/ INFO-VAX	Wed, 03 Jan 2001	Volume 2001 : Issue 6       Contents:+ ??== OVMS, DCPS and Kyocera FS-3800 printer - Re: Alpha nonstrategy, was Re: Happy Holidays < Re: Applications using files by file ID instead of directory< Re: Applications using files by file ID instead of directory< Re: Applications using files by file ID instead of directory< Re: Applications using files by file ID instead of directory2 Re: Auditing VMS system for identifier references?. Auditing VMS system for identifier references?6 RE: Bug - NLB0: crash, was: "NLA0: the null device..."+ Re: DECnet Error After Adding DE500 to 2100 2 DIGITAL OpenVMS Disk Services for Windows NT + NAS
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 Re: eXcursion 0 Farenheit temperatures [was Re: Happy New Years]( Re: File system performance and security( Re: File system performance and security( Re: File system performance and security( Re: File system performance and security( Re: File system performance and security( Re: File system performance and security( Re: File system performance and security Re: FILESERV@WKU: New PQM ! Re: Flackey fibre channel support  Re: FTP is waiting to long!  Re: Giving up on VMS Re: Happy New Years  Re: Happy New Years  Re: Happy New Years  Re: Happy New Years  Re: Happy New Years  Re: Happy New Years  Re: Happy New Years 4 Re: Help for ORACLE v7.3 on VMS v7.1 and TCPIP v5.0A4 Re: Help for ORACLE v7.3 on VMS v7.1 and TCPIP v5.0A8 Keyboards [Was Re: using a multihead XP1000 workstation] Re: Report Scheduler Re: Report Scheduler& Re: Sending messages to an application& Re: Sending messages to an application& Re: Sending messages to an application should I worry?  Re: should I worry?  Re: SSH2 under VMS? + Re: Suggestion for improvement for DECterm. & Tuning an RMS indexed HSM catalog file$ using a multihead XP1000 workstation( Re: using a multihead XP1000 workstation( Re: using a multihead XP1000 workstation VMS Networking and TCP/IP  Re: VMS Networking and TCP/IP  Re: VMS Networking and TCP/IP  RE: VMS Networking and TCP/IP  Re: vms software administration  Re: vms software administration " voor de belgische Alpha gebruikers& Re: voor de belgische Alpha gebruikers Re: VR241 monitor and S-video & Re: when is SYS$NODE normally defined?) Re: XSTAT OPCOM (was Re: should I worry?)   F ----------------------------------------------------------------------  % Date: Wed, 03 Jan 2001 11:44:55 +0100 , From: aus@vim.uni-wuerzburg.de (Hans M. Aus)4 Subject: ??== OVMS, DCPS and Kyocera FS-3800 printerD Message-ID: <aus-0301011144550001@wvia78.virologie.uni-wuerzburg.de>  E Is anyone using a Kyocera (FS-3800) printer in an OpnVMS network? The ; Kyocera printers are not lisited in the DCPS release notes.    --  B Cheers, Hans M. Aus, Wuerzburg, Germany,  aus@vim.uni-wuerzburg.de   ------------------------------  % Date: Tue, 02 Jan 2001 20:55:17 -0600 7 From: "David J. Dachtera" <djesys.nospam@earthlink.net> 6 Subject: Re: Alpha nonstrategy, was Re: Happy Holidays- Message-ID: <3A529495.8E9683EF@earthlink.net>    Bill Gunshannon wrote: > > > In article <oo346.35612$1t.1793320@typhoon.ne.mediaone.net>,9 >  "Terry C. Shannon" <terryshannon@mediaone.net> writes:  > |>Q > |> Yep. And given the massive cost of porting the aforementioned apps to Alpha, . > |> this restriction isn't likely to go away. > H > I wondered how long before this came up again.  We had a rather livelyG > discussion on this very subject not long ago and there were even some K > rather interesting suggestions.  And while a number of people even agreed I > that there was a potential solution, talking is as far as it ever gets.   D Well, let me ask the question once again: what would you have us do?   --   David J. Dachtera  dba DJE Systems  http://www.djesys.com/  : Unofficial Affordable OpenVMS Home Page and Message Board: http://www.djesys.com/vms/soho/   F This *IS* an OpenVMS-related newsgroup. So, a certain bias in postings is to be expected.  @ Feel free to exercise your rights of free speech and expression.  F However, attacks against individual posters, or groups of posters, are strongly discouraged.    ------------------------------  # Date: Wed, 03 Jan 2001 01:05:57 GMT + From: John Santos <john.santos@verizon.net> E Subject: Re: Applications using files by file ID instead of directory > Message-ID: <MPG.14bc455035a33b9d9896ae@news.bellatlantic.net>  : -- In article <3A52589A.CFABC2DB@videotron.ca>, you say...O > Ok, you have an application that stores a gazillion small files and maintains J > its own index of files (containing some attributes for each file such as > sender, date etc). > I > Would it be possible under VMS to have the application create the files H > without having them entered in a VMS directory ? (i.e. only entered inH > indexf.sys) and having the application use the files by file ID only ?  F Certainly (but to be pronounced the way Curly would, "Soytainly"; I.e.' I don't think it's a very good idea...)  > M > Wouldn't this result in much faster file creation and especially deletion ?    Yes.  P > Also, wouldn't file access (open) be faster since you're supplying the file ID5 > right away and no need to search a directory file ?   
 Yes again.  I BUT.  You couldn't (or at least, wouldn't want to) do an ANALYZE/DISK on  D this disk, because it would treat all these files as lost files and I /REPAIR would put them all in [syslost].  Since we are assuming there are E zillions of them, (is a gazillion 1000 zillion or 1,000,000 zillion?) I using ana/disk to check for disk corruption would be totally impractical, ? so you better shadow/raid/ups the disks and cross your fingers.   G You couldn't use normal VMS tools to look at these files if you needed  B to.  You'd have to write your own set of tools that looked at yourC index for dumping/printing/repairing/debugging them (and your app.)   C It might be cleaner (though lots more work) to design your own file B structure, based on the ODS-2 (or -5) file header and your indexedF file, but using a completely different directory tracking method (I.e.B your index file) and writing an ACP to handle it.  I think if thisA were done correctly, most VMS utilities would work out-of-the-box 8 on it.  (TYPE, PRINT, DUMP, EDIT, maybe DIRECTORY, etc.)  I You would bury the file index in your ACP instead of in your application.   B The disadvantage of this is you couldn't use this structure on theD system disk (you couldn't boot from it) but you should probably haveE a separate disk for your application data anyway.  On a small, single G disk system, you could always create a logical disk on the ODS-2 system E disk, initialize that with your new file structure, and mount it with 	 your ACP.   " Sounds like fun, but lots of work!   --   John Santos    ------------------------------  # Date: Wed, 03 Jan 2001 17:06:32 GMT $ From: Scott Vieth <svieth@wi.rr.com>E Subject: Re: Applications using files by file ID instead of directory ) Message-ID: <3A535C4D.733D251B@wi.rr.com>   M We actually have a vendor-supplied app that works just as JF Mezei described. K And, yes, I did run ANAL/DISK/REPAIR on one of the data disks and wiped out L a ton (not a gazillion) of legit files before I realized what was happening.  G The vendor claims that accessing the files the way JF Mezei asked about 7 produces an increase in performance.  I have my doubts. < It just makes the system that much harder for me to babysit.  % I'd advise against using this method.    -scott   John Santos wrote:  < > -- In article <3A52589A.CFABC2DB@videotron.ca>, you say...Q > > Ok, you have an application that stores a gazillion small files and maintains L > > its own index of files (containing some attributes for each file such as > > sender, date etc). > > K > > Would it be possible under VMS to have the application create the files J > > without having them entered in a VMS directory ? (i.e. only entered inJ > > indexf.sys) and having the application use the files by file ID only ? > H > Certainly (but to be pronounced the way Curly would, "Soytainly"; I.e.) > I don't think it's a very good idea...)  > > O > > Wouldn't this result in much faster file creation and especially deletion ?  >  > Yes. > R > > Also, wouldn't file access (open) be faster since you're supplying the file ID7 > > right away and no need to search a directory file ?  >  > Yes again. > J > BUT.  You couldn't (or at least, wouldn't want to) do an ANALYZE/DISK onE > this disk, because it would treat all these files as lost files and K > /REPAIR would put them all in [syslost].  Since we are assuming there are G > zillions of them, (is a gazillion 1000 zillion or 1,000,000 zillion?) K > using ana/disk to check for disk corruption would be totally impractical, A > so you better shadow/raid/ups the disks and cross your fingers.  > H > You couldn't use normal VMS tools to look at these files if you neededD > to.  You'd have to write your own set of tools that looked at yourE > index for dumping/printing/repairing/debugging them (and your app.)  > E > It might be cleaner (though lots more work) to design your own file D > structure, based on the ODS-2 (or -5) file header and your indexedH > file, but using a completely different directory tracking method (I.e.D > your index file) and writing an ACP to handle it.  I think if thisC > were done correctly, most VMS utilities would work out-of-the-box : > on it.  (TYPE, PRINT, DUMP, EDIT, maybe DIRECTORY, etc.) > K > You would bury the file index in your ACP instead of in your application.  > D > The disadvantage of this is you couldn't use this structure on theF > system disk (you couldn't boot from it) but you should probably haveG > a separate disk for your application data anyway.  On a small, single I > disk system, you could always create a logical disk on the ODS-2 system G > disk, initialize that with your new file structure, and mount it with  > your ACP.  > $ > Sounds like fun, but lots of work! >  > --
 > John Santos    ------------------------------  % Date: Wed, 03 Jan 2001 13:11:21 -0500 - From: "Stanley F. Quayle" <SQUAYLE@stanq.com> E Subject: Re: Applications using files by file ID instead of directory K Message-ID: <Pine.VMS.3.91-2.1010103130736.23663A-100000@killer.azbell.com>   & On Wed, 3 Jan 2001, John Santos wrote:E > It might be cleaner (though lots more work) to design your own file D > structure, based on the ODS-2 (or -5) file header and your indexedH > file, but using a completely different directory tracking method (I.e.3 > your index file) and writing an ACP to handle it.   D Somewhat easier would be to create a single container file that's a H completely normal VMS file, and manage the entries inside it yourself.  E If all the entries are the same size ("N" blocks), getting entry "X"  E would just be a read from block N*X to block N*(X+1)-1.  It would be  3 pretty quick, since the file would already be open.    --Stan  
 ----------G Stanley F. Quayle, P.E.   N8SQ   +1 614-868-1363   Fax: +1 614 868-1671 3 8572 North Spring Ct., Pickerington, OH  43147  USA ? Preferred address:  stan@stanq.com         http://www.stanq.com    ------------------------------  % Date: Wed, 03 Jan 2001 12:35:19 -0600 / From: Chris Scheers <chris@applied-synergy.com> E Subject: Re: Applications using files by file ID instead of directory 3 Message-ID: <3A5370E7.3FAD9077@applied-synergy.com>    JF Mezei wrote:  > O > Ok, you have an application that stores a gazillion small files and maintains J > its own index of files (containing some attributes for each file such as > sender, date etc). > I > Would it be possible under VMS to have the application create the files H > without having them entered in a VMS directory ? (i.e. only entered inH > indexf.sys) and having the application use the files by file ID only ? > M > Wouldn't this result in much faster file creation and especially deletion ? P > Also, wouldn't file access (open) be faster since you're supplying the file ID5 > right away and no need to search a directory file ?     F Yes, this should work and be faster.  But, as others have pointed out, utility support is the problem.   E ANAL/DISK/REPAIR will want to enter all of these files in [SYSLOST].  E This in and of itself should not break your application, but deleting  the files from [SYSLOST] will.  D Also, if your application somehow looses track of a file, it becomes difficult to delete the file.   E The biggest problem I see is that I don't think a normal files BACKUP C will see these files, so they won't get backed up.  An image backup   should backup the files, though.  G ----------------------------------------------------------------------- $ Chris Scheers, Applied Synergy, Inc.  C Voice: 817-237-3360            Internet: chris@applied-synergy.com     Fax: 817-237-3074    ------------------------------  % Date: Wed, 03 Jan 2001 15:01:51 +0000   From: steven.reece@quintiles.com; Subject: Re: Auditing VMS system for identifier references? H Message-ID: <OF5BC279DC.E9B949A9-ON802569C9.0051E95D@qedi.quintiles.com>  E I think the answer here might concern how technically aware the audit I people are.  Either way, the report would be generic rather than specific H (like "we grant identifiers like xxxxxxx to grant access to these areas.H This class of person would have such identifiers.  Granting of access is< controlled in this manner and is preapproved by x,y and z").I If the audit people are not technically aware then one could talk through I the identifiers and access requirements with them and offer to go through G the identifiers with them.  They'll probably barf within the first half  hour. K If, on the other hand, the guys are technically aware then the talk through J could be shorter and the walk through of the identifiers will lead them toI barf within the second half hour.  You could offer them a set of listings H (electronic or paper) of DIR/SEC across every disk and ask them how they. would like to pay for the paper or media......   Bob Kaplow asked: D >>>I'm expecting the dreaded IS audit early next month. Our internal account K administration folks have asked me to come up with a report, by identifier, K of what access that identifier grants. They want an inventory of everything ; on the system that having that identifier allows access to.   J All I can think of are VERY brute force ways to do this. Does any one have? an existing solution to this problem, elegant or not? Any help,  particularly) in the form of DCL would be most welcome.   J BTW, we're running Alpha VMS V7.2 just about everywhere. And the disk farmH alone is about 150 logical devices totalling over 2 TB. Brute force will NOT  be pretty...<<<    ------------------------------  % Date: Wed, 03 Jan 2001 08:54:52 -0700   From: l_ricker@lto.locktrack.com7 Subject: Auditing VMS system for identifier references? . Message-ID: <01010308545285@lto.locktrack.com>  F In my experience, auditors want to see "everything" (in the raw), and,D apparently due to the nature of their job, don't mind wading throughC reams of paper.  Furthermore, attempts to "digest" this information C for them is often unappreciated.  VMS is capable of producing "raw" E reports, and that's just what you should give them.  Given that "They F want an inventory of everything on the system that having that identi-: fier allows access to...", in your place I'd do just this:   $ MCR AUTHORIZE  UAF> LIST /ID /FULL * $ %UAF-I-LSTMSG1, writing listing file4 %UAF-I-RLSTMSG, listing file RIGHTSLIST.LIS complete	 UAF> EXIT F $ PRINT /DELETE RIGHTSLIST.LIS   !on my system, burns approx. 