1 INFO-VAX	Thu, 07 Sep 2000	Volume 2000 : Issue 500       Contents:( %SYSTEM-F-EXBUFOBJLM explanation anyone? Re: apache beginner's question Re: apache beginner's question Apache V1.3-12 - DOA Re: Apache V1.3-12 - DOA Re: Apache V1.3-12 - DOA Re: Apache V1.3-12 - DOA RE: Apache V1.3-12 - DOA Re: Apache V1.3-12 - DOA Re: Apache V1.3-12 - DOA Re: Apache V1.3-12 - DOA Re: Apache V1.3-12 - DOA Re: Apache V1.3-12 - DOA Re: Apache V1.3-12 - DOA Re: Apache V1.3-12 - DOA Axtent product Audit Re: Clustering & multiple sites 9 Re: DEC 3000 model 300, help with firmware/serial console . FS: Cheap 164LX with 533Mhz 21164 CPU anybody?$ Re: Portable GUIs (VMS+Windows-NT) ? Problems with yahMAIL  Re: Problems with yahMAIL  Re: Q: Why not (2^n)-bit? " Re: set host node-name didn't work! Re: Sun Hardware problems persist ! Re: Sun Hardware problems persist  Re: Sun's Bitter Harvest Re: Sun's Bitter Harvest Re: Sun's Bitter Harvest Re: TCPIP$FTP Bugchecking! using / in the symbol  RE: using / in the symbol / Using RCP to transfer files between VMS and AIX  Re: VMS not starting RE: VMS not starting  F ----------------------------------------------------------------------  % Date: Thu, 07 Sep 2000 11:41:12 +0930 / From: Mark Daniel <Mark.Daniel@wasd.vsm.com.au> 1 Subject: %SYSTEM-F-EXBUFOBJLM explanation anyone? / Message-ID: <39B6F940.7A53B48F@wasd.vsm.com.au>   H This message was reported by a user when attempting to create a DECterm:  D   %SYSTEM-F-EXBUFOBJLM, exceeded systemwide buffer object page limit (MAXBOBMEM)   E It's an AlphaServer DS20 500, VMS V7.1-2, with the relevant part of $  SHOW MEM being  B   Buffer Object Usage (pages):                  In Use        PeakB     32-bit System Space Windows (S0/S1)            100         100B     64-bit System Space Windows (S2)                 0           0B     Physical pages locked by buffer objects        100         100  F The error message was particularly helpful here!!  In SYSGEN there areF three seemingly related parameters, all of which are indicated dynamic  C   Parameter Name    Current    Default     Min.      Max.     Unit   Dynamic C   --------------    -------    -------    -------   -------   ----   ------- H   MAXBOBMEM            1600       1600         0         -1 Pagelets   DH    internal value       100        100         0         -1 Pages      DH   MAXBOBS0S1           1600       1600         0         -1 Pagelets   DH    internal value       100        100         0         -1 Pages      DH   MAXBOBS2             1600       1600         0         -1 Pagelets   DH    internal value       100        100         0         -1 Pages      D  G I pushed MAXBOBMEM up to 3200 for ACTIVE and that fixed it.  Guess I'll + have to stick something into MODPARAMS.DAT.   D Could someone explain what happened here (i.e. what's this parameterE controlling)?  Any guidelines for calculating potential requirements?    TIA.     --  B "This electronic message and any attachments could not possibly be@ confidential otherwise it would not be sent unencrypted, via theA Internet, through countless mailing agents, gateways, and using a A plethora of other completely insecure and extremely public media. B Even if you are not the intended recipient of this message you areC free to use and abuse any and all of the contents as everyone knows D full-well that that with zero security available the only conclusionD can be zero accountability.  No virus scanning software is used whenC composing or mailing this message, end-use automatically nullifying C liability for infestation or subversion caused by opinions or ideas  it may contain."   ------------------------------  $ Date: Wed, 6 Sep 2000 14:30:14 -04003 From: "Gaitan D'Antoni" <gaitan.dantoni@compaq.com> ' Subject: Re: apache beginner's question 6 Message-ID: <8p62ih$bm9$1@mailint03.im.hou.compaq.com>  J APACHE$CONFIG.COM changes the protection of the directory and files but itI does not modify HTTPD.CONF to change the definition of the Document Root. F You need to edit APACHE$ROOT:[CONF]HTTPD.CONF, locate the DocumentRoot3 directive, and change its value to "/dqa0/wws$root"   G You also need to change the value of the <Directory directive (about 25 7 lines down from DocumentRoot) to reflect the new value.    Gaitan  & Jean-Franois Marchal wrote in message) <8oo7an$79o$1@s1.read.news.oleane.net>...  >Bonjour  tous  > " >I've just installed apache 1.3-12* >on my DS10 under vms 7.2-1 / tcpip v5.0-A > 9 >http://my_node told me the installation was successfull.  > 9 >So I shut down apache and re-ran apache$config to set-up ; >my site's document root as DQA0:[WWW$ROOT]. This procedure 4 >changed the protections on the directory and files. > = >After restarting apache, the document root seems still to be  >apache$root:[htdocs]. > : >When i re-run apache$config, it prompts me for my default= >document root, applies protections, but after restarting the - >server, it still uses the default home page.  > " >I didnt see anything in the logs. >  >Any idea ?  >  >Jean-Franois Marchal >X9000 - LYON (FR) >  >    ------------------------------  $ Date: Wed, 6 Sep 2000 20:46:28 +0200> From: "Jean-Franois Marchal" <jean-francois.marchal@x9000.fr>' Subject: Re: apache beginner's question 2 Message-ID: <8p63e0$lda$1@s1.read.news.oleane.net>   Thanks a lot ...
 Jean-Franois   > "Gaitan D'Antoni" <gaitan.dantoni@compaq.com> wrote in message0 news:8p62ih$bm9$1@mailint03.im.hou.compaq.com...L > APACHE$CONFIG.COM changes the protection of the directory and files but itK > does not modify HTTPD.CONF to change the definition of the Document Root. H > You need to edit APACHE$ROOT:[CONF]HTTPD.CONF, locate the DocumentRoot5 > directive, and change its value to "/dqa0/wws$root"  > I > You also need to change the value of the <Directory directive (about 25 9 > lines down from DocumentRoot) to reflect the new value.  >  > Gaitan > ( > Jean-Franois Marchal wrote in message+ > <8oo7an$79o$1@s1.read.news.oleane.net>...  > >Bonjour  tous  > > $ > >I've just installed apache 1.3-12, > >on my DS10 under vms 7.2-1 / tcpip v5.0-A > > ; > >http://my_node told me the installation was successfull.  > > ; > >So I shut down apache and re-ran apache$config to set-up = > >my site's document root as DQA0:[WWW$ROOT]. This procedure 6 > >changed the protections on the directory and files. > > ? > >After restarting apache, the document root seems still to be  > >apache$root:[htdocs]. > > < > >When i re-run apache$config, it prompts me for my default? > >document root, applies protections, but after restarting the / > >server, it still uses the default home page.  > > $ > >I didnt see anything in the logs. > > 
 > >Any idea ?  > >  > >Jean-Franois Marchal > >X9000 - LYON (FR) > >  > >  >  >    ------------------------------  % Date: Wed, 06 Sep 2000 18:05:09 +0000 - From: SysAdmin <djesys.nospam@fsi.net.mapson>  Subject: Apache V1.3-12 - DOA . Message-ID: <39B68755.B9ACA501@fsi.net.mapson>  
 Hi, Folks,  B I just installed Apache V1.3-12 on an AlphaStation 200 4/233 underG OpenVMS V7.2-1 with TCPware V5.4 (no ECOs). TCPware is fully configured  and running.  A When trying to start Apache (SYS$STARTUP:APACHE$STARTUP.COM), the ' process exits after leaving a log file.   C To try and track this down, I added some code to APACHE$SERVER.COM:    $	echo " Invoking HTTPD..."  $	httpd  $	st = $status $	echo " HTTPD exited" $	show symbol st
 $	status = st   G Here's how the relevant portion of the resulting APACHE$SERVER.LOG file  looked:     Invoking HTTPD...
