1 INFO-VAX	Mon, 15 May 2000	Volume 2000 : Issue 271       Contents: Re: alpha problem  Re: big Fortran data file  re: big Fortran data file ( Compaq Bets Big on New Web Servers (WSJ), Re: Compaq Bets Big on New Web Servers (WSJ); RE: Compaq Majordomo Listserve for ECO notification, et al.  Re: DEFINE ? RE: DEFINE ? Re: DEFINE ? RE: DEFINE ?( RE: External authentication in a cluster) Re: HELP on calculating percentage in DCL ) Re: HELP on calculating percentage in DCL : How to connect to a MS SQL Server database from VMS system! How to make a loop in .com files? ! How to make a loop in .com files? % RE: How to make a loop in .com files? % Re: How to make a loop in .com files?  Re: HSG/Fibre training??? % Re: Is "The GNU on VMS Project" dead? % Re: Is "The GNU on VMS Project" dead? % Re: Is "The GNU on VMS Project" dead? % Re: Is "The GNU on VMS Project" dead? % Re: Is "The GNU on VMS Project" dead? % Re: Is "The GNU on VMS Project" dead? % Re: Is "The GNU on VMS Project" dead? 7 Re: LN15 printer setup: job remains in "starting" state  Re: MONITOR on VMS 7.2$ Multinet postscript  printing broken! problem with tape expiration date  Recreating Queues and Forms  Recreating Queues and Forms @ Strong Buy Recommendation - last one went up 125% since April 13 Re: System Boot Hangs. Re: the latest billybox virus  UCX to Multinet proxies % VMS and Ole for Process Control (OPC) ) Re: VMS and Ole for Process Control (OPC) ) Re: VMS and Ole for Process Control (OPC)  Re: VMS backup on PC vr320 monitor and vs3100 m38" Re: Wildfire and the future of VMS  F ----------------------------------------------------------------------  # Date: Mon, 15 May 2000 12:59:13 GMT " From: Art Rice <arice@ue.itug.org> Subject: Re: alpha problem8 Message-ID: <hvsvhskgo30brlf5ov378tbh1l8nhcn4nk@4ax.com>  D On Fri, 12 May 2000 18:37:55 -0700, Tom Crabtree <tccrab@sunset.net> wrote:   >Joe:  > L >After carefully checking your attachment for viruses, macro's or other suchN >nasty things, (against my own better judgment) I managed to open it, read it, >and have the following reply: >  >Huh?  >  >Tom  ' That's funny,  I had the same response.    >  >Joseph Antony wrote:  > # >> Please find attached the problem  >> >> joe     --  
 Art Rice   *# # Special Data Processing Corporation & --------------------------------------' All opinions expressed are mine and do  % not reflect the views of my employer.    ------------------------------    Date: 15 May 2000 10:29:05 +0100& From: Clive Page <cgp@nospam.le.ac.uk>" Subject: Re: big Fortran data file+ Message-ID: <8fog11$5vesl@harrier.le.ac.uk>   M In article <2t0HBaJfTxXU@eisner.decus.org>,  <briggs@eisner.decus.org> wrote:  > E >I'm puzzled.  We've got 1.5GB of data that is accessed sequentially.   M Maybe I misunderstood the requirement, but I thought Philip said he wanted to I use this array as a lookup table - this implies random access to it.  The B best way to do that is, in my opinion, to load it all into memory.   --   --   Clive Page, + Dept of Physics & Astronomy,                + University of Leicester.                       ------------------------------  % Date: Mon, 15 May 2000 11:39:42 +0000 / From: Nigel Arnot <sysmgr@maxwell.ph.kcl.ac.uk> " Subject: re: big Fortran data file6 Message-ID: <009EA1EA.B92D2467.8@maxwell.ph.kcl.ac.uk>   > R > It must be one complex calculation to run slower than reading the results off of > disk.   E You mean, something quite easy like an integration in two dimensions  H of a moderately well-behaved function without any awkward singularities?C A few thousand trips around the inner loops at ten per microsecond?   Q > At today's CPU speeds (if not true now, give it another year) CPU's are so much 
 > faster than  > any disk I/O.     H Garbage. I can think of functions that people would like to compute, but; which are out of reach not by a small factor but by factors C of billions or billions to the power N (>1). (And I'm not thinking  / cryptography here, just physics and chemistry).   8 > Maybe you just want to update your CPU or optimize the > calculations.  That R > sounds like a much simpler solution than writing very fast I/O code or mapping a > global section > and watching it page, etc.    M Money flows like water where you are, huh? In any case, even if that solution L works in this case it sure doesn't work in general (ie where the function isH more expensive to calculate, and/or where the degree of re-usability is  higher).  2 > If the data can be processed sequentially, using" > read-a-head on a sequential fileT > is about the fastest way to suck in data.  What about posting the calculations and > letting someone have > a stab at optimizing it.  H You have a really low opinion of others, don't you? I think that in the D absence of any evidence to the contrary, you should assume that the N poster is at least averagely competent in programming and numerical analysis. O In the absence of complete coding incompetence or a major change of algorithm,  H you're not going to squeeze out anything like a twelve-fold improvement.  C Incidentally, I did consider suggesting a coarser tabulation of the C problem function, coupled to a suitably sophisticated multivariate  @ interpolation algorithm. However, the simple approach of simply G precalculating a big table and reusing it seemed quite well matched to  J this problem and the available hardware, so I didn't. Disk space is cheap,L and on an Alphastation dedicated to a single problem,  there's no reason not: to max the IO (ie nobody else to get slugged when you do).  
 		Nigel Arnot - 		NRA@MAXWELL.PH.KCL.AC.UK                      7 		"In the beginning there was nothing, which exploded."    ------------------------------  # Date: Mon, 15 May 2000 13:58:07 GMT  From: jgessling@yahoo.com 1 Subject: Compaq Bets Big on New Web Servers (WSJ) ) Message-ID: <8fovp5$67t$1@nnrp1.deja.com>   G See page B8 of today's WSJ for this article.  Some high and low lights.   C - "This technology is not too late to get them on the growth path", ! says Richard Fichera, Giga group.   0 - company has orders for 200 of the new machines  E - Online brokerage house E*Trade Group Inc, will spend $15 million on H four of the new and existing Alpha computers to process customer trades.  E - Don Young, ... Paine Webber... "The game is already up, I wish they 7 had cut their losses and quit wasting their time."  :-(    Jim           & Sent via Deja.com http://www.deja.com/ Before you buy.    ------------------------------  % Date: Mon, 15 May 2000 13:11:43 -0400 ' From: "Bill Todd" <billtodd@foo.mv.com> 5 Subject: Re: Compaq Bets Big on New Web Servers (WSJ) ( Message-ID: <8fpavt$b11$1@pyrite.mv.net>  I The bad news is that either statement could be correct.  The good news is K that Compaq gets to choose which one it is (at least, one would *hope* that  that's the good news...).    - bill  J <jgessling@yahoo.com> wrote in message news:8fovp5$67t$1@nnrp1.deja.com... >  > I > See page B8 of today's WSJ for this article.  Some high and low lights.  > E > - "This technology is not too late to get them on the growth path", # > says Richard Fichera, Giga group.  > 2 > - company has orders for 200 of the new machines > G > - Online brokerage house E*Trade Group Inc, will spend $15 million on J > four of the new and existing Alpha computers to process customer trades. > G > - Don Young, ... Paine Webber... "The game is already up, I wish they 9 > had cut their losses and quit wasting their time."  :-(  >  > Jim  >  >  >  >  > ( > Sent via Deja.com http://www.deja.com/ > Before you buy.    ------------------------------  % Date: Mon, 15 May 2000 11:17:33 -0400   From: norm.raphael@jamesbury.comD Subject: RE: Compaq Majordomo Listserve for ECO notification, et al.4 Message-ID: <C22568E0.00532A02.00@jklh21.valmet.com>  / I got this a few minutes ago for within Compaq: G "...[M]ail from the Internet Gateway Team this morning...said that this C issue has been resolved.  There was a problem with the listserver."   
