1 INFO-VAX	Sat, 02 Sep 2000	Volume 2000 : Issue 490       Contents:# Re: (change topic) Relicensing VMS. ( Re: (change topic) Rose-Hulman's new VP. 8mm tape drive ANN: VMS Mosaic 3.6-2  RE: apache web server  Re: Big AlphaServer Sale Re: CMUIP on OpenVMS v7.1 VAX? Re: CMUIP on OpenVMS v7.1 VAX? Re: dcps# Re: Disaster Tolerance - Terrorists " Re: disk hardware config question:" Re: disk hardware config question:+ Re: e-mail from Exchange server to VMS mail 2 Re: Here we go again - WTB/T/etc source listing CD hp laserjet 4050tn Re: hp laserjet 4050tn Re: hp laserjet 4050tn Re: I&DS Book Question Re: IMAP-Server for VMS? Re: kill nslookup  Latent bug in 6.1 Backup?  Re: Latent bug in 6.1 Backup? $ MG20 (was Re: Q: Why not (2^n)-bit?)) RE: Oracle/VMS (in the US) teleconference  Re: Q: Why not (2^n)-bit?  Re: Q: Why not (2^n)-bit? ! Re: Sun Hardware problems persist ! Re: Sun Hardware problems persist $ TCP/IP 5.0A PatchList or ECO Summary( Re: TCP/IP 5.0A PatchList or ECO Summary( Re: TCP/IP 5.0A PatchList or ECO Summary
 VAX 810 FT vax/vms boot problem Re: vax/vms boot problem Re: VMS and 100 meg Ethernet Re: VMS and 100 meg Ethernet Re: VMS and 100 meg Ethernet VMS and 100 meg Ethernet Re: VMS and 100 meg Ethernet Re: VMS and 100 meg Ethernet Re: VMS Support for 4D30T ???? Re: VMS Support for 4D30T ???? Welcome to the internet age !   F ----------------------------------------------------------------------  + Date: Fri, 01 Sep 2000 18:11:35 -0500 (EST) 1 From: "Robert J. Slover" <slover@Rose-Hulman.Edu> , Subject: Re: (change topic) Relicensing VMS.V Message-ID: <Pine.LNX.3.96.1000901180142.1067A-100000@rocinante.admin.rose-hulman.edu>  C There are a couple of types of such purchases.  Having been through F this where I worked before, if the company has contractual obligationsB (or bankruptcy debt) that the buyer does not wish to acquire, theyD can do an 'asset purchase', and buy only the physical facilities andF equipment.  The proceeds go to settle debts, but the lawyers get firstD cut and contractors and former employees may get nothing.  I imagineB licenses need to be re-acquired in this case, as it is the same as just buying the equipment.   Regards,     --Robert  - On Fri, 1 Sep 2000, Richard B. Gilbert wrote:   E >         If the software is licensed to a corporation, you can buy a H > controlling interest or the whole thing, and use the same licenses.  IM > thought that this was the situation that Jim was talking about.  Apparently E > not!   This was a case where a corporation sold a building and some - > machinery; legally it's not the same thing.  > : > Message text written by INTERNET:tim.llewellyn@bbc.co.uk > >"Richard B. Gilbert" wrote: > G > >         Why would they need to "relicense" VMS?  The license can be I > > transferred with the machine if the machine is sold.   When you buy a  > whole A > > company, AFAIK, you don't even need to transfer the licenses.  > >  > K > This is interesting to me. I thought only VMS base and a couple of others I > (DECNET?) could be transferred legally. All the application and layered 	 > product  > M > licences need to be repurchased, which sounds really bad buisiness practice L > especially in the take-over and out-source intesive commercial environment > we live in.< >  > <snip> >  >    ------------------------------  % Date: Fri, 01 Sep 2000 18:46:52 -0400 2 From: "Richard B. Gilbert" <DRAGON@compuserve.com>1 Subject: Re: (change topic) Rose-Hulman's new VP. 7 Message-ID: <200009011847_MC2-B1CF-EFE8@compuserve.com>   C         If the software is licensed to a corporation, you can buy a F controlling interest or the whole thing, and use the same licenses.  IJ thought that this was the situation that Jim was talking about.  Apparent= lyC not!   This was a case where a corporation sold a building and some + machinery; legally it's not the same thing.   8 Message text written by INTERNET:tim.llewellyn@bbc.co.uk >"Richard B. Gilbert" wrote:  E >         Why would they need to "relicense" VMS?  The license can be G > transferred with the machine if the machine is sold.   When you buy a  whole ? > company, AFAIK, you don't even need to transfer the licenses.  >   J This is interesting to me. I thought only VMS base and a couple of others=  G (DECNET?) could be transferred legally. All the application and layered  product   J licences need to be repurchased, which sounds really bad buisiness practi= ceJ especially in the take-over and out-source intesive commercial environmen= t  we live in.<   <snip>   ------------------------------  # Date: Sat, 02 Sep 2000 05:40:10 GMT  From: smiley0205@my-deja.com Subject: 8mm tape drive ) Message-ID: <8oq3rn$i89$1@nnrp1.deja.com>    VMSers,   F   Thanks for your help on my question on the maxsize of a single disk.E I have another issue.  I'm looking for a tabletop 8mm tape drive that F would plug into a MicroVax 3100-90.  It needs to be able to read a 5gbG capacity tape.  The intension will be to replace a MA250(MTI) STI unit. - Does anyone know where I could get one cheap?    spike     & Sent via Deja.com http://www.deja.com/ Before you buy.    ------------------------------   Date: 1 Sep 2000 23:51:30 EDT ) From: cook@wvnvms.wvnet.edu (George Cook)  Subject: ANN: VMS Mosaic 3.6-2! Message-ID: <8F3uDPcsEgaU@wvnvms>   0 Release 3.6-2 of VMS Mosaic is now available at:  0     ftp://alpha.wvnet.edu/mosaic/mosaic3_6-2.zip  > Because mosaic3_6-2.zip is a set of patches instead of being a@ complete kit, it must be unzipped on top of Mosaic 3.6 or 3.6-1. 3.6 is available at:  .     ftp://alpha.wvnet.edu/mosaic/mosaic3_6.zip  9 3.6-2 includes the following changes since release 3.6-1: G ----------------------------------------------------------------------- :  o Added file LOCAL.CONFIG for local configuration changes9  o Added preference setting for the image delay file name <  o Added support for 8 bit (or less) uncompressed BMP imagesA  o Changed to save binary files as fixed 512 instead of stream LF :  o URL: window is now updated before page finishes loading$  o Improved frame and cookie support1  o Improved font size and color support in tables   o Fixed News XOVER support $  o Various bug and memory leak fixesG -----------------------------------------------------------------------      George Cook  cook@wvnet.edu   ------------------------------  % Date: Fri, 01 Sep 2000 15:12:50 -0400 # From: John Vottero <John@MVPSI.com>  Subject: RE: apache web serverD Message-ID: <C15945A9D9EFCF11BA8B08002BBF1CCC0CD7D8@berry.mvpsi.com>  J I don't think you are running the required versions of OpenVMS and TCP/IP.D Do you have ALPACRT09_071 and ALPABASE02_071 installed?  Apache also requires TCPIP V5.0A   > -----Original Message-----7 > From: Hank Vander Waal [mailto:hvanderw@novagate.com] + > Sent: Friday, September 01, 2000 12:09 PM  > To: Info-VAX@Mvb.Saic.Com  > Subject: apache web server >  > : > below is the last couple of lines from apache$server.log5 > for a brand new apache install on VMS 7.1 & UCX 4.1  > > > I have just installed it and taken all the defaults for the  > installation. $ > Anyone tell me what I have to do?? >  > Thanks > Hank Vander Waal > Mansco >  >  >  >   APACHE$WWW (*) >   APACHE$ROOT:[000000] >  >   =   APACHE$ROOT:[000000] >   =   APACHE$COMMON:[000000]E > %IMGACT-F-SYMVECMIS, shareable image's symbol vector table mismatch E > -IMGACT-F-FIXUPERR, error when APACHE$HTTPD_SHR referenced DECC$SHR : >   APACHE$WWW   job terminated at  1-SEP-2000 11:59:46.53 >  >  >    ------------------------------  $ Date: Fri, 1 Sep 2000 21:17:49 -0400  From: John Santos <JOHN@egh.com>! Subject: Re: Big AlphaServer Sale 6 Message-ID: <1000901203747.28573A-100000@Ives.egh.com>  $ On 1 Sep 2000, Paul Repacholi wrote:  9 > "Fred Kleinsorge" <kleinsorge@star.zko.dec.com> writes:  > D > > This is certainly an area that could stand carefully thought out > > improvement. > @ > Thought? Take gzip. change the open to use multi-buff, and bigF > IOs, add RAH,WBH and give it decent initial extents and allocations. > 
