1 INFO-VAX	Fri, 20 Apr 2001	Volume 2001 : Issue 221       Contents:' Re: - OpenVMS ever to be on Intel chip? ' Re: - OpenVMS ever to be on Intel chip? ' Re: - OpenVMS ever to be on Intel chip? ' Re: - OpenVMS ever to be on Intel chip? , Re: 1GHz Alpha EV68CB Microprocessor Exposed, Re: 1GHz Alpha EV68CB Microprocessor Exposed, Re: 1GHz Alpha EV68CB Microprocessor Exposed, Re: 1GHz Alpha EV68CB Microprocessor Exposed, Re: 1GHz Alpha EV68CB Microprocessor Exposed, Re: 1GHz Alpha EV68CB Microprocessor Exposed, Re: 1GHz Alpha EV68CB Microprocessor Exposed, Re: 1GHz Alpha EV68CB Microprocessor ExposedP Re: =?iso-8859-1?Q?Z=FCrich?= Tech Seminar (was: London, England	Technical	TechnP Re: =?iso-8859-1?Q?Z=FCrich?= Tech Seminar (was: London, England	TechnicalTechniP Re:=?iso-8859-1?q?Z=FCrich_Tech_Seminar_=28was=3A_London=2C_England?= TechnicalT( Re: C++ RTL pb at AST level execution..., Re: Re: C++ RTL pb at AST level execution... Re: Compaq getting the message? 6 Compaq watch: radio ads and Inform - mostly good news.: Re: Compaq watch: radio ads and Inform - mostly good news. DCE 1.5 for OpenVMS AXP 7.2 " Re: Driving an HP Laserjet 4100DTN" Re: Driving an HP Laserjet 4100DTN( Error compressing large files on OpenVMS" Re: FreeVMS for AMD a pipe dream ?) Re: Listing all the mailboxes on a system ) Re: Listing all the mailboxes on a system ) Re: Listing all the mailboxes on a system ) Re: Listing all the mailboxes on a system ) Re: Listing all the mailboxes on a system ) Re: Listing all the mailboxes on a system ) Re: Listing all the mailboxes on a system $ Re: MAIL$SEND_ADD_ATTRIBUTE ("From")$ Re: MAIL$SEND_ADD_ATTRIBUTE ("From")* Main production system crashed - continued. RE: Main production system crashed - continued. Re: Main production system crashed - continued. Re: Main production system crashed - continued% Management Musical Chairs in the BCSG < Re: MOD_SSL.EXE_ALPHA is missing in CSWS V1.0-1 distribution/ Re: OpenVMS article - please explain last line! / RE: OpenVMS article - please explain last line! ' Re: OpenVMS equiv of UNIX  pipe Command ' Re: OpenVMS equiv of UNIX  pipe Command ' Re: OpenVMS equiv of UNIX  pipe Command  Outstanding News for OpenVMS! ! Re: Outstanding News for OpenVMS!  Re: Printer recommendations 0 Re: Problem of not being able to send SMTP email	 ps to pdf 
 RE: ps to pdf  shadow_server logicals SHAREWARE: txt2pdf 4.5 Re: Spammed by I-S-E today, Re: Using 3-phase power converters on VAXen?, RE: Using 3-phase power converters on VAXen?$ Re: VAX Models : How to be specific? Re: VLCs Re: VLCs5 Re: Why is this a Bad Thing? (was: Future Computing.) 0 Re: [BUG?] FREEWARE CD MENU: license expired :-(2 Re: [BUG] wrong APACHE file location after install2 Re: [BUG] wrong APACHE file location after install2 Re: [BUG] wrong APACHE file location after install2 Re: [BUG] wrong APACHE file location after install2 Re: [BUG] wrong APACHE file location after install" Re: [Q] Making Perl work with CSWS" Re: [Q] Making Perl work with CSWS" Re: [Q] Making Perl work with CSWS  [Q] Mozilla does not like proxy?, [Q] X Toolkit Warning: Cannot convert string  F ----------------------------------------------------------------------  % Date: Fri, 20 Apr 2001 14:02:59 +0100 C From: "Lock Horsburgh" <lock@lhorsburgh.NO.RUBBISH.freeserve.co.uk> 0 Subject: Re: - OpenVMS ever to be on Intel chip?/ Message-ID: <9bpc3v$239$1@newsg4.svr.pol.co.uk>   K I'm new to this NG, so please forgive me if I am going back over a familiar > (to you) topic, but I never heard of this VMS on Intel before.  4 Does this really mean you can run VAX stuff on a PC?' Under windows/dos/linux, or instead of?  Dual boot possible? G Does this mean you can carry a VMS app around on a laptop, or is it not  quite that simple?   What does it cost?  = You mentioned downloads and Software Resources International.   + Is there a URL where I could find out more?      Lock Horsburgh    8 "Bill Pedersen" <pedersen@ccsscorp.com> wrote in message3 news:3acf59c3$0$830$8eec23a@newsreader.tycho.net...  > Motivation is: > H >     1) the continued support of existing OpenVMS VAX based applicationI > without port to OpenVMS Alpha - especially long term given there are no , > longer any VAX systems being manufactured. > 2 >     2) small, portable development environments. > C > These are the primary draw that I see for the product at present.  > I > There does seem to be some interest in it, in talking with the folks at L > Software Resources International they see between 100 and 200 downloads of > the hobbyiest version DAILY. > J > SMP is not the direction being pursued at the present time.  It uses SMPH > already in that each thread in the emulator (each device) is a thread. >  > -- > Bill Pedersen  > CCSS Corporation > www.CCSScorp.com > 831-336-2708 >  > 5 > "bill davidsen" <davidsen@tmr.com> wrote in message 6 > news:9aktmn$2nkq$1@newssvr05-en0.news.prodigy.com...= > > In article <3acde9fa$0$838$8eec23a@newsreader.tycho.net>, 0 > > Bill Pedersen <pedersen@ccsscorp.com> wrote:2 > > | ELN has been run on the Charon-VAX emulator. > > | G > > | Am currently working with a couple customers with the emulator on 	 > OpenVMS J > > | Alpha for support of OpenVMS VAX applications which they do not wish to$ > > | migrate (or can not) to Alpha. > > | H > > | Newest version (MV3500/3600) which supports 64MB is still in beta. > > |  > > | Looks JUST LIKE A VAX. > > | L > > | Issues are, of course, the extra network adapter and a console device. > OnL > > | workstation console can be another x-window.  On server have developedK > > | technique of using a LAT device is applicaiton mode as the "console".  > > B > >   I'd re-ask the previous question, can SMP be used to improveI > > performance? And given the relative price and performance of ia86 vs. J > > Alpha, isn't the market limited to people who need to run VAX softwareH > > (VMS? OpenUNIX?) but can't or won't use a real VAX? If the markey isJ > > people who can't afford a VAX, I would guess the price of the softwareH > > is going to have to be pretty low or they can't afford that, either. > > K > >   Those are questions, not comments or anything, I'm just curious about & > > the implementation and motivation. > >  > > --@ > >   bill davidsen <davidsen@tmr.com>  CTO, TMR Associates, IncK > > "I am lost. I am out looking for myself. If I should come back before I ? > > return, please ask me to wait."  -seen in a doctor's office  >  >    ------------------------------    Date: 20 Apr 2001 22:07:07 +0800, From: Paul Repacholi <prep@prep.synonet.com>0 Subject: Re: - OpenVMS ever to be on Intel chip?- Message-ID: <87n19boeb8.fsf@prep.synonet.com>   E "Lock Horsburgh" <lock@lhorsburgh.NO.RUBBISH.freeserve.co.uk> writes:   D > I'm new to this NG, so please forgive me if I am going back over aA > familiar (to you) topic, but I never heard of this VMS on Intel 	 > before.   6 > Does this really mean you can run VAX stuff on a PC?   No  ) > Under windows/dos/linux, or instead of?    No   > Dual boot possible?    No  I > Does this mean you can carry a VMS app around on a laptop, or is it not  > quite that simple?   Yes, see below.    > What does it cost?  @ You need to find an Alphabook owner, club the 20 people lined upF behind him, and then beat him to death and steal the Alphabook. Beware  of c.o.vms readers behind you :)  F On a slightly more serious note. There is a Vax emulation, Charon Vax, for PC machines.     --  < Paul Repacholi                               1 Crescent Rd.,7 +61 (08) 9257-1001                           Kalamunda. @                                              West Australia 6076. Raw, Cooked or Well-done, it's all half baked.   ------------------------------  # Date: Fri, 20 Apr 2001 14:06:34 GMT - From: goathunter@goatley.com (Hunter Goatley) 0 Subject: Re: - OpenVMS ever to be on Intel chip?1 Message-ID: <3ae041f6.401817322@swen.process.com>   4 On Fri, 20 Apr 2001 14:02:59 +0100, "Lock Horsburgh"3 <lock@lhorsburgh.NO.RUBBISH.freeserve.co.uk> wrote:   L >I'm new to this NG, so please forgive me if I am going back over a familiar? >(to you) topic, but I never heard of this VMS on Intel before.  > 5 >Does this really mean you can run VAX stuff on a PC?    Yes.  ( >Under windows/dos/linux, or instead of?   Under Windows 2000.    >Dual boot possible?  @ CHARON-VAX runs as an application under Windows, which means youD can still do Windows too.  CHARON-VAX does chew up CPU time, though,$ so your Windows apps will be slower.  H >Does this mean you can carry a VMS app around on a laptop, or is it not >quite that simple?  > H It means you can carry a VMS system around on a laptop, running whateverG apps you want to run.  A container file is used for the system disk and  other disks.   >What does it cost?  >  Check the web site.   > >You mentioned downloads and Software Resources International. > , >Is there a URL where I could find out more? >  http://www.charon-vax.com/   Hunter ------9 Hunter Goatley, Process Software, http://www.process.com/ 9 goathunter@goatley.com     http://www.goatley.com/hunter/    ------------------------------  # Date: Fri, 20 Apr 2001 15:55:25 GMT - From: goathunter@goatley.com (Hunter Goatley) 0 Subject: Re: - OpenVMS ever to be on Intel chip?1 Message-ID: <3ae05bb4.408407549@swen.process.com>   P On Fri, 20 Apr 2001 14:06:34 GMT, goathunter@goatley.com (Hunter Goatley) wrote:  5 >On Fri, 20 Apr 2001 14:02:59 +0100, "Lock Horsburgh" 4 ><lock@lhorsburgh.NO.RUBBISH.freeserve.co.uk> wrote: > M >>I'm new to this NG, so please forgive me if I am going back over a familiar @ >>(to you) topic, but I never heard of this VMS on Intel before. >>6 >>Does this really mean you can run VAX stuff on a PC? >  >Yes.  > > After seeing Paul's reply, I realized that I answered based onB the assumption that Lock was asking specifically about CHARON-VAX.- Hence the yes/no matching on our replies. ;-)    Hunter ------9 Hunter Goatley, Process Software, http://www.process.com/ 9 goathunter@goatley.com     http://www.goatley.com/hunter/    ------------------------------  # Date: Fri, 20 Apr 2001 06:00:29 GMT  From: Dirk Munk <munk@home.nl>5 Subject: Re: 1GHz Alpha EV68CB Microprocessor Exposed ' Message-ID: <3ADFD07C.736E895D@home.nl>    cjt & trefoil wrote:  E > To crossover threads slightly with another one here on comp.os.vms, D > is it going to require a three phase power converter to drive one?  N If you mean the ES45 , the answer is no AFAIK. It looks very much like a ES40,M and that runs on single phase 230V of here in Europe. Although it can have up L to 4 (?) power supplies, and it is possible to connect the power supplies toJ different phases. So in case one phase goes down, you can keep the machineM running on the other phase. Over here a 19" cabinet usualy has 2 power cables N with 32A CEE form single phase plugs coming from its switchbox, and we connect! these cables to different phases.      >  >  > Terry C Shannon wrote: > > ) > > On 20 Apr 2001, Paul Repacholi wrote:  > > 5 > > > JF Mezei <jfmezei.spamnot@videotron.ca> writes:  > > >  > > > > Dirk Munk wrote: > > > L > > > > > We know that 1.6 GHz alpha's already were in existence more than aK > > > > > year ago. So producing a reliable 1 GHz system should be possible L > > > > > by know. AFAIK the 1.01 GHz ES45 should be out in a few weeks from > > > > > now. > > > % > > > That is good news, if it is so.  > > > K > > Alas, it does not appear to be the way things are gonna be. ES45s do in J > > fact exist (have seen same, back in January IIRC) but the original MayH > > launch date has been pushed out to 4CQ01. Apparently it's supply andK > > demand: all the early system orders have been placed by HPTC customers, C > > and CPQ can't satisfy the existing orders until late this year.  > > L > > Rather than announce now and deliver in November, CPQ chose to delay theM > > announcement. There obviously is more to the matter than just speeding up H > > the assembly lines, else CPQ would be doing just that. Especially in2 > > light of what's happening in the Wintel space. > > K > > > BTW, anyone know the details of the package for the new 264? It seems : > > > to be quite a change from what has been used so far. > > >  > > M > > Well, it weighs more than its predecessor and it's larger. Also difficult 7 > > to de-lid or peel apart as was done for the photos.  > > L > > This is the second version of EV68B I've seen. The one that fell into myC > > hands back in October Y2K did not have pins stickin' out of it.    ------------------------------  % Date: Fri, 20 Apr 2001 11:19:44 +0200 5 From: Martin Knoblauch <Martin.Knoblauch@TeraPort.de> 5 Subject: Re: 1GHz Alpha EV68CB Microprocessor Exposed + Message-ID: <3ADFFF30.15FE15D2@TeraPort.de>   , This is a multi-part message in MIME format.& --------------9D92B2FF6EF600CC1635F745* Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit    JF Mezei wrote:  >  > "Main, Kerry" wrote: > O > The reason I asked is that Alphe seems to get large increments with very long L > periods of no news in between, so the chip tends to get forgotten and this> > doesn't help those trying to quell rumours of Alpha's death. > M > Which made me wonder just how difficult it would be for Compaq to release a M > few improved alphas (just higher mhz, no new features) in between the major K > revisions. That would give Alpha better visibility in the marketplace and 6 > would help it keep up with the 8086 game controller.  7  you have to compare hom many people are working on CPU B design/improvement at COMPAQ and INTEL. If COMPAQ would hire a fewG additional *teams* to just do the small increments necessary to satisfy H the marketing effort .... Not even talking about the system tweaking andD testing. COMPAQ is more or less the only major Alpha system builder,C while in the INTEL case a lot of additional resources are doing the  system level debugging/tuning.  G  And finally, it may help INTEL that they have much closer control over D the process technology. It may cost a lot, but then it is their coreH business. Look at some of the architectures that have design and processF technology separated (Alpha, MIPS). They all take a long tinme to evenB make nonimpressive clock improvements (what does that mean anyway,D besides marketing :-(. Still they are not that bad performance wise.   Martin --  B ------------------------------------------------------------------B Martin Knoblauch         |    email:  Martin.Knoblauch@TeraPort.de7 TeraPort GmbH            |    Phone:  +49-89-510857-309 7 IT Services              |    Fax:    +49-89-510857-111 5 http://www.teraport.de   |    Mobile: +49-170-4904759 & --------------9D92B2FF6EF600CC1635F745- Content-Type: text/x-vcard; charset=us-ascii;   name="Martin.Knoblauch.vcf" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit . Content-Description: Card for Martin Knoblauch  Content-Disposition: attachment;   filename="Martin.Knoblauch.vcf"   begin:vcard  n:Knoblauch;Martin tel;cell:+49-170-4904759 tel;fax:+49-89-510857-111  tel;work:+49-89-510857-309 x-mozilla-html:FALSE url:http://www.teraport.de org:TeraPort GmbH;IT-Services 8 adr:;;Garmischer Strae 4;Mnchen;Bayern;D-80339;Germany version:2.1 + email;internet:Martin.Knoblauch@TeraPort.de  title:Senior System Engineer x-mozilla-cpt:;32160 fn:Martin Knoblauch 	 end:vcard   ( --------------9D92B2FF6EF600CC1635F745--   ------------------------------  % Date: Fri, 20 Apr 2001 05:38:31 -0400 - From: JF Mezei <jfmezei.spamnot@videotron.ca> 5 Subject: Re: 1GHz Alpha EV68CB Microprocessor Exposed , Message-ID: <3AE00392.C411F3AC@videotron.ca>   Paul DeMone wrote:C > HP ported it from their 0.5 um process to Intel's 0.25 um process B > (PA-8500) it originally simulated maxxing out at 275 MHz (it ranD > up to 180 MHz in 0.5 um). It took a heck of a lot of work to bring@ > it up to the 400 MHz targeted release frequency. It eventuallyE > topped out at 440 MHz. More work and a Leff process tweak lifted it  > to 552 MHz (PA-8600).     L That is my point. Instead of waiting for the ALPHA to be fully ported to theF new process, couldn't they have generated a "early port" with a slightK increase in mhz without any redesign, and then later release the fine-tuned 6 chip that can take full advantage of the new process ?   ------------------------------    Date: 20 Apr 2001 06:53:24 -05009 From: Kilgallen@eisner.decus.org.nospam (Larry Kilgallen) 5 Subject: Re: 1GHz Alpha EV68CB Microprocessor Exposed 3 Message-ID: <mV1v3aOE7tTk@eisner.encompasserve.org>r  c In article <3ADFFF30.15FE15D2@TeraPort.de>, Martin Knoblauch <Martin.Knoblauch@TeraPort.de> writes:E  I >  And finally, it may help INTEL that they have much closer control overiF > the process technology. It may cost a lot, but then it is their coreJ > business. Look at some of the architectures that have design and processH > technology separated (Alpha, MIPS). They all take a long tinme to evenD > make nonimpressive clock improvements (what does that mean anyway,F > besides marketing :-(. Still they are not that bad performance wise.  7 PowerPC has tightly coupled design and process (twice). D The two makers/designers seem to get considerably different results.   ------------------------------    Date: 20 Apr 2001 06:54:33 -05009 From: Kilgallen@eisner.decus.org.nospam (Larry Kilgallen)-5 Subject: Re: 1GHz Alpha EV68CB Microprocessor Exposedr3 Message-ID: <O9YCPnDJeb+t@eisner.encompasserve.org>j  \ In article <3AE00392.C411F3AC@videotron.ca>, JF Mezei <jfmezei.spamnot@videotron.ca> writes: > Paul DeMone wrote:D >> HP ported it from their 0.5 um process to Intel's 0.25 um processC >> (PA-8500) it originally simulated maxxing out at 275 MHz (it ransE >> up to 180 MHz in 0.5 um). It took a heck of a lot of work to bring A >> it up to the 400 MHz targeted release frequency. It eventually F >> topped out at 440 MHz. More work and a Leff process tweak lifted it >> to 552 MHz (PA-8600). >  > N > That is my point. Instead of waiting for the ALPHA to be fully ported to theH > new process, couldn't they have generated a "early port" with a slightM > increase in mhz without any redesign, and then later release the fine-tuned 8 > chip that can take full advantage of the new process ?  N I thought that was what the EVnm parts were all about (EV45, EV56, EF68, etc.)   ------------------------------    Date: 20 Apr 2001 19:19:49 +0800, From: Paul Repacholi <prep@prep.synonet.com>5 Subject: Re: 1GHz Alpha EV68CB Microprocessor Exposede- Message-ID: <878zkvq0mi.fsf@prep.synonet.com>e  / JF Mezei <jfmezei.spamnot@videotron.ca> writes:    > Paul DeMone wrote:  E > > HP ported it from their 0.5 um process to Intel's 0.25 um processsD > > (PA-8500) it originally simulated maxxing out at 275 MHz (it ranF > > up to 180 MHz in 0.5 um). It took a heck of a lot of work to bringB > > it up to the 400 MHz targeted release frequency. It eventuallyD > > topped out at 440 MHz. More work and a Leff process tweak lifted > > it to 552 MHz (PA-8600).  @ > That is my point. Instead of waiting for the ALPHA to be fullyB > ported to the new process, couldn't they have generated a "earlyD > port" with a slight increase in mhz without any redesign, and thenC > later release the fine-tuned chip that can take full advantage of  > the new process ?w  > It depends where it bites. If, for instance the Alpha had it'sC internal clock skew go high, you could end up with a SLOWER chip on-? the faster process. Or you may not have enought fanout power...0  : Remember we are dealing with pS or less margins in places!   -- k< Paul Repacholi                               1 Crescent Rd.,7 +61 (08) 9257-1001                           Kalamunda.i@                                              West Australia 6076. Raw, Cooked or Well-done, it's all half baked.   ------------------------------    Date: 20 Apr 2001 19:16:13 +0800, From: Paul Repacholi <prep@prep.synonet.com>5 Subject: Re: 1GHz Alpha EV68CB Microprocessor Exposedp- Message-ID: <87d7a7q0si.fsf@prep.synonet.com>s  % Paul DeMone <pdemone@igs.net> writes:o   > Paul Repacholi wrote:R > [...]I  D > > Terry, do my eyes, or the photos, decieve me, or is the heatsink0 > > mount slug now the full size of the package?  F > Low Theta Jc is where its at. I want to see the heat sink that bolts > on.o  F Paul, is the cavity on that package near the full size of the chip? ItF seems to have gone from 3 package bonding pad 'steps' to about 7 or 8!  D Re thermal resitance. How long are Intel and AMD going to be able toF stay with the current low cost packages, and all the temp and heatsink problems that that engenders?    --  < Paul Repacholi                               1 Crescent Rd.,7 +61 (08) 9257-1001                           Kalamunda.r@                                              West Australia 6076. Raw, Cooked or Well-done, it's all half baked.   ------------------------------  % Date: Fri, 20 Apr 2001 10:02:26 -0700r! From: Shane.F.Smith@Healthnet.coms5 Subject: Re: 1GHz Alpha EV68CB Microprocessor ExposediD Message-ID: <OF890AC5AD.43408DC9-ON88256A34.005D0262@foundation.com>  J Not long back, AMD filed a patent that looked like they were combining theI chip package and a peltier junction. For those not familiar with the term J (ok, not many on this group probably, but there'll be some) a peltier is aK small electronic device that pumps heat. Put it on a chip the right way up,sK so it pulls heat from the chip, and put a honking great heatsink and fan onVB the other and you can suck more heat away from the chip.  A lot ofK overclockers use them to achieve higher clock speeds, but they do soak up ai lot of power on their own.  J If AMD are really doing this, it would allow them to generate more heat inG the chip, and dissipate it quick enough to avoid damaging the chip. TheeI fact that they filed the patent makes me wonder what Intel can do to keepT# up - licence the idea from AMD? :-)o   Shane           E Paul Repacholi <prep@prep.synonet.com>@k9.healthnet.com on 04/20/2001f 04:16:13 AMg  8 Please respond to Paul Repacholi <prep@prep.synonet.com>   Sent by:  prep@k9.healthnet.como     To:   Info-VAX@Mvb.Saic.Com  cc:V  6 Subject:  Re: 1GHz Alpha EV68CB Microprocessor Exposed    % Paul DeMone <pdemone@igs.net> writes:,   > Paul Repacholi wrote:  > [...]a  D > > Terry, do my eyes, or the photos, decieve me, or is the heatsink0 > > mount slug now the full size of the package?  F > Low Theta Jc is where its at. I want to see the heat sink that bolts > on.   F Paul, is the cavity on that package near the full size of the chip? ItF seems to have gone from 3 package bonding pad 'steps' to about 7 or 8!  D Re thermal resitance. How long are Intel and AMD going to be able toF stay with the current low cost packages, and all the temp and heatsink problems that that engenders?<   --< Paul Repacholi                               1 Crescent Rd.,7 +61 (08) 9257-1001                           Kalamunda.L@                                              West Australia 6076. Raw, Cooked or Well-done, it's all half baked.   ------------------------------  % Date: Fri, 20 Apr 2001 13:18:50 +0200 ! From: Didier Morandi <DMo@ims.ch> Y Subject: Re: =?iso-8859-1?Q?Z=FCrich?= Tech Seminar (was: London, England	Technical	Techn & Message-ID: <3AE01B1A.6830BA0F@ims.ch>   yes yes yes yes and... YES.y   D.
 079-705.46.70p   Christof Brass wrote:s > B > I'm living in Zrich and would be glad to organise something for= > our VMS friends visiting our small city and coming from fari > away.e > Is there any interest?1 > Would others from the Zrich area like to join?v   ------------------------------  % Date: Fri, 20 Apr 2001 14:22:16 +0100 - From: Tim Llewellyn <tim.llewellyn@bbc.co.uk>-Y Subject: Re: =?iso-8859-1?Q?Z=FCrich?= Tech Seminar (was: London, England	TechnicalTechni ( Message-ID: <3AE03808.12FD3F4@bbc.co.uk>  * fabio_compaq@ep-bc.petrobras.com.br wrote:  K > Hmmmmm .... if you pay my airplane ticket and a good 5 stars hotel. thats- > ok ! >  > Fabior  G Fabio, en Suisse is not cheap, you should bargain for expenses too :-).    regardsR  --O  6 Tim Llewellyn, OpenVMS Infrastructure, Remarcs Project0 MedAS at the BBC, Whiteladies Road, Bristol, UK.A Email tim.llewellyn@bbc.co.uk. Home tim.llewellyn@cableinet.co.uke  A I speak for myself only and my views in no way represent those ofa MedAS or the BBC.    ------------------------------  % Date: Fri, 20 Apr 2001 09:44:43 -0300 ) From: fabio_compaq@ep-bc.petrobras.com.brsY Subject: Re:=?iso-8859-1?q?Z=FCrich_Tech_Seminar_=28was=3A_London=2C_England?= TechnicalT L Message-ID: <OF59071791.145109EB-ON03256A34.0045F69A@ep-bc.petrobras.com.br>  H Hmmmmm .... if you pay my airplane ticket and a good 5 stars hotel. tha= ts ok !   Fabiod        2 Didier Morandi <DMo@ims.ch> em 20/04/2001 08:18:50  - Favor responder a Didier Morandi <DMo@ims.ch>t             Info-VAX@Mvb.Saic.Comc      H Assunto: Re: Z=FCrich Tech Seminar (was: London, England Technical Tech= nicaln          Technical     yes yes yes yes and... YES..   D.