30 pages $  $ ! For each disk (150 of 'em): ; $ DIRECTORY /OUT=DISKnnREPORT.LIS /SECURITY dev:[000000...]   $ PRINT /DELETE DISKnnREPORT.LIS $ ...  !repeat until done...  @ If you've got DCPS installed, use it to produce listings in two-> or four-up, reduced, landscape-mode format.  This will save atA least three whole trees.  At any rate, have a whole box of paper, 2 and maybe a couple of toner-cartridges, on hand...  @ Hand them this *big* stack of paper... Smile as you do it.  It's what they've asked for.    ------------------------------  % Date: Tue, 02 Jan 2001 21:22:16 -0500 4 From: "Bochnik, William J" <BochnikWJ@bernstein.com>? Subject: RE: Bug - NLB0: crash, was: "NLA0: the null device..."XJ Message-ID: <2B37459189B0D211BE710000F8EF9D8508908AB1@nts0147.beehive.com>  C Until M.S. can come up with a product that can handle email reply'sy< properly, I guess I will have to result to cut and paste.  b  J Btw as for :-) 's, I reserve the use of those to my niece, who understandsH those better than she spells (:-) ) no offense taken or intended myself,' unless you happen to be her teachers.      Sorry.  ( >hoffman@xdelta.zko.dec.nospam writes:    >Rather further, obviously.  :-)  D >  Humor is easily misinterpreted when in text form, and this is theB > basis for more than a few flame-wars, hurt feelings, and generalJ >  miscommunications, and this ease-of-miscommunications is also arguably F > the basis for the existence of the "emoticons" -- or whatever those H > little text this-is-a-joke gizmo and friends are more properly called.> >  (But you probably knew all that; no offense is intended...) > D > Please turn off MIME when posting to the newsgroup or (as happenedE >  here, based on the headers) when sending messages to the INFO-VAX eE >  mailing list...  Thanks!  (Counting the quoted text, your one-linesE >  response came through as a nice round 100 lines of MIME-encoding.)p   ------------------------------  $ Date: Wed, 3 Jan 2001 00:10:30 -0000, From: "Tim Carcas" <tim@cclinic.demon.co.uk>4 Subject: Re: DECnet Error After Adding DE500 to 2100A Message-ID: <978480592.11597.0.nnrp-02.c2de28a3@news.demon.co.uk>   L Check which version of the DE500 you have. I seem to remember that the newerI version of the DE500 - the DE500-BA required either VMS 7.x or a patch to < VMS 6.2.  The older DE500-AA worked fine with VMS 6.2 as-is.   Regards 
 Tim Carcas  8 "Richard D. Piccard" <piccard@ohio.edu> wrote in message" news:3A520150.3ED8879A@ohio.edu...F > Does the VMS 6.2 SPD list the DE500 as a supported device?  If it isH > newer than the OS version, it should not be surprising that it doesn't > work.i >a% >                                 RDPI >  >  > "Stuart, Ed" wrote:I > 5 > > We're running VMS V6.2 on an AlphaServer 2100. Wes1 > > just added a DE500 to the system along with a 3 > > number of ECOs. The system reports that the newh3 > > device EWB-0 is active via LANCP, but if we tryn. > > and add the device to DECnet (phase IV) we/ > > receive the following when we try and start- > > DECnet.- > >-5 > > %RUN-S-PROC_ID, identification of created process1 > > is 29600171 2 > > %DCL-I-SUPERSEDE, previous value of MOM$SYSTEM > > has been supersededo' > > %DCL-I-SUPERSEDE, previous value of0+ > > MOM$SYSTEM_NOSOFTID has been supersededd' > > %DCL-I-SUPERSEDE, previous value of ) > > MOM$SYSTEM_SOFTID has been superseded 2 > > %NCP-W-INVIDE, Invalid identification format , > > Line > > Line = EWB-0+ > > %SYSTEM-F-IVDEVNAM, invalid device name.2 > > %NCP-W-INVIDE, Invalid identification format , > > Circuit: > > Circuit = EWB-0D+ > > %SYSTEM-F-IVDEVNAM, invalid device namet- > > %NCP-I-NOINFO, No information in databasep5 > > %RUN-S-PROC_ID, identification of created processt > > is 29600173n > >r
 > > Ed Stuarta) > > Manager, Systems and Desktop Servicese# > > Information Technology Servicest! > > City of Austin, Austin Energy  > > Ed.Stuart@austinenergy.com > > . > > "Glittering prizes and endless compromises2 > > shatter the illusion of integrity" - Neil Pert > > F > > *Please apply a generous amount of all the usual disclaimers here* >i > --D > ==================================================================D > Dick Piccard                           Academic Technology ManagerD > piccard@ohio.edu                                 Computer ServicesD > http://oak.cats.ohiou.edu/~piccard/                Ohio University >s >?   ------------------------------  % Date: Wed, 03 Jan 2001 15:44:42 -0300n) From: fabio_compaq@ep-bc.petrobras.com.bre; Subject: DIGITAL OpenVMS Disk Services for Windows NT + NASnL Message-ID: <OF2EAE58AB.DC90DECD-ON032569C9.00669F8D@ep-bc.petrobras.com.br>   An idea:  A This is an old product and  I believe it should be refurbished toa implement some  NAS features !  < Nowadays nobody is not interested to implement a file systemA over another, in a server.  But if this product can be used underm@  a Network Appliance based in OpenVMS .... sounds interesting...  = And ABS should be the default backup solution for  OVMS ! ! !1  > If EMC/EDM runs under Solaris... why not improve ABS to become4 a powerfull backup solution for Compaq storage ! ! !   Regardsc FC   ------------------------------  % Date: Wed, 03 Jan 2001 08:27:58 -0300l) From: fabio_compaq@ep-bc.petrobras.com.bre Subject: Re: eXcursionL Message-ID: <OFB46718FF.B341E0B2-ON032569C9.003EC9A1@ep-bc.petrobras.com.br>  H It=B4s just this. I installed the soft in my PC and when I try to run i= t ' (start the server) appears this messagei  in a box and in the log console.  H "TCP/IP is not running on your local system, please start it or  select=   another transport."r  F I can connect to the OpenVMS server using Reflection X. And I uploadedB the PCX$SERVER.COM already, but still appearing the error message.     Regars   FC            ? "Jesper Naur" <jesper.naur@post.tele.dk> em 02/01/2001 19:03:34o             Info-VAX@Mvb.Saic.Como       Assunto: Re: eXcursion      6 <fabio_compaq@ep-bc.petrobras.com.br> wrote in messageF news:OF66C23CFE.20DBFA71-ON032569C8.006EDD89@ep-bc.petrobras.com.br...H It=B4s my first time configuring the eXcursion soft, and I am receiving=  F the following message when I try to start an application: in this case the Terminal from Dec Windows.  F TCP/IP is not running on your local system, please start it or  select another transport.  1 I am using Windows 95 and MS TCP/IP default stacko  H You don't exactly explain, what you are trying to do, but let me guess:=  YouH are trying to use the X-server program "eXcursion" on a PC for displayi= ngE the X-window belonging to a DECTerm running on a VMS-system (would be,H helpful to know the machine type, VMS version and TCP/IP version). If t= hisp4 assumption is wrong, all bets below are perhaps off.  % The following questions come to mind:   / 1. Exactly where does the error message appear? 6 2. Is TCP/IP configured and started on the VMS system?D 3. Is it possible to PING the VMS system from the PC and vice versa?H 4. Make sure, that the eXcursion server is started on the PC (can be do= ne either explicitly, or from the     eXcursion Control Panel).'H 5. On the VMS system, in a locally started DECTerm, issue the following= :a  D         $ set display/create/trans=3Dtcpip/node=3D<ip address of PC>         $ mc decw$puzzle  A     This should start the Puzzle program, with display on the PC.n  E The above mentioned steps should be successfully completed before you C attempt to configure eXcursion Accounts and Applications, using the  eXcursion Control Panel.  