 > *ONE* line!  >   B Isn't this a job for the volunteer who ported gzip to VMS, not for Compaq?   ? Or are you saying Compaq should devote the resources to porting B gzip (and by extension, an unknown but possibly vary large portion of the gnu library) to VMS?   H How do the GNU folks react to something like this?  Approve, disapprove,F ignore the whole thing?  Will they incorporate the Compaq changes (andD bug fixes) into the generic source, or is this a moving target that G Compaq would have to continously monitor and try to keep up with?  Who  F decides priorities and allocates resources?  How much does it cost andG who pays for it?  (If it all ends up on the freeware disk and available F on the net, still someone has to pay the salaries of the people who do
 the work.)  E Or do they do it once for some currently useful set of utilities, and B then in a few years everyone here is on their case again about the lack of some current widget?  F I can't really blame Compaq for not wanting to open this can of worms.  A I think it is much more useful for them to work on infrastructure C (compilers, OS features) that allow easier porting than to actually  do the porting themselves.  E Then if everyone devoted one tenth the effort to porting these things E that they spend posting here about the lack of them, the job would be C done.  Don't know C, you say?  Then get a copy of K&R and the DEC C F manuals (much more complete) and treat this as a learning opportunity., It probably looks great on your resume, too!  D Sorry Paul, this isn't directed personally at you.  In fact it looksA like you have already researched what needs to be done to gzip to B vastly improve its performance.  This leads to another issue:  How9 does one go about improving an existing freeware program?   ? I think the GNU people have their own procedure, which involves B submitting changes back to them, but there's lots of freeware that9 doesn't explicitly refer to the FSF "copyleft" agreement.   D There's a pointer in the VMS FAQ to a web page that describes how to) submit new things to the VMS FREEWARE CD  @ (http://www.openvms.digital.com/openvms/freeware/cd_guide.html),G but it doesn't really address the issue of modifying existing freeware. B It does say that customers are free to adapt the freeware to theirB needs, but I think that applies only to local use or incorporationA in other software, and not re-distribution of a modified version. > I also think it is right that the original author be consultedB when changes are made to his or her code, even if it isn't legallyC required for things in the public domain.  But what if the original  author can't be found?  A I'm sure all these issues have been discussed to death, and maybe @ we don't need more discussion, but if there is a consensus, thenA maybe it should be a FAQ, so when someone wants to fix something, % they can find out how to go about it.   A > Complile allof it in one go, /plus_list with full DECC tweeking A > and see up to 20 fold increase in speed. Oh, and possibly a few  > latent bugs. > # > It is some thought vs no thought.  >  > PS tailor.h is the file... > --  > > Paul Repacholi                               1 Crescent Rd.,9 > +61 (08) 9257-1001                           Kalamunda. B >                                              West Australia 60760 > Raw, Cooked or Well-done, it's all half baked. >  >    --   John Santos  Evans Griffiths & Hart, Inc. 781-861-0670 ext 539   ------------------------------   Date: 1 Sep 2000 14:57:35 -0500 2 From: malmberg@eisner.decus.org (John E. Malmberg)' Subject: Re: CMUIP on OpenVMS v7.1 VAX? + Message-ID: <V2x9JjO1Cd7+@eisner.decus.org>   : In article <39afdeef$0$56653$7aa13262@news.net-link.net>, / "Roger D. Oliver" <oliverr@voyager.net> writes: > > I have tried to get CMUIP running on my pair of VAX 4600 and> > VAX 4300 systems -- running OpenVMS v7.1 without luck.  Same1 > results on VAXserver 3100 running openVMS v7.1.  > ? > When it goes to compile the software during the installation, ' > it bitches about a missing .obj file.   1 You are building from the kit on the Freeware CD.   K The build script has commented out the complile of two modules required for ! building the X11 transport image.   6 If you look at the .com file, you will find it easily.   ; > Anybody know what I am talking about?  Is there some .obj ? > option kits in VMS v7.1 that I should install to gain greater 
 > success.  M Go to http://www.openvms.compaq.com and find the links to the OpenVMS FAQ, if I they are not on the main page, they are off of the "Ask The Wizard" link.   O Somewhere in there is a URL for getting the latest CMU-IP distribution kits and  patches.   ? > We have UCX running on a pile of Alphas, but would **REALLY** ? > like to get IP going on these VAXen "on the cheap" since they @ > will be trash canned in the foreseeable future.  All I need to= > do is terminal incoming and printer outgoing connections --  > nothing else.   N Read the current CMU-IP FAQ for instructions on setup and tuning.  It has much needed information.    	 > thanks!  >  > Roger Oliver > Sys Analyst 2  > City of Kalamazoo    -John  Former Kalamazoo Resident  wb8tyw@qsl.network     ------------------------------  $ Date: Fri, 1 Sep 2000 21:53:58 -0400  From: John Santos <JOHN@egh.com>' Subject: Re: CMUIP on OpenVMS v7.1 VAX? 6 Message-ID: <1000901215104.28573E-100000@Ives.egh.com>  " I encountered this many years ago. Here are my notes:  ! ================================= ; Problem building CMUIP V6.6 on VMS V7.0.  The kit looks for B a TZDRIVER_Vn.OBJ in PTY054.B in CMUIP066.B.  There was no _V7.OBJ in the kit.   < Solution was to recreate the kit with the V6 file duplicated as the V7 file.   / 	$ BACKUP src:CMUIP066.B/SAVE_SET [.CMUIP_B]*.* 1 	$ BACKUP [.CMUIP_B]PTY054.B/SAVE_SET [.PTY_B]*.* 7 	$ copy [.PTY_B]TZDRIVER_V6.OBJ [.PTY_B]TZDRIVER_V7.OBJ 1 	$ BACKUP [.PTY_B]*.* [.CMUIP_B]PTY054.B/SAVE_SET , 	$ BACKUP [.CMUIP_B]*.*; CMUIP066.B/SAVE_SET7 	$ assign sys$login:,src: new_src:	! set up search list 2 	$ ! or copy CMUIP066.B src: if it's not a CD-ROM!  > Then build, specifying new_src: as the source, instead of src:  A The assumption here is that the V6 version will work just fine on  VMS V7.05 =====================================================    Hope this helps!  * On Fri, 1 Sep 2000, Roger D. Oliver wrote:  G > I have tried to get CMUIP running on my pair of VAX 4600 and VAX 4300 J > systems -- running OpenVMS v7.1 without luck.  Same results on VAXserver > 3100 running openVMS v7.1. > J > When it goes to compile the software during the installation, it bitches > about a missing .obj file. > N > Anybody know what I am talking about?  Is there some .obj option kits in VMS5 > v7.1 that I should install to gain greater success.  > N > We have UCX running on a pile of Alphas, but would **REALLY** like to get IPL > going on these VAXen "on the cheap" since they will be trash canned in theH > foreseeable future.  All I need to do is terminal incoming and printer' > outgoing connections -- nothing else.  > 	 > thanks!  >  > Roger Oliver > Sys Analyst 2  > City of Kalamazoo  >  >  >  >    --   John Santos  Evans Griffiths & Hart, Inc. 781-861-0670 ext 539   ------------------------------  % Date: Fri, 01 Sep 2000 18:05:15 -0400 $ From: "Ray T." <lists@aik.tec.sc.us> Subject: Re: dcps - Message-ID: <39B0281B.8AB79D49@aik.tec.sc.us>    Bob Ricci wrote: > H > i have a hp laserjet 40tn and am trying to print landscape- set up the; > ip_rawtcp/192.92.91.68:9100 port and on the generic queue N > page_orientation=landscape....the queus set up properly, but i have to resetM > the queues every time i print as they remain in a starting state....until i N > reset then all prints normally- i have tried manually setting the printer toJ > autosense and ps - but neither helps...aanyone else having this problem? > Robert V. Ricci  > Systems Manager  > Drs. Associates (SUBWAY)
