1 INFO-VAX	Thu, 04 May 2000	Volume 2000 : Issue 248       Contents: Re: And they wonder why !! Re: And they wonder why !! Re: And they wonder why !!, Re: Any ALPHAbook (Tadpole) users out there?, Re: Any ALPHAbook (Tadpole) users out there?, Re: Any ALPHAbook (Tadpole) users out there?, Re: Any ALPHAbook (Tadpole) users out there? Re: Apache 1.3.4 for VMS?  boot tape can i make one?  Re: boot tape can i make one?  Re: boot tape can i make one? + ftp.decus.org is back up!  And running VMS! / Re: ftp.decus.org is back up!  And running VMS! 6 Re: getting stack dumps/traces; $ASCIC counted strings how to unscribe  Re: how to unscribe  Re: how to unscribe C Re: HP Laserjet Escape Sequences for VMS printing documented where? C Re: HP Laserjet Escape Sequences for VMS printing documented where?  LBR$OUTPUT_HELP Question  Re: Moving data from VMS to UNIX  Re: Moving data from VMS to UNIX OpenVMS disk space?  Re: OpenVMS disk space?  Re: OpenVMS disk space?  Re: OpenVMS disk space?  Re: OpenVMS disk space?  Re: OpenVMS disk space?  Re: OpenVMS marketing  Re: Perl links outdated  Re: Perl links outdated  Re: Perl links outdated  Re: Perl links outdated  Re: Perl links outdated % Printing in Landscape - (Please help) ) Re: Printing in Landscape - (Please help)  Problem with UCX$BIND  Re: Problem with UCX$BIND 5 problems  on VMS 7.2 was RE: UCX ftp crash on VMS 7.2 9 Re: problems  on VMS 7.2 was RE: UCX ftp crash on VMS 7.2 9 Re: problems  on VMS 7.2 was RE: UCX ftp crash on VMS 7.2 % question about Alphastation 200 4/100 
 Re: SA-100 Time to sell/trade& Re: VMS Perl system() truncating lines  F ----------------------------------------------------------------------  $ Date: Wed, 3 May 2000 16:38:54 -0400 From: jlahman@LTVSteel.com# Subject: Re: And they wonder why !! 8 Message-ID: <852568D4.007174A0.00@notesnta.LTVSteel.com>  ? Tim Shoppa <shoppa@trailing-edge.com> on 05/03/2000 08:44:23 AM    To:   Info-VAX@Mvb.Saic.Com ! cc:    (bcc: Jim Lahman/CLWK/LTV) $ Subject:  Re: And they wonder why !!        F > Geeze, then all the University folks who are paying $ for their CSLGC > (instead of getting it for free) must feel really stupid.  How do C > I switch the academic customers that I support over to the "free" 
 > version?  P My Compaq rep told me that this is part of the GEN (sp?) package.  However, I doA not know what the GEM pakage is.  Does anybody know what this is?    ------------------------------  # Date: Wed, 03 May 2000 21:38:02 GMT % From: jlsue <jlsuexxxz@dialupnet.com> # Subject: Re: And they wonder why !! 8 Message-ID: <ev61hs484b2g2gou20js2mqhaoht453sau@4ax.com>  3 On Tue, 2 May 2000 16:41:43 GMT, "Terry C. Shannon"  <shannon@world.std.com> wrote:   > E >While Compaq did a terrible job communicating the decision to cancel J >AlphaNT, the underlying business case is both sound and supportable (evenL >though it leaves me with an essentially useless Personal Workstation 433a). >  >  >   E I converted a 500a to an au by putting in the requisite SCSI adapter, = video adapters, and changing the IDE CDROM to a SCSI one (the > el-cheapo Toshiba CDROM - just like the ones in most PCs - was/ somewhat below the rev needed for VMS support).   * Now I can use it for Tru64, Linux, and VMS  1 Not speaking for anyone, certainly not DEC/Compaq - (get rid of the xxxx in my address to e-mail)    ------------------------------  " Date: Wed, 3 May 2000 22:43:51 GMT0 From: "Terry C. Shannon" <shannon@world.std.com># Subject: Re: And they wonder why !! & Message-ID: <Fu09A3.5z7@world.std.com>  : "Graham Allan" <allan@mnhep1.hep.umn.edu> wrote in message* news:w53r9bjpmck.fsf@lanark.spa.umn.edu.../ > Tim Shoppa <shoppa@trailing-edge.com> writes:  >  > > jlahman@LTVSteel.com wrote:  > > > L > > > mathog@seqaxp.bio.caltech.edu (David Mathog) on 05/02/2000 05:38:18 PMA > > > > >Separately, CPQ soon will offer free OpenVMS licenses to  universities and( > > > > >other educational institutions. > > > + > > > >Interesting.  What does "soon" mean?  > > > L > > > I understand that this programis currently in place.  However, its now widely > > > publicized.  > > H > > Geeze, then all the University folks who are paying $ for their CSLGE > > (instead of getting it for free) must feel really stupid.  How do E > > I switch the academic customers that I support over to the "free"  > > version? > L > Hmm, that wasn't my interpretation of "free OpenVMS licenses". I was aboutK > to buy a base VMS OS license for a Personal Workstation, but read Terry's J > message as implying I may not need to. But I assumed it would still needG > CSLG for the unlimited user licenses, layered products, etc. Now your 8 > point makes me wonder what the actual program will be!  > I honestly don't know, and I certainly do not work for Compaq.9 richard.marcello@compaq.com might know what's going on...    ------------------------------   Date: 3 May 2000 19:42:48 GMT * From: helbig@astro.rug.nl (Phillip Helbig)5 Subject: Re: Any ALPHAbook (Tadpole) users out there? . Message-ID: <8epvfo$81g$3@info.service.rug.nl>  . In article <rcBGTl3LQ$uB@tachxxsoftxxconsult>,@ wayne@tachysoft.xxx.331639.killspam.013e (Wayne Sewell) writes:   J > Admittedly, the alphabook has its limitations.  However, I would take itG > over a top of the line billybox laptop.  I took the latter with me to J > dallas last week.  I was able to work, sort of.  I had copied all of theG > source files I would be working with onto the laptop, but the pain of A > dealing with the dipshit editors available on billyboxes cut my H > productivity to almost nothing.  With a real laptop, i.e. one that ranI > vms, I could have edited with tpu and could have even compiled, linked,  > and done limited testing.   D I will buy a VMS laptop as soon as I have the money.  The lower the H price, the sooner I will buy it.  An LKxxx keyboard would be a definite G plus.  At the very least, one should be able to connect one externally  / even if the laptop itself has another keyboard.   8 How does a DS-10L compare in size to the typical laptop?  D Time to dream again.  I realise that LAVC protocoll is not routable,H probably not tunnelable etc and having a laptop as a cluster member withE the cluster on the other side of the world, connected somehow through F the internet, is probably not practical (though I keep hearing rumoursG about a guy in a plane in Sweden booting a VMS box in the plane as part D of a cluster on the ground).  However, in principle this is what one@ wants.  One does not want to have EVERYTHING on the laptop---tooG vulnerable etc and for some folks the laptop would be too small.  Also, F it might be difficult to have a PERMANENT IP connection with a laptop.G One does not want to be constantly moving a copy of everything back and E forth.  One does not want to be moving some things back and forth and F worrying about what one needs and keeping things consistent.  What one9 wants is essentially what a cluster satellite is: memory, B terminal/screen and CPU are local, but the OS and user data is on C another system.  One uses the local resources for local stuff, but  I behind the scenes the stuff that permanently matters---the stuff written  G to the user disk---is transparently safe and sound on a disk server in  I the cluster.  It would be nice if there were some setup which to the end  I user would look like this on a laptop: I log in on a laptop connected to  H my cluster far away over IP, and I work as if I am working locally, but E actually files are transferred to a local SCRATCH disk (i.e. I don't  D care what or where they are) and I work on them locally; images are E loaded into local memory, and behind the scenes the main file in the  F main cluster is updated.  I have everything everywhere I am, but only & the main cluster has to be maintained.  E This would be really neat, folks.  It doesn't have to be real cluster @ protocoll, of course, just something which looks like it at thisD superficial level.  It would probably be enough to update the masterE disk once every few minutes or so.  And just a satellite, not a boot   server.    ------------------------------   Date: 3 May 2000 19:44:32 GMT * From: helbig@astro.rug.nl (Phillip Helbig)5 Subject: Re: Any ALPHAbook (Tadpole) users out there? . Message-ID: <8epvj0$81g$4@info.service.rug.nl>  . In article <Aah6Fd4574zc@tachxxsoftxxconsult>,@ wayne@tachysoft.xxx.331639.killspam.013e (Wayne Sewell) writes:   i > In article <K$fhnEV2FwGm@eisner.decus.org>, Kilgallen@eisner.decus.org.nospam (Larry Kilgallen) writes: r > > In article <NqdBRbDZGgG1@tachxxsoftxxconsult>, wayne@tachysoft.xxx.331639.killspam.013e (Wayne Sewell) writes: > > O > >> I have no doubt that if affordable alpha laptops existed, a lot of people, Q > >> maybe the entire readership of c.o.v, would get one.  I have been wanting an R > >> alphabook for years.  Based on comments seen here from time to time, a lot of > >> other people have too.  > >  > > But not everyone.  > > G > > It would be an interesting toy, but I could not justify (to myself) G > > something I would not use.  If laptops were that important, I would E > > carry around the Macintosh laptop I own, rather than reserving it 6 > > for development of laptop-relevant Macintosh code. > > F > > I live my life with a lot of computing every day, but no desire toD > > carry it with me.  People who do more long distance travel might > > feel differently.  > N > It depends on what kind of travel you are talking about.  If you are talkingQ > about vacation (holiday for those over the pond), I concede your point.  If you P > are talking about a work trip, an alphabook would be extremely valuable if theM > work was vms-related, which all of mine is.  You can even connect it to the Q > customer's network (assuming they don't mind) and tranfer files directly in and  > out of the laptop. > Q > All I'm saying is that *if* I need a laptop (which I do), I would rather have a $ > vms laptop than a billybox laptop.  I Right.  More and more folks (including me) are doing work which could in  F principle be done anywhere, if the computing resources are there.  So E why not lie on the beach with your laptop---not as an alternative to  > lying on the beach with your girlfriend on holiday, but as an D alternative to sitting at your desk while it's nice weather outside.   ------------------------------  " Date: Wed, 3 May 2000 22:57:42 GMT0 From: "Terry C. Shannon" <shannon@world.std.com>5 Subject: Re: Any ALPHAbook (Tadpole) users out there? & Message-ID: <Fu09x5.8Mw@world.std.com>  7 "Phillip Helbig" <helbig@astro.rug.nl> wrote in message ( news:8epvj0$81g$4@info.service.rug.nl...0 > In article <Aah6Fd4574zc@tachxxsoftxxconsult>,A > wayne@tachysoft.xxx.331639.killspam.013e (Wayne Sewell) writes:  > / > > In article <K$fhnEV2FwGm@eisner.decus.org>, ; Kilgallen@eisner.decus.org.nospam (Larry Kilgallen) writes: 4 > > > In article <NqdBRbDZGgG1@tachxxsoftxxconsult>,? wayne@tachysoft.xxx.331639.killspam.013e (Wayne Sewell) writes:  > > > I > > >> I have no doubt that if affordable alpha laptops existed, a lot of  people, H > > >> maybe the entire readership of c.o.v, would get one.  I have been
 wanting anK > > >> alphabook for years.  Based on comments seen here from time to time,  a lot of > > >> other people have too.  > > >  > > > But not everyone.  > > > I > > > It would be an interesting toy, but I could not justify (to myself) I > > > something I would not use.  If laptops were that important, I would G > > > carry around the Macintosh laptop I own, rather than reserving it 8 > > > for development of laptop-relevant Macintosh code. > > > H > > > I live my life with a lot of computing every day, but no desire toF > > > carry it with me.  People who do more long distance travel might > > > feel differently.  > > H > > It depends on what kind of travel you are talking about.  If you are talking K > > about vacation (holiday for those over the pond), I concede your point.  If youK > > are talking about a work trip, an alphabook would be extremely valuable  if theK > > work was vms-related, which all of mine is.  You can even connect it to  the L > > customer's network (assuming they don't mind) and tranfer files directly in and > > out of the laptop. > > L > > All I'm saying is that *if* I need a laptop (which I do), I would rather have a& > > vms laptop than a billybox laptop. > J > Right.  More and more folks (including me) are doing work which could inG > principle be done anywhere, if the computing resources are there.  So F > why not lie on the beach with your laptop---not as an alternative to? > lying on the beach with your girlfriend on holiday, but as an F > alternative to sitting at your desk while it's nice weather outside.  K The nice thing about the AlphaBook I is that you could spend ~45 minutes on J the beach with the thing. After which point you could retire to your hotel= room with your girlfriend, er, colleague, for a lusty SYSGEN.    ------------------------------  $ Date: Wed, 3 May 2000 22:14:45 -04006 From: "Michael A. Foley" <mike.foley@technologist.com>5 Subject: Re: Any ALPHAbook (Tadpole) users out there? 4 Message-ID: <o25Q4.1446$Fr.38180@news4.giganews.com>  K     Let me preface this with: I work at API. These are just my own personal H     ramblings and have absolutely NO basis in fact or even fiction. Just.     something I was thinking of the other day.  J     Here's what I'd like to see for an Alpha laptop... Take a laptop builtL     with a Transmeta chip and instead of it emulating x86 instructions, have"     it emulate Alpha instructions.  D     You'd get low power and "commodity" prices. Swap out a disk with<     either VMS or NT, change a BIOS setting, and off you go.  C     I wonder how fast a Transmeta could emulate an EV6? It wouldn't 0     have to be fast for a laptop, just accurate.     mike      ; "Terry C. Shannon" <shannon@world.std.com> wrote in message   news:Ftyo81.CH4@world.std.com... > H > "Larry Kilgallen" <Kilgallen@eisner.decus.org.nospam> wrote in message' > news:K$fhnEV2FwGm@eisner.decus.org... 2 > > In article <NqdBRbDZGgG1@tachxxsoftxxconsult>,A > wayne@tachysoft.xxx.331639.killspam.013e (Wayne Sewell) writes:  > > H > > > I have no doubt that if affordable alpha laptops existed, a lot of	 > people, G > > > maybe the entire readership of c.o.v, would get one.  I have been  > wanting anL > > > alphabook for years.  Based on comments seen here from time to time, a > lot of > > > other people have too. > >  > > But not everyone.  > > G > > It would be an interesting toy, but I could not justify (to myself) G > > something I would not use.  If laptops were that important, I would E > > carry around the Macintosh laptop I own, rather than reserving it 6 > > for development of laptop-relevant Macintosh code. > > F > > I live my life with a lot of computing every day, but no desire toD > > carry it with me.  People who do more long distance travel might > > feel differently.  > G > Perhaps. But as I learned to my dismay when I had an AlphaBook loaner  about H > four years ago, the battery lasted only 40 minutes. Not quite what you need > for long distance travel...  >  >    ------------------------------  % Date: Wed, 03 May 2000 16:57:33 -0400 " From: Dan Sugalski <dan@sidhe.org>" Subject: Re: Apache 1.3.4 for VMS?8 Message-ID: <4.3.1.0.20000503165546.01da4500@24.8.96.48>  < At 10:05 AM 5/3/00 -0700, Shane.F.Smith@healthnet.com wrote:G >I have a colleague who believes that there used to be a version 1.3.4  J >Apache for VMS somewhere, and he wants a copy. The only one I know of is K >the 1.3.9 beta on Compaq's website. Can anyone confirm whether any of the  M >earlier betas were 1.3.4, and if so can anyone tell me where to look for it?   A Dunno, but you don't want it even if it was. The latest beta has  B problems--the old ones were definitely busted in a number of ways.  I >Less importantly, apparently the latest Intel version is 1.3.12. Anyone  M >know if there are plans to get in step with the Intel version in the future?   L I expect the Apache release for OpenVMS will be 1.3.12. I think the preview K version on the website is too, but I can't easily check at the moment. (IP   connectivity problems)   					Dan  I --------------------------------------"it's like this"-------------------02 Dan Sugalski                          even samurai? dan@sidhe.org                         have teddy bears and evene;                                       teddy bears get drunk    ------------------------------  # Date: Wed, 03 May 2000 19:40:32 GMT  From: joecarlos@yahoo.com (Joe) " Subject: boot tape can i make one?5 Message-ID: <8F299F8F5joeyahoocom@news.supernews.com>e  L I am about to setup ucx on a vax. I do not have a spare disk to do an image L backup before the upgrade. I doubt that anything will go wrong but is there K a way to boot from a tape. Can i make a backup of the system disk and boot   from it?   ------------------------------   Date: 3 May 2000 20:33:10 GMTd8 From: hammond@not@peek.ppb.cpqcorp.net (Charlie Hammond)& Subject: Re: boot tape can i make one?6 Message-ID: <8eq2e6$mqh$1@mailint03.im.hou.compaq.com>  W In article <8F299F8F5joeyahoocom@news.supernews.com>, joecarlos@yahoo.com (Joe) writes: M >I am about to setup ucx on a vax. I do not have a spare disk to do an image  M >backup before the upgrade. I doubt that anything will go wrong but is there  L >a way to boot from a tape. Can i make a backup of the system disk and boot 	 >from it?d  > Use SUS$UPDATE:STABACKIT.COM to make a StandAlone Backup Tape.K Boot StandAlone Backup; then mount a different tape and backup your system.sE Boot StandAlone Backup; then mount the system backup tape to restore.p   -- oK     Charlie Hammond -- Compaq Computer Corporation -- Pompano Beach  FL USAiF          (hammond@peek.ppb.cpqcorp.net -- remove "@not" when replying)J       All opinions expressed are my own and not necessarily my employer's.   ------------------------------  " Date: Wed, 3 May 2000 23:03:48 GMT, From: koehler@eisner.decus.org (Bob Koehler)& Subject: Re: boot tape can i make one?+ Message-ID: <PHuwhBRTMgAS@eisner.decus.org>h  W In article <8F299F8F5joeyahoocom@news.supernews.com>, joecarlos@yahoo.com (Joe) writes: N > I am about to setup ucx on a vax. I do not have a spare disk to do an image N > backup before the upgrade. I doubt that anything will go wrong but is there M > a way to boot from a tape. Can i make a backup of the system disk and boot a
 > from it?  H Yes and no.  Depending on the type of VAX and the type of tape drive youD may be able to boot from the tape drive.  You cannot boot VMS from aD tape drive.  You can build a bootable standalone backup on some tapeE drives, boot that, use it to make a backup (to the same tape drive iflC you need to, but change the tape), and use it to recover in case of 	 disaster.   D Now just what kind of VAX and tape drive do you have?  And just what- version of VMS are you going to do this with?d  F ----------------------------------------------------------------------? Bob Koehler                     | Computer Sciences Corporations= Hubble Space Telescope Payload  | Federal Sector, Civil GroupiE  Flight Software Team           | please remove ".aspm" when replying0   ------------------------------  % Date: Wed, 03 May 2000 15:24:19 -0400 + From: Tim Shoppa <shoppa@trailing-edge.com>l4 Subject: ftp.decus.org is back up!  And running VMS!1 Message-ID: <391044A3.70B26692@trailing-edge.com>r  < After several weeks of being down, I just tried this morning= and got into ftp.decus.org via anonymous FTP.  It's now a VMSiA machine running MadGoat FTP, and seems to have twenty-some of the 1 DECUS CD's on it.  To whoever fixed it, good job!o   Tim.   ------------------------------  " Date: Wed, 3 May 2000 19:51:58 GMT0 From: "Terry C. Shannon" <shannon@world.std.com>8 Subject: Re: ftp.decus.org is back up!  And running VMS!& Message-ID: <Fu01BL.GL6@world.std.com>  8 "Tim Shoppa" <shoppa@trailing-edge.com> wrote in message+ news:391044A3.70B26692@trailing-edge.com...a> > After several weeks of being down, I just tried this morning? > and got into ftp.decus.org via anonymous FTP.  It's now a VMSiC > machine running MadGoat FTP, and seems to have twenty-some of ther3 > DECUS CD's on it.  To whoever fixed it, good job!e  L And another vote of thanks to the hard-working unsung heroes of the DECUS US Chapter!   cheers,    terry se   ------------------------------  $ Date: Wed, 3 May 2000 20:54:51 +0100, From: "Adrian Lumsden" <A.Lumsden@xdt.co.uk>? Subject: Re: getting stack dumps/traces; $ASCIC counted stringse/ Message-ID: <8eq08e$g2j$1@newsg4.svr.pol.co.uk>a  K  Here are a couple of other solutions to generating counted ASCI strings in  C K (provided that you don't want to overwrite them later with something longern :-))  *     #define $ASCIC(name, string) struct {\          unsigned char len;\$          char body[sizeof(string)];\/          } name = {sizeof(string) - 1, string }   +      $ASCIC(dbgcmd, "exam /asciz @yytext");I   OR        /* K      **      Define the ASCIC counted string data structure and a macro for  creatingG      **      one. This is used for sending a command line to DEBUG witht$      **      LIB$SIGNAL (SS$_DEBUG).      */P$      typedef struct counted_string {$          unsigned char       length;'          char                body[256];s          } ASCIC;n  F  #define $ASCIC(name,string) ASCIC name = { sizeof(string)-1, string }     Adrian   --( Adrian Lumsden, XDT Computer Systems, UK" A dot Lumsden at xdt dot co dot ukD --------------------------------------------------------------------= Hoff Hoffman <hoffman@xdelta.zko.dec.nospam> wrote in messages0 news:8ep9aj$c3j$1@mailint03.im.hou.compaq.com... >n> > In article <39100C69.2772F1AC@best.ms.philips.com>, aalimari& <aalimari@best.ms.philips.com> writes:E > :How do I pick up the debugger's output in my program into a stringw
 > :buffer? >l [snip]   ------------------------------  $ Date: Wed, 3 May 2000 12:31:55 -0700< From: Noel Madlansacay <noel.madlansacay@radiology.ucsf.edu> Subject: how to unscribe4 Message-ID: <v04210110b5362ed1c8ac@[128.218.59.173]>  F I tried unsubscribing from this group and just use the newserver so I < don't get tons of email in my account.  But I have not been  successful.  Any suggestions?    Thanks   ------------------------------   Date: 3 May 2000 19:59:38 GMTb2 From: hoffman@xdelta.zko.dec.nospam (Hoff Hoffman) Subject: Re: how to unscribe6 Message-ID: <8eq0fa$m20$1@mailint03.im.hou.compaq.com>  s In article <v04210110b5362ed1c8ac@[128.218.59.173]>, Noel Madlansacay <noel.madlansacay@radiology.ucsf.edu> writes:SG :I tried unsubscribing from this group and just use the newserver so I n= :don't get tons of email in my account.  But I have not been T :successful.  Any suggestions?  L   Yes, please see the OpenVMS FAQ for details on unsubcribing from INFO-VAX.L   The FAQ is available via a link at the site http://www.openvms.compaq.com/  N  --------------------------- pure personal opinion ---------------------------L    Hoff (Stephen) Hoffman   OpenVMS Engineering   hoffman#xdelta.zko.dec.com   ------------------------------  $ Date: Wed, 3 May 2000 16:08:36 -0400% From: "Brian Tillman" <tillman_brian>e Subject: Re: how to unscribe$ Message-ID: <39108777$1@news.si.com>  = Noel Madlansacay <noel.madlansacay@radiology.ucsf.edu> wrote:e  F >I tried unsubscribing from this group and just use the newserver so I< >don't get tons of email in my account.  But I have not been >successful.  Any suggestions?  E To unsubscribe, you must mail from the address you originally used to K subscribe (easy to do with PC-based mail programs) and send the single word,3 UNSUBSCRIBE in the body of a message to the addressy info-vax-request@mvb.saic.coma --B  Brian Tillman                   Internet: tillman_brian at si.comB  Smiths Industries, Inc.                   tillman at swdev.si.com>  3290 Patterson Ave. SE, MS      Addresses modified to prevent=  Grand Rapids, MI 49512-1991     SPAM.  Replace "at" with "@"t9         This opinion doesn't represent that of my companyo   ------------------------------   Date: 3 May 2000 19:31:22 GMTg* From: helbig@astro.rug.nl (Phillip Helbig)L Subject: Re: HP Laserjet Escape Sequences for VMS printing documented where?. Message-ID: <8epuqa$81g$2@info.service.rug.nl>  7 In article <391054CE.F331506C@bbc.co.uk>, Tim Llewellyn " <tim.llewellyn@bbc.co.uk> writes:   ? > I've been having more fun with blank pages and HP Laserjets. e  D I remember using a 1200 DPI A0 colour printer under unix where they E forgot to make -h the default.  