  HTTPD exited    ST = "%X00000001" 8   APACHE$WWW   job terminated at  6-SEP-2000 11:40:47.38 [snip]  F There is no process still running, and attempts to connect to the node via HTTP are rejected.   Background:   G I had previously installed APACHE V1.3-9AE. It didn't run, either. When G APACHE_DAEMON.COM was invoked with P1 = "STARTUP" and P2 = "SYSTEM", it D would simply exit without ever executing the RUN/DETACHED command. I7 turned on APACHE_DAEMON_VERIFY to get that information.   H When configuring V1.3-9AE, "@APACHE_DAEMON CONFIGURE" apparently thoughtE that Apache could be set up as a TCP/IP service, since it offered the F question with a default answer of "Y". I took the default, and it blew( up upon failure to find the UCX command.  ? APACHE V1.3-9AE was PRODUCT REMOVEd before I installed V1.3-12.   F This system is clean enough that I could just wipe the system disk andC start over. I suppose it may come to that; but, I had expected more $ quality than that, even from a beta.  C Anyone have any ideas as to how I might get this to at least remain  running?   David J. Dachtera    ------------------------------  $ Date: Wed, 6 Sep 2000 14:37:53 -04003 From: "Gaitan D'Antoni" <gaitan.dantoni@compaq.com> ! Subject: Re: Apache V1.3-12 - DOA 6 Message-ID: <8p630r$bn6$1@mailint03.im.hou.compaq.com>  B Take a look at APACHE$ROOT:[LOGS]ERROR_LOG. to see if there is any, information about why the server terminated.  ? SysAdmin wrote in message <39B68755.B9ACA501@fsi.net.mapson>...  >Hi, Folks,  > C >I just installed Apache V1.3-12 on an AlphaStation 200 4/233 under H >OpenVMS V7.2-1 with TCPware V5.4 (no ECOs). TCPware is fully configured
 >and running.  > B >When trying to start Apache (SYS$STARTUP:APACHE$STARTUP.COM), the( >process exits after leaving a log file. > H >Here's how the relevant portion of the resulting APACHE$SERVER.LOG file >looked: >  > Invoking HTTPD...  > HTTPD exited >  ST = "%X00000001"9 >  APACHE$WWW   job terminated at  6-SEP-2000 11:40:47.38  >[snip]  > G >There is no process still running, and attempts to connect to the node  >via HTTP are rejected.    ------------------------------  % Date: Wed, 06 Sep 2000 18:46:22 +0000 - From: SysAdmin <djesys.nospam@fsi.net.mapson> ! Subject: Re: Apache V1.3-12 - DOA . Message-ID: <39B690FE.31D2AA7F@fsi.net.mapson>   Gaitan D'Antoni wrote: > D > Take a look at APACHE$ROOT:[LOGS]ERROR_LOG. to see if there is any. > information about why the server terminated.   There are complaints about:   . [warn] (1)not owner: setsockopt: (TCP_NODELAY)A [crit] (13)permission denied: mke_sock: could not bind to port 80   = What does all this mean, and how do I go about correcting it?   B Is this something that can be corrected in the distribution so the4 install/configure process will eliminate the source?   David J. Dachtera    ------------------------------  % Date: Wed, 06 Sep 2000 19:00:31 +0000 - From: SysAdmin <djesys.nospam@fsi.net.mapson> ! Subject: Re: Apache V1.3-12 - DOA . Message-ID: <39B6944F.6362D4E8@fsi.net.mapson>   SysAdmin wrote:  >  > Gaitan D'Antoni wrote: > > F > > Take a look at APACHE$ROOT:[LOGS]ERROR_LOG. to see if there is any0 > > information about why the server terminated. >  > There are complaints about:  > 0 > [warn] (1)not owner: setsockopt: (TCP_NODELAY)C > [crit] (13)permission denied: mke_sock: could not bind to port 80   F That's [crit] (13)permission denied: make_sock: could not bind to port 80, 
 of course.   ? > What does all this mean, and how do I go about correcting it?  > D > Is this something that can be corrected in the distribution so the6 > install/configure process will eliminate the source?   David J. Dachtera    ------------------------------  % Date: Wed, 06 Sep 2000 15:46:36 -0400 # From: John Vottero <John@MVPSI.com> ! Subject: RE: Apache V1.3-12 - DOA D Message-ID: <C15945A9D9EFCF11BA8B08002BBF1CCC0CD7E7@berry.mvpsi.com>  L Do you have something else listening on port 80?  Maybe another HTTP server?   > -----Original Message-----6 > From: SysAdmin [mailto:djesys.nospam@fsi.net.mapson]- > Sent: Wednesday, September 06, 2000 3:01 PM  > To: Info-VAX@Mvb.Saic.Com # > Subject: Re: Apache V1.3-12 - DOA  >  >  > SysAdmin wrote:  > >  > > Gaitan D'Antoni wrote: > > > H > > > Take a look at APACHE$ROOT:[LOGS]ERROR_LOG. to see if there is any2 > > > information about why the server terminated. > >  > > There are complaints about:  > > 2 > > [warn] (1)not owner: setsockopt: (TCP_NODELAY)E > > [crit] (13)permission denied: mke_sock: could not bind to port 80  > H > That's [crit] (13)permission denied: make_sock: could not bind to port > 80,  > of course. >   A > > What does all this mean, and how do I go about correcting it?  > > F > > Is this something that can be corrected in the distribution so the8 > > install/configure process will eliminate the source? >  > David J. Dachtera  >    ------------------------------  % Date: Wed, 06 Sep 2000 15:56:33 -0400 " From: Dan Sugalski <dan@sidhe.org>! Subject: Re: Apache V1.3-12 - DOA : Message-ID: <4.3.2.7.0.20000906155438.00c22c80@24.8.96.48>  ) At 07:00 PM 9/6/00 +0000, SysAdmin wrote:  >SysAdmin wrote: > >  > > Gaitan D'Antoni wrote: > > > H > > > Take a look at APACHE$ROOT:[LOGS]ERROR_LOG. to see if there is any2 > > > information about why the server terminated. > >  > > There are complaints about:  > > 2 > > [warn] (1)not owner: setsockopt: (TCP_NODELAY)E > > [crit] (13)permission denied: mke_sock: could not bind to port 80  > G >That's [crit] (13)permission denied: make_sock: could not bind to port  >80, >of course.   J That probably means that the account you're using to start Apache doesn't ? have the privs it needs to bind to one of the privileged ports.   E FWIW, Apache has only been tested and certified on UCX 5.0A. That it  L doesn't run under vanilla TCPWare isn't that surprising. It won't run under E Multinet without a patchkit, so you may need an ECO or three for the  " version of TCPWare you're running.   					Dan  I --------------------------------------"it's like this"------------------- 2 Dan Sugalski                          even samurai? dan@sidhe.org                         have teddy bears and even ;                                       teddy bears get drunk    ------------------------------  % Date: Wed, 06 Sep 2000 19:53:27 +0000 - From: SysAdmin <djesys.nospam@fsi.net.mapson> ! Subject: Re: Apache V1.3-12 - DOA . Message-ID: <39B6A0B7.9573CBCC@fsi.net.mapson>   John Vottero wrote:  > N > Do you have something else listening on port 80?  Maybe another HTTP server?  G If it's there, I didn't install it or start it. So, I wouldn't know how  to find it.   H Remember: I said, "This is a clean enough system I could wipe the systemE disk and start over..." The system configuration is at the top of the  original post.   David J. Dachtera    ------------------------------  % Date: Wed, 06 Sep 2000 20:41:32 +0000 - From: SysAdmin <djesys.nospam@fsi.net.mapson> ! Subject: Re: Apache V1.3-12 - DOA . Message-ID: <39B6ABFC.D5AE773D@fsi.net.mapson>   Dan Sugalski wrote:  > + > At 07:00 PM 9/6/00 +0000, SysAdmin wrote:  > >SysAdmin wrote: > > >  > > > Gaitan D'Antoni wrote: > > > > J > > > > Take a look at APACHE$ROOT:[LOGS]ERROR_LOG. to see if there is any4 > > > > information about why the server terminated. > > > ! > > > There are complaints about:  > > > 4 > > > [warn] (1)not owner: setsockopt: (TCP_NODELAY)G > > > [crit] (13)permission denied: mke_sock: could not bind to port 80  > > I > >That's [crit] (13)permission denied: make_sock: could not bind to port  > >80,
