@LTVSteel.com wrote:  > > J > > mathog@seqaxp.bio.caltech.edu (David Mathog) on 05/02/2000 05:38:18 PML > > > >Separately, CPQ soon will offer free OpenVMS licenses to universities and & > > > >other educational institutions. > > ) > > >Interesting.  What does "soon" mean?  > > J > > I understand that this programis currently in place.  However, its now widely > > publicized.  > F > Geeze, then all the University folks who are paying $ for their CSLGC > (instead of getting it for free) must feel really stupid.  How do C > I switch the academic customers that I support over to the "free" 
 > version?  K Good question. I first became aware of the program when RIch Marcello cited L its existence during a presentation at last month's DECUS/ITUG conference inJ Vienna. He provided very little detail other than to say the program would be available Real Soon Now.   : Perhaps someone from Compaq can provide a Better Answer...   ------------------------------   Date: 3 May 2000 15:08:01 GMT 2 From: mathog@seqaxp.bio.caltech.edu (David Mathog)# Subject: Re: And they wonder why !! , Message-ID: <8epfch$g01@gap.cco.caltech.edu>  U In article <852568D4.00431338.00@notesnta.LTVSteel.com>, jlahman@LTVSteel.com writes:  > K >>Separately, CPQ soon will offer free OpenVMS licenses to universities and ! >>other educational institutions.  > & >>Interesting.  What does "soon" mean? > N >I understand that this programis currently in place.  However, its now widely >publicized. >   C I just spent 15 minutes looking and couldn't find any hint of this  - program's existence on either of these sites:   !   http://www.compaq.com/education "   http://www.digital.com/education   Guess it's time to write R.M.    Regards,   David Mathog mathog@seqaxp.bio.caltech.edu ? Manager, sequence analysis facility, biology division, Caltech     ------------------------------   Date: 3 May 2000 19:10:56 +0200 * From: eplan@kapsch.net (Peter LANGSTOEGER)# Subject: Re: And they wonder why !! * Message-ID: <39105da0$1@news.kapsch.co.at>  Y In article <FtzMt3.Es7@world.std.com>, "Terry C. Shannon" <shannon@world.std.com> writes: . >"Tim Shoppa" <shoppa@trailing-edge.com> wroteG >> Geeze, then all the University folks who are paying $ for their CSLG D >> (instead of getting it for free) must feel really stupid.  How doD >> I switch the academic customers that I support over to the "free" >> version?  > L >Good question. I first became aware of the program when RIch Marcello citedM >its existence during a presentation at last month's DECUS/ITUG conference in K >Vienna. He provided very little detail other than to say the program would  >be available Real Soon Now.  < And how to get this info, when not joining this conference ?= Is the only way to get such infos still only this newsgroup ?   ; >Perhaps someone from Compaq can provide a Better Answer...   / And this is exactly the problem for many years.  "can" instead of "won't"  3 Ok. Calm. The program is not announced yet. Is it ?    --  < Peter "EPLAN" LANGSTOEGER           Tel.    +43 1 81111-2651; Network and OpenVMS system manager  Fax.    +43 1 81111-888 < FBFV/Information Services           E-mail  eplan@kapsch.netF <<< KAPSCH AG  Wagenseilgasse 1     PSImail PSI%(0232)281001141::EPLANH A-1121 VIENNA  AUSTRIA              "I'm not a pessimist, I'm a realist"N "VMS is today what Microsoft wants Windows NT V8.0 to be!" Compaq, 22-Sep-1998   ------------------------------    Date: 03 May 2000 12:36:27 -0500- From: Graham Allan <allan@mnhep1.hep.umn.edu> # Subject: Re: And they wonder why !! 0 Message-ID: <w53r9bjpmck.fsf@lanark.spa.umn.edu>  - Tim Shoppa <shoppa@trailing-edge.com> writes:    > jlahman@LTVSteel.com wrote:  > > J > > mathog@seqaxp.bio.caltech.edu (David Mathog) on 05/02/2000 05:38:18 PMP > > > >Separately, CPQ soon will offer free OpenVMS licenses to universities and& > > > >other educational institutions. > > ) > > >Interesting.  What does "soon" mean?  > > Q > > I understand that this programis currently in place.  However, its now widely  > > publicized.  > F > Geeze, then all the University folks who are paying $ for their CSLGC > (instead of getting it for free) must feel really stupid.  How do C > I switch the academic customers that I support over to the "free" 
 > version?  J Hmm, that wasn't my interpretation of "free OpenVMS licenses". I was aboutI to buy a base VMS OS license for a Personal Workstation, but read Terry's H message as implying I may not need to. But I assumed it would still needE CSLG for the unlimited user licenses, layered products, etc. Now your 6 point makes me wonder what the actual program will be!  G Isn't it interesting how the different OpenVMS and Tru64 divisions have J such totally separate programs (free Tru64 licenses for universities wouldC arguably be just as good an idea as those for VMS). I know they are H separate units within Compaq, but as an ESL/CSLG user, I see them in the same category myself...    G. --  I ------------------------------------------------------------------------- : Graham Allan - I.T. Manager - gta@umn.edu - (612) 624-50409 School of Physics and Astronomy - University of Minnesota I -------------------------------------------------------------------------    ------------------------------   Date: 3 May 2000 10:38:33 GMT 3 From: gartmann@immunbio.mpg.de (Christoph Gartmann) 5 Subject: Re: Any ALPHAbook (Tadpole) users out there? 0 Message-ID: <8eovj9$84v$1@n.ruf.uni-freiburg.de>  9 In article <NqdBRbDZGgG1@tachxxsoftxxconsult>, you write:   K >I have no doubt that if affordable alpha laptops existed, a lot of people, M >maybe the entire readership of c.o.v, would get one.  I have been wanting an N >alphabook for years.  Based on comments seen here from time to time, a lot of >other people have too.   M Just for the record: I got an offer for two refurbished AlphaBooks about four = weeks ago. I'll pass along the details if you are interested.    Regards,    Christoph Gartmann   H -----------------------------------------------------------------------+H | Max-Planck-Institut fuer      Phone   : +49-761-5108-464   Fax: -452 |H | Immunbiologie                                                        |H | Postfach 1169                 Internet: gartmann@immunbio.mpg.de     |H | D-79011  Freiburg, FRG                                               |H +------------ http://www.immunbio.mpg.de/english/menue.html -----------+H -----------------------------------------------------------------------+H | Max-Planck-Institut fuer      Phone   : +49-761-5108-464   Fax: -452 |H | Immunbiologie                                                        |H | Postfach 1169                 Internet: gartmann@immunbio.mpg.de     |H | D-79011  Freiburg, FRG                                               |H +------------ http://www.immunbio.mpg.de/english/menue.html -----------+   ------------------------------   Date: 3 May 2000 11:30:20 CDT = From: wayne@tachysoft.xxx.331639.killspam.013e (Wayne Sewell) 5 Subject: Re: Any ALPHAbook (Tadpole) users out there? . Message-ID: <rcBGTl3LQ$uB@tachxxsoftxxconsult>  Y In article <Ftyo81.CH4@world.std.com>, "Terry C. Shannon" <shannon@world.std.com> writes: H > "Larry Kilgallen" <Kilgallen@eisner.decus.org.nospam> wrote in message' > news:K$fhnEV2FwGm@eisner.decus.org... 1 >> In article <NqdBRbDZGgG1@tachxxsoftxxconsult>, A > wayne@tachysoft.xxx.331639.killspam.013e (Wayne Sewell) writes:  >>G >> > I have no doubt that if affordable alpha laptops existed, a lot of 	 > people, F >> > maybe the entire readership of c.o.v, would get one.  I have been > wanting anK >> > alphabook for years.  Based on comments seen here from time to time, a  > lot of >> > other people have too.  >> >> But not everyone. >>F >> It would be an interesting toy, but I could not justify (to myself)F >> something I would not use.  If laptops were that important, I wouldD >> carry around the Macintosh laptop I own, rather than reserving it5 >> for development of laptop-relevant Macintosh code.X >>E >> I live my life with a lot of computing every day, but no desire tosC >> carry it with me.  People who do more long distance travel mights >> feel differently. > M > Perhaps. But as I learned to my dismay when I had an AlphaBook loaner aboutsM > four years ago, the battery lasted only 40 minutes. Not quite what you needn > for long distance travel...   H Well, not if you want to use it in the airport.  In your hotel or at the customer site however...  O Admittedly, the alphabook has its limitations.  However, I would take it over aeJ top of the line billybox laptop.  I took the latter with me to dallas lastK week.  I was able to work, sort of.  I had copied all of the source files IiO would be working with onto the laptop, but the pain of dealing with the dipshitWN editors available on billyboxes cut my productivity to almost nothing.  With aO real laptop, i.e. one that ran vms, I could have edited with tpu and could havea0 even compiled, linked, and done limited testing.   Waynen --  O =============================================================================== M Wayne Sewell, Tachyon Software Consulting  (281)812-0738  wayne@tachysoft.xxxe: http://www.tachysoft.xxx/www/tachyon.html and wayne.html  K change .xxx to .com in addresses above, assuming you are not a spambot  :-)eO ===============================================================================tC Jake Blues: "Sell me your children!  How much for the little girl?"o   ------------------------------   Date: 3 May 2000 11:46:38 CDTC= From: wayne@tachysoft.xxx.331639.killspam.013e (Wayne Sewell)g5 Subject: Re: Any ALPHAbook (Tadpole) users out there?X. Message-ID: <Aah6Fd4574zc@tachxxsoftxxconsult>  g In article <K$fhnEV2FwGm@eisner.decus.org>, Kilgallen@eisner.decus.org.nospam (Larry Kilgallen) writes: p > In article <NqdBRbDZGgG1@tachxxsoftxxconsult>, wayne@tachysoft.xxx.331639.killspam.013e (Wayne Sewell) writes: > M >> I have no doubt that if affordable alpha laptops existed, a lot of people, O >> maybe the entire readership of c.o.v, would get one.  I have been wanting antP >> alphabook for years.  Based on comments seen here from time to time, a lot of >> other people have too.y >  > But not everyone.  > E > It would be an interesting toy, but I could not justify (to myself) E > something I would not use.  If laptops were that important, I would-C > carry around the Macintosh laptop I own, rather than reserving itl4 > for development of laptop-relevant Macintosh code. > D > I live my life with a lot of computing every day, but no desire toB > carry it with me.  