 079-705.46.70t   Christof Brass wrote:e > D > I'm living in Z=FCrich and would be glad to organise something for= > our VMS friends visiting our small city and coming from fara > away.o > Is there any interest?3 > Would others from the Z=FCrich area like to join?          =r   ------------------------------    Date: 20 Apr 2001 12:09:01 +0200G From: Jan Vorbrueggen <jan@mailhost.neuroinformatik.ruhr-uni-bochum.de>a1 Subject: Re: C++ RTL pb at AST level execution...eH Message-ID: <y4zodbevcy.fsf@mailhost.neuroinformatik.ruhr-uni-bochum.de>  H I seem to remember a bug in synchronizing access to the LNM database was recently corrected...2   	Jan   ------------------------------  % Date: Fri, 20 Apr 2001 10:30:10 -0400e" From: Dan Sugalski <dan@sidhe.org>5 Subject: Re: Re: C++ RTL pb at AST level execution...m: Message-ID: <5.0.2.1.0.20010420102553.0232b958@24.8.96.48>  9 At 02:57 AM 4/20/2001 +0000, Hurez-Martin, Olivier wrote:fJ >That thing works just fine for anywhere from a few thousands to 100's of 
 >thousandsL >iterations. Then it gets stuck on that funny LNM$AQ_MUTEX - The funny part  >is thatD >it hangs on that event flag, ** whether the trace is on or off ** !  4 The things I can think that might be biting you are:  K *) The lock manager bug someone else posted was fixed really recently (I'd  , grab and install all the latest ECOs anyway)6 *) You're blocking on the system service mutex somehow/ *) You're not possibly blocking inside the AST?E  K Probably the first problem (and it certainly has the easiest fix... :) but aJ it'd be worth poking around in SDA or with the Visual Threads tool (which 3 is rather neat) to see if something odd's going on.t   					Dan  I --------------------------------------"it's like this"-------------------V2 Dan Sugalski                          even samurai? dan@sidhe.org                         have teddy bears and evene;                                       teddy bears get drunka   ------------------------------  % Date: Fri, 20 Apr 2001 22:49:14 +1000a0 From: "Dave Gaukroger" <bangalla@ozemail.com.au>( Subject: Re: Compaq getting the message?2 Message-ID: <HgWD6.5192$EQ3.181509@ozemail.com.au>  A > > > Anyone else seen signs of change locally either positive orc > > > negative?   J Well in Australia the new MD has come from the enterprise sector replacingF Ian "Mr Presario" Penman. We can only hope this is felt throughout the" organisation. Only time will tell.     Dave   ------------------------------  % Date: Fri, 20 Apr 2001 11:49:12 +0100o% From: Alan Greig <a.greig@virgin.net>t? Subject: Compaq watch: radio ads and Inform - mostly good news.n8 Message-ID: <5m00etkjnf9gabe2r33d2phdhe9gjop4cc@4ax.com>  A According to a new Compaq Inspiration Technology radio commercialsF running in the UK the greatest inventions that have been made possibleE by the PC are the Internet, email and MP3. So any email or use of the F Internet you think you remember prior to the mid 80s was probably just5 a result of too much acid in the 60s and 70s I guess.r  C More positively VMS has again increased in visibility in the latests? Issue of Inform. Front page of European Edition lists among themA contents "OpenVMS: Continuing the renaissance" and the US EditiondF carries an expanded version of the same feature headlined on the front* page as: "OpenVMS: Back with a vengeance"   B Both the US and European editions carry a feature on the Eurex andD CBOT exchanges with VMS featuring heavily and there are  articles onB SAN support for VAX  in both editions The US edition also mentionsC OpenVMS in use by Vodaphone for telecoms (strange this isn't in the B European edition as Vodaphone is a UK company although the articleC does refer to Vodaphone in South Africa). Several other mentions of F VMS can be found throughout the issue and not just in the VMS specific section.  ? One place where VMS prominently *does not* feature is Winkler's:@ article on "Where Compaq is Headed" (both editions - abbreviatedF version in European edition). He talks about iPAQs, Proliant, Windows,D Alpha, Tru-64 but not OpenVMS (or Linux for that matter). This againE re-inforces my opinion that Winkler is no friend of VMS and he really F does not see a future for VMS with Compaq. To re-emphasize the articleD is headed "Where Compaq is headed" in the US edition and there is noF VMS. It would have been so easy for him to add the words "and OpenVMS"  after Tru-64 Unix but he didn't.  A Finally several Compaq ads appear in both publications (includingpA OpenVMS Times ad in European edition but not the US edition (wellaB online copy anyway) but the VMS search engine ad running in the UK+ does not appear anywhere. Maybe next issue!l  A Overall VMS is at its highest visibility level for a long time inaF Inform and this has to be a good thing. But just how do we get WinklerA on side? I've cc'd this to both Rich Marcello and Mike Winkler ash? perhaps Mike just really doesn't realize just how sensitive the.D customer base is given past (mainly DEC) treatment of VMS customers.   http://www.compaq.com/inform orsE http://www.compaq.com/inform/in33final.pdf for complete magazine. Try + a search for VMS and you might be surprised  -- Alan   ------------------------------    Date: 20 Apr 2001 20:59:50 +0800, From: Paul Repacholi <prep@prep.synonet.com>C Subject: Re: Compaq watch: radio ads and Inform - mostly good news.v- Message-ID: <874rvjpvzt.fsf@prep.synonet.com>h  ' Alan Greig <a.greig@virgin.net> writes:n  A > One place where VMS prominently *does not* feature is Winkler's B > article on "Where Compaq is Headed" (both editions - abbreviated? > version in European edition). He talks about iPAQs, Proliant,-D > Windows, Alpha, Tru-64 but not OpenVMS (or Linux for that matter).  B I wonder if he is one of the group that help replace T64 with IIS?C "We love our OSs so much we are ripping them out and replacing them/ with Billyshit."  F Way to go Compaq!! Show the world what you think of your own products.@ (And given that Amazon dumped T64 for Linux, how long before theD Internet Movie Database, now owned by Amazon follows the same path?)  D > This again re-inforces my opinion that Winkler is no friend of VMS= > and he really does not see a future for VMS with Compaq. To+D > re-emphasize the article is headed "Where Compaq is headed" in theD > US edition and there is no VMS. It would have been so easy for himA > to add the words "and OpenVMS" after Tru-64 Unix but he didn't.a  A I do not think Winkler is a friend of Compaq! He does not seem to:@ have any idea of how the realities of the IT world are shifting.  B I also wonder if the 'Cisco effect' will hit the PC server vendors@ as well. And the Unix boxes. How many machines are out there for? a song, or even just a ditty if you promise to remove it today,l: that will hold off the purchase or new gear for some time.  C > Finally several Compaq ads appear in both publications (including.C > OpenVMS Times ad in European edition but not the US edition (welliD > online copy anyway) but the VMS search engine ad running in the UK- > does not appear anywhere. Maybe next issue!   C > Overall VMS is at its highest visibility level for a long time inaH > Inform and this has to be a good thing. But just how do we get WinklerC > on side? I've cc'd this to both Rich Marcello and Mike Winkler aseA > perhaps Mike just really doesn't realize just how sensitive theeF > customer base is given past (mainly DEC) treatment of VMS customers. > ! > http://www.compaq.com/inform oraC > http://www.compaq.com/inform/in33final.pdf for complete magazine.-E Both now proudly brought to you by Microsoft IIS. Well, till the nextd security hooo haaa anyway.   --  < Paul Repacholi                               1 Crescent Rd.,7 +61 (08) 9257-1001                           Kalamunda.c@                                              West Australia 6076. Raw, Cooked or Well-done, it's all half baked.   ------------------------------  % Date: Fri, 20 Apr 2001 12:09:30 +0200h$ From: "Jakob Erber" <erberj@post.ch>$ Subject: DCE 1.5 for OpenVMS AXP 7.2 Message-ID: <3ae00adc$1@hcwe67>    Hello,    F The following problem exists since the last patch delivered by compaq,
 concerning: limiting the max. active bg devices on the VMS DCE Server.   The problem shows as follows:iK Quite freqently, especially if an RPC Server Applikation is under load, RPCi requests tos> the application are rejected with the following error message:  #  communications failure (dce / rpc)-  = If the load is heavy, this error happens almost all the time.i   System:o   GDC042::ERBER>ucx show version  A   DIGITAL TCP/IP Services for OpenVMS Alpha Version V5.0A - ECO 1P6   on a AlphaServer 2100 4/200 running OpenVMS V7.2-1H1   But happened also on   GDCW4G::ERBER>ucx show version  @   Digital TCP/IP Services for OpenVMS Alpha Version V4.2 - ECO 4E   on a AlphaServer 4100 5/466 4MB running OpenVMS V7.1-2 with DCE 1.4m     best regards   Jakob Erber    ------------------------------    Date: 20 Apr 2001 08:04:05 -0500- From: koehler@encompasserve.org (Bob Koehler)e+ Subject: Re: Driving an HP Laserjet 4100DTN43 Message-ID: <HgkSOiONPozY@eisner.encompasserve.org>    In article <paul.r.anderson-1904011054460001@dhcp-16-21-34-107.eng.lkg.dec.com>, paul.r.anderson@compaq.com (Paul Anderson) writes:'L > If there are fonts that the LN03 has that you want the HP printer to have,L > you'll have to buy them and download them to the printer.  Digital used toL > sell a package called SoftFont, which supplied fonts available on the LN03> > and DEClaser font cartridges, but it's no longer being sold.  G Will DCPS+ download them for me if I print a file contaiing LN03 fonts,. or do I have to intervene?  F ----------------------------------------------------------------------? Bob Koehler                     | Computer Sciences Corporation = NASA GSFC Flight Software       | Federal Sector, Civil GrouppE                                 | please remove ".aspm" when replyinge   ------------------------------    Date: 20 Apr 2001 08:05:18 -0500- From: koehler@encompasserve.org (Bob Koehler)o+ Subject: Re: Driving an HP Laserjet 4100DTNv3 Message-ID: <xCzj3zpP1mLk@eisner.encompasserve.org>L  W In article <19APR200110570584@gerg.tamu.edu>, carl@gerg.tamu.edu (Carl Perkins) writes:i > F > What's so special abut the LN03 fonts? "Courier"? "Elite"? What font > is so irreplacable?   E I'm sure I could find a suitable substitute font, but I've no time toaC try to figure out how to get it requested when I print a file.  Seeh my last post about DCPS+.n  F ----------------------------------------------------------------------? Bob Koehler                     | Computer Sciences Corporationo= NASA GSFC Flight Software       | Federal Sector, Civil GroupwE                                 | please remove ".aspm" when replyingi   ------------------------------  + Date: Fri, 20 Apr 2001 09:42:06 +0200 (MET) ' From: ZINSER@sysdev.deutsche-boerse.com 1 Subject: Error compressing large files on OpenVMS,; Message-ID: <01K2M9BRFT8Y99DINW@sysdev.deutsche-boerse.com>-   Hello!  F 	We've uncovered a problem compressing large files (> 2GB) on OpenVMS          with ZIP.c  H 	zip with option "-V" to preserve VMS file attributes will add an entry I         for such a file to the archive but returns instantaneous without pN         adding actual data to the archive. Upon uncompressing this archive an O         empty file with the correct file size (and attributes) will be created. H         Most probably this is a problem of long vs. unsigned long usage L         somewhere in the VMS specific part of the code, but we have not yet L         been able to pin down the problem. Compressing the file without VMS O         file attributes works, but corrupts the file contents (as expected ,-). G         In case somebody already found a solution for this I'd be most s#         gratefull to hear about it.    Version information:  & 	zip 2.3, DEC C 6.2, OpenVMS Alpha 7.20 	zip 2.4a (beta), DEC C 6.4, OpenVMS Alpha 7.2-1   				Greetings, Martins  H P.S. I'm well aware that compressing such a large file might not be the  smartest thing to do. H P.P.S. I'm also aware about workarounds like wrapping the file in backupK a backup saveset, saving/restoring file attributes externally. The question0% is really about a code fix in Zip :-)dP Dr. Martin P.J. Zinser                                 zinser@sysdev.exchange.de2 Deutsche Boerse Systems AG                        O Neue Boersenstr. 1                                     Tel: +49 69 2101 5634   lL 60487 Frankfurt                                        FAX: +49 69 2101 3411P Germany                                                Private:  zinser@decus.de   ------------------------------    Date: 20 Apr 2001 21:50:51 +0800, From: Paul Repacholi <prep@prep.synonet.com>+ Subject: Re: FreeVMS for AMD a pipe dream ?u- Message-ID: <87zodbof2c.fsf@prep.synonet.com>r  3 "David J. Dachtera" <djesys.nospam@fsi.net> writes:h   > Jan Vorbrueggen wrote:  E > > No way porting VMS to xHammer is going to be significantly easierd% > > than porting it to any other ISA.c  I > There have been countless threads on this topic. The problem is not thelJ > CPU, witness: Alpha, 64-bit RISC. VAX, 32-bit CISC. Hardly compatible at
 > the outset.r  K And note that both Vax and Alpha have 4 processor mode, execute only pages,.( and a single process-exec address space.  ) Some parts of the processor count lots...o  F > The "problem" is the system-board "architecture", if you can call itF > that. Only 16 interrupts, non-vectored. There are countless denizens@ > of this group more qualified than I to explain what VMS on VAX< > needed and Alpha "mobos" were designed to provide as well.  s< > The CPU is not the problem - well, not the ENTIRE problem.  C > No, what is needed is a mobo for (Intel, AMD, etc.) that provideso> > the same requirements. THEN the CPU issues can be addressed.  A Oh yes... Go get the original Alpha papers, the ones on Alpha and 9 Beta.  Read and grok the comments on the intel chipset...   B So see the current issues with one of the PC chipsets and IDE data corruption.,    C But leaving all that aside, it would take I'd guess 2-4 years to do D the port, given no major dramas. (The difference being how fussy youA are about day 0 code quality) So that is mid '03 ro so. Intel hasaD stated no more IA-32 after '05. Will the AMD Hammer line change this or survive on its own?  @ Better to fix the real problems, and to agressivly ramp up Alpha' numbers, and bring down costs that way!>   --  < Paul Repacholi                               1 Crescent Rd.,7 +61 (08) 9257-1001                           Kalamunda.t@                                              West Australia 6076. Raw, Cooked or Well-done, it's all half baked.   ------------------------------  % Date: Fri, 20 Apr 2001 07:34:31 -0600-4 From: "Michael D. Ober" <mdo.@.wakeassoc.com.nospam>2 Subject: Re: Listing all the mailboxes on a system0 Message-ID: <IVWD6.157$eY.60175@news.uswest.net>  8 Just tried this and it doesn't show the email mailboxes. --
