1 INFO-VAX	Sat, 21 Apr 2001	Volume 2001 : Issue 222       Contents:' Re: - OpenVMS ever to be on Intel chip? , Re: 1GHz Alpha EV68CB Microprocessor Exposed, Re: 1GHz Alpha EV68CB Microprocessor Exposed, Re: Re: C++ RTL pb at AST level execution...B Computer Museum History Center announces DECWORLD 2001 (6/16/2001) DCPS and JetDirect cards...   Re: DEC Server software question, Re: Error compressing large files on OpenVMS for sale memory DS20E  Free Live..." Re: FreeVMS for AMD a pipe dream ?- Ghostscript V7.00 now available as a PCSI kit . IBM MQ V2.2 stops after VMS721_RMS-V0100 patch) Re: Management Musical Chairs in the BCSG / RE: OpenVMS article - please explain last line! / Re: OpenVMS article - please explain last line! ! Re: Outstanding News for OpenVMS! ! Re: Outstanding News for OpenVMS! ! Re: Outstanding News for OpenVMS! ! Re: Outstanding News for OpenVMS! . R.I.P. FTP.WKU.EDU.  Long live FTP.PROCESS.COM! VMS Loyalist dies from starvation % Re: VMS Loyalist dies from starvation % RE: VMS Loyalist dies from starvation 2 Re: [BUG] wrong APACHE file location after install3 Re: [Q] Making Perl work with CSWS - Solution found   F ----------------------------------------------------------------------    Date: 21 Apr 2001 01:05:31 +0800, From: Paul Repacholi <prep@prep.synonet.com>0 Subject: Re: - OpenVMS ever to be on Intel chip?- Message-ID: <87u23jmrhg.fsf@prep.synonet.com>   ( That's OK hunter, I assumed the oposite.  8 So as the old saw goes, 'what answer would you like?' :)   --  < Paul Repacholi                               1 Crescent Rd.,7 +61 (08) 9257-1001                           Kalamunda. @                                              West Australia 6076. Raw, Cooked or Well-done, it's all half baked.   ------------------------------    Date: 21 Apr 2001 03:26:19 +0800, From: Paul Repacholi <prep@prep.synonet.com>5 Subject: Re: 1GHz Alpha EV68CB Microprocessor Exposed - Message-ID: <87d7a7mkys.fsf@prep.synonet.com>   # Shane.F.Smith@Healthnet.com writes:   D > If AMD are really doing this, it would allow them to generate moreC > heat in the chip, and dissipate it quick enough to avoid damaging D > the chip. The fact that they filed the patent makes me wonder what: > Intel can do to keep up - licence the idea from AMD? :-)  1 The US patent system is going insane... or worse.   D Peltier cooled devices has been in use for over 20 years. The HubbleC was due to fly in 83, remember, and the WFPC had Peltier cooling of E the CCDs and preamps then. So the design would have been at least 3-4  years before that.  B I can't remember how long Peltier fridges have been available over here. Best part of 30 years.   --  < Paul Repacholi                               1 Crescent Rd.,7 +61 (08) 9257-1001                           Kalamunda. @                                              West Australia 6076. Raw, Cooked or Well-done, it's all half baked.   ------------------------------  % Date: Fri, 20 Apr 2001 14:54:16 -0700 ! From: Shane.F.Smith@Healthnet.com 5 Subject: Re: 1GHz Alpha EV68CB Microprocessor Exposed D Message-ID: <OF4531F720.EB1213EF-ON88256A34.00783378@foundation.com>  K To be fair, peltiers were not mentioned by name. If it really is a peltier, F the patent is probably for the way they are being combined in the chipG package. For example, you couldn't patent a knife, but you can patent a 6 design for a cutting device that incorporates a blade.   Shane           E Paul Repacholi <prep@prep.synonet.com>@k9.healthnet.com on 04/20/2001  12:26:19 PM   8 Please respond to Paul Repacholi <prep@prep.synonet.com>   Sent by:  prep@k9.healthnet.com      To:   Info-VAX@Mvb.Saic.Com  cc:   6 Subject:  Re: 1GHz Alpha EV68CB Microprocessor Exposed    # Shane.F.Smith@Healthnet.com writes:   D > If AMD are really doing this, it would allow them to generate moreC > heat in the chip, and dissipate it quick enough to avoid damaging D > the chip. The fact that they filed the patent makes me wonder what: > Intel can do to keep up - licence the idea from AMD? :-)  1 The US patent system is going insane... or worse.   D Peltier cooled devices has been in use for over 20 years. The HubbleC was due to fly in 83, remember, and the WFPC had Peltier cooling of E the CCDs and preamps then. So the design would have been at least 3-4  years before that.  B I can't remember how long Peltier fridges have been available over here. Best part of 30 years.   --< Paul Repacholi                               1 Crescent Rd.,7 +61 (08) 9257-1001                           Kalamunda. @                                              West Australia 6076. Raw, Cooked or Well-done, it's all half baked.   ------------------------------   Date: 20 Apr 2001 22:13:31 GMT' From: dashw459@aol.comeatspam (Doug W.) 5 Subject: Re: Re: C++ RTL pb at AST level execution... : Message-ID: <20010420181331.00716.00000361@ng-fc1.aol.com>  / Dan Sugalski   &  Hurez-Martin, Olivier  wrote:         M << >That thing works just fine for anywhere from a few thousands to 100's of  
