1 INFO-VAX	Sun, 21 May 2000	Volume 2000 : Issue 283       Contents:. Re: address munging revisited: the web version. Re: address munging revisited: the web version Re: big Fortran data file  Re: CPU Temperature from DCL
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 For Sale 3190 ) Re: HELP on calculating percentage in DCL  Re: Initializing all drives  Re: Initializing all drives 2 Re: Limiting Decnet Phase IV access with VMS 7.1-2D Re: LOOK AND FEEL 10 YEARS YOUNGER - INCREASE SEXUAL POTENCY (13854) Looking for PW API information Re: MicroVAX, MS and RD53 disks  SKC's OpenVMS Viewpoint 5 Re: Software for Grownups (Was: Re: "Modern" OpenVMS)  Re: Swapped out process  Re: Swapped out process  Re: Swapped out process  Swapped out process  Re: Swapped out process  Re: VMS on the desktop?  Re: Voluntary Milking System Re: Voluntary Milking System, Re: What cobol statements affect bytlm quota Re: Wildfire Announcement = Re: Wildfire Announcement: Michael Capellas, can you say VMS? = Re: Wildfire Announcement: Michael Capellas, can you say VMS?  Re: Win a DS10 Re: Win a DS10  F ----------------------------------------------------------------------  % Date: Sun, 21 May 2000 11:36:26 +0200 ! From: Dan <dan.sugalski@sture.ch> 7 Subject: Re: address munging revisited: the web version + Message-ID: <VA.0000004b.36fdb1f3@sture.ch>   L In article <4.3.1.0.20000517094516.01f76ab0@24.8.96.48>, Dan Sugalski wrote:$ > From: Dan Sugalski <dan@sidhe.org> > Newsgroups: comp.os.vms 9 > Subject: Re: address munging revisited: the web version ' > Date: Wed, 17 May 2000 09:47:50 -0400  > 2 > At 09:25 PM 5/16/00 -0400, David A Froble wrote: > >"John E. Malmberg" wrote:Q > > > I suspect that the SPAM-BOTs feel that the "-" in your name is an anti-spam Q > > > device and so reject your address.  I also suspect that many of them do not + > > > feel that my E-Mail address is valid.  > > L > >Interesting observation.  Maybe it's so.  When we applied for our domain  > >name,N > >we were surprised to find so many versions of tsoft, which is the company'sH > >name.  An ISP in San Francisco had WWW.TSOFT.COM and there were otherQ > >variations.  The '-inc' was one of the options left open to us.  Sometimes you ? > >inadvertantly fall into some luck, if your guess is correct.  > N > Weird. I've been using this e-mail address for five or seven years, haven't H > ever munched it for news posts, and have it splashed over lots of web L > pages. I see maybe two pieces of spam a week directed at me, out of great  > gobs of mail each week.  > 3 > This sounds like it's not particularly typical...  > C I see a theme here. Your's is a .org, and John Malmberg's is a .net   I If I were a spambot writer, I'd probably avoid those, thinking they were  ) "official" and could get me into trouble.   R I've just started getting a bit of spam using this address (3 this week), which I Q assume comes from scanning this newsgroup, but nothing like as much as I used to  P get from posting from work. Don't know why, but maybe because I'm using just my  first name before the @.  L And here we try, purely for experimentational purposes, to use add you as a R posting address in my domain. I assume you won't want the spam forwarding when it 
 arrives :) :)  ___ 
 Paul Sture Switzerland    ------------------------------  % Date: Sun, 21 May 2000 11:36:27 +0200   From: Paul Sture <paul@sture.ch>7 Subject: Re: address munging revisited: the web version + Message-ID: <VA.0000004c.36fdb547@sture.ch>   > In article <3922B44D.9823A385@bbc.co.uk>, Tim Llewellyn wrote:   <snip for brevity> > F > I get junk snail mail by the binload, or so it seems. This annoys meE > more than as there is a greater physical effort required to bin it.  > N I shall never forget a few returns to the UK after lengthy absences. I had to ' put my shoulder to the door to open it.   K And when I moved recently, I started getting loads of stuff in my mailbox.  M However, this being Switzerland, sticking a notice on the box "Keine Reklame  , einwerfen" (throw no ads in) actually works. ___ 
