1 INFO-VAX	Tue, 23 May 2000	Volume 2000 : Issue 286       Contents: Re: 400a/400au + 500a/500au  Re: 400a/400au + 500a/500au ! Re: Alpha Firmware Update = Hosed ! Re: Alpha Firmware Update = Hosed ! Re: Alpha Firmware Update = Hosed ! Re: Alpha Firmware Update = Hosed 7 Anyone got an example of lib$set_symbol in a c program? ; Re: Anyone got an example of lib$set_symbol in a c program?  C5.7 vs C6.2 Re: C5.7 vs C6.2 Re: C5.7 vs C6.28 chinese i-ching forecast anything  http://iching.126.com Corrupt zip file Re: Corrupt zip file Re: Corrupt zip file7 Re: Creating a new user using a system service...HOW??? 7 Re: Creating a new user using a system service...HOW??? 7 Re: Creating a new user using a system service...HOW??? 8 Re: DCL: how to get the name of the current subroutine ?8 Re: DCL: how to get the name of the current subroutine ?4 DCL: how to get the name of the current subroutine ? Free TK50 tapes ! FW: Windows 98 Vs. Windows NT 4.0 ! FW: Windows 98 Vs. Windows NT 4.0 " Re: Gartner commentary on Wildfire" Re: Gartner commentary on Wildfire Re: Hangs on HSZ703 Re: how to get the name of the current subroutine ?  Re: KOffice -> OVMS?2 Re: Limiting Decnet Phase IV access with VMS 7.1-22 Re: Limiting Decnet Phase IV access with VMS 7.1-2 Re: MicroVAX, MS and RD53 disks 7 Network Fault Tolerance and also Interconnect Protocols # OpenVMS, and PowerStorm 300 and 350 & Re: Prob w/DCPS 1.7,HP4050, and HPGL/25 Re: problem linking to ucx$ipc.olb on AXP/VMX71-UCX40 5 Re: problem linking to ucx$ipc.olb on AXP/VMX71-UCX40  RADIUS for VMS Re: RADIUS for VMS Re: RADIUS for VMS Re: RADIUS for VMS Re: RADIUS for VMS Re: SKC's OpenVMS Viewpoint 1 Re: Tape Data Recovery (was Re: Need urgent help)  TCP/IP SNA Gateway Solution  Re: TCP/IP SNA Gateway Solution  Re: TCP/IP SNA Gateway Solution  Re: TCP/IP SNA Gateway Solution ' Re: Using both uppercase and lowercase! ' Re: Using both uppercase and lowercase! ' Re: Using both uppercase and lowercase! ' Re: Using both uppercase and lowercase! ' Re: Using both uppercase and lowercase! ! VMS equivalent of UNIX dd command % Re: VMS equivalent of UNIX dd command % Re: VMS equivalent of UNIX dd command  Re: Voluntary Milking System Re: Voluntary Milking System RE: Voluntary Milking System Re: Wildfire Announcement  Re: Wildfire Announcement  Re: Wildfire Announcement  Re: Win a DS10 Re: Win a DS10! Re: Windows 98 Vs. Windows NT 4.0 ! Re: Windows 98 Vs. Windows NT 4.0  Re: Windows/VMS integration  Re: Windows/VMS integration  Windows/VMS integration   F ----------------------------------------------------------------------  % Date: Mon, 22 May 2000 20:10:44 -0400 + From: "David Turner" <d_b_turner@yahoo.com> $ Subject: Re: 400a/400au + 500a/500au- Message-ID: <sijiv88mo195@corp.supernews.com>    Well - Bon Soir Msr Moi/me   Alpha PWS 500a(u)    We modifiy them and resell them   D As far as we have seen, no one has put their system on a maintenance< contract, purely because it is too expensive and unnecessary  H As we use mostly digital parts (except for the graphics card and the OEMD version of DEC's KZPBA scsi UW card) I couldn't see why they(compaq) wouldn't  L Remember though, Compaq ain't Digital - the service folks normally would getJ there next day sometime, not within 4 hours like it used to be - even whenK you have a 4 hour contract (my experience and that of many people with whom  I communicate)  G We offer a 1 year warranty, advanced product replacement - goes for the - motherboard, cpu memory video card CD-ROm etc   J We ship FEDEX P1 in the USA and Canada, and Datapost in the UK - and FEDEX$ EU for European customers (next day)  B If you wanted an extended plan, we could do this for a nominal fee (just like best buy !)   Regards    David Turner Island Computers US Corporation  2700 Gregory Street  Savannah GA 31404  Tel: 912 447 6622  Fax:912 201 0096 sales@islandco.com     ----- Original Message -----) From: "moi_is_me" <moi_is_me@my-deja.com>  Newsgroups: comp.os.vms " Sent: Monday, May 22, 2000 9:18 AM  Subject: 400a/400au + 500a/500au     >  > C > Of late, there seems to be a number of 400a + 500a alpha machines  > showing up for sale. > B > What parts (and at what cost) are actually involved in modifying! > one of these to run VMS/TRU64 ?  > G > For those that have modified one ... have you good / bad experience ?  > 6 > BTW - once modified, can you get support contracts ? >  > TIA  >  > ( > Sent via Deja.com http://www.deja.com/ > Before you buy.   4 "moi_is_me" <moi_is_me@my-deja.com> wrote in message# news:8gbc3g$rh0$1@nnrp1.deja.com...  >  > C > Of late, there seems to be a number of 400a + 500a alpha machines  > showing up for sale. > B > What parts (and at what cost) are actually involved in modifying! > one of these to run VMS/TRU64 ?  > G > For those that have modified one ... have you good / bad experience ?  > 6 > BTW - once modified, can you get support contracts ? >  > TIA  >  > ( > Sent via Deja.com http://www.deja.com/ > Before you buy.    ------------------------------  # Date: Tue, 23 May 2000 00:10:34 GMT 2 From: "Zane H. Healy" <healyzh@shell1.aracnet.com>$ Subject: Re: 400a/400au + 500a/500au6 Message-ID: <_%jW4.1151$NX3.30704@typhoon.aracnet.com>  ( moi_is_me <moi_is_me@my-deja.com> wrote:C > Of late, there seems to be a number of 400a + 500a alpha machines  > showing up for sale.   I'm assuming you mean a 433a?     B > What parts (and at what cost) are actually involved in modifying! > one of these to run VMS/TRU64 ?   J I just got a 433a a couple months ago from a used PC store, oddly enough. J I'd gone in there trying to find a 810 SCSI board to try and use in one of0 my Hobbyist VMS boxes and I left with a 433a :^)  K I was lucky, it had the UW SCSI card, and a 2GB UW drive.  However, it only I had a IDE CD-ROM, 64MB of RAM and a 4D40T Graphics adapter.  I added a 4x M SCSI drive I had, and bought a Elsa Gloria Synergy card and a 256MB RAM kit.  K I also added the 4mm DAT (TLZ06?) I'd just gotten for another system to it.   G > For those that have modified one ... have you good / bad experience ?   I Well, the Elsa Gloria Synergy doesn't work right for me at 1280x1024, but L other than that I absolutly love the system.  Especially considering what itH would have cost to add 256MB of RAM to my AlphaStation 500/333!  OpenVMSL V7.2 totally screams on it :^)  Well, at least compared to the other OpenVMS boxes I've got at home.   6 > BTW - once modified, can you get support contracts ?  . No idea, that would be a question for Compaq.    				Zane   ------------------------------  % Date: Mon, 22 May 2000 18:37:22 +0000  From: SysAdmin <djesys@fsi.net> * Subject: Re: Alpha Firmware Update = Hosed' Message-ID: <39297E62.83014624@fsi.net>    Hoff Hoffman wrote:  > K > In article <39295C59.FE35AE42@fsi.net>, SysAdmin <djesys@fsi.net> writes: @ > :...AlphaStation 200 4/233 to the SRM console, and now have an > :unusable machine. > G >   This doesn't initially look like it might need the failsafe loader, C >   but that's around if the firmware should actually be scrozzled.   E Dunno - couldn't find any mention of it (failsafe loader) in the User  doc.    > :...K > :I have a machine that goes as far as "e6." on the POST, spits a bunch of J > :register dump info. up the screen so fast you can't write it down, then4 > :resets itself and repeates the procedure forever. > :... > J >   Exactly what I/O widgets are present in this box?  (eg: are all of theK >   PCI widgets present -- particularly the graphics widget -- supported by  >   SRM and by OpenVMS?)   Check THIS out...   F It had a two slot PCMCIA card in it (EISA, I guess, actually) (What isG this?) and a Number Nine video card. No HD or CD present, internal SCSI  bus terminated.    K > :I know this has been brought up here before (probably should go into the 2 > :FAQ, huh?), but was unable to locate the fix... > ' >   Um, the fix depends on the problem.   G Here's the meat of the issue (pun intended) (I'm transcribing this from ) a VT220 we used as the serial console)...    *** keyboard not plugged in ... ! ff.fe.fd.fc.fb.fa.f9.f8.f7.f6.f5. E ef.df.ee.ed.ec.f4.eb.ea.e9.e8.e7.e6.insufficient dynamic memory for a  request of 1536 bytes     PID       bytes  name -------- ---------- ---- 00000000      29248 ???? 00000001      28640 idle 00000002        800 dead_eater 00000003        800 poll 00000004        800 timer  00000005     126336 powerup  00000006       2880 tt_control 00000007        800 shell_0  00000008       1088 pka0_poll  00000009        992 rx_ewa0   , exception context saved starting at 0002A4B0  3 (Then the register dump, which I don't have handy.)   G Anyway, the crack about "insufficient ... memory" suggested adding more D memory might be worth a try. So, we borrwed some memory from another% AS200 we have on the bench back here.    Guess what?    THAT SOLVED IT!!  3 Now I went back and checked - the release notes ... B ftp://ftp.digital.com/pub/Digital/Alpha/firmware/readmes/v5.7/doc/ alpha200_v70_fw_relnote.txt   F ...nowhere suggest that any specific amount of RAM is required for theE SRM console alone (much less OpenVMS), except for the included sample 6 "show config" display showing a machine with 32MB RAM.  G We borrowed a disk from another AS200 we had on the bench and were able H to boot up and shut down OpenVMS. Not much would run since the system onF the disk was configured for a machine having 128MB(?) of RAM. Needless to say, 32MB didn't cut it.   E Not sure what this means, but perhaps the 32MB RAM minimum applied to ? OpenVMS-Alpha should apply to the SRM console frimware as well.    Dunno - whaddaya think?    David J. Dachtera    ------------------------------   Date: 22 May 2000 19:09:08 GMT2 From: hoffman@xdelta.zko.dec.nospam (Hoff Hoffman)* Subject: Re: Alpha Firmware Update = Hosed6 Message-ID: <8gc0kk$t6s$1@mailint03.im.hou.compaq.com>  I In article <39297E62.83014624@fsi.net>, SysAdmin <djesys@fsi.net> writes:  :Hoff Hoffman wrote: :>  L :> In article <39295C59.FE35AE42@fsi.net>, SysAdmin <djesys@fsi.net> writes:A :> :...AlphaStation 200 4/233 to the SRM console, and now have an  :> :unusable machine.  :>  H :>   This doesn't initially look like it might need the failsafe loader,D :>   but that's around if the firmware should actually be scrozzled. : F :Dunno - couldn't find any mention of it (failsafe loader) in the User :doc.   I   I've posted information on the failsafe loader for various boxes in the G   past before -- the documentation is in various places, but it is best K   to have the service manual handy.  (This information is sometimes tucked  K   into a corner or a table in the user's guide manual, in the same general  ?   area as the procedure used for updating the firmware itself.)   G :It had a two slot PCMCIA card in it (EISA, I guess, actually) (What is H :this?) and a Number Nine video card. No HD or CD present, internal SCSI :bus terminated.  G   The PCMCIA widget might well be tolerated (or not -- donno), but the  9   #9 widget will likely eventually precipitate a problem.     :*** keyboard not plugged in ..." :ff.fe.fd.fc.fb.fa.f9.f8.f7.f6.f5.F :ef.df.ee.ed.ec.f4.eb.ea.e9.e8.e7.e6.insufficient dynamic memory for a :request of 1536 bytes ..H :Anyway, the crack about "insufficient ... memory" suggested adding moreE :memory might be worth a try. So, we borrwed some memory from another & :AS200 we have on the bench back here.  >   How much memory did this box actually have when you started?  F :Not sure what this means, but perhaps the 32MB RAM minimum applied to@ :OpenVMS-Alpha should apply to the SRM console frimware as well.  G   The firmware does need some host memory.  I don't remember the exact  .   number of physical pages it needs off-hand.)  N  --------------------------- pure personal opinion ---------------------------L    Hoff (Stephen) Hoffman   OpenVMS Engineering   hoffman#xdelta.zko.dec.com   ------------------------------  % Date: Mon, 22 May 2000 21:26:29 +0000  From: SysAdmin <djesys@fsi.net> * Subject: Re: Alpha Firmware Update = Hosed' Message-ID: <3929A605.10C2CE7A@fsi.net>    Hoff Hoffman wrote: H >   The PCMCIA widget might well be tolerated (or not -- donno), but the; >   #9 widget will likely eventually precipitate a problem.   7 I'll probably run it without the graphics card, anyway.    " > :*** keyboard not plugged in ...$ > :ff.fe.fd.fc.fb.fa.f9.f8.f7.f6.f5.H > :ef.df.ee.ed.ec.f4.eb.ea.e9.e8.e7.e6.insufficient dynamic memory for a > :request of 1536 bytes > ..J > :Anyway, the crack about "insufficient ... memory" suggested adding moreG > :memory might be worth a try. So, we borrwed some memory from another ( > :AS200 we have on the bench back here. > @ >   How much memory did this box actually have when you started?   16MB - two(2) 8MB SIMMs   1 Anyway, got it going. Thought you'd want to know.    