1 INFO-VAX	Sun, 03 Sep 2000	Volume 2000 : Issue 493       Contents:3 " WE currently hiring SERIOUS HOMEWORKERS Position: ) Alpha 200 4/233 firmware upgrade question - Re: Alpha 200 4/233 firmware upgrade question 2 Re: Here we go again - WTB/T/etc source listing CD( Re: MG20 (was Re: Q: Why not (2^n)-bit?)& Re: Please help a poorly Microvax 3100$ Re: Portable GUIs (VMS+Windows-NT) ? Re: Q: Why not (2^n)-bit?  Re: scsi tape drive  Re: scsi tape drive  Re: scsi tape drive ! Re: Sun Hardware problems persist ( Re: TCP/IP 5.0A PatchList or ECO SummaryE Re: Upgrade path from VMS 6.1 for my "New" uVAX 3100 ? Also FAQ stuff  Re: VMS Support for 4D30T ????  F ----------------------------------------------------------------------  % Date: Sun, 03 Sep 2000 18:55:12 +1200  From: REN <nzchch@usa.net>< Subject: " WE currently hiring SERIOUS HOMEWORKERS Position:@ Message-ID: <20000903065511.KTPQ961729.mta5-rme.xtra.co.nz@gaza>  z " WE currently hiring SERIOUS HOMEWORKERS Position: Home Typist, Clerk, Secretary, Mail Processing, Supervisor, Manager...   h Earn $3,500 -$5,000 per month! Experience is NOT necessary. Part time/full time. ANYWHERE in the world!    X This is a GREAT and EASY home business to start and REAL job for everyone. Apply now  :   U This is not a get rich quick scheme this is a home business so if your are interested > in working at home in your own time and being with your family please contact me.  U In my second month I made $600USD working from home in my own time being my own boss.   # For more infomation please apply to    homeworker67@alloymail.com     Subject:homeworker. Please write short text those who are serious.   Thankyou for your time   Rachel   Mother of 1    ------------------------------  $ Date: Sun, 3 Sep 2000 10:27:44 -0500+ From: "James L. Wiley" <Wiley@Tarleton.edu> 2 Subject: Alpha 200 4/233 firmware upgrade question( Message-ID: <8otqms$l7q$1@news.tamu.edu>  J I recently bought the Open/VMS Hobbiest CD and am trying to install VMS onL an Alpha 200 4/233.  The installation gets far enough to tell me that I needH more current firmware on the Alpha.  I have downloaded the firmware to a floppy.  The instructions say:  L ARC Console: Place the floppy in the target system, and from the ARC Console$ menu, select "Install new firmware".F AlphaBIOS Console: Place the floppy in the target system, and from the* AlphaBIOS menu, select "Update AlphaBIOS".  L I can't find either one of these menus.  The firmware running on the machine now is version 6.1-2.   L I don't have access to a firmware CD.  Is there any way to load the firmware from the floppy?   Thanks   James L. Wiley Wiley@Tarleton.edu   ------------------------------  % Date: Sun, 03 Sep 2000 11:32:55 -0500 7 From: "David J. Dachtera" <djesys.nospam@earthlink.net> 6 Subject: Re: Alpha 200 4/233 firmware upgrade question- Message-ID: <39B27D37.7600DE91@earthlink.net>    "James L. Wiley" wrote:  > L > I recently bought the Open/VMS Hobbiest CD and am trying to install VMS onN > an Alpha 200 4/233.  The installation gets far enough to tell me that I needJ > more current firmware on the Alpha.  I have downloaded the firmware to a  > floppy.  The instructions say: > N > ARC Console: Place the floppy in the target system, and from the ARC Console& > menu, select "Install new firmware".H > AlphaBIOS Console: Place the floppy in the target system, and from the, > AlphaBIOS menu, select "Update AlphaBIOS". > N > I can't find either one of these menus.  The firmware running on the machine > now is version 6.1-2.  > N > I don't have access to a firmware CD.  Is there any way to load the firmware > from the floppy?  G Try this: turn the unit off, insert the floppy and power it back on. It C may see the floppy on power-up and execute the fwupdate.exe program B (that's the name it needs to have on the diskette, unless I'm very
