1 INFO-VAX	Sat, 28 Apr 2001	Volume 2001 : Issue 237       Contents:+ ANN: FILESERV@Process  - Updated FTP_MIRROR  Re: Anyone still using MASS-11? & Are You Being Investigated? -olwrqgabo7 Re: Broadcast messages while waiting on INQUIRE command 7 Re: Broadcast messages while waiting on INQUIRE command 7 Re: Broadcast messages while waiting on INQUIRE command / Re: DCL To Compute IP Address From Hex Number ? / Re: DCL To Compute IP Address From Hex Number ? C inflammatory sigs (was RE: 80% is Good Enough for M$. Now it's 100% G Re: inflammatory sigs (was RE: 80% is Good Enough for M$. Now it's 100% P Medi-Supply.Com...here to support you with 6000+=?UNKNOWN?Q?searchable=2C=A0?= b7 RE: Mounting and Management station: comments please... 7 Re: Mounting and Management station: comments please...  RE: network card on win2k , OpenVMS GS Series Performance Online Seminar2 Re: R.I.P. FTP.WKU.EDU.  Long live FTP.PROCESS.COM> Re: Ripping ods-2 cd on AlphaOpenVMS burning ods-2 cd in Win98> Re: Ripping ods-2 cd on AlphaOpenVMS burning ods-2 cd in Win98> Re: Ripping ods-2 cd on AlphaOpenVMS burning ods-2 cd in Win98> Re: Ripping ods-2 cd on AlphaOpenVMS burning ods-2 cd in Win98P RE: seeking performance numbers for distributed lock manager traf	ficvia FDDI FDP seeking performance numbers for distributed lock manager traffic via FDDI FDDIFD Re: Sync Comm - PCI Card( Re: TCP/IP 5.1 Allow Host Table To Wiped RE: VMS and Fast Etherchannel?2 Re: What Oracle Database is supported by Open VMS?  F ----------------------------------------------------------------------  # Date: Sat, 28 Apr 2001 14:14:43 GMT - From: goathunter@goatley.com (Hunter Goatley) 4 Subject: ANN: FILESERV@Process  - Updated FTP_MIRROR1 Message-ID: <3aeacfa6.133668054@swen.process.com>   @ An update to FTP_MIRROR (V1.0-3) is now available.  This version= corrects a problem with using UCX FTP as a client.  Thanks to " Martin Zinser for the corrections.  < FTP_MIRROR lets VMS systems mirror other FTP sites, both VMS	 and UNIX.   < You can download FTP_MIRROR using one of the following URLs:   http://www.process.com/openvms/   : ftp://ftp.process.com/vms-freeware/fileserv/ftp_mirror.zip6 ftp://ftp.tmk.com/vms-freeware/fileserv/ftp_mirror.zip  7 The other mirrors will be updated in the next 24 hours.    Hunter ------9 Hunter Goatley, Process Software, http://www.process.com/ 9 goathunter@goatley.com     http://www.goatley.com/hunter/    ------------------------------  % Date: Sat, 28 Apr 2001 12:30:29 -0400 2 From: rdeininger@mindspring.com (Robert Deininger)( Subject: Re: Anyone still using MASS-11?L Message-ID: <rdeininger-2804011230300001@user-2ivec65.dialup.mindspring.com>  ? In article <3AE9B927.C7C1EEA@ix.netcom.com>, "Joe H. 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 >Hi list !0 >   Could you help me with this simple problem ?6 >I build a simple menu system based on a DCL procedure6 >: it displays a list of option and then wait the user! >choice with the INQUIRE command. 3 >It works well but when a broadcast message arrives 5 >(i.e. "you have a new message") the top lines scrool + >up and the choice list appear disordered.  ( >In this case the ctrl-W does not work. 5 >Do you have any suggestions to avoid this problem or , >do you know of a simple utility to use for ) >displaying a list of options to users ?   >  >Robert  >  > G >______________________________________________________________________  >Do You Yahoo!? G >Il tuo indirizzo gratis e per sempre @yahoo.it su http://mail.yahoo.it    ------------------------------  % Date: Sat, 28 Apr 2001 10:56:51 -0400 2 From: "John Gemignani, Jr." <john@ossc.DELETE.net>8 Subject: Re: DCL To Compute IP Address From Hex Number ?+ Message-ID: <3aeadb4e$1@newsfeed.vitts.com>   J Something new in V5.1, but you need to feed the command through SYS$INPUT:   $ TELNET SHOW DEVICE TNA4:  EXIT $    Will generate:   Device TNA4:?     Access port name:       "Host: dhcp-43.ossc.net Port: 3474" "     Characteristics:        (none))     Connection attempts:        0 (tries) +     Connection interval:        0 (seconds) +     Connection timeout:         0 (seconds) 5     Data high limit:          512 (bytes at VCI port) 5     Data low limit:           256 (bytes at VCI port) +     Idle interval:              0 (seconds) +     Idle timeout:               0 (seconds) "     Network device name:    BG440:"     Protocol:               TELNET/     Local address:          64.31.126.37 (mail) !               port:            23 ;     Remote address:         64.31.126.43 (dhcp-43.ossc.net) !               port:          3474       Service type:           None  ? You can see that there is lots of information for you to glean.    Hope this helps...   -John     A "Jerry Leslie" <LESLIE@209-16-45-102.insync.net> wrote in message # news:7lLF6.1779$%L5.31592@insync... : > I'm modifying some DCL scripts to work with TCP/IP V5.1.3 > The following command used to get the IP address:  > % >  $ ip = f$getjpi("","tt_accpornam")  >  > but now gets:  >  >  $ show symbol ip + >   IP = "Host: OLYSC2 Locn: _RTA1:/VECTOR"  > A > My current plan is to use the hex value of the IP address which = > makes up part of the value of the SYS$REM_ID logical; e.g.:  > / >  $ ip = f$extract(8,8,f$trnlnm("sys$rem_id"))  >  >  $ show symbol ip  >   IP = "5B71B34" > = > Has someone already written a DCL procedure to convert such 8 > hex values to IP addresses acceptable to TCP/IP V5.1 ? >  > Thanks in advance, > 1 > --Jerry Leslie   leslie@209-16-45-97.insync.net = >                  leslie@209-16-45-102.insync.net is invalid 4 >                  (my opinions are strictly my own)   ------------------------------  % Date: Sat, 28 Apr 2001 11:00:42 -0400 2 From: "John Gemignani, Jr." <john@ossc.DELETE.net>8 Subject: Re: DCL To Compute IP Address From Hex Number ?+ Message-ID: <3aeadc36$1@newsfeed.vitts.com>   / No, this MOST DEFINITELY is a TCPIP connection.   G The "Locn:" replaces "Port:" when the client supports the TELNET SNDLOC G option.  This support is new in V5.1 TELNET server.  SNDLOC support was L added in TELNET client for V5.1, and it sends the logical terminal name/userH name as the location info, and the user cannot manipulate this using the client.    -John   @ "John E. Malmberg" <malmberg@encompasserve.org> wrote in message- news:lCCoieW9yeFf@eisner.encompasserve.org... * > In article <7lLF6.1779$%L5.31592@insync> >  (Jerry Leslie) writes: < > > I'm modifying some DCL scripts to work with TCP/IP V5.1.5 > > The following command used to get the IP address:  > > ' > >  $ ip = f$getjpi("","tt_accpornam")  > >  > > but now gets:  > >  > >  $ show symbol ip - > >   IP = "Host: OLYSC2 Locn: _RTA1:/VECTOR"  > A > This is indicating that it is a DECNET, not a TCPIP connection. @ > Do you have a SET HOST 0 or something that you may have missed > before running the script? > C > > My current plan is to use the hex value of the IP address which ? > > makes up part of the value of the SYS$REM_ID logical; e.g.:  > > 1 > >  $ ip = f$extract(8,8,f$trnlnm("sys$rem_id"))  > >  > >  $ show symbol ip  > >   IP = "5B71B34" > > ? > > Has someone already written a DCL procedure to convert such : > > hex values to IP addresses acceptable to TCP/IP V5.1 ? > 8 > see http://encompasserve.org/~malmberg/dcl/whatami.com > + > For the browser impaired, use whatami.txt  >  > -John  > Personal Opinion Only  > wb8tyw@qsl.network   ------------------------------   Date: 28 Apr 2001 07:25:32 CDT= From: wayne@tachysoft.xxx.065234.killspam.015d (Wayne Sewell) L Subject: inflammatory sigs (was RE: 80% is Good Enough for M$. Now it's 100%. Message-ID: <XVOuYhrMPk9q@tachxxsoftxxconsult>  M To be honest, I'm a little confused by this post.  In other followups in this N subthread, you indicate that you agree with me, and I did notice the smileys. 0 But I do want to address one statement you made.    z In article <3B55D7F383B0D31197D9009027541CBF0D9D1DC4@cmiexch1.cmi.itds.com>, Christopher Smith <csmith@amdocs.com> writes: >> -----Original Message----- 1 >> From: wayne@tachysoft.xxx.065234.killspam.015d	 > = >> Personally, I don't think religion belongs in a technical U >> forum in *any* form,n? >> pro or con.  I find religious quotes in sigs, such as those o >> found in posts by@ >> that speakeasy guy, to be every bit as offensive as you find  >> the above.  R    * >Signatures are generally pretty personal,I > so there is no problem, as far as I'm concerned, with putting religious ! > references or whatever in them.N    N In other words, anything goes in a sig as long as it reflects the views of theI poster.  Racial/ethnic slurs, pro-nazi statements, and other inflammatoryS comments are perfectly fine.  N Posters of course have the right to put anything they want in a sig file, freeL speech and all that.   Those who read that news or mail have the right to beM offended and to disassociate themselves from that person to avoid seeing that I sig.  I put the speakeasy guy in my filter file months ago because of thehF religious propoganda.  In fact, I had to filter him on three differentG occasions because he kept changing his address (different variations ofo  sword7@speakeasy.org or .net).      L My movie/tv quotes may be silly, especially the Three Stooges ones, but theyN are not intended to make a statement, or bend anyone to my way of thinking, or& to flaunt to the world how pious I am.    E >> Jed Clampett, checking into hotel: "This place got a cement pond?"d. >> Ellie May: "And do yuh let critters in it?" > 9 > ... On the other hand, rednecks kind of offend me... ;)- >   M But then, Jed and Ellie May are not trying to convert you to *be* a redneck.   :-)m    L I apologize to the newsgroup for starting all this, and will try not to post any more on the topic.       -- aO ===============================================================================lM Wayne Sewell, Tachyon Software Consulting  (281)812-0738  wayne@tachysoft.xxx : http://www.tachysoft.xxx/www/tachyon.html and wayne.html  K change .xxx to .com in addresses above, assuming you are not a spambot  :-)MO ===============================================================================:B Jed Clampett, checking into hotel: "This place got a cement pond?"+ Ellie May: "And do yuh let critters in it?"    ------------------------------   Date: 28 Apr 2001 09:18:04 CDT= From: wayne@tachysoft.xxx.065234.killspam.015d (Wayne Sewell)mP Subject: Re: inflammatory sigs (was RE: 80% is Good Enough for M$. Now it's 100%. Message-ID: <iTRDedoR9Aiq@tachxxsoftxxconsult>  n In article <XVOuYhrMPk9q@tachxxsoftxxconsult>, wayne@tachysoft.xxx.065234.killspam.015d (Wayne Sewell) writes: > O > To be honest, I'm a little confused by this post.  In other followups in this92 > subthread, you indicate that you agree with me,     G Whoops.  The confusion was all mine.  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 <p>&nbsp;</p>t   </body>n   </html>B    ( --Boundary_(ID_Lsb5AGkrie0gxzRkh1mOuw)--   ------------------------------  % Date: Sat, 28 Apr 2001 08:49:14 -0500u+ From: "Main, Kerry" <Kerry.Main@compaq.com>e@ Subject: RE: Mounting and Management station: comments please...R Message-ID: <DC4745D1A85CA04180C83CDC706A9D180D9589@cthexc02.americas.cpqcorp.net>  2 re: gui management (NT/Motif/whatever ..) stuff ..  L These are usually (not always) targetted at the Help Desk and/or first levelL Operations folks who often have to deal with multiple platform issues and doJ not have the OS specific skills required (read - they are paid quite a bit# less than a systems manager/admin).s  B Imho, there is a place for both ie. command line and GUI's in most Operations shops these days.   Regards,  
 Kerry Main Senior Consultant_ Compaq Canada Inc. Professional ServicesE Voice: 613-592-4660  Fax  :  819-772-7036 Email: Kerry.Main@Compaq.com     -----Original Message-----, From: Jeremy Begg [mailto:jeremy@vsm.com.au] Sent: April 27, 2001 4:23 AM To: Info-VAX@Mvb.Saic.Coml@ Subject: Re: Mounting and Management station: comments please...     Robert Deininger wrote:I  L > In article <Pine.LNX.4.21.0104231529490.21828-100000@irys.stanpol.com.pl>, > gs@stanpol.com.pl wrote: >  >  >>  Can anyone comment:E >> eB >> http://www.openvms.compaq.com/openvms/products/argus/index.html> >> "And, OpenVMS Management Station mounts volumes much faster; >>  than is possible with DCL or command procedures, [...]"n >>       ********************g >> e >>  WHAT ? Why ?> >>  Can't see a way why MOUNT/NOREBUILD followed with /REBUILDA >> in subprocesses (one for disk) *must* be slower than any other*< >> way. Ok, "specialised" .EXE where does the same will save< >> image activactions, but IMHO this is *nothing* worth with& >> typical time of the device mount...8 >>  "Marketing" ? "With Windows you are 'the best'" ? ;> >...H > I thought I was joking, but reading further, I see that they really DO6 > expect this billy-box to be involved in VMS reboots. > J > I assume there were hordes of VMS system managers demanding this productL > over the last few years.  After all, we know that Compaq always listens to' > its customers where VMS is concerned.i  I To be fair to Compaq, I think the Argus project originated in the mid-90ssH when Digital was trying to wash its hands of VMS and VMS engineering was; trying to demonstrate that you could make VMS look like NT.   H While I never used it much, I can well imagine that there would be sitesJ which like its GUI for managing queues and users.  But I agree that having& it run my disk mounts is rather scary!   	Jeremy Begg   ------------------------------  % Date: Sat, 28 Apr 2001 13:07:02 -0400g2 From: rdeininger@mindspring.com (Robert Deininger)@ Subject: Re: Mounting and Management station: comments please...L Message-ID: <rdeininger-2804011307020001@user-2ivec65.dialup.mindspring.com>  
 In articleG <DC4745D1A85CA04180C83CDC706A9D180D9589@cthexc02.americas.cpqcorp.net>,P, "Main, Kerry" <Kerry.Main@compaq.com> wrote:  4 > re: gui management (NT/Motif/whatever ..) stuff .. > N > These are usually (not always) targetted at the Help Desk and/or first levelN > Operations folks who often have to deal with multiple platform issues and doL > not have the OS specific skills required (read - they are paid quite a bit% > less than a systems manager/admin).r  ? Ok. I can see that that might be useful for things like accountuG maintenance, etc.  If it's appropriately restricted.  (Has the industryuF really given up on training folks beyond the skill required to click a1 mouse?  Have we given up on thinking altogether?).  J But letting these low-skill folks modify, via mickey-click on a billy-box,J details of disk mounting?  In such a way that a booting VMS system dependsF on their actions?  Yikes!  That would scare me to death if I had to be around it. ,  J Even with a read-only management tool, what would these help desk folks doJ with disk mounting information?  Escalate to a VMS person, with some vague+ report about the F: drive having a problem?h  D > Imho, there is a place for both ie. command line and GUI's in most > Operations shops these days.  I True.  Which is why it is sad to see Compaq's effort going into billy-box:= GUI development, instead of VMS-based (x-windows or html) GUIdE development.  An x-windows GUI could be used on billy-boxes if a site:F needed to do so.  And I don't believe that ANYONE wants to employ helpJ desk folks who can mickey-click in Windoze, but can't cope with Motif.  