1 INFO-VAX	Tue, 07 Aug 2001	Volume 2001 : Issue 436       Contents:E Re: Automating MS Access with DCL code for a report run once a month. D Re: Automating MS Access with DCL code for a report run once amonth.0 RE: Bug with error handling in GOSUB subroutines* Can queue manager handle 100.000 entries ? emulex servers! fms - prototype definitions for C  Help, PWS500 locked up.  Re: Move to Sun ! Re: Owner's manual for vaxstation F Re: Regional VMS employment status ?, was: Re: VMS expertise available4 Re: Suggested DCPS features (was OpenVMS  + Itanium) Re: trapping telnet disconnects  Re: VMS 7.3 experiences?  Re: VMS LK-xxx Terminal Emulator Re: WHO ARE YOU forum?  F ----------------------------------------------------------------------  % Date: Tue, 07 Aug 2001 11:47:13 -0500 & From: Sue Pedersen <pedersen@lcms.org>N Subject: Re: Automating MS Access with DCL code for a report run once a month.5 Message-ID: <000201c11f60$9c133330$c408040a@lcms.org>    Hi,   K I'm not sure where to start with this project.  A colleage is taking a file L from our VAX system and making a report with Access once a month.  A requestJ has been made to automate this process to happen on the 3rd of each month.J I'm assuming I need to put this into the scheduler but I'm not sure how toI get a report to run in Access from a DCL program.  Could you give me some 
 pointers??  
 Thank you, Sue Pedersen pedersen@lcms.org    ------------------------------  % Date: Tue, 07 Aug 2001 13:09:11 -0400 - From: "John Eisenschmidt" <jeisensc@aaas.org> M Subject: Re: Automating MS Access with DCL code for a report run once amonth. # Message-ID: <sb6fe889.051@aaas.org>    Sue,  . How is the data stored in VMS? RMS? Text file?  J I would assume you'd have to transfer the file to the system in question =K and then write some VBA to automate the import, but Access doesn't have a = 
 scheduler.  ' Some more information would be helpful.    Thanks,  John  ? >>> Sue Pedersen <pedersen@lcms.org> 08/07/2001 12:47:13 PM >>>  Hi,   H I'm not sure where to start with this project.  A colleage is taking a = fileF from our VAX system and making a report with Access once a month.  A = request J has been made to automate this process to happen on the 3rd of each month.J I'm assuming I need to put this into the scheduler but I'm not sure how toI get a report to run in Access from a DCL program.  Could you give me some 
 pointers??  
 Thank you, Sue Pedersen pedersen@lcms.org=20   ------------------------------  $ Date: Tue, 7 Aug 2001 11:15:43 +0100- From: "POWERS, John" <John.POWERS@sema.co.uk> 9 Subject: RE: Bug with error handling in GOSUB subroutines = Message-ID: <D30A62ABC710D211AEE100A0C9D615EE0152905F@REAES2>   A You seem to be misunderstanding the way the RETURN verb works. In C the statement ON WARNING THEN RETURN you have not given it a status 9 code to return. To extract from the HELP RETURN PARAMETER 
 description..   C   If you do not specify a status code, the current value of $STATUS <   is saved. When control returns to the outer command level,C   $STATUS contains the status of the most recently executed command 
   or program.   A Thus, the command while running inside the GOSUB section produces A its warning or error, and takes the ON instruction to return that C status to the main procedure with the same error code. This part no B longer has an active ON command, so takes the default values (i.e.A continue on a warning and exit on an error). This mentioned in an  example in help..   <     ...                                                 Once=     the statement has been executed as a result of the severe ?     error condition, the default action (ON ERROR THEN EXIT) is      reinstated.   @ Note that the original SET NOON command got overridden by the ONC command in the local subroutine. The gosub just transfers control - C it does not set up another procedure level, so the SET NOON command B is lost. As mentioned in the ON command description in the VMS DCL
 dictionary..    A   To disable error checking with the ON command, use the SET NOON A   command. You can enable error checking with the SET ON command, %   or by entering another ON command.    @ This can be verified if you replace the ON command with a return5 using any old warning value on the return. e.g. try..   
