1 INFO-VAX	Thu, 16 Aug 2001	Volume 2001 : Issue 454       Contents:( Re: Alpha:  an invitation to communicate An ad Compaq should print  Re: Compaq (CNET - 15-AUG-2001) < RE: Could VMS be a desktop OS? (was: The Alpha Systems CustoP Re: Free DEC/CPQ supplied terminal emulators, was: Re: Free VT terminal emulator Re: Good VMS news = Re: I just have to post this - and apoligse later Alpha/Intel  Re: intel we site  Re: intel we site  Re: intel we site + RE: Introduction and BACKUP recommendations  Re: Linker-Warnings in VMS 7.3 Re: Linker-Warnings in VMS 7.3P Re: NUMA Performance of "Certain base OS features" in QBB0 - Which features are  Oracle RDB "FATALOSI" 7 Re: OT: Citroen C5 Re: AMD and Samsung could save Alpha 7 Re: OT: Citroen C5 Re: AMD and Samsung could save Alpha " Printing in different output trays Printing on HP8550 Color Laser Printing Through A Firewall = Serve X(DEC)Window display from system w/ no graphics device. A Re: Serve X(DEC)Window display from system w/ no graphics device. ! Re: Storageworks - more bad news. & Re: The VMS Opensource Porting ProjectP Re: Unix sys admins storing Unix logs on VMS systems ?, was: Re: An ad Compaq sh  F ----------------------------------------------------------------------    Date: 16 Aug 2001 10:27:39 -07003 From: utlonghornsrule@yahoo.com (Newbie JrSysAdmin) 1 Subject: Re: Alpha:  an invitation to communicate = Message-ID: <2de05464.0108160927.3967b436@posting.google.com>   e name99@mac.com (Maynard Handley) wrote in message news:<name99-1508011239000001@handma2.apple.com>... > > In article <5lhevaw76b.fsf@rum.cs.yale.edu>, "Stefan MonnierC > <foo@acm.com>" <monnier+comp.arch/news/@flint.cs.yale.edu> wrote:  > ? > > >>>>> "Maynard" == Maynard Handley <name99@mac.com> writes: K > > > As that revenue stream flows into the company, it may be disbursed to P > > > shareholders as dividends, or it may be used to grow the company business,K > > > or it may be used to invest in other companies, or it may be used for K > > > empire building to grow the company into unrelated businesses. All of J > > > these behaviors will have apologists; some have justification in taxM > > > avoidance. Any halfway decent finance book will tell you about why they N > > > occur and when they usually are or are not a good deal for shareholders. > > F > > In the case where no dividend is payed, it seems that the only wayM > > in which something can be beneficial to shareholders is when it increases K > > the value of those shares.  So shareholders buy such stock only because L > > they hope that something will happen that will make other people believeE > > that the share is worth more.  Sounds very much like poker to me.  > >  > D > Not at all. The money is (at least assuming management are neitherH > fraudulent nor incompetent) used to increase the value of the company,I > either through purchases of real objects (buildings, computers, factory L > eqipment) or by paying people to come up with IP owned by the company (forG > example whatever you may think of MS and Windows, the money they have K > spent internally on developing Windows has resulted in a product owned by % > them that is worth a lot of money).  > K > There is always the option for a company simply to disband and the assets I > (after clearing all senior debt) to be returned to the stockholdes, and H > that has happened. However generally, of course, the valuation to bookE > value ratio of a company is higher than 1 because it is believed by K > stiockholders that the company (as a brand, as a collection of expertise, K > as a group of employees who know each other and have some clue as to what B > they are doing) is worth more than simply gutting it for assets. > 	 > Maynard     F and ALL of this is based on a false model of the representation of theE interests of shareholders by the board of directors. there is no such C "altruism," and board directors care only about themsevles. what is C missing is a mechanism to keep them from plundering the company for E their individual gain (ie, stealing the money they don't pay out as a F dividend and leaving the shareholders with nothing). this is where the@ republican party comes in, because the sec is known by all to beB toothless with republicans in charge. it's no coincidence ordinaryC investors are screwed whenever a bush gets in the white house. they A know they are helpless so they are taking their marbles and going E home. and the guys on tv can yap all they want, trolling for whatever ; bullshit sticks, but it ain't working again. the prices are = collapsing, and these corporation are, in effect, being taken & "private" by their executive officers.   ------------------------------  # Date: Thu, 16 Aug 2001 10:29:39 GMT  From: paul@wren.cc.kux.edu" Subject: An ad Compaq should print2 Message-ID: <3b7b9faf.573525986@news.cc.ukans.edu>  C Usenix security presenters tell Unix sys admins to store their Unix  logs on VMS systems.  + DefCon attendees (hackers and others) know:    VMS is "Cool and Unhackable"  * Shouldn't your "sensitive" data be on VMS?   ------------------------------  % Date: Thu, 16 Aug 2001 07:47:41 -0300 % From: <fabio_compaq@petrobras.com.br> ( Subject: Re: Compaq (CNET - 15-AUG-2001)L Message-ID: <OFC4033953.82676FE3-ON03256AAA.003AE5F3@ep-bc.petrobras.com.br>  H In my personal opinion, the Government of the USA gave to the companies=  C a brutal excess of freedom to do what they want with the companies, 
 employees,H and technolgies.  The Gov. should PUT limits in this "commercial freedo= m".    Regards    F=E1bio Cardoso     H                                                                        =            =20H                     "Bill Todd"                                        =            =20H                     <billtodd@foo        Para:   Info-VAX@Mvb.Saic.Com =            =20H                     .mv.com>             cc:                           =            =20H                                          Assunto:     Re: Compaq (CNET = -          =20H                     15/08/2001           15-AUG-2001)                  =            =20H                     18:28                                              =            =20H                     Responder a                                        =            =20H                     "Bill Todd"                                        =            =20H                                                                        =            =20H                                                                        =            =20        0 <fabio_compaq@petrobras.com.br> wrote in messageF news:OF69DA92D9.DB4E15B6-ON03256AA9.0044904C@ep-bc.petrobras.com.br... Click   ? http://news.cnet.com/news/0-1276-210-6875986-1.html?tag=3Dbt_pr   H Good article, at least compared with the average.  I sent the following=   response, FWIW:     H Amazing!  This is the first even remotely-balanced article I've seen si= nce H Compaq's June 25th 'Alphacide' announcement.  But it still barely scrat= chesH the surface, so I still have to wonder whether investigative reporting = inH this industry actually exists and/or whether articles critical of a maj= or$ advertiser just don't get published.  B Reporting that Compaq sank 'tons of money' into Alpha without also	 reporting H that (as far as one can discern from quarterly and annual reports, thou= ghH Compaq makes this as difficult as it can) the Alpha business has been t= heH main contributor to Compaq's profits (such as they have been) for the p= ast H couple of years.  Those 'tons of money' seem to have been well-invested= ,  and H simply repeating the words of Compaq honchos like Mike Winkler or Compa= q H apologists like Terry Shannon (likely the source of the $250 million an= nualH figure; Winkler said it was $300 million, but was unlikely to have been=  H erring on the low side, while an eetimes article estimated it at half t= hat H figure) also deprives the reader of the context to determine whether th= atH figure seems unreasonably large or a real bargain (hint:  compare it wi= th> similar figures for Intel 32-bit and 64-bit chip development).  H And then there's the 21% drop in Compaq's 'vaunted enterprise computing=  H business'.  