 Mike Ober.  9 "Paul Repacholi" <prep@prep.synonet.com> wrote in message ' news:87ofts7ofc.fsf@prep.synonet.com...e8 > "Michael D. Ober" <mdo.@.wakeassoc.com.nospam> writes: >aC > > Is there anyway to list all the VMS Mail mailboxes on a system?  > 
 > sho dev mba  >i > --> > Paul Repacholi                               1 Crescent Rd.,9 > +61 (08) 9257-1001                           Kalamunda.oB >                                              West Australia 60760 > Raw, Cooked or Well-done, it's all half baked.   ------------------------------  % Date: Fri, 20 Apr 2001 07:36:56 -0600:4 From: "Michael D. Ober" <mdo.@.wakeassoc.com.nospam>2 Subject: Re: Listing all the mailboxes on a system0 Message-ID: <%XWD6.158$eY.60826@news.uswest.net>  L Thanks to all.  I have been able to get the list from the system vmsmail dat files. -- Thanks,i
 Mike Ober.  < "David J. Dachtera" <djesys.nospam@fsi.net> wrote in message! news:3ADF6EAB.6A86D9B4@fsi.net...2! > William_Bochnik@acml.com wrote:i > >MB > > He asked VMS MAIL - they're listed in sys$system:vmsmail.dat -= > > you're on your own for dcl code to read that, though.....T >= > DUMP/RECORD should do nicely.  >  > -- > David J. Dachtera  > dba DJE Systems  > http://www.djesys.com/ > < > Unofficial Affordable OpenVMS Home Page and Message Board:! > http://www.djesys.com/vms/soho/o >sH > This *IS* an OpenVMS-related newsgroup. So, a certain bias in postings > is to be expected. >hB > Feel free to exercise your rights of free speech and expression. >aH > However, attacks against individual posters, or groups of posters, are > strongly discouraged..   ------------------------------   Date: 20 Apr 2001 09:02 CST-' From: carl@gerg.tamu.edu (Carl Perkins)t2 Subject: Re: Listing all the mailboxes on a system- Message-ID: <20APR200109020366@gerg.tamu.edu>   " William_Bochnik@acml.com writes...? }He asked VMS MAIL - they're listed in sys$system:vmsmail.dat -0: }you're on your own for dcl code to read that, though.....  D That's VMSMAIL_PROFILE.DATA, which may be placed just about anywhereB if you define the VMSMAIL_PROFILE logical name to point to it, but  defaults to being in SYS$SYSTEM.  @ Here's the "DCL code" to  list every account in VMSMAIL_PROFILE:   $ MAIL MAIL> SHOW FORWARD/USER=*/ALLa  ) You need the SYSNAM privilege to do this.h  C Note that this will not neccesarily show every account that can get!? mail - it will only show those who have actually gotten mail ate2 some point (which creates the record in the file).  A Also note that there can be (and probably are, if you havn't beenYD cleaning it up) records for accounts that have been disabled or evenB removed completely. You can eliminate any unneeded records via theB "REMOVE username" command in MAIL (requires the SYSPRV privilege).B If you have a procedure or checklist for what to do when you close@ down an account, I suggest adding the "MAIL> REMOVE username" toA the list just to avoid potential difficulties in the future (likeu? what happens when you create a new account with a username that ; already existed in the past which still has a record in the A VMSMAIL_PROFILE file - I believe the new account will pick up any-E settings the old one had, such as the mail file directory, forwardingo# address, personal name, and so on).c   --- Carl   ------------------------------    Date: 20 Apr 2001 22:01:38 +0800, From: Paul Repacholi <prep@prep.synonet.com>2 Subject: Re: Listing all the mailboxes on a system- Message-ID: <87r8ynoekd.fsf@prep.synonet.com>t  6 "Michael D. Ober" <mdo.@.wakeassoc.com.nospam> writes:  : > Just tried this and it doesn't show the email mailboxes.  ; > "Paul Repacholi" <prep@prep.synonet.com> wrote in messagee) > news:87ofts7ofc.fsf@prep.synonet.com...l  E > > > Is there anyway to list all the VMS Mail mailboxes on a system?r   > > sho dev mbas  C True, my stupidity... Still don't think of 'mailboxes' as being then6 users :( Well, VMS did missuse the term way back when.  " Use mailuaf from Hunters ftp area.  B BTW, does anyone know what keeps the vms_profile.data file locked?   -- P< Paul Repacholi                               1 Crescent Rd.,7 +61 (08) 9257-1001                           Kalamunda. @                                              West Australia 6076. Raw, Cooked or Well-done, it's all half baked.   ------------------------------  % Date: Fri, 20 Apr 2001 16:17:52 +0100p- From: Tim Llewellyn <tim.llewellyn@bbc.co.uk>d2 Subject: Re: Listing all the mailboxes on a system) Message-ID: <3AE05320.69A21721@bbc.co.uk>M   Paul Repacholi wrote:   E >  BTW, does anyone know what keeps the vms_profile.data file locked?B  D  Paul, I assume you tried $ PIPE show dev/files sys$sysdevice | sear  sys$input vmsmail_profile.data ?  D Note vmsmail_profile.data not vms_profile.data, on my systems anyway  : vmsnet xpost removed as my server does nopt carry vmsnet.*   regards  --6 Tim Llewellyn, OpenVMS Infrastructure, Remarcs Project0 MedAS at the BBC, Whiteladies Road, Bristol, UK.A Email tim.llewellyn@bbc.co.uk. Home tim.llewellyn@cableinet.co.ukn  A I speak for myself only and my views in no way represent those ofl MedAS or the BBC.i   ------------------------------  # Date: Fri, 20 Apr 2001 15:58:31 GMTt- From: goathunter@goatley.com (Hunter Goatley)u2 Subject: Re: Listing all the mailboxes on a system1 Message-ID: <3ae05c2e.408529193@swen.process.com>r  L On 20 Apr 2001 22:01:38 +0800, Paul Repacholi <prep@prep.synonet.com> wrote:  # >Use mailuaf from Hunters ftp area.m > C >BTW, does anyone know what keeps the vms_profile.data file locked?  >eA Get the FILES_INFO package from my ftp area and you can find out.e 8-)'  ? (FILES_INFO displays the processes that have a given file open,d6 along with the numbers of reads and writes performed.)  : ftp://ftp.process.com/vms-freeware/fileserv/files_info.zip   Hunter ------9 Hunter Goatley, Process Software, http://www.process.com/l9 goathunter@goatley.com     http://www.goatley.com/hunter/a   ------------------------------    Date: 20 Apr 2001 23:58:40 +0800, From: Paul Repacholi <prep@prep.synonet.com>2 Subject: Re: Listing all the mailboxes on a system- Message-ID: <874rvjo95b.fsf@prep.synonet.com>r  / Tim Llewellyn <tim.llewellyn@bbc.co.uk> writes:u   > Paul Repacholi wrote:a  ? > >  BTW, does anyone know what keeps the vms_profile.data filem > >  locked?  F >  Paul, I assume you tried $ PIPE show dev/files sys$sysdevice | sear" > sys$input vmsmail_profile.data ?  F > Note vmsmail_profile.data not vms_profile.data, on my systems anyway   Yes, my error.  D The culprit is Decevent. Well, at least has only opened it once, not) *9* times, like FMG_ETC__DEF_RUL_LIB.KNL!i   -- n< Paul Repacholi                               1 Crescent Rd.,7 +61 (08) 9257-1001                           Kalamunda.d@                                              West Australia 6076. Raw, Cooked or Well-done, it's all half baked.   ------------------------------    Date: 20 Apr 2001 11:56:05 +0200G From: Jan Vorbrueggen <jan@mailhost.neuroinformatik.ruhr-uni-bochum.de>s- Subject: Re: MAIL$SEND_ADD_ATTRIBUTE ("From")eH Message-ID: <y43db3gaiy.fsf@mailhost.neuroinformatik.ruhr-uni-bochum.de>  . Steve Lionel <Steve.Lionel@compaq.com> writes:   [snip]G > I suspect many of our Windows users would find it amusing that all off1 > the support processing is handled on OpenVMS!  m   Indeed.h  F I wonder what it would take to do a similar setup using Exchange & Co.8 Probably never work reliably after man-years of effort.    	Jan   ------------------------------  % Date: Fri, 20 Apr 2001 10:40:21 -0400e, From: Steve Lionel <Steve.Lionel@compaq.com>- Subject: Re: MAIL$SEND_ADD_ATTRIBUTE ("From")o8 Message-ID: <9ai0etghkmgag895vkkc8jjfs06vm7al25@4ax.com>  . On 20 Apr 2001 11:56:05 +0200, Jan Vorbrueggen8 <jan@mailhost.neuroinformatik.ruhr-uni-bochum.de> wrote:  / >Steve Lionel <Steve.Lionel@compaq.com> writes:U >  >[snip]wH >> I suspect many of our Windows users would find it amusing that all of2 >> the support processing is handled on OpenVMS!   >s >Indeed. > G >I wonder what it would take to do a similar setup using Exchange & Co.s9 >Probably never work reliably after man-years of effort. t  D You're probably right.  My VMS solution works well, and I understandC it.  Also, the NOTES part of it uses a tool we're already using and B can be accessed from VMS, UNIX and NT systems, whereas an Exchange solution would be PC-only.  D The one part that still gives me headaches is that SOME MIME-encodedC messages don't get decoded properly, but I handle these manually. IeE find that munpack works better than the VMS MIME utility (and is MUCHp( easier to use from a command procedure!)   Steve = Send Visual Fortran support requests to vf-support@compaq.comm  - Steve Lionel (mailto:Steve.Lionel@compaq.com)p Fortran Engineering & Compaq Computer Corporation, Nashua NH  6 Compaq Fortran web site: http://www.compaq.com/fortran2 Message Board: http://www.compaq.com/fortran/forum   ------------------------------  % Date: Fri, 20 Apr 2001 12:18:40 +0200 1 From: "Tomasz Dryjanski" <tdryjanski@hotmail.com>W3 Subject: Main production system crashed - continued-. Message-ID: <9bp2e0$21bo$1@news2.ipartners.pl>   Hi all.   D First I would like to cite myself. This is from my post from 29.03.:5 "Our main production system crashed this night (GMT).w These are details:D AlphaServer 8200 5/440, VMS 7.2-1H1, all mandatory patches installed* Uptime: 9 16:49:38 (last Time Stamp Entry)H - and there are no traces of the event in the system, as if somebody hadI pulled out the power cord. When I connected to the console, I noticed thee console prompt.l  I Such problems started since we upgraded VMS from 7.1-1H1 to 7.2-1. But wes> haven't had so far a situation, when there is no trace at all.J To solve those problems we upgraded to H1 and it worked OK for more than 9 days - as I mentioned above."a  # Some new facts have arrived so far. H The reset code from the crash I described was 000000, ie. "Unknown Reset Reason".A After another 14 days the system crashed again - this time it wasv( INVEXCEPTN, Exception while above ASTDEL  : in SYS$TTDRIVER (Link Date/Time: 18-MAY-2000 00:12:31.86).L And two days ago RDB Monitor started to crash regularly every night. We haveE narrowed down the problem to $ reply /all command, if there was users  present in the system.  G We have contacted Digital field service, sent them all information they1I needed, and clearly so far they don't have an idea what to do. So you aresF the last resort - unless you can help us we are going to downgrade the system back to 7.1-1H1.'    Thanks in advance for any ideas!   T. D.p   ------------------------------  % Date: Fri, 20 Apr 2001 08:55:55 -0500f+ From: "Main, Kerry" <Kerry.Main@compaq.com>n7 Subject: RE: Main production system crashed - continued+R Message-ID: <DC4745D1A85CA04180C83CDC706A9D180D9546@cthexc02.americas.cpqcorp.net>   Tomasz,-  G My recommendation for all issues like this is to follow the recommendedoG Compaq escalation processes ie. log the call, if no resolution within agL satisfactory amount of time, discuss with the local office or Support Center about escalating the call.   Regards,  
 Kerry Main Senior Consultant- Compaq Canada Inc. Professional Servicesm Voice: 613-592-4660v Fax  :  819-772-7036 Email: Kerry.Main@Compaq.com     -----Original Message-----6 From: Tomasz Dryjanski [mailto:tdryjanski@hotmail.com] Sent: April 20, 2001 6:19 AM To: Info-VAX@Mvb.Saic.Comr3 Subject: Main production system crashed - continued      Hi all.e  D First I would like to cite myself. This is from my post from 29.03.:5 "Our main production system crashed this night (GMT).o These are details:D AlphaServer 8200 5/440, VMS 7.2-1H1, all mandatory patches installed* Uptime: 9 16:49:38 (last Time Stamp Entry)H - and there are no traces of the event in the system, as if somebody hadI pulled out the power cord. When I connected to the console, I noticed thei console prompt.   I Such problems started since we upgraded VMS from 7.1-1H1 to 7.2-1. But we-> haven't had so far a situation, when there is no trace at all.J To solve those problems we upgraded to H1 and it worked OK for more than 9 days - as I mentioned above."-  # Some new facts have arrived so far.-H The reset code from the crash I described was 000000, ie. "Unknown Reset Reason".A After another 14 days the system crashed again - this time it wasv( INVEXCEPTN, Exception while above ASTDEL  : in SYS$TTDRIVER (Link Date/Time: 18-MAY-2000 00:12:31.86).L And two days ago RDB Monitor started to crash regularly every night. We haveE narrowed down the problem to $ reply /all command, if there was usersi present in the system.  G We have contacted Digital field service, sent them all information they I needed, and clearly so far they don't have an idea what to do. So you are F the last resort - unless you can help us we are going to downgrade the system back to 7.1-1H1.i    Thanks in advance for any ideas!   T. D.a   ------------------------------    Date: 20 Apr 2001 21:57:42 +0800, From: Paul Repacholi <prep@prep.synonet.com>7 Subject: Re: Main production system crashed - continued.- Message-ID: <87vgnzoeqx.fsf@prep.synonet.com>.  3 "Tomasz Dryjanski" <tdryjanski@hotmail.com> writes:.   ...l  % > Some new facts have arrived so far.e  D > The reset code from the crash I described was 000000, ie. "Unknown > Reset Reason".  C > After another 14 days the system crashed again - this time it wasr@ > INVEXCEPTN, Exception while above ASTDEL in SYS$TTDRIVER (Link& > Date/Time: 18-MAY-2000 00:12:31.86).  ? > And two days ago RDB Monitor started to crash regularly everyyF > night. We have narrowed down the problem to $ reply /all command, if( > there was users present in the system.  C It all points to a hardware failure. Not a big bang one, but an odd0F undetected memory or cache error or the like. Or an iffy power supply.  D Backing out the versions is ot going to do anything other than muddy- the waters, and delay finding the real cause..  E How do your users connect to the system? Ethernet? If so, put that at8 the top of the suspect list.   -- D< Paul Repacholi                               1 Crescent Rd.,7 +61 (08) 9257-1001                           Kalamunda.g@                                              West Australia 6076. Raw, Cooked or Well-done, it's all half baked.   ------------------------------  % Date: Fri, 20 Apr 2001 10:35:12 -0600A From: Kevin Handy <kth@srv.net> 7 Subject: Re: Main production system crashed - continuedv' Message-ID: <3AE06540.C3743472@srv.net>    Tomasz Dryjanski wrote:d > 	 > Hi all.  > F > First I would like to cite myself. This is from my post from 29.03.:7 > "Our main production system crashed this night (GMT).  > These are details:F > AlphaServer 8200 5/440, VMS 7.2-1H1, all mandatory patches installed, > Uptime: 9 16:49:38 (last Time Stamp Entry)J > - and there are no traces of the event in the system, as if somebody hadK > pulled out the power cord. When I connected to the console, I noticed the, > console prompt.o > K > Such problems started since we upgraded VMS from 7.1-1H1 to 7.2-1. But we.@ > haven't had so far a situation, when there is no trace at all.L > To solve those problems we upgraded to H1 and it worked OK for more than 9 > days - as I mentioned above."n > % > Some new facts have arrived so far.lJ > The reset code from the crash I described was 000000, ie. "Unknown Reset