IfH your business is that unimportant, you might as well give up and go pick daisies or something.c   -- t Robert Deininger rdeininger@mindspring.com    ------------------------------  % Date: Sat, 28 Apr 2001 07:36:16 -0700s! From: Tom Linden <tom@kednos.com>p" Subject: RE: network card on win2k9 Message-ID: <CIEJLCMNHNNDLLOOGNJIGEJFCHAA.tom@kednos.com>v  H What is the point, to take up bandwidth?  A nic  card costs $19 from any	 number ofo manufacturers.     > -----Original Message-----6 > From: David B Sneddon [mailto:dbsneddon@bigpond.com]& > Sent: Friday, April 27, 2001 8:57 PM > To: Info-VAX@Mvb.Saic.Com $ > Subject: Re: network card on win2k >- >-1 > At 04:14 PM 27/04/01 +0000, Hoff Hoffman wrote::J > >In article <UjgG6.50768$Xx3.287315@news1.eburwd1.vic.optushome.com.au>,/ > >"AConway" <aconway@optushome.com.au> writes:e2 > >:ok lets hope ive got the right place... anyway >  >          [...snip...]  >fK > >   Note: I have no idea if DE450 is tested or supported on Windows 2000.  >iL > We have a couple of machines in the office running Winblows 2000 and using  > DE450s... (for what its worth) >:B > >   Note: comp.sys.dec would often be suggested as a better spot
 > for generic:3 > >   DIGITAL hardware questions and discussions...  > >c4 > >  ---------------------------- #include <rtfaq.h>! > > ----------------------------- 7 > >       For additional, please see the OpenVMS FAQ --  > > www.openvms.compaq.com6 > >  --------------------------- pure personal opinion > > --------------------------- 3 > >    Hoff (Stephen) Hoffman   OpenVMS Engineering2 > hoffman#xdelta.zko.dec.com >  > 
 > Regards, > Dave.e > --K > David B Sneddon (dbs)  OpenVMS Systems Programmer   dbsneddon@bigpond.com7K > Sneddo's quick guide ...          http://www.users.bigpond.com/dbsneddon/oK > DBS freeware at ...   http://www.users.bigpond.com/dbsneddon/software.htm"K > "Life is what happens to you while you're busy making other plans" Lennon9   ------------------------------  % Date: Sat, 28 Apr 2001 08:56:56 -0500 + From: "Main, Kerry" <Kerry.Main@compaq.com>e5 Subject: OpenVMS GS Series Performance Online Seminar R Message-ID: <DC4745D1A85CA04180C83CDC706A9D180D9588@cthexc02.americas.cpqcorp.net>  H Apologies if this was previously posted, but as a fyi: (link posted from OpenVMS "Whats New Page")e  / http://www.mktresponse.com/compaq/training2001/$G "How do you take full advantage of the power and performance of the new"C AlphaServer GS Series systems? What are the benefits of the  latesttE innovations and enhancements of the OpenVMS operating system? What is D partitioning, and how can it help your business handle explosive andI unpredictable workloads?  If you have any of these questions or concerns, 9 then you should dial into the special 1 hour TeleForum:  -  H "Achieving Optimum Performance with OpenVMS on the AlphaServer GS Series	 Systems" J  6 May 1st, 2001 at 9:00 a.m. and 2:00 p.m. Eastern Time    ..[snip see url for more info]  K Register today to ensure your place in this special TeleForum presentation.o    + Call 1-877-258-5997 today, or register at: h1 http://www.mktresponse.com/compaq/training2001reg    Regards,  
 Kerry Main Senior Consultant  Compaq Canada Inc. Professional Services. Voice: 613-592-4660o Fax  :  819-772-7036 Email: Kerry.Main@Compaq.com   ------------------------------  # Date: Sat, 28 Apr 2001 15:46:50 GMTh( From: Terry Kennedy <terry@gate.tmk.com>; Subject: Re: R.I.P. FTP.WKU.EDU.  Long live FTP.PROCESS.COMg' Message-ID: <GCIEI2.M71@spcuna.spc.edu>i  = In comp.os.vms Hunter Goatley <goathunter@goatley.com> wrote:r> > Effective immediately, the FTP.WKU.EDU VMS freeware archives8 > no longer reside on FTP.WKU.EDU.   R.I.P. FTP.WKU.EDU. >p< > Most of the WKU mirrors have been updated already to refer= > to the new home for the archives.  The main URL will alwaysi= > have valid pointers to the current mirrors.  There may be ao? > couple of hiccups in the transfer; if you find something odd,e > please drop me a line.  J   Due to a coincidence (a disk failure on ftp.tmk.com that wasn't reportedL by VMS or caught by DECevent) some folks had the impression that ftp.tmk.comL had stopped being an anonymous FTP server (both for Hunter's material and my
 other stuff).   I   That isn't the case, and Compaq replaced the failed drive yesterday. SoeJ ftp://ftp.tmk.com (and its web equivalent, http://www.tmk.com/ftp) are now back up and ready to serve...a  4         Terry Kennedy             http://www.tmk.com5         terry@tmk.com             Jersey City, NJ USAn   ------------------------------  % Date: Sat, 28 Apr 2001 10:43:03 +0100  From: Roy Omond <Roy@Omond.net>kG Subject: Re: Ripping ods-2 cd on AlphaOpenVMS burning ods-2 cd in Win98G) Message-ID: <3AEA90A7.6D2300B0@Omond.net>D   "Zane H. Healy" wrote:  @ > Brian Schenkenberger, VAXman- <system@sendspamhere.org> wrote:M > > Adap-tick SLeazy CD Creator, I've been told, cannot be used to burn a VMS N > > image without Adap-tick SLeazy CD Creator trying to impose ISO9660 format-N > > ting.  Go with another package or burn the CD on VMS like any right-minded > > VMSer would do.h >dK > Any idea if Toast on the Mac can?  I'm looking into getting a nice new CDxJ > burner for my Mac, and would like to be able to burn VMS images to CD-R.I > Currently I'm using cdrecord on a Linux box with a dying 2x CD-R drive.q  J Sure, Toast can do that.  