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 $    SET NOON  $    GOSUB _FUN  $    SHOW SYMBOL $STATUS $    SHOW TIME	 $    EXIT  $_FUN:5 $    ON WARNING THEN RETURN 1000 !(diskquota warning)  $    DIRECTORY 'P1'  $    RETURN   D Running this behaves the way you expect.. the directory command willC return its error, and the return command will return a warning, so  " the main processing will continue.  B One way to ensure that the calling procedure continues is to force@ the local subroutine to always replace any errors with a warningA status (severity 0). This could be achieved by using the command. / $ ON WARNING THEN RETURN $STATUS.AND.%xFFFFFFF0 ? Then when control is returned to the main process, you can call  another SET NOON.   A Alternatively, as you suggested, a CALL command will set up a new C procedure level, so the ON command of the called procedure will not @ have any effect on the ON command of the calling part. (Although@ sometimes CALL is not so easy to use, as passing symbols back to> the caller is a PITA with CALL - everything has to be global).  < So, this behaviour is not really a bug, as it is behaving in# accordance with the documentation..    Simple really :-)    John   >  >-----Original Message----- ; >From: afeldman@gfigroup.com [mailto:afeldman@gfigroup.com]  >Sent: 06 August 2001 19:36  >To: Info-VAX@Mvb.Saic.Com6 >Subject: Bug with error handling in GOSUB subroutines >  >  >Hello all,  > D >The following happens in DCL command procedures on VMS 6.1 and 6.2: > : >It appears to me that there is an error-handling bug withE >GOSUB/RETURN. If one uses a statement such as ON WARNING THEN RETURN @ >in a local subroutine, then all works fine if a warning happensG >($SEVERITY = 0). But if an error or a severe error occurs ($SEVERITY = = >2 or 4), the entire procedure comes to a complete halt. Test  >Procedure:  >  >DCL> TYPE SUBWARN.COM >$    SET NOON >$    GOSUB _FUN >$    SHOW SYMBOL $STATUS  >$    SHOW TIME 
 >$    EXIT >$_FUN:  >$    ON WARNING THEN RETURN >$    DIRECTORY 'P1' >$    RETURN > ) >Let's try it with a warning-level error:  >  >DCL> @SUBWARN ASDF  >$    SET NOON >$    GOSUB _FUN >$_FUN:  >$    ON WARNING THEN RETURN >$    DIRECTORY ASDF" >%DIRECT-W-NOFILES, no files found >$    SHOW SYMBOL $STATUS  >  $STATUS == "%X10018290" >$    SHOW TIME  >   6-AUG-2001 17:06:44 
 >$    EXIT > F >Okay, that worked fine. Now let's try it with a command that produces >an error/severe_error:  >  >DCL> @SUBWARN [ASDF]  >$    SET NOON >$    GOSUB _FUN >$_FUN:  >$    ON WARNING THEN RETURN >$    DIRECTORY [ASDF]@ >%DIRECT-E-OPENIN, error opening DISK$DATA1:[ASDF]*.*;* as input  >-RMS-E-DNF, directory not found# >-SYSTEM-W-NOSUCHFILE, no such file  > D >(Note that DIRECTORY [ASDF] produces a severity level of 2, not 0.) > B >As you can see, the procedure stops dead in its tracks. This alsoG >happens for ON ERROR THEN RETURN if $SEVERITY is 2 or 4 and it happens G >for ON SEVERE_ERROR THEN RETURN if $SEVERITY is 4. The procedure works > >fine in other situations. This bug also happens if you use OND >WARNING|ERR|SEV THEN GOTO _BAD and the first command after _BAD: is >RETURN. > F >Has anyone else seen this? Has it been fixed in a more recent version0 >of VMS (.GT. V6.2)? Am I missing something? TIA > G >P.S. I guess I'll use the "full-fledged" SUBROUTINE/ENDSUBROUTINE as a  >workaround. >  >Disclaimer: JMHO   &-)  >Alan E. Feldman >afeldman@gfigroup.com >    Cheers. John  F  - Note  This message represents my opinions and nothing else, not theI   opinion of SEMA, my family, or the cricket club - though my dog Meg did E   nod in agreement whilst I was typing. If you have any problems then D   please complain to her (or me, but not SEMA, my family or the CC).      