H Have in mind, that the eXcursion distribution (the Host Support section= , IiH believe), contains a file PCXSERVER.COM, which should be copied to the = VMS E system under SYS$SYSTEM and renamed to PCX$SERVER.COM (the exact file, namingC details may be slightly off, you should be able to find them in theo eXcursion description).g  H You can switch on Logging to a window from the eXcursion control panel = on1 the PC - this may be helpful for troubleshooting.s  H TCP/IP on VMS must have the rexec service enabled, since eXcursion norm= ally$ uses this for starting applications.  H Whenever you have defined an application under eXcursion, use the "Run"=  D button to test it until it works. If you have to make changes to theH application configuration AFTER you have created an icon, the icon must=  benH deleted and recreated, since the icon creation function takes a copy of=  theH application configuration data, which will not be changed, if you chang= et the  application.         Best regards     Jesper Naurc               =    ------------------------------  % Date: Wed, 03 Jan 2001 08:31:09 -0300e) From: fabio_compaq@ep-bc.petrobras.com.bro Subject: Re: eXcursionL Message-ID: <OF38043854.2762B5C8-ON032569C9.003F0393@ep-bc.petrobras.com.br>  H This message  appears when I start the X server on my PC ! Reflecion X = is working fine with the server! and REXEC and RSH are started . .   H "TCP/IP is not running on your local system, please start it or  select=   another transport."g     RegardsU   FC            ? "Jesper Naur" <jesper.naur@post.tele.dk> em 02/01/2001 19:03:34,             Info-VAX@Mvb.Saic.Comi       Assunto: Re: eXcursion      6 <fabio_compaq@ep-bc.petrobras.com.br> wrote in messageF news:OF66C23CFE.20DBFA71-ON032569C8.006EDD89@ep-bc.petrobras.com.br...H It=B4s my first time configuring the eXcursion soft, and I am receiving=  F the following message when I try to start an application: in this case the Terminal from Dec Windows.  F TCP/IP is not running on your local system, please start it or  select another transport.  1 I am using Windows 95 and MS TCP/IP default stackr  H You don't exactly explain, what you are trying to do, but let me guess:=  YouH are trying to use the X-server program "eXcursion" on a PC for displayi= ngE the X-window belonging to a DECTerm running on a VMS-system (would beeH helpful to know the machine type, VMS version and TCP/IP version). If t= hish4 assumption is wrong, all bets below are perhaps off.  % The following questions come to mind:   / 1. Exactly where does the error message appear?R6 2. Is TCP/IP configured and started on the VMS system?D 3. Is it possible to PING the VMS system from the PC and vice versa?H 4. Make sure, that the eXcursion server is started on the PC (can be do= ne either explicitly, or from the     eXcursion Control Panel).pH 5. On the VMS system, in a locally started DECTerm, issue the following= :r  D         $ set display/create/trans=3Dtcpip/node=3D<ip address of PC>         $ mc decw$puzzle  A     This should start the Puzzle program, with display on the PC.r  E The above mentioned steps should be successfully completed before youeC attempt to configure eXcursion Accounts and Applications, using thea eXcursion Control Panel.  H Have in mind, that the eXcursion distribution (the Host Support section= , I1H believe), contains a file PCXSERVER.COM, which should be copied to the = VMSSE system under SYS$SYSTEM and renamed to PCX$SERVER.COM (the exact fileo namingC details may be slightly off, you should be able to find them in thed eXcursion description).   H You can switch on Logging to a window from the eXcursion control panel = on1 the PC - this may be helpful for troubleshooting.   H TCP/IP on VMS must have the rexec service enabled, since eXcursion norm= ally$ uses this for starting applications.  H Whenever you have defined an application under eXcursion, use the "Run"=  D button to test it until it works. If you have to make changes to theH application configuration AFTER you have created an icon, the icon must=  benH deleted and recreated, since the icon creation function takes a copy of=  theH application configuration data, which will not be changed, if you chang= em the  application.         Best regards     Jesper Naur-               =,   ------------------------------  # Date: Wed, 03 Jan 2001 07:56:54 GMTc/ From: "Rmy YOUNES" <r_younes@club-internet.fr>l Subject: Re: eXcursion4 Message-ID: <aXA46.315$3_3.1440815@nnrp3.proxad.net>  E As far as i can remember, if you have eXcursion V7 or above, you mustaK install TCPIP stack socks2 (or something like that) which is not in Win 95. / The package is provided in the eXcursion CDROM.e   Regards,? <fabio_compaq@ep-bc.petrobras.com.br> a crit dans le message : A OF66C23CFE.20DBFA71-ON032569C8.006EDD89@ep-bc.petrobras.com.br...lE Its my first time configuring the eXcursion soft, and I am receiving F the following message when I try to start an application: in this case the Terminal from Dec Windows.  F TCP/IP is not running on your local system, please start it or  select another transport.  1 I am using Windows 95 and MS TCP/IP default stack    Regards    FC   ------------------------------  % Date: Wed, 03 Jan 2001 16:18:36 -0300 ) From: fabio_compaq@ep-bc.petrobras.com.br  Subject: Re: eXcursionL Message-ID: <OF114030FA.3CF49D7B-ON032569C9.0069EAEA@ep-bc.petrobras.com.br>  C It=B4s OK ! I installed the Winsock 2 and it=B4s working fine now !o  H A little bit slow because now I belive Decwindows and "lack of performa= nce" are  sinonimous !   Thank you ! ! ! :-)f   Regards    FC        B "R=E9my YOUNES" <r_younes@club-internet.fr> em 03/01/2001 05:56:54             Info-VAX@Mvb.Saic.Com-       Assunto: Re: eXcursion    E As far as i can remember, if you have eXcursion V7 or above, you mustoH install TCPIP stack socks2 (or something like that) which is not in Win=  95./ The package is provided in the eXcursion CDROM.e   Regards,A <fabio_compaq@ep-bc.petrobras.com.br> a =E9crit dans le message :RA OF66C23CFE.20DBFA71-ON032569C8.006EDD89@ep-bc.petrobras.com.br...5H It=B4s my first time configuring the eXcursion soft, and I am receiving=  F the following message when I try to start an application: in this case the Terminal from Dec Windows.  F TCP/IP is not running on your local system, please start it or  select another transport.  1 I am using Windows 95 and MS TCP/IP default stacke   Regardsn   FC                 =d   ------------------------------  % Date: Wed, 03 Jan 2001 13:20:05 -0500 - From: "Stanley F. Quayle" <SQUAYLE@stanq.com>g9 Subject: Farenheit temperatures [was Re: Happy New Years]fK Message-ID: <Pine.VMS.3.91-2.1010103131711.23663B-100000@killer.azbell.com>t  H > >Farenheit took the lowest (weather) reading one year and called it 0,B > >and the highest 100 (a fairly logical approach to measuring theK > >weather).  I think he was in Munich at the time.  Turns out to be fairlyd0 > >representative of most of the temperate zone.  I 100 was his body temperature, and 0 was the coldest temperature he could  ' generate (an ice/acetone/salt mixture).k   --Stan  
 ----------G Stanley F. Quayle, P.E.   N8SQ   +1 614-868-1363   Fax: +1 614 868-1671i3 8572 North Spring Ct., Pickerington, OH  43147  USAd? Preferred address:  stan@stanq.com         http://www.stanq.comn   ------------------------------  % Date: Tue, 02 Jan 2001 21:12:49 -0600c7 From: "David J. Dachtera" <djesys.nospam@earthlink.net>t1 Subject: Re: File system performance and securityt- Message-ID: <3A5298B1.81A6F593@earthlink.net>t   JF Mezei wrote:r > M > Recent throughs on file system performance has resulted in my asking myselfe > the following: > O > If you give a process BYPASS and/or any/all all mighty privileges, would thatO* > speed up file processing significantly ? > O > For instance, supppose you run a news server which is the only app on a node.mP > (no need for security). If a process has certain privileges, would any requestO > for file access skip all the code to check for access, ACLs etc thus yieldingi > performance improvements ? > N > Or would VMS still go though the motions of checking the file protection andO > ACLs and only at the end decide to grant access anyways due to the privileges ' > currently activated for the process ?a  H From reading the Guide to OpenVMS Security, IIRC from the flowchart, theE system must at least try to get the ACL, then get the protection maskc> and evaluate it based on the process's UIC before it considers
