1 INFO-VAX	Tue, 09 May 2000	Volume 2000 : Issue 258       Contents: Re: And they wonder why !! Re: And they wonder why !! Re: Asud fail logon H Charlie Matco on DFWDAYS, A Compaq Update Weekend June 2nd, 3rd, and 4th Console Manager Replacement  Re: Console Manager Replacement  Re: Console Manager Replacement ) Re: Get/set console enviornment variables  Re: Marketing opportunity  Re: Marketing opportunity / Re: MOP Deamon for DECSERVER under MS-DOS/WINxx  re:  OpenVMS marketing Re: OpenVMS marketing  Re: Samba for VMS  Re: Samba for VMS  Re: the latest billybox virus  Re: the latest billybox virus  Re: the latest billybox virus  Unsolicited OpenVMS/NT book  Re: Unsolicited OpenVMS/NT book  Re: Upgrading system disk 	 VMS pipes 
 Re: VMS pipes # Why  RZ28M can't be used on VAX3100 ' Re: Why  RZ28M can't be used on VAX3100   F ----------------------------------------------------------------------  # Date: Mon, 08 May 2000 19:02:36 GMT % From: jlsue <jlsuexxxz@dialupnet.com> # Subject: Re: And they wonder why !! 8 Message-ID: <gp3ehs4vqmr1b3mophllq5f99gnn73ij0c@4ax.com>  3 On Fri, 5 May 2000 17:53:32 GMT, "Terry C. Shannon"  <shannon@world.std.com> wrote:     >  >terry sK >Not an apologist for CPQ, just the owner of a defunct Personal Workstation  >433a. >   E Terry, I keep tellin' ya.  Those 433/500a systems can be converted to F run VMS and Unix.  Just that the el-cheapo IDE CDROM may not be one of the supported IDE devices.   Jeff1 Not speaking for anyone, certainly not DEC/Compaq - (get rid of the xxxx in my address to e-mail)    ------------------------------  # Date: Mon, 08 May 2000 19:10:55 GMT % From: jlsue <jlsuexxxz@dialupnet.com> # Subject: Re: And they wonder why !! 8 Message-ID: <sr3ehs8v9msaeioqkqdku1p0jugqc2r4n0@4ax.com>  D On Fri, 5 May 2000 15:36:16 -0400, "Bill Todd" <billtodd@foo.mv.com> wrote:   > J >Accepting the factual nature of that narrative, that would seem to be theJ >precise point at which Compaq bit off its nose to spite its face:  CompaqJ >had at least as much to gain from 64-bit W2K on Wildfire (and other AlphaE >systems) as MS did (and in both cases the value was at least as much M >symbolic as real), and negotiating a *fair* agreement (for a change), rather B >than moving beyond that to a punitive one, would have made sense. >   B Personally, I was happy to see the Alpha NT stuff finally bite the= dust, if only to finally put Bill-G in his place.  He stuffed C Digital's & Oracle's SHARK plans, and the NT Alpha (including 64bit E NT) were almost all Digital/Compaq resources.  Good ol' Bill-G didn't F have to put much into it at all, yet could still get licensing revenue@ out of it (and, with his predatory licensing practices, even get@ revenue out of the systems which wouldn't even run Bill-G's OS).  C The only advantage AlphaNT would have had is if it had a few  years C lead-time on Intel 64bit NT.  With the constant delays in 64bit NT, B and the constantly moving targets, it was apparent to me - viewingC only from the outside of all this - that we were quickly losing our C chance to get a jump on the competition.  And without this jump, it @ would be almost impossible to have a viable competitor to Intel.  B The end result would be a niche system that only some people wouldC even try, since Intel was so close to releasing their own 64bit cpu @ with NT, and since very few ISVs were interested in using Alpha.C Sure, Intel's 64bit CPU still hasn't made the light of day, but all A the marketing hype sure prevented many managers from investing in  Alpha.  E I would love to have seen Alpha beat Intel, but from all the news and ( marketing hype, it didn't seem possible.  ? Note:  My only experience with any of this is watching from the F outside, like most everyone else, by reading trade magazines and press	 releases.     1 Not speaking for anyone, certainly not DEC/Compaq - (get rid of the xxxx in my address to e-mail)    ------------------------------   Date: 8 May 2000 18:07:05 GMT 2 From: hoffman@xdelta.zko.dec.nospam (Hoff Hoffman) Subject: Re: Asud fail logon6 Message-ID: <8f6vo9$4ih$1@mailint03.im.hou.compaq.com>  F In article <8f6qg6$g49$1@nnrp1.deja.com>, jtaculoj@my-deja.com writes:; : I've an alpha server with asud and NT domain (simulation)  : $ : Everything goes right with netbiosE : Everything goes right with NEtbios over TCP/IP, but before a reboot H :you can log only with TCP/IP. But later you can map wiht tcp/ip but you :can't log with it.   G   If this is an OpenVMS question, what versions of OpenVMS and Advanced G   Server (PATHWORKS) are in use, and what exactly are you trying to do? E   Do you have the current OpenVMS and Advanced Server ECOs installed?   