Aside from the fact that Compaq's vaunted PC revenue droppe= d  22% C in the same period, there's the fact that its 'enterprise' business  includesH Intel servers as well as Alpha (and Tandem) systems:  the financial rep= ortsH suggest that at least the main *profit* hit in that area came from Inte= l H servers due to the need for aggressive pricing - which in turn suggests=   thatE a major portion of the revenue decrease came from that sector as well H (especially as it seems to have been a major growth area last year unti= l  the  Internet 'bubble' burst).   H And dignifying Compaq's strategy as a 'carbon copy' of a firm (IBM) whi= chH has both feet solidly planted in its own proprietary processor hardware=  H (both mainframe and mid-range) and thus a solid entree into the 'serve = whatE we sell' business ignores the degree of differentiation and resulting F one-stop shopping leverage which IBM's proprietary systems provide.  A group H of us tried to convince Compaq to leverage its own unique products in a=  H similar manner over a year ago, but clearly no one was listening.  It m= akesH one wonder whether Pfeiffer had this in mind when he bought DEC - and t= hen + got ousted because the BoD had other plans.   H And finally, there's that suggestion that Itanium-plus (let alone Itani= umA with its pre-June-25th potential) will eventually eclipse Alpha's 
 potential.H To all appearances, that just won't happen:  the Itanium architecture i= s  far H less well-suited to high-end server use than Alpha's (for as far into t= heE future as one can see), and only promises approximate parity in a few F specialized areas.  Compaq, even after 3 years of neglect, still had aH potential world-beater in Alpha, had it ever decided to try to capitali= ze on+ (i.e., market and aggressively develop) it.   H But, as I said above, you won't read about any of this in the trade pre= ss. H If you want gory details, USENET newsgroups (especially comp.os.vms and=  H comp.arch, starting on June 25th and to some degree still under discuss= ion)+ are about the only places you'll find them.   	 Bill Todd 
 Strafford, NH              =    ------------------------------  % Date: Thu, 16 Aug 2001 09:07:39 -0500 * From: WILLIAM WEBB <WWEBB1@email.usps.gov>E Subject: RE: Could VMS be a desktop OS? (was: The Alpha Systems Custo - Message-ID: <0033000032436357000002L072*@MHS>   F =0AThe sysinternals.com guys used to have a great NT BSOD screen saverB that not only gave you a fake BSOD, but it "rebooted" your system,A pulling memory and NT Build/version information from your system, B and then giving you fake disk corruption messages as it "rebooted"   Great stuff.   WWWebb   > -----Original Message-----1 > From: Info-VAX-Request@Mvb.Saic.Com at INTERNET * > Sent: Wednesday, August 15, 2001 7:13 PMF > To: Webb, William W - Raleigh, NC; Info-VAX@Mvb.Saic.Com at INTERNETH > Subject: RE: Could VMS be a desktop OS? (was: The Alpha Systems Custo=   >  > 4 > In article <zzhe7.120$bB1.13754@news.cpqcorp.net>, > hoffman@xdelta.zko.dec.nospam % > (Hoff Hoffman) writes: > In article , > <0033000032253163000002L032*@MHS>, WILLIAM= > WEBB <WWEBB1@email.usps.gov> writes: > :IMHO the only thing  > that Windows can do  > that VMS cannot is BSOD. > > < > >   You clearly haven't seen the BSOD screen saver that is > available for ; > >   X Windows.  (One version of this screen saver rotates  > through the BSOD, > > >   the Mac bomb, and other similar displays.  No, I haven't > seen one that  > >   displays a bugcheck.)  > >  > 4 > Where can I get those screen savers for X Window ? >=   ------------------------------  % Date: Thu, 16 Aug 2001 11:51:46 +0200 - From: "Roland Hauk" <roland.hauk@indramat.de> Y Subject: Re: Free DEC/CPQ supplied terminal emulators, was: Re: Free VT terminal emulator - Message-ID: <9lg517$lib4@sunny.mannesmann.de>   = This free VT320 emulator in on your PATHWORKS CD at directory  "nosupprt\i386\vt320".  K It can be possible that you find more interested tools on your PATHWORKS CD  at directory "nosupprt\".    ------------------------------    Date: 16 Aug 2001 06:59:15 -0700< From: alphaman-nixspam@hsv.sungardtrust.com (Aaron Sakovich) Subject: Re: Good VMS news< Message-ID: <8af17fe1.0108160559.d1597c2@posting.google.com>  t Kilgallen@eisner.decus.org.nospam (Larry Kilgallen) wrote in message news:<NAIIbVERD94K@eisner.encompasserve.org>... : C > We could start a guessing game, based on the statement that it is  > applicable to all states.   C Guess?  GUESS???  Are we not men?  We are devo!  Uh, I mean, We are 6 professionals!  We don't need no steenkin' guessing!!!   Domain Name: CSDCO.COM   Registrant: + Computer Systems Design Company (CSDCO-DOM)     735 Highland Avenue    Boulder, CO 80302    US    <doh!> Aaron    ------------------------------  % Date: Fri, 10 Aug 2001 18:36:01 -0500 1 From: "David J. Dachtera" <djesys.nospam@fsi.net> F Subject: Re: I just have to post this - and apoligse later Alpha/Intel' Message-ID: <3B746FE1.616D2322@fsi.net>    Robert Deininger wrote:  > = > In article <3B73496A.614CDC07@fsi.net>, "David J. Dachtera"   > <djesys.nospam@fsi.net> wrote: > 6 > > >  VMS is committed to continue development on theG > > > GS and the next Alpha system and to move onto the Intel platform.  > > J > > Had Compaq said that, and little more, we would not be conducting this > > thread right now.  > H > But Compaq DID say that, I believe on the day of the big announcement. > Perhaps the next day.     ...but, they didn't stop there.   $ The rest, as they say, is history...   --   David J. Dachtera  dba DJE Systems  http://www.djesys.com/  ( Unofficial Affordable OpenVMS Home Page: http://www.djesys.com/vms/soho/    ------------------------------  % Date: Thu, 16 Aug 2001 17:45:35 +0200 , From: Didier Morandi <Didier.Morandi@gmx.ch> Subject: Re: intel we site& Message-ID: <3B7BEA9F.51B0C2AC@gmx.ch>   Sue Skonetski wrote: > M > Folks I have sent mail to the owner of this we site letting them know I can 0 > acess from internet explorer but not netscape.     Sue,  > I can access it very well from my Netscape brother on my iMac.   D.   ------------------------------  % Date: Thu, 16 Aug 2001 12:44:33 -0400 - From: JF Mezei <jfmezei.spamnot@videotron.ca>  Subject: Re: intel we site, Message-ID: <3B7BF870.21CF6FF3@videotron.ca>   Sue Skonetski wrote: >  > folks can you access this?? > http://www.compaq.com/hps/ipf-enterprise/customer_quotes.html   M I am puzzled. Usually, it is so hard to get customers to participate in their  Vendor's PR exercises.J Of course, ISVs such as SAS etc will gladly participate just to have their names printed.  I So what did Compaq do to these "customers" to make them release all these G statements so quickly ? Do they pay the guy or the company he works for  (rebates etc) ?     L What the existence of this page tells me though is that Compaq is very awareM that its decision to murder Alpha was not received very well by customers and W is trying to to sway their opinion by showing ahs many "positive" comments as possible.   ? I note that the Ellison (Oracle) testimony talks only of Tru64.   H I also note one of the testimonials stating that Compaq would focus on aJ single platform. Has Compaq announced it would drop the 8086 and sell onlyL IA64 based products ? What about its Strongarm IPaq, will it be converted to
 run on IA64 ?    ------------------------------  % Date: Thu, 16 Aug 2001 12:46:27 -0400 - From: JF Mezei <jfmezei.spamnot@videotron.ca>  Subject: Re: intel we site, Message-ID: <3B7BF8E1.B9A67B3F@videotron.ca>   Sue Skonetski wrote: > M > Folks I have sent mail to the owner of this we site letting them know I can 0 > acess from internet explorer but not netscape.A > > http://www.compaq.com/hps/ipf-enterprise/customer_quotes.html   C As of a few minutes ago, I had no problem reading the testimonials.    Macintosh, Netscape 4.76   ------------------------------  % Date: Thu, 16 Aug 2001 16:45:00 +0200 7 From: "Dijk, Jeroen van" <Jeroen.vanDijk@Getronics.com>04 Subject: RE: Introduction and BACKUP recommendationsO Message-ID: <2795B75EF003D311801A00A0C906B511011C6619@cucexec.gbc.getronics.nl>-   -----Original Message-----$ From: winston@SSRL.SLAC.STANFORD.EDU' [mailto:winston@SSRL.SLAC.STANFORD.EDU]e$ Sent: woensdag 15 augustus 2001 8:19 To: Info-VAX@Mvb.Saic.Com 4 Subject: Re: Introduction and BACKUP recommendations     > 9 >Also, we are running volume shadowing that was installed @ >last-minute, so if that backup procedure needs to be changed toC >reflect this I don't think the consultant did it.  