 >thousandsL >iterations. Then it gets stuck on that funny LNM$AQ_MUTEX - The funny part  >is thatG >it hangs on that event flag, ** whether the trace is on or off ** ! >>      <<  K Probably the first problem (and it certainly has the easiest fix... :) but  J it'd be worth poking around in SDA or with the Visual Threads tool (which 6 is rather neat) to see if something odd's going on. >>  N Finally some threads news.  I have problems with CEFs under the 7.3 beta usingO multiple CPUs for a threaded process.  I can always  get out of a CEF wait, but H sooner or later I lose the ability to signal other threads via a CV.  ToL produce bullet proof code I either avoid the CEF altogether by spinning on aK global variable.  This consumes 100% CPU.  OR use some complicated logic to K avoid going into a CEF until all other threads in the process are blocked.  C This always works but its a nuisance and leads to poor performance.   J Performance has been a hair pulling problem.  I think my threads and otherN nonthreaded processes are stepping on each other schedule wise.  Extensions toH control where a thead may run are not available on VMS.  I have tried toN isolate threaded processes from nonthreaded processes using process affinity. K So far no luck.  After setting affinity to a single CPU my threaded process M still uses more than 100% CPU.  Has anyone got affinity to work with threads?   L CTRL-Ys have been a problem.  Yeah I know they are illegal with threads.  AnN occasional threads dump I can live with.  But sometimes I experience a loss ofO power.  I am sitting at the DCL prompt and can do anything.  But the process is M in an unwavering HIB state consuming 100% CPU.  Looks like an orphaned thread 5 spinning.  Wierd, even if the manual says no CTRL-Ys.   F Has anyone experienced similar problems.  I'm Hungry for threads news!   ------------------------------    Date: 20 Apr 2001 17:13:40 -0800' From: eugene@cse.ucsc.edu (Eugene Miya) K Subject: Computer Museum History Center announces DECWORLD 2001 (6/16/2001) & Message-ID: <3ae0d0b4$1@news.ucsc.edu>  & This post forwarded.  --c.p. moderator    + The Computer Museum History Center presents 
 DECWORLD 2001  "What Made Digital Great"    DATE: Saturday, June 16, 2001  TIME: 9:30am - 10:00pm) PLACE: The Computer Museum History Center - Moffett Field, Mountain View, California, USA    DONATION: $125 per person 0 (to cover the cost of lunch, dinner, and snacks)  ? Space is limited to 300 people, the capacity of the Auditorium. B RSVP/Advance Registration REQUIRED due to NASA badging regulations  + For more information and to register, visit ) www.computerhistory.org/decworld or email  decworld@computerhistory.org.   # The purposes of the Conference are:  a) to have fun0 b) to bring together people who took part in the7 rise of Digital Equipment Corporation who will hear and 8 contribute stories that will become part of the Museum's- permanent archive of the history of computing I c) to share Digital's greatness with non-Digital people who would like to O understand the unique social phenomenon that was Digital Equipment Corporation.   ; Leading the panel sessions will be Digital alumni including @ Gordon Bell, Barry Cioffi, Dick Clayton, Jake Jacobs, Ed Kramer,> Richie Lary, Grant Saviers, Pat Mullen, Jack Smith, Bud Hyler,F Bob Supnik and YOU (see the website for an updated list of panelists).   TENTATIVE SCHEDULE   Friday, June 15 2 - Evening informal gathering at the Marriott Hotel   Saturday, June 16 ; 8:30am - Continental breakfast at NASA Ames Main Auditorium 6 9:30am - 5:15pm - Conference, Show-and-Tell, and lunch= Three audience-interactive panel presentations will cover the C Digital story from 1957 to 1992. "Birds of a Feather" sessions will A be held, artifacts and memorabilia will be on display, and roving 5 recorders will invite alumni to record their stories.   " 5:15pm - 6:30pm - Museum Reception  I 7:30pm -10pm - Banquet at Marriott & keynotes by Ed Schein and Win Hindle   > All attendees will be encouraged to share recollections duringA panel discussions and breaks, and will be offered the opportunity J to contribute to Museum archives through interviews with roving recorders.   THE PANEL SESSIONS  K - DEC organization: From start-up to the birth of product lines (1957-1969) 0 Technology era: Transistor modules to the PDP-10/ Customers: researchers, universities, & hackers   ; - DEC organization: Product lines in full force (1970-1980) F Technology era: Integrated circuit PDP8i and PDP-11 through VAX 11/7809 Customers: Engineering, manufacturing, & creation of ISVs   - - DEC organization: Taking on IBM (1980-1992) : Technology era: LSI, VLSI, VAX and MicroVAX systems, Alpha Customers: Fortune 1000    INVITATION TO CONTRIBUTE   1) Show-and-Tell9 Attendees are invited to display personal DEC memorabilia < during lunch. To make arrangements for display space, please# e-mail decworld@computerhistory.org   + 2) Tell Your Story and Picture Presentation ? If you have images of DEC memorabilia, staff photos, artifacts, ; favorite quotes relating to DEC, etc., your material may be = included in an evening slide show. Each image must be sent in > advance of the conference. Attendees are also invited to share< their DEC-related stories. Please send your story or inquire3 about contributing at decworld@computerhistory.org.    3) DEC Item Donations < As the holder of the largest collection of computing-related> artifacts, The Computer Museum History Center seeks additional@ material to support its exceptional DEC collection. If you would= like to participate in this donation opportunity, please make # arrangements in advance by emailing ; decworld@computerhistory.org. The Museum will be announcing , new DEC- related donations at DECWORLD 2001.   4) Volunteer and Event Support@ Prior to the conference, the Museum is looking for volunteers toL assist in various planning capacities. If you have time and skill to donate,P please contact Lou Greer at +1 408 266 6674 or Karen Mathews at +1 650 604 2568.  . For more information and to register, contact:  
 DECWORLD 2001 " The Computer Museum History Center Building T12-A Moffett Field, CA 94035, USA +1 650 604 2579  decworld@computerhistory.org  www.computerhistory.org/decworld   ------------------------------    Date: 20 Apr 2001 14:46:55 -05007 From: hamilton@encompasserve.org (Bradford J. Hamilton) $ Subject: DCPS and JetDirect cards...3 Message-ID: <siJdIcqhjmL$@eisner.encompasserve.org>    Hi,   F I'm new to DCPS, and I am a little confused by the following paragraph in the system manager's doc:  j >To communicate with your printer using raw TCP/IP, the NIC, print server, or terminal server that you usej >to connect your printer to the network must provide a raw TCP/IP port. Further, this raw TCP/IP port must` >support bi-directional communication between the printer and your OpenVMS system. DCPS does noti >work with unidirectional ports, such as those found on the NICs for the DEClaser 3500 and 5100 printers, l >the RapidPrint 200, and Hewlett-Packard JetDirect cards that interface with the printer via its XIO (versus >MIO) slot.    Does this mean:   5 JetDirect cards that use the MIO slot work with DCPS?   H JetDirect cards are bi-directional by default, if they use the MIO slot?   Thanks,  Brad   ------------------------------  % Date: Fri, 20 Apr 2001 21:40:13 +0200 4 From: "Andrea Wolf" <wolf.andrea@planet-interkom.de>) Subject: Re: DEC Server software question 3 Message-ID: <HeFvrHdyAHA.273@fnews1.vi-internet.de>    Try www.dnpg.com !/ They now sell the old Digital network products.   1 "Dirk Munk" <munk@home.nl> schrieb im Newsbeitrag ! news:3ACF797C.56AD7508@home.nl... H > This software used to be on the VMS software library CD's, but I can't check  > that now I'm afraid.L > Anyway, your vendor is responsible for a complete package of course. So if the G > most recent software is not on VMS CD's, he has to supply it I guess.  >  > Patrick Massey wrote:  > 
 > > Hello,L > > I've recently installed a DS900TM and found that only the first 16 of 32I > > ports work.  The software it's loading WWENG2 ver 1.1a makes it think  it's aI > > DS700.  I really need to get the other 16 ports working.  Does anyone  knowH > > where I can find an updated loadfile?  I've contacted Compaq and the vendor< > > I ordered the part from, neither have been very helpful. > > Thanks in advance. > >  > > -Pat Massey  >    ------------------------------  % Date: Fri, 20 Apr 2001 17:40:58 -0500 1 From: "David J. Dachtera" <djesys.nospam@fsi.net> 5 Subject: Re: Error compressing large files on OpenVMS ' Message-ID: <3AE0BAFA.FBE8B1DB@fsi.net>   ( ZINSER@sysdev.deutsche-boerse.com wrote: >  > Hello! > N >         We've uncovered a problem compressing large files (> 2GB) on OpenVMS >         with ZIP.   / Gee! I thought that had been fixed! Oh, well...   - ...and no, I don't know what the fix entails.    --   David J. Dachtera  dba DJE Systems  http://www.djesys.com/  : Unofficial Affordable OpenVMS Home Page and Message Board: http://www.djesys.com/vms/soho/   F This *IS* an OpenVMS-related newsgroup. So, a certain bias in postings is to be expected.  @ Feel free to exercise your rights of free speech and expression.  F However, attacks against individual posters, or groups of posters, are strongly discouraged.    ------------------------------  # Date: Fri, 20 Apr 2001 17:59:56 GMT  From: "Cor" <jc.smit@home.nl>  Subject: for sale memory DS20E3 Message-ID: <wO_D6.21097$Uo2.461709@zwoll1.home.nl>   	 For Sale:   * - MS340-DA  DS20 512 Mb Memory Option New!   500 Euro   ------------------------------  + Date: Fri, 20 Apr 2001 19:17:44 +0000 (UTC)  From: gris@aport.ru  Subject: Free Live... * Message-ID: <9bq20n$1oul$633@serv2.vsi.ru>  `Are you looking for a little spice in your sex life? Adult Friend Finder can help! We're the largest adult personals and swingers directory with over 7,000,000 registered members with thousands of sexy photos! It's FREE, easy, and anonymous to join! Every day, over 15,000 new people join Adult Friend Finder so you'll always find new hot friends here!5 Click here... http://adultfriendfinder.com/go/p39467c    ------------------------------  % Date: Fri, 20 Apr 2001 17:30:17 -0500 1 From: "David J. Dachtera" <djesys.nospam@fsi.net> + Subject: Re: FreeVMS for AMD a pipe dream ? ' Message-ID: <3AE0B879.567B2131@fsi.net>    Paul Repacholi wrote:  > [snip]C > Oh yes... Go get the original Alpha papers, the ones on Alpha and ; > Beta.  