BFN    David J. Dachtera    ------------------------------  % Date: Mon, 22 May 2000 21:27:53 -0400 * From: David A Froble <davef@tsoft-inc.com>* Subject: Re: Alpha Firmware Update = Hosed- Message-ID: <3929DE99.5583695F@tsoft-inc.com>    SysAdmin wrote:  >  > Hoff Hoffman wrote: J > >   The PCMCIA widget might well be tolerated (or not -- donno), but the= > >   #9 widget will likely eventually precipitate a problem.  > 9 > I'll probably run it without the graphics card, anyway.  > $ > > :*** keyboard not plugged in ...& > > :ff.fe.fd.fc.fb.fa.f9.f8.f7.f6.f5.J > > :ef.df.ee.ed.ec.f4.eb.ea.e9.e8.e7.e6.insufficient dynamic memory for a > > :request of 1536 bytes > > ..L > > :Anyway, the crack about "insufficient ... memory" suggested adding moreI > > :memory might be worth a try. So, we borrwed some memory from another * > > :AS200 we have on the bench back here. > > B > >   How much memory did this box actually have when you started? >  > 16MB - two(2) 8MB SIMMs  > 3 > Anyway, got it going. Thought you'd want to know.  >  > BFN  >  > David J. Dachtera   J The 16 MB of memory and the PCMCIA adapter are pretty sure pointers to theP rather inexpensive systems available in the past.  Possibly all from one source,3 heard a rumor about a cancelled Air Force contract.   H I have a number of these machines.  The SRM _WILL_ boot up with 16 MB ofP memory.  I'm not sure if I ever left the video cards in prior to powering up theM systems, and I'm sure the PCMCIA adaptors were also not preasent. I'd look at O the memory SIMMs.  Possibly there is some bad memory, and yes, I'd expect it to L still be a problem if it was in the lowest memory slots, but it still sounds like a memory problem.  M I had one system running with 2 64 MB simms.  Kept crashing at random times.  O Finally pulled the SIMMs and put in 2 32 MB SIMMs I had.  Ran for 68 days until J shut down for cleaning.  Was pretty clean inside, so I should have left it0 running.  Guess I'll never hit the 17 year mark.  N While the SRM will boot with 16 MB, VMS will NOT boot without 32 MB, just like the SPD claims.    Dave   --  4 David Froble                       Tel: 724-529-04504 Dave Froble Enterprises, Inc.      Fax: 724-529-0596; 170 Grimplin Road               E-Mail: davef@tsoft-inc.com  Vanderbilt, PA  15486    ------------------------------  % Date: Tue, 23 May 2000 00:05:47 -0400 2 From: "Richard B. Gilbert" <DRAGON@compuserve.com>@ Subject: Anyone got an example of lib$set_symbol in a c program?7 Message-ID: <200005230006_MC2-A5FD-8FAD@compuserve.com>            Yeah!  RFTFM!!!!!   3         Those strings must be passed by descriptor!   H         Sorry, I don't have an example at hand nor any time to code one.    0 Message text written by INTERNET:rmegee@tqtx.com: >It seems to work but nothing show up outside the program. here's what I did:   pass 1:          char mysymbol[11];!         char symvalue[]=3D"test";          long int status;	         . 	         . 	         . 5         status =3D lib$set_symbol(mysymbol,symvalue);    pass 2: 6         char insymbol[]=3D"mysymbol";                =  !         char symvalue[]=3D"test";          long int status;	         . 	         . 	         . 5         status =3D lib$set_symbol(insymbol,symvalue); 	         =   + neither caused an error but neither worked.   
 any ideas?   Thanks,<   ------------------------------  % Date: Tue, 23 May 2000 00:24:37 -04002- From: JF Mezei <jfmezei.spamnot@videotron.ca>eD Subject: Re: Anyone got an example of lib$set_symbol in a c program?, Message-ID: <392A0802.4A746DC6@videotron.ca>  2 > Message text written by INTERNET:rmegee@tqtx.com< > >It seems to work but nothing show up outside the program. > here's what I did: > 	 > pass 1:e >         char mysymbol[11];! >         char symvalue[]="test";  >         long int status;5 >         status = lib$set_symbol(mysymbol,symvalue);g     you need instead   #include descrip   $DESCRIPTOR(mysymbol,"SYMNAM");r' $DESCRIPTOR(myvalue,"value of symbol");. int status;  long table ;  3 status  lib$set_symbol(&mysymbol,&&myvalue,&table);n  L if you make table = 1, then it creates the symbol as a local symbol that mayJ not survive after your image has stopped executing. If you set it to 2, itL makes it a global symbol and it will survive after yoru program has finished  2 HELP RTL LIB LIB$SET_SYMBOL gives you all of this.   ------------------------------  % Date: Mon, 22 May 2000 22:50:59 +0100 . From: "Ian Sweeney" <Ian@isweeney.demon.co.uk> Subject: C5.7 vs C6.2b/ Message-ID: <9%hW4.14961$rv6.315166@news1-hme0>c  < Where can I get a list of differences between C5.7 and C6.2?   --K If you can help, or suggest somewhere else I should post this message, thenn please email me at Ian@isweeney.demon.co.uk Thanks,  Ian Sweeney * http://www.isweeney.demon.co.uk/index.html ICQ - 19354698   ------------------------------  # Date: Mon, 22 May 2000 22:44:38 GMT = From: system@SendSpamHere.ORG (Brian Schenkenberger, VAXman-)S Subject: Re: C5.7 vs C6.2S0 Message-ID: <009EA7A6.3F19912A@SendSpamHere.ORG>  ` In article <9%hW4.14961$rv6.315166@news1-hme0>, "Ian Sweeney" <Ian@isweeney.demon.co.uk> writes:= >Where can I get a list of differences between C5.7 and C6.2?S   Right here...  .50   --N VAXman- OpenVMS APE certification number: AAA-0001           VAXman@TMESIS.COM  L GNU Freeware -- What does the GNU *really* stand for?  Garbage!  Not Usable!   ------------------------------  % Date: Mon, 22 May 2000 18:30:23 -0700n5 From: "Larry D Bohan, Jr" <LBohan@dbc.spam_less..com>i Subject: Re: C5.7 vs C6.2 2 Message-ID: <294pOevmTqQWdQTu8ghpyQJMOD2N@4ax.com>  1 On Mon, 22 May 2000 22:50:59 +0100, "Ian Sweeney"n! <Ian@isweeney.demon.co.uk> wrote:n  = >Where can I get a list of differences between C5.7 and C6.2?e  5 http://www.openvms.digital.com/commercial/c/rnalp.htmo  = the release notes are in general cumulative, so keep reading t/ and you'll also find the chgs btw v5.7 and v6.0-   ------------------------------   Date: 23 May 2000 00:09:26 GMT From: <anonymous@abc.com> A Subject: chinese i-ching forecast anything  http://iching.126.com0+ Message-ID: <8gci7m$315h$488@news.cz.js.cn>o   provided forecast Fortune/Stock Exchange/Contract Signing/Partnership/Official/Sport Race/ Lawsuit / Weather/ Calamity   and more..... http://iching.126.com    ------------------------------  % Date: Tue, 23 May 2000 09:53:49 +1200a6 From: "Antony Wardle" <antony.wardle@nospam.met.co.nz> Subject: Corrupt zip files3 Message-ID: <ZYhW4.40338$PL4.862601@ozemail.com.au>h  " Any idea on how to fix this error?   Antony     Archive:  19991031.ZIP;1J warning 19991031.ZIP;1]:  extra 26804 bytes at beginning or within zipfile    (attempting to process anyway)7 file #0:  bad zipfile offset (local header sig):  26804i   (attempting to re-compensate)f    F UnZip 5.1 of 7 February 1994, by Info-ZIP.  Portions (c) 1989 by S. H. Smith.F Send bug reports to authors at zip-bugs@wkuvx1.wku.edu; see README for details.   ------------------------------  # Date: Tue, 23 May 2000 01:02:15 GMTu7 From: "David J. Dachtera" <djesys.nospam@earthlink.net>f Subject: Re: Corrupt zip filee- Message-ID: <3929D939.19B2F93A@earthlink.net>p   Antony Wardle wrote: > $ > Any idea on how to fix this error? >  > Antony >  > Archive:  19991031.ZIP;1L > warning 19991031.ZIP;1]:  extra 26804 bytes at beginning or within zipfile" >   (attempting to process anyway)9 > file #0:  bad zipfile offset (local header sig):  26804 ! >   (attempting to re-compensate)  > H > UnZip 5.1 of 7 February 1994, by Info-ZIP.  Portions (c) 1989 by S. H. > Smith.H > Send bug reports to authors at zip-bugs@wkuvx1.wku.edu; see README for
 > details.  ! If you can, re-download the file.o  B Also, you'll need V5.1-2 or later (minimum) to unpack OpenVMS .ZIPH archives with RMS attributes intact (if they were saved in the archive).  E The "current' UNZIP for OpenVMS is V5.4, but V5.32 works well enough.c You can get V5.3-2 at   , http://home.earthlink.net/~djesys/unzip.html  G This kit is VMSINSTALlable. A self extract stub for either VAX or Alpha & can be downloaded from that page also.   You can get UNZIP V5.4 ate  7 http://www2.wku.edu/scripts/fileserv/fileserv.com?UNZIPo   --   David J. Dachterao dba DJE Systemso" http://home.earthlink.net/~djesys/  : Unofficial Affordable OpenVMS Home Page and Message Board:+ http://home.earthlink.net/~djesys/vms/soho//   ------------------------------  % Date: Mon, 22 May 2000 21:20:16 -0400 - From: JF Mezei <jfmezei.spamnot@videotron.ca>y Subject: Re: Corrupt zip file:, Message-ID: <3929DCCD.15BA7BE5@videotron.ca>   Antony Wardle wrote: > Archive:  19991031.ZIP;1L > warning 19991031.ZIP;1]:  extra 26804 bytes at beginning or within zipfile" >   (attempting to process anyway)9 > file #0:  bad zipfile offset (local header sig):  26804r! >   (attempting to re-compensate)i > H > UnZip 5.1 of 7 February 1994, by Info-ZIP.  Portions (c) 1989 by S. H.    J Try to get a more recent UNZIP program. (I have 5.32 dated 1997, and do so. because 5.1 has problems with some zip files).  K Did you create the 1991031.zip yourself with the same utility ? If so, whath( does a DIR/FULL say about the zip file ?   ------------------------------    Date: 22 May 2000 19:56:06 -04004 From: "Robert Deininger" <rdeininger@mindspring.com>@ Subject: Re: Creating a new user using a system service...HOW???* Message-ID: <B54F4158-C10F@165.247.45.210>  K On Sat, May 20, 2000 8:56 PM, Howard S Shubs <hshubs@mindspring.com> wrote:r> >In article <B54C8BAC-6BD45@165.247.45.5>, "Robert Deininger" # ><rdeininger@mindspring.com> wrote:a > H >>Then, when "new" user entry is needed, a program could simply find andF >>modify the next available dummy user, without creating a new process >>to run authorize.e > F >Unfortunately, the program couldn't change the username, unless I am  >forgetting something.  H Yes, Carl's ghost woke me up and told me the same thing.  When I checkedG the system service docs, it turns out there is no SETUAI item to change1) the username.  You and Carl were correct.n  D The RENAME command in AUTHORIZE must be implemented via some by-hand trickery.  Rats.     ---------------------------n Robert Deininger rdeininger@mindspring.comn   ------------------------------  % Date: Mon, 22 May 2000 21:52:16 -0400,* From: David A Froble <davef@tsoft-inc.com>@ Subject: Re: Creating a new user using a system service...HOW???- Message-ID: <3929E450.E80A5D5A@tsoft-inc.com>h   Robert Deininger wrote:  > M > On Sat, May 20, 2000 8:56 PM, Howard S Shubs <hshubs@mindspring.com> wrote: ? > >In article <B54C8BAC-6BD45@165.247.45.5>, "Robert Deininger"S% > ><rdeininger@mindspring.com> wrote:i > >uJ > >>Then, when "new" user entry is needed, a program could simply find andH > >>modify the next available dummy user, without creating a new process > >>to run authorize.( > >rG > >Unfortunately, the program couldn't change the username, unless I am  > >forgetting something. > J > Yes, Carl's ghost woke me up and told me the same thing.  When I checkedI > the system service docs, it turns out there is no SETUAI item to changeD+ > the username.  You and Carl were correct.d > F > The RENAME command in AUTHORIZE must be implemented via some by-hand > trickery.  Rats. >  > ---------------------------i > Robert Deininger > rdeininger@mindspring.com   N Since the username is probably the primary key in a RMS indexed file, changingP the primary key requires that the record be moved.  In reality there is no move,H just a delete and an add.  So, if there is no mechanism for adding, then% definitely no mechinism for renaming.1   Dave   -- P4 David Froble                       Tel: 724-529-04504 Dave Froble Enterprises, Inc.      Fax: 724-529-0596; 170 Grimplin Road               E-Mail: davef@tsoft-inc.com  Vanderbilt, PA  154865   ------------------------------  % Date: Tue, 23 May 2000 00:12:31 -0400h- From: JF Mezei <jfmezei.spamnot@videotron.ca>9@ Subject: Re: Creating a new user using a system service...HOW???, Message-ID: <392A052B.9A425987@videotron.ca>  K Here is some info from an old ALL-IN-1 manual. Many of the "bit" fields arei7 broken down nto individual field at the all-in-1 level.e   UAI$    
   Description   9   UAI$ provides an ALL-IN-1 interface to the OpenVMS sys-E8   tem user authorization file, SYSUAF.DAT (UAF). You can=   use UAI$ to create, delete, read, and modify records in thev   UAF.  8   For more information, see the OpenVMS documentation on1   AUTHORIZE and on the $GETUAI and $SETUAI systemo   services.m       Fields  =   Table 8-22 lists the fields of the UAI$ DSAB. Most of thesen(   fields correspond to those of the UAF.       Keys of Reference   ?   You cannot specify a key of reference to this DSAB, as it al-S>   ways accesses data using the primary key of reference, which   is the USERNAME field.    