 We'll see. -Norm    ------------------------------  % Date: Mon, 15 May 2000 11:20:05 -0400   From: norm.raphael@jamesbury.com Subject: Re: DEFINE ? 4 Message-ID: <C22568E0.005365E7.00@jklh21.valmet.com>   I didn't know that! Thanks. F P.S.  Might that be not what was wanted?  Yes, it might in some cases.        / hshubs@mindspring.com on 05/12/2000 08:23:31 PM    To:   Info-VAX@mvb.saic.com 4 cc:    (bcc: Norm Raphael/Worcester/Neles-Jamesbury) Subject:  Re: DEFINE ?        5 In article <391C9EAE.1A4FCA3D@videotron.ca>, JF Mezei % <jfmezei.spamnot@videotron.ca> wrote:   I >"foo.tmp;0" will do a directory search and find the most recent file and  >access ;10   H That answers -that- question.  Sounds like a reason to use the notation. --; Howard S Shubs      hshubs@mindspring.com    hshubs@bix.com ? The Denim Adept     Which is better, Maryann or pickled Ginger? > SPAM: uce@ftc.gov   postmaster@[127.0.0.1]   abuse@[127.0.0.1]   ------------------------------  % Date: Mon, 15 May 2000 08:39:23 -0700 / From: Terry Marosites <TMarosites@unitedad.com>  Subject: RE: DEFINE ? M Message-ID: <1137A4A23A51D311B2D600105A1D5213019AEE10@seantexch.unitedad.com>   K   This all sounds very logical but why specify foo.tmp;0 to use the highest F version when just specifying foo.tmp will do the same.  I still see noK advantage of the;0  unless you are the type of person that will always wear E a belt and suspenders together. I do on the other hand thanks all for ' explaining the ;-0 now that I can use.   Terry      -----Original Message-----D From: norm.raphael@jamesbury.com [mailto:norm.raphael@jamesbury.com]" Sent: Monday, May 15, 2000 8:20 AM To: Info-VAX@Mvb.Saic.Com  Subject: Re: DEFINE ?      I didn't know that! Thanks. F P.S.  Might that be not what was wanted?  Yes, it might in some cases.        / hshubs@mindspring.com on 05/12/2000 08:23:31 PM    To:   Info-VAX@mvb.saic.com 4 cc:    (bcc: Norm Raphael/Worcester/Neles-Jamesbury) Subject:  Re: DEFINE ?        5 In article <391C9EAE.1A4FCA3D@videotron.ca>, JF Mezei % <jfmezei.spamnot@videotron.ca> wrote:   I >"foo.tmp;0" will do a directory search and find the most recent file and  >access ;10   H That answers -that- question.  Sounds like a reason to use the notation. --; Howard S Shubs      hshubs@mindspring.com    hshubs@bix.com ? The Denim Adept     Which is better, Maryann or pickled Ginger? > SPAM: uce@ftc.gov   postmaster@[127.0.0.1]   abuse@[127.0.0.1]          5 *****************************************************     5 ***************************************************** 4 Any views or opinions are solely those of the author) and do not necessarily represent those of  United News& Media. 5 ***************************************************** 4 The information transmitted is intended only for the1 person or entity to which it is addressed and may 3 contain confidential and/or privileged material. If 3 you are not the intended recipient of this message, . please do not read, copy, use or disclose this3 communication and notify the sender immediately. It 0 should be noted that any review, retransmission,2 dissemination or other use of, or taking action in- reliance upon, this information by persons or - entities other than the intended recipient is  prohibited. 5 *****************************************************  **   ------------------------------  % Date: Fri, 12 May 2000 15:01:22 -0500 , From: Howard S Shubs <hshubs@mindspring.com> Subject: Re: DEFINE ? > Message-ID: <hshubs-A670F1.15012212052000@news.mindspring.com>  N In article <1137A4A23A51D311B2D600105A1D5213019AEE07@seantexch.unitedad.com>, 0 Terry Marosites <TMarosites@unitedad.com> wrote:   >Hello all,  > M > I have been modifying some 3rd party DCL procedures for my company and keep ( >seeing the define statements like this  >$ define myfile foo.tmp;0M >I have tested and played with it. It acts like the ;0 is not there. Is there ; >any effects that is different from a define without the ;0 > >This 3rd part software if full of strange DCL code like this.  O That notation refers to the current version of the file.  What I'm not sure is  ) if it changes if a newer version appears.  --  ; Howard S Shubs      hshubs@mindspring.com    hshubs@bix.com ? The Denim Adept     Which is better, Maryann or pickled Ginger? > SPAM: uce@ftc.gov   postmaster@[127.0.0.1]   abuse@[127.0.0.1]   ------------------------------  % Date: Mon, 15 May 2000 17:35:58 +0100 - From: "POWERS, John" <John.POWERS@sema.co.uk>  Subject: RE: DEFINE ? ; Message-ID: <D30A62ABC710D211AEE100A0C9D615EE316388@REAES2>   D There is one practical situation where including a version number inF the definition of the log has an advantage - when you intend to delete. the file after you have finished with it. e.g.   $ create test.foo   *Exit*  $ define logical_name1 test.foo ! $ define logical_name2 test.foo;0  $ delete/log logical_name1? %DELETE-E-DELVER, explicit version number or wild card required  $ delete/log logical_name2< %DELETE-I-FILDEL, USRDISK:[JGP]TEST.FOO;1 deleted (0 blocks)  D If you include the version number, the file gets deleted. Of course @ there other are ways around this, but this way, the intention is) clearest to anybody reading the dcl code.    - John  > >   This all sounds very logical but why specify foo.tmp;0 to  > use the highest H > version when just specifying foo.tmp will do the same.  I still see no= > advantage of the;0  unless you are the type of person that   > will always wearG > a belt and suspenders together. I do on the other hand thanks all for ) > explaining the ;-0 now that I can use.  	 > Terry    >  > -----Original Message-----F > From: norm.raphael@jamesbury.com [mailto:norm.raphael@jamesbury.com]$ > Sent: Monday, May 15, 2000 8:20 AM > To: Info-VAX@Mvb.Saic.Com  > Subject: Re: DEFINE ?  >  >  > I didn't know that! Thanks. H > P.S.  Might that be not what was wanted?  Yes, it might in some cases. >  >  >  > 1 > hshubs@mindspring.com on 05/12/2000 08:23:31 PM  >  > To:   Info-VAX@mvb.saic.com 6 > cc:    (bcc: Norm Raphael/Worcester/Neles-Jamesbury) > Subject:  Re: DEFINE ? >  >  >  > 7 > In article <391C9EAE.1A4FCA3D@videotron.ca>, JF Mezei ' > <jfmezei.spamnot@videotron.ca> wrote:  > < > >"foo.tmp;0" will do a directory search and find the most  > recent file and 
 > >access ;10  > = > That answers -that- question.  Sounds like a reason to use   > the notation.     -- Cheers, John  F  - Note  This message represents my opinions and nothing else, not theI   opinion of SEMA, my family, or the cricket club - though my dog Meg did E   nod in agreement whilst I was typing. If you have any problems then D   please complain to her (or me, but not SEMA, my family or the CC).  K ___________________________________________________________________________ B This email is confidential and intended solely for the use of the H individual to whom it is addressed. Any views or opinions presented are E solely those of the author and do not necessarily represent those of   Sema Group. M If you are not the intended recipient, be advised that you have received this I email in error and that any use, dissemination, forwarding, printing, or  - copying of this email is strictly prohibited.   E If you have received this email in error please notify the Sema Group . Helpdesk by telephone on +44 (0) 121 627 5600.K ___________________________________________________________________________    ------------------------------    Date: 15 May 2000 11:21:25 +0200* From: eplan@kapsch.net (Peter LANGSTOEGER)1 Subject: RE: External authentication in a cluster * Message-ID: <391fc195$1@news.kapsch.co.at>   In article <CB874B506A79D1118FBC006097306B89031201E5@ohms.electric.ci.austin.tx.us>, "Stuart, Ed" <Ed.Stuart@austinenergy.com> writes:4 >Is OpenVMS able to use Kerberos for authentication?   