1 INFO-VAX	Mon, 15 May 2000	Volume 2000 : Issue 270       Contents: Any PAWZ users out there? 1 Arne, your email is bouncing again (server full?) 0 Arne, your mail is bouncing again (server full?)% Re: Is "The GNU on VMS Project" dead?  Re: MONITOR on VMS 7.2 Re: MONITOR on VMS 7.2# Re: String Descriptors, BASIC and C  To: Shane Smith.' VMS compared to other operating systems   F ----------------------------------------------------------------------  % Date: Sun, 14 May 2000 18:02:59 -0500 / From: Scott Vieth <svieth@ameritech.net.nospam> " Subject: Any PAWZ users out there?4 Message-ID: <391F30A3.33551681@ameritech.net.nospam>   Hi:   A Is anyone using PAWZ to monitor performance on their VMS systems? * I'm looking for any feedback, good or bad.   Thanks,    -Scott Vieth :^)   ------------------------------  % Date: Sun, 14 May 2000 14:13:05 -0400 ' From: "Bill Todd" <billtodd@foo.mv.com> : Subject: Arne, your email is bouncing again (server full?)( Message-ID: <8fmq77$489$1@pyrite.mv.net>  2 Arne, your email is bouncing again (server full?).   - bill   ------------------------------  % Date: Sun, 14 May 2000 14:06:19 -0400 ' From: "Bill Todd" <billtodd@foo.mv.com> 9 Subject: Arne, your mail is bouncing again (server full?) ( Message-ID: <8fmpqi$3o5$1@pyrite.mv.net>   ------------------------------   Date: 14 May 2000 21:44:08 GMT6 From: thompson@athenet.n_o_s_p_a_m.net (Paul Thompson). Subject: Re: Is "The GNU on VMS Project" dead?8 Message-ID: <391f1e28$1$380$39368dfe@news.twtelecom.net>  J The HP's 3000 series MPE/IX machines have a functioning posix environment.H It seems to be a boon to getting semi-normal utilities on that OS, whichK seems to lack even some basic functionality when viewed from a VMS or Unix   perspective.  J HP's solution to the false-assumptions-about-filenames problem has been toE have "HFS/posix and MPE" files coexist on the same machine, with the  K ugly caveat that many especially older MPE binaries can't see the HFS/posix M files unless they are specifically linked to an eight character MPE filename. - (8 characters; makes you appreciate VMS, eh?)    Paul  / In article <391EB3F0.FA054439@wcom.nospam.com>, 4 	Roger Tucker <roger.tucker@wcom.nospam.com> writes:W > I don't want to start a flame war by trying to decide if we are harming VMS by adding _ > the ability to build Unix packages without change, because in many ways I can agree with you. U > But reality is reality!  If MOZILLA, GNOME, GIMP, and even such software as FREECIV Z > was being developed on VMS, the Unix guys would be hammering down our door to get DCL org > MMS on their brand of Unix.  But that is just not the case.  For example see http://www.gtk.org/apps/  >  snip --     ------------------------------  # Date: Sun, 14 May 2000 19:16:54 GMT 2 From: "Shrini Arole" <Shrini@spamblocker.home.com> Subject: Re: MONITOR on VMS 7.2 8 Message-ID: <GYCT4.6563$45.74367@news1.rdc1.tn.home.com>  ! I'm sorry, perhaps I was unclear.   A When I attempt to issue a MONITOR command (like, lets say MONITOR J PROC/TOPCPU), I get the error message indicating that the image XTI$XTILIBL is not installed. My question then, is this: Why is this image not installed> if it should be? So, out of curiosity, I execute $ INSTALL ADDJ SYS$LIBRARY:XTI$XTILIB. Then, I again run the MONITOR PROC/TOPCPU command,L and it works.. So, now I wonder if installing this image is something I haveA to do in SYSTARTUP_VMS.COM, or if there is some action during VMS L Installation that I performed incorrectly that would cause this image to not get installed.   Thanks for your help.    Shrini Arole shrini@home.com     > "Roger Tucker" <roger.tucker@wcom.nospam.com> wrote in message) news:391EAA2B.655A1B42@wcom.nospam.com...  >  > Someone Somewhere wrote: > I > > I am getting the following message when trying to run MONITOR after a  new K > > install of VMS v7.2. If I manually install the image using INSTALL ADD,  I   > > can run the monitor utility. > E > Why are you installing MONITOR?  