 Paul Sture Switzerland    ------------------------------  % Date: Sun, 21 May 2000 11:36:01 +0200   From: Paul Sture <paul@sture.ch>" Subject: Re: big Fortran data file+ Message-ID: <VA.00000047.36fd4f48@sture.ch>   D In article <8fquam$s3u$1@info.service.rug.nl>, Phillip Helbig wrote:, > From: helbig@astro.rug.nl (Phillip Helbig)+ > Newsgroups: comp.lang.fortran,comp.os.vms $ > Subject: Re: big Fortran data file  > Date: 16 May 2000 07:45:26 GMT > > > In article <39208048.3AD2E6E3@tsoft-inc.com>, David A Froble  > <davef@tsoft-inc.com> writes:  > I > >> The straightforward way would be a sequential file.  However, if the J > >> program which uses the lookup table doesn't start at the beginning, aM > >> direct-access file might be better (the record number being some hash of J > >> the indices).  However, since the length of the record depends on theJ > >> value of the second-to-last index, I guess this will waste disk spaceM > >> since all the records have to be the same length in a direct-access file K > >> (unless I'm missing something; I've rarely used direct-access files in  > >> the past).  > > Q > >While most of this discussion is far from what I'm used to, now you've asked a I > >question I can help with.  An RMS Indexed Variable file will do what I # > >understand you are asking for.    > E > As others have pointed out as well, VMS has long had the solution,  H > albeit non-standard Fortran.  I can't imagine that my need here is so B > specialised; shouldn't F2K+N have indexed variable-length files? > R It's a long time since I wrote in Fortran, and I cannot remember what bits of RMS K were supported. However, we (not me personally) solved any deficiencies by  N writing wrapper subroutines in macro to do all the RMS stuff. Not only did it P work well, giving us a standard interface along the way, but adding such things 8 as journalling when that arrived was relatively trivial.   ___ 
 Paul Sture Switzerland    ------------------------------  % Date: Sun, 21 May 2000 11:36:21 +0200   From: Paul Sture <paul@sture.ch>% Subject: Re: CPU Temperature from DCL + Message-ID: <VA.00000048.36fd9f0a@sture.ch>   > In article <392297C0.916F2282@bbc.co.uk>, Tim Llewellyn wrote:/ > From: Tim Llewellyn <tim.llewellyn@bbc.co.uk>  > Newsgroups: comp.os.vms ' > Subject: Re: CPU Temperature from DCL ' > Date: Wed, 17 May 2000 13:59:44 +0100  >  >  >  > Alan Greig wrote:  > B > >  A German tourist was stopped on the M90 north of Edinburgh at> > > 95 mph. Claimed that he thought the sign M90 indicated the@ > > speed limit in mph and that he was only marginally above it. > >  > < >  hmmm, well I do believe the speed limit is to low, should> > be 100 mph with serious penalties for anything above it. Oh,= > and lorries only on the inside lane => no lorry overtaking.  > --F Gotta bite at that one. I'd agree with a higher speed limit iff (sic) G the UK included motorway driving as part of the training necessary for  D a licence. The thought that someone who has never driven much above G 30-40 mph is suddenly allowed to drive on a motorway at even 70 scares  @ me (and it did indeed scare me all those years ago when I first  qualified).   F Not sure what you mean with the lorries bit. Of course, if the UK had G lane discipline (training again), much of that problem would be solved.  ___ 
 Paul Sture Switzerland    ------------------------------  % Date: Sun, 21 May 2000 12:19:31 +0200 + From: "Cor Smit" <cor.smit@isnetworking.nl>  Subject: For Sale 31802 Message-ID: <9SOV4.47$b3.1941@24hoursnet-reader-1>  	 For Sale:    Microvax 3100 model 80 96 Mb Memory 4x rz28 (1 Gb)  	 Fl. 750,=    ------------------------------  % Date: Sun, 21 May 2000 12:18:03 +0200 + From: "Cor Smit" <cor.smit@isnetworking.nl>  Subject: For Sale 31902 Message-ID: <NQOV4.46$b3.1902@24hoursnet-reader-1>  	 For Sale:  Microvax 3100 Model 90