 > >of course.  > K > That probably means that the account you're using to start Apache doesn't A > have the privs it needs to bind to one of the privileged ports.   C Thanx, Dan. The doc. (what there is available) said that the server E account shouldn't need any unusual privileges. Apparently, that's not E the case. Even APACHE$ADDUSER.COM only sets TMPMBX and NETMBX on that 	 account.    & I guess we need our first ECO because:   UAF> MOD APACHE$WWW/DEFP=ALL  # ...seems to have gotten it running.    Thanx again.   David J. Dachtera    ------------------------------  % Date: Wed, 06 Sep 2000 15:54:18 -0500 - From: SysAdmin <djesys.nospam@fsi.net.mapson> ! Subject: Re: Apache V1.3-12 - DOA . Message-ID: <39B6AEFA.79860A1C@fsi.net.mapson>   Gaitan D'Antoni wrote: > D > Take a look at APACHE$ROOT:[LOGS]ERROR_LOG. to see if there is any. > information about why the server terminated.   There are complaints about:   . [warn] (1)not owner: setsockopt: (TCP_NODELAY)A [crit] (13)permission denied: mke_sock: could not bind to port 80   H As pointed out at another location in this thread, this was corrected by. giving the APACHE$WWW account full privileges.  6 Needless to say, this could represent a security risk.  D Any idea why it requires privilege, and what privileges (minimum) it	 requires?-   David J. Dachtera-   ------------------------------   Date: 6 Sep 2000 17:12:17 -0400c/ From: jordan@lisa.gemair.com (Jordan Henderson)p! Subject: Re: Apache V1.3-12 - DOA-* Message-ID: <8p6bvh$10s$1@lisa.gemair.com>  . In article <39B6AEFA.79860A1C@fsi.net.mapson>,/ SysAdmin  <djesys.nospam@fsi.net.mapson> wrote:s >Gaitan D'Antoni wrote:  >> EE >> Take a look at APACHE$ROOT:[LOGS]ERROR_LOG. to see if there is anyi/ >> information about why the server terminated.V >W >There are complaints about: >I/ >[warn] (1)not owner: setsockopt: (TCP_NODELAY)^B >[crit] (13)permission denied: mke_sock: could not bind to port 80 > I >As pointed out at another location in this thread, this was corrected by / >giving the APACHE$WWW account full privileges.e >C7 >Needless to say, this could represent a security risk.  >tE >Any idea why it requires privilege, and what privileges (minimum) ito
 >requires? >   ? Set the privs back down and use Security Auditing to determine - what privs it's failing on.e  = You definitely need privs to bind to a port < 1024. The exactl* privs required escapes me at the moment...  ? I've never installed Apache, but, perhaps should some image be . install'd with privs?    >David J. Dachtera   -Jordan Hendersonc jordan@greenapple.comS   ------------------------------   Date: 6 Sep 2000 18:39:57 -0500X* From: kuhrt@eisner.decus.org (Marty Kuhrt)! Subject: Re: Apache V1.3-12 - DOA + Message-ID: <dgRkA2RMFZv5@eisner.decus.org>p  ^ In article <39B6AEFA.79860A1C@fsi.net.mapson>, SysAdmin <djesys.nospam@fsi.net.mapson> writes: > Gaitan D'Antoni wrote: >>  E >> Take a look at APACHE$ROOT:[LOGS]ERROR_LOG. to see if there is anyc/ >> information about why the server terminated.h >  > There are complaints about:l > 0 > [warn] (1)not owner: setsockopt: (TCP_NODELAY)C > [crit] (13)permission denied: mke_sock: could not bind to port 80e > J > As pointed out at another location in this thread, this was corrected by0 > giving the APACHE$WWW account full privileges. > 8 > Needless to say, this could represent a security risk. > F > Any idea why it requires privilege, and what privileges (minimum) it > requires?e >  > David J. Dachtera   @ I had the same problem with Multinet.  It needed a patch so that; the ownership of the port could be changed without evelatedD privs.    ) Have you checked with the TCPware people?    ------------------------------  % Date: Wed, 06 Sep 2000 22:33:10 -0400 " From: Dan Sugalski <dan@sidhe.org>! Subject: Re: Apache V1.3-12 - DOAi: Message-ID: <4.3.2.7.0.20000906223040.00d574a0@24.8.96.48>  ) At 08:41 PM 9/6/00 +0000, SysAdmin wrote:  >Dan Sugalski wrote: > >m- > > At 07:00 PM 9/6/00 +0000, SysAdmin wrote:t > > >SysAdmin wrote: > > > >  > > > > Gaitan D'Antoni wrote:	 > > > > >dL > > > > > Take a look at APACHE$ROOT:[LOGS]ERROR_LOG. to see if there is any6 > > > > > information about why the server terminated. > > > >g# > > > > There are complaints about:a > > > > 6 > > > > [warn] (1)not owner: setsockopt: (TCP_NODELAY)I > > > > [crit] (13)permission denied: mke_sock: could not bind to port 80n > > > K > > >That's [crit] (13)permission denied: make_sock: could not bind to port  > > >80, > > >of course.  > >uM > > That probably means that the account you're using to start Apache doesn'tpC > > have the privs it needs to bind to one of the privileged ports.b >tD >Thanx, Dan. The doc. (what there is available) said that the serverF >account shouldn't need any unusual privileges. Apparently, that's notF >the case. Even APACHE$ADDUSER.COM only sets TMPMBX and NETMBX on that	 >account.h  L The Apache account shouldn't need any extra privs--TMPMBX and NETMBX should K be enough. The account doing the initial install needs more, IIRC, and the  = account starting Apache up needs more, but I think that's it.m  K Last I knew when Apache was started an image was installed with sufficient oJ privs, but they might not be the right ones for TCPWare or there might be I an issue with it's UCX emulation. (Multinet had that problem, and Apache o really abuses UCX)  I The doc issue is known and being worked on--better docs should either be a available or on their way soon..   					Dan  I --------------------------------------"it's like this"------------------- 2 Dan Sugalski                          even samurai? dan@sidhe.org                         have teddy bears and even ;                                       teddy bears get drunkW   ------------------------------  # Date: Wed, 06 Sep 2000 22:02:02 GMTi From: trdorr@my-deja.com Subject: Axtent product Auditm) Message-ID: <8p6ese$k26$1@nnrp1.deja.com>   5 I thought there was a product by AXTENT called AUDIT.t
 Is this true?t6 AUDIT is suppose to track every keystroke a user does. Anyone using AUDIT?d Thanks,m Tome    & Sent via Deja.com http://www.deja.com/ Before you buy.    ------------------------------  $ Date: Wed, 6 Sep 2000 20:41:15 +0200" From: "Hans Vlems" <hvlems@iae.nl>( Subject: Re: Clustering & multiple sites( Message-ID: <8p62o0$436$1@news.IAEhv.nl>  G The Gigaswitches may be monitored by ClearVision or CNMS (a Compaq tool.) which is available to customers I think).FH The Gigaswitches's MIB's are very well documented in the owner's manual.2 UCX/TCPIP so you always write something yourself..  J About 100 Mb/s being enough, your mileage may vary. It just depends on theA number of nodes, clusters and shadowsets and sizes of the latter.nK But remember that Digital FDDI gear has full duplex switched on by default;tC provided that you've got the gigaswitches point to point connected.oI ClearVision and the appropriate MIB will tell you what mode the ports arei running in. B And yes, huntgroups are the way to improve bandwidth, but you need ClearVisiona9 for that (or be extremely clever with the MIB interface).>  J I've had something against FDDI for years, possibly because it's a ring as in IBM tokenring.-H But it proved to be very reliable and much easier to load than ethernet. Collision detectK protocols have their advantages but if it comes to shifting large chunks ofc
 data, FDDI isQI still king. Note that several VMS cluster SYSGEN parameters need a lot of 
 changes to improve the efficiency.   K Yes, most vendors have decided that FDDI is dead. Considering that a lot of 	 telephonerG carriers rely on the technology I think it'll be with us for quite some  time.i  
 Hans Vlems  7 tias77@bellatlantic.net heeft geschreven in bericht ... + >Well, I'm not going to throw them out yet.lJ >But I hope I don't have to install a new environment with those oldies...? >Right now I don't like em coz I don't know how to monitor theme
 >efficiently.0D >I'm not sure of how they feel right now. I could take a look at theK >console or implement something in my OpenView but... If it i coould run it E >over a bridged VLAN over Cisco Catalysts I would be a lot happier as4