Now THAT'S what I call a header page!l   ------------------------------  $ Date: Thu, 4 May 2000 20:52:58 +0100/ From: "Gerald Marsh" <gerald@cyfer.demon.co.uk>yL Subject: Re: HP Laserjet Escape Sequences for VMS printing documented where?A Message-ID: <957383856.28057.0.nnrp-11.9e984c92@news.demon.co.uk>   I The VMS string is only relevant to pathworks (I think!) - I've got around I the blank page problem with a combination of escape sequences and logicalnL names - Please send email to gerald.marsh@barclays.co.uk if you want details& of the text library modules I'm using.   (It's a swine of a problem!)   Gerald.   5 Phillip Helbig <helbig@astro.rug.nl> wrote in message ( news:8epuqa$81g$2@info.service.rug.nl...9 > In article <391054CE.F331506C@bbc.co.uk>, Tim Llewellynu# > <tim.llewellyn@bbc.co.uk> writes:  >n@ > > I've been having more fun with blank pages and HP Laserjets. >.E > I remember using a 1200 DPI A0 colour printer under unix where theysG > forgot to make -h the default.  Now THAT'S what I call a header page!g   ------------------------------  # Date: Wed, 03 May 2000 22:08:03 GMTr! From: JPE <jengstrom@my-deja.com>g! Subject: LBR$OUTPUT_HELP Questions) Message-ID: <8eq7vn$1nl$1@nnrp1.deja.com>   D One of the things that has always impressed me about VMS is its HELPD facilities.  Recently I started to code a version of LBR$OUTPUT_HELPH for another OS.  As part of that project, I started playing with the DCLD HELP command and observing the behavior.  During this observation, IG noticed something with VMS HELP that doesn't seem right.  Perhaps there G are people in this newsgroup that can either explain the reason for thec' odd behavior or do something to fix it.   F If you type "HELP SHOW BOVINE" from the DCL prompt you get the message@ "Sorry, no documentation on SHOW BOVINE" followed by "AdditionalG information available:" and a list of the SHOW command's subtopics.  IfeA you type in a subtopic, for example CPU, you get a message saying G "Sorry, no documentation on CPU" because it was prompting with "Topic?"mB after the "HELP SHOW BOVINE" command.  Even though it displays theG subtopics for SHOW, it prompts with "Topic?" and expects you to enter a E top level help topic.  Any rationale for this behavior or is it truly$ "broke"?   J.P.E.    & Sent via Deja.com http://www.deja.com/ Before you buy.    ------------------------------  % Date: Wed, 03 May 2000 15:29:29 -0400n0 From: JF Mezei <jfmezei.spamnot@vl.videotron.ca>) Subject: Re: Moving data from VMS to UNIXn/ Message-ID: <39107E18.CDD86F4B@vl.videotron.ca>s   > JONES Christopher wrote:O > > Is there a way to backup VMS files to tape and read the tape from a SolaristO > > UNIX box?  I need to export data from an Oracle database and import it intoe* > > an Oracle database on a UNIX platform.  N How big is the data ? Have you considered using FTP or even KERMIT to transfer! the data between the 2 machines ?>   ------------------------------   Date: 3 May 2000 22:03:00 GMT 0 From: fdc@watsun.cc.columbia.edu (Frank da Cruz)) Subject: Re: Moving data from VMS to UNIX 5 Message-ID: <8eq7mk$q1k$1@newsmaster.cc.columbia.edu>   / In article <39107E18.CDD86F4B@vl.videotron.ca>,t2 JF Mezei  <jfmezei.spamnot@vl.videotron.ca> wrote: : > JONES Christopher wrote:I : > > Is there a way to backup VMS files to tape and read the tape from arJ : > > Solaris UNIX box?  I need to export data from an Oracle database and; : > > import it into an Oracle database on a UNIX platform.  : G : How big is the data ? Have you considered using FTP or even KERMIT too, : transfer the data between the 2 machines ? :iE Assuming the Oracle export / import format really works, yes, you caneH use FTP or Kermit.  FTP requires a network connection, Kermit works over% either serial or network connections.   G You can also use ANSI (not BACKUP) tapes if the two computers share the E same kind of tape drive.  You can find Unix programs for reading (and  writing) ANSI tapes here:   +   http://www.columbia.edu/kermit/other.htmli  L Follow the FTP link to Tape Utilities, get the README.TXT file, and read it.   - Frank    ------------------------------  # Date: Wed, 03 May 2000 18:43:32 GMTS& From: "Marco Shaw" <marco@nbnet.nb.ca> Subject: OpenVMS disk space?: Message-ID: <01bfb52f$4b34b8e0$12ae868e@Lxxxx.nbtel.nb.ca>  G I have a system with only 300MB of disk space.  Will I be able to put au. minimum Alpha OpenVMS 7.2 system on this disk?  K Also, can I do a remote install (don't have a CD on the system) via regularo ftp or tftp?   Thanks,o Marcol   ------------------------------   Date: 3 May 2000 21:04:51 +0200-* From: eplan@kapsch.net (Peter LANGSTOEGER)  Subject: Re: OpenVMS disk space?* Message-ID: <39107853$1@news.kapsch.co.at>  c In article <01bfb52f$4b34b8e0$12ae868e@Lxxxx.nbtel.nb.ca>, "Marco Shaw" <marco@nbnet.nb.ca> writes:nH >I have a system with only 300MB of disk space.  Will I be able to put a/ >minimum Alpha OpenVMS 7.2 system on this disk?   < I wouldn't want to try it. I wouldn't want to get below 1GB.I All libraries compressed, no/too-small page/swap files, no dump file (ok,oF you can have one on another disk, but you didn't mention other disks),L taylored off components, no additional layered products on the system disk ?N No thanks. VMS without whistles is worthless for me (but it should be doable).  M Buy a new disk for a few bucks. V7.2 is much better in handling non-DEC diskso than earlier VMS versions.  L >Also, can I do a remote install (don't have a CD on the system) via regular
 >ftp or tftp?n  2 Not via FTP or TFTP but via MOP from an InfoServer  J But you can also install it from another disk. You don't really need a CD.  , How about reading the installation guide ;-)  = 	http://www.openvms.digital.com/doc/72final/6522/6522pro.html    -- a< Peter "EPLAN" LANGSTOEGER           Tel.    +43 1 81111-2651; Network and OpenVMS system manager  Fax.    +43 1 81111-888t< FBFV/Information Services           E-mail  eplan@kapsch.netF <<< KAPSCH AG  Wagenseilgasse 1     PSImail PSI%(0232)281001141::EPLANH A-1121 VIENNA  AUSTRIA              "I'm not a pessimist, I'm a realist"N "VMS is today what Microsoft wants Windows NT V8.0 to be!" Compaq, 22-Sep-1998   ------------------------------   Date: 3 May 2000 19:08:52 GMT 2 From: hoffman@xdelta.zko.dec.nospam (Hoff Hoffman)  Subject: Re: OpenVMS disk space?6 Message-ID: <8eptg4$kqf$1@mailint03.im.hou.compaq.com>  c In article <01bfb52f$4b34b8e0$12ae868e@Lxxxx.nbtel.nb.ca>, "Marco Shaw" <marco@nbnet.nb.ca> writes:y  H   Since there is little detail on the target environment (eg: particularK   Alpha, existing contents on the target disk, etc), some of the following iE   may or may not be applicable to your particular system environment.t  H :I have a system with only 300MB of disk space.  Will I be able to put a/ :minimum Alpha OpenVMS 7.2 system on this disk?-  H   Yes.  According to the OpenVMS SPD, OpenVMS Alpha V7.2 can be stuffed H   into 78 MB plus roughly another 40 MB for the paging file.  Now as to G   having enough to do anything useful (eg: DECwindows, DECnet, TCP/IP, eJ   the "optional" system files, compilers, etc), you'll likely need rather     more disk storage than 300 MB.  G   OpenVMS cannot share storage with another (non-ODS) file system, eachmF   operating system needs its own spindle.  (And whatever you do, don'tF   let Windows NT write anything to any OpenVMS disk, whether NT claimsC   it is "harmless" or otherwise.  You'll end up needing to use the s9   OpenVMS WRITEBOOT tool to recover from the corruption.)   L :Also, can I do a remote install (don't have a CD on the system) via regular