I've never used Gear or any of the PeeCee stuff, so I'm not able to compare.s  E But I can say I'm very happy with all the features that Toast offers.a  	 Roy Omonde Blue Bubble Ltd.   ------------------------------  # Date: Sat, 28 Apr 2001 07:32:37 GMTi From: Dirk Munk <munk@home.nl>G Subject: Re: Ripping ods-2 cd on AlphaOpenVMS burning ods-2 cd in Win98c' Message-ID: <3AEA7210.D6FE9A8B@home.nl>d   Hoff Hoffman wrote:o  J > In article <3AE9F4CA.7B343F7A@home.nl>, Dirk Munk <munk@home.nl> writes: >eK > :The real question is why we have to rely on freeware tools etc., and whyr7 > :write CD-R's and CD-RW's isn't a part of VMS itself.t >sE >   Would you be willing to pay for a Compaq CD-R or Compaq-specified G >   CD-R drive (including a CD-R media kit the application software andID >   tools for OpenVMS CD-R) and the associated software and hardware! >   support contracts?  How much?   R Sure, this is a way to look at this situation. On the other hand there is an otherQ way of looking at it, and that is a matter of reputation or image. One might say: Q Look, here we have a rather expensive high-end operating system, and I can't even M burn a CD with it !! Something I can do with any cheap o.s. on any cheap homel	 computer.dR It just looks a bit silly that it can't be done with the standard VMS kit. And 3rd! parties do see a market for this:l  .  http://www.usdesign.com/software/pdf/OVMS.pdf     >  >-K >   The "fun" I've had recently involves kitting up a CD-R application tooltJ >   and the associated mechanisms such as LD -- and since folks are givingG >   these away for free, well, I'm not sure how much of a market existsoH >   for a product if/when I finish.  (The purchase price and the supportE >   contract might or might not cover the effort and the costs of thes >   support calls.)u >eP >  ---------------------------- #include <rtfaq.h> -----------------------------L >       For additional, please see the OpenVMS FAQ -- www.openvms.compaq.comP >  --------------------------- pure personal opinion ---------------------------N >    Hoff (Stephen) Hoffman   OpenVMS Engineering   hoffman#xdelta.zko.dec.com   ------------------------------  # Date: Sat, 28 Apr 2001 11:31:25 GMTs= From: system@SendSpamHere.ORG (Brian Schenkenberger, VAXman-)aG Subject: Re: Ripping ods-2 cd on AlphaOpenVMS burning ods-2 cd in Win98e0 Message-ID: <009FB33D.B21120B6@SendSpamHere.ORG>  g In article <bBnG6.67$o7.1484@typhoon.aracnet.com>, "Zane H. Healy" <healyzh@shell1.aracnet.com> writes:,? >Brian Schenkenberger, VAXman- <system@sendspamhere.org> wrote:nL >> Adap-tick SLeazy CD Creator, I've been told, cannot be used to burn a VMSM >> image without Adap-tick SLeazy CD Creator trying to impose ISO9660 format- N >> ting.  Go with another package or burn the CD on VMS like any right-minded  >> VMSer would do. >xJ >Any idea if Toast on the Mac can?  I'm looking into getting a nice new CDJ >burner for my Mac, and would like to be able to burn VMS images to CD-R. H >Currently I'm using cdrecord on a Linux box with a dying 2x CD-R drive. >: >			Zane  I According to the raw data I was able to dump off of a Kodac Picture disk,-H they use MacToast to create theis ISO9660 CD.  It can't be read properlyI on VMS so I wouldn't hold out much hope for it writing VMS formatted CDs.      --O VAXman- OpenVMS APE certification number: AAA-0001     VAXman(at)TMESIS(dot)COM1            hO city, n., 1. a place where trees are cut down and streets are named after them.A   ------------------------------   Date: 28 Apr 2001 07:48:51 CDT= From: wayne@tachysoft.xxx.065234.killspam.015d (Wayne Sewell)aG Subject: Re: Ripping ods-2 cd on AlphaOpenVMS burning ods-2 cd in Win98h. Message-ID: <F35LiE1ScnHX@tachxxsoftxxconsult>  ^ In article <3ae9c8d0.58108970@news.cso.uiuc.edu>, a-mullen@uiuc.edu (Anthony J Mullen) writes: > Hey -s > H > Here I am again.  I'm attempting to make a copy of an OpenVMS-readable > CD.e >  > The process I'm using is;r > $mount/foreign/noassist <dev>0 > $copy <dev> <file>.iso > $ftp <win98 machine> > ftp>binary > ftp>send <file>.iso0 > win98>burn-a-cd  > B > I've tried a couple different options, and I've created a couple > different unreadable cds.m > H > I'm getting closer with Easy CD Creator 4.  This time when I mount the > new cd I get the error;r: > %MOUNT-I-OPRQST, Files-11 home block not found on volume6 > %MOUNT-I-OPRQST, Please mount device _UITCSA$DKA600: > < > Which is progress.  Before I'd get 'media offline' errors. > : > Has anyone else been successful doing something similar?  M I've never done this on a pc, but I've used basically the same technique on aDN cd-burner connected directly to an alpha.  The raw copy of the foreign-mountedO cdrom to a file works fine.  I have found, however, that cdrecord does not likenK arbitrary numbers of blocks.   Your pc program may not either.   For me, ittO works better to use copy/alloc=<count>, where count is rounded up to a multiplesG of 100.  You would need to do the copy twice to see how many blocks areo0 present, then use the /alloc on the second copy.  L Also, make sure that the cd burning program has a block for block mode.  