1 INFO-VAX	Thu, 12 Apr 2001	Volume 2001 : Issue 205       Contents: Re: Andrew in peril? Re: Andrew in peril? Re: Another Win for OpenVMS  Re: Another Win for OpenVMS  Background Jobs  Re: Background Jobs  RE: Background Jobs  Re: Basic Clustering question  DECnet Plus over TCP/IP  Re: DECnet Plus over TCP/IP  Re: DECnet Plus over TCP/IP $ Re: free disk space on a bound disks0 Re: How can I get the hardware-id number(newbie)2 Re: How to set the date format for insert statment- Re: KZCCA Ultrawide SCSI Adapters for the VAX ( Re: London, England Technical Update Day( Re: London, England Technical Update Day" Re: More VMS ads spotted in the UK& NOSLOT No PCB available (failed spawn)* Re: NOSLOT No PCB available (failed spawn)# Online Parts Database now working !  Open 3d and Hobbist  Re: Open 3d and Hobbist 9 OpenVMS 7.2-2 and Oracle 8.1.7 - Unsupported combination? 6 Re: OpenVMS Frequently Asked Questions (FAQ), Part 3/56 Re: OpenVMS Frequently Asked Questions (FAQ), Part 3/5) Problems with CSWS and CGI-BIN on TCPWARE 3 Re: Q: Converting a VAX 6000-420 to a VAX 6000-620?  Q: Status of SOAP on VMS regarding  soft error  RE: regarding  soft error = Re: Rumour Has It That CHARLIE MATCO HAS RISEN FROM THE GRAVE = Re: Rumour Has It That CHARLIE MATCO HAS RISEN FROM THE GRAVE  Re: Silent Sun Re: Silent Sun Re: SMP_SPINWAIT Re: SMP_SPINWAIT Re: SMP_SPINWAIT Re: SMP_SPINWAIT? Re: SMP_SPINWAIT - is the tip in OpenVMS Times correct and why? ? Re: SMP_SPINWAIT - is the tip in OpenVMS Times correct and why? 3 Re: Solaris tmpfs (was Re: VMS-Related: Affordable) 7 Re: strange behaviour of DIRECTORY with long file names 7 Re: strange behaviour of DIRECTORY with long file names 7 Re: strange behaviour of DIRECTORY with long file names 7 Re: strange behaviour of DIRECTORY with long file names 7 Re: strange behaviour of DIRECTORY with long file names  SUBMIT Command - Brain Cramp  Re: SUBMIT Command - Brain Cramp  Re: SUBMIT Command - Brain Cramp  Re: SUBMIT Command - Brain Cramp- RE: Talk to Rich Marcello - Austin Texas area - RE: Talk to Rich Marcello - Austin Texas area - RE: Talk to Rich Marcello - Austin Texas area  Re: VMS friendly website???  Re: VMS friendly website???  Re: VMS friendly website???  Re: VMS friendly website???  Re: VMS friendly website???  Re: VMS friendly website???  Re: VMS friendly website???  Re: VMS friendly website???  RE: VMS friendly website???  Re: VMS friendly website???  Re: VMS friendly website???  Re: VMS friendly website???  Re: VMS friendly website???  Re: VMS friendly website???  RE: VMS friendly website???  Re: VMS friendly website???  Re: VMS friendly website???  Re: VMS friendly website???  Re: VMS friendly website???  Re: VMS friendly website???  Re: VMS friendly website???  web enabling open vms alpha  web enabling open vms alpha  Re: web enabling open vms alpha  [INFO] PCSI_Wiz 1.1-2   F ----------------------------------------------------------------------  # Date: Thu, 12 Apr 2001 13:31:41 GMT 4 From: "Terry C. Shannon" <terryshannon@mediaone.net> Subject: Re: Andrew in peril? < Message-ID: <17iB6.8100$%_1.1786084@typhoon.ne.mediaone.net>  ? "Robert Deininger" <rdeininger@mindspring.com> wrote in message F news:rdeininger-1204010111030001@user-2ive63a.dialup.mindspring.com... > In articleI > <D46FE9B132FB9B44AEC242A96E4AB75001925AE0@rlghncst625.usps.gov>, "Webb, 7 > William W Raleigh, NC" <wwebb1@email.usps.gov> wrote:  >  > G > > When the headline said "reviews", I thought they were talking about  > > *product* reviews....  > J > Is Andrew a product?  Who designed him?  When will they finish debugging him? >   D Andrew is a Sun Microsystems marketing resource, and a pretty darnedK effective one at that. Would that Compaq decided to dedicate a VMS engineer = to monitoring (and adding content to) Sun-related newsgroups.   $ As ever, IT'S THE MARKETING, STUPID!  
 charlie matco    ------------------------------  % Date: Thu, 12 Apr 2001 16:23:11 -0000 - From: wspencer@ap.nospam.org (Warren Spencer)  Subject: Re: Andrew in peril? . Message-ID: <tdbljfjuusc67@news.supernews.com>  < wwebb1@email.usps.gov (Webb, William W Raleigh, NC) wrote inA <D46FE9B132FB9B44AEC242A96E4AB75001925AE0@rlghncst625.usps.gov>:    J >http://news.cnet.com/news/0-1003-200-5567122.html?tag=pt.abc.tech..ne_556 >712     From the same article:  / "Managers will be subject to the same criteria"   K So if my manager ranks me poorly (bottom 10%), and (s)he in turn is ranked  L poorly (bottom 10%) by her/his manager, does that give me cause to question  how I've been ranked?    ws   --  1 << Marriage is Grand.  Divorce is Fifty Grand. >>    Warren Spencer Senior Software Engineer The Associated Press  ? ** My employer does not necessarily agree with my statements **    ------------------------------    Date: 12 Apr 2001 10:30:29 -00004 From: Doc.Cypher <Use-Author-Address-Header@[127.1]>$ Subject: Re: Another Win for OpenVMS5 Message-ID: <20010412103029.4664.qmail@nym.alias.net>   " -----BEGIN PGP SIGNED MESSAGE-----  = On 07 Apr 2001, Paul Repacholi <prep@prep.synonet.com> wrote: 7 >Doc.Cypher <Use-Author-Address-Header@[127.1]> writes:  > ! >> Personally I liked this one...  >>  9 >> http://cold-dead-fish.com/reviews/worst_of_the_web.htm  >  >Droll, very droll.  > F >I'd hate to have to go a 'worst of the web'. Not know where to start,$ >and do know that it will never end.  + I was just looking for the best 404 by far.      Doc. - --  6 The bigger the humbug, the better people will like it. ~ Phineas Taylor Barnum.   -----BEGIN PGP SIGNATURE-----  Version: 2.6.2  @ iQEVAwUBOs+b8sriC3SGiziTAQFUEwf/UwdlKpFrd+d95q9n6tybz7P6mIgeV6Ca@ Z5O51v907/DoT85GNcKeRvEAsazJIfLpIB4X6e16sVH4eOuqyjf4nNnIewMZZ9Rl@ YBz7OPEJZgX5hk1fjhZWo9w84sFv3UHQ3mZ2ElieSEOOESuKwJCYXGlIkKvPmzaS@ wzP4vgu2wJcG/MZKhx33/b4wLp3uQMI/fkPSwgNRS7gnFRr6OZ2i5Hycg5uDzT5P@ wLmw3la2U8yAppbL3mE9dX+EZn2NZFGILuI+SiqVxZxWnRYoXQcGP5hHBnekYM1e8 I8oX+xQs3h+lstwUw9InN+b5DXIUH0WU9KGwLjZjfV0LACepDoJRqA== =RRxU  -----END PGP SIGNATURE-----    ------------------------------  % Date: Thu, 12 Apr 2001 17:09:44 +0100   From: Paul Sture <paul@sture.ch>$ Subject: Re: Another Win for OpenVMS+ Message-ID: <VA.0000034d.07444564@sture.ch>   G In article <20010412103029.4664.qmail@nym.alias.net>, Doc.Cypher wrote: ? > On 07 Apr 2001, Paul Repacholi <prep@prep.synonet.com> wrote: 9 > >Doc.Cypher <Use-Author-Address-Header@[127.1]> writes:  > > # > >> Personally I liked this one...  > >>  ; > >> http://cold-dead-fish.com/reviews/worst_of_the_web.htm  > >  > >Droll, very droll.  > > H > >I'd hate to have to go a 'worst of the web'. Not know where to start,& > >and do know that it will never end. > - > I was just looking for the best 404 by far.  >  > ) Try http://www.sevenelements.com/blahblah + (any non-existant url at that site will do)   I Best viewed in full screen mode - wait to see what it does. Also try the  F tiny hyperlink found at the bottom right hand side of the second page 
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 Paul Sture Switzerland    ------------------------------  % Date: Thu, 12 Apr 2001 17:32:55 +0100 + From: Laura Mark <llm@interchangegroup.com>  Subject: Background Jobs5 Message-ID: <002401c0c36e$3aee79a0$98c809c0@LK950021>   , This is a multi-part message in MIME format.  + ------=_NextPart_000_0025_01C0C376.9CB2E1A0  Content-Type: text/plain;  	charset="iso-8859-1"  Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit   H Is it possible to submit a VAX script containing a report statement to aH batch queue so that it runs in the background.  The PC connection to the$ server currently has to stay active.   Any help would be appreciated.   Regards 
 Laura Mark Interchange Support Centre E-mail: llm@interchange.co.uk  Tel: +44 1525 716716 Fax: +44 1509 670555$ Web: http://www.interchangegroup.com  K NO COMMITMENT MADE VIA E-MAIL IS CONSIDERED BINDING UNLESS CONFIRMED BY FAX  OR MAIL.      + ------=_NextPart_000_0025_01C0C376.9CB2E1A0  Content-Type: text/html; 	charset="iso-8859-1" + Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable   0 <!DOCTYPE HTML PUBLIC "-//W3C//DTD W3 HTML//EN"> <HTML> <HEAD>9 <META HTTP-EQUIV=3D"Content-Type" CONTENT=3D"text/html; =  charset=3Diso-8859-1">      ; <META content=3D'"MSHTML 4.72.3612.1706"' name=3DGENERATOR>  </HEAD>  <BODY bgColor=3D#ffffff>J <DIV><SPAN class=3D610293116-12042001><FONT color=3D#000000 face=3DArial = size=3D2>Is it=20 J possible to submit a VAX script containing a report statement to a batch = queue=20J so that it runs in the background.&nbsp; The PC connection to the server =  1 currently has to stay active.</FONT></SPAN></DIV> J <DIV><SPAN class=3D610293116-12042001><FONT color=3D#000000 face=3DArial =  # size=3D2></FONT></SPAN>&nbsp;</DIV> J <DIV><SPAN class=3D610293116-12042001><FONT color=3D#000000 face=3DArial = size=3D2>Any=20 . help would be appreciated.</FONT></SPAN></DIV>J <DIV><SPAN class=3D610293116-12042001><FONT color=3D#000000 face=3DArial =  # size=3D2></FONT></SPAN>&nbsp;</DIV> J <DIV><SPAN class=3D610293116-12042001><FONT color=3D#000000 face=3DArial =  $ size=3D2>Regards</FONT></SPAN></DIV>J <P><FONT face=3DHelvetica size=3D2>Laura Mark<B></B></FONT> <BR><B><FONT =  A face=3DHelvetica size=3D2>Interchange Support Centre</FONT></B> =  <BR><B><FONT=20 D face=3DHelvetica size=3D2>E-mail: llm@interchange.co.uk</FONT></B> = <BR><FONT=20@ face=3DHelvetica size=3D2>Tel: +44 1525 716716</FONT><BR><FONT = face=3DHelvetica=20 @ size=3D2>Fax: +44 1509 670555 </FONT><BR><FONT color=3D#000000 = face=3DHelvetica=20 @ size=3D2>Web:</FONT><U> <FONT color=3D#0000ff face=3DHelvetica = size=3D2><A=20, href=3D"http://www.interchangegroup.com/"=20B target=3D_blank>http://www.interchangegroup.com</A></FONT></U></P>J <P><B><FONT color=3D#000000 face=3DHelvetica size=3D2>NO COMMITMENT MADE = VIA E-MAIL IS=20C CONSIDERED BINDING UNLESS CONFIRMED BY FAX OR MAIL.</FONT></B> </P>  <DIV>&nbsp;</DIV></BODY></HTML>   - ------=_NextPart_000_0025_01C0C376.9CB2E1A0--    ------------------------------  % Date: Thu, 12 Apr 2001 09:44:23 -0700 ! From: Shane.F.Smith@Healthnet.com  Subject: Re: Background JobsD Message-ID: <OF9030851E.316D6B6F-ON88256A2C.005BCCA8@foundation.com>  H I think we'll need some more detail on exactly what the "report stateme= nt" H is, and what it does, but the answer is probably yes. You can do pretty=  H much anything in batch that doesn't require human decisions or use of a=   GUI.   Shane           ? Laura Mark <llm@interchangegroup.com> on 04/12/2001 09:32:55 AM   7 Please respond to Laura Mark <llm@interchangegroup.com>    To:   Info-VAX@Mvb.Saic.Com  cc:    Subject:  Background Jobs       H Is it  possible to submit a VAX script containing a report statement to=  aH batch queue  so that it runs in the background.=A0 The PC connection to=  the% server  currently has to stay active.    Any  help would be appreciated.    Regards   
 Laura Mark Interchange Support Centre E-mail: llm@interchange.co.uk  Tel: +44 1525 716716 Fax: +44 1509 670555$ Web: http://www.interchangegroup.com  H NO COMMITMENT MADE VIA E-MAIL IS  CONSIDERED BINDING UNLESS CONFIRMED B= Y  FAX OR MAIL.           =    ------------------------------  % Date: Thu, 12 Apr 2001 12:57:27 -0500 * From: WILLIAM WEBB <WWEBB1@email.usps.gov> Subject: RE: Background Jobs- Message-ID: <0033000021330811000002L012*@MHS>   4 =0AHow long is your "script"?  Can you post it here?  2 It all depends on *exactly* what you're doing, and+ how/from what your report is being created.   6 I'd say that the odds are at least 90% yes on this but% without more detail couldn't be sure.    WWWebb > -----Original Message-----1 > From: Info-VAX-Request@Mvb.Saic.Com at INTERNET ) > Sent: Thursday, April 12, 2001 12:43 PM D > To: Webb, William W Raleigh, NC; Info-VAX@Mvb.Saic.Com at INTERNET > Subject: Background Jobs >  > ; > Is it possible to submit a VAX script containing a report  > statement to a8 > batch queue so that it runs in the background.  The PC > connection to the & > server currently has to stay active. >   > Any help would be appreciated. > 	 > Regards  > Laura Mark > Interchange Support Centre > E-mail: llm@interchange.co.uk  > Tel: +44 1525 716716 > Fax: +44 1509 670555& > Web: http://www.interchangegroup.com > < > NO COMMITMENT MADE VIA E-MAIL IS CONSIDERED BINDING UNLESS > CONFIRMED BY FAX
 > OR MAIL. >  >  > 3 > File item 2 original document name: Not specified # > File item 2 document type: PCDATA   > File item 2 size (bytes): 1701 >=   ------------------------------   Date: 12 Apr 01 05:38:12 PDT From: mckinneyj@cpva.saic.com & Subject: Re: Basic Clustering question( Message-ID: <DRpqg8QZQhU$@cpva.saic.com>  : In article <5Y3B6.4622$Up.163412@sea-read.news.verio.net>,0  "Jim McKinney" <jmckinney@duvoisin.com> writes:J > This is probably a dumb question, but here goes. We have a single AS1200K > that supports several hundred users in a wide geographic area. All of the N > users connect via a Windows application that talk directly to an IP port. WeL > have had some hardware problems in the past that have resulted in extendedL > downtime (8 hours plus). I would like to look at getting another 1200 withL > duplicate hardware and then setting these two machines up in a cluster andH > using volume shadowing to mirror the production machine's disks to theK > second box. In the event of a failure of the primary machine I would then M > have the second box ready to take over. Where I am getting confused is what N > is the easiest way to have all of the clients connect to the second box? I'mJ > thinking that one way is to change the identity (IP address, etc) on theJ > second box and reboot non-clustered when the primary is down. This isn'tK > pretty, but will it work? We can afford 20-30 minutes to bring up another D > system in the event of a disaster and I need a solution that is asL > inexpensive as possible. The application itself is not clusterable and theN > vendor will not support it. The database can be clustered but the additionalG > licensing cost are over $50,000. So what I am looking for is a simple F > inexpensive way to bring a second duplicate box online as quickly as8 > possible. Any ideas would be most appreciated. Thanks. >  > Jim  >  >   B 	Since your concern is the reconnections of your "client"; and youE 	mention IP; you could do the following if Multinet is your IP stack.   > 	Create your cluster and share your disks; activate Multinet'sA 	cluster-alias feature. This cluster-alias is a second IP address = 	that will be served up by one of your cluster members; it is @ 	controlled by a cluster-wide lock. The first system to activateA 	multinet will create and hold this lock. It will own and respond @ 	to the cluster-alias address. If this node is shutdown or failsC 	the other node will sense that the lock has been released, acquire = 	it, and begin servicing the cluster-alias address. You could B 	potentially tie your software to the same lock (I forget the name@ 	but it can be found with SDA); just watch the lock and react toB 	a state change activating your application on the alternate node.8 	Even for system startup you can just look for the lock.  E 	Just a thought... perhaps it'll help. Dunno if other IP stacks offer G 	similar features. And don't know if you can make this fit your budget.  	Hope it helps.  --   - (also named) Jim   ------------------------------  % Date: Thu, 12 Apr 2001 10:29:50 -0400 , From: "J. Scott Greig" <jsgreig@geminaq.com>  Subject: DECnet Plus over TCP/IP1 Message-ID: <tYiB6.60$Dh6.2707@quark.idirect.com>   
