1 INFO-VAX	Sun, 22 Apr 2001	Volume 2001 : Issue 224       Contents:' Re: - OpenVMS ever to be on Intel chip? ! Re: Compaq (Workstations to NASA) ! Re: Compaq (Workstations to NASA) P Compaq Enterprise Technical Symposium 2001 Call for Participation Pre-Announceme DECNet IV or DECNet V? Re: DECNet IV or DECNet V?) Re: Management Musical Chairs in the BCSG ) Re: Management Musical Chairs in the BCSG ) Re: Management Musical Chairs in the BCSG = Re: Need a endless process that wont consume System resources = Re: Need a endless process that wont consume System resources / RE: OpenVMS article - please explain last line! ' Re: OpenVMS equiv of UNIX  pipe Command  OpenVMS Hobbyist version Re: OpenVMS Hobbyist version! Re: Outstanding News for OpenVMS! 
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 WIS... RIP???  Re: WIS... RIP???  Re: [NOISE] gum or gun?   F ----------------------------------------------------------------------  % Date: Sat, 21 Apr 2001 19:18:59 +0100 C From: "Lock Horsburgh" <lock@lhorsburgh.NO.RUBBISH.freeserve.co.uk> 0 Subject: Re: - OpenVMS ever to be on Intel chip?/ Message-ID: <9bsivs$9ma$1@newsg1.svr.pol.co.uk>    Thanks to those who replied.  @ I visited the software resources site and read up on CHARON-VAX.= Unfortunately they have discontinued the "hobbyist" download, < which would work on Win95, and it says the downloaded copies will only work till April 2001.   ' The cheapest version seems to be $1900.   C But what I didn't find was, how do you get a licence to run VMS etc   other than the hobbyist licence?E What do Compaq think of this, is it an opportunity for them to charge C whatever they like, cos you must be desperate? Or are they hostile, 9 cos they want you to buy Alpha boxes? Or don't they care?   4 Is anybody using this live, for commercial use, yet?   Lock.    ------------------------------   Date: 21 Apr 2001 18:52:26 CDT= From: wayne@tachysoft.xxx.065234.killspam.015d (Wayne Sewell) * Subject: Re: Compaq (Workstations to NASA). Message-ID: <DKOOmjLIKldw@tachxxsoftxxconsult>  N In article <VA.0000036d.00d31e26@sture.ch>, Paul Sture <paul@sture.ch> writes:> > In article <3ADEF8D9.AD6C300E@gtech.com>, Arne Vajhj wrote:- >> From: Arne Vajhj <arne.vajhoej@gtech.com>  >> Newsgroups: comp.os.vms- >> Subject: Re: Compaq (Workstations to NASA) ( >> Date: Thu, 19 Apr 2001 16:40:25 +0200' >> To: Rudolf Wingert <win@fom.fgan.de>  >>   >> Rudolf Wingert wrote: >> > Arne wrotes: ? >> >> Real work-stations is Unix or NT today. VMS work-stations @ >> >> are usually development/test/management systems related to >> >> bigger VMS systems.  >>  Q >> > I can't believe that. Should we the last one who needs OpenVMS workstations? L >> > We are an institute for image understanding and pattern recognition andO >> > do need powerfull workstations, such as XP1000 as single user workstation, P >> > over DS20 to ES40 as a workstation for imagesequence computing (hundreds ofP >> > GBs). If Compaq would no longer produce a OpenVMS workstation, OpenVMS will >> > die!!!! >>  I >> I 100% agree that VMS should continue to have work-sttaions. I am just G >> saying that the number of VMS work-stations sold to sites where they K >> have only work-stations are very very small. VMS work-stations are today F >> usually sold to sites where they hav emany bigger systems. And thisD >> is actually the key in the argument for VMS work-stations. CompaqF >> may not make that much money on the VS10's and XP1000 with VMS, butI >> they may loose huge sales of GS'es and ES'es, if the work-stations are C >> not there. They need a complete array of different size systems.  >>  Q > I use my VMS workstation to manage several clusters and standalone systems. It  S > is simple logic. If my workstation breaks, I can use my VMS expertise to fix it,  ) > and have colleagues on hand to help me.  > M > An NT box doing that role means that if it breaks I would have to call the  K > helpdesk, have them raise a ticket, assign someone to the job and so on.    O Not to mention that the billybox is a hundred times more likely to break than a # vms workstation in the first place.       