YouL don't want it laying any kind of billy file structure on the cd.  As long asO the program will write blocks verbatim from the container file to the cd-r, you/2 should be able to create any file structure on it.   Waynep --  O ===============================================================================lM Wayne Sewell, Tachyon Software Consulting  (281)812-0738  wayne@tachysoft.xxxi: http://www.tachysoft.xxx/www/tachyon.html and wayne.html  K change .xxx to .com in addresses above, assuming you are not a spambot  :-)cO ================================================================================B Jed Clampett, checking into hotel: "This place got a cement pond?"+ Ellie May: "And do yuh let critters in it?"c   ------------------------------  % Date: Sat, 28 Apr 2001 08:08:31 -0500h+ From: "Main, Kerry" <Kerry.Main@compaq.com> Y Subject: RE: seeking performance numbers for distributed lock manager traf	ficvia FDDI FDiR Message-ID: <DC4745D1A85CA04180C83CDC706A9D180D9587@cthexc02.americas.cpqcorp.net>   Andreas,  K I know you mentioned that you did not know what the network config was, butY -6  I Just a WAG - I seem to remember there being a potential performance issueBG (depending on types of HW in use) associated with converting the larger-1 packet sizes of fddi to ethernet and back again. r  K Now, I don't believe this was an issue with the GigaSwitch, but it would betE worth getting a better understanding of the network config in detail.9   Regards,  
 Kerry Main Senior Consultante Compaq Canada Inc. Professional Servicesf Voice: 613-592-4660a Fax  :  819-772-7036 Email: Kerry.Main@Compaq.com     -----Original Message-----9 From: Andreas Stiller [mailto:Andreas.Stiller@netsurf.de]o Sent: April 28, 2001 3:00 AM To: Info-VAX@Mvb.Saic.ComaA Subject: seeking performance numbers for distributed lock manager  traffic via FDDI FDDI FDDI     Hello,  F the site i have to monitor has performance problems connected with theG distributed lock manager. There is a slight chance that this is related5E with HW-setup of the cluster communication medium we use (FDDI). So iOG search for some numbers from other sites. Currently Compaq-support sees C no need to investigate, but they could'nt explain me their resist. t   1) The conditions: Cluster of 3 GS140 6/700, each8   OpenVMS 7.2-1H1 (patches applied up to start of April)   4 CPU, 16 GB memoryi   2 * CIPCAo
   2 * FDDI   2 * Ethernet  G The CI has two star coupler. The disk farm use HSJ50 with write caches.q4 The disk size is ca. 1TB after host based shadowing.  F The cluster communication use one of the FDDI. This device is reservedE for this purpose. The load is a customer care and billing application> with:   0 Oracle RDB 7.0-5, the DB has a size of ca. 400GB> ca. 900 interactive user accessing the DB from all three nodes     2) The performance problem:w  F RDB acquires an internal lock (so called SEQBLK) exclusivly during theH start of every read-only transaction. After the lock is acquired a block@ of the DB's rootfile is read, then the lock is released. This isA independent of any application code. That means any delay in this $ process can delay all of the users.   E Exactly this is one of the main problems at this site. The peak stall H time coming from this lock are up to 1s (averaged over some time and allB transactions). It was really bad using CI as cluster-communicationA medium. After switching to FDDI it became much better. Now we are H running with averages of 0.1 - 0.3 s for this lock. This could be betterF (i hope). At no time we had performance problems with the rootfile. ItB is a ramdisk with write-back cache and feels no stress at all. TheG perf-problems correlates with RWSCS wait states also. (lock-remasteringsC is switched off). The credit waits are increasing slowly veen after  incressing CLUSTER_REDITS. -  F The "bad feeling" inside the application starts with 9000 ENQ/DEQ rateE shown with MON CLUSTER and is strongly correlated with stalls on thise
 lock (SEQBLK)m     3) Now the questions:   E A) Does anybody have roughly the same configuration ? If yes, what ist& the ENQ/DEQ rate you can run happily ?E That means what DEQ/ENQ rate (to a remote node) of a GS-class machineq can be achieved ?e  H B) With ANAL/SYS, SHO PORT, SHO PORT/ADDR=PE_PDT, SHO PORT /VC=VC_'node'E one can measure roundtrip times for the cluster communication channelfG (here FDDI) to a remote node. I can see fast changing numbers of 1 - 10aG ms here. Is this a good value ? What does this number mean exactly ? Ite seems very large to me.   E In the presentation "Monitoring and Controlling the VMS Lock Manager"nL (http://www.geocities.com/keithparris/decus_presentations/s2000_lockmgr.ppt)G numbers are shown for a enq/deq round trip using CI: 400-500 usec.  TheoF slides shows numbers of 200usec for FDDI+Gigaswitch. So FDDI should be) faster than 1ms in all cases, i assume.     E Is this contradiction sufficient to insist on an investigation of theyC complete FDDI-ring and the switch used ? (sorry i don't know the HW ' setup for the FDDI, but its all Compaq)   ' Thanks for the patience reading so far,s Andreass   ------------------------------  % Date: Sat, 28 Apr 2001 08:59:33 +0200 2 From: Andreas Stiller <Andreas.Stiller@netsurf.de>Y Subject: seeking performance numbers for distributed lock manager traffic via FDDI FDDIFDs* Message-ID: <3AEA6A55.BBCAB193@netsurf.de>   Hello,  F the site i have to monitor has performance problems connected with theG distributed lock manager. There is a slight chance that this is relatedsE with HW-setup of the cluster communication medium we use (FDDI). So itG search for some numbers from other sites. Currently Compaq-support sees C no need to investigate, but they could'nt explain me their resist. u   1) The conditions: Cluster of 3 GS140 6/700, each8   OpenVMS 7.2-1H1 (patches applied up to start of April)   4 CPU, 16 GB memory-   2 * CIPCA 