 Hello all,  @ I currently use DECnet Plus (Version 7.1 ECO2) over TCP/IP using> TCP/IP Version 5.0A (Product Show History says TCPIP V5.0-10),, and have no complaints - it works just fine.  C My question is this: Can I use the same DECnet Plus version with an - older version of tcp/ip (i.e. UCX V4.2 ECO4)?   . Is there a dependency on the newer IP product?   Thanks in advance  Scott    ------------------------------  % Date: Thu, 12 Apr 2001 11:38:40 -0400 2 From: rdeininger@mindspring.com (Robert Deininger)$ Subject: Re: DECnet Plus over TCP/IPL Message-ID: <rdeininger-1204011138400001@user-2ive61r.dialup.mindspring.com>  B In article <tYiB6.60$Dh6.2707@quark.idirect.com>, "J. Scott Greig" <jsgreig@geminaq.com> wrote:  B > I currently use DECnet Plus (Version 7.1 ECO2) over TCP/IP using@ > TCP/IP Version 5.0A (Product Show History says TCPIP V5.0-10),. > and have no complaints - it works just fine. > E > My question is this: Can I use the same DECnet Plus version with an / > older version of tcp/ip (i.e. UCX V4.2 ECO4)?e   We use this configuration.   -- t Robert Deininger rdeininger@mindspring.comb   ------------------------------  % Date: Thu, 12 Apr 2001 17:44:14 +0100t  From: steven.reece@quintiles.com$ Subject: Re: DECnet Plus over TCP/IPH Message-ID: <OF7C8461A7.A8A92DFA-ON80256A2C.005B72E1@qedi.quintiles.com>  K DECnet Plus over TCP/IP is reliant upon the PWIP driver so as long as therea6 is such a driver in the TCP/IP stack you should be OK.K FWIW, I've had a number of production systems with DECnet Plus v7.1 and UCX3) v4.2 Eco1 and Eco 4 not had any problems.1  2 J. Scott Greig jsgreig at geminaq dot com) asked : >>>d@ I currently use DECnet Plus (Version 7.1 ECO2) over TCP/IP using> TCP/IP Version 5.0A (Product Show History says TCPIP V5.0-10),, and have no complaints - it works just fine.  C My question is this: Can I use the same DECnet Plus version with ans- older version of tcp/ip (i.e. UCX V4.2 ECO4)?O  . Is there a dependency on the newer IP product? <<<L   ------------------------------   Date: 12 Apr 2001 04:49 CSTn' From: carl@gerg.tamu.edu (Carl Perkins) - Subject: Re: free disk space on a bound disksT- Message-ID: <12APR200104491369@gerg.tamu.edu>   5 "David J. Dachtera" <djesys.nospam@fsi.net> writes...a; }> Actually, it is easier to grab the freeware DFU utility.  }>  O }> This easily generates fragmentatio, disk utilization, and space free reportsR }> among other options.e }> e }> No muss. No fuss. }> C3 }> The freeware can be found on the Compaq VMS siteD' }> http://www.openvms.compaq.com/portalg } 8 }....but you'd be better off to get the newest DFU from: } $ }http://www.djesys.com/freeware/vms/ } % }Be sure to get the ECO-1 file, also.e }  }--  }David J. Dachtera  E That may be the case, but the place the above URL takes you to sucks.l? It is a listing of the directory. If you actually click on, foraC example, the "freeware.html" file (which one might naturally assume B was an index to the stuff in this directory - note that DFU is notG mentioned in the index.txt file that is also there) it redirects you to?O the DJE Systems OpenVMS Freeware page (http://www.djesys.com/vms/freeware.html)w> on which there is no DFU listed. Were you to start at the home> page and work your way down, via the "freeware" link, then the@ "Freeware for OpenVMS" link, this page that does not mention DFU> is also where you'd end up. Quite a difference between what isH in .../freeware/vms/ and what you can get to from .../vms/freeware.html.  C So it seems that the only way to actually get to this newest DFU iseA to somehow know the magic URL you gave above that avoids all that-F nasty HTML stuff and just does a directory listing of the right place.> (Unless someone else, like the Compaq's OpenVMS freeware site,? has also got this newest version - presumably it doesn't or you1. wouldn't have said not to go there to get it.)   --- Carl   ------------------------------  % Date: Thu, 12 Apr 2001 12:21:47 -04004- From: "Peter Weaver" <peter.weaver@stelco.ca>.9 Subject: Re: How can I get the hardware-id number(newbie)E4 Message-ID: <2DkB6.187439$Z2.2264742@nnrp1.uunet.ca>  > "David M. Heller" <dheller1@rochester.rr.com> wrote in message* news:3AD3BC99.8D65DEF0@rochester.rr.com... > Thanks for the reply >i( > When requesting my hobbyist license onB > line(http://www.montagar.com/htbin/ohp_hobreg) it asks for a CPU serialF > number(it won't work unless I enter a number) When I get the licenseE > back via by email it shows that number as being the hardware_id # InC > enter all the info exactly as shown in my email and I still get aHE > checksum error I've tried about every number that I can find inside- thea > case to no avail!1  E If you enter the license EXACTLY as shown in the e-mail and still getRB a checksum error it is possible that the hardware id has an ilegalD character in it. When I first applied for my hobbyist license for myF Charon-VAX I think I put N/A as the serial number. N/A was accepted byC VMSLICENSE.COM when I entered it, but the checksum always failed. I C just reapplied for another license using 1234 as the serial number.s   ------------------------------  % Date: Thu, 12 Apr 2001 11:14:21 -0400i. From: Michael Austin <maustin@nc.prestige.net>; Subject: Re: How to set the date format for insert statmente/ Message-ID: <3AD5C64C.75480573@nc.prestige.net>D  L This would have been more appropriately posted in the comp.databases.rdb NG.  L What is the datatype for this field in the database, because the method usedG will be different for each Rdb datatype.  Again, depending upon the Rdbr datatype try YYYYMMDD.  : I don't do a lot of prgramming, mostly physical tuning....   Michael Austin DBA Consultant     Jorge Valenzuela wrote:-   > Hello: >GF >     I am new in RDB for Alpha Open VMS and i can set the date format > display to > DD/MM/YYYY with the commande >r >     SET  DATE FORMAT DATE 28.a > D >     But it always ask me the dates fields for insert int he format > dd-mmm-yyyy (02-dec-2001),) > how to set this format for the insert ?  >r9 >     I am using a VB 5 app. conecting to RDB via ODBC32.  >wC >                                                 thanks in advanceo >  > Jorge V.S.'010410e >m > --J > //////////////////////////////////////////////////////////////////////// >A > //  ALEF DATA S.A.  //7 > //  Fn:(562) 695-6600  //  Jorge Valenzuela Sepulveda74 > //  Fx:(562) 697-2037  //  Jefe Area de Ingeniera3 > //  Agustinas 1141 piso 7. //  jvalen@alefdata.clU/ > //  Santiago, Chile  //  alefdata@alefdata.clMI > ///////////////////////////////////////////////////////////////////////E   ------------------------------  % Date: Thu, 12 Apr 2001 12:08:29 -0400K% From: "Brian Tillman" <tillman_brian>D6 Subject: Re: KZCCA Ultrawide SCSI Adapters for the VAX$ Message-ID: <3ad5d34c$1@news.si.com>  C >Allow me to toss out another question.  I need good Ultrawide SCSIV- >performance for a VAX 4000/100 and 4000/705.   9 Nemonix markets a VAX-based fast SCSI adapter.  See it at. http://www.nemonixinc.com/ --A Brian Tillman                   Internet: tillman_brian at si.comeA Smiths Aerospace                          tillman at swdev.si.comi= 3290 Patterson Ave. SE, MS      Addresses modified to prevents< Grand Rapids, MI 49512-1991     SPAM.  Replace "at" with "@"8        This opinion doesn't represent that of my company   ------------------------------  % Date: Thu, 12 Apr 2001 18:01:48 +0200i! From: Didier Morandi <DMo@ims.ch> 1 Subject: Re: London, England Technical Update Dayn& Message-ID: <3AD5D16C.C3E25A28@ims.ch>  N What about Zrich? I have a good friend who is the editor of OpenVMS Times :-)N and I read there that the show will cross the Channel to come to Zrich on the 21st of May...   D.   "Terry C. Shannon" wrote:- > ? > "Sue Skonetski" <susan.skonetski@compaq.com> wrote in message . > news:ZRXA6.775$fB6.19551@news.cpqcorp.net...D > > I can not give an honest answer to the question of will the same
 > information-N > > be presented at DECUS Lisbon because I have not seen the presentations.  IN > > am sure there will be some overlap, but none of the speakers are the same. > >  > > Sues > >t > K > That's right... if you want to hear Sue speak, you gotta go to the Londonr > event!   ------------------------------  # Date: Thu, 12 Apr 2001 17:44:37 GMTv4 From: "Terry C. Shannon" <terryshannon@mediaone.net>1 Subject: Re: London, England Technical Update Daye< Message-ID: <9QlB6.8863$%_1.1868433@typhoon.ne.mediaone.net>  . "Didier Morandi" <DMo@ims.ch> wrote in message  news:3AD5D16C.C3E25A28@ims.ch...L > What about Zrich? I have a good friend who is the editor of OpenVMS Times :-)9L > and I read there that the show will cross the Channel to come to Zrich on then > 21st of May... >   I What about Zrich? Glad you asked! Late word has it that the Zrich eventPK will be on 18 May. Rumour has it that Charlie Matco will be on hand to host - the closing session in the scenic Swiss city.e   ------------------------------  % Date: Thu, 12 Apr 2001 09:55:59 +01009% From: Alan Greig <a.greig@virgin.net>e+ Subject: Re: More VMS ads spotted in the UKu8 Message-ID: <a7radt4emb544jeapu7j8450b4mhrbtodd@4ax.com>  2 On Mon, 9 Apr 2001 20:57:07 +0100, "Richard Maher" <maher_rj@hotmail.c*m> wrote:r   >Hi, >nG >I've seen the one in Computer Weekly and I'll have a look at Computing63 >tomorrow but what was the third trade rag IT Week?e  D Network News (which is also the only publication I can think of thatF ran a positive VMS story prominently within the last year - although I don't recall the details).  K >If anyone knows who's responsible for these adds please pass on heart felt I >thanks! I was speaking to a mate today who contracts at a large UK Telco0H >that is looking to replace one of its VMS based billing systems.  He isH >going to make sure that everyone sees these adds and knows that the VMSK >market is in fact growing and that Compaq isn't afraid to push it. Keep up  >the good work.   8 Yep and I know a number of people saw them here as well.   >>I >Given recent share price dips and cost cutting across the board anything<F >that makes people feel good about staying with their tried and tested >systems has to be good. >3 >Regards Richard Maher.W >< >N1 >Alan Greig <a.greig@virgin.net> wrote in messagee3 >news:jg03dtg4f0k97r2okgu49p48um8kpcmunv@4ax.com...= >> >> They are still coming...t >>G >> In the latest issue of Computing dated 5th April the VMS AlphaservereG >> ad appears in one of the most prominent possible positions taking upUH >> the whole of Page 2. Page 1 is a newspaper style front page so Page 27 >> is the inside front cover. You can't really miss it.  >>G >> So that's it now appeared in all three of the biggest circulation UK H >> professional computing weekly magazines. Now would be a good time forH >> Compaq to take advantage by sending out some updates and links to VMSI >> future presentations. Although there isn't supposed to be a connectionnF >> there always is one. Magazines are more likely to regurgitate pressB >> releases as news if the company is also buying ad space for theI >> product. Both the upcoming VMS technical update days in London and the/? >> DII COE project should be worth of inclusion by any of thesea >> publications. >> --n >> Alanb >i   -- Alan   ------------------------------  % Date: Thu, 12 Apr 2001 07:46:03 -0400t- From: JF Mezei <jfmezei.spamnot@videotron.ca>u/ Subject: NOSLOT No PCB available (failed spawn) , Message-ID: <3AD59578.D4CCB6C7@videotron.ca>  L A while ago, I reported that I had an epoisode where I was no longer capableG of starting new processes (VAX VMS 7.2, dw-motif, bw screen) due to the1N "NOSLOT No PCB available" message, even though SHOW MEMORY showed I still have about 20 slots available.D  1 I rebooted the machine and the problem went away.   M But overnight, it cropped up again and I had to reboot the workstation again.0  L Once rebooted, I was able to create as many processes as I wanted until SHOW$ MEMORY woudl show no PCBs available.  M But after having done a spawn/nowait of TPU, a few invocations of CC LINK andsM RUN in a DECterm window, as well as a second DECterm where I do a SET HOST todL another node,  the problem cropped up again this morning. It had not cropped up in weeks beforehand.   L Obviously, there is something which I do which corrupts something somewhere.  % What should I be looking looking at ?1    B Here is some output from show memroy ? Anything obvious in there ?  