People who do more long distance travel might > feel differently.y  L It depends on what kind of travel you are talking about.  If you are talkingO about vacation (holiday for those over the pond), I concede your point.  If you N are talking about a work trip, an alphabook would be extremely valuable if theK work was vms-related, which all of mine is.  You can even connect it to thePO customer's network (assuming they don't mind) and tranfer files directly in and. out of the laptop.  O All I'm saying is that *if* I need a laptop (which I do), I would rather have at" vms laptop than a billybox laptop.   -- -O ===============================================================================PM Wayne Sewell, Tachyon Software Consulting  (281)812-0738  wayne@tachysoft.xxxs: http://www.tachysoft.xxx/www/tachyon.html and wayne.html  K change .xxx to .com in addresses above, assuming you are not a spambot  :-)HO ==============================================================================="C Jake Blues: "Sell me your children!  How much for the little girl?"r   ------------------------------  % Date: Wed, 03 May 2000 10:05:01 -0700n! From: Shane.F.Smith@healthnet.comp Subject: Apache 1.3.4 for VMS?8 Message-ID: <882568D4.005DDC1F.00@WHDOM99.HEALTHNET.COM>  . From: Shane F Smith@FHS on 05/03/2000 10:05 AM     To:   Info-Vax@mvb.saic.comm cc:o Subject:  Apache 1.3.4 for VMS?2  P I have a colleague who believes that there used to be a version 1.3.4 Apache forO VMS somewhere, and he wants a copy. The only one I know of is the 1.3.9 beta onvJ Compaq's website. Can anyone confirm whether any of the earlier betas were9 1.3.4, and if so can anyone tell me where to look for it?c  O Less importantly, apparently the latest Intel version is 1.3.12. Anyone know ifAD there are plans to get in step with the Intel version in the future?      H  #####   ---------------------------------------------------------------I #-O-O-# | Shane underbar S on pacbell dot net. Spam to abuse@127.0.0.1  |uH #  L  #  ---------------------------------------------------------------D  #===#   Don't blame HealthNet for anything I say. They're innocent.H   ###    OpenVMS: The operating system God runs the Earth simulation on.   ------------------------------  8 Date: Wed, 3 May 2000 14:46:56 +0100 (GMT Daylight Time) From: <Andy.Harper@kcl.ac.uk>b Subject: Re: cmu1 Message-ID: <SIMEON.10005031456.P@odin.kcl.ac.uk>e   Andy,o  G I for one appreciate your work on the CMU-OpenVMS/IP FAQ and especiallyaE your "unofficial" CMU-OpenVMS/IP web page and file archive site. YoursE site was the only place I was able to find that contained any current = information on CMU-OpenVMS/IP. Thank you for maintaining thisO repository.   D As for the FAQ, the new HTML format is much more convenient than the four part text FAQ.   C What is the current status of CMU-OpenVMS/IP development? Is anyoneoH still working on or interested in working on this product? I am not able4 to connect to the site you have listed as the masterA (ftp://cvobku.cvo.mp.usbr.gov/cmuip/). Nor can I connect to Cliveg8 Nicols' site (ftp://baby.bedroom.gen.nz/vms/cmuip665L/).  1= I think that it benefits the VMS community as a whole to haveo@ implementations (with source code) of core network protocols and utilities freely available.e  tH I have cross posted this to COV because I think other VMS users would beH interested in your site. I have seen very little (if any) traffic in the
 cmu-tek goup.n   Andy Harper wrote: > H > I know that cmu is a little dated now, but there are still quite a fewM > users out there. As such, I've been making some changes to the FAQ to bringrJ > it up to date. More specifically, it is now in a preliminary HTML format > (pending comments).e > M > I'ld be grateful if those with an interest could take a look and supply anyaK > comments. Also, if anyone who has contributed to cmu over the years reads-L > this, please check that the URLs are still correct for your contributions.K > Some of the links are out of date and I've been unable to contact some of8? > those concerned. In particular Henry Miller and Don Stokes...d > L > Also, some links that are still valid do not work due to a bad interactionG > between some web browsers and some ftp servers. Please check your own H > servers against as many web browsers as possible (important ones beingM > explorer 5 and netscape 4) and fix any problems that may occur. As far as InK > can tell, its the CMU ftp server (replace with madgoat ftp) and digital'sm4 > UCX ftp server (ditto) that are the main culprits. > 
 > The Url is:-4 >   http://www.agh.cc.kcl.ac.uk/files/vms/cmu-tcpip/ >  > Thanks > 
 > Andy Harperp > Kings College London   -- Anthony J. Anderson    NE LAN Services    ALLTEL (Remove [NO]SPAM to reply)   ------------------------------  $ Date: Wed, 3 May 2000 08:13:30 -05001 From: "Dave Gudewicz" <david.gudewicz@abbott.com>t& Subject: Re: Console Firmware From VMS8 Message-ID: <8ep8fd$st7$1@fizban.fizban.pprd.abbott.com>  J The serial number that show cpu/full returned was the serial number of theK system in the case of the DS20Es mentioned below.  I checked the sticker on & the back of the box and verified this.   Dave...n  K Dirk Munk <munk@home.nl> wrote in message news:390A14F7.D802383C@home.nl...H >d >  > Dave Gudewicz wrote: > >rL > > It depends.  I know I didn't enter the serial number in SRM for a couple ofF > > new DS20Es we have here and show cpu/full shows the serial number. Other@K > > systems do not.  Maybe newer systems are having this done when they are@ > > built.  Dunno for sure." >hA > That maybe the CPU serial number, not the system serial number.aH > European systems mostly have serial numbers beginning with AY for Ayre, > in Scotland, or GA for Gallway in Ireland. >: >1 > >  > > Dave...t > >CJ > > > Did you enter the serial number in the SRM console ? I did, and show cpuaI > > > /full does show me the serial number now, but you have to enter the 0 > > > serial number manually in the SRM console. > > >. > > > >, > > > >  --e> > > > > Tim Llewellyn, OpenVMS Infrastructure, Remarcs Project8 > > > > MedAS at the BBC, Whiteladies Road, Bristol, UK.I > > > > Email tim.llewellyn@bbc.co.uk. Home tim.llewellyn@cableinet.co.ukm > > > >II > > > > I speak for myself only and my views in no way represent those ofw > > > > MedAS or the BBC.h   ------------------------------   Date: 3 May 2000 13:34:14 GMT'2 From: hoffman@xdelta.zko.dec.nospam (Hoff Hoffman)& Subject: Re: Console Firmware From VMS6 Message-ID: <8ep9sm$c3t$1@mailint03.im.hou.compaq.com>  l In article <8ep8fd$st7$1@fizban.fizban.pprd.abbott.com>, "Dave Gudewicz" <david.gudewicz@abbott.com> writes:K :The serial number that show cpu/full returned was the serial number of the L :system in the case of the DS20Es mentioned below.  I checked the sticker on' :the back of the box and verified this.,  F   The answer is still "it depends" -- it depends on whether or not theE   sys_serial_num console environment variable was set up.  I've seen sD   some systems with this SRM value initialized, and some without it.   :Dave Gudewicz wrote:  :pJ : It depends.  I know I didn't enter the serial number in SRM for a coupleI : of new DS20Es we have here and show cpu/full shows the serial number...   N  --------------------------- pure personal opinion ---------------------------L    Hoff (Stephen) Hoffman   OpenVMS Engineering   hoffman#xdelta.zko.dec.com   ------------------------------  $ Date: Tue, 2 May 2000 23:19:14 +02002 From: "Frits A.M. Storms" <frits@storms.tmfweb.nl>G Subject: Re: DCL-equivalent for COBOL WRITE WITH NO ADVANCING wanted...E* Message-ID: <8eok63$7qk$1@cyan.nl.gxn.net>   Ahem.D! I meant DISPLAY WITH NO ADVANCING  Just a detail....E   ------------------------------  % Date: Wed, 03 May 2000 10:59:24 +0200i= From: Arne =?iso-8859-1?Q?Vajh=F8j?= <arne.vajhoej@gtech.com>tG Subject: Re: DCL-equivalent for COBOL WRITE WITH NO ADVANCING wanted...i& Message-ID: <390FEA6C.372A6@gtech.com>   "Frits A.M. Storms" wrote:? > Is there another way to write to a terminal WITHOUT the extra  > carriage-return-linefeed ?   See:  0 http://www.levitte.org/~ava/tip/writenocrlf.html   Arne   ------------------------------   Date: 3 May 2000 15:18:42 GMTn0 From: FAZEKAS Mihaly <michael@goliat.eik.bme.hu> Subject: Eprom imagesb, Message-ID: <8epg0i$eec$1@goliat.eik.bme.hu>  D Where can i find new eprom images for MicroVAX III and MicroVAX II ?   --    mailto:michael@goliat.eik.bme.hu Phone: 463-1966o   ------------------------------   Date: 3 May 2000 15:29:41 GMT 2 From: hoffman@xdelta.zko.dec.nospam (Hoff Hoffman) Subject: Re: Eprom imagesn6 Message-ID: <8epgl5$f9v$1@mailint03.im.hou.compaq.com>  _ In article <8epg0i$eec$1@goliat.eik.bme.hu>, FAZEKAS Mihaly <michael@goliat.eik.bme.hu> writes:8E :Where can i find new eprom images for MicroVAX III and MicroVAX II ?A  B   I'm not aware of anyone particularly needing new versions of theB   console and of the VMB primary bootstrap image -- this comprises3   the contents of the PROMs used on these systems. t  =   What's up?  Is there any particular problem you are seeing?a  E   What version of the PROMs do you have?  (What is the version numbere8   string displayed during the system power-up messages?)  C   If you want to pursue this, the folks at Compaq Assisted ServicescC   (for self-maintenance) or at Compaq Field Services (for contract x?   hardware maintenance) are probably the best folks to contact.    	--t  H   I am aware of some very early KA650 CPUs lacking the command language G   found on the majority of the KA650 CPUs shipped -- the very earliest  H   KA650 console PROMs looked and worked rather like their KA630 console F   predecessor, and used the KA630 "sniffer" bootstrap.  Later versionsE   of the console have HELP, and permit/require the system operator tofB   target a specific bootstrap device -- the "sniffer" was removed.  N  --------------------------- pure personal opinion ---------------------------L    Hoff (Stephen) Hoffman   OpenVMS Engineering   hoffman#xdelta.zko.dec.com   ------------------------------  $ Date: Wed, 3 May 2000 08:55:57 +0200 From: "Wim" <wim@wanadoo.nl> Subject: ERRFMT not foundf* Message-ID: <8eoiii$70u$1@news1.xs4all.nl>   Hello,  < I can start ERRFMT on one of our nodes ( VAX 6520 VMS 5.5-2)K I try yo start it with @sys$system:startup errfmt     !but nothing happends I I dont get any error messages what so ever, any one know what I can do tod! start errfmt without rebooting???a     Regards Wim    ------------------------------  $ Date: Wed, 3 May 2000 10:22:24 +0200 From: "Wim" <wim@wanadoo.nl> Subject: Re: ERRFMT not found-* Message-ID: <8eonkn$c90$1@news1.xs4all.nl>  J Wim <wim@wanadoo.nl> wrote in message news:8eoiii$70u$1@news1.xs4all.nl... > Hello, >l> > I can start ERRFMT on one of our nodes ( VAX 6520 VMS 5.5-2)D > I try yo start it with @sys$system:startup errfmt     !but nothing happendsK > I dont get any error messages what so ever, any one know what I can do to.# > start errfmt without rebooting???: >: >y
