1 INFO-VAX	Fri, 13 Apr 2001	Volume 2001 : Issue 207       Contents: Re: Another Win for OpenVMS $ Re: free disk space on a bound disks$ Re: free disk space on a bound disks- Re: KZCCA Ultrawide SCSI Adapters for the VAX - Re: KZCCA Ultrawide SCSI Adapters for the VAX  Re: KZPCA-AA Works fine !  Re: KZPCA-AA Works fine ! & Re: Need descriptions for part numbers& Re: Need descriptions for part numbers= Re: OpenVMS 7.2-2 and Oracle 8.1.7 - Unsupported combination? = Re: OpenVMS 7.2-2 and Oracle 8.1.7 - Unsupported combination? = Re: OpenVMS 7.2-2 and Oracle 8.1.7 - Unsupported combination? = Re: OpenVMS 7.2-2 and Oracle 8.1.7 - Unsupported combination? = Re: OpenVMS 7.2-2 and Oracle 8.1.7 - Unsupported combination? = Re: OpenVMS 7.2-2 and Oracle 8.1.7 - Unsupported combination? = Re: OpenVMS 7.2-2 and Oracle 8.1.7 - Unsupported combination? = Re: Rumour Has It That CHARLIE MATCO HAS RISEN FROM THE GRAVE   F ----------------------------------------------------------------------  % Date: Thu, 12 Apr 2001 18:04:51 -0500 1 From: "David J. Dachtera" <djesys.nospam@fsi.net> $ Subject: Re: Another Win for OpenVMS' Message-ID: <3AD63493.CA631F32@fsi.net>    Paul Sture wrote:  > I > In article <20010412103029.4664.qmail@nym.alias.net>, Doc.Cypher wrote: A > > On 07 Apr 2001, Paul Repacholi <prep@prep.synonet.com> wrote: ; > > >Doc.Cypher <Use-Author-Address-Header@[127.1]> writes:  > > > % > > >> Personally I liked this one...  > > >>= > > >> http://cold-dead-fish.com/reviews/worst_of_the_web.htm  > > >  > > >Droll, very droll.  > > > J > > >I'd hate to have to go a 'worst of the web'. Not know where to start,( > > >and do know that it will never end. > > / > > I was just looking for the best 404 by far.  > >  > > + > Try http://www.sevenelements.com/blahblah - > (any non-existant url at that site will do)  > J > Best viewed in full screen mode - wait to see what it does. Also try theG > tiny hyperlink found at the bottom right hand side of the second page  > displayed.   Try this one...    http://www.shibumi.org/eoti/   --   David J. Dachtera  dba DJE Systems  http://www.djesys.com/  : Unofficial Affordable OpenVMS Home Page and Message Board: http://www.djesys.com/vms/soho/   F This *IS* an OpenVMS-related newsgroup. So, a certain bias in postings is to be expected.  @ Feel free to exercise your rights of free speech and expression.  F However, attacks against individual posters, or groups of posters, are strongly discouraged.    ------------------------------  % Date: Thu, 12 Apr 2001 18:03:02 -0500 1 From: "David J. Dachtera" <djesys.nospam@fsi.net> - Subject: Re: free disk space on a bound disks ' Message-ID: <3AD63426.A557F075@fsi.net>    Carl Perkins wrote:  > 7 > "David J. Dachtera" <djesys.nospam@fsi.net> writes... = > }> Actually, it is easier to grab the freeware DFU utility.  > }>Q > }> This easily generates fragmentatio, disk utilization, and space free reports  > }> among other options.  > }> > }> No muss. No fuss. > }>5 > }> The freeware can be found on the Compaq VMS site ) > }> http://www.openvms.compaq.com/portal  > } : > }....but you'd be better off to get the newest DFU from: > } & > }http://www.djesys.com/freeware/vms/ > } ' > }Be sure to get the ECO-1 file, also.  > }  > }--  > }David J. Dachtera > G > That may be the case, but the place the above URL takes you to sucks. A > It is a listing of the directory. If you actually click on, for E > example, the "freeware.html" file (which one might naturally assume D > was an index to the stuff in this directory - note that DFU is notI > mentioned in the index.txt file that is also there) it redirects you to Q > the DJE Systems OpenVMS Freeware page (http://www.djesys.com/vms/freeware.html) @ > on which there is no DFU listed. Were you to start at the home@ > page and work your way down, via the "freeware" link, then theB > "Freeware for OpenVMS" link, this page that does not mention DFU@ > is also where you'd end up. Quite a difference between what isJ > in .../freeware/vms/ and what you can get to from .../vms/freeware.html. > E > So it seems that the only way to actually get to this newest DFU is C > to somehow know the magic URL you gave above that avoids all that H > nasty HTML stuff and just does a directory listing of the right place.@ > (Unless someone else, like the Compaq's OpenVMS freeware site,A > has also got this newest version - presumably it doesn't or you 0 > wouldn't have said not to go there to get it.)  D The directory URL is provided as a convenience until I get around to- updating the HTML. At least you can get it...    --   David J. Dachtera  dba DJE Systems  http://www.djesys.com/  : Unofficial Affordable OpenVMS Home Page and Message Board: http://www.djesys.com/vms/soho/   F This *IS* an OpenVMS-related newsgroup. So, a certain bias in postings is to be expected.  @ Feel free to exercise your rights of free speech and expression.  F However, attacks against individual posters, or groups of posters, are strongly discouraged.    ------------------------------  % Date: Thu, 12 Apr 2001 18:03:02 -0500 1 From: "David J. Dachtera" <djesys.nospam@fsi.net> - Subject: Re: free disk space on a bound disks ' Message-ID: <3AD63426.A557F075@fsi.net>    Carl Perkins wrote:  > 7 > "David J. Dachtera" <djesys.nospam@fsi.net> writes... = > }> Actually, it is easier to grab the freeware DFU utility.  > }>Q > }> This easily generates fragmentatio, disk utilization, and space free reports  > }> among other options.  > }> > }> No muss. No fuss. > }>5 > }> The freeware can be found on the Compaq VMS site ) > }> http://www.openvms.compaq.com/portal  > } : > }....but you'd be better off to get the newest DFU from: > } & > }http://www.djesys.com/freeware/vms/ > } ' > }Be sure to get the ECO-1 file, also.  > }  > }--  > }David J. Dachtera > G > That may be the case, but the place the above URL takes you to sucks. A > It is a listing of the directory. If you actually click on, for E > example, the "freeware.html" file (which one might naturally assume D > was an index to the stuff in this directory - note that DFU is notI > mentioned in the index.txt file that is also there) it redirects you to Q > the DJE Systems OpenVMS Freeware page (http://www.djesys.com/vms/freeware.html) @ > on which there is no DFU listed. Were you to start at the home@ > page and work your way down, via the "freeware" link, then theB > "Freeware for OpenVMS" link, this page that does not mention DFU@ > is also where you'd end up. Quite a difference between what isJ > in .../freeware/vms/ and what you can get to from .../vms/freeware.html. > E > So it seems that the only way to actually get to this newest DFU is C > to somehow know the magic URL you gave above that avoids all that H > nasty HTML stuff and just does a directory listing of the right place.@ > (Unless someone else, like the Compaq's OpenVMS freeware site,A > has also got this newest version - presumably it doesn't or you 0 > wouldn't have said not to go there to get it.)  D The directory URL is provided as a convenience until I get around to- updating the HTML. At least you can get it...    --   David J. Dachtera  dba DJE Systems  http://www.djesys.com/  : Unofficial Affordable OpenVMS Home Page and Message Board: http://www.djesys.com/vms/soho/   F This *IS* an OpenVMS-related newsgroup. So, a certain bias in postings is to be expected.  @ Feel free to exercise your rights of free speech and expression.  