 $ show mem@               System Memory Resources on 12-APR-2001 07:36:56.01  L Physical Memory Usage (pages):     Total        Free      In Use    ModifiedL   Main Memory (16.00Mb)            32768        9788       21681        1299  L Virtual I/O Cache Usage (pages):   Total        Free      In Use     MaximumL   Cache Memory                      4055           0        4055        6392  L Slot Usage (slots):                Total        Free    Resident     SwappedL   Process Entry Slots                 50          20          25           5L   Balance Set Slots                   45          22          23           0  L Dynamic Memory Usage (bytes):      Total        Free      In Use     LargestL   Nonpaged Dynamic Memory        1906176      113280     1792896       32960L   Paged Dynamic Memory            958976      649360      309616      648624  L Paging File Usage (pages):                      Free  Reservable       TotalL   DISK$PEDALS:[SYS0.SYSEXE]SWAPFILE.SYS         5944        5944        7504L   DISK$PEDALS:[SYS0.SYSEXE]PAGEFILE.SYS        71738       42309       75000L   DISK$PEDALS:[SYS0.SYSEXE]PAGEFILE2.SYS;2     81520       64754       99992  N Of the physical pages in use, 9439 pages are permanently allocated to OpenVMS. $ spawnp" %SYSTEM-F-NOSLOT, no PCB available $o   ------------------------------  % Date: Thu, 12 Apr 2001 09:44:21 -0400 7 From: David Beatty <David.Beatty@sasSPAMITUPTHEZZZ.com> 3 Subject: Re: NOSLOT No PCB available (failed spawn)t2 Message-ID: <QrDVOnR1Sidx5N3pRJSHciyM1SgI@4ax.com>  < What patches do you have installed?  There is a reference in6 VAXUPDATE01_072 regarding massive pool corruption with= respect to IPC services.  It could also be an issue regarding > the version of Motif you are running with respect to VMS V7.2.  , On Thu, 12 Apr 2001 07:46:03 -0400, JF Mezei% <jfmezei.spamnot@videotron.ca> wrote:e  M >A while ago, I reported that I had an epoisode where I was no longer capable H >of starting new processes (VAX VMS 7.2, dw-motif, bw screen) due to theO >"NOSLOT No PCB available" message, even though SHOW MEMORY showed I still have  >about 20 slots available. >e2 >I rebooted the machine and the problem went away. > N >But overnight, it cropped up again and I had to reboot the workstation again. >aM >Once rebooted, I was able to create as many processes as I wanted until SHOWs% >MEMORY woudl show no PCBs available.p >cN >But after having done a spawn/nowait of TPU, a few invocations of CC LINK andN >RUN in a DECterm window, as well as a second DECterm where I do a SET HOST toM >another node,  the problem cropped up again this morning. It had not croppedt >up in weeks beforehand. >hM >Obviously, there is something which I do which corrupts something somewhere.r >u& >What should I be looking looking at ? >t >wC >Here is some output from show memroy ? Anything obvious in there ?d >i >$ show memlA >              System Memory Resources on 12-APR-2001 07:36:56.01s >dM >Physical Memory Usage (pages):     Total        Free      In Use    ModifiedrM >  Main Memory (16.00Mb)            32768        9788       21681        1299y >eM >Virtual I/O Cache Usage (pages):   Total        Free      In Use     MaximumDM >  Cache Memory                      4055           0        4055        6392o >nM >Slot Usage (slots):                Total        Free    Resident     Swapped M >  Process Entry Slots                 50          20          25           5lM >  Balance Set Slots                   45          22          23           0l > M >Dynamic Memory Usage (bytes):      Total        Free      In Use     LargestpM >  Nonpaged Dynamic Memory        1906176      113280     1792896       32960DM >  Paged Dynamic Memory            958976      649360      309616      648624e > M >Paging File Usage (pages):                      Free  Reservable       TotalPM >  DISK$PEDALS:[SYS0.SYSEXE]SWAPFILE.SYS         5944        5944        7504sM >  DISK$PEDALS:[SYS0.SYSEXE]PAGEFILE.SYS        71738       42309       75000eM >  DISK$PEDALS:[SYS0.SYSEXE]PAGEFILE2.SYS;2     81520       64754       99992p >eO >Of the physical pages in use, 9439 pages are permanently allocated to OpenVMS.- >$ spawn# >%SYSTEM-F-NOSLOT, no PCB available0 >$   ------------------------------  % Date: Thu, 12 Apr 2001 10:40:10 -0400l8 From: "Island Computers US Corp" <dbturner@islandco.com>, Subject: Online Parts Database now working !/ Message-ID: <tdbfgucqgian6d@news.supernews.com>t  1 Look up part numbers by description or vice-versal   www.islandco.com   -- Island Computers US CorporationC 2700 Gregory Streeto	 Suite 150i Savannah GA 31404. Tel: 912 447 6622n Fax: 912 201 0096o sales@islandco.com www.islandco.com  C This message and any files transmitted with it are confidential andfJ may be privileged and/or subject to the provisions of privacy legislation.H They are intended solely for the use of the individual or entity to whomE they are addressed. If the reader of this message is not the intendedc
 recipient,G please notify Island Computers US Corp immediately and then delete this. message.I You are notified that reliance on, disclosure of, distribution or copyinge of this message is prohibited.   ------------------------------   Date: 12 Apr 2001 09:13:04 GMT  From: tamo_nakamura@yahoo.com.au Subject: Open 3d and Hobbist* Message-ID: <9b3rj0$fi2$1@news.netmar.com>  
 Dear Readers,g  @ I have a 500au alpha and I have just purchased a Powerstorm 4d206 graphics card.  I have the hobbyist license for VMS.    9 I have only installed the follwing licences as I have to n type the licences in..
 OPENVMS-ALPHA  DW-MOTIF  ; A console level I see that the card is a Digital TGA2 card.f2 In the SDA > clue config I get GYA: ZLX2-E (TGA2).  E When I try to run opengl @sys$test:gl_IVP I get in the operator log. a? %License-e-noauth DEC Open3d use is not authorized on this nodes  C I still get the No OpenGL extension on display, that I was getting 0 with the old Elsa Gloria card.  < When I run sys$system:xglinfo I donot see the GLX Extension. GLX Extension: NONEa  ( DEC windows Motif works okay -I think.    M I have just installed the kits for 7.2-1 without any configuration/editing ifg the set-up.s  = Is OPEN3d included in hobbyist licences.  If so which licenced: do I need?  Or do I need to do something to enable Open3d.   Thanks  
 Tamo Nakamurab          O  -----  Posted via NewsOne.Net: Free (anonymous) Usenet News via the Web  ----- M   http://newsone.net/ -- Free reading and anonymous posting to 60,000+ groups I    NewsOne.Net prohibits users from posting spam.  If this or other posts L made through NewsOne.Net violate posting guidelines, email abuse@newsone.net   ------------------------------  % Date: Thu, 12 Apr 2001 12:20:10 -0400 8 From: "Island Computers US Corp" <dbturner@islandco.com>  Subject: Re: Open 3d and Hobbist/ Message-ID: <tdblca3gmafvd9@news.supernews.com>p  " I don't believe Open3D is included  : You can look up the PN via description at www.islandco.com DT   -- Island Computers US Corporationa 2700 Gregory Street 	 Suite 150F Savannah GA 31404" Tel: 912 447 6622a Fax: 912 201 0096D sales@islandco.com www.islandco.com  C This message and any files transmitted with it are confidential and J may be privileged and/or subject to the provisions of privacy legislation.H They are intended solely for the use of the individual or entity to whomE they are addressed. If the reader of this message is not the intendedg
 recipient,G please notify Island Computers US Corp immediately and then delete this  message.I You are notified that reliance on, disclosure of, distribution or copyingn of this message is prohibited.    - <tamo_nakamura@yahoo.com.au> wrote in messageh$ news:9b3rj0$fi2$1@news.netmar.com... > Dear Readers,e >.B > I have a 500au alpha and I have just purchased a Powerstorm 4d206 > graphics card.  I have the hobbyist license for VMS. >t: > I have only installed the follwing licences as I have to > type the licences in.. > OPENVMS-ALPHAr
 > DW-MOTIF >h= > A console level I see that the card is a Digital TGA2 card.n4 > In the SDA > clue config I get GYA: ZLX2-E (TGA2). >sF > When I try to run opengl @sys$test:gl_IVP I get in the operator log.A > %License-e-noauth DEC Open3d use is not authorized on this noden >hD > I still get the No OpenGL extension on display, that I was getting  > with the old Elsa Gloria card. >I> > When I run sys$system:xglinfo I donot see the GLX Extension. > GLX Extension: NONEy >e( > DEC windows Motif works okay -I think. >iL > I have just installed the kits for 7.2-1 without any configuration/editing if
 > the set-up.n >.? > Is OPEN3d included in hobbyist licences.  If so which licenceI< > do I need?  Or do I need to do something to enable Open3d. >C > Thanks >  > Tamo Nakamura  >  >c >m >w > F >  -----  Posted via NewsOne.Net: Free (anonymous) Usenet News via the	 eb  ----- H >   http://newsone.net/ -- Free reading and anonymous posting to 60,000+ groupsK >    NewsOne.Net prohibits users from posting spam.  If this or other postsa< > made through NewsOne.Net violate posting guidelines, email abuse@newsone.netw   ------------------------------  # Date: Thu, 12 Apr 2001 17:40:21 GMT * From: Sean O'Banion <seanobanion@home.com>B Subject: OpenVMS 7.2-2 and Oracle 8.1.7 - Unsupported combination?( Message-ID: <3AD5E88B.DB22C79C@home.com>  G There have been some independent statements from Compaq and Oracle thati+ seem to lead us into a difficult situation:   H Compaq: Support of VMS 7.2-1 will end at the end of 2001, and 7.2-2 will be the supported level of 7.2.  8 Oracle: Oracle 8.1.7 will NOT be certified on VMS 7.2-2.  F Us: We must decide by next week (you don't really want to know why) ifG we are going to upgrade from Oracle 7.3.x.x to 8.1.7 by the end of thistG year.  Since the 7.2-2 kit will not be released for a couple of months,tG there is no way we can evaluate how serious the changes are, or be able ; to determine the risk of running Oracle 8.1.7 on VMS 7.2-2./    ( Does anybody know what the situation is?3 Are the groups in VMS and Oracle talking this over?      Sean   ------------------------------  % Date: Thu, 12 Apr 2001 17:00:52 +0100   From: Paul Sture <paul@sture.ch>? Subject: Re: OpenVMS Frequently Asked Questions (FAQ), Part 3/5l+ Message-ID: <VA.0000034c.073c26bc@sture.ch>/  < In article <3AD4803D.393E1EBB@hsc.vcu.edu>, Jim Agnew wrote:% > From: Jim Agnew <Agnew@hsc.vcu.edu>h > Newsgroups: comp.os.vms0A > Subject: Re: OpenVMS Frequently Asked Questions (FAQ), Part 3/5a' > Date: Wed, 11 Apr 2001 12:03:09 -0400D > Q > HMM..  Maybe the person in question could up grade their brain OS to WindowsTP,aD > Windows Telepath, documented in rec.humor.funny's home page... ;-) > B Adopting that naming convention, Windows XP could easily stand for  Windows eXtended Psychopath. :-) ___ 
 Paul Sture Switzerlanda   ------------------------------  % Date: Thu, 12 Apr 2001 17:29:09 +0100.  From: Paul Sture <paul@sture.ch>? Subject: Re: OpenVMS Frequently Asked Questions (FAQ), Part 3/5 + Message-ID: <VA.0000034f.075609ce@sture.ch>p  F In article <3X_A6.786$fB6.19929@news.cpqcorp.net>, Hoff Hoffman wrote:   [snip]  J >   More seriously, I wanted to get a copy of the OpenVMS FAQ updated for J >   inclusion onto the OpenVMS Freeware release, and "found" a few cycles I >   (too few, in retrospect) to apply the accumulated updates to the FAQ.e  M And Part 1 - INTRO8. contains a reference to Bill Heil. That should now read Z Howard Elias, nicht wahr?. ___.
 Paul Sture Switzerlando   ------------------------------  # Date: Thu, 12 Apr 2001 11:45:32 GMT ' From: smf@lbsltd.co.uk (Steve Freegard).2 Subject: Problems with CSWS and CGI-BIN on TCPWARE2 Message-ID: <3ad59193.1387130207@news.netserv.net>   Hi all,E  F I've just installed CSWS 1.0-1 onto our cluster (running VMS 7.2-1 and TCPWARE 5.4-3).e  A Static pages work fine but trying to run any CGI results in a 500 % Internal Server error on the browser.   F I've done a DEFINE/SYSTEM/EXE TCPIP$SERVICE UCX$SERVICE as recommended@ to others on this list, but that doesn't work either.  The error5 message in the ERROR_LOG. file is slightly different:o  D 11-Apr-2001 14:41:11 [20835861] GENERIC_SOCKETPAIR_inet: bind() - 49E [Wed Apr 11 14:41:11 2001] [error] [client 10.2.0.1] (49)can't assigne1 requested address : couldn't spawn child process:r% /apache$root/cgi-bin/test-cgi-vms.comi   Anyone have any suggestions??    Regards,       Steve Freegard Systems Managero  Littlehampton Book Services Ltd. DDI: +44 1903 858594   ------------------------------    Date: 12 Apr 2001 18:53:03 +0800, From: Paul Repacholi <prep@prep.synonet.com>< Subject: Re: Q: Converting a VAX 6000-420 to a VAX 6000-620?- Message-ID: <87vgoafkz4.fsf@prep.synonet.com>-  - "antonio.carlini" <arcarlini@iee.org> writes:m  ( > The *easy* route is to pick up a T20190 > from ebay or wherever. Make sure it comes with, > the (blue?) powerbus cabling. The T2019 is* > an XMI module like any other XMI module,- > except it sits in slot 2 and blocks slot 1.,  A The 'blue bits' are not cables. They are sheet metal power buses,o that go from the 5V to slot 1/2t   -- d< Paul Repacholi                               1 Crescent Rd.,7 +61 (08) 9257-1001                           Kalamunda.p@                                              West Australia 6076. Raw, Cooked or Well-done, it's all half baked.   ------------------------------  % Date: Thu, 12 Apr 2001 08:43:02 -0400o  From: norm.raphael@jamesbury.com! Subject: Q: Status of SOAP on VMSn4 Message-ID: <C2256A2C.0044FFD3.00@jklh21.valmet.com>  * Ask the Wizard:  XML/SOAP on OpenVMS says:? "Compaq OpenVMS Engineering is aware of and is looking at SOAP.t< (XML is included in OpenVMS V7.3, currently in field test.)"  / That's all it says, and the answer is pre-2001.   F Is there any better information available.  Has the "looking" produced  E any game plan?  What are the prospects for this?  Is there any useful    speculation as to a timeframe?   ------------------------------  % Date: Thu, 12 Apr 2001 14:46:10 +0530s- From: sanjay kumar <sanjay@jsr.tatasteel.com>4 Subject: regarding  soft error1 Message-ID: <001301c0c331$37556110$5a00008f@wrm6>n  , This is a multi-part message in MIME format.  + ------=_NextPart_000_0010_01C0C35F.508EA910i+ Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printablee Content-Type: text/plain;n 	charset="iso-8859-1"    Dear managers=20      H I have one system alpha 1000A Which has installed raid 1 through swxcr =* controller, now i am facing one problem=205 in my system, I got 3 soft error in one logical disk.fG so pls tell me what is soft error and why this is coming also tell me =V how to clear the soft error.     thankr sanjay kumar tata steel.n jamshedpur.t    + ------=_NextPart_000_0010_01C0C35F.508EA910r+ Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printablec Content-Type: text/html; 	charset="iso-8859-1"t  > <!DOCTYPE HTML PUBLIC "-//W3C//DTD HTML 4.0 Transitional//EN"> <HTML><HEAD>3 <META content=3D"text/html; charset=3Diso-8859-1" => http-equiv=3DContent-Type>9 <META content=3D"MSHTML 5.00.2314.1000" name=3DGENERATOR>a <STYLE></STYLE>0 </HEAD>0 <BODY bgColor=3D#ffffff>< <DIV><FONT face=3DArial size=3D2>Dear managers </FONT></DIV> <DIV>&nbsp;</DIV>  <DIV>&nbsp;</DIV>7 <DIV>&nbsp;</DIV>nJ <DIV><FONT face=3DArial size=3D2>I have one system alpha 1000A Which has = installed=20> raid 1 through swxcr controller, now i am facing one problem =