   Examples  8   The following example changes the OpenVMS password for'   the user whose account name is ROBIN:p  :   <WRITE CHANGE UAI$ USERNAME="ROBIN", PASSWORD="HOODWINK"  <   The following example returns the numeric UIC value of the   UAF entry for user MEYER:-     <GET UAI$.UIC["MEYER"]    ! Special Features and Restrictionsn  <   Table 8-23 shows the OpenVMS privileges that are necessary*   for any process that uses the UAI$ DSAB.  ;   If you use a WRITE statement to access more than one UAI$nB   field, and those fields reference the same field in the UAF, the@   last UAI$ field that you specify overrides the earlier fields.   For example:  )   WRITE CHANGE UAI$ USERNAME="DALGLIESH",e!    PRIVILEGES="0000000000108000", 
    BYPASS="1"'  8   The PRIVILEGES field value changes the value of the 35@   privilege fields, including the BYPASS field, so in this exam-B   ple, ALL-IN-1 modifies all the privilege fields, then resets the#   value of the BYPASS field to 1.  o    / Here are the some of the fields you can access:h    Table 8-22: UAI$ Fields  A   Field                          Type                 Descriptionc  J   USERNAME               String               User's OpenVMS account name. This is the A                                                         key field ;   OWNER                    String               User's nametH   ACCOUNT                 String               User's account identifierR   CLI                          String               Command interpreter to be usedM   CLITABLES                String               Command interpreter tables toi be used F   DEFDEV                    String               User's default deviceJ   DEFDIR                     String               User's default directoryK   LGICMD                    String               Name of the user's defaultk
 login commandc<                                                         file:   UIC                          Decimal number   User's UICA   UICMEMBER             Octal number       MEMBER part of the UICaB   UICGROUP                Octal number       GROUP part of the UICL   DISCTLY                    Binary flag         1 if user cannot use CTRL/YK   DEFCLI                     Binary flag         1 if user is restricted toe default CLIaO   LOCKPWD                 Binary flag         1 if user cannot use SET PASSWORD-N   RESTRICTED              Binary flag         1 if user cannot change defaults at loginM   DISUSER                   Binary flag         1 if user account is disabledaV   DISWELCOME            Binary flag         1 if user should not receive login welcome?                                                         messagetX   DISNEWMAIL             Binary flag         1 if announcement of new mail is suppressedV   DISMAIL                   Binary flag         1 if mail delivery to user is disabledU  DISMAIL                   Binary flag         1 if mail delivery to user is disabled U   GENPWD                   Binary flag         1 if user must use generated passwords M   PWD_EXPIRED           Binary flag         1 if primary password has expiredtO   PWD2_EXPIRED          Binary flag         1 if secondary password has expired S   AUDIT                      Binary flag         1 if all actions are to be audited K   DISREPORT                Binary flag         1 if user should not receivet last login mes- <                                                         sageI   DISRECONNECT          Binary flag         1 if user cannot reconnect to 
 existing pro-0>                                                         cessesH   AUTOLOGIN               Binary flag         1 if user is restricted to AUTOLOGIN onlyU   DISFORCE_PWD_         Binary flag         1 if user is not forced to change expired ;   CHANGE                                          passwordsyN   CAPTIVE                   Binary flag         1 if user's account is captiveL   DISIMAGE                  Binary flag         1 if user cannot execute the DCL commandsJ                                                         RUN or MCR, or use foreign commandsN   DISPWDDIC                Binary flag         1 if password dictionary search is disabledeW   DISPWDHIS                Binary flag         1 if password history search is disabledwS   FLAGS                      Decimal number   The above 20 flags as a single numbereK   MONDAY                   Binary flag         0 if Monday is a primary daygM   TUESDAY                   Binary flag         0 if Tuesday is a primary dayML   WEDNESDAY              Binary flag         0 if Wednesday is a primary day     etc etc etc etc etce   ------------------------------  % Date: Mon, 22 May 2000 20:08:34 +0200e> From: "Jean-Franois Marchal" <jean-francois.marchal@x9000.fr>A Subject: Re: DCL: how to get the name of the current subroutine ? 3 Message-ID: <8gbt02$2vcv$1@s2.feed.news.oleane.net>t  J "Brian Schenkenberger, VAXman-" <system@SendSpamHere.ORG> wrote in message* news:009EA75B.AFCF7C4E@SendSpamHere.ORG...D > In article <8gb8rb$2jhm$1@s2.feed.news.oleane.net>, "Jean-Franois1 Marchal" <jean-francois.marchal@x9000.fr> writes:m > > E > >Is it possible to get the name of the DCL subroutine I'm executing L > >like f$environment("PROCEDURE") gives me the name of the main procedure ? > >Any DCL hack available ?d > A > http://www.tmesis.com/SYMBOL/using/PREVIOUS_PROCEDURE_NAME.COM;u >n) > (This is "REAL" programming using DCL!)  >h/ I was sure that symbol could give some help ...o= (Is there anything SYMBOL cannpt do for a DCL programmer ?-))a   Mercie
 Jean-Franois    ------------------------------  # Date: Mon, 22 May 2000 18:58:46 GMT-= From: system@SendSpamHere.ORG (Brian Schenkenberger, VAXman-)oA Subject: Re: DCL: how to get the name of the current subroutine ?e0 Message-ID: <009EA786.B1A97BCB@SendSpamHere.ORG>  t In article <8gbt02$2vcv$1@s2.feed.news.oleane.net>, "Jean-Franois Marchal" <jean-francois.marchal@x9000.fr> writes: >2K >"Brian Schenkenberger, VAXman-" <system@SendSpamHere.ORG> wrote in message + >news:009EA75B.AFCF7C4E@SendSpamHere.ORG... E >> In article <8gb8rb$2jhm$1@s2.feed.news.oleane.net>, "Jean-Franoisn2 >Marchal" <jean-francois.marchal@x9000.fr> writes: >> >F >> >Is it possible to get the name of the DCL subroutine I'm executingM >> >like f$environment("PROCEDURE") gives me the name of the main procedure ?" >> >Any DCL hack available ? >>B >> http://www.tmesis.com/SYMBOL/using/PREVIOUS_PROCEDURE_NAME.COM; >>* >> (This is "REAL" programming using DCL!) >>0 >I was sure that symbol could give some help ...> >(Is there anything SYMBOL cannpt do for a DCL programmer ?-))  E Write your programs for you is about the only thing I can think of at) the moment!   : Seriously, any features you like to see, just let me know.  C One thing I was thinking of adding is a "user written lexical" type0E feature which would permit users possessing the privies CMEXEC and/orcA CMKRNL to access (for read-only) areas of the executive which aresE protected from outer mode accesses.  Then you could write system pro-N
 grams in DCL.q   --N VAXman- OpenVMS APE certification number: AAA-0001           VAXman@TMESIS.COM  L GNU Freeware -- What does the GNU *really* stand for?  Garbage!  Not Usable!   ------------------------------  % Date: Tue, 23 May 2000 00:54:40 -0400b2 From: "Richard B. Gilbert" <DRAGON@compuserve.com>= Subject: DCL: how to get the name of the current subroutine ?v7 Message-ID: <200005230054_MC2-A610-8141@compuserve.com>   -         What problem are you trying to solve?f  C $ CALL MUMBLE           ! You know what subroutine you are calling!m $ ....B $MUMBLE:        SUBROUTINE      ! You know what subroutine you are
 executing!   or $ SUB_NAME:=3D=3DMUMBLEr $ CALL 'SUB_NAME'g    . Message text written by "Jean-Franois Marchal" >Bonjour =E0 tous !   B Is it possible to get the name of the DCL subroutine I'm executingJ like f$environment("PROCEDURE") gives me the name of the main procedure ?=   Any DCL hack available ? <5   ------------------------------  ! Date: Tue, 23 May 00 02:24:56 GMTa- From: gudehus@mindspring.com (Donald Gudehus)e Subject: Free TK50 tapes/ Message-ID: <gudehus.1309436336B@192.245.173.3>n   Hello,  D I have almost 100 free slightly used TK50 cassettes.  I live in the 0 Atlanta area, but will be moving to Oregon soon.   Donald  N ******************************************************************************             Donald H. Gudehus             s0             gudehus (.nospam.) @ chara. gsu. edu6             dgudehu (.nospam.) @ emrycc. cc.emory. edu7             gudehus (.nospam.) @ mindspring. com (home)a         =             Remove (.nospam.) and whitespace when responding.   9             Web page:  http://www.chara.gsu.edu/~gudehus/V   ------------------------------  % Date: Mon, 22 May 2000 15:25:48 -0400G! From: Dan Allen <dallen@nist.gov>-* Subject: FW: Windows 98 Vs. Windows NT 4.0: Message-ID: <NEBBIALHDHJMJINPGMOAKEICCCAA.dallen@nist.gov>   -----Original Message-----9 From: Michael D. Ober [mailto:mdo.@.wakeassoc.com.nospam]o" Sent: Monday, May 22, 2000 3:04 PM To: Info-VAX@Mvb.Saic.Comi* Subject: Re: Windows 98 Vs. Windows NT 4.0    G Platform is probably not the best word.  Take a look at the NT Hardwaret@ Compatibility List and you will see there are a lot of differentJ makes/models of systems that NT is "certified" on.  For NT 3.51, I countedK roughly 1,000 entries in the base CPU list.  I haven't counted Windows NT 4mH or 2000 - never got bored enough to do it again.  Never mind variants ofF hard drives, SCSI interfaces, etc.  MS claims NT will run on all theseL systems, yet some are of such poor quality they are only useful as oversizedJ door stops.  The point is still that it is very easy to make a rock stableL platform if you have good hardware and control over that hardware.  It's not3 so easy to do it if you don't control the hardware.   H As for the demise of NT on Alpha and PowerPC processors, it was simply aL case of marketing and technology not being in sync.  It's very hard to writeH to multiple processor families and without market share, it's simply notH profitable.  When MS was promoting NT on non-Intel based processors, theI best Intel had was the 486 and the Alpha was hand's down a superior chip.fH High end Alpha's are probably still superior to high end Pentium III andK Xeons.  The PowerPC port was done during the MS/IBM breakup and was a major J reason that the PowerPC never really got off the ground - IBM couldn't getG OS/2 ported and they didn't want NT as the only OS for it.  Also, don'ttD forget the MIPS processor port which died after NT 3.5.  None of theH non-Intel ports got the support of the third party market they needed to stay viable.  H And yes, Compaq and HP did put a money-back guarantee on their NT serverL reliability, if you let them do all the configuration.  I don't know if they' still do, but it was there at one time.t  
 Mike Ober.    @ "Christopher Smith" <chriss@Mufasa.pubserv.com> wrote in messageC news:Pine.LNX.4.05.10005221532380.7799-100000@Mufasa.pubserv.com...b& > On Mon, 22 May 2000, it was written: >lL > > underlying hardware was complete garbage.  The hardware platform must beL > > rock stable to guarantee uptime, for any OS.  Starting with the originalI > > release of NT 3.1, I have crashed a total of 6 times - 3 with NT 3.1,t and2K > > one each with NT 3.5, NT 3.51, and NT 4, and none so far with Win2K (NTe 5).nF > > For an OS that runs on over a thousand different platforms, that's prettyI > > stable.  The only time I reboot my NT/2000 system at home is when the  >t7 > Here's where I begin to question your authenticity...  > J > I'd expect microsoft to claim something rediculous like "NT runs on overJ > 1000 different platforms," but I never thought I'd hear that from anyone
