1 INFO-VAX	Fri, 29 Sep 2000	Volume 2000 : Issue 545       Contents:) Re: 40/80GB density selection on DLT8000? 4 Anybody heard of Michel Valentin, author of PC DCL ?8 RE: Anybody heard of Michel Valentin, author of PC DCL ? Apache question  Re: Apache question 6 Re: Backup restore problem with Sony SDT-9000 DDS3 DAT Re: CA7?3 Re: Can anyone share some sample code for X.25 qio? # Cluster and changing diskclass name ' RE: Cluster and changing diskclass name - Compaq Advertising OpenVMS escapes Captivity! H Compaq product positioning - no Alphas "for small and medium businesses"L Re: Compaq product positioning - no Alphas "for small and medium businesses"L Re: Compaq product positioning - no Alphas "for small and medium businesses"1 Re: DEC 3000 memory problems? (VMS boot problems) 1 Re: DEC 3000 memory problems? (VMS boot problems)  Re: DEC Rescue ? Re: Default gateway in VMS, Re: Deleting 250,000+ files from a directory Re: Digital Business Link  Re: Digital Business Link  Re: Digital Business Link  Re: ECO mailing list Re: ECO mailing list Re: ECO mailing list; RE: FDDI joined interface configurations with Multinet v4.3 ! FTP client/server bug TCPIP 5.0A?  FW: Hmmmmmm # Getting Compaq to advertise OpenVMS  how long should DIFF take? Re: how long should DIFF take?1 Re: Improving ALPHA (OpenVMS in particular) sales 1 Re: Improving ALPHA (OpenVMS in particular) sales 
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Dachtera <djesys.nospam@earthlink.net> writes: > > These guys are too new to have that level of support in VMS.  H   Bleagh. There's a comp.os.vms post from 11 months ago archived on deja9 asking about DLT8000's, so they're nearly a year old now.   H   Can someone with the 7.3 EFT1 kit check to see if 7.3 knows about this8 density, and if not, send a bug report in on it? Thanks!  - 	Terry Kennedy             http://www.tmk.com 5         terry@tmk.com             Jersey City, NJ USA    ------------------------------  % Date: Fri, 29 Sep 2000 12:18:51 -0400 6 From: "S Paquin" <stephane.paquin@nospam.ispatnet.com>= Subject: Anybody heard of Michel Valentin, author of PC DCL ? 2 Message-ID: <Nh3B5.31807$Z2.470045@nnrp1.uunet.ca>  H     Once in a while, I post this hoping somebody can reach the author ofK this great DOS utility, a DCL emulator. The original version was written in J 1992 and I have it working under NT also. I would be interested in putting my hand on the source code.        Regards.       Stephane   ------------------------------  % Date: Fri, 29 Sep 2000 13:17:21 -0400 : From: "Koska, John C. (LNG-MBC)" <John.C.Koska@bender.com>A Subject: RE: Anybody heard of Michel Valentin, author of PC DCL ? K Message-ID: <91A9507020DBD311992F0008C709517C545BC2@MBCALBEXC00.BENDER.COM>   : Perhaps it is Jean-Michel Valentin at <jmv@linuxfr.org>.  ? I believe from http://www.panix.com/~kingdon/vms/microdcl.html  = that microDCL had a Debian Free Software agreement with it.    And searching,  C http://lists.openresources.com/Debian/debian-french/maillist.html , = I came up with Jean-Michel Valentin.  You might want to drop  D him some email to see if he/she is the individual you are interested in.   ' By the way, my searching was done with  = http://www.northernlight.com/ and their OpenVMS AlphaServers!    :) jck   > -----Original Message-----= > From: S Paquin [mailto:stephane.paquin@nospam.ispatnet.com] + > Sent: Friday, September 29, 2000 12:19 PM  > To: Info-VAX@mvb.saic.com ? > Subject: Anybody heard of Michel Valentin, author of PC DCL ?  >  > = >     Once in a while, I post this hoping somebody can reach   > the author of ? > this great DOS utility, a DCL emulator. The original version   > was written in7 > 1992 and I have it working under NT also. I would be   > interested in putting  > my hand on the source code.  >  >     Regards. >  >     Stephane >  >  >    ------------------------------  # Date: Fri, 29 Sep 2000 07:41:00 GMT  From: Dirk Munk <munk@home.nl> Subject: Apache question' Message-ID: <39D4478B.35E9E7E0@home.nl>   E We are in the process of setting up a Apache web server on one of our 
 VMS boxes.  D The first thing we would like to do is to make the VMS documentationH available. We have setup two LDA logical disk drives, and used backup to1 copy both VMS documentation CD's on these drives.   ? But now we have no idea how we can bring Apache to access these 
 drives....  * Can anyone give us a hint how to do this ?   Regards,   Dirk   ------------------------------  % Date: Fri, 29 Sep 2000 06:43:07 -0400 3 From: "Gaitan D'Antoni" <gaitan.dantoni@compaq.com>  Subject: Re: Apache question6 Message-ID: <8r1rpp$jt8$1@mailint03.im.hou.compaq.com>  K Here's how I make SYS$HELP available. You can do something similar for your  CDs.  K Edit APACHE$ROOT:[CONF]HTTPD.CONF and add the following Alias and Directory 4 commands somewhere near any existing Alias commands.  # Alias /help/  "/sys$common/syshlp/"     <Directory "/sys$common/syshlp">     Options Indexes MultiViews     AllowOverride None     Order allow,deny     Allow from all </Directory>  ( In a browser enter http://hostname/help/   Gaitan D'Antoni   COM for OpenVMS Technical Leader5 http://www.openvms.digital.com/openvms/products/dcom/ . Apache Web Server for OpenVMS Technical LeaderF http://www.openvms.digital.com/openvms/products/ips/apache/apache.html Compaq Computer Corporation   9 Dirk Munk wrote in message <39D4478B.35E9E7E0@home.nl>... F >We are in the process of setting up a Apache web server on one of our >VMS boxes.  > E >The first thing we would like to do is to make the VMS documentation I >available. We have setup two LDA logical disk drives, and used backup to 2 >copy both VMS documentation CD's on these drives. > @ >But now we have no idea how we can bring Apache to access these >drives....  > + >Can anyone give us a hint how to do this ?  > 	 >Regards,  >  >Dirk    ------------------------------  % Date: Fri, 29 Sep 2000 07:39:22 -0400 2 From: "Richard B. Gilbert" <DRAGON@compuserve.com>? Subject: Re: Backup restore problem with Sony SDT-9000 DDS3 DAT 7 Message-ID: <200009290739_MC2-B51E-8D05@compuserve.com>   ; 	DIOLM is way to low, minimum is 4096 here.  BIOLM=3DFILLM,  and ASTLM=3DDIOLM+10.   = 	These settings may not be the cause of your problem but your B performance will be less than optimal until you make the indicated changes.  9 Message text written by INTERNET:gartmann@immunbio.mpg.de J >In article <39D35475.6F4E3573@clarityconnect.com>, "Mark D. Jilson" <jil= ly@clarityconnect.com> writes:F >Would you post the quotas for the account the BACKUP is run under and$ >the SYSGEN param CHANNELCNT please.   Account's quota:  9 Maxjobs:         0  Fillm:       300  Bytlm:        90000 9 Maxacctjobs:     0  Shrfillm:      0  Pbytlm:           0 9 Maxdetach:       0  BIOlm:       200  JTquota:       4096 9 Prclm:          10  DIOlm:       200  WSdef:         8000 9 Prio:            4  ASTlm:       250  WSquo:         8000 9 Queprio:         0  TQElm:        56  WSextent:     32000 9 CPU:        (none)  Enqlm:      2000  Pgflquo:     250000   J And I tried it under the SYSTEM account with EXQUOTA privilege. Same resu= lt.    CHANNELCNT is 627.<    ------------------------------  % Date: Fri, 29 Sep 2000 10:35:44 -0500 1 From: "Dave Gudewicz" <david.gudewicz@abbott.com>  Subject: Re: CA7? 8 Message-ID: <8r2cli$qmt$1@fizban.fizban.pprd.abbott.com>   Hoff,   F I say you declare a RED alert with full power to shields and ready allI phasers to " for once and for all" get rid of anything that even remotely 8 associates (no pun intended) CA to anything you guys do.  D You might try a tachyon burst.  That's been known to work in extreme situations.   + But please, do not try any of this at home.    Dave...   ? "Hoff Hoffman" <hoffman@xdelta.zko.dec.nospam> wrote in message 0 news:8r0fms$eo3$2@mailint03.im.hou.compaq.com... > ; > In article <39D3A649.A0D6A616@Easynet.fr>, Didier Morandi # <Didier.Morandi@Easynet.fr> writes: H > :Ages ago, I remember a DEC product suite called Polycenter, with manyJ > :utilities. Most of them have been sold to Computer Associate and became# > :part of the Unicenter TNG offer.  >  >   Correct. > L > :Today, OpenVMS Polycenter is, as you may know, the new name of VMSINSTAL. >  > 4 >   The POLYCENTER Software Installation utility is: > H >     o not part of the suite of POLYCENTER products that are now at CA. > K >     o supported by OpenVMS Engineering, and is seeing active development.  > ' >     o quite different from VMSINSTAL.  >  > F > :I asked some (good) friends at COMPAQ, none know about CA7/OpenVMS.F > :So I went to CA and I have been told that there is a CA7 operations > :management tool for... MVS. > F >   AFAIK, CA7 is available for various platforms.  Including OpenVMS.B >   In at least some of the older versions, CA7 had some (invalid)J >   assumptions around the range of OpenVMS queue entry numbers permitted.F >   OpenVMS had assumed this was an opaque longword, and CA7 didn't... > 6 > :Does this story ring a bell to someone around here? > E >   Engineering has recently been discussing the confusion around the B >   (confusing) use of the POLYCENTER term in the OpenVMS software> >   installation tool, as well as the use of the PCSI acronym. > , >  --------------------------- pure personal# opinion --------------------------- 1 >    Hoff (Stephen) Hoffman   OpenVMS Engineering  hoffman#xdelta.zko.dec.com >    ------------------------------  % Date: Fri, 29 Sep 2000 10:49:09 +0200 = From: Arne =?iso-8859-1?Q?Vajh=F8j?= <arne.vajhoej@gtech.com> < Subject: Re: Can anyone share some sample code for X.25 qio?) Message-ID: <39D45785.56E81138@gtech.com>    "antonio.carlini" wrote: > Arne Vajhj wrote:@ > > Many years ago there were a program PSICOPY (with an obvious > > functionality).  > > # > > You could try and look at that.  > > > When last I looked PSICOPY was available on the Freeware CD,B > however, it did *not* include sources just binaries and possibly
 > objects.   I was not aware of that.   Sorry.   Arne   ------------------------------  % Date: Fri, 29 Sep 2000 08:28:31 +0200 6 From: "Dijk, Jeroen van" <Jeroen.vandijk@getronics.nl>, Subject: Cluster and changing diskclass nameM Message-ID: <2795B75EF003D311801A00A0C906B511A2ADDB@cucexec.gbc.getronics.nl>   3 I want to change the disks names from dkb* to dkc*.   M Reason I want to change is that I want to add a cluster member in a cluster,  o but I get the error message that the systemdisk is already connected to the cluster with scsi id 6 and as dkc0.   2 On the boot prompt I see the system disk as dkb0. f Is there a way to change this without adding an extra scsi controller or bringing the other node down.  Q The diskcontroller is a HSZ50, the node is an alpha 2100, the VMS version is 6.2.   s I know under 7.1 there is a new feature where it is possible to change from $1$dkb* into $5$dka*, but that changes  K the naming all the shared disks and means a reboot of all the active nodes.   B I need an answer quick, because today is the last day of the test.        -- Jeroen M.W. van Dijk  Getronics Business Continuity BV8 Error #152 - Windows not found: (C)heer (P)arty (D)ance.   ------------------------------  % Date: Fri, 29 Sep 2000 13:18:58 +0200 6 From: "Dijk, Jeroen van" <Jeroen.vandijk@getronics.nl>0 Subject: RE: Cluster and changing diskclass nameM Message-ID: <2795B75EF003D311801A00A0C906B511A2ADDF@cucexec.gbc.getronics.nl>   L We have solved the problem with adding an extra scsi psi card in alpha 2100.  4 But I still interessed in an other way to solve it.    -- Jeroen M.W. van Dijk  Getronics Business Continuity BV8 Error #152 - Windows not found: (C)heer (P)arty (D)ance.             -----Original Message----- From: Dijk, Jeroen van  $ Sent: vrijdag 29 september 2000 8:29 To: Info-VAX@Mvb.Saic.Com , Subject: Cluster and changing diskclass name      3 I want to change the disks names from dkb* to dkc*.   M Reason I want to change is that I want to add a cluster member in a cluster,  o but I get the error message that the systemdisk is already connected to the cluster with scsi id 6 and as dkc0.   2 On the boot prompt I see the system disk as dkb0. f Is there a way to change this without adding an extra scsi controller or bringing the other node down.  Q The diskcontroller is a HSZ50, the node is an alpha 2100, the VMS version is 6.2.   s I know under 7.1 there is a new feature where it is possible to change from $1$dkb* into $5$dka*, but that changes  K the naming all the shared disks and means a reboot of all the active nodes.   B I need an answer quick, because today is the last day of the test.        -- Jeroen M.W. van Dijk  Getronics Business Continuity BV8 Error #152 - Windows not found: (C)heer (P)arty (D)ance.   ------------------------------    Date: 29 Sep 2000 13:44:08 -05002 From: malmberg@eisner.decus.org (John E. Malmberg)6 Subject: Compaq Advertising OpenVMS escapes Captivity!+ Message-ID: <nQ2waZmxzU4N@eisner.decus.org>   B In the clear mailing bag with the last issue of CIO magazine there? was an Advertising brochure for Extreme E-business from Compaq.   A It focused on the Alpha Server line and featured both OpenVMS ande Tru64.   ------------------------------   Date: 29 Sep 2000 15:42:15 GMT2 From: mathog@seqaxp.bio.caltech.edu (David Mathog)Q Subject: Compaq product positioning - no Alphas "for small and medium businesses"t, Message-ID: <8r2d8n$8o7@gap.cco.caltech.edu>  I If you visit www.compaq.com and check out the products offered for "smallsI and medium businesses" under "servers", "desktops", or "workstations" youaK will find that no Alpha products whatsoever are mentioned.  You have to get H into the enterprise section before you can find a link to Alpha systems.  H I don't know what Compaq thinks small and medium size businesses are butJ there are a bunch of startup genomics houses which aren't any too big thatI would be good candidates for Alphas.  Ditto for a lot of small and mediumiI engineering firms.  The DS10 is nice but by no stretch of the imagination " is it an enterprise class system.   K Looks like they don't want to confuse their potential customers by offeringrH them too many options!  (Or heaven forbid, allowing them access to price lists!)   E (Also, the Q web site continues to be a royal PITA.  It's like a huge J advertisement saying "we don't know squat about e-business!" I always haveH to shut javascript on their home page to eliminate a bunch of javascriptI errors, but then when I got to the enterprise page, had to reenable it todH follow the "servers" link.  Pretty, but nonfunctional.  Looks like they G apply that philosophy not only to their consumer grade PCs but also to a their web site.)   Regards,   David Mathog mathog@seqaxp.bio.caltech.educ? Manager, sequence analysis facility, biology division, Caltech     ------------------------------  # Date: Fri, 29 Sep 2000 16:20:15 GMTa= From: system@SendSpamHere.ORG (Brian Schenkenberger, VAXman-):U Subject: Re: Compaq product positioning - no Alphas "for small and medium businesses"20 Message-ID: <009F0D98.16393303@SendSpamHere.ORG>  a In article <8r2d8n$8o7@gap.cco.caltech.edu>, mathog@seqaxp.bio.caltech.edu (David Mathog) writes: J >If you visit www.compaq.com and check out the products offered for "smallJ >and medium businesses" under "servers", "desktops", or "workstations" youL >will find that no Alpha products whatsoever are mentioned.  You have to getI >into the enterprise section before you can find a link to Alpha systems.>   Compaq is a PC company.l    I >I don't know what Compaq thinks small and medium size businesses are but K >there are a bunch of startup genomics houses which aren't any too big thatnJ >would be good candidates for Alphas.  Ditto for a lot of small and mediumJ >engineering firms.  The DS10 is nice but by no stretch of the imagination# >is it an enterprise class system. o   Compaq is a PC company.d    L >Looks like they don't want to confuse their potential customers by offeringI >them too many options!  (Or heaven forbid, allowing them access to pricea	 >lists!) .   Compaq is a PC company.I    H Since the purchase of d|i|g|i|t|a|l by Compaq, I get only brochures withH PCs.  Save for the postcard witht he fat little newspaper boy announcingH the "OpenVMS Times" I see no VMS or Alpha liturature in hardcopy stuffedH in my snail mailbox.  The world perceives Compaq only as PC company withG PCs which are touted as "proprietary" to boot.  I don't understand thisPH "proprietary" claim but whenever I wear a T-shirt with the "Q" logo, theI only comments I hear concern how folks hate the "proprietary" Compaq box. H Is there no PCI?  Intel chip?  Std. SIMMs or DIMMs in these boxes?  WhatH is the gripe?  (Not that it's really import, I'm not going to purchase a PC anyway -- just curiosity.)m     F >(Also, the Q web site continues to be a royal PITA.  It's like a hugeK >advertisement saying "we don't know squat about e-business!" I always have(I >to shut javascript on their home page to eliminate a bunch of javascripteJ >errors, but then when I got to the enterprise page, had to reenable it toI >follow the "servers" link.  Pretty, but nonfunctional.  Looks like they nH >apply that philosophy not only to their consumer grade PCs but also to  >their web site.)P  G Let me join you and together we can cry a river to dwarf the Amazon.  IhI can't believe how disfunctional the Compaq (other companies too) web sitelH is.  I recently posted a query as to the disappearance of www.networks.-F digital.com.  www.dnpg.com is just as bad for navigation as the CompaqF pages.  Too much emphasis is put on the presentation look-and-feel andG not enough (if any) on the site content.  Maybe it simple the incorrectrE assumption that the public is not savvy enough to navigate a web sitec" constructed with basic HTML links.  I One thing I did like about attending DECUS trade shows since the purchaseoH of DEC was that I could see equipment/products that I simply would neverI see or find on the Compaq pages.  Hey, I purchased the LNC02 after seeingeH it at the trade show.  I didn't even know -- prior to the show -- that aI color laser was anywhere in their product lineup.  Found lots of links to-# ink-jet technology printers though.0   --O VAXman- OpenVMS APE certification number: AAA-0001     VAXman(at)TMESIS(dot)COMg             O city, n., 1. a place where trees are cut down and streets are named after them.l   ------------------------------   Date: 29 Sep 2000 16:50:26 GMT* From: bdwheele@indiana.edu (Brian Wheeler)U Subject: Re: Compaq product positioning - no Alphas "for small and medium businesses"y3 Message-ID: <8r2h8i$dqr$1@flotsam.uits.indiana.edu>   0 In article <009F0D98.16393303@sendspamhere.org>,@ 	system@SendSpamHere.ORG (Brian Schenkenberger, VAXman-) writes: > J > Since the purchase of d|i|g|i|t|a|l by Compaq, I get only brochures withJ > PCs.  Save for the postcard witht he fat little newspaper boy announcingJ > the "OpenVMS Times" I see no VMS or Alpha liturature in hardcopy stuffedJ > in my snail mailbox.  The world perceives Compaq only as PC company withI > PCs which are touted as "proprietary" to boot.  I don't understand thisfJ > "proprietary" claim but whenever I wear a T-shirt with the "Q" logo, theK > only comments I hear concern how folks hate the "proprietary" Compaq box.-J > Is there no PCI?  Intel chip?  Std. SIMMs or DIMMs in these boxes?  WhatJ > is the gripe?  (Not that it's really import, I'm not going to purchase a > PC anyway -- just curiosity.)5 >  D  E 	Compaq tends (or at least tended) to make machines which were nearlyeI standard, but not quite.  On-board things like disk controllers, ethernetnN cards, the BIOS, were sometimes _not_quite_ like everyone else.  In fact, theyI also made a bunch of keyboards with speakers in them that used a _SQUARE_c connection.  Terribly annoying.s  B 	Search some of the earlier linux-kernel mailing lists for compaq,6 and you'll find some less than flattering comments....    