J   Given the phrasing of the question, were you actually intending to post G   this question in another (non-OpenVMS) newsgroup, one that might be a D   little better suited for and more familiar with NetBIOS questions?D   (Assuming this is _not_ a question of OpenVMS LAN Manager external   authentication, of course.)   N  --------------------------- pure personal opinion ---------------------------L    Hoff (Stephen) Hoffman   OpenVMS Engineering   hoffman#xdelta.zko.dec.com   ------------------------------  # Date: Tue, 09 May 2000 02:09:19 GMT 1 From: Pat Jankowiak <vaxhackery@worldnet.att.net> Q Subject: Charlie Matco on DFWDAYS, A Compaq Update Weekend June 2nd, 3rd, and 4th 0 Message-ID: <391773E1.285AFA79@worldnet.att.net>  K As Charlie Matco himself will put forth in the April 26 SKC, which goes out  tomorrow (late due to the  virus known as Windows 98)     DFWDAYS: DECUS Does Dallas  G The twice-yearly DECUS US Chapter symposium is a thing of the past, but K DECUS members need not wait until October for the CETS2000 symposium in Los F Angeles to get a heaping helping of the latest Compaq Faqs and Red Hot Product Updates.L The Dallas Fort Worth Compaq Users Group is putting the finishing touches onL the Y2K instantiation of its DFWDAYS regional symposium. Last held two yearsI ago, the Y2K edition of the DFWCUG regional event promises to eclipse the G success of its popular and well-attended predecessor. Here's a few good J reasons why you should consider spending the first weekend of June deep inB the heart of Texas together with your DECUS and Compaq colleagues.   On Tap In Texas   I DFWDAYS, A Compaq Update Weekend, will feature over 80 hours of technical L sessions on topics ranging from Alpha to Zero Latency Enterprise technology.H The agenda includes sessions on Linux, OpenVMS 7.3 Futures, Web-enablingJ OpenVMS Applications, Tru64 UNIX and TruCluster V5 Updates, Fib- rechannelD Technology, Windows 2000, Compaq Desktops, Alpha and ProLiant Server< Roadmaps, Storageworks, Compaq Hobbyist Programs, eCommerce,K Internetworking, and much, much more. There's also a special OpenVMS Galaxy D Lab Seminar that'll provide hands-on experience in getting Galactic.  H In addition to the regular sessions, three keynote addresses are on tap.H Kicking off the event on Friday morning June 2, OpenVMS VP Rich MarcelloJ will deliver an update on OpenVMS Strategies and Futures. SKC will provideB Friday evening pre-prandial entertainment by presenting the latestH instantiation of our Compaq's Strategic Directions talk, newly fortifiedI with lurid details on things WildFire, Alpha, and Himalaya-related. A new J version of SKC's Top Ten Fearless Prognostications is planned as well. AndK in his first DECUS presentation in a dog's age, Network-1 Senior Consultant J Dr. Bill Hancock on Saturday evening will discuss Internet Security beyondJ Firewalls. Given the rash of viral outbreaks and denial of service attacks@ that have characterized the first half of Y2K, the good doctor's& prescriptions should be timely indeed.  H Electro-Vlasic technology is "just so twentieth-century," accordingly noG phosphorescent pickles will cast their garish light on the session hall F during this year's DFWDAYS event. Instead, senior researchers from theK DFWCUG Applied Science Directorate will offer a first-ever demonstration of 1 a new breakthrough in directed energy technology.    Great Bang for the Buck   E The admission price for this three-day, event is a mere $195. The fee K includes admission to all sessions and keynotes, daily breakfasts, lunch on J Friday and Saturday lunch, and evening events. DFWDAYS will be held at theK DFW Airport Marriott Hotel, where rooms can be had at a special rate of $79 J per night. Do the math on the price/ performance: you can't beat this deal
 with a stick!   L If the bargain basement price and the promise of good old fashioned SouthernK hospitality isn't enough to convince you to line up, sign up, and enlist in K the DWFDAYS event; there's the chance to win Swell Prizes. Being offered as K a door prize is a Sony Model LDI-D50B Glasstron, a professional, 180K-pixel K head-mounted video display that simulates a 52-inch screen display situated @ seven feet away from the viewer. The lucky winner of this $1,800G technological tour de force will henceforth be able to "just say no" to  15-inch PC monitors.  J Registrations are running way ahead of expectations, so to ensure that theJ event managers aren't forced to "just say no" to your reservation, be sureL to visit http://dfwdays.dfwcug.org/ and register online as soon as possible.J Based on our past experience with DFWCUG get-togethers DFWDAYS is an event= you just don't want to miss. SKC sure hopes to see you there!    ------------------------------  % Date: Mon, 08 May 2000 15:27:13 -0700 + From: Jay T. McCanta <jmccanta@immunex.com> $ Subject: Console Manager Replacement8 Message-ID: <lkfehssstdkfi1a81rf5kiipqig68p9n8q@4ax.com>  D I am in charge of finding a replacement for Console Manager.  