 mistaken).  1 If that doesn't work, what happens when you type:    >>>arc  + ...at the "dead sargeant" (console) prompt?    --   David J. Dachtera  dba DJE Systems  http://www.djesys.com/  : Unofficial Affordable OpenVMS Home Page and Message Board: http://www.djesys.com/vms/soho/   F This *IS* an OpenVMS-related newsgroup. So, a certain bias in postings is to be expected.  @ Feel free to exercise your rights of free speech and expression.  F However, attacks against individual posters, or groups of posters, are strongly discouraged.    ------------------------------  # Date: Sun, 03 Sep 2000 11:12:28 GMT = From: system@SendSpamHere.ORG (Brian Schenkenberger, VAXman-) ; Subject: Re: Here we go again - WTB/T/etc source listing CD 0 Message-ID: <009EF8FE.C82C9DAB@SendSpamHere.ORG>  \ In article <39B171F3.B7F1E892@videotron.ca>, JF Mezei <jfmezei.spamnot@videotron.ca> writes: >Larry Kilgallen wrote: A >> property rights.  But if they allow public auctions to proceed A >> without challenging them, that might be taken as evidence they @ >> had stopped taking reasonable measures to guard their rights,4 >> and they might lose those rights in a court case. >  > J >When they sell you the listing CDs, do they make you agree that this is a) >non-transferable right to the listings ?     
 8. ASSIGNMENT G   8.1 This agreement, the licenses granted hereunder and the Source may G       not be assigned, sublicensed or otherwise transferred by CUSTOMER E       except as expressly provided herein, without the prior written         consent of DIGITAL.    --O VAXman- OpenVMS APE certification number: AAA-0001     VAXman(at)TMESIS(dot)COM    ------------------------------  ! Date: Sun, 03 Sep 00 07:03:43 GMT  From: jmfbahciv@aol.com 1 Subject: Re: MG20 (was Re: Q: Why not (2^n)-bit?) + Message-ID: <8ot7ub$o70$1@bob.news.rcn.net>   ( In article <8or5q2$6eq$1@pyrite.mv.net>,+    "Bill Todd" <billtodd@foo.mv.com> wrote:  > K ><jmfbahciv@aol.com> wrote in message news:8oql8v$4i5$3@bob.news.rcn.net...  >  >....  > A >> I'd be very embarrassed to tell you all how long it took me to @ >> figure out that gate-array wasn't gater-A.  Since I never got< >> hardware specs, I rarely saw the word but heard it a lot.0 >> People in Massachusetts speak with an accent. > I >But that would have *helped*:  a gate-array is still a gate-array, but a  >gater-A becomes a gaytah-A. > % >- bill (who mixes MA with ME - ayuh)   @ Except I'm from Michigan.  My brain just doesn't translate words; that way :-).  You have no idea how many times I've had to  < correct the spelling of my last name because the people here= converted the 'ga' to a 'ger' even though _I_ never pronounce  my name Huizenger.   /BAH  ' Subtract a hundred and four for e-mail.    ------------------------------   Date: 3 Sep 2000 07:20:50 GMT 7 From: cbh@REMOVE_THIS.teabag.fsnet.co.uk (Chris Hedley) / Subject: Re: Please help a poorly Microvax 3100 ) Message-ID: <8osu4i$125n$1@teabag.cbhnet>   - In article <39B1B9D6.83A47213@earthlink.net>, : 	"David J. Dachtera" <djesys.nospam@earthlink.net> writes:G > Well, I don't know if I'd go QUITE *THAT* far! You do, after all, get F > this display on the console terminal, correct? Do you need more than > that?   