 Brian Wheelere   ------------------------------  % Date: Thu, 28 Sep 2000 22:59:20 -0700n* From: "Howard M. Harte" <hharte@cisco.com>: Subject: Re: DEC 3000 memory problems? (VMS boot problems), Message-ID: <970207368.37982@sj-nntpcache-3>   Thanks Dave and Dave,k  K     I figured it out this evening.  I replaced the memory "tree" boards onehJ by one, substituting one of the four-high SIMM boards from a 3000/800 withH the appropriate slots filled.  It turned out to be a bad MBB memory treeL board.  I got the machine working, and actually put in all four memory treesI from the 800.  I can't fit the cover on any more, but now I have 192MB oflL RAM.  I tried known good SIMMs in the bad tree and they fail, so I know it'sI the board.  It would be nice to be able to narrow it down to which bit(s)MJ are failing, because then I would know which chip to replace on the board.I Looks like there are only 74ABT374's and 74ABT373's on there.  I'm prettySH sure one of those is bad. I carefully looked at all the SIMM sockets and none appear to be damaged.  L     Well, now that the mem problem is figured out, I got VMS 1.5 to boot.  IF was able to get into the machine by doing the conversational boot, andL removing the UAF file.  Then, I rebooted, logged in as SYSTEM, and created aA new UAF file.  Since I didn't care about any of the previous user2C information, that worked for me. I tried doing the "spawn" thing aseK suggested in the FAQ, but it didn't work.  I also tried using the alternate L UAF file parameter, and that didn't work.  Finally I just tried removing theL UAF file, and it did work.  Anyway, I'm bored with the system now, and can'tG wait to get the hobbyist VMS distribution.  I want to get TCP/IP up andnF running so I can add it to my network.  I don't know if Linux supports DECnet.g  K     Can anyone tell me, what was the history of OpenVMS?  I notice that the J version I have is 1.5, and I only recall ever seeing V5.x-6.x on the VaxenI that I used at school.  Seems like the v1.5 is copyrighted around 1993 ormH so.  Was there a different naming convention for a while on OpenVMS, andE then did they merge it into the VMS naming convention?  (Ie, like howeH Microsoft Word skipped from V2.x to 6.x to catch up with WordPerfect...)  *     Thanks for the help and information...       -Howarde  C "Dave Greenwood" <greenwoodde@feda34.fed.ornl.gov> wrote in messagee, news:28SEP00.15371405@feda34.fed.ornl.gov...D > In a previous article, "Howard M. Harte" <hharte@cisco.com> wrote: > [snip] > > DEC 3000 - M400t! > > Digital Equipment Corporationl$ > > System conducting power up tests@ > > ------------------------------------------------------------ > >n > > Devnam           Devstat > > --------         -------I > >      CPU          OK KN15-BA -V2.4-S462-I077-sV1.0-DECchip 21064 P3.0  > >     ASIC          OK& > >      MEM          ?? 828 0050 64MB > >      NVR          OKE > >      SCC          OK ptr(0) = Not Present  keybd(2) = Not Present D > >       NI          OK Ethernet Address: 08-00-2B-32-C3-F9 , TENBT > >     SCSI          OK > >     ISDN          OK@ > > ------------------------------------------------------------, > > System power up tests detected error(s).7 > > See your system documentation for more information.e > >s > >E > > >>> test mem' > > T-STS-MEM - Current Test ParametersbJ > > T-STS-MEM -  lo_addr = 00200000   init_mem    = ON    test_bad_pages = OFFnL > > T-STS-MEM -  hi_addr = 04000000   stop_on_err = ON       max_retries = 00 > > T-STS-MEM - Corrected Error count = 0000000EH > > LAS_biu_stat  = 00000000.00003B40  LAS_biu_addr  = 00000000.000F8018H > > LAS_fill_synd = 00000000.00002C00  LAS_fill_addr = 00000000.000588D0% > > ? T-ERR-MEM - FAILED, status = 50e > >  > > ?? 828       MEM 0x0050d > [snip] >o@ > You could try   >>> show error   to see if that adds anything. > I > According to my Dec 3000 Model 400/400S AXP Owner's Guide, the "828" isoH > the "Field Replaceable Unit (FRU) number.  The FRU is a Digital numberJ > allocated to a component or module in your system."  The "0x0050" is theJ > hex error number.  The Guide goes on to say that "for a complete list ofG > FRU numbers and diagnostic test error numbers, see the DEC 3000 Modelc > 400/400S AXP Service Guide". >cK > So all you need to do is trudge on down to your local purveyor of ServicesE > Guides and get one and you'll be able to determine what you need tos > replace.  Good luck. >t > Dave > --------------; > Dave Greenwood                Email: Greenwoodde@ORNL.GOVeJ > Oak Ridge National Lab        %STD-W-DISCLAIMER, I only speak for myself   ------------------------------  % Date: Fri, 29 Sep 2000 10:54:28 -0400h* From: David A Froble <davef@tsoft-inc.com>: Subject: Re: DEC 3000 memory problems? (VMS boot problems)- Message-ID: <39D4AD24.CCBB4F30@tsoft-inc.com>    "Howard M. Harte" wrote: > M >     Can anyone tell me, what was the history of OpenVMS?  I notice that thetL > version I have is 1.5, and I only recall ever seeing V5.x-6.x on the VaxenK > that I used at school.  Seems like the v1.5 is copyrighted around 1993 oroJ > so.  Was there a different naming convention for a while on OpenVMS, andG > then did they merge it into the VMS naming convention?  (Ie, like howDJ > Microsoft Word skipped from V2.x to 6.x to catch up with WordPerfect...)  N When VMS was ported to Alpha, they started with version 1.0 (or something likeK that), bad idea.  After 1.5 the VAX and Alpha versions were rather close iniM terms of what they did, and for V6.2 the Alpha version numbering was made the P same as for VAX.  Now, while the VAX versions correspond the the Alpha versions,7 not all new features are put into the VAX version.  :-(   ' Most of this is, I believe, in the FAQ.u   -- R4 David Froble                       Tel: 724-529-04504 Dave Froble Enterprises, Inc.      Fax: 724-529-0596> DFE Ultralights, Inc.              E-Mail: davef@tsoft-inc.com6 T-Soft, Inc.  170 Grimplin Road  Vanderbilt, PA  15486   ------------------------------  % Date: Fri, 29 Sep 2000 11:01:14 +02000= From: Arne =?iso-8859-1?Q?Vajh=F8j?= <arne.vajhoej@gtech.com>e Subject: Re: DEC Rescue ?i) Message-ID: <39D45A5A.6F8FC5B9@gtech.com>,   Didier Morandi wrote:i > Mike Kenzie wrote:4 > > Does anyone know what has happened to this list? > >oL > > I have a VAXstation in Ottawa I'm trying to get running again and need a > > monitor. > D > You know why you have no replies ? :-) Because the question is not> > clear. Where is the link between this list and your problem?   ????  E He clearly asked "what happended to the DEC Rescue mail-list ?". Thats@ is a very clear answer. Unfortunatetly I do not know the answer.   Arne   ------------------------------  % Date: Fri, 29 Sep 2000 11:07:02 +0200i= From: Arne =?iso-8859-1?Q?Vajh=F8j?= <arne.vajhoej@gtech.com>t# Subject: Re: Default gateway in VMS ) Message-ID: <39D45BB5.CE74EE16@gtech.com>-   mindphaser23@my-deja.com wrote: C > VMS is completely new to me. In Windows, you can set up a DefaultuE > Gateway under TCP/IP Properties. How would one do this in VMS? I amg< > running VMS 5.2HW on a VAX 4000-90 over a 10BaseT network.   Depends in the TCP/IP package.   But assuming UCX version <5.0:  1 $ UCX SET ROUTE /GATE=x.x.x.x /DEFAULT /PERMANENTm   Arne   ------------------------------  % Date: Fri, 29 Sep 2000 05:00:25 +0100   From: Paul Sture <paul@sture.ch>5 Subject: Re: Deleting 250,000+ files from a directorye+ Message-ID: <VA.000000e5.35c91ebd@sture.ch>t  M In article <y48zseb5gd.fsf@mailhost.neuroinformatik.ruhr-uni-bochum.de>, Jan   Vorbrueggen wrote:I > From: Jan Vorbrueggen <jan@mailhost.neuroinformatik.ruhr-uni-bochum.de>M > Newsgroups: comp.os.vms 7 > Subject: Re: Deleting 250,000+ files from a directorys" > Date: 27 Sep 2000 10:32:34 +0200 > $ > Paul Sture <paul@sture.ch> writes: > O > > I had a similar problem a couple of weeks ago, although with a mere 25,000 oO > > files. I did the reverse sorting trick and still got very slow performance a > > (Alpha VMS V7.2-1).  > L > I thought that starting with V7.2, the XQP does directory I/O in 128 blockO > chunks, so that even the forward-order delete is much faster than previously?  > P Yes, I had that in mind when I started, was disappointed at the performance, so P tried the reverse delete. Very little difference in either method, as it turned P out, (subjective, stop watch only estimate), which in prior versions would have  yielded different results.  N The moral is that it still takes a lot of time (hours) to delete thousands of P files, and I can only agree with criticisms seen here that VMS can be "slow" in 
 this respect.l  N On that note, what joy it was to do a "rm -rf /windows" from Linux on my home M Win98 system and see it complete in 2 seconds or so. I didn't believe it had .M done it so fast, so added a "sync". That was instantaneous too. Under DOS it -C would have taken quite some time, so VMS is not on its own here :-)m ___i
 Paul Sture Switzerlandt   ------------------------------  % Date: Fri, 29 Sep 2000 06:27:19 -0500a) From: Mike Drabicky <drabicky#dallas.net>m" Subject: Re: Digital Business Link8 Message-ID: <uou8ts4fct2eqt29bcmuisa0oudqa10faj@4ax.com>  . On Tue, 26 Sep 2000 16:22:57 GMT, "John Nixon"# <jorlnixon@worldnet.att.net> wrote:s  2 >Have they changed their minds on the fate of DBL? >/K >The login message directs you to a page that says DBL is in the process oflM >being retired in all countries by the end of December, 2000.  It then points-L >you to a page listing alternative access points.  For the United States, itG >tells customers to continue using DBL until notified of another access  >point.a >fK >Does this mean that they are going to give us an alternative, and not just>I >take DBL away?  Did somebody actually "listen", or am I reading too muchl >into this?m  E What they do is point you to the Compaq Partner Network page and say,n@ "Get the info from there." Reluctantly, I went to the CPN pages,A looking for the DBL replacement. The web site was as worthless as C normal. I search and search then finally found where on CPN I couldi. get prices. It pointed me back to DBL. Sigh...  E And no, they don't listen. I suggested to them on many occasions thatA@ rather than diminish or eliminate DBL that they enchance it. TheD support the 2-5-2 part numbers from Digital, add support for the 6-3E Compaq part numbers. Add pictures and descriptions of what I'm buyingeF ala http://www.buy.com where they should you want picture and give youD details on what you're spending your money on. Instead, they plan onF getting rid of one of the easiet to use tools that those of us outside2 of Digital/Compaq have to get pricing on products.  F If the people making those decisions would play outside the wall for aC while, they might find it hard to get at information those of us int/ the Digital/Compaq world need on a daily basis.n  E As for Digital/Compaq managers/decision makers listening to us out inm# the field, nah, ain't gonna happen.   
 Mike Drabicky,   ------------------------------  % Date: Fri, 29 Sep 2000 10:59:33 -0400s* From: David A Froble <davef@tsoft-inc.com>" Subject: Re: Digital Business Link- Message-ID: <39D4AE55.BC8B5258@tsoft-inc.com>S   Mike Drabicky wrote: > H > If the people making those decisions would play outside the wall for aE > while, they might find it hard to get at information those of us inS1 > the Digital/Compaq world need on a daily basis.e  P Won't help!  Spoke recently with one.  They have the same problems.  You'd thinkI this would get something moving, but apparently not.  I offered help.  Nos	 interest.s   -- ,4 David Froble                       Tel: 724-529-04504 Dave Froble Enterprises, Inc.      Fax: 724-529-0596> DFE Ultralights, Inc.              E-Mail: davef@tsoft-inc.com6 T-Soft, Inc.  170 Grimplin Road  Vanderbilt, PA  15486   ------------------------------   Date: 29 Sep 2000 15:24:10 GMT2 From: hoffman@xdelta.zko.dec.nospam (Hoff Hoffman)" Subject: Re: Digital Business Link6 Message-ID: <8r2c6q$md6$2@mailint03.im.hou.compaq.com>  d In article <uou8ts4fct2eqt29bcmuisa0oudqa10faj@4ax.com>, Mike Drabicky <drabicky#dallas.net> writes:G :If the people making those decisions would play outside the wall for anD :while, they might find it hard to get at information those of us in0 :the Digital/Compaq world need on a daily basis. :tF :As for Digital/Compaq managers/decision makers listening to us out in$ :the field, nah, ain't gonna happen.  D   The folks involved with BusinessLink do not follow this newsgroup.  E   I have passed along specific feedback of my own, based on comments iF   here, on my use of BusinessLink, and on various background business "   factors related to BusinessLink.  D   If you would like to register your comments with senior managementF   here at Compaq, there are email addresses listed in the OpenVMS FAQ.  N  --------------------------- pure personal opinion ---------------------------L    Hoff (Stephen) Hoffman   OpenVMS Engineering   hoffman#xdelta.zko.dec.com   ------------------------------  % Date: Fri, 29 Sep 2000 02:07:57 -0400i2 From: rdeininger@mindspring.com (Robert Deininger) Subject: Re: ECO mailing listuL Message-ID: <rdeininger-2909000207580001@user-2ivebhk.dialup.mindspring.com>  ^ In article <st718nr8i5ss4e@news.supernews.com>, wspencer@ap.nospam.org (Warren Spencer) wrote:  7 > rdeininger@mindspring.com (Robert Deininger) wrote infD > <rdeininger-2809001216240001@user-2ive7u1.dialup.mindspring.com>:  > F > >Well, the good news is the VMS patch mailing list is working again.6 > >I've received 2 emails in the last couple of weeks. > >r > -- snip -- >  > Hi Robert, > J > I'm interested in getting on this list.  Could you give me directions?  	 > Thanks!n    ? Ok, consulting my archives, on 15-Mar-2000, I sent an email to .  " Majordomo@data.service.digital.com   The subject waso  ! Mailing list subscription requestt   (which I think doesn't matter)   The body contained    subscribe openvms-patches-digest subscribe security  N So now I understand what's happened.  The security list has recently generatedJ a couple of messages, and the VMS patches list is still deader than rocks.0 I had forgotten that I subscribed to both lists.   --   Robert Deininger rdeininger@mindspring.com    ------------------------------  % Date: Fri, 29 Sep 2000 08:03:59 -0400 / From: Bradford Hamilton <Brad.Hamilton@fmr.com>r Subject: Re: ECO mailing lista' Message-ID: <39D4852F.8720C59E@fmr.com>   C You might want to re-check - the patches list has been coming from:A   openvms@list.support.compaq.comb  & since about the end of February, 2000.  ) I have found success doing the following:e  = Go to http://www.support.compaq.com/patches/mailing-list.html-  F and fill out the form on that page.  You will shortly receive an emailH from  lyris-confirm@list.support.compaq.com, asking for confirmation, in? order to be added to the mailing list.  Follow the instructionsl$ provided, and you should be all set.  G If you have access to DECUSERVE (telnet to eisner.decus.org, and eithereF log in, or register for an account), the OpenVMS patches appear in the NOTES conference hosted there.  