We hadD the Polycenter brand then the CA brand.  It works extremely well andD has no drawbacks, except that it runs on OpenVMS.   Ok, that's not aC drawback, but since there are only two of us here who can spell VMS F and there are many more eunichs - oops- UNIX folks, I'm chartered with8 finding a replacement that runs on the Solaris flavor.     What are folks out there using? E -===================================================================- 9 Jay McCanta              |  My opinions are barely my own ; System Administrator     |  My employer doesn't necessarily ' Immunex Corp.            |  share them. E -===================================================================-    ------------------------------  % Date: Mon, 08 May 2000 16:16:06 -0700 5 From: "Larry D Bohan, Jr" <LBohan@dbc.spam_less..com> ( Subject: Re: Console Manager Replacement2 Message-ID: <f0kXOfqqzayaESIbdfmttMKBwIv0@4ax.com>  2 On Mon, 08 May 2000 15:27:13 -0700, Jay T. McCanta <jmccanta@immunex.com> wrote:   E >I am in charge of finding a replacement for Console Manager.  We had E >the Polycenter brand then the CA brand.  It works extremely well and E >has no drawbacks, except that it runs on OpenVMS.   Ok, that's not a D >drawback, but since there are only two of us here who can spell VMSG >and there are many more eunichs - oops- UNIX folks, I'm chartered with 9 >finding a replacement that runs on the Solaris flavor.    >   >What are folks out there using?F >-===================================================================-: >Jay McCanta              |  My opinions are barely my own< >System Administrator     |  My employer doesn't necessarily( >Immunex Corp.            |  share them.F >-===================================================================-   Try:  &  http://www.ki.com/products/clim.shtml   ------------------------------  + Date: Mon, 08 May 2000 20:45:01 -0400 (EDT) " From: Dan Sugalski <dan@sidhe.org>( Subject: Re: Console Manager ReplacementH Message-ID: <Pine.LNX.4.10.10005082042500.15457-100000@tuatha.sidhe.org>  ) On Mon, 8 May 2000, Jay T. McCanta wrote:   F > I am in charge of finding a replacement for Console Manager.  We hadF > the Polycenter brand then the CA brand.  It works extremely well andF > has no drawbacks, except that it runs on OpenVMS.   Ok, that's not aE > drawback, but since there are only two of us here who can spell VMS H > and there are many more eunichs - oops- UNIX folks, I'm chartered with: > finding a replacement that runs on the Solaris flavor.   > ! > What are folks out there using?   G The last place I worked had scads of Solaris boxes. We used.... Console B Manager. :) For everything--VMS, Unix, HSx controllers (on the sunC machines too--Deq make better disk array controllers than sun), you , name it. (Well, not NT, but everything else)  G Not a whole lot of help, I know, but the Solaris folks actually came to  like Console Manager a lot.    					Dan   ------------------------------  % Date: Mon, 08 May 2000 15:00:31 -0700 + From: Jay T. McCanta <jmccanta@immunex.com> 2 Subject: Re: Get/set console enviornment variables8 Message-ID: <i4eehsov2hcvquq7ec98t1qr08ic82atqv@4ax.com>  F Thanks for the F$GETENV - that'll do.  I was looking to verify my DOSDE environment.  I wanted to be sure that DUMP_DEV was defined.  If not, 5 I wanted to set it.  As it turns out, it looks fine.     Thanks.     ? On 8 May 2000 14:20:36 GMT, hoffman@xdelta.zko.dec.nospam (Hoff  Hoffman) wrote:    > g >In article <hsl6hs0148r87tnourc6ujvh7vjsjkqc00@4ax.com>, Jay T. McCanta <jmccanta@immunex.com> writes: E >:Is there a way to get and/or set console environment variables from  >:OpenVMS -v7.1 and later? > 1 >  I will assume OpenVMS Alpha, rather obviously.  > G >  The f$getenv and sys$getenv calls are first documented in V7.2, but  0 >  the calls have been around for a long time.   >  >  LEXICALS 
 >    F$GETENV  >      Arguments >        itmlst ? >           The defined console environment variable names are:  >   F >           Auto_action, Boot_dev, Bootdef_dev, Booted_dev, Boot_file,L >           Booted_file, Boot_osflags, Booted_osflags, Boot_reset, Dump_dev,> >           Enable_audit, License, Char_set, Language, Tty_dev > G >  There is no equivilent documented "set" mechanism available, though  I >  there are a few kernel hacks around that map to the console callbacks  D >  and can be used to trigger the "set" operations -- the supported 1 >  approach is via the console prompt, of course.  > H >  One or two of the abovementioned hacks are used to retarget the boot D >  device -- what are you up to here?  (It can be difficult to offerF >  alternatives that might potentially be available when the question  >  is rather terse.) > O > --------------------------- pure personal opinion --------------------------- M >   Hoff (Stephen) Hoffman   OpenVMS Engineering   hoffman#xdelta.zko.dec.com   E -===================================================================- 9 Jay McCanta              |  My opinions are barely my own ; System Administrator     |  My employer doesn't necessarily ' Immunex Corp.            |  share them. E -===================================================================-    ------------------------------  % Date: Mon, 08 May 2000 14:26:15 -0400 0 From: JF Mezei <jfmezei.spamnot@vl.videotron.ca>" Subject: Re: Marketing opportunity/ Message-ID: <391706C7.671CB67F@vl.videotron.ca>   ( Andrew Harrison SUNUK Consultancy wrote:E > Many email clients let people execute attachments by clicking them,   K There is a BIG difference between calling the proper plug-in/application to @ display the attachement, and actually executing the attachement.  M Receiving a .VBX script should call whatever VBX editor exists to display the J code (and from there perhaps provide the opportunity to run it) instead of
 executing it.   N This is just as silly as Microsoft software thinking that a URL that ends with; .COM *must* be executed even if the mime type is text/html.    ------------------------------  % Date: Mon, 08 May 2000 20:18:20 -0400 / From: "Joe H. Gallagher" <dtrwiz@ix.netcom.com> " Subject: Re: Marketing opportunity) Message-ID: <39175948.4A22@ix.netcom.com>    Arne Vajhj wrote: >  > John Macallister wrote: K > > > Note that, for security reasons, MAIL displays escape sequences as $.  > > K > > Unless you're on a terminal which understands the escape sequences and   > > you can thenH > > end up in a real mess, possibly with an unusable terminal until you  > > reset it in some way% > > possibly by stopping the process.  > > I > > I guess this is an example, on a milder scale, of the sort of things   > > people have beenK > > criticising in MS software.   Automatic execution of escape sequences, A > > if embeddedt! > >  in mail  can cause problems.o >  > ???? >  > Why not try it ? > H > If you try it, then you will find that the original poster is correct.D > Escapes are displayed as $ *ALSO* on terminals that understand the > escaper sequences. > $ > Digital know/knew about security !"   ^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^  @ And how did this come about?  We'll the store I heard was that a= VMS system manager on the VMS development team bet a languagelC devoloper (Jim Starkey, the author of DATATRIEVE) that he (Starkey)T& couldn't break into to his VMS system.  F Because the system manager used a VT125 terminal (with ReGIS graphics)E Starkey mailed him a (ReGIS) macro which simulated a logout, login to-C capture the manager's password, and mailed it back to Starkey.  The  systemI was conpromised in only a few hours.  The system manager was not amused; sF the MAIL routine was changed to display <ESC> as $ in the next release of VMS.3   Joe H. Gallagher, Ph. D.& former SIG Chair and Newsletter Editor DTR/4GL SIG of DECUS   >  > Arne   ------------------------------  # Date: Mon, 08 May 2000 17:58:59 GMTI+ From: tom@automatedtech.com (Tom Hickerson) 8 Subject: Re: MOP Deamon for DECSERVER under MS-DOS/WINxx2 Message-ID: <3916ff3a.1087343@news.mindspring.com>   Hans,   * If you find a MOP that's built, please let' me know. I have a 3100 that needs to bed retired.   Thanks,-  
 Tom Hickerson- tom@automatedtech.com,   ------------------------------  " Date: Mon, 8 May 2000 22:36:39 GMT2 From: kaplow_r@eisner.decus.org.mars2 (Bob Kaplow) Subject: re:  OpenVMS marketing.+ Message-ID: <h4hkX7oXEMkN@eisner.decus.org>i  h In article <009E988B.D7631DE4.5@maxwell.ph.kcl.ac.uk>, Nigel Arnot <sysmgr@maxwell.ph.kcl.ac.uk> writes:M > Not a fair comparison. AMD's been technically brilliant for many years, but:K > has suffered from an inability to get the goodies shipping in sufficient r9 > volume quickly enough to command market-leader prices. s > P > Then a few months ago, AMD's latest goodies exceeded expectations at preciselyJ > the same time as Intel noticeably stumbled. Now its AMD calling at leastP > some of the tunes. (Moral: in a two-horse race horse #2 can't help but gain if > horse #1 stumbles).p  K Keep waiting. AMD is where Robert Palmer ended up after he ran Digital down ? the drain. Given his track record AMD can't last much longer...s   	Bob Kaplow	  E SPAM:	spamrecycle@ChooseYourmail.com	uce@ftc.gov	postmaster@127.0.0.1c   ------------------------------  " Date: Tue, 9 May 2000 02:41:21 GMT0 From: "Terry C. Shannon" <shannon@world.std.com> Subject: Re: OpenVMS marketing& Message-ID: <Fu9tL2.E2F@world.std.com>  ? "Bob Kaplow" <kaplow_r@eisner.decus.org.mars2> wrote in messagen% news:h4hkX7oXEMkN@eisner.decus.org...sD > In article <009E988B.D7631DE4.5@maxwell.ph.kcl.ac.uk>, Nigel Arnot% <sysmgr@maxwell.ph.kcl.ac.uk> writes:kK > > Not a fair comparison. AMD's been technically brilliant for many years,m but L > > has suffered from an inability to get the goodies shipping in sufficient: > > volume quickly enough to command market-leader prices. > >tH > > Then a few months ago, AMD's latest goodies exceeded expectations at	 preciselyrL > > the same time as Intel noticeably stumbled. Now its AMD calling at leastJ > > some of the tunes. (Moral: in a two-horse race horse #2 can't help but gain ifr > > horse #1 stumbles).  > H > Keep waiting. AMD is where Robert Palmer ended up after he ran Digital downA > the drain. Given his track record AMD can't last much longer...y  L Note that GQ Bob is just a member of the AMD BoD. Not the Dear Leader. Hence6 his ability to scrooch da pooch is somewhat limited...   ------------------------------   Date: 08 May 2000 20:45:14 GMT From: ka2doug@cs.com (KA2DOUG) Subject: Re: Samba for VMS> Message-ID: <20000508164514.02274.00001859@ng-fx1.news.cs.com>  I For those of us who can't subscribe to e-mail lists, and who are not Unix.O literate, and who have trouble reading the Unix formatted Man page documents incL VMS, can someone please point us to a place where we can find enlightenment?N The Text documentation that comes with assumes we can read the Man pages. TIA.    Doug Phillips   >bK >Most of the configuration items in smb.conf >are the same as for Samba foruJ >Unix.  Also, subscribe to the following list >mailto:samba-vms@samba.org. >e >Mike Ober.n >    ------------------------------  % Date: Mon, 08 May 2000 16:02:42 -0500 ) From: "John E. Malmberg" <wb8tyw@qsl.net>c Subject: Re: Samba for VMS7 Message-ID: <136f01bfb930$c23698f0$020a0a0a@xile.realm>   # KA2DOUG <ka2doug@cs.company> wrote:a  K > For those of us who can't subscribe to e-mail lists, and who are not UnixrD > literate, and who have trouble reading the Unix formatted Man page documents in? > VMS, can someone please point us to a place where we can find- enlightenment?K > The Text documentation that comes with assumes we can read the Man pages.n TIA.  J The SAMBA documentation is available on the World Wide Web in HTML format.  C See http://www.samba.org select your closest mirror, and follow the  documentation link on the page.u   -Johna wb8tyw@qsl.network   ------------------------------  $ Date: Mon, 8 May 2000 17:18:32 -0400' From: "Bill Todd" <billtodd@foo.mv.com>M& Subject: Re: the latest billybox virus( Message-ID: <8f7ard$ncr$1@pyrite.mv.net>  6 Tim Shoppa <shoppa@trailing-edge.com> wrote in message* news:39168D69.2F33351@trailing-edge.com...   ...y  B > I've been sending E-mail around the world for the past 15 years.. > That's more than a few product cycles, IMHO.  I And I've been doing so since (as best I can remember) the late '70s, when 7 DEC's corporate network became useful for that purpose.t  C Interacting with other people within a corporation, or even betweenoJ corporations, where FTP usually *is* a reasonable way to move files aroundB and someone else administers your typically multi-user systems, isL qualitatively different in terms of useful email features from a universe ofA home email users who have sufficiently fast (though intermittent) I connections to move files easily by that means, which is at most around amG decade old (did the number of home users exceed the number of corporate L users that long ago?  I thankfully cannot remember what typical modem speeds' were a decade ago:  1200 baud?  2400?).t   - bill   >iA > If you define "global internet environment" to mean "Windows 95-5 > and Windows 98", sure, it's all brand-spanking new.A >a > Tim.   ------------------------------  # Date: Mon, 08 May 2000 23:57:32 GMT,L From: winston@SSRL.SLAC.STANFORD.EDU ("Alan Winston - SSRL Admin Cmptg Mgr")& Subject: Re: the latest billybox virus8 Message-ID: <009E9C96.F730D094@SSRL04.SLAC.STANFORD.EDU>  J In article <8f5mvo$48e$1@pyrite.mv.net>, "Bill Todd" <billtodd@foo.mv.com> writes:n   >eL >While there are quality problems (temporary and permanent hangs that may beM >underlying network stack problems are two) with Outhouse, I don't think it'stG >entirely fair to blame it for the current successful worm attack.  ItsnM >security can be set to IE 'internet' level or IE 'restricted' level, both oftF >which have relatively finely-configurable security which, had it beenK >suitably set up by the corporate administrative personnel, could have, foriL >example, prohibited scripts from running in email or ensured that a warningM >dialog box would have to be traversed before running such a script (that mayeM >be the default setting, but I'm not going to bother restoring my IE defaultss >to find out right now).  