Read and grok the comments on the intel chipset...    ...and the URL is ... ???    --   David J. Dachtera  dba DJE Systems  http://www.djesys.com/  : Unofficial Affordable OpenVMS Home Page and Message Board: http://www.djesys.com/vms/soho/   F This *IS* an OpenVMS-related newsgroup. So, a certain bias in postings is to be expected.  @ Feel free to exercise your rights of free speech and expression.  F However, attacks against individual posters, or groups of posters, are strongly discouraged.    ------------------------------  % Date: Fri, 20 Apr 2001 14:47:47 -0700 0 From: Mark Berryman <Mark.Berryman@Mvb.Saic.Com>6 Subject: Ghostscript V7.00 now available as a PCSI kit, Message-ID: <3AE04C13.53C316CF@Mvb.Saic.Com>  E For anyone who would like a copy, I've made a PCSI-installable kit of:G the new ghostscript V7.00 release for both VAX and Alpha.  You can findo) the compressed, self-extracting files at:p  P ftp://mvb.saic.com/pcsi_kits/ghostscript-v0700/ghostscript-v0700.pcsi_sfx_axpexe   or  P ftp://mvb.saic.com/pcsi_kits/ghostscript-v0700/ghostscript-v0700.pcsi_sfx_vaxexe  # for the Alpha or VAX, respectively.s  
 Mark Berrymann   ------------------------------    Date: 20 Apr 2001 15:03:30 -0500+ From: kuhrt@encompasserve.org (Marty Kuhrt) 7 Subject: IBM MQ V2.2 stops after VMS721_RMS-V0100 patchp3 Message-ID: <SGvsoS+UNykD@eisner.encompasserve.org>   9 A word of warning for IBM MQSeries users on V7.2-1 beforei installing the RMS patch.i  = After installing the VMS721_RMS-V0100 patch on my AlphaServerr? 1200 running V7.2-1 of VMS, IBM MQ Series V2.2 software stoppede< working properly.  The logs show accvios where none occurred@ before.   After backing the patch out, the MQ software went backA to working properly.  IBM wants $5K for a support contract beforen> they'll even acknowledge the problem, more or less do anything	 about it.S   ------------------------------   Date: 20 Apr 2001 20:38:30 GMT2 From: mathog@seqaxp.bio.caltech.edu (David Mathog)2 Subject: Re: Management Musical Chairs in the BCSG, Message-ID: <9bq6o6$jl5@gap.cco.caltech.edu>  t In article <Pine.SGI.4.21.0104200940350.14439-100000@world.std.com>, Terry C Shannon <shannon@world.std.com> writes: >wJ >There have been some changes on CPQ's BCSG org chart. The changes involveK >the realignment and focusing of the Alpha-centric High Performance SystemsnI >business. At first glance these changes appear to be positive for Alpha,, >OpenVMS, and Tru64 UNIX users.l  I Hard to say.  The problem as I see it is this is yet another bash (about 0F the 10th, going back through Digital's yearly reorg pattern) at fixingJ internal problems, with insufficient focus on the problems the company hasF with the outside world.  Ie, with the price of its products, customer 4 relations, retaining software on its platforms, etc.   >hG >I expect that Mike Magee will have some details on www.theinquirer.nett
 >later today.d  *    http://www.theinquirer.org/20040106.htm   Regards,   David Mathog mathog@caltech.edu? Manager, sequence analysis facility, biology division, Caltech oJ **************************************************************************J *                                RIP VMS                                 *J **************************************************************************   ------------------------------    Date: 20 Apr 2001 14:49:29 -05009 From: Kilgallen@eisner.decus.org.nospam (Larry Kilgallen) 8 Subject: RE: OpenVMS article - please explain last line!3 Message-ID: <Tyucq$TWqliF@eisner.encompasserve.org>   a In article <9bpsti$e6j@gap.cco.caltech.edu>, mathog@seqaxp.bio.caltech.edu (David Mathog) writes:- > In article <DC4745D1A85CA04180C83CDC706A9D180D9538@cthexc02.americas.cpqcorp.net>, "Main, Kerry" <Kerry.Main@compaq.com> writes: >>I >>Again, the current low end Alpha DS20 systems use a 5.2Gb/sec cross bar8F >>switch technology. No one thinks of the DS20 as a "highest end Alpha
 >>system". > M > But it's very important to realize exactly what that means. When I ran the pK > "mybenchmark" programs on a DS20 they came out exactly like they did on aeI > DS10.  That confused me until somebody pointed out that the faster dataaK > rate was from BOTH processors to memory - you only see it if your program9H > is running on both processors (multithreaded) or if you're running twoM > programs at once.  Any single threaded program "sees" a DS20 pretty much as  > if it was just a DS10. p  D Certainly one should not choose a multiprocessor for a single-streamA workload.   The extra baggage for cache consistency can only slowi