 Brad Hamiltone   Robert Deininger wrote:f <snip>     > @ > Ok, consulting my archives, on 15-Mar-2000, I sent an email to > $ > Majordomo@data.service.digital.com >  > The subject wase > # > Mailing list subscription request  >   > (which I think doesn't matter) >  > The body contained > " > subscribe openvms-patches-digest > subscribe security > P > So now I understand what's happened.  The security list has recently generatedL > a couple of messages, and the VMS patches list is still deader than rocks.2 > I had forgotten that I subscribed to both lists. >  > -- > Robert Deininger > rdeininger@mindspring.comu   ------------------------------  % Date: Fri, 29 Sep 2000 13:19:19 -0400c  From: norm.raphael@jamesbury.com Subject: Re: ECO mailing lists4 Message-ID: <C2256969.005EAC43.00@jklh21.valmet.com>  - Consult the FAQ.  It's not majordomo anymore.y        3 rdeininger@mindspring.com on 09/29/2000 02:07:57 AMs   To:   Info-VAX@mvb.saic.comr cc:  Subject:  Re: ECO mailing list        N In article <st718nr8i5ss4e@news.supernews.com>, wspencer@ap.nospam.org (Warren Spencer) wrote:   7 > rdeininger@mindspring.com (Robert Deininger) wrote ineC > <rdeininger-2809001216240001@user-2ive7u1.dialup.mindspring.com>:i >.F > >Well, the good news is the VMS patch mailing list is working again.6 > >I've received 2 emails in the last couple of weeks. > >e > -- snip -- >e > Hi Robert, >nH > I'm interested in getting on this list.  Could you give me directions?	 > Thanks!h    > Ok, consulting my archives, on 15-Mar-2000, I sent an email to  " Majordomo@data.service.digital.com   The subject was   ! Mailing list subscription request    (which I think doesn't matter)   The body contained    subscribe openvms-patches-digest subscribe security  N So now I understand what's happened.  The security list has recently generatedJ a couple of messages, and the VMS patches list is still deader than rocks.0 I had forgotten that I subscribed to both lists.   -- Robert Deininger rdeininger@mindspring.comd   ------------------------------  % Date: Fri, 29 Sep 2000 10:11:29 +0100o8 From: John Macallister <J.Macallister1@physics.ox.ac.uk>D Subject: RE: FDDI joined interface configurations with Multinet v4.3L Message-ID: <35666012DF4CD411BE940090279FA240111EF4@ppnt41.physics.ox.ac.uk>  H > In the release notes for Multinet v4.3 it mentions "joined interfaces ) > must be connected to the same cable".  e  K The release notes state clearly ( perhaps not nowadays with so much twistedgJ pair and fibre around ) that they're referring to Ethernet cabling which IB understand to be thick/thin Ethernet cables which can have several' connections to the same piece of cable.i  J Although multiple interfaces using the same IP address might be a good wayL of enhancing throughput between two nodes it is something to be avoided on aJ general purpose network as the same IP address appearing in two physicallyI different locations (i.e. different Ethernet MAC addresses ) will trigger # security alarms all over the place!a  K Don't do it in public but you're OK in private between two consenting nodes. :-)c   John  B Name: John B. Macallister  E-mail: j.macallister1@physics.ox.ac.ukH Post: Nuclear and Astrophysics Laboratory, Keble Road, Oxford OX1 3RH,UKA Phone: +44-1865-273388 (direct)  273333 (reception)  273418 (Fax)t   ------------------------------   Date: 29 Sep 2000 07:43:30 GMT* From: helbig@astro.rug.nl (Phillip Helbig)* Subject: FTP client/server bug TCPIP 5.0A?. Message-ID: <8r1h72$dte$1@info.service.rug.nl>  9   DIGITAL TCP/IP Services for OpenVMS Alpha Version V5.0Ac2   on a AlphaStation 255/233 running OpenVMS V7.2-1      ^^m  0 The "n" is still missing.  The ghost of the VAX!  , More important.  First, the full version is        V5.0A-1, OpenVMS V7.2-1 Alpha  H (shouldn't TCPIP SHOW VERSION be this specific as well---I get this fromF hte RFC 822 headers in MAIL?).  I haven't tested all combinations yet,, just client and server on the same machine.   C If one tries to get a file with the same name as one which already  . exists in the target directory, then one gets   > %TCPIP-E-FTP_OUTPROCF, error processing output file <filename>/ -RMS-E-FEX, file already exists, not superseded-  C So far, so good.  First problem: things hang!  Second, I think one e should be prompted for choices:o      create higher version    overwrite existing file    abort*    get but save with a different file name   Anyone else seen this?   ------------------------------  % Date: Fri, 29 Sep 2000 09:16:35 -0700-1 From: "MacMillan, Neil (nmcm)" <nmcm@chevron.com>m Subject: FW: Hmmmmmm@ Message-ID: <55DB1FE17906D411AD9600805F6F06163116D3@chevron.com>  A > Is That a PDP in Your Pocket, Or Are You Just Happy to See Me?   > E > A couple of decades ago, real programmers worked on DEC's legendaryA > PDP-seriesH > minicomputers. Those of you who yearn for the glory days of yesteryearD > can relive them by downloading a PDP11 simulator to your Pocket PC
 > handheld > computer.  > E > Pocketpdp is available at http://bender.ndx.net/pocketpdp, and is a 
 > modified< > version of a desktop PDP simulator created by Bob Supnik.  >    ------------------------------  # Date: Fri, 29 Sep 2000 12:15:39 GMT 2 From: "William Hymen" <t18_pilot@hotmail.spam.com>, Subject: Getting Compaq to advertise OpenVMS7 Message-ID: <LJ%A5.40778$A4.1279584@news1.giganews.com>e  # Getting Compaq to advertise OpenVMS    If you want to promote advertising of OpenVMS, write al! letter on your Company Letterhead  to the people who make the descisions at Compaq.  Keepe( it professional and keep it to one page.  # Include "personal and confidential"  about three lines down from thep addressy 1)Paper is good. 2)email gets deleted.  3)Company letterheads impress.	    - Billm  % The director of OpenVMS Marketing is:u   Compaq Computer Corporationl Mary Ellen Fortier 110 Spit Brook RoadD
 ZKO3-4/W24 Nashua, NH 03062  ! The Vice President of OpenVMS is:    Compaq Computer Corporationt Richard Marcello 110 Spit Brook Roadh
 ZKO3-4/W24 Nashua, NH 03062   The President of Compaq is:.   Compaq Computer Corporatione Michael Capellas 20555 State Highway 249g MS110802 Houston, Texas 77070   ------------------------------   Date: 29 Sep 2000 09:36:04 GMT* From: helbig@astro.rug.nl (Phillip Helbig)# Subject: how long should DIFF take?f. Message-ID: <8r1nq4$fsl$1@info.service.rug.nl>  G For two 3750-block text files, 60,000 lines, how long should DIFF take?   = Would it make sense to have a high-performance DIFF, like thel high-performance SORT/MERGE?   ------------------------------  % Date: Fri, 29 Sep 2000 10:18:03 -0400m# From: Jim Agnew <agnew@hsc.vcu.edu>e' Subject: Re: how long should DIFF take?a+ Message-ID: <39D4A49B.2F4A0E98@hsc.vcu.edu>    hhmm.. depends...  if the files are different, diff uses virtual memory to store the differences before writing to disk, so when) that happens, it really barf'in crawls...2   up your virtual memory for that setup, and it should go faster.  i'm using it on binary files > 200,000 lines, and it goes pretty- quickly if they are the same, i think oh, 10 mins max.  now, if they are different, and the differences are going into vm, i've seen7 HOURS... up the vm and that gets considerably shorter..9   i'd like to see a higher-performace diff, writing the diffs to disk instead of vm.  even if i spec it /out=nla0:, the diffs areej stored ... no, i don't think i've tested this, but it's worth a try on my part!!!!, as well as your part..  l also, if the files are fortran relative organization, fixed length records, performance goes waaayy down..     Jim    Phillip Helbig wrote:h > I > For two 3750-block text files, 60,000 lines, how long should DIFF take?n > ? > Would it make sense to have a high-performance DIFF, like the- > high-performance SORT/MERGE?   ------------------------------  % Date: Fri, 29 Sep 2000 10:09:06 +0100m0 From: andrew harrison <andrew.nospam@uk.sun.com>: Subject: Re: Improving ALPHA (OpenVMS in particular) sales* Message-ID: <39D45C32.C57AF883@uk.sun.com>  = Sun has taken this one step further, the Sun Blade 1000 with e; a 600 Mhz UIII CPU is only going to be available via onlineH
 auctions.   F http://www.sun.com/smi/Press/sunflash/2000-09/sunflash.20000927.9.html  ; It is the lowest cost member of the Sun Blade 1000 product U range.  9 One thing that people are forgetting here is that part of,9 the cost of a system is the cost of sale for that system.c  9 Direct sales channels for low cost low margin systems eate; into the profitability of the products as Compaq know well z from their PC business.i  7 The auction approach has a relatively low cost of sale  8 compared either with the direct or the reseller channel.  1 It allows you to get to customers that may never :4 get contacted by a direct sales force or a reseller.   moi_is_me wrote:D >    This should really be sent to someone at ComPaq (who ?) - but i= >    thought i would start here ... and see if others concur.0 > > >    On an ALMOST daily basis, Sun is auctioning (at eBay) NEW >    Ultra 5's and Ultra 10's. > A >    Both come with a 19" Monitor, Graphics card, 64/128mg (5/10)t? >    memory, CD-ROM, 9GB hard-drives, Video card, and Solaris 7l >    (MARCH-99) Installedv > @ >    Reserve seems to be around $1750.00 + $2650.00 respectively > A >    Perhaps (I am sure) ALPHA sales of OpenVMS/TRU64/Linux wouldn6 >    greatly increase if ComPaq did something similar. > > >    In comparison (as you may know), a linux, 466 alpha, with. >    10GB and 128mg and no monitor is $3814.00 > < >    So the question is ... why doesn't ComPaq, reduce cost,< >    and increase sales by following Sun's example on eBay ? > 	 > -Pierrer > ( > Sent via Deja.com http://www.deja.com/ > Before you buy.s   -- L Andrew Harrison  Enterprise IT Architecto   ------------------------------    Date: 29 Sep 2000 09:25:11 -05009 From: Kilgallen@eisner.decus.org.nospam (Larry Kilgallen)t: Subject: Re: Improving ALPHA (OpenVMS in particular) sales+ Message-ID: <fsEvDrAomVUZ@eisner.decus.org>   ] In article <39D45C32.C57AF883@uk.sun.com>, andrew harrison <andrew.nospam@uk.sun.com> writes:d > ? > Sun has taken this one step further, the Sun Blade 1000 with  = > a 600 Mhz UIII CPU is only going to be available via online2 > auctions.  > H > http://www.sun.com/smi/Press/sunflash/2000-09/sunflash.20000927.9.html > = > It is the lowest cost member of the Sun Blade 1000 product t > range. > ; > One thing that people are forgetting here is that part ofe; > the cost of a system is the cost of sale for that system.a > ; > Direct sales channels for low cost low margin systems eat = > into the profitability of the products as Compaq know well r > from their PC business.e > 9 > The auction approach has a relatively low cost of sale n: > compared either with the direct or the reseller channel. > 3 > It allows you to get to customers that may never  6 > get contacted by a direct sales force or a reseller.  J It also allows you to get customers who would reject all future approaches3 if contacted by a direct sales force or a reseller.   G Personally I have had a _lot_ of trouble dealing with Sun, and anything 3 that automated that interface would be a good idea.    ------------------------------  % Date: Fri, 29 Sep 2000 12:52:46 -0300 ) From: fabio_compaq@ep-bc.petrobras.com.bre Subject: Light Ball L Message-ID: <OF99158879.91A9D7F8-ON83256969.00571917@ep-bc.petrobras.com.br>  H Oh I imagined this ball like that Pokemon ball....with monsters inside = etct ....Or this ball is sent, only to the dinosaurs - with all respect :-)   Fabio C.                  > Tim Llewellyn <tim.llewellyn@bbc.co.uk> em 29/09/2000 11:30:00  ) Favor responder a tim.llewellyn@bbc.co.ukeH                                                                        =     =20hH                                                                        =     =20 H                                                                        =     =20d    @                                                              =20@                                                              =20@                                                              =20@  Para:    Info-VAX@Mvb.Saic.Com                              =20@                                                              =20@  cc:      (bcc: Fabio dos Santos Cardoso/E-P-BC/Contratada)  =20@                                                              =20@                                                              =20@                                                              =20@  Assunto: Re: This list participants profile                 =20@                                                              =20           =l        * fabio_compaq@ep-bc.petrobras.com.br wrote:  H > What is this Light Ball ???? I am lost ....It=B4s a kind of souvenir = ?? >-  B Yes, Fabio, Compaq have given OpenVMS at least a small advertisingA budget, and the OpenVMS balls are part of that. Sue did hint thatdE non-US recipients might see some delays, but some in the UK have them  now.  B Tim, still waiting to see a OpenVMS ball (maybe I should have lied& and ticked that "Decision Maker" box).  --r6 Tim Llewellyn, OpenVMS Infrastructure, Remarcs Project0 MedAS at the BBC, Whiteladies Road, Bristol, UK.A Email tim.llewellyn@bbc.co.uk. Home tim.llewellyn@cableinet.co.ukf  A I speak for myself only and my views in no way represent those of  MedAS or the BBC.g           =m   ------------------------------  # Date: Fri, 29 Sep 2000 14:57:28 GMTh% From: hg/jb <shsrms@bellatlantic.net>oO Subject: Re: Musical Chairmen in Houston... Rosen Steps Down, Capellas Steps Ups0 Message-ID: <39D4AE43.19E72674@bellatlantic.net>   Jeff Killeen wrote:r > G > > In other news of the CEO kind, former DEC VP Bruce Claflin is beingr
 > elevated? > > to the CEO berth at 3COM effective at the end of this year.i >  > Sell your 3COM stock...M Cold but true.   >  > -- >  > Jeff Killeen - www.Killeen.cc-G > ===================================================================== A > "Terry C. Shannon" <terryshannon@mediaone.net> wrote in messagee9 > news:hTUA5.29528$pu4.3076223@typhoon.ne.mediaone.net...rL > > Compaq today announced that President and CEO Michael Capellas is taking > the9I > > additional position of chairman - a title he takes over from Benjamin5 > Rosen,< > > who had headed the firm's board of directors since 1983.L > > The appointment of Capellas as chairman is effective immediately. Rosen, > 67,6N > > is retiring from the Compaq board, but he's being given the honorary title > > of chairman emeritus.o > > G > > Rosen was a founding member of Compaq's board in 1982 and was named-
 > chairmanN > > a year later. He also served as acting CEO for four months last year afterK > > Eckhard Pfeiffer, was ousted by the board. In a statement, a portion of M > > which appears below, Rosen said he has "complete confidence" in Capellas'  > > ability to lead Compaq.u > > N > > "Michael is ideally suited to lead this company as chairman, president andI > > CEO.  He has proven his leadership during one of the most challenging M > > periods in the company's history.  He has articulated a compelling vision M > > for the future of information technology and the leading role that CompaqtL > > will play.  He has forged a management team focused on a common mission,J > > outstanding execution and a clear commitment to sustainable growth andG > > profitability.  And he has demonstrated an unwavering commitment to F > > customers, partners, shareholders and, most important, employees." > >  > >eL > > "With more than a year of solid performance, it seemed appropriate to meJ > > that Michael should have the opportunity to serve as both chairman and > CEO.M > > He has the support of a solid, active and independent Board of Directors,aK > > which shares my personal belief in Michael's ability to lead this greata > > company to new heights." > >  > > G > > In other news of the CEO kind, former DEC VP Bruce Claflin is being 
 > elevatedC > > to the CEO berth at 3COM effective at the end of this year. SKC.
 > subscriberseN > > will be able to read all the lurid details once I get the issue out, which8 > > is unlikely to transpire before the end of CETS2000. > >w > > -- > > Terry C. Shannon > > Consultant and Publisher > > Shannon Knows Compaq$ > > email: terryshannon@mediaone.net( > > Web (info on SKC):  www.acersoft.com > >i > >b > >t   ------------------------------   Date: 29 Sep 2000 15:18:25 GMT2 From: mathog@seqaxp.bio.caltech.edu (David Mathog)O Subject: Re: Musical Chairmen in Houston... Rosen Steps Down, Capellas Steps Up , Message-ID: <8r2bs1$7as@gap.cco.caltech.edu>  t In article <hTUA5.29528$pu4.3076223@typhoon.ne.mediaone.net>, "Terry C. Shannon" <terryshannon@mediaone.net> writes:M >Compaq today announced that President and CEO Michael Capellas is taking the-M >additional position of chairman - a title he takes over from Benjamin Rosen,u9 >who had headed the firm's board of directors since 1983.3  E There have certainly been companies that have done well with the same J person wearing all of the hats but in general it's a crappy idea since theL board of directors is supposed to keep management from wrecking the company E and so protect the stockholders.   When the CEO/President is also theeG Chairman board oversight usually goes completely out the window and the ? stockholders get screwed.  Ie, Digital with Palmer as Chairman.i   Regards,   David Mathog mathog@seqaxp.bio.caltech.edui? Manager, sequence analysis facility, biology division, Caltech     ------------------------------    Date: 29 Sep 2000 12:48:18 -05009 From: Kilgallen@eisner.decus.org.nospam (Larry Kilgallen)nO Subject: Re: Musical Chairmen in Houston... Rosen Steps Down, Capellas Steps Upd+ Message-ID: <bA$zfFmL0LHM@eisner.decus.org>a  a In article <8r2bs1$7as@gap.cco.caltech.edu>, mathog@seqaxp.bio.caltech.edu (David Mathog) writes:uv > In article <hTUA5.29528$pu4.3076223@typhoon.ne.mediaone.net>, "Terry C. Shannon" <terryshannon@mediaone.net> writes:N >>Compaq today announced that President and CEO Michael Capellas is taking theN >>additional position of chairman - a title he takes over from Benjamin Rosen,: >>who had headed the firm's board of directors since 1983. > G > There have certainly been companies that have done well with the sameaL > person wearing all of the hats but in general it's a crappy idea since theN > board of directors is supposed to keep management from wrecking the company G > and so protect the stockholders.   When the CEO/President is also the"I > Chairman board oversight usually goes completely out the window and thesA > stockholders get screwed.  Ie, Digital with Palmer as Chairman.   E My understanding is that Benjamin Rosen is _the_ major stockholder inIC Compaq, so if he is willing to leave his money under the control of / Michael Capellas that is a major show of faith.u   ------------------------------  # Date: Fri, 29 Sep 2000 10:14:02 GMTe= From: system@SendSpamHere.ORG (Brian Schenkenberger, VAXman-)i" Subject: Re: NJ--VAX/VMS Operators0 Message-ID: <009F0D64.ED5D63F6@SendSpamHere.ORG>  d In article <YGSA5.12402$td5.2223060@news1.rdc2.pa.home.com>, "Joseph Gill" <gilljb@home.com> writes:M >My guess its in Plainsboro, NJ which is right out side of Princeton.  Closern3 >to Merill Lynch and Bristol-Myers Squibb than J&J.E    Except that BMS doesn't VMS.  :(  J Yor are correct however!  I was told that the position is in the PrincetonK area.  Send me a private eMail if you know or think you know which company.-   --O VAXman- OpenVMS APE certification number: AAA-0001     VAXman(at)TMESIS(dot)COMi             O city, n., 1. a place where trees are cut down and streets are named after them.e   ------------------------------  % Date: Fri, 29 Sep 2000 07:29:47 -0400n2 From: "Richard B. Gilbert" <DRAGON@compuserve.com>" Subject: Re: NJ--VAX/VMS Operators7 Message-ID: <200009290730_MC2-B51E-8C99@compuserve.com>v  J         FMC (Plainsboro) uses, or used to use, VMS.  Squib (Lawrence Twp.= ) =t  J uses or used to use VMS, used to know a couple of the SYS$MANGLERS there.=    8 Message text written by INTERNET:system@SendSpamHere.ORGJ >In article <YGSA5.12402$td5.2223060@news1.rdc2.pa.home.com>, "Joseph Gil= l" <gilljb@home.com> writes:gG >My guess its in Plainsboro, NJ which is right out side of Princeton. =u   Closer3 >to Merill Lynch and Bristol-Myers Squibb than J&J.r    Except that BMS doesn't VMS.  :(  J Yor are correct however!  I was told that the position is in the Princeto= n B area.  Send me a private eMail if you know or think you know which	 company.<i   ------------------------------   Date: 29 Sep 2000 10:55:15 GMT' From: david20@alpha2.mdx.ac.uk (D.Webb)01 Subject: Re: ODS-5 anybody using - any problems ?m0 Message-ID: <8r1sej$4n9$1@aquila.news.mdx.ac.uk>  p In article <ajc7tsco7lnmvf5mkbc00rpqu6efon365j@4ax.com>, "Larry D Bohan, Jr" <LBohan@dbc.spam_less..com> writes:F >On 28 Sep 2000 10:56:28 -0500, koehler@eisner.decus.org (Bob Koehler) >wrote:r > = >I should go look it up, but is making your system disk ODS-5lB >supported?   'magine so, but I wonder if many folks in the field  >have done so yet. >C  
 According to o     HELP SET VOLUME/STRUCTUREa     SET      VOLUME       /STRUCTURE_LEVEL             /STRUCTURE_LEVEL=n  E        Sets the structure level of the volume. Use the value 5 to set-        the volume to ODS-5.   =        When the /STRUCTURE_LEVEL qualifier is used with othersG        qualifiers, the volume structure level is set prior to the other5"        qualifiers being performed.  D        You cannot use the SET VOLUME command to change a volume fromH        ODS-5 to ODS-2. To reset a volume to ODS-2, refer to instructions<        in the OpenVMS Guide to Extended File Specifications.      *                                       NOTE  A           Compaq does not support creating the system disk as (ora*           changing it to) an ODS-5 volume.  E        Refer to the OpenVMS Guide to Extended File Specifications for         further information.r        6 So NO using ODS-5 is not supported on the system disk.      
 David Webb VMS and Unix team leader CCSS Middlesex University   ------------------------------    Date: 29 Sep 2000 09:36:29 -0500, From: koehler@eisner.decus.org (Bob Koehler)1 Subject: Re: ODS-5 anybody using - any problems ?0+ Message-ID: <20lFUu7UWLH0@eisner.decus.org>x  p In article <ajc7tsco7lnmvf5mkbc00rpqu6efon365j@4ax.com>, "Larry D Bohan, Jr" <LBohan@dbc.spam_less..com> writes: > > > I should go look it up, but is making your system disk ODS-5C > supported?   'magine so, but I wonder if many folks in the field , > have done so yet.   