 128 Mb memory  4 x RZ29 (2Gb)  Machine is in perfect condition.  
 Fl. 1250,=   ------------------------------  % Date: Sun, 21 May 2000 11:36:24 +0200   From: Paul Sture <paul@sture.ch>2 Subject: Re: HELP on calculating percentage in DCL+ Message-ID: <VA.00000049.36fdabfd@sture.ch>   F In article <802568E1.00679FC2.00@qedilc01.qedi.quintiles.com>,  wrote:" > From: steven.reece@quintiles.com > Newsgroups: comp.os.vms 4 > Subject: Re: HELP on calculating percentage in DCL' > Date: Tue, 16 May 2000 19:51:27 +0100  >  >  >  > N > Although Mike is probably right, the solution depends upon how big the disksR > are.  It is easy to overrun the limit for (integer) arithmetic in DCL with say aQ > 6 disk RAIDset of 9.1GB disks (and yes, I've done it and yes, the only solution 8 > I found was to use a C program to do the work for me). > O > You also need to bear in mind that DCL doesn't handle non-integer arithmetic. ? > You can't do 10.1 times 3.3 since it won't like the decimals.  > S I've had the situation where a bit of DCL crashed when someone added more space to  O an NT system serving up an NFS volume. In that case, I solved it by converting  Q blocks to megabytes. Accurate enough, since we were talking about a 70GB volume.  R (Side note, even though SHOW DEVICE doesn't show the free blocks on an NFS served C volume, f$getdvi(disk,"freeblocks") does return an accurate value).    ___ 
 Paul Sture Switzerland    ------------------------------  % Date: Sun, 21 May 2000 11:36:25 +0200   From: Paul Sture <paul@sture.ch>$ Subject: Re: Initializing all drives+ Message-ID: <VA.0000004a.36fdaf1a@sture.ch>   J In article <8fs33k$mfe$1@mailint03.im.hou.compaq.com>, Hoff Hoffman wrote:4 > From: hoffman@xdelta.zko.dec.nospam (Hoff Hoffman) > Newsgroups: comp.os.vms & > Subject: Re: Initializing all drives  > Date: 16 May 2000 18:13:08 GMT >  > r > In article <bFfU4.11562$%u6.661573@news1.telusplanet.net>, "Gord Coulman" <nospam_gcoulman@ccinet.ab.ca> writes:A > :We initialize our old hard drives with a drill press.  Really.  > I >   Ayup.  There are sites where shredding and then "slagging" the whole  I >   disk or the disk head-disk assembly (HDA) is common practice -- after L >   it gets erased or bulk degaussed.  The resulting slowly-dimming glowing : >   puddle of molten metal need not be guarded, of course. > V A crying shame that so many disks get wasted, but working for a bank I understand why.  R I heard a tale a few years ago of some guy who took his source disks to a customerU to do a software fix. Security wouldn't let him take his disks off site, and it _was_ S a site which had the know-how and equipment to scavenge his very expensive sources.   R Apparently, he took out a penknife and scratched off all the oxide from the disks!   ___ 
 Paul Sture Switzerland    ------------------------------  % Date: Sun, 21 May 2000 11:00:58 -0400 , From: Howard S Shubs <hshubs@mindspring.com>$ Subject: Re: Initializing all drives> Message-ID: <hshubs-076A95.11005821052000@news.mindspring.com>  @ In article <VA.0000004a.36fdaf1a@sture.ch>, paul@sture.ch wrote:  I >Apparently, he took out a penknife and scratched off all the oxide from   >the disks!   A I hope he billed them appropriately, for his time and the device.    --   Howard S Shubs, the Denim Adept    ------------------------------    Date: 21 May 2000 11:16:30 -04004 From: "Robert Deininger" <rdeininger@mindspring.com>; Subject: Re: Limiting Decnet Phase IV access with VMS 7.1-2 + Message-ID: <B54D7613-64023@165.247.45.212>   E On Fri, May 19, 2000 11:44 AM, Zeni B. Schleter <zzb@ornl.gov> wrote:   D >I have been searching the VMS docset. Found no reference to DEFAULTI >ACCESS. I can't find an old Decnet Phase IV manual.  I suspect I cleaned A >it out thinking that newer ones would come with the VMS docsets.   G Our VMS 7.1 Documentation CD (label OVMSDOC071) has the DECnet Phase IV G manuals on it.  Surely you didn't clean that out yet.  The decnet stuff 3 is in a separate bookshelf, not the main VMS shelf.    ---------------------------  Robert Deininger rdeininger@mindspring.com    ------------------------------  # Date: Sun, 21 May 2000 13:18:35 GMT 0 From: "Terry C. Shannon" <shannon@world.std.com>M Subject: Re: LOOK AND FEEL 10 YEARS YOUNGER - INCREASE SEXUAL POTENCY (13854) & Message-ID: <FuwvMw.CpK@world.std.com>  * <Kathyspammer@ada.net.tr> wrote in message$ news:58680.79995@mail.capehat.com...7 > What would you pay to look and feel 10 years younger?  > = > Would you be interested in increasing energy levels by 84%? 9 > How about Increasing Sexual Potency & Frequency by 75%?  > D > Would you like to increase your Muscle Strength by 88%  While.....F > At the same time...... Reducing Body Fat by 82% and Wrinkles by 61%? > G > Of Course you would! Well we have the Amazing HGH Releasor product to ( > help you achieve all of this and more!6 > PLUS~~~~ We have the scientific proof to back it up!  1 Sounds like an ad for OpenVMS Galaxy on WildFire.    ------------------------------  % Date: Sun, 21 May 2000 17:47:36 +0400 4 From: "Ruslan R. Laishev" <Laishev@SMTP.DeltaTel.RU>' Subject: Looking for PW API information 0 Message-ID: <3927E8F8.BAFEF703@SMTP.DeltaTel.RU>   Hi All! H 	I looking for any information about of "PW API" which allow to performsH autentication against PW AS database to my own application. May be there* exist some other way to fulfil this task ?   	TIA.  --   Regards.F +.....................pure personal opinion..........................+B     Free & commercial software for ISP -> HTTP://WWW.RadiusVMS.COM- 	Cel:+7 (901) 971-3222, Fax:+7 (812) 115-1035 G +............ Frying only on VMS, flying only by Su-27  .............+
    ------------------------------  % Date: Sun, 21 May 2000 13:51:46 +0100 , From: "Adrian Lumsden" <A.Lumsden@xdt.co.uk>( Subject: Re: MicroVAX, MS and RD53 disks/ Message-ID: <8g8oqv$juv$1@newsg3.svr.pol.co.uk>   9 I have a Maxtor XT-1140 sitting in a MVII that I upgraded : to a 3600 (change CPU and memory). It's a bit smaller than5 an RD54 isn't it? Mine is conected to an Emulex QD01.  I didn't try it on an RQDX3.   regards,   Adrian   --( Adrian Lumsden, XDT Computer Systems, UK" A dot Lumsden at xdt dot co dot uk      1 Cthulhu <cthulhu@kadath.deep.it> wrote in message " news:8g5s1r$jr$1@kadath.deep.it...( > Chris Scheers <asi@airmail.net> wrote: > E > > You mention RD54s, so I assume that you have an RQDX3 controller.  > * > BTW, I have a MicroVAX II with an RQDX3., > Now, I have also a pair of Maxtor XT-1140. >  > Can they be used together? >  > patchworking,  >    Cthulhu >  > -- > A >        Ph'nglui mglw'nafh Cthulhu http://www.rlyeh.it wgah'nagl  fhtgan! % >        <cthulhu at flashnet dot it>    ------------------------------  # Date: Sun, 21 May 2000 14:01:23 GMT 0 From: "Terry C. Shannon" <shannon@world.std.com>  Subject: SKC's OpenVMS Viewpoint& Message-ID: <FuwxLt.LF9@world.std.com>  G A variant of my recent OpenVMS brief is posted at www.theregister.co.uk A under the heading "Compaq's OpenVMS Cash Cow Not Abbatoir-Ready."    -- Terry C. Shannon. Consultant and Publisher, Shannon Knows Compaq Visiting Vulture, The Register shannon@world.std.com  http://www.acersoft.com    ------------------------------  % Date: Sun, 21 May 2000 02:16:47 -0400 - From: JF Mezei <jfmezei.spamnot@videotron.ca> > Subject: Re: Software for Grownups (Was: Re: "Modern" OpenVMS), Message-ID: <39277F49.42CBE62A@videotron.ca>  V Interesting tidbit about those NASA contractors who write serous code for the shuttle.  J The pilots of OV-104 (Atlantis) found an interesting "feature" (rememeber,D there are no bugs in those programs :-). When they reset some of theK brightness of some displays in the new glass cockpit, it causes part of the , rpogram to go into a temporary self-test :-)   ------------------------------  % Date: Sun, 21 May 2000 16:46:34 +1000 / From: "Phil Howell" <howellp@snowyhydro.com.au>   Subject: Re: Swapped out process3 Message-ID: <gDLV4.38957$PL4.820541@ozemail.com.au>   K When you do a show process, vms has to swap it back in again to look at it. K Have a look at the process 'state' while it is still outswapped. Is it HIBO E (waiting to be woken up) or LEFO (waiting for i/o) or something else?  Phil8 Steven Xie <r33300@msghkg1.sps.mot.com> wrote in message- news:392764E7.ACA13833@msghkg1.sps.mot.com... J > I got a question here. By looking at one of my system, there are severalB > "swapped out" processes there and I believe they made the systemH > performance down. I tried to use "show proce/id=id_number" to show theH > details of the system, but after I did this, the "swapped out" processC > just gone. Looks like the "show proce" command fix the "swap out"  > process error. >hI > My question is, What's the reason cause the "swap out" process? And did . > the "show process" really fixed the problem? >i	 > Thanks,r > Steven >R   ------------------------------  % Date: Sat, 20 May 2000 23:59:34 -0700M- From: Steven Xie <r33300@msghkg1.sps.mot.com>   Subject: Re: Swapped out process3 Message-ID: <39278956.BCEC75C8@msghkg1.sps.mot.com>r  M Thanks, Phil, you are right, when I looked at the process state, it's