L As has been mentioned many times in threads such as this, third parties needN smaller vms machines for development and testing of software.  Only Oracle andN the other giants can afford to develop on Wildfire systems.  Small systems areM especially important when you talk about testing, because they make it easier I to test on multiple architectures and operating system versions in a more J efficient manner.  If people weren't so adamant about running ridiculouslyO ancient versions and demanding full support anyway, this wouldn't be that great # a factor.  Unfortunately, they are.    --  O =============================================================================== M Wayne Sewell, Tachyon Software Consulting  (281)812-0738  wayne@tachysoft.xxx : http://www.tachysoft.xxx/www/tachyon.html and wayne.html  K change .xxx to .com in addresses above, assuming you are not a spambot  :-) O =============================================================================== B Jed Clampett, checking into hotel: "This place got a cement pond?"+ Ellie May: "And do yuh let critters in it?"    ------------------------------  % Date: Sat, 21 Apr 2001 22:29:16 -0500 1 From: "David J. Dachtera" <djesys.nospam@fsi.net> * Subject: Re: Compaq (Workstations to NASA)' Message-ID: <3AE2500C.38582C4D@fsi.net>    Wayne Sewell wrote:  > [snip]N > As has been mentioned many times in threads such as this, third parties needP > smaller vms machines for development and testing of software.  Only Oracle andP > the other giants can afford to develop on Wildfire systems.  Small systems areO > especially important when you talk about testing, because they make it easier K > to test on multiple architectures and operating system versions in a more L > efficient manner.  If people weren't so adamant about running ridiculouslyQ > ancient versions and demanding full support anyway, this wouldn't be that great % > a factor.  Unfortunately, they are.   C I'm sure you realize, of course, that this is frequently not within @ their control. The application software vendors have either gone7 belly-up or have been assimilated and/or moved to UN*X.   F Remember all the software that broke at the V5.1/V5.2 boundary? ...the V6.2/V7.x boundary?   H When you're binary only and/or have no source code and/or can't VEST theB programs and/or can't replace the app. on another o.s., staying at- V5.5-2 or V6.2 or V7.1-x is your only option.   C A point I've been trying to make for years now, but lack the proper F words to express, is best summed up in this excerpt from a note I sent% to Richard Marcello not so long ago:    A > It's always been said that the CSA (nee ASAP) program provides  G > "affordable" hardware and software to developers and other ISVs. The  F > part that's missing, of course, is the market for any products that A > would-be developers and ISVs might produce. Without affordable  C > licensing for end-users of OpenVMS, there will be no market and,  # > therefore, no developers or ISVs.   G If someone knows a better, more convincing or more effective way to say  that, I'm all ears.    --   David J. Dachtera  dba DJE Systems  http://www.djesys.com/  : Unofficial Affordable OpenVMS Home Page and Message Board: http://www.djesys.com/vms/soho/   F This *IS* an OpenVMS-related newsgroup. So, a certain bias in postings is to be expected.  @ Feel free to exercise your rights of free speech and expression.  F However, attacks against individual posters, or groups of posters, are strongly discouraged.    ------------------------------  $ Date: Thu, 8 Mar 2001 07:15:39 -05003 From: "CETS Information" <Information@CETS2001.com> Y Subject: Compaq Enterprise Technical Symposium 2001 Call for Participation Pre-Announceme 2 Message-ID: <987t6g$u8m$1@slb0.atl.mindspring.net>  - Call For Participation (CFP) Pre-Announcement 6 Compaq Enterprise Technical Symposium 2001 (CETS-2001)   Anaheim California# Technical Symposium: September 9-14 & Pre-Conference Seminars: September 8-9  F The CETS-2001 CFP system will go live the first week in April. SessionL proposals submitted by May 1, 2001 are the CFP submissions most likely to beL considered for scheduling. If you are interested in speaking at CETS-2001 it* is best to submit your session by May 1st.    % Q: Who is the audience for CETS-2001?   L A: The attendees at CETS-2001 are knowledgeable IT professionals who design,F implement, and maintain multi-system or complex computing environmentsI starting at the workgroup level on up to the corporate data center level.     : Q: What is the level of the sessions offered at CETS-2001?  H A: The sessions offered are in the range of intermediate to the advancedH level. Introductory sessions tend not to be offered. Novice sessions forF experienced IT professionals are offered but these sessions assume theI attendee is experienced in other technologies and the new material can be ! covered at an intermediate level.     7 Q: What type of session is most likely to be scheduled?   E A: Any session that is focused on the actual implementation of Compaq L related technology is very likely to be scheduled. Sessions that are focused& on "how we did it" are highly desired.    9 Q: Does this include sessions using 3rd party technology?   L A: Yes as long as the session is focused on technology related to the Compaq style of computing.     / Q: Does this include 3rd party vendor sessions?   H A: 3rd party vendor sessions are closely monitored. It is unlikely a 3rdH vendor session focused on "features and functions" or "speeds and feeds"L will be scheduled. Compaq also is almost completely prohibited from offeringI these types of sessions. For a 3rd party session to be considered it most H likely would have to focus on "how we did it" using Compaq complementaryL technology in a real world customer implementation, preferably involving the customer as a speaker.    ! Q: What about marketing sessions?   H A: CETS-2001 has an educational program that is designed for a technicalK conference and not a tradeshow. The focus of almost all sessions, including G Compaq's, is "how" to apply technology in order to speed the attendees' L implementation of IT projects. This includes "how to" use a given technologyF and "how we did it" with a given technology sessions. Speeds and feedsB marketing sessions are limited to a few general overview sessions.    ' Q: What about weekend Seminar sessions?     A: Details will be posted later.    = Q: Will there be a public announcement of the CFP going live?    A: Yes it will be posted here.     Q: What should I do now?  J A: Begin designing your session. When the CFP system goes live you will beD required to submit an abstract for the session. That will included aC write-up describing the session. Begin designing your abstract now.     1 Q: Do the speakers receive anything for speaking?   D A: The conference registration fee of $1,395 is waived for speakers.    4 Q: Where do I find more information about CETS-2001?  I A: The web site for CETS-2001 is www.CETS2001.com. Information will begin  appearing in April.    ------------------------------  # Date: Sun, 22 Apr 2001 01:50:52 GMT * From: a-mullen@uiuc.edu (Anthony J Mullen) Subject: DECNet IV or DECNet V? 1 Message-ID: <3ae238b8.94805481@news.cso.uiuc.edu>    Greetings -   F I would like to install OpenVMS on my Multia.  Should I install DECNet IV or DECNet V on it?    Tony -   ------------------------------  % Date: Sat, 21 Apr 2001 22:40:44 -0500 1 From: "David J. Dachtera" <djesys.nospam@fsi.net> # Subject: Re: DECNet IV or DECNet V? ' Message-ID: <3AE252BC.865E0B3F@fsi.net>    Anthony J Mullen wrote:  > 