 > Regards Wimp >) >e >o  
 I found it Reply/enable did the trick   The response was  ' ERRFMT - ERROR ACCESSING ERROR LOG FILEu %RMS-F-RSZ, invalid record sizeu   VAXE>f8 %%%%%%%%%%%  OPCOM   3-MAY-2000 10:22:39.25  %%%%%%%%%%%  Message from user SYSTEM on VAXE  ERRFMT - DELETING ERRFMT PROCESS ERROR LOG FILE UNWRITABLEs; TO RESTART ERRFMT PROCESS, USE "@SYS$SYSTEM:STARTUP ERRFMT"o   Byeo >    ------------------------------  # Date: Wed, 03 May 2000 10:22:53 GMTh From: reuvenl@amdocs.com Subject: Re: ERRFMT not founds) Message-ID: <8eouli$hkl$1@nnrp1.deja.com>r  * In article <8eoiii$70u$1@news1.xs4all.nl>,   "Wim" <wim@wanadoo.nl> wrote:- > Hello, > > > I can start ERRFMT on one of our nodes ( VAX 6520 VMS 5.5-2)M > I try yo start it with @sys$system:startup errfmt     !but nothing happends K > I dont get any error messages what so ever, any one know what I can do to # > start errfmt without rebooting???  > 
 > Regards Wim  > 8 >  if you don't get any information in ana/error/sin....!    1. look for the ERRFMT procces-?       (if it's not up look for mail in system account that says %        ERRFMT - i bring you bad news) J    2. try to look since when there is no account ana/error/sin=01-jan-1999H        (if there is go on until there is no data - just for information)I    3. try to look in sh account/sin... for reason why the process stoped. K    4. look if there is no quota limit that caused the proccess termination.hC       (if there is increse quota mc disquota>modi [uic] /perm=xxxx)     5. log in as system     6. @sys$system:startup errfmt;    7. if the proccess still terminates (no errfmt proccess)p3       ren sys$errorlog:errlog.sys and start 6 againh  	 good luckl Reuven      & Sent via Deja.com http://www.deja.com/ Before you buy.n   ------------------------------  % Date: Wed, 03 May 2000 10:20:03 -0400o1 From: "Mark D. Jilson" <jilly@clarityconnect.com>d Subject: Re: ERRFMT not foundd2 Message-ID: <39103593.67A3780C@clarityconnect.com>  E This problem usually has to do with the error log buffers that are intE the SYSDUMP.DMP file.  I've sent you 2 articles from DSNlink that maym help- [SHADOW] RMS-F-RSZ Error When Starting ERRFMTI6 [OpenVMS] RMS-F-RSZ Error When ERRFMT Fails At Startup  
 Wim wrote: > L > Wim <wim@wanadoo.nl> wrote in message news:8eoiii$70u$1@news1.xs4all.nl...
 > > Hello, > > @ > > I can start ERRFMT on one of our nodes ( VAX 6520 VMS 5.5-2)F > > I try yo start it with @sys$system:startup errfmt     !but nothing
 > happendsM > > I dont get any error messages what so ever, any one know what I can do tol% > > start errfmt without rebooting???e > >> > >I > > Regards Wimh > >t > >o > >n >  > I found it > Reply/enable did the trick >  > The response was > ) > ERRFMT - ERROR ACCESSING ERROR LOG FILEl! > %RMS-F-RSZ, invalid record size  >  > VAXE>w: > %%%%%%%%%%%  OPCOM   3-MAY-2000 10:22:39.25  %%%%%%%%%%%" > Message from user SYSTEM on VAXE" > ERRFMT - DELETING ERRFMT PROCESS > ERROR LOG FILE UNWRITABLE = > TO RESTART ERRFMT PROCESS, USE "@SYS$SYSTEM:STARTUP ERRFMT"  >  > Byet > >e   --  D Jilly	- Working from Home in the Chemung River Valley - Lockwood, NY0 	- jilly@clarityconnect.com			- Brett Bodine fan. 	- Mark.Jilson@Compaq.com			- since 1975 or so, 	- http://www.jilly.baka.com               -   ------------------------------  # Date: Wed, 03 May 2000 16:12:36 GMTi. From: "Bill McLaughlin" <mcbill20@hotmail.com>, Subject: Fwd: FW: Changing File Create Dates4 Message-ID: <20000503161236.79771.qmail@hotmail.com>   James,J you don't have to write macro code to accomplish this . You can do an ACP K QIO from any language. However, the easiest way to do this is probably the =L DFU utility on the VMS freeware CD.  I have the latest and greatest version D (2.7) so I can't say for sure if older versions had this capability.  K Within the DFU utility you can change the creation date, backup date, etc. n$ and even the access date on VMS 7.2.  L DFU is very easy to use and install and I highly recommend it. Just look at 7 the freeware link off the www.openvms.digital.com page.-   I hope this helps.   Bill McLaughlina     >1 >6 >-----Original Message-----f >From: James Norris [mailto:]n$ >Sent: Tuesday, May 02, 2000 8:30 PM
 >To: Info-VAXs( >Subject: Re: Changing File Create Dates >x >t >o >l >Jack Trachtman wrote: >wK > > I have a one-time need to change the create dates on about 50 files andt > > directories. > >BI > > I can't find any direct way to do it, and my assembly language pgmingy > > skills are VERY rusty. > > L > > Can anyone point me to a utility for our Alpha OVMS V7.1-1H2 system that > > It > > can use for this?, >uK >It would not be especially difficult to write a program to accomplish thisn% >task in any language of your choice.fH >These dates are all stored in the file header, and INDEXF.SYS contains  >them. >i >Jim >u >   H ________________________________________________________________________H Get Your Private, Free E-mail from MSN Hotmail at http://www.hotmail.com   ------------------------------  % Date: Wed, 03 May 2000 13:24:26 +0200.- From: aalimari <aalimari@best.ms.philips.com>e. Subject: getting stack dumps/traces, continued3 Message-ID: <39100C69.2772F1AC@best.ms.philips.com>l  
 Hello all,  D Some time ago here was a discussion in this news group about gettingB stack trace information in the program without making it to crash.    There was a piece of code given:    
 > #include >  #includeo >  #includet >e	 >  main()  >      {& >      char ascic_debug_commands[128];, >      char *dbgcmd = "*show calls;go;exit"; >t. >      strcpy( ascic_debug_commands, dbgcmd );= >      ascic_debug_commands[0] = (char) strlen( dbgcmd ) - 1;t >f4 >      lib$signal(SS$_DEBUG,1,ascic_debug_commands); >m >      return 1; >      } >.  B How do I pick up the debugger's output in my program into a string buffer?=  E Another problem I have is that I do not see any output when X-WindowsnD debugger is configured. How do I force a command line version of the/ debugger to be used from within the code above.s   Some background:F I create my C++ exception which has to remember current stack trace inE it's constructror i.e. when exception is thrown. This information may . later be used to print stack dump when needed.  H May be there are other ways to do this, like suggested walking the stackC (e.g. like on NT there are functions to walk stack and get symbolicD! information about the functions).r  G Compatibility with VAX or versions of VMS prior to 7.1 is not an issue.oG Undocumented features also will do. I am newbie in VMS, so code samplese would be of great help.   $ Any help would be geatly appreciated Thanks for your time   Artem Alimarineo   ------------------------------   Date: 3 May 2000 13:24:35 GMTe2 From: hoffman@xdelta.zko.dec.nospam (Hoff Hoffman)2 Subject: Re: getting stack dumps/traces, continued6 Message-ID: <8ep9aj$c3j$1@mailint03.im.hou.compaq.com>  c In article <39100C69.2772F1AC@best.ms.philips.com>, aalimari <aalimari@best.ms.philips.com> writes: C :How do I pick up the debugger's output in my program into a string- :buffer?  E   That example is a (corrupted) version of an example I wrote up and -F   posted a while back.  A full example -- with the include files -- is   appended below.t  F :Another problem I have is that I do not see any output when X-Windows :debugger is configured. u  C   The first and most obvious approach here -- to figure out why you4H   do not see the output -- would be to use the character cell interface.B   You'll also want to confirm that the display information for theB   application is correct, and you will want to confirm the processF   context for the application (eg: detached, interactive, batch, etc).  - :How do I force a command line version of the 0 :debugger to be used from within the code above.  E   There is no X Windows debugger, there is only the OpenVMS Debugger.eD   (Well, and the DELTA and XDELTA debuggers, but they are not reallyB   that relevent here.)  The OpenVMS Debugger has a character cell F   interface, a Microsoft Windows and Windows NT client interface, and    a DECwindows interface.t  F   (If you want to force the use of the character cell interface by theA   debugger, define the logical name DBG$DECW$DISPLAY to be "  ".)o   :Some background:5 :I create my C++ exception ...  D   Depending on the OpenVMS version and the Compaq C++ version, thereE   can be a newer version of the debugger needed than the version that I   ships with OpenVMS.  (When posting, please always include the relevent e   product version information.)v  - :which has to remember current stack trace inn2 :it's constructror i.e. when exception is thrown.   A   This sounds rather non-modular, and potentially rather nasty...A  D :This information may later be used to print stack dump when needed.  G   Write the information to a file.  Getting it back from the file undercE   program control is interesting.  If you really need the information E   back, it might be easier (and it will be supported) to program the  D   debugger to write the data you need back into a variable and then J   invoke a program routine to deal with it.  This approach will obviously I   be tricky and rather more involved with stuff like traversing the call nI   stack, but the basic mechanism is quite simple with the EXAMINE and theo4   DEPOSIT and CALL commands present in the debugger.  I :May be there are other ways to do this, like suggested walking the stackmD :(e.g. like on NT there are functions to walk stack and get symbolic" :information about the functions).  G   You can use the available LIB$ RTL routines -- the invocation contextmF   routines -- to walk the call stack.  Check the RTL documentation for5   details on LIB$GET_CURR_INVO_CONTEXT and friends....  G   I am aware of various stuff that walked the stack on OpenVMS VAX (andgI   wrote some of it myself), and it's not a technique that I can or would  G   recommend for general use within an application program.  