1 INFO-VAX	Sat, 02 Sep 2000	Volume 2000 : Issue 491       Contents:2 Re: Here we go again - WTB/T/etc source listing CD2 Re: Here we go again - WTB/T/etc source listing CD2 Re: Here we go again - WTB/T/etc source listing CD Re: Latent bug in 6.1 Backup? ( Re: MG20 (was Re: Q: Why not (2^n)-bit?)( Re: MG20 (was Re: Q: Why not (2^n)-bit?) Re: Q: Why not (2^n)-bit?  Re: Q: Why not (2^n)-bit? ! Re: Sun Hardware problems persist ! Re: Sun Hardware problems persist ! Re: Sun Hardware problems persist  Re: TCPIP$FTP Bugchecking! Re: VMS 7.2 can't see a cd Re: VMS and 100 meg Ethernet. VMS client for the Big Brother network monitor Re: VMS Support for 4D30T ????  F ----------------------------------------------------------------------  % Date: Sat, 02 Sep 2000 02:13:59 -0400 * From: David A Froble <davef@tsoft-inc.com>; Subject: Re: Here we go again - WTB/T/etc source listing CD - Message-ID: <39B09AA7.66B8B67B@tsoft-inc.com>    walkerp1@my-deja.com wrote:  > B > > Did you actually tell them you bought a bootleg copy on Ebay??J > > Having a copy in your possesion doesn't constitute a license.  You canG > > get that dumpster diving, I'm sure.  Having a license requires that I > > you paid the fee to Compaq that you seem determined to get around.  I 5 > > doubt that Ebay passed any royalties onto Compaq.  > >  > > bill > E > I've been watching the fische sales at E-Bay out of curiosity since F > this thread began, and they all suddenly got pulled :)  In fact, theH > history file has been purged as well.  I wonder if DEQ had a talk with > E-Bay? >  > Paul > ( > Sent via Deja.com http://www.deja.com/ > Before you buy.   P Darn!  Guess I'm stuck with the set I have in the back of some drawer somewhere. :-)    Dave   --  4 David Froble                       Tel: 724-529-04504 Dave Froble Enterprises, Inc.      Fax: 724-529-0596> DFE Ultralights, Inc.              E-Mail: davef@tsoft-inc.com6 T-Soft, Inc.  170 Grimplin Road  Vanderbilt, PA  15486   ------------------------------   Date: 2 Sep 2000 08:57:26 -0500 9 From: Kilgallen@eisner.decus.org.nospam (Larry Kilgallen) ; Subject: Re: Here we go again - WTB/T/etc source listing CD + Message-ID: <2egdYa58yCmx@eisner.decus.org>   Z In article <39B09AA7.66B8B67B@tsoft-inc.com>, David A Froble <davef@tsoft-inc.com> writes: > walkerp1@my-deja.com wrote:  >>  C >> > Did you actually tell them you bought a bootleg copy on Ebay?? K >> > Having a copy in your possesion doesn't constitute a license.  You can H >> > get that dumpster diving, I'm sure.  Having a license requires thatJ >> > you paid the fee to Compaq that you seem determined to get around.  I6 >> > doubt that Ebay passed any royalties onto Compaq. >> >	 >> > bill  >>  F >> I've been watching the fische sales at E-Bay out of curiosity sinceG >> this thread began, and they all suddenly got pulled :)  In fact, the I >> history file has been purged as well.  I wonder if DEQ had a talk with 	 >> E-Bay?  >>   >> Paul  >>  ) >> Sent via Deja.com http://www.deja.com/  >> Before you buy. > R > Darn!  Guess I'm stuck with the set I have in the back of some drawer somewhere. > :-)   @ If you got a private copy from a former employer (for instance),= it does not pose a tremendous threat to Compaq's intellectual > property rights.  But if they allow public auctions to proceed> without challenging them, that might be taken as evidence they= had stopped taking reasonable measures to guard their rights, 1 and they might lose those rights in a court case.    ------------------------------  # Date: Sat, 02 Sep 2000 14:03:24 GMT = From: system@SendSpamHere.ORG (Brian Schenkenberger, VAXman-) ; Subject: Re: Here we go again - WTB/T/etc source listing CD 0 Message-ID: <009EF84D.7EEF767D@SendSpamHere.ORG>  g In article <2egdYa58yCmx@eisner.decus.org>, Kilgallen@eisner.decus.org.nospam (Larry Kilgallen) writes: [ >In article <39B09AA7.66B8B67B@tsoft-inc.com>, David A Froble <davef@tsoft-inc.com> writes:  >> walkerp1@my-deja.com wrote: >>> D >>> > Did you actually tell them you bought a bootleg copy on Ebay??L >>> > Having a copy in your possesion doesn't constitute a license.  You canI >>> > get that dumpster diving, I'm sure.  Having a license requires that K >>> > you paid the fee to Compaq that you seem determined to get around.  I 7 >>> > doubt that Ebay passed any royalties onto Compaq.  >>> > 