 > Greetings -  > H > I would like to install OpenVMS on my Multia.  Should I install DECNet > IV or DECNet V on it?   8 It depends. The call for DECnet is quite low these days.  H DECnet-IV is *VERY* solid. It's *VERY* "set it and forget it". It issuesD few or no messages when the network is running even marginally well.  C DECnet-V is fairly solid, but not as much as IV. DECnet-V is *VERY* F effort intensive to set up and maintain; however, you have it running,D it frequently rrequires little or no "hands-on" management. DECnet-VF issue *MANY* OPCOM messages: when it's starting, when the network goesE marginal, when set-up is not quite what it might need to be. DECnet-V F does not allow that counters can be zeroed; so, to track problems, youE have to track counters. (What were the counts? What are they now?) In H contrast, DECnet-IV allows that counters can be zeroed. (What counts areB not zero, but should be? What counts are zero, but should not be?)  G I believe Multinet supports TCP/IP over DECnet-IV, but that there is no 3 "magic" available to provide DECnet-IV over TCP/IP.   ? DECnet-V provides facililties which support DECnet over TCP/IP.   = As others have mentioned, DECnet-V needs more memory than IV.   E So, really, it depends what you want/need. I recommend IV, unless you 3 have a specific need to acquire DECnet-V expertise.    --   David J. Dachtera  dba DJE Systems  http://www.djesys.com/  : Unofficial Affordable OpenVMS Home Page and Message Board: http://www.djesys.com/vms/soho/   F This *IS* an OpenVMS-related newsgroup. So, a certain bias in postings is to be expected.  @ Feel free to exercise your rights of free speech and expression.  F However, attacks against individual posters, or groups of posters, are strongly discouraged.    ------------------------------  % Date: Sat, 21 Apr 2001 21:39:30 +0100 % From: Alan Greig <a.greig@virgin.net> 2 Subject: Re: Management Musical Chairs in the BCSG* Message-ID: <3AE1F002.FF5B7C64@virgin.net>   Terry C Shannon wrote:  K > There have been some changes on CPQ's BCSG org chart. The changes involve L > the realignment and focusing of the Alpha-centric High Performance SystemsJ > business. At first glance these changes appear to be positive for Alpha,  > OpenVMS, and Tru64 UNIX users. > H > I expect that Mike Magee will have some details on www.theinquirer.net > later today.  M And I've received email from the formerly evil one Mike Winkler in reponse to M my comments on lack of mention of VMS in the "Where Compaq is headed" section J of Inform. He says that where VMS is concerned "he has found religion" andJ that from now on he will make sure VMS features prominently and that he is; looking to growing the VMS base and is open to suggestions.   N One thing you can say about Compaq is, unlike DEC, they appear to listen. Even if you do have to shout.  M Congratulations to Rich Marcello and the team on all the positive news you've M been able to spread to the VMS community over the last year or two. It hasn't ; all been plain sailing but then it was never going to be...  --
 Alan Greig   ------------------------------  % Date: Sat, 21 Apr 2001 17:15:19 -0400 2 From: rdeininger@mindspring.com (Robert Deininger)2 Subject: Re: Management Musical Chairs in the BCSGL Message-ID: <rdeininger-2104011715190001@user-2ivebh1.dialup.mindspring.com>  J In article <3AE1F002.FF5B7C64@virgin.net>, Alan Greig <a.greig@virgin.net> wrote:   > O > And I've received email from the formerly evil one Mike Winkler in reponse to O > my comments on lack of mention of VMS in the "Where Compaq is headed" section L > of Inform. He says that where VMS is concerned "he has found religion" andL > that from now on he will make sure VMS features prominently and that he is= > looking to growing the VMS base and is open to suggestions.   I Hmm.  Sounds more like Mr. Winkler got his ashes hauled.  Someone _above_ ' him found religion and did the hauling.   H If he's "open to suggestions", it might be a good opening to discuss theG educational licence problems.   Hopefully, all the university folks who  haveD complained in c.o.v about the program will send Mr. Winkler a coupleJ hundred words describing what _they_ need in an EDU licence program.  If I& were an academic, I'd join the chorus.  P > One thing you can say about Compaq is, unlike DEC, they appear to listen. Even > if you do have to shout.  H That cast-iron skillet you were bouncing off their heads probably helped as well.   -- e Robert Deininger rdeininger@mindspring.coml   ------------------------------  % Date: Sat, 21 Apr 2001 17:20:25 -0500e1 From: "David J. Dachtera" <djesys.nospam@fsi.net>f2 Subject: Re: Management Musical Chairs in the BCSG' Message-ID: <3AE207A9.C2C5EB7E@fsi.net>i   Alan Greig wrote:: >  > Terry C Shannon wrote: > M > > There have been some changes on CPQ's BCSG org chart. The changes involvegN > > the realignment and focusing of the Alpha-centric High Performance SystemsL > > business. At first glance these changes appear to be positive for Alpha," > > OpenVMS, and Tru64 UNIX users. > >dJ > > I expect that Mike Magee will have some details on www.theinquirer.net > > later today. > O > And I've received email from the formerly evil one Mike Winkler in reponse toTO > my comments on lack of mention of VMS in the "Where Compaq is headed" section L > of Inform. He says that where VMS is concerned "he has found religion" andL > that from now on he will make sure VMS features prominently and that he is= > looking to growing the VMS base and is open to suggestions.a  $ ...and his e-mail address is ... ???  P > One thing you can say about Compaq is, unlike DEC, they appear to listen. Even > if you do have to shout.  D Well, we've been talking, preaching, shouting, etc. about AffordableD OpenVMS for a *VERY* long time, even before the hobbyist program was	 proposed.i  O > Congratulations to Rich Marcello and the team on all the positive news you'vetO > been able to spread to the VMS community over the last year or two. It hasn't = > all been plain sailing but then it was never going to be...m  F True - but purposely steering so the wind is against you hardly helps, either.t   I second the congratulations.w  G However, to change metaphors, I just hope that someone finds the clutchyH pedal soon so we can get out of "creeper drive" and kick into OVERDRIVE!E From there, it's just "pedal to the metal" and hang on for dear life!1   --   David J. Dachtera  dba DJE Systemsf http://www.djesys.com/  : Unofficial Affordable OpenVMS Home Page and Message Board: http://www.djesys.com/vms/soho/l  F This *IS* an OpenVMS-related newsgroup. So, a certain bias in postings is to be expected.  @ Feel free to exercise your rights of free speech and expression.  F However, attacks against individual posters, or groups of posters, are strongly discouraged.i   ------------------------------  % Date: Sat, 21 Apr 2001 18:03:37 -0400s2 From: rdeininger@mindspring.com (Robert Deininger)F Subject: Re: Need a endless process that wont consume System resourcesL Message-ID: <rdeininger-2104011803370001@user-2ivebh1.dialup.mindspring.com>  7 In article <9brrds$6tm@news.or.intel.com>, "Iris Green"s <iris.green@intel.com> wrote:r     > Two qustions: K > 2. I need a process that will be alive all the time, but will comsume theaM > minimal system resources, so I used    the $wait command. Is there a betterd= > way? what resources - if any - does the $wait command uses?E  L WAIT is fine.  It uses a small data structure and essentially no CPU time.    = In a program, you may also find these system services useful:    $SETIMR2 $HIBER $SCHDWK5 $WAKE   > I believe $SETIMR is the service used by the DCL WAIT command.   -- V Robert Deininger rdeininger@mindspring.comi   ------------------------------  % Date: Sun, 22 Apr 2001 00:14:37 -0400S- From: JF Mezei <jfmezei.spamnot@videotron.ca> F Subject: Re: Need a endless process that wont consume System resources, Message-ID: <3AE25A9A.36E42588@videotron.ca>   Iris Green wrote:uK > 2. I need a process that will be alive all the time, but will comsume the M > minimal system resources, so I used    the $wait command. Is there a betterp= > way? what resources - if any - does the $wait command uses?o  K It depends on what you want your process to do. You may wish to investigate I $HIBER instead of $WAIT. (you can schedule a timer to wake it up, or somee9 other event that triggers an AST which then calls $WAKE).   