   2 * FDDI   2 * Ethernet  G The CI has two star coupler. The disk farm use HSJ50 with write caches.n4 The disk size is ca. 1TB after host based shadowing.  F The cluster communication use one of the FDDI. This device is reservedE for this purpose. The load is a customer care and billing application- with:   0 Oracle RDB 7.0-5, the DB has a size of ca. 400GB> ca. 900 interactive user accessing the DB from all three nodes     2) The performance problem:r  F RDB acquires an internal lock (so called SEQBLK) exclusivly during theH start of every read-only transaction. After the lock is acquired a block@ of the DB's rootfile is read, then the lock is released. This isA independent of any application code. That means any delay in thisf$ process can delay all of the users.   E Exactly this is one of the main problems at this site. The peak stallnH time coming from this lock are up to 1s (averaged over some time and allB transactions). It was really bad using CI as cluster-communicationA medium. After switching to FDDI it became much better. Now we aredH running with averages of 0.1 - 0.3 s for this lock. This could be betterF (i hope). At no time we had performance problems with the rootfile. ItB is a ramdisk with write-back cache and feels no stress at all. TheG perf-problems correlates with RWSCS wait states also. (lock-remastering C is switched off). The credit waits are increasing slowly veen aftera incressing CLUSTER_REDITS. d  F The "bad feeling" inside the application starts with 9000 ENQ/DEQ rateE shown with MON CLUSTER and is strongly correlated with stalls on thisu
 lock (SEQBLK)m     3) Now the questions:e  E A) Does anybody have roughly the same configuration ? If yes, what iss& the ENQ/DEQ rate you can run happily ?E That means what DEQ/ENQ rate (to a remote node) of a GS-class machinea can be achieved ?6  H B) With ANAL/SYS, SHO PORT, SHO PORT/ADDR=PE_PDT, SHO PORT /VC=VC_'node'E one can measure roundtrip times for the cluster communication channel3G (here FDDI) to a remote node. I can see fast changing numbers of 1 - 10 G ms here. Is this a good value ? What does this number mean exactly ? Itg seems very large to me.   E In the presentation "Monitoring and Controlling the VMS Lock Manager"wL (http://www.geocities.com/keithparris/decus_presentations/s2000_lockmgr.ppt)G numbers are shown for a enq/deq round trip using CI: 400-500 usec.  ThetF slides shows numbers of 200usec for FDDI+Gigaswitch. So FDDI should be) faster than 1ms in all cases, i assume.  ?  E Is this contradiction sufficient to insist on an investigation of theiC complete FDDI-ring and the switch used ? (sorry i don't know the HWe' setup for the FDDI, but its all Compaq)s  ' Thanks for the patience reading so far,a Andreas.   ------------------------------  % Date: Sat, 28 Apr 2001 13:19:41 -0400u2 From: rdeininger@mindspring.com (Robert Deininger)! Subject: Re: Sync Comm - PCI CardoL Message-ID: <rdeininger-2804011319410001@user-2ivec65.dialup.mindspring.com>  E In article <4FgG6.105905$fs3.17459666@typhoon.tampabay.rr.com>, "johnr! nixon" <jnixon@cfl.rr.com> wrote::  M > I should have been a little more specific.  When I said the "software" only F > supports one card, I should have said that the SPD for SNA 2780/3780M > software  (which is not the only product I use, but is the primary one thatDL > uses the bisynch cards) specifies a maximum of 1 interface (2-8 ports) per	 > system.w  C Maybe you should make a specific request to Compaq to look into the E possibility of supporting more cards with this product.  They _won't_ I expend the manpower to check if nobody asks them to.  They _might_ expendh the manpower if you ask. i  J Seems to me it would be worth asking, when the alternative is buying a lot of extra servers.n  I If Digital (and Compaq) weren't so hard to get information from, we'd all J have the habit of asking them first, instead of only as a last resort.  ItG seems they're getting a little better lately, but everyone I know stilla? dreads picking up the phone and starting the Quest for Reliablea Information.   -- ) Robert Deininger rdeininger@mindspring.comc   ------------------------------  % Date: Sat, 28 Apr 2001 12:13:38 +0100n  From: Paul Sture <paul@sture.ch>1 Subject: Re: TCP/IP 5.1 Allow Host Table To Wipede+ Message-ID: <VA.00000378.24e8d2bd@sture.ch>   F In article <wKkel0f3EuPK@eisner.encompasserve.org>, Bob Koehler wrote:/ > From: koehler@encompasserve.org (Bob Koehler) 4 > Newsgroups: comp.os.vms,vmsnet.networks.tcp-ip.ucx3 > Subject: Re: TCP/IP 5.1 Allow Host Table To Wiped " > Date: 27 Apr 2001 16:49:29 -0500 > ] > In article <3AE9C1C0.71885144@fsi.net>, "David J. Dachtera" <djesys.nospam@fsi.net> writes:: > > C > > At the DCL level, I usually have a "DIR" symbol set up like so:  > >  > > $ sh sym dir2 > >   DIR*ECTORY == "DIRECTORY/SIZE=ALL/DATE/PROT" > > 4 > > Then to override that, I'll use this in a proc.: > > " > > $ DIRECTORYX/NOHEAD/NOTRAIL... > >  > G > This technique is documented with the example of "redefining" logout.nF > $logoutnow is the suggested last command in a DCL file who's started > by the a symbol for logout.n > F And in that context, to logout without executing that DCL file, LOGOFF
