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 Business LInk  Re: Help, PWS500 locked up.  Re: HELP..VMSer in UNIX land/ Re: How to build a bootable media for a 11/780?  Re: Microsoft and Code red% Re: REQ: VMS Baseball Cap (Help Sue?) 4 Re: Suggested DCPS features (was OpenVMS  + Itanium)4 Re: Suggested DCPS features (was OpenVMS  + Itanium) UNIX-cd product distribution= Re: very nice message also room for feedback on this web site   F ----------------------------------------------------------------------  # Date: Tue, 07 Aug 2001 20:09:05 GMT & From: "john nixon" <jnixon@cfl.rr.com> Subject: Business LInk< Message-ID: <BVXb7.4469$eg1.1371547@typhoon.tampabay.rr.com>  I It appears that they have killed DBL.  I am trying to work up some budget K requests for next year, but without Business link, I cannot even  provide a E good guess at how much I will need.  Without cost estimates, I cannot I evaluate potential alternatives.  I cannot estimate how much money we can K save by trading old equipment for new equipment.  If I cannot make informed K purchase recommendations for new equipment  then half my job is impossible.   I Maybe I should just ask my Reseller to work up my budget requests for me.   L Maybe I am crazy for looking up Alpha prices anyway.  Maybe I should do likeA Compaq wants and go ahead and start buying Intel systems now with K Micro$shaft software.  Now, can anyone recommend a good vendor?  Preferably L one that does not handle Compaq systems!  ( I checked the FAQ.  It wasn't in there).    ------------------------------  $ Date: Tue, 7 Aug 2001 20:15:13 -04009 From: "D.B. Turner, islandco.com" <dbturner@islandco.com> $ Subject: Re: Help, PWS500 locked up./ Message-ID: <tn10mn23m2jia9@news.supernews.com>    Maybe heat ?   Was it one of ours ?   DT   -- David Turner   We sell Alpha's & Alpha Parts  http://www.islandco.com  sales@islandco.com Island Computers US Corp.  2700 Gregory Street  Savannah GA 31404  Tel: 912 447 6622  Fax: 912 201 0096   < Malcolm Dunnett <nothome@spammers.are.scum> wrote in message& news:kbW5IINe$75V@malvm6.mala.bc.ca... > In articleA <rdeininger-0708011451510001@user-2ive6lk.dialup.mindspring.com>, 9 >    rdeininger@mindspring.com (Robert Deininger) writes:  > J > > In article <YI27b+qNDk8Y@malvm5.mala.bc.ca>, nothome@spammers.are.scum > > (Malcolm Dunnett) wrote: > > D > >>  I have a PWS 500a running VMS 7.2-1 ( with most of the patches installed ). > > J > >>  Does the refusal to respond to the console signal a hardware problem orJ > >> could software cause this ( eg looping at a very high IPL ). How doesB > >> one go about diagnosing this when you can't get a crash dump? > > K > > Our PWS systems often do this.  (Well, they rarely crash, but when they  doH > > this is the most common situation.) I think they are looping at high IPL./ > > Ctrl-P and the reset button have no effect.  > > C >     I solved the first part of the problem ( thanks to the CSC ).  > J >     To force a halt on a PWS you have to remove the cover. On the systemF > board at the same level as the top DIMM connector and to the rear ofE > the system is a small momentary action push button. Pushing this in G > will get you the >>> at which point you can type CRASH to get a crash  > dump.  > K >     As to why it hung in the first place, that is still an open question.  >    ------------------------------   Date: 7 Aug 2001 18:13 PDT+ From: rankin@eql14.caltech.edu (Pat Rankin) % Subject: Re: HELP..VMSer in UNIX land 0 Message-ID: <7AUG200118132803@eql14.caltech.edu>  , In article <3B7048A3.96D63AED@softapp.com>,\/  Fletcher Hearns <hearns@softapp.com> writes...  [...]  > "This is line 1"  becomes  > "ABC This is line 1 XYZ" [...]    With awk, either1   awk '{print "ABC " $0 " XYZ"}' <infile >outfile  or1   awk '{print "ABC", $0, "XYZ"}' <infile >outfile > would do it.  The solution with sed should be equally trivial,: and it is probably the most appropriate Unix tool for this; simple job, but I'd have to look at its man page to get the  right syntax....  2                 Pat Rankin, rankin@eql.caltech.edu   ------------------------------  % Date: Wed, 08 Aug 2001 02:00:52 -0000  From: sword7@speakeasy.org8 Subject: Re: How to build a bootable media for a 11/780?/ Message-ID: <tn17ak59dept45@corp.supernews.com>   I Well, I am writing my initial VAX-11/780 emulator with Massbus interface  I (for RMx/RPx/TMx drives).  I was able to run VMB.EXE on it and its debug  J log file showed that VMB is trying to load SYSBOOT.EXE from Massbus drive H #0 on TR#0 slot.  I can take files from my OpenVMS v7.2 CD and create a  virtual disk image for it.  @ What files do I need to put on the virtual disk image to boot?  / VMB.EXE, SYSBOOT.EXE, stand-alone backups, etc.   F I was surprised to notice that OpenVMS v7.2 does not support a 11/780 - machine.  I believe that it should work fine.   