Any wisdom here  >would be appreciated also.   L The only worry you need to have is that you are backuping the right volumes.. If the consultant was smart logicals are used.  S Shadow volumes have a disknames like $1$dsa100 where the members are something like = $1$dkb100 and $1$dkc100 the local could be some like disk100.iO Part "$1$" is the node name part that's if the sysgen parameter alloclass is 1.f[ If that is 0 the physical diskname changes to _jeroen$dsa100 if your node name is "jeroen".eB If the sysgen parameter  alloclass is 2 the name will be $2$dsa100T "d" character tells that it is a disk. The "k" or "s" character tells type of disk. S K states for Scsi disks. S states for shadowdisks. All this goes for Alpha systems,oA with the VAX systems there is a lot of more difference possible. nl The A of B stand for the different adapters, because you can have more then one scsi adapter in your system.    U This story is far from complete, but I hope this is the wisdom you were looking for. b    4 ****************************************************$ Getronics System Integration BV					 Business Continuity 								. Botter 15-90 			Telefoon  :	+31 320 266 314			) Postbus 2228 			Fax 	:	+31 320 266 219			t: 8203 AE  LELYSTAD 		E-mail 	:	Jeroen.vanDijk@getronics.com  6 **************** www.getronics.com *******************   ------------------------------    Date: 16 Aug 2001 01:29:22 -07009 From: lzoedv@cretschmar-logistik.de (M.Eismann&W.Richard)u' Subject: Re: Linker-Warnings in VMS 7.3 < Message-ID: <6d280ea8.0108160029.d71b5e9@posting.google.com>  [ John Reagan <john.reagan@compaq.com> wrote in message news:<3B7AA72E.8030003@compaq.com>...nH > I think we've got a difference in terminology.  You've just confirmed J > that you used to get linker warnings about PAS$ENVIRONMENT_TIME.  (I wasH > confused by previous statements that you received NO warnings at all.)B I mean that I received NO SUCH (!) NOMSG-warnings before... (Sorry) when I wrote down misleadingly words....)   pK > If you are willing to live with the PAS$ENVIRONMENT_TIME warnings (and I uJ > guess you are since you tolerated them on your V7.1-1H1 system), then I H > think you can just ignore the NOMSGs from the linker today.  When the @ > message file gets fixed, the NOMSGs will turn into the proper   > PAS$ENVIRONMENT_TIME messages.E I'm willing to live with the PAS$ENVIRONMENT_TIME warnings on V7.3 asbE on V7.1-1H1, because our application has not been affected by it. The A only reason of posting this topic to news:comp.os.vms was, that Ir@ could not imagine (and nobody else) what does the linker mean by& %LINK-W-NOMSG, Message number 0064A120& %LINK-W-NOMSG, Message number 0064A128& %LINK-W-NOMSG, Message number 0064A130 after migrating to V7.3...?! Now we know more...h  
 > John Reaganv > Compaq Pascal Project Leader   Cheers!o Martin Eismann OpenVMS Systemadmin. Oracle Rdb DBA & Developer   ------------------------------  % Date: Thu, 16 Aug 2001 13:22:01 -0400e* From: John Reagan <john.reagan@compaq.com>' Subject: Re: Linker-Warnings in VMS 7.3a' Message-ID: <3B7C0139.30409@compaq.com>s   M.Eismann&W.Richard wrote:G > I'm willing to live with the PAS$ENVIRONMENT_TIME warnings on V7.3 aseG > on V7.1-1H1, because our application has not been affected by it. TheeC > only reason of posting this topic to news:comp.os.vms was, that IeB > could not imagine (and nobody else) what does the linker mean by( > %LINK-W-NOMSG, Message number 0064A120( > %LINK-W-NOMSG, Message number 0064A128( > %LINK-W-NOMSG, Message number 0064A130 > after migrating to V7.3...?! > Now we know more...m >     E By the way, the problem has been identified and solved.  Besides the rB regular LINKER, there was a LINKER64 that shipped along with some I debugger (and Fortran?) kits during the V7.2 release cycle.  This linker nG contained some new support for Fortran common blocks in P2 space.  