in HIBOkN state, is that will affect my system's performance? And what's the "waiting toK be woken up" suppose mean? And one more thing is what cause the problem, isd- there something wrong with the system memory?y   Thanks,  Steven   Phil Howell wrote:  M > When you do a show process, vms has to swap it back in again to look at it.uM > Have a look at the process 'state' while it is still outswapped. Is it HIBO:G > (waiting to be woken up) or LEFO (waiting for i/o) or something else?f > Phil: > Steven Xie <r33300@msghkg1.sps.mot.com> wrote in message/ > news:392764E7.ACA13833@msghkg1.sps.mot.com...iL > > I got a question here. By looking at one of my system, there are severalD > > "swapped out" processes there and I believe they made the systemJ > > performance down. I tried to use "show proce/id=id_number" to show theJ > > details of the system, but after I did this, the "swapped out" processE > > just gone. Looks like the "show proce" command fix the "swap out"e > > process error. > >oK > > My question is, What's the reason cause the "swap out" process? And dida0 > > the "show process" really fixed the problem? > >  > > Thanks,w
 > > Steven > >t   ------------------------------  % Date: Sun, 21 May 2000 13:20:13 +0100i. From: mpatt644 <mpatt644@netscapeonline.co.uk>  Subject: Re: Swapped out process4 Message-ID: <3927D47D.15FAA81E@netscapeonline.co.uk>   Steven,vE 	It's difficult to say what might be giving you performance problems.IG Having a few swapped out processes on they system is not likely to be avE problem in itself unless they are repeatedly being swapped in and out G again.  You should be looking at some other figures such as what is the C overall pagefault rate, what is the inswap rate, freelist size etc.l     Steven Xie wrote:  > O > Thanks, Phil, you are right, when I looked at the process state, it's in HIBOmP > state, is that will affect my system's performance? And what's the "waiting toM > be woken up" suppose mean? And one more thing is what cause the problem, ise/ > there something wrong with the system memory?n > 	 > Thanks,r > Steven >  > Phil Howell wrote: > O > > When you do a show process, vms has to swap it back in again to look at it.tO > > Have a look at the process 'state' while it is still outswapped. Is it HIBOuI > > (waiting to be woken up) or LEFO (waiting for i/o) or something else?n > > Phil< > > Steven Xie <r33300@msghkg1.sps.mot.com> wrote in message1 > > news:392764E7.ACA13833@msghkg1.sps.mot.com...aN > > > I got a question here. By looking at one of my system, there are severalF > > > "swapped out" processes there and I believe they made the systemL > > > performance down. I tried to use "show proce/id=id_number" to show theL > > > details of the system, but after I did this, the "swapped out" processG > > > just gone. Looks like the "show proce" command fix the "swap out"l > > > process error. > > > M > > > My question is, What's the reason cause the "swap out" process? And didt2 > > > the "show process" really fixed the problem? > > >m
 > > > Thanks,I > > > Steven > > >s   ------------------------------  % Date: Sun, 21 May 2000 08:30:09 -0400i2 From: "Richard B. Gilbert" <DRAGON@compuserve.com> Subject: Swapped out process7 Message-ID: <200005210830_MC2-A5CA-A50D@compuserve.com>-  J         A process is swapped out because it is not doing any work and the=  J physical memory it occupies can be better used in support of a process th= at is doing something useful.  J         A swapped out process is using an absolute minimum of resources a= ndB is not a performance problem unless it is being swapped in and outJ frequently.  I just checked my personal system and found only one process=  F swapped out; REMACP in HIBO state.  It is present because I configuredG DECnet on the system and it is not doing anything, nor is it likely to, J because I do not have another DECnet node on my home network at the momen= t.      " Message text written by Steven XieJ >I got a question here. By looking at one of my system, there are several=  @ "swapped out" processes there and I believe they made the systemH performance down. I tried to use "show proce/id=3Did_number" to show theF details of the system, but after I did this, the "swapped out" processA just gone. Looks like the "show proce" command fix the "swap out"i process error.  