 :ftp or tftp?e  I   No, not via those protocols -- well, not without a second disk of 600MBAJ   or larger on the target system and some careful file transfers.  Get (orF   borrow) a CD-ROM drive for the target Alpha system, at least for the   installation.   G   Far and away the easiest approach -- bot to describe, to install, and-H   to use -- involves the acquisition of sufficient disk storage and the 6   CD-ROM drive for whichever Alpha system is involved.  N  --------------------------- pure personal opinion ---------------------------L    Hoff (Stephen) Hoffman   OpenVMS Engineering   hoffman#xdelta.zko.dec.com   ------------------------------   Date: 3 May 2000 19:47:48 GMT88 From: hammond@not@peek.ppb.cpqcorp.net (Charlie Hammond)  Subject: Re: OpenVMS disk space?6 Message-ID: <8epvp4$lqj$1@mailint03.im.hou.compaq.com>  ; In article <01bfb52f$4b34b8e0$12ae868e@Lxxxx.nbtel.nb.ca>, m( "Marco Shaw" <marco@nbnet.nb.ca> writes:H >I have a system with only 300MB of disk space.  Will I be able to put a/ >minimum Alpha OpenVMS 7.2 system on this disk?c  I Theoretically, yes.  As a practical matter you will have a pretty limited-C "minimum" system.  I would recommend a minimum of 1GB -- either twoF8 500MB disks (one system; one user) or a single 1GB disk.   Here is more information:t  M           ___________________________________________________________________u#                               Space M           File_Category_______Used______Running_Total________________________s   .           Minimum OpenVMS      78 MB     78 MB           filese  S.           Optional OpenVMS    106 MV    184 MB           files                 .           DECwindows           32 MB    216 MB           Supporta  .           Paging file          38 MB    254 MB           (required)  .           Swap file (sug-       3 MB    257 MB           gested)o  .           Dump file (op-       28 MB    285 MB2           tional)                                   .           Decompressed         15 MB    300 MB           Help files           (optional)   .           Full DECwindows      90 MB    390 MB           Motif V1.2-5           (optional)  .           Safeguard for        50 MB    440 MBM           upgrading__________________________________________________________t  H           Note: The minimum OpenVMS files listed in the table will allowI           you to run with minimal functionality. Not all OpenVMS commands I           and utilities will function fully as documented in this minimum L           configuration. Not all Compaq and other layered products will work(           in this minimum configuration.  H           The minimum OpenVMS files are for a system configuration whereI           all optional features have been declined during the initial in-(L           stallation. For most applications, this is not a realistic OpenVMS           environment.                                       L Please read these two paragraphs (above), and also realize that these totals' do NOT include any networking software.-    L >Also, can I do a remote install (don't have a CD on the system) via regular
 >ftp or tftp?p   No.     I OpenVMS Alpha requires access to a CD-ROM for installation and upgrade.  aD This can be provide by a directly connected CD reader, or by access  to an InfoServer.-   -- eK     Charlie Hammond -- Compaq Computer Corporation -- Pompano Beach  FL USAmF          (hammond@peek.ppb.cpqcorp.net -- remove "@not" when replying)J       All opinions expressed are my own and not necessarily my employer's.   ------------------------------   Date: 3 May 2000 19:55:56 GMTF* From: helbig@astro.rug.nl (Phillip Helbig)  Subject: Re: OpenVMS disk space?. Message-ID: <8eq08c$81g$5@info.service.rug.nl>  6 In article <8eptg4$kqf$1@mailint03.im.hou.compaq.com>,5 hoffman@xdelta.zko.dec.nospam (Hoff Hoffman) writes: h  J > :I have a system with only 300MB of disk space.  Will I be able to put a1 > :minimum Alpha OpenVMS 7.2 system on this disk?  > J >   Yes.  According to the OpenVMS SPD, OpenVMS Alpha V7.2 can be stuffed J >   into 78 MB plus roughly another 40 MB for the paging file.  Now as to I >   having enough to do anything useful (eg: DECwindows, DECnet, TCP/IP, ML >   the "optional" system files, compilers, etc), you'll likely need rather " >   more disk storage than 300 MB.  H A previous poster said he wouldn't go under 1 GB.  I have a DEC RZ26F asG the system disk, 2050860 total blocks, with 7.2-1.  There is no non-DEC-B stuff on this disk.  At the moment, there are 237819 free blocks. ; Pretty full, but still room to move.  I have a normal "fullsC installation" and many layered products like compilers, DECwindows,rG TCPIP etc (but no DECnet).  It seems to me that a 1 GB disk as a systemeE disk is big enough not to have to worry about space, as long as it is G used just as the system disk and there is no non-DEC stuff on it.  I DOr< have auxiliary page and swap files on another disk, though.   H How long will this continue to be the case?  Will one really either haveH to have a bigger system disk or worry about space in the future, as long& as one has a setup similar to my own?   C I think it is a good idea to have the big swap and page files on a aA different disk, as it reduces the size of an /IMAGE backup.  I'm  C thinking about moving all node-specific files to another disk (and rH setting up logicals to point to them---which one has to do in a cluster F anyway, so why not have these on NONE of the system disks) to make it I easier to upgrade ONE system disk from CD and then do disk-to-disk image sC backups for the others, instead of upgrading them all individually.-   ------------------------------  $ Date: Wed, 3 May 2000 19:38:04 -0500) From: "John E. Malmberg" <wb8tyw@qsl.net>.  Subject: Re: OpenVMS disk space?. Message-ID: <sh1h8q4dc3449@corp.supernews.com>  ) Marco Shaw <marco@nbnet.nb.canada> wrote::  E > Also, can I do a remote install (don't have a CD on the system) via  regular? > ftp or tftp?  L I am only aware of booting a remote CD-ROM from an Infoserver using LAD/LAST	 protocol.c  J The other method of loading software on a CD-ROM less system is to have it& join a VMSCluster using LAVC protocol.  J In both cases, I believe that MOP is used as a primary bootstrap mechanism only.e   -John  wb8tyw@qsl.network   ------------------------------  % Date: Wed, 03 May 2000 15:34:56 -0400-0 From: JF Mezei <jfmezei.spamnot@vl.videotron.ca> Subject: Re: OpenVMS marketing/ Message-ID: <39107F60.2965A579@vl.videotron.ca>n   Nigel Arnot wrote:H > Compaq bought some well-hidden jewels with Digital, but I don't see it > un-hiding them.]  M Remember that Bobby GQ Palmer had been talking to Pfeiffer for 3 years beforebJ the transaction. During that time Pfeiffer was able to tell Palmer what toJ dispose of in order to make Digital purchasable by Compaq. But conversely,M Palmer probably had sufficient contacts with Compaq to convince them that VMSAN was a liability, not an asset. He probably convinced them that VMS was seen asH dead, proprietary etc etc and that all Compaq could hope for was to milkN remaining customers for a few more years. As such, Compaq probably has quite aM few who beleive that VMS is a liability and that Compaq should keep it hidden0 as much as possible.   ------------------------------  % Date: Wed, 03 May 2000 21:32:31 -0700e# From: Peter Prymmer <pvhp@best.com>m  Subject: Re: Perl links outdated( Message-ID: <3910FD5F.173141A6@best.com>   JF Mezei wrote:h  I > In trying to find the latest and greatest PERL distributiuon for VMS, InJ > stumbled on he following sites that are supposed to contain what I want: >e! > ftp://genetics.upenn.edu/perl5/bB >         (from http://w4.lns.cornell.edu/~pvhp/perl/VMS.html#A3 ) >N, > http://www.sidhe.org/vmsperl/prebuilt.htmlF >         (from http://www.perl.com/CPAN-local//ports/index.html#vms ) >IN > Unfortunatly, neither dns names can be resolved. Does anyone know where they > have moved to ?m  M I am the author of the document at w4.lns.cornell.edu.   Unfortunately I haveML relocated and that page remains as it was several years ago and is currently
 unmaintained.fA The pages of info at www.sidhe.org ought to be fairly up to date.13 This evening I can resolve www.sidhe.org just fine:i   Name:    www.sidhe.org Address:  24.8.96.48  N From the URL you posted I would guess that you are after pre-built binaries of perlO for VMS (on the other hand if you have DECC or Compaq C then you can build perlrP from source as is from a nearby CPAN mirror on VMS - this is what I do in fact).  P Unfortunately I do not have any information on prebuilt binaries other than what is at:  -    http://www.sidhe.org/vmsperl/prebuilt.html-  G If you would like more up to date information then please send email to  vmsperl@perl.orgK and inquire about recent binary kits.  Subscription to the list is optionalr (most folks Cc:  replies as a matter of course).0   I hope that helps.  