L As I understand it, this is actually part of the problem.  You go to the IE M security configuration and you can choose which 'zone' (internal, restricted, K etc) can have which access.  Don't run unsigned applets from the internet, G# do run them from the intranet, etc.e  N However, the same zones are used for Outlook.  And Outlook can be reading mailI from the Exchange server inside your firewall, so can execute attachmentsvK without asking if you've set up IE to do that in your intranet - it doesn't,G consider where the email originated, only where you're reading it from.tK At least, that's what my local Exchange administrator admitted when I askede* about it - he could be wrong, I suppose.    H (Of course, having the security configuration live in IE, rather than beN separate for each program or having a security configuration application seemsN suspiciously like a scam to make you have to install and run IE in order to do   -- AlanY  O =============================================================================== 0  Alan Winston --- WINSTON@SSRL.SLAC.STANFORD.EDUM  Disclaimer: I speak only for myself, not SLAC or SSRL   Phone:  650/926-3056sM  Physical mail to: SSRL -- SLAC BIN 69, PO BOX 4349, STANFORD, CA  94309-0210hO ===============================================================================m   ------------------------------  $ Date: Mon, 8 May 2000 20:40:53 -0400' From: "Bill Todd" <billtodd@foo.mv.com>d& Subject: Re: the latest billybox virus( Message-ID: <8f7mmo$a3h$1@pyrite.mv.net>  L "Alan Winston - SSRL Admin Cmptg Mgr" <winston@SSRL.SLAC.STANFORD.EDU> wrote= in message news:009E9C96.F730D094@SSRL04.SLAC.STANFORD.EDU...mL > In article <8f5mvo$48e$1@pyrite.mv.net>, "Bill Todd" <billtodd@foo.mv.com>	 > writes:  >  > >1K > >While there are quality problems (temporary and permanent hangs that maye beJ > >underlying network stack problems are two) with Outhouse, I don't think it'sI > >entirely fair to blame it for the current successful worm attack.  ItseL > >security can be set to IE 'internet' level or IE 'restricted' level, both ofH > >which have relatively finely-configurable security which, had it beenI > >suitably set up by the corporate administrative personnel, could have,  forsF > >example, prohibited scripts from running in email or ensured that a warningfK > >dialog box would have to be traversed before running such a script (that= may=F > >be the default setting, but I'm not going to bother restoring my IE defaults > >to find out right now). >rJ > As I understand it, this is actually part of the problem.  You go to the IEC > security configuration and you can choose which 'zone' (internal,= restricted,-L > etc) can have which access.  Don't run unsigned applets from the internet,% > do run them from the intranet, etc.c > K > However, the same zones are used for Outlook.  And Outlook can be readingt mailK > from the Exchange server inside your firewall, so can execute attachmentsmE > without asking if you've set up IE to do that in your intranet - ito doesn'trI > consider where the email originated, only where you're reading it from.l  L That could be true (I'm no Outhouse set-up expert), but a literal reading ofI the Outhouse set-up screen suggests that it doesn't even try to take intotC account where the mail came from or is being read from (which seemsfL appropriate to me):  it just uses the security settings of the IE 'internet'2 or 'restricted sites' zone, whichever you specify.  H If true, this means that you might set up the IE 'restricted sites' zoneJ purely for the purpose of setting up a specific security configuration forL email (i.e., not enter any actual sites into the zone that IE would notice),I which would allow you to configure email somewhat more restrictively thano normal browsing settings.-   - bill  G > At least, that's what my local Exchange administrator admitted when Ia askeda* > about it - he could be wrong, I suppose. >aJ > (Of course, having the security configuration live in IE, rather than beJ > separate for each program or having a security configuration application seems J > suspiciously like a scam to make you have to install and run IE in order to do  > 	 > -- Alanm >  >lL ============================================================================ ===w2 >  Alan Winston --- WINSTON@SSRL.SLAC.STANFORD.EDUA >  Disclaimer: I speak only for myself, not SLAC or SSRL   Phone:  650/926-3056C >  Physical mail to: SSRL -- SLAC BIN 69, PO BOX 4349, STANFORD, CA 