 things down !   N ==============================================================================N Great Inventors of our time: Al Gore -> Internet; Sun Microsystems -> ClustersN ==============================================================================   ------------------------------    Date: 21 Apr 2001 03:20:28 +0800, From: Paul Repacholi <prep@prep.synonet.com>8 Subject: Re: OpenVMS article - please explain last line!- Message-ID: <87hezjml8j.fsf@prep.synonet.com>   2 andrew harrison <andrew.nospam@uk.sun.com> writes:  E > "Main, Kerry" wrote: As is making claims for existing systems which = > are not supported by the data you youselves have published.    OK Kerry, naughty boy! Smak.  F You should know that it is only aceptable to enrich the mental gardens> of you poor punters by spreading infomation based on NDA data.  A You are condemed to stand in the corner for 3ms or the next cachea error, which ever comes first.   -- R< Paul Repacholi                               1 Crescent Rd.,7 +61 (08) 9257-1001                           Kalamunda.-@                                              West Australia 6076. Raw, Cooked or Well-done, it's all half baked.   ------------------------------  % Date: Fri, 20 Apr 2001 16:07:22 -0300e) From: fabio_compaq@ep-bc.petrobras.com.brv* Subject: Re: Outstanding News for OpenVMS!L Message-ID: <OF0F4937C2.FD343095-ON03256A34.0068F6A1@ep-bc.petrobras.com.br>  B If there is any kind of hope for OpenVMS .... God  bless Him ! ! !   Regards    FC        > Tim Llewellyn <tim.llewellyn@bbc.co.uk> em 20/04/2001 13:12:03  9 Favor responder a Tim Llewellyn <tim.llewellyn@bbc.co.uk>              Info-VAX@Mvb.Saic.Come      * Assunto: Re: Outstanding News for OpenVMS!         Rob Young wrote:  + >         Congratulations to Rich Marcello!C > ) > http://www.theinquirer.net/20040106.htmd >eH > "As a result of the latest changes, the Business Critical Server Group becomes J > the Business Critical SOLUTIONS Group. OpenVMS Group VP Rich Marcello is now F > the VP and General Manager of the High Performance Systems Division, whichpB > means Alpha platforms and engineering, Tru64 UNIX, and OpenVMS." >y> >         This is truly outstanding news as far as a long-term >         VMS fan is concerned!o  > absolutely! The good news for VMS and Alpha just keeps coming.   --6 Tim Llewellyn, OpenVMS Infrastructure, Remarcs Project0 MedAS at the BBC, Whiteladies Road, Bristol, UK.A Email tim.llewellyn@bbc.co.uk. Home tim.llewellyn@cableinet.co.ukm  A I speak for myself only and my views in no way represent those of  MedAS or the BBC.    ------------------------------  % Date: Fri, 20 Apr 2001 14:26:05 -0500s1 From: "Dave Gudewicz" <david.gudewicz@abbott.com>a* Subject: Re: Outstanding News for OpenVMS!8 Message-ID: <9bq2gk$3pf$1@fizban.fizban.pprd.abbott.com>  L The winds have changed again.  Seems like from a more favorable direction as> far as this group is concerned, but as always, time will tell.  @ I for one am encouraged by this news and wish Rich all the best.   Dave...-  8 "Rob Young" <young_r@encompasserve.org> wrote in message- news:NxnKLFiPC26T@eisner.encompasserve.org...u >m# > Congratulations to Rich Marcello!0 >6) > http://www.theinquirer.net/20040106.htms >dH > "As a result of the latest changes, the Business Critical Server Group becomesrJ > the Business Critical SOLUTIONS Group. OpenVMS Group VP Rich Marcello is now,L > the VP and General Manager of the High Performance Systems Division, whichB > means Alpha platforms and engineering, Tru64 UNIX, and OpenVMS." >o6 > This is truly outstanding news as far as a long-term > VMS fan is concerned!e >e >h   ------------------------------    Date: 21 Apr 2001 05:28:25 +0800, From: Paul Repacholi <prep@prep.synonet.com>* Subject: Re: Outstanding News for OpenVMS!- Message-ID: <87lmovl0qu.fsf@prep.synonet.com>e  3 "Dave Gudewicz" <david.gudewicz@abbott.com> writes:   A > The winds have changed again.  Seems like from a more favorableeB > direction as far as this group is concerned, but as always, time > will tell.  B > I for one am encouraged by this news and wish Rich all the best.  F Ditto. It has taken too long to turn the ship, but this is a good signD IMO that MC still is trying to turn it arround vis a vis VMS, and isC able to get some of the problems out of the way. Lets all hope thatuE the tightning situation does not prevoke a mindless slash and burn ofd the future.h  E If the Q does have a new LCA under wraps, finding FAB capacity is notd real hard at the moment.   -- t< Paul Repacholi                               1 Crescent Rd.,7 +61 (08) 9257-1001                           Kalamunda. @                                              West Australia 6076. Raw, Cooked or Well-done, it's all half baked.   ------------------------------  # Date: Sat, 21 Apr 2001 04:50:25 GMTl- From: Terry C Shannon <shannon@world.std.com>"* Subject: Re: Outstanding News for OpenVMS!D Message-ID: <Pine.SGI.4.21.0104210046160.24920-100000@world.std.com>  > On Fri, 20 Apr 2001 fabio_compaq@ep-bc.petrobras.com.br wrote:  D > If there is any kind of hope for OpenVMS .... God  bless Him ! ! ! >   I The customers who attended the DFWDAYS event that concluded earlier today D seemed quite favorably impressed with the development. DFWDAYS was aG decent get-together, once again Sue Skonetski did a superb job bringingoB OpenVMS engineering resources to the LUG event. And per usual, sheI connected well with the customers. A shame there aren't a dozen more likes0 her in the marketing and customer contact ranks!   ------------------------------  # Date: Sat, 21 Apr 2001 02:49:32 GMT9- From: goathunter@goatley.com (Hunter Goatley)a7 Subject: R.I.P. FTP.WKU.EDU.  Long live FTP.PROCESS.COMu0 Message-ID: <3ae0f299.37241250@swen.process.com>  > After more than 10 years of serving the OpenVMS community, the> powers-that-be at Western Kentucky University are on a mission< to eradicate VMS from the campus.  (I'm not surprised---they3 were trying to do that before I left there in '95.)k  < Effective immediately, the FTP.WKU.EDU VMS freeware archives6 no longer reside on FTP.WKU.EDU.   R.I.P. FTP.WKU.EDU.  ? The good news is that, thanks to Process Software, the archivesc8 live on.  The new URLs for the primary interfaces to the former WKU archives are:   http://www.process.com/openvms/b   andi  # ftp://ftp.process.com/vms-freeware/s  : Most of the WKU mirrors have been updated already to refer; to the new home for the archives.  The main URL will alwaysm; have valid pointers to the current mirrors.  There may be af= couple of hiccups in the transfer; if you find something odd,m please drop me a line.   Thanks.d   Hunter ------9 Hunter Goatley, Process Software, http://www.process.com/i9 goathunter@goatley.com     http://www.goatley.com/hunter/    ------------------------------  # Date: Fri, 20 Apr 2001 20:50:41 GMT * From: "Dirk Lockard" <r.d.lockard@att.net>* Subject: VMS Loyalist dies from starvationH Message-ID: <Bi1E6.28223$RF1.2328448@bgtnsc06-news.ops.worldnet.att.net>  9 In 1984, I established the first VMS Cluster in Louisianae9 for a nuclear power plant.  This was my first exposure to4: DIGITAL systems, as I had spent the prior 10 years working4 with IBM and NCR systems.  It was such a pleasurable; experience, I dedicated all my energies to the VMS platformt: and satisfying clients throughout the South-Central region7 of the US.  I lost quite a few clients in 1999, as many-: application vendors did not pursue Y2K enhancements on VMS9 and migrated their clients to LANs.  I lost a few more inj; 2000, due to mergers and acquisitions of mega-corp X and Y.i; I did make a lot of money during the Y2K wars, as there was 6 quite a bit to do with old application code in the VMS: world.   I did get a few upgrades to ALPHA.  Those systems5 are running so good now that I never hear of problems 6 (translated into opportunities) where my assistance is9 needed.  I think everybody blew their budgets doing this. < So far, the only significant piece of work done this year is; an upgrade of a MicroVAX 3100 model 10 to a Model 90.  Thatt took about a day.s  < It didn't help that I was divorced about 5 years ago (that's7 where the money went) and became a single parent of twor7 school aged kids.  Of course, I'm glad they're with me.M: But, it makes it tough to take on assignments away from my6 home base of Baton Rouge.  I keep coming to this list,3 looking for encouragement. But, nothing seems to beh7 happening in my neighborhood to get excited about.  Ther8 large DIGITAL office closed here a few years ago and the: distributor that filled the void seemed only eager to push9 WINTEL boxes.  The Q obviously agreed.   So, a few months.9 ago, I decided to seek opportunities for employment, evene< though I have been most happy as sole proprietor/independant consultant.s  < It's terribly hard to impress a headhunter, as I do not have< a college degree and NONE of my previous employers exist any7 more.  Most of them have no clue as to what I'm talkingm5 about, anyway.  It's been 12 years since I've been ont: someone else's payroll.  In that time, I've made my living4 providing services to DIGITAL, it's distributors and7 customers utilizing OpenVMS platforms.  We all know, if6< there isn't something new going on, when put together right,7 these systems require little attention and just keep ono8 running.  In the business of providing solutions, I'm in need of a problem.  : To keep this subject heading from becoming an epitaph, I'm8 asking anyone here for suggestions, leads or encouraging< words.  Until now, I've never gone more than 10 days without: work in my life (including vacations, whatever those are).6 Private inquiries are welcome.  But, encouraging words< should be shared, as I don't think I'm alone.  Thanks to all3 for putting up with my moaning and apologies to any.	 offended.e   Robert Dirk Lockarde r.d.lockard@att.nete   ------------------------------  % Date: Fri, 20 Apr 2001 15:56:06 -0500 1 From: "Dave Gudewicz" <david.gudewicz@abbott.com> . Subject: Re: VMS Loyalist dies from starvation8 Message-ID: <9bq7pd$4go$1@fizban.fizban.pprd.abbott.com>  K Have you tried looking at:  http://www.openvms.compaq.com/portal/index.htmlg  5 There's a job section towards the bottom of the page.n  