I read this several times before I  noticed G > the part about installing the image.  What image did you install with  INSTALL  > ADD,J > what parameters did you give the install?  For security reasons, a image > installed with4 > privileges cannot call other images not installed. >    ------------------------------  % Date: Sun, 14 May 2000 16:38:56 -0400 . From: Michael Austin <maustin@nc.prestige.net> Subject: Re: MONITOR on VMS 7.2 / Message-ID: <391F0EE0.581F7D21@nc.prestige.net>   , This is a multi-part message in MIME format.& --------------33023D7D6D3ECDDE92EEDC0A* Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit   3 before issuing the MONITOR command use the command:   ( $SET WATCH/CLASS=(dir,major,attrib) FILE  L This will tell you what files are being accessed.  Make sure you are using aP terminal or terminal emulator that can scroll backwards because this is going toJ dump a lot of information to your screen (or temporarily define sys$output out.tmp etc...)    To turn this off use $SET WATCH/CLASS=NONE FILE  0 Baciall "SET WATCH" is a set verify for the XQP.     Shrini Arole wrote:   # > I'm sorry, perhaps I was unclear.  > C > When I attempt to issue a MONITOR command (like, lets say MONITOR L > PROC/TOPCPU), I get the error message indicating that the image XTI$XTILIBN > is not installed. My question then, is this: Why is this image not installed@ > if it should be? So, out of curiosity, I execute $ INSTALL ADDL > SYS$LIBRARY:XTI$XTILIB. Then, I again run the MONITOR PROC/TOPCPU command,N > and it works.. So, now I wonder if installing this image is something I haveC > to do in SYSTARTUP_VMS.COM, or if there is some action during VMS N > Installation that I performed incorrectly that would cause this image to not > get installed. >  > Thanks for your help.  >  > Shrini Arole > shrini@home.com  > @ > "Roger Tucker" <roger.tucker@wcom.nospam.com> wrote in message+ > news:391EAA2B.655A1B42@wcom.nospam.com...  > >  > > Someone Somewhere wrote: > > K > > > I am getting the following message when trying to run MONITOR after a  > new M > > > install of VMS v7.2. If I manually install the image using INSTALL ADD,  > I " > > > can run the monitor utility. > > G > > Why are you installing MONITOR?  I read this several times before I 	 > noticed I > > the part about installing the image.  What image did you install with 	 > INSTALL  > > ADD,L > > what parameters did you give the install?  For security reasons, a image > > installed with6 > > privileges cannot call other images not installed. > >   & --------------33023D7D6D3ECDDE92EEDC0A- Content-Type: text/x-vcard; charset=us-ascii;   name="maustin.vcf"  Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit , Content-Description: Card for Michael Austin  Content-Disposition: attachment;  filename="maustin.vcf"    begin:vcard  n:Austin;Michael   tel;work:704-947-1089  x-mozilla-html:FALSE org:Michael Austin, Inc 
 adr:;;;;;; version:2.1 + email;internet:michaelaustininc@hotmail.com  title:President  x-mozilla-cpt:;0 fn:Michael E. Austin	 end:vcard   ( --------------33023D7D6D3ECDDE92EEDC0A--   ------------------------------  % Date: Sun, 14 May 2000 20:20:41 -0700 5 From: "cstranslations" <cstranslations@email.msn.com> , Subject: Re: String Descriptors, BASIC and C) Message-ID: <e5vvDyhv$GA.307@cpmsnbbsa04>   4 I'm not sure what big5 characters are, however . . .  G Mixed language programming where you are calling a C routine from BASIC F should not present any problems as long as you adhere to the procedureD calling standard. I'm going in the other direction for something I'mL developing right now [I need populate a few fields in an indexed file and am= feeling a bt lazy about working with an indexsd file from C].   ' With out seeing the actual source . . .   A Is it a static or dynamic string you are passing from BASIC to C?      declare string foobar                  or#     map (x) string foobar = 16    &   K If it's static changing the data length or data address [in the descriptor]  in the C function is no good.     