The tG support was folded into the V7.3 linker after it was tested.  However, eE the part of the OpenVMS build that  built the now-unneeded LINKER64, aI overwrote the update linker messages with an older copy.  This was fixed -F today in the build system.  I have no idea when it might be rolled up  into an ECO kit or the like.   John ReaganD Compaq Pascal Project Leader   ------------------------------    Date: 16 Aug 2001 18:46:12 +0200G From: Jan Vorbrueggen <jan@mailhost.neuroinformatik.ruhr-uni-bochum.de>sY Subject: Re: NUMA Performance of "Certain base OS features" in QBB0 - Which features are -H Message-ID: <y4bslgj6ln.fsf@mailhost.neuroinformatik.ruhr-uni-bochum.de>  L From the mention of QBB0 and therefore CPU0, I would assume anything tied toM CPU0. I/O data structures, lock manager data structures, SCS data structures,  possibly the PFN database, ...   	Jan   ------------------------------  % Date: Thu, 16 Aug 2001 07:59:26 -0300h% From: <fabio_compaq@petrobras.com.br>, Subject: Oracle RDB "FATALOSI"L Message-ID: <OFD7866A29.7C02BECB-ON03256AAA.003BF2A1@ep-bc.petrobras.com.br>  D We are having a FATALOSI error when trying to EXTRACT  the structure of a RDB database.E I've searched in the Oracle Metalink site, this newsgroup and I didnt 1 find any information related to this error below.d  H But we can extract the structure of the same database in another server,8 using the logical name, pointing to the another machine.  = The version of my OpenVMS is 7.1-2 and the Oracle RDB 7.0-31.o  H The version of the operating systems which worked the extract is OpenVMS 7.2  and the same Oracle RDB 7.0-31.     ) $ rmu/extract/item=all/out=afonso.sql bda ) %COSI-F-UNEXPERR, unexpected system error ; -SYSTEM-F-ACCVIO, access violation, reason mask=CC, virtual : address=000000000000001B, PC=0000000000000003, PS=7AF3FCF8A %RMU-F-FATALOSI, Fatal error from the Operating System Interface.=H %RMU-F-FTL_RMU, Fatal error for RMU operation at 15-AUG-2001 16:39:18.89       Regards=   FC   ------------------------------    Date: 16 Aug 2001 10:17:25 +0200G From: Jan Vorbrueggen <jan@mailhost.neuroinformatik.ruhr-uni-bochum.de>e@ Subject: Re: OT: Citroen C5 Re: AMD and Samsung could save AlphaH Message-ID: <y4elqcto4q.fsf@mailhost.neuroinformatik.ruhr-uni-bochum.de>  4 rdeininger@mindspring.com (Robert Deininger) writes:  > > > My BX (diesel) is 4/5 the way to the moon by its odometer.F > Can you buy diesel on the moon?  You may be in for a long walk home!  M Finding the oxygen to burn the diesel is going to be even harder - after all,u$ the car has a tank for the diesel...   	Jan   ------------------------------    Date: 16 Aug 2001 04:24:52 -05009 From: Kilgallen@eisner.decus.org.nospam (Larry Kilgallen) @ Subject: Re: OT: Citroen C5 Re: AMD and Samsung could save Alpha3 Message-ID: <Mus0Yy77zJZ1@eisner.encompasserve.org>i   In article <y4elqcto4q.fsf@mailhost.neuroinformatik.ruhr-uni-bochum.de>, Jan Vorbrueggen <jan@mailhost.neuroinformatik.ruhr-uni-bochum.de> writes:6 > rdeininger@mindspring.com (Robert Deininger) writes: > ? >> > My BX (diesel) is 4/5 the way to the moon by its odometer.vG >> Can you buy diesel on the moon?  You may be in for a long walk home!W > O > Finding the oxygen to burn the diesel is going to be even harder - after all,l& > the car has a tank for the diesel...  D Typical trip planning for the moon involves adding on a tank to hold@ liquid oxygen.  I think it is only available on the aftermarket.   ------------------------------    Date: 16 Aug 2001 06:35:56 -0700  From: nigl@efman.nl (Franc Nigl)+ Subject: Printing in different output trays = Message-ID: <7b613313.0108160535.5d722b02@posting.google.com>   	 Hi there,e  F We're using DCPS V1.8 and a HP 8150 (with 8 output trays) on a VMS 7.3F system. According to the specs it should be possible to print a job to7 different output trays (/PARAM=OUTPUT_TRAY=MAILBOX_xx).s  D According to my imagination I've tested everything I could think of.: $ print/que=<queuename>/notify/param=output_tray=mailbox_1 ...r; $ print/que=<queuename>/notify/param=output_tray=mailbox_01e ... : $ print/que=<queuename>/notify/param=output_tray=MAILBOX_1 ... < $ print/que=<queuename>/notify/param="output_tray=MAILBOX_1" ...p= $ print/que=<queuename>/notify/param="output_tray=mailbox_01"u  B The printer is connected to the DCPS-symbiont and I've checked theC channels with SDA; couldn't find any mailboxes over there though...o  > Could please somebody shed some light on this... as I'm out of