Walking the2J   stack is rather tougher on OpenVMS Alpha than on OpenVMS VAX -- see the '   calling standard for details, here...g  H :Compatibility with VAX or versions of VMS prior to 7.1 is not an issue.% :Undocumented features also will do. n  C   Use of undocumented features is discouraged, as these are subjectk   to change without notice.o  < :I am newbie in VMS, so code samples would be of great help.  H   Get and read the programming concepts manual, and the calling standardI   manual, and the debugger manual, if you are messing about in this area.r  K   I would strongly encourage incorporating at least some debugging support hK   directly into your image.  The debugger is a very useful tool, but there  K   are tasks best left up to the application and the application programmer.CH   Tracing program activity in large and complex application environmentsH   is one such task -- you can certainly do this in the debugger, but theJ   debugger is intended as an interactive tool, and a purpose-built loggingI   and tracing tool can be invaluable.  (This integrated debugging supportoI   can certainly use the OpenVMS debugger for some operations, of course.)n  N  --------------------------- pure personal opinion ---------------------------L    Hoff (Stephen) Hoffman   OpenVMS Engineering   hoffman#xdelta.zko.dec.com   	--e   #include <lib$routines.h>  #include <ssdef.h> #include <string.h>l   main()     {.#     char ascic_debug_commands[128]; )     char *dbgcmd = "*show calls;go;exit";t  +     strcpy( ascic_debug_commands, dbgcmd );-:     ascic_debug_commands[0] = (char) strlen( dbgcmd ) - 1;  1     lib$signal(SS$_DEBUG,1,ascic_debug_commands);u  
     return 1;e     }r   ------------------------------  # Date: Wed, 03 May 2000 10:13:15 GMTa From: philippes@my-deja.comi! Subject: How add a machine in UASc) Message-ID: <8eou3i$h1i$1@nnrp1.deja.com>e   I have the following message :2 Must have an account in UAS for machine name MULTI   How can do it ?E   Thanks   Philippe    & Sent via Deja.com http://www.deja.com/ Before you buy.s   ------------------------------   Date: 3 May 2000 15:15:44 +0200n* From: eplan@kapsch.net (Peter LANGSTOEGER)% Subject: Re: How add a machine in UASo* Message-ID: <39102680$1@news.kapsch.co.at>  G In article <8eou3i$h1i$1@nnrp1.deja.com>, philippes@my-deja.com writes:  >I have the following message : 3 >Must have an account in UAS for machine name MULTIo >p >How can do it ?   Server manager on NT ?  ; Oh, you mean PATHWORKS/Advanced Server ? ADMIN ADD COMPUTER-  = Better give more infos on environment, goal and problems, andaM try also VMSNET.NETWORKS.DESKTOP.PATHWORKS (if it's pathworks, what you have)    -- 4< Peter "EPLAN" LANGSTOEGER           Tel.    +43 1 81111-2651; Network and OpenVMS system manager  Fax.    +43 1 81111-888a< FBFV/Information Services           E-mail  eplan@kapsch.netF <<< KAPSCH AG  Wagenseilgasse 1     PSImail PSI%(0232)281001141::EPLANH A-1121 VIENNA  AUSTRIA              "I'm not a pessimist, I'm a realist"N "VMS is today what Microsoft wants Windows NT V8.0 to be!" Compaq, 22-Sep-1998   ------------------------------  # Date: Wed, 03 May 2000 15:42:43 GMT@ From: philippes@my-deja.comr% Subject: Re: How add a machine in UASr) Message-ID: <8ephde$71l$1@nnrp1.deja.com>r  * In article <39102680$1@news.kapsch.co.at>,   eplan@kapsch.net wrote:cA > In article <8eou3i$h1i$1@nnrp1.deja.com>, philippes@my-deja.com0 writes:4! > >I have the following message :e5 > >Must have an account in UAS for machine name MULTID > >p > >How can do it ? >e > Server manager on NT ? >e= > Oh, you mean PATHWORKS/Advanced Server ? ADMIN ADD COMPUTERm >a? > Better give more infos on environment, goal and problems, and-E > try also VMSNET.NETWORKS.DESKTOP.PATHWORKS (if it's pathworks, whatn	 you have)  >f thanks > --> > Peter "EPLAN" LANGSTOEGER           Tel.    +43 1 81111-2651= > Network and OpenVMS system manager  Fax.    +43 1 81111-888K> > FBFV/Information Services           E-mail  eplan@kapsch.netH > <<< KAPSCH AG  Wagenseilgasse 1     PSImail PSI%(0232)281001141::EPLANA > A-1121 VIENNA  AUSTRIA              "I'm not a pessimist, I'm af realist"H > "VMS is today what Microsoft wants Windows NT V8.0 to be!" Compaq, 22- Sep-1998 >t    & Sent via Deja.com http://www.deja.com/ Before you buy.r   ------------------------------  % Date: Wed, 03 May 2000 10:04:15 -0400n1 From: "Mark D. Jilson" <jilly@clarityconnect.com>r8 Subject: Re: how do I write sysgen parameter permanently1 Message-ID: <391031DF.31B0976@clarityconnect.com>c  H Here is an illustration of CURRENT vs ACTIVE and changing a parameter inE the current parameter file on disk or in the active parameter list inr memory.A   $ MCR SYSGEN SYSGEN>  SHOW QUANTUM H Parameter Name           Current    Default     Min.      Max.     Unit  DynamicoH --------------           -------    -------    -------   -------   ----  -------uA QUANTUM                        20         20         2      32767e 10Ms       D SYSGEN>  USE CURRENT SYSGEN>  SHOW QUANTUMaH Parameter Name           Current    Default     Min.      Max.     Unit  Dynamic-H --------------           -------    -------    -------   -------   ----  -------fA QUANTUM                        20         20         2      32767- 10Ms       D SYSGEN>  SET QUANTUM 12y SYSGEN>  WRITE CURRENT SYSGEN>  SHOW QUANTUMnH Parameter Name           Current    Default     Min.      Max.     Unit  Dynamic,H --------------           -------    -------    -------   -------   ----  ------- A QUANTUM                        12         20         2      32767g 10Ms       D SYSGEN>  USE ACTIVE  SYSGEN>  SHOW QUANTUM H Parameter Name           Current    Default     Min.      Max.     Unit  Dynamic-H --------------           -------    -------    -------   -------   ----  -------uA QUANTUM                        20         20         2      32767l 10Ms       D SYSGEN>  USE CURRENT   SYSGEN>  SHOW QUANTUM$H Parameter Name           Current    Default     Min.      Max.     Unit  Dynamic6H --------------           -------    -------    -------   -------   ----  -------gA QUANTUM                        12         20         2      32767n 10Ms       D SYSGEN>  USE ACTIVEt SYSGEN>  SET QUANTUM 12: SYSGEN>  SHOW QUANTUM)H Parameter Name           Current    Default     Min.      Max.     Unit  DynamicEH --------------           -------    -------    -------   -------   ----  -------%A QUANTUM                        12         20         2      32767  10Ms       D
 SYSGEN>  EXITT     JF Mezei wrote:R > * > > From: Joe [mailto:joecarlos@yahoo.com]O > > Hi, Every time i change a paramater quantum or something else. i type write-O > > current. then i exit when i get back i is back to what it was. i am affraid:J > > of using write default because it seems to me that it would affect theL > > setting for every time a restart the server. may be i should. any ideas? > 5 > "current" means your permanent active configuration  > O > "active" means your live dynamic system. (parameters with a "D" in the "SHOW"  > are dynamic ande* > will change as soon as you WRITE ACTIVE. > L > after a "write current", you must reboot for these changes to take effect. > V > also, when you start sysgen, you can "USE CURRENT" or "USE ACTIVE" or "USE filename" > H > SHOW/DYN will display all paramenters that you can change dynamically. >  > USE ACTIVE > SET QUANTUM xx > WRITE ACTIVE >  > will do the trick.T > When you reboot, the CURRENT parameters (not reflecting your change) will be used. > N > After the WRITE ACTIVE, you can also do WRITE CURRENT if you want the change > to become permanent. > M > Also, note that you should also check the file MODPARAMS.DAT to see if thateN > parameter is listed there and modifiy it there accordingly. MODPARAMS.DAT isO > used with AUTOGEN and should contain all paramenters that you need you systemp
 > to have.   -- oD Jilly	- Working from Home in the Chemung River Valley - Lockwood, NY0 	- jilly@clarityconnect.com			- Brett Bodine fan. 	- Mark.Jilson@Compaq.com			- since 1975 or so, 	- http://www.jilly.baka.com               -   ------------------------------  % Date: Wed, 03 May 2000 17:33:18 +0100-- From: Tim Llewellyn <tim.llewellyn@bbc.co.uk>hH Subject: HP Laserjet Escape Sequences for VMS printing documented where?) Message-ID: <391054CE.F331506C@bbc.co.uk>    Hi  G I've been having more fun with blank pages and HP Laserjets. Especiallye fun G when you've got a load of printers configured and don't know what modelm they& are, when they were last upgraded etc.  G Anyway, I've managed to make some progress on the blank page issue (oner blank(H page in landscape mode, none in portrait, as compared to two blank pages  C always before) and have been getting quite friendly with the HP websA pages on Laserjet configuration. However, I see no mention of theb   {ESC}]VMS;2{ESC}\I  5 sequence mentioned in the OpenVMS Ask The Wizard area  at www.openvms.digital.com.   H My question is, is this sequence documented by HP anywhere? If so where?  8 I did look sveeral times, honest, maybe not hard enough.   --6 Tim Llewellyn, OpenVMS Infrastructure, Remarcs Project0 MedAS at the BBC, Whiteladies Road, Bristol, UK.A Email tim.llewellyn@bbc.co.uk. Home tim.llewellyn@cableinet.co.uk"  A I speak for myself only and my views in no way represent those ofn MedAS or the BBC.C   ------------------------------  % Date: Wed, 03 May 2000 11:07:25 +0200o= From: Arne =?iso-8859-1?Q?Vajh=F8j?= <arne.vajhoej@gtech.com>t: Subject: Re: Humble request for a modification to VMS Mail) Message-ID: <390FEC4D.532B9740@gtech.com>2   David Spencer wrote:I > For years I have clung happily to VMS mail as my primary emailer. And ItI > wish to continue to do so. I just have one simple little wish: couldn't'E > it be enhanced to include a way to modify message subject lines? So B > often I receive emails with irrelant subjects or none at all. ItE > would be so very, very nice to be able to revise them and make thems6 > useful when I go a-hunting for archived information.  ; For those that want to code such a utility there are a goodg starting point in:  0 http://www.levitte.org/~ava/split/mailmanip.html   Arne   ------------------------------  % Date: Wed, 03 May 2000 09:37:00 -0400a. From: Michael Austin <maustin@nc.prestige.net>: Subject: Re: Humble request for a modification to VMS Mail/ Message-ID: <39102B7C.D4FB686B@nc.prestige.net>s  , This is a multi-part message in MIME format.