See the OpenVMS Roadmap   D 	http://www.openvms.digital.com/openvms/roadmap/openvms_roadmaps.htm  ! Slide 20/OpenVMS Security Roadmap    --  < Peter "EPLAN" LANGSTOEGER           Tel.    +43 1 81111-2651; Network and OpenVMS system manager  Fax.    +43 1 81111-888 < FBFV/Information Services           E-mail  eplan@kapsch.netF <<< KAPSCH AG  Wagenseilgasse 1     PSImail PSI%(0232)281001141::EPLANH A-1121 VIENNA  AUSTRIA              "I'm not a pessimist, I'm a realist"N "VMS is today what Microsoft wants Windows NT V8.0 to be!" Compaq, 22-Sep-1998   ------------------------------  % Date: Mon, 15 May 2000 12:19:44 +0200r= From: Arne =?iso-8859-1?Q?Vajh=F8j?= <arne.vajhoej@gtech.com>,2 Subject: Re: HELP on calculating percentage in DCL( Message-ID: <391FCF3F.C017505@gtech.com>   Lars Jacobsen wrote:O > I have a small routine that examines the blocks free and max available blocks D > on a number of disk devices using F$GETDVI(device,"MAXBLOCKS") and > F$GETDVI(device,"FREEBLOCK"). R > Now I would like to perform some action (say send a mail) if the percentage free! > is lower than a certain number.r
 > Sort of: > ( > $ b_max = F$GETDVI(device,"MAXBLOCKS")) > $ b_free = F$GETDVI(device,"FREEBLOCK")h > $ pct = (b_free*100)/b_max& > $ IF pct .LT. 10 THEN GOTO send_mail > . > The calculation of PCT however doesn't work.3 > It looks like there's an integer/decimal problem.o  > Using F$INTEGER hasn't helped. >  > Any suggestions ?i   A good guess would be:    huge disks => integer overflow   Try:  % $ b_max = F$GETDVI(device,"MAXBLOCK") ( $ b_free = F$GETDVI(device,"FREEBLOCKS") $ if b_free .lt. 20000000y $ then $    pct = (b_free*100)/b_max  $ else $    pct = b_free/(b_max/100)  $ endifa   Arne   ------------------------------  % Date: Mon, 15 May 2000 11:55:01 +0200C: From: Karl Rohwedder <extern.karl.rohwedder@volkswagen.de>2 Subject: Re: HELP on calculating percentage in DCL- Message-ID: <391FC975.71487D82@volkswagen.de>d  , This is a multi-part message in MIME format.& --------------0EFDE1022A3A12FC9EDF462A* Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bitr     Hi Lars,  = the item codes for F$GETDVI are MAXBLOCK and FREEBLOCKS, when@ corrected the routineM performs o.k. for me.    Lars Jacobsen wrote: >  > Hello all. > O > I have a small routine that examines the blocks free and max available blocks D > on a number of disk devices using F$GETDVI(device,"MAXBLOCKS") and > F$GETDVI(device,"FREEBLOCK").lR > Now I would like to perform some action (say send a mail) if the percentage free! > is lower than a certain number.e
 > Sort of: > ( > $ b_max = F$GETDVI(device,"MAXBLOCKS")) > $ b_free = F$GETDVI(device,"FREEBLOCK")t > $ pct = (b_free*100)/b_max& > $ IF pct .LT. 10 THEN GOTO send_mail > . > The calculation of PCT however doesn't work.3 > It looks like there's an integer/decimal problem.y  > Using F$INTEGER hasn't helped. >  > Any suggestions ?> >  > -- > Kind Regards0 > ----------------------------------------------0 > Lars Jacobsen          Phone : +45 89 45 41 800 > Tele Danmark IT        Fax   : +45 89 45 61 02 > Takseringssystemer (BNTT)a- > S/8-173                email  : laja@tdk.dki > Gunnar Clausens Vej 28 > DK-8260 Viby J0 > ----------------------------------------------   -- e  - mit freundlichen Gruessen | with best regardsw   Karl Rohwedder               tC iT-Ingenieurteam     | Ellernbruch 11       | D-38112 Braunschweig cA Telefon: 0531/515521 | Telefax: 0531/515531 | Mobil: 0172/5434843 E  E-Mail: rohwedder@decus.decus.de           | iT-IngTeam@t-online.de :+          karl.rohwedder@it-ingenieurteam.del DATEX-P: 4505018005::ROHWEDDER& --------------0EFDE1022A3A12FC9EDF462A- Content-Type: text/x-vcard; charset=us-ascii;t!  name="extern.karl.rohwedder.vcf"  Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bitt, Content-Description: Card for Karl Rohwedder  Content-Disposition: attachment;%  filename="extern.karl.rohwedder.vcf"v   begin:vcard  n:Rohwedder;Karl tel;cell:+49 172 5434843 tel;fax:+49 531 515531 tel;home:+49 531 515521e tel;work:+49 5361 918724 x-mozilla-html:FALSE org:iT-Ingenieurteam version:2.1 2 email;internet:extern.karl.rohwedder@volkswagen.deG adr;quoted-printable:;;Ellernbruch 11=0D=0A;Braunschweig;;38112;Germanyc fn:Karl Rohweddern	 end:vcardl  ( --------------0EFDE1022A3A12FC9EDF462A--   ------------------------------  % Date: Mon, 15 May 2000 09:44:25 -0400 + From: "Doar, Mandy (LGE-SP)" <mdoar@lg.com>wC Subject: How to connect to a MS SQL Server database from VMS systemn= Message-ID: <C852A3CAEED9D111A91D0000F81ED95405E9E791@cs0007>   H We have a need to download some data from a VMS system to an applicationL using Microsoft's SQL Server.  Currently we are FTPing an ASCII file down toJ the NT server, and another procedure picks up the data and imports it into the SQL Server database.  G Is there anything out there that we can run on the VMS system that willpG allow a user on the VMS system to connect directly to the Microsoft SQLoG Server database?  We've got an Alpha GS60 running VMS 7.1-2  Our TCP/IPa+ software on the VMS system is Multinet 4.1Bi  
 Mandy Doar Lockwood Greeneo mdoar@lg.com   ------------------------------  + Date: Mon, 15 May 2000 11:03:14 -0400 (EDT)y4 From: Farzad Eskandari <eskandar@civil.sharif.ac.ir>* Subject: How to make a loop in .com files?5 Message-ID: <009EA1E5.A184C7A0.17@civil.sharif.ac.ir>e   Hi,aG I'm working under vax/vms 5.5 and I need to make a loop in a .com file  M and I want it to continue unless Enter is pressed.Can any one please help me?    ------------------------------  % Date: Mon, 15 May 2000 07:18:45 -0400u2 From: "Richard B. Gilbert" <DRAGON@compuserve.com>* Subject: How to make a loop in .com files?7 Message-ID: <200005150719_MC2-A503-F0B8@compuserve.com>   D         I don't believe that anyone can help you with the problem asB specified.  I can not think of any way in which pressing Enter can" interrupt a DCL command procedure.  :         If you are willing to use Control-Y,  see HELP ON.    ( Message text written by Farzad Eskandari >Hi,H I'm working under vax/vms 5.5 and I need to make a loop in a .com file =  J and I want it to continue unless Enter is pressed.Can any one please help=   me?<   ------------------------------  % Date: Mon, 15 May 2000 14:24:34 +0100.- From: "POWERS, John" <John.POWERS@sema.co.uk>i. Subject: RE: How to make a loop in .com files?; Message-ID: <D30A62ABC710D211AEE100A0C9D615EE316385@REAES2>    From Farzad Eskandari..a   > Hi, ? > I'm working under vax/vms 5.5 and I need to make a loop in a o > .com file @ > and I want it to continue unless Enter is pressed.Can any one  > please help me?u >   E Well, you can do this, but it's not really the VMS-style way of doingeD things. The normal keyboard way of interrupting a loop is to enter aE control-y. You can then trap that, if you wish with an ON command. AsoF an exercise to prove it can be done after a challenge from a colleagueG (and because I am a bit sad) I have some simple code to do what you arecG asking. But it's not the best way, as it involves spawning a subprocess$' that would not be needed for control-y.e  D With that proviso, the following 11 lines is an example of a command procedure that will do it.  H $ IF f$GETJ("","PRCNAM").EQS."P_LOOP_"+f$GETJ("","OWNER") THEN GOTO Loop $ ppid = f$GETJPI("","PID")sC $ SPAWN/NOLOG/NOWAIT/PROCESS="P_LOOP_''ppid'" @'f$ENV("PROCEDURE")'d6 $ READ /PROMPT="Press return to stop" SYS$COMMAND stop $ STOP P_LOOP_'ppid' $ EXITH $Loop:           !-----> Include in here the commands to loop over e.g..