 Peter Prymmer  pvhp@forte.com
 pvhp@best.comv   ------------------------------  % Date: Wed, 03 May 2000 21:36:26 -0700 # From: Peter Prymmer <pvhp@best.com>   Subject: Re: Perl links outdated( Message-ID: <3910FE4A.A99CC3AA@best.com>   JF Mezei wrote:t  I > In trying to find the latest and greatest PERL distributiuon for VMS, I J > stumbled on he following sites that are supposed to contain what I want: >s! > ftp://genetics.upenn.edu/perl5/0B >         (from http://w4.lns.cornell.edu/~pvhp/perl/VMS.html#A3 ) >r, > http://www.sidhe.org/vmsperl/prebuilt.htmlF >         (from http://www.perl.com/CPAN-local//ports/index.html#vms ) > N > Unfortunatly, neither dns names can be resolved. Does anyone know where they > have moved to ?a  M I am the author of the document at w4.lns.cornell.edu.   Unfortunately I haverL relocated and that page remains as it was several years ago and is currently
 unmaintained.$A The pages of info at www.sidhe.org ought to be fairly up to date.e3 This evening I can resolve www.sidhe.org just fine:e   Name:    www.sidhe.org Address:  24.8.96.48  N From the URL you posted I would guess that you are after pre-built binaries of perlO for VMS (on the other hand if you have DECC or Compaq C then you can build perlhP from source as is from a nearby CPAN mirror on VMS - this is what I do in fact).  P Unfortunately I do not have any information on prebuilt binaries other than what is at:  -    http://www.sidhe.org/vmsperl/prebuilt.htmls  G If you would like more up to date information then please send email too vmsperl@perl.orgK and inquire about recent binary kits.  Subscription to the list is optionalo (most folks Cc:u replies as a matter of course).o   I hope that helps.  
 Peter Prymmerr pvhp@forte.com
 pvhp@best.comh   ------------------------------  % Date: Wed, 03 May 2000 21:33:49 -0700H# From: Peter Prymmer <pvhp@best.com>c  Subject: Re: Perl links outdated( Message-ID: <3910FDAD.65E256B7@best.com>   JF Mezei wrote:o  I > In trying to find the latest and greatest PERL distributiuon for VMS, I J > stumbled on he following sites that are supposed to contain what I want: >m! > ftp://genetics.upenn.edu/perl5/oB >         (from http://w4.lns.cornell.edu/~pvhp/perl/VMS.html#A3 ) >7, > http://www.sidhe.org/vmsperl/prebuilt.htmlF >         (from http://www.perl.com/CPAN-local//ports/index.html#vms ) > N > Unfortunatly, neither dns names can be resolved. Does anyone know where they > have moved to ?t  M I am the author of the document at w4.lns.cornell.edu.   Unfortunately I havecL relocated and that page remains as it was several years ago and is currently
 unmaintained.-A The pages of info at www.sidhe.org ought to be fairly up to date.@3 This evening I can resolve www.sidhe.org just fine:M   Name:    www.sidhe.org Address:  24.8.96.48  N From the URL you posted I would guess that you are after pre-built binaries of perlO for VMS (on the other hand if you have DECC or Compaq C then you can build perl:P from source as is from a nearby CPAN mirror on VMS - this is what I do in fact).  P Unfortunately I do not have any information on prebuilt binaries other than what is at:  -    http://www.sidhe.org/vmsperl/prebuilt.htmlo  G If you would like more up to date information then please send email ton vmsperl@perl.orgK and inquire about recent binary kits.  Subscription to the list is optionalo (most folks Cc:e replies as a matter of course).s   I hope that helps.  
 Peter Prymmerr pvhp@forte.com
 pvhp@best.come   ------------------------------  % Date: Wed, 03 May 2000 21:34:12 -0700h# From: Peter Prymmer <pvhp@best.com>o  Subject: Re: Perl links outdated( Message-ID: <3910FDC4.4758790B@best.com>   JF Mezei wrote:.  I > In trying to find the latest and greatest PERL distributiuon for VMS, IMJ > stumbled on he following sites that are supposed to contain what I want: > ! > ftp://genetics.upenn.edu/perl5/mB >         (from http://w4.lns.cornell.edu/~pvhp/perl/VMS.html#A3 ) >g, > http://www.sidhe.org/vmsperl/prebuilt.htmlF >         (from http://www.perl.com/CPAN-local//ports/index.html#vms ) > N > Unfortunatly, neither dns names can be resolved. Does anyone know where they > have moved to ?v  M I am the author of the document at w4.lns.cornell.edu.   Unfortunately I have-L relocated and that page remains as it was several years ago and is currently
 unmaintained.TA The pages of info at www.sidhe.org ought to be fairly up to date.e3 This evening I can resolve www.sidhe.org just fine:e   Name:    www.sidhe.org Address:  24.8.96.48  N From the URL you posted I would guess that you are after pre-built binaries of perlO for VMS (on the other hand if you have DECC or Compaq C then you can build perliP from source as is from a nearby CPAN mirror on VMS - this is what I do in fact).  P Unfortunately I do not have any information on prebuilt binaries other than what is at:  -    http://www.sidhe.org/vmsperl/prebuilt.htmll  G If you would like more up to date information then please send email tow vmsperl@perl.orgK and inquire about recent binary kits.  Subscription to the list is optionale (most folks Cc:- replies as a matter of course).i   I hope that helps.  
 Peter Prymmerl pvhp@forte.com
 pvhp@best.com)   ------------------------------  % Date: Wed, 03 May 2000 21:36:04 -0700o# From: Peter Prymmer <pvhp@best.com>   Subject: Re: Perl links outdated( Message-ID: <3910FE34.C5A1CDA0@best.com>   JF Mezei wrote:   I > In trying to find the latest and greatest PERL distributiuon for VMS, IeJ > stumbled on he following sites that are supposed to contain what I want: >y! > ftp://genetics.upenn.edu/perl5/8B >         (from http://w4.lns.cornell.edu/~pvhp/perl/VMS.html#A3 ) >A, > http://www.sidhe.org/vmsperl/prebuilt.htmlF >         (from http://www.perl.com/CPAN-local//ports/index.html#vms ) >tN > Unfortunatly, neither dns names can be resolved. Does anyone know where they > have moved to ?   M I am the author of the document at w4.lns.cornell.edu.   Unfortunately I havedL relocated and that page remains as it was several years ago and is currently
 unmaintained.$A The pages of info at www.sidhe.org ought to be fairly up to date.e3 This evening I can resolve www.sidhe.org just fine:.   Name:    www.sidhe.org Address:  24.8.96.48  N From the URL you posted I would guess that you are after pre-built binaries of perlO for VMS (on the other hand if you have DECC or Compaq C then you can build perl P from source as is from a nearby CPAN mirror on VMS - this is what I do in fact).  P Unfortunately I do not have any information on prebuilt binaries other than what is at:  -    http://www.sidhe.org/vmsperl/prebuilt.html   G If you would like more up to date information then please send email to  vmsperl@perl.orgK and inquire about recent binary kits.  Subscription to the list is optional  (most folks Cc:  replies as a matter of course).    I hope that helps.  