 >>> > bill >>> G >>> I've been watching the fische sales at E-Bay out of curiosity since H >>> this thread began, and they all suddenly got pulled :)  In fact, theJ >>> history file has been purged as well.  I wonder if DEQ had a talk with
 >>> E-Bay? >>>  >>> Paul >>> * >>> Sent via Deja.com http://www.deja.com/ >>> Before you buy.  >>  S >> Darn!  Guess I'm stuck with the set I have in the back of some drawer somewhere.  >> :-) > A >If you got a private copy from a former employer (for instance), > >it does not pose a tremendous threat to Compaq's intellectual? >property rights.  But if they allow public auctions to proceed ? >without challenging them, that might be taken as evidence they > >had stopped taking reasonable measures to guard their rights,2 >and they might lose those rights in a court case.  H What about other abuses going "without challenging them"?  It just seemsH to me that unless the lawyers can find some lucrative angle to litigate,I the abuse continues unabated.  Others, of course, don't really care about I the actual litigation per se, only how to use it to inflict the greatest  I amount of pain, anguish and interference upon the defendant.  The term is I abuse of process.  I don't see DEC/Compaq taking either course of action. I They certainly don't want the publicity of the "abuse of process" and the H actual damages -- cost of the source license -- outweigh the legal cost.J There is the chance of punative damages being awarded but if for an indiv-I idual, DEC/Compaq still wouldn't be able to squeeze enough out to make it H worth their while either.  Now, another company with a name derived fromF within a name wouldn't care as abuse of process is its modus operandi.   --O VAXman- OpenVMS APE certification number: AAA-0001     VAXman(at)TMESIS(dot)COM    ------------------------------  % Date: Sat, 02 Sep 2000 02:24:16 -0400 * From: David A Froble <davef@tsoft-inc.com>& Subject: Re: Latent bug in 6.1 Backup?- Message-ID: <39B09D10.B96CE74E@tsoft-inc.com>    Randy Park wrote:  > 5 > Could I have found a bug in Backup 6.1 (Vax)?  This 5 > one has got me stumped, and I've got about 18 years 2 > of experience programming and managing small VMS
 > systems. > 5 > I backed up over 500 files (60+MB) into 7 different 6 > savesets on my OpenVMS VAX 6.1 system.  The savesets8 > were disk files. I copied them (binary mode) to a ZIP-4 > 100 drive on my Windows 98SE PC.  Took the disk to4 > a remote site 5 miles away to reverse the process.6 > After restoring the VMS attributes, all the savesets/ > restore correctly except one where it reports 7 > an 'excessive error rate reading ...' error mesage on  > the 20th file in the saveset.  > 5 > After cursing the mogul from Redmond I went back to 7 > my original computer and issued a BACKUP/LIST command 6 > on the errant saveset.  Lo and behold I get the same6 > error message.  Ok, so assuming sun spots were a bit: > too active when I created the first saveset, I recreated6 > it, but this time not specifying /NOCRC.  (I usually8 > use /NOCRC when the output is a disk file.)  No errors8 > on the backup.  Let's try to get a listing. Same error7 > but now on a different file, one that is farther down 6 > the list.  Hmmm.  Let's try a backup again, same set6 > of files, but use /VERIFY.  Now I get the same error6 > on the verify pass.  Ok, do we have any disk errors?9 > SHOW ERROR and SHOW DEV/FULL say no error on any disks.  > 5 > I'm stumped.  Is this possibly a backup bug in 6.1? 9 > Command used:  BACKUP/LOG/INTERCHANGE input output/SAVE   H V6.1 was, I believe, the one with IMAGE backup or restore problems on anK upgrade.  It's been a while.  Possibly a connection.  I haven't trusted 6.1  backup since that problem.  O I've never used the /INTERCHANGE qualifier.  Looked it up to see what it does.  C Shouldn't matter.  Still, have you tried it without that qualifier?   M What's a bit funny is that it's always the same save set.  Possible errors in P the disk structure/directory structure/whatever.  Have you did an ANALYSE /DISK?   Just some thoughts.    Dave   --  4 David Froble                       Tel: 724-529-04504 Dave Froble Enterprises, Inc.      Fax: 724-529-0596> DFE Ultralights, Inc.              E-Mail: davef@tsoft-inc.com6 T-Soft, Inc.  170 Grimplin Road  Vanderbilt, PA  15486   ------------------------------  ! Date: Sat, 02 Sep 00 07:33:00 GMT  From: jmfbahciv@aol.com 1 Subject: Re: MG20 (was Re: Q: Why not (2^n)-bit?) + Message-ID: <8oql8v$4i5$3@bob.news.rcn.net>   3 In article <qhu2c0aq5i.fsf_-_@ruckus.brouhaha.com>, 7    Eric Smith <eric-no-spam-for-me@brouhaha.com> wrote: > >alderson@netcom2.netcom.com (Richard M. Alderson III) writes:E >> The followups seemed to say that MG20 was NFG for Tops-10 systems, - >> apparently taking us down the garden path.  > C >AFAIK, the MG20 works fine with TOPS-10, as did the MF20.  They're H >actually nearly identical, with higher-capacity DRAM chips in the MG20,* >but all the same control logic, ECC, etc. > G >The only problem with using the MA20, MB20, MF20, or MG20 with TOPS-10 D >is that it is not multi-ported memory, so it can't support multipleF >CPUs or external (non-RH20) data channels.  Thus it was only suitable) >for smaller DECsystem-10 configurations.  > E >If DEC had designed a fast multiported semiconductor memory box with C >some ports that would connect directly to the KL10 S-bus interface D >(rather than the DMA20 KI memory bus adapter), they would have soldD >a lot of them.  I imagine that the cancelled product Barb mentioned$ >must have been something like this.  > It's also possible that the name simply got recycled since theA multi-port memory project never got shipped :-).  That's probably ; one reason I never could keep a score card and just left it  as one of those guy-things :-).   > I'd be very embarrassed to tell you all how long it took me to= figure out that gate-array wasn't gater-A.  Since I never got 9 hardware specs, I rarely saw the word but heard it a lot. - People in Massachusetts speak with an accent.      /BAH  ' Subtract a hundred and four for e-mail.    ------------------------------  $ Date: Sat, 2 Sep 2000 11:23:03 -0400' From: "Bill Todd" <billtodd@foo.mv.com> 1 Subject: Re: MG20 (was Re: Q: Why not (2^n)-bit?) ( Message-ID: <8or5q2$6eq$1@pyrite.mv.net>  J <jmfbahciv@aol.com> wrote in message news:8oql8v$4i5$3@bob.news.rcn.net...   ...   @ > I'd be very embarrassed to tell you all how long it took me to? > figure out that gate-array wasn't gater-A.  Since I never got ; > hardware specs, I rarely saw the word but heard it a lot. / > People in Massachusetts speak with an accent.   H But that would have *helped*:  a gate-array is still a gate-array, but a gater-A becomes a gaytah-A.   $ - bill (who mixes MA with ME - ayuh)   >  >  > /BAH > ) > Subtract a hundred and four for e-mail.    ------------------------------  ! Date: Sat, 02 Sep 00 07:23:40 GMT  From: jmfbahciv@aol.com " Subject: Re: Q: Why not (2^n)-bit?+ Message-ID: <8oqkne$4i5$1@bob.news.rcn.net>   0 In article <39B0349F.76E57914@bellatlantic.net>,)    hg/jb <shsrms@bellatlantic.net> wrote:  >  >  >jmfbahciv@aol.com wrote:  >>  
 >><<snip>> >>   >> A simulator is not hardware. C >As I found out!!  I learn more and more that I know less and less! 