 $ Example:8 $  WRITE SYS$OUTPUT "repeatedly displaying this message"
 $  WAIT 0:0:5e= $  GOTO Example  !-----< .. and these will loop until return.r      -- Cheers, John  F  - Note  This message represents my opinions and nothing else, not theI   opinion of SEMA, my family, or the cricket club - though my dog Meg didaE   nod in agreement whilst I was typing. If you have any problems theneD   please complain to her (or me, but not SEMA, my family or the CC).    -  K ___________________________________________________________________________mB This email is confidential and intended solely for the use of the H individual to whom it is addressed. Any views or opinions presented are E solely those of the author and do not necessarily represent those of n Sema Group. M If you are not the intended recipient, be advised that you have received this I email in error and that any use, dissemination, forwarding, printing, or -- copying of this email is strictly prohibited.r  E If you have received this email in error please notify the Sema Group6. Helpdesk by telephone on +44 (0) 121 627 5600.K ___________________________________________________________________________n   ------------------------------  % Date: Mon, 15 May 2000 15:29:14 +0100o# From: Kevin B Black <kbb@ceh.ac.uk>c. Subject: Re: How to make a loop in .com files?) Message-ID: <s92017f2.048@wpo.nerc.ac.uk>C  ) >Message text written by Farzad Eskandariz >s >Hi,B >I'm working under vax/vms 5.5 and I need to make a loop in a .com file> >and I want it to continue unless Enter is pressed.Can any one please	 >help me?i >aB Two methods of solving the problem, as specified, would be to testA for Return (Enter) in the loop referred to. Two DCL fragments arerB appended showing a way of doing this, each can be placed in a fileC and run by itself to see the effect. You may need to customise them1? to fit your needs. If you want to "bail out" in the same way ast	 Control+C @ or Control+Y do, which is how some have read your question, then it is probably not possible.   regards KevinBB.   DCL Fragment 1   $!* $ write sys$output "Press return to stop!"	 $looptop:n $ wait 00:00:00.01; $ read sys$command/time_out=0/error=looptop/prompt="." junkn $ write sys$output "Thanks!"  @ DCL Fragment 2 : No output from the READ command, slightly dogdy about  what happens if Ctrl+Y/C isi: pressed between the assign/deassign SYS$OUTPUT statements.   $!* $ write sys$output "Press return to stop!"	 $looptop:a $ wait 00:00:00.01 $! define/nolog sys$output nla: ; $ read sys$command/time_out=0/error=continue/prompt="" junk  $! deas sys$output $ goto done 
 $continue: $! deas sys$output $ goto looptop $done: $ write sys$output "Thanks!"   [End of message]   ------------------------------  # Date: Fri, 12 May 2000 22:30:50 GMTe2 From: kaplow_r@eisner.decus.org.mars2 (Bob Kaplow)" Subject: Re: HSG/Fibre training???+ Message-ID: <QCNqpa78MQDv@eisner.decus.org>t  _ In article <8fh1g6$3i7$1@nereid.worldonline.nl>, "Bart Zorn" <B.Zorn@TrueBit.nospam.nl> writes:  > Hi,s > N > We have a cluster of 2 ES40's and 1 DS20 with a fully dual redundant FC disk > configuration. > M > I have no prior experience with HSJ or HSZ configurations, but I managed to,L > get things running using the supplied docs and using SWCC which makes it a' > lot easier to see what you are doing.* > L > The most important information is found in "Guidelines for OpenVMS cluster$ > configurations", chapters 6 and 7. >  > A few points of interest:  > B > - HSG80 controllers must use MULTIBUS failover, not TRANSPARANT.  K We're going to be running Tru64Unix on this ES40/HSG80 setup, and expect tosK grow to a "true" cluster over time. For now it's just a single node. We mayoG have VMS/HSG eventually. We wanted to go multibus, but 4.0{F|G} doesn'tdD support multibus, only transparent. IIRC we have to wait for 5.1 for Multibus support.t   	Bob Kaplow	  E SPAM:	spamrecycle@ChooseYourmail.com	uce@ftc.gov	postmaster@127.0.0.1o   ------------------------------   Date: 15 May 2000 13:53:11 GMT, From: bill@cs.scranton.edu (Bill Gunshannon). Subject: Re: Is "The GNU on VMS Project" dead?+ Message-ID: <8fovg7$b37$1@info.cs.uofs.edu>*  p In article <009EA0A1.5FFCAF88@SendSpamHere.ORG>, system@SendSpamHere.ORG (Brian Schenkenberger, VAXman-) writes: |> s
 |> The *REAL*>L |> problem is the "blinders on" bias placed on these packages by the eunuchsK |> zealots that author them.  If Stallman and his crowd really wanted to beu$ |> on platforms other than eunuchs,   B Talk about "blinders on"!! I can't speak for Stallman, but, trust > me, UNIX users could care less about all that free, opensource? software being ported  to VMS.  The majority of UNIX users haveI0 never seen a VMS system and probably never will.  @ If the VMS world doesn't want UNIX software, then don't port it.= But, bitching because somebody didn't change the way they do e? things to please you is really silly.  I, for on, would like too@ see more usable (and cross-platform compatable) applications for> the VMS machines I have to maintain.  Their good machines, but= no one uses them because they lack the practical tools to do aA anything real in our environment.  And if the freeware COBOL ever ? gets off the ground, I expect they will tell me to turn off all, the VMS machines completely.  @ Maybe its time for a reality check.  It is not UNIX market share that is declining.     bill   -- 0J Bill Gunshannon          |  de-moc-ra-cy (di mok' ra see) n.  Three wolvesD bill@cs.scranton.edu     |  and a sheep voting on what's for dinner. University of Scranton   |A Scranton, Pennsylvania   |         #include <std.disclaimer.h>       ------------------------------  % Date: Mon, 15 May 2000 10:46:50 -0400;* From: Joshua Cope <Joshua.Cope@Compaq.com>. Subject: Re: Is "The GNU on VMS Project" dead?* Message-ID: <39200DDA.E2729AE4@Compaq.com>   Tim Llewellyn wrote: > G >  hmmm, I see some sense in Roger's and Dave's comments, but I wonder,sJ > if such apps would run like a dog because they hadn't been ported to useH > VMS's specific performance enhancing features like gblsections, exotic' > linker options, installed images etc.y  M Perhaps, but with GNV or similar tools, at least getting UNIX apps built and oN running on VMS is much easier. At that point, you can figure out which pieces " need to be tweaked (or rewritten).  < ------------------------------------------------------------7 The above opinions and information are not necessarily  % those of Compaq Computer Corporation. < ------------------------------------------------------------   ------------------------------  % Date: Mon, 15 May 2000 16:13:17 +0100 - From: Tim Llewellyn <tim.llewellyn@bbc.co.uk>o. Subject: Re: Is "The GNU on VMS Project" dead?) Message-ID: <3920140D.17BA81BE@bbc.co.uk>    Joshua Cope wrote:   > Tim Llewellyn wrote: > > I > >  hmmm, I see some sense in Roger's and Dave's comments, but I wonder,eL > > if such apps would run like a dog because they hadn't been ported to useJ > > VMS's specific performance enhancing features like gblsections, exotic) > > linker options, installed images etc.o >dN > Perhaps, but with GNV or similar tools, at least getting UNIX apps built andO > running on VMS is much easier. At that point, you can figure out which pieces-$ > need to be tweaked (or rewritten). >e  C Point taken, once you have it running you can then tweak it for VMSaC (and hopefully merge the mods back into the main code stream so yout don't have to do it next tim).  C However, maybe VMS needs its own native apps, not ported unix apps, $ as a differentiator if nothing else.   >_> > ------------------------------------------------------------8 > The above opinions and information are not necessarily' > those of Compaq Computer Corporation. > > ------------------------------------------------------------   --6 Tim Llewellyn, OpenVMS Infrastructure, Remarcs Project0 MedAS at the BBC, Whiteladies Road, Bristol, UK.A Email tim.llewellyn@bbc.co.uk. Home tim.llewellyn@cableinet.co.uki  A I speak for myself only and my views in no way represent those ofh MedAS or the BBC.h   ------------------------------  % Date: Mon, 15 May 2000 16:17:13 +0100 - From: Tim Llewellyn <tim.llewellyn@bbc.co.uk>_. Subject: Re: Is "The GNU on VMS Project" dead?) Message-ID: <392014F9.EFF70288@bbc.co.uk>-   Roger Tucker wrote:2  E >  As far as the other operations go, VMS and Alpha can be one of theRF > fastest most reliable machines out there, so I don't see performanceD > as a major issue anymore than it would be with any other software.  G Hmmm, I do see where u are coming from Roger, but surely some unix headiI will just start using the "well, it runs 70% slower under VMS on the sameME h/w as under linux" so why deply VMS arguement,  (70% is a guess). IfoG you see the big picture you can see its lies, but that is blatantly notA goodF enough for the current IT jungle, as we wouldn't be running so much M$@ crap everywhere if the manageres listened at all to the techies.   --6 Tim Llewellyn, OpenVMS Infrastructure, Remarcs Project0 MedAS at the BBC, Whiteladies Road, Bristol, UK.A Email tim.llewellyn@bbc.co.uk. Home tim.llewellyn@cableinet.co.uk   A I speak for myself only and my views in no way represent those of8 MedAS or the BBC.-   ------------------------------    Date: 15 May 2000 18:14:42 +0100T From: pmoreau@cenaath.cena.dgac.fr (Patrick MOREAU, CENA Athis, Tel: 01.69.57.64.40). Subject: Re: Is "The GNU on VMS Project" dead?! Message-ID: <xl6o0nBtlUn9@gaelic>   ( In article <391FB913.33AF26B1@mci.com>, + Roger Tucker <roger.tucker@mci.com> writes:n> > Performance of theses packages usually run just fine on VMS.@ > Sometimes they might need a little tuning but most of the time > they are fine.  J I agree. I've ported lots of Unix code to VMS and the performance problemsN were rare (and I begun on a VAXstation 4000-60 ...). Some bad written code canM be cpu eaters (polling or other horrible cpu loops) but generally there is nolL problems. File access is probably slower on VMS than on Unix, but you have aJ reliable file system and you can tweek RMS parameters (block count, extendK size) to give a boost. And on Alpha, its better ... (you can compress audior* files in real time even on old Alphas ...)   Patrick= -- TO ===============================================================================1O pmoreau@cena.dgac.fr  (CENA)     ______      ___   _           (Patrick MOREAU)-4 moreau_p@decus.fr (DECUS)       / /   /     / /|  /|J CENA/Athis-Mons FRANCE         / /___/     / / | / |   __   __   __   __  N BP 205                        / /         / /  |/  |  |  | |__| |__  |__| |  |N 94542 ORLY AEROGARE CEDEX    / /   ::    / /       |  |__| | \  |__  |  | |__|N http://www.ath.cena.fr/~pmoreau/            http://www.multimania.com/pmoreau/O ===============================================================================F   ------------------------------  + Date: Mon, 15 May 2000 16:18:37 +0000 (   ) 3 From: Christopher Smith <chriss@Mufasa.pubserv.com>e. Subject: Re: Is "The GNU on VMS Project" dead?I Message-ID: <Pine.LNX.4.05.10005151616570.6387-100000@Mufasa.pubserv.com>a  ) On Mon, 15 May 2000, Tim Llewellyn wrote:   I > Hmmm, I do see where u are coming from Roger, but surely some unix head K > will just start using the "well, it runs 70% slower under VMS on the same,G > h/w as under linux" so why deply VMS arguement,  (70% is a guess). IfeI > you see the big picture you can see its lies, but that is blatantly not  > goodH > enough for the current IT jungle, as we wouldn't be running so much M$B > crap everywhere if the manageres listened at all to the techies.  * I feel a strong need to respond to this...  G Don't you think that by the same token, if they _wanted_ to deploy VMS, & they'd ignore the 70% slower argument?  6 It always comes back around to that advertising thing.   Regards,   Chrisk  O ===============================================================================-@ "My two cents"			(http://rootworks.com/twocentsworth.cgi?128562)= Christopher Smith(chriss@pubserv.com)			Prgramer^W Programmer| Prime Synergy of Champaign, IL.r% -------------------------------------lI "Where a calculator on the ENIAC is equipped with 18,000 vacuum tubes and H weighs 30 tons, computers in the future may have only 1,000 vacuum tubes; and weigh only 1.5 tons." -- Popular Mechanics, March 1949 1O -------------------------------------------------------------------------------.   ------------------------------  % Date: Mon, 15 May 2000 13:22:41 -0400:' From: "Bill Todd" <billtodd@foo.mv.com>t. Subject: Re: Is "The GNU on VMS Project" dead?( Message-ID: <8fpbkg$bap$1@pyrite.mv.net>  8 Tim Llewellyn <tim.llewellyn@bbc.co.uk> wrote in message# news:3920140D.17BA81BE@bbc.co.uk...1   ...-  E > Point taken, once you have it running you can then tweak it for VMStE > (and hopefully merge the mods back into the main code stream so you=  > don't have to do it next tim). >nE > However, maybe VMS needs its own native apps, not ported unix apps,-& > as a differentiator if nothing else.  G I suspect the point of this discussion is that VMS shows little sign ofgK getting such native apps, whereas with a reasonably limited effort it might G be able to pick up a bunch of ported apps that would, even if less than J optimal, be decidedly useful to a lot of people (though quite possibly not! to very many of the people here).r   - bill   >I > >e@ > > ------------------------------------------------------------: > > The above opinions and information are not necessarily) > > those of Compaq Computer Corporation.s@ > > ------------------------------------------------------------ >t > --8 > Tim Llewellyn, OpenVMS Infrastructure, Remarcs Project2 > MedAS at the BBC, Whiteladies Road, Bristol, UK.C > Email tim.llewellyn@bbc.co.uk. Home tim.llewellyn@cableinet.co.ukm > C > I speak for myself only and my views in no way represent those of0 > MedAS or the BBC.d >k >a   ------------------------------  % Date: Tue, 09 May 2000 11:30:08 +0200?: From: Karl Rohwedder <extern.karl.rohwedder@volkswagen.de>@ Subject: Re: LN15 printer setup: job remains in "starting" state- Message-ID: <3917DAA0.B6847E36@volkswagen.de>E  , This is a multi-part message in MIME format.& --------------97E4DFA296B248F52DB514D4* Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bitv  > We encountered the same problem, it was solved by updating the firmware (I do notC know the version). The other settings (PERSONALITY...) were equallyp