 privilege.  H I doubt you'd gain much (if anything). Are you *REALLY* that pressed for machine cycles?I   -- e David J. DachteraR dba DJE SystemsS http://www.djesys.com/  : Unofficial Affordable OpenVMS Home Page and Message Board: http://www.djesys.com/vms/soho/I  F This *IS* an OpenVMS-related newsgroup. So, a certain bias in postings is to be expected.  @ Feel free to exercise your rights of free speech and expression.  F However, attacks against individual posters, or groups of posters, are strongly discouraged.r   ------------------------------  % Date: Tue, 02 Jan 2001 22:42:47 -0500n- From: JF Mezei <jfmezei.spamnot@videotron.ca>.1 Subject: Re: File system performance and securityr, Message-ID: <3A529FA4.ED44C798@videotron.ca>   "David J. Dachtera" wrote:J > I doubt you'd gain much (if anything). Are you *REALLY* that pressed for > machine cycles?"  L One of the main complaints about VMS is its snow file system. Just trying toH find out where the bottleneck is and if there are any ways to reduce it.   ------------------------------  # Date: Wed, 03 Jan 2001 09:28:09 GMTp/ From: Mike Price <mike.price@littlewoods.co.uk>o1 Subject: Re: File system performance and securityt) Message-ID: <92urb5$llk$1@nnrp1.deja.com>n  D IIRC there are security alerts that can be set up to be triggered ifG you use bypass priv. to access a file that you would not otherwise have D access to. Checking for these and logging it (or not) would probably! use up the milliseconds you save!-   --B All opinions are my own and do not necessarily reflect those of my employer     Sent via Deja.com  http://www.deja.com/   ------------------------------  # Date: Wed, 03 Jan 2001 13:47:04 GMT-* From: Alan E. Feldman <alan48@my-deja.com>1 Subject: Re: File system performance and securityn( Message-ID: <92vagm$dq$1@nnrp1.deja.com>  , In article <3A529FA4.ED44C798@videotron.ca>,0   JF Mezei <jfmezei.spamnot@videotron.ca> wrote: > "David J. Dachtera" wrote:@ > > I doubt you'd gain much (if anything). Are you *REALLY* that pressed for  > > machine cycles?e >uD > One of the main complaints about VMS is its snow file system. Just	 trying to3F > find out where the bottleneck is and if there are any ways to reduce it.c >R  " Faster, better, cheaper, pick two.   --F NOTE: If you wish to e-mail me, please do NOT use the deja address. ItE is broken. Instead, use one of the addresses below, removing the longw wrong part first. Thanks.t   Disclaimer: JMHO Alan E. Feldman  &-)+ w: afeldman@gfigroup.ButItSaidItPrinted.com 5 h: alan48@dellnet.YouCantBelieveEverythingYouRead.comc     Sent via Deja.comr http://www.deja.com/   ------------------------------  # Date: Wed, 03 Jan 2001 14:35:36 GMTh* From: Alan E. Feldman <alan48@my-deja.com>1 Subject: Re: File system performance and securityi) Message-ID: <92vdbo$2tp$1@nnrp1.deja.com>   , In article <3A529FA4.ED44C798@videotron.ca>,0   JF Mezei <jfmezei.spamnot@videotron.ca> wrote: > "David J. Dachtera" wrote:@ > > I doubt you'd gain much (if anything). Are you *REALLY* that pressed forp > > machine cycles?  >eD > One of the main complaints about VMS is its snow file system. Just	 trying to(F > find out where the bottleneck is and if there are any ways to reduce it.  >-  F David's right. BYPASS is just about the last thing that's checked for.H The flowchart is on the openVMS web site in the security manual, Fig. 4-# 3. See also the rest of section 4.3v  F What version of VMS do you have? I think directory caching is improved somewhere in the 7's.   F Have you considered making each file a record in an indexed or several indexed files?    In some cases, buffers may help.  F If you have ample memory, be sure ACP cache parameters are high enough to get good hit rates.  B If you have ample memory, be sure that virtual I/O chaching is ON.  C One way to improve performance is to spread the files among severalO directories, as ALL-IN-1 does!    --tF NOTE: If you wish to e-mail me, please do NOT use the deja address. ItE is broken. Instead, use one of the addresses below, removing the long  wrong part first. Thanks.r   Disclaimer: JMHO Alan E. Feldman  &-)+ w: afeldman@gfigroup.ButItSaidItPrinted.comh5 h: alan48@dellnet.YouCantBelieveEverythingYouRead.com      Sent via Deja.com  http://www.deja.com/   ------------------------------   Date: 3 Jan 2001 17:10:57 GMT=2 From: hoffman@xdelta.zko.dec.nospam (Hoff Hoffman)1 Subject: Re: File system performance and securityr6 Message-ID: <92vmf1$e1f$2@mailint03.im.hou.compaq.com>  \ In article <3A52378E.9BE2BF42@videotron.ca>, JF Mezei <jfmezei.spamnot@videotron.ca> writes:L :Recent throughs on file system performance has resulted in my asking myself :the following:r :cN :If you give a process BYPASS and/or any/all all mighty privileges, would that) :speed up file processing significantly ?e  K   Um, without intending to appear rude, you could have tried this yourself.sI   (This is part of the mantra of tuning -- create an entirely repeatable  M   system and I/O testing environment (not as easy as it seems), get baseline fL   performance data, get a theory, try a test, then compare the performance.)  K   Usual performance discussions are around increased caching -- in RMS, in  H   the I/O controller, in the disk -- or around reduced contention -- or L   around better defaults for RMS activities -- and around changes in OpenVMSG   to reduce contention, increase locking bandwidth, and to increase the I   amount of caching, and to better handle arguably degenerate cases such OJ   as repeated open-close-open-close sequences and of runt lock and variousK   temporary files...  Of course there can be CPU and I/O bandwidth hardwareeI   improvements to be had -- these hardware improvements can often be the  I   cheapest approach, though various, um, myopic business cost-accounting  &   techniques might not reflect this...  M :Or would VMS still go though the motions of checking the file protection andtN :ACLs and only at the end decide to grant access anyways due to the privileges& :currently activated for the process ?  E   OpenVMS would still follow the flow-chart in the security manual...n  H   I will assume you are aware of the current per-user auditing settings,I   as well as the current system activity auditing settings.  Having every K   activity available for auditing enabled can clearly reduce the available s   system I/O throughput...  N  --------------------------- pure personal opinion ---------------------------L    Hoff (Stephen) Hoffman   OpenVMS Engineering   hoffman#xdelta.zko.dec.com   ------------------------------  $ Date: Wed, 3 Jan 2001 12:48:07 -0500' From: "Bill Todd" <billtodd@foo.mv.com>e1 Subject: Re: File system performance and security"( Message-ID: <92voeg$n05$1@pyrite.mv.net>  5 Alan E. Feldman <alan48@my-deja.com> wrote in messagew" news:92vagm$dq$1@nnrp1.deja.com.... > In article <3A529FA4.ED44C798@videotron.ca>,2 >   JF Mezei <jfmezei.spamnot@videotron.ca> wrote: > > "David J. Dachtera" wrote:B > > > I doubt you'd gain much (if anything). Are you *REALLY* that