 No, it's not.t  > > reason I ask,  is, the latest Java  JDK (pcsi) kit installs ' > itself (default) under sys$common.   -  & The kit itself has not been a problem.  F ----------------------------------------------------------------------? Bob Koehler                     | Computer Sciences Corporation = Hubble Space Telescope Payload  | Federal Sector, Civil GrouplE  Flight Software Team           | please remove ".aspm" when replyingh   ------------------------------  % Date: Fri, 29 Sep 2000 11:10:18 +0200u= From: Arne =?iso-8859-1?Q?Vajh=F8j?= <arne.vajhoej@gtech.com>," Subject: Re: opendir/readdir VAXC?) Message-ID: <39D45C7A.6B722694@gtech.com>n   Vito Prosciutto wrote:H > When I try to link something that uses opendir/readdir, I get an errorI > back indicating that these names are unknown to the linker... any ideasoG > on how to get around this? Anyone have the VMS lib calls & example ofo > use?  7 opendir/readdir are part of newer DEC C RTL, but it mayt$ give problems using that with VAX C.   Workarounds:  ( 1)  get a opendir/readdir implementation  
 See f.ex.:  : http://www.hhs.dk/anonymous/pub/vms/collection/readdir.zip; http://www.hhs.dk/anonymous/pub/vms/collection/readdir2.zipk; http://www.hhs.dk/anonymous/pub/vms/collection/readdir3.zip   ? 2)  use something VMS specific like LIB$FIND_FILE or SYS$SEARCHi  
 See f.ex.:  6 http://www.hhs.dk/anonymous/pub/vms/misc/find_file_1.c   Arne   ------------------------------    Date: 29 Sep 2000 09:47:22 -0500, From: koehler@eisner.decus.org (Bob Koehler)" Subject: Re: opendir/readdir VAXC?+ Message-ID: <Vu$9uEqN+yvc@eisner.decus.org>s  ] In article <8r0iqv$u4c$1@nnrp1.deja.com>, Vito Prosciutto <vitoprosciutto@excite.com> writes:aH > When I try to link something that uses opendir/readdir, I get an errorI > back indicating that these names are unknown to the linker... any ideaspG > on how to get around this? Anyone have the VMS lib calls & example oft > use? > H > Here's something that according to help cc runtime should work but hasI > the linking problem described above. An equivalent with VMS calls wouldd- > be handy if I can't resolve the link issue.e >   E You didn't say what version of VMS you're running.  Assuming you havet. opendir/readdir, see the FAQ: SOFT5 on /prefix  F ----------------------------------------------------------------------? Bob Koehler                     | Computer Sciences Corporationu= Hubble Space Telescope Payload  | Federal Sector, Civil GroupoE  Flight Software Team           | please remove ".aspm" when replyingA   ------------------------------   Date: 29 Sep 2000 15:03:10 GMT2 From: hoffman@xdelta.zko.dec.nospam (Hoff Hoffman)" Subject: Re: opendir/readdir VAXC?6 Message-ID: <8r2ave$m90$1@mailint03.im.hou.compaq.com>  ] In article <8r0iqv$u4c$1@nnrp1.deja.com>, Vito Prosciutto <vitoprosciutto@excite.com> writes:p  F   VAX C?  Really?  Wow, a certifiable antique.  The most recent (V3.2)G   version of the VAX C compiler shipped out, well, almost a decade ago.I  D   When posting questions, please remember to include specific error D   messages, compiler commands, OpenVMS platform and version, and the%   relevent product versions.  Thanks!i  =   If you have a current C license, please move to Compaq C.  r  E   All recent Compaq C (and DEC C, as the compiler was formerly known)LI   do support the required functions either directly or (on older OpenVMS -B   versions) via the backport library provided with the C compiler.  G :When I try to link something that uses opendir/readdir, I get an errorr> :back indicating that these names are unknown to the linker...  J   Please see the OpenVMS FAQ for the usual C compiler details, and for theC   recommended compilation qualifiers and associated considerations.B  H   The OpenVMS FAQ is available at various sites including via a link at:"     http://www.openvms.compaq.com/  G :Here's something that according to help cc runtime should work but hash% :the linking problem described above.0  I   Without intending to appear rude, there is no linking problem describedaK   above.  There is a reference to an unspecified linking problem, but there J   is no description of a problem.  When posting questions, please rememberL   to include the details and specifics -- these details help us answer your I   question(s).  (The FAQ has a more specific description of what sorts ofeH   details will usually be required -- see the FAQ introductory section.)  F   I've tried a slightly modified version of your code -- I changed theG   directory over to SYS$LOGIN: and I added an explicit return statementfE   at the end of main for good measure -- and it works just fine with:   	 $ cc/versI) Compaq C V6.2-006 on OpenVMS Alpha V7.2-1u $a  N  --------------------------- pure personal opinion ---------------------------L    Hoff (Stephen) Hoffman   OpenVMS Engineering   hoffman#xdelta.zko.dec.com   ------------------------------  % Date: Fri, 29 Sep 2000 08:43:02 -040015 From: "Sue Skonetski" <susan.skonetski@compaq.nospam>h! Subject: OpenVMS Sessions at CETSe6 Message-ID: <8r22m4$kmd$1@mailint03.im.hou.compaq.com>  = The following are the OpenVMS Sessions at CETS, for your use.   L Please make sure that you attend Rich Marcello's session there is some great new announcments.n  3 The VMS reception is on Wed evening at the Biltmore   K OpenVMS Engineering Panel is Friday morning at 9:30.  I am moderating that, I so if you go to this session, let me know who you are so I can put a face J with a name.  At this point in my mind everyone looks like Patrick Stewart@ or Harrison Ford ( my personal favorites) and Michelle Pfieffer.   Revised: 9/26/00   OpenVMS Sessions Tuesday:  ( OpenVMS Strategic Directions and Roadmap
 Rich Marcello  10:45-12:00  Room 150/151  / Choosing and Implementing an eBusiness Platform  Terry Sherlock
 12:45-2:00
 Room 501BC   OpenVMS Fibre Channel Update Lenny Szubowicz 	 2:15-3:30a Room 405  5 TCP/IP Services for OpenVMS V5 Features and Functions  Yanick Pouffary 	 2:15-3:30  Room 407  4 Compaq BridgeWorks  A Component Enabling Technology Phil Hudson 	 2:15-3:30  Room 503  4 TCP/IP Services for OpenVMS: Setup and Configuration Mark Hollinger	 3:45-5:00  Room 407  2 Using COM and EJB Components to Build an eBusiness Terry Sherlock	 3:45-5:00  Room 505  # OpenVMS and System Management Tools  Barry Kiersteini	 5:15-6:15t Room 411  % Compaq Enterprise Toolkit for OpenVMS= Phil Hudsone	 5:15-6:15o
 Room Room 506   
 Wednesday:  H Going Up Against SUN, IBM and HP with OpenVMS High Performance Solutions John Wisniewskio	 8:00-9:15e	 Room 403Be  E Deploying IONAs ORBIX (CORBA) Middleware for OpenVMS in an eBusinesst EnvironmentM Sylvia Kelley (IONA)	 8:00-9:15  Room 506  G Optimizing Disk I/O (old title of Optimizing I/O on OpenVMS is on grid)R Ian Percival
 9:30-10:45
 Room 501BC  - Oracle 8 on OpenVMS: Tips for Large Databasesb Tony Lekas/Oraclel
 9:30-10:45 Room 405  5 OpenVMS Initiative (DII COE) for Defense Environmentse Vittorio Mezzano
 9:30-10:45 Room 505  I Integrating Data and Applications into an EJB-based eBusiness Environment  using Attunity Connect Angelo Papanastasiou (Attunity):
 9:30-10:45 Room 506  ( Performance Management and OpenVMS Tools
 Bart Lederman  11:00-12:157	 Room 502Al  $ OpenVMS Technical Update and Futures" Steve Hoffman and MaryJane Vazquez	 1:15-2:30P Room 150/151  @ OpenVMS Support for the New Compaq AlphaServer GS Series Systems Clair Grant 	 2:45-4:00 
 Room 404AB  * 294 Deploying Java Applications on OpenVMS Powell Hazzard	 4:15-5:30e Room 407  % Introduction to Oracle Rdb8 on Galaxy= Norm Lastovica, Oracle	 5:45-6:45r Room 405  ' Developing COM Applications for OpenVMSe Gaitan DAntoniU	 5:45-6:454 Room 506  	 Thursday:i  . OpenVMS and Tru64 UNIX Mail & Messaging Update
 Graham Pye
 9:15-10:30 Room 405  - Application Design Utilizing OpenVMS Featuresa
 Steve Hoffmant
 9:15-10:30 Room 407  < Why is My Memory So Slow: Fun with Threads on Alpha and NUMA Webb Scales 
 9:15-10:30
 Room 501BC  D Advanced Server for OpenVMS & PATHWORKS: Overview, Futures & Win2000 IntegrationC
 Brad McCuskert 10:45-12:00i
 Room 404AB   Apache Web Server for OpenVMSt Powell Hazzard Thursday 1:15-2:30	 Room 502AC   IPv6 Technology Update Yanick Pouffaryi> 1:15-2:30 and a repeat on Friday at 1:00-2:15 in Room 408B (!)	 Room 501Ae   OpenVMS Cluster Update Greg Jordant	 1:15-2:30o Room 411   OpenVMS Galaxy Update  Bill Hanleye	 2:45-4:00R Room 411  L Cross-Platform Internet Application Integration with OpenVMS, Tru64 UNIX and NT
 Mick Keyes	 2:45-4:00t
 Room 501BC  L WNT/Windows 2000 File & Print Services for Enterprise Utilizing OpenVMS (new	 abstract)f
 Brad McCuskere	 2:45-4:00  Room 505   Compaq DCE for OpenVMS Wayne Morrison	 4:15-5:30i
 Room 501BC     Friday:u  < Enterprise Backup Strategy for OpenVMS (new title/abstract)\	 Bryan Coxp	 8:00-9:15s
 Room 409AB   High End Performance Tipsm! Dietlinde Kellner/Bank of Austriat	 8:00-9:15l Room 503  = Designing and Debugging Multi-threaded Applications using SMPm Webb Scalesu
 9:30-10:45	 Room 501A    OpenVMS Engineering Panela Susan Skonetski, Moderator
 9:30-10:45	 Room 403A    ------------------------------  # Date: Fri, 29 Sep 2000 13:15:34 GMTe/ From: "John Nixon" <jorlnixon@worldnet.att.net>i% Subject: Re: OpenVMS Sessions at CETS.G Message-ID: <WB0B5.10683$tl2.775310@bgtnsc07-news.ops.worldnet.att.net>c  5 Sue,  you are right!  I look just like Harrison Ford,aK except my hair is a little different (what's left of it), and I am a littleo heavier,I and a little shorter, and have a little double chin, and my complexion istL a little different,  but except for that, and a few other minor differences,;  when Ilook in the mirror, I do see a slight resemblance...   J About the grids,   will there be updated paper copies of sessions on site?F I have made so many changes already that I have thrown my pre-arranged schedule away.  . By the way, I still don't have any balls!  :-(  @ "Sue Skonetski" <susan.skonetski@compaq.nospam> wrote in message0 news:8r22m4$kmd$1@mailint03.im.hou.compaq.com...? > The following are the OpenVMS Sessions at CETS, for your use.M >cH > Please make sure that you attend Rich Marcello's session there is some greats > new announcments.. >>5 > The VMS reception is on Wed evening at the Biltmorea >.G > OpenVMS Engineering Panel is Friday morning at 9:30.  I am moderatinga that,nK > so if you go to this session, let me know who you are so I can put a faceiL > with a name.  At this point in my mind everyone looks like Patrick StewartB > or Harrison Ford ( my personal favorites) and Michelle Pfieffer. >  > Revised: 9/26/00 >e > OpenVMS Sessions
 > Tuesday: >g* > OpenVMS Strategic Directions and Roadmap > Rich Marcello 
 > 10:45-12:00o > Room 150/151 >e1 > Choosing and Implementing an eBusiness Platformo > Terry Sherlock > 12:45-2:00 > Room 501BC >s > OpenVMS Fibre Channel Update > Lenny Szubowiczo > 2:15-3:30t
 > Room 405 >h7 > TCP/IP Services for OpenVMS V5 Features and Functions  > Yanick Pouffaryd > 2:15-3:30a
 > Room 407 >q6 > Compaq BridgeWorks - A Component Enabling Technology
 > Phil Hudsons > 2:15-3:30 
 > Room 503 >-6 > TCP/IP Services for OpenVMS: Setup and Configuration > Mark Hollinger > 3:45-5:00g
 > Room 407 >K4 > Using COM and EJB Components to Build an eBusiness > Terry Sherlock > 3:45-5:00e
 > Room 505 >-% > OpenVMS and System Management Tools  > Barry Kierstein7 > 5:15-6:15l
 > Room 411 >o' > Compaq Enterprise Toolkit for OpenVMSr
 > Phil Hudsont > 5:15-6:159 > Room Room 506y >o > Wednesday: >>J > Going Up Against SUN, IBM and HP with OpenVMS High Performance Solutions > John Wisniewskin > 8:00-9:15h > Room 403Bi >aG > Deploying IONA's ORBIX (CORBA) Middleware for OpenVMS in an eBusinessB
 > Environment  > Sylvia Kelley (IONA) > 8:00-9:15d
 > Room 506 >1I > Optimizing Disk I/O (old title of Optimizing I/O on OpenVMS is on grid)e > Ian Percival > 9:30-10:45 > Room 501BC > / > Oracle 8 on OpenVMS: Tips for Large Databasesd > Tony Lekas/Oraclet > 9:30-10:45
 > Room 405 >n7 > OpenVMS Initiative (DII COE) for Defense Environments  > Vittorio Mezzano > 9:30-10:45
 > Room 505 >oK > Integrating Data and Applications into an EJB-based eBusiness Environments > using Attunity Connect! > Angelo Papanastasiou (Attunity)n > 9:30-10:45
 > Room 506 >s* > Performance Management and OpenVMS Tools > Bart Ledermanl
 > 11:00-12:15u > Room 502Ar >o& > OpenVMS Technical Update and Futures$ > Steve Hoffman and MaryJane Vazquez > 1:15-2:30a > Room 150/151 >0B > OpenVMS Support for the New Compaq AlphaServer GS Series Systems
 > Clair Grantj > 2:45-4:00V > Room 404AB > , > 294 Deploying Java Applications on OpenVMS > Powell Hazzard > 4:15-5:30d
 > Room 407 >.' > Introduction to Oracle Rdb8 on Galaxyh > Norm Lastovica, Oracle > 5:45-6:45n
 > Room 405 > ) > Developing COM Applications for OpenVMSt > Gaitan D'AntoniB > 5:45-6:45S
 > Room 506 >E > Thursday:a >M0 > OpenVMS and Tru64 UNIX Mail & Messaging Update > Graham Pye > 9:15-10:30
 > Room 405 >t/ > Application Design Utilizing OpenVMS Features  > Steve Hoffmani > 9:15-10:30
 > Room 407 >p> > Why is My Memory So Slow: Fun with Threads on Alpha and NUMA
 > Webb Scales  > 9:15-10:30 > Room 501BC >eF > Advanced Server for OpenVMS & PATHWORKS: Overview, Futures & Win2000
 > Integration- > Brad McCusker 
 > 10:45-12:004 > Room 404AB >R > Apache Web Server for OpenVMSe > Powell Hazzard > Thursday 1:15-2:30 > Room 502A- >  > IPv6 Technology Update > Yanick Pouffary @ > 1:15-2:30 and a repeat on Friday at 1:00-2:15 in Room 408B (!) > Room 501A  >  > OpenVMS Cluster Update
 > Greg Jordan  > 1:15-2:30 
 > Room 411 >e > OpenVMS Galaxy Updatei
 > Bill HanleyT > 2:45-4:00p
 > Room 411 > J > Cross-Platform Internet Application Integration with OpenVMS, Tru64 UNIX andj > NT > Mick Keyes > 2:45-4:00t > Room 501BC >NI > WNT/Windows 2000 File & Print Services for Enterprise Utilizing OpenVMSB (new > abstract)  > Brad McCuskere > 2:45-4:00o
 > Room 505 >  > Compaq DCE for OpenVMS > Wayne Morrison > 4:15-5:30i > Room 501BC >= > 	 > Friday:n >e> > Enterprise Backup Strategy for OpenVMS (new title/abstract)\ > Bryan Cox- > 8:00-9:15- > Room 409AB >9 > High End Performance Tips # > Dietlinde Kellner/Bank of Austriau > 8:00-9:15S
 > Room 503 >g? > Designing and Debugging Multi-threaded Applications using SMPu
 > Webb Scalese > 9:30-10:45 > Room 501A6 >n > OpenVMS Engineering Panel, > Susan Skonetski, Moderator > 9:30-10:45 > Room 403A  >5 >8 >5   ------------------------------  % Date: Fri, 29 Sep 2000 11:06:13 -0400 # From: John Vottero <John@MVPSI.com> % Subject: RE: OpenVMS Sessions at CETS D Message-ID: <C15945A9D9EFCF11BA8B08002BBF1CCC0CD829@berry.mvpsi.com>   > -----Original Message-----6 > From: John Nixon [mailto:jorlnixon@worldnet.att.net]* > Sent: Friday, September 29, 2000 9:16 AM > To: Info-VAX@Mvb.Saic.Coml' > Subject: Re: OpenVMS Sessions at CETSv >  > 7 > Sue,  you are right!  I look just like Harrison Ford, @ > except my hair is a little different (what's left of it), and  > I am a little 
 > heavier,> > and a little shorter, and have a little double chin, and my  > complexion is < > a little different,  but except for that, and a few other  > minor differences,= >  when Ilook in the mirror, I do see a slight resemblance...i > ; > About the grids,   will there be updated paper copies of   > sessions on site? H > I have made so many changes already that I have thrown my pre-arranged > schedule away. > 0 > By the way, I still don't have any balls!  :-( >    Harrison Ford does! :)   ------------------------------   Date: 29 Sep 2000 16:00:56 GMT2 From: hoffman@xdelta.zko.dec.nospam (Hoff Hoffman)% Subject: Re: OpenVMS Sessions at CETS-6 Message-ID: <8r2ebo$mnv$1@mailint03.im.hou.compaq.com>  n In article <8r22m4$kmd$1@mailint03.im.hou.compaq.com>, "Sue Skonetski" <susan.skonetski@compaq.nospam> writes:@ :The following are the OpenVMS Sessions at CETS, for your use...  M   Sue has just posted the OpenVMS session list, but there are also a variety :K   of OpenVMS-related clinics and Birds-of-a-Feature (BOF) sessions -- Andy rK   Goldstein and I are jointly presenting a clinic on OpenVMS VAX and Alpha yH   compatibility and related issues Tuesday evening at 6pm, and I have anD   updated OpenVMS hints-and-kinks clinic scheduled Wednesday at 6pm.  <   Both of these clinics are targeted at OpenVMS programmers.  K   (If I have the cycles, I'll schedule a comp.os.vms denizens BOF on-site.)t  N  --------------------------- pure personal opinion ---------------------------L    Hoff (Stephen) Hoffman   OpenVMS Engineering   hoffman#xdelta.zko.dec.com   ------------------------------  % Date: Fri, 29 Sep 2000 00:45:14 +0200u9 From: "Michel Herrscher Consultant" <michel@herrscher.fr>c0 Subject: Re: OVMS & Rdb onto Intranet / Internet% Message-ID: <8r1i8r$34h$1@wanadoo.fr>i  , Thanks to all of you. ( mainly JF Peronne) .G You all have open(vms;-)  a lot of way to start a solution rocksolid...eK Communications of Compaq is not so clear than these newsgroups. It is not a?8 critic but you all are users on the bridge every day....   -- Michel HERRSCHER Consultant  mhc@herrscher.fr Tl : +33 (0)450 870 912 Fax : +33 (0)450 871 741 Gsm : +33 (0)609 044 711    K Michel Herrscher Consultant <michel@herrscher.fr> a crit dans le message :i 8qs4m2$hpr$1@wanadoo.fr...N > Excuse the cross posting, but it allows me a larger source of experiences... >m >oN > Is there any connector available for Rdb to be acceeded from a Web server on > OVMS ? > N > I plan to use Apache on an Alpha DS10. Your Ideas, or remarks please ...What is$ > the administrator program for it ? >p >0L > I am a long time user of Ovms, but newbie on th Web connectior in the Ovms	 > area...d >V) > Thanks for th time you take to help me.s >g >  > -- > Michel HERRSCHER Consultant. > mhc@herrscher.fr > Tl : +33 (0)450 870 912 > Fax : +33 (0)450 871 741 > Gsm : +33 (0)609 044 711 >r >a >r >  >  >e   ------------------------------  # Date: Fri, 29 Sep 2000 08:46:01 GMT % From: A.Greig@virgin.net (Alan Greig)y0 Subject: Re: OVMS & Rdb onto Intranet / Internet2 Message-ID: <39d455ef.1967378791@news.newsguy.com>  B On Thu, 28 Sep 2000 15:28:07 -0000, wspencer@ap.nospam.org (Warren Spencer) wrote:   2 >djesys.nospam@fsi.net.mapson (SysAdmin) wrote in  ><39D2090B.ED7887CF@fsi.net>:a >e >>Jordan Henderson wrote:. >>[snip]< >>> (I don't mean to seem ungracious, but does it seem to me: >>> that we get a lot of queries here that could be easily: >>> be resolved by going to the FAQ, a vendor's site, like# >>> Oracle, or to a search engine?)o >>. >>Many such resources have usability problems. >># >>Case in point: Compaq's web site.. >> >>David J. Dachtera- >-L >I'm with David on this one.  I've used Oracle on VMS for 5 years, and each M >year when I check back at their web site to attempt something useful, I run DH >into broken code, searches that return unusable results, or downed web ; >sites.  In contrast, comp.os.vms has VMS-Like Reliability.r  E A few times when I've found broken links on the Oracle web site which D I need to follow I've logged a service call with Oracle using normalC support channels. They usually sound suprised but accept the reporte0 and fix it. Shouldn't have to do this of course.     --