 > Reason".  C > After another 14 days the system crashed again - this time it wast* > INVEXCEPTN, Exception while above ASTDEL  E I was getting this whenever I tried to access a CD-rom on a brand new C DS-10 with 7.2-1 when using DEC CD-rom's (windows CD-roms were OK).p< I got the following advise that fixed it in an earlier post.  D 	Have you pulled the patches for V7.2-1, especially the SYS$DQDRIVER 	ones, from < 	http://ftp.support.compaq.com/patches/.new/openvms.shtml ??4 	Search on VMS721 at that page.  You especially want VMS721_DRIVER-V0200,. 	VMS721_UPDATE-V0100 & VMS721_DQCONFIG-V0200 .  D You may want to brouse the other 7.2-1 patches there also and see if they reference your problem.  < > in SYS$TTDRIVER (Link Date/Time: 18-MAY-2000 00:12:31.86).N > And two days ago RDB Monitor started to crash regularly every night. We haveG > narrowed down the problem to $ reply /all command, if there was userse > present in the system. > I > We have contacted Digital field service, sent them all information they:K > needed, and clearly so far they don't have an idea what to do. So you are H > the last resort - unless you can help us we are going to downgrade the > system back to 7.1-1H1.)   -- 0E If they're not putting secret messages to me in their music, then why > do they keep putting my picture on the other side of the CD's?   ------------------------------  # Date: Fri, 20 Apr 2001 13:45:07 GMT - From: Terry C Shannon <shannon@world.std.com>r. Subject: Management Musical Chairs in the BCSGD Message-ID: <Pine.SGI.4.21.0104200940350.14439-100000@world.std.com>  I There have been some changes on CPQ's BCSG org chart. The changes involveyJ the realignment and focusing of the Alpha-centric High Performance SystemsH business. At first glance these changes appear to be positive for Alpha, OpenVMS, and Tru64 UNIX users.  F I expect that Mike Magee will have some details on www.theinquirer.net later today.   ------------------------------  % Date: Fri, 20 Apr 2001 08:12:52 +0200h< From: "Martin Vorlaender" <martin.vorlaender@pdv-systeme.de>E Subject: Re: MOD_SSL.EXE_ALPHA is missing in CSWS V1.0-1 distributiono4 Message-ID: <9bok04$a954h$1@ID-56200.news.dfncis.de>  	 Hi Scott,   
 you wrote:B >I talked to the SSL guys and MOD_SSL.EXE_ALPHA wasn't part of the? >V1.0 or V1.0-1 kits.  It is built into the core Apache module.e> >Once you go to T1.1 (V1.1) it'll show up as a loadable image.  A I've been to T1.1 (and T1.0 and V1.0 and V1.0-1) on that machine,-> but recently got pushed to go productive (I'll have to find me another system to test it on).  E That probably caused the problems: when removing T1.1 and reinstating0/ V1.0-1, somehow the T1.1 mod_ssl.conf crept in.l  @ I apologize; all is up and running now. I really should rememberB the Usenet principle more often - sleep over it before you post...   cu,    Martin -- PJ One OS to rule them all       | Martin Vorlaender  |  VMS & WNT programmer7 One OS to find them           | work: mv@pdv-systeme.de J One OS to bring them all      |   http://www.pdv-systeme.de/users/martinv/? And in the Darkness bind them.| home: martin@radiogaga.harz.de d   ------------------------------  % Date: Fri, 20 Apr 2001 17:00:55 +0100h0 From: andrew harrison <andrew.nospam@uk.sun.com>8 Subject: Re: OpenVMS article - please explain last line!* Message-ID: <3AE05D37.3AD7C39F@uk.sun.com>   "Main, Kerry" wrote: > G > >> My numbers were not false; they were the actual stream results.<<<n > E > Regardless of where you got them, they do not reflect current Alphan5 > capabilities, so it is false to claim that they do.n >    Sorry Kerry you are wrong.  7 They do represent the ES40's current capabilites, your h5 numbers are peak bandwidth which are about as usefullI5 as a chocolate teapot and which are numbers that onlyl8 get published by marketing staff who should know better.  6 His numbers are based on the STREAMS results published by Compaq for the ES40.    They are at   9 http://www.cs.virginia.edu/stream/standard/Bandwidth.htmli   The results for the ES40 are  H Machine ID                      ncpus    COPY    SCALE      ADD    TRIADI Compaq_AlphaServer_ES40-6/667      4   2472.8   2363.3   2314.8   2369.1 2I Compaq_AlphaServer_ES40-6/667      2   1778.8   1712.2   1798.8   1840.1 RH Compaq_AlphaServer_ES40-6/667      1   1331.2   1249.3   1275.4   1338.5  7 You will notice that despite your claim of 5+ GB/s thats4 the ES40 tops out at half your claimed performance.   7 You will also note from the result that the scalabilitye8 isn't linear indicating that it is the memory subsystem/ backplane which is the issue.y    M > >>> Just as I'm sure people understand the difference between the bandwidthy4 > of a system, and the bandwidth of a processor. <<< > J > Can you help me understand how having a fast CPU waiting for memory dataL > somehow will impress a user who is only interested in overall performance?' > Do they care where the bottleneck is?  >   = Quite and as your own STREAMS results show the Alpha CPU's in 6 the ES40 are fast CPU's having to wait for the memory 8 subsystem, if they wern't then you would have got better scalability then you did..  N > >>> It is correct that _current_ P4 systems (which also do 3.2 GB/s) do have? > a lower peak bandwidth than the highest end Alpha systems.<<<a > I > Again, the current low end Alpha DS20 systems use a 5.2Gb/sec cross barlF > switch technology. No one thinks of the DS20 as a "highest end Alpha
 > system". >   6 Again this is just a marketing BS number which is not ! supported by your STREAMS result.i    K > >>> However, the ServerWorks Grand Champion architecture will do 6.4 GB/s M > with up to 4 P4 processors and has PCI-X. It blows the DS20 and ES40 out of  > the water to be sure. :-)<<f > L > Sure, whenever its available, we will be glad to compare apples to apples.C > Right now, comparing future designs to current HW is a bit silly.  >   7 As is making claims for existing systems which are not l3 supported by the data you youselves have published.-   regardsr Andrew Harrison: Enterprise IT Architectt   ------------------------------   Date: 20 Apr 2001 17:50:42 GMT2 From: mathog@seqaxp.bio.caltech.edu (David Mathog)8 Subject: RE: OpenVMS article - please explain last line!, Message-ID: <9bpsti$e6j@gap.cco.caltech.edu>   In article <DC4745D1A85CA04180C83CDC706A9D180D9538@cthexc02.americas.cpqcorp.net>, "Main, Kerry" <Kerry.Main@compaq.com> writes: >aH >Again, the current low end Alpha DS20 systems use a 5.2Gb/sec cross barE >switch technology. No one thinks of the DS20 as a "highest end Alphae	 >system".t  K But it's very important to realize exactly what that means. When I ran the  I "mybenchmark" programs on a DS20 they came out exactly like they did on a G DS10.  That confused me until somebody pointed out that the faster data-I rate was from BOTH processors to memory - you only see it if your programiF is running on both processors (multithreaded) or if you're running twoK programs at once.  Any single threaded program "sees" a DS20 pretty much ase if it was just a DS10. u   Regards,   David Mathog mathog@caltech.edu? Manager, sequence analysis facility, biology division, Caltech  J **************************************************************************J *                                RIP VMS                                 *J **************************************************************************   ------------------------------  # Date: Fri, 20 Apr 2001 10:44:25 GMTR+ From: psherwin@strayduck.com (Paul Sherwin) 0 Subject: Re: OpenVMS equiv of UNIX  pipe Command3 Message-ID: <3ae01276.248113087@news.onetel.net.uk>   @ On Tue, 17 Apr 2001 10:24:31 GMT, system@SendSpamHere.ORG (Brian Schenkenberger, VAXman-) wrote:e  Z >In article <9bh0ck$gp6$1@news.adamastor.ac.za>, "Thys de Wet" <thys@it.sun.ac.za> writes:	 >>Hi all,h >>E >>Is there an equivalent in OpenVMS 7.2 for the UNIX 's PIPE command?U >>2 >>Please help, even if it seems a stupid question. >> >>Thanxh >>M >>T de Wet, University of Stellenbosch, South Africa (where do it the OpenVMSu >>way) >> >> >i >$ HELP PIPE  C If you're running VMS before 7.0, you can write a bit of code to don? this using mailboxes. Use the $CRMBX system service to create aiB permanent mailbox, then use it as a pipe. There's probably lots ofE code out there to do this, but it's pretty easy to write it yourself.e  	 HTH, Paul @ Paul Sherwin Consulting     22 Monmouth Road, Oxford OX1 4TD, UK= Phone  +44 (0)1865 721438   http://www.psherwin.strayduck.com99 Mobile +44 (0)7931 578334   mailto:psherwin@strayduck.com1   ------------------------------  # Date: Fri, 20 Apr 2001 11:13:46 GMTb= From: system@SendSpamHere.ORG (Brian Schenkenberger, VAXman-)t0 Subject: Re: OpenVMS equiv of UNIX  pipe Command0 Message-ID: <009FACF1.E72608E2@SendSpamHere.ORG>  a In article <3ae01276.248113087@news.onetel.net.uk>, psherwin@strayduck.com (Paul Sherwin) writes:sA >On Tue, 17 Apr 2001 10:24:31 GMT, system@SendSpamHere.ORG (Brianf  >Schenkenberger, VAXman-) wrote: >p[ >>In article <9bh0ck$gp6$1@news.adamastor.ac.za>, "Thys de Wet" <thys@it.sun.ac.za> writes: 
 >>>Hi all, >>> F >>>Is there an equivalent in OpenVMS 7.2 for the UNIX 's PIPE command? >>> 3 >>>Please help, even if it seems a stupid question.t >>>t >>>Thanx >>>aN >>>T de Wet, University of Stellenbosch, South Africa (where do it the OpenVMS >>>way)  >>>l >>>e >>
 >>$ HELP PIPE  >kD >If you're running VMS before 7.0, you can write a bit of code to do@ >this using mailboxes. Use the $CRMBX system service to create aC >permanent mailbox, then use it as a pipe. There's probably lots ofpF >code out there to do this, but it's pretty easy to write it yourself. >o
 >HTH, PaulA >Paul Sherwin Consulting     22 Monmouth Road, Oxford OX1 4TD, UK.> >Phone  +44 (0)1865 721438   http://www.psherwin.strayduck.com: >Mobile +44 (0)7931 578334   mailto:psherwin@strayduck.com  A There are also several DCL "hacks" to create a mailbox for use in  such a scheme as well.     --O VAXman- OpenVMS APE certification number: AAA-0001     VAXman(at)TMESIS(dot)COMi            pO city, n., 1. a place where trees are cut down and streets are named after them.r   ------------------------------    Date: 20 Apr 2001 08:24:18 -0500- From: koehler@encompasserve.org (Bob Koehler) 0 Subject: Re: OpenVMS equiv of UNIX  pipe Command3 Message-ID: <YR8Lgda3qnAG@eisner.encompasserve.org>c  a In article <3ae01276.248113087@news.onetel.net.uk>, psherwin@strayduck.com (Paul Sherwin) writes: E > If you're running VMS before 7.0, you can write a bit of code to dotA > this using mailboxes. Use the $CRMBX system service to create auD > permanent mailbox, then use it as a pipe. There's probably lots ofG > code out there to do this, but it's pretty easy to write it yourself.   E Or you can find Ken Wallewein's PIPE on the net.  Uses scratch files.   F ----------------------------------------------------------------------? Bob Koehler                     | Computer Sciences Corporation0= NASA GSFC Flight Software       | Federal Sector, Civil Group E                                 | please remove ".aspm" when replyingl   ------------------------------    Date: 20 Apr 2001 11:57:01 -0500+ From: young_r@encompasserve.org (Rob Young)f& Subject: Outstanding News for OpenVMS!3 Message-ID: <NxnKLFiPC26T@eisner.encompasserve.org>h  " 	Congratulations to Rich Marcello!  ' http://www.theinquirer.net/20040106.htm   N "As a result of the latest changes, the Business Critical Server Group becomesL the Business Critical SOLUTIONS Group. OpenVMS Group VP Rich Marcello is nowJ the VP and General Manager of the High Performance Systems Division, which@ means Alpha platforms and engineering, Tru64 UNIX, and OpenVMS."  5 	This is truly outstanding news as far as a long-term  	VMS fan is concerned!   ------------------------------  % Date: Fri, 20 Apr 2001 17:12:03 +0100f- From: Tim Llewellyn <tim.llewellyn@bbc.co.uk>f* Subject: Re: Outstanding News for OpenVMS!) Message-ID: <3AE05FD3.D72468A5@bbc.co.uk>e   Rob Young wrote:  + >         Congratulations to Rich Marcello!s >n) > http://www.theinquirer.net/20040106.htm  >-P > "As a result of the latest changes, the Business Critical Server Group becomesN > the Business Critical SOLUTIONS Group. OpenVMS Group VP Rich Marcello is nowL > the VP and General Manager of the High Performance Systems Division, whichB > means Alpha platforms and engineering, Tru64 UNIX, and OpenVMS." > > >         This is truly outstanding news as far as a long-term >         VMS fan is concerned!r  > absolutely! The good news for VMS and Alpha just keeps coming.   --6 Tim Llewellyn, OpenVMS Infrastructure, Remarcs Project0 MedAS at the BBC, Whiteladies Road, Bristol, UK.A Email tim.llewellyn@bbc.co.uk. Home tim.llewellyn@cableinet.co.uki  A I speak for myself only and my views in no way represent those of  MedAS or the BBC.    ------------------------------  % Date: Fri, 20 Apr 2001 07:55:30 -0400l1 From: "Todd Nelson" <toddnelson@lehighcounty.org>t$ Subject: Re: Printer recommendations/ Message-ID: <te08n4jbo88d79@corp.supernews.com>e  K The LNM40 Printers Definitely work.  I have two on site using DCPS (v1.71?)R and using duplex, etc.L In fact, the printers are used heavily and seem to be holding up better than the LN32 printers. These printers are quick.   