 >operator.2 >Is it efficient enough with 100Mbit in that case?= >There are so many questions and so few test environments. :)h >S >/Tias >AE >Hmm, if you have a gigaswitch/FDDI (or ATM) don't throw it away yet.o< >It may be a big box but it does its job, and very well too.E >Up to now you've managed to keep the distance(s) between the centres"F >a secret. But if they are less than 20 kms (say 12 miles) apart, stay >witht6 >FDDI and go for hipower optics and single mode fiber.C >The Gigaswitch FDDI allows you to trunc connections (hunt groups).WD >It is very difficult to find anything that comes close (in terms of >bandwidth) G >to a 4*2 hunt group running in full duplex mode: potentially 1.6 Gb/s.a   ------------------------------  $ Date: Wed, 6 Sep 2000 23:43:05 -0500 From: "David" <nospam@spam.com>aB Subject: Re: DEC 3000 model 300, help with firmware/serial console2 Message-ID: <8p765l$jd2$1@canopus.cc.umanitoba.ca>  I You may want to simply get an external SCSI CDROM for your DEC.  I was iniJ the exact same situation as you and finally broke down and spent $5 to buy$ an external 2x SCSI2 CDROM off Ebay.  > "Tobin Fricke" <tobin@bombay.CS.Berkeley.EDU> wrote in messageH news:Pine.GSO.4.10.10009032135240.14448-100000@bombay.CS.Berkeley.EDU... >.J > My roommate and I have come across a DECstation 3000 model 300, which weL > am trying to network boot.  We do not have a keyboard or display, so we'reJ > using the serial console only, and we have no removable media (CD-ROM orJ > floppy) so we need to boot over the ethernet. We've updated the firmwareK > successfully using the MOP protocol (something like bootp but proprietary F > to DEC) and mopd for linux. Now, however, with the new firmware, theI > serial console has stopped working fully; although we receive data from@K > the machine, we can't seem to send anything, and thus we can't accomplishoK > anything. However, if we boot into the existing operating system (OSF/1),nK > the serial connection works in both directions.  Here is what we get overI > the serial console:V >- > DEC 3000 - M300o > Digital Equipment Corporation-K >      VPP PAL V5.56-80800101/OSF PAL V1.45-80800201 - Built on 28-JAN-1997 
 > 10:54:25.34t# > TCINFO      DEVNAM        DEVSTATA$ > ------      --------      --------J >                  CPU      OK KN16-AA -V7.0-S889-I21F-sV2.0-DECchip 21064 P3.0# >                  OSC      150 MHzi >                 ASIC      OK >                  MEM      OK >                FEROM      OK > 64 >                  CXT      OK > 5p >                  NVR      OK  >                  SCC      ? 60 >                   NI      OK >                 ISDN      OK > 4  >                 SCSI      OKB > 0) Dansk                             8) Franais (Suisse Romande)2 > 1) Deutsch                           9) Italiano5 > 2) Deutsch (Schweiz)                 10) NederlandsA0 > 3) English                           11) Norsk3 > 4) English (British/Irish)           12) Portugusr/ > 5) Espaol                           13) Suomis1 > 6) Franais                          14) Svenskai0 > 7) Franais (Canadien)               15) Vlaams >  > 3 >>>m >, >dL > If anyone could help us out, perhaps by pointing us to where we may obtain@ > manuals or a description of the SCC error, it would be greatly > appreciated. >a	 > Thanks,t > Tobin <tobin@sji.org>- >-   ------------------------------  $ Date: Wed, 6 Sep 2000 23:23:39 +0400 From: "pbc" <pbc@aha.ru>7 Subject: FS: Cheap 164LX with 533Mhz 21164 CPU anybody?.' Message-ID: <8p65jv$15qp$1@news.aha.ru>e  = Will sell AlphaPC164LX mobo with or without 533MHz 21164 CPU.$ Brand new, DEC made.  , Any interest? Ask me at: pbc@informchaos.com   ------------------------------  % Date: Wed, 06 Sep 2000 18:21:40 +0000(- From: SysAdmin <djesys.nospam@fsi.net.mapson>]- Subject: Re: Portable GUIs (VMS+Windows-NT) ?d. Message-ID: <39B68B34.F69467F8@fsi.net.mapson>   Martin Vorlaender wrote: > 8 > David J. Dachtera (djesys.nospam@earthlink.net) wrote:L > : Um, Reflection is the *ONLY* complete VT emulation on the market, AFAIK. > G > I beg to differ on that "*ONLY*". KEA! (nee KEAterm) also does a goodt > job at VT emulation.  & ...but not as good as Reflection, IMO.   C > : Try to find another that does smooth-scroll when you absolutelyI > : postively *MUST* have it.3 > 3 > I know KEA! has that one, but never looked at it.0  B I haven't look at KEA! since about 1997. Didn't have it back then.   > I wonder under whichB > circumstances one would need to (absolutely positively) have it.  ? Try this: displaying a long list of items in a scrolling region:H mid-screen: the scroll-bar at the side of the terminal window is uselessD under such conditions. I know of at least one commercial applicationD which has this limitation. However, EDT does this, also: the currentH "window" into a buffer is defined in the terminal as a scrolling region.B AFAIK, only PowerTerm handles this, and then only if the scrolling+ region includes the topline of the display.d   David J. Dachtera    ------------------------------  + Date: Wed, 06 Sep 2000 17:35:28 -0300 (EST)  From: becherini@vortex.ufrgs.br. Subject: Problems with yahMAIL, Message-ID: <00090617352831@vortex.ufrgs.br>  O _______________________________________________________________________________t     	Hi !r   	The environment is:  9   DIGITAL TCP/IP Services for OpenVMS Alpha Version V5.0A-1   on a AlphaServer 800 5/500 running OpenVMS V7.20     Apache/1.3.9 Server   #   yahMAIL version 1.3, 4th May 20003  ! 	yahMAIL has been installed with:0   		@BUILD_YAHMAIL MIME LINK   		@INSTALL INSTALL APACHE0     	Here is the configuration file:  F ----------------------------------------------------------------------+ [#] example WASD YAHMAIL configuration file    [body]A BGCOLOR="#ffffff" TEXT="#000000" LINK="#0000ff" VLINK="#00000066"s   [createfooter]S <A TARGET="yahMAILhelp" HREF="/yahmail/doc/guide_create.html">Create-Send Guide</A>k   [folderheader] <FONT COLOR="#ff0000">8 Unauthorized access via <B>yahMAIL</B> is prohibited!<P> </FONT>r   [folderfooter]U <A TARGET="yahMAILhelp" HREF="/yahmail/doc/guide_folder.html">Folder Browse Guide</A>eH <BR><A TARGET="yahMAILhelp" HREF="/yahmail/doc/">yahMAIL Usage Guide</A>   [listfooter]S <A TARGET="yahMAILhelp" HREF="/yahmail/doc/guide_lists.html">Address List Guide</A>    [readfooter]R <A TARGET="yahMAILhelp" HREF="/yahmail/doc/guide_read.html">Message Read Guide</A>  	 [private]s becherini\VMS\postmaster *\VMS\*	 *\*\*    [public]  F ----------------------------------------------------------------------  9 	Well, yahMAIL works fine, in our tests, in public access ! 	(not in configuration file now).s   	But private access not.   	With logical YAHMAIL$CHECK = 1e> 	is possible to check what is wrong in the source of the page.   	If I try this:   , 		http://somenode.ufrgs.br/cgi-bin/yahmail/~   	it returns this:   F ----------------------------------------------------------------------D <FONT SIZE=+1><B><U>yahMAIL is currently unavailable!</U></B></FONT>; <P>Apologies for any inconvenience. Please try again later.  <!--
 [public] ~ reject: path end of configuration!  -->eF ----------------------------------------------------------------------  3 	But I am trying private access, not public access.e   	Please, what is wrong ?   	Best regards,  N  _____________________________________________________________________________O |                                                                             | O | Fabio Becherini                   System & Network Manager, Webmaster UFRGS |tO | CPD-UFRGS                         Centro de Processamento de Dados da UFRGS |nO |                                   Universidade Federal do Rio Grande do Sul |oO |_____________________________________________________________________________|    ------------------------------  % Date: Thu, 07 Sep 2000 08:33:41 +0930t/ From: Mark Daniel <Mark.Daniel@wasd.vsm.com.au>o" Subject: Re: Problems with yahMAIL/ Message-ID: <39B6CD4D.738D9720@wasd.vsm.com.au>   	 Hi Fabio,s  F thanks for an excellent problem report ... all the info possible, plusF you've obviously tried to solve it yourself (evidence: YAHMAIL$CHECK).  E You must have authentication and authorization up and running on yourhH Apache.  This *must* trigger a browser authentication dialog on the pathH "/cgi-bin/yahmail/~".  