I The firmware is the variety (or at least this is the way it's configured) H that stops an autoboot if even minor (one "?") errors are detected, so IJ have to enter "B DKA200"  Not too much of an issue, except that it appearsF to be the same serial controller that handles both direct and terminalI keyboard input - getting messages *out* of the thing isn't a problem, but C there's that annoying heiroglyphics problem when trying to input...   G Shame, really, it was quite a nice little system.  Oh well, I suppose I E should start scouring the 2nd hand markets again (as I understamd it, G replacing the serial controller on a VS3100/76 is out of the question - B unless anyone knows different, that is!) (well, a guy can hope...)   Chris.   ------------------------------  % Date: Sun, 03 Sep 2000 11:29:46 -0400 ) From: yyyc186.illegaltospam_@flashcom.net - Subject: Re: Portable GUIs (VMS+Windows-NT) ? 9 Message-ID: <39b26ebf$4$lllp186$mr2ice@news.flashcom.com>   I In <3.0.5.32.20000829061417.009d4530@discovery.fuentez.com>, on 09/03/00  @    at 11:29 AM, Jim Jennis <jjennis@discovery.fuentez.com> said:  E Your term "licenses" seems to indicate there is a run time or royalty I agreement for this product.  I don't mind buying development licenses for G libraries, but absolutly refuse to pay royalties or ship run-times with  any product I use.  D Feel free to email me off-line as I don't get to the newsgroups much anymore.   Roland   >Hi Again Roland,   J >Actually, it DOES SUPPORT Motif, Win AND OS/2 Presentation Mgr.. I am notF >so sure if the OS/2 support is in the current version (since OS/2 hasJ >fallen out of favor so much), however, I KNOW it was there as of 1998. IfJ >you have a job to do with OS/2 (and you want to buy enough licenses) they >may be able to help you.   H >Anyway, I work with their R&D folks quite often, so if you have an OS/2I >job and want to look into Verastream (aka SuperNova), write me off line.   	 >Regards,    >Jim  ( >At 07:58 PM 8/28/2000 -0400, you wrote:1 >>In <8o8ee2$7pg$1@lisa.gemair.com>, on 08/28/00  A >>   at 07:58 PM, jordan@lisa.gemair.com (Jordan Henderson) said:  >> >>I >>Hmmm...too bad they don't support OS/2 with that GUI as well.  This was K >>always a question that kept coming up when Zinc was alive.  People wanted > >>them to add VMS support to the DOS & other platform support. >> >>Roland >>< >>>In article <39a6f538$1$lllp186$mr2ice@news.flashcom.com>,0 >>> <yyyc186.illegaltospam_@flashcom.net> wrote:8 >>>>In <spqk458487v104@corp.supernews.com>, on 08/25/00 F >>>>   at 06:37 PM, "Jim Jennis" <jjennis@discovery.fuentez.com> said: >>>> >>>>K >>>>Isn't WRQ the symbol for what used to be/is Wind River Systems?  If so,  >>>>the library is Zinc. >>>> >>J >>>No, I don't think so.  WRQ has been known by WRQ for years.  Their nameK >>>used to be Walker R.. Q... (I can't remember, which is probably why they  >>>simplified it to just WRQ.) >>J >>>I didn't know that they had a UI toolkit.  I was always quite impressedC >>>with their X-Windows Server for Windows and their Telnet client,  >>>Reflection. >>
 >>>>Roland >>>> >> >>>-Jordan Henderson >>>jordan@greenapple.com >>--  = >>----------------------------------------------------------- F >>yyyc186@flashcom.net              To Respond delete ".illegaltospam"8 >>                            MR/2 Internet Cruiser 1.52: >>                            For a Microsoft free univers= >>-----------------------------------------------------------  >> >>9 >-------------------------------------------------------- 8 >FSC - Building Better Information Technology Solutions-8 >      from the Production Floor to the Customer's Door.9 >-------------------------------------------------------- 6 >Jim Jennis, Technical Director for Commercial Systems >Fuentez Systems Concepts, Inc.  >1 Discovery Place, Suite 2  >Martinsburg, WV. 25401  >USA  $ >Phone: +001 (304) 263-0163 ext. 235 >Fax:   +001 (304) 263-0702 & >Email: jjennis@discovery.fuentez.com  >       jhjennis@shentel.net' >WEB: http://www.discovery.fuentez.com/    --  ; ----------------------------------------------------------- D yyyc186@flashcom.net              To Respond delete ".illegaltospam"6                             MR/2 Internet Cruiser 1.528                             For a Microsoft free univers; -----------------------------------------------------------    ------------------------------  ! Date: Sun, 03 Sep 00 07:04:50 GMT  From: jmfbahciv@aol.com " Subject: Re: Q: Why not (2^n)-bit?+ Message-ID: <8ot80d$o70$2@bob.news.rcn.net>   0 In article <39B1AF43.2A30749C@bellatlantic.net>,)    hg/jb <shsrms@bellatlantic.net> wrote:  >jmfbahciv@aol.com wrote:  >>  3 >> In article <39B0349F.76E57914@bellatlantic.net>, , >>    hg/jb <shsrms@bellatlantic.net> wrote: >> > >> > >> >jmfbahciv@aol.com wrote: >> >> 
 >> >><<snip>>  >> >> " >> >> A simulator is not hardware.F >> >As I found out!!  I learn more and more that I know less and less! >> >thanks barb! >>  ( >> I believe that's called maturing :-).H >I am really looking forward to puberty now, or should I say backward to	 >puberty!   5 I don't know about that.  I barely survived mine :-).    /BAH  ' Subtract a hundred and four for e-mail.    ------------------------------  % Date: Sun, 03 Sep 2000 11:19:50 -0400 ) From: yyyc186.illegaltospam_@flashcom.net  Subject: Re: scsi tape drive9 Message-ID: <39b26c34$1$lllp186$mr2ice@news.flashcom.com>   2 In <39AB0F8E.269F28A9@earthlink.net>, on 09/03/00 G    at 11:19 AM, "David J. Dachtera" <djesys.nospam@earthlink.net> said:   J There used to be an external TZ85 version which could read/write both, but- I don't remember the exact model designation.    Roland  + >yyyc186.illegaltospam_@flashcom.net wrote:  >>   >> All,  >>  I >> Need a model number for a tape drive which uses a STANDARD 50 pin SCSI M >> connection and is capable of reading/writing BOTH TK50 and TK70.  Internal K >> model is prefferable.  If external is all that is known need 68 pin Wide I >> Scsi model.  I recently bought an Alpha on E-bay and want a tape drive C >> that can transfer tapes to my MV3500 wich has a TK70 tape drive.   I >AFAIK, there never was a drive that could read *AND* write both TK50 and E >TK70. TK70 could read either, but would only write TK70 format. TK50 F >would only read TK50, and of course, only wrote TK50. Some folks haveJ >reported some success in degaussing TK50-Ks and re-INITIALIZE-ing them inF >TK70 drives, if memory serves (need for memory upgrade acknowledged).  7 >As usual, of course, I could be (probably am) wrong...      --  ; ----------------------------------------------------------- D yyyc186@flashcom.net              To Respond delete ".illegaltospam"6                             MR/2 Internet Cruiser 1.528                             For a Microsoft free univers; -----------------------------------------------------------    ------------------------------  % Date: Sun, 03 Sep 2000 11:21:11 -0400 ) From: yyyc186.illegaltospam_@flashcom.net  Subject: Re: scsi tape drive9 Message-ID: <39b26d80$2$lllp186$mr2ice@news.flashcom.com>   ; In <ySEq5.572$M62.226581@typhoon.aracnet.com>, on 09/03/00  B    at 11:21 AM, "Zane H. Healy" <healyzh@shell1.aracnet.com> said:  + >yyyc186.illegaltospam_@flashcom.net wrote: I >> Need a model number for a tape drive which uses a STANDARD 50 pin SCSI M >> connection and is capable of reading/writing BOTH TK50 and TK70.  Internal K >> model is prefferable.  If external is all that is known need 68 pin Wide I >> Scsi model.  