 > 325 Bic Dr.  > Milford, Ct 06460  >  tel  203 877 4281 ext 1144  > fax to pc 203 783 7144 >  fax 203 876 6682  > email ricci_r@subway.com! >  or     maxx0623@concentric.net  > http://www.subway.com   C We are printing to HP4050tn's with DCPS 1.7 using ip_rawtcp with no E problem, BUT...  I'm using no special options in DCPS.  We only printiJ old DEC ANSI stuff and when we add the ANSI escape sequences for landscape- to what we send to DCPS, it prints landscape.I   Raye   ------------------------------  # Date: Sat, 02 Sep 2000 01:43:26 GMTl! From: LBohan@spam..less.dbc...comw, Subject: Re: Disaster Tolerance - Terrorists8 Message-ID: <fljuqs0indrsr2dnjgovob7fajsc7mdvkv@4ax.com>  F On Fri, 25 Aug 2000 15:00:38 GMT, robert_jm_barron@hotmail.com (Robert Barron) wrote:   >Hi,A >Whiles reading "OpenVMS and NT Integration (for dummies)" I cameMG >across a line on page 171 where they claim that due to a fiber Cluster C >Interconnect, an OpenVMS application survived a terrorist bombing.e >) >are any details available?n >( >Thank you,e >Robet  ' this may have been the Nymex Exchange ?    ------------------------------  # Date: Fri, 01 Sep 2000 18:28:49 GMTO8 From: Veli =?iso-8859-1?Q?K=F6rkk=F6?= <korkko@decus.fi>+ Subject: Re: disk hardware config question:T( Message-ID: <39AEA4AC.1D6B7ECB@decus.fi>  C There are in fact two variants of CIPCA. One is PCI/EISA boards and A the other is PCI/PCI boards. Since ES40 does not have EISA slots, 0 one would have to use the two PCI board variant.   _veli    Peter LANGSTOEGER wrote: > d > In article <39ABFF73.694E893@decus.fi>, Veli =?iso-8859-1?Q?K=F6rkk=F6?= <korkko@decus.fi> writes:G > >Apparently I missed something essential but... Why don't you get the @ > >ES40 model 2 which has ten PCI slots. Granted the four CIPCAsB > >(to attach the Alpha to each of those four stars) would consume9 > >eight PCI slots thus leaving only two for other stuff.  > P > AFAIK, the CIPCA is a one PCI slot/one EISA slot solution. But I may be wrong. >  > --> > Peter "EPLAN" LANGSTOEGER           Tel.    +43 1 81111-2651= > Network and OpenVMS system manager  Fax.    +43 1 81111-888'> > FBFV/Information Services           E-mail  eplan@kapsch.netH > <<< KAPSCH AG  Wagenseilgasse 1     PSImail PSI%(0232)281001141::EPLANJ > A-1121 VIENNA  AUSTRIA              "I'm not a pessimist, I'm a realist"P > "VMS is today what Microsoft wants Windows NT V8.0 to be!" Compaq, 22-Sep-1998   ------------------------------  # Date: Fri, 01 Sep 2000 18:28:51 GMT 8 From: Veli =?iso-8859-1?Q?K=F6rkk=F6?= <korkko@decus.fi>+ Subject: Re: disk hardware config question:,( Message-ID: <39AEA6BE.A88A0D10@decus.fi>  A I do not see any reason why MC is not supported on GS140. IN fact = I am pretty sure I know someone with MC on GS140. But what isd= the need for MC right now if you do have it on any other nodee of your existing cluster?N  ; Are those subnets disconnected networks? You can use pseudo 8 interfaces to configure two subnets on a single physical4 network interface, say WE0 with ip 10.0.0.1 and then WEA0 with ip 192.168.1.1.o  2 Add those two KGPSA unless there will be available3 a two channel fibre adapter. (I sure would love see  such a device)..  2 Then those two bisynchs and we are upto five now. 5 Maybe a dual channel+100Mbit/S ethernet adapter, i.e.o KZPCM and two CIPCAs   Would that sound anything?   _velia   John Nixon wrote:l > N > No, you really didn't miss any thing.  In fact, you picked up on the problemF > without my mentioning it.  I need at least two PCI slots for gigabit
 > ethernetH > adapters to connect to my two subnets.  I also need a pair of them forG > future fibre channel (which will take care of my disk access problemse@ > SOME DAY!  I also need a  couple of PCI slots for some bisynchB > boards, and I may need a few more for memory channel. (I am onlyF > contemplating memory channel right now.  None of my other nodes willI > support it.  At least I was told that an 8400, upgraded to a GS140 willnH > not support memory channel).  I might need a scsi adapter also.  RightJ > now I can see a need for at least 7 PCI slots.  That only leaves me room2 > for one CIPCA (or two if I sacrifice elsewhere). > + > But, one CIPCA would be better than none!e > L > Also, that is why I am considering a GS80,but I am having a real hard time1 > coaxing a price for one of those out of anyone.K > B > On the other hand, I can get a used GS140 for about $100,000 andE > all my VAX software will trade up.  But maintenance will eat me up.  > 2 > "Veli Krkk" <korkko@decus.fi> wrote in message# > news:39ABFF73.694E893@decus.fi...bH > > Apparently I missed something essential but... Why don't you get theA > > ES40 model 2 which has ten PCI slots. Granted the four CIPCAs C > > (to attach the Alpha to each of those four stars) would consume,D > > eight PCI slots thus leaving only two for other stuff. But thereB > > you would presumably use e.q. KZPCM to give you 100Mbit/s FullA > > duplex ethernet and two single ended ultra scsi channels pluse4 > > something else with the remaining last PCI slot. > >m= > > And since you have four stars but 10 HSJ50, i.e. 5 pairs,d< > > I would imagine that you have 3/3/2/2 HSJ50 connected to@ > > those four stars. Are you stars eight port model by the way? > >g* > > And then to my take on your questions. > >t > > John Nixon wrote:o > > >bK > > > I have three VAX 7860s and and Alpha 8400, each with four CI devices.mE > > > They are each connected to four star couplers which in turn are  > connected8> > > > to 10 HSJ50s, loaded with 4.3 GB disks and 9.1 GB disks. > > >:M > > > I need to add an Alpha to this cluster.    I need to make sure that the  > newtL > > > Alpha gets at least as good disk access as everything else gets today.E > > > I also need to make sure that the VAXes do not lose any disk IOo- > > > performance until I can phase them out.i > > >g > > > Question 1.6 > > >-K > > > If I add an ES40 with Gbit ethernet, and if I put Gbit ethernet on mydM > > > Alpha 8400,  can I expect that the 8400 will MSCP serve CI disk storagenM > > > to the ES40 at a rate equal to, or better than the VAX 7800s can accesss > > > the CI storage directly? > > >rI > > > I guess the question has to do with weather the CIPCAs and the 8400eI > > > backplane can serve the data faster than the VAX 7800 with a CIXCD.e > > >s > >nH > > The raw bandwith sure is there. But you would have a single point ofD > > failure with this setup, i.e. the serving Alpha. Also this wouldC > > add somewhat or very badly to the Cpu utilization on your 8400.- > >- > >- > >- > >  > > > Question 2:  > > >:J > > > If I add fibre channel to the alpha 8400 and the ES40,  what kind ofM > > > disk IO performance could I expect if I serve this storage to my VAXes.  > > > E > > > The VAXes have 10baseT ehternet and FDDI (one each).  They alsoyG > > > have the four CIXCDs I mentioned. Would the fibre channel storagesG > > > be served to the VAXes over the network (fddi and/or ethernet) oraG > > > would it find its way through the 8400 and the CIPCAs to the star 4 > > > coupler, then through the CIXCDs to the VAXes? > > > M > > > The answer to these questions will help determine whether I buy a GS140n4 > > > with more CIPCAs (yechh) or an ES40 (or GS80). > >sD > > If both Alphas do MSCP serve stuff, the VAXes would load balanceG > > (either statically or dynamically, I am not sure right now) between I > > the Alphas. Traffic from 8400 to VAX would be via CI but traffic from G > > Es40 to VAX would be via network, possibly inbound via the 10Mbit/sC > > adapter. > >e > >m > >e > > >b > > > As always, TIA.- > >U   ------------------------------  $ Date: Fri, 1 Sep 2000 14:06:55 -0400& From: "Syltrem" <syltrem@videotron.ca>4 Subject: Re: e-mail from Exchange server to VMS mail6 Message-ID: <4aSr5.2827$lu6.59786@weber.videotron.net>  I We have MS-exchange here, and knew I could send from VMS-mail to exchange59 (do it a lot). I just tried sending a ms-exchange mail torK "syltrem@kronos.ivaco.com" and IT WORKS! (kronos is my node name, ivaco.comh the domain)l8 Never had to try before, but it's good to know it works.   Syltrem   9 <alphaman-nix-spam@hsv.sungardtrust.com> wrote in messaged# news:8on5n8$719$1@nnrp1.deja.com...d* > In article <8oiqe2$7p$1@nnrp1.deja.com>," >   dawnmoreton@my-deja.com wrote:H > > Hi can anybody help me, we have a requirement to forward Exchange e-> > > mail onto our vax's either via SMTP or FTP(into VMS mail).