 options... (I know I'm very restricted)...r   Regards  Franc=   ------------------------------    Date: 16 Aug 2001 06:46:06 -0700  From: nigl@efman.nl (Franc Nigl)' Subject: Printing on HP8550 Color Lasere= Message-ID: <7b613313.0108160546.3be094d0@posting.google.com>n  	 Hi there,c  ? Could anyone help me with another issue regarding a Color Laserl@ printer from HP. We cannot get it to work actually on our VMS7.3C system. We're working with DCPS 1.8 and DQS... The printer is aliveoF and the DQS-mechanism is sending the jobs through to the server... But? somehow they don't get printed on the system. If we ping to thetE printer then everything is working fine... According to my, allthough E restricted, view... it could be something network related but somehowhF I'm not sure as the printer isn't listed in the supported devices list of DCPS.  F Could anybody please comment on this... I would really be gratefull...   Regardsy Franc    ------------------------------  % Date: Thu, 16 Aug 2001 10:56:58 +0100t: From: "Jonathan McCormack" <McCormackJ@BelfastCity.Gov.UK>$ Subject: Printing Through A Firewall? Message-ID: <OQMe7.769$3U6.99162@news6-win.server.ntlworld.com>w  L We are trying to print through a firewall using DPCS and UCX to port 9100 onK the printer. When a connection fails, UCX tries to use the next port up, ie . if port 1100 fails, it tries again using 1101.  G Is there anyway to lock down the outgoing port number to just one port?    OPENVMS 7.11 UCX 4.2 	 DCPS V1.7m   Thanks in advance,   Jonathan McCormack3 Educational Bodies Senior Technical Support Analysty Belfast City Council ISB http://www.belfastcity.gov.ukS   ------------------------------    Date: 16 Aug 2001 10:11:32 -0700  From: alanb@cloud9.net (Alan B.)F Subject: Serve X(DEC)Window display from system w/ no graphics device.< Message-ID: <88599d89.0108160911.40aa761@posting.google.com>  D How can I start DECWindows on an Alpha which has no graphics device,E so that I can log in remotely with an X windows session? I don't careI1 about a local X windows display. Can I "fool" it?M  & I can not seem to find how to do this.   Thanks,a  Alana   ------------------------------  # Date: Thu, 16 Aug 2001 17:30:15 GMTt2 From: hoffman@xdelta.zko.dec.nospam (Hoff Hoffman)J Subject: Re: Serve X(DEC)Window display from system w/ no graphics device.2 Message-ID: <HqTe7.218$bB1.18465@news.cpqcorp.net>  _ In article <88599d89.0108160911.40aa761@posting.google.com>, alanb@cloud9.net (Alan B.) writes:dE :How can I start DECWindows on an Alpha which has no graphics device,eF :so that I can log in remotely with an X windows session? I don't care2 :about a local X windows display. Can I "fool" it?     Ask The Wizard (5409).  N  ---------------------------- #include <rtfaq.h> -----------------------------N       For additional, please see the OpenVMS FAQ -- www.openvms.compaq.com    N  --------------------------- pure personal opinion ---------------------------L    Hoff (Stephen) Hoffman   OpenVMS Engineering   hoffman#xdelta.zko.dec.com   ------------------------------  % Date: Thu, 16 Aug 2001 07:37:19 -0300i% From: <fabio_compaq@petrobras.com.br>T* Subject: Re: Storageworks - more bad news.L Message-ID: <OF2EC5D388.85279C91-ON03256AAA.003A275A@ep-bc.petrobras.com.br>   Alan  E Wnat do expect from a company which want to be a "Services Company" ?-+ Compaq wants to become EDS, Origin, etc ...7A Do you know any hardware developed by EDS ? Unisys was a hardwareuH company and today they are a full services company. Here in Brazil they=  B sell Sun machines, and "made in china desktops" with Unisys' logo.   