E I beleive that processes in HIB are more likely to be swapped so whenoN resources at tight. Also, with $HIB, you don't need to have a recurrant timer,K you could , for instance, wake up only upon reception of a mailbox message.mL With $WAIT, the wait time would complete and you'd have to reschedule it, soL if the process had meanwhile been outswapped, it would need to "get back in"# only to re-execute the $WAIt again.u   ------------------------------   Date: 22 Apr 2001 06:57:51 GMT- From: djweath@attglobal.net (Dave Weatherall)c8 Subject: RE: OpenVMS article - please explain last line!5 Message-ID: <DTiotGxQ0bj6-pn2-bPdcJopDGsvo@localhost>u  C On Fri, 20 Apr 2001 17:50:42, mathog@seqaxp.bio.caltech.edu (David v Mathog) wrote:   > In article <DC4745D1A85CA04180C83CDC706A9D180D9538@cthexc02.americas.cpqcorp.net>, "Main, Kerry" <Kerry.Main@compaq.com> writes: > >mJ > >Again, the current low end Alpha DS20 systems use a 5.2Gb/sec cross barG > >switch technology. No one thinks of the DS20 as a "highest end Alpha  > >system".  > M > But it's very important to realize exactly what that means. When I ran the nK > "mybenchmark" programs on a DS20 they came out exactly like they did on aSI > DS10.  That confused me until somebody pointed out that the faster datapK > rate was from BOTH processors to memory - you only see it if your program H > is running on both processors (multithreaded) or if you're running twoM > programs at once.  Any single threaded program "sees" a DS20 pretty much as1 > if it was just a DS10. n  A True David but if there's more than one person/process using the i
 machine...   -- - Cheers - Dave.   ------------------------------    Date: 21 Apr 2001 17:31:46 -0500/ From: jlauret@?.chem.sunysb.edu (Jerome LAURET)o0 Subject: Re: OpenVMS equiv of UNIX  pipe Command. Message-ID: <3ae1fc42_1@dilbert.ic.sunysb.edu>  Y In article <9bh0ck$gp6$1@news.adamastor.ac.za>, "Thys de Wet" <thys@it.sun.ac.za> writes:.	 |>Hi all,x |>E |>Is there an equivalent in OpenVMS 7.2 for the UNIX 's PIPE command?  |>2 |>Please help, even if it seems a stupid question.     	Hum ... $ HELP PIPEe  E 	you have to prefix the command line with the PIPE word. You can alsodG download the freeware VPIPE for earlier (or even later) VMS version. ItrM includes functionalities PIPE does not have (but it's not a real pipe commandhO neither) such the + operator or the &P &LINE mechanism I am using all the time.nQ See http://nucwww.chem.sunysb.edu/htbin/software_list.cgi for more info , packagea name is VPIPE.     |> |>Thanxo |>M |>T de Wet, University of Stellenbosch, South Africa (where do it the OpenVMSo |>way) |> |> |>   --  6                   Jerome LAURET S.U.N.Y. @ Stony Brook$        ,,,,,      Dept. of Chemistry+       ( o o )     Stony Brook NY 11794-3400-;   ---m---U---m---------------------------------------------m)   E-mail: jlauret at mail.chem.sunysb.eduR<   URL   : http://nucwww.chem.sunysb.edu/jlauret/jlauret.html   ------------------------------  # Date: Sun, 22 Apr 2001 01:42:59 GMTA* From: a-mullen@uiuc.edu (Anthony J Mullen)! Subject: OpenVMS Hobbyist versionn1 Message-ID: <3ae2366f.94220494@news.cso.uiuc.edu>k   Greetings -p  B I was wondering what version of OpenVMS I can run under a hobbyistF license.  I can get the media via our University's CSLG.  So I can getA access to the 7.2-1 media.  I would like to install OpenVMS on myS Multia.    Tony -   ------------------------------  % Date: Sun, 22 Apr 2001 04:09:47 +0100o  From: Paul Sture <paul@sture.ch>% Subject: Re: OpenVMS Hobbyist version + Message-ID: <VA.00000373.0447b2b9@sture.ch>i  C In article <3ae2366f.94220494@news.cso.uiuc.edu>, Anthony J Mullen s wrote:, > From: a-mullen@uiuc.edu (Anthony J Mullen) > Newsgroups: comp.os.vms # > Subject: OpenVMS Hobbyist version % > Date: Sun, 22 Apr 2001 01:42:59 GMT  > 
 > Greetings -i > D > I was wondering what version of OpenVMS I can run under a hobbyistH > license.  I can get the media via our University's CSLG.  So I can getC > access to the 7.2-1 media.  I would like to install OpenVMS on myS	 > Multia.2 > I Any version you wish to. 7.2-1 sounds fine. The Multia is not officially  I supported but may work. Please see the OpenVMS FAQ and search for Multia AI for details. In answer to your other post about DECnet Phase IV or V, be n$ aware that Phase V uses more memory.   ___I