& --------------15C94E924034A0B285DBAF12* Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit   P I usually don't use the message title to tell me what I am looking for.  I wouldR generally use the search feature to locate documents, especially if I don't recallM where I put it.  Worked for me.  Although now most of my email is done on theoR windoze environment and I all my mail forwarded to that address.  Unfortunately, IO can find none of the windoze apps that had the search capabilities of VMS mail.n   Michael Austin DBA Consultant   David Spencer wrote:  > > In article <390f7fe5_2@dilbert.ic.sunysb.edu>, Jerome LAURET$ > <jlauret@?.chem.sunysb.edu> wrote: >_G > > |>No Kidding! I access my mail via telnet and the command-line modeHJ > > |>so I never tried that. Now if only they were to update the line-mode > > |>interface... > > |> > > |>-- Dave Spencera > >iO > >         Then, you might consider PINE for VMS. A 'MUST' !! I use it all theDK > > time and rarely use VMS mail (unless I have to move a bunch of selectede > > messages$ > > from folder to folders/drawers). > > L > >         In my opinion (don't blame/flame for this) : I don't think it is > > relevantN > > to spend time on further developping the native Email interface as long asP > > freeware exists and do the job just fine if not better (attachment etc... in > > pineP > > is there ... people always ask how to do that from native interface. I don't > > quite understand why). > F > A reasonable suggestion - I hadn't considered using PINE. I'll chaseD > down a copy and take a look. Obviously I'm not the first person toF > notice this problem. Of course it's not a high priority item, but itJ > sure would be nice if somebody in engineering could look at it anyway ;) >  > -- Dave Spenceru  & --------------15C94E924034A0B285DBAF12- Content-Type: text/x-vcard; charset=us-ascii;o  name="maustin.vcf"e Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bitn, Content-Description: Card for Michael Austin  Content-Disposition: attachment;  filename="maustin.vcf"e   begin:vcard  n:Austin;Michael   tel;work:704-947-1089t x-mozilla-html:FALSE org:Michael Austin, Ince
 adr:;;;;;; version:2.1a+ email;internet:michaelaustininc@hotmail.comi title:Presidentb x-mozilla-cpt:;0 fn:Michael E. Austin	 end:vcardo  ( --------------15C94E924034A0B285DBAF12--   ------------------------------   Date: 3 May 2000 07:01:29 GMT & From: Ellis E Hardin <eeh01@gnofn.org>8 Subject: Re: Is there any online documentation for LG06?, Message-ID: <8eois9$1em4$1@junkie.gnofn.org>  ? In comp.os.vms Robert J. Slover <slover@Rose-Hulman.Edu> wrote:: !Greetings,s !k9 !I've been looking for online documentation for the LG06,0: !with no luck.  Specifically, I need a table of the escape6 !sequences for this printer.  We have 2 copies of the 7 !manual that were kept with the printer...but I went upr; !there and the printer had been move 2 years ago and no onet- !knows exactly where the manuals were placed.o !d6 !Any help would be greatly appreciated.  Otherwise I'm0 !stuck with buying another copy of the manual...  > 	Well, I can save you a little money by telling you not to buyF another copy of the manual.  I just had a look at ours and there is noA table of escape sequences in it.  Unless I'm looking at the wrongtE manual...  It's the little Operator's manual that's stored inside ther printer.   --  # -- Ellis Hardin,  <eeh01@gnofn.org>w   ------------------------------  % Date: Wed, 03 May 2000 09:44:04 +0100t, From: Paul BEAUDOIN <paul.beaudoin@hsbc.com>2 Subject: Memo:   Re: Dropping DECnet..don't do it!: Message-ID: <802568D4.002FFCC6.00@lithium.systems.uk.hsbc>  ; There are about 20 manuals making up the Phase V functionalaF description. In each there is a section showing the CMIP codes used toE request data and how to interpret for that part (most often layer). Io can:=      Send you a list of the manual order numbers. (not cheap) 5      Send you some sample code (for my sins in Macro) D      Offer some friendly advice: Avoid this stuff - it is hard, long and tedious. Even a sampleC      to show basic mechanism will run to 10+ pages of coding but ifS  you insist, I will happily help.   Paul            D ********************************************************************B  This message and any attachments are confidential to the ordinaryB  user of the e-mail address to which it was addressed and may also>  be privileged. If you are not the addressee you may not copy,8  forward, disclose or use any part of the message or itsC  attachments and if you have received this message in error, pleasedB  notify the sender immediately by return e-mail and delete it from
  your system.l  =  Internet communications cannot be guaranteed to be secure orhA  error-free as information could be intercepted, corrupted, lost,d>  arrive late or contain viruses. The sender therefore does not?  accept liability for any errors or omissions in the context of ?  this message which arise as a result of Internet transmission.n  vD  Any opinions contained in this message are those of the author and ?  are not given or endorsed by the HSBC Group company or office L=  through which this message is sent unless otherwise clearly aA  indicated in this message and the authority of the author to so  3  bind the HSBC entity referred to is duly verified.i  D ********************************************************************   ------------------------------  " Date: Wed, 3 May 2000 13:11:37 GMT9 From: Kilgallen@eisner.decus.org.nospam (Larry Kilgallen)C6 Subject: Re: Memo:   Re: Dropping DECnet..don't do it!+ Message-ID: <Dt$ilj64PtTr@eisner.decus.org>X  i In article <802568D4.002FFCC6.00@lithium.systems.uk.hsbc>, Paul BEAUDOIN <paul.beaudoin@hsbc.com> writes:s >  > = > There are about 20 manuals making up the Phase V functionaleH > description. In each there is a section showing the CMIP codes used toE > request data and how to interpret for that part (most often layer).t  7 "Codes" ?  Are you talking about an API or a protocol ?.  B I am looking for an API that can be used for controlling the local2 machine, as we have with Phase IV, not a protocol.   > I can:? >      Send you a list of the manual order numbers. (not cheap)i   I own the manuals.  7 >      Send you some sample code (for my sins in Macro)i  @ No, I don't need programming help, I need a page number where an API entrypoint is described.  F >      Offer some friendly advice: Avoid this stuff - it is hard, long > and tedious. Even a sampleE >      to show basic mechanism will run to 10+ pages of coding but ifC" > you insist, I will happily help.  > If you are talking about protocols, rather than APIs, there is= an ASN.1 description available for everything on OSI, so thatn9 should be straightforward.  Again, I am not looking for a : protocol which talks to other processes or other machines,A I am looking for an API analogous to that provided in NMLSHR.EXE.p   ------------------------------  # Date: Wed, 03 May 2000 12:43:24 GMTi0 From: carlini@true.lkg.dec.com (Antonio Carlini)6 Subject: Re: Memo:   Re: Dropping DECnet..don't do it!* Message-ID: <8ep6ac$to3@usenet.pa.dec.com>  T In article <Dt$ilj64PtTr@eisner.decus.org>, Kilgallen@eisner.decus.org.nospam wrote:C >I am looking for an API that can be used for controlling the locali3 >machine, as we have with Phase IV, not a protocol.s  O Is there a *documented* API for Phase IV? I know that there have been examples dL made available via DECUS and via the net of how to control a local Phase IV O machine (via NML calls?) and a remote Phase IV machine (via NICE) but I didn't iO think any of these appeared in official Digital documentation. (Actually since sN NICE is a protocol, it's probably documented somewhere but it doesn't seem to  match what you want).   ? >If you are talking about protocols, rather than APIs, there is-> >an ASN.1 description available for everything on OSI, so that: >should be straightforward.  Again, I am not looking for a; >protocol which talks to other processes or other machines,aB >I am looking for an API analogous to that provided in NMLSHR.EXE.  N I believe there is an API (CML?) but I think the reason it was decided not to E document it is that was considered to be a support nightmare. (It is  ' considerably trickier to use than NML).N  J I don't even know if there is any internal documentation available for it.   Antonioo  I Antonio Carlini                            Mail: carlini@true.lkg.dec.com4# DECnet-Plus for OpenVMS Engineering 6 COMPAQ                                     Reading, UK   ------------------------------  . Date: Wed, 3 May 2000 09:11:38 +0200 (MET DST)& From: Rudolf Wingert <win@fom.fgan.de>) Subject: Re: Moving data from VMS to UNIX-/ Message-ID: <200005030612.IAA27942@fom.fgan.de>i   Hello,  E >> any ideas? <<, yes. Install VMSTAR and use this freeware to exportmJ data to Solaris. The other one idea is to use the UCX <--> OpenVMS command/ RCP (remote copy), to send the file to Solaris.j   Regards Rudolf Wingert   ------------------------------  % Date: Wed, 03 May 2000 11:01:46 +02000= From: Arne =?iso-8859-1?Q?Vajh=F8j?= <arne.vajhoej@gtech.com>e) Subject: Re: Moving data from VMS to UNIXy) Message-ID: <390FEAFA.BD96FD09@gtech.com>n   JONES Christopher wrote:M > Is there a way to backup VMS files to tape and read the tape from a SolarisrM > UNIX box?  I need to export data from an Oracle database and import it intoU( > an Oracle database on a UNIX platform.  ? You need to choose a common format like TAR or ZIP and a commonP! media like 9 track or DAT or DLT.n   But yes - it is possible.-   Arne   ------------------------------  % Date: Wed, 03 May 2000 09:59:30 -0400n# From: Jim Agnew <agnew@hsc.vcu.edu>1) Subject: Re: Moving data from VMS to UNIX + Message-ID: <391030C2.220C1F54@hsc.vcu.edu>W  = how about simply zipping it, and ftp'ing it in binary??  THATV should work.   JONES Christopher wrote: > M > Is there a way to backup VMS files to tape and read the tape from a SolariseM > UNIX box?  I need to export data from an Oracle database and import it intoe6 > an Oracle database on a UNIX platform.  Any ideas??? >  > Christopher Jones0   ------------------------------  # Date: Wed, 03 May 2000 08:47:08 GMTw% From: "P.Lj" <plj@byron.ext.telia.se>y Subject: Re: MPI for OpenVMS?