 </FONT></DIV>oJ <DIV><FONT face=3DArial size=3D2>in my system, I got 3 soft error in one =
 logical=20 disk.</FONT></DIV>H <DIV><FONT face=3DArial size=3D2>so pls tell me what is soft error and = why this is=20= coming also tell me how to clear the soft error.</FONT></DIV>  <DIV>&nbsp;</DIV>r <DIV>&nbsp;</DIV> 3 <DIV><FONT face=3DArial size=3D2>thank</FONT></DIV>u: <DIV><FONT face=3DArial size=3D2>sanjay kumar</FONT></DIV>9 <DIV><FONT face=3DArial size=3D2>tata steel.</FONT></DIV>o9 <DIV><FONT face=3DArial size=3D2>jamshedpur.</FONT></DIV>o <DIV>&nbsp;</DIV></BODY></HTML>g  - ------=_NextPart_000_0010_01C0C35F.508EA910--    ------------------------------  % Date: Thu, 12 Apr 2001 11:43:11 +0100.5 From: "Steeples, Oliver" <Oliver.Steeples@Compaq.com> " Subject: RE: regarding  soft errorN Message-ID: <F498D199EDB12D468CD2C66680D308018B13A9@reoexc04.emea.cpqcorp.net>   Hi,0E     a soft error on a swxcr is a recovered error.  The disk has had a L problem and basically recovered the block in question.  If it was bad a hard@ error would have been logged indictating an unrecovered error.     I Soft errors normally clear themselves on a write to the disk, but if it's + annoying then a backup/restore can be done.a  (J It's probably worth trying to find out which physical disk has the problemK amd keeping an eye on it.  And get a backup just incase, especially if it's  a stripeset.    Regards,     *     Oliver    (too clever to be a manager)   -----Original Message-----4 From: sanjay kumar [mailto:sanjay@jsr.tatasteel.com]' Sent: Thursday, April 12, 2001 10:16 AM  To: Info-VAX@Mvb.Saic.Come Subject: regarding soft error9     Dear managers   6      F I have one system alpha 1000A Which has installed raid 1 through swxcr( controller, now i am facing one problem 5 in my system, I got 3 soft error in one logical disk.IL so pls tell me what is soft error and why this is coming also tell me how to clear the soft error.P  F  2 thank  sanjay kumar tata steel.9 jamshedpur.e  y   ------------------------------  % Date: Thu, 12 Apr 2001 10:46:02 -0400w% From: "Brian Tillman" <tillman_brian> F Subject: Re: Rumour Has It That CHARLIE MATCO HAS RISEN FROM THE GRAVE" Message-ID: <3ad5bffa@news.si.com>  D >But I haven't seen a VAX in more than a decade. When the flock wake/ >up to alternatives the tide turns pretty fast!1  K Then you haven't stopped by our data center.  We have three VAX 4000-505As,AK two VAX 7000-30s, and two VAX 4000-305s.  We have them because THE SOFTWARE.I WE RUN DOESN'T EXIST FOR THE ALPHA.  Vendors WON'T PORT!!  Get it??  WhatgF does it matter if the Alpha were to run at 3 THz?  If the applications, aren't there, the CPU isn't either.  Period.  L (We also have scads of MV 3600, 3800, VS 3100, VS 4000, and a half-dozen VAX	 11-725s.)g --A Brian Tillman                   Internet: tillman_brian at si.comNA Smiths Aerospace                          tillman at swdev.si.comv= 3290 Patterson Ave. SE, MS      Addresses modified to prevent < Grand Rapids, MI 49512-1991     SPAM.  Replace "at" with "@"8        This opinion doesn't represent that of my company   ------------------------------  # Date: Thu, 12 Apr 2001 15:42:13 GMTM4 From: "Terry C. Shannon" <terryshannon@mediaone.net>F Subject: Re: Rumour Has It That CHARLIE MATCO HAS RISEN FROM THE GRAVE< Message-ID: <p1kB6.8496$%_1.1832925@typhoon.ne.mediaone.net>  F > >But I haven't seen a VAX in more than a decade. When the flock wake1 > >up to alternatives the tide turns pretty fast!O  K Compaq maintains that there are still close to 200K VAXen alive and well inu the installed base.o   ------------------------------  % Date: Thu, 12 Apr 2001 12:28:15 +0100g- From: Tim Llewellyn <tim.llewellyn@bbc.co.uk>  Subject: Re: Silent Sunu) Message-ID: <3AD5914F.BC596C25@bbc.co.uk>i   Paul Repacholi wrote:   4 > andrew harrison <andrew.nospam@uk.sun.com> writes: >oD > > Given Compaqs tendency to ignore OpenVMS completely do you thinkF > > that they are refering to all their ftp services on all their OS'sF > > in this response. Or are they as is generally the case refering to
 > > Tru64. >oD > Andrew, get a clue. Even *IF* the VMS TCP v5 ftp server was totalyJ > stuffed and rortable, all they would get is a very cripled user account. >2  D Good point, Paul, however I have seen privs granted to the anonymousK ftp account to fix access problems :-(. Not nice, but it happens. SometimesFB people have no time, knowledge or incentive to fix stuff properly.   --6 Tim Llewellyn, OpenVMS Infrastructure, Remarcs Project0 MedAS at the BBC, Whiteladies Road, Bristol, UK.A Email tim.llewellyn@bbc.co.uk. Home tim.llewellyn@cableinet.co.uk   A I speak for myself only and my views in no way represent those of  MedAS or the BBC.4   ------------------------------    Date: 12 Apr 2001 08:19:32 -0500- From: koehler@encompasserve.org (Bob Koehler)S Subject: Re: Silent Sun 3 Message-ID: <3CYVQ$SkdZv0@eisner.encompasserve.org>p  ] In article <3AD48272.730E901E@uk.sun.com>, andrew harrison <andrew.nospam@uk.sun.com> writes:C > 8 > Given Compaqs tendency to ignore OpenVMS completely do4 > you think that they are refering to all their ftp 5 > services on all their OS's in this response. Or aret2 > they as is generally the case refering to Tru64.  H As you are so fond of pointing out:  Tru64, UCX, same stack.  Or did you2 expect all the PC vendors to be responding for MS?  F ----------------------------------------------------------------------? Bob Koehler                     | Computer Sciences Corporationm= NASA GSFC Flight Software       | Federal Sector, Civil GrouptE                                 | please remove ".aspm" when replying    ------------------------------    Date: 12 Apr 2001 10:01:54 +0200G From: Jan Vorbrueggen <jan@mailhost.neuroinformatik.ruhr-uni-bochum.de>t Subject: Re: SMP_SPINWAIT H Message-ID: <y4d7aizgul.fsf@mailhost.neuroinformatik.ruhr-uni-bochum.de>  L No, you are all getting your maths wrong. The default seems to be 10^5 timesG 10^-8 seconds, or 10^-3 seconds, or one millisecond. The recommendation  increases it be a factor of 3.   	Jan   ------------------------------  % Date: Thu, 12 Apr 2001 13:03:45 +0100$  From: steven.reece@quintiles.com Subject: Re: SMP_SPINWAITpH Message-ID: <OF6466DE92.C86F6031-ON80256A2C.0041B0F3@qedi.quintiles.com>  7 I think you may have a few too many decimal places Jan.o micro = 1x10^-6s= therefore 100000 microseconds = 100 milliseconds = 0.1 second K I do agree that the help file and the units are (perhaps) not quite in synccE since the current and default variables would appear to be the actuale% values and not multiples of the unit.  Steve.   Jan Vorbrueggen wrote:I >>>No, you are all getting your maths wrong. The default seems to be 10^5s timeshG 10^-8 seconds, or 10^-3 seconds, or one millisecond. The recommendatione increases it be a factor of 3. <<<o   ------------------------------    Date: 12 Apr 2001 18:44:51 +0200G From: Jan Vorbrueggen <jan@mailhost.neuroinformatik.ruhr-uni-bochum.de>i Subject: Re: SMP_SPINWAITOH Message-ID: <y4r8yyjce4.fsf@mailhost.neuroinformatik.ruhr-uni-bochum.de>  " steven.reece@quintiles.com writes:  9 > I think you may have a few too many decimal places Jan.v > micro = 1x10^-6e  I Yes, but the unit is 10 microseconds, so the default spinwait is actuallyeM a full second! I couldn't believe that, so I put in three orders of magnitudef to make myself feel better 8-|.e   	Jan   ------------------------------    Date: 12 Apr 2001 08:55:34 -0500+ From: young_r@encompasserve.org (Rob Young)  Subject: Re: SMP_SPINWAIT03 Message-ID: <OFxOEZYJE4lT@eisner.encompasserve.org>r   In article <y4d7aizgul.fsf@mailhost.neuroinformatik.ruhr-uni-bochum.de>, Jan Vorbrueggen <jan@mailhost.neuroinformatik.ruhr-uni-bochum.de> writes:N > No, you are all getting your maths wrong. The default seems to be 10^5 timesI > 10^-8 seconds, or 10^-3 seconds, or one millisecond. The recommendation2  > increases it be a factor of 3. >   : 	But they are 10 us units.... and I goofed again.  Sheesh.   	Seems Ed did the right thing.  < 	If you use the default setting of 100000 units, which makes7 	for 1000000 us, that is 1 second or 1000 milliseconds.o   				Robi 	l   ------------------------------  % Date: Thu, 12 Apr 2001 13:29:10 +0100t% From: Alan Greig <a.greig@virgin.net>fH Subject: Re: SMP_SPINWAIT - is the tip in OpenVMS Times correct and why?8 Message-ID: <1a7bdt49vl6etcpgiatfp0h0k47tai7jrq@4ax.com>  / On Wed, 11 Apr 2001 23:13:38 -0400, "Mark Buda" ) <buda@tabasco.zko.dec.no.spam.com> wrote:g  
 >SMP_SPINWAITi >@E >SMP_SPINWAIT establishes, in 10-microsecond intervals, the amount ofhB >time a CPU in an SMP system normally waits for access to a shared. >resource. This process is called spinwaiting. >e) >A timeout causes a CPUSPINWAIT bugcheck.e >eI >The default value is 100 milliseconds (10,000 10-microsecond intervals).h  E Yes this is what the documentation says but with no other explanationAE OpenVMS Times says to triple the default on an SMP system. If this is ? really cast iron advice then why does autogen not set this? Or,u" indeed, why is it not the default?  E Then Ed points out below that the only article he can find in DSNLinkoE seems to suggest this may not be good advice. While the Tech Tips areh= a nice feature I feel not enough information is given in thisi& particular case to inspire confidence.  8 The tip is credited to Guy Peleg. I am going to guess at> guy.peleg@compaq.com and cc this post there and see if I get a	 response.f   Alan > - mark >  >I. ><jamese@beast.dtsw.army.mil> wrote in message+ >news:01041112581666@beast.dtsw.army.mil... 	 >> Hello,w >>6 >> I received this URL to the new OpenVMS Times today:8 >> http://www.openvms.compaq.com/openvmstimes/index.html >>7 >> In it there is an "OpenVMS Tech Tips" box that says:w >>< >>     If your Alpha system has more than one CPU, make sure6 >>     SYSGEN parameter SMP_SPINWAIT is set to 3000000 >>' >>     -- Guy Peleg, OpenVMS Ambassador- >> >> Well, I am running: >>/ >>     AlphaServer 4000 5/400 4MB VMS  V7.1-1H1a >>
 >> which has:  >>H >> Parameter Name         Current    Default     Min.      Max.     Unit >DynamicI >> --------------         -------    -------    -------   -------   ---- m >-------E >> SMP_SPINWAIT             100000     100000         1    8388607 10p >usec. >>C >> The only references to SMP_SPINWAIT I can find in DSNLINK are inv >releaseI >> notes for versions 6.2 and later.  They describe a problem if you have C >> an SMP system with CIPCA adapters and say to set SMP_SPINWAIT toi >300000.. >> This is a standalone system without CIPCAs. >>: >> Does anyone have any other information on SMP_SPINWAIT? >> >> Thank you very much,a >>= >> Ed James                           ed.james@telecomsys.comr8 >> TeleCommunications Systems, Inc.   voice 410-295-1919> >> 2024 West Street, Suite 300              800-810-0827 x19198 >> Annapolis, MD 21401-3556           fax   410-280-1094 >>   -- Alan   ------------------------------  % Date: Thu, 12 Apr 2001 15:04:20 +0100>* From: "Richard Brodie" <R.Brodie@rl.ac.uk>H Subject: Re: SMP_SPINWAIT - is the tip in OpenVMS Times correct and why?, Message-ID: <9b4clp$1f6k@newton.cc.rl.ac.uk>  2 "Alan Greig" <a.greig@virgin.net> wrote in message2 news:1a7bdt49vl6etcpgiatfp0h0k47tai7jrq@4ax.com...  G > Yes this is what the documentation says but with no other explanation0G > OpenVMS Times says to triple the default on an SMP system. If this isbA > really cast iron advice then why does autogen not set this? Or,.$ > indeed, why is it not the default?  N It's hard to see the downside of increasing it moderately, given that it's theG amount of time to wait before you decide the system is FUBAR and crash.-I You trade a small chance of having the system crash when it wasn't reallycA hung, against an extra 0.2ms of delay before you failover/reboot.    ------------------------------  % Date: Thu, 12 Apr 2001 10:51:26 +0100.+ From: "shielm00" <Mike_Shield-1@sbphrd.com> < Subject: Re: Solaris tmpfs (was Re: VMS-Related: Affordable)2 Message-ID: <9b3tph$9fu$1@phunn2.um.us.sbphrd.com>  ? "Robert Deininger" <rdeininger@mindspring.com> wrote in messagerF news:rdeininger-1204010055090001@user-2ive63a.dialup.mindspring.com...5 > In article <sjDaVOb2EaLH@eisner.encompasserve.org>, . > young_r@encompasserve.org (Rob Young) wrote: >S >e > >t > >         Do I get a do over?- > >-0 > >         If you check out slide 50 , you see: > >b: > >                 "Mixing Decram and non-Decram devices" > >-> > >                 Can be shadowed but it remains unsupported > > 9 > >                 Will be supported in a future release  > >iG > >         Since 7.3 is "almost soup", is that what we are looking at?o >n >yG > I just installed DECram on a couple of nodes this evening, and took anL > quick trip through the docs.  It definitely tells how to shadow  RAM disksK > and regular disks, and gives examples of when it might be appropriate.  I H > haven't tried it myself; I don't have a system with as much RAM as its > smallest disk.   Robert,W  I I don't know the size of disk you have, or if you have HS* controllers toe7 play with, but here's an idea that you might play with.c  K I've been trying to get Write back cache solutions sanctioned by Oracle fortI our customer (seems a long way from the subject but stay with it, it gets1I worse) and have made inquires regarding the setup of  the Trucluster ES40+K based Oracle Parallel Server solution that is offered by Compaq as a singleg part number.  