 > > Help !I > > (We can send mail the other way from Vax to Exchange and into the bigS > > world.)t > > Regards, > > Dawn >h
 > Hi Dawn, > F > Well, first off -- don't bother with FTP.  That's kinda like using a > hammer to pound a screw... >iH > Exchange v5.5 has IMS, the Internet Mail Server (?), included with it.I > Since you've said that you can VMSmail to the Exchange server, my guesssI > is you've got it installed and at least partially configured correctly.  >aG > The trick now is sending stuff the other way.  Really, that shouldn't + > be a big deal -- just address the message F > as "vmsusername@vmshost.domain" and let it fly.  If that works, then@ > all you need to do is modify the accounts that want their mailB > forwarded to autoforward to the SMTP address as described above. >mE > If it doesn't work, we may need to investigate your entire ExchangerC > config, so feel free to write to me (pull the -nix-spam out of my)H > address as posted here.)  There are some gotchas with sending email toE > both SMTP and Exchange mailboxes from Lookout.... errr, Outlook (MS A > doesn't like people using mail facilities other than theirs, sodG > messages sometimes disappear into the bit bucket or, if you're lucky, D > generate bounces, all for no reason whatsoever).  But since you'reG > autoforwarding from the Exchange server, hopefully you won't see thatt > particular problem.  >. > Good luck, > Aarone >u >v( > Sent via Deja.com http://www.deja.com/ > Before you buy.y   ------------------------------  # Date: Sat, 02 Sep 2000 03:42:17 GMT  From: walkerp1@my-deja.com; Subject: Re: Here we go again - WTB/T/etc source listing CDr) Message-ID: <8opsul$b47$1@nnrp1.deja.com>s  @ > Did you actually tell them you bought a bootleg copy on Ebay??H > Having a copy in your possesion doesn't constitute a license.  You canE > get that dumpster diving, I'm sure.  Having a license requires thatEG > you paid the fee to Compaq that you seem determined to get around.  Il3 > doubt that Ebay passed any royalties onto Compaq.i >e > bill  C I've been watching the fische sales at E-Bay out of curiosity sinceoD this thread began, and they all suddenly got pulled :)  In fact, theF history file has been purged as well.  I wonder if DEQ had a talk with E-Bay?   Paul    & Sent via Deja.com http://www.deja.com/ Before you buy.s   ------------------------------   Date: 01 Sep 2000 19:40:36 GMT& From: "bob ricci" <ricci_r@subway.com> Subject: hp laserjet 4050tnt0 Message-ID: <8op0nk$jo8@dispatch.concentric.net>  I Using dcps 1.8 on alpha vms set up printer queue to use rawtcpip and portsL 9100-set portrait to postscript-can print to queue once than it stops beforeG printing the next job-need to restart it-am i missing a setting-am alsonJ getting unrecognized printer from dcps- i know its not supported yet but iI heard that someone in this group has had some success, also need to printg+ landscape to it-has anyone had any success?f thanks ricci_r@subway.com   ------------------------------   Date: 1 Sep 2000 13:58:16 PDT-T From: Fairfield@SLAC.Stanford.EDU (Ken Fairfield; SLAC: 650-926-2924; FAX: 926-3515) Subject: Re: hp laserjet 4050tnC3 Message-ID: <Y0mypLRfKQhw@mccdev.slac.stanford.edu>-  1 In article <8op0nk$jo8@dispatch.concentric.net>, 6-     	"bob ricci" <ricci_r@subway.com> writes:-K > Using dcps 1.8 on alpha vms set up printer queue to use rawtcpip and port.N > 9100-set portrait to postscript-can print to queue once than it stops beforeI > printing the next job-need to restart it-am i missing a setting-am alsoeL > getting unrecognized printer from dcps- i know its not supported yet but iK > heard that someone in this group has had some success, also need to printM- > landscape to it-has anyone had any success?v  G         I've posted (repeatedly!) about setting up DCPS for use with asdH     yet unrecognized HP printers.  Search Deja for anything with my nameD     as poster and DCPS or HP.  If you'd like, contact me offline forF     details.  We're printing without problems to several HP 4050[D]N's>     on site.  (I thing the "T" in 4050TN just means you got an$     additional input tray, correct?)           -Ken --  M  Kenneth H. Fairfield            |  Internet: Fairfield@SLC.Slac.Stanford.Edur:  SLAC, 2575 Sand Hill Rd, MS 46  |  Voice:    650-926-2924:  Menlo Park, CA  94025           |  FAX:      650-926-3515N  -----------------------------------------------------------------------------B  These opinions are mine, not SLAC's, Stanford's, nor the DOE's...   ------------------------------  $ Date: Sat, 2 Sep 2000 15:12:54 +1000/ From: "Phil Howell" <howellp@snowyhydro.com.au>a Subject: Re: hp laserjet 4050tna2 Message-ID: <K5%r5.6850$cr3.202865@ozemail.com.au>  1 Try configuring the queue with a reset module eg.s /separate=(reset=(hp_reset)) when hp_reset is something likeu* <ESC>%-12345X@PJL ENTER LANGUAGE = PCL<LF> [EOB]f Phil/ bob ricci <ricci_r@subway.com> wrote in messagen* news:8op0nk$jo8@dispatch.concentric.net...K > Using dcps 1.8 on alpha vms set up printer queue to use rawtcpip and port-G > 9100-set portrait to postscript-can print to queue once than it stopso beforeI > printing the next job-need to restart it-am i missing a setting-am also0L > getting unrecognized printer from dcps- i know its not supported yet but iK > heard that someone in this group has had some success, also need to print - > landscape to it-has anyone had any success?. > thanks > ricci_r@subway.com >O >    ------------------------------  # Date: Sat, 02 Sep 2000 00:01:59 GMTt2 From: "Zane H. Healy" <healyzh@shell1.aracnet.com> Subject: Re: I&DS Book Question.6 Message-ID: <XrXr5.772$M62.298425@typhoon.aracnet.com>  ) Terry Kennedy <terry@gate.tmk.com> wrote:B/ >   Barnes & Noble claims to be able to get it:$K > http://shop.barnesandnoble.com/bookSearch/isbnInquiry.asp?ISBN=1555581129:  C While checking that and their listings for the I&DS books I noticedOH something interesting.  People buying OpenVMS books from them seem to beH more interested in Linux books (figure the odds).  Though in the case of6 one, everyone buying it also bought books on MS-DOS...  H >   Amazon lists it at the $186.70 price, 1 page, 3-5 weeks, which means% > they're listing the demand version.r  - I was wondering why that was so blasted high!O   			Zane    ------------------------------  $ Date: Fri, 1 Sep 2000 21:40:30 -0400  From: John Santos <JOHN@egh.com>! Subject: Re: IMAP-Server for VMS?b6 Message-ID: <1000901213319.28573D-100000@Ives.egh.com>  ( On Fri, 1 Sep 2000, Tim Llewellyn wrote:   >  > ' > Steve.Spires@yellowpages.co.uk wrote:t > A > > Contact:   Tel: 3063  -  VSSG, 1st Floor, Bridge Street Plaza, > >w7 > > I would like to be the first, but I'd be fibbing...n > >cS > >  Just as a sanity check, is there anybody out there that can report a situation O > > where the network people aren't running the whole show, and are expected to J > > provide required services, not dictate what protocols can or cannot be, > > transmitted over the network?  Even one? > >a > K >  Oh, bow down to the great God Cisco for the skills required to configure I > it are a highly guarded secret, especially from those who could run the:M > network in the free time they have watching those oh so reliable VMS boxes, N > and configure it to run as many other protocols as well as IP as are needed. > ( > Call it job security? Call me a cynic?  G Actually, I thought the online help on the Cisco boxes I've played withhA was pretty good.  Reminded me a lot of VMS HELP.  A lot easier tot' understand and navigate than man pages.l  @ Or are you saying that managing Ciscos isn't as difficult as theC people who do it for a living pretend?  They just claim it's arcane? so they can keep their jobs?  ? Oh, and DECNET on Ciscos is easy enough, just expensive.  (TheyC4 charge a lot extra for protocols other than TCP/IP.)  @ Also, BTW, I've never dealt with anything but static routing.  IE think this is where all the complexity lies.  But that has nothing tot$ do with which protocols are allowed.   > --8 > Tim Llewellyn, OpenVMS Infrastructure, Remarcs Project2 > MedAS at the BBC, Whiteladies Road, Bristol, UK.C > Email tim.llewellyn@bbc.co.uk. Home tim.llewellyn@cableinet.co.ukD > C > I speak for myself only and my views in no way represent those ofa > MedAS or the BBC.0   --   John SantosB Evans Griffiths & Hart, Inc. 781-861-0670 ext 539   ------------------------------  % Date: Fri, 01 Sep 2000 14:12:07 -0500o/ From: Chris Scheers <chris@applied-synergy.com>_ Subject: Re: kill nslookupO Message-ID: <BFB74CFEDA81836D.FEA918B3E115CDA5.0E014701A8D7376B@lp.airnews.net>"   Phillip Helbig wrote:o > - > I have TCPIP V5.0A-1, OpenVMS V7.2-1 Alpha.s > F > I often want to kill nslookup, especially when LYNX tries to look upG > something and takes longer than I want, but also at other times.  Howv- > can this be killed (^C, ^Y etc don't work).- > I > Also, has the following but in SYS$SYSTEM:TCPIP$NSLOOKUP.EXE been fixed? > yet (I'll be upgrading soon):  > " > $  RUN SYS$SYSTEM:TCPIP$NSLOOKUP& > Default Server:  thales.astro.rug.nl > Address:  129.125.6.224  >  > > EXIT > Server:  thales.astro.rug.nl > Address:  129.125.6.224b > C > *** thales.astro.rug.nl can't find EXIT: Non-existent host/domainw > > exit > $i > I > Note that Exit does not work either, but pressing ^Z does (difficult todG > do in a .COM file, however, which is where I often run this program).A  G Actually, in a .COM file, a line that begins with "$" is usually pretty4# much the same as an interactive ^Z.a  2 Try just leaving the EXIT out of the command file.  