@2 Message-ID: <390FE687.39032233@byron.ext.telia.se>   Hi,v  K I am for the moment on my sparetime trying to port pvm3 to VMS, and lookingt further B towards mpich, I can soon provide an Alphabased development system   /P.Lje     David Mathog wrote:   B > Just out of curiosity, has anybody ever made MPI run on OpenVMS? > I > MPICH 1.2.0 works fine on the Linux boxes, but doesn't seem to have the  > string "vms" in it anywhere. > 	 > Thanks,6 >  > David Mathog > mathog@seqaxp.bio.caltech.edu @ > Manager, sequence analysis facility, biology division, Caltech   ------------------------------  % Date: Wed, 03 May 2000 12:30:28 +0100-B From: Andrew Harrison SUNUK Consultancy <andrew.nospam@uk.sun.com> Subject: Re: OpenVMS marketing* Message-ID: <39100DD4.C2201CFD@uk.sun.com>   Bill Todd wrote:  % > To respond to three levels at once:e > K > I like Phillip's idea a lot, my only question being just how Compaq would-F > structure the 'pay if you profit' license to be anything but a majorH > procedural mess.  But it would be nice to see Compaq at least try:  itH > would, among other things, serve as an indication that they really areG > interested in expanding VMS's user base, even in areas where it isn't-4 > particularly convenient or immediately profitable. >-M > Andrew's point, while valid, is less convincing:  just because Sun finds it6I > expedient to give away Solaris in the face of the Linux threat does not K > necessarily mean that Compaq should give away VMS (any more than it means-I > that Microsoft will give away W2K, especially the Server variants).  In-E > particular, as long as Compaq can structure easy-to-obtain free and M > very-low-cost VMS licenses to cover those people who are not willing to payNI > the (still relatively low) entry-level VMS price, there's absolutely noiN > reason to give VMS away to everyone:  it won't result in a single additionalJ > installation.  Only at the point where the overhead of administering theN > special free/low-cost programs approaches the profit generated by the payingH > VMS customers does giving away the system make sense (and even SolarisB > starts charging once you start using larger SMP configurations). >e  F Sun's pricing of Solaris 8 isn't in my opinion aimed at Linux directly+ though there may be some collateral damage.t  I The timing of the introduction of the package and the configurations thataD it is available for would indicate that Sun has W2K in it sights not Linux.  B We announced the package to coincide with the W2K introduction andE the the 8 CPU cut off point puts it squarely in the W2K market. Linux D barely plays in this area (2 CPU's) and if Sun had wanted to compete@ against Linux then a 2-4 CPU cut off point would have been fine.  D I think you can also assume that the Solaris licensing was not aimed@ at OpenVMS except in the sense that it might cause an acceptable level of collateral damage.   > Sun is trying to do is grow Solaris unit volumes both on IntelB and on Sparc because more units means a bigger market for software= which means more applications which in turn means more units.c  ? In this sense Sun's objectives are could be similar to Compaqs,e? that is assuming that Compaq want to grow OpenVMS unit volumes.o  < Sun however is not constrained by any need to keep Microsoft: sweet, something that is uppermost in the minds of Compaqs= senior management and that makes it possible fo Sun to behaveg. in a way that may not be expedient for Compaq.       >	 > - bill >i; > Terry C. Shannon <shannon@world.std.com> wrote in messaget" > news:FtxutI.LtD@world.std.com... > > ; > > "Phillip Helbig" <helbig@astro.rug.nl> wrote in message3, > > news:8emmqb$6vs$1@info.service.rug.nl...E > > > In article <390ED77D.F2C746B@uk.sun.com>, Andrew Harrison SUNUKc3 > > > Consultancy <andrew.nospam@uk.sun.com> wrote:. > > > 
 > > <snip> > > > >g: > > > > My understanding of the OpenVMS and Tru64 Hobbyist: > > > > programs are that they both preclude you using the( > > > > licences for commercial systems. > > > >g> > > > > You cannot for example set up as a small ISP using the" > > > > OpenVMS or Tru64 licenses. > > > >cG > > > > This is not the case with either Solaris or Linux both of whichrB > > > > are cheaper than either OpenVMS or Tru64 and both of which4 > > > > allow you to use them for commercial useage. > > > >CB > > > > This distinction between customers who are playing at home? > > > > and customers who are using your OS in cold blood seemsu9 > > > > to be a pretty pointless one in this day and age.s > > > >m@ > > > > Many of the .COM  startups that are now household names,; > > > > some of which have larger market caps than CPQ were ? > > > > started by people in their living rooms as a spare timel; > > > > occupation. Making people like this worry about thei= > > > > commercial/hobbyist issues will only make them choose-1 > > > > something that makes no such distinction.2 > > >o. > > > I find myself agreeing with Andrew here. > > >e+ > > > [Very long very philosophical pause.]o > >a1 > > Likewise. Andrew has a very valid point here.e > >m > >  > >    -- Andrew Harrisone Enterprise IT Architectt   ------------------------------  % Date: Wed, 03 May 2000 13:27:50 +0000s/ From: Nigel Arnot <sysmgr@maxwell.ph.kcl.ac.uk>  Subject: re:  OpenVMS marketingf6 Message-ID: <009E988B.D7631DE4.5@maxwell.ph.kcl.ac.uk>   > >  > >  Oh yes, the otherO > > lesson is not to buy stock in companies which are being mismanaged into the M > > ground - but I doubt many of you are feeling the urge to rush out and buyo > > Compaq stock.  > >e >  > 	Why not?r  K IMO, because Compaq management aren't obviously doing what most of us think-L needs doing with Digital. That would surely include active promotion of VMS!  H Of course, a speculator can make money off a rally even if the long-term= trend is down ... but I'd far rather back a long-term winner.s > ? > 	Compaq may be a good buy right now.  40 by year-end would be-A > 	very reasonable.  Shoot, did you know to buy AMD 4 months backa: > 	when trading in the mid twenties?  At or near 90 today.  K Not a fair comparison. AMD's been technically brilliant for many years, buthI has suffered from an inability to get the goodies shipping in sufficient  7 volume quickly enough to command market-leader prices.    N Then a few months ago, AMD's latest goodies exceeded expectations at preciselyH the same time as Intel noticeably stumbled. Now its AMD calling at leastN some of the tunes. (Moral: in a two-horse race horse #2 can't help but gain if horse #1 stumbles).f  G Compaq bought some well-hidden jewels with Digital, but I don't see it  F un-hiding them. And it's in a many-horse race, not a two-horse one, soJ there's no instant advantage if just one competitor stumbles. Compaq can'tA win by default, and as of now I don't see it gaining on the pack.    	Yours, 
 		Nigel Arnoti- 		NRA@MAXWELL.PH.KCL.AC.UK                      7 		"In the beginning there was nothing, which exploded."o   ------------------------------  " Date: Wed, 3 May 2000 14:12:19 GMT, From: koehler@eisner.decus.org (Bob Koehler) Subject: Re: OpenVMS marketing+ Message-ID: <u4+Th7ufpotp@eisner.decus.org>   b In article <390F4D85.92B65A88@vl.videotron.ca>, JF Mezei <jfmezei.spamnot@vl.videotron.ca> writes:  N > It won't be OpenVMS, it will be AppleVMS and will be marketed ferociously byO > an evangelist and revitalised big time. Apple can then use the Alpha chip for N > its MACs and blow Wintel out with vastly superior performance. Heck, I'll be/ > able to dual-boot MAC-OS or VMS on a Alpha ! r >   H I don't keep up with the day to day who's-faster-how-did-they-measure-itC stuff, but Apple is already doing quite well in performance with G4t compared to Pentium.  F ----------------------------------------------------------------------? Bob Koehler                     | Computer Sciences Corporationf= Hubble Space Telescope Payload  | Federal Sector, Civil GroupnE  Flight Software Team           | please remove ".aspm" when replyingc   ------------------------------  % Date: Wed, 03 May 2000 15:10:10 +0200:= From: Arne =?iso-8859-1?Q?Vajh=F8j?= <arne.vajhoej@gtech.com>m Subject: Re: OpenVMS marketing) Message-ID: <39102532.A327E5CE@gtech.com>l  ( Andrew Harrison SUNUK Consultancy wrote:: > Many of the .COM  startups that are now household names,5 > some of which have larger market caps than CPQ weree9 > started by people in their living rooms as a spare timei5 > occupation. Making people like this worry about ther7 > commercial/hobbyist issues will only make them choose.+ > something that makes no such distinction.o  6 I think the keyword is "started" (past sense). The new2 big e-businesses that will enter the market in the2 next years will typical be existing big businesses9 being e-bizzed. And many of the existing big e-businessest will be out of business.   Arne   ------------------------------  # Date: Wed, 03 May 2000 13:03:30 GMT " From: Art Rice <arice@ue.itug.org> Subject: Re: OpenVMS marketing8 Message-ID: <fn80hsklvm1s3ijat8c1om0d1be5v7jrlu@4ax.com>  B On 2 May 2000 12:16:57 -0700, dunnett@mala.bc.ca (Malcolm Dunnett) wrote:  1 >In article <390F2243.FF98D881@vl.videotron.ca>, e6 >   JF Mezei <jfmezei.spamnot@vl.videotron.ca> writes: >> uP >> In other words: We'll give you VMS nearly free if you promise not to call us,N >> but we'll be very glad to sell you support services when you need them, and( >> offer a wide range of service levels. >> l >AM >   The problem is that VMS is too reliable and too well documented to reallyiH >need much support - so if the support costs were very large at all manyF >customers just wouldn't bother. This is especially true when you have( >resources like comp.os.vms to help you. >uI >   Of course they could back to the bad old days, when you couldn't get  F >access to patches without a service agreement. This would force a lotH >of people who otherwise have no use for a support agreement to buy one.  F Doesn't that make it a bit tough for the Hobbyist <sp> to get patches?  H >( I know, I shouldn't even joke about such things, I'm sure some genius> >within Compaq is already considering this course of action ).   -- *