J A kind member of European Custom systems has provided the disk layout, andI some of the thinking behind it, which is quite interesting. Hasn't as yetpL helped with the WBC issue, but there was something else that could be useful to you.i  J A V5.* Trucluster needs a minimum number of drives to allow it to form a 2E member cluster, and in the tests we've been doing each drive has beena6 allocated on a one to one basis with a physical drive.  K This is a little excessive, especially if your using large volumes, but the6L solution employed was to mirror two large drives and then partition them andG present them as units on the controller. This saves you wasting a 36 gbs drive as a quorum disk.-  H The point, with some juggling, you should be able to present a partitionD that is matched in size to your DECram drive, and hence shadow away.   Mike Shield0 Compaq SMO GSK     >.A > The are cautions about being up-to-date with shadowing patches.  >iI > I don't recall exactly what it said about actual support of mixed-media7 > shadowing. >f >dK > Slight shift in topic:  does anyone know why DECram insists on installingbG > itself in the system-specific directories instead of the common ones??K > It's a waste of time to repeat the installation once per node, and wastes F > some space.  Worse, I've had a Very Bad Experience when I created anK > MSCP-served RAM disk on one node (unit number > 999) when some satellitesgF > in the cluster didn't have DECram installed.  Basically, the clusterK > exploded.  Some nodes hung, some crashed, and some went into reboot-crash1J > loops.  I've not had a spare cluster to repeat the experiement.  If thisI > is repeatable, it means you mustn't add a satellite to a cluster if anyeJ > node has ever created a served RAM disk since boot time.  There seems to; > be no way to install DECram before booting the satellite.r >iB > The only file I've found that _needs_ to be node-specific is theF > DECRAM$RECOVER file.  The others are read-only, exact copies of each > other. >a! > Almost as annoying as DECevent.- >e > -- > Robert Deininger > rdeininger@mindspring.comc   ------------------------------  % Date: Thu, 12 Apr 2001 10:44:20 +0200 > From: "Jean-Francois Marchal" <jean-francois.marchal@x9000.fr>@ Subject: Re: strange behaviour of DIRECTORY with long file names. Message-ID: <9b3pnt$got$1@reader1.imaginet.fr>  K "David Beatty" <David.Beatty@sasSPAMITUPTHEZZZ.com> a crit dans le messageg- news: hUvUOjdIAbXeIBaVXhILeA6inphl@4ax.com...3 >D9 > I was suggesting the same as Hoff -- his reply and mine<% > were posted at about the same time.f >= > Four possibilities:  > 8 >     1.  Does DSA2: have a translation?  I would assumeG >          that it probably doesn't, but you might want to look anyway.<  &     DSA2 has no translation. (checked)    > >     2.  Any cross-linked directories, like you would find onC >          the system disk?  You might be able to find out by doing ; >          a DIR _DSA2:[000000...] /FILE_ID/OUTPUT=file and/ >          scanning the file.r       NO (checked)    5 >     3.  The disk or directory structure is corrupt.V  .     will backup the structure to another disk,+     see whether the problem is still there,t?     and try to repair the directory on that non production disk/    , >     4.  You've found a "feature" of ODS-5.  ?     Would be a nice feature ;-), maybe occuring only when using-6     french file names ! Remembers me LOLA (french VMS)     > David R. Beatty" >l= > On Tue, 10 Apr 2001 21:57:39 +0200, "Jean-Francois Marchal" ) > <jean-francois.marchal@x9000.fr> wrote:0 >1: > >Sorry .. I do not understand what you are suggesting .. > >cB > >X9000$CUS has only one translation, and DSA2 on which it relies; > >is the name of the disk, without any synomym anywhere ..  > > F > >"David Beatty" <David.Beatty@sasSPAMITUPTHEZZZ.com> a crit dans le messagee0 > >news: NGHTOrgvE4QMsuyjw0uw37qYnYto@4ax.com... > >>/ > >> Make that first and third translations ...s > >>5 > >> On Tue, 10 Apr 2001 14:39:53 -0400, David Beattye0 > >> <David.Beatty@sasSPAMITUPTHEZZZ.com> wrote: > >> > >> >; > >> >How about a SHOW LOGICAL X9000$CUS/FULL ?  Looks like K > >> >the logical has three translations, the second and third of which area > >> >concealed. > >> > > >> >David R. Beattyt > >> >A > >> >On Tue, 10 Apr 2001 19:57:26 +0200, "Jean-Francois Marchal"r- > >> ><jean-francois.marchal@x9000.fr> wrote:  > >> >E > >> >>I tried to create some long file names to test an application.o > >> >>Created 3 files ...3 > >> >>What I get after that is pretty strange ....o/ > >> >>For what reason do I see 3 directories ?n > >> >>s > >> >>g > >> >>$ sh def " > >> >>  x9000$cus:[infotel.files] > >> >>$ dir *.dir( > >> >>%DIRECT-W-NOFILES, no files found > >> >>$ > >> >>$ dir > >> >> * > >> >>Directory X9000$CUS:[Infotel.files] > >> >>n > >> >>n > >>J >>Ceci_est_un_exemple_de_fichier_comportant^_toutes_sortes_de_caractres_a > >>J >>ccentus_et_spciaux^.dans_son_nom_^&_dans_son_extension_permis_par_la.a > >>J >>vec_un_MAXIMUM--DE--254_caractres__sans_compter_tous_les_ > >> >>autres_a;1d > >> >>a > >> >>Total of 1 file.  > >> >>51 > >> >>Directory DSA2:[X9000.CUS.][Infotel.files]e > >> >>m > >> >>T > >>J >>Ceci_est_un_exemple_de_fichier_comport~[52466,7,0].avec_un_MAXIMUM--DE--E > >> >>254_caractres__sans_compter_tous_les_autres_a;1c > >> >>r > >>J >>Ceci_est_un_exemple_de_fichier_comport~[52467,6,0].avec_un_MAXIMUM--DE--E > >> >>254_caractres__sans_compter_tous_les_autres__;1  > >> >>  > >> >>Total of 2 files. > >> >>s* > >> >>Directory X9000$CUS:[Infotel.files] > >> >>lI > >> >>create_relative.txt;1                   create_relative_file.com;2 @ > >> >>DECC$CRTL.OLB;3     DECC$RTLDEF.TLB;3   LMF$LICENSE.LDB;1< > >> >>rmsrel1.EXE;1       rmsrel1.for;3       rmsrel1.OBJ;11 > >> >>rudy.dat;1          tcpip$ftp_server.bck;1  > >> >>VMS$LAYERED.DAT;1 > >> >>y > >> >>Total of 11 files.m > >> >>e. > >> >>Grand total of 3 directories, 14 files. > >> >>$ > >> >>E > >> >>e > >> > >p >6   ------------------------------  % Date: Thu, 12 Apr 2001 11:21:26 +0200n> From: "Jean-Francois Marchal" <jean-francois.marchal@x9000.fr>@ Subject: Re: strange behaviour of DIRECTORY with long file names. Message-ID: <9b3rtf$hf0$1@reader1.imaginet.fr>  H "Jean-Francois Marchal" <jean-francois.marchal@x9000.fr> a crit dans le1 message news: 9b3pnt$got$1@reader1.imaginet.fr...n >cE > "David Beatty" <David.Beatty@sasSPAMITUPTHEZZZ.com> a crit dans lec message / > news: hUvUOjdIAbXeIBaVXhILeA6inphl@4ax.com...e > >p; > > I was suggesting the same as Hoff -- his reply and mineo' > > were posted at about the same time.h > >e > > Four possibilities:i > > 7 > >     3.  The disk or directory structure is corrupt.t > 0 >     will backup the structure to another disk,- >     see whether the problem is still there, A >     and try to repair the directory on that non production diskt >   I After backup on an alternate disk, the embedded ~[x,y,z] have disappearedvG from the file names but the strange [a,b,c] directory is still listed .iG Any file copied to the files directory is shown at the end of the list,v like empty.tmp.o  D Does anybody have an idea on how to debug the directory corruption ? Here is the list I get ...   $ dir [...] /file_id   Directory DQA0:[TEST].   files.DIR;1          (189,1,0)   Total of 1 file.   Directory DQA0:[TEST.files]y    F Ceci_est_un_exemple_de_fichier_comportant^_toutes_sortes_de_caractresF _accentus_et_spciaux^.dans_son_nom_^&_dans_son_extension_permis_par_F la.avec_un_MAXIMUM--DE--254_caractres__sans_compter_tou s_les_autres_a;1                      (190,1,0)   Total of 1 file.   Directory DQA0:[189,1,0]    F Ceci_est_un_exemple_de_fichier_comportant^_toutes_sortes_de_caractresF _accentus_et_spciaux^.dans_son_nom_^&_dans_son_extension_permis_par_F la_structure_ODS5.avec_un_MAXIMUM--DE--254_caractres__s ans_compter_tous_les_autres_a;1a                      (191,1,0)  F Ceci_est_un_exemple_de_fichier_comportant^_toutes_sortes_de_caractresF _accentus_et_spciaux^.dans_son_nom_^&_dans_son_extension_permis_par_F la_structure_ODS5.avec_un_MAXIMUM--DE--254_caractres__s ans_compter_tous_les_autres__;1                       (192,1,0)   Total of 2 files.    Directory DQA0:[TEST.files]    empty.tmp;1          (193,2,0)   Total of 1 file.  & Grand total of 4 directories, 5 files. $      ------------------------------  % Date: Thu, 12 Apr 2001 10:23:58 +0100:% From: Alan Greig <a.greig@virgin.net>.@ Subject: Re: strange behaviour of DIRECTORY with long file names8 Message-ID: <1ssadt4278s57mhldfe9894e880nq7al5e@4ax.com>  0 On Wed, 11 Apr 2001 08:23:06 -0400, David Beatty+ <David.Beatty@sasSPAMITUPTHEZZZ.com> wrote:     + >    4.  You've found a "feature" of ODS-5.-  B I've seen the same behaviour reported with NFS mounted devices. NoB funny logicals, just funny file names, Result can be the directory= appears split. This thread has just reminded me I intended to F investigate further but forgot and never re-encountered the situation.8 I'll go digging and see if I can find a current example.   >t >David R. Beatty > < >On Tue, 10 Apr 2001 21:57:39 +0200, "Jean-Francois Marchal"( ><jean-francois.marchal@x9000.fr> wrote: >a9 >>Sorry .. I do not understand what you are suggesting ..a >>A >>X9000$CUS has only one translation, and DSA2 on which it reliesd: >>is the name of the disk, without any synomym anywhere .. >>M >>"David Beatty" <David.Beatty@sasSPAMITUPTHEZZZ.com> a crit dans le messageo/ >>news: NGHTOrgvE4QMsuyjw0uw37qYnYto@4ax.com...r >>> . >>> Make that first and third translations ... >>>e4 >>> On Tue, 10 Apr 2001 14:39:53 -0400, David Beatty/ >>> <David.Beatty@sasSPAMITUPTHEZZZ.com> wrote:u >>>o >>> >r: >>> >How about a SHOW LOGICAL X9000$CUS/FULL ?  Looks likeJ >>> >the logical has three translations, the second and third of which are >>> >concealed.e >>> >s >>> >David R. Beatty >>> >u@ >>> >On Tue, 10 Apr 2001 19:57:26 +0200, "Jean-Francois Marchal", >>> ><jean-francois.marchal@x9000.fr> wrote: >>> >fD >>> >>I tried to create some long file names to test an application. >>> >>Created 3 files ... 2 >>> >>What I get after that is pretty strange ..... >>> >>For what reason do I see 3 directories ? >>> >> >>> >> >>> >>$ sh def! >>> >>  x9000$cus:[infotel.files]e >>> >>$ dir *.diru' >>> >>%DIRECT-W-NOFILES, no files foundo >>> >>$n >>> >>$ dir- >>> >>) >>> >>Directory X9000$CUS:[Infotel.files]o >>> >> >>> >>N >>> >>Ceci_est_un_exemple_de_fichier_comportant^_toutes_sortes_de_caractres_aN >>> >>ccentus_et_spciaux^.dans_son_nom_^&_dans_son_extension_permis_par_la.aN >>> >>vec_un_MAXIMUM--DE--254_caractres__sans_compter_tous_les_ >>> >>autres_a;1 >>> >> >>> >>Total of 1 file. >>> >>0 >>> >>Directory DSA2:[X9000.CUS.][Infotel.files] >>> >> >>> >>N >>> >>Ceci_est_un_exemple_de_fichier_comport~[52466,7,0].avec_un_MAXIMUM--DE--D >>> >>254_caractres__sans_compter_tous_les_autres_a;1 >>> >>N >>> >>Ceci_est_un_exemple_de_fichier_comport~[52467,6,0].avec_un_MAXIMUM--DE--D >>> >>254_caractres__sans_compter_tous_les_autres__;1 >>> >> >>> >>Total of 2 files.. >>> >>) >>> >>Directory X9000$CUS:[Infotel.files]I >>> >>H >>> >>create_relative.txt;1                   create_relative_file.com;2? >>> >>DECC$CRTL.OLB;3     DECC$RTLDEF.TLB;3   LMF$LICENSE.LDB;1 ; >>> >>rmsrel1.EXE;1       rmsrel1.for;3       rmsrel1.OBJ;1I0 >>> >>rudy.dat;1          tcpip$ftp_server.bck;1 >>> >>VMS$LAYERED.DAT;1r >>> >> >>> >>Total of 11 files. >>> >>- >>> >>Grand total of 3 directories, 14 files.t >>> >>$n >>> >> >>> >> >>>p >>   -- Alan   ------------------------------    Date: 12 Apr 2001 12:38:39 +0200G From: Jan Vorbrueggen <jan@mailhost.neuroinformatik.ruhr-uni-bochum.de>o@ Subject: Re: strange behaviour of DIRECTORY with long file namesH Message-ID: <y4y9t6xv0w.fsf@mailhost.neuroinformatik.ruhr-uni-bochum.de>  M From the listing, DQAO:[Test.files] and DQA0:[189,1,0] are the same directoryiL file - as I said previously, the [x,y,z] syntax is the short-hand form usingI the file id triple. _Why_, OTOH, this directory is listed in two parts is K beyond me. Well, not quite: A reason I can see is that the file-id version :K contains long file names, and the text version contains a short file name. LI Thus, the limitation might be a file name buffer in DIRECTORY whose size iK is insufficient to contain all the text for the long file names in the sub- J directory; thus, the XQP or RMS switch to abbreviated mode (using the fileM id triple) for these, and use the full name for the other. DIRECTORY sees twoAN different subdirectory names in the resultant strings, and doesn't notice thatK in reality, these two are the same - indeed, without looking at the file idfM it can't make this decision (but it knows the file id because DIRECTORY reads # and parses directory files itself).m  K Summary: You've found what I would call a bug in DIRECTORY, and what others1J might call an ODS5-induced misfeature. If it isn't fixed, a documentation # note is the least that is required.i   	Jan   ------------------------------  % Date: Thu, 12 Apr 2001 12:27:15 -0400C- From: John Reagan <reagan@hiyall.zko.dec.com>0@ Subject: Re: strange behaviour of DIRECTORY with long file names2 Message-ID: <3AD59F23.39EF77A2@hiyall.zko.dec.com>   Wayne Sewell wrote:u >  > F > Note: a volume must be initialized as ODS-5 for any of this to work. >   C Just to clarify on what Wayne said, you don't have to pick ODS-5 ati@ initialization time.  You can do a SET VOLUME/STRUCTURE=5 on anyD ODS-2 disk and turn it into an ODS-5 disk.  No conversion is done asD ODS-5 is a superset of ODS-2.  You cannot turn it back into an ODS-2A with SET VOLUME, but the manual on using Extended Filenames givesi+ alternatives if you really want to do that.   = And you can't use SET VOLUME/STRUCTURE=5 on your system disk.n   John Reagans   ------------------------------  % Date: Thu, 12 Apr 2001 12:30:24 -0400h+ From: John Eisenschmidt <jeisensc@aaas.org>x% Subject: SUBMIT Command - Brain Crampp# Message-ID: <sad59fef.016@aaas.org>h  E This command is working, but not generating a log file. Any thoughts?.  5 $ SUBMIT/QUEUE=3DSYS$BATCH/AFTER=3D"TOMORROW+22:00" -e'         SYS$BACKUP:NIGHTLY_BACKUP.COM -,.         /LOG_FILE=3DSYS$LOG:NIGHTLY_BACKUP.LOG  F I've tried it with and without the logicals for SYS$BACKUP and SYS$LOG   $ SHOW LOG SYS$BACKUP ;    "SYS$BACKUP" =3D "DSA0:[SYS0.SYSBKP]" (LNM$SYSTEM_TABLE)  $ SHOW LOG SYS$LOG8    "SYS$LOG" =3D "DSA0:[SYS0.SYSLOG]" (LNM$SYSTEM_TABLE)   Thanks in Advance.  