D Also, speaking from experience, DCPS engineers and Genicom work wellD together as far as fixing anything that doesn't work.  I had lots ofL problems with the Compaq LN16 and Dec LN17 under a previous version of DCPS.- They didn't stop until my problem was solved.l   Todd Nelsone County of Lehigh toddnelson@lehighcounty-dot-orgd    4 "Jack Patteeuw" <jpatteeu@ford.com> wrote in message" news:3ADEDC04.151F2D99@ford.com...< > While most of our LPS32 printers are still running strong,6 > we are looking to replace some some old Kodak 90 ppm8 > printers.  We don't need quite that much speed and are9 > looking at the  Genicom LNM40.  Whatever we choose muste$ > have duplex and full DCPS support. >s' > Any experience with LNM40 out there ?" >d< > Any other recommendations in the 30-60 ppm range (Remember > we need full DCPS support).e >o > Jack Patteeuw    ------------------------------  % Date: Fri, 20 Apr 2001 09:38:26 +010042 From: "John Murray" <JohnStuartMurray@hotmail.com>9 Subject: Re: Problem of not being able to send SMTP email(1 Message-ID: <tdvtdh7c8uof2d@corp.supernews.co.uk>n  L Is is possible to point all SMTP mail at a smarthost that can do all the dnsI delivery for you?  Wouldn't this eliminate the delay when typing the smtps address?    ; "Trevor Blake" <see.below@signature.block> wrote in messagen) news:3ADD728E.8372470C@signature.block...e > Hi Phillip > J > I believe the reason you are unable to send SMTP mail may be because youG > have not set up DNS correctly, as mentioned in your earlier post.  MyoI > understanding is UCX SMTP uses the UCX Name Service (aka Bind Resolver)oF > to resolve where to send your mail, using MX Records.  The delay youF > mentioned when typing in a SMTP address can occur when SMTP tries toI > resolve the address via the name service but gets no response and timesaJ > out.  Take a look at UCX HELP SHOW MX.  Try UCX SHOW MX compaq.com , youH > should get a list of mail machines where UCX can send your mail.  From > my location I get: >r< > 161.114.1.206    5                ztxmail02.ztx.COMPAQ.COM< > 161.114.1.205    5                ztxmail01.ztx.COMPAQ.COM< > 161.114.32.102   5                zcamail02.zca.COMPAQ.COM< > 161.114.32.101   5                zcamail01.zca.COMPAQ.COM< > 161.114.64.102   5                zmamail02.zma.COMPAQ.COM< > 161.114.64.101   5                zmamail01.zma.COMPAQ.COM >aI > So I think you need to set up your Name service, take a look at and UCXmH > HELP SET/SHOW NAME.  You need to specify a server and domain.  You mayG > need to check your SMTP ZONE and GATEWAY settings as well.  Hope this  > helps. >a >  > Regards, Trevor  >- > Phillip Helbig wrote:  > >rD > > I'm still trying to solve the problem.  I guess Easter isn't the > > best time to do so.t > >eK > > I put the ISPs SMTP server (or wwhhat I think the ISP's SMT P serverhC > > is) as the lateralternate gateway.  Still no change in the  bahaehaviour. > >sE > > I suspet pect it is nsome inconsistencey rgegarding variousiE > > configguuration settings at various places (SMTP, NAME_SERVICE,t > > ROUTE).e > >  > >  > -- > Regards,  Trevor Blake > J > You can reach me at: trevorXblakeZbaesystemsXcom  but replace X Z X by . > @ .l >nB > Disclaimer:   Don't believe a word, 'cause words are only spokenH >               And lies are no comfort, when there's tears in your eyes   ------------------------------  + Date: Fri, 20 Apr 2001 09:34:46 +0100 (CET) ' From: SWARS@mailer.MPI-STUTTGART.MPG.DE, Subject: ps to pdf< Message-ID: <01K2M9ARJAW28WZ8RR@MAILER.MPI-STUTTGART.MPG.DE>  4 Hi all is there a ps to pdf converter for ovms alpha many thanks h.swarsS   ------------------------------  % Date: Fri, 20 Apr 2001 11:40:06 +0200R( From: "Bruin, J.M. de" <Bruin@WT.TNO.NL> Subject: RE: ps to pdfC Message-ID: <2ABC8BB85FE5D411AC100008C7F37BC227D925@wt15.wt.tno.nl>    Ghostscript?  1 http://www.cs.wisc.edu/~ghost/doc/AFPL/get700.htm,   Mark  K ---------------------------------------------------------------------------wH Mark de Bruin                                   Voice : +31 15 269 69 05H TNO Crash Safety Centre Laboratories            Fax   : +31 15 257 21 04K Innovations, Communication & Information        GSM   : +31 653 44 21 45   gG Room: GBS 1.1                                   E-mail: bruin@wt.tno.nl-7 P.O. Box 6033                                   URL   :  http://www.automotive.tno.nlI 2600 JA Delft  The Netherlands                          http://www.tno.nl.       -----Original Message-----' From: SWARS@mailer.MPI-STUTTGART.MPG.DEs* [mailto:SWARS@mailer.MPI-STUTTGART.MPG.DE]" Sent: Friday, April 20, 2001 10:35 To: Info-VAX@Mvb.Saic.Como Subject: ps to pdf    4 Hi all is there a ps to pdf converter for ovms alpha many thanks h.swarsa   ------------------------------  # Date: Fri, 20 Apr 2001 15:53:00 GMTn& From: thompson_n.o.s.p.a.m@athenet.net Subject: shadow_server logicalsa: Message-ID: <wXYD6.1644$V6.175084@typhoon.mn.mediaone.net>  C I have set the shad$merge_delay_factor logical and found it useful.i  F The most recent "ask the wizard" mentioned a logical which I had neverJ heard of before: SHAD$COPY_BUFFER_SIZE.  Has anyone experimented with thisJ to find optimum values?  Is it specific to any versions of VMS? Any rules  of thumb?  A  K This got me curious, and a DUMP/PAGE of SHADOW_SERVER.EXE shows what looks  G like another logical: SHADOW_SERVER$MAIL_NOTIFICATION.  Sounds useful,   anyone familiar with it?   Paul     -- h   ------------------------------  + Date: Fri, 20 Apr 2001 07:34:09 +0000 (UTC)m) From: anface@yahoo.com (SANFACE Software)0 Subject: SHAREWARE: txt2pdf 4.5 ? Message-ID: <20010420073409.8054.qmail@web11207.mail.yahoo.com>o  5 txt2pdf is a very flexible and powerful PERL5 programr4 (5 penguins at LinuxBerg, 5 cows at TuCows Mac, BeOS and PSION). 5 It's a converter from text files to PDF format files.  Why do you need txt2pdf?% Most of your documents are text filest4 Usually, your reports from legacy applications, DBs,+ ERP applications, datawarehouse are textual 5 txt2pdf is a PERL5 script, so you can use it in every-% operating systems supported by PERL5,:6 if you prefer we distribute also executables for these3 OS: Windows,Linux,Solaris,AIX,HP-UX,FreeBSD. Inside . the Windows version a VB GUI (Visual txt2pdf) 5 txt2pdf is a native converter, you don't need to passe through PostScript formatc2 txt2pdf is specific for text to PDF conversion, so5 you can mark coloured (using PERL regular expression)a! frases in the produced PDF files h3 you can mark bold, italic, bolditalic frases in they produced PDF files 0% you can add page number in every page 3 you can add text at the beginning and at the end ofc
 every file" you can add a border to every page/ every word like http://... ftp://... mailto:...w https://...i. file:... ldap:... news:...  will become an URL5 you can create a link to a specific page within a PDF/ document http://...pdfdocument#pdfmarkw0 every word like mime:... will become a link that1 launch the correct application and opens the file , you can use background and foreground layers0 every predefined encodings, supported by the PDF( format, is supported + the Unix default ! txt2pdf supports STDIN and STDOUTp2 EPD 1.0 support. You can use EPD inside background layer.  the fee for every licence is $854 SANFACE Software is going to give you a free licence, for every good idea or for every good modify    txt2pdf is shareware5 The txt2pdf source code is our company core business. 
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We help you see your full potential.N mailto:sanface@sanface.com http://www.sanface.com" WAP    http://www.sanface.com/wap/  i-mode http://www.sanface.com/i/  2 __________________________________________________ Do You Yahoo!?9 Yahoo! Auctions - buy the things you want at great prices  http://auctions.yahoo.com/   -- t6 Posted from web11207.mail.yahoo.com [216.136.131.189] 1 via Mailgate.ORG Server - http://www.Mailgate.ORGl   ------------------------------  % Date: Fri, 20 Apr 2001 08:14:00 -0400n7 From: David Beatty <David.Beatty@sasSPAMITUPTHEZZZ.com>m# Subject: Re: Spammed by I-S-E todayl2 Message-ID: <tifgOiQdMmaIYrSc5TrSLFdPokEQ@4ax.com>  < You are right, I just didn't think a list-bot would be smart< enough to figure it out.  I'll reconfigure my news reader as appropriate.   David R. Beatty.  A On Thu, 19 Apr 2001 16:44:33 -0400, Jim Agnew <Agnew@hsc.vcu.edu>t wrote:  b >not really.. looking at your email, the uppercase/lowercase difference is quite, er, LOUD!... ;-) >0 >j.r >s >David Beatty wrote: >> "5 >> I was Spammed by them as well.  It would take somen. >> intelligence on their list-bot to get mine. >> r >> David R. Beatty >> o3 >> On Thu, 19 Apr 2001 11:26:05 -0700, "Randy Park"e) >> <rjpark@mindspring.com.nospaam> wrote:e >> y= >> >Today I received a massive spam e-mail from I-S-E.  As an = >> >occasional poster to comp.os.vms they obviously harvestedfB >> >my munged e-mail address from this newsgroup and intelligently2 >> >removed the '.nospaam' from my e-mail address. >> > >> > >> >   ------------------------------  % Date: Fri, 20 Apr 2001 11:09:05 +0200s5 From: Martin Knoblauch <Martin.Knoblauch@TeraPort.de>e5 Subject: Re: Using 3-phase power converters on VAXen?a+ Message-ID: <3ADFFCB1.37C78ED1@TeraPort.de>e  , This is a multi-part message in MIME format.& --------------66E4E5283F2EE20B56885D83* Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bitV   Paul Repacholi wrote:  > % > Shane.F.Smith@Healthnet.com writes:* > D > > In England or out here in the Colonies, I've never seen one that > > used 3 phase.  >  > What colony is that? > D > Here near every one is 3 phase. A 'single phase' stove is one that    H  I think it is more correct to say that most stoves have 3 power inputs.G If you have one phase that is strong enough to drive the maximum power,g1 you could connect the three inputs to that phase.e   Martin -- .B ------------------------------------------------------------------B Martin Knoblauch         |    email:  Martin.Knoblauch@TeraPort.de7 TeraPort GmbH            |    Phone:  +49-89-510857-309>7 IT Services              |    Fax:    +49-89-510857-111o5 http://www.teraport.de   |    Mobile: +49-170-4904759i& --------------66E4E5283F2EE20B56885D83- Content-Type: text/x-vcard; charset=us-ascii;   name="Martin.Knoblauch.vcf" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7biti. Content-Description: Card for Martin Knoblauch  Content-Disposition: attachment;   filename="Martin.Knoblauch.vcf"   begin:vcard  n:Knoblauch;Martin tel;cell:+49-170-4904759 tel;fax:+49-89-510857-111o tel;work:+49-89-510857-309 x-mozilla-html:FALSE url:http://www.teraport.de org:TeraPort GmbH;IT-Servicesa8 adr:;;Garmischer Strae 4;Mnchen;Bayern;D-80339;Germany version:2.1 + email;internet:Martin.Knoblauch@TeraPort.deS title:Senior System Engineer x-mozilla-cpt:;32160 fn:Martin Knoblauchu	 end:vcard   ( --------------66E4E5283F2EE20B56885D83--   ------------------------------  % Date: Fri, 20 Apr 2001 06:22:25 -0700s! From: Tom Linden <tom@kednos.com> 5 Subject: RE: Using 3-phase power converters on VAXen?d9 Message-ID: <CIEJLCMNHNNDLLOOGNJICENECGAA.tom@kednos.com>   D With 3 phase the three phases are 120 degrees out of phase.  You can" visualize this as three vectors ofI magnitude 220 V separated by 120 degrees and spinning at 60 (50) Hz, with  the origin being neutral.iI Thus the projection on to the x-axis of the vector difference between anyt two is SQRT(3)*220 = 380  % IIRC this is called an Argand diagram   9 sin(wt-60) - sin(wt+60) = 2 cos(60)sin wt = sqrt(3)sin wtf  G 3 phase is avaialble in the US but mostly in areas where businesses are$F located and if your residence is close to such an area you can get it.G Normal residential is represented by 2 110 V vectors 180 degrees out oft; phase.  220 is achieve by the vector difference of the two.o  G The advantage of three phase is that you can deliver the same amount of4 power with less copper.s  # Can we now put this thread to rest!4   Tomt     > -----Original Message-----> > From: Martin Knoblauch [mailto:Martin.Knoblauch@TeraPort.de]& > Sent: Friday, April 20, 2001 2:09 AM > To: Info-VAX@Mvb.Saic.Comr7 > Subject: Re: Using 3-phase power converters on VAXen?i >  >  > Paul Repacholi wrote:e > >d' > > Shane.F.Smith@Healthnet.com writes:  > >-F > > > In England or out here in the Colonies, I've never seen one that > > > used 3 phase.  > >K > > What colony is that? > >eF > > Here near every one is 3 phase. A 'single phase' stove is one that >o >cJ >  I think it is more correct to say that most stoves have 3 power inputs.I > If you have one phase that is strong enough to drive the maximum power,t3 > you could connect the three inputs to that phase.h >C > Martin > --D > ------------------------------------------------------------------D > Martin Knoblauch         |    email:  Martin.Knoblauch@TeraPort.de9 > TeraPort GmbH            |    Phone:  +49-89-510857-309E9 > IT Services              |    Fax:    +49-89-510857-111-7 > http://www.teraport.de   |    Mobile: +49-170-4904759h   ------------------------------  % Date: Fri, 20 Apr 2001 12:57:05 +0100S  From: steven.reece@quintiles.com- Subject: Re: VAX Models : How to be specific?lH Message-ID: <OFF956EC8E.EF298742-ON80256A34.00413FF8@qedi.quintiles.com>  J The console port was on the right and the logo was on the left.  Just like the TurboLasers.  J I'd predict the relative costs to be about the same or even higher for theJ VAX.  We got about 46k pounds GB for a VAX 7000-850 in November 1999 sinceG the people we sold it to wanted the CPUs for another client.  The 8400so> we've still got are apparently worth much less than that......   Steve.   Tim Llewellyn wrote: >>>n! steven.reece@quintiles.com wrote:eK >  (It's also a nice bit of trivia that they've got three VAX 7000 cabinetsa inD > a picture inside the flyer where the image has been reversed.  The console H > port is on the left had side of the cabinet and the writing is back to	 > front!)f >rA Hey, I noticed that too Steve, I was wondering if I needed an eyeiI checkup at first :-). Looks like a mirror image has been printed, did then@ VAX 7000 cabe have the logo on the left or right of the cabinet?  D I wonder what the cost of a refurbed VAX is compared to a new Alpha? <<<g   ------------------------------  % Date: Fri, 20 Apr 2001 09:25:43 +0100U4 From: John Laird <john@laird-towers.freeserve.co.uk> Subject: Re: VLCsM8 Message-ID: <17svdt0v19kbpft070k076f5tand2h3kb6@4ax.com>  G On Fri, 20 Apr 2001 05:00:24 GMT, rjordan@mars.mcs.net (Richard Jordan)  wrote:  I >VAXstation 4000 VLC models cannot reliably handle the higher heat outputn9 >of the 7200 RPM and faster drives; the low profile ones eI >will physically fit and probably run (assuming power draw) but there is eF >not sufficient ventilation to remove the heat; drive runs too hot andJ >you get reduced life.  I've heard from a few folks who had other problemsH >when running hot fast drives (power supply toasting, system reliability >issues, etc). > H >I'm pretty sure the specs for the VLC only had 5400RPM drives listed asG >compatible.  If you can find a 2 or 4GB 5400RPM drive you're probably n5 >fine using it internally (low profile, of course).  f  H My copy of the VLC Owners Guide lists precisely *one* hard drive option,C the ubiquitous RZ23L ;-)  This is a 3600rpm drive with access timesbG measured in eons.  I have used various Seagate drives successfully, butiF nothing over 1Gb, and not likely to be any faster than 5400rpm or withA excessive power requirements.  Bear in mind the box is completelytH "closed" apart from the one drive bay and has a power supply and cooling capacity to match.  0 That said, they are very handy portable devices.     	Johnn -- g