 Art Rice   *#*# Special Data Processing Corporation & --------------------------------------' All opinions expressed are mine and do e% not reflect the views of my employer.    ------------------------------  % Date: Wed, 03 May 2000 16:31:00 +0100,B From: Andrew Harrison SUNUK Consultancy <andrew.nospam@uk.sun.com> Subject: Re: OpenVMS marketing* Message-ID: <39104634.20E95441@uk.sun.com>   Arne Vajhj wrote:  * > Andrew Harrison SUNUK Consultancy wrote:< > > Many of the .COM  startups that are now household names,7 > > some of which have larger market caps than CPQ werer; > > started by people in their living rooms as a spare timeh7 > > occupation. Making people like this worry about thes9 > > commercial/hobbyist issues will only make them chooses- > > something that makes no such distinction.n >o8 > I think the keyword is "started" (past sense). The new4 > big e-businesses that will enter the market in the4 > next years will typical be existing big businesses; > being e-bizzed. And many of the existing big e-businessesy > will be out of business. >h  $ I am not sure its as simple as that.  3 Many of the new e-businesses have used their market*9 capitalisation to buy "hard businesses" which they are ina+ turn e-bizzing, the best example being AOL.l  8 And you are right many of the existing e-businesses will7 not survive, what you should not assume however is thatD7 this will stop new businesses entering the market. Some27 will be existing corporates re-marketing and channelinga5 themselves via the Internet/e-media, but many will bem5 new companies creating a new market for new products..  2 These are the sort of new corporations that Compaq4 needs to capture with OpenVMS, allong of course with1 existing corporations that want to re-focus theirg business via the Internet.  . You also seem to missjudge the nature of a lot3 of the e-businesses being created by large existinge3 corporations. A lot of these new business divisionsi7 are very much like startups in their own right, many of - them foster a skunk works type mentality veryo0 much at odds with the corporation who ownes them1 because this is the nature of the new environmenti they operate in.     >  > Arne   -- Andrew Harrisono Enterprise IT Architectd   ------------------------------   Date: 3 May 2000 10:08:16 GMTm* From: helbig@astro.rug.nl (Phillip Helbig) Subject: patches mailing list.. Message-ID: <8eotqg$rui$1@info.service.rug.nl>  I The patches mailing list seems to be defunct.  I tried resubscribing but tG didn't even get the automated reply.  What's the story?  It was really l convenient.t  H As an alternative, one can browse the server and look at the dates, but H I see that in one case the date is newer than the patch which I already F downloaded, so even that is not a guide.  One has to look one by one, G and the names are so long that they don't conveniently display in LYNX.D   ------------------------------  $ Date: Wed, 3 May 2000 12:19:07 +0200> From: "Jean-Franois Marchal" <jean-francois.marchal@x9000.fr>! Subject: Re: patches mailing listo+ Message-ID: <8eoud0$109$1@minus.oleane.net>h  @ none of the patch mailing list is still active (same with tru64)   Jean-Franois Marchalb X9000 - LYON    7 "Phillip Helbig" <helbig@astro.rug.nl> wrote in messagea( news:8eotqg$rui$1@info.service.rug.nl...J > The patches mailing list seems to be defunct.  I tried resubscribing butH > didn't even get the automated reply.  What's the story?  It was really
 > convenient.p >aI > As an alternative, one can browse the server and look at the dates, but I > I see that in one case the date is newer than the patch which I already G > downloaded, so even that is not a guide.  One has to look one by one,fI > and the names are so long that they don't conveniently display in LYNX.e >s   ------------------------------  $ Date: Wed, 3 May 2000 11:20:31 -0400  From: norm.raphael@jamesbury.com! Subject: Re: patches mailing lista4 Message-ID: <C22568D4.0053799A.00@jklh21.valmet.com>  H I asked a contact about this about a month ago and on 5/2/00 I got this:  M "What I do know is that the internet gateway team is looking at this and thatf2 you are not the only one who is having a problem."  + So it's not "defunct," just hors de combat.E  H Your guess is as good as anyone's as to when it will return to the fray.          - helbig@astro.rug.nl on 05/03/2000 06:08:16 AM   % Please respond to helbig@astro.rug.nl    To:   Info-VAX@mvb.saic.comg cc:> Subject:  patches mailing list        H The patches mailing list seems to be defunct.  I tried resubscribing butF didn't even get the automated reply.  What's the story?  It was really convenient.e  G As an alternative, one can browse the server and look at the dates, buttG I see that in one case the date is newer than the patch which I already-E downloaded, so even that is not a guide.  One has to look one by one,iG and the names are so long that they don't conveniently display in LYNX.a   ------------------------------   Date: 3 May 2000 19:13:55 +0200E* From: eplan@kapsch.net (Peter LANGSTOEGER)! Subject: Re: patches mailing list ( Message-ID: <39105e53@news.kapsch.co.at>  W In article <C22568D4.0053799A.00@jklh21.valmet.com>, norm.raphael@jamesbury.com writes:p >[patch mailing list] I >I asked a contact about this about a month ago and on 5/2/00 I got this:  > N >"What I do know is that the internet gateway team is looking at this and that3 >you are not the only one who is having a problem."   ; Yes, you're not alone. This service is down for months now.o" Or is this only my impression :-((   -- v< Peter "EPLAN" LANGSTOEGER           Tel.    +43 1 81111-2651; Network and OpenVMS system manager  Fax.    +43 1 81111-888 < FBFV/Information Services           E-mail  eplan@kapsch.netF <<< KAPSCH AG  Wagenseilgasse 1     PSImail PSI%(0232)281001141::EPLANH A-1121 VIENNA  AUSTRIA              "I'm not a pessimist, I'm a realist"N "VMS is today what Microsoft wants Windows NT V8.0 to be!" Compaq, 22-Sep-1998   ------------------------------  % Date: Wed, 03 May 2000 02:15:38 -0700R1 From: Vance Haemmerle <vance@toyvax.Tucson.AZ.US>35 Subject: Re: Product News at a Glance, April 26, 2000m3 Message-ID: <390F8BCA.5DA79261@toyvax.Tucson.AZ.US>    Terry C. Shannon wrote:c  G > But it's not surprising, nor should it be taken as a slap at OpenVMS.gK > Product News at a Glance is a summary of new product announcements. There?M > apparently were no new OpenVMS OS, tool, or layered product releases during M > the April 26 newsletter cycle. There **was** some NSK coverage, since the Qs2 > announced a new Himalaya system (S74000 series).    N  What I found suprising and upsetting was that VMS also was not mentioned onceQ in the glossy "marketing" part of Compaq's annual report.  In the drab financialsmI section it was mentioned I think three times in conjuntion with the otherDH Enterprise OSs.  It made me think seriously about dumping my CPQ shares.   --L Vance Haemmerle                         Internet   vance@toyvax.Tucson.AZ.US2 Tucson, AZ                                        L http://condor.lpl.arizona.edu/~vance/   NSI-SPAN/HEPNET 47540::TOYVAX::VANCE   ------------------------------  " Date: Wed, 3 May 2000 14:37:38 GMT0 From: "Terry C. Shannon" <shannon@world.std.com>5 Subject: Re: Product News at a Glance, April 26, 2000y& Message-ID: <Ftzn5x.Gs6@world.std.com>  > "Vance Haemmerle" <vance@toyvax.Tucson.AZ.US> wrote in message- news:390F8BCA.5DA79261@toyvax.Tucson.AZ.US...r > Terry C. Shannon wrote:  >eI > > But it's not surprising, nor should it be taken as a slap at OpenVMS. G > > Product News at a Glance is a summary of new product announcements.r TheretH > > apparently were no new OpenVMS OS, tool, or layered product releases duringI > > the April 26 newsletter cycle. There **was** some NSK coverage, sincea the Qh4 > > announced a new Himalaya system (S74000 series). >b >uK >  What I found suprising and upsetting was that VMS also was not mentioned  onceH > in the glossy "marketing" part of Compaq's annual report.  In the drab
 financialsK > section it was mentioned I think three times in conjuntion with the other J > Enterprise OSs.  It made me think seriously about dumping my CPQ shares. >s  K To each his (or her) own. The presence or absence of a reference to OpenVMS A in the annual report is not a criterion I would use when making aeI buy/hold/sell decision. I'd rather see OpenVMS assert a higher profile in 8 sales and marketing literature and in sales engagements.  K Still, it is interesting that the OS got no mention in the non-drab portioncL of the annual report. Makes me think the annual report was crafted under the aegis of Compaq Classic folks.   ------------------------------  % Date: Wed, 03 May 2000 14:04:42 +0100eB From: Andrew Harrison SUNUK Consultancy <andrew.nospam@uk.sun.com>- Subject: Re: Sun is no longer the dot in .coms* Message-ID: <391023EA.FD166C1B@uk.sun.com>   Robert Young wrote:g  q > In article <390EB5E9.8B6C175F@uk.sun.com>, Andrew Harrison SUNUK Consultancy <andrew.nospam@uk.sun.com> writes:l >nE > > The Washington Post Article was based on a press release from IBM L > > who seem to be descending into the  never mind the quality just feel the > > width school of marketing. > >C@ > > Had you ever wondered how IBM sold so many S80's (apparentlyD > > competing with E10K's) so quickly, what was it 1000 in 6 months,D > > simple if you only put 6 CPU's in them and discount them you can2 > > canibalise a lot of mid range server business. > >  >aQ >         Very good point... wondered about IBM server numbers myself.  RegardingnE >         IBM marketing... seems they have targetted your company andtC >         rightly so.... gunning for number one.  Nice catch on thee >         IBM FUD there. >@  7 Its an interesting tactic, IBM have been targetting Sunu. and using a very basic sell Price/Performance.  5 It does not seem to be working very well in that theyi3 don't seem to have slowed Sun's E10K revenue growth 3 at all and at the same time they havn't grown theirt" own market share (its going down).  5 In part this is because the current RS6000 range onlyn= has one competitive product, the S80, the rest of the systems / are elderly, slow and expensive hence the large 7 number of entry level discounted S80's IBM are selling.   3 One could also question the wisdom of targeting thef4 vendor best equipped to defend itself when there are, other much more vunerable targets to attack.  2 IBM's strategy in this case probably has much more3 to do with the fact that they have been losing S390 / business in a big way to Sun's and they need tod3 respond. It probably has less to do with a rationalt choice of target.l     Regards  Andrew Harrison  Enterprise IT Architecth   ------------------------------  % Date: Wed, 03 May 2000 16:11:13 +0100m- From: Tim Llewellyn <tim.llewellyn@bbc.co.uk> " Subject: Re: Tivoli Agent for VMS?) Message-ID: <39104191.9E6D7864@bbc.co.uk>-   "Main, Kerry" wrote:  M >  Also, if anyone is considering improving their proactive mgmt capabilitiesrJ > of OpenVMS systems, I suggest they also include the Availability Manager4 > product from Compaq (its free, so price is right).  G Do I get a free upgrade to a recommended platform (500 MHz Alpha) and a-O free Compaq engineer to install all the prerequisite patches for Java I wonder?a   Well, actually I don't.c   >: >p > Reference:E > http://WWW.OPENVMS.DIGITAL.COM/openvms/products/availman/index.html  >    --6 Tim Llewellyn, OpenVMS Infrastructure, Remarcs Project0 MedAS at the BBC, Whiteladies Road, Bristol, UK.A Email tim.llewellyn@bbc.co.uk. Home tim.llewellyn@cableinet.co.uk   A I speak for myself only and my views in no way represent those ofe MedAS or the BBC.l   ------------------------------  % Date: Wed, 03 May 2000 09:59:16 -0400 1 From: "Mark D. Jilson" <jilly@clarityconnect.com>e% Subject: Re: UCX ftp crash on VMS 7.2 2 Message-ID: <391030B4.8B82AEC9@clarityconnect.com>  G Please contact your local CSC, if you have a software services contact,0= as there is a TCPIP$BGDRIVER.EXE available to fix this issue.w   Stan wrote:o > 4 > In article <390DC087.D7111E71@clarityconnect.com>,2 > Mark D. Jilson <jilly@clarityconnect.com> wrote:K > >You didn't post any data from which one could look up the crash.  Pleasee > >post the CLUE CRASH data. > 