F However, attacks against individual posters, or groups of posters, are strongly discouraged.    ------------------------------  % Date: Thu, 12 Apr 2001 16:02:06 -0700 + From: "Barry Treahy, Jr." <treahy@mmaz.com> 6 Subject: Re: KZCCA Ultrawide SCSI Adapters for the VAX( Message-ID: <3AD633EE.A7275B73@mmaz.com>  D Yes, I just recently learned of them as an option.  After your priorG post, I suspect that much of our equipment combined, if we sold it to a H resaler today, would not fetch what they want for a single adapter which is $5k.    Seems a bit out of balance, eh?    Barry    Brian Tillman wrote:  E > >Allow me to toss out another question.  I need good Ultrawide SCSI / > >performance for a VAX 4000/100 and 4000/705.  > ; > Nemonix markets a VAX-based fast SCSI adapter.  See it at  > http://www.nemonixinc.com/ > --C > Brian Tillman                   Internet: tillman_brian at si.com C > Smiths Aerospace                          tillman at swdev.si.com ? > 3290 Patterson Ave. SE, MS      Addresses modified to prevent > > Grand Rapids, MI 49512-1991     SPAM.  Replace "at" with "@": >        This opinion doesn't represent that of my company   --  ? Barry Treahy, Jr  *  Midwest Microwave  *  Vice President & CIO   A E-mail: Treahy@mmaz.com * Phone: 480/314-1320 * FAX: 480/661-7028    ------------------------------  % Date: Thu, 12 Apr 2001 16:02:06 -0700 + From: "Barry Treahy, Jr." <treahy@mmaz.com> 6 Subject: Re: KZCCA Ultrawide SCSI Adapters for the VAX( Message-ID: <3AD633EE.A7275B73@mmaz.com>  D Yes, I just recently learned of them as an option.  After your priorG post, I suspect that much of our equipment combined, if we sold it to a H resaler today, would not fetch what they want for a single adapter which is $5k.    Seems a bit out of balance, eh?    Barry    Brian Tillman wrote:  E > >Allow me to toss out another question.  I need good Ultrawide SCSI / > >performance for a VAX 4000/100 and 4000/705.  > ; > Nemonix markets a VAX-based fast SCSI adapter.  See it at  > http://www.nemonixinc.com/ > --C > Brian Tillman                   Internet: tillman_brian at si.com C > Smiths Aerospace                          tillman at swdev.si.com ? > 3290 Patterson Ave. SE, MS      Addresses modified to prevent > > Grand Rapids, MI 49512-1991     SPAM.  Replace "at" with "@": >        This opinion doesn't represent that of my company   --  ? Barry Treahy, Jr  *  Midwest Microwave  *  Vice President & CIO   A E-mail: Treahy@mmaz.com * Phone: 480/314-1320 * FAX: 480/661-7028    ------------------------------  # Date: Thu, 12 Apr 2001 22:57:47 GMT 2 From: "Zane H. Healy" <healyzh@shell1.aracnet.com>" Subject: Re: KZPCA-AA Works fine !4 Message-ID: <LpqB6.951$Hp.43048@typhoon.aracnet.com>  + islandco.com <dbturner@islandco.com> wrote: E > Installed a KZPCA-AA in PWS433, 500 and 600, XP1000 DS20 and AS1200    > Works fine in all instances    What version of OpenVMS?  H > We are evaluating some other cheap boards next week also: 53C895 based > U2Wide cards, no name   M > WIll post results - this is a replacement for KZPBA-CA if it works for only  > about $200  H Is that ~$200 for the KZPCA-AA or the no name 53C895 based U2Wide cards?   		Zane   ------------------------------  # Date: Thu, 12 Apr 2001 22:57:47 GMT 2 From: "Zane H. Healy" <healyzh@shell1.aracnet.com>" Subject: Re: KZPCA-AA Works fine !4 Message-ID: <LpqB6.951$Hp.43048@typhoon.aracnet.com>  + islandco.com <dbturner@islandco.com> wrote: E > Installed a KZPCA-AA in PWS433, 500 and 600, XP1000 DS20 and AS1200    > Works fine in all instances    What version of OpenVMS?  