 > else. :) >e9 > Please tell me what deffinition you use for "platform."o >2K > Last I heard NT would theoretically run on intel, alpha, and powerpc, butu3 > no longer practically on either alpha or powerpc.5 >BH > I count three in a best case, and there's only one that I'd recognise. >n
 > Regards, >1 > Chris  >0 >yL ============================================================================ === @ > "My two cents" (http://rootworks.com/twocentsworth.cgi?128562)= > Christopher Smith(chriss@pubserv.com) Prgramer^W ProgrammerI! > Prime Synergy of Champaign, IL. ' > -------------------------------------IK > "Where a calculator on the ENIAC is equipped with 18,000 vacuum tubes andsJ > weighs 30 tons, computers in the future may have only 1,000 vacuum tubes< > and weigh only 1.5 tons." -- Popular Mechanics, March 1949L > -------------------------------------------------------------------------- -----d >i >r   ------------------------------  % Date: Mon, 22 May 2000 15:57:05 -0400.! From: Dan Allen <dallen@nist.gov>1* Subject: FW: Windows 98 Vs. Windows NT 4.0: Message-ID: <NEBBIALHDHJMJINPGMOAAEIECCAA.dallen@nist.gov>  I  My apologies for the previous errant post.  All rants and raves about NTn shortcomings andD  Arne's "no NT here" assertions not withstanding it's nice to hear a- balanced opinion from a long time     VMS'er.iL  Fact: the same flammage was used by this group to address the virtues (lack there of) of Unixg        15 years agosG  Fact: Unix despite all of the above moved forward, sold, improved, ande became THE major player in        the game today.H  Near Fact: Windows NT is in exactly the same spot as Unix 15 years ago, with a FAR greaterE             penetration into the Harry Homeowner market.  It IS a VMS- repackaged circa V1.2.E             + Internet support which is still languishing in OVMS 8-(nI  Conclusion: You will be assimilated (from a man who still has VMS on his  desktop (alongside an NT Box)aH              and who cut his teeth on VMS V1 and HATES commands like ls, grep, awk, sed ...)DJ  Wishfull Thought: Somebody could ressurect NT on ALPHA, superior hardware is a terrible thing to waste.d  L  Disclaimer: This message posted from a x86 WNT system - do not install withE priv's any enclosed 			  binaries nor run them with privs on your VMSu! system's - BAD THINGS MAY HAPPEN.s     -----Original Message-----9 From: Michael D. Ober [mailto:mdo.@.wakeassoc.com.nospam] " Sent: Monday, May 22, 2000 3:04 PM To: Info-VAX@Mvb.Saic.Comu* Subject: Re: Windows 98 Vs. Windows NT 4.0    G Platform is probably not the best word.  Take a look at the NT Hardware @ Compatibility List and you will see there are a lot of differentJ makes/models of systems that NT is "certified" on.  For NT 3.51, I countedK roughly 1,000 entries in the base CPU list.  I haven't counted Windows NT 4lH or 2000 - never got bored enough to do it again.  Never mind variants ofF hard drives, SCSI interfaces, etc.  MS claims NT will run on all theseL systems, yet some are of such poor quality they are only useful as oversizedJ door stops.  The point is still that it is very easy to make a rock stableL platform if you have good hardware and control over that hardware.  It's not3 so easy to do it if you don't control the hardware.   H As for the demise of NT on Alpha and PowerPC processors, it was simply aL case of marketing and technology not being in sync.  It's very hard to writeH to multiple processor families and without market share, it's simply notH profitable.  When MS was promoting NT on non-Intel based processors, theI best Intel had was the 486 and the Alpha was hand's down a superior chip. H High end Alpha's are probably still superior to high end Pentium III andK Xeons.  The PowerPC port was done during the MS/IBM breakup and was a majorlJ reason that the PowerPC never really got off the ground - IBM couldn't getG OS/2 ported and they didn't want NT as the only OS for it.  Also, don'tlD forget the MIPS processor port which died after NT 3.5.  None of theH non-Intel ports got the support of the third party market they needed to stay viable.  H And yes, Compaq and HP did put a money-back guarantee on their NT serverL reliability, if you let them do all the configuration.  I don't know if they' still do, but it was there at one time.   
 Mike Ober.    @ "Christopher Smith" <chriss@Mufasa.pubserv.com> wrote in messageC news:Pine.LNX.4.05.10005221532380.7799-100000@Mufasa.pubserv.com... & > On Mon, 22 May 2000, it was written: > L > > underlying hardware was complete garbage.  The hardware platform must beL > > rock stable to guarantee uptime, for any OS.  Starting with the originalI > > release of NT 3.1, I have crashed a total of 6 times - 3 with NT 3.1,  and K > > one each with NT 3.5, NT 3.51, and NT 4, and none so far with Win2K (NTc 5).nF > > For an OS that runs on over a thousand different platforms, that's prettyI > > stable.  The only time I reboot my NT/2000 system at home is when ther >h7 > Here's where I begin to question your authenticity...e >eJ > I'd expect microsoft to claim something rediculous like "NT runs on overJ > 1000 different platforms," but I never thought I'd hear that from anyone
 > else. :) >09 > Please tell me what deffinition you use for "platform."l >cK > Last I heard NT would theoretically run on intel, alpha, and powerpc, buto3 > no longer practically on either alpha or powerpc.i >eH > I count three in a best case, and there's only one that I'd recognise. >t
 > Regards, >f > Chris  >  >eL ============================================================================ === @ > "My two cents" (http://rootworks.com/twocentsworth.cgi?128562)= > Christopher Smith(chriss@pubserv.com) Prgramer^W Programmer ! > Prime Synergy of Champaign, IL. ' > -------------------------------------SK > "Where a calculator on the ENIAC is equipped with 18,000 vacuum tubes and J > weighs 30 tons, computers in the future may have only 1,000 vacuum tubes< > and weigh only 1.5 tons." -- Popular Mechanics, March 1949L > -------------------------------------------------------------------------- -----  >  >    ------------------------------  # Date: Tue, 23 May 2000 04:32:01 GMTS0 From: "Terry C. Shannon" <shannon@world.std.com>+ Subject: Re: Gartner commentary on WildfireN& Message-ID: <FuzwJv.7nM@world.std.com>  7 "Art Rice" <arice.NOcSPAM@ue.itug.org> wrote in message 2 news:i9miis89p089u08m63uhgh1btu6uvprm0a@4ax.com...6 > On Sat, 20 May 2000 14:57:37 GMT, "Terry C. Shannon"  > <shannon@world.std.com> wrote: >  > > = > >"JF Mezei" <jfmezei.spamnot@videotron.ca> wrote in message ) > >news:3925E505.BB888F82@videotron.ca...r > >> Art Rice wrote:H > >> > At least "they" printed OpenVMS an equal number of times as Tru64 > >>L > >> Yeah, but Capellas placed Himalaya at the centre of the internet during > >theD > >> Wildfire unveiling and didn't really place wildfire on his map. > > H > >As well he should have, since CPQ's proposition is that NonStop stuff( > >belongs at the heart of the Internet.D > I thought that Compaq was trying to market some of the OpenVMS and- > Tru64 product line as NonStop "Stuff" also.  > K > >> Since you seem to be from the Tandem side, I am curous as to what sortt ofK > >> impact the Wildfire products have had on Tandem customers' opinions ofm > >Compaq ?t > >rF > >Since WildFire doesn't run NSK, the announcement should have little directH > >impact on the Tandem base. Their interest is more likely to be in the AlphasA > >chip, since the Himalaya line will get Alpha-betized in ~2003.  > ? > To my knowledge, only the S-series systems. (time to upgrade)y >aJ > >> Do Tandem customers have the same types of doubts as to the future ofB > >> Gardian/Himalaya as do VMS customers seriously doubt Compaq's
 commitment > >ton
 > >> VMS ? > >1I > >Judging by year-over-year growth in Himalaya sales, and the recent S74 H > >announcement, and growth in the ITUG user group base, apparently not. > > L > >And it would appear that the serious doubt of CPQ's commitment to OpenVMS is! > >not a universally-held belief.O > > E > Agreed.  I believe that the (15yr?) commitment to the DII-COE is annC > automatic commitment to not only maintain OpenVMS but continuallye
 > improve it.i  L Amen, brother, and perhaps DII-COE will stifle some of the recurrent "VMS isF Dead and It's Bob Palmer's Fault" whining that plagues this newsgroup.   Which would be nice.   ------------------------------  % Date: Tue, 23 May 2000 01:36:30 -0400 ' From: "Bill Todd" <billtodd@foo.mv.com> + Subject: Re: Gartner commentary on WildfireP( Message-ID: <8gd58a$as3$1@pyrite.mv.net>  9 Terry C. Shannon <shannon@world.std.com> wrote in message   news:FuzwJv.7nM@world.std.com... >a9 > "Art Rice" <arice.NOcSPAM@ue.itug.org> wrote in message 4 > news:i9miis89p089u08m63uhgh1btu6uvprm0a@4ax.com...   ...   <   I believe that the (15yr?) commitment to the DII-COE is anE > > automatic commitment to not only maintain OpenVMS but continuallyd > > improve it.a > K > Amen, brother, and perhaps DII-COE will stifle some of the recurrent "VMS  isH > Dead and It's Bob Palmer's Fault" whining that plagues this newsgroup. >0 > Which would be nice.  L Only if your desire is that VMS be allowed to rest in peace.  My guess wouldB be that most of the people who fear VMS is dead are referring to aD persistent vegetative state rather than asserting that the corpse isH actually cold (or even in any danger of becoming cold in the foreseeable future).  J Anyone who just wants their current VMS installation to be supported for aI good long time likely has little to fear.  Now, if the DII-COE commitmenttL actually *does* require continuing improvement to a degree that would ensureD continued competitiveness in a free market, *that* is worthy of some) celebration (if it can be substantiated).u   - bill   ------------------------------  % Date: Mon, 22 May 2000 18:40:57 -0500h* From: Keith Brown <kbrown780@usfamily.net> Subject: Re: Hangs on HSZ70M, Message-ID: <3929C589.E724F12E@usfamily.net>   Mike Price wrote:  > > > We have an Alpha 4100 running VMS 7.1-2. The disks are on anA > HSZ70 as 1 big stripe set and 3 other mirrored disks i.e. 4 VMSo; > disks in total. One of the mirrorsets is the system disk.t > B > We had SWCC running but I also use SET HO/SCSI to connect to the> > disk and check them out. This enables me to have a batch job> > running to keep an eye on the disk and link into our central( > problem systems via the normal route.. > A > At the end of last year we suffered  2 or 3 hangs where all therB > HSZ70 disks went into host unavailable state. As one of these isB > the system disk this effectivly hung the whole system. The disks@ > seemed to be coming back available after a while but then went > again soon after.D > B > The problem was analysed by Digital who changed a cable. As this@ > didn't seem to fix the problem I stopped the SWCC software and< > forced myself to be less paranoid about checking the disks, > myself as often. Since then - no problems.= > However, I would like to start the SWCC stuff up again so IeB > would like to know if anyone else has seen something like this -@ > or if anyone knows whether using SET HO/SCSI and SWCC together > is a problem >  > Thanks in advance  >  > Mike > N > * Sent from RemarQ http://www.remarq.com The Internet's Discussion Network *I > The fastest and easiest way to search and participate in Usenet - Free!   = I was just considering adding SWCC to my ES40 with HSZ70s buto now you have frightened me!r -- n Keith Brown  kbrown780@usfamily.net   ------------------------------  % Date: Tue, 23 May 2000 07:23:10 +0200h> From: "Jean-Franois Marchal" <jean-francois.marchal@x9000.fr>< Subject: Re: how to get the name of the current subroutine ?2 Message-ID: <8gd4h0$i9a$1@s2.feed.news.oleane.net>  E In your fist proposal, something like f$environment("SUBROUTINE") ...   = "Richard B. Gilbert" <DRAGON@compuserve.com> wrote in message 1 news:200005230054_MC2-A610-8141@compuserve.com...M-         What problem are you trying to solve?a  C $ CALL MUMBLE           ! You know what subroutine you are calling!u $ ....B $MUMBLE:        SUBROUTINE      ! You know what subroutine you are