 important.   Horst Drechsel wrote:  >  >    Hi all, > L >    we recently purchased an LN15N-A (the one with a 10-Base-2 BNC ethernetL > interface) and are trying to connect it to our local network consisting ofF > an OpenVMS cluster with various AXP Alphastations under VMS 7.1-1H1;N > DCPS version is 1.7. However, so far we haven't been able to get it running. > M >    The printer was configured under TCP/IP, reacts on ping, and we are able1J > to telnet to the RP600 environment and use RP600 commands. We use telnetB > port 3001 as recommended in the DCPS release notes for the LN15. > O >    The DCPS V1.7 release notes say that for LN15 one should set the parameter  > H >               PERSONALITY  PS       in the printer console CONFIG menuJ >               NPAP MODE    OFF      in the printer console PARALLEL menuE >               PORT 1       ENABLED  in the Ethernet card managementy >               BITRONICSm > J >    The first two are set accordingly, but we cannot locate the last one.@ > In the console mode PARALLEL menu, bidirectional mode is "ON". > K >    The print queue is initialized within our DCPS$STARTUP.COM as follows:I > M > ===========================================================================t > $!' > $ @sys$startup:dcps$execution_queue -tE >       cps15 -                           ! P1 - Execution queue name R >       a400::"ip_rawtcp/192.44.90.51:3001" - ! P2 - Serial Device name or PrintS$N >       dcps_lib -                        ! P3 - Logical name for library(ies)I >       ""-                               ! P4 - Default queue parameters/B >       "/SEPARATE=(NOFLAG,NOBURST,NOTRAILER)/SCHED=SIZE/FORM=PS -U >                    /DEFAULT=(FORM=PS,NOFEED)" -     ! P5 - Default queue qualifiersx >       ""-                               ! P6 - Communication speed(serial device      "/SPOOLED=(CPS15,SYS$SYSDEVICE)" - ! P7 - Device characteristics> >       ""                                ! P8 - Verify on/off > $! > $! > $ on error then continue+ > $ @sys$startup:dcps$generic_queue -     ! C >         LPS_142F8C_ps -                 ! P1 - Generic queue name H >         cps15 -                         ! P2 - Execution queue name(s)I >         "data=post"-                    ! P3 - Default queue parameters_I >           "/prot=(S:M,O:D,G:R,W:SDMR)"- ! p4 - Default queue qualifierse> >           ""                            ! P5 - Verify on/off > $! > $ on error then continue+ > $ @sys$startup:dcps$generic_queue -     !sK >         LPS_142F8C_TEXT -                       ! P1 - Generic queue nameeH >         cps15 -                         ! P2 - Execution queue name(s)I >         "data=ansi"-                    ! P3 - Default queue parameterstI >           "/prot=(S:M,O:D,G:R,W:SDMR)"- ! p4 - Default queue qualifiersu> >           ""                            ! P5 - Verify on/off > $!M > ===========================================================================- > L >    The queue names LPS_142f8c_ps and ..._TEXT contain the last 6 digits ofM > the ethernet hardware address of our LN15, as suggested in the installationf	 > manual.e > E >    Now, if we send some job to /queue=cps15 , we get the following:r > M > =========================================================================== / > A400# print/notify/queue=cps15 vms$phases.data > : > Job VMS$PHASES (queue CPS15, entry 346) started on CPS15 > ) > %DCPS-W-NOT_READY, Printer is not readyhF > -DCPS-I-JOB_ID, for job VMS$PHASES (queue CPS15, entry 346) on CPS15M > ===========================================================================u >  > and show/queue cps15 gives:t > M > ===========================================================================Y > A400# show queue cps15 /fullD > Printer queue CPS15, busy, on A400::"ip_rawtcp/192.44.90.51:3001", > mounted form PS K >   /BASE_PRIORITY=4 /DEFAULT=(FORM=PS) /NOENABLE_GENERIC /LIBRARY=DCPS_LIB.O >   Lowercase /OWNER=[SYSTEM] /PROCESSOR=DCPS$SMB /PROTECTION=(S:M,O:D,G:R,W:S)p > 6 >   Entry  Jobname         Username     Blocks  Status6 >   -----  -------         --------     ------  ------8 >     346  VMS$PHASES      SYSTEM            1  StartingE >          Submitted  8-MAY-2000 18:50:08.87 /NOFLAG /FORM=PS /NOTIFYa >          /PRIORITY=100P >          File: _A400$DKA0:[VMS$COMMON.SYS$STARTUP]VMS$PHASES.DAT;1 (printing)) >              /NOFLAGM > ===========================================================================y > H >    but nothing comes out of the printer. The job remains in "Starting" > state. > G >    We have also tried to set up the printer on a LAT port, as another M > DEClaser 5100 is working here properly this way, but with the same negativetM > results. By the way, we have another network printer, an HP1600CM, which istQ > set up exactly like we tried for the LN15, using ip_rawtcp with port 9100 under  > DCPS, which is working fine. > K >    Has anybody an idea where to look? What is the preferred way to set upbG > the printer: under LAT or TCPIP? Any suggestions or comments would beS > highly appreciated.  >  >    Thanks a lot in advance,g. >                               Horst Drechsel >  > --O >  ****************************************************************************n >   Horst DrechselN >   Dr. Remeis Observatory                 drechsel@sternwarte.uni-erlangen.deN >   Astronomical Institute                             Phone: +49-951-95222-15N >   University Erlangen-Nuernberg                        Fax: +49-951-95222-22, >   Sternwartstr.7, D-96049 Bamberg, GermanyO >  ****************************************************************************f   -- t  - mit freundlichen Gruessen | with best regardsl   Karl Rohwedder               pC iT-Ingenieurteam     | Ellernbruch 11       | D-38112 Braunschweig yA Telefon: 0531/515521 | Telefax: 0531/515531 | Mobil: 0172/5434843uE  E-Mail: rohwedder@decus.decus.de           | iT-IngTeam@t-online.de @+          karl.rohwedder@it-ingenieurteam.deF DATEX-P: 4505018005::ROHWEDDER& --------------97E4DFA296B248F52DB514D4- Content-Type: text/x-vcard; charset=us-ascii;l!  name="extern.karl.rohwedder.vcf"  Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit , Content-Description: Card for Karl Rohwedder  Content-Disposition: attachment;%  filename="extern.karl.rohwedder.vcf"a   begin:vcard  n:Rohwedder;Karl tel;cell:+49 172 5434843 tel;fax:+49 531 515531 tel;home:+49 531 515521a tel;work:+49 5361 918724 x-mozilla-html:FALSE org:iT-Ingenieurteam version:2.1I2 email;internet:extern.karl.rohwedder@volkswagen.deG adr;quoted-printable:;;Ellernbruch 11=0D=0A;Braunschweig;;38112;Germanyb fn:Karl Rohweddere	 end:vcard   ( --------------97E4DFA296B248F52DB514D4--   ------------------------------  % Date: Sun, 14 May 2000 07:29:15 -0600p1 From: Roger Tucker <roger.tucker@wcom.nospam.com>n Subject: Re: MONITOR on VMS 7.2d/ Message-ID: <391EAA2B.655A1B42@wcom.nospam.com>k   Someone Somewhere wrote:  K > I am getting the following message when trying to run MONITOR after a newtK > install of VMS v7.2. If I manually install the image using INSTALL ADD, Il > can run the monitor utility.  K Why are you installing MONITOR?  I read this several times before I noticed0M the part about installing the image.  What image did you install with INSTALLi ADD,H what parameters did you give the install?  For security reasons, a image installed with2 privileges cannot call other images not installed.   ------------------------------  % Date: Mon, 15 May 2000 19:15:38 +10001 From: "ME" <me@here.com>- Subject: Multinet postscript  printing brokenI. Message-ID: <8fof3q$klg$1@news.latrobe.edu.au>  ; Has anyone else had problems with Multinet TCP/IP printing?m  D All of a sudden, certain postscript jobs are failing with postscript errors - savelevel-.  E I have performed a number of tests and believe it is definitely not am2 postscript error but some Multinet-VMS interaction  I VMS Multinet queue - STREAM to port 9100 on printer - produces postscripto errorlK VMS Multinet queue  - LPD queue to existing printer on NT system - producesi postscript errorL UNIX queue - lpr to port 9100 on printer - prints fine (same file - ftp'd to	 UNIX box)-L UNIX queue - LPD to existing printer on NT system - prints fine (same file - ftp'd to UNIX box)  H However, the above file is postscript V3.0.  We can successfully print a* V1.0 postscript file (generated via PS)!!!H This behaviour was noticed after a system crash, but I do not know if it# caused or was caused by that event.   J Is it possible that a corrupted queue manager database could cause this? I6 ask this as it also seems that one node of the clusterI re-initialised this as we have lost many form definitions and batch queue  jobs...p  L It's been a while since I have done any VMS sys admin (you can probably tell- this by the phrase "queue manager database"),o@ but our Admin is away so I would appreciate any advice on offer!   