G My question is, What's the reason cause the "swap out" process? And didn, the "show process" really fixed the problem? <    ------------------------------  % Date: Sun, 21 May 2000 10:56:54 -0400f, From: Howard S Shubs <hshubs@mindspring.com>  Subject: Re: Swapped out process> Message-ID: <hshubs-7AA33B.10565421052000@news.mindspring.com>  ? In article <39278956.BCEC75C8@msghkg1.sps.mot.com>, Steven Xie l# <r33300@msghkg1.sps.mot.com> wrote:n  J >Thanks, Phil, you are right, when I looked at the process state, it's in  >HIBOeD >state, is that will affect my system's performance? And what's the  >"waiting toJ >be woken up" suppose mean? And one more thing is what cause the problem,  >isr. >there something wrong with the system memory?  F These processes were not active before they were swapped out.  HIB is F "hibernate" state.  The system moved them out, presumably, after they   were in HIB state for some time.   -- e Howard S Shubs, the Denim AdeptU   ------------------------------  % Date: Sun, 21 May 2000 11:36:47 +0200a  From: Paul Sture <paul@sture.ch>  Subject: Re: VMS on the desktop?+ Message-ID: <VA.00000050.36fe0365@sture.ch>e  N In article <taterskins-ya023480001905002224510001@news.patriot.net>, Ramon L.  Tate wrote:9 >  [snip] > K > I just saw an employment ad on the Web for a job where, in describing the0J > company, they stated they had "a 300-user client/server application on aJ > 35-server network with 450 users". Sure sounds like TinyLimp to me; theyH > certainly wouldn't need 35 Alphas (or even VAXen) to support this manyJ > users under VMS. They didn't state how many people it takes to keep this > whole thing going, though....o > N At how much a server? 2,000 USD? 3,000 USD? More? Adding just one more may be 8 petty cash, but at 35 we are getting to Wildfire prices.  ! What price a pair of DS10s again?.   And the staff costs too... ___e
 Paul Sture Switzerland0   ------------------------------  % Date: Sun, 21 May 2000 16:49:29 +1000(/ From: "Phil Howell" <howellp@snowyhydro.com.au>e% Subject: Re: Voluntary Milking Systema3 Message-ID: <_FLV4.38958$PL4.820680@ozemail.com.au>   J Our local Tandy (Radio Shack) shop has a sign on the door proclaiming "VAX serviced here".e, I understand it is a type of vacuum cleaner. Phil= David Mathog <mathog@seqaxp.bio.caltech.edu> wrote in messagem& news:8g6vn1$910@gap.cco.caltech.edu...J > Today while having the oil changed in my wife's Legacy I chanced to open upC > the April 2000 issue of Popular Mechanics and noticed a couple of-L > paragraphs about VMS.  It stood for "Voluntary Milking System" and allowedH > cows to wander into a barn and get milked (by a machine) whenever they feltF > like it. Very much like the situation with the VMS we know and love, except8 > I doubt the cows need to try so hard to find the barn. > F > This would tend to explain the "milked until there was no more left" feeling   > that VMS customers experience! >u
 > Regards, >  > David Mathog > mathog@seqaxp.bio.caltech.edu.@ > Manager, sequence analysis facility, biology division, Caltech   ------------------------------  # Date: Sun, 21 May 2000 13:19:33 GMT 0 From: "Terry C. Shannon" <shannon@world.std.com>% Subject: Re: Voluntary Milking System & Message-ID: <Fuwvo9.Cvr@world.std.com>  : "Phil Howell" <howellp@snowyhydro.com.au> wrote in message- news:_FLV4.38958$PL4.820680@ozemail.com.au...tL > Our local Tandy (Radio Shack) shop has a sign on the door proclaiming "VAX > serviced here".a. > I understand it is a type of vacuum cleaner.  K Yup. It's a British product, available here in the States through Sears. No  OS license required.   ------------------------------  % Date: Sun, 21 May 2000 11:36:49 +0200i  From: Paul Sture <paul@sture.ch>5 Subject: Re: What cobol statements affect bytlm quotah+ Message-ID: <VA.00000051.36fe0c5b@sture.ch>m  B In article <8g12r0$1o4t$1@s2.feed.news.oleane.net>, Jean-Franois  Marchal wrote:@ > From: "Jean-Franois Marchal" <jean-francois.marchal@x9000.fr> > Newsgroups: comp.os.vmsH3 > Subject: What cobol statements affect bytlm quotae' > Date: Thu, 18 May 2000 17:40:39 +0200o > $ > Considering a program using cobol,- > and no direct call to vms library routines,-- > where should I dig to see where the program0. > is burning large quantities of BYTLM quota ? > F I've never seen Cobol programs burning BYTLM, but I've not used it in  agner since VAX days.1  F One thought: Do any of the files use the "reserve" clause to increase 
 buffer sizes?    ___o
 Paul Sture Switzerlandp   ------------------------------  % Date: Sun, 21 May 2000 11:36:27 +0200:  From: Paul Sture <paul@sture.ch>" Subject: Re: Wildfire Announcement+ Message-ID: <VA.0000004d.36fdb79c@sture.ch>.  C In article <39255fbf$1@news.kapsch.co.at>, Peter LANGSTOEGER wrote:. > Newsgroups: comp.os.vmsT$ > Subject: Re: Wildfire Announcement, > From: eplan@kapsch.net (Peter LANGSTOEGER)" > Date: 19 May 2000 17:37:35 +0200 > 4 > I don't know if it was already mentioned here, so: > 4 > In "Compaq pins Internet hopes on new server line" > 4 >  http://news.cnet.com/news/0-1003-200-1883819.html > 