H > We are evaluating some other cheap boards next week also: 53C895 based > U2Wide cards, no name   M > WIll post results - this is a replacement for KZPBA-CA if it works for only  > about $200  H Is that ~$200 for the KZPCA-AA or the no name 53C895 based U2Wide cards?   		Zane   ------------------------------  % Date: Thu, 12 Apr 2001 18:47:43 -0400 2 From: norm lastovica <norman.lastovica@oracle.com>/ Subject: Re: Need descriptions for part numbers * Message-ID: <3AD6308F.2C195FD7@oracle.com>  . a little searching at www.google.com yields...   Tom Steuver wrote: > M > I just acquired a VAX 4000-600 system.  The system has a number of cards in N > it that I'm not familiar with.  Does anyone know what these cards are or how > I can find out?  > 	 > CXY08-M   ' 	serial line interface (8 port I think)   
 > DSV11-SA  0 	Serial Line interface (I don't recall how many)   > TQK70    	internal TK70 interface  
 > KLESI-SA  . 	tape interface (talks with TU80, for example)     --  > norman lastovica / oracle rdb engineering / usa / 610.696.4685   ------------------------------  % Date: Thu, 12 Apr 2001 18:47:43 -0400 2 From: norm lastovica <norman.lastovica@oracle.com>/ Subject: Re: Need descriptions for part numbers * Message-ID: <3AD6308F.2C195FD7@oracle.com>  . a little searching at www.google.com yields...   Tom Steuver wrote: > M > I just acquired a VAX 4000-600 system.  The system has a number of cards in N > it that I'm not familiar with.  Does anyone know what these cards are or how > I can find out?  > 	 > CXY08-M   ' 	serial line interface (8 port I think)   
 > DSV11-SA  0 	Serial Line interface (I don't recall how many)   > TQK70    	internal TK70 interface  
 > KLESI-SA  . 	tape interface (talks with TU80, for example)     --  > norman lastovica / oracle rdb engineering / usa / 610.696.4685   ------------------------------  # Date: Thu, 12 Apr 2001 23:10:54 GMT  From: Dirk Munk <munk@home.nl>F Subject: Re: OpenVMS 7.2-2 and Oracle 8.1.7 - Unsupported combination?' Message-ID: <3AD635FA.99AF16F5@home.nl>    Sean O'Banion wrote:  I > There have been some independent statements from Compaq and Oracle that - > seem to lead us into a difficult situation:  > J > Compaq: Support of VMS 7.2-1 will end at the end of 2001, and 7.2-2 will  > be the supported level of 7.2.  I Is there a 7.2.2. release coming ? It is my understanding that 7.3 can be C launched any moment now, and work on 7.3.1 is already far advanced.   F But even if a 7.2.2. release is coming, I suppose it will be more of aG buf-fix release without serious changes that could endanger the correct  working of Oracle.  D  It is more likely that Oracle doesn't like to go through the entireH expensive certification process for every minor upgrade of VMS, so theirH official statement is "not supported". But you can always ask Oracle andB Compaq if any issues regarding Oracle 8.1.7 / VMS 7.2.2 are known.  J And at the end of the year the 9i Oracle release should be available too I suppose.           >  > : > Oracle: Oracle 8.1.7 will NOT be certified on VMS 7.2-2. > H > Us: We must decide by next week (you don't really want to know why) ifI > we are going to upgrade from Oracle 7.3.x.x to 8.1.7 by the end of this I > year.  Since the 7.2-2 kit will not be released for a couple of months, I > there is no way we can evaluate how serious the changes are, or be able = > to determine the risk of running Oracle 8.1.7 on VMS 7.2-2.  > * > Does anybody know what the situation is?5 > Are the groups in VMS and Oracle talking this over?  >  > Sean   ------------------------------  # Date: Thu, 12 Apr 2001 23:10:54 GMT  From: Dirk Munk <munk@home.nl>F Subject: Re: OpenVMS 7.2-2 and Oracle 8.1.7 - Unsupported combination?' Message-ID: <3AD635FA.99AF16F5@home.nl>    Sean O'Banion wrote:  I > There have been some independent statements from Compaq and Oracle that - > seem to lead us into a difficult situation:  > J > Compaq: Support of VMS 7.2-1 will end at the end of 2001, and 7.2-2 will  > be the supported level of 7.2.  