 Alan Greig   ------------------------------  % Date: Fri, 29 Sep 2000 10:51:49 -0400r, From: "Fletcher Hearns" <hearns@softapp.com> Subject: Re: PCA questions( Message-ID: <8r2alf$co4@news1.gtech.com>  4 Don't know how under DECW but command line would be:  +     PLOT/CPU routine <routine_name> by lineo   Hope this helps    Fletcher  > Larry D Bohan, Jr <LBohan@dbc.spam_less..com> wrote in message2 news:i557ts4mq1v3jgk8aagot9e0jqjriesfp4@4ax.com...C > On 28 Sep 2000 17:40:44 GMT, mathog@seqaxp.bio.caltech.edu (Davide > Mathog) wrote: >aL > >The first time I tried saving the annotated listing as a chart it crashedF > >PCA without creating an output file - Process Quota exceeded. After closingaL > >every other window on the desktop I was finally able to save a "chart" of > >the annotated sequence. > >aK > >The hotspots turned up something I had not expected.  The program does auK > >lot of fgets() and fprintf() and those used up about 10% of the time.  I  hadsK > >expected them to use more like 90% of the time, but the actual breakdown  > >was:u >iE > When I was using the DECW PCA client recently, I grew frustrated w/e9 > frequent accvios deep into the middle of an interestingm% > (read: lengthy)  query drill-drown.o > ; > paritcularly, on pathological source-code, much like youryA > 10K-line 50 routine example).    I wound up using the cmd-line, ( > and character-cell interfaces instead. >I? > But even then, I found my pgflquo needed to be set to extremenC > values.  the system I was using had lotsa of free page file spacep > so it was no big deal. >aE > I'd imagine the same would be true of the DECW client only more so.- >-H > dickering w/ quotas on DECW apps, in my humble (empirical) experience,@ > seems to require dickering w/ the sysgen PQL parameters, since< > most DECW clients are, in effect run as detached processes( > (to my understanding of them, anyway). >S   ------------------------------   Date: 29 Sep 2000 06:26:32 GMT* From: helbig@astro.rug.nl (Phillip Helbig) Subject: Re: PDF under OpenVMS. Message-ID: <8r1cmo$ce7$2@info.service.rug.nl>  , In article <8r014q$se6@gap.cco.caltech.edu>,5 mathog@seqaxp.bio.caltech.edu (David Mathog) writes:    M > This does bring up a different topic.  In Unix one normally does something o	 > like:  t >  >  command & > M > for a situation like this (don't want to wait around, want a bunch to run).eK > On VMS you have to either create the DCL file and SUBMIT it (best route), M > or do a RUN/DETACHED (which is awkward if there are command line parametersnM > involved), or spawn/nowait (which will be killed if the mother process logs1J > out.)  I think that  "PIPE command &" is equivalent to SPAWN/NOWAIT, but > don't know for sure. > 2 > So it would be nice if there was something like: > < > $ batch convert/doc file1.txt/form=blah file2.txt/form=wah >  > andu >  > $ batch/deck=foo > convert/doc (etc.) > convert/doc (etc.) > convert/doc (etc.) > foo    What about SUBMIT SYS$INPUT?  F The examples you mentioned aren't that difficult to write in DCL, are  they (I haven't tried)?n   ------------------------------    Date: 29 Sep 2000 09:03:05 -05009 From: Kilgallen@eisner.decus.org.nospam (Larry Kilgallen)t Subject: Re: PDF under OpenVMS+ Message-ID: <BWCru1TmzDGS@eisner.decus.org>d  i In article <bRTA5.123$53.44986@typhoon.aracnet.com>, "Zane H. Healy" <healyzh@shell1.aracnet.com> writes:n8 > David J. Dachtera <djesys.nospam@earthlink.net> wrote:- >> fabio_compaq@ep-bc.petrobras.com.br wrote:p >>> M >>> Both methods of generating .PDF files : PRINT and CONVERT command will bep >>> welcome.K >>> And in my country PS is not much popular .... people here prefer .PDF !1 > I >> I don't think I've ever seen a printer that accepts PDF instead of PS.O > M > True, however my guess is that he's not talking about printing the result. tI > Rather he's talking about people viewing the file on their computer, iniJ > which case PDF is the preferred format (well, OK, not on VMS, but pretty# > much on any other modern system).5  G That will change.  Adobe is forcing DEQ to stop shipping the Postscript0E Viewer.  The only commercial product left will be the Applied SynergyfI PDF Viewer (so recently announced that it is not even available on CD-ROMh yet).o   ------------------------------  # Date: Fri, 29 Sep 2000 13:53:09 GMT - From: goathunter@goatley.com (Hunter Goatley)o Subject: Re: PDF under OpenVMS1 Message-ID: <39d49e17.173309736@swen.process.com>L  5 On Fri, 29 Sep 2000 00:20:29 GMT, "Larry D Bohan, Jr"A" <LBohan@dbc.spam_less..com> wrote:  E >>BATCH would create a temporary file somewhere based on the input it 8 >>  receives (rather than being told the name of a file)I >>BATCH would automatically do SET DEF to the default directory in effectoH >>  when the BATCH command was issued BEFORE it ran any of the commands.: >>  (That temporary file would begin with $ set def XXXX )  E As Larry said, BAT does these exact things (with a SET NOON thrown ine for good measure).  E >>The command line(s) that BATCH accepts will have already been fully-- >>  processed by DCL before they are stored. i   That isn't done by BAT....  + >>Default for BATCH would be /NOLOG/NOPRINT  >>B BAT's default is /NOPRINT/LOG=SYS$LOGIN:, but that could be easily changed.   >a@ >BAT will do some of this.  the rest could perhaps be hacked in./ >and/or  perhaps w/ the right login.com tweaks.6 >N > ) >  ftp://ftp.wku.edu/vms/fileserv/BAT.ZIP  >N" >$ mcr tooldisk:[tools.exe]bat.exe >_Command: set noonz# >_Command: @sys$manager:sylogin.comC
 >_Command: ^Z0G >Job BATCHTMP_00000160 (queue SYS$BATCH, entry 26) started on SYS$BATCH5 >$   >    Hunter ------9 Hunter Goatley, Process Software, http://www.process.com/a: goathunter@goatley.com      http://www.goatley.com/hunter/   ------------------------------   Date: 29 Sep 2000 14:59:07 GMT2 From: mathog@seqaxp.bio.caltech.edu (David Mathog) Subject: Re: PDF under OpenVMS, Message-ID: <8r2anr$7as@gap.cco.caltech.edu>  [ In article <39D362F6.6AC6EEAB@uiowa.edu>, "Richard L. Dyson" <rick-dyson@uiowa.edu> writes:26 >What about on OpenVMS v7.x, just do the "same" thing? >l >$ pipe command &j >:  , $ pipe dir/out=killme.txt disk:[000000...] & $ logout  = Log back in and you'll see that the job died with the logout.i     David Mathog mathog@seqaxp.bio.caltech.edu ? Manager, sequence analysis facility, biology division, Caltech o   ------------------------------  % Date: Fri, 29 Sep 2000 16:23:19 +0100p- From: Tim Llewellyn <tim.llewellyn@bbc.co.uk>  Subject: Re: PDF under OpenVMS( Message-ID: <39D4B3E7.F2F3D9D@bbc.co.uk>   David Mathog wrote:e  ] > In article <39D362F6.6AC6EEAB@uiowa.edu>, "Richard L. Dyson" <rick-dyson@uiowa.edu> writes:o8 > >What about on OpenVMS v7.x, just do the "same" thing? > >u > >$ pipe command &y > >t > . > $ pipe dir/out=killme.txt disk:[000000...] &
 > $ logout >c? > Log back in and you'll see that the job died with the logout.u >m  @  and while we're slagging off VMS for not being unix, what about that nice command?    :-) Sorry David couldn't resist. --6 Tim Llewellyn, OpenVMS Infrastructure, Remarcs Project0 MedAS at the BBC, Whiteladies Road, Bristol, UK.A Email tim.llewellyn@bbc.co.uk. Home tim.llewellyn@cableinet.co.uk3  A I speak for myself only and my views in no way represent those ofk MedAS or the BBC.I   ------------------------------  % Date: Fri, 29 Sep 2000 12:34:05 -0400i2 From: rdeininger@mindspring.com (Robert Deininger) Subject: Re: PDF under OpenVMSL Message-ID: <rdeininger-2909001234050001@user-2ivea2l.dialup.mindspring.com>  Q In article <8r014q$se6@gap.cco.caltech.edu>, mathog@seqaxp.bio.caltech.edu wrote:e    M > (Similar topic - it would be nice if the current DECK worked in interactive0M > sessions - right now it's batch only - for no good reason that I can see. )3  4 DECK works in command files in interactive sessions.   --   Robert Deininger rdeininger@mindspring.com3   ------------------------------  % Date: Fri, 29 Sep 2000 12:15:45 -0500 / From: Chris Scheers <chris@applied-synergy.com>C Subject: Re: PDF under OpenVMSO Message-ID: <A99DB1041394F706.6C7D4331BAF2951F.2514CF740A6E0ED9@lp.airnews.net>n   Larry Kilgallen wrote: > k > In article <bRTA5.123$53.44986@typhoon.aracnet.com>, "Zane H. Healy" <healyzh@shell1.aracnet.com> writes:r: > > David J. Dachtera <djesys.nospam@earthlink.net> wrote:/ > >> fabio_compaq@ep-bc.petrobras.com.br wrote:  > >>>RO > >>> Both methods of generating .PDF files : PRINT and CONVERT command will bei > >>> welcome.M > >>> And in my country PS is not much popular .... people here prefer .PDF !s > >XK > >> I don't think I've ever seen a printer that accepts PDF instead of PS.l > >IN > > True, however my guess is that he's not talking about printing the result.K > > Rather he's talking about people viewing the file on their computer, in L > > which case PDF is the preferred format (well, OK, not on VMS, but pretty% > > much on any other modern system).t > I > That will change.  Adobe is forcing DEQ to stop shipping the Postscript G > Viewer.  The only commercial product left will be the Applied SynergynK > PDF Viewer (so recently announced that it is not even available on CD-ROMn > yet).1    > We're working on it Larry.  I'll let you know as soon as it is available.  <grin>  G -----------------------------------------------------------------------v$ Chris Scheers, Applied Synergy, Inc.  C Voice: 817-237-3360            Internet: chris@applied-synergy.com e   Fax: 817-237-3074s   ------------------------------  % Date: Fri, 29 Sep 2000 05:00:25 +0100i  From: Paul Sture <paul@sture.ch> Subject: Re: Press Release+ Message-ID: <VA.000000e6.35c9213e@sture.ch>h  > In article <39D1CFC7.90217498@bbc.co.uk>, Tim Llewellyn wrote:/ > From: Tim Llewellyn <tim.llewellyn@bbc.co.uk>t > Newsgroups: comp.os.vms5 > Subject: Re: Press Release' > Date: Wed, 27 Sep 2000 11:45:27 +0100a >  >  >  > Paul Sture wrote:  > B > > In article <39CF7C8B.1A7AACF4@bbc.co.uk>, Tim Llewellyn wrote:3 > > > From: Tim Llewellyn <tim.llewellyn@bbc.co.uk>e > > > Newsgroups: comp.os.vmso  > > > Subject: Re: Press Release+ > > > Date: Mon, 25 Sep 2000 17:25:47 +0100r > > >  > > >  > > >O > > > Alan Greig wrote:W > > >  > > > >t > > > >r2 > > > > How about renaming VMS as "Linux Plus" ;-) > > > >S > > >o > > > Nah, Linux ++H > > > - > > Affinity for Linux? Aaaaarrrrrrggggghhhh!T > > ___  > 4 > It was a joke, Paul, sorry smiley omitted. Anyway, > I meant Linux double-plus.  G Careful. Next they'll be wanting to give Linus the credit for VMS, and 3F the RMS who is nothing at all to do with a decent method of accessing G files will be insisting on providing the source code for free. :-) :-) h :-) :-) :-) :-)N ___n
 Paul Sture Switzerland    ------------------------------  % Date: Fri, 29 Sep 2000 07:39:24 -0400E2 From: "Richard B. Gilbert" <DRAGON@compuserve.com>( Subject: Re: Privileges needed for PHONE7 Message-ID: <200009290739_MC2-B51E-8D06@compuserve.com>3           Try this:  $ SET PROCESS /PRIV=3DCMKRNL $ SET WATCH /CLASS=3DMAJOR FILEe $ PHONEb ...t $ SET WATCH/CLASS=3DNONE FILE   E         See which files are being opened and then check to see if theoG account you are using has the necessary priveleges to open all of those- files.  H         Or, since there is a small probability that the above suggestionB might crash your system, you could simply check the protections of& PHONE.EXE [VMS$COMMON]SYSEXE.DIR, etc.    ' Message text written by "Zane H. Healy"0: >Gotfryd Smolik, VMS lists <gotfryd@stanpol.com.pl> wrote:, >  Check if PHONE.EXE is properly installed:
 > $ INSTAL >> LIST PHONE/FULL  : >  and must see in the privilege list (at least have it in > on-hand system):
 > - SYSNAM
 > - PRMMBX	 > - WORLD  > - OPER
 > - NETMBX  3 In followup to this and the other two, replies.....u  J I'm just trying to PHONE a user on the same node, haven't gotten as far a= s ( trying to PHONE someone on another node.  = Both user accounts in question have the following privileges:  Authorized Privileges: =     NETMBX       TMPMBX  Default Privileges: =      NETMBX       TMPMBXe   $ instal INSTALL> LIST PHONE/FULL  * DISK$ALPHASYS3:<SYS0.SYSCOMMON.SYSEXE>.EXE+    PHONE;1          Open Hdr SharAddr Prv =n  )         Entry access count         =3D 15e,         Current / Maximum shared   =3D 0 / 1(         Global section count       =3D 28         Privileges =3D SYSNAM PRMMBX WORLD OPER NETMBX =  8         Authorized =3D SYSNAM PRMMBX WORLD OPER NETMBX =  +         Resident section count     =3D 0000-  
 INSTALL> =   <p   ------------------------------  # Date: Fri, 29 Sep 2000 08:04:05 GMTu From: Dirk Munk <munk@home.nl>" Subject: Question for Hoff Hoffman' Message-ID: <39D44CF5.211D1559@home.nl>r   Hi Stephen,i  F It was mentioned that the SCS cluster protocol would be supported over Fibrechannel in VMS 7.3. tF But recently we were told in a Compaq storage meeting that these plans were cancelled. ? Can you give us some clarification about Compaq's intentions  ?s  G In our opinion SCS over FC is very important in order to build disastern tolerant clusters. iE SCS over ethernet requires bridged connections between two sites, andy3 that conflicts with the ideas of the network boys. tC So we now need expensive double ethernet connections etc. , and alln6 these problems would disapear when we get SCS over FC.     regards,   Dirk   ------------------------------  / Date: Fri, 29 Sep 2000 08:34:17 +0200 (MET DST)n& From: Rudolf Wingert <win@fom.fgan.de>< Subject: Re: Questions about LN20 and no answer from Genicom6 Message-ID: <200009290630.IAA19179@sinet1.fom.fgan.de>   Hello,  E many thanks to Paul Anderson for his answer. But this brings me to myrD next question: If I could find all about LN20 at the Compaq WEBsite,J why not also the RTEL tool, and why did our shipment not include that one?  G Also I did thought, that to install the LN20 is plug and play. Did any-eE one connect SCSI disk drives? We did without any success. We did con- F nect a RZ28 to the external SCSI port. After every software reboot theE LN20 ends up with the disk ligth on. You could press any key, nothing2F happens. Is this a printersoftware bug? Is there any new firmware out?E The same behavior will be seen sometimes also if you switch the powerh off and on.fE Also do the LN20 not use the disk as swap and spool device, regardlesx! the setup. Does anybody know why?y   TIA and regards Rudolf Wingert   ------------------------------  % Date: Fri, 29 Sep 2000 07:39:19 -0400A2 From: "Richard B. Gilbert" <DRAGON@compuserve.com>< Subject: Re: Questions about LN20 and no answer from Genicom7 Message-ID: <200009290739_MC2-B51E-8D03@compuserve.com>   J         Since Rudolf is German, "Chapter 11" probably doesn't mean much t= o A him or anyone else outside the U.S.  FWIW, it's Chapter 11 of the0J Bankruptcy Act.  Chapter 11 protects the company from its creditors while=  1 it attempts to reorganize and gain new financing.e  + Message text written by "David J. Dachtera"@ >Rudolf Wingert wrote: > =j   > Hello, > =d  F > I have made some question to Genicom about the LN20, but did not get
 > any answer.  [snip]  @ Genicom is in Chapter 11, and probably hasn't a lot of resources available right now. <t   ------------------------------  % Date: Fri, 29 Sep 2000 10:05:20 -0400H0 From: Paul Anderson <paul.r.anderson@compaq.com>< Subject: Re: Questions about LN20 and no answer from GenicomC Message-ID: <paul.r.anderson-DB787D.10052029092000@news.compaq.com>   F In article <200009290630.IAA19179@sinet1.fom.fgan.de>, Rudolf Wingert  <win@fom.fgan.de> wrote:  E > If I could find all about LN20 at the Compaq WEBsite, why not also .? > the RTEL tool, and why did our shipment not include that one?   I I couldn't find any information about RTEL on the Compaq, Genicom or QMS mG sites.  I am not a Unix person and know next to nothing about RTEL, so s2 perhaps I was mistaken.  I shall investigate this.  C > Did anyone connect SCSI disk drives? We did without any success. r2 > We did connect a RZ28 to the external SCSI port.  C I was not aware that the LN20 supported an external disk drive.  I n/ thought the disk drive went inside the printer.r  > > Also do the LN20 not use the disk as swap and spool device, - > regardles the setup. Does anybody know why?   D The LN20 disk drive is not used to queue up jobs, but is used as an ? extension of memory and also as a place to store such items as @H PostScript fonts.  Some of this is controllable via the printer console.   Paul   -- r,    Paul Anderson, OpenVMS Engineering (DCPS),    Compaq Computer Corporation, Littleton MA   ------------------------------  + Date: Fri, 29 Sep 2000 10:50:57 +0000 (UTC).' From: Osmo Kujala <kujala@tukki.jyu.fi>t. Subject: Re: restart an Alpha ETN42-CA machine, Message-ID: <8r1s6h$o20$1@mordred.cc.jyu.fi>  0 Chris Scheers <chris@applied-synergy.com> wrote:  G > You have stumbled into the ARC console.  To run VMS, you need the SRMe
 > console.  F > Go to the "configure" option.  Somewhere down that tree should be anG > option to "set VMS console".  After you select that, you will need tot$ > cycle power for it to take affect.  G I recall that firmware rom in AXPpci33 is too small to contain both ARCe. and SRM. Must load SRM over ARC. Instructions:G http://ftp.digital.com/pub/DEC/Alpha/firmware/ .                    /OKl   ------------------------------  % Date: Fri, 29 Sep 2000 11:41:03 +0530l, From: "krish" <a.krishnamoorthy@digital.com> Subject: RMS Failure.a* Message-ID: <8r1brg$822@usenet.pa.dec.com>  
 Greetings,  L     I came across a peculiar problem. When i tried to create files using RMS. , RMS started giving error like the following.  %    RMS-E-CRE, ACP file create failed.   I    I checked up the disk free blocks, disk quota, priveleges etc... Everyp% things seems to be in good condition.m  '    Does anyone have any inputs on this.i      Thanks in advance. 	    -Krish/   --@ "Courage is the price that life extracts for granting peace with yourself."Amelia Earhart   ------------------------------  % Date: Fri, 29 Sep 2000 07:21:28 -0400h2 From: "Richard B. Gilbert" <DRAGON@compuserve.com> Subject: RMS Failure.-7 Message-ID: <200009290721_MC2-B51E-8C4F@compuserve.com>   J         If you would provide: VAX or Alpha, VMS Version, commands used, a= ndA the full text of ALL error messages we might be able to help you!o  E         The message immediately following "RMS-E-CRE, ACP file create E failed" should explain why the file could not be created.  If you aretJ calling the RMS routines from a program rather than using DCL, then check=  ! the FAB$STV field for the reason.    Message text written by "krish"  >Greetings,L  H     I came across a peculiar problem. When i tried to create files using RMSh. , RMS started giving error like the following.  %    RMS-E-CRE, ACP file create failed.h  J    I checked up the disk free blocks, disk quota, priveleges etc... Every=  % things seems to be in good condition.r  '    Does anyone have any inputs on this.s <t   ------------------------------  % Date: Fri, 29 Sep 2000 06:27:49 -0500h) From: Mike Drabicky <drabicky#dallas.net>v Subject: Re: RMS Failure.o8 Message-ID: <afu8tscpgkh7bn4adjo53cisn3r9go0skb@4ax.com>  + On Fri, 29 Sep 2000 11:41:03 +0530, "krish"'% <a.krishnamoorthy@digital.com> wrote:   M >    I came across a peculiar problem. When i tried to create files using RMS9/ >, RMS started giving error like the following.s > & >   RMS-E-CRE, ACP file create failed. >OJ >   I checked up the disk free blocks, disk quota, priveleges etc... Every& >things seems to be in good condition. >e
 >   -Krish   Kirsh,  B Not enough info to really say but you might check to see if you'veE used up all your file headers or if your INDEXF.SYS is too fragmentedhF to expand. Delete a file you don't need on the disk then try your fileF creation again. If it works, that is likely the problem. If it doesn'tB work, something else ails your disk. Also, you might try your fileB create on another disk just to see if it's disk or system related.  