I recently bought an Alpha on E-bay and want a tape drive C >> that can transfer tapes to my MV3500 wich has a TK70 tape drive.   G >If you're only trying to transfer data, why not simply cluster the two  >together and copy the data?    G Ummm because my 3500 is back at my real office 1.5 hours south of here.   ' > At least since you mention buying the 3 >hardware on eBay I'm assuming you're a Hobbyist.     G Actually I'm a consultant.  I have full commercial licenses for VMS and I BASIC on the 3500 to the tune of about $9k some years back.  I bought the H Alpha off ebay because I saw it there and needed a smaller (quieter) boxC which could be used in an apartment I keep close to my client site.      >If you've got data H >already on tapes that you need on a machine without a tape drive, againA >you can cluster the two together and retrieve the data that way.   I Actually I have a stack and a half of tapes, some of the TK70's I bought, J but the TK50's were all tossed my way from client sites.  For transferring2 source code between two sites they work just fine.    H >Personally I wouldn't mess with TK50's or TK70's if you don't have to. C >I'm using a cheap Exabyte 8mm jukebox, and a TLZ06 4mm drive on my J >OpenVMS systems.  Of course if you can afford it the way to go would be aJ >nice DLT7000 tape drive, with a pile of tapes (not sure what the DEC nameH >would be), however, it wouldn't be able to do anything with your TK50's >and TK70's.  I If I wanted to use DAT I have a Sony SDT-7000 sitting in a box.  There is H no SCSI card in the 3500 and I don't wish to buy one given they are many) thousands in price last time I looked....   G >Also I don't believe you'll find a drive that will read and write bothrF >TK50's and TK70's.  The best you'll find would be one that reads them2 >both.  However, remember ethernet is your friend!  G There used to be a version of the TZ85 which was capable of this, but I(" don't remember which model number.     Roland -- r; -----------------------------------------------------------:D yyyc186@flashcom.net              To Respond delete ".illegaltospam"6                             MR/2 Internet Cruiser 1.528                             For a Microsoft free univers; -----------------------------------------------------------    ------------------------------  % Date: Sun, 03 Sep 2000 11:26:14 -0400-) From: yyyc186.illegaltospam_@flashcom.net0 Subject: Re: scsi tape drive9 Message-ID: <39b26db6$3$lllp186$mr2ice@news.flashcom.com>M  . In <8of7g3$r8p$1@nnrp1.deja.com>, on 09/03/00 $    at 11:26 AM, risaac@usc.edu said:    H I usually deal with Lidon when I call there.  Thanks for the effort, but3 was looking to get more information before pricing.n   Roland  J >Call us a Continental Computers (310) 416-1200 ask for EZIE ISAAC he willH >be able to answer all your questions first hand.  With over 25 years ofE >DEC Experience he will give you the most effective way to solve your 	 >problem.o  	 >Also tryo   >www.conticomp.com    ' >Sent via Deja.com http://www.deja.com/e >Before you buy. -- l; ----------------------------------------------------------- D yyyc186@flashcom.net              To Respond delete ".illegaltospam"6                             MR/2 Internet Cruiser 1.528                             For a Microsoft free univers; ------------------------------------------------------------   ------------------------------  % Date: Sun, 03 Sep 2000 09:26:55 +0100J  From: Paul Sture <paul@sture.ch>* Subject: Re: Sun Hardware problems persist+ Message-ID: <VA.000000bd.278a55ea@sture.ch>m  M In article <rdeininger-0209001340410001@user-2iveaoq.dialup.mindspring.com>,   