 Peter Prymmerp pvhp@forte.com
 pvhp@best.com    ------------------------------  # Date: Thu, 04 May 2000 15:21:37 FJTi2 From: "David Joe Gaunavou" <dgaunavou@hotmail.com>. Subject: Printing in Landscape - (Please help)4 Message-ID: <20000504032138.79914.qmail@hotmail.com>  4 I have tried printing in Landscape but unfortunately  it came up with a error message.& I am having problems with the library./ Please shed some light to this as I am abit new  with the librarian utility.l& I am not sure where I have gone wrong.   Thanks In Advance . Davidr   Error message is as follows:  F Printer queue HEAD$2100, idle, on NODEA::"1.1.1.1:9100", mounted form  HP_LANDSCAPE (stock=A4)t2   <TCP Queue HP Laserjet Printer 2100 - 3rd Floor>@   /BASE_PRIORITY=4 /DEFAULT=(FEED,FORM=HP_LANDSCAPE (stock=A4)) , /LIBRARY=LANDSCAPE Lowercase /OWNER=[SYSTEM]F   /PROCESSOR=UCX$TELNETSYM /PROTECTION=(S:M,O:D,G:R,W:S) /RETAIN=ERROR  4   Entry  Jobname         Username     Blocks  Status4   -----  -------         --------     ------  ------>     524  PRT             SYSTEM           3  Retained on errorC        %PSM-E-MODNOTFND, library module !AS not found in record !ULp&        -LBR-E-KEYNOTFND, key not foundI          Submitted  4-MAY-2000 14:18:41.24 /FORM=HP_LANDSCAPE (stock=A4)  
 /PRIORITY=100f'          File: _DKB0:[SYSTEM]PRT.TEST;4,=          Completed  4-MAY-2000 14:18:46.81 on queue HEAD$2100w        H ________________________________________________________________________H Get Your Private, Free E-mail from MSN Hotmail at http://www.hotmail.com   ------------------------------  $ Date: Thu, 4 May 2000 13:58:29 +1000/ From: "Phil Howell" <howellp@snowyhydro.com.au>o2 Subject: Re: Printing in Landscape - (Please help)3 Message-ID: <My6Q4.10242$PL4.276776@ozemail.com.au>_  ; David Joe Gaunavou <dgaunavou@hotmail.com> wrote in message . news:20000504032138.79914.qmail@hotmail.com...6 > I have tried printing in Landscape but unfortunately" > it came up with a error message.( > I am having problems with the library.1 > Please shed some light to this as I am abit new  > with the librarian utility.o( > I am not sure where I have gone wrong. >r > Thanks In Advance . David  >  > Error message is as follows: >iG > Printer queue HEAD$2100, idle, on NODEA::"1.1.1.1:9100", mounted formo > HP_LANDSCAPE (stock=A4)-4 >   <TCP Queue HP Laserjet Printer 2100 - 3rd Floor>A >   /BASE_PRIORITY=4 /DEFAULT=(FEED,FORM=HP_LANDSCAPE (stock=A4)) . > /LIBRARY=LANDSCAPE Lowercase /OWNER=[SYSTEM]H >   /PROCESSOR=UCX$TELNETSYM /PROTECTION=(S:M,O:D,G:R,W:S) /RETAIN=ERROR > 6 >   Entry  Jobname         Username     Blocks  Status6 >   -----  -------         --------     ------  ------@ >     524  PRT             SYSTEM           3  Retained on errorE >        %PSM-E-MODNOTFND, library module !AS not found in record !ULt( >        -LBR-E-KEYNOTFND, key not foundJ >          Submitted  4-MAY-2000 14:18:41.24 /FORM=HP_LANDSCAPE (stock=A4) > /PRIORITY=100 ) >          File: _DKB0:[SYSTEM]PRT.TEST;4a? >          Completed  4-MAY-2000 14:18:46.81 on queue HEAD$2100. If you do a % $ show queue /form /full hp_landscapet@ it will show you the setup module that it needs ie. /setup=hpxxx? the default device control library is sys$library:sysdevctl.tlba if you do at* $ lib /lis /full sys$library:sysdevctl.tlb0 it will show you what modules are in the library and hpxxx is not thereI you need to construct a file called hpxxx.txt using your favourite editorn8 and insert it into the library (see HELP LIBRARY INSERT) Phil   ------------------------------  # Date: Wed, 03 May 2000 14:35:09 EDTM) From: "Mike Patrick" <mfbnl1@hotmail.com>t Subject: Problem with UCX$BIND4 Message-ID: <20000503183509.57576.qmail@hotmail.com>  + VMS 7.1-1H1; UCX 4.2 ECO 1; AS4100 & AS4000i  L I'm having a problem with bind on the above machines.  The UCX$BIND process L will run for between 5 minutes and 1 hour and then will get caught in a CPU M loop taking up 100% of one CPU.  I restart the process and the cycle repeats -L itself.  I've looked around on Compaq's web site with no luck.  Also on the K AS4100 I have a TP_SERVER process that is 100% CPU bound.  I'm new to bind sL so any information will be appreciated.  Let me know if more info is needed.H ________________________________________________________________________H Get Your Private, Free E-mail from MSN Hotmail at http://www.hotmail.com   ------------------------------   Date: 3 May 2000 20:52:46 +0200V* From: eplan@kapsch.net (Peter LANGSTOEGER)" Subject: Re: Problem with UCX$BIND* Message-ID: <3910757e$1@news.kapsch.co.at>  ` In article <20000503183509.57576.qmail@hotmail.com>, "Mike Patrick" <mfbnl1@hotmail.com> writes:, >VMS 7.1-1H1; UCX 4.2 ECO 1; AS4100 & AS4000 > M >I'm having a problem with bind on the above machines.  The UCX$BIND process eM >will run for between 5 minutes and 1 hour and then will get caught in a CPU -N >loop taking up 100% of one CPU.  I restart the process and the cycle repeats M >itself.  I've looked around on Compaq's web site with no luck.  Also on the tL >AS4100 I have a TP_SERVER process that is 100% CPU bound.  I'm new to bind M >so any information will be appreciated.  Let me know if more info is needed.h  > 1.) Upgrade to UCX V4.2 ECO 3 available at the COMPAQ web siteG 2.) Stop the TP_SERVER if you don't need it. UCX/TCPIP doesn't need it.a/ 	Define SYS$DECDTM_INHIBIT TRUE in your startup D 3.) After this and if the problem persists, you could drop me a line@ 	and I will check your BIND configuration (better do it offline)   --  < Peter "EPLAN" LANGSTOEGER           Tel.    +43 1 81111-2651; Network and OpenVMS system manager  Fax.    +43 1 81111-888r< FBFV/Information Services           E-mail  eplan@kapsch.netF <<< KAPSCH AG  Wagenseilgasse 1     PSImail PSI%(0232)281001141::EPLANH A-1121 VIENNA  AUSTRIA              "I'm not a pessimist, I'm a realist"N "VMS is today what Microsoft wants Windows NT V8.0 to be!" Compaq, 22-Sep-1998   ------------------------------  $ Date: Wed, 3 May 2000 11:26:37 -0700/ From: Terry Marosites <TMarosites@unitedad.com>i> Subject: problems  on VMS 7.2 was RE: UCX ftp crash on VMS 7.2M Message-ID: <1137A4A23A51D311B2D600105A1D5213019AEDDE@seantexch.unitedad.com>O  
 Hello ALL,G I have not expected to be going to 7.2, BUT I am getting a new ALPHA to@J replace my VAX (7.1) and was planning on the Alpha to be 7.1, If I let theJ vendor install 7.2 it will save me an upgrade and gain me a weekend off. IF have noticed the talk about ftp on 7.2 is their any other gotchyas. MyL application provider has not upgraded to 7.2 and tested their applications.    Thanks   Terry      -----Original Message-----0 From: eplan@kapsch.net [mailto:eplan@kapsch.net]& Sent: Wednesday, May 03, 2000 10:06 AM To: Info-VAX@Mvb.Saic.Com-% Subject: Re: UCX ftp crash on VMS 7.21  C In article <391030B4.8B82AEC9@clarityconnect.com>, "Mark D. Jilson"c" <jilly@clarityconnect.com> writes:H >Please contact your local CSC, if you have a software services contact,> >as there is a TCPIP$BGDRIVER.EXE available to fix this issue.  3 It's really time now for a TCPIP V5.0B (or a V5.1).e5 A dot zero version and then nothing for a long time ?t  9 Yes, there are a lot of patches for TCPIP V5.0 and V5.0A.oG But they are not ECOs, you don't know them, you have no infos, how theyl" correlate to each other and so on.  H Should we expect UCX/TCPIP to stay/keep the worst quality product of DEQ for OpenVMS ? I hope not...    --< Peter "EPLAN" LANGSTOEGER           Tel.    +43 1 81111-2651; Network and OpenVMS system manager  Fax.    +43 1 81111-888e< FBFV/Information Services           E-mail  eplan@kapsch.netF <<< KAPSCH AG  Wagenseilgasse 1     PSImail PSI%(0232)281001141::EPLANH A-1121 VIENNA  AUSTRIA              "I'm not a pessimist, I'm a realist"B "VMS is today what Microsoft wants Windows NT V8.0 to be!" Compaq, 22-Sep-1998d    5 *****************************************************w    5 *****************************************************d4 Any views or opinions are solely those of the author) and do not necessarily represent those ofn United News& Media.i5 *****************************************************n4 The information transmitted is intended only for the1 person or entity to which it is addressed and may/3 contain confidential and/or privileged material. If 3 you are not the intended recipient of this message,e. please do not read, copy, use or disclose this3 communication and notify the sender immediately. It.0 should be noted that any review, retransmission,2 dissemination or other use of, or taking action in- reliance upon, this information by persons ore- entities other than the intended recipient isi prohibited.l5 *****************************************************  **   ------------------------------   Date: 3 May 2000 18:30:42 GMTa2 From: hoffman@xdelta.zko.dec.nospam (Hoff Hoffman)B Subject: Re: problems  on VMS 7.2 was RE: UCX ftp crash on VMS 7.26 Message-ID: <8epr8i$jt3$1@mailint03.im.hou.compaq.com>   In article <1137A4A23A51D311B2D600105A1D5213019AEDDE@seantexch.unitedad.com>, Terry Marosites <TMarosites@unitedad.com> writes:wH :I have not expected to be going to 7.2, BUT I am getting a new ALPHA to> :replace my VAX (7.1) and was planning on the Alpha to be 7.1,  @   If it is a new Alpha (21264 EV6 or EV67), then it must run at    least OpenVMS Alpha V7.1-2.a  I : If I let the vendor install 7.2 it will save me an upgrade and gain me  : : a weekend off. I have noticed the talk about ftp on 7.2   C   The FTP version is not directly related to the OpenVMS version.  