 >thanks barb!   % I believe that's called maturing :-).    /BAH  ' Subtract a hundred and four for e-mail.    ------------------------------  ! Date: Sat, 02 Sep 00 07:29:12 GMT  From: jmfbahciv@aol.com " Subject: Re: Q: Why not (2^n)-bit?+ Message-ID: <8oql1q$4i5$2@bob.news.rcn.net>   6 In article <ALDERSON.00Sep1114709@netcom2.netcom.com>,?    alderson@netcom2.netcom.com (Richard M. Alderson III) wrote: E >In article <8olgmn$8f8$2@bob.news.rcn.net> jmfbahciv@aol.com writes:  > < >> I thought I had included a caveat about the nomenclature  >>(I never really got J >> all that hardware mumbo-jumbo straight in my head).  Ok, since the MG20G >> existed, then the memory project that was cancelled wasn't the MG20.  >   >You did include such a caveat;    Ah, OK.  :-)  . > ...my reply was simply to prod whoever mightH >remember the designation of the cancelled memory into speaking up.  TheJ >followups seemed to say that MG20 was NFG for Tops-10 systems, apparently  >taking us down the garden path.  A Not SMP systems, anyway.  The 1091 wouldn't even have happened if = somebody sane (Alan Titcomb) hadn't funded the project.  That > was another TOPS10 project that was a midnight hack (I'm using; the word hack in the proper way...not the idiocy that seems  to have evolved).  >  >Sorry for the confusion.   ? Don't be sorry.  It seems that everytime somebody gets confused ! more stuff gets talked about :-).    /BAH  ' Subtract a hundred and four for e-mail.    ------------------------------  # Date: Sat, 02 Sep 2000 07:23:43 GMT  From: Dirk Munk <munk@home.nl>* Subject: Re: Sun Hardware problems persist' Message-ID: <39B0AAFA.EB892753@home.nl>    "J. McLean" wrote: > 	 > Andrew,  > C > Even by your usual standards your responses on this matter of Sun F > hardware have been pretty abysmal. In regard to your diatribe at theI > base of this posting I have a some questions and some comments for you.  > A > 1.  Are you are saying that Sun fail to advise their clients of H > appropriate environmental conditions for the servers they are about toJ > purchase and that they may be voiding warranties if these conditions areI > not met ?  If this is the case I'm not sure who is the more stupid, you H > company for accepting conditions way outside those which are certifiedE > or the customers for selecting a vendor who fails provide them with  > vital information. > I > 2.   The last time I saw static discharges playing havoc with a machine I > was in 1980 when I was working near a HP-1000 machine sited in a normal G > office environment.  A couple of anti-stat mats later and the problem H > disappeared.  From the days of Micro-Vax II's (ie. mid 1980's) DigitalI > proved that it could build a machine which would be so well constructed E > that static electricity discharges from a normal office environment  > would not cause problems.  > J > Are Sun engineers still unable to design the hardware to cope with these > situations ? > E > (BTW, according to media reports, Sun have advised their clients to J > reduce the temperature in the computer room but if the concern is staticH > electricty, why is there no mention of the various anti-static devices > ?) > B > 3.  A few years ago I was on a site where one aircon unit in theG > computer failed and the trip mechanism to the other unit also failed. G > We called the aircon engineers and tried to wait for them rather than G > disrupt about 150 users.  At a room temperature of 28C (about 85F) we F > decided it would be prudent to shut down the 3 Alpha servers runningG > VMS  which so far had not given us the slightest worry.  I think that G > the only machines in the entire computer room to fail were about 4 of 8 > the 6 Sun workstations and 1 or 2 other non-DEC boxes.  A I once had a similar problem. No airco and the temperature in the  computerroom was > 40C !A RJ45 plugs were soft etc, but the Alphas kept running, with their 7 temperature alarm beepers making a lot of noice ...          > I > It look like VMS is not only more robust than Sun's offerings but so is  > the hardware that it runs on.  > I > 4. According to the various online media reports Sun have very recently H > admitted that perhaps they were unwise to resort to NDA's.  Someone inI > Sun now has the temerity to say that as regards quality, they have gone 8 > from the back of the class to being the class leaders. > = > When Sun makes statements like this it shows that as far as I > understanding what Quality really means, they are still way at the back  > of the class.  > C > 5.  As Terry Shannon said recently, all manufacturer's have their J > hardware problems and that is fair enough.  