 > Here it is:i >   > Crashdump Summary Information:  > ------------------------------, > Crash Time:        28-APR-2000 20:59:20.30; > Bugcheck Type:     INCONSTATE, Inconsistent I/O data baset& > Node:              OJAI    (Cluster)) > CPU Type:          AlphaStation 255/300' > VMS Version:       V7.21 > Current Process:   TCPIP$FTPL > Current Image:     OJAI$DKA0:[SYS0.SYSCOMMON.][SYSEXE]TCPIP$FTP_SERVER.EXE> > Failing PC:        FFFFFFFF.864D9258    TCPIP$BGDRIVER+25258& > Failing PS:        1C000000.00000803P > Module:            TCPIP$BGDRIVER    (Link Date/Time:  8-DEC-1998 17:23:01.37) > Offset:            00025258r   -- 	D Jilly	- Working from Home in the Chemung River Valley - Lockwood, NY0 	- jilly@clarityconnect.com			- Brett Bodine fan. 	- Mark.Jilson@Compaq.com			- since 1975 or so, 	- http://www.jilly.baka.com               -   ------------------------------   Date: 3 May 2000 19:05:37 +0200i* From: eplan@kapsch.net (Peter LANGSTOEGER)% Subject: Re: UCX ftp crash on VMS 7.2e* Message-ID: <39105c61$1@news.kapsch.co.at>  f In article <391030B4.8B82AEC9@clarityconnect.com>, "Mark D. Jilson" <jilly@clarityconnect.com> writes:H >Please contact your local CSC, if you have a software services contact,> >as there is a TCPIP$BGDRIVER.EXE available to fix this issue.  3 It's really time now for a TCPIP V5.0B (or a V5.1). 5 A dot zero version and then nothing for a long time ?e  9 Yes, there are a lot of patches for TCPIP V5.0 and V5.0A.fG But they are not ECOs, you don't know them, you have no infos, how they-" correlate to each other and so on.  H Should we expect UCX/TCPIP to stay/keep the worst quality product of DEQ for OpenVMS ? I hope not...e   -- e< Peter "EPLAN" LANGSTOEGER           Tel.    +43 1 81111-2651; Network and OpenVMS system manager  Fax.    +43 1 81111-888-< FBFV/Information Services           E-mail  eplan@kapsch.netF <<< KAPSCH AG  Wagenseilgasse 1     PSImail PSI%(0232)281001141::EPLANH A-1121 VIENNA  AUSTRIA              "I'm not a pessimist, I'm a realist"N "VMS is today what Microsoft wants Windows NT V8.0 to be!" Compaq, 22-Sep-1998   ------------------------------  # Date: Wed, 03 May 2000 07:55:25 GMTl$ From: Russell <rsegalov@my-deja.com>  Subject: Re: VMS 7.1-2 v 7.1-1H2) Message-ID: <8eom18$8qe$1@nnrp1.deja.com>y  6 In article <8en5qm$df4$1@mailint03.im.hou.compaq.com>,&   hoffman@xdelta.zko.dec.nospam wrote: >e3 > In article <8en342$fk8$1@nnrp1.deja.com>, Russelle$ <russell@manint.demon.co.uk> writes:F > :I am finding it difficult to get any documented differences between > :OpenVMS 7.1-2 and 7.1-1H2.s >sE >   Please start by looking at the OpenVMS Alpha V7.1-2 Release Notes-F >   and Installation Procedures manual -- that has some of the details >   you seek...: >eH >   In addition to the various new features and updates and new hardwareF >   support incorporated into the V7.1-2 release, the release includes a:F >   new ECO kit installation process (PCSI), the contents of the V7.1,F >   V7.1-1H1 and V7.1-1H2 kits, a new third-party bootstrap mechanism,D >   and a roll-up of a large number of ECO kits for the V7.1 through" >   V7.1-1H2 (inclusive) releases. >sD >   V7.1-2 is a "landing zone" release for those folks wishing PriorD >   Version Support contracts (please see the FAQ for "prior versionB >   support" information and pointers), and V7.1-2 is the "landing zone"r@ >   for all OpenVMS Alpha V7.1-* releases starting in July 2000. >rH >  --------------------------- pure personal opinion ------------------- --------1 >    Hoff (Stephen) Hoffman   OpenVMS Engineeringt hoffman#xdelta.zko.dec.com >a >r Thanks for the info....d -- Regards    Russellw    & Sent via Deja.com http://www.deja.com/ Before you buy.    ------------------------------  # Date: Wed, 03 May 2000 17:19:48 GMT & From: mkwan@idirect.com (Michael Kwan)? Subject: Re: VMS Fibre channel connectivity with 3rd party disks5 Message-ID: <UcZP4.11171$Kv2.32454@quark.idirect.com>*  & Uwe Zessin (zessin@my-deja.com) wrote:) : In article <2000Apr26.150156.1@eisner>,p1 :   kaplow_r@eisner.decus.org (Bob Kaplow) wrote: 3 : > In article <Pine.BSI.4.00.10004251940080.14953--G : 100000@hometown.idirect.com>, "Michael Kwan, GCN" <mkwan@idirect.com> 	 : writes: J : > > I am not sure if this has been asked before. I am working to connect2 : > > some non-Compaq (non-DEC) disk array to VMS. : > >wI : > > I have the KGPSA-BY Fibre channel HBA on my AS8400, and connect the  : > > disk array via a switch .   E : Hm. -BY is the part number of just the board. The full order numbere: : (incl. manual) for the 32-bit adapter is called KGPSA-BC/ : (or 380574-001 in the idiotic Compaq system).b  J Indeed, the FC HBA card is  indeed KGPSA-BC (380574-001), I have installedI the Fibre channel tima kit form the COmpaq ftp site, v0200 (actually this " is the latest version of tima kit)  G : > > The strange thing is, I can see these drives at the ALpha consolen@ : > > (v5.6) mode using SHOW DEVICE, ( $1$DRA250m $1$DRA300 etc)   : More strange things:- : 1) FC-connected disks are named "$1$DGAu:".hE : 2) You don't see FC-connected disks on the console level unless you C :    explicitly configure them via 'wwidmgr' for boot/dump support.g   It was a typo, it is $1$DGAnnn: H and I did used 'wwidmgr' to set the FC device as boot device, and can atE the Alpha console SHOW DEVICE beable to see the device Ihave setup in2	 'wwidmgr'x    I : > > but after I booted up VMS (v7.2-1 with latest FC tima kit v0200), Ie' : > > can't see any of these FC drives.a  & : OpenVMS requires that on the HSG-80:' : 1) the command console lun is enabled " : 2) SCSI-VERSION is set to SCSI-3' : 3) each LUN is assigned an identifiera  F You see this is the problem (I think), since I  don't have a HSG80, myJ array has the controllor built in, so I can't so the things you suggested. Any ways to get around that ??    H : > > I looked through quite a bit of Compaq/DEC documentation, there isE : > > no mention of the need to do any configuration on the VMS side,hH : > > however, the DEC docs always refer to the HSG80, which in my case,< : > > I don't have, since I am attaching to a non-DEC array. : > >wF : > > Am I missing something? Any insight would be deeply appreciated. : >eF : > Both at his DECUS presentation, and at a recent local FibrechannelD : > presentation late last year, Richie Lary made it VERY CLEAR thatI : > interoperability just does not exist in todays Fibrechannel products,iC : > especially in switches. Are you at least using a Compaq switch?I  G : Is that really a Fabric-switch? Gadzoox, f.ex. produces a 'switch' torD : connect arbitrated-loop ports together (so-called switched loops).4 : They just some days ago announced fabric services.  J : In recent Alpha console revisions you can switch the KGPSA between FC_AL : and fabric at console level.  J I have used the Brocade SilkWorm 2800 switch, and I think the same as whatH COmpaq is recommeding to customers (Compaq FC switch is OEM form BrocadeB SW2800), however, I am not if Compaq has different firmware in its) switches that  is different with Brocade!    : > 	Bob Kaplowe   : -- : Uwe Zessin    ( : Sent via Deja.com http://www.deja.com/ : Before you buy.gA  ----------------------------------------------------------------gA  : Stop on by the Internet TeleCafe! telnet://telecafe.com:9000 :sA  ----------------------------------------------------------------s   ------------------------------    Date: 03 May 2000 11:29:05 +0200- From: Juergen Nickelsen <nickelsen@condat.de> @ Subject: Re: VMS/UCX responds to UDP broadcast with ICMP message, Message-ID: <87aei8hti6.fsf@chuck.condat.de>  / Tim Llewellyn <tim.llewellyn@bbc.co.uk> writes:e  N >  Thats is a prehistoric version of UCX (not quite as bad as 1.3A but close). > Why not upgrade?  B I wrote the reasons for not upgrading (in short: the machine is no? longer worth the money and effort) in private e-mail to Michael9A Austin, who posted my message without my permission to the group.n   -- a' Juergen Nickelsen <nickelsen@condat.de>o0 Condat AG, Alt-Moabit 91d, 10559 Berlin, Germany+ Tel. +49 30 39094-178  Fax +49 30 39094-300i   ------------------------------  % Date: Wed, 03 May 2000 12:08:04 +0100r# From: nic <no-spam@no.spam.allowed>h Subject: Re: VXT2000 question / Message-ID: <391016A4.3EE31987@no.spam.allowed>:   Lydia Yudina wrote:d > 
 > Hi Experts,gJ > I have an antic VXT2000 X-terminal which i'm trying to resurrect (so far > unsuccessfully).   Antic? I guess Antique !  G I have been playing with a VXT 2000 as well. I managed to get the thingtG up to 18MB of memory, I replaced the 2MB sims (3 of them) with PC stylebD 4 MB sims (32 bit 72 pin 80 ns) and hey presto, enough memory to run	 Netscape!n  G I had to use the T/UTIL 1 to clear old the old contents before it woulddH boot as well. Be aware there are several VXT images, one trick you mightF like to try, is find the largest VXT*.SYS file, and put it where it isF trying to load from, until you've completed any definitions in the NCPE database. I think it also needs at very least 10 MB of memory to bootc up.a  * Hope this helps someone in some small way.   -- c Nic Clews CSC Computer Sciencesr1 email : n c l e w s   a t   c s c   d o t   c o ma   ------------------------------   End of INFO-VAX 2000.247 ************************