3 ___________________________________________________j        John Eisenschmidt      Systems Analyst<      The American Association for the Advancement of Science"      Office of Technology Services      1200 New York Avenue, NW       Washington, DC 200059      Telephone: 202-326-7039      Facsimile: 202-289-8440'      Electronic Mail: jeisensc@aaas.org 3 ___________________________________________________    ------------------------------  % Date: Thu, 12 Apr 2001 18:07:46 +0100s  From: steven.reece@quintiles.com) Subject: Re: SUBMIT Command - Brain CrampeH Message-ID: <OF63D8BC49.4F67B5F0-ON80256A2C.005DEBA4@qedi.quintiles.com>  I I'd normally like a /KEEP or a /NOPRINT in there so that it didn't try to ) print and then delete the log file on me.a? Have you looked in the accounting logs for jobs that have triedaI to/successfully printed on SYS$PRINT (whatever that may be defined in for  your process)? Steve.   John Eisenschmidt asked:H >>>This command is working, but not generating a log file. Any thoughts?  1 $ SUBMIT/QUEUE=SYS$BATCH/AFTER="TOMORROW+22:00" -s'         SYS$BACKUP:NIGHTLY_BACKUP.COM -e,         /LOG_FILE=SYS$LOG:NIGHTLY_BACKUP.LOG  F I've tried it with and without the logicals for SYS$BACKUP and SYS$LOG   $ SHOW LOG SYS$BACKUP'9    "SYS$BACKUP" = "DSA0:[SYS0.SYSBKP]" (LNM$SYSTEM_TABLE)  $ SHOW LOG SYS$LOG6    "SYS$LOG" = "DSA0:[SYS0.SYSLOG]" (LNM$SYSTEM_TABLE)   Thanks in Advance. <<<h   ------------------------------  % Date: Thu, 12 Apr 2001 12:57:09 -0400e7 From: David Beatty <David.Beatty@sasSPAMITUPTHEZZZ.com>s) Subject: Re: SUBMIT Command - Brain Crampr2 Message-ID: <Rd7VOr5Zq0XOqBDu53yhW4hcnLtf@4ax.com>  > Add the /KEEP qualifier.  Also, if you don't want it to print, add the /NOPRINT qualifier.    David R. Beattye  5 On Thu, 12 Apr 2001 12:30:24 -0400, John Eisenschmidt5 <jeisensc@aaas.org> wrote:  F >This command is working, but not generating a log file. Any thoughts? >w2 >$ SUBMIT/QUEUE=SYS$BATCH/AFTER="TOMORROW+22:00" -( >        SYS$BACKUP:NIGHTLY_BACKUP.COM -- >        /LOG_FILE=SYS$LOG:NIGHTLY_BACKUP.LOGr >iG >I've tried it with and without the logicals for SYS$BACKUP and SYS$LOGv >a >$ SHOW LOG SYS$BACKUP: >   "SYS$BACKUP" = "DSA0:[SYS0.SYSBKP]" (LNM$SYSTEM_TABLE) >$ SHOW LOG SYS$LOGv7 >   "SYS$LOG" = "DSA0:[SYS0.SYSLOG]" (LNM$SYSTEM_TABLE)u >o >Thanks in Advance.t >p4 >___________________________________________________ >n >     John Eisenschmidti >     Systems AnalystG= >     The American Association for the Advancement of Scienceo# >     Office of Technology Servicese >     1200 New York Avenue, NW >     Washington, DC 20005 >     Telephone: 202-326-7039i >     Facsimile: 202-289-8440w( >     Electronic Mail: jeisensc@aaas.org4 >___________________________________________________   ------------------------------   Date: 12 Apr 01 10:53:45 PDT From: mckinneyj@cpva.saic.coms) Subject: Re: SUBMIT Command - Brain Crampe( Message-ID: <UDCbqcAZ29sI@cpva.saic.com>  # In article <sad59fef.016@aaas.org>,o.  John Eisenschmidt <jeisensc@aaas.org> writes:G > This command is working, but not generating a log file. Any thoughts?e > 3 > $ SUBMIT/QUEUE=SYS$BATCH/AFTER="TOMORROW+22:00" -e) >         SYS$BACKUP:NIGHTLY_BACKUP.COM -r. >         /LOG_FILE=SYS$LOG:NIGHTLY_BACKUP.LOG > 	 	/NOPRINTa  ) 	Are you looking on SYS$PRINT or on disk?    --   - Jimd   ------------------------------  % Date: Thu, 12 Apr 2001 10:44:11 -0500e/ From: "Stuart, Ed" <Ed.Stuart@austinenergy.com> 6 Subject: RE: Talk to Rich Marcello - Austin Texas areaR Message-ID: <92EFB80E551BD511B39500D0B7B0CDCCF3B5BD@ohms.electric.ci.austin.tx.us>  E We are pleased to announce that Rich Marcello, Senior VP in charge ofgK OpenVMS will come to speak to ANYONE interested in the status and future of1H OpenVMS on Thursday April 19 from 3:30 to 5:30 at the Compaq facility onF Tandem Blvd (Wells Branch area).  Feel free to forward this message to anyone that may be interested. r  J Also, one of the lucky attendees will walk away with a Compaq IPAQ!!!!!!!!J Even if you don't care about what Rich has to say...come for the chance to win the IPAQ!!!s  ; Please confirm your seat with Jaime.matute@austinenergy.coms) <mailto:Jaime.matute@austinenergy.com>.     5 Batlug web page: http://eisner.decus.org/lugs/batlug/   % We look forward to seeing all of you!y   Jean Nortono Batlug Co-chair  jean@staffing.comn  	 Ed Stuartc Batlug Co-chair. ed.stuart@austinenergy.com   ------------------------------  % Date: Thu, 12 Apr 2001 10:55:54 -0500t+ From: Christopher Smith <csmith@amdocs.com>[6 Subject: RE: Talk to Rich Marcello - Austin Texas areaL Message-ID: <3B55D7F383B0D31197D9009027541CBF0D9D1D55@cmiexch1.cmi.itds.com>   > -----Original Message-----6 > From: Stuart, Ed [mailto:Ed.Stuart@austinenergy.com]  @ > Also, one of the lucky attendees will walk away with a Compaq  > IPAQ!!!!!!!!? > Even if you don't care about what Rich has to say...come for l > the chance tor > win the IPAQ!!!n  ! A DS10 would be more appropriate.a   Regards,   ChrisL  ! Christopher Smith, Perl Developer" Amdocs - Champaign, IL   /usr/bin/perl -e '? print((~"\x95\xc4\xe3"^"Just Another Perl Hacker.")."\x08!\n");0 '1   ------------------------------  % Date: Thu, 12 Apr 2001 13:23:24 -03000) From: fabio_compaq@ep-bc.petrobras.com.brw6 Subject: RE: Talk to Rich Marcello - Austin Texas areaL Message-ID: <OFBDB54DBA.BEDAB551-ON03256A2C.005A017B@ep-bc.petrobras.com.br>    Oh my God .... I am sor far ....     Fabio C.        @ "Stuart, Ed" <Ed.Stuart@austinenergy.com> em 12/04/2001 12:44:11  ; Favor responder a "Stuart, Ed" <Ed.Stuart@austinenergy.com>v             Info-VAX@Mvb.Saic.ComP      6 Assunto: RE: Talk to Rich Marcello - Austin Texas area    E We are pleased to announce that Rich Marcello, Senior VP in charge oftK OpenVMS will come to speak to ANYONE interested in the status and future ofiH OpenVMS on Thursday April 19 from 3:30 to 5:30 at the Compaq facility onF Tandem Blvd (Wells Branch area).  Feel free to forward this message to anyone that may be interested.  J Also, one of the lucky attendees will walk away with a Compaq IPAQ!!!!!!!!J Even if you don't care about what Rich has to say...come for the chance to win the IPAQ!!!   ; Please confirm your seat with Jaime.matute@austinenergy.come' <mailto:Jaime.matute@austinenergy.com>.E  5 Batlug web page: http://eisner.decus.org/lugs/batlug/>  % We look forward to seeing all of you!.   Jean Nortonn Batlug Co-chair  jean@staffing.coml  	 Ed Stuartc Batlug Co-chair_ ed.stuart@austinenergy.com   ------------------------------    Date: 12 Apr 2001 10:11:39 +0200G From: Jan Vorbrueggen <jan@mailhost.neuroinformatik.ruhr-uni-bochum.de>m$ Subject: Re: VMS friendly website???H Message-ID: <y47l0qzgec.fsf@mailhost.neuroinformatik.ruhr-uni-bochum.de>  4 rdeininger@mindspring.com (Robert Deininger) writes:  J > Yes.  The LSE kit provides a bunch.  Some more come with various layeredK > products.  And I'm pretty sure you can write your own from scratch, but I  > haven't done it.  E It is actually quite easy, but very tedious. You can take the extant E languages as a starting point. It is also sometimes very useful to beT& able to extend an existing definition.   	Jan   ------------------------------    Date: 12 Apr 2001 10:08:22 +0200G From: Jan Vorbrueggen <jan@mailhost.neuroinformatik.ruhr-uni-bochum.de>T$ Subject: Re: VMS friendly website???H Message-ID: <y4ae5mzgjt.fsf@mailhost.neuroinformatik.ruhr-uni-bochum.de>  / JF Mezei <jfmezei.spamnot@videotron.ca> writes:D  K > Of course, whenever I hit a site that doesn't work, I just don't go there F > anymore (or if I really need to go, I just save the HTML and get theO > information from the HTML file and bypass all advertising etc). Their loss ifJ& > they don't want to follow standards.  N Just so. Another example are the sites that display only a blank page when you have Javascript turned off.d   	Jan   ------------------------------  % Date: Thu, 12 Apr 2001 10:19:19 +0100t% From: Alan Greig <a.greig@virgin.net>a$ Subject: Re: VMS friendly website???8 Message-ID: <fisadt8ebsndp3ut05si66ve1om955b5hn@4ax.com>  @ On Wed, 11 Apr 2001 20:31:25 GMT, system@SendSpamHere.ORG (Brian Schenkenberger, VAXman-) wrote:H  H >The latest 0.8.1 is still little more than a DECWindows server crasher.H >On the one platform where I was actually able to fire it up without theH >DECWindows server going belly-up, any pages with 3 or more .GIF images / >would cause an ACCVIO and process stack dump.    B I've been using the mozilla pre-releases extensively since the VMSD ports first started appearing and I don't recall a single DECWindowsB crash. Can you point me at some pages which cause you problems andC I'll see what happens with me. I do still see the occasional ACCVIOo* but they are becoming few and far between.     > G >I'm beginning to believe that we will never see a newer version of ANYt, >browser -- save for perhaps Lynx -- on VMS.   -- Alan   ------------------------------  # Date: Thu, 12 Apr 2001 11:03:30 GMTT= From: system@SendSpamHere.ORG (Brian Schenkenberger, VAXman-)_$ Subject: Re: VMS friendly website???0 Message-ID: <009FA6A7.251A17FD@SendSpamHere.ORG>  ` In article <fisadt8ebsndp3ut05si66ve1om955b5hn@4ax.com>, Alan Greig <a.greig@virgin.net> writes:A >On Wed, 11 Apr 2001 20:31:25 GMT, system@SendSpamHere.ORG (Brian8  >Schenkenberger, VAXman-) wrote: >cI >>The latest 0.8.1 is still little more than a DECWindows server crasher.sI >>On the one platform where I was actually able to fire it up without the-I >>DECWindows server going belly-up, any pages with 3 or more .GIF images  0 >>would cause an ACCVIO and process stack dump.  >fC >I've been using the mozilla pre-releases extensively since the VMSxE >ports first started appearing and I don't recall a single DECWindowscC >crash. Can you point me at some pages which cause you problems andsD >I'll see what happens with me. I do still see the occasional ACCVIO+ >but they are becoming few and far between.   D The last time I wasted bandwidth and downloaded a Moz release of .5.D I saw a note yesterday and decided to again waste some bandwidth andD some disk space.  Nothing I saw yesterday indicates to me that thereE was much, if anything, done to address the problems of the last down-1 loaded version.e  C I simply installed Moz on the machine and executed the MOZILLA.COM.eC I'm left with a blank screen and the ghostly shadow of the pointer.v     Fatal server error:S 11-APR-2001 15:37:17.9- 11-APR-2001 15:37:18.0 %SYSTEM-F-ABORT, abort   Y Unrecoverable server internal error (error code = 44) found, terminating all connections.h Mapped Images...  -   START       END        LENGTH    IMAGE NAMEo-   -----       ---        ------    ----------'2        0      201ff      201ff    DECW$SERVER_MAIN1    22000     1c3bff     1a1bff    DECW$SERVER_DIX13 7baca000   7bafbfff      31fff    DECW$SECURITY_VMSc+ 7b81c000   7b88dfff      71fff    SECURESHRI, 7b35e000   7b3cffff      71fff    SECURESHRP7 7c7d0000   7c7dbfff       bfff    DECW$TRANSPORT_COMMONh0 82017330   82028740      11410    SYS$BASE_IMAGE* 7be7c000   7bf0ffff      93fff    DECC$SHR* 7bb86000   7bbc5fff      3ffff    DPML$SHR- 7b8be000   7b8cbfff       dfff    CMA$TIS_SHR0( 7b54c000   7b59dfff      51fff    LIBRTL( 7b59e000   7b5a5fff       7fff    LIBOTS4 82003cd8   82005bd8       1f00    SYS$PUBLIC_VECTORS@   2b6000     4d85ff     2225ff    DECW$SVEXT_ADOBE_DPS_EXTENSION0   4da000     5ab3ff      d13ff    DECW$SVEXT_XIE6   5ac000     5ec3ff      403ff    DECW$SVEXT_DEC_XTRAP<   5ee000     62e3ff      403ff    DECW$SVEXT_MULTI_BUFFERING0   630000     6c0bff      90bff    DECW$SVEXT_GLX7   6c2000     7225ff      605ff    DECW$SERVER_DEC_3DLIB.4   724000     7e53ff      c13ff    DECW$SVEXT_X3D_PEX6   7e6000     8263ff      403ff    DECW$SVEXT_DECSTEREO7   82a000     95b5ff     1315ff    DECW$TRANSPORT_DECNETt*   95c000     95ffff       3fff    DECC$MSG+   960000     9669ff       69ff    SHRIMGMSGh3   968000     9781ff      101ff    DECW$TRANSPORTMSG 6   97a000     9ba3ff      403ff    DECW$TRANSPORT_LOCAL6   9bc000     9fc3ff      403ff    DECW$TRANSPORT_TCPIP4   9fe000     aef3ff      f13ff    DECW$SERVER_DDX_GY7   c16000     c769ff      609ff    DECW$SERVER_DDX_CFB16>7   af0000     b409ff      509ff    DECW$SERVER_DDX_CFB32i5   b42000     bb29ff      709ff    DECW$SERVER_DDX_CFBt5   bb4000     c147ff      607ff    DECW$SERVER_DDX_MFBs-  d012000    d092fff      80fff    UCX$IPC_SHR>2  d094000    d134bff      a0bff    TCPIP$ACCESS_SHR/  dd60000    dd745ff      145ff    TCPIP$MSG.EXEc/  dd60000    dd745ff      145ff    TCPIP$MSG.EXE5  " Exception Call stack dump follows:         PC     IMAGE+offset of call       --     --------------------$    f3770     DECW$SERVER_DIX + d1770$    e63f4     DECW$SERVER_DIX + c43f4%    101dc     DECW$SERVER_MAIN + 101dc (   b7a70c     DECW$SERVER_DDX_CFB + 3870c$    b22dc     DECW$SERVER_DIX + 902dc$    ae398     DECW$SERVER_DIX + 8c398$    e6da0     DECW$SERVER_DIX + c4da0  8 ********** marking the end of call stack dump **********8 ********************************************************       --O VAXman- OpenVMS APE certification number: AAA-0001     VAXman(at)TMESIS(dot)COMr             O city, n., 1. a place where trees are cut down and streets are named after them.    ------------------------------  % Date: Thu, 12 Apr 2001 19:04:56 +0800-- From: David B Sneddon <dbsneddon@bigpond.com> $ Subject: Re: VMS friendly website???@ Message-ID: <5.0.2.1.0.20010412190428.009f3ec0@mail.bigpond.com>  2 At 02:27 PM 11/04/01 -0700, Malcolm Dunnett wrote:3 >In article <a23B6.810$fB6.20246@news.cpqcorp.net>,t: >     hoffman@xdelta.zko.dec.nospam (Hoff Hoffman) writes: > >eC > >   But this entire discussion is off-topic for comp.os.vms... TohD > >   maintain at least some OpenVMS content in this posting, I willH > >   mention I use the LSEDIT text editor to create or update the HTML,I > >   but that statement clearly marks me as somewhat of an e-curmudgeon.n > > 9 >       What does that make those of us who use EDT then?n  