uA   It is related to the TCP/IP Services version.  TCP/IP Services .B   V5.0A is the current version for OpenVMS VAX V7.1 and later and #   for OpenVMS Alpha V7.1 and later.    :is their any other gotchyas.a  B   This "any other gotchas" question comes up quite regularly, and -   there can be no particular general answer. .  C   There are undoubtedly a few "gotchas" that have been encountered l@   by a few sites, but figuring out the what and the if and if it?   applies specifically to you is nearly impossible based on thee$   contents of a newsgroup posting...  $   Get and apply the current ECO kit.     Read the directions.  :   Read the new features and release notes for all releases7   between your current release and your target release.d   7   Realize that what you know about VAX upgrades differst+   rather substantially from Alpha upgrades.e  :   Read the new features and release notes for all releases7   between your current release and your target release.a     Read the directions.  6   Consider if you want DECnet-Plus or DECnet Phase IV.  :   Read the new features and release notes for all releases7   between your current release and your target release.o     Read the directions.  C : My application provider has not upgraded to 7.2 and tested their / : applications.   :   That can be a problem (if the application doesn't work).  7   Your Alpha will appear with either V7.1-2, or V7.2-1.u  C   Check the support databases for the list of recommended ECO kits.mF   (Via DSN, via http://ftp.digital.com.au/pub/ecoinfo/, or otherwise.)H   Also check the Software Rollout Reports (swroll) stuff (referenced by C   the OpenVMS FAQ) for the recommended/minimum version information.e  F   Oh, and did I suggest that you will want to read the directions. :-)  N  --------------------------- pure personal opinion ---------------------------L    Hoff (Stephen) Hoffman   OpenVMS Engineering   hoffman#xdelta.zko.dec.com   ------------------------------   Date: 3 May 2000 20:47:34 +0200r* From: eplan@kapsch.net (Peter LANGSTOEGER)B Subject: Re: problems  on VMS 7.2 was RE: UCX ftp crash on VMS 7.2* Message-ID: <39107446$1@news.kapsch.co.at>   In article <1137A4A23A51D311B2D600105A1D5213019AEDDE@seantexch.unitedad.com>, Terry Marosites <TMarosites@unitedad.com> writes:mH >I have not expected to be going to 7.2, BUT I am getting a new ALPHA toK >replace my VAX (7.1) and was planning on the Alpha to be 7.1, If I let thegK >vendor install 7.2 it will save me an upgrade and gain me a weekend off. ItG >have noticed the talk about ftp on 7.2 is their any other gotchyas. MyiM >application provider has not upgraded to 7.2 and tested their applications.    L AFAIK, V7.1[-x] will get to Prior-Version-Support this summer (which is realM soon now). This makes me nervous (my company will cancel all contracts then).i  L V7.2-1 is better than V7.2, so let your vendor start with V7.1 (with umpteenH patches - over 60 I think) or maybe V7.1-2 (with some patches) or V7.2-1L (with currently only 5 patches). V7.2 is IMHO not of interest, if you aren't already there.  K V7.2[-1] officially requires TCPIP V5 (mostly because of ODS-5) and this isbH one of the major reason, why we still haven't upgraded to V7.2. TCPIP V5F requires a lot of work/fixes to do (management/config issues, but also bugfixes via patches).  H Upgrade to TCPIP on a test system. Try it. Fix it. And then upgrade yourN V7.1 production system to TCPIP. You surely won't fix an awful lot of problemsJ at the same time if you upgrade (or newly install) VMS and TCPIP together.     just my 0.02 -- e< Peter "EPLAN" LANGSTOEGER           Tel.    +43 1 81111-2651; Network and OpenVMS system manager  Fax.    +43 1 81111-888:< FBFV/Information Services           E-mail  eplan@kapsch.netF <<< KAPSCH AG  Wagenseilgasse 1     PSImail PSI%(0232)281001141::EPLANH A-1121 VIENNA  AUSTRIA              "I'm not a pessimist, I'm a realist"N "VMS is today what Microsoft wants Windows NT V8.0 to be!" Compaq, 22-Sep-1998   ------------------------------  $ Date: Wed, 3 May 2000 15:50:11 -0400= From: Robert Alexander <Robert.Alexander@premier-systems.net>p. Subject: question about Alphastation 200 4/100Q Message-ID: <3196CB87B9B2D111937A00A0C99E50DF852ABB@premmail.premier-systems.net>t  J Hello all, can somebody tell me what is the part number of my alphastationE 200 4/100   (Model PB40A-AA)?? I have looked briefly at the board andsK realize that it is a Mach64 based board... does anyone have any informationi about it (ie: memory, etc...)  y  L Also, I have a monitor that showed up here that is a DEC monitor- appears toK be a model: PCXBV-PC. What is this monitor? What are it's specs? I searchedlJ through the great Compaq website without much luck... I found a few thingsE on the graphics cards that came in alphastation 200 4/266 and such...e   Thanks! You guys are great!    Robert Alexander Sr. Unix Administrator Enterprise Servicess i-bridge$ robert.alexander@premier-systems.net   ------------------------------  % Date: Wed, 03 May 2000 15:23:47 -0400pG From: "Swaffield, Harold [CRK:1342:EXCH]" <hswaffie@americasm01.nt.com>: Subject: Re: SA-100e2 Message-ID: <39107CC2.83F038D0@americasm01.nt.com>  < I believe that the part your looking for holds 7 tapes P/N -   30-32447-01n   Hope this meets the needs.   emanuel stiebler wrote:n   > Hi,  > E > anybody out here, has one of them working ? (or just the manual ;-)n > G > What I'm looking for, is the DEC Part Number of the magazin for the 6n > Cartriges. >l > thanks a lot,A	 > emanuelw   ------------------------------  $ Date: Wed, 3 May 2000 21:09:55 -06000 From: Phillip Williams <phdevax@sleepy.lobo.net> Subject: Time to sell/traderF Message-ID: <Pine.LNX.4.21.0005032051010.10238-100000@sleepy.lobo.net>   Helloe" I got the following for sell/trade> 1 DECstation 5000/200 It has 2 memory simms and a PMAG-D video> board in it. I think that some of the chips on the PMAG-D are  missing but not sure.  B.O.tD 1 DECstation 5000/200 It has 3 memory simms and a PMAG-D video boardC These are as is, since I am not good with Ultrix/Unix machines. B.OUA 10 TK50s - good for parts or just for the old times. $2.00 apiecef 2 RX50s 2.00B I also have TK50 tapes with software, mostly DTR, C (not C++), CDD
 and Fortran. u@ I also have some BA23s with some (ugh) KA630s, VR290s, VTX1300s,B RX33 drives both single and double units. I am willing to considerC all trades or cash. If you are in the southwest area and would likeb! to see what else I got e-mail me.e phillipt  B The day I switch to Lunix/Unix is the day I go back to my Atari!!!(                        LONG LIVE OpenVMS   ------------------------------  # Date: Wed, 03 May 2000 21:58:22 GMT)) From: Dan Sugalski <dan@tuatha.sidhe.org> / Subject: Re: VMS Perl system() truncating lines-; Message-ID: <2i1Q4.76723$hT2.327466@news1.rdc1.ct.home.com>   A In comp.lang.perl.misc T.E.Dickey <dickey@shell.clark.net> wrote:n4 > In comp.os.vms Larry Rosler <lr@hpl.hp.com> wrote:I >> In article <8ekqd3$ver$1@nnrp1.deja.com> on Mon, 01 May 2000 20:45:28 e7 >> GMT, ewilts@my-deja.com <ewilts@my-deja.com> says...sD >>> One of my developers is reporting that the Perl system() call isJ >>> truncating the argument to 256 characters.  I'm running Perl 5.005_03. >>> G >>> Is this a known limitation?  Can this limit to be expanded to 1K or0	 >>> more?   C >> The limitation is not in Perl.  It might well be in the command QG >> processor that the system() call is invoking.  One way to avoid the FJ >> limit would be to supply a list of arguments to system(), instead of a > >> long string that requires parsing by the command processor.  , > but isn't the command-line limit still 1k?K > (256 sounds like reading/writing a mailbox rather than the command line).   B The mailbox limit's a bit larger than that. You're hitting the DCLG 256-character command line limit here. I'm not sure there's a whole lot-# you can do about it, unfortunately.S   					Dan   ------------------------------   End of INFO-VAX 2000.248 ************************