 John Laird   ------------------------------  % Date: Fri, 20 Apr 2001 08:45:00 -07000+ From: "Barry Treahy, Jr." <treahy@mmaz.com>P Subject: Re: VLCsi( Message-ID: <3AE0597C.1CBB1E58@mmaz.com>   John Laird wrote:o  2 > That said, they are very handy portable devices.  G Unless you expect to be carrying the VLC around, why mess with internal N drives, this does have an external SCSI port and with that you have a lot more
 options...   Barrye     --  ? Barry Treahy, Jr  *  Midwest Microwave  *  Vice President & CIO)  A E-mail: Treahy@mmaz.com * Phone: 480/314-1320 * FAX: 480/661-7028r   ------------------------------    Date: 20 Apr 2001 13:39:05 -0500+ From: kuhrt@encompasserve.org (Marty Kuhrt)n> Subject: Re: Why is this a Bad Thing? (was: Future Computing.)3 Message-ID: <8CEnjIvDWO6L@eisner.encompasserve.org>i  a In article <MZ0Pq+0H51pl@eisner.encompasserve.org>, young_r@encompasserve.org (Rob Young) writes:yT > In article <dorD6.3361$AF2.1685888@nntp3.onemain.com>, <tsmurphy@addr.com> writes: >>  3 >> Bill Todd <billtodd@foo.mv.com> wrote in messagel% >> news:9bithl$g30$1@pyrite.mv.net...uI >>> Why is it that the most clueless individuals are always the ones most,$ >>> certain of their misconceptions? >>> N >>> At any rate, while I don't have access to '00 figures, I do recall (from AH >>> Source Who Was Unquestionably In A Position To Know For A Fact) thatM >>> VMS-related contributions in 1999 to Compaq's *profit* totaled about $0.8dN >>> billion.  AFAIK, VMS margins haven't dropped significantly since then, and9 >>> VMS shipments are if anything up a bit.  Do the math.h >> gH >> Instead of resorting to name-calling and quoting unprovable anonymousO >> sources, let's have a cordial discussion based on publically available data.6 >> .N >> I present the profits of the major computer companies from '96 through '00. >>  + >>       CPQ  DELL   INTC   HWP   IBM   DEC + >> 96  $1883  $384  $5157 $2586 $5429 -$111 + >> 97  $2758  $747  $6945 $2515 $6093  $140m% >> 98 -$2662 $1368  $6068 $2678 $6328 % >> 99   $934 $2048  $7314 $3104 $7712 % >> 00   $594 $2451 $10535 $3561 $8093m  A Now lets see these numbers that reflect which groups inside theseoA companies made and lost money.  Putting out an overall number andO5 making conclusions from that is FUD, pure and simple.     F > 	Question is: can Dell repeat the magic?  Can they grow storage likeJ > 	they did Wintel servers?  Service?  Dell a full service provider? They I > 	have a lot of money.  But storage is a very nasty business, they have  B > 	little or no R&D.  Service is defined by companies like IBM andE > 	Compaq.  Maybe Dell can rebadge someones storage and sell it much ( > 	cheaper, yeah .... that'll work, NOT!  ? The Dell storage products I've had the misfortune to work with,E? the PowerEdge stuff, are rebadged Data General arrays (which is : now EMC, or is it?).  Misleading or missing features, poor? documentation, horrible support.  In short a nightmare compared 5 to the dream-easy StorageWorks setups I've worked on.a   ------------------------------  # Date: Fri, 20 Apr 2001 14:54:07 GMT-0 From: sander@vmsbiz.enet.dec.com (Warren Sander)9 Subject: Re: [BUG?] FREEWARE CD MENU: license expired :-( 3 Message-ID: <j4YD6.1095$fB6.26969@news.cpqcorp.net>U  L In article <3adf29d0$1@news.si.com>, "Brian Tillman" <tillman_brian> writes:? |>>The contents of a newer version of the CD than yout have arep |>>available via the web at: |>>n4 |>>http://www.openvms.compaq.com/freeware/index.html |>! |>The requested URL was not foundF |>HTTP status code: 404  |>-- hC |>Brian Tillman                   Internet: tillman_brian at si.comaC |>Smiths Aerospace                          tillman at swdev.si.com-? |>3290 Patterson Ave. SE, MS      Addresses modified to preventc> |>Grand Rapids, MI 49512-1991     SPAM.  Replace "at" with "@": |>       This opinion doesn't represent that of my company |> |> |> |>  : http://www.openvms.compaq.com/freeware is the freeware cd M (you can also ftp to ftp.openvms.compaq.com but ftp://www.openvms.compaq.com  ; doesn't work because of how I have the system configured...   L http://www.openvms.compaq.com/openvms/freeware/index.html is the intro files for the freeware cd etc.       -- lB ------------------------------------------------------------------6 Warren Sander                        OpenVMS MarketingD Compaq Computer Corporation          Work:  warren.sander@compaq.comE 200 Forest Street MR01-3/J1          Personal: sander@ma.ultranet.com-3 Marlboro, MA 01752                   (508) 467-4875s6    My opinions are my own and I only speak for myself -          Read http://www.openvms.compaq.com/ .B ------------------------------------------------------------------   ------------------------------  % Date: Fri, 20 Apr 2001 08:18:24 +0200l( From: Bernd Eckstein <B.Eckstein@cli.de>; Subject: Re: [BUG] wrong APACHE file location after install & Message-ID: <3ADFD4B0.EE492098@cli.de>   Didier Morandi wrote:  > N > I am an ol'timmer, I answered <RETURN> to all installation questions, so the+ > installation took place in [vms$common]. E  	 So did I.C  F > p 2.5 it says "To configure the server, enter the following command: >  > @sys$manager:apache$config"e  G Just do it. It was ok for me. You just have to do it once. Never again.o  P > As the apache$config.com is in the installed directory instead of sys$manager,  * And that's the only file needed by apache.   -- eC B.Eckstein, TTi Entwicklungszentrum GmbH - mailto:B.Eckstein@cli.deoC Matthiashofstr. 28, D-52064 Aachen - Fon: +49 241 47051-0, Fax: -89o   ------------------------------  % Date: Fri, 20 Apr 2001 10:13:46 -0400e! From: "Kevin" <NoSpam@compaq.com>c; Subject: Re: [BUG] wrong APACHE file location after installt3 Message-ID: <iuXD6.1092$fB6.27069@news.cpqcorp.net>   4 Thanks for the information, but I am a bit confused.  C Inside APACHE$CONFIG.COM is a routine called CREATE_SERVER_ACCOUNT.iE If the [APACHE$WWW] UIC exists, we don't look for APACHE$ADDUSER.COM.p9 (Your problem statement is that it can't find the file.).e  I By taking the default you installed in SYS$COMMON:, and the configuration  fileI reflects that.  Furthermore, when APACHE$CONFIG.COM runs again, it shouldd@ correctly parse the PCSI path and look for APACHE$ADDUSER there.  7 What is odd is that you have an APACHE$CONFIG.DAT file.gK You only get that after a successful configuration (including an APACHE$WWW + account being created or already existing).tK If you have to run APACHE$ADDUSER (i.e. you don't have an account), how didl youmH get that file?  After installation for the first time the only file that	 exists is.  )     SYS$STARTUP:APACHE$CONFIG_DEFAULT.DAT.   Are you up and running now?h   Kevin.    . "Didier Morandi" <DMo@ims.ch> wrote in message  news:3ADFC8E6.EA0C370F@ims.ch...J > I am an ol'timmer, I answered <RETURN> to all installation questions, so theaC > installation took place in [vms$common]. The doc says p2.3 of thee InstallationG > and Configuration Guide v1.3.12 OpenVMS Alpha, 2: "Make sure you areo	 logged on - > as a privileged user (for example SYSTEM)".e >y > I was.F > p 2.5 it says "To configure the server, enter the following command: >u > @sys$manager:apache$config"a >eC > As the apache$config.com is in the installed directory instead of  sys$manager, IG > imagine that the .PCSI$DESC file doesn't "file" the file in the rightN place. >r+ > Please post the PCSI description file :-)  >i > D. > ) > SYS$SYSROOT:[SYSMGR]APACHE$CONFIG.DAT;1o >a > ##. > ##  WARNING: Do not edit this file yourself.8 > ##  Configuration data file is built and maintained by, > ##  SYS$COMMON:[SYSMGR]APACHE$CONFIG.COM;1 > ##% > ##  Written 19-APR-2001 18:32:26.22d > ## > VERSION                 1.0t- > PATH_PCSI               SYS$COMMON:[APACHE]c- > PATH_COMMON             SYS$COMMON:[APACHE]O% > PATH_HTDOCS             DATA2:[WEB].> > PATH_SPECIFIC           SYS$COMMON:[APACHE.SPECIFIC.IMS0202] > TCPIP_SERVICE           NO >C >o > Kevin wrote: > >gJ > > It appears that APACHE$CONFIG cannot determine where you installed the
 > > software.n, > > Please post some additional information:F > >     1. Where did you install the software.  In particular, did you	 include a_ > > /DESTINATION: > >         qualifier in the PRODUCT INSTALLATION command?4 > >     2. Please post the configuration data files:0 > >             $ type sys$startup:apache$*.dat; > >G > >e   ------------------------------  % Date: Fri, 20 Apr 2001 17:27:22 +0200,! From: Didier Morandi <DMo@ims.ch> ; Subject: Re: [BUG] wrong APACHE file location after installR& Message-ID: <3AE0555A.63BD4FEA@ims.ch>   Kevin,  - GD2089> dir gd2079"system rukiddin?"::*.pcsi*j  7 Directory GD2079"system password"::SYS$SYSROOT:[SYSMGR]e  # CPQ-AXPVMS-APACHE-V0103-12-1.PCSI;1e=                         6160/6165     22-AUG-2000 10:31:18.776# CPQ-AXPVMS-MOZILLA-M0008-1-1.PCSI;1u=                       120944/120960   27-MAR-2001 07:18:42.35r& DEC-AXPVMS-VMS721_PCSI-V0100--4.PCSI;1=                         3600/3600     13-APR-2000 09:15:23.33s. NETSCAPE-EXPORT-ALPHA-V303C4R-JAVA-GOLD.PCSI;1=                        17165/17172    15-DEC-1997 15:17:20.78R= TOTO.PCSI$DESC;17          1/18       24-FEB-2001 10:32:26.91a= TOTO.PCSI$TEXT;4           1/18       24-FEB-2001 10:32:27.06a  ' Total of 6 files, 147871/147933 blocks.- GD2089> ftp> FTP> open gd20792 220 ims0202.IMS.CH FTP Server (Version 5.0) Ready. Connected to imsf202.ims.ch. n$ Name (imsf202.ims.ch:system): system' 331 Username system requires a Password 
 Password:  230 User logged in.-+ FTP> get  CPQ-AXPVMS-APACHE-V0103-12-1.PCSI: 200 TYPE set to IMAGE. 200 PORT command successful.P 150 Opening data connection for SYS$SYSROOT:[SYSMGR]CPQ-AXPVMS-APACHE-V0103-12-1 .PCSI; (193.247.236.208,1025)e 226 Transfer complete.P local: SYS$SYSROOT:[SYSMGR]CPQ-AXPVMS-APACHE-V0103-12-1.PCSI;1  remote: CPQ-AXPV MS-APACHE-V0103-12-1.PCSIi? 3153920 bytes received in 00:00:03.67 seconds (838.55 Kbytes/s)  FTP>  Exit t 221 Goodbye. GD2089> dir /sinc    Directory SYS$SYSROOT:[SYSMGR]  # CPQ-AXPVMS-APACHE-V0103-12-1.PCSI;1d=                         6160/6165     20-APR-2001 16:20:18.85n  " Total of 1 file, 6160/6165 blocks. GD2089> dir apa*! %DIRECT-W-NOFILES, no files founda GD2089> prod inst apache  p( The following product has been selected::     CPQ AXPVMS APACHE V1.3-12              Layered Product  e Do you want to continue? [YES] n  -  Configuration phase starting ...  -N You will be asked to choose options, if any, for each selected product and forO any products that may be installed to satisfy software dependency requirements.T  r CPQ AXPVMS APACHE V1.3-12:   A     Compaq Computer Corporation & The Apache Software Foundation.9  57 * This product does not have any configuration options.   t Execution phase starting ...  7 The following product will be installed to destination:iF     CPQ AXPVMS APACHE V1.3-12              DISK$ALPHASYS:[VMS$COMMON.]  tM Portion done: 0%...10%...20%...30%...40%...50%...60%...70%...80%...90%...100%   ) The following product has been installed:5:     CPQ AXPVMS APACHE V1.3-12              Layered Product  t CPQ AXPVMS APACHE V1.3-12e  oC     Release notes are available in SYS$HELP:APACHE*.RELEASE_NOTES. 9  r?     Compaq highly recommends that you read these release notes.      C     For the most up-to-date documentation, including release notes,nH     Frequently Asked Questions (FAQs), and information about configuringH     and running Apache on OpenVMS, please see the Apache for OpenVMS web     pages at     I     http://www.openvms.compaq.com/openvms/products/ips/apache/apache.htmlH     @     Post-installation tasks are required for Apache for OpenVMS.  2A     The release notes give detailed directions.  This informationf     is a brief checklist.      2     Configure OpenVMS aspects of Apache server by:     $         $ @SYS$MANAGER:APACHE$CONFIG     B     If the OpenVMS username APACHE$WWW does not exist, you will beA     prompted to create that username.  File ownerships are set to+     UIC [APACHE$WWW], etc.     ;     After configuration, start Apache manually by entering:e        s%         $ @SYS$STARTUP:APACHE$STARTUP      ;     Check that neither SYLOGIN.COM nor the Apache LOGIN.COMr<     write any output to SYS$OUTPUT:.  Look especially for a               $ SET TERMINAL/INQUIRE.e                    g>     Start the Apache server at system boot time by adding the 5     following lines to SYS$MANAGER:SYSTARTUP_VMS.COM: 	          o0         $ file := SYS$STARTUP:APACHE$STARTUP.COM6         $ if f$search("''file'") .nes. "" then @'file'	           A     Shutdown the Apache server at system shutdown time by adding :5     the following lines to SYS$MANAGER:SYSHUTDWN.COM:a