 ..or TECO?       Regards, Dave.  -- sI David B Sneddon (dbs)  OpenVMS Systems Programmer   dbsneddon@bigpond.comeI Sneddo's quick guide ...          http://www.users.bigpond.com/dbsneddon/tI DBS freeware at ...   http://www.users.bigpond.com/dbsneddon/software.htm I "Life is what happens to you while you're busy making other plans" Lennonh   ------------------------------  % Date: Thu, 12 Apr 2001 12:40:00 +0100e- From: Tim Llewellyn <tim.llewellyn@bbc.co.uk> $ Subject: Re: VMS friendly website???) Message-ID: <3AD59410.11D9F69B@bbc.co.uk>m   Robert Deininger wrote:u  K >  Yes.  The LSE kit provides a bunch.  Some more come with various layeredtK > products.  And I'm pretty sure you can write your own from scratch, but Ii > haven't done it. >-  F yup, I knew someone who had a LSE definition for cross-compiled Occam.  ( Now, about that HTML template for LSE... --6 Tim Llewellyn, OpenVMS Infrastructure, Remarcs Project0 MedAS at the BBC, Whiteladies Road, Bristol, UK.A Email tim.llewellyn@bbc.co.uk. Home tim.llewellyn@cableinet.co.ukd  A I speak for myself only and my views in no way represent those ofn MedAS or the BBC.a   ------------------------------   Date: 12 Apr 2001 13:22:50 GMT1 From: bill@triangle.cs.uofs.edu (Bill Gunshannon)O$ Subject: Re: VMS friendly website???+ Message-ID: <9b4a7a$kk8$1@info.cs.uofs.edu>n  0 In article <009FA62D.50B31BD9@SendSpamHere.ORG>,@  system@SendSpamHere.ORG (Brian Schenkenberger, VAXman-) writes: |>I |> I'm beginning to believe that we will never see a newer version of ANYi. |> browser -- save for perhaps Lynx -- on VMS. |> -  B Well, someone could always approach the Opera team and see if theyB are receptive to doing a VMS port.  They support both BeOS and OS28 now.  Those are not particularly mainstream OSes either.   bill   -- nJ Bill Gunshannon          |  de-moc-ra-cy (di mok' ra see) n.  Three wolvesD bill@cs.scranton.edu     |  and a sheep voting on what's for dinner. University of Scranton   |A Scranton, Pennsylvania   |         #include <std.disclaimer.h>   d   ------------------------------   Date: 12 Apr 2001 13:26:08 GMT1 From: bill@triangle.cs.uofs.edu (Bill Gunshannon) $ Subject: Re: VMS friendly website???+ Message-ID: <9b4adg$kk8$2@info.cs.uofs.edu>_  L In article <rdeininger-1204010109130001@user-2ive63a.dialup.mindspring.com>,5  rdeininger@mindspring.com (Robert Deininger) writes:  |> c |>  K |> Yes.  The LSE kit provides a bunch.  Some more come with various layered L |> products.  And I'm pretty sure you can write your own from scratch, but I |> haven't done it.t  E Sure can, and it's not a particularly daunting task.  We actually had_C modeules for Pascal, COBOL and Ada here that provided the templates1C based on department coding standards back when we actually used VMSI for student work.r   bill   -- DJ Bill Gunshannon          |  de-moc-ra-cy (di mok' ra see) n.  Three wolvesD bill@cs.scranton.edu     |  and a sheep voting on what's for dinner. University of Scranton   |A Scranton, Pennsylvania   |         #include <std.disclaimer.h>   v   ------------------------------  % Date: Thu, 12 Apr 2001 09:14:51 -0500d+ From: Christopher Smith <csmith@amdocs.com>n$ Subject: RE: VMS friendly website???L Message-ID: <3B55D7F383B0D31197D9009027541CBF0D9D1D54@cmiexch1.cmi.itds.com>   > -----Original Message-----D > From: bill@triangle.cs.uofs.edu [mailto:bill@triangle.cs.uofs.edu]  D > Well, someone could always approach the Opera team and see if theyD > are receptive to doing a VMS port.  They support both BeOS and OS2: > now.  Those are not particularly mainstream OSes either.  H Judging from what I know about Opera, the answer will be something along these lines:  K "Sure, if there's a good chance we can make our development money back fromy it..."   Regards,   ChrisZ  ! Christopher Smith, Perl Developer  Amdocs - Champaign, IL   /usr/bin/perl -e '? print((~"\x95\xc4\xe3"^"Just Another Perl Hacker.")."\x08!\n");n 'w   ------------------------------  % Date: Thu, 12 Apr 2001 14:45:31 +0100u% From: Alan Greig <a.greig@virgin.net>n$ Subject: Re: VMS friendly website???8 Message-ID: <f5bbdt4q9o0opk33dpu8q68c0i1f4tigq0@4ax.com>  @ On Thu, 12 Apr 2001 11:03:30 GMT, system@SendSpamHere.ORG (Brian Schenkenberger, VAXman-) wrote:A    D >I simply installed Moz on the machine and executed the MOZILLA.COM.D >I'm left with a blank screen and the ghostly shadow of the pointer.  E I've successfully ran recent Mozilla on: ES40 with 7.2-1 (Elsa Gloria_D graphics), Alphastation 400 4/233 7.2-1 and 7.3 EFT 2, Multia 7.2-1,A Alpha PC 164LX 7.3 EFT2 Permedia 2 graphics.  DECWindows versions_C 1.2-4, 1.2-5, 1.2-6. Despite the above ranging from fully supported A production through to totally unsupported field test and/or weirdtB hardware I could not persuade the X server to crash. I use MozillaB both locally and via set display/create/node= using both TCPIP and DECNET transports.  C I'm guessing you do but just to be on the safe side do you actually_? have all the patches installed that are listed as mandatory for- Mozilla?  F What I'm really trying to say is that it looks like there is somethingC strange about your setup rather than Mozilla needing a particularlyiB strict config to run (apart from patches). The only systems I have, totally unpatched are those running 7.3 EFT2 -- Alan   ------------------------------   Date: 12 APR 2001 14:34:19 GMT+ From: Dave Greenwood <greenwoodde@ornl.gov> $ Subject: Re: VMS friendly website???2 Message-ID: <12APR01.14341945@feda01.fed.ornl.gov>  . JF Mezei <jfmezei.spamnot@videotron.ca> wrote: > Hoff Hoffman wrote:-C > >   But this entire discussion is off-topic for comp.os.vms... ToeD > >   maintain at least some OpenVMS content in this posting, I willH > >   mention I use the LSEDIT text editor to create or update the HTML,I > >   but that statement clearly marks me as somewhat of an e-curmudgeon.e >   F > I have never used LSedit.  Is there a "plug-in" to LSEDIT for HTML ?  % Not that I've ever used it, but I seeo   	LSE$EXAMPLE:HTML.LSEp  F on my system.  I presume that came as part of the LSE kit.  The authorE is listed as Brian Tillman.  Since the date is given as 8-Oct-1996 itt may be somewhat out of date.   Dave --------------9 Dave Greenwood                Email: Greenwoodde@ORNL.GOVaH Oak Ridge National Lab        %STD-W-DISCLAIMER, I only speak for myself   ------------------------------  % Date: Thu, 12 Apr 2001 15:19:01 +0100a  From: steven.reece@quintiles.com$ Subject: Re: VMS friendly website???H Message-ID: <OFFCFF1C44.372AC116-ON80256A2C.004E3ED1@qedi.quintiles.com>  H So what's wrong with just using LSEDIT?  I use plain, vanilla TPU for myH web page writing.  The resultant pages may not be as glitzy as some, butJ they work and load in a sensible time and they do what I want (which often; includes dragging in DCL procedures, but that's by the by).3: Write on VMS, Deploy on VMS, Keep VMS Engineering in work. :-)  Steve.   Hoff wrote:-A >>> But this entire discussion is off-topic for comp.os.vms... Tol@   maintain at least some OpenVMS content in this posting, I willD   mention I use the LSEDIT text editor to create or update the HTML,E   but that statement clearly marks me as somewhat of an e-curmudgeon.p <<<a   ------------------------------  % Date: Thu, 12 Apr 2001 12:21:04 -0400C% From: "Brian Tillman" <tillman_brian>n$ Subject: Re: VMS friendly website???$ Message-ID: <3ad5d63f$1@news.si.com>  8 >I presume that came as part of the LSE kit.  The author >is listed as Brian Tillman.  L Yep.  I let Digital use it a long time ago.  They asked me if they could useJ it, but never told me when they would.  Funny, though, they put "CopyrightL Digital Equipment" on it.  It is definitely NOT copyright Digital or Compaq.
 It's mine.  L I haven't updated it since then, but I prefer to write fairly simply HTML so5 that any browser can access the info I wish to share.  --A Brian Tillman                   Internet: tillman_brian at si.comeA Smiths Aerospace                          tillman at swdev.si.comM= 3290 Patterson Ave. SE, MS      Addresses modified to preventu< Grand Rapids, MI 49512-1991     SPAM.  Replace "at" with "@"8        This opinion doesn't represent that of my company   ------------------------------  # Date: Thu, 12 Apr 2001 16:30:39 GMT = From: system@SendSpamHere.ORG (Brian Schenkenberger, VAXman-)!$ Subject: Re: VMS friendly website???0 Message-ID: <009FA6D4.D874AF27@SendSpamHere.ORG>  ` In article <f5bbdt4q9o0opk33dpu8q68c0i1f4tigq0@4ax.com>, Alan Greig <a.greig@virgin.net> writes:A >On Thu, 12 Apr 2001 11:03:30 GMT, system@SendSpamHere.ORG (Briana  >Schenkenberger, VAXman-) wrote: >l >fE >>I simply installed Moz on the machine and executed the MOZILLA.COM.rE >>I'm left with a blank screen and the ghostly shadow of the pointer.- >-F >I've successfully ran recent Mozilla on: ES40 with 7.2-1 (Elsa GloriaE >graphics), Alphastation 400 4/233 7.2-1 and 7.3 EFT 2, Multia 7.2-1, B >Alpha PC 164LX 7.3 EFT2 Permedia 2 graphics.  DECWindows versionsD >1.2-4, 1.2-5, 1.2-6. Despite the above ranging from fully supportedB >production through to totally unsupported field test and/or weirdC >hardware I could not persuade the X server to crash. I use Mozilla C >both locally and via set display/create/node= using both TCPIP and, >DECNET transports.u >nD >I'm guessing you do but just to be on the safe side do you actually@ >have all the patches installed that are listed as mandatory for	 >Mozilla?-  # Where is this exhaustive list??????r   --O VAXman- OpenVMS APE certification number: AAA-0001     VAXman(at)TMESIS(dot)COMu            cO city, n., 1. a place where trees are cut down and streets are named after them.t   ------------------------------   Date: 12 Apr 2001 16:33:55 GMT1 From: bill@triangle.cs.uofs.edu (Bill Gunshannon)o$ Subject: RE: VMS friendly website???+ Message-ID: <9b4ldk$q3n$1@info.cs.uofs.edu>v  L In article <3B55D7F383B0D31197D9009027541CBF0D9D1D54@cmiexch1.cmi.itds.com>,.  Christopher Smith <csmith@amdocs.com> writes: |> > -----Original Message-----hG |> > From: bill@triangle.cs.uofs.edu [mailto:bill@triangle.cs.uofs.edu]v |> pG |> > Well, someone could always approach the Opera team and see if they G |> > are receptive to doing a VMS port.  They support both BeOS and OS2:= |> > now.  Those are not particularly mainstream OSes either.6 |> mK |> Judging from what I know about Opera, the answer will be something along  |> these lines:e |>  N |> "Sure, if there's a good chance we can make our development money back from	 |> it...". |>    J Well, that's true of any product.  Are you saying that there is not likelyG to be as much chance of that in the VMS user base than in BeOS or OS2??cG Are the VMS numbers really that low??  Surely people who are willing torH pay what they do for Alpha hardware and OpenVMS software wouldn't flinch2 at the concept of paying for a decent web browser.   bill   -- aJ Bill Gunshannon          |  de-moc-ra-cy (di mok' ra see) n.  Three wolvesD bill@cs.scranton.edu     |  and a sheep voting on what's for dinner. University of Scranton   |A Scranton, Pennsylvania   |         #include <std.disclaimer.h>       ------------------------------  % Date: Thu, 12 Apr 2001 12:16:54 -0400-% From: "Brian Tillman" <tillman_brian>M$ Subject: Re: VMS friendly website???$ Message-ID: <3ad5d546$1@news.si.com>  , This is a multi-part message in MIME format.  + ------=_NextPart_000_0F5A_01C0C34A.76565720i Content-Type: text/plain;5 	charset="iso-8859-1"i Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bitO  I Here's one I wrote.  Not the most recent HTML, but it serves my purposes.r    + ------=_NextPart_000_0F5A_01C0C34A.76565720t' Content-Type: application/octet-stream;c 	name="HTMLENV.ZIP"e! Content-Transfer-Encoding: base64   Content-Disposition: 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Thu, 12 Apr 2001 17:44:36 +0100B- From: Tim Llewellyn <tim.llewellyn@bbc.co.uk>V$ Subject: Re: VMS friendly website???) Message-ID: <3AD5DB74.52C3EADB@bbc.co.uk>N  ! steven.reece@quintiles.com wrote:T  J > So what's wrong with just using LSEDIT?  I use plain, vanilla TPU for myJ > web page writing.  The resultant pages may not be as glitzy as some, butL > they work and load in a sensible time and they do what I want (which often= > includes dragging in DCL procedures, but that's by the by).V< > Write on VMS, Deploy on VMS, Keep VMS Engineering in work. > :-)u    and use CMS for code management.   --6 Tim Llewellyn, OpenVMS Infrastructure, Remarcs Project0 MedAS at the BBC, Whiteladies Road, Bristol, UK.A Email tim.llewellyn@bbc.co.uk. Home tim.llewellyn@cableinet.co.uk3  A I speak for myself only and my views in no way represent those ofg MedAS or the BBC.0   ------------------------------    Date: 12 Apr 2001 08:35:38 -0500- From: koehler@encompasserve.org (Bob Koehler)S$ Subject: Re: VMS friendly website???3 Message-ID: <1vZzcqKfw3SP@eisner.encompasserve.org>Y  ` In article <T84cjy6rUcM4@malvm1.mala.bc.ca>, nothome@spammers.are.scum (Malcolm Dunnett) writes:  9 >       What does that make those of us who use EDT then?b   Way behind on learning Eve?1  F ----------------------------------------------------------------------? Bob Koehler                     | Computer Sciences Corporationb= NASA GSFC Flight Software       | Federal Sector, Civil GroupBE                                 | please remove ".aspm" when replyingG   ------------------------------  % Date: Thu, 12 Apr 2001 17:51:20 +01008- From: Tim Llewellyn <tim.llewellyn@bbc.co.uk>1$ Subject: Re: VMS friendly website???( Message-ID: <3AD5DD08.1B4BED9@bbc.co.uk>  & "Brian Schenkenberger, VAXman-" wrote:  b > In article <f5bbdt4q9o0opk33dpu8q68c0i1f4tigq0@4ax.com>, Alan Greig <a.greig@virgin.net> writes:C > >On Thu, 12 Apr 2001 11:03:30 GMT, system@SendSpamHere.ORG (Brianp" > >Schenkenberger, VAXman-) wrote: > >B > >ZG > >>I simply installed Moz on the machine and executed the MOZILLA.COM.3G > >>I'm left with a blank screen and the ghostly shadow of the pointer.+ > >5H > >I've successfully ran recent Mozilla on: ES40 with 7.2-1 (Elsa GloriaG > >graphics), Alphastation 400 4/233 7.2-1 and 7.3 EFT 2, Multia 7.2-1,PD > >Alpha PC 164LX 7.3 EFT2 Permedia 2 graphics.  DECWindows versionsF > >1.2-4, 1.2-5, 1.2-6. Despite the above ranging from fully supportedD > >production through to totally unsupported field test and/or weirdE > >hardware I could not persuade the X server to crash. I use MozillaLE > >both locally and via set display/create/node= using both TCPIP and+ > >DECNET transports.4 > >JF > >I'm guessing you do but just to be on the safe side do you actuallyB > >have all the patches installed that are listed as mandatory for > >Mozilla?c  % > Where is this exhaustive list??????s  O http://www.openvms.compaq.com/openvms/products/ips/mozilla_relnotes.html#prereqT  M However, I believe you also need Java which requires its own slew of patches.tP I have no scratch Alpha which is why I still use Netscape 3.03 on VMS if needed.   