If you are not getting that dialog you cannot useE authenticated yahMAIL, it checks for the REMOTE_USER CGI variable.  IsH cannot help you with setting up VMS Apache authorization, it's somethingE I haven't tackled yet.  Perhaps when you've succeeded let me know the 8 basics and I'll include it in the yahMAIL documentation.  H Also, I doubt Apache will supply an AUTH_GROUP (the middle 1\2\3 string,A which is a WASD-ism allowing greater granularity on authorizationoE processing), so you'll probably need to change the private section ofR the configuration file to:     [private]o   becherini\*\postmaster   *\*\*   E PLEASE NOTE:  Apache 1.3.9 will support yahMAIL's MIME processing forO? non-text inclusions.  If you upgrade to 1.3.12 IT WILL NOT.  My G investigations indicate that it is *impossible* to send a binary streamoE from a script to the 1.3.12 Apache server as it *insists* on adding akE <CR><LF> to each record (which needless-to-say breaks any non-textual1D response).  The VMS Apache team have been notified and are currently addressing the issue.s  E If you would like to *play* with authenticated yahMAIL before gettingd> Apache authentication going then you can fudge the REMOTE_USERD variable.  Remember, this can compromise your mail because with thisF active anyone accessing private yahMAIL will get your account's (whichD in an experimental setup probably won't be a big problem).  Edit theH APACHE_ROOT:[CGI-BIN]YAHMAIL.COM and add a third-to-last line so that it looks like the following:r     $ REMOTE_USER = "becherini"a6   $ yahmail = "$" + exeDir + fileName + "_" + archName$   $ yahmail "''P1'" "''P2'" "''P3'"   ; Obviously remove this before putting it into production :^)S   Hope this helps, Mark Daniel.o    becherini@vortex.ufrgs.br wrote: > Q > _______________________________________________________________________________p >  >         Hi ! >  >         The environment is:0 > ; >   DIGITAL TCP/IP Services for OpenVMS Alpha Version V5.0AN3 >   on a AlphaServer 800 5/500 running OpenVMS V7.2- >  >   Apache/1.3.9 Server  > % >   yahMAIL version 1.3, 4th May 20002 > * >         yahMAIL has been installed with: > * >                 @BUILD_YAHMAIL MIME LINK > ) >                 @INSTALL INSTALL APACHEK > ) >         Here is the configuration file:  > H > ----------------------------------------------------------------------- > [#] example WASD YAHMAIL configuration fileK >  > [body]C > BGCOLOR="#ffffff" TEXT="#000000" LINK="#0000ff" VLINK="#00000066"r >  > [createfooter]U > <A TARGET="yahMAILhelp" HREF="/yahmail/doc/guide_create.html">Create-Send Guide</A>  >  > [folderheader] > <FONT COLOR="#ff0000">: > Unauthorized access via <B>yahMAIL</B> is prohibited!<P>	 > </FONT>u >  > [folderfooter]W > <A TARGET="yahMAILhelp" HREF="/yahmail/doc/guide_folder.html">Folder Browse Guide</A>)J > <BR><A TARGET="yahMAILhelp" HREF="/yahmail/doc/">yahMAIL Usage Guide</A> >  > [listfooter]U > <A TARGET="yahMAILhelp" HREF="/yahmail/doc/guide_lists.html">Address List Guide</A>  >  > [readfooter]T > <A TARGET="yahMAILhelp" HREF="/yahmail/doc/guide_read.html">Message Read Guide</A> >  > [private]  > becherini\VMS\postmaster	 > *\VMS\*  > *\*\*c > 
 > [public] > H > ---------------------------------------------------------------------- > B >         Well, yahMAIL works fine, in our tests, in public access* >         (not in configuration file now). > ! >         But private access not.m > ( >         With logical YAHMAIL$CHECK = 1G >         is possible to check what is wrong in the source of the page.s >  >         If I try this: > < >                 http://somenode.ufrgs.br/cgi-bin/yahmail/~ >  >         it returns this: > H > ----------------------------------------------------------------------F > <FONT SIZE=+1><B><U>yahMAIL is currently unavailable!</U></B></FONT>= > <P>Apologies for any inconvenience. Please try again later.g > <!-- > [public] ~ > reject: path > end of configuration!n > --> H > ---------------------------------------------------------------------- > < >         But I am trying private access, not public access. > ! >         Please, what is wrong ?k >  >         Best regards,d > P >  _____________________________________________________________________________Q > |                                                                             |rQ > | Fabio Becherini                   System & Network Manager, Webmaster UFRGS |eQ > | CPD-UFRGS                         Centro de Processamento de Dados da UFRGS |aQ > |                                   Universidade Federal do Rio Grande do Sul |rQ > |_____________________________________________________________________________|h   --  B "This electronic message and any attachments could not possibly be@ confidential otherwise it would not be sent unencrypted, via theA Internet, through countless mailing agents, gateways, and using auA plethora of other completely insecure and extremely public media.3B Even if you are not the intended recipient of this message you areC free to use and abuse any and all of the contents as everyone knows:D full-well that that with zero security available the only conclusionD can be zero accountability.  No virus scanning software is used whenC composing or mailing this message, end-use automatically nullifyingeC liability for infestation or subversion caused by opinions or ideas  it may contain."   ------------------------------   Date: 6 Sep 2000 20:22:02 GMT-  From: inwap@best.com (Joe Smith)" Subject: Re: Q: Why not (2^n)-bit?, Message-ID: <8p691a$sh6$1@nntp1.ba.best.com>  0 In article <qh1yz2gy6x.fsf@ruckus.brouhaha.com>,5 Eric Smith  <eric-no-spam-for-me@brouhaha.com> wrote:. >jmfbahciv@aol.com writes:* >> The 1091 wouldn't even have happened if@ >> somebody sane (Alan Titcomb) hadn't funded the project.  ThatA >> was another TOPS10 project that was a midnight hack (I'm usinge> >> the word hack in the proper way...not the idiocy that seems >> to have evolved). >y8 >What were the technical issues to making the 1091 work? >pB >My understanding is that the 1091 hardware was basically the same' >as the 2060.  As compared to the 1090:" >h >l >		1090				1091t5 >		-------------------------	------------------------\; >memory		DMA20 memory interface to	"internal" memory (which-0 >		KI10 external memory bus	sometimes is mounted >						externally):  MA20/MB20 >						core or MF20/MG20 semi   # Internal MOS memory had spare bits.   D Memory can be visualized as 4M words, each with some number of bits.& 36 bits = raw data, no parity, no ECC.: 38 bits = 36 data bits + 2 parity bits (one per halfword).$ 44 bits = 36 data bits + 8 ECC bits.  H The MOS memory box had more than the bare minimum needed for data + ECC.L The additional columns of 4M bits were unused, unless the memory diagnosticsL detected a failure in a column of bits.  In that case, the memory controller5 would be reconfigured to use a different set of bits.-  I As I understood it, the hardest part of the project of getting MOS memorypH to work with TOPS-10 was getting it to understand memory failure errors.J The shipment of our 1091 to the Colorado School of Mines was held up until they could get TGHA working. 	-Joe  --8 See http://www.inwap.com/ for PDP-10 and "ReBoot" pages.   ------------------------------  $ Date: Wed, 6 Sep 2000 22:24:24 +0200" From: "Hans Vlems" <hvlems@iae.nl>+ Subject: Re: set host node-name didn't work ( Message-ID: <8p68sg$lg1$1@news.IAEhv.nl>  C Could be several things wrong here and actually you did not give us_) a lot of information in the first place.._ Assuming that the command was:   $ set host <node-name>  9 then you must be using DECnet. Three things may be wrong:s  2 1) the node you're on is not connected to the LAN. Try-
 $ show net, to figure out what nodes are still reachable  L 2) you used a name that translated to the wrong address. DECnet nodename (in	 phase iv)i are locally translated. Try: $ mc ncp sho node <node-name>t and see what happens.d    3) the remote node is shut down.  