 Mike Drabicky    ------------------------------  # Date: Fri, 29 Sep 2000 13:24:27 GMTt/ From: "John Nixon" <jorlnixon@worldnet.att.net>i Subject: Re: Safety SPDeG Message-ID: <fK0B5.10688$tl2.776951@bgtnsc07-news.ops.worldnet.att.net>h  G I had promised myself that I wasn't going to participate in this threadw; (which I started) any more, but I have one more suggestion:e< I think Compaq should just pay Glen a couple hundred G's and? buy SAFETY from him.  Since it is already done, maintenance anda: updates and VMS Version testing should be a piece of cake.8 That is how Micro$shaft got where it is today (sort of).  B "David J. Dachtera" <djesys.nospam@earthlink.net> wrote in message' news:39D3E793.9DBB9267@earthlink.net...o   >bH > No one says it cannot be done. OTOH, EVERYone - including Glenn - saysD > it cannot be done SIMPLY (i.e., "in a simple way" or "with minimalI > effort"). Ask Glenn how much time he put into Safety to get it where itr > is.f >oF > Be careful about making distinctions. Another example: "PURGE" means8 > something entirely different to DCL as opposed to NCP. >) > -- > David J. Dachtera  > dba DJE Systems( > http://www.djesys.com/ >o< > Unofficial Affordable OpenVMS Home Page and Message Board:! > http://www.djesys.com/vms/soho/r >sH > This *IS* an OpenVMS-related newsgroup. So, a certain bias in postings > is to be expected. >/B > Feel free to exercise your rights of free speech and expression. >cH > However, attacks against individual posters, or groups of posters, are > strongly discouraged.a   ------------------------------   Date: 29 Sep 2000 15:17:28 GMT2 From: hoffman@xdelta.zko.dec.nospam (Hoff Hoffman)8 Subject: Re: SCS over FC (Re: Question for Hoff Hoffman)6 Message-ID: <8r2bq8$md6$1@mailint03.im.hou.compaq.com>  H In article <39D44CF5.211D1559@home.nl>, Dirk Munk <munk@home.nl> writes:G :It was mentioned that the SCS cluster protocol would be supported overu :Fibrechannel in VMS 7.3.   G   Not that I can immediately recall -- it has been something that folks2+   here in engineering have been looking at.t  G :But recently we were told in a Compaq storage meeting that these plans$D :were cancelled.  Can you give us some clarification about Compaq's  :intentions  ?  L   Until the Fibre Channel (FC) controller device interfaces, um, calm down, H   there are no plans for (host-to-host) SCS over FC.  FC is currently a $   storage-only cluster interconnect.  H :In our opinion SCS over FC is very important in order to build disaster :tolerant clusters.   I   There have been a number of folks that have proposed FC as a (complete)-   CI replacement.-  F   I would certainly like to see this addition, but the folks that are G   working on the various cluster port drivers tell me that the current EF   generation of FC controllers have interfaces that are currently too L   controller-specific and interfaces that are (not unsurprisingly) designed I   and targeted specifically for host-to-storage.  If/when the controller  E   APIs stabilize and host-to-host communications become feasible and tF   supportable (and assuming customer requests for this addition), I'd 9   expect to see the engineering status of this revisited.   N  --------------------------- pure personal opinion ---------------------------L    Hoff (Stephen) Hoffman   OpenVMS Engineering   hoffman#xdelta.zko.dec.com   ------------------------------  % Date: Fri, 29 Sep 2000 10:59:57 +0200e= From: Arne =?iso-8859-1?Q?Vajh=F8j?= <arne.vajhoej@gtech.com>e/ Subject: Re: Shark x Penguin : The OpenVMS Logo-) Message-ID: <39D45A0D.8F4C68D7@gtech.com>0  * fabio_compaq@ep-bc.petrobras.com.br wrote:M > Is that shark really the OpenVMS symbol ? This means: skarks eat penguins ;- > -) > 4 > http://www.montagar.com/dfwlug/openvms_issues.html >  > Is this logo really up ???  / The shark was used by Digital for a short time.m   I like it too.  : And I do not consider VMS and Linux that hard competitors.  G Let Linux compete with NT, NetWare, SCO Unix and low-end Solaris boxes.   C Let VMS compete with high-end Solaris, HP-UX, AIX and OS/400 boxes.i   Arne   ------------------------------  + Date: Fri, 29 Sep 2000 12:55:03 +0000 (UTC) ' From: Osmo Kujala <kujala@tukki.jyu.fi> / Subject: Re: Shark x Penguin : The OpenVMS Logod, Message-ID: <8r23f7$o20$2@mordred.cc.jyu.fi>  * fabio_compaq@ep-bc.petrobras.com.br wrote:L > Nobody understood my analogy between sharks x penguins (OpenVMS x Linux) .	 > . . :-(a  B I'm sure it was understood, but not very much agreed. I'd considerF penguins as friendly animals. Linux is last hope against Windows, whenC Compaq refuse to be aggressive with OpenVMS. Hey, is that why sharkeJ doesn't fit? Compaq doesn't want to be aggressive. I'd like to see OpenVMSK and Linux go together against Micro$oft.                                /OKt                < > "Ebinger . Eric" <EEbinger@drc.com> em 28/09/2000 13:26:19N >                                                                             N >                                                                             N >                                                                                 @ >                                                               @ >                                                               @ >                                                               @ >  Para:    Info-VAX@Mvb.Saic.Com                               @ >                                                               @ >  cc:      (bcc: Fabio dos Santos Cardoso/E-P-BC/Contratada)   @ >                                                               @ >                                                               @ >                                                               @ >  Assunto: RE: Shark x Penguin : The OpenVMS Logo              @ >                                                                              >> -----Original Message-----94 >> From: Chuck Chopp [mailto:ChuckChopp@rtfmcsi.com]7 >> Actually, according to a recent trip to Sea World inoE >> Cleveland (formerly Akron, now a suburb of Cleveland) Ohio, killer @ >> whales are the big predators of penguins.  They even showed a    B > I thought Seaworld was in Aurora, Ohio located between Akron andA > Cleveland and, most importantly, due west of beautiful downtown $ > Hiram, Ohio home of Hiram College.       > Eric Ebinger   ------------------------------   Date: 29 Sep 2000 14:51:54 GMT2 From: mathog@seqaxp.bio.caltech.edu (David Mathog)/ Subject: RE: Shark x Penguin : The OpenVMS Logoa, Message-ID: <8r2aaa$7as@gap.cco.caltech.edu>  x In article <OFEDFFDDDA.E22F7763-ON83256968.006790EB@ep-bc.petrobras.com.br>, fabio_compaq@ep-bc.petrobras.com.br writes:K >Nobody understood my analogy between sharks x penguins (OpenVMS x Linux) .    Sure we did!   Staying within that analogy...  E The penguins have nothing to worry about because they're free to swimrH around and live anywhere they want, multiply, and be happy.  The sharks K pose no threat to them because they are all now confined in big metal cagesRK and the folks who have the keys are not planning on ever letting the sharksr> out. These same folks have a herd of seals they've modified byJ transplanting organs from the sharks into the seals.  They've had a littleI success with these seals, but on most rocks around the world you'll stillhK find the more common varieties of seal happily basking in the sun.  None ofnG this matters to the sharks' owners very much because they spend most ofr6 their time and energy selling little dancing poodles.    Regards,   David Mathog mathog@seqaxp.bio.caltech.edu ? Manager, sequence analysis facility, biology division, Caltech g   ------------------------------  % Date: Fri, 29 Sep 2000 08:33:19 +0200n> From: "Jean-Franois Marchal" <jean-francois.marchal@x9000.fr>( Subject: TCPIP v5.0A corrupted LRU queue. Message-ID: <8r1cvb$5b2$1@reader1.imaginet.fr>  E after installing a new nfs server on a ds10 vms 7.2-1 and tcpip v5.0A  system is under "SPD warranty"  ! we get blue screens and a message'  D %tcpip-e-cfs_error, error: cache_check detected corrupted LRU queue?   no way to recover except REBOOTo  A the nfs server is serving vms workstation with medical images forl- radiotherapy. the problem is pretty critical.   5 seems to be a known problem ... is there a solution ?B   cheers Jean-Franois MarchalN X9000 - Lyon (FR)A   ------------------------------  / Date: Fri, 29 Sep 2000 08:11:33 +0200 (MET DST) & From: Rudolf Wingert <win@fom.fgan.de>+ Subject: Re: This list participants profile 6 Message-ID: <200009290608.IAA19116@sinet1.fom.fgan.de>   Hello,  J age 50 and 21 one year VMS/OpenVMS. Yes I feel lonesome, but I have heard,A that OpenVMS will growth. But Compaq must do something more, e.g.NI promote the OpenVMS education within the universities. Also should Compaq0I sell software vendors (like SUN do!!!), so that software development willf	 continue.g   Rudolf Wingert   ------------------------------  % Date: Fri, 29 Sep 2000 09:32:56 +0200r& From: Bob Marcan <bob.marcan@aster.si>+ Subject: Re: This list participants profile ( Message-ID: <39D445A8.7E31D1A4@aster.si>  ( Age 50, VAX 11/780 VMS 1.5, still alive. -- iA -----------------------------------------------------------------i@  Bob Marcan                         email:   bob.marcan@aster.si?  Aster                                tel:    +386 (1) 5894-329s?  Nade Ovcakove 1                      fax:    +386 (1) 5894-201w@  1000 Ljubljana, Slovenia                    http://www.aster.siA -----------------------------------------------------------------,   ------------------------------  % Date: Thu, 28 Sep 2000 19:38:13 -06001% From: Dan O'Reilly <dano@process.com>t+ Subject: RE: This list participants profileoD Message-ID: <5.0.0.25.2.20000928193708.0371ff28@pop.clsp.uswest.net>  6 At 02:52 PM 9/28/2000, Koska, John C. (LNG-MBC) wrote: >42 years old. >.4 >VMS user since 1977 or so, when I was in college at2 >Rochester Institute of Technology. (They replaced, >their Xerox Sigma 9 with some sort of VAX.)  G Hey, you're my kinda guy!  I used to work on a Xerox Sigma 7 at MontanagJ State University until it got replaced by an 11/780 in 1978...not too many! folk remember the Xerox Sigmas...e   ------------------------------  % Date: Fri, 29 Sep 2000 09:03:03 +0100 + From: "Tim Jackson" <tim.jackson@amsjv.com>n+ Subject: Re: This list participants profiles& Message-ID: <39d44be6$1@pull.gecm.com>  6 <fabio_compaq@ep-bc.petrobras.com.br> wrote in messageF news:OF8AF50520.400155E2-ON83256967.0066154A@ep-bc.petrobras.com.br...H I am reading this list just for three weeks but I have a curiosity . . .  B Whats the average age of all people here ? I am asking it because everybody looks likeE experiencied > 30 ... I am 28 and work with VMS since 1989 ( I feel as veteran)... and inE my job I am alone. Therere 8 guys to manager our Unix servers (abovec 30s) , 8 guys to manageF the NT servers (20-24)  and only me to manage  the OpenVMS servers....  ! Its just a market curiosity ....   