Hope this helps   O btw in addition to Alan's suggestions possibly you have some antique UAF quotas2  of PQL_D_ values lurking around?   > --Q > VAXman- OpenVMS APE certification number: AAA-0001     VAXman(at)TMESIS(dot)COM0 >BQ > city, n., 1. a place where trees are cut down and streets are named after them.A   regardso   --6 Tim Llewellyn, OpenVMS Infrastructure, Remarcs Project0 MedAS at the BBC, Whiteladies Road, Bristol, UK.A Email tim.llewellyn@bbc.co.uk. Home tim.llewellyn@cableinet.co.ukU  A I speak for myself only and my views in no way represent those of6 MedAS or the BBC.g   ------------------------------  # Date: Thu, 12 Apr 2001 17:17:35 GMTw= From: system@SendSpamHere.ORG (Brian Schenkenberger, VAXman-)s$ Subject: Re: VMS friendly website???0 Message-ID: <009FA6DB.66EEA6E5@SendSpamHere.ORG>  X In article <3AD5DD08.1B4BED9@bbc.co.uk>, Tim Llewellyn <tim.llewellyn@bbc.co.uk> writes: >d >b' >"Brian Schenkenberger, VAXman-" wrote:s >fc >> In article <f5bbdt4q9o0opk33dpu8q68c0i1f4tigq0@4ax.com>, Alan Greig <a.greig@virgin.net> writes:BD >> >On Thu, 12 Apr 2001 11:03:30 GMT, system@SendSpamHere.ORG (Brian# >> >Schenkenberger, VAXman-) wrote:M >> > >> >H >> >>I simply installed Moz on the machine and executed the MOZILLA.COM.H >> >>I'm left with a blank screen and the ghostly shadow of the pointer. >> >I >> >I've successfully ran recent Mozilla on: ES40 with 7.2-1 (Elsa Gloria H >> >graphics), Alphastation 400 4/233 7.2-1 and 7.3 EFT 2, Multia 7.2-1,E >> >Alpha PC 164LX 7.3 EFT2 Permedia 2 graphics.  DECWindows versionsPG >> >1.2-4, 1.2-5, 1.2-6. Despite the above ranging from fully supportedLE >> >production through to totally unsupported field test and/or weirdYF >> >hardware I could not persuade the X server to crash. I use MozillaF >> >both locally and via set display/create/node= using both TCPIP and >> >DECNET transports. >> >G >> >I'm guessing you do but just to be on the safe side do you actually0C >> >have all the patches installed that are listed as mandatory for4 >> >Mozilla? >H& >> Where is this exhaustive list?????? >RP >http://www.openvms.compaq.com/openvms/products/ips/mozilla_relnotes.html#prereq >pN >However, I believe you also need Java which requires its own slew of patches.Q >I have no scratch Alpha which is why I still use Netscape 3.03 on VMS if needed.k >c >Hope this helps >8P >btw in addition to Alan's suggestions possibly you have some antique UAF quotas! >of PQL_D_ values lurking around?l >l >> --ER >> VAXman- OpenVMS APE certification number: AAA-0001     VAXman(at)TMESIS(dot)COM >>R >> city, n., 1. a place where trees are cut down and streets are named after them. >4 >regards >k >--+7 >Tim Llewellyn, OpenVMS Infrastructure, Remarcs ProjectV1 >MedAS at the BBC, Whiteladies Road, Bristol, UK.wB >Email tim.llewellyn@bbc.co.uk. Home tim.llewellyn@cableinet.co.uk >iB >I speak for myself only and my views in no way represent those of >MedAS or the BBC. >9 >k    . There is no exhaustive list of patches.  Read:  5   o  OpenVMS Version 7.2 -- No patches (ECOs) needed.e    & PGFLQUOTA is 2,000,000.  Fillm is 500.  D Even with Moz installed via INSTALL.COM, the DECWindows server goes 	 belly up.U  G AlphaStation 200 4/233, ZXLp-E3, 384MB, OpenVMS V7.2-1, DW V1.2-5981105A       Fatal server error:W 12-APR-2001 13:10:28.5- 12-APR-2001 13:10:28.6 %SYSTEM-F-ABORT, aborth  P Unrecoverable server internal error (error code = 44) found, terminating all co. Mapped Images...  -   START       END        LENGTH    IMAGE NAMEv-   -----       ---        ------    ----------22        0      201ff      201ff    DECW$SERVER_MAIN1    22000     1c3bff     1a1bff    DECW$SERVER_DIXI3 7baca000   7bafbfff      31fff    DECW$SECURITY_VMSR+ 7b81c000   7b88dfff      71fff    SECURESHRV, 7b35e000   7b3cffff      71fff    SECURESHRP7 7c7d0000   7c7dbfff       bfff    DECW$TRANSPORT_COMMONL0 82017330   82028740      11410    SYS$BASE_IMAGE* 7be7c000   7bf0ffff      93fff    DECC$SHR* 7bb86000   7bbc5fff      3ffff    DPML$SHR- 7b8be000   7b8cbfff       dfff    CMA$TIS_SHR2( 7b54c000   7b59dfff      51fff    LIBRTL( 7b59e000   7b5a5fff       7fff    LIBOTS4 82003cd8   82005bd8       1f00    SYS$PUBLIC_VECTORS@   2b6000     4d85ff     2225ff    DECW$SVEXT_ADOBE_DPS_EXTENSION0   4da000     5ab3ff      d13ff    DECW$SVEXT_XIE6   5ac000     5ec3ff      403ff    DECW$SVEXT_DEC_XTRAP<   5ee000     62e3ff      403ff    DECW$SVEXT_MULTI_BUFFERING0   630000     6c0bff      90bff    DECW$SVEXT_GLX7   6c2000     7225ff      605ff    DECW$SERVER_DEC_3DLIBO4   724000     7e53ff      c13ff    DECW$SVEXT_X3D_PEX6   7e6000     8263ff      403ff    DECW$SVEXT_DECSTEREO7   82a000     95b5ff     1315ff    DECW$TRANSPORT_DECNETD*   95c000     95ffff       3fff    DECC$MSG+   960000     9669ff       69ff    SHRIMGMSG93   968000     9781ff      101ff    DECW$TRANSPORTMSGP6   97a000     9ba3ff      403ff    DECW$TRANSPORT_LOCAL6   9bc000     9fc3ff      403ff    DECW$TRANSPORT_TCPIP4   9fe000     aef3ff      f13ff    DECW$SERVER_DDX_GY7   c16000     c769ff      609ff    DECW$SERVER_DDX_CFB16Q7   af0000     b409ff      509ff    DECW$SERVER_DDX_CFB32t5   b42000     bb29ff      709ff    DECW$SERVER_DDX_CFBH5   bb4000     c147ff      607ff    DECW$SERVER_DDX_MFBA-  d012000    d092fff      80fff    UCX$IPC_SHRV2  d094000    d134bff      a0bff    TCPIP$ACCESS_SHR/  d622000    d6365ff      145ff    TCPIP$MSG.EXEU  " Exception Call stack dump follows:         PC     IMAGE+offset of call       --     --------------------$    f3770     DECW$SERVER_DIX + d1770$    e63f4     DECW$SERVER_DIX + c43f4%    101dc     DECW$SERVER_MAIN + 101dcy(   b7a70c     DECW$SERVER_DDX_CFB + 3870c$    b22dc     DECW$SERVER_DIX + 902dc$    ae398     DECW$SERVER_DIX + 8c398$    e6da0     DECW$SERVER_DIX + c4da0  8 ********** marking the end of call stack dump **********8 ********************************************************     --O VAXman- OpenVMS APE certification number: AAA-0001     VAXman(at)TMESIS(dot)COMf            LO city, n., 1. a place where trees are cut down and streets are named after them.    ------------------------------   Date: 12 APR 2001 15:15:53 GMT4 From: karcher@thuria.waisman.wisc.edu (Carl Karcher)$ Subject: Re: VMS friendly website???6 Message-ID: <12APR01.15155364@thuria.waisman.wisc.edu>  = In a previous article, Alan Greig <a.greig@virgin.net> wrote:h  G ->I've successfully ran recent Mozilla on: ES40 with 7.2-1 (Elsa GloriaGF ->graphics), Alphastation 400 4/233 7.2-1 and 7.3 EFT 2, Multia 7.2-1,C ->Alpha PC 164LX 7.3 EFT2 Permedia 2 graphics.  DECWindows versions1E ->1.2-4, 1.2-5, 1.2-6. Despite the above ranging from fully supported7C ->production through to totally unsupported field test and/or weirdED ->hardware I could not persuade the X server to crash. I use MozillaD ->both locally and via set display/create/node= using both TCPIP and ->DECNET transports.  H Did that ES40 have more than one CPU? Under VMS V7.2-1 on an AlphaserverH 1000A 5/400 I can start Mozilla 0.8 ok. On a Alphaserver 1200 5/533 with two cpu's I get:   Starting mozilla-bin...A. Registering plugin 0 for: "*","All types",".*". Registering plugin 0 for: "*","All types",".*"; %SYSTEM-F-ACCVIO, access violation, reason mask=00, virtualw: address=0000000000000000, PC=00000000003B8578, PS=0000001B/ %TRACE-F-TRACEBACK, symbolic stack dump follows+J   image    module    routine             line      rel PC           abs PC0  LIBXPCOM  NSPROXYEVENTOBJECT  GetNewOrUsedProxyO                                         33154 0000000000000A08 00000000003B8578k2  LIBXPCOM  NSPROXYOBJECTMANAGER  GetProxyForObjectO                                         27055 0000000000001230 00000000003BB2C0wO  LIBNECKO  NSSTREAMLOADER  Init         39933 00000000000011F8 0000000001582458r.  LIBGKCONTENT  NSCSSLOADER  NS_NewStreamLoaderO                                         42041 000000000000197C 000000000231DC5CaO  LIBGKCONTENT  NSCSSLOADER  LoadSheet   46251 00000000000063E8 00000000023226C8Q)  LIBGKCONTENT  NSCSSLOADER  LoadStyleLinkYO                                         46420 0000000000006E04 00000000023230E4N1  LIBGKCONTENT  NSXULCONTENTSINK  ProcessStyleLinkbO                                         65867 0000000000003B40 00000000023D4F60I9  LIBGKCONTENT  NSXULCONTENTSINK  AddProcessingInstructionwO                                         65940 0000000000004378 00000000023D57980?  LIBHTMLPARS  NSWELLFORMEDDTD  HandleProcessingInstructionTokensO                                         44087 0000000000001484 000000000185B3F4+*  LIBHTMLPARS  NSWELLFORMEDDTD  HandleTokenO                                         44003 00000000000010B0 000000000185B0200)  LIBHTMLPARS  NSWELLFORMEDDTD  BuildModelVO                                         43742 0000000000000A40 000000000185A9B0TO  LIBHTMLPARS  NSPARSER  BuildModel      46784 0000000000004EF0 0000000001849A803O  LIBHTMLPARS  NSPARSER  ResumeParse     46665 0000000000004C68 00000000018497F8Q'  LIBHTMLPARS  NSPARSER  OnDataAvailable0+  LIBURILOADER  NSURILOADER  OnDataAvailableuO                                         47102 00000000000033C0 0000000001952350j-  LIBNECKO  NSSTREAMLISTENERPROXY  HandleEvent4O                                         17109 0000000000001138 000000000157FD28AO  LIBXPCOM  PLEVENT  PL_HandleEvent      35357 0000000000000C68 00000000003B3BC8A+  LIBXPCOM  PLEVENT  PL_ProcessPendingEventsMO                                         35287 0000000000000AC4 00000000003B3A24M-  LIBXPCOM  NSEVENTQUEUE  ProcessPendingEventsYO                                         25409 0000000000001CC4 00000000003AC544 -  LIBWIDGET_GTK  NSAPPSHELL  our_gdk_io_invokesO                                         70397 00000000000008B4 0000000000AF4954tO  LIBGLIB  GMAIN  g_main_dispatch        19203 0000000000000AD0 0000000000D5BE20sO  LIBGLIB  GMAIN  g_main_iterate         19424 000000000000128C 0000000000D5C5DClO  LIBGLIB  GMAIN  g_main_run             19482 0000000000001470 0000000000D5C7C0jO  LIBGTK  GTKMAIN  gtk_main              20665 0000000000000A58 0000000000FAC508AO  LIBWIDGET_GTK  NSAPPSHELL  Run         70697 0000000000001544 0000000000AF55E4AO  MOZILLA-BIN  NSAPPRUNNER  main1        61969 00000000000074C0 00000000000374C0AO  MOZILLA-BIN  NSAPPRUNNER  main         62263 0000000000008188 0000000000038188gO  MOZILLA-BIN  NSAPPRUNNER  __MAIN           0 0000000000000070 0000000000030070gO  PTHREAD$RTL                                0 00000000000312FC 000000007BBCD2FCgO  PTHREAD$RTL                                0 0000000000012B48 000000007BBAEB48AO                                             0 FFFFFFFF8729B3F4 FFFFFFFF8729B3F4B   More about the configuration:y   Graphics hardware:  % 	AS1000A 5/400 : PB2GA-JA (Trio64 S3)A* 	AS1200 5/533  : PB2GA-JD (9FX Motion 331)   Decwindows:L  E This is the DECwindows X11 display server for OpenVMS AXP V7.1-990529A3                 compiled on May 29 1999 at 12:43:24W   VMS PATCHES:  A VMS721_BACKUP-V0100     VMS721_DRIVER-V0100     VMS721_F11X-V0200 C VMS721_FIBRE_SCSI-V0200 VMS721_IPC-V0100        VMS721_LIBRTL-V0100ID VMS721_MOUNT96-V0200    VMS721_PCSI-V0100       VMS721_PTHREAD-V0200@ VMS721_SCSI-V0100       VMS721_SHADOWING-V0400  VMS721_SYS-V0800+ VMS721_SYSLOA-V0100     VMS721_UPDATE-V0100W   ------------------------------  % Date: Thu, 12 Apr 2001 17:27:55 +0530A2 From: Abhijit Kulkarni <Abhijit_Kulkarni@infy.com>$ Subject: web enabling open vms alphaN Message-ID: <C7F2D7449C26D411A4B6009027989AC002FEFCAC@punmsg03.ad.infosys.com>   Hi,2K Is there any literature/pointers available on web enabling of DEC C on open27 vms alpha,  using CORBA framework and Apache webserver.Q= I wanted to have the risks, tools, effort for the above task.B   RegardsA AbhijitA   ------------------------------  % Date: Thu, 12 Apr 2001 17:46:46 +0530A2 From: Abhijit Kulkarni <Abhijit_Kulkarni@infy.com>$ Subject: web enabling open vms alphaN Message-ID: <C7F2D7449C26D411A4B6009027989AC002FEFCAE@punmsg03.ad.infosys.com>   Hi,AE 	We are planning to web enable our c-application on openVMS alpha. As5I a part of this effort , we have to call the existing c programs from javaiE programs.I want to know if this is possible on openVMS. I mean if theAK required tools and apis like JAVAH are available?Also I want to know what rCI the other tools available & what are the efforts  required for this (like2 for changing the c code) Any pointers are most welcome! RegardsA AbhijitG   ------------------------------  % Date: Thu, 12 Apr 2001 16:28:46 -00000- From: wspencer@ap.nospam.org (Warren Spencer)k( Subject: Re: web enabling open vms alpha/ Message-ID: <tdbltum2mlq418@news.supernews.com>A  5 Abhijit_Kulkarni@infy.com (Abhijit Kulkarni) wrote inAD <C7F2D7449C26D411A4B6009027989AC002FEFCAE@punmsg03.ad.infosys.com>:    >Hi,G >     We are planning to web enable our c-application on openVMS alpha.A	 >     As  E >a part of this effort , we have to call the existing c programs fromAG >java programs.I want to know if this is possible on openVMS. I mean ifAI >the required tools and apis like JAVAH are available?Also I want to knowAF >what r the other tools available & what are the efforts  required for$ >this (like for changing the c code) >Any pointers are most welcome!4 >Regards >Abhijit >l  L You may wish to check out BridgeWorks, from Compaq.  It'll "wrapper" your C 5 routines and put them on the network as DCOM objects.i   ws   -- o1 << Marriage is Grand.  Divorce is Fifty Grand. >>I   Warren Spencer Senior Software Engineer The Associated Press  ? ** My employer does not necessarily agree with my statements **    ------------------------------  % Date: Thu, 12 Apr 2001 17:02:11 +0200D! From: Didier Morandi <DMo@ims.ch>) Subject: [INFO] PCSI_Wiz 1.1-2& Message-ID: <3AD5C373.D90C72DE@ims.ch>  G A corrected version of the worldwide awards winner advanced programmingu* procedure PCSI_WIZ.COM has been posted to:  ' http://groups.yahoo.com/group/vmsinstalw  P I take this opportunity to thank all of you who wrote so much letters about this huge project (none :-)   D. -- o6 MORANDI Consultants, Swiss Quality Computer Consulting6 avenue de Granges-Paccot 2, 1700 Fribourg  Switzerland1     Tel: +41.79.705.46.70 - Fax: +41.26.465.13.58n4  Visit our Web site at http://Didier.Morandi.Free.fr   ------------------------------   End of INFO-VAX 2001.205 ************************