K ___________________________________________________________________________ B This email is confidential and intended solely for the use of the H individual to whom it is addressed. Any views or opinions presented are E solely those of the author and do not necessarily represent those of   Sema. M If you are not the intended recipient, be advised that you have received this I email in error and that any use, dissemination, forwarding, printing, or  - copying of this email is strictly prohibited.   B If you have received this email in error please notify the Sema UK. Helpdesk by telephone on +44 (0) 121 627 5600.K ___________________________________________________________________________    ------------------------------  # Date: Tue, 07 Aug 2001 05:43:17 GMT  From: Dirk Munk <munk@home.nl>3 Subject: Can queue manager handle 100.000 entries ? ' Message-ID: <3B6F7FF4.9DBFA53F@home.nl>   F We are considering using SMTP to send bills to customers (no spam mailE !). This could amount to sending about 100,000 e-mail messages from a F batch run. Since every e-mail message is placed in a TCPIP$SMTP queue,C and handled by the queue manager, I wonder if the queue manager can F handle so many entries without serious effects on the speed. I seem to> remember from a very long time ago that very long queues would( dramaticaly slow down the queue manager.   ------------------------------  $ Date: Tue, 7 Aug 2001 13:40:31 -0400) From: "Robert Ricci" <ricci_r@subway.com>  Subject: emulex servers 4 Message-ID: <01d301c11f68$0e767a70$635b5cc0@isricci>  , This is a multi-part message in MIME format.  + ------=_NextPart_000_01D0_01C11F46.87249D20  Content-Type: text/plain;  	charset="iso-8859-1" + Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable    vax 4090 picked up=20 G now have some emulex (Ugh) servers 16-32 ports old---tossing out this =  weekH free if anyone wants them-will also have some old dechub equipmen-such =1 as servers and switches....if interested email me   + ------=_NextPart_000_01D0_01C11F46.87249D20  Content-Type: text/html; 	charset="iso-8859-1" + Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable   > <!DOCTYPE HTML PUBLIC "-//W3C//DTD HTML 4.0 Transitional//EN"> <HTML><HEAD>7 <META http-equiv=3DContent-Type content=3D"text/html; =  charset=3Diso-8859-1">9 <META content=3D"MSHTML 5.50.4522.1800" name=3DGENERATOR>  <STYLE></STYLE>  </HEAD>  <BODY bgColor=3D#ffffff>A <DIV><FONT face=3DArial size=3D2>vax 4090 picked up </FONT></DIV> E <DIV><FONT face=3DArial size=3D2>now have some emulex (Ugh) servers =  16-32 ports=20( old---tossing out this week</FONT></DIV>F <DIV><FONT face=3DArial size=3D2>free if anyone wants them-will also = have some old=20F dechub equipmen-such as servers and switches....if interested email=20 me</FONT></DIV></BODY></HTML>   - ------=_NextPart_000_01D0_01C11F46.87249D20--    ------------------------------  $ Date: Tue, 7 Aug 2001 11:29:59 +0200> From: "Jean-Francois Marchal" <jean-francois.marchal@x9000.fr>* Subject: fms - prototype definitions for C. Message-ID: <9koc42$a14$1@reader1.imaginet.fr>  D I was looking for the FMS form driver prototypes include file for C,4 but I didn't find it... Should I change my glasses ?   Jean-Franois Marchal  X9000 - LYON (FR)    ------------------------------   Date: 7 Aug 2001 10:03:35 -0700 1 From: nothome@spammers.are.scum (Malcolm Dunnett)   Subject: Help, PWS500 locked up., Message-ID: <YI27b+qNDk8Y@malvm5.mala.bc.ca>  L  I have a PWS 500a running VMS 7.2-1 ( with most of the patches installed ).  