I Is there a 7.2.2. release coming ? It is my understanding that 7.3 can be C launched any moment now, and work on 7.3.1 is already far advanced.   F But even if a 7.2.2. release is coming, I suppose it will be more of aG buf-fix release without serious changes that could endanger the correct  working of Oracle.  D  It is more likely that Oracle doesn't like to go through the entireH expensive certification process for every minor upgrade of VMS, so theirH official statement is "not supported". But you can always ask Oracle andB Compaq if any issues regarding Oracle 8.1.7 / VMS 7.2.2 are known.  J And at the end of the year the 9i Oracle release should be available too I suppose.           >  > : > Oracle: Oracle 8.1.7 will NOT be certified on VMS 7.2-2. > H > Us: We must decide by next week (you don't really want to know why) ifI > we are going to upgrade from Oracle 7.3.x.x to 8.1.7 by the end of this I > year.  Since the 7.2-2 kit will not be released for a couple of months, I > there is no way we can evaluate how serious the changes are, or be able = > to determine the risk of running Oracle 8.1.7 on VMS 7.2-2.  > * > Does anybody know what the situation is?5 > Are the groups in VMS and Oracle talking this over?  >  > Sean   ------------------------------  # Date: Thu, 12 Apr 2001 23:10:54 GMTe From: Dirk Munk <munk@home.nl>F Subject: Re: OpenVMS 7.2-2 and Oracle 8.1.7 - Unsupported combination?' Message-ID: <3AD635FA.99AF16F5@home.nl>W   Sean O'Banion wrote:  I > There have been some independent statements from Compaq and Oracle thatn- > seem to lead us into a difficult situation:e >1J > Compaq: Support of VMS 7.2-1 will end at the end of 2001, and 7.2-2 will  > be the supported level of 7.2.  I Is there a 7.2.2. release coming ? It is my understanding that 7.3 can beeC launched any moment now, and work on 7.3.1 is already far advanced.7  F But even if a 7.2.2. release is coming, I suppose it will be more of aG buf-fix release without serious changes that could endanger the correcti working of Oracle.  D  It is more likely that Oracle doesn't like to go through the entireH expensive certification process for every minor upgrade of VMS, so theirH official statement is "not supported". But you can always ask Oracle andB Compaq if any issues regarding Oracle 8.1.7 / VMS 7.2.2 are known.  J And at the end of the year the 9i Oracle release should be available too I suppose.           >y >r: > Oracle: Oracle 8.1.7 will NOT be certified on VMS 7.2-2. >.H > Us: We must decide by next week (you don't really want to know why) ifI > we are going to upgrade from Oracle 7.3.x.x to 8.1.7 by the end of thisdI > year.  Since the 7.2-2 kit will not be released for a couple of months,lI > there is no way we can evaluate how serious the changes are, or be ablee= > to determine the risk of running Oracle 8.1.7 on VMS 7.2-2.  >a* > Does anybody know what the situation is?5 > Are the groups in VMS and Oracle talking this over?  >a > Sean   ------------------------------  # Date: Thu, 12 Apr 2001 23:10:54 GMT  From: Dirk Munk <munk@home.nl>F Subject: Re: OpenVMS 7.2-2 and Oracle 8.1.7 - Unsupported combination?' Message-ID: <3AD635FA.99AF16F5@home.nl>.   Sean O'Banion wrote:  I > There have been some independent statements from Compaq and Oracle thato- > seem to lead us into a difficult situation:n >eJ > Compaq: Support of VMS 7.2-1 will end at the end of 2001, and 7.2-2 will  > be the supported level of 7.2.  