 works nicely.v   ___ 
 Paul Sture Switzerland    ------------------------------  % Date: Sat, 28 Apr 2001 07:45:29 -0500l+ From: "Main, Kerry" <Kerry.Main@compaq.com>n' Subject: RE: VMS and Fast Etherchannel?-R Message-ID: <DC4745D1A85CA04180C83CDC706A9D180D9586@cthexc02.americas.cpqcorp.net>   John,:  J >>> My question was simply is that possible under OpenVMS? Can I treat theJ two onboard NICs in the DS10 as 1 with a single IP address? And if so, how would I go about doing that.<<<m  $ A few references that might assist: * http://www.process.com/tcpip/multinet.html. http://www.process.com/tcpip/multinet43ds.htmlJ "Robust IP Stack Paired Network Interface:Paired Network Interface supportJ is a new feature that increases performance and reliability. It allows twoK or more network interface cards (NIC) with their own unique IP addresses infK a VAX or Alpha system to be connected to the same virtual cable in order to D optimize throughput and create NIC redundancy. Any number of OpenVMSD supported NIC types can be used including Ethernet, Token Ring, Fast Ethernet, FDDI, and ATM."a  ; Is this what you were looking for ie. a virtual connection?    Regards,  
 Kerry Main Senior Consultanta Compaq Canada Inc. Professional Servicesd Voice: 613-592-4660  Fax  :  819-772-7036 Email: Kerry.Main@Compaq.com     -----Original Message-----2 From: John Eisenschmidt [mailto:jeisensc@aaas.org] Sent: April 26, 2001 5:47 PM To: Info-VAX@Mvb.Saic.Com ' Subject: Re: VMS and Fast Etherchannel?o     So what was I asking.m  J If we take a piece of PC hardware (which I was crucifying earlier, make noI mistake) which has two onboard NICs, whether I put NT or OpenBSD on it, I L can configure those two NICs to act as 1, bound to the same IP address. Now,I call it trunking, fast etherchannel, whatever, it is two NICs behaving as-! one for throughput and reundancy.a  J My question was simply is that possible under OpenVMS? Can I treat the twoL onboard NICs in the DS10 as 1 with a single IP address? And if so, how would I go about doing that.  H The 802 standards are fun. My favorite is when Novell reverse engineeredL 802.3 for IPX and did it wrong so that a single malformed packet could abend  the server each and every time.   D >>> Paul Repacholi <prep@prep.synonet.com> 04/26/2001 2:40:14 PM >>>( "john nixon" <jnixon@cfl.rr.com> writes:  C > Just so I don't make the same mistake, why did that question pissBD > you off?  Most of the questions that get asked on this board couldE > be answered by reading the documentation.  And how many people knowrF > where and how to get hold of the 802 standards, and how many of them$ > could understand it if they could?  F Oh dear, two Johns... JE asked a 'non-question'. The answer to what heF asked is "Turn one off", or "No", but that is not what he is on about.  C But I don't know what he IS trying to ask! I suspect if he knew thenE correct way to put the question, he would then know the answer, or at C least what he needs done, even if he needed to ask how. Or where tox
 find out how.n  ) You are right about the 802 stuff though!o  F I suspect JE is looking to having a '200Mb ethernet'. Maybe... But any@ answer to THAT, will be a big risk off leading him into a bigger swamp.  ; Having just read the linux.help group didn't help either...    -- -< Paul Repacholi                               1 Crescent Rd.,7 +61 (08) 9257-1001                           Kalamunda.w@                                              West Australia 6076. Raw, Cooked or Well-done, it's all half baked.H Spam-To: uce@ftc.gov,enforcement@sec.gov,sness@fcc.gov,hfurchtg@fcc.gov,#   mpowell@fcc.gov,gtristan@fcc.gov A   ------------------------------  # Date: Sat, 28 Apr 2001 07:41:47 GMTo From: Dirk Munk <munk@home.nl>; Subject: Re: What Oracle Database is supported by Open VMS?J' Message-ID: <3AEA7432.3B106636@home.nl>a   Malcolm Dunnett wrote:  1 > In article <9cdhbi$b98$1@summer.cbr.ryazan.su>,h1 >    "Yuri Ermakov" <ermak@cbr.ryazan.su> writes: 9 > > Current version Oracle 8i 8.1.6 work on OpenVMS Alpha  > >i, >    Oracle 8.1.7 is also available for VMS.  D And 8.1.6 has a big generic (on all o.s. platforms) problem with theC Pro-C part. In some conditions it will open the ORAUS.MSB file manyC/ times per second. Result: 75% performance drop.dC Oracle solution: It seems the 8.0.5. Pro-C part can be used too, oro5 upgrade to 8.1.7. Looks like a solution from Redmond.A   ------------------------------   End of INFO-VAX 2001.237 ************************