E  Today it was running along fine when it "locked up" ( ie all visible H signs of activity ceased ). It dropped out of the cluster. There were noG messages logged to the console. A ^P on the console terminal didn't get G me the >>>. I thus wasn't able to get a crash dump. After rebooting (by G hitting the reset switch ) I checked the error log, but there's nothing 	 in there.   H  Does the refusal to respond to the console signal a hardware problem orE could software cause this ( eg looping at a very high IPL ). How does = one go about diagnosing this when you can't get a crash dump?    ------------------------------  % Date: Tue, 07 Aug 2001 18:28:50 +0200 = From: Arne =?iso-8859-1?Q?Vajh=F8j?= <arne.vajhoej@gtech.com>  Subject: Re: Move to Sun) Message-ID: <3B701742.920E4285@gtech.com>    Jack Peacock wrote: E > Is Sun offering some kind of special  program for developers now on E > Alpha/VMS?  Is there someone at Sun (US) who can be contacted about H > this?  I have an immediate and urgent need to port a large applicationD > from VMS to Solaris in a very short time frame.  Has any other VMSH > developer contacted Sun about this?  I tried the website but all I got: > was how wonderful the company is, no useful information.  9 If it is an option, then I would recommend porting to AIX  instead of Solaris.    Arne   ------------------------------  $ Date: Tue, 7 Aug 2001 17:41:57 +0800 From: "gt" <nospam@enw.cx>* Subject: Re: Owner's manual for vaxstation1 Message-ID: <3b6fb763$0$374@echo-01.iinet.net.au>   ; I have a manual for the VAXstation 4000 VLC here (DEC doc # K EK-VAXVL-OG.B01), and to boot from an alternate console it says you need to 6 switch the switch marked "S3" to the ON (up) position.K I seem to recall that the 4000-60 is the same as this, have a look for a S3 C switch next to the halt button on the front. This switch is read on L power-up, and it makes the comms port the console. Set your terminal to 9600 baud. E FWIW I also quote "If the console prompt (>>>) does not appear on the ? terminal screen, press the Break key on the terminal keyboard."   
 good luck, gt  : "John Forkosh" <forkosh@panix6.panix.com> wrote in message# news:9kmovq$52k$1@news.panix.com...  > : > I may be getting my hands on a vaxstation 4000 model 60,0 > but without an owner's manual (and I don't see9 > any relevant information at decus.org or montagar.com). 3 > Is there any source for this kind of information? 9 >      In particular, I'd like to be able to boot it from : > its serial port with a null modem cable attached to a pc6 > running a terminal emulator.  Is that possible?  Any > jumpers need to be set, etc? <snip>   ------------------------------  # Date: Tue, 07 Aug 2001 11:52:58 GMT , From: peterw@u.genie.co.uk (Peter Watkinson)O Subject: Re: Regional VMS employment status ?, was: Re: VMS expertise available 6 Message-ID: <3b6fd651.1502140@news.cable.ntlworld.com>  
 For the UK   do a search on     http://www.jobserve.com    type in VMS + London  	 typically    25 jobs per day   	  regards,        Peter Watkinson  peterw@u.genie.co.uk http://www.pwnavigate.com/% http://www.windsurf-international.com  http://you.genie.co.uk/peterw/   ------------------------------  . Date: Tue, 7 Aug 2001 08:22:55 +0200 (MET DST)& From: Rudolf Wingert <win@fom.fgan.de>= Subject: Re: Suggested DCPS features (was OpenVMS  + Itanium) 6 Message-ID: <200108070622.IAA13161@sinet1.fom.fgan.de>   Hello,   Paul Anderson wrotes:    >>> @ What functions would this DCPS GUI perform?  Should this be an X= Windows, character cell full-screen or command procedure-type 