I Is there a 7.2.2. release coming ? It is my understanding that 7.3 can bepC launched any moment now, and work on 7.3.1 is already far advanced.o  F But even if a 7.2.2. release is coming, I suppose it will be more of aG buf-fix release without serious changes that could endanger the correcte working of Oracle.  D  It is more likely that Oracle doesn't like to go through the entireH expensive certification process for every minor upgrade of VMS, so theirH official statement is "not supported". But you can always ask Oracle andB Compaq if any issues regarding Oracle 8.1.7 / VMS 7.2.2 are known.  J And at the end of the year the 9i Oracle release should be available too I suppose.           >o >s: > Oracle: Oracle 8.1.7 will NOT be certified on VMS 7.2-2. > H > Us: We must decide by next week (you don't really want to know why) ifI > we are going to upgrade from Oracle 7.3.x.x to 8.1.7 by the end of thisrI > year.  Since the 7.2-2 kit will not be released for a couple of months,vI > there is no way we can evaluate how serious the changes are, or be ablee= > to determine the risk of running Oracle 8.1.7 on VMS 7.2-2.t >l* > Does anybody know what the situation is?5 > Are the groups in VMS and Oracle talking this over?i >x > Sean   ------------------------------  # Date: Thu, 12 Apr 2001 23:10:54 GMTt From: Dirk Munk <munk@home.nl>F Subject: Re: OpenVMS 7.2-2 and Oracle 8.1.7 - Unsupported combination?' Message-ID: <3AD635FA.99AF16F5@home.nl>t   Sean O'Banion wrote:  I > There have been some independent statements from Compaq and Oracle thate- > seem to lead us into a difficult situation:, >iJ > Compaq: Support of VMS 7.2-1 will end at the end of 2001, and 7.2-2 will  > be the supported level of 7.2.  I Is there a 7.2.2. release coming ? It is my understanding that 7.3 can be C launched any moment now, and work on 7.3.1 is already far advanced.s  F But even if a 7.2.2. release is coming, I suppose it will be more of aG buf-fix release without serious changes that could endanger the correct  working of Oracle.  D  It is more likely that Oracle doesn't like to go through the entireH expensive certification process for every minor upgrade of VMS, so theirH official statement is "not supported". But you can always ask Oracle andB Compaq if any issues regarding Oracle 8.1.7 / VMS 7.2.2 are known.  J And at the end of the year the 9i Oracle release should be available too I suppose.           >  >s: > Oracle: Oracle 8.1.7 will NOT be certified on VMS 7.2-2. >eH > Us: We must decide by next week (you don't really want to know why) ifI > we are going to upgrade from Oracle 7.3.x.x to 8.1.7 by the end of thiseI > year.  Since the 7.2-2 kit will not be released for a couple of months,yI > there is no way we can evaluate how serious the changes are, or be able1= > to determine the risk of running Oracle 8.1.7 on VMS 7.2-2.t > * > Does anybody know what the situation is?5 > Are the groups in VMS and Oracle talking this over?r >s > Sean   ------------------------------  # Date: Thu, 12 Apr 2001 23:10:54 GMTa From: Dirk Munk <munk@home.nl>F Subject: Re: OpenVMS 7.2-2 and Oracle 8.1.7 - Unsupported combination?' Message-ID: <3AD635FA.99AF16F5@home.nl>    Sean O'Banion wrote:  I > There have been some independent statements from Compaq and Oracle thato- > seem to lead us into a difficult situation:c >pJ > Compaq: Support of VMS 7.2-1 will end at the end of 2001, and 7.2-2 will  > be the supported level of 7.2.  I Is there a 7.2.2. release coming ? It is my understanding that 7.3 can bevC launched any moment now, and work on 7.3.1 is already far advanced.R  F But even if a 7.2.2. release is coming, I suppose it will be more of aG buf-fix release without serious changes that could endanger the correctt working of Oracle.  