              o1         $ file := SYS$STARTUP:APACHE$SHUTDOWN.COM 6         $ if f$search("''file'") .nes. "" then @'file'     :     Test the installation using your favorite Web browser.G     Replace host.domain in the following URL (Uniform Resource Locator)oJ     with the information for the Apache server just installed, configured,     and started.     I     URL http://host.domain/ should display the standard introductory page @     from the Apache Software Foundation. This has the bold text E     "It Worked! The Apache Web Server is Installed on this Web Site!"-I     at the top  and the  Apache server logo prominently displayed at the  H     bottom.  If you do not see this page,  check the Apache for OpenVMS G     release notes, particularly the Frequently Asked Questions section.|     +     Thank you for using Apache for OpenVMS.-           GD2089> dir apa*   Directory SYS$COMMON:[SYSMGR]v   APACHE$CONFIG.COM;1 =                          125/126      20-APR-2001 16:21:33.89F    Total of 1 file, 125/126 blocks. GD2089> @APACHE$CONFIG         :                 Compaq HTTP Server Configuration Procedure         ?         This procedure helps you define the parameters and the mD         operating environment required to run the Compaq HTTP Server$         for OpenVMS on this system. 9 ERROR: Required OpenVMS APACHE$WWW account does not exist P ERROR: Missing required command procedure: SYS$SYSROOT:[SYSMGR]APACHE$ADDUSER.CO Mi %SYSTEM-F-ABORT, abort GD2089>    Then?t D.   Kevin wrote: > 6 > Thanks for the information, but I am a bit confused. ../..b   METOO::    :-)t   ------------------------------  % Date: Fri, 20 Apr 2001 11:58:32 -0400o5 From: David Beatty <David.Beatty@qwertysasasdfgh.com>n; Subject: Re: [BUG] wrong APACHE file location after installI2 Message-ID: <zFvgOqpJS3RjTg=CuYXbvycT9hU4@4ax.com>  @ Didier, is there any reason you are running Apache (which is the< Beta version) rather that Compaq Secure Web Server (which is= the production version)?  You can download the production kith atD http://www.openvms.compaq.com/openvms/products/ips/apache/csws.html.   David R. Beattyo  F On Fri, 20 Apr 2001 17:27:22 +0200, Didier Morandi <DMo@ims.ch> wrote:   >Kevin,0 >k. >GD2089> dir gd2079"system rukiddin?"::*.pcsi* >28 >Directory GD2079"system password"::SYS$SYSROOT:[SYSMGR] >t$ >CPQ-AXPVMS-APACHE-V0103-12-1.PCSI;1> >                        6160/6165     22-AUG-2000 10:31:18.77$ >CPQ-AXPVMS-MOZILLA-M0008-1-1.PCSI;1> >                      120944/120960   27-MAR-2001 07:18:42.35' >DEC-AXPVMS-VMS721_PCSI-V0100--4.PCSI;1 > >                        3600/3600     13-APR-2000 09:15:23.33/ >NETSCAPE-EXPORT-ALPHA-V303C4R-JAVA-GOLD.PCSI;1b> >                       17165/17172    15-DEC-1997 15:17:20.78> >TOTO.PCSI$DESC;17          1/18       24-FEB-2001 10:32:26.91> >TOTO.PCSI$TEXT;4           1/18       24-FEB-2001 10:32:27.06 >c( >Total of 6 files, 147871/147933 blocks. >GD2089> ftp >FTP> open gd2079l3 >220 ims0202.IMS.CH FTP Server (Version 5.0) Ready.O >Connected to imsf202.ims.ch. % >Name (imsf202.ims.ch:system): system2( >331 Username system requires a Password >Password: s >230 User logged in., >FTP> get  CPQ-AXPVMS-APACHE-V0103-12-1.PCSI >200 TYPE set to IMAGE.o >200 PORT command successful.5Q >150 Opening data connection for SYS$SYSROOT:[SYSMGR]CPQ-AXPVMS-APACHE-V0103-12-1  >.PCSI; (193.247.236.208,1025) >226 Transfer complete.pQ >local: SYS$SYSROOT:[SYSMGR]CPQ-AXPVMS-APACHE-V0103-12-1.PCSI;1  remote: CPQ-AXPVe >MS-APACHE-V0103-12-1.PCSI@ >3153920 bytes received in 00:00:03.67 seconds (838.55 Kbytes/s) >FTP>  Exit 
 >221 Goodbye.T >GD2089> dir /sinc >z >Directory SYS$SYSROOT:[SYSMGR]g >D$ >CPQ-AXPVMS-APACHE-V0103-12-1.PCSI;1> >                        6160/6165     20-APR-2001 16:20:18.85 >.# >Total of 1 file, 6160/6165 blocks.t >GD2089> dir apa*m" >%DIRECT-W-NOFILES, no files found >GD2089> prod inst apachet > ) >The following product has been selected: ; >    CPQ AXPVMS APACHE V1.3-12              Layered Product  >   >Do you want to continue? [YES]  > ! >Configuration phase starting ...: > O >You will be asked to choose options, if any, for each selected product and for P >any products that may be installed to satisfy software dependency requirements. >  >CPQ AXPVMS APACHE V1.3-12 > B >    Compaq Computer Corporation & The Apache Software Foundation. > 8 >* This product does not have any configuration options. >  >Execution phase starting ...D >38 >The following product will be installed to destination:G >    CPQ AXPVMS APACHE V1.3-12              DISK$ALPHASYS:[VMS$COMMON.]: > N >Portion done: 0%...10%...20%...30%...40%...50%...60%...70%...80%...90%...100% >w* >The following product has been installed:; >    CPQ AXPVMS APACHE V1.3-12              Layered Products >  >CPQ AXPVMS APACHE V1.3-12 > D >    Release notes are available in SYS$HELP:APACHE*.RELEASE_NOTES.  > @ >    Compaq highly recommends that you read these release notes. >    tD >    For the most up-to-date documentation, including release notes,I >    Frequently Asked Questions (FAQs), and information about configuringhI >    and running Apache on OpenVMS, please see the Apache for OpenVMS weby
 >    pages ats >     J >    http://www.openvms.compaq.com/openvms/products/ips/apache/apache.html >    tA >    Post-installation tasks are required for Apache for OpenVMS.> > B >    The release notes give detailed directions.  This information >    is a brief checklist. >    83 >    Configure OpenVMS aspects of Apache server by:  >    2% >        $ @SYS$MANAGER:APACHE$CONFIG3 >    1C >    If the OpenVMS username APACHE$WWW does not exist, you will beeB >    prompted to create that username.  File ownerships are set to >    UIC [APACHE$WWW], etc.l >     < >    After configuration, start Apache manually by entering: >       & >        $ @SYS$STARTUP:APACHE$STARTUP >    g< >    Check that neither SYLOGIN.COM nor the Apache LOGIN.COM= >    write any output to SYS$OUTPUT:.  Look especially for a o >       >        $ SET TERMINAL/INQUIRE. >                   ? >    Start the Apache server at system boot time by adding the  6 >    following lines to SYS$MANAGER:SYSTARTUP_VMS.COM:
 >         1 >        $ file := SYS$STARTUP:APACHE$STARTUP.COMu7 >        $ if f$search("''file'") .nes. "" then @'file' 
 >         B >    Shutdown the Apache server at system shutdown time by adding 6 >    the following lines to SYS$MANAGER:SYSHUTDWN.COM: >             2 >        $ file := SYS$STARTUP:APACHE$SHUTDOWN.COM7 >        $ if f$search("''file'") .nes. "" then @'file'- >     ; >    Test the installation using your favorite Web browser.tH >    Replace host.domain in the following URL (Uniform Resource Locator)K >    with the information for the Apache server just installed, configured,e >    and started.i >    "J >    URL http://host.domain/ should display the standard introductory pageA >    from the Apache Software Foundation. This has the bold text >F >    "It Worked! The Apache Web Server is Installed on this Web Site!"J >    at the top  and the  Apache server logo prominently displayed at the I >    bottom.  If you do not see this page,  check the Apache for OpenVMS  H >    release notes, particularly the Frequently Asked Questions section. >    s, >    Thank you for using Apache for OpenVMS. >    9 >    P >GD2089> dir apa*i >" >Directory SYS$COMMON:[SYSMGR] >e >APACHE$CONFIG.COM;1> >                         125/126      20-APR-2001 16:21:33.89 >h! >Total of 1 file, 125/126 blocks.o >GD2089> @APACHE$CONFIGu	 >        .; >                Compaq HTTP Server Configuration Procedures	 >        g@ >        This procedure helps you define the parameters and the E >        operating environment required to run the Compaq HTTP Server-% >        for OpenVMS on this system. -: >ERROR: Required OpenVMS APACHE$WWW account does not existQ >ERROR: Missing required command procedure: SYS$SYSROOT:[SYSMGR]APACHE$ADDUSER.CO  >M >%SYSTEM-F-ABORT, abort 	 >GD2089> o >: >Then? >D.t >e
 >Kevin wrote:o >> 07 >> Thanks for the information, but I am a bit confused.e >../.. >  >METOO:: >f >:-)   ------------------------------  % Date: Fri, 20 Apr 2001 13:32:48 -0400-! From: "Kevin" <NoSpam@compaq.com>-; Subject: Re: [BUG] wrong APACHE file location after installp. Message-ID: <Wo_D6.11$5I.631@news.cpqcorp.net>   Thanks for the information.[  J I still can't figure out where the SYS$STARTUP:APACHE$CONFIG.DAT file came< from as that seems to indicate that this worked at one time.  ; Can you please repeat this experiment in the following way:tJ     1.  Please use the Compaq Secure Web Server Version 1.0 - 1 instead of theg          Apache Version 1.3.12.nE     2.  Please delete any SYS$STARTUP:APACHE$*.DAT;* files before you  install.>     3.  Please show us the definitions of these logical names:'          $ show logical sys$common/fulle(          $ show logical sys$sysroot/full?     4.  Enable verbose messages when running APACHE$CONFIG.COM:u+          $ define apache$config_verbose yeso%          $ @sys$startup:apache$config     
 Thank you.   ------------------------------  % Date: Fri, 20 Apr 2001 08:27:55 +02000< From: "Martin Vorlaender" <martin.vorlaender@pdv-systeme.de>+ Subject: Re: [Q] Making Perl work with CSWSg4 Message-ID: <9boks6$acmcr$1@ID-56200.news.dfncis.de>   Mr. Generic wrote...E >I have been trying to get mod_perl to work with CSWS (Apache 1.3.14)d withoutEK >much luck. I believe my sample code works (below), as I have tried it on aSI >Tru64 server and a Solaris box with success. It runs from DCL (below). ItJ >believe the problem may lie in the ShBang ("#!") line, but I've not found6 >the magic path. I've included the PERL logical below.  > It must have something to do with your perl or mod_perl setup. It works on my installation.  G But then, I have the perl verb in the global DCL tables, and instructed / mod_perl to run .pl scripts whereever they are.W   cu,o   Martin   --J One OS to rule them all       | Martin Vorlaender  |  VMS & WNT programmer7 One OS to find them           | work: mv@pdv-systeme.denJ One OS to bring them all      |   http://www.pdv-systeme.de/users/martinv/> And in the Darkness bind them.| home: martin@radiogaga.harz.de   ------------------------------  % Date: Fri, 20 Apr 2001 10:32:08 -0400." From: Dan Sugalski <dan@sidhe.org>+ Subject: Re: [Q] Making Perl work with CSWSq: Message-ID: <5.0.2.1.0.20010420103109.02384910@24.8.96.48>  / At 11:01 PM 4/19/2001 +0000, Mr. Generic wrote:o >#!/perl  K Your problem might be this. Try changing it to"#! perl" instead. (You have iL told apache and mod_perl about the directories that hold CGI programs, yes?)   					Dan  I --------------------------------------"it's like this"-------------------t2 Dan Sugalski                          even samurai? dan@sidhe.org                         have teddy bears and evene;                                       teddy bears get drunk    ------------------------------  # Date: Fri, 20 Apr 2001 16:44:31 GMTE' From: "Mr. Generic" <someone@microsoft>D+ Subject: Re: [Q] Making Perl work with CSWSrD Message-ID: <PHZD6.1462$nm1.155982@newsread2.prod.itd.earthlink.net>  = My PERLSHR is PERL_ROOT:[000000]PERLSHR.EXE, and PERL_ROOT is $ DKA0:[SYS0.SYSCOMMON.PERL5_005_03.].  G The Perl and came from the PCSI kit, and PROD SHOW HISTORY  lists it asY. CSWS_PERL T1.0-1. CSWS itself is Version T1.1.F I did a standard install from PCSI, and I'm using the standard CGI-BIN! directory, Apache$root:[cgi-bin].C  I The "/cgi-bin/test-cgi-vms.com;" does work. The "/cgi-bin/printenv." doese5 not. The failure generates an "Internal Server Error,sK The server encountered an internal error or misconfiguration and was unable.  to complete your request." page.  J My httpd.conf includes the line "Include /apache$root/conf/mod_perl.conf".      8 Hey!  What's this "Apache::PerlRun" in my mod_perl.conf?    
 Dave Lloyd    F "Craig A. Berry" <craig.berry@nospam.SignalTreeSolutions.com> wrote inK message news:craig.berry-84612F.23281319042001@newsrump.sjc.telocity.net...uB > In article <v7KD6.67$hH1.5137@newsread3.news.pas.earthlink.net>,+ >  "Mr. Generic" <someone@microsoft> wrote:D >9H > > I have been trying to get mod_perl to work with CSWS (Apache 1.3.14) withoutSL > > much luck. I believe my sample code works (below), as I have tried it on a L > > Tru64 server and a Solaris box with success. It runs from DCL (below). IG > > believe the problem may lie in the ShBang ("#!") line, but I've notS found_9 > > the magic path. I've included the PERL logical below.  >AD > What errors are you seeing, if any?  What is the definition of theF > PERLSHR logical name?  Are you running the PCSI-installed version of3 > Perl from Compaq or did you acquire it elsewhere?a >O   ------------------------------  % Date: Fri, 20 Apr 2001 12:38:05 +0200f! From: Didier Morandi <DMo@ims.ch>9) Subject: [Q] Mozilla does not like proxy?H& Message-ID: <3AE0118D.8EA24807@ims.ch>  L I just attended a Mozilla Technology demonstration of the following version:  E Mozilla/5.0 (X11; U; OpenVMS 0 Compaq_AlphaServer_ES40; en-US; 0.8.1)-$ Gecko/20010321, (build 200103022112)  1 I had the following output (OpenVMS 7.2-1 Alpha):p   ISLKP2_dmo> mozo Starting mozilla-bin...]! ProfileManager : CreateNewProfile; Profile Name: defaulte, Profile Dir: /sys$sysdevice/morandi/.mozilla. Registering plugin 0 for: "*","All types",".*". Registering plugin 0 for: "*","All types",".*" JavaScript error: C chrome://communicator/content/bookmarks/bookmarksTree.js line 405: D/ gSelectionTracker.currentItem has no properties] JavaScript error:HC chrome://communicator/content/bookmarks/bookmarksTree.js line 405: 0/ gSelectionTracker.currentItem has no propertiesk  6 Error loading URL http://www.pachacamac.com/: 804b0002* Warning prev sibling is not in our list!!!% Runtime mismatch, so leaking context!V ISLKP2_dmo>3  O and I did not succeed to access the requested site. I double checked the proxy,r7 it seems correct. Moz complains about "site not found".    Any idea someone?e  
 Thank you.   D.   ------------------------------  % Date: Fri, 20 Apr 2001 09:04:29 +0200 ! From: Didier Morandi <DMo@ims.ch>H5 Subject: [Q] X Toolkit Warning: Cannot convert stringp& Message-ID: <3ADFDF7D.CD6A15F7@ims.ch>  6 I'm starting to use X windows (better late than never)& I often get this kind of error message  P X Toolkit Warning: Cannot convert string "-*-Menu-Medium-R-Normal--*-120-*-*-P-* -ISO8859-1" to type FontStruct  N when I start Netscape from VMS from an X-windows emulator from my PC (or Mac)." I suppose I need some extra fonts.   How can I know which ones? Where can I find them? How should I install them?   OpenVMS Alpha 7.2-1    Thanks,e D.   ------------------------------   End of INFO-VAX 2001.221 ************************ that you read these release notes.      C     For the most up-to-date documentation, including release notes,nH     Frequently Asked Questions (FAQs), and information about configuringH     and running Apache on OpenVMS, please see the Apache for OpenVMS web     pages at     I     http://www.openvms.compaq.com/openvms/products/ips/apache/apache.htmlH     @     Post-installation tasks are required for Apache for OpenJsϢ047bN̓gU1=~{0W
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