 interface? <<<   K It should be possible to use the printer feature in the normal way via DCPS J for the Guru's or people who knows all the printer features. For all otherG (normal users), there should be a GUI like the windows GUI. Within this I GUI (may be X11) the user can select the printer, click on the properties K and can enable the features he want and the printer have. E.g: I would like G to print on the LN20 with the highresolution option. Today I must use a G prefix file, or TELNET to change the printers properties. That is a way J for people with the knowledge. Normal user would call PRINT/INTERFACE=GUI,7 then select the LN20 with the highresolution set to on.   C Using PPD's would allow the programer to build a printer indepedent C print symbiont. All information, which must be known will be stored C within the PPDs (Printer Product Description). In case of this DCPS E could support all printers having a PPD. Northlake Software did build E the PRINTKIT 2.2 for OpenVMS (This is the version I know). Other then C the predesessor (V2.1) this version uses standard PPDs, so that youVD not need to change the standard PPDs. Our problem with this PRINTKITD was, that we did have an unlimited license with the version 2.1, butE with the version 2.2 the restricted the license to one server and one B printer. Getting a license for more printers and servers, where to expensive for us.m   Regards Rudolf Wingert  F P.S. Hello Paul, if you would like to know more about my wishes, speak. with Warren Viertel. He knows more about this.   ------------------------------  $ Date: Tue, 7 Aug 2001 00:55:24 -07005 From: "John Gemignani, Jr." <john@REMOVETHISossc.net>i( Subject: Re: trapping telnet disconnects6 Message-ID: <vyKb7.99239$%7.626414@news6.giganews.com>  J You could run it on a VTA.  When disconnected, the session should continueI to run on the VTA.  I believe that you can intercept the disconnect event H using an associated mailbox with the SYS$INPUT assignment.  This way you% will know that your terminal is gone.0   -John@  7 "Ferry Bolhar" <bol@adv.magwien.gv.at> wrote in message 1 news:997094422.938180@mozart.adv.magwien.gv.at...X > Jack Peacock schrieb:r > >hJ > > After some experimenting it appears that an exit handler using $DCLEXHJ > > will not trap a telnet disconnect.  I assume this means the process isG > > terminated by a $DELPRC instead of a $FORCEX.  Am I correct in thatLI > > there is no mechanism for a process running on a telnet connection to L > > continue running after the connection has been dropped from the user endJ > > (i.e. PC users close the telnet window instead of logging out)?  WouldB > > it be possible to trap this at the system level using callback > > facilities in LOGIN/LOGOUT?o > J > IIRC, if you declare the exit handler in kernel mode, it will be invokedJ > even when the process is killed with a $DELPRC. However, there is no wayF > to survive a $DELRPC - when the exit handler terminates, the processB > continues to cleanup (the exit handler is invoked as part of the0 > cleanup), resulting in final process deletion. >: > Greetings, Ferry >  > -- > Ing. Ferry Bolhar-Nordenkampfc > Municipality of Vienna > Municipality Department 14 > A-1010 Viennar > E-mail: bol@adv.magwien.gv.at  >u< > "Wenn hier einer schuld ist, dann immer nur der Computer."   ------------------------------   Date: 6 Aug 2001 21:58:25 -0700r& From: robyoung@my-deja.com (Rob Young)! Subject: Re: VMS 7.3 experiences? = Message-ID: <9c40b5bf.0108062058.744bcc53@posting.google.com>n  V cmcgav@ionet.net wrote in message news:<bbltmt44uv2t2njmqmch61b59d457lnnqm@4ax.com>...E > On 2 Jul 2001 12:08:23 -0500, young_r@encompasserve.org (Rob Young)g > wrote: > Z > >In article <C2256A7D.004AA3C1.00@jklh21.valmet.com>, norm.raphael@jamesbury.com writes: > >>   > >>  	 > >> Tom,s > >>  I > >> According to the cover letter for V7.3, V6.2 is _not_ supported in au > >> migration-modesU > >> (or any other mode) with V7.3.  