 Good luck!  G -----------------------------------------------------------------------u$ Chris Scheers, Applied Synergy, Inc.  C Voice: 817-237-3360            Internet: chris@applied-synergy.com     Fax: 817-237-3074    ------------------------------  $ Date: Fri, 1 Sep 2000 16:16:10 -07001 From: "Randy Park" <rjpark@mindspring.com.nospam> " Subject: Latent bug in 6.1 Backup?2 Message-ID: <8opddh$sd5$1@slb7.atl.mindspring.net>  3 Could I have found a bug in Backup 6.1 (Vax)?  This 3 one has got me stumped, and I've got about 18 yearso0 of experience programming and managing small VMS systems.  3 I backed up over 500 files (60+MB) into 7 different,4 savesets on my OpenVMS VAX 6.1 system.  The savesets6 were disk files. I copied them (binary mode) to a ZIP-2 100 drive on my Windows 98SE PC.  Took the disk to2 a remote site 5 miles away to reverse the process.4 After restoring the VMS attributes, all the savesets- restore correctly except one where it reportsd5 an 'excessive error rate reading ...' error mesage on  the 20th file in the saveset.r  3 After cursing the mogul from Redmond I went back tod5 my original computer and issued a BACKUP/LIST commands4 on the errant saveset.  Lo and behold I get the same4 error message.  Ok, so assuming sun spots were a bit8 too active when I created the first saveset, I recreated4 it, but this time not specifying /NOCRC.  (I usually6 use /NOCRC when the output is a disk file.)  No errors6 on the backup.  Let's try to get a listing. Same error5 but now on a different file, one that is farther down 4 the list.  Hmmm.  Let's try a backup again, same set4 of files, but use /VERIFY.  Now I get the same error4 on the verify pass.  Ok, do we have any disk errors?7 SHOW ERROR and SHOW DEV/FULL say no error on any disks.   3 I'm stumped.  Is this possibly a backup bug in 6.1?e7 Command used:  BACKUP/LOG/INTERCHANGE input output/SAVEe  5 Ok, Ok.  I should be using a more recent version, bute6 older systems are quite useful when you are developing3 and selling a commercial product.  It's not exactlyr1 customer friendly to tell your customers that yout5 haven't tested your software on older versions of the0) OS.  But that's really a different issue.i   ------------------------------  % Date: Fri, 01 Sep 2000 22:48:08 -0400 2 From: rdeininger@mindspring.com (Robert Deininger)& Subject: Re: Latent bug in 6.1 Backup?L Message-ID: <rdeininger-0109002248090001@user-2ivebo2.dialup.mindspring.com>  e In article <8opddh$sd5$1@slb7.atl.mindspring.net>, "Randy Park" <rjpark@mindspring.com.nospam> wrote:     6 > of files, but use /VERIFY.  Now I get the same error6 > on the verify pass.  Ok, do we have any disk errors?9 > SHOW ERROR and SHOW DEV/FULL say no error on any disks.. > 5 > I'm stumped.  Is this possibly a backup bug in 6.1? 9 > Command used:  BACKUP/LOG/INTERCHANGE input output/SAVEt  C AFAIK, there have been some fixes for Backup since V6.1.  Have you r3 looked for backup-related patches you should apply?o  I Have you done an ANALYZE/DISK on the source and destination disks?  Maybe O the file structure is somewhat broken, and Backup is working with bad/confusingu information.   -- e Robert Deininger rdeininger@mindspring.comu   ------------------------------    Date: 01 Sep 2000 12:06:01 -07003 From: Eric Smith <eric-no-spam-for-me@brouhaha.com>s- Subject: MG20 (was Re: Q: Why not (2^n)-bit?)S3 Message-ID: <qhu2c0aq5i.fsf_-_@ruckus.brouhaha.com>   = alderson@netcom2.netcom.com (Richard M. Alderson III) writes:uD > The followups seemed to say that MG20 was NFG for Tops-10 systems,, > apparently taking us down the garden path.  B AFAIK, the MG20 works fine with TOPS-10, as did the MF20.  They'reG actually nearly identical, with higher-capacity DRAM chips in the MG20,s) but all the same control logic, ECC, etc.   F The only problem with using the MA20, MB20, MF20, or MG20 with TOPS-10C is that it is not multi-ported memory, so it can't support multipleoE CPUs or external (non-RH20) data channels.  Thus it was only suitablek( for smaller DECsystem-10 configurations.  D If DEC had designed a fast multiported semiconductor memory box withB some ports that would connect directly to the KL10 S-bus interfaceC (rather than the DMA20 KI memory bus adapter), they would have sold C a lot of them.  I imagine that the cancelled product Barb mentionedc# must have been something like this.    ------------------------------  % Date: Fri, 01 Sep 2000 15:32:27 -0400e From: forank@DFO-MPO.GC.CA2 Subject: RE: Oracle/VMS (in the US) teleconference? Message-ID: <254EE5CE305FD211832C0060B06B2652025FF821@MSGNCR05>l  L I tuned in to the teleconference and it was quite interesting.  It concernedL the Oracle e-business suite iAS on VMS.  Unfortunately from another source IJ found that while Oracle has V11.3 on VMS they do not plan to port V11.5 toH VMS.  I have not been able to confirm this one way or another.  If V11.5D will not be ported to VMS then in the long term the viability of theE e-business of Oracle on VMS will be dead.  Does anyone have any others information?   Ken    	-----Original Message----- 5 	From:	Dave Gudewicz [SMTP:david.gudewicz@abbott.com]e) 	Sent:	Thursday, August 31, 2000 11:24 AM  	To:	Info-VAX@Mvb.Saic.Com/ 	Subject:	Oracle/VMS (in the US) teleconference   9 	Anyone tune in to this week's Oracle/VMS teleconference?   	 	Comments    	Dave...   	i   ------------------------------   Date: 01 Sep 2000 18:47:09 GMT; From: alderson@netcom2.netcom.com (Richard M. Alderson III)s" Subject: Re: Q: Why not (2^n)-bit?6 Message-ID: <ALDERSON.00Sep1114709@netcom2.netcom.com>  D In article <8olgmn$8f8$2@bob.news.rcn.net> jmfbahciv@aol.com writes:  N > I thought I had included a caveat about the nomenclature (I never really gotI > all that hardware mumbo-jumbo straight in my head).  Ok, since the MG20,F > existed, then the memory project that was cancelled wasn't the MG20.  H You did include such a caveat; my reply was simply to prod whoever mightG remember the designation of the cancelled memory into speaking up.  The.I followups seemed to say that MG20 was NFG for Tops-10 systems, apparentlym taking us down the garden path.I   Sorry for the confusion. --* Rich Alderson						    alderson@netcom.comA 		     until 30 Sept 2000, when shell accounts go away from here.a: 			 I haven't yet decided where I'll post from after that.L   "You get what anybody gets.  You get a lifetime."  --Death, of the Endless   ------------------------------  # Date: Fri, 01 Sep 2000 22:49:26 GMTa% From: hg/jb <shsrms@bellatlantic.net>n" Subject: Re: Q: Why not (2^n)-bit?0 Message-ID: <39B0349F.76E57914@bellatlantic.net>   jmfbahciv@aol.com wrote: > 	 ><<snip>>  >  > A simulator is not hardware.B As I found out!!  I learn more and more that I know less and less! thanks barb! badbob   >  > /BAH > ) > Subtract a hundred and four for e-mail.    ------------------------------  % Date: Fri, 01 Sep 2000 20:37:06 +0200.* From: "J. McLean" <mcleanj@pop.dplanet.ch>* Subject: Re: Sun Hardware problems persist- Message-ID: <39AFF752.9F2B414@pop.dplanet.ch>    Andrew,   A Even by your usual standards your responses on this matter of Sun D hardware have been pretty abysmal. In regard to your diatribe at theG base of this posting I have a some questions and some comments for you..    ? 1.  Are you are saying that Sun fail to advise their clients of F appropriate environmental conditions for the servers they are about toH purchase and that they may be voiding warranties if these conditions areG not met ?  If this is the case I'm not sure who is the more stupid, youoF company for accepting conditions way outside those which are certifiedC or the customers for selecting a vendor who fails provide them withx vital information.    G 2.   The last time I saw static discharges playing havoc with a machineeG was in 1980 when I was working near a HP-1000 machine sited in a normaleE office environment.  A couple of anti-stat mats later and the problem F disappeared.  From the days of Micro-Vax II's (ie. mid 1980's) DigitalG proved that it could build a machine which would be so well constructedeC that static electricity discharges from a normal office environment- would not cause problems.e  H Are Sun engineers still unable to design the hardware to cope with these situations ?  