 Hans Vlems  ) Markus Eymann heeft geschreven in berichti% <8p2lap$pqn$1@bw107zhb.bluewin.ch>...  >Hi, >r. >if I try a set host node-name it didn't work.; >I get the answer "remote host is currently not reachable".  >Can anybody help me?h, >please send your hint to eymannm@bluewin.ch >i >thank's >markuse >e >    ------------------------------  # Date: Wed, 06 Sep 2000 18:15:26 GMTt4 From: "Terry C. Shannon" <terryshannon@mediaone.net>* Subject: Re: Sun Hardware problems persist< Message-ID: <2Rvt5.61435$NH2.493272@typhoon.ne.mediaone.net>  / "Pteppic" <pchill@my-deja.com> wrote in messaged# news:8p5s11$s14$1@nnrp1.deja.com...h  ; > Hey, I think I've figured out what he's trying to say....t > E > If you stick to buying really big Sun systems then they run so mucheG > faster that it doesn't matter so much that they need replacement cpusM. > every few hours..  (they catch up so quick). > G > Although I'm still not convinced about the "faster" bit. Anybody seeniE > any Oracle Apps benchmarks for E10Ks? I'm assuming they exist sincenH > Andrew stated that the new GS series machines need a 2.5 X improvementB > to catch up with Suns or was that based on some other benchmark? > (PAM-CRASH perhaps?) >c  K Haven't seen any Oracle Apps numbers for StarFire, but the 156K tpmC number K Sun reported late last month is pretty damned good. And way faster than the83 GS320 number CPQ briefly posted on the TPC website.n  J Fast machines are nice. Machines that deliver sufficient uptime to exploit% their inherent speed are nicer still.    ------------------------------  % Date: Wed, 06 Sep 2000 17:58:19 -0700l! From: Shane.F.Smith@Healthnet.comn* Subject: Re: Sun Hardware problems persistC Message-ID: <OFE18918E4.5AA415D5-ON88256953.0005485C@HEALTHNET.COM>e  5 ...but the purpose is almost exactly opposite.... :-)t   Shaneg          H "Terry C. Shannon" <terryshannon@mediaone.net> on 09/06/2000 08:48:16 AM   To:   Info-VAX@Mvb.Saic.ComA cc:e  + Subject:  Re: Sun Hardware problems persists     <snip>  G > >         From what I can determine the Marvel latency is much betterdH > >         as CPU is directly attached to "slow" RAMBUS (RDRAM) memory. ButoH > >         because it is direct and has an on-chip memory controller *I think*C > >         that local memory access may be on the order of 70 ns +i overheadD > >         or somewhere in the neighborhood of 100 ns (maybe less). "Remote"K > >         memory is accessed via on-chip network controller and latenciesr ares; > >         spelled out in the 21364 powerpoint found here:g > > < > > http://www.alphapowered.com/presentations/alpha21364.ppt > >sD > >         Noting slide 14.  As you can see, the network switch canE > >         bypass L2 so taking information from other slides you can.I > >         see a single hop remote memory access could be something like H > >         70 ns + 15 ns (CPU to CPU latency) plus additional overhead.# > >         Less than 150 ns or so.o > >iJ > >         Perhaps you could draw a better conclusion from the powerpointJ > >         slide.  Seems somewhat murky to me regarding remote latencies. > >l >iH > As you should know from bitter experience by now what ever conclusionsJ > you draw from the powerpoint slide it is only a powerpoint slide and not > the actual working system.  G How true. In order to see the actual Marvel system in the MR01 lab, you  needJ to sign an NDA. Criteria for this NDA are no doubt more stringent than the( criteria for a Sun UE10K memory fix NDA.   ------------------------------  % Date: Wed, 06 Sep 2000 18:58:17 +0100 B From: Andrew Harrison SUNUK Consultancy <andrew.nospam@uk.sun.com>! Subject: Re: Sun's Bitter Harvest.* Message-ID: <39B685B9.690B681D@uk.sun.com>   Rob Young wrote:  q > In article <39B5FB87.57F1B68F@uk.sun.com>, Andrew Harrison SUNUK Consultancy <andrew.nospam@uk.sun.com> writes:  > > Rob Young wrote: >  > > J > > As you should know from bitter experience by now what ever conclusionsL > > you draw from the powerpoint slide it is only a powerpoint slide and not > > the actual working system. > >  > H >         Bitter?  Me?  Nah... but now that you mention "bitter" , how'sL >         that Bitter Harvest going over there at ComputerWorld, week number >         two? >sP > http://www.computerworld.com/cwi/story/0,1199,NAV47-68-86-101_STO49479,00.html > R > "Pretty sad, huh? And the situation's even sorrier for customers who switched toJ > Sun over the past year and a half, while the gag strategy kept them from< > finding out about the problem. They're stuck with lemons." >u  C Rob you have fallen into the old trap of beleiving what you want tocK beleive. It made you look lets be kind and say a little ridiculous over the G eBay outages and it looks like the whole thing is happening over again.o  E The e-Cache part that has caused Sun customers problems is a standardaL commodity component provided by one of the worlds largest suppliers of cacheM memory. The failure rate for this part is higher than expected and one reasonvG is static and improving the environment in the datacenter to reduce thenE incidence of static discharge and reducing the temperature which alsooP can reduce static has the effect of reducing the failure rate of this component.  K The simple fact is that Sun has far far more cache installed worldwide than-H any other vendor and the fact is that Sun's in particular E10K's are theE biggest systems in most peoples datacenters. People on this newsgroup K have been saying things like well you don't have to do this for a mainframe I they probably don't realise that the E10K's are at least 2-3x bigger than0 any current G-Series or clone.  C They also probably don't realise that some of the environments thatpA E10K's are running in fall well outside the guidelines in the REDT; books. In otherwords IBM would not be entirely happy if the 9 customers were running mainframes in the same environmentt= that they are running Sun's in, but the Sun's are much bigger-$ systems than any existing mainframe.  = The reason why Sun cannot say exactly what causes the e-cachej@ to fail would be obvious to any one who has a clue which is thatD it is impossible with significant category of failures in the caches< to examine why they have failed but we know that static is a very significant factor.  A And before you say well Sun should advise people better on how towH warehouse the systems, the answer is we do, we have a very comprehensiveB data center assessment service which at least in the UK is free to? customers, don't know if its free worldwide but it probably is.I  4 We also publish comprehensive and free documentation: describing the physical requirements for housing equipment  \ http://docs.sun.com:80/ab2/coll.506.1/DATACENTERSITE/@Ab2TocView?Ab2Lang=C&Ab2Enc=iso-8859-1  3 Some customers however cannot impliment the changeso+ recommended by the assessments or reach thel, ranges recommended in the datacenter guides.  < The customer I work for has completely run out of datacenter? space with 2 of their main datacenters running at the limits ofhB their capacity for power, cooling, floor loading etc and have been@ forced to use a non production data-suite for production systems? because of lack of space. Now in this customers datacenters thet= biggest systems they have are their Sun's the rest are mostly," small IBM AIX boxes and Proliants.  B They know there is an issue but there is nothing they can do aboutC it. Ironically putting WildFires in would only make their situationV= much worse because the WildFire delivers much less throughput < per square meter than an E10K mainly because it is housed in? a larger cabinet. 170 * 200 * 100 vs 178 * 127 * 99 and becauseg? it is slower. The Compaq is also heavier and has requires threef  phase power again a major issue.  8 So Rob who does make Compaq's cache ???? does it survive multi-bit failures ???     Regardst Andrew Harrisond Enterprise IT Architect    ------------------------------   Date: 6 Sep 2000 16:34:53 -0500I* From: young_r@eisner.decus.org (Rob Young)! Subject: Re: Sun's Bitter Harvesta+ Message-ID: <Wy9+2cwjCh38@eisner.decus.org>   o In article <39B685B9.690B681D@uk.sun.com>, Andrew Harrison SUNUK Consultancy <andrew.nospam@uk.sun.com> writes:b > Rob Young wrote: > r >> In article <39B5FB87.57F1B68F@uk.sun.com>, Andrew Harrison SUNUK Consultancy <andrew.nospam@uk.sun.com> writes: >> > Rob Young wrote:y >> >> >K >> > As you should know from bitter experience by now what ever conclusionsaM >> > you draw from the powerpoint slide it is only a powerpoint slide and notn >> > the actual working system.  >> > >>I >>         Bitter?  Me?  Nah... but now that you mention "bitter" , how'sbM >>         that Bitter Harvest going over there at ComputerWorld, week number  >>         two?s >>Q >> http://www.computerworld.com/cwi/story/0,1199,NAV47-68-86-101_STO49479,00.htmls >>S >> "Pretty sad, huh? And the situation's even sorrier for customers who switched toSK >> Sun over the past year and a half, while the gag strategy kept them froml= >> finding out about the problem. They're stuck with lemons."  >> > E > Rob you have fallen into the old trap of beleiving what you want tonM > beleive. It made you look lets be kind and say a little ridiculous over theeI > eBay outages and it looks like the whole thing is happening over again.t >   6 	Oh wizened one that is Omnipotent to boot .. do tell!  A 	eBay outages?  Ridiculous?  Tell me about the August 9th outagese> 	that clearly show they were down 4 times in the prior 30 days4 	on their primary server?   Pleeeeeze  , ya bore me.    G > The e-Cache part that has caused Sun customers problems is a standardHN > commodity component provided by one of the worlds largest suppliers of cacheO > memory. The failure rate for this part is higher than expected and one reasonhI > is static and improving the environment in the datacenter to reduce thepG > incidence of static discharge and reducing the temperature which alsorR > can reduce static has the effect of reducing the failure rate of this component. >   ; 	Okay... so than why does Mr. Shoemaker tell us that Sun ish= 	riding to the rescue with mirrored cache?  When it is simply < 	a matter of getting the humidity and temperature and having* 	everyone wearing static free bunny suits?  7 	IQ4Hire tells us the Sun FEs are still clueless as do	aA 	the articles.  Just environmentals?  Here , trim this out again:L  N http://www.computerworld.com/cwi/story/0,1199,NAV47-68-86-101_STO49356,00.html  O "It's embarrassing enough for Sun to have to admit that after a year or more of-J trying, it still can't fix a problem plaguing its top-selling product lineI [Page One, Aug. 28]. Even worse, the company's statements downplaying the L impact of the problem were contradicted by analysts and angry users, who sayM the issue has affected a lot more sites for a lot longer than Sun claims. But F getting caught gagging customers in return for speedy service and full3 disclosure is the real public relations nightmare.""    D http://www.computerworld.com/cwi/story/0,1199,NAV47_STO49485,00.html  P "Since Computerworld first reported the problem last week, additional users haveM come forward to recount similar experiences. Topping their list of complaintsAK are the frequency of server crashes caused by the problem, fixes that don'taN work and Sun's tendency to initially blame the problem on other factors before? acknowledging it - often only under a nondisclosure agreement."-    < 	A year out and they still don't know what is going on.  Ask= 	IQ4Hire, ask Gartner... and others that are tired of the run  	around. 	g > E > They also probably don't realise that some of the environments thatiC > E10K's are running in fall well outside the guidelines in the REDw= > books. In otherwords IBM would not be entirely happy if the ; > customers were running mainframes in the same environmentl? > that they are running Sun's in, but the Sun's are much bigger-& > systems than any existing mainframe. >   8 	So let me guess... the NDAs were to help get the owners6 	of the E10Ks to understand more about environmentals?  ? 	Sheez .. I guess we are particularly dense these days.  That's G 	what happens whereever I have had very RARE server hardware problems, -D 	first thing I have to do is sign an NDA and then they work on it.    
 	Yeah, right.c   > : > So Rob who does make Compaq's cache ???? does it survive > multi-bit failures ??? >   < 	Hummm... I bet it isn't the vendor you are using , but even< 	if it is it seems to do quite a bit better in Compaq boxes.  6 	Oh... If this is a big cache problem with big servers@ 	why is that puny 420R at IQ4Hire crashing all the time and they% 	swap out every component in the box?a   	Isolated incident?   
 	Spin on!!   				Rob    ------------------------------  % Date: Wed, 06 Sep 2000 21:45:17 -0400_* From: David A Froble <davef@tsoft-inc.com>! Subject: Re: Sun's Bitter HarvestT- Message-ID: <39B6F32D.A4F7B7A6@tsoft-inc.com>d   Rob Young wrote: > Q > "It's embarrassing enough for Sun to have to admit that after a year or more oflL > trying, it still can't fix a problem plaguing its top-selling product line  K I knew that there was something wrong with this statement, but it took me a  while to remember it.r  N Back in the 1980 timeframe, part of my job was to advise on the capability andK sizing of systems, VAX and PDP-11.  One of the most frustrating and amusingiP parts of the job were the salesmen that asked their question, and then when theyM didn't like the answer, went and asked other people until they got a responsesO they liked.  The frustrating part was that a salesman doesn't have to support aaO product, just sell it.  So, under-configure to hold the price down and make theh> sale.  The amusing part was the search for the guilty when theM under-configuration became glaringly obvious.  I ALWAYS kept paperwork.  WhenoO the lynch mob appeared at my door, I wouldn't say a word, just hand them a copy 
 of my report.f  N So now we have VMS systems that just keep on running.  We also have people whoN are looking for a better deal.  Seems some of those searchers believed the SunO salesmen.  Meanwhile (aside from RA81 disks, and a few other problems that WEREcK HANDLED OPENLY BY DEC) the VMS users just keep on running, and running, and1L running.  No matter how hard he tries, I doubt the energizer bunny will ever/ catch up with them.  Maybe too boring for some.-   Dave   -- -4 David Froble                       Tel: 724-529-04504 Dave Froble Enterprises, Inc.      Fax: 724-529-0596> DFE Ultralights, Inc.              E-Mail: davef@tsoft-inc.com6 T-Soft, Inc.  170 Grimplin Road  Vanderbilt, PA  15486   ------------------------------   Date: 6 Sep 2000 19:48:59 GMTb& From: Cthulhu <cthulhu@kadath.deep.it># Subject: Re: TCPIP$FTP Bugchecking!t( Message-ID: <8p673b$mk$1@kadath.deep.it>  . Tim Llewellyn <tim.llewellyn@bbc.co.uk> wrote:  H > Nah, post the output an Mark or someone else will try to diagnose your
 > problem.   Uh, thanks! D Next time it will dump, I'll keep the dumpfile and avoid to lost the mail with ANALYZE report! :/   	loosingly,n
 	  Cthulhu -- d  G        Ph'nglui mglw'nafh Cthulhu http://www.rlyeh.it wgah'nagl fhtgan!c# 		        <cthulhu at rlyeh dot it>h   ------------------------------  # Date: Wed, 06 Sep 2000 17:54:46 GMTt From: sjoshi01@my-deja.com Subject: using / in the symbol) Message-ID: <8p60cq$1q6$1@nnrp1.deja.com>-  # New to the vms. Here is my problem.a  G 1. I have the oracle running in alpha. In the dcl when user call any of0E the oracle releted stuff they have to pass the "username/password". Ih@ have bunch files where the username/password has been hardcoded.      It is like $sqlplus deja/deja.  G  They are not using the sqlnet either. In this case user will be loggedlD in to the local database not the remote database. If they use sqlnet2 they will be able to login to the remote database.  D 2. I would like to do the following. I would like to create a symbol like  )     deja/deja == "deja/deja@remotedatase"   F 3. If I am able to do this,then I can add the "'" sign in the front of: the deja/deja, which will then interpreat the deja/deja as deja/deja@remotedatabase.   ? I know that I can not use the "/" when defining the symbol. Any  workaround on this ?     Any help would be appreciated.   