 > there is > O >  While rivals such as Sun have focused on big-iron servers, Compaq is bettingaO >  successful computer makers must find new ways of delivering content quickly. N >  That means larger servers on the back end supported by a lot of storage andN >  intermediary servers, such as Wildfire, in the middle, plus smaller servers/ >  for caching Web content for quick delivery. l > 3 > Can anyone explain what the "back end" would be ?n > I > Sigh, Compaq did it again (because most likely all people will continue * > to think "back end" is obviously SUN)... >uJ Talking about Sun, here's a wonderful quote from Chris Sarfas, UK product M manager at Sun Microsystems, on Compaq's claim that the WildFire platform is e7 half the price and double the performance of Sun boxes:a  M "A Skoda is half the price of a Ford, but that doesn't make Skoda the market lK leader." (full article at http://www.theregister.co.uk/000518-000014.html )   O An interesting analogy. I'd rather have a _modern_ Skoda than a Ford. Since VW eK bought Skoda and knocked it into shape, you can forget the old jokes about cO doubling a Skoda's value by filling it with fuel. These things are basically a  M VW with a different badge, and extremely good value for money. No doubt many cN will still be running when the double price Fords have hit the scrapyard, and 6 will command a better second hand price meanwhile too.   Over to you, Mr Sarfas...d ___  Paul Sture (Audi driver, BTW)M Switzerlandt   ------------------------------  % Date: Sun, 21 May 2000 11:36:36 +0200y$ From: Paul Sture <sture.ch@sture.ch>F Subject: Re: Wildfire Announcement: Michael Capellas, can you say VMS?+ Message-ID: <VA.0000004f.36fdd82f@sture.ch>   K In article <3925596F.501D6D0@merlin.arc.nasa.gov>, Arthur E. Ragosta wrote:a9 > From: "Arthur E. Ragosta" <ragosta@merlin.arc.nasa.gov>l > Newsgroups: comp.os.vmsOH > Subject: Re: Wildfire Announcement: Michael Capellas, can you say VMS?' > Date: Fri, 19 May 2000 08:10:39 -0700m >  > Carl Perkins wrote:s > M > > Perhaps they could send half a years worth of it to Corel. They could use0M > > the money and we could use a complete port of Corel WordPerfect Office in8J > > its current version (even at just the "standard" level - that would beK > > WordPerfect, Quattro, Presentations, and Trellix, and probably the SDK, Q > > and perhaps CorelCENTRAL (for synchronizing your Palm PDA), but they probably!M > > have little control over a port of the Adobe Acrobat Reader and MS Visualh" > > Basic for Applications Tools). > >nP Yes, I really like that idea! Think of it from Compaq's point of view. Straight J away they get something they can package on the PCs, and keep the revenue P themselves, longer term a port to VMS & Unix. The more I thin of it, the more I  like the idea.  H I've really got to say this. I have tried StarOffice (Windows and Linux R versions), and Applixware on Linux. Believe me, many is the time I've just wanted K to chicken out and get MS Office instead, and on occasions the only factor lQ stopping me from an impulse purchase is that the shops here only have the German .Q language version. (I have to make some effort to order an English version, which d makes me stop and think).7  O I'll give you one example. I recently found a tab delimited address book on an -R old floppy (an Outlook 97 export). I have found over the years that tab delimited K files have been a reliable way to export and import stuff between packages.o  P Neither StarOffice nor Applixware could understand tab delimited. After a brief N foray into emacs (which I am not au fait with), I simply took the floppy into A work, doing a quick import/export using Office to get a CSV file.t  P StarOffice (Linux version) didn't even understand CSV files - it has semi-colon O delimited support! Finally got it into an Applixware spreadsheet (I've totally uK failed to get Applixware talking to a database too), but it was a far from i trivial exercise.r  P Neither StarOffice nor Applixware cut it for me. I spent many frustrating hours  to bring you that information. h  I OTOH, I got a cheap PeeCee last weekend and it came with the WordPerfect .R Officesuite. Good word processor and although I haven't had time yet, I'm willing I to bet it can output reasonable html. Quattro-Pro has long since been my nR favourite (and fastest) spreadsheet. Loads of usable looking templates as well (I P never found an MSOffice one which I didn't have to munge drastically to make it  useful for me.   > E > Let's not forget Paradox.  We could use a cheap, powerful database.  >e7 I think I've got the WP "Standard" version, without it.e  Q C'mon Compaq. Go for it! Or Sun / IBM / HP will get there before you. Might even nQ give your share price a boost, whilst you are at it. Now is just the right time, h, whilst the courts are giving M$ a hard time. ___-