I have been told this is at least partly because  > >> of I > >> mount hangs with volume shadowing on one of the Field Test releases.c > >> r@ > >> Do you have any experience with this, positive or negative. > >> m > >eF > >	Last week I booted an Alpha into a VAX 6.2 cluster.  Alpha runningB > >	7.2-1 with latest SYS patch (but not the very latest, the one ? > >	updated Thursday or so?).  Mounted disks not in use, copieduK > >	those files, that's easy.  But I also mounted and copied all files off sK > >	a VAX based shadowset.  Worked like a charm.  One datapoint does not a .K > >	case make.  Your mileage may vary.  And the Alpha was removed from the  ! > >	cluster after this operation.h > >t
 > >				Rob >  > F > Well, we are installing a new DS20E system, and did some simple timeC > trials with a batch application that does a good mix of reads andS	 > writes.m > ; > The disks were served by an HSG80 dual controller system.e >  > HSG caching turned off >  > 7.2-1    No VIOC        6min > 7.2-1    VIOC cache   4min' > 7.3      New XFC cache   9min!!!!    o >  > HSG caching turned onD > > > 7.2-1   VIOC cache, HSG cache                      2min 1sec= > 7.3      New XFC cache, HSG cache               2min 20 secw > F > Needless to say we were surprised and disappointed by the results..  > G > Plus the IO's reported by the 7.3 runs were much higher than the IO'snC > from the 7.2-1 runs. CPU time and buffered were nearly identical.  > @ > Also all drives would only mount under VIOC compatibilty mode. > C > Any ideas? I used the same settings for the 7.3 test as it was anR) > upgraded copy of the 7.2-1 system disk.b  9 There is so much here... first, XFC will do pre-fetching:n  @ http://www.openvms.compaq.com:8000/73final/6017/6017pro_077.html  E In an OpenVMS Cluster, different nodes can use different data caches.eD This allows mixed architecture clusters to benefit from XFC. OpenVMSF Alpha nodes can use either XFC or VIOC. OpenVMS VAX nodes can use only% VIOC, as described in Section 18.5.6.E  E XFC improves I/O performance and contains the following features thatr are not available with VIOC:   Read-ahead caching v  Automatic resizing of the cache  Larger maximum cache size : No limit on the number of closed files that can be cached 8 Control over the maximum size of I/O that can be cached 7 Control over whether cache memory is static or dynamic s   ---m  A So this tells us all your I/O is random.  Or is it?  When you sayl "cacheF turned off on the HSG80s", you mean write-back cache?  You didn't turn offt' read cache?  When using XFC, what does:-   $ analyze/system SDA> XFC SHOW SUMMARY-   reveal?a   I am peeling through:l  8 http://www.decus.gr.jp/decus99/sessioncd/NOTES/OV166.PDF  E Slide seventeen shows how you can zoom in on individual files, locateo thes) file id on a directory/full filename.ext;h   then in SDA:  D SDA> XFC SHOW FILE/ID=xxx  ! Converted to hex, see slide for details  E With both VIOC and XFC, what are your hit rates:  show memory/cache ?    To a another PDF of Ian's:  8 http://www.decus.gr.jp/decus99/sessioncd/NOTES/OV167.PDF  B look at individual files with less detail, but mostly good enough:  6 $ show mem/cache/file=(device:[directory]filename.ext)  / Slide 32 shows that IO latency is less for XFC.C  F However, on slide 33, we see VIOC outperforming XFC for reads to small@ files, 1000 block file , 100000 I/Os and VIOC takes 3 minutes 54 seconds, XFC takes 4 minutes 14 seconds.t  A The tables are turned drastically in slide 34.  1.5 million blockE file, A 300000 I/Os and XFC takes 17 minutes, 36 seconds... VIOC takes 50E minutesF 24 seconds.N  F So what is going on?  