 executing!   or $ SUB_NAME:==MUMBLE- $ CALL 'SUB_NAME'B    . Message text written by "Jean-Franois Marchal" >Bonjour  tous !i  B Is it possible to get the name of the DCL subroutine I'm executingI like f$environment("PROCEDURE") gives me the name of the main procedure ?- Any DCL hack available ? <    ------------------------------   Date: 22 May 2000 22:13:30 GMT! From: j1234@sfsu.savemydomain.edu- Subject: Re: KOffice -> OVMS?5* Message-ID: <8gcbea$1d7ff$1@hades.csu.net>   Dirk Munk <munk@home.nl> wrote:i  J > I agree, it would be great to have a VMS office suite. Wish I could help6 > out with this project, but I'm not familiar with C++  A That doesn't mean that you can not be of any help.  Can you write = documentation?  Can you bug/function test?  Borrowing from a h6 Red Cross commercial, there are lots of parts to play.   jeremy   ------------------------------  % Date: Mon, 22 May 2000 16:15:50 -0400h' From: "Zeni B. Schleter" <zzb@ornl.gov> ; Subject: Re: Limiting Decnet Phase IV access with VMS 7.1-2-( Message-ID: <39299575.42FB5BCF@ornl.gov>  L Our Decw$bookshelf definitions were way out of date but the current CDs wereD available and with some twiddling , I was able to see what I needed.  I I have reviewed the Decnet Phase IV Doc  looking for "default access" andaM found my misunderstanding.  To me Default Access of none in the NCP Executive.J characteristics meant that no connections would be access.  Default accessK refers to connections initiated without Username/password or  proxy access.uI The example was "Set Host".    Various combinations are making more sense"" now.  Thanks to all who responded.   Robert Deininger wrote:n  G > On Fri, May 19, 2000 11:44 AM, Zeni B. Schleter <zzb@ornl.gov> wrote:o > F > >I have been searching the VMS docset. Found no reference to DEFAULTK > >ACCESS. I can't find an old Decnet Phase IV manual.  I suspect I cleaned C > >it out thinking that newer ones would come with the VMS docsets.t > I > Our VMS 7.1 Documentation CD (label OVMSDOC071) has the DECnet Phase IV I > manuals on it.  Surely you didn't clean that out yet.  The decnet stuff 5 > is in a separate bookshelf, not the main VMS shelf.  >A > ---------------------------  > Robert Deininger > rdeininger@mindspring.comt   ------------------------------  # Date: Mon, 22 May 2000 22:56:47 GMTa9 From: Kilgallen@eisner.decus.org.nospam (Larry Kilgallen) ; Subject: Re: Limiting Decnet Phase IV access with VMS 7.1-2I+ Message-ID: <o4IhmTxo50Zi@eisner.decus.org>   R In article <39299575.42FB5BCF@ornl.gov>, "Zeni B. Schleter" <zzb@ornl.gov> writes:N > Our Decw$bookshelf definitions were way out of date but the current CDs wereF > available and with some twiddling , I was able to see what I needed. > K > I have reviewed the Decnet Phase IV Doc  looking for "default access" andoO > found my misunderstanding.  To me Default Access of none in the NCP ExecutivenL > characteristics meant that no connections would be access.  Default accessM > refers to connections initiated without Username/password or  proxy access. K > The example was "Set Host".    Various combinations are making more sense $ > now.  Thanks to all who responded.  < No, it does not.  Quite possibly the documentation is wrong.  E SET EXECUTOR DEFAULT ACCESS NONE is supposed to prevent access to anyaI node not explicitly enabled with SET <nodename> ACCESS <other-than-none>.i  ' Another poster said OPER will override.w   ------------------------------   Date: 22 May 2000 21:01:46 GMT& From: Cthulhu <cthulhu@kadath.deep.it>( Subject: Re: MicroVAX, MS and RD53 disks( Message-ID: <8gc77q$mn$1@kadath.deep.it>  + Adrian Lumsden <A.Lumsden@xdt.co.uk> wrote:f  < > to a 3600 (change CPU and memory). It's a bit smaller than > an RD54 isn't it?r  0 Well, the RD53 is still in the VAX, but maybe...  % > Mine is conected to an Emulex QD01.  > I didn't try it on an RQDX3.  5 Ok, at least I know what controller to search for. :)t   	connecting, 	   Cthulhus   -- N  G        Ph'nglui mglw'nafh Cthulhu http://www.rlyeh.it wgah'nagl fhtgan!h% 		       <cthulhu at flashnet dot it>e   ------------------------------    Date: 22 May 2000 23:58:07 -0500' From: Tony Davis <tony@statmonitor.com>h@ Subject: Network Fault Tolerance and also Interconnect Protocols8 Message-ID: <hk2kiso8i2ino95caio0a0td1buu8grasl@4ax.com>   Hello,  F I need some assistance. I was recently put in charge in setting up our< network and I was hoping someone could steer me in the right( direction. Here is what I will be doing.  E I received 4 AlphaServer DS20E's with two DE600 10/100 NIC in each ofrD them along with a 24 disk array unit. Each system will have a 500mhz CPU and 512 meg ram.  F Two of the systems will be clustered together via scsi interconnect or@ whatever would be the best and in turn will run one application.  ? Another  DSE20E will be slave server for the application on thes cluster.  ; The last DS20E will be a stand-alone server running another- application.  E We will be running OpenVMS 7.1-2, since our applications haven't been A thoroughly tested on version 7.2-1, and also Pathworks, I believeFC the Advanced Server. I haven't received the software in so I am notI% for sure which version of Pathworks.    A I know that the DE600 NIC's support Network Fault Tolerance but ImE can't find any literature explaining how to configure it. Can someone B direct me in the right direction as far as literature or give me a brief understanding about it?r  F Will each card have to be configured with the same ip address for this& to work? What other options are there?  B What we want to do is have the system redirect its output from one' card to another if the first one fails.i  C Last thing, What would the best configuration for a cluster. I read B about CI, SCSI, FDDI and the others but I don't know what would be? best for us. I want something that is fast with very little CPU @ overhead? We will be servicing parts of Texas and Mexico via WAN- so I need something that is fast and furious.o   Thank you for your time.   Tony   ------------------------------   Date: 22 May 2000 19:42:30 GMT2 From: hoffman@xdelta.zko.dec.nospam (Hoff Hoffman), Subject: OpenVMS, and PowerStorm 300 and 3505 Message-ID: <8gc2j6$dh$1@mailint03.im.hou.compaq.com>   D   The OpenVMS graphics device driver kit for the PowerStorm 300 and A   PowerStorm 350 series graphics controllers is now available forT   OpenVMS Alpha V7.2-1:-  8     ftp://ftp.service.digital.com/public/vms/axp/v7.2-1/*       dec-axpvms-vms721_p350-v0100--4.html  N  --------------------------- pure personal opinion ---------------------------L    Hoff (Stephen) Hoffman   OpenVMS Engineering   hoffman#xdelta.zko.dec.com   ------------------------------  % Date: Tue, 23 May 2000 11:33:32 +1200a6 From: "Antony Wardle" <antony.wardle@nospam.met.co.nz>/ Subject: Re: Prob w/DCPS 1.7,HP4050, and HPGL/2s3 Message-ID: <qqjW4.40385$PL4.862784@ozemail.com.au>   . Maybe you need to add the file extension into:  5 sys$library:DCPS$FILE_EXTENSION_DATA_TYPE.DAT_DEFAULTa    0 What version of tcp/ip services are you running?   Antony      0 "Jethro Bodine" <Me@nospam.com> wrote in message6 news:Me-0C67C5.11531222052000@svlnews.lmms.lmco.com...	 > Hi All,t >mH > We just received a new HP4050 (nice printer). The problem is, however,I > that when we try to print files that contain HPGL/2 and PCL commands to F > the printer using DCPS (v1.7 on OpenVMS Alpha 7.1), the printer justE > prints out the HPGL/2 commands as text (the printer responds to PCLcC > commands correctly).  The files print out perfectly on HP5M's and E > HP5si's using DCPS, and also print out just fine on the HP4050 whenl% > printing using the TELNET symbiont.' >o5 > Any ideas on the cause and solution of the problem?l >u	 > Thanks,i > -J   ------------------------------  # Date: Tue, 23 May 2000 01:57:26 GMTa5 From: "Lorraine Profeta RR" <lprofeta@houston.rr.com>l> Subject: Re: problem linking to ucx$ipc.olb on AXP/VMX71-UCX407 Message-ID: <aAlW4.1992$X9.51186@typhoon.austin.rr.com>t  ) On OpenVMS 7.1 the library is ucx$lib.olb3   ------------------------------  # Date: Tue, 23 May 2000 01:57:26 GMTe5 From: "Lorraine Profeta RR" <lprofeta@houston.rr.com>P> Subject: Re: problem linking to ucx$ipc.olb on AXP/VMX71-UCX407 Message-ID: <aAlW4.1993$X9.51186@typhoon.austin.rr.com>i  ) On OpenVMS 7.1 the library is ucx$lib.olbe   ------------------------------  % Date: Mon, 22 May 2000 10:55:45 -0700 0 From: Rick Millhollin <rickm@OREGON.UOREGON.EDU> Subject: RADIUS for VMSm8 Message-ID: <00fe01bfc416$f477f4d0$0b20df80@uoregon.edu>  J I believe I have seen mention on this list of RADIUS for VMS.  Can anybody* give me a pointer to more info?  Thanks...  < Rick Millhollin, Assistant Director for Computing FacilitiesA University of Oregon, Computing Center, Eugene, Oregon 97403-12125I E-mail: rickm@oregon.uoregon.edu  Phone: (541)346-1730  FAX:(541)346-4397h   ------------------------------    Date: 22 May 2000 13:00:26 -0700( From: Javier Henderson <javier@kjsl.com> Subject: Re: RADIUS for VMSh- Message-ID: <86itw6tkx1.fsf@cartero.kjsl.com>n  2 Rick Millhollin <rickm@OREGON.UOREGON.EDU> writes:  L > I believe I have seen mention on this list of RADIUS for VMS.  Can anybody, > give me a pointer to more info?  Thanks...  > 	Joel Snyder wrote one, it used to live at their www.opus1.com+ site, but a casual browsing didn't find it.n   	Worth checking there, though.   -jav   ------------------------------  + Date: Mon, 22 May 2000 14:18:30 -0600 (MDT) ) From: John Nebel <nebel@ATHENA.CSDCO.COM>t Subject: Re: RADIUS for VMS G Message-ID: <Pine.OSF.4.21.0005221417390.13396-100000@athena.csdco.com>=  5 see www.radiusvms.com for a port of Livingston Radiuso  
 John Nebel    + On Mon, 22 May 2000, Rick Millhollin wrote:   L > I believe I have seen mention on this list of RADIUS for VMS.  Can anybody, > give me a pointer to more info?  Thanks... > > > Rick Millhollin, Assistant Director for Computing FacilitiesC > University of Oregon, Computing Center, Eugene, Oregon 97403-1212eK > E-mail: rickm@oregon.uoregon.edu  Phone: (541)346-1730  FAX:(541)346-4397- >  >  >  >    ------------------------------  % Date: Tue, 23 May 2000 00:29:14 +0400-+ From: "Ruslan R. Laishev" <laishev@dls.net>  Subject: Re: RADIUS for VMS"? Message-ID: <qIgW4.16863$681.370841@news-east.usenetserver.com>f    Hi !s  K     There is a several ports of Livngston RADIUS : 1.16,2.01, and so on,ando one TACACS server.L     The RADIUS-VMS it's far from original code as wintoze from VMS, and it's! supported and actively developed.n       John Nebel wrote in message ...F >z > 6 >see www.radiusvms.com for a port of Livingston Radius >9 >John Nebel8 >i >t, >On Mon, 22 May 2000, Rick Millhollin wrote: > E >> I believe I have seen mention on this list of RADIUS for VMS.  Cana anybodyp- >> give me a pointer to more info?  Thanks...r >>? >> Rick Millhollin, Assistant Director for Computing FacilitiesiD >> University of Oregon, Computing Center, Eugene, Oregon 97403-1212L >> E-mail: rickm@oregon.uoregon.edu  Phone: (541)346-1730  FAX:(541)346-4397     --I + C U, SysMan at DLS ...................................................+eG  http://www.radiusvms.com         |             Cel:  +7 (901) 971-3222 G  http://www.levitte.org/~rlaishev |             Fax:  +7 (812) 115-1035 I + Flying by Su-27........................................ Frying on VMS +l   ------------------------------  % Date: Mon, 22 May 2000 19:22:00 -0400c# From: sol gongola <sol@adldata.com>i Subject: Re: RADIUS for VMSl' Message-ID: <3929C118.213D@adldata.com>l  ! http://www.levitte.org/~rlaishev/ + http://www.opus1.com/o/software_radius.htmlt   sol gongolay > L > I believe I have seen mention on this list of RADIUS for VMS.  