C (BTW, according to media reports, Sun have advised their clients tocH reduce the temperature in the computer room but if the concern is staticF electricty, why is there no mention of the various anti-static devices ?)    @ 3.  A few years ago I was on a site where one aircon unit in theG computer failed and the trip mechanism to the other unit also failed.   E We called the aircon engineers and tried to wait for them rather thaneE disrupt about 150 users.  At a room temperature of 28C (about 85F) wetD decided it would be prudent to shut down the 3 Alpha servers runningE VMS  which so far had not given us the slightest worry.  I think that?E the only machines in the entire computer room to fail were about 4 of 6 the 6 Sun workstations and 1 or 2 other non-DEC boxes.  G It look like VMS is not only more robust than Sun's offerings but so is5 the hardware that it runs on.i    G 4. According to the various online media reports Sun have very recently F admitted that perhaps they were unwise to resort to NDA's.  Someone inG Sun now has the temerity to say that as regards quality, they have gone 6 from the back of the class to being the class leaders.  ; When Sun makes statements like this it shows that as far asmG understanding what Quality really means, they are still way at the backo
 of the class.h    A 5.  As Terry Shannon said recently, all manufacturer's have their-H hardware problems and that is fair enough.  What is most alarming in theH current situation is that Sun engineers have had more than six months toH find the cause and correct the problem, and yet nothing of substance hasD been done.  It is starting to look like some kind of inherent designD fault that the engineers cannot or will not fix.   It really appearsH that throughout the whole exercise the only department in Sun that seems? to have been busy on the problem is the "department of creativee	 excuses".r    > Andrew, when you have something of substance to say we will beA interested to read it, but please stop trying to cover up for thee7 incompetence of your colleagues in this current fiasco.   G You have been digging yourself a hole with your postings and most of usaH understand that the wisest action now is to stop digging; I am surprised1 that you didn't know that and have not been told.        John McLeano      ( Andrew Harrison SUNUK Consultancy wrote: >  > Rob Young wrote: > s > > In article <39AE62FF.5D19D867@uk.sun.com>, Andrew Harrison SUNUK Consultancy <andrew.nospam@uk.sun.com> writes:n > >p > > >,M > > > As I said re-read the last paragraph and note the action the datacenter ' > > > manager took and note the result.2 > > >dP > > > What did he say, we were having problems we reduced the temperature in ourD > > > datacenter and the problem went away, what does that tell you. > > >- > >-M > > > So here is a question, do you know what causes the majority of hardware'= > > > failures on all systems not just Sun's but all systems.  > >:L > >         Ummmmm... using the same crappy design as a Sun high-end server?L > >         Just a guess.  Actually, you're probably after "heat."  I'll buyM > >         that.  Funny how much of this Sun hardware is surrounded by otherhH > >         hardware that works fine.  Must be a tough sell to push thatK > >         "heat" angle in a 75 degree computer room where everything else@# > >         is just fine.  Spin on!c > >8 > B > Sorry wrong the biggest cause of hardware failure on all systemsF > not just Sun's is static discharge. Some studies have put it as high > as 70% of all failures.d > > > Now people who know what they are talking about will now sayA > well Rob was sort of right though he didn't realise why becausehH > heat is a contributing factor to making static discharges more likely. > L > But it isn't the only cause, the kind of floor you have in your datacenterR > is a contributory factor and a whole host of other variables. Where the machinesY > are in a datacenter is also an issue, being on the row next to any of the main walkwaysX\ > for example particularly if you have the wrong flooring and other issues like low relativeL > humidity will expose those machines to a higher chance of failure than theN > machines in the same datacenter that are not next door to the main walkways. > N > Paradoxically Rob you may think that the publicity about Sun's Ecache issuesF > has caused a negative impact on Sun's image with its major customers > and for some this is true. > P > However a lot of customers have turned arround and said after their datacenterN > assessment that Sun was the first vendor who has ever explained to them whatO > the issues are and why they should take the actions we have recommended. From-U > you posting it would appear that although you are unlikely to thank Sun for putting>R > you in the picture you would at leat have learnt something that would be usefullN > to help you keep all the systems in your datacenter running without hardware > failures.. > P > Most customers seem to assume that if they keep systems within their operatingP > temperature ranges and humidity ranges they will be reliable, when in fact theQ > systems will be more reliable (from all vendors) if they are operated in a muchh/ > tighter range of temperatures and humidities.n > K > Your post reveals that you like the majority of customers were completely Q > unaware of the fact that the majority of the hardware failures you have seen onwT > all the computer systems you have used have been caused by static, Sun's, Compaqs,L > Digital boxes etc. Why didn't you know, if you had known earlier would youS > (even with Compaqs etc) have taken more care of the environment that your systemsmR > run in ? would you for example have carpet tiles in you datacenter ? you may notR > but people do ? would you monitor the relative humidity of the envrionment ? youP > may but many people don't ? would you make sure that the sub-floor pressure is< > is correct ? that the sub-floor is clean ? etc etc etc etc > M > Your datacenter practice may well be exemplary in which case you don't needjN > to worry about these issues but the fact that you didn't appear to know whatM > the single most important cause of hardware failure is implies that if yourrN > datacenter is well managed it is not because people are aware of the issues,* > or they havn't communicated this to you. > 	 > Regardsh > Andrew Harrisonw > Enterprise IT Architecto   ------------------------------  % Date: Fri, 01 Sep 2000 15:22:00 +0100e  From: steven.reece@quintiles.com* Subject: Re: Sun Hardware problems persistH Message-ID: <OFE81A9A1A.FC28DF4D-ON8025694D.004EB45F@qedi.quintiles.com>   Rob Young commented: >>>tI (1) Hmmmm.. this helps explain the hot standby server concept.  Certainlyt eBay-     wouldn't want to wait for one to boot.<<<-  D But Rob, you can't have a hot standby.  They have some Ecache error.    Maybe that was Ebay's problem!!! :-):   ------------------------------  $ Date: Fri, 1 Sep 2000 14:16:59 -0400. From: "Kenneth Randell" <kenr@datametrics.com>- Subject: TCP/IP 5.0A PatchList or ECO Summaryp+ Message-ID: <8oormu$82p$1@bob.news.rcn.net>p   Hello --  G Is there a listing of the current patches for TCP/IP 5.0A and or an ECOaE summary that I have missed?  I did not find any such list on DSNLINK, 5 although there are several system crashers mentioned.O   Thanks.e   Ken Randell    ------------------------------   Date: 1 Sep 2000 22:20:59 +0200 * From: eplan@kapsch.net (Peter LANGSTOEGER)1 Subject: Re: TCP/IP 5.0A PatchList or ECO Summarye* Message-ID: <39b00fab$1@news.kapsch.co.at>  \ In article <8oormu$82p$1@bob.news.rcn.net>, "Kenneth Randell" <kenr@datametrics.com> writes:H >Is there a listing of the current patches for TCP/IP 5.0A and or an ECOF >summary that I have missed?  I did not find any such list on DSNLINK,6 >although there are several system crashers mentioned.   No.u  A We all want ECOs and new versions of TCPIP V5 but unfortunateley,g' there is nothing since over a year now.d  K Yes, there are patches (unofficial, call your Qsupport) but not on the net.-I The latest I have (since Dec-1999) is PTRV50A-05. I don't know of a newerI  one, but this is not surprising.  C TCPIP V5.1 is said "to arrive soon" (read during the last months !),E I read of the new features of V5.1 at DECUS in April. I think, only ao, V5.1 beta (AFAIK with VMS V7.3 beta) is out.   