 > pressed forc > > > machine cycles?n > >VF > > One of the main complaints about VMS is its snow file system. Just > trying toMH > > find out where the bottleneck is and if there are any ways to reduce > it.e > >i >,$ > Faster, better, cheaper, pick two.  I A maxim that assumes technology stands still.  When your technology is asnH far out-of-date (albeit admirably maintained and executed) as VMS's fileK system technology is, then you can pick all three if you're willing to takei7 the one-time hit of updating it (and do the job right).d   - bill   >y > --H > NOTE: If you wish to e-mail me, please do NOT use the deja address. ItG > is broken. Instead, use one of the addresses below, removing the longn > wrong part first. Thanks.r >e > Disclaimer: JMHO > Alan E. Feldman  &-)- > w: afeldman@gfigroup.ButItSaidItPrinted.com 7 > h: alan48@dellnet.YouCantBelieveEverythingYouRead.comt >e >t > Sent via Deja.coml > http://www.deja.com/   ------------------------------  % Date: Tue, 02 Jan 2001 21:02:25 -0600 7 From: "David J. Dachtera" <djesys.nospam@earthlink.net>p" Subject: Re: FILESERV@WKU: New PQM- Message-ID: <3A529641.B4D10E20@earthlink.net>t   Hunter Goatley wrote:n > D > Jeremy Begg has contributed PQM (Print Queue Manager for Users andC > Operators) to the WKU FILESERV freeware archives.  PQM lets usersRF > see and delete their print jobs via a GUI (SMG$) interface.  Runs on > both VAX and Alpha.g  F Allow me to express a large "thank you" to Jeremy for his contribution3 and to Hunter for maintaining the FILESERV archive.o   --   David J. Dachterao dba DJE Systems  http://www.djesys.com/  : Unofficial Affordable OpenVMS Home Page and Message Board: http://www.djesys.com/vms/soho/    ------------------------------  $ Date: Wed, 3 Jan 2001 01:09:30 -0000, From: "Tim Carcas" <tim@cclinic.demon.co.uk>* Subject: Re: Flackey fibre channel supportA Message-ID: <978484125.12785.0.nnrp-02.c2de28a3@news.demon.co.uk>s  K Yes - but it's taken months for Compaq to come out with the needed patches.n  B We're running a production remote cluster (3 miles apart with FDDIK clustering and 3 x SAN connections via switched fabric) using VMS 7.2-1 andrK many, many patches - only the December patches allowed us to mount disks one our SAN fabric cluster-wide.  K Wish Compaq would come out with a VMS 7.2-2 - with patches to end of 2000 !o  4 Here's wishing you a "groovy" time with your SANs...   Regards0
 Tim Carcas    9 "Dave Brennan" <dave@lugano.demon.co.uk> wrote in messagec2 news:edn24tsv325958kmfhdtq5bue0k5q24cvs@4ax.com...E > I am interested in other peoples experience with using SAN networkse > with VMS.l >oB > We have been doing some testing and seen nodes crash in our test! > cluster, when doing SAN access.p >.F > We have also seen a shadow set PARTITION when the fibre link betweenH > two machines is severed. That is, near side says this shadow set is okF > but far side, is down. Far side say we are ok but near side shoud be@ > kicked out. Result two shadow sets being updated seperately by! > different sides of the cluster.e >MH > Talking to Compaq, I suggested that fibre channel devices were flakey. > They said they were imature. >w8 > Is enybody else getting this SAN stuff to work on VMS? >o > Dave1 > -----------------------------------------------t1 > Dave Brennan          <dave@lugano.demon.co.uk>y >m& > Universe saving by appointment only!2 > ------------------------------------------------   ------------------------------  $ Date: Wed, 3 Jan 2001 08:43:21 +0100- From: "Roland Hauk" <roland.hauk@indramat.de>d$ Subject: Re: FTP is waiting to long!- Message-ID: <92ukse$lbg4@sunny.mannesmann.de>=  ( FTP server: UNIX(r) System V Release 4.0  6 Now the FTP Server is up again and I don't get errors. Thanks To all.   R. Hauk     ? "M. T. Hollinger" <MyTH@ucx.lkg.dec.com> schrieb im Newsbeitrag 0 news:92tjs9$3ok$1@mailint03.im.hou.compaq.com...: > "Roland Hauk" <roland.hauk@indramat.de> wrote in message) > news:92hg2e$kvo1@sunny.mannesmann.de... K > >     My problem is that FTP server on the other side is down, but the IPe is > > reachable.I > >     In this case UCX is connecting to IP and waits to logon fore someg > hours.: > >     I get no error, FTP is still waiting hour by hour! >XL > This delay suggests the FTP server host is responding in some way, perhapsK > accepting the connection.  Since your other test, attempting a connection  toL > a host which was entirely down, timed out in short order, the FTP client's$ > timeout does appear to be working. >h& > What type of host is the FTP server? >rH > Can you get a protocol trace (such as TCPTRACE server-host-name) whileK > attempting to connect?  That might help to determine what the server host  isK > sending back.  If it accepts the FTP connection (SYN ACK), but then sendso noK > further data, that would certainly explain your observed client behavior.e >i >               - M  >p >c   ------------------------------    Date: 03 Jan 2001 06:38:56 +0800, From: Paul Repacholi <prep@prep.synonet.com> Subject: Re: Giving up on VMSR0 Message-ID: <87k88dziin.fsf@k9.prep.synonet.com>  ) "Bill Todd" <billtodd@foo.mv.com> writes:4  9 > Paul Repacholi <prep@prep.synonet.com> wrote in messagev, > news:87vgrya6a1.fsf@k9.prep.synonet.com...- > > "Bill Todd" <billtodd@foo.mv.com> writes:    ...iD > Hmmm.  Perhaps you're the one who needs to sit down and learn someN > fundamental distinctions among different possible approaches to the problem.  > No, should have waited till I was on-line to read the article.  J > I have little use for *log-structured* storage, save for special-purposeK > use.  That, however, is not what I was suggesting was superior:  it was aeM > *log-protected* approach, similar to the way a log protects a database, andeM > has none of the putative drawbacks you list below.  If you don't understand N > the difference, then there's little point in delving into greater detail; ifJ > you'd like to, start by re-reading what I wrote, and then study databaseM > design for a bit (as I did, before I designed and implemented my first suchb" > distributed file/object system).  L The crucial difference, is you put it on a seperate device. That changes theI trade-off tremenously. And by doing a Prestoserve-II, you boost them even  more.f  G Do you know you can get flash backed up RAM cards in PCMIA format? Like0E the flash cards for digital cameras etc, but with CMOS ram doing mostRB of the cycles. The flash is only used as power to the outside goesB on or off. Pretty expensive I was told, but that would seem to fit the h'w bill fully.    -- 9< Paul Repacholi                               1 Crescent Rd.,7 +61 (08) 9257-1001                           Kalamunda.l@                                              West Australia 6076. Raw, Cooked or Well-done, it's all half baked.   ------------------------------  $ Date: Wed, 3 Jan 2001 09:30:54 +01006 From: "Martin Knoblauch" <martin.knoblauch@compaq.com> Subject: Re: Happy New Years6 Message-ID: <92uoeo$958$1@mailint03.im.hou.compaq.com>  9 "Bob Koehler" <koehler@eisner.decus.org> wrote in messageI% news:PxnOPBlw5mLq@eisner.decus.org... 7 > In article <3A50BFB8.77403E6C@videotron.ca>, JF Mezei & <jfmezei.spamnot@videotron.ca> writes: >aE > IMHO Celcius is usefull for doing chemistry, Farenheit for weather.wJ > A simple concept known as using the right tool for the job:  Celcius wasG > designed for dealing with the physical properties of water, Farenheiti  F  Don't think so. Celsius just took two interesting properties of waterK (melting point, boiling point) to be the base of his temperature scale. AndT4 he devided the intervall between into 100 "degrees".  ? > was designed for measuring weather in Earth's temperate zone.o >s  J  Not really knowing the history of Fahrenheit, what are the "basic points"> (0, 100, ???) on this scale. They do not seem to represent any( useful/memorizable property of anything.  ?  Anyway, to make all camps happy - lets move to Reaumur (sp ?).c   Martin   ------------------------------  % Date: Wed, 03 Jan 2001 11:16:52 +0000a% From: Alan Greig <agreig@my-deja.com>  Subject: Re: Happy New Years8 Message-ID: <t5165t4vntnovhb59mu2invme672dnkr8b@4ax.com>  E On Tue, 02 Jan 2001 16:51:35 +0100, Paul Sture <paul@sture.ch> wrote:    > J >Although in the UK it was promised that the Fahrenheit readings would be L >phased out at some point in the future, I don't think it has happened yet. > >AFAIK, UK weather forecasts give both Fahrenheit and Celsius.  F For some reason high temperatures are usually given in C and F but lowF temps only in C: "Highs of 25 Celsius, 77 Degrees Fahrenheit", but notA "Overnight low -1 Celsius, 30 degrees Fahrenheit (or 2 degrees ofoD frost).". For some reason many people (and I include myself) seem to< like high ambient temps in Fahrenheit and everything else in; Celsius/Centigrade. I guess 77 sounds a lot warmer than 25.o  ' Anyway shouldn't we be using Kelvin? :)      --