 94309-0210 >sL ============================================================================ ===. >o   ------------------------------  % Date: Mon, 08 May 2000 17:40:11 -0700 ! From: Shane.F.Smith@healthnet.coma$ Subject: Unsolicited OpenVMS/NT book8 Message-ID: <882568DA.0003B16A.00@WHDOM99.HEALTHNET.COM>  . From: Shane F Smith@FHS on 05/08/2000 05:40 PM     To:   Info-Vax@mvb.saic.coml cc: % Subject:  Unsolicited OpenVMS/NT book-  O I just received my latest unexpected package from Rich Marcello: a free copy ofn: the "OpenVMS and Windows NT Integration For Dummies" book.  O Am I to assume he thinks I'm a dummy? I suppose I'd have to be to integrate VMSNJ and NT. Maybe he just wants me to buy more PCs and connect them to our VMSL systems - but why would he want us to spend more money with our PC supplier, Dell?t  , Somebody didn't think this one out too well.   ShaneT      H  #####   ---------------------------------------------------------------I #-O-O-# | Shane underbar S on pacbell dot net. Spam to abuse@127.0.0.1  |cH #  L  #  ---------------------------------------------------------------D  #===#   Don't blame HealthNet for anything I say. They're innocent.H   ###    OpenVMS: The operating system God runs the Earth simulation on.   ------------------------------  # Date: Tue, 09 May 2000 04:54:41 GMTm  From: james_e_becker@my-deja.com( Subject: Re: Unsolicited OpenVMS/NT book) Message-ID: <8f85mb$1k9$1@nnrp1.deja.com>   8 I guess it's all in how you (or your bosses) look at it.  8 The way I see it, the book is aimed at those who already: know they want to integrate VMS & NT, and those who didn't# even know integration was possible._  9 If NT is a fact of life in one's organization, and if thet6 bosses aren't so sure VMS is (still) such a good idea,8 then a book full of ways to integrate the two could be a8 boon to those who wish to show that VMS "plays well with< others." Material on integration, presented correctly, could0 show how VMS brings something good to the table.  8 Without this sort of material, the bosses might conclude7 that VMS isn't keeping up with the times, or the site's  needs.  9 I'm not crazy about those attitudes when they pop up, butt: I've seen them often enough. I still run across people who8 believe VMS can't do much of anything except run ancient4 applications the organization can't afford to ditch.7 They're shocked and incredulous when they hear that VMS=9 can do anything else. A book on VMS/NT integration is oner8 way to show them there's more to it than taking up space in the server room.   ; If on the other hand, the organization is a single-OS shop,=9 or if there are no requirements or potential benefits for-6 integrating different computing environments, then the/ book doesn't do you any good. In my experience,o; organizations that see no value in getting their systems to1 work together are rare.o  9 And about the "Dummies" title... The "Dummies" books havea3 become pretty common now. Most people I know accept 8 that the title implies an introductory book instead of a7 highly technical book for specialists only. Even if youd7 still choose to view it as an offensive title, considers9 that your boss might be the dummy on this subject instead : of you. Besides, there's no way Compaq could have tailored: the distribution list to remove those who already knew the9 material, and who didn't know anyone who'd want the book.M  
 Jim Becker  8 In article <882568DA.0003B16A.00@WHDOM99.HEALTHNET.COM>,$   Shane.F.Smith@healthnet.com wrote: >0 >:0 > From: Shane F Smith@FHS on 05/08/2000 05:40 PM >c > To:   Info-Vax@mvb.saic.comg > cc:u' > Subject:  Unsolicited OpenVMS/NT bookm >mD > I just received my latest unexpected package from Rich Marcello: a free copy of< > the "OpenVMS and Windows NT Integration For Dummies" book. >eC > Am I to assume he thinks I'm a dummy? I suppose I'd have to be to 
 integrate VMSnD > and NT. Maybe he just wants me to buy more PCs and connect them to our VMS D > systems - but why would he want us to spend more money with our PC	 supplier,h > Dell?e >p. > Somebody didn't think this one out too well. >  > Shanev >eH >  #####   ------------------------------------------------------------- --8 > #-O-O-# | Shane underbar S on pacbell dot net. Spam to abuse@127.0.0.1  |H > #  L  #  ------------------------------------------------------------- --F >  #===#   Don't blame HealthNet for anything I say. They're innocent.F >   ###    OpenVMS: The operating system God runs the Earth simulation on.  >^ >^    & Sent via Deja.com http://www.deja.com/ Before you buy.e   ------------------------------   Date: 8 May 2000 12:37:18 CDTe= From: wayne@tachysoft.xxx.302774.killspam.0140 (Wayne Sewell)r" Subject: Re: Upgrading system disk. Message-ID: <7CpmAQi$gmT8@tachxxsoftxxconsult>  i In article <8f6ivt$548$1@murrow.sp.trw.com>, "Dean Richard Benson" <dean.benson@remove_metrw.com> writes:m	 > Dale...g >  >> Typical standalone backup:'1 >> $ backup /image /verify /noalias <diskaddr>: -yF >>   <tapeaddr>:<savesetname> /rewind /label=<label> /block_size=32256 > 6 > Reading the backup documentation online, I noticed : > B >      The default block size for magnetic tape is 8192 bytes; the( >      default for disk is 32,256 bytes. > M > Can I ask why in the above example you specify a block size of 32256?  