D  It is more likely that Oracle doesn't like to go through the entireH expensive certification process for every minor upgrade of VMS, so theirH official statement is "not supported". But you can always ask Oracle andB Compaq if any issues regarding Oracle 8.1.7 / VMS 7.2.2 are known.  J And at the end of the year the 9i Oracle release should be available too I suppose.           >t > : > Oracle: Oracle 8.1.7 will NOT be certified on VMS 7.2-2. >uH > Us: We must decide by next week (you don't really want to know why) ifI > we are going to upgrade from Oracle 7.3.x.x to 8.1.7 by the end of thisaI > year.  Since the 7.2-2 kit will not be released for a couple of months,eI > there is no way we can evaluate how serious the changes are, or be ablel= > to determine the risk of running Oracle 8.1.7 on VMS 7.2-2.m >'* > Does anybody know what the situation is?5 > Are the groups in VMS and Oracle talking this over?l >t > Sean   ------------------------------  # Date: Thu, 12 Apr 2001 23:10:54 GMTe From: Dirk Munk <munk@home.nl>F Subject: Re: OpenVMS 7.2-2 and Oracle 8.1.7 - Unsupported combination?' Message-ID: <3AD635FA.99AF16F5@home.nl>/   Sean O'Banion wrote:  I > There have been some independent statements from Compaq and Oracle thath- > seem to lead us into a difficult situation:t > J > Compaq: Support of VMS 7.2-1 will end at the end of 2001, and 7.2-2 will  > be the supported level of 7.2.  I Is there a 7.2.2. release coming ? It is my understanding that 7.3 can beyC launched any moment now, and work on 7.3.1 is already far advanced.   F But even if a 7.2.2. release is coming, I suppose it will be more of aG buf-fix release without serious changes that could endanger the correct7 working of Oracle.  D  It is more likely that Oracle doesn't like to go through the entireH expensive certification process for every minor upgrade of VMS, so theirH official statement is "not supported". But you can always ask Oracle andB Compaq if any issues regarding Oracle 8.1.7 / VMS 7.2.2 are known.  J And at the end of the year the 9i Oracle release should be available too I suppose.           >r >V: > Oracle: Oracle 8.1.7 will NOT be certified on VMS 7.2-2. >aH > Us: We must decide by next week (you don't really want to know why) ifI > we are going to upgrade from Oracle 7.3.x.x to 8.1.7 by the end of thissI > year.  Since the 7.2-2 kit will not be released for a couple of months,eI > there is no way we can evaluate how serious the changes are, or be able = > to determine the risk of running Oracle 8.1.7 on VMS 7.2-2.  >r* > Does anybody know what the situation is?5 > Are the groups in VMS and Oracle talking this over?  >- > Sean   ------------------------------  % Date: Thu, 12 Apr 2001 15:56:55 -0700-+ From: "Barry Treahy, Jr." <treahy@mmaz.com>2F Subject: Re: Rumour Has It That CHARLIE MATCO HAS RISEN FROM THE GRAVE( Message-ID: <3AD632B7.BAD8BF35@mmaz.com>   Brian Tillman wrote:  F > >But I haven't seen a VAX in more than a decade. When the flock wake1 > >up to alternatives the tide turns pretty fast!u >eM > Then you haven't stopped by our data center.  We have three VAX 4000-505As, M > two VAX 7000-30s, and two VAX 4000-305s.  We have them because THE SOFTWARErK > WE RUN DOESN'T EXIST FOR THE ALPHA.  Vendors WON'T PORT!!  Get it??  WhateH > does it matter if the Alpha were to run at 3 THz?  If the applications. > aren't there, the CPU isn't either.  Period.  + Hear, hear!  I second Brian's statements!!!    --  ? Barry Treahy, Jr  *  Midwest Microwave  *  Vice President & CIO   A E-mail: Treahy@mmaz.com * Phone: 480/314-1320 * FAX: 480/661-7028    ------------------------------   End of INFO-VAX 2001.207 ************************