Thanks in advance. Sjoshi    & Sent via Deja.com http://www.deja.com/ Before you buy.t   ------------------------------  % Date: Wed, 06 Sep 2000 16:12:56 -0300h1 From: "Boyle, Darren" <boyledj@bankofbermuda.com> " Subject: RE: using / in the symbolK Message-ID: <9F664D538536D411BD3200508B6FF01A8AEA92@bdant027.bda.bobda.com>y  2 Yes why not just use a logical definition for DEJA  + DEF/PROCESS DEJA "DEJA/DEJA@REMOTEDATABASE"v   or a different symbolo  % DEJA1  ==  "DEJA/DEJA@REMOTEDATABASE"y - Darren   > ----------8 > From: 	sjoshi01@my-deja.com[SMTP:sjoshi01@my-deja.com]. > Sent: 	Wednesday, September 06, 2000 2:54 PM > To: 	Info-VAX@Mvb.Saic.Com! > Subject: 	using / in the symbol  > % > New to the vms. Here is my problem.o > I > 1. I have the oracle running in alpha. In the dcl when user call any ofqG > the oracle releted stuff they have to pass the "username/password". IyB > have bunch files where the username/password has been hardcoded. > " >   It is like $sqlplus deja/deja. > I >  They are not using the sqlnet either. In this case user will be loggedsF > in to the local database not the remote database. If they use sqlnet4 > they will be able to login to the remote database. > F > 2. I would like to do the following. I would like to create a symbol > like > + >     deja/deja == "deja/deja@remotedatase"t > H > 3. If I am able to do this,then I can add the "'" sign in the front of< > the deja/deja, which will then interpreat the deja/deja as > deja/deja@remotedatabase.  > A > I know that I can not use the "/" when defining the symbol. Any. > workaround on this ? >  >   > Any help would be appreciated. >  > Thanks in advance. > Sjoshi >  > ( > Sent via Deja.com http://www.deja.com/ > Before you buy.  >     F **********************************************************************C This message and any files transmitted with it are confidential and J may be privileged and/or subject to the provisions of privacy legislation.M They are intended solely for the use of the individual or entity to whom theyaL are addressed. If the reader of this message is not the intended recipient, B please notify the sender immediately and then delete this message.I You are notified that reliance on, disclosure of, distribution or copying  of this message is prohibited.   Bank of BermudaeF **********************************************************************   ------------------------------  % Date: Wed, 06 Sep 2000 17:53:28 -0400 < From: Steven Jacobson <Stephen_Jacobson@THRUWAY.STATE.NY.US>8 Subject: Using RCP to transfer files between VMS and AIX! Message-ID: <s9b684bb.061@tagwia>n  7 We have an Alpha-AXP Running OpenVMS Version 6.2 and=20i' DEC TCP/IP Services V4.1 - ECO Level 2.p  ? A proxy has been added to the TCP$IP Proxy database as follows:   A ucx add proxy someuser /host=3Dunixhost /remote_user=3D"someuser"s  A where "unixhost" is an IBM RS/6000 running AIX v4.3.2, and the IPe( address of unixhost is known to the VAX.  G When we use the "rcp" command on AIX to copy files from AIX to VMS, theiG file is successfully copied, but we receive a number of error messages:s  & unixhost> rcp junk.c   unixhost:junk.c? unixhost: A remote host refused an attempted connect operation. : rcp: 0041-004 Kerberos rcmd failed: rcmd protocol failure.  C When we use the "rcp" command on AIX to copy files from VMS to AIX,tE we receive similar error messages, but in this case the file is NOT =-
 copied.=20  , Any suggestions will be greatly appreciated.   Thanks.     - ---------------------------------------------p Steven J. Jacobson$ Manager, Transportation Systems Team$ Department of Information Technology NYS Thruway Authority  200 Southern Blvd. Albany, NY 12209-2098A Phone: (518) 471-5325n Fax:      (518) 436-3068- Email:   Stephen_Jacobson@thruway.state.ny.us    ------------------------------  $ Date: Wed, 6 Sep 2000 20:49:29 +0200" From: "Hans Vlems" <hvlems@iae.nl> Subject: Re: VMS not startingt( Message-ID: <8p637d$5dh$1@news.IAEhv.nl>   Two things:    1)7 Just changing the value of SCSNODE wouldn't affect VMS."D It would affect DECnet, that just wouldn't start because it verifies; the value for SCSNODE against the executor name. A mismatchr is a fatal error for DECnet.? The same applies for the DECnet address. As explained elsewheret= there's a relation between SCSSYSTEMID and the DECnet addres.e/ A mismatch would fail STARTNET.COM to complete.t! That shoud not affect VMS either.    2)D If your report is complete, that is you _only_ changed SCSNODE, thenE your MODPARAMS.DAT file is not complete, possibly incorrect. At least % the entry for SCSSYSTEMID is missing.h1 Since VMS won't start I'd guess a lot is missing.i  D The only way to figure out what is wrong is to boot into SYSBOOT and@ set STARTUP_P1 to "MIN" and check the contents of MODPARAMS.DAT.  
 Hans Vlems    0 rothsteh@my-deja.com heeft geschreven in bericht  <8p5q8j$poe$1@nnrp1.deja.com>... >Hello,r >o- >I made the following change to my VMS 5.5-2.t >d >SCSNODE = "test"  >n0 >and used autogen to make the changes and reboot >the system. >a* >When it came back up, it told me that the0 >SCSNODENUM was not set to a non zero value, and1 >decnet did not start correctly. Does anyone havea! >any clue how I can rectify this?d >a >Thanksc >s >Howie >  >p' >Sent via Deja.com http://www.deja.com/  >Before you buy.   ------------------------------  % Date: Wed, 06 Sep 2000 16:09:34 -0300 1 From: "Boyle, Darren" <boyledj@bankofbermuda.com>l Subject: RE: VMS not starting K Message-ID: <9F664D538536D411BD3200508B6FF01A8AEA91@bdant027.bda.bobda.com>r  J His message clearly states his problem is with DECNet not VMS although the. subject on the other hand is referring to VMS. - Darren   > ----------' > From: 	Hans Vlems[SMTP:hvlems@iae.nl]m. > Sent: 	Wednesday, September 06, 2000 3:49 PM > To: 	Info-VAX@Mvb.Saic.Com  > Subject: 	Re: VMS not starting > 
 > Two things:a >  > 1)9 > Just changing the value of SCSNODE wouldn't affect VMS.cF > It would affect DECnet, that just wouldn't start because it verifies= > the value for SCSNODE against the executor name. A mismatchl > is a fatal error for DECnet.A > The same applies for the DECnet address. As explained elsewheref? > there's a relation between SCSSYSTEMID and the DECnet addres. 1 > A mismatch would fail STARTNET.COM to complete. # > That shoud not affect VMS either.a >  > 2)F > If your report is complete, that is you _only_ changed SCSNODE, thenG > your MODPARAMS.DAT file is not complete, possibly incorrect. At leaste' > the entry for SCSSYSTEMID is missing.t3 > Since VMS won't start I'd guess a lot is missing.p > F > The only way to figure out what is wrong is to boot into SYSBOOT andB > set STARTUP_P1 to "MIN" and check the contents of MODPARAMS.DAT. >  > Hans Vlems >  > 2 > rothsteh@my-deja.com heeft geschreven in bericht" > <8p5q8j$poe$1@nnrp1.deja.com>...	 > >Hello,o > >e/ > >I made the following change to my VMS 5.5-2.a > >t > >SCSNODE = "test"h > >i2 > >and used autogen to make the changes and reboot > >the system. > >n, > >When it came back up, it told me that the2 > >SCSNODENUM was not set to a non zero value, and3 > >decnet did not start correctly. Does anyone haveh# > >any clue how I can rectify this?m > >,	 > >Thanks  > >o > >Howie > >t > > ) > >Sent via Deja.com http://www.deja.com/t > >Before you buy. >  >  >     F **********************************************************************C This message and any files transmitted with it are confidential andaJ may be privileged and/or subject to the provisions of privacy legislation.M They are intended solely for the use of the individual or entity to whom theysL are addressed. If the reader of this message is not the intended recipient, B please notify the sender immediately and then delete this message.I You are notified that reliance on, disclosure of, distribution or copying- of this message is prohibited.   Bank of BermudanF **********************************************************************   ------------------------------   End of INFO-VAX 2000.500 ************************ndrew Harrison SUNUK Consultancy <andrew.nospam@uk.sun.com> writes:b > Rob Young wrote: > r >> In article <39B5FB87.57F1B68F@uk.sun.com>, Andrew Harrison SUNUK Consultancy <andrew.nospam@uk.sun.com> writes: >> > Rob Young wrote:y >> >> >K >> > As you should know from bitter experience by now what ever conclusionsaM >> > you draw from the powerpoint slide it is only a powerpoinAXP                               Language: DEC C 5.2 (AMD & MMOV audio)  O ------------------------------------------------------------------------------- L TIMIDITY-202-BIN.ZIP              MIDI and MOD player using GUS or SoundFontO TIMIDITY-202.ZIP                  samples. Many Midi effects and Karaoke/lyrics ;                                   display supported. V 2.02 N                                   Author: Tuukka Toivonen <toivonen@clinet.fi>A VAX                               Language: DEC C 5.