 Paul Sture Switzerlande   ------------------------------  % Date: Sat, 21 Apr 2001 21:51:58 +0100 % From: Alan Greig <a.greig@virgin.net>B* Subject: Re: Outstanding News for OpenVMS!* Message-ID: <3AE1F2EE.49F38773@virgin.net>   Rob Young wrote:  + >         Congratulations to Rich Marcello!  >a) > http://www.theinquirer.net/20040106.htmf >IP > "As a result of the latest changes, the Business Critical Server Group becomesN > the Business Critical SOLUTIONS Group. OpenVMS Group VP Rich Marcello is nowL > the VP and General Manager of the High Performance Systems Division, whichB > means Alpha platforms and engineering, Tru64 UNIX, and OpenVMS." >.> >         This is truly outstanding news as far as a long-term >         VMS fan is concerned!-  P And, when you add in the reply I received from Winkler which stated that when itM comes to OpenVMS he has recently found religion, I think even I can find onlyt potential good in the news.$   --
 Alan Greig   ------------------------------    Date: 21 Apr 2001 17:25:01 -0500/ From: jlauret@?.chem.sunysb.edu (Jerome LAURET)n Subject: Re: ps to pdf. Message-ID: <3ae1faad_1@dilbert.ic.sunysb.edu>  7 	Ghostscript does that. See the tool named PS2DRIVER ink& the freeware package named PSUTILS at K http://nucwww.chem.sunysb.edu/htbin/software_list.cgi . This perticular oneeM converts a ps in any other format supported by your gs version. Beware of thesG gif8 default (should be changed) ; my version of gs has gif support butu& that's not the case for everyboddy ...     -- w6                   Jerome LAURET S.U.N.Y. @ Stony Brook$        ,,,,,      Dept. of Chemistry+       ( o o )     Stony Brook NY 11794-3400-;   ---m---U---m---------------------------------------------s&   E-mail: jlauret@mail.chem.sunysb.edu<   URL   : http://nucwww.chem.sunysb.edu/jlauret/jlauret.html   ------------------------------  % Date: Sat, 21 Apr 2001 22:57:21 -0500e1 From: "David J. Dachtera" <djesys.nospam@fsi.net>c; Subject: Re: R.I.P. FTP.WKU.EDU.  Long live FTP.PROCESS.COM:' Message-ID: <3AE256A1.B1E1364E@fsi.net>>   Hunter Goatley wrote:  > @ > After more than 10 years of serving the OpenVMS community, the@ > powers-that-be at Western Kentucky University are on a mission> > to eradicate VMS from the campus.  (I'm not surprised---they5 > were trying to do that before I left there in '95.)  > > > Effective immediately, the FTP.WKU.EDU VMS freeware archives8 > no longer reside on FTP.WKU.EDU.   R.I.P. FTP.WKU.EDU. > A > The good news is that, thanks to Process Software, the archivesi: > live on.  The new URLs for the primary interfaces to the > former WKU archives are: > ! > http://www.process.com/openvms/r >  > and  > % > ftp://ftp.process.com/vms-freeware/  > < > Most of the WKU mirrors have been updated already to refer= > to the new home for the archives.  The main URL will always!= > have valid pointers to the current mirrors.  There may be a-? > couple of hiccups in the transfer; if you find something odd,o > please drop me a line.  A I'll update the links on http://www.djesys.com/ as soon as I can.    Thanx for letting us know!   -- w David J. Dachtera  dba DJE Systemsn http://www.djesys.com/  : Unofficial Affordable OpenVMS Home Page and Message Board: http://www.djesys.com/vms/soho/1  F This *IS* an OpenVMS-related newsgroup. So, a certain bias in postings is to be expected.  @ Feel free to exercise your rights of free speech and expression.  F However, attacks against individual posters, or groups of posters, are strongly discouraged.    ------------------------------  # Date: Sat, 21 Apr 2001 18:49:35 GMTt  From: jlsue <jlsuexxxz@home.com> Subject: Re: Silent Sun 8 Message-ID: <qo2sdtc9lgsr4b78hvslbvpss2br0k4dfj@4ax.com>  E On Wed, 11 Apr 2001 16:30:03 GMT, hoffman@xdelta.zko.dec.nospam (Hoffs Hoffman) wrote:   ^ >In article <3AD450C5.247D5F18@uk.sun.com>, andrew harrison <andrew.nospam@uk.sun.com> writes:D >:As for Compaq they have sent out the standard we are investigating >:this response. u >:* >:You could do this with a mail responder. >s& >  So Sun has no mail responders?  :-) >O  3 Er... isn't Andrew the Sun mail responder?  ;-) ;-)o   ------------------------------  % Date: Sat, 21 Apr 2001 19:22:27 +0100a+ From: "antonio.carlini" <arcarlini@iee.org>o5 Subject: Re: Using 3-phase power converters on VAXen?r' Message-ID: <3AE1CFE3.7DB9C4D4@iee.org>e   Larry Kilgallen wrote:H > A standard three-wire center-ground connection in the US can be viewedG > as two 110-volt phases (180 degrees from each other) ore one 220-volt 1 > phase.  Or does the UK lack the center ground ?=  ? There is no centre ground in a normal UK domestic installation.C= You get live, neutral and earth. (Neutral is usually groundedy& somewhere upstream, live is 220-240V).   Antonio.   -- .   ---------------o- Antonio Carlini             arcarlini@iee.org=   ------------------------------  % Date: Sun, 22 Apr 2001 03:51:25 +0100   From: Paul Sture <paul@sture.ch>5 Subject: Re: Using 3-phase power converters on VAXen?h+ Message-ID: <VA.00000372.0436e0f6@sture.ch>-  J In article <Q1sb1$P6LpiP@eisner.encompasserve.org>, Larry Kilgallen wrote:; > From: Kilgallen@eisner.decus.org.nospam (Larry Kilgallen) & > Newsgroups: comp.os.vms,comp.sys.dec7 > Subject: Re: Using 3-phase power converters on VAXen?e" > Date: 21 Apr 2001 10:34:26 -0500 > W > In article <3AE194B5.E0D09C2E@iee.org>, "antonio.carlini" <arcarlini@iee.org> writes:e > >  > >  > > Paul Sture wrote:nL > >> Something I'd never thought of before, as in the UK _all_ that stuff is > >> strictly 2 phase. > > ' > > You mean single phase, not 2-phase.  >t  G Got carried away counting the wires. 3 wires - Live, Neutral and Earth.f? 240V AC. Neutral is a definite misnomer as it can give a shock.u  H > A standard three-wire center-ground connection in the US can be viewedG > as two 110-volt phases (180 degrees from each other) ore one 220-volta1 > phase.  Or does the UK lack the center ground ?  >   I The UK does have a ground to earth. Sometimes just a rod into the ground,aH but I've seen it tied to water pipes, and gas pipes as well. Whether theG latter is just a good ground or a way of ensuring that gas and electricy' charge don't mix I honestly don't know.o   ___o
 Paul Sture Switzerlands   ------------------------------  # Date: Sat, 21 Apr 2001 19:56:25 GMT2= From: system@SendSpamHere.ORG (Brian Schenkenberger, VAXman-)  Subject: WIS... RIP???0 Message-ID: <009FAE04.14F0667C@SendSpamHere.ORG>  I Is WIS dead?  I can't even find a DNS entry for relay.service.digital.com   ? Sad...  Is there ever good news in the land of the forsaken OS?s   --O VAXman- OpenVMS APE certification number: AAA-0001     VAXman(at)TMESIS(dot)COMa            oO city, n., 1. a place where trees are cut down and streets are named after them.g   ------------------------------  # Date: Sun, 22 Apr 2001 04:38:01 GMTh From: LBohan@dbc.spam_less..comh Subject: Re: WIS... RIP???8 Message-ID: <4sn4etkk5vsqim8gg1e2udsos9jlg0lfnf@4ax.com>  @ On Sat, 21 Apr 2001 19:56:25 GMT, system@SendSpamHere.ORG (Brian Schenkenberger, VAXman-) wrote:w  J >Is WIS dead?  I can't even find a DNS entry for relay.service.digital.com >/@ >Sad...  Is there ever good news in the land of the forsaken OS?  D I wonder if CPQ is giving more *.digital.com addresses the heave-ho.  % http://relay.support.compaq.com:9004/p  ) relay1.support.compaq.com [192.208.35.18]a   ------------------------------  % Date: Sat, 21 Apr 2001 18:05:58 -0400-% From: "John Vottero" <John@mvpsi.com>2  Subject: Re: [NOISE] gum or gun?/ Message-ID: <te4129s14htq2d@news.supernews.com>C  L No, he isn't.  It's "warm gun" and the background singers are singing "bang, bang, shoot, shoot".  G The lyrics include "...when I feel my finger on your trigger...".  Gumsm0 rarely ever have triggers while guns usually do.  . "Didier Morandi" <DMo@ims.ch> wrote in message  news:3AE1C231.72DD65E7@ims.ch...> > Aren't you confusing with "bang bang Maxwell Silver Hammer"? >e > D. >F > Wayne Sewell wrote:a > >oF > > In article <3AE12B2F.59867246@ims.ch>, Didier Morandi <DMo@ims.ch> writes:hA > > > In the famous Beatles song, happiness is a warm gum or gun?-# > > > (which is slightly different)  > >2L > > gun.  If you listen carefully, you hear the background voices say "bang, bang,tH > > shoot, shoot" after the above phrase, which is a pretty good tipoff.   ------------------------------   End of INFO-VAX 2001.224 ************************