 Alan Greig   ------------------------------  % Date: Wed, 03 Jan 2001 11:31:59 +0000f% From: Alan Greig <agreig@my-deja.com>l Subject: Re: Happy New Years8 Message-ID: <ni265t8r741kqn71c7da2e7uv7vd891bqc@4ax.com>  5 On Wed, 3 Jan 2001 09:30:54 +0100, "Martin Knoblauch"'$ <martin.knoblauch@compaq.com> wrote:   > : >"Bob Koehler" <koehler@eisner.decus.org> wrote in message& >news:PxnOPBlw5mLq@eisner.decus.org...8 >> In article <3A50BFB8.77403E6C@videotron.ca>, JF Mezei' ><jfmezei.spamnot@videotron.ca> writes:I >>F >> IMHO Celcius is usefull for doing chemistry, Farenheit for weather.K >> A simple concept known as using the right tool for the job:  Celcius waspH >> designed for dealing with the physical properties of water, Farenheit >,G > Don't think so. Celsius just took two interesting properties of wateruL >(melting point, boiling point) to be the base of his temperature scale. And5 >he devided the intervall between into 100 "degrees".e >g@ >> was designed for measuring weather in Earth's temperate zone. >> > K > Not really knowing the history of Fahrenheit, what are the "basic points"h? >(0, 100, ???) on this scale. They do not seem to represent anyf) >useful/memorizable property of anything.t  E 100 was supposed to be body temp but, with improving accuracy, is off-> slightly. Then there was defined to be 180 degress between the7 freezing point and boiling point of water. According toFD howstuffworks.com the freezing point of water was arbitrarily set atD 32 degrees Fahrenheit and it doesn't mention that this was to fit in@ with body temp of 100 but that's what I was taught in physics...   >o@ > Anyway, to make all camps happy - lets move to Reaumur (sp ?). >  >Martinb >y   --
 Alan Greig   ------------------------------   Date: 3 Jan 2001 07:56:28 -0500i, From: koehler@eisner.decus.org (Bob Koehler) Subject: Re: Happy New Years+ Message-ID: <ruAz1YfkY5aK@eisner.decus.org>   o In article <92uoeo$958$1@mailint03.im.hou.compaq.com>, "Martin Knoblauch" <martin.knoblauch@compaq.com> writes:d > ; > "Bob Koehler" <koehler@eisner.decus.org> wrote in messagee' > news:PxnOPBlw5mLq@eisner.decus.org...M8 >> In article <3A50BFB8.77403E6C@videotron.ca>, JF Mezei( > <jfmezei.spamnot@videotron.ca> writes: >>F >> IMHO Celcius is usefull for doing chemistry, Farenheit for weather.K >> A simple concept known as using the right tool for the job:  Celcius wasiH >> designed for dealing with the physical properties of water, Farenheit > H >  Don't think so. Celsius just took two interesting properties of waterM > (melting point, boiling point) to be the base of his temperature scale. Andn6 > he devided the intervall between into 100 "degrees".   Which is exactly what I said.M  @ >> was designed for measuring weather in Earth's temperate zone. >> > L >  Not really knowing the history of Fahrenheit, what are the "basic points"@ > (0, 100, ???) on this scale. They do not seem to represent any* > useful/memorizable property of anything.  E Farenheit took the lowest (weather) reading one year and called it 0,r? and the highest 100 (a fairly logical approach to measuring theAH weather).  I think he was in Munich at the time.  Turns out to be fairly- representative of most of the temperate zone.b    F ----------------------------------------------------------------------? Bob Koehler                     | Computer Sciences Corporation = NASA GSFC Flight Software       | Federal Sector, Civil GroupnE                                 | please remove ".aspm" when replyingB   ------------------------------   Date: 3 Jan 2001 07:58:29 -0500 , From: koehler@eisner.decus.org (Bob Koehler) Subject: Re: Happy New Years+ Message-ID: <XMQVFATmf3RU@eisner.decus.org>o  ` In article <ni265t8r741kqn71c7da2e7uv7vd891bqc@4ax.com>, Alan Greig <agreig@my-deja.com> writes:7 > On Wed, 3 Jan 2001 09:30:54 +0100, "Martin Knoblauch"i& > <martin.knoblauch@compaq.com> wrote: >  > G > 100 was supposed to be body temp but, with improving accuracy, is offt@ > slightly. Then there was defined to be 180 degress between the9 > freezing point and boiling point of water. According tooF > howstuffworks.com the freezing point of water was arbitrarily set atF > 32 degrees Fahrenheit and it doesn't mention that this was to fit inB > with body temp of 100 but that's what I was taught in physics... >   E No.  Farenheit didn't do anything arbitrarily, Celsius advocates just:) like to claim he did.  See my other post.   F ----------------------------------------------------------------------? Bob Koehler                     | Computer Sciences Corporationa= NASA GSFC Flight Software       | Federal Sector, Civil GroupaE                                 | please remove ".aspm" when replyinge   ------------------------------  % Date: Wed, 03 Jan 2001 13:43:25 +0000E% From: Alan Greig <agreig@my-deja.com>z Subject: Re: Happy New Years8 Message-ID: <rka65t0cvreqdujt2inmlnd03lruqmbn32@4ax.com>  D On 3 Jan 2001 07:56:28 -0500, koehler@eisner.decus.org (Bob Koehler) wrote:    F >Farenheit took the lowest (weather) reading one year and called it 0,@ >and the highest 100 (a fairly logical approach to measuring theI >weather).  I think he was in Munich at the time.  Turns out to be fairlyt. >representative of most of the temperate zone.  A Then why would you get *exactly* 180 degrees between freezing anda boiling point of water?r  A Hmm, I seem to recall also being taught that he was looking for asD scale that matched well with typical experienced temperatures as youE suggest but my memory is that 100 was supposed to be body temp rather D than highest recorded ambient temp. It seems unlikely that you wouldB get a high of 100 in Munich and a low of 0 in one particular year.E That sounds like a once a century type range to me. And we still haveOC to explain that exact 9/5 + 32 conversion factor whcih follows fromv# the 180 degrees liquid water range.s   >r >aG >----------------------------------------------------------------------a@ >Bob Koehler                     | Computer Sciences Corporation> >NASA GSFC Flight Software       | Federal Sector, Civil GroupF >                                | please remove ".aspm" when replying   --