Cheers!t   Vicki Jordan La Trobe Universityi Bundoora Vic Australia 3083n V.Jordan@latrobe.edu.au.   ------------------------------  # Date: Mon, 15 May 2000 16:48:14 GMTr* From: j-sivier@uiuc.edu (Jonathan Sivier )* Subject: problem with tape expiration date7 Message-ID: <iTVT4.16954$nb2.342791@vixen.cso.uiuc.edu>t  G    We had a hard disk crash a while back on our VAXStation II and aftersK replacing the disk and restoring the OS and data files, I seem to be unable.K to do backups anymore.  When I try to do a backup to a tape I get the error  message;  I  Volume 1 on MUA0: was not mounted because it's expiration date is in thei1 future.  Specify option (QUIT, NEW or OVERWRITE).-  M    This message comes up on the back screen, which I gather is the operator'seK console.  There seems to be no way to respond to this message.  I know that.J there is something that I need to do so that these messages will appear inI the DECTerm window where I could potetially respond to it, but apparently-J that got trashed during the restore of the OS as well and I can't rememberJ what it is that I need to do to correct this.  I've looked in the FAQ, but( nothing seems to fit and/or ring-a-bell.  K    Why am I getting this error message?  I don't think it is a Y2K problem, I since the date is correct and the tape backup was working fine before thepL crash.  I get the same error with an old tape that I am overwriting and withG a brand new tape that I have just initialized.  What do I need to do tohK stop messages from appearing on the rear screen and/or how can I respond tom them?       Thanks for any assistance.a   Jonathan  8 --------------------------------------------------------8 |  Jonathan Sivier      |  Flight Simulation Lab       |8 |  j-sivier@uiuc.edu    |  Beckman Institute           |8 |  Work: 217/244-1923   |  405 N. Mathews              |8 |  Home: 217/359-8225   |  Urbana, IL  61801           |8 --------------------------------------------------------8 |  Home page URL: http://www.uiuc.edu/ph/www/j-sivier  |8 --------------------------------------------------------   ------------------------------  % Date: Mon, 15 May 2000 19:10:06 +1000-4 From: Huw Davies <Huw.Davies@kerberos.davies.net.au>$ Subject: Recreating Queues and FormsC Message-ID: <4.3.1.2.20000515190815.00e23260@popeye.latrobe.edu.au>c  I I seem to recall that there was a command procedure floating around that @L processed the contents of QMAN$MASTER.DAT to create a command procedure (or L two) that contained the appropriate DCL commands to recreate the queues and I forms. A quick web search and referral to my own archives haven't turned tB anything up. Has anyone got a pointer to such a command procedure?  @ Huw Davies           | e-mail: Huw.Davies@kerberos.davies.net.au?                       | "If God had wanted soccer played in ther=                       | air, the sky would be painted green" o   ------------------------------  % Date: Mon, 15 May 2000 07:07:34 -0400r2 From: "Richard B. Gilbert" <DRAGON@compuserve.com>$ Subject: Recreating Queues and Forms7 Message-ID: <200005150708_MC2-A503-F002@compuserve.com>   J         There is a procedure to create forms definitions and one to creat= e=H characteristics definitions.  Both are Copyright by Digital (Compaq) andJ are available from DSNlink.  I've never seen one to create the INITIALIZE=  J /QUEUE commands but it should not be too difficult and you'll learn a lot=  % about F$GETQUI while you're doing it.     " Message text written by Huw DaviesJ >I seem to recall that there was a command procedure floating around that=  =  J processed the contents of QMAN$MASTER.DAT to create a command procedure (= or  J two) that contained the appropriate DCL commands to recreate the queues a= nd  J forms. A quick web search and referral to my own archives haven't turned =  B anything up. Has anyone got a pointer to such a command procedure? <e   ------------------------------  % Date: Mon, 15 May 2000 23:04:38 +09001 From: kimlee@marijuana.md I Subject: Strong Buy Recommendation - last one went up 125% since April 13e$ Message-ID: <243342436@MVB.SAIC.COM>   PROFESSIONAL STOCK GROUPSs =20h5 MULTI GROUP MOMENTUM PLAY FOR WEDNESDAY, MAY 17, 2000/ =20u  F After One of our  Most Successful Momentum Plays, (231% TOTAL GAIN ),= =20i  E We Have a 300% to 500% Investment Opportunity For Our Multiple Groupsu Participation for May 17  F Please Release This Stock Play to Your Groups Members, Subscribers, F= ree Trials  on# Tuesday, May 16 AFTER Market Close.    The Stock Play For May 17 is:'  " CMEC, (otc-bb) Commercial Concepts  F CMEC closed Friday, May 12 at .65 For a Gain of 5% and Increasing Vol= ume!  F Hiring of One of the Top Investment Relations Firms on Wall Street-FO= CUS=F PARTNERS LLC with their website at:  http://www.focuspartners.com  is=  a surewF guarantee that CMEC share price will continue to climb past the Analy=
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Staff and management may hold, buy or sell some of the = featured stocks in+ our newsletters at any time without notice.   @ For a 30 day free trial to stockprowler1 newsletter, email us atF stockprowlers1@excite.co.uk  Subscriptions are $259.00 per month and = we offer a 10%" discount for full year membership.  F If you are receiving this newsletter in error and our not one of our = subscribers or on thenF mailing list of any of our 34 associate newsletter clubs around the w= orld, please email us F at stockprowlers1@excite.co.uk and we will have you removed from any = future emails. =20   =20    =20T   =20t   ------------------------------  % Date: Mon, 15 May 2000 13:22:18 +0100o# From: nic <no-spam@no.spam.allowed>m Subject: Re: System Boot Hangs.q/ Message-ID: <391FFA0A.7DE330B4@no.spam.allowed>s  " Samson, Hugh (PiC at Alcoa) wrote: >  > Folks, > M > Thanks for the replies, but I'm still making no further progress re bootingu > the 4200.. > I > 1). The stabackit kit was built in the normal manner, NO files had been:& > deleted that should have been there.K > 2). I did actually use "USE DEFAULT", not "SET DEFAULT" at the chevrons -- > sorry, a typo...B > 3). Restore command was "Backup/image/log $1$MIA5:DIA0_IMAGE.BCK > $1$DIA1112:"./K > 4). The restore finished with a succesfull message, both with and without  > restoring the pagefile.=( > 5). The 6610 was not a cluster member.K > 6). The pagefile on the 6610 was located on the system disk, so it is notd > waiting for disk mounts.  @ I had the same problem the other day with a 4200. (VAX 4000-200)  H Used 7.1 SAB, restored system, tried USE DEFAULT SET/STARTUP but similar6 conditions just a hang. THis was a version 6.2 system.  G I didn't have the time to hack around too long, so I did a network boot E out of the main cluster, and it came up fine. I tried an ANAL/DISK on(E the disk that wouldn't boot, and checked that SYSBOOT and the correctm? LOA images are there, it all looks fine, so I'm puzzled myself.q  E I have previously used this backup to restore a system around 2 years E ago successfully, and it did boot then. I even tried setting dates in_& the past (now that's straw clutching!)  F I also corrected the PHYSICALPAGES parameter. The conclusion I came toD it wasn't parameter related (unless it was a duff default value), itH wasn't date and time related, the disk structure was fine, no errors and( all files were where they were expected.  F The only things were it didn't have the 'latest' set of 6.2 patches onH it (only those as in early 1998) and the other disk drive was a 'gonner' (twin RA70's KDA50).    E As I said, I didn't have the time to hack around any further with it,tF but it appeared to hang before it got to STARTUP.COM, which I think isG while it is loading system images (I even tried setting LOAD_SYS_IMAGES1 to 0)g  E Not so much as a solution as a "me too". The common thing between our=H situations is you started with a 6610, I started with a 3400, our targetC systems were both 4200's. Mine was an 'early model' 4200 (later had / integrated DSSI controllers with RF ISE bays).     