What is most alarming in theJ > current situation is that Sun engineers have had more than six months toJ > find the cause and correct the problem, and yet nothing of substance hasF > been done.  It is starting to look like some kind of inherent designF > fault that the engineers cannot or will not fix.   It really appearsJ > that throughout the whole exercise the only department in Sun that seemsA > to have been busy on the problem is the "department of creative  > excuses".R > @ > Andrew, when you have something of substance to say we will beC > interested to read it, but please stop trying to cover up for theM9 > incompetence of your colleagues in this current fiasco.i > I > You have been digging yourself a hole with your postings and most of us J > understand that the wisest action now is to stop digging; I am surprised3 > that you didn't know that and have not been told.f > 
 > John McLeans > * > Andrew Harrison SUNUK Consultancy wrote: > >n > > Rob Young wrote: > >eu > > > In article <39AE62FF.5D19D867@uk.sun.com>, Andrew Harrison SUNUK Consultancy <andrew.nospam@uk.sun.com> writes:g > > >a > > > > O > > > > As I said re-read the last paragraph and note the action the datacenterb) > > > > manager took and note the result.0 > > > >SR > > > > What did he say, we were having problems we reduced the temperature in ourF > > > > datacenter and the problem went away, what does that tell you. > > > >y > > > O > > > > So here is a question, do you know what causes the majority of hardwarey? > > > > failures on all systems not just Sun's but all systems.- > > >eN > > >         Ummmmm... using the same crappy design as a Sun high-end server?N > > >         Just a guess.  Actually, you're probably after "heat."  I'll buyO > > >         that.  Funny how much of this Sun hardware is surrounded by othersJ > > >         hardware that works fine.  Must be a tough sell to push thatM > > >         "heat" angle in a 75 degree computer room where everything else % > > >         is just fine.  Spin on!s > > >t > >oD > > Sorry wrong the biggest cause of hardware failure on all systemsH > > not just Sun's is static discharge. Some studies have put it as high > > as 70% of all failures.e > >p@ > > Now people who know what they are talking about will now sayC > > well Rob was sort of right though he didn't realise why because1J > > heat is a contributing factor to making static discharges more likely. > >:N > > But it isn't the only cause, the kind of floor you have in your datacenterT > > is a contributory factor and a whole host of other variables. Where the machines[ > > are in a datacenter is also an issue, being on the row next to any of the main walkwaysa^ > > for example particularly if you have the wrong flooring and other issues like low relativeN > > humidity will expose those machines to a higher chance of failure than theP > > machines in the same datacenter that are not next door to the main walkways. > >eP > > Paradoxically Rob you may think that the publicity about Sun's Ecache issuesH > > has caused a negative impact on Sun's image with its major customers > > and for some this is true. > >:R > > However a lot of customers have turned arround and said after their datacenterP > > assessment that Sun was the first vendor who has ever explained to them whatQ > > the issues are and why they should take the actions we have recommended. FromoW > > you posting it would appear that although you are unlikely to thank Sun for puttingkT > > you in the picture you would at leat have learnt something that would be usefullP > > to help you keep all the systems in your datacenter running without hardware
 > > failures.m > >iR > > Most customers seem to assume that if they keep systems within their operatingR > > temperature ranges and humidity ranges they will be reliable, when in fact theS > > systems will be more reliable (from all vendors) if they are operated in a muchr1 > > tighter range of temperatures and humidities.t > >dM > > Your post reveals that you like the majority of customers were completely S > > unaware of the fact that the majority of the hardware failures you have seen onmV > > all the computer systems you have used have been caused by static, Sun's, Compaqs,N > > Digital boxes etc. Why didn't you know, if you had known earlier would youU > > (even with Compaqs etc) have taken more care of the environment that your systemstT > > run in ? would you for example have carpet tiles in you datacenter ? you may notT > > but people do ? would you monitor the relative humidity of the envrionment ? youR > > may but