 Alan Greig   ------------------------------  % Date: Wed, 03 Jan 2001 10:43:31 -0500d- From: JF Mezei <jfmezei.spamnot@videotron.ca>t Subject: Re: Happy New Years, Message-ID: <3A53489F.66B256B8@videotron.ca>   Martin Knoblauch wrote:mH >  Don't think so. Celsius just took two interesting properties of waterM > (melting point, boiling point) to be the base of his temperature scale. Andb6 > he devided the intervall between into 100 "degrees".  L >  Not really knowing the history of Fahrenheit, what are the "basic points"@ > (0, 100, ???) on this scale. They do not seem to represent any* > useful/memorizable property of anything.  N Fahrenheit, (the guy was a german) has its 0 defined as the lowest temperatureH that could be mechanically acheived back in the 1700s when the scale wasL devised, and the 100 degree mark at what is about the human body temperature according to one encyclopedia.  N According to another encyclopedia, it is defined as a scale having 180 degreesJ between the point of freezing and boiling of water. (degrees, angles.....)   ------------------------------  $ Date: Wed, 3 Jan 2001 00:56:43 +0100- From: "Taki Pioy" <nospam@localhost.spamwarn> = Subject: Re: Help for ORACLE v7.3 on VMS v7.1 and TCPIP v5.0A 4 Message-ID: <4Vt46.611$Wo1.1899@nntpserver.swip.net>  $ <JBUTLER@utmem.edu> wrote in message+ news:01JYE4RXC48290MW8K@UTMEM1.UTMEM.EDU...hD > I have OpenVMS v7.1 Alpha and ORACLE v7.3.2 and was using UCX v4.2G > with ECOs.  I upgraded to TCPIP v5.0A ECO1 and the ORACLE Listener nod longerJ > works.  It seems to start up and you can successfully telnet to the port4 > being used, but the SQLNET connection gives error.  4 How do you connect and with what error message/code?  / What do you mean by "Listener no longer works"?a? Does it startup with errors? Can you up the trace level and get  a log file?l  ? > Does anyone have experience with this?  Do you have any hintsE* > for why the version of TCP would matter?  ? No experience on this specific matter I'm afraid, but I'd guessR- some change in the TCP/IP stack could matter./9 This TCPIP version "comes along" with VMS 7.2 and I thinku= Oracle SQLnet from v7.3.2 (v2.3.3 I'd guess) is not supportedy- on VMS 7.2. Perhaps 7.3.4 (SQLnet v2.3.4) is?@  ; (btw, we had some quirks with FTP interaction when upgraded : to UCX v4.2 from v4.1, so as usual, new software means new% "bugs", even in the world of VMS :-))    Regards, /Fad   > Thanks, Jenny Butler > JBUTLER@UTMEM.EDUR   ------------------------------  % Date: Wed, 03 Jan 2001 11:49:39 +0000 % From: Alan Greig <agreig@my-deja.com>r= Subject: Re: Help for ORACLE v7.3 on VMS v7.1 and TCPIP v5.0AH8 Message-ID: <ht365ts9a2jro29n5fps701750urtdn9nv@4ax.com>  B On Mon, 01 Jan 2001 12:04:20 -0600 (CST), JBUTLER@utmem.edu wrote:  D >	I have OpenVMS v7.1 Alpha and ORACLE v7.3.2 and was using UCX v4.2M >with ECOs.  I upgraded to TCPIP v5.0A ECO1 and the ORACLE Listener no longer-I >works.  It seems to start up and you can successfully telnet to the portb3 >being used, but the SQLNET connection gives error.r? >	Does anyone have experience with this?  Do you have any hintso) >for why the version of TCP would matter?s  @ What appears in listener.log? If you can telnet to the port then? something is listening on the port and that something should ben. Oracle.  A telnet to the port should result in; TNS-12502: TNS:listener received no connect data for clientc@ appearing in the log file - assuming it's actually on the port.   ? Trey a UCX SHOW DEV and look at the BG devices assigned to yourwF listening port. Then issue a DCL SHOW DEV/FUL on the BG devices. Check that Oracle owns them. >			Thanks, Jenny Butler >			JBUTLER@UTMEM.EDU@   --
 Alan Greig   ------------------------------  % Date: Wed, 03 Jan 2001 13:31:22 -0500S- From: "Stanley F. Quayle" <SQUAYLE@stanq.com>eA Subject: Keyboards [Was Re: using a multihead XP1000 workstation] K Message-ID: <Pine.VMS.3.91-2.1010103132836.23663D-100000@killer.azbell.com>   " On 3 Jan 2001, Hoff Hoffman wrote:  G >       Set DECW$DEFAULT_KEYBOARD_MAP to your keyboard -- this is ofteno >       one of the following:k > . >         US_LK401AA (LK401, LK461, LK46W), or1 >                 Traditional OpenVMS keyboard...a+ >         US_LK443AA_PC or _LK (PC keyboardeH >                 PC keyboard, using the PC or the LK key definitions... > 3 >       See DECW$KEYMAP: for the available keymaps.   G Does that mean I can attach a standard PC keyboard but have it operate dH like a traditional OpenVMS keyboard (NumLock -> PF1, etc.)?  That would G be handy; my KVM switch has VMS, Linux, and Win systems attached to it.-   --Stan  
 ----------G Stanley F. Quayle, P.E.   N8SQ   +1 614-868-1363   Fax: +1 614 868-1671u3 8572 North Spring Ct., Pickerington, OH  43147  USAs? Preferred address:  stan@stanq.com         http://www.stanq.coma   ------------------------------  % Date: Wed, 03 Jan 2001 08:54:38 +0100 6 From: "Martin P.J. Zinser" <zinser@sysdev.exchange.de> Subject: Re: Report Scheduler 1 Message-ID: <3A52DABE.5040902@sysdev.exchange.de>    Hello!   Mark-Simon Pope wrote:  J > I'm looking for a decent report scheduler, preferably written in DCL andL > Free.  Something that uses a .DAT file to define a schedule would be nice. >   ; You might want to have a look at Kronos, e.g. available viao  0 http://www.decus.de:8080/www/vms/sw/kronos.htmlx     					Greetings, Martin       --  P Dr. Martin P.J. Zinser                                 zinser@sysdev.exchange.de Deutsche Boerse Systems AGL Neue Boersenstr. 1                                     Tel: +49 69 2101 5634L 60487 Frankfurt                                        FAX: +49 69 2101 3411P Germany                                                Private:  zinser@decus.de   ------------------------------  $ Date: Wed, 3 Jan 2001 13:08:24 -0500% From: "John Vottero" <John@mvpsi.com>e Subject: Re: Report Scheduler / Message-ID: <t56qm5m5aunq6c@news.supernews.com>t  L Take a look at JAMS.  It's not free but it's good! It's a real VMS grade jobK scheduler.  It also uses natural language date specifications although, you-J would have to write "Every Tuesday after the last Friday of each month" as "Last Friday of month + 4".   6 You can get details at http://JAMS.Argent-Software.com   John Vottero (A JAMS developer)c John@Argent-Software.com  < "Mark-Simon Pope" <mpope@NOSPAM@bristol.ca> wrote in message* news:v9n46.5096$ok4.72336@news1.mts.net...J > I'm looking for a decent report scheduler, preferably written in DCL andL > Free.  Something that uses a .DAT file to define a schedule would be nice. >pL > It would have to be able to handle oddball rules like "Every Tuesday after! > the last Friday of each month."l >lL > I have a long and complicated DCL that currently runs my  reporting and is > becoming hard to manage. >t > Any suggestions? >a > Mark-Simon Popet > Bristol Aerospace Limitedw > Winnipeg, Manitoba.a >e >n >    ------------------------------  % Date: Wed, 03 Jan 2001 10:41:30 +0000n% From: Alan Greig <agreig@my-deja.com>l/ Subject: Re: Sending messages to an application'8 Message-ID: <98065tc5g795e9od7ql8te2cmnon2qq1n0@4ax.com>  2 On Sun, 31 Dec 2000 11:49:30 -0500, Howard S Shubs <hshubs@mindspring.com> wrote:  G >In article <3a4f28ac$0$36815$272ea4a1@news.execpc.com>, Jack Patteeuw p  ><jjpatteeuw@voyager.net> wrote: >g >>"Richard B. Gilbert" wrote:A >>> L >>>         Offhand, I can think of a couple of ways to send a message to anN >>> application:  Common Event Flags, Mailboxes, Global sections!  Ok, I lied;J >>> that's three.  Of course the application must be written to  Check itsE >>> Common Event Flags, Mailboxes, etc, and do something in response.o >>F >>Don't forget Logical Names (obviously stored is a shared name table) > & >Four, four ways.  Then there's files.  F Don't forget the simplest method to call an application and tell it toB open a file: Command line arguments passed to a spawned process. A& method common to Unix, Windows and VMS --
 Alan Greig   ------------------------------  % Date: Wed, 03 Jan 2001 10:45:44 -0500"- From: JF Mezei <jfmezei.spamnot@videotron.ca>p/ Subject: Re: Sending messages to an application., Message-ID: <3A534