Robert Deininger wrote:T4 > From: rdeininger@mindspring.com (Robert Deininger) > Newsgroups: comp.os.vmst, > Subject: Re: Sun Hardware problems persist' > Date: Sat, 02 Sep 2000 13:40:41 -0400o > I > In article <39B0AAFA.EB892753@home.nl>, Dirk Munk <munk@home.nl> wrote:e >  > I > > > (BTW, according to media reports, Sun have advised their clients totN > > > reduce the temperature in the computer room but if the concern is staticL > > > electricty, why is there no mention of the various anti-static devices > M > Well, when it gets cool enough, maybe condensation will stop all that nastya3 > static electricity.  Maybe that's what Sun meant.e >aO This discussion of static and humidity has me somewhat baffled in the light of 0O both PDP and VAX systems I have seen over the years, which were running in the aO most appalling conditions, on factory floors, in cupboards, filthy offices and t: so on. Whilst some were ruggedized, the majority were not.  O Granted there's no way a top of the line Alpha should be expected to run error sL free under those conditions, and any service organisation would probably be 6 within the bounds of reason to refuse to support such.  A But it makes an interesting comparison with Andrew's explanation.t ___ 
 Paul Sture SwitzerlandC   ------------------------------   Date: 3 Sep 2000 18:25:53 +0200P* From: eplan@kapsch.net (Peter LANGSTOEGER)1 Subject: Re: TCP/IP 5.0A PatchList or ECO Summary.* Message-ID: <39b27b91$1@news.kapsch.co.at>  k In article <8op6fg$8re$1@mailint03.im.hou.compaq.com>, hoffman@xdelta.zko.dec.nospam (Hoff Hoffman) writes: X >In article <39b00fab$1@news.kapsch.co.at>, eplan@kapsch.net (Peter LANGSTOEGER) writes:M >:Yes, there are patches (unofficial, call your Qsupport) but not on the net.dK >:The latest I have (since Dec-1999) is PTRV50A-05. I don't know of a newerd" >:one, but this is not surprising. > F >  If folks are having specific problems with TCP/IP Services, please 7 >  contact the Compaq Customer Support Center directly.c  > I did. But there is no newer patch than the one from Dec-1999. Time to call again...g  : >  TCP/IP Services V5.0A ECO 1 is due circa October, 2000.  D So, the first ECO is only 15 months later than the bare V5.0A kit...  J Why do I have the feeling, that this is a very bad sign ? TCPIP is said toI be a vital part of VMS now and seeing no improvement for such a long timeaE is very frightening. And all this during the sensible phase of UCX tou TCPIP migration.  G After all the horror stories caused by marketing, this is one of only a J few engineering horror stories (PATHWORKS comes as another one to mind)...  ? No, Hoff, this is not your fault. So, please don't be offended.@! But someone has to think again...a   -- d< Peter "EPLAN" LANGSTOEGER           Tel.    +43 1 81111-2651; Network and OpenVMS system manager  Fax.    +43 1 81111-888t< FBFV/Information Services           E-mail  eplan@kapsch.netF <<< KAPSCH AG  Wagenseilgasse 1     PSImail PSI%(0232)281001141::EPLANH A-1121 VIENNA  AUSTRIA              "I'm not a pessimist, I'm a realist"N "VMS is today what Microsoft wants Windows NT V8.0 to be!" Compaq, 22-Sep-1998   ------------------------------  % Date: Sun, 03 Sep 2000 11:37:30 +0100a  From: Paul Sture <paul@sture.ch>N Subject: Re: Upgrade path from VMS 6.1 for my "New" uVAX 3100 ? Also FAQ stuff+ Message-ID: <VA.000000be.2801e336@sture.ch>t  J In article <8o6ub9$7op$2@mailint03.im.hou.compaq.com>, Hoff Hoffman wrote:4 > From: hoffman@xdelta.zko.dec.nospam (Hoff Hoffman) > Newsgroups: comp.os.vms-A > Subject: Re: Upgrade path from VMS 6.1 for my "New" uVAX 3100 ?o  > Date: 25 Aug 2000 23:09:29 