many people don't ? would you make sure that the sub-floor pressure is> > > is correct ? that the sub-floor is clean ? etc etc etc etc > >dO > > Your datacenter practice may well be exemplary in which case you don't needsP > > to worry about these issues but the fact that you didn't appear to know whatO > > the single most important cause of hardware failure is implies that if your-P > > datacenter is well managed it is not because people are aware of the issues,, > > or they havn't communicated this to you. > >s > > RegardsA > > Andrew Harrison  > > Enterprise IT Architect    ------------------------------  % Date: Sat, 02 Sep 2000 04:44:30 -0400o- From: JF Mezei <jfmezei.spamnot@videotron.ca> * Subject: Re: Sun Hardware problems persist, Message-ID: <39B0BDE9.32861FA6@videotron.ca>   Dirk Munk wrote:C > I once had a similar problem. No airco and the temperature in the  > computerroom was > 40C !C > RJ45 plugs were soft etc, but the Alphas kept running, with theiry5 > temperature alarm beepers making a lot of noice ...o  M Tandem had/has machines called "Cyclones".  They were noisy beasts because of K all the fans they had. But the tech had told me that because of those fans,oG the machines resist temperature "extremes" much better since the highertB ventilation volume allows more than adequate cooling even when air conditioning fails.a  L Remember that heat buildup is what is dangerous. As long as the chips aren'tN allowed to get too hot, you're OK. And I suspect that chips internally sustainD temperatures that are significantly higher than the recommended roomB temperature for computers (unless the later is poorly ventilated).  L I beleive disk drives are also in the same case. You need proper ventilation& or they will fail due to heat buildup.   ------------------------------  % Date: Sat, 02 Sep 2000 13:40:41 -0400 2 From: rdeininger@mindspring.com (Robert Deininger)* Subject: Re: Sun Hardware problems persistL Message-ID: <rdeininger-0209001340410001@user-2iveaoq.dialup.mindspring.com>  G In article <39B0AAFA.EB892753@home.nl>, Dirk Munk <munk@home.nl> wrote:e    G > > (BTW, according to media reports, Sun have advised their clients tohL > > reduce the temperature in the computer room but if the concern is staticJ > > electricty, why is there no mention of the various anti-static devices  K Well, when it gets cool enough, maybe condensation will stop all that nastyu1 static electricity.  Maybe that's what Sun meant.    --   Robert Deininger rdeininger@mindspring.coma   ------------------------------   Date: 2 Sep 2000 12:16:36 GMTo& From: Cthulhu <cthulhu@kadath.deep.it># Subject: Re: TCPIP$FTP Bugchecking!h( Message-ID: <8oqr34$i0$1@kadath.deep.it>  0 Mark D. Jilson <jilly@clarityconnect.com> wrote:  $ > $ ANA/CRASH SYS$SYSTEM:SYSDUMP.DMP > READ/EXECh > READ SYS$SYSTEM:SYSDEF > SET LOG {file.ext}1 > SHOW CRASH ! Make sure to press <CR> thru everyn, > SHOW STACK ! screen that will be presented  * Ok, thanks, it said a lot of funny things.> Now, I suppose I should refer to "OpenVMS System Dump Analyze"
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 	learning, 	   Cthulhu    -- t  G        Ph'nglui mglw'nafh Cthulhu http://www.rlyeh.it wgah'nagl fhtgan!e# 		        <cthulhu at rlyeh dot it>m   ------------------------------  # Date: Sat, 02 Sep 2000 16:41:07 GMTs) From: "Neil Rieck" <n.rieck@sympatico.ca> # Subject: Re: VMS 7.2 can't see a cd < Message-ID: <D4as5.224965$1h3.4076667@news20.bellglobal.com>  G I'd like to see the exact error message before I comment. However, manydL older machines didn't ever expect to see something like a CD-ROM and usuallyJ have problems mounting disks that are always read-only. For example, on anE older VAX-4300 a CD-ROM must be mounted with the /NOWRITE switch. Tryc something like:   % $mou DEVICE_NAME: /over=ident/nowrite   I BTW, this is more of a device firmware problem than a VMS 7.2 problem :-)W  
 Neil Rieck Kitchener/Waterloo/Cambridge,  Ontario, Canada.! http://www3.sympatico.ca/n.rieck/e6 http://www3.sympatico.ca/n.rieck/docs/alpha_diary.html  C "Charles Kronenwetter" <ckronenw@earth.execpc.com> wrote in message 1 news:39a58b21$0$56644$392904a7@news.execpc.com...kE > I have a Vaxstation 3100 mod 30 with which I am attempting to use a-K > Toshiba scsi cdrom. I can see the drive on the bus correctly with the SHO K > DEV command at bootup. I can run standalone backup (from the VMS HobbyestgL > cdrom) without problem. I can copy the saveset information without problemK > to one of the other scsi disks.  When, however, I run VMS 7.2 and attemptbF > to mount the same cdrom, I get an error indicating that media is notI > present and the drive will not mount.  