 Paul Sture Switzerland-   ------------------------------  % Date: Sun, 21 May 2000 11:36:28 +0200o  From: Paul Sture <paul@sture.ch>F Subject: Re: Wildfire Announcement: Michael Capellas, can you say VMS?+ Message-ID: <VA.0000004e.36fdbae6@sture.ch>o  C In article <3923D5A3.64F02E1D@trailing-edge.com>, Tim Shoppa wrote: ' > Date: Thu, 18 May 2000 11:36:03 -0400r- > From: Tim Shoppa <shoppa@trailing-edge.com>  > Newsgroups: comp.os.vms H > Subject: Re: Wildfire Announcement: Michael Capellas, can you say VMS? > & > Brian Schenkenberger, VAXman- wrote: > > ] > > In article <FuqAA4.BBH@world.std.com>, "Terry C. Shannon" <shannon@world.std.com> writes:0 > > >{...snip...}eN > > >Apparently you were not in NYC yesterday. Rich Marcello spent a half hourP > > >talking to customers (nope, not the press/analyst folks, who probably can't? > > >even spell VMS) about OpenVMS. Did a pretty good job, too.s > > Q > > Reality check.  Torquemada didn't invade the Vatican to convert the faithful!t > > Q > > Compaq needs to have an Alpha and VMS inquisition to convert the billyheathenm > > sinners. > G >          NOBODY expects the Spanish Inquisition!  Our chief weapon is G >          suprise...surprise and fear...fear and surprise....  Our twonG >          weapons are fear and surprise...and ruthless efficiency.... w? >          Our *three* weapons are fear, surprise, and ruthlesstH >          efficiency...and an almost fanatical devotion to the Pope....E >          Our *four*...no...  *Amongst* our weapons....  Amongst ouro? >          weaponry...are such elements as fear, surprise....    >          I'll come in again. h > ' To which I have to completely misquote:-  . "What did OpenVMS engineering ever do for us?"   "You can sleep at night"  R "Well, apart from sleeping at night, what did OpenVMS Engineering ever do for us?"   "They gave us stable systems"m  \ "Well, apart from sleeping at night and having stable systems, what did OpenVMS Engineering  ever do for us?"   ..and so on... ___m
 Paul Sture Switzerlandt   ------------------------------  % Date: Sun, 21 May 2000 02:03:27 -0400b- From: JF Mezei <jfmezei.spamnot@videotron.ca>  Subject: Re: Win a DS10v, Message-ID: <39277C2B.CDFC77BD@videotron.ca>   "Richard B. Gilbert" wrote:b > E >         I can get to the site OK but I can't seem to answer all the L > questions correctly!  <sigh>  This, in spite of spending a couple of hoursL > browsing the site trying to find out "How many levels of CustomSystems andA > Solutions services are available on the AlphaServer GS series?"i  L Look at the source... They tried to make it har to see what the answers are,J but if you spend enough time reverse engineering the code, you'll get your answers :-)n   ------------------------------  # Date: Sun, 21 May 2000 15:29:24 GMTe4 From: kaplow_r@eisner.decus.org.spamnot (Bob Kaplow) Subject: Re: Win a DS10l+ Message-ID: <K$kuI+hQjf+E@eisner.decus.org>t  p In article <8g6uv5$1h5q$1@nserve1.acs.ucalgary.ca>, patchkov@acs1.acs.ucalgary.ca (Serguei Patchkovskii) writes:2 > Steven P. Underwood (StevenU@POBoxes.com) wrote:H > : Please post the answers (after the contest is over) as I want to seeC > : which ones I missed.  I confirmed all but the obvious marketing.E > : questions and was still told I had one or more incorrect answers.E > M > Oh, you probably had answered "NUMA" to the first question, right? For some M > reason, the "right" answer is "low occupancy", which is quite nonsensical -tN > unless, that is, the poor marketdroid designing the questionaire was trying I > to hint that a single occupancy hotel suite would fit his needs better i1 > next time he has to go on a trip. Or something.r  H The set of questions for the October "announcement" was actually better.F These were awful obscure, except for the last one, which I believe was "CRAY".    	Bob Kaplow	  E SPAM:	spamrecycle@ChooseYourmail.com	uce@ftc.gov	postmaster@127.0.0.1A   ------------------------------   End of INFO-VAX 2000.283 ************************