 Good luck,   Dave...p  5 "Dirk Lockard" <r.d.lockard@att.net> wrote in messageeB news:Bi1E6.28223$RF1.2328448@bgtnsc06-news.ops.worldnet.att.net...; > In 1984, I established the first VMS Cluster in Louisianar; > for a nuclear power plant.  This was my first exposure to-< > DIGITAL systems, as I had spent the prior 10 years working6 > with IBM and NCR systems.  It was such a pleasurable= > experience, I dedicated all my energies to the VMS platformS< > and satisfying clients throughout the South-Central region9 > of the US.  I lost quite a few clients in 1999, as many0< > application vendors did not pursue Y2K enhancements on VMS; > and migrated their clients to LANs.  I lost a few more in = > 2000, due to mergers and acquisitions of mega-corp X and Y.W= > I did make a lot of money during the Y2K wars, as there wase8 > quite a bit to do with old application code in the VMS< > world.   I did get a few upgrades to ALPHA.  Those systems7 > are running so good now that I never hear of problems 8 > (translated into opportunities) where my assistance is; > needed.  I think everybody blew their budgets doing this. > > So far, the only significant piece of work done this year is= > an upgrade of a MicroVAX 3100 model 10 to a Model 90.  That  > took about a day.  >E> > It didn't help that I was divorced about 5 years ago (that's9 > where the money went) and became a single parent of twoh9 > school aged kids.  Of course, I'm glad they're with me.i< > But, it makes it tough to take on assignments away from my8 > home base of Baton Rouge.  I keep coming to this list,5 > looking for encouragement. But, nothing seems to bep9 > happening in my neighborhood to get excited about.  Thed: > large DIGITAL office closed here a few years ago and the< > distributor that filled the void seemed only eager to push; > WINTEL boxes.  The Q obviously agreed.   So, a few monthsr; > ago, I decided to seek opportunities for employment, even-> > though I have been most happy as sole proprietor/independant
 > consultant.  >r> > It's terribly hard to impress a headhunter, as I do not have> > a college degree and NONE of my previous employers exist any9 > more.  Most of them have no clue as to what I'm talkingl7 > about, anyway.  It's been 12 years since I've been onV< > someone else's payroll.  In that time, I've made my living6 > providing services to DIGITAL, it's distributors and9 > customers utilizing OpenVMS platforms.  We all know, ifa> > there isn't something new going on, when put together right,9 > these systems require little attention and just keep ona: > running.  In the business of providing solutions, I'm in > need of a problem. >@< > To keep this subject heading from becoming an epitaph, I'm: > asking anyone here for suggestions, leads or encouraging> > words.  Until now, I've never gone more than 10 days without< > work in my life (including vacations, whatever those are).8 > Private inquiries are welcome.  But, encouraging words> > should be shared, as I don't think I'm alone.  Thanks to all5 > for putting up with my moaning and apologies to anyr > offended.  >e > Robert Dirk Lockard, > r.d.lockard@att.neta >  >w >i >p >e >. >B >a >  >    ------------------------------  % Date: Fri, 20 Apr 2001 16:24:02 -0500o+ From: Christopher Smith <csmith@amdocs.com>-. Subject: RE: VMS Loyalist dies from starvationL Message-ID: <3B55D7F383B0D31197D9009027541CBF0D9D1D8D@cmiexch1.cmi.itds.com>   > -----Original Message-----1 > From: Dirk Lockard [mailto:r.d.lockard@att.net]a  : > large DIGITAL office closed here a few years ago and the< > distributor that filled the void seemed only eager to push; > WINTEL boxes.  The Q obviously agreed.   So, a few monthsi; > ago, I decided to seek opportunities for employment, eveng> > though I have been most happy as sole proprietor/independant
 > consultant.o  K If you think they're selling micro$oft products into roles where VMS shouldeG be offered, why not talk to Compaq about that? (I don't know whether tot& expect a response, but there is hope.)  G Otherwise, have you thought about taking on some more diverse projects?mG Personally, I like working with VMS, too, but at least for me, it's notsJ feasible to make a job out of it right now. (That could change in the next# few years, I think, but for now...)i  > > It's terribly hard to impress a headhunter, as I do not have> > a college degree and NONE of my previous employers exist any9 > more.  Most of them have no clue as to what I'm talkingo7 > about, anyway.  It's been 12 years since I've been on*< > someone else's payroll.  