GMT >  > P > In article <VA.000000a9.000fdb28@sture.ch>, Paul Sture <paul@sture.ch> writes:J > :I know I'm just being a bit lazy asking this, but does anyone know off = > :the top of their heads what the upgrade path to V7.2-1 is?s > J >   Um, I know I could be called lazy for mentioning this :-), but please 7 >   check the OpenVMS Frequently Asked Questions (FAQ).t > K >   In the August 2000 edition of the OpenVMS FAQ, you will find a section  E >   with (freshly-updated) OpenVMS upgrade path information included.o > 2 >   Notes:  1: there is no V7.2-1 for OpenVMS VAX.I >           2: The FAQ has details of a "wrinkle" lurking in the upgrade yH >              path specifically from OpenVMS VAX V6.1 to later OpenVMS F >              VAX releases, and the information you need to avoid it. >   ) Some "wrinkle" that turned out to be. :-)e  N The Australian site mentioned in the FAQ displayed a load of html as text for / the readme, so the link to the ECO didn't work.a   I managed to find the ECO at -O http://ftp11.support.compaq.com/public/vms/vax/v6.1/vaxback04_061.README - the (2 saveset, checksum etc were in links off that page.  3 However, trying a backup listing of this just gave:   P %BACKUP-E-READERRS, excessive error rate reading SYS$SYSROOT:[SYSMGR]VAXBACK04_0 61.B;1+ -BACKUP-E-HDRCRC, software header CRC error'4 %BACKUP-I-SPECIFY, specify option (QUIT or CONTINUE)  Q By dumping the file, I realised it was probably a self-extracting .exe. Renaming mP it as a .exe and running it duly extracted the file. A point mentioning here is O that the FTSV compression utility defaults the output file to version 1, so it 0( overwrote one of my earlier downloads...  M Whilst on the subject of the fine FAQ, the copy I originally downloaded from lQ c.o.v. showed that the TIME stuff was indeed there, although after the text "End 'K of Part 1/5", and with a load of message header info as if 2 posts had got lK merged (easily done, as both Netscape and my newsreader have a tendency to oL append to existing files rather then overwriting them when doing a Save As).     ___ 
 Paul Sture Switzerlandt   ------------------------------  $ Date: Sat, 2 Sep 2000 22:01:36 -0400- From: "Island Computers" <sales@islandco.com>-' Subject: Re: VMS Support for 4D30T ????0/ Message-ID: <sr4gl3gbc5d144@corp.supernews.com>    4d30 is the hercules cardM   More info ??   David-  7 "Peter LANGSTOEGER" <eplan@kapsch.net> wrote in message.$ news:39afd255$1@news.kapsch.co.at...< > In article <sqva3duec5d151@corp.supernews.com>, "Islandco" <sales@islandco.com> writes:I > >Anyone know if there is a way to get the 4D30T working under VMS/Motift > >g> > >if there is a patch , we would greatly appreciate the URL ! > B > I so far never heard of a 4D30T, but that doesn't mean anything.D > I heard of a 3D30 and 4D20 which will work with VMS (Open3D V4.9A)L > I also heard of a 4D20T which gets support through GRAPH (or later UPDATE) ECO.I > And I heard of a 4D40T, 4D50T, 4D51T and 4D60T which will NOT work withu VMS 0 > My guess is, that 4D30T will not run with VMS. >2: > But better wait for Fred to bring the definite answer... >r > --> > Peter "EPLAN" LANGSTOEGER           Tel.    +43 1 81111-2651= > Network and OpenVMS system manager  Fax.    +43 1 81111-888I> > FBFV/Information Services           E-mail  eplan@kapsch.netH > <<< KAPSCH AG  Wagenseilgasse 1     PSImail PSI%(0232)281001141::EPLANJ > A-1121 VIENNA  AUSTRIA              "I'm not a pessimist, I'm a realist"D > "VMS is today what Microsoft wants Windows NT V8.0 to be!" Compaq, 22-Sep-1998m   ------------------------------   End of INFO-VAX 2000.493 ************************