Is this a bug with 7.2 or is VMS J > just fussier in its choice of cdroms? Why the difference between VMS 7.2 > and standalone backup? >  > C Kronenwetter > Milwaukee, Wir >l   ------------------------------  # Date: Sat, 02 Sep 2000 14:23:37 GMTa8 From: Veli =?iso-8859-1?Q?K=F6rkk=F6?= <korkko@decus.fi>% Subject: Re: VMS and 100 meg Ethernetn( Message-ID: <39B0B0A8.1CC8CCBF@decus.fi>  A The problem  with setting DE500 to fixed setting is just that you @ would have to really change the other end also to the SAME FIXED setting.  A If the switch port is on AUTO-NEG and DE500 is FASTFD, the switch = port will probably goto 100Mbit/s Half Duplex mode and result2 is terribly performance.  < Usually it should be pretty safe to set DE500 to Half Duplex@ speed whatever fixed mode if the other end is on AUTO and cannot= be changed (at all or by you or the local IM/net people just   will not change it for you!)  , I would not set NIC to FULL DUPLEX blindly.   = And maybe these PCs that "so reliably" detect correct settinge: do not actually really do so but rather people hardly ever9 know what is wrong. When they suspect something they justb, reboot PC a few times until it feels better!  = Btw, I have portable that has 100Mbit/s PCMCIA card. Actuallyg= it can only to 10Mbit/s whilst it appears to on 100Mbit mode.i   _velit   "Richard B. Gilbert" wrote:  > F >         Unless you are very lucky, 10/100 Ethernet controllers don't > auto-negotiate very well.a? > The "standards" seem to be loose enough to allow incompatibley8 > implementations.  Shut down to the console prompt and: >  > >>>SET EWA0 FASTFD& > and reboot.  It's as simple as that. > % > Message text written by "David Ash"sL > >When I originally installed VMS 7.2 on my Alpha 600au it was plugged into > aoM > 10meg half duplex hub. Later when we moved the Alpha to a 100meg switch theaE > system continued to work on the network but it didn't automaticallysK > autonegotiate its speed up to 100meg full duplex even after a reboot. CanyM > any of you tell me how to get the Alpha to run the Ethernet card at 100meg?a
 > Thanks.<   ------------------------------  # Date: Sat, 02 Sep 2000 15:19:05 GMTl! From: Ian Parker <parker@gol.com>l7 Subject: VMS client for the Big Brother network monitort& Message-ID: <8xwm1DApkRs5Ewp9@gol.com>  G We've been rolling out the Big Brother monitor (http://bb4.com) on some-E of our Solaris and Tru64 systems and it's working well (and extremelym< cheaply).   We'd like to use it one the VMS systems as well.  @ There seem to have been some attempts at porting the UNIX clientG software to VMS but the only one I've been able to track down is rathere old and limited.  / Does anyone have a more recent or capable port?t   IanI   ------------------------------   Date: 2 Sep 2000 08:54:22 -0500o9 From: Kilgallen@eisner.decus.org.nospam (Larry Kilgallen) ' Subject: Re: VMS Support for 4D30T ????h+ Message-ID: <p1u4AcgcG7Ui@eisner.decus.org>p  D If it was not economical for DEQ, I doubt it would be economical forB someone else.  Custom-built graphics drivers seems to me likely to' pose a problem as the X-server changes.m  ^ In article <sr0l3igvc5d49@corp.supernews.com>, "Island Computers" <sales@islandco.com> writes:& > Anyone want to write a driver for it >  > We'll pay you !B >  > We have 40-50 of these, so...t >  > Davida > A > "Hoff Hoffman" <hoffman@xdelta.zko.dec.nospam> wrote in messageb2 > news:8oopd8$6hu$1@mailint03.im.hou.compaq.com... >>F >> :On Fri, 1 Sep 2000 09:13:16 -0400, "Islandco" <sales@islandco.com>
 >> :wrote:J >> :Anyone know if there is a way to get the 4D30T working under VMS/Motif >>I >>   Either write a driver for it, or replace it with a supported widget.m >>- >>  --------------------------- pure personalr% > opinion ---------------------------l2 >>    Hoff (Stephen) Hoffman   OpenVMS Engineering > hoffman#xdelta.zko.dec.com >> >  >    ------------------------------   End of INFO-VAX 2000.491 ************************heir rights,2 >and they might lose those rights in a court case.  H What about other abuses going "without challenging them"?  It just seemsH to me that unless the lawyers can find some lucrative angle to litigate,I the abuse continues unabated.  Others, of course, don't really care about I the actual litigation per se, only how to use it to inflict the greatest  I amount of pain, anguish and interference upon the defendant.  The term is I abuse of process.  I don't see DEC/Compaq 7k-hLǃk`Aix})mόwo4]FFyfO[rn@ӆ1Px\+ʅ1t}~ܯfԁBRsy
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