In that time, I've made my living6 > providing services to DIGITAL, it's distributors and  H Well, how do they react when you tell them about contracting experience?K You can spin that as a plus, perhaps.  Lots of companies would love to haveiK someone with experience in such a diverse set of conditions.  It might helpsI if you could come up with some names of clients, descriptions of projects ? (as confidentiality allows) etc -- a portfolio of sorts, maybe.c  < > To keep this subject heading from becoming an epitaph, I'm: > asking anyone here for suggestions, leads or encouraging> > words.  Until now, I've never gone more than 10 days without< > work in my life (including vacations, whatever those are).8 > Private inquiries are welcome.  But, encouraging words> > should be shared, as I don't think I'm alone.  Thanks to all5 > for putting up with my moaning and apologies to anya > offended.o  J I don't have any leads, especially since I don't know much about the area.  K If you find that you're close to an Amdocs office, I'm sure we're hiring atrJ the moment -- well, pretty sure.  I can't be impartial in this, of course,H but I'm very happy with the company, myself.  It's even been pointed outF that somewhere in the company, there is some support for VMS -- though2 internally, I haven't been able to find it yet. :)   Regards,   Christ  ! Christopher Smith, Perl Developero Amdocs - Champaign, IL   /usr/bin/perl -e '? print((~"\x95\xc4\xe3"^"Just Another Perl Hacker.")."\x08!\n");= '=   ------------------------------  % Date: Sat, 21 Apr 2001 07:51:26 +0200r! From: Didier Morandi <DMo@ims.ch>=; Subject: Re: [BUG] wrong APACHE file location after install=& Message-ID: <3AE11FDE.FB15920D@ims.ch>  P Yes, There is, Dave. I didn't know before about Apache being free, and I learnedO it in here. And I have never heard of "Compaq Secure Web Server". With it, will@ I have the Apache plume too?   :-)    D.   David Beatty wrote:i > B > Didier, is there any reason you are running Apache (which is the> > Beta version) rather that Compaq Secure Web Server (which is? > the production version)?  You can download the production kit  > atF > http://www.openvms.compaq.com/openvms/products/ips/apache/csws.html.   ------------------------------  # Date: Fri, 20 Apr 2001 19:53:33 GMTe' From: "Mr. Generic" <someone@microsoft>h< Subject: Re: [Q] Making Perl work with CSWS - Solution foundD Message-ID: <1t0E6.1587$J74.191894@newsread1.prod.itd.earthlink.net>   Thanks to all who replied.  I In reviewing the mod_perl installation guide, I discovered a reference to I "/perl/perl_rules.pl". That bit of Perl works, and when I moved my sample ? code to that location (not /cgi-bin, but /perl) it also worked!   L I have also found the mod_perl guide at perl.apache.org, which is helping toJ explain some things. Especially about the /perl alias. Naive me, I thoughtE all CGI went into /cgi-bin by convention, but that doesn't seem to belE necessarily so. The guide has a section on "Running CGI, PerlRun, and 0 Registry Scripts Located in the Same Directory".  > I'm still searching for an explanation of "Apache::PerlRun"...   Thanks,!  
 Dave Lloyd  D --------------------------------------------------------------------2 "Mr. Generic" <someone@microsoft> wrote in message: news:v7KD6.67$hH1.5137@newsread3.news.pas.earthlink.net...F > I have been trying to get mod_perl to work with CSWS (Apache 1.3.14) withouteL > much luck. I believe my sample code works (below), as I have tried it on aJ > Tru64 server and a Solaris box with success. It runs from DCL (below). IK > believe the problem may lie in the ShBang ("#!") line, but I've not found 7 > the magic path. I've included the PERL logical below.w >oG > This OS is OVMS V7.2-1 for Alpha. Any help would be much appreciated.u >r > Dave Lloyd >t > Bechtel SAIC >  > Las Vegas, NV  >s> > ------------------------------------------------------------ >e > YMA211> type sample.pl >f	 > #!/perly >e > # Executed with: >t' > # http://localhost/cgi-bin/sample.cgi- >-
 > use CGI; >- > $q = new CGI;  >  > print $q->header();r > 4 > print $q->start_html(-title=>'Sample CGI Script'); >:( > print $q->h1("Environment Variables"); >9  > print $q->p(),"Remote Host: "; >. > print $q->remote_host(); >a > print $q->p(),"Remote IP: "; >a > print $q->remote_addr(); >r > print $q->end_html();a >y
 > exit(0); >l	 > YMA211>  >  > YMA211> perl sample.pl >d: > (offline mode: enter name=value pairs on standard input) >c > Exit >o > Content-Type: text/htmlN >L0 > <!DOCTYPE HTML PUBLIC "-//IETF//DTD HTML//EN"> >a. > <HTML><HEAD><TITLE>Sample CGI Script</TITLE> >r< > </HEAD><BODY><H1>Environment Variables</H1><P>Remote Host: > localhost<P>Remote IPe >r > : 127.0.0.1</BODY></HTML>e >C	 > YMA211>U >N > YMA211> sho symb/glob perl >r' > PERL == "$PERL_ROOT:[000000]PERL.EXE"g >o	 > YMA211>P >o > YMA211> sho log PERL_ROOTh > < > "PERL_ROOT" = "YMA211$DKA0:[SYS0.SYSCOMMON.PERL5_005_03.]" > (LNM$SYSTEM_TABLE) >u	 > YMA211>e >a >a >s >l   ------------------------------   End of INFO-VAX 2001.222 ************************