Can anybody, > give me a pointer to more info?  Thanks... > > > Rick Millhollin, Assistant Director for Computing FacilitiesC > University of Oregon, Computing Center, Eugene, Oregon 97403-1212 K > E-mail: rickm@oregon.uoregon.edu  Phone: (541)346-1730  FAX:(541)346-4397    ------------------------------  % Date: Mon, 22 May 2000 19:50:54 -0500S) From: "John E. Malmberg" <wb8tyw@qsl.net> $ Subject: Re: SKC's OpenVMS Viewpoint. Message-ID: <sijl4muno1174@corp.supernews.com>  9 Terry C. Shannon <shannon@world.std.com> wrote in message   news:FuyyH1.IJz@world.std.com... >r< > "Tom Wade" <t.wade@vms.eurokom.ie.nospam> wrote in message( > news:aHbW4.234$mq.16785@news.iol.ie... > >sG > > Agreed.  Anyone know who the "significant NT to VMS migration" is ?- > >a3 > The VA (Veterans Adminstration) in the DC area...d  8 You mean to say Dr. Watson has lost hospital privileges?   ------------------------------  # Date: Mon, 22 May 2000 21:06:08 GMT<- From: "Richard D. Piccard" <piccard@ohio.edu>F: Subject: Re: Tape Data Recovery (was Re: Need urgent help)( Message-ID: <3929A12C.303BA833@ohio.edu>   Hoff,u  H 	Can you provide any enlightenment as to the reasoning that produced theH crippled customer firmware in these modern drives?  It doesn't take muchG  of an inclination toward conspiracy theory to lead to speculation thatr> DEC did it, and Compaq continues it, in order to make business- opportunities for the data recovery people.  u  @ 	It should not be all that hard to have the drive switch over toF read-only as soon as you give the set magtape command to skip over the Logical End of Tape.    F 	Letting the customer recover promptly from a common human error seems# like a very much nicer thing to do!c   				RDPn     Hoff Hoffman wrote:g >  [snip] > 9 >   Somebody wrote an EOT where they should not have, eh?M > G >   The firmware used in various tape drives cannot and will not permitrF >   tape positioning past the EOT marker.  A data recovery service canI >   be (and often is) required to recover from errant tape initializationeK >   operations -- somebody that has special firmware loaded into the drive.u > P >  --------------------------- pure personal opinion ---------------------------N >    Hoff (Stephen) Hoffman   OpenVMS Engineering   hoffman#xdelta.zko.dec.com   --  B ==================================================================B Dick Piccard                           Academic Technology ManagerB piccard@ohio.edu                                 Computer ServicesB http://oak.cats.ohiou.edu/~piccard/                Ohio University   ------------------------------  % Date: Mon, 22 May 2000 15:04:31 -0400 & From: Jon Kreisler <jon@mac.lover.org>$ Subject: TCP/IP SNA Gateway Solution4 Message-ID: <p04310102b54f0f1c16b8@[132.228.83.220]>  
 Hello All,C Is anyone using a TCP/IP based SNA gateway for a VAX, or know of a h currently available solution?tF I am currently running a DECNet SNA Gateway-CT (the pre-Domain model.)D My network group wants to eliminate DECNet over the WAN. I need the D RJE and PRE software, running on a VAX OpenVMS system. (The gateway  is non-local.)> Please email to me directly and I will summarize for the list:= mailto:jon@mac.lover.org&subject=Re:%20SNA%20Gateway%20TCP/IP   
 Thank you, Jon  -- i Jon Kreisler Mac and OpenVMS specialist <mailto://jon@mac.lover.org>   ------------------------------  # Date: Mon, 22 May 2000 22:52:50 GMTi9 From: Kilgallen@eisner.decus.org.nospam (Larry Kilgallen)e( Subject: Re: TCP/IP SNA Gateway Solution+ Message-ID: <gPF$Gm8Ksojm@eisner.decus.org>a  ] In article <p04310102b54f0f1c16b8@[132.228.83.220]>, Jon Kreisler <jon@mac.lover.org> writes:k > Hello All,E > Is anyone using a TCP/IP based SNA gateway for a VAX, or know of a a > currently available solution? H > I am currently running a DECNet SNA Gateway-CT (the pre-Domain model.)F > My network group wants to eliminate DECNet over the WAN. I need the F > RJE and PRE software, running on a VAX OpenVMS system. (The gateway  > is non-local.)  H How about the VMS/SNA product, which uses the same calls as your gateway> code.  At one point DEC cancelled it and then resuccitated it.   ------------------------------  # Date: Mon, 22 May 2000 23:09:56 GMT", From: koehler@eisner.decus.org (Bob Koehler)( Subject: Re: TCP/IP SNA Gateway Solution+ Message-ID: <Cgu9gu9o6BYz@eisner.decus.org>o  ] In article <p04310102b54f0f1c16b8@[132.228.83.220]>, Jon Kreisler <jon@mac.lover.org> writes:: > Hello All,E > Is anyone using a TCP/IP based SNA gateway for a VAX, or know of a A > currently available solution? H > I am currently running a DECNet SNA Gateway-CT (the pre-Domain model.)F > My network group wants to eliminate DECNet over the WAN. I need the F > RJE and PRE software, running on a VAX OpenVMS system. (The gateway  > is non-local.)@ > Please email to me directly and I will summarize for the list:? > mailto:jon@mac.lover.org&subject=Re:%20SNA%20Gateway%20TCP/IPf >   H If they want to eliminate DECnet, why not also elimnate SNA?  You shouldD be able to get a TCP/IP stack for your IBM.  Sorry, can't recall theH vendor we used, but they were the same ones IBM sent us to why we needed to put DECnet on our IBM.h  F ----------------------------------------------------------------------? Bob Koehler                     | Computer Sciences Corporation = Hubble Space Telescope Payload  | Federal Sector, Civil Group-E  Flight Software Team           | please remove ".aspm" when replyinge   ------------------------------  % Date: Mon, 22 May 2000 17:43:34 -0400.- From: JF Mezei <jfmezei.spamnot@videotron.ca> ( Subject: Re: TCP/IP SNA Gateway Solution, Message-ID: <3929A9FE.62AC8F00@videotron.ca>  J > > I am currently running a DECNet SNA Gateway-CT (the pre-Domain model.)G > > My network group wants to eliminate DECNet over the WAN. I need thesG > > RJE and PRE software, running on a VAX OpenVMS system. (The gatewayc > > is non-local.)  J Could you not put your gateway on the same side as your VMS host, thus notH requiring any DECNET on the WAN and let your network group deal with the7 bridging of the SNA traffic coming out of the gateway ?    ------------------------------  % Date: Mon, 22 May 2000 20:32:12 +01009. From: mpatt644 <mpatt644@netscapeonline.co.uk>0 Subject: Re: Using both uppercase and lowercase!4 Message-ID: <39298B3C.264F0DC2@netscapeonline.co.uk>  H It's been a long time and I'm not sure if my memory is playing tricks onD me (don't have a VMS box to hand to check either) but can't you do a2 "$set term/nolower " which might do what you want.     Farzad Eskandari wrote:  >  >    Salute to Info-VaxoG >   You may already saw that when you want to log into your account youSG > are prompted for "Username:" here as you see "Username" is printed ini@ > lowercase but when you type your name it appears in uppercase!H > Does anyone know how to simulate this situation in a command procedure > under vax/vms 5.5?! >                       Thank youe' >                                Farzad5   ------------------------------  % Date: Mon, 22 May 2000 15:53:04 -0400 - From: JF Mezei <jfmezei.spamnot@videotron.ca>o0 Subject: Re: Using both uppercase and lowercase!, Message-ID: <39299020.DE4BEEB6@videotron.ca>   Farzad Eskandari wrote:hG >   You may already saw that when you want to log into your account you"G > are prompted for "Username:" here as you see "Username" is printed ino@ > lowercase but when you type your name it appears in uppercase!  < At VMS 7.2, this was changed. The user name appears as typed    H > Does anyone know how to simulate this situation in a command procedure > under vax/vms 5.5?  ? $SET TERM/UPPERCASE will translate all your input to uppercase.n   ------------------------------   Date: 22 May 2000 21:25:54 GMT2 From: hoffman@xdelta.zko.dec.nospam (Hoff Hoffman)0 Subject: Re: Using both uppercase and lowercase!6 Message-ID: <8gc8l2$2mo$2@mailint03.im.hou.compaq.com>  \ In article <39299020.DE4BEEB6@videotron.ca>, JF Mezei <jfmezei.spamnot@videotron.ca> writes: :Farzad Eskandari wrote:H :>   You may already saw that when you want to log into your account youH :> are prompted for "Username:" here as you see "Username" is printed inA :> lowercase but when you type your name it appears in uppercase!h : = :At VMS 7.2, this was changed. The user name appears as typed      At V7.1 and later.  N  --------------------------- pure personal opinion ---------------------------L    Hoff (Stephen) Hoffman   OpenVMS Engineering   hoffman#xdelta.zko.dec.com   ------------------------------  # Date: Mon, 22 May 2000 21:57:54 GMT	  From: james_e_becker@my-deja.com0 Subject: Re: Using both uppercase and lowercase!) Message-ID: <8gcagu$bpu$1@nnrp1.deja.com>o   Folks,  7 I hate to assume the worst, but this looks an awful lotc< like a request for assistance in writing a password grabber.: If I understand the request, he wants a DCL procedure that% makes users think they're logging in.e  
 Jim Becker  4 In article <009EA769.79BFC7E0.8@civil.sharif.ac.ir>,7   Farzad Eskandari <eskandar@civil.sharif.ac.ir> wrote:r >    Salute to Info-Vax0G >   You may already saw that when you want to log into your account youiG > are prompted for "Username:" here as you see "Username" is printed int@ > lowercase but when you type your name it appears in uppercase!H > Does anyone know how to simulate this situation in a command procedure > under vax/vms 5.5?! >                       Thank you2' >                                Farzadn >e >     & Sent via Deja.com http://www.deja.com/ Before you buy.p   ------------------------------  % Date: Tue, 23 May 2000 00:26:05 -0400w2 From: "Richard B. Gilbert" <DRAGON@compuserve.com>0 Subject: Re: Using both uppercase and lowercase!7 Message-ID: <200005230026_MC2-A610-8056@compuserve.com>u  G         The only application that I can think of for this is a passwordh stealing routine!   5         AFAIK, it only works on a hardwired terminal:l Simulate logout.J Provide your own login prompt in response to a carriage return, or contro= lt Y. Read username. Prompt for password. Read password. Write password to file.a Simulate login failure.e( $ STOP /ID=3D0    ! to log out silently.  6         You have now stolen some poor user's password.  ?         This hole was more or less closed ca. VMS V4.x with SETa TERMINAL/SECURE_SERVERA although you had to train your users to hit BREAK to log in.  ThetG disappearance of hardwired terminals made it impractical on most moderni systems.      > Message text written by INTERNET:hoffman@xdelta.zko.dec.nospamF >In article <009EA769.79BFC7E0.8@civil.sharif.ac.ir>, Farzad Eskandari% <eskandar@civil.sharif.ac.ir> writes:cF :  You may already saw that when you want to log into your account youH :are prompted for "Username:" here as you see "Username" is printed in =  ? :lowercase but when you type your name it appears in uppercase!0  C   OpenVMS V7.1 and later accept (and can use) mixed case usernames.2  G   And as was mentioned elsewhere, LOGINOUT is not written DCL, and it =-  D   accordingly has access to OpenVMS functions that DCL programmers =  	   do not.n  G :Does anyone know how to simulate this situation in a command proceduren :under vax/vms 5.5?o  E   What, exactly, do you really want to do here?  (A problem statement33   and/or a short DCL example would be useful here.)a  G   Do you want the user input via the READ command or (less desirably) =   D   via the INQUIRE command displayed in upcase when entered?  (As wasC   mentioned elsewhere, you can force user input into upcase via theEE   DCL command SET TERMINAL.  This is not something I recommend doing, E   as you will want to code your DCL to reset this attribute on all of1   the possible exit paths.)c  D   Or do you want to upcase the input for comparision via, say, the =  0   UPCASE option in the f$edit lexical function?