Sigh   -- d< Peter "EPLAN" LANGSTOEGER           Tel.    +43 1 81111-2651; Network and OpenVMS system manager  Fax.    +43 1 81111-888g< FBFV/Information Services           E-mail  eplan@kapsch.netF <<< KAPSCH AG  Wagenseilgasse 1     PSImail PSI%(0232)281001141::EPLANH A-1121 VIENNA  AUSTRIA              "I'm not a pessimist, I'm a realist"N "VMS is today what Microsoft wants Windows NT V8.0 to be!" Compaq, 22-Sep-1998   ------------------------------   Date: 1 Sep 2000 21:18:40 GMT 2 From: hoffman@xdelta.zko.dec.nospam (Hoff Hoffman)1 Subject: Re: TCP/IP 5.0A PatchList or ECO Summarye6 Message-ID: <8op6fg$8re$1@mailint03.im.hou.compaq.com>  B   Warning: All schedules and dates referenced here are subject to 8   change, and are subject to change without notice, etc.  W In article <39b00fab$1@news.kapsch.co.at>, eplan@kapsch.net (Peter LANGSTOEGER) writes:nL :Yes, there are patches (unofficial, call your Qsupport) but not on the net.J :The latest I have (since Dec-1999) is PTRV50A-05. I don't know of a newer! :one, but this is not surprising.s  E   If folks are having specific problems with TCP/IP Services, please f6   contact the Compaq Customer Support Center directly.  9   TCP/IP Services V5.0A ECO 1 is due circa October, 2000.F  D :TCPIP V5.1 is said "to arrive soon" (read during the last months !)F :I read of the new features of V5.1 at DECUS in April. I think, only a- :V5.1 beta (AFAIK with VMS V7.3 beta) is out.6  E   TCP/IP Services T5.1 is not in OpenVMS T7.3 EFT1/SDK1, and is first H   expected to first ship -- first ship with the OpenVMS T7.3 field test 4   kits, that is -- starting with the EFT2/SDK2 kits.  H   OpenVMS T7.3 EFT2/SDK2 current looks to be starting manufacturing and (   distribution also circa October, 2000.  N  --------------------------- pure personal opinion ---------------------------L    Hoff (Stephen) Hoffman   OpenVMS Engineering   hoffman#xdelta.zko.dec.com   ------------------------------  # Date: Sat, 02 Sep 2000 03:10:55 GMTe* From: "Daniel Bohner" <dbohner@uswest.net> Subject: VAX 810 FTr= Message-ID: <3d_r5.44740$Ur3.484349@news1.sttls1.wa.home.com>"  = Does anyone know of any agency looking for an old VAX 810 FT?s  J I have one - but need to get rid of it.  It mgiht cost more to dispose of,
 than to sell.e   Daniel www.xltcgp.com   ------------------------------  % Date: Fri, 01 Sep 2000 21:14:44 +0300b% From: FROUNTZAS <FROUNTZA@X-TREME.GR>d Subject: vax/vms boot problem > Message-ID: <NDBBJKGHBGFIPPCKOHLMEEEHCAAA.FROUNTZA@X-TREME.GR>   	. we have 3400 series    ------------------------------   Date: 1 Sep 2000 19:31:48 GMTA2 From: hoffman@xdelta.zko.dec.nospam (Hoff Hoffman)! Subject: Re: vax/vms boot problemt6 Message-ID: <8op074$7qq$1@mailint03.im.hou.compaq.com>  f In article <NDBBJKGHBGFIPPCKOHLMEEEHCAAA.FROUNTZA@X-TREME.GR>, FROUNTZAS <FROUNTZA@X-TREME.GR> writes: :	 :we have 3400 series    G   Um, some details (messages, error codes, console or OpenVMS commands :G   used, the OpenVMS VAX version, etc) would be quite useful here -- thecI   complete set of "things" that can prevent a MicroVAX 3400 from booting hE   is arguably an infinite set.  Stomped by elephant, system fell off aG   bridge, disk hardware error, OpenVMS not installed, system disk gone  /   "Los Alamos", DSSI cable disconnected, etc...l     N  --------------------------- pure personal opinion ---------------------------L    Hoff (Stephen) Hoffman   OpenVMS Engineering   hoffman#xdelta.zko.dec.com   ------------------------------  % Date: Fri, 01 Sep 2000 13:53:08 -0400l0 From: David Beatty <David.Beatty.NOSPAM@sas.com>% Subject: Re: VMS and 100 meg Ethernete2 Message-ID: <y+yvOQXx3iRTczRqsCb2m3dgTqvg@4ax.com>  A That's probably a good warning.  I've seen problems with it at myo> former employer's site, but have had no problems with it here.  2 On Fri, 1 Sep 2000 12:31:00 -0500, "Dave Gudewicz"" <david.gudewicz@abbott.com> wrote:   >Beware auto-negotiate!!!o >cH >We've been stung by that bee here too many times, especially with DE500K >NICs.  That's why I recommended setting the speed and dup the way I did in: >an earlier note.  >  >Dave... >r> >"David Beatty" <David.Beatty.NOSPAM@sas.com> wrote in message- >news:g6yvOWKZgtSVOOiul2Lf7mvbi+o+@4ax.com...i >> >> At the Alpha console: >> >> SET <NIC> AUTO-NEGOTIATEu >> INITn >>: >> You can also type SET <NIC> to see the various settings >> for that particular card. >>E >> On Fri, 1 Sep 2000 07:48:33 -0500, "David Ash" <jimjj@hotmail.com>y	 >> wrote:. >>M >> >When I originally installed VMS 7.2 on my Alpha 600au it was plugged into- >aK >> >10meg half duplex hub. Later when we moved the Alpha to a 100meg switch? >theG >> >system continued to work on the network but it didn't automaticallywM >> >autonegotiate its speed up to 100meg full duplex even after a reboot. Can.G >> >any of you tell me how to get the Alpha to run the Ethernet card ate >100meg? >> >Thanks.l >> > >> >f   ------------------------------  $ Date: Fri, 1 Sep 2000 16:06:16 -0500% From: "David Ash" <jimjj@hotmail.com>m% Subject: Re: VMS and 100 meg EthernetM/ Message-ID: <sr06gdckc5d113@news.supernews.com>i  L Everybody thanks for all the suggestions, however so far this is what worked
 for me....   1. mcr lancpI 2. convert dev (to create the permanent database file if you dont alreadye	 have one)  3. def dev ewa0 /speed=100 4. def dev ewa0 /fullt 5. set dev ewa0 /perm,  G this seems to work ok except I'm still unable to get it to go into fullnI duplex. I've checked on the Compaq site to see if the DE500 is capable ofw@ full duplex operation but I'm not finding anything, anyone know.    < "Dave Gudewicz" <david.gudewicz@abbott.com> wrote in message2 news:8ooa3f$8fl$1@fizban.fizban.pprd.abbott.com...4 > Assuming your NIC is 100mb capable, then try this. >o > $mc lancpd > lancp>show device  >u > lets take EWA0 as our exampleo >s > lancp>set dev ewa0 /speed=100'4 > lancp>set dev ewa0 /full      <--- for full duplex > lancp>set dev ewa0 /perm >t6 > lancp>help    <--- in case I forgot something!   ;-) >-	 > Dave...- >  >e2 > "David Ash" <jimjj@hotmail.com> wrote in message+ > news:sqv9b8i3c5d179@news.supernews.com... H > > When I originally installed VMS 7.2 on my Alpha 600au it was plugged into > atK > > 10meg half duplex hub. Later when we moved the Alpha to a 100meg switche > theeG > > system continued to work on the network but it didn't automatically I > > autonegotiate its speed up to 100meg full duplex even after a reboot.- Can G > > any of you tell me how to get the Alpha to run the Ethernet card atd	 > 100meg?  > > Thanks.S > >r > >  >b >s   ------------------------------  $ Date: Fri, 1 Sep 2000 16:45:23 -05001 From: "Dave Gudewicz" <david.gudewicz@abbott.com>a% Subject: Re: VMS and 100 meg Ethernet 8 Message-ID: <8op7qj$e63$1@fizban.fizban.pprd.abbott.com>  E The DE500's I have can full-dup.  Perhaps the variant in the 600au iso different?  Donno that one.    Dave...r  0 "David Ash" <jimjj@hotmail.com> wrote in message) news:sr06gdckc5d113@news.supernews.com...aG > Everybody thanks for all the suggestions, however so far this is what  worked > for me.... >n > 1. mcr lancpK > 2. convert dev (to create the permanent database file if you dont alreadyh > have one)d > 3. def dev ewa0 /speed=100 > 4. def dev ewa0 /fullv > 5. set dev ewa0 /permo >tI > this seems to work ok except I'm still unable to get it to go into fullaK > duplex. I've checked on the Compaq site to see if the DE500 is capable ofaB > full duplex operation but I'm not finding anything, anyone know. >e > > > "Dave Gudewicz" <david.gudewicz@abbott.com> wrote in message4 > news:8ooa3f$8fl$1@fizban.fizban.pprd.abbott.com...6 > > Assuming your NIC is 100mb capable, then try this. > >s
 > > $mc lancpo > > lancp>show devicel > > ! > > lets take EWA0 as our exampler > >l! > > lancp>set dev ewa0 /speed=100c6 > > lancp>set dev ewa0 /full      <--- for full duplex > > lancp>set dev ewa0 /perm > >i8 > > lancp>help    <--- in case I forgot something!   ;-) > >e > > Dave...t > >  > >r4 > > "David Ash" <jimjj@hotmail.com> wrote in message- > > news:sqv9b8i3c5d179@news.supernews.com...nJ > > > When I originally installed VMS 7.2 on my Alpha 600au it was plugged > into > > anF > > > 10meg half duplex hub. Later when we moved the Alpha to a 100meg switch > > theeI > > > system continued to work on the network but it didn't automaticallyeK > > > autonegotiate its speed up to 100meg full duplex even after a reboot.h > Can I > > > any of you tell me how to get the Alpha to run the Ethernet card att > > 100meg?p