Regardsa   F=E1bio Cardoso4    H                                                                        =            =20H                     Alan Greig                                         =            =20H                     <a.greig@virg        Para:   Info-VAX@Mvb.Saic.Com =            =20H                     in.net>              cc:                           =            =20H                                          Assunto:     Storageworks - mo= re bad     =20H                     15/08/2001           news.                         =            =20H                     11:10                                              =            =20H                     Responder a                                        =            =20H                     Alan Greig                                         =            =20H                                                                        =            =20H                                                                        =            =20        D I've just had a long chat with the UK Storageworks manager regardingF my concerns and he was not able to put my mind at rest yet.  He was asF helpful as he possibly could be (and I want to heavily stress I am notE criticizing him in the slightest) but in many cases could only answer A that these decisions were out of his hands. He is investigating a/D number of specifics for me and I'll leave further comment until thenC as it involves some other dates which have not yet been made publicR@ and I will not post in confidence information. But I suggest allC Storageworks customers on support ask Compaq the following questions> "Has a date been set internally to drop support on my existing> controllers and if so what is it?" Also "Has a date for end of@ hardware support been set internally for the controllers we haveF recently been assured will continue to have hardware support and if so what is it?" -- Alan       =i   ------------------------------  % Date: Thu, 16 Aug 2001 08:58:17 -0500 C From: "Craig A. Berry" <craig.berry@nospam.SignalTreeSolutions.com>// Subject: Re: The VMS Opensource Porting ProjectlI Message-ID: <craig.berry-61C136.08581716082001@newsrump.sjc.telocity.net>r   Bill Gunshannon wrote: > G > Any other suggestions, as we still have a lot of students who haven'tn > picked a project yet??  B Something else I just came across that might interest quite a few @ people is FreeTDS, especially given the de-support of Sybase on # OpenVMS.  From their release notes:o   ===========lE FreeTDS is an open re-implementation of the TDS (Tabular DataStream) lC Protocol used by Sybase and Microsoft in their database products.  yG Specifically, FreeTDS allows Linux and Unix machines to act as clients  D to a Microsoft SQL Server, Sybase ASE or ASA dataserver and related 
 products.   D FreeTDS supports a range of protocol dialects from both vendors and + three client APIs (dblib, ctlib, and ODBC).6 ===========y  E The full story is at <http://www.freetds.org>.  Obviously you'd need eG access to a test database under Sybase or SQL Server to make this work.u   ------------------------------  # Date: Thu, 16 Aug 2001 14:58:13 GMTu From: paul@wren.cc.kux.eduY Subject: Re: Unix sys admins storing Unix logs on VMS systems ?, was: Re: An ad Compaq sh 2 Message-ID: <3b7bdf45.589803712@news.cc.ukans.edu>  / On Thu, 16 Aug 2001 12:28:43 GMT, Simon Clubleyc5 <simon_clubley@remove_me.excite.com-Earth.UFP> wrote:o  - >On Thu, 16 Aug 2001 10:29:39 GMT, in articledD ><3b7b9faf.573525986@news.cc.ukans.edu>, paul@wren.cc.kux.edu wrote: >>E >>Usenix security presenters tell Unix sys admins to store their Unixr >>logs on VMS systems. >> >vI >Do you have an online reference to this ? Is there a specific context tosM >this recommendation and are the people making this recommendation consideredlA >to have a position of authority in the Unix security community ?E > E >If this can be verified as true (and if it is been made as a general0K >recommendation), this could be very valuable material for some VMS people.m  B I think it was during Marcus Ranum's 8th Usenix Security SymposiumD presentation that he made that recommendation. Don't know if he ever1 put it "in print", either physically or vitually.d   ------------------------------   End of INFO-VAX 2001.454 ************************