<   ------------------------------  # Date: Tue, 23 May 2000 00:14:07 GMTC2 From: "Zane H. Healy" <healyzh@shell1.aracnet.com>* Subject: VMS equivalent of UNIX dd command6 Message-ID: <j3kW4.1152$NX3.30704@typhoon.aracnet.com>  J I'm trying to build a 2.11BSD boot tape for my PDP-11/73.  The easiest wayL for me to do this would be on my MicroVAX 3 under OpenVMS V7.2.  Is there an$ OpenVMS equivalent to the following?   	dd if=file0 bs=512 of=/dev/st0   	dd if=file1 bs=1024 of=/dev/st0  	dd if=file2 bs=2048 of=/dev/st0  J In other words I need to write several different files to tape using block" sizes of 512, 1024 and 2048 bytes.   			ZaneX   ------------------------------  % Date: Mon, 22 May 2000 20:29:08 -04007+ From: Tim Shoppa <shoppa@trailing-edge.com>-. Subject: Re: VMS equivalent of UNIX dd command1 Message-ID: <39299894.2692781D@trailing-edge.com>o   Zane H. Healy wrote: > L > I'm trying to build a 2.11BSD boot tape for my PDP-11/73.  The easiest wayN > for me to do this would be on my MicroVAX 3 under OpenVMS V7.2.  Is there an& > OpenVMS equivalent to the following? > ( >         dd if=file0 bs=512 of=/dev/st0) >         dd if=file1 bs=1024 of=/dev/st0c) >         dd if=file2 bs=2048 of=/dev/st01 > L > In other words I need to write several different files to tape using block$ > sizes of 512, 1024 and 2048 bytes.  C The best way of doing this, IMHO, is to build a TPC file (variable-oB length, sequential) from the individual files, with the tape marksC encoded as zero-length records, and use DECUS TPC to then write the(? tape.  It's about a half-dozen or a dozen lines of Fortran or C-F to write this.  Lots of folks have been doing it this way for a couple decades now.  C If you really don't want to learn how to program, you can (assuming B the tape is MUA0: and all the input files are fixed-length blocks, blocked 512 bytes per record):  , $ MOU/FOR/RECORDSIZE=512/BLOCKSIZE=512 MUA0: $ COPY FILE0. MUA0:T
 $ DISMO MUA0:e- $ MOU/FOR/RECORDSIZE=512/BLOCKSIZE=1024 MUA0:w  $ SET MAGTAPE/SKIP=FILES:1 MUA0: $ COPY FILE1. MUA0:n
 $ DISMO MUA0:k- $ MOU/FOR/RECORDSIZE=512/BLOCKSIZE=2048 MUA0:-  $ SET MAGTAPE/SKIP=FILES:2 MUA0: $ copy FILE2. MUA0:M
 $ DISMO MUA0:n  F Going this route will be a lot, lot slower than TPC.  TPC is excellent! at getting tape drives to stream.6  F If the files are currently sitting on your system as STREAM-LF format,? you probably want to change them to 512-byte fixed records withn  1 $ SET FILE/ATTR=(RAT:NONE,RFM:FIX,LRL:512) FILE*.i  / before doing the above-suggested COPY commands.n   -- mB  Tim Shoppa                        Email: shoppa@trailing-edge.comG  Trailing Edge Technology          WWW:   http://www.trailing-edge.com/r6  7328 Bradley Blvd                 Voice: 301-767-59176  Bethesda, MD, USA 20817           Fax:   301-767-5927   ------------------------------  # Date: Tue, 23 May 2000 03:15:23 GMT-2 From: "Zane H. Healy" <healyzh@shell1.aracnet.com>. Subject: Re: VMS equivalent of UNIX dd command6 Message-ID: <fJmW4.1156$NX3.30894@typhoon.aracnet.com>  , Tim Shoppa <shoppa@trailing-edge.com> wrote:. > $ MOU/FOR/RECORDSIZE=512/BLOCKSIZE=512 MUA0: > $ COPY FILE0. MUA0:' > $ DISMO MUA0:a/ > $ MOU/FOR/RECORDSIZE=512/BLOCKSIZE=1024 MUA0:n  I You want the RECORDSIZE to be different than the BLOCKSIZE?  I would havew+ thought you would want them to be the same.i  H > If the files are currently sitting on your system as STREAM-LF format,A > you probably want to change them to 512-byte fixed records with.  3 > $ SET FILE/ATTR=(RAT:NONE,RFM:FIX,LRL:512) FILE*.h  1 > before doing the above-suggested COPY commands.f  2 OK, I'm definitly confused about the records here.   			Zanee   ------------------------------  # Date: Mon, 22 May 2000 20:50:10 GMT  From: Dirk Munk <munk@home.nl>% Subject: Re: Voluntary Milking System.' Message-ID: <39299D7F.2AC6AC8E@home.nl>.   "Terry C. Shannon" wrote:  > < > "Phil Howell" <howellp@snowyhydro.com.au> wrote in message/ > news:_FLV4.38958$PL4.820680@ozemail.com.au...1N > > Our local Tandy (Radio Shack) shop has a sign on the door proclaiming "VAX > > serviced here".-0 > > I understand it is a type of vacuum cleaner. > M > Yup. It's a British product, available here in the States through Sears. NoD > OS license required.  8 I've seen them in Holland too, nice red vacuum cleaners.F A couple of days ago I even saw a bottle of VAX floorwax. Maybe it can* be used to give those 19" racks a shine ??   ------------------------------  % Date: Mon, 22 May 2000 17:40:06 -0400h- From: JF Mezei <jfmezei.spamnot@videotron.ca>i% Subject: Re: Voluntary Milking Systeme, Message-ID: <3929A92F.CA6D312B@videotron.ca>   Dirk Munk wrote:: > I've seen them in Holland too, nice red vacuum cleaners.H > A couple of days ago I even saw a bottle of VAX floorwax. Maybe it can, > be used to give those 19" racks a shine ??  N But what strikes me is that in one of the pictures of the VAX vacuum cleaners,L it has the verty same sticker "I LOVE MY VAX" that some Digital employee hadH given to me. So, who commissioned those stickers ? Digital or the vacuum+ cleaner company ? Perhaps a joint venture ?s   ------------------------------  % Date: Tue, 23 May 2000 08:43:09 +0800 ? From: "Samson, Hugh (PiC at Alcoa)" <Hugh.Samson2@alcoa.com.au> % Subject: RE: Voluntary Milking SystemlL Message-ID: <E9CFD28F6991D111A45B0000F67E4D2102CBA14D@aua_kwi.kwi.alcoa.com>  E They have been in oz for many years, probably one of the best wet/dryp cleaners around..   I "Nothing Sucks Like A Vax" is a popular advertising slogan here for them, = which has some unfortunate connotations for the "real" vaxen.d  ( -- insert personal opinion disclaimer --   Hugh Samson?   A/ Systems Administrator Alcoa Of Australia Kwinana Refinery WAo   > -----Original Message-----4 > From:	JF Mezei [SMTP:jfmezei.spamnot@videotron.ca]% > Sent:	Tuesday, May 23, 2000 5:40 AMr > To:	Info-VAX@Mvb.Saic.Comt' > Subject:	Re: Voluntary Milking Systemh >  > Dirk Munk wrote:< > > I've seen them in Holland too, nice red vacuum cleaners.J > > A couple of days ago I even saw a bottle of VAX floorwax. Maybe it can. > > be used to give those 19" racks a shine ?? > F > But what strikes me is that in one of the pictures of the VAX vacuum > cleaners,hJ > it has the verty same sticker "I LOVE MY VAX" that some Digital employee > hadnJ > given to me. So, who commissioned those stickers ? Digital or the vacuum- > cleaner company ? Perhaps a joint venture ?u  _ Alcoa World Alumina Australia is a trading name of Alcoa of Australia Limited,  ACN 004 879 298a   ------------------------------  # Date: Mon, 22 May 2000 20:34:02 GMTn* From: young_r@eisner.decus.org (Rob Young)" Subject: Re: Wildfire Announcement+ Message-ID: <+ZOvaVCCtuLO@eisner.decus.org>   o In article <39296548.1FE991FA@uk.sun.com>, Andrew Harrison SUNUK Consultancy <andrew.nospam@uk.sun.com> writes:i > Rob Young wrote: > [ >> In article <LBU66PV5fOqp@eisner.decus.org>, young_r@eisner.decus.org (Rob Young) writes:pt >> > In article <39293046.5C1F06ED@uk.sun.com>, Andrew Harrison SUNUK Consultancy <andrew.nospam@uk.sun.com> writes: >>C >> >       What's your point?  I don't understand what you mean by:n >> >I >> >> Digitals footsteps and shouted the SPECint mantra from the rooftopssH >> >> without producing the benchmark results that cost money to run but+ >> >> which matter to commercial customers.e >> >>a >> >G >> >       They have produced them.  Are you disappointed that 32 AlphaeD >> >       CPUs didn't do better than 64 Sparc CPUs in integer rate? >> > >> >>         Ummm make that: >>G >>         They have produced them.  Are you disappointed that 32 AlphamI >>         CPUs didn't do MUCH better than 64 Sparc CPUs in integer rate?i >>& >>                                 Rob >    	[snip]a   > A > It is also true that SPECint/fp is relatively inexpensive while2< > 3 tier SAP, TPC-C etc are much more expensive to run. This; > however does not explain why Compaq chose to announce the-= > GS machines while making claims for the systems performance4 > that have no backup. > C > This lack of real benchmark results to back up performance claims A > is par for the course, it was exactly what Digital did with thenB > origional Alpha servers and wasn't that a great sucess. Remember: > the 64bit DBMS marketing with not one relative benchmark: > to back up the performance claims made for 64bit DBMS's. > M > Nothing appears to have changed. I said in a much earlier post prior to theuH > WildFire announcement that Compaq need to show much more than marginalN > performance leads between themselves and other platforms to get customers toJ > put them back on their bid lists and they can only do this by publishingM > world class "relevant" benchmark results. Publishing SPECint/fp results hasgN > almost no relevance to the target market that Compaq must make inroads in ifK > the Alpha is going to survive. Have you ever seen a SPECint/fp number for F > a S390 or a HDS box, would it suprise you to know that HP have neverN > bothered publishing SPECint/fp/rate_int/rate_fp numbers for the V2500/V2600. >  >   G 	Good points and they did not synch up tpm's with rollout announcement. ? 	A *bit* disappointing , yes.  But Bill Heil mentioned they area> 	undergoing audit and we will see tpmC within 6 weeks, so make 	that 5 weeks at this point.  1 	Any bets on Wildfire 300 GByte tpmH for 32 CPUs?P   	Here is an analogous HP mark:  K http://www.tpc.org/results/individual_results/HP/hp.v2500.h.99102002.es.pdfc   	32 CPUs , 32 GByte @ 3715 QphHl  = 	When is Sun going to post anything new for the UE10000? tpmHw
 	any time?  D 	Starting to look like Digital's old 8400 there (only old benchmarks> 	to look at).  I've looked and the most recent UE10000 mark is@ 	from 8/99 and looks weak and very expensive compared to an S80:  ; http://www.ideasinternational.com/benchmark/tpc/tpccnc.html   ? 	Since the UE10000 is nearing end of life and Sarenghetti isn't-C 	due until 1Q2001 , how does Sun prevent UE10000 sales from tailingeE 	off dramatically in 3Q + 4Q 2000 considering it takes a box swap to sF 	go to Sarenghetti?  Trade-in protection helps a bit but then a lot of5 	shops don't relish rolling in and rolling out , etc.n   				Robp   ------------------------------  % Date: Mon, 22 May 2000 22:18:40 -0400a* From: David A Froble <davef@tsoft-inc.com>" Subject: Re: Wildfire Announcement- Message-ID: <3929EA80.3B9D3B1C@tsoft-inc.com>u   Rob Young wrote: > j > In article <39296548.1FE991FA@uk.sun.com>, Andrew Harrison SUNUK Consultancy <andrew.nospam@uk.sun.com>   5 >	  Trade-in protection helps a bit but then a lot of > >         shops don't relish rolling in and rolling out , etc. > % >                                 Robb  P Two questions Rob.  First, what's the problem with exchanging complete boxes?  IP keep seeing the claims for in-box upgrades, and have never understood them, whenK almost the total value of the upgrade is in the new electronics.  If you'relM going to change that, what's the issue with the box.  Heck, maybe the paint'slL scratched on the old one, and a new box fixes that.  Your statement seems toA have some insight on the topic.  Can you explain that reluctance?a  O Second, it was nice not hearing from Andrew for a while.  Each time you respond!N to him, it just gives him a forum for more of his FUD.  No reply, no more fromL Andrew until he finds another topic, unless he stoops to replying to his ownO posts.  Or, if you really enjoy communicating with him, take it to a Sun forum.3   Dave   -- m4 David Froble                       Tel: 724-529-04504 Dave Froble Enterprises, Inc.      Fax: 724-529-0596; 170 Grimplin Road               E-Mail: davef@tsoft-inc.com  Vanderbilt, PA  15486h   ------------------------------  % Date: Tue, 23 May 2000 00:28:26 -0400e- From: JF Mezei <jfmezei.spamnot@videotron.ca> " Subject: Re: Wildfire Announcement, Message-ID: <392A08E6.E6976322@videotron.ca>   David A Froble wrote:mR > Two questions Rob.  