You have small files, guess #1.  Second guess is thatE you somehow aren't doing the same thing.  To report that you had much  higher: I/Os on the 7.3 runs on the face of it doesn't make sense.  F Outline what you are doing, how you are doing it , size of files , XFC stats$ before and after, etc. etc.   F Basically, not enough to go on.  By the time there is, you may have it figured. out :-)p   RobM   ------------------------------  % Date: Tue, 07 Aug 2001 17:26:12 +0200o+ From: Andreas Nastke <nastke@gdp-group.com>l) Subject: Re: VMS LK-xxx Terminal Emulatore- Message-ID: <3B700894.70813C62@gdp-group.com>   B i vaguely remember something like 'vmsterm' as a x-term init file.         Freddy Meerwaldt schrieb:N >  > Hi!T > H > Perhaps it is slightly off-topic here, but it has something to do withC > VMS - and this Newsgroup is the best resource for such questions:  > , > Is there anything like KEA! Term for Unix?L > KEA! Term is only available for this old-school style Windows, but not for > modern Unixes.L > I've already tried playing around with xterm initialization files, but hadL > no luck so far. What I want is a Terminal Emulator for Unix which supportsK > the PF[1-4] Keys, and just allows me to play around with VMS as I were ono > the local console. > And an additional question:aJ > I've searched the Net for this and was unable to find anything, so it is% > likely that this one doesn't exist.sH > Unfortunately I havn't found a web page listing the Control Characters > for these keys._B > So if someone could post a list with the control characters for: > L > Backspace, PF[1-4], Find, Insert here, Remove, Select, Do, Help, and other4 > keys which may differ from the normal PeeCee Keys. > F > If I have the appropriate control chars, I'd be able to write such a > program myself.e > / > Greetings and many thanks in advance - Freddy  > --P > Geek Code 3.1: GCS s+: a--- C+++ UBOU+++ P-- E--- W++ N w--- V++ PGP- t? 5? tv > L > ==========================================================================@ >  Frederik Meerwaldt           Homepage: http://www.freddym.orgE >  Bavaria/Germany              OpenVMS and Unix Howtos and much more_K >  Solaris, HP/UX, AIX, NetBSD, OpenBSD, IRIX, Tru64, OpenVMS, Ultrix, BeOS    ------------------------------  % Date: Tue, 07 Aug 2001 05:55:26 +0200m2 From: martin@radiogaga.harz.de (Martin Vorlaender) Subject: Re: WHO ARE YOU forum?c; Message-ID: <3b6f66ae.524144494f47414741@radiogaga.harz.de>l  ! norm.raphael@jamesbury.com wrote:o1 > Didier.Morandi@gmx.ch on 08/06/2001 05:32:44 AMe+ > > PALADIN@209-16-45-102.insync.net wrote:TG > > > Here's a site for the younger readers who might not have heard of ) > > > the "Have Gun, Will Travel" series:s > > >s/ > > >    http://www.dynanet.com/hgwt/index.htmln > >eL > > Better late than never, I heard about Douglas Adams when he left us last@ > > May. So, I jumped on the HHGTTG serie book and... I love it. >08 > I believe there is a pc game for HHGTTG.  Don't Panic!  @ Yes. It's a text adventure thingie by Infocom. And Douglas Adams? participated in the making. For some time it was available in atA compilation called "The Lost Treasures of Infocom". In the second"F compilation there also is a Doug Adams adventure called "Bureaucracy".   cu,p   Martin -- sD                        |  Martin Vorlaender  |  VMS & WNT programmer1   OpenVMS: When you    |  work: mv@pdv-systeme.deeE   KNOW where you want  |     http://www.pdv-systeme.de/users/martinv/ 8   to go today.         |  home: martin@radiogaga.harz.de   ------------------------------   End of INFO-VAX 2001.436 ************************