K Calling malloc to allocate storage and then plugging the address and length G of that storage into the descriptor and passing it back to BASIC sounds K somewhat suspect. Off the top of my head I would figure you should be using @ str$get1_dx to allocate the storage and value the descriptor andI str$free1_dx to release the storage if you expect to be "able to play" as J the saying goes. Both of these functions are documented in the OpenVMS RTL" String Manipulation (STR$) Manual.   Joe     > Richard Banks <rbanks@arel.com.au.nospamming> wrote in message* news:391fee6b.5142196@news.magna.com.au...	 > Hi all,  > 0 > I need some help with a function I am writing. > D > I have a BASIC program that needs to perform EDIT$() routines on aF > string containing Big5 characters.  I have encountered problems whenD > using EDIT$ on Big5 since it strips some characters that should be
 > left alone.  > G > To solve this I wrote a C function (since the BASIC equivalent is far  > too slow). >  > Now in BASIC the syntax is >  > STR2 = EDIT$(STR1,OPTIONS) > G > So to start off with I wrote a function that took a string descriptor C > pointer and a long word and returned a string descriptor pointer.  > G > Problem was this function never worked.  After much scratching of the @ > head I decided to return a void and pass two string descriptor; > pointers (the original and the result) and the long word.  > & > typedef struct dsc$descriptior_d dd;B > void big5edit(dd *in_pntr, dd *out_pntr, long edit_options){...} > C > The function now works (without changing much of the internals at D > all).  I have no idea why I can't return a value, but that's life. > C > "What is this guys problem?" I hear you ask.  Well, when I have a G > previous value in the result string that is shorter than the string I : > wish to return I have to make sure I have enough memory. > G > Being a good little programmer, I free the string being pointed to by F > the string descriptor, malloc some new memory and set the descriptorG > pointing to the new location.  I also change the string length in the 
 > descriptor.  > B > Amazingly enough this works as well, until I try to reassign the& > result string in BASIC.  For example >  > STR1 = "Hello"( > STR2 = "Big5 Character In This String"A > CALL BIG5EDIT(STR2 BY DESC,STR1 BY DESC, EDIT_OPTIONS BY VALUE)  > PRINT STR1 > STR1 = "X" > H > The program prints the result string and then crashes on the last line > with the error. ( > %STR-F-FATINTERR, fatal internal error > 0 > So, has anyone done anything like this before? > Did you get it working? = > Can you return a string descriptor pointer to BASIC from C? 0 > What is BASIC doing when it reassigns strings?, > Do you have any ideas on things I can try? > H > Thanks for any help you can provide.  I'm starting to pull my hair out > (and there's not much left). > 
 > Richard.   ------------------------------  # Date: Sun, 14 May 2000 17:51:55 GMT * From: "Karol Gorzenski" <rakol@polbox.com> Subject: To: Shane Smith. 2 Message-ID: <%IBT4.62963$O4.1292942@news.tpnet.pl>    I lost your e-mail. write to me. Karol Gorzenski.   ------------------------------   Date: 15 May 2000 02:23:26 GMT# From: merefbast@aol.com (MerefBast) 0 Subject: VMS compared to other operating systems: Message-ID: <20000514222326.02262.00002734@ng-fx1.aol.com>  >    I need to ask for your help. A lot of you have used the webA site <http://www.operatingsystems.net>, a comparison of operating A systems as a resource. Now I need your help to bring the web site 1 back on line and make it available to the public.   >    I've been researching and collating information for the web; site at <http://www.operatingsystems.net> that compares and > contrasts operating systems. I've tried to keep it factual and? non-biased (but human nature dictates that I will fall short of  that goal).   >    Recently I was forced to move the web site from what turned? out to be an illegal copy of Windows NT to a legal UNIX server.   ?    Unfortunately, the person who is the registered owner of the = domain name <majik@majik.org> has been unable or unwilling to A change the DNS entry with NetworkSolutions, so, unfortunately the 9 web site has been inaccessible for more than three weeks.   A    I have the entire web site on a server and ready for access by A the public, but <majik@majik.org> is unwilling or too confused to = make the DNS change. If you want the web site to be available ? again, you need to contact <majik@majik.org> (secondary address @ is <stephen@gotoits.com>) and his partner <michaelm@gotoits.com>= and let them know that you are in favor of the web site being ; available (and maybe offer suggestions on how to make a DNS  change).  B    Some 65,400 of you have visited the web site in the past. 5,000@ of you have visited the web page summarizing the characteristics; of VMS. 12,000 of you have visited the chart comparing what > processors each OS runs on; some 9,000 of you have visited the< chart comparing the costs of each OS; some 6,000 of you have? visited the chart showing what file systems run on each OS; and @ some 3,500 of you have visited the chart of the release dates of> each OS (with the release dates of each version of most of the@ OSs). Some 8,700 of you have visited the web page discussing the@ physical layer of an operating system and some 6,600 of you have0 visited the web page discussing user interfaces.  <    Between 1,000 and 6,000 of you have visited the other web; pages disucssing the layers of an operating system: logical > layer, graphics engine, system services, command shell, system> utilities, internet services, and programs (in addition to the3 physical layer and user interface mentioned above).   <    Between 1,000 and 6,000 of you have visited the web pages< comparing APIs, connectivity, content creation, ease of use,; failure recovery, installation, integration of hardware and 6 software, maintenance and administration, reliability,A scaleability, security, sophistication, speed, and utilization of 
 resources.  =    Between 1,000 and 30,000 of you have visited the web pages ) detailing 32 different operating systems.   9    Additionally, I have received e-mails from many of you A indicating that the web site has been used in college courses and A by businesses making a decision on what equipment and software to  get for business systems.   >    If you still want to have access to this resource, then you@ will need to e-mail <majik@majik.org> and <michaelm@gotoits.com>@ and urge them to take care of the change of DNS (and maybe offerA suggestions in case they are confused on how to do it). Please be & polite in any e-mail you send. Thanks.   ------------------------------   End of INFO-VAX 2000.270 ************************                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                saic.com	beerb	Async75	async	stop	server=cp-radsrvr1	time=12:23:23	date=03/10/2000	task_id=27915	start_time=952719455	timezone=pst	service=ppp	protocol=ip	addr=10.11.242.8	disc-cause=1	disc-cause-ext=1045	pre-bytes-in=202	pre-bytes-out=204	pre-paks-in=8	pre-paks-out=9	bytes_in=1663	bytes_out=545098	paks_in=19	paks_out=1213	pre-session-time=9	elapsed_time=348	nas-rx-speed=26400	nas-tx-speed=46666CP-AS1.gw.saic.com	lyonsjo	Async45	6194094191	stop	server=cp-radsrvr1	time=12:23:57	date=03/10/2000	task_id=27899	start_time=952717264	timezone=pst	service=ppp	protocol=ip	addr=10.11.242.42	disc-cause=4	disc-cause-ext=1021	pre-bytes-in=180	pre-bytes-out=152	pre-paks-in=7	pre-paks-out=7	bytes_in=666	bytes_out=211241	paks_in=15	paks_out=343	pre-session-time=8	elapsed_time=2572	nas-rx-speed=24000	nas-tx-speed=26400s MCL-AS1.gw.saic.com	copelandpa	Async10	async	start	server=cp-radsrvr1	time=12:24:00	date=03/10/2000	task_id=55533	start_time=952719840	timezone=EST	service=ppp0MCL-AS1.gw.saic.com	garrisonw	Async8	async	s