Regards_   --   Nic Clews CSC Computer Sciencesy1 email : n c l e w s   a t   c s c   d o t   c o m=   ------------------------------  % Date: Mon, 15 May 2000 10:51:38 +0200s= From: Arne =?iso-8859-1?Q?Vajh=F8j?= <arne.vajhoej@gtech.com>=& Subject: Re: the latest billybox virus) Message-ID: <391FBA9A.EAAEC172@gtech.com>,   d.webb@mdx.ac.uk wrote:./ > Rightslist should also not be world readable.I > 1 > On my systems it's protection is (RWED,RWED,R,)_  ) No, but since SYS$IDTOASC will return allR, identifiers (=> all usernames), then that is not increasing security !U   Arne   ------------------------------  % Date: Mon, 15 May 2000 16:04:48 +0100 4 From: Adrian Birkett <abirkett.@unnecessary.csc.com>  Subject: UCX to Multinet proxies3 Message-ID: <3920120F.505D4BE8@unnecessary.csc.com>/   All,  F I have a routine that can use either decnet task-to-task or ucx rsh toF run a remote script. Unfortunately, this relies on there being a proxyG on the recieving end. I have been asked to set this up where the targetoG node uses Multinet rather than ucx - how do I set up the required proxyaD access under Multinet (and keep it relatively secure if possible). IH have no experience of Multinet whatsoever but I have thumbed through theH administrator reference manual and can't seem to find anything relevant., Any assistance would be greatly appreciated.   UCX  4.2 eco 2 Multinet 4.1 rev B   Thanks,S   Ade   3 ===== My own opinion, not that of my employer =====    ------------------------------  % Date: Mon, 15 May 2000 08:52:57 -0400I From: jlahman@LTVSteel.com. Subject: VMS and Ole for Process Control (OPC)8 Message-ID: <852568E0.0046D7CA.00@notesnta.LTVSteel.com>   Hi:r  K Over the past few months, we've invited various automation vendors (such as*N Allen Bradley, Fischer, PI) to LTV Steel so that they can present their latestN (and greatest) packages that will save programming efforts.  To the last, theyM all incorporate Ole for Process Control (OPC) in their latest products.  (For # further info, pls see www.opc.com).2  N These OPC products are available for WNT/W2K and UNIX/Linux platforms, none ofN these are available for VMS (even though these automation vendors have non-OPCO products on VMS).  When asked why they do not have their OPC products available|N for VMS, they respond with something like "the marketplace is moving away from VMS" or "VMS is dead".  M According to Compaq's VMS Futures presentation, manufacturing is a key market@C for VMS.  However, what we are seeing is that to be a player in theRM manufacturing market, a product or operating system must be able to talk OPC.h   So, I have a few questions:.  +    What is the future of VMS vis a vis OPC?:M    With Alpha/VMS v7.2-1, how would it accept an OPC connection and messages?c  N BTW, Steve Stebulis from Compaq made a presentation to us last Friday (May 12)H on the future of VMS.  However, he could not answer the above questions.   ------------------------------  % Date: Mon, 15 May 2000 09:56:08 -0400s From: jlahman@LTVSteel.com2 Subject: Re: VMS and Ole for Process Control (OPC)8 Message-ID: <852568E0.004DED48.00@notesnta.LTVSteel.com>  < > Is this what I have to look forward to on any upgrades :-)  > > We have not yet run into these issues, that I am aware.  OurI > architecture group may have more info, as we, like yourselves, and manyj? in the steel industry, rely on VMS for true non stop computing..  G > We have a high use of allen bradley in primary (interchange s/w), nots6 > sure what is happening in out finishing fascilities.  G With the new allen bradley products - control logix, interchange is notuM necessary (what I understand).   However, an OPC driver is necessary to map atL tag from the a/b level 1 device into an oracle table.  With this technology,K there is no need to write a level 1 driver and global common to receive andr% store the ethernet messages from a/b.i  N What I've seen is that this technology is not available for VMS - and that hasH me concerned.  As I stated in my previous post, since Compaq/Digital hasM targeted manufacturing as a key market, what is their position vis a vis OPC?sM For to be a player in the manufacturing market, OPC is a must - it is the newmO standard.  My fear is that Compaq/Digital does not have a stance regarding OPC.- Hopefully, I'm wrong.p   ------------------------------  # Date: Mon, 15 May 2000 17:04:06 GMTt+ From: tom@automatedtech.com (Tom Hickerson)M2 Subject: Re: VMS and Ole for Process Control (OPC)4 Message-ID: <39212d6d.244642407@news.mindspring.com>  C I'm interested in your post since we use Interchange running on VMS  also.   B  But what's  www.opc.com supposed to point to ?   Oglethorpe Power Corporation.  
 Tom Hickerson  tom@automatedtech.coms   ------------------------------  % Date: Mon, 15 May 2000 10:54:16 +0200f= From: Arne =?iso-8859-1?Q?Vajh=F8j?= <arne.vajhoej@gtech.com>s Subject: Re: VMS backup on PC!) Message-ID: <391FBB38.E8B4DCEE@gtech.com>   C >     Does anyone know of s/w that can read files from a VMS Backup  >     tape (DAT) into Windoze.  : A C-program to read VMS BACKUP save-sets on Unix exist and. I would assume, that it could be ported to NT.   But why bother ?  9 Get someone with a VMS system to read the tape and creates a new tape with a TAR/ZIP !n   Arne   ------------------------------  # Date: Mon, 15 May 2000 14:04:21 GMTa From: chriwe@alfa.itea.ntnu.no% Subject: vr320 monitor and vs3100 m38e) Message-ID: <8fp04p$6qp$1@nnrp1.deja.com>i   Hi all  F I have just got a new display monitor for my old vax station 3100 m38.> It's a vr320-ca and I have an SPX colour graphics accelerator.F The problem is that I get 3 representations of the same picture on the@ screen side by side, overlapping if they are wide enough. My old/ monochrome monitor (vr150) has no such problem. , Is this a malfunction with my vr320 monitor?1 Anyone else successfully used this type of setup?a   Any reponse is welcome...    Thanxy	 Christianc    & Sent via Deja.com http://www.deja.com/ Before you buy.:   ------------------------------  # Date: Fri, 12 May 2000 21:55:58 GMTy2 From: kaplow_r@eisner.decus.org.mars2 (Bob Kaplow)+ Subject: Re: Wildfire and the future of VMS + Message-ID: <$9BsoORYgoLD@eisner.decus.org>b  g In article <391B7F9A.1ED764E5@earthlink.net>, "David J. Dachtera" <djesys.nospam@earthlink.net> writes:a > Clair Grant wrote: >> T >> jlahman@LTVSteel.com wrote: >> >Q >> > I just received an invitation to attend the Wildfire announcement next week. Q >> > However, as I read the articles linked to the invitation, I became concerned U >> > since these articles only talk about how Wildfire will enhance Compaq's positionrN >> > in the Unix market.  There was no mention of VMS (even though VMS runs on >> > wildfire).  >> >L >> > So, what is the future of VMS on wildfire?  When I attend this wildfire? >> > announcement next week, will I only hear about Tru64 Unix?. >> >C >> > Again, I am greatly disappointed in the way Compaq treats VMS.  >> rD >> I have seen most of the official announcement material and VMS is >> prominently mentioned.- >   > To quote my 5th grade teacher: >  > "Be specific, cite examples".i >  > David J. Dachteraj  H David, I'm sure you know he can't do that, at least not until after 10am next Tuesday morning.   I BTW, will you be at the Chicago announcement seminar? If so, I'll see you-  and any other CARTS folks there.   	Bob Kaplow	  E SPAM:	spamrecycle@ChooseYourmail.com	uce@ftc.gov	postmaster@127.0.0.1-   ------------------------------   End of INFO-VAX 2000.271 ************************