First, what's the problem with exchanging complete boxes?  IR > keep seeing the claims for in-box upgrades, and have never understood them, whenC > almost the total value of the upgrade is in the new electronics. 2  K It is sometimes much easier to swap a board, do the tests to ensure the newRL one works, and swap the old board back in if it doesn't.  It also allows youM to keep the rest of your peripherals in place, and usually, costs less money.z  J Also, if you have a wildfire with many many CPUs, it becomes easier to addI newew/faster CPUs while keeping the older ones in. Changing the whole box  would be much more expensive.e  N Swapping boxes is done on disposable Wintel boxes because there is no logic inM keeping an older machine with slower motherboard speed etc etc. But on better ' quality machines, it becomes an option.-   ------------------------------   Date: 22 May 2000 19:21:35 GMT: From: patchkov@acs1.acs.ucalgary.ca (Serguei Patchkovskii) Subject: Re: Win a DS10-3 Message-ID: <8gc1bv$1dpc$1@nserve1.acs.ucalgary.ca>M  ; Serguei Patchkovskii (patchkov@acs1.acs.ucalgary.ca) wrote:p* : Carl Perkins (carl@gerg.tamu.edu) wrote:P : : Actually, if you read the one specific whitepaper full of detailed technicalO : : information that talks about this, it turns out that what they mean by "lowd  O : Would you mind posting an URL? For some reason, I find it *very* hard to findnO : anything on Compaq web pages, so that the best I was able to come up with wasaS : http://www.compaq.com/alphaserver/download/gs_techsummary.pdf - at that referenceo : is a bit on the sketchy side.a  X Nether mind - I found it at: http://www.compaq.com/alphaserver/download/architecture.pdf  M As far as I can see, "low occupancy" means that memory accesses are pipelined N throughout the memory system - which is quite nice, but hardly growndbreaking.G I also find the absence of any mention of the SGI Origin series in this K document rather conspitious - after all, *every* hardware feature of the GSeM series, with the notable exception of hardware partitioning and separate CPU- M switch links within a QBB (and a four-years difference in the implementation bJ technology), is already present in the Origin interconnect. If fact, you'dN probably learn quite a bit more about the Compaq GS series and other directoryF -based NUMAs by going through the *SGI* technical publications libraryI (at http://www.sgi.com/origin/whitepapers.html) that from Compaq itself. o
 Kinda sad ...u   Cheers,r   /Serge.P   --1 home page: http://www.cobalt.chem.ucalgary.ca/ps/t   ------------------------------   Date: 22 May 2000 23:28 CST ' From: carl@gerg.tamu.edu (Carl Perkins)e Subject: Re: Win a DS10r- Message-ID: <22MAY200023284450@gerg.tamu.edu>e  q In article <8g7ne5$kiu$1@nserve1.acs.ucalgary.ca>, patchkov@acs1.acs.ucalgary.ca (Serguei Patchkovskii) writes....) }Carl Perkins (carl@gerg.tamu.edu) wrote:sO }: Actually, if you read the one specific whitepaper full of detailed technicalEN }: information that talks about this, it turns out that what they mean by "low } N }Would you mind posting an URL? For some reason, I find it *very* hard to findN }anything on Compaq web pages, so that the best I was able to come up with wasR }http://www.compaq.com/alphaserver/download/gs_techsummary.pdf - at that reference }is a bit on the sketchy side. } 	 }/Serge.P7  E Try this: http://www.compaq.com/alphaserver/download/architecture.pdfmI (The "A" in "architecture" might be capitalized, if this doesn't work try  that.)  ' This is the first pdf file on the page:s8 http://www.compaq.com/alphaserver/gs/gs_whitepapers.html  E The way I found that page is that it is on the "press & analyst" pagelE off the GS intro page's menu. That last item on that page is the linko. for "more AlphaServer GS series white papers".   --- Carl   ------------------------------  # Date: Mon, 22 May 2000 19:04:13 GMTR4 From: "Michael D. Ober" <mdo.@.wakeassoc.com.nospam>* Subject: Re: Windows 98 Vs. Windows NT 4.0E Message-ID: <NwfW4.15895$S31.420358@newsread2.prod.itd.earthlink.net>t  G Platform is probably not the best word.  Take a look at the NT Hardware @ Compatibility List and you will see there are a lot of differentJ makes/models of systems that NT is "certified" on.  For NT 3.51, I countedK roughly 1,000 entries in the base CPU list.  I haven't counted Windows NT 4uH or 2000 - never got bored enough to do it again.  Never mind variants ofF hard drives, SCSI interfaces, etc.  MS claims NT will run on all theseL systems, yet some are of such poor quality they are only useful as oversizedJ door stops.  The point is still that it is very easy to make a rock stableL platform if you have good hardware and control over that hardware.  It's not3 so easy to do it if you don't control the hardware.4  H As for the demise of NT on Alpha and PowerPC processors, it was simply aL case of marketing and technology not being in sync.  It's very hard to writeH to multiple processor families and without market share, it's simply notH profitable.  When MS was promoting NT on non-Intel based processors, theI best Intel had was the 486 and the Alpha was hand's down a superior chip.aH High end Alpha's are probably still superior to high end Pentium III andK Xeons.  The PowerPC port was done during the MS/IBM breakup and was a majoreJ reason that the PowerPC never really got off the ground - IBM couldn't getG OS/2 ported and they didn't want NT as the only OS for it.  Also, don'tdD forget the MIPS processor port which died after NT 3.5.  None of theH non-Intel ports got the support of the third party market they needed to stay viable.  H And yes, Compaq and HP did put a money-back guarantee on their NT serverL reliability, if you let them do all the configuration.  I don't know if they' still do, but it was there at one time.e  
 Mike Ober.    @ "Christopher Smith" <chriss@Mufasa.pubserv.com> wrote in messageC news:Pine.LNX.4.05.10005221532380.7799-100000@Mufasa.pubserv.com...b& > On Mon, 22 May 2000, it was written: > L > > underlying hardware was complete garbage.  The hardware platform must beL > > rock stable to guarantee uptime, for any OS.  Starting with the originalI > > release of NT 3.1, I have crashed a total of 6 times - 3 with NT 3.1,Y and0K > > one each with NT 3.5, NT 3.51, and NT 4, and none so far with Win2K (NTE 5).TF > > For an OS that runs on over a thousand different platforms, that's prettyI > > stable.  The only time I reboot my NT/2000 system at home is when the2 >U7 > Here's where I begin to question your authenticity...o >lJ > I'd expect microsoft to claim something rediculous like "NT runs on overJ > 1000 different platforms," but I never thought I'd hear that from anyone
 > else. :) >a9 > Please tell me what deffinition you use for "platform."= >TK > Last I heard NT would theoretically run on intel, alpha, and powerpc, butn3 > no longer practically on either alpha or powerpc.l >hH > I count three in a best case, and there's only one that I'd recognise. >t
 > Regards, >m > Chris  >d > L ============================================================================ === @ > "My two cents" (http://rootworks.com/twocentsworth.cgi?128562)= > Christopher Smith(chriss@pubserv.com) Prgramer^W Programmerc! > Prime Synergy of Champaign, IL.n' > -------------------------------------1K > "Where a calculator on the ENIAC is equipped with 18,000 vacuum tubes andrJ > weighs 30 tons, computers in the future may have only 1,000 vacuum tubes< > and weigh only 1.5 tons." -- Popular Mechanics, March 1949L > -------------------------------------------------------------------------- -----  >u >    ------------------------------   Date: 22 May 2000 18:41:11 CDT= From: wayne@tachysoft.xxx.044962.killspam.0138 (Wayne Sewell)n* Subject: Re: Windows 98 Vs. Windows NT 4.0. Message-ID: <eIeo89UG9euW@tachxxsoftxxconsult>   In article <Pine.LNX.4.05.10005221532380.7799-100000@Mufasa.pubserv.com>, Christopher Smith <chriss@Mufasa.pubserv.com> writes:e& > On Mon, 22 May 2000, it was written: > K >> underlying hardware was complete garbage.  The hardware platform must beVK >> rock stable to guarantee uptime, for any OS.  Starting with the originalCL >> release of NT 3.1, I have crashed a total of 6 times - 3 with NT 3.1, andN >> one each with NT 3.5, NT 3.51, and NT 4, and none so far with Win2K (NT 5).L >> For an OS that runs on over a thousand different platforms, that's prettyH >> stable.  The only time I reboot my NT/2000 system at home is when the > 7 > Here's where I begin to question your authenticity...  > J > I'd expect microsoft to claim something rediculous like "NT runs on overJ > 1000 different platforms," but I never thought I'd hear that from anyone
 > else. :) > 9 > Please tell me what deffinition you use for "platform."- > K > Last I heard NT would theoretically run on intel, alpha, and powerpc, butt3 > no longer practically on either alpha or powerpc.s > H > I count three in a best case, and there's only one that I'd recognise.  N I assume he is counting every known model of intel box as a "platform", i.e. a= compaq presario is a different platform from a dell whatever.    --  O ===============================================================================cM Wayne Sewell, Tachyon Software Consulting  (281)812-0738  wayne@tachysoft.xxxy: http://www.tachysoft.xxx/www/tachyon.html and wayne.html  K change .xxx to .com in addresses above, assuming you are not a spambot  :-)-O ===============================================================================HC Jake Blues: "Sell me your children!  How much for the little girl?"a   ------------------------------  # Date: Mon, 22 May 2000 19:06:08 GMT@4 From: "Michael D. Ober" <mdo.@.wakeassoc.com.nospam>$ Subject: Re: Windows/VMS integrationE Message-ID: <AyfW4.15918$S31.420769@newsread2.prod.itd.earthlink.net>e  L If you have installed TCP/IP services, you can turn on the rexec service andH use rexec from any system that supports it, including Windows NT.  Win9xK doesn't have a native rexec program, but there is third party software that-A has rexec for Win9x.  Watch out for security issues, as the logind information is in plain-text.y  
 Mike Ober.  7 "Arne Vajhj" <arne.vajhoej@gtech.com> wrote in messagey# news:39293F99.57862011@gtech.com...t > "G. Jones" wrote:mI > > Is there a way to submit VMS programs or command files from a Windows  > > program? >A0 > Not directly, but it is not difficult to code. >9- > PathWorks used to ship with such utilities.s >a > Arne   ------------------------------  % Date: Mon, 22 May 2000 20:22:12 -0500t) From: "John E. Malmberg" <wb8tyw@qsl.net>l$ Subject: Re: Windows/VMS integration- Message-ID: <sijmvddeo175@corp.supernews.com>u  5 G. Jones <gerryr@smwtrading.company> wrote in messageo& news:39292920_1@news5.newsfeeds.com...2 > Is there a way to submit VMS programs or command > files from a Windows program?-  H Yes, several ways.  If you have SAMBA-VMS installed, you can configure aJ batch queue instead of a print queue, and copy the DCL command file to it.  0 Of course be aware of the security implications.   -JohnA wb8ytw@qsl.network   ------------------------------  % Date: Mon, 22 May 2000 23:50:45 -0400>2 From: "Richard B. Gilbert" <DRAGON@compuserve.com>  Subject: Windows/VMS integration7 Message-ID: <200005222351_MC2-A5FD-8F45@compuserve.com>r  J         The last time I used Pathworks (ca. 1993) it had this capability.=    " Message text written by "G. Jones"F >Is there a way to submit VMS programs or command files from a Windows	 program?<    ------------------------------   End of INFO-VAX 2000.286 ************************ut+ >> >> which matter to commercial customers.e >> >>a >> >G >> >       They have produced them.  Are you disappointed that 32 AlphaeD >> >       CPUs didn't do better than 64 Sparc CPUs in integer rate? >> > >> >>        "MS>NG}@kv@
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