 > > > Thanks.i > > >a > > >o > >h > >u >o >t   ------------------------------  % Date: Fri, 01 Sep 2000 18:37:17 -0400 2 From: "Richard B. Gilbert" <DRAGON@compuserve.com>! Subject: VMS and 100 meg Ethernetg7 Message-ID: <200009011837_MC2-B1CF-EFAA@compuserve.com>l  D         Unless you are very lucky, 10/100 Ethernet controllers don't auto-negotiate very well.y= The "standards" seem to be loose enough to allow incompatible 6 implementations.  Shut down to the console prompt and:   >>>SET EWA0 FASTFD$ and reboot.  It's as simple as that.  # Message text written by "David Ash" J >When I originally installed VMS 7.2 on my Alpha 600au it was plugged int= o  a J 10meg half duplex hub. Later when we moved the Alpha to a 100meg switch t= heC system continued to work on the network but it didn't automaticallydJ autonegotiate its speed up to 100meg full duplex even after a reboot. Can=  J any of you tell me how to get the Alpha to run the Ethernet card at 100me= g? Thanks.<   ------------------------------  $ Date: Fri, 1 Sep 2000 21:28:25 -0400  From: John Santos <JOHN@egh.com>% Subject: Re: VMS and 100 meg Etherneto6 Message-ID: <1000901212320.28573C-100000@Ives.egh.com>  A Setting both the switch and interface explicitly to what you wantt? has always worked better for me.  However, I have discovered ino> at least some cases, disconnecting the cable for 30 seconds to? a minute seems to cause the switch to reconfigure the port wheno< you change the interface's speed.  This has worked for me at9 least 3 times when the ethernet segment seemed dead afteraC changing EWx0_MODE on the console and rebooting.  I'm not convinced = this makes the switch autosense Full vs. Half Duplex, though.t  = In other cases, I've reset the mode, rebooted, and it came upt: fine without touching the switch.  Maybe it depends on the; brand/model of switch and/or interface, phase of moon, etc.e   Hope this helps.  % On Fri, 1 Sep 2000, Mike Price wrote:d  D > We have had loads of fun getting various hubs and switches to workE > properly when the system are set up to autonegotiate. In the end ittF > seems to be better to determine exactly what they are supposed to beG > set to and set then to that rather than depend on autonegotiate. i.e.nC > keep the intelligence in humans and take it away from the NIC :-)p > $ > How to do it has been posted above >  > ( > Sent via Deja.com http://www.deja.com/ > Before you buy.y >  >    -- h John Santosw Evans Griffiths & Hart, Inc. 781-861-0670 ext 539   ------------------------------  % Date: Fri, 01 Sep 2000 22:41:19 -0400 2 From: rdeininger@mindspring.com (Robert Deininger)% Subject: Re: VMS and 100 meg EthernetjL Message-ID: <rdeininger-0109002241200001@user-2ivebo2.dialup.mindspring.com>  V In article <sr06gdckc5d113@news.supernews.com>, "David Ash" <jimjj@hotmail.com> wrote:  N > Everybody thanks for all the suggestions, however so far this is what worked > for me.... >  > 1. mcr lancpK > 2. convert dev (to create the permanent database file if you dont alreadyf > have one)n > 3. def dev ewa0 /speed=100 > 4. def dev ewa0 /fulle > 5. set dev ewa0 /permf > I > this seems to work ok except I'm still unable to get it to go into fullfK > duplex. I've checked on the Compaq site to see if the DE500 is capable of B > full duplex operation but I'm not finding anything, anyone know.   DE500 can do full duplex.o  D Note that there was at least one change to the autonegotiate in the K DPW firmware.  This change was around the VMS 7.1-2 or 7.2 timeframe.  It'sd? supposed to fix some problems.  See the firmware release notes.a  E We have given up on autonegotiate.  We have network switches that are D self-configuring, i.e. I can't tell them how to behave.  They alwaysM try to autonegotiate.  With both the switch and the computer autonegotiating,rI we almost always got mismatches.  So I set the computer to a fixed speed.e  E We still have a bad switch, I think.  It sometimes just stops lettinghI traffic through.  100 Mb/sec makes it fail much sooner, so for the momentpF I've dropped the DPWs down to 10 Mb/sec.  I hope to order a new switchJ next week.  And I'll be very sure that I can tell it not to autonegotiate!  4 > > "David Ash" <jimjj@hotmail.com> wrote in message- > > news:sqv9b8i3c5d179@news.supernews.com...cJ > > > When I originally installed VMS 7.2 on my Alpha 600au it was plugged > into > > agM > > > 10meg half duplex hub. Later when we moved the Alpha to a 100meg switchb > > thelI > > > system continued to work on the network but it didn't automaticallyfK > > > autonegotiate its speed up to 100meg full duplex even after a reboot.o > Can I > > > any of you tell me how to get the Alpha to run the Ethernet card ath > > 100meg?r
 > > > Thanks.n > > >  > > >  > >t > >s   -- u Robert Deininger rdeininger@mindspring.com    ------------------------------  $ Date: Fri, 1 Sep 2000 21:20:26 -0400- From: "Island Computers" <sales@islandco.com>k' Subject: Re: VMS Support for 4D30T ???? . Message-ID: <sr0l3igvc5d49@corp.supernews.com>  $ Anyone want to write a driver for it   We'll pay you !d   We have 40-50 of these, so...e   David   ? "Hoff Hoffman" <hoffman@xdelta.zko.dec.nospam> wrote in messagea0 news:8oopd8$6hu$1@mailint03.im.hou.compaq.com... >?E > :On Fri, 1 Sep 2000 09:13:16 -0400, "Islandco" <sales@islandco.com>r	 > :wrote:wI > :Anyone know if there is a way to get the 4D30T working under VMS/Motife >uH >   Either write a driver for it, or replace it with a supported widget. >a, >  --------------------------- pure personal# opinion ---------------------------s1 >    Hoff (Stephen) Hoffman   OpenVMS Engineeringt hoffman#xdelta.zko.dec.com >    ------------------------------  $ Date: Fri, 1 Sep 2000 21:21:20 -0400- From: "Island Computers" <sales@islandco.com>e' Subject: Re: VMS Support for 4D30T ????e. Message-ID: <sr0l57quc5d84@corp.supernews.com>   Gee thanks Mr Hoffman !E     ;0)\    ? "Hoff Hoffman" <hoffman@xdelta.zko.dec.nospam> wrote in message:0 news:8oopd8$6hu$1@mailint03.im.hou.compaq.com... >yE > :On Fri, 1 Sep 2000 09:13:16 -0400, "Islandco" <sales@islandco.com>o	 > :wrote: I > :Anyone know if there is a way to get the 4D30T working under VMS/Motifa > H >   Either write a driver for it, or replace it with a supported widget. >r, >  --------------------------- pure personal# opinion ---------------------------c1 >    Hoff (Stephen) Hoffman   OpenVMS EngineeringD hoffman#xdelta.zko.dec.com >t   ------------------------------  + Date: Fri, 01 Sep 2000 17:16:32 -0400 (EDT)r% From: CHRIS WARD <CWARD80807@aol.com>I& Subject: Welcome to the internet age !< Message-ID: <200009012116.e81LGWn26614@tot-tq.proxy.aol.com>  The internet is indisputably the fastest-growing technology in history. It is predicted that within 5 years, being online will be as common as using the telephone.  Someone new is getting online every 1.6 seconds, thats almost 70,000 new people using the internet each and every day!h Staking your claim in the internet Gold Rush, with more than 7 million websights currently on the internet and an estimated 70 million more within the next two years, there is an immense opportunity to help people establish a web presence.  The rush is on for small businesses, families, churches, sports organizations and many others to join the World Wide Web, and you can help them!  Are you ready to take advantage of an exceptional business opportunity  in one of the most rapidly expanding markets the worl d has ever seen?  The evisionlink.com opportunity is your key to staking your claim on the internet and building your very own internet business, and the opportunity ti generate an impressive weekly income.R Log on to http://ucanbrich.evisionbiz.com  for complete details and pay structure. Dream big dreamsB -------------- The message was sent by Mass Mailer ---------------B Download from Intelliquis International http://www.intelliquis.com   ------------------------------   End of INFO-VAX 2000.490 ************************