 Thank you!   -- Tim Stark   --  , Timothy Stark	<><	Inet: sword7@speakeasy.orgJ --------------------------------------------------------------------------F "For God so loved the world, that he gave his only begotten Son, that H whosoever believeth in him should not perish, but have everlasting life.. Amen." -- John 3:16 (King James Version Bible)   ------------------------------  $ Date: Tue, 7 Aug 2001 19:40:08 -0400+ From: "John Saunders" <jws@ma.ultranet.com> # Subject: Re: Microsoft and Code red + Message-ID: <9kpu9k$jri$1@bob.news.rcn.net>   : "JF Mezei" <jfmezei.spamnot@videotron.ca> wrote in message& news:3B7025D6.D589851E@videotron.ca... > "Doc.Cypher" wrote: I > > In the case of the Code Red worm, the fault could be said to lie with K > > customers. This is because M$ had issued a patch for the expoit a month  orL > > two ago. Of course, you can always blame M$ for failing to have adequateG > > quality management and testing of their product in the first place.  >  > L > from what I was told, many customers don't even realise that ISS starts upL > whenever they boot. If that is the case, why have chosen to start software by5 > default unless the user specifically requested it ?   L If that's true, then they are fairly clueless customers. IIS doesn't installL by default on Windows 2000 Professional, and if someone's going to run an OSI with "Server" in its name, they should probably be clueful enough to know E what they're running. I mean, did they just not ever wonder what that H "inetserver.exe" process was, or did they not figure out how to run Task Manager to see the process?   L > secondly, the fact that the web server can execute stuff that is dangerous isL > an indication that the architecture of the server is flawed. When you look atE > the OSU web server, it was designed specifically to run without any F > significant privileges to protect the system. And correct me if I am wrong,G > but I am under the impression that a process on VMS cannot change its J > privileges to "conveniently" gain SYSPRV or BYPASS just by overflowing a buffer.   B There are servers on OpenVMS which run with privileges. Some couldL conceivably be compromised by a buffer overflow exploit. Do they necessarilyI have a flawed architecture? Would the architecture still be flawed if the  same code ran without privs?  L > When companies provided outside access to their machines via dialup, greatI > care and paranoia was made to prevent abuse of their systems. And tests  would I > be made to ensure system security was assured. Yet, large companies now  deployG > that ISS thing without really testing the security aspect to the same  extent5 > that they did for dialup lines in the previous era.    How do you know what they test?   I And did you know that the overflow was in a plug-in (idq.dll), not in IIS . itself? (Same product, so still little excuse)  I > Sort of funny that a company which used to be so paranoid as to prevent  the C > use of "INQUIRE" on VMS because inquire would execute some symbol B > substitutions, but they woudl today be running IIS without fear.  I And if they had patched their systems when Microsoft told them to, before 3 Code Red existed, they wouldn't have had a problem.  --
 John Saunders  jws@ma.ultranet.com    ------------------------------  % Date: Tue, 07 Aug 2001 22:21:43 +0200 < From: Jan-Erik =?iso-8859-1?Q?S=F6derholm?= <noone@home.com>. Subject: Re: REQ: VMS Baseball Cap (Help Sue?)( Message-ID: <3B704DD7.E9BF4010@home.com>   Hm... 6 I keep getting "Zip/Postal Code or State invalid", but we don't have those in Sweden.   What to do ?   Regards  Jan-Erik Sderholm   Hoff Hoffman wrote:  > F >   Connect to www.openvms.compaq.com, select the "portal" link on theF >   upper left of the page, then select the estore link (bottom right,H >   IIRC).  Yes, you do need to access the store via the Compaq website.   ------------------------------  % Date: Tue, 07 Aug 2001 15:52:20 -0400 - From: JF Mezei <jfmezei.spamnot@videotron.ca> = Subject: Re: Suggested DCPS features (was OpenVMS  + Itanium) , Message-ID: <3B7046E6.52CCA0BB@videotron.ca>   Robert Deininger wrote: G > That's not the way printers work on our Macs.  The postscript printer I > dialog box is almost identical in every application.  Some applications F > add 1 additional panel to the stuff provided by the standard driver.  M Ever used Freehand or illustrator ? Ever used Quark or page maker ? Those are E "postscript" applications and their print dialogues are significantly + different from those of basic applications.    ------------------------------  % Date: Tue, 07 Aug 2001 18:00:22 -0400 2 From: rdeininger@mindspring.com (Robert Deininger)= Subject: Re: Suggested DCPS features (was OpenVMS  + Itanium) L Message-ID: <rdeininger-0708011800230001@user-2iveaje.dialup.mindspring.com>  5 In article <3B7046E6.52CCA0BB@videotron.ca>, JF Mezei % <jfmezei.spamnot@videotron.ca> wrote:    > Robert Deininger wrote: I > > That's not the way printers work on our Macs.  The postscript printer K > > dialog box is almost identical in every application.  Some applications H > > add 1 additional panel to the stuff provided by the standard driver. > O > Ever used Freehand or illustrator ? Ever used Quark or page maker ? Those are G > "postscript" applications and their print dialogues are significantly - > different from those of basic applications.   E Nope, none of those.  Clearly a Mac application can skip the standard J printing interface completely if it wants to.  Or it can use the standard,4 perhaps with application-specific "extras" added on.   --   Robert Deininger rdeininger@mindspring.com    ------------------------------  $ Date: Tue, 7 Aug 2001 13:55:16 -0400) From: "Robert Ricci" <ricci_r@subway.com> % Subject: UNIX-cd product distribution 4 Message-ID: <01fe01c11f6a$1d73b040$635b5cc0@isricci>  , This is a multi-part message in MIME format.  + ------=_NextPart_000_01FB_01C11F48.962380A0  Content-Type: text/plain;  	charset="iso-8859-1" + Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable   F HAve    compaq/dec software product library and documentation libray =H product distribution cd's fot the last seversl years for Unix and True =6 64 - free if anyone interested email me cleaning houseE also complete set of Vax/VMS 5.5 documentation set about 40 binders =  worth  thanks  + ------=_NextPart_000_01FB_01C11F48.962380A0  Content-Type: text/html; 	charset="iso-8859-1" + Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable   > <!DOCTYPE HTML PUBLIC "-//W3C//DTD HTML 4.0 Transitional//EN"> <HTML><HEAD>7 <META http-equiv=3DContent-Type content=3D"text/html; =  charset=3Diso-8859-1">9 <META content=3D"MSHTML 5.50.4522.1800" name=3DGENERATOR>  <STYLE></STYLE>  </HEAD>  <BODY bgColor=3D#ffffff>D <DIV><FONT face=3DArial size=3D2>HAve&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp; compaq/dec = software product=20 I library and documentation libray product distribution cd's fot the last = 
 seversl=20J years for Unix and True 64 - free if anyone interested email me cleaning =   house</FONT></DIV>C <DIV><FONT face=3DArial size=3D2>also complete set of Vax/VMS 5.5 =  documentation set=20# about 40 binders worth</FONT></DIV> B <DIV><FONT face=3DArial size=3D2>thanks</FONT></DIV></BODY></HTML>  - ------=_NextPart_000_01FB_01C11F48.962380A0--    ------------------------------  # Date: Tue, 07 Aug 2001 23:54:00 GMT # From: ualski <ualski@earthlink.net> F Subject: Re: very nice message also room for feedback on this web site- Message-ID: <3B707F84.DF88CF11@earthlink.net>    JF Mezei wrote:  >  > ualski wrote: O > > Not to nit-pick but in the context of US Government acquisition, Commercial Q > > Off The Shelf, or COTS, simply means something from a commercial vendors that L > > isn't specially built or significantly modified to meet the requirements( > > the item is being purchased against. > W > Good point. But the statement was from Compaq so the military slant isn't as obvious.  > O > Besides, with Alpha officially on its death bed, one could argue that the few N > remaining sales in the next few years will not be "off the shelf" but rather! > custom built for each customer.   P While I may not know much about the subject, I wouldn't agree entirely with thatR statement.  I figure that most customers buy systems that are pretty much straightP out of a catalogue hardware - no special intervention by DEQ.  I suppose that asO the end of the line for Alpha approaches, the selection of Alpha configurations M might get a little slim but the transition to IA64 should be well underway by S then (ie, everything goes as planned).  With a few assumptions on ease of migration S of software to IA64/OpenVMS, what I think would be neat is drop-in replacements for O what will then be older Alpha systems, where the form factor and interfaces are P identical to the Alpha the system is replacing.  Who knows what J-STARS is doingN with their newly acquired systems, but I'll bet they chose VMS first and Alpha/ just happened to be what it runs on these days.    -- Aaron Sliwinski  F PS.  I've always thought of Northrop as a good, practical company thatI makes decisions on engineering principles and not the latest trends.  I'm F using their announced choice as data to support my view.  Oh yeah, the" iron works falls in with that too.   ------------------------------   End of INFO-VAX 2001.437 ************************