Does:6 > this increase the time needed to perform the backup? >   / Actually, it should *decrease* the time needed.N  G The default of 8192 is for prehistoric tape drives and really should befO changed.  Modern drives work better with larger values closer to the disk blocki size above.s      C > So far (with your addition), I have the following command ready :- > # > backup                          _ # >     /record                     _ # >     /list=dka100:[drb]disk2.lis _a# >     /media_format=compaction    _i# >     /rewind                     _8# >     /ignore=(label)             _N >     /log                 _ >     /verify                 _c >     /noalias   _# >     /image                      _s  >     dka200:                  _ >     mka500:disk2.bck > L > My next question (<smile>) is.... when the system is phsically reset (from
 > the switch)nK > at the front of the machine, it automatically boots into the system disk.  > During theK > operation that I am doing, I dont want this...I want to be able to get toe > the >>> promptM > to boot from the CD (to restore the system disk from tape).... any idea howi
 > to do this?e >   K The automatic action is typically controlled by a console value.  It variescN from machine to machine.  For instance, on the alphastation 200, you would do J "set auto_action halt" to prevent the machine from booting automatically. N Whatever machine you are using (I don't see a machine type in the above) would have an equivalent setting.V   -- eO ===============================================================================uM Wayne Sewell, Tachyon Software Consulting  (281)812-0738  wayne@tachysoft.xxxt: http://www.tachysoft.xxx/www/tachyon.html and wayne.html  K change .xxx to .com in addresses above, assuming you are not a spambot  :-)eO ===============================================================================yC Jake Blues: "Sell me your children!  How much for the little girl?"    ------------------------------   Date: 08 May 2000 15:49:30 EDT' From: Al Butler <al_butler@hotmail.com>  Subject: VMS pipes+ Message-ID: <39171985.3A7F0C52@hotmail.com>o  4 Does the standard "C" library on VMS support pipes ?   al   ------------------------------  % Date: Mon, 08 May 2000 16:01:44 -0400 " From: Dan Sugalski <dan@sidhe.org> Subject: Re: VMS pipes8 Message-ID: <4.3.1.0.20000508155704.00ea42e0@24.8.96.48>  * At 03:49 PM 5/8/00 -0400, Al Butler wrote:5 >Does the standard "C" library on VMS support pipes ?L  H Define "pipe" in this context. If you mean the equvalent of Unix domain J sockets (i.e. named pipes or FIFOs), then yes, and we call 'em mailboxes. > They're not quite the same thing, but reasonably close enough.  J If you mean the C pipe() call, then yep, we do. Check the Fine Manual for ? the details on it. (The Dec C manuals are available on-line at aJ http://www.openvms.digital.com/commercial/c/index_alpha.htm, or you could 1 read through the help for a terse usage overview)i   					Dan  L ----------------------------------------------------------------------------L Dan Sugalski                          General and VMS-specific perl training
 dan@sidhe.orgb>                                       Mail me for more details   ------------------------------  $ Date: Tue, 2 May 2000 20:27:59 +0800 From: "" <wanglimin@2911.net>4, Subject: Why  RZ28M can't be used on VAX3100* Message-ID: <8f35lf$5sf$1@info.bta.net.cn>  7 I've got a 2.1GB RZ28M. It works properly on a VAX4100. 6 I can boot VMS 5.4 and standalone backup stored on it.< But when i mounted it on a VAX3100 and try to boot from it ,K it tell me 'no such file', i booted  3100 from a RZ23(104M) attatched to it  .,? i can see infomation stored on RZ28M,i try to initialize RZ28M,h? system denied me with a message 'incompatible cluster factor' . G i checked device find out RZ28M have a clustersize of 4, But RZ23 is 3. + the RZ28M is also software write protected.w4 Can anybody tell me why RZ28M can't be used on 3100?) How can i transfer OS from RZ23 to RZ28M?h   ------------------------------  + Date: Mon, 08 May 2000 21:58:48 -0400 (EDT) " From: Dan Sugalski <dan@sidhe.org>0 Subject: Re: Why  RZ28M can't be used on VAX3100H Message-ID: <Pine.LNX.4.10.10005082158140.15627-100000@tuatha.sidhe.org>  ! On Tue, 2 May 2000, =CD=F5 wrote:   6 > Can anybody tell me why RZ28M can't be used on 3100?  A Because you're limited to boot devices < 1.something Gig on thoset, machines. Details are in the FAQ, I believe.   =09=09=09=09=09Dan   ------------------------------   End of INFO-VAX 2000.258 ************************