 Fabio Cardoso0 Analista de Suportea  * Age 42, working with (Open)VMS since 1984.D ------------------ Purely Personal Opinion -------------------------D Tim Jackson                                    tim.jackson@amsjv.com Air Systems Group  Alenia Marconi Systems Ltd.    ------------------------------  % Date: Fri, 29 Sep 2000 19:41:45 +0010o% From: paddy.o'brien@zzz.tg.nsw.gov.au + Subject: Re: This list participants profile 5 Message-ID: <01JUR9F5UPGI004SZD@tgmail.tg.nsw.gov.au>0   O.K.,2  M I'm 37 Arne's age (IIRC) or %x37 Larry K's age.  Hmm, I'm definitely hex not s decimal.  O The impression that I get is that the average age here is in the 40's (decimal wA :-). I.e., some of the old-timers are becoming even older-timers..  O One respondee suggested that many of us are "part-time" managers.  I agree and a( that is why Info-VAX is so useful to me.  P I am ostensibly employed as a programmer/maintainer/enhancer of programs in our . electrical engineering suite.  Mainly Fortran.  P I worked as such in UK for about 20 years on IBM machines, then came to .au.  I : worked for 2 years on CDC on a thermodynamics application.  K My first move to VMS was in 1985 on an optics project.  Then I moved to my aL current org in 1987 using VMS again as a programmer, and back to electrical  engineering programs.I  N In early 1990's, my section took over control of our development platform.  A Q VAXstation 4000-60 and 3 VLCs.  Then added an Alpha DEC3000 which I put into the  J same cluster (dual platform user support).  Now an ES40 as our production ; machine, where the current 3 CPU's are running almost 100%.@  Q During the 1990's I became the administrator, learning as necessary.  Most of my  N time is still programming.  It is often easier to ask/read here than to RTFM, Q especially now that Bookreader is almost dead.  As a novice administrator, it is 5J not always easy to know which fine manual to read; my field yes, compiler & manuals, admin somewhat more esoteric.  N Earlier this year, I was on 4 month's leave.  I clued up one of our engineers L how to maintain the backups and gave him READALL so that he could check the Q logs.  He also had my son's email/phone to contact me if there were problems, so b) that I could log in.  Nothing went wrong.   Q I was away last week, and again no glitches.  From December, I shall be away for tP 6 months and again I expect no problems.  The only queries I expect are not VMS , system, but problems with our program suite.  J No more than 2-5% of a week is taken up with maintaining our VMS systems, N usually only adding new users, and just generally checking logs.  My ES40 has O been up for 103 days, when I added the third CPU.  It will be down in a week's e@ time to add a fourth CPU and a second disk cage.  After that ...   Regards, Paddy   Paddy O'Brien, Transmission Development,l
 TransGrid, PO Box A1000, Sydney South,  NSW 2000, Australia    Tel:   +61 2 9284-3063 Fax:   +61 2 9284-3050& Email: paddy.o'brien@zzz.tg.nsw.gov.au  M Either "\'" or "\s" (to escape the apostrophe) seems to work for most people, ; but that little whizz-bang apostrophe gives me little spam.f   ------------------------------  % Date: Fri, 29 Sep 2000 10:52:17 +0200-= From: Arne =?iso-8859-1?Q?Vajh=F8j?= <arne.vajhoej@gtech.com>r+ Subject: Re: This list participants profileo) Message-ID: <39D45840.B820EED1@gtech.com>0   Arne Vajhj wrote:	 > age 35.e >  > 13 years with VMS.   And came from CDC Cyber NOS !e   Arne   ------------------------------  % Date: Fri, 29 Sep 2000 10:50:21 +0200t= From: Arne =?iso-8859-1?Q?Vajh=F8j?= <arne.vajhoej@gtech.com>E+ Subject: Re: This list participants profilen) Message-ID: <39D457CD.E18560BC@gtech.com>    Bill Gunshannon wrote:H > You know, outside your closed little world these remarks just make youI > look silly.  I administer Unix, Windows and yes, even VMS systems.  The I > Unix systems are evry bit as stable as the VMS box.  Most of my time is I > spent babysitting the Windows boxes.  I have Unix boxes here (includingeG > our department web, news and authentication servers) that I never loggE > into and that only get rebooted once a year when we have our annualnH > major power shutdown.  While VMS has advantages and even features thatG > Unix doesn't have, Unix is not the buggy, non-functional OS some heres! > would like everyone to believe.   ? Anybody heard a story about Unix systems with uptime >5 years ?    Arne   ------------------------------  % Date: Fri, 29 Sep 2000 10:50:39 +0000 $ From: Steve.Spires@yellowpages.co.uk+ Subject: Re: This list participants profiles/ Message-ID: <00256969.003B500A.00@quegw01.btyp>   L Contact:   Tel: 3063  -  IS - Infrastructure, 1st Floor, Bridge Street Plaza    8 I thought he was 40 (if %X7BC is 1980 the %X28 is 40)...   Steve Spires        H karcher@thuria.waisman.wisc.edu (Carl Karcher) on 28/09/2000 09:33:41 PM    To:        Info-VAX@Mvb.Saic.Com+ cc:         (bcc: Steve Spires/YellowPages)hM From:      karcher@thuria.waisman.wisc.edu (Carl Karcher), 28 September 2000,i            9:33 p.m.  " Re: This list participants profile        & "Brian Schenkenberger, VAXman-" wrote:A > Well, I too am 28 and I've been working with VMS since 7BC.  ;)s  D If %x7bc = 1980 that means you were a "pre-pube" of 8. Talk about anK early start! I suppose you're one of those who graduated from an Ivy leagueo college at age 16 too.   ------------------------------  # Date: Fri, 29 Sep 2000 10:04:59 GMT.= From: system@SendSpamHere.ORG (Brian Schenkenberger, VAXman-) + Subject: Re: This list participants profilet0 Message-ID: <009F0D63.A961E315@SendSpamHere.ORG>  U In article <39D3B380.3C0830A3@iee.org>, "antonio.carlini" <arcarlini@iee.org> writes:t >  >e' >"Brian Schenkenberger, VAXman-" wrote:MB >> Well, I too am 28 and I've been working with VMS since 7BC.  ;) >o- >I like to learn something knew every day ...h4 >thank you for teaching me today that the calculator" >accessory on W98 really sucks :-)  + Let me guess, no hex to decimal conversion.O   --O VAXman- OpenVMS APE certification number: AAA-0001     VAXman(at)TMESIS(dot)COMy            nO city, n., 1. a place where trees are cut down and streets are named after them.    ------------------------------  % Date: Fri, 29 Sep 2000 10:45:52 +0000"$ From: Steve.Spires@yellowpages.co.uk+ Subject: Re: This list participants profile / Message-ID: <00256969.003AE05B.00@quegw01.btyp>e  L Contact:   Tel: 3063  -  IS - Infrastructure, 1st Floor, Bridge Street Plaza    N Age 40 (last week! - and already TWO grandkids) and with VMS since 1988 (SouthM African 11/785 clone with VMS 3.something) and looking forward to the next 12r years... ;^D  M BTW, the other two guys on the VMS team at my present organisation are 45 andr 57.o   Steve Spires VMS System Manager BT/Yellow Pages-   ------------------------------  # Date: Fri, 29 Sep 2000 10:10:03 GMTl= From: system@SendSpamHere.ORG (Brian Schenkenberger, VAXman-) + Subject: Re: This list participants profileq0 Message-ID: <009F0D64.5F0DB3D4@SendSpamHere.ORG>  m In article <28SEP00.21334153@thuria.waisman.wisc.edu>, karcher@thuria.waisman.wisc.edu (Carl Karcher) writes:o' >"Brian Schenkenberger, VAXman-" wrote:VB >> Well, I too am 28 and I've been working with VMS since 7BC.  ;) >gE >If %x7bc = 1980 that means you were a "pre-pube" of 8. Talk about annL >early start! I suppose you're one of those who graduated from an Ivy league >college at age 16 too.c   SET RADIX HEXADECIMAL'   --O VAXman- OpenVMS APE certification number: AAA-0001     VAXman(at)TMESIS(dot)COMc             O city, n., 1. a place where trees are cut down and streets are named after them.-   ------------------------------  # Date: Fri, 29 Sep 2000 10:17:20 GMTn= From: system@SendSpamHere.ORG (Brian Schenkenberger, VAXman-)a+ Subject: Re: This list participants profileF0 Message-ID: <009F0D65.632BD340@SendSpamHere.ORG>  Z In article <39D3DE9C.F28C875F@tsoft-inc.com>, David A Froble <davef@tsoft-inc.com> writes: >"antonio.carlini" wrote:t >> c) >> "Brian Schenkenberger, VAXman-" wrote:vD >> > Well, I too am 28 and I've been working with VMS since 7BC.  ;) >> t/ >> I like to learn something knew every day ...g6 >> thank you for teaching me today that the calculator$ >> accessory on W98 really sucks :-) >s- >Well, long before that, base16 really sucks.r >l >7 * 256 + 11 * 16 + 12r >e0 >Which part of that did the calculator choke on?  + Perhaps, it was the 2*16(10)+8 computation.-   --O VAXman- OpenVMS APE certification number: AAA-0001     VAXman(at)TMESIS(dot)COMh             O city, n., 1. a place where trees are cut down and streets are named after them.-   ------------------------------  % Date: Fri, 29 Sep 2000 11:46:36 +0100F( From: "R.A.Omond" <Roy.Omond@compaq.com>+ Subject: Re: This list participants profileg* Message-ID: <8r1rua$g60@usenet.pa.dec.com>  ; Bob Marcan wrote in message <39D445A8.7E31D1A4@aster.si>...t) >Age 50, VAX 11/780 VMS 1.5, still alive.p  = Still alive ?  You or the VAX 11/780 running VMS 1.5 ??   :-)s  	 Roy Omond  Blue Bubble Ltd., (certainly not speaking on behalf of Compaq)   ------------------------------  % Date: Fri, 29 Sep 2000 07:29:15 -0400h) From: Bob Ricci <maxx0623@concentric.net>i+ Subject: Re: This list participants profileb3 Message-ID: <002101c02a08$7ff4aba0$585b5cc0@Subway>X  - 59 - been system administrator on vms 8 years-8 have 2 alphas with a new es40 being installed this month also have 5 vax - # Compaq SAN - 21 -36gb drives ma8000:6 2 Unix boxes - 1 solaris box all of which I administer also have 20 NT serversu! before VAX- totaly IBM since 1962s  	 Bob Ricci: Systems Managert SUBWAY (franchises)n ricci_r@subway.com   ------------------------------  % Date: Fri, 29 Sep 2000 08:05:18 -0400m( From: Bill Gunshannon <bill@cs.uofs.edu>+ Subject: Re: This list participants profileoL Message-ID: <Pine.LNX.4.10.10009290802510.25999-100000@triangle.cs.uofs.edu>  6 On Fri, 29 Sep 2000, Arne [iso-8859-1] Vajh=F8j wrote:   >=20A > Anybody heard a story about Unix systems with uptime >5 years ?  >=20  F I don't know any unix Sysadmin who thinks that's significant enough toE keep track of. I have no doubt that if the power here didn't get shut C off campus-wide every Good Friday all of mine would beat that mark.    bill   --=20 J Bill Gunshannon          |  de-moc-ra-cy (di mok' ra see) n.  Three wolvesD bill@cs.scranton.edu     |  and a sheep voting on what's for dinner. University of Scranton   |C Scranton, Pennsylvania   |         #include <std.disclaimer.h>  =20    ------------------------------    Date: 29 Sep 2000 09:32:44 -0500, From: koehler@eisner.decus.org (Bob Koehler)+ Subject: RE: This list participants profile + Message-ID: <nReXJj$GgbKP@eisner.decus.org>   l In article <5.0.0.25.2.20000928193708.0371ff28@pop.clsp.uswest.net>, Dan O'Reilly <dano@process.com> writes: > I > Hey, you're my kinda guy!  I used to work on a Xerox Sigma 7 at Montana L > State University until it got replaced by an 11/780 in 1978...not too many# > folk remember the Xerox Sigmas...   F Our Sigma 7 sat next to our 11/780 at school, made me learn how to useE an 027 card punch and drum card (there were 026's stuffed down in theCK basement).  Just a couple of years ago NASA GSFC got rid of some Sigma 5's iK it was using when they shut down IUE, they were next door to my VAX 4000's.>  F Our Sigma 7 had a 7-track tape drive that could run down to 220 BPI to read data gathered on a PDP-7.  F ----------------------------------------------------------------------? Bob Koehler                     | Computer Sciences Corporation = Hubble Space Telescope Payload  | Federal Sector, Civil GroupSE  Flight Software Team           | please remove ".aspm" when replying)   ------------------------------  % Date: Fri, 29 Sep 2000 15:17:11 +0100@- From: Tim Llewellyn <tim.llewellyn@bbc.co.uk>E+ Subject: Re: This list participants profileo) Message-ID: <39D4A467.E19D1832@bbc.co.uk>w   David A Froble wrote:d   > "antonio.carlini" wrote: > >n* > > "Brian Schenkenberger, VAXman-" wrote:E > > > Well, I too am 28 and I've been working with VMS since 7BC.  ;)t > >u0 > > I like to learn something knew every day ...7 > > thank you for teaching me today that the calculator % > > accessory on W98 really sucks :-)  >f. > Well, long before that, base16 really sucks. >e > 7 * 256 + 11 * 16 + 12 >r1 > Which part of that did the calculator choke on?h  @  Come on guys, you have a hex to decimal converter in DCL. Thats  how I worked out Brian's age :-)  
 $ zzz=%x28
 $ sh symb zzza0   ZZZ = 40   Hex = 00000028  Octal = 00000000050  6 Just why does one need to get Windows involved at all?   --6 Tim Llewellyn, OpenVMS Infrastructure, Remarcs Project0 MedAS at the BBC, Whiteladies Road, Bristol, UK.A Email tim.llewellyn@bbc.co.uk. Home tim.llewellyn@cableinet.co.ukg  A I speak for myself only and my views in no way represent those of, MedAS or the BBC.C   ------------------------------  % Date: Fri, 29 Sep 2000 15:28:25 +01001( From: "R.A.Omond" <Roy.Omond@compaq.com>+ Subject: Re: This list participants profileP* Message-ID: <8r28uk$n3j@usenet.pa.dec.com>    Bob Koehler wrote in message ...I >In article <5.0.0.25.2.20000928193708.0371ff28@pop.clsp.uswest.net>, Danm# O'Reilly <dano@process.com> writes:u >c > [...snip ...]g > G >Our Sigma 7 had a 7-track tape drive that could run down to 220 BPI to  >read data gathered on a PDP-7.      (minor nitpick)e  H 220 bpi ?  Surely you mean 200 ?  I remember 7-track tapes (dual densityI 200 and 556 (566 ?) bpi).  Who remembers the oily stuff with the magneticB5 filings used for *visually* reading such tapes ?  :-)   	 Roy Omond- Blue Bubble Ltd., (certainly not speaking on behalf of Compaq)   ------------------------------  + Date: Fri, 29 Sep 2000 09:17:17 -0500 (EST)t1 From: "Robert J. Slover" <slover@Rose-Hulman.Edu>t+ Subject: RE: This list participants profile W Message-ID: <Pine.LNX.3.96.1000929091557.28238B-100000@rocinante.admin.rose-hulman.edu>o  : It was before my time, but our former director used to get6 ribbed because our computer systems were Xerox and our copiers were IBM. ;-)U  ( On Thu, 28 Sep 2000, Dan O'Reilly wrote:  8 > At 02:52 PM 9/28/2000, Koska, John C. (LNG-MBC) wrote: > >42 years old. > >e6 > >VMS user since 1977 or so, when I was in college at4 > >Rochester Institute of Technology. (They replaced. > >their Xerox Sigma 9 with some sort of VAX.) > I > Hey, you're my kinda guy!  I used to work on a Xerox Sigma 7 at Montana-L > State University until it got replaced by an 11/780 in 1978...not too many# > folk remember the Xerox Sigmas...  >  >  >    ------------------------------  % Date: Fri, 29 Sep 2000 15:30:00 +0100a- From: Tim Llewellyn <tim.llewellyn@bbc.co.uk>e+ Subject: Re: This list participants profile-) Message-ID: <39D4A768.31228E80@bbc.co.uk>-  * fabio_compaq@ep-bc.petrobras.com.br wrote:  G > What is this Light Ball ???? I am lost ....Its a kind of souvenir ??o >o  B Yes, Fabio, Compaq have given OpenVMS at least a small advertisingA budget, and the OpenVMS balls are part of that. Sue did hint that2E non-US recipients might see some delays, but some in the UK have themS now.  B Tim, still waiting to see a OpenVMS ball (maybe I should have lied& and ticked that "Decision Maker" box).  --96 Tim Llewellyn, OpenVMS Infrastructure, Remarcs Project0 MedAS at the BBC, Whiteladies Road, Bristol, UK.A Email tim.llewellyn@bbc.co.uk. Home tim.llewellyn@cableinet.co.uka  A I speak for myself only and my views in no way represent those of- MedAS or the BBC.    ------------------------------  % Date: Fri, 29 Sep 2000 15:31:48 +0100j- From: Tim Llewellyn <tim.llewellyn@bbc.co.uk>g+ Subject: Re: This list participants profilem) Message-ID: <39D4A7D3.A06B37E5@bbc.co.uk>e  * fabio_compaq@ep-bc.petrobras.com.br wrote:  A > The truth is : companies are not really interested  in low TCO,k > high-availability, etc .... I > the companies need to show they have a mess of computers with "advancedb > technologies",J >  hundreds of professionals, etc .... the job market must grow to Unix/NT > ... I know becauseM >  I am a rare OpenVMS Manager in my country.  Even I worked with Solaris andt > NT I prefer toL >  work with OVMS. The problem nowadays is: the  company I am working for is > not makingJ > much investmenst in OpenVMS ... so in  few years Ill need to leave this > job and go abroad orJ > where OVMS survives....because every time I log in an Unix server I feel > like entering a " > "not finished operating system". >  > Fabio Cardoso  > Analista de Suportes >d  N Fabio, now I am depressed, I was starting to wonder if there was a healthy VMS  contracting market in Brazil :-(    --j6 Tim Llewellyn, OpenVMS Infrastructure, Remarcs Project0 MedAS at the BBC, Whiteladies Road, Bristol, UK.A Email tim.llewellyn@bbc.co.uk. Home tim.llewellyn@cableinet.co.uki  A I speak for myself only and my views in no way represent those ofr MedAS or the BBC.t   ------------------------------  % Date: Fri, 29 Sep 2000 11:10:56 -0400e0 From: Jim Jennis <jjennis@discovery.fuentez.com>+ Subject: Re: This list participants profile D Message-ID: <3.0.5.32.20000929111056.00976010@discovery.fuentez.com>  ' At 03:30 PM 9/29/2000 +0100, you wrote:aC >Yes, Fabio, Compaq have given OpenVMS at least a small advertisingdB >budget, and the OpenVMS balls are part of that. Sue did hint thatF >non-US recipients might see some delays, but some in the UK have them >now.v >oC >Tim, still waiting to see a OpenVMS ball (maybe I should have lied ' >and ticked that "Decision Maker" box).e   Tim,  I You are not alone....I actually DO sign the checks to Compaq and (so far)kE seen only "bills" and not "balls" from Compaq. (They are VERY GOOD at3 sending those!)d   :)   Regards,   Jim 8 --------------------------------------------------------7 FSC - Building Better Information Technology Solutions-e7       from the Production Floor to the Customer's Door. 8 --------------------------------------------------------5 Jim Jennis, Technical Director for Commercial Systemst Fuentez Systems Concepts, Inc. 1 Discovery Place, Suite 2 Martinsburg, WV. 25401 USAc  # Phone: +001 (304) 263-0163 ext. 235s Fax:   +001 (304) 263-0702% Email: jjennis@discovery.fuentez.com l        jhjennis@shentel.neti& WEB: http://www.discovery.fuentez.com/   ------------------------------   Date: 29 Sep 2000 15:10:15 GMT0 From: "Dale A. Dellutri" <ddellutr@enteract.com>+ Subject: Re: This list participants profile - Message-ID: <8r2bcn$1b3k$1@news.enteract.com>t  K On Fri, 29 Sep 2000 15:28:25 +0100, R.A.Omond <Roy.Omond@compaq.com> wrote:i  " > Bob Koehler wrote in message ...J >>In article <5.0.0.25.2.20000928193708.0371ff28@pop.clsp.uswest.net>, Dan% > O'Reilly <dano@process.com> writes:  >> [...snip ...]H >>Our Sigma 7 had a 7-track tape drive that could run down to 220 BPI to  >>read data gathered on a PDP-7. > (minor nitpick)lJ > 220 bpi ?  Surely you mean 200 ?  I remember 7-track tapes (dual densityK > 200 and 556 (566 ?) bpi).  Who remembers the oily stuff with the magnetici7 > filings used for *visually* reading such tapes ?  :-)e  1 I saw an IBM FE use this stuff once.  Remarkable!0   -- n& Dale Dellutri -- ddellutr@enteract.com   ------------------------------  % Date: Fri, 29 Sep 2000 15:58:06 +0100.- From: Tim Llewellyn <tim.llewellyn@bbc.co.uk>o+ Subject: Re: This list participants profile ) Message-ID: <39D4ADFD.EB49B9EA@bbc.co.uk>l   "John E. Malmberg" wrote:-  9 > In article <39D36312.F5B67F8B@bbc.co.uk>, Tim Llewellynr# > <tim.llewellyn#bbc.co.uk> writes:r > >j? > > 38, VMS since 1983, only 6 months without VMS in that time,e: > > , might have better career prospects if I'd stuck with7 > > NT and unix, then again I might be mad by now also.  > = > Of course the reasoning behind many places deploying NT and ; > UNIX is because of the quantity of people available, theya > can pay lower wages for them.E >u  ; Hmmm, Unix and NT admin contract rates look higher than VMSC7 ones to me on the Open Market, at least here in the UK.n  / It just might be the static induced stress :-(.j    --e6 Tim Llewellyn, OpenVMS Infrastructure, Remarcs Project0 MedAS at the BBC, Whiteladies Road, Bristol, UK.A Email tim.llewellyn@bbc.co.uk. Home tim.llewellyn@cableinet.co.ukt  A I speak for myself only and my views in no way represent those ofa MedAS or the BBC.d   ------------------------------    Date: 29 Sep 2000 12:24:41 -05002 From: malmberg@eisner.decus.org (John E. Malmberg)+ Subject: Re: This list participants profilen+ Message-ID: <Tuj4CIs20rt$@eisner.decus.org>i  ) In article <39D4ADFD.EB49B9EA@bbc.co.uk>,r/ Tim Llewellyn <tim.llewellyn#bbc.co.uk> writes:  >    > "John E. Malmberg" wrote:t >>> >> Of course the reasoning behind many places deploying NT and< >> UNIX is because of the quantity of people available, they  >> can pay lower wages for them. >> > = > Hmmm, Unix and NT admin contract rates look higher than VMSp9 > ones to me on the Open Market, at least here in the UK.o > 1 > It just might be the static induced stress :-(.B  4 I do not know how they advertise over there, but the4 advertisements I see show a theoretical maximum rate2 for the "perfect" candidate.  Not necessarily what they intend to pay everyone.  ; I also did not imply that their expectations are realistic.a   -Johnr wb8tyw@qsl.network   ------------------------------  % Date: Fri, 29 Sep 2000 09:26:20 -0600i% From: Dan O'Reilly <dano@process.com>e+ Subject: Re: This list participants profileSD Message-ID: <5.0.0.25.2.20000929092604.0379d178@pop.clsp.uswest.net>  ' At 08:28 AM 9/29/2000, R.A.Omond wrote:y  ! >Bob Koehler wrote in message ... K > >In article <5.0.0.25.2.20000928193708.0371ff28@pop.clsp.uswest.net>, Dana$ >O'Reilly <dano@process.com> writes: > >y > > [...snip ...]R > >iI > >Our Sigma 7 had a 7-track tape drive that could run down to 220 BPI to ! > >read data gathered on a PDP-7.S >H >. >(minor nitpick) >9I >220 bpi ?  Surely you mean 200 ?  I remember 7-track tapes (dual density J >200 and 556 (566 ?) bpi).  Who remembers the oily stuff with the magnetic6 >filings used for *visually* reading such tapes ?  :-)   Ah, yes - "Magnaflux"...   ------------------------------  % Date: Fri, 29 Sep 2000 14:32:42 +0200 = From: Arne =?iso-8859-1?Q?Vajh=F8j?= <arne.vajhoej@gtech.com>i+ Subject: Re: This list participants profile ) Message-ID: <39D48BEA.4188C0CC@gtech.com>O   Bill Gunshannon wrote:6 > On Fri, 29 Sep 2000, Arne [iso-8859-1] Vajhj wrote:C > > Anybody heard a story about Unix systems with uptime >5 years ?e > >0 > H > I don't know any unix Sysadmin who thinks that's significant enough to > keep track of.  E I thougth most Unixes has an "uptime" command, but OK I am not a Unix  expert.I  G >                I have no doubt that if the power here didn't get shut-E > off campus-wide every Good Friday all of mine would beat that mark.7  A Do not get me wrong. I am actually for relative frequent reboots.eA But it is just characteristic how many "me too" replies there are 8 when the talk comes uptime of VMS system for many years.  : And before anyone asks - the reson I am for reboots are to= check startup procedures. If you reboot the system after 5 orr= 10 years and it does not come proper up, then you have to askp? everybody: "did you install something during the last 5/10 year.% and forgot to put it in SYSTARTUP ?".u   Arne   ------------------------------   Date: 29 Sep 2000 16:25:39 GMT3 From: gartmann@immunbio.mpg.de (Christoph Gartmann),+ Subject: Re: This list participants profilei0 Message-ID: <8r2fq3$mkj$1@n.ruf.uni-freiburg.de>  w In article <3.0.5.32.20000929111056.00976010@discovery.fuentez.com>, Jim Jennis <jjennis@discovery.fuentez.com> writes:e( >At 03:30 PM 9/29/2000 +0100, you wrote:D >>Yes, Fabio, Compaq have given OpenVMS at least a small advertisingC >>budget, and the OpenVMS balls are part of that. Sue did hint thataG >>non-US recipients might see some delays, but some in the UK have them- >>now. >>D >>Tim, still waiting to see a OpenVMS ball (maybe I should have lied( >>and ticked that "Decision Maker" box). >i >Tim,p >iJ >You are not alone....I actually DO sign the checks to Compaq and (so far)F >seen only "bills" and not "balls" from Compaq. (They are VERY GOOD at >sending those!)  * I got mine a few days ago here in Germany.   Regards,    Christoph Gartmannl  @ P.S.: 39, with VMS since 1988 (before IBM VM/CMS, CICS, VSE,...)  H -----------------------------------------------------------------------+H | Max-Planck-Institut fuer      Phone   : +49-761-5108-464   Fax: -452 |H | Immunbiologie                                                        |H | Postfach 1169                 Internet: gartmann@immunbio.mpg.de     |H | D-79011  Freiburg, FRG                                               |H +--------- http://www.immunbio.mpg.de/home/english/menue.html ---------+   ------------------------------    Date: 29 Sep 2000 09:43:06 -07001 From: nothome@spammers.are.scum (Malcolm Dunnett)0+ Subject: Re: This list participants profileo, Message-ID: <8ZSaJDl1LLFf@malvm1.mala.bc.ca>  M In article <Pine.LNX.4.10.10009290802510.25999-100000@triangle.cs.uofs.edu>,  .     Bill Gunshannon <bill@cs.uofs.edu> writes: >>=201B >> Anybody heard a story about Unix systems with uptime >5 years ? >>=20g > H > I don't know any unix Sysadmin who thinks that's significant enough toG > keep track of. I have no doubt that if the power here didn't get shut E > off campus-wide every Good Friday all of mine would beat that mark.c > @    Our Tru64 Unix system quite possibly could, but the vendor ofA library automation software we run on it insists Unix needs to beeD rebooted frequently and their support folks often won't troubleshootC a problem if we haven't rebooted the system within the last week ors two.   ------------------------------  # Date: Fri, 29 Sep 2000 16:56:16 GMTa/ From: "Tom Wade" <t.wade@vms.eurokom.ie.nospam>t) Subject: UltraSCSI hub & fair arbitration - Message-ID: <QQ3B5.4333$44.13150@news.iol.ie>2  
 Greetings,  = A couple of quick questions about the DWZZH-05 UltraSCSI hub.R  L 1.   According to the docs, it would appear that Fair Arbitration is enabledG     when the switch is in the "up" position, but this is not absolutely] clear,G     as it depends on how you interpret the black and white areas of the> picture (     of the switch.  Can anyone confirm ?  L 2.   Can this setting be changed without power cycling the hub, or rebootingK     any of the hosts connected to it (DS-10 + Alphaserver 800s running VMS)  or*     indeed the RAID controller (RA-3000) ?     Many thanks for any info.-  L ---------------------------------------------------------------------------- --A Tom Wade    | EMail: T.Wade@vms.eurokom.ie  (all domain mailers).yG EuroKom     | X400:  g=tom;s=wade;o=eurokom;p=eurokom;a=eirmail400;c=ie-& 30, Dale Rd | Tel:   +353 (1) 278-7878& Stillorgan  | Fax:   +353 (1) 278-78793 Co Dublin   | Disclaimer:  This is not a disclaimerr@ Ireland     | Tip:         "Friends don't let friends do Unix !"   ------------------------------  # Date: Fri, 29 Sep 2000 08:37:02 GMTd% From: A.Greig@virgin.net (Alan Greig)u9 Subject: Re: UNDELET (Was Re: Suggested VMS new feature!)t2 Message-ID: <39d45418.1966907743@news.newsguy.com>  . On Thu, 28 Sep 2000 15:37:23 GMT, "John Nixon"# <jorlnixon@worldnet.att.net> wrote:   > >I hope I didn't insult Glen in my previous post when I wanted? >UNDELETE to be supported by the "best engineers in the world".e@ >I was just pointing out that as a group, the VMS engineers have% >turned out the best OS in the world.n >EB >And without trying to "Undelete" a dead horse,  We already have a= >third party BACKUP command that requires its own maintenancer@ >such as testing with VMS version upgrades, de-installing during. >certain application linking procedures etc... > @ >I would also like to have a DIR command that will sort by date,  ? Yet another feature that TOPS-20 had. In fact you could sort by F creation date, modification date, read date, filename, extension, size etc.   --
 Alan Greig   ------------------------------   Date: 29 Sep 2000 12:08:44 GMT, From: bill@cs.scranton.edu (Bill Gunshannon)$ Subject: VaxStation 3100 Floppy Disk, Message-ID: <8r20oc$26gk$1@info.cs.uofs.edu>  ? Is it possible to read a PC floppy disk on a VaxStation 3100 or ? to write a VMS type floppy on a PC??  I am trying to find a way;( to move data (Hobbyist PAKs) to my 3100.  
 Thank you.   bill   -- oJ Bill Gunshannon          |  de-moc-ra-cy (di mok' ra see) n.  Three wolvesD bill@cs.scranton.edu     |  and a sheep voting on what's for dinner. University of Scranton   |A Scranton, Pennsylvania   |         #include <std.disclaimer.h>   y   ------------------------------    Date: 29 Sep 2000 09:53:30 -0500, From: koehler@eisner.decus.org (Bob Koehler)( Subject: Re: VaxStation 3100 Floppy Disk+ Message-ID: <DCiLrvzMWB2n@eisner.decus.org>   [ In article <8r20oc$26gk$1@info.cs.uofs.edu>, bill@cs.scranton.edu (Bill Gunshannon) writes:CA > Is it possible to read a PC floppy disk on a VaxStation 3100 ormA > to write a VMS type floppy on a PC??  I am trying to find a wayv* > to move data (Hobbyist PAKs) to my 3100.  F There's a utility shipped in the Pathworks server kit, and another oneF available somewhere on the net which will handle DOS FAT floppies fromE VMS.  IIRC one's called PCX and the other PCDISK but I can't remember> which is which.r  H There's a VMS floopy reader for DOS, but I don't think there's a writer.A I understand DOS/Windoze have a habit of trashing the first block.* of the filesystem with a "harmless" stamp.  F ----------------------------------------------------------------------? Bob Koehler                     | Computer Sciences Corporation = Hubble Space Telescope Payload  | Federal Sector, Civil Group E  Flight Software Team           | please remove ".aspm" when replyingu   ------------------------------  # Date: Fri, 29 Sep 2000 13:57:41 GMTn- From: goathunter@goatley.com (Hunter Goatley)-( Subject: Re: VaxStation 3100 Floppy Disk1 Message-ID: <39d49f64.173643516@swen.process.com>e  E On 29 Sep 2000 09:53:30 -0500, koehler@eisner.decus.org (Bob Koehler)  wrote:  \ >In article <8r20oc$26gk$1@info.cs.uofs.edu>, bill@cs.scranton.edu (Bill Gunshannon) writes:B >> Is it possible to read a PC floppy disk on a VaxStation 3100 orB >> to write a VMS type floppy on a PC??  I am trying to find a way+ >> to move data (Hobbyist PAKs) to my 3100.0 >2G >There's a utility shipped in the Pathworks server kit, and another one G >available somewhere on the net which will handle DOS FAT floppies fromuF >VMS.  IIRC one's called PCX and the other PCDISK but I can't remember >which is which. >y! PCDISK is shipped with Pathworks.   < MGPCX is freeware originally written by Matt Madison and nowA maintained by me that  reads and writes DOS-format floppies undere VMS. You can find it here:  ( ftp://ftp.wku.edu/vms/fileserv/mgpcx.zip     Hunter ------9 Hunter Goatley, Process Software, http://www.process.com/ : goathunter@goatley.com      http://www.goatley.com/hunter/   ------------------------------  % Date: Fri, 29 Sep 2000 15:11:05 +0100 - From: Tim Llewellyn <tim.llewellyn@bbc.co.uk>I( Subject: Re: VaxStation 3100 Floppy Disk) Message-ID: <39D4A2F9.BE6A5A37@bbc.co.uk>a   Bob Koehler wrote:  ] > In article <8r20oc$26gk$1@info.cs.uofs.edu>, bill@cs.scranton.edu (Bill Gunshannon) writes:lC > > Is it possible to read a PC floppy disk on a VaxStation 3100 or C > > to write a VMS type floppy on a PC??  I am trying to find a waya, > > to move data (Hobbyist PAKs) to my 3100. >uH > There's a utility shipped in the Pathworks server kit, and another oneH > available somewhere on the net which will handle DOS FAT floppies fromG > VMS.  IIRC one's called PCX and the other PCDISK but I can't remembert > which is which.- >-J > There's a VMS floopy reader for DOS, but I don't think there's a writer.C > I understand DOS/Windoze have a habit of trashing the first block , > of the filesystem with a "harmless" stamp. >k  E  However, both require previous loading of software onto your VMS boxaG to read the floppy. As Bill is trying to load his PAKs onto the box via.M floppy, I guess he doesn't have an alternative route to the box (eg network).   K PCDISK is/was in the Pathworks kit, I think PCX was withdrawn by the authoro some years back.   Regardsc --6 Tim Llewellyn, OpenVMS Infrastructure, Remarcs Project0 MedAS at the BBC, Whiteladies Road, Bristol, UK.A Email tim.llewellyn@bbc.co.uk. Home tim.llewellyn@cableinet.co.uk   A I speak for myself only and my views in no way represent those ofI MedAS or the BBC.h   ------------------------------   Date: 29 Sep 2000 14:34:10 GMT* From: bdwheele@indiana.edu (Brian Wheeler)( Subject: Re: VaxStation 3100 Floppy Disk3 Message-ID: <8r2992$cii$1@flotsam.uits.indiana.edu>d  ) In article <39D4A2F9.BE6A5A37@bbc.co.uk>, 0 	Tim Llewellyn <tim.llewellyn@bbc.co.uk> writes: >  >  > Bob Koehler wrote: > ^ >> In article <8r20oc$26gk$1@info.cs.uofs.edu>, bill@cs.scranton.edu (Bill Gunshannon) writes:D >> > Is it possible to read a PC floppy disk on a VaxStation 3100 orD >> > to write a VMS type floppy on a PC??  I am trying to find a way- >> > to move data (Hobbyist PAKs) to my 3100.- >>I >> There's a utility shipped in the Pathworks server kit, and another oneiI >> available somewhere on the net which will handle DOS FAT floppies from-H >> VMS.  IIRC one's called PCX and the other PCDISK but I can't remember >> which is which. >>K >> There's a VMS floopy reader for DOS, but I don't think there's a writer. D >> I understand DOS/Windoze have a habit of trashing the first block- >> of the filesystem with a "harmless" stamp.e >> > G >  However, both require previous loading of software onto your VMS boxeI > to read the floppy. As Bill is trying to load his PAKs onto the box viaoO > floppy, I guess he doesn't have an alternative route to the box (eg network).l > M > PCDISK is/was in the Pathworks kit, I think PCX was withdrawn by the author  > some years back. > 	 > Regards- > --8 > Tim Llewellyn, OpenVMS Infrastructure, Remarcs Project2 > MedAS at the BBC, Whiteladies Road, Bristol, UK.C > Email tim.llewellyn@bbc.co.uk. Home tim.llewellyn@cableinet.co.uk- > C > I speak for myself only and my views in no way represent those ofe > MedAS or the BBC.e >  >   9 This is gross, but it does work (at least on an alpha)....  ? on a unix box use dd to write a .com file to the disk directly:3  H dd if=/dev/zero of=/dev/fd0  # erase the contents of the disk with nulls3 dd if=vms_licenses.com of=/dev/fd0 # write the file-  0 then, mount the disk as foreign and copy it off:   $ mount/for dva0:  $ copy dva0: vms_licenses.com.  M You will have to edit vms_licenses.com to remove the trailing garbage, thoughw. I think DCL will just bitch and moan a little.  I I think I may have had to change the file attributes as well, but I don'ts remember....  
 Brian Wheeler5 bdwheele@indiana.edu   ------------------------------  # Date: Fri, 29 Sep 2000 15:12:30 GMT>- From: goathunter@goatley.com (Hunter Goatley)e( Subject: Re: VaxStation 3100 Floppy Disk1 Message-ID: <39d4b0b0.178070792@swen.process.com>l  1 On Fri, 29 Sep 2000 15:11:05 +0100, Tim Llewellyna  <tim.llewellyn@bbc.co.uk> wrote: > F > However, both require previous loading of software onto your VMS boxH >to read the floppy. As Bill is trying to load his PAKs onto the box viaN >floppy, I guess he doesn't have an alternative route to the box (eg network). >- Good point; I missed that.  L >PCDISK is/was in the Pathworks kit, I think PCX was withdrawn by the author >some years back.R >TA Matt Madison pulled PCX back in '92 or so, but I resurrected it ac< couple of years later, fixed some bugs, added some features,? and have supported it ever since.  (It was originally withdrawn B because it had a problem and Matt no longer had access to a systemC with a floppy drive; I did, so I fixed the bugs and put it back outi there.)T  ( ftp://ftp.wku.edu/vms/fileserv/mgpcx.zip     Hunter ------9 Hunter Goatley, Process Software, http://www.process.com/N: goathunter@goatley.com      http://www.goatley.com/hunter/   ------------------------------  # Date: Fri, 29 Sep 2000 17:17:23 GMTt7 From: "Lyle W. West" <lyle.west@childrenshc.org.nospam>a( Subject: Re: VaxStation 3100 Floppy Disk6 Message-ID: <39D4880E.391A537D@childrenshc.org.nospam>   Hunter Goatley wrote:, > C > Matt Madison pulled PCX back in '92 or so, but I resurrected it a > > couple of years later, fixed some bugs, added some features,A > and have supported it ever since.  (It was originally withdrawn D > because it had a problem and Matt no longer had access to a systemE > with a floppy drive; I did, so I fixed the bugs and put it back out 	 > there.): >  > Hunter > ------ >--l  C Speaking of which, the MG software list (abstract) also descibes a DF package call MPMGR, a mod params cleanup tool I assume. Unfortunately,E the Zip file for it doesn't exist. Even though it is/was written withhA PL/I, with the hobby licenses, this may not be an issue, else it yD could be 'ported' (kinda reluctant to use that word here) to another	 language.x  E Is there a particular reason it is no longer available? I still have pC several production vaxen here that could use a good cleanup, and I iB am reluctant to jump into a couple of manual modparams salvations.  0 My opinions seldom reflect those of my employer.   Lyle W. West   ------------------------------  % Date: Fri, 29 Sep 2000 09:14:31 -0400n/ From: "Steven J. Nafziger" <dogwood@bright.net>s Subject: Want to buy= Message-ID: <NDBBIMPEHCCOJPELGBNGMEMNIAAA.dogwood@bright.net>a  , This is a multi-part message in MIME format.  + ------=_NextPart_000_00DF_01C029F5.AD5F3C80 $ Content-Type: multipart/alternative;5 	boundary="----=_NextPart_001_00E0_01C029F5.AD5F3C80"e    + ------=_NextPart_001_00E0_01C029F5.AD5F3C80  Content-Type: text/plain;g 	charset="Windows-1252"0 Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bito  K BlankI'm looking for Microvax 3100 Model 20 processors in the U.S.   SystemnJ Part number is DV-31E .       I don't care about disk or licenses but willJ also purchase those.  Just in need of the processor boards.    Does anyone! have any they would like to sell?0   Steven J. Nafziger CPA
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L Message-ID: <rdeininger-2909000214500001@user-2ivebhk.dialup.mindspring.com>  Y In article <39D26A72.D07CCA7A@tsoft-inc.com>, David A Froble <davef@tsoft-inc.com> wrote:y   > Robert Deininger wrote:- > > J > > "Portable" has been one component of "good" for quite a long time now. > Q > So I'm guessing that if an application isn't written in C or another of the few1F > languages supported on Unix, then it by definition cannot be 'good'? > P > Guess a whole bunch of us with applications written in VAX/DEC BASIC will have% > to realize that we're just no good.:   Now hold on!  If a good languange isn't supported on a bad platform, I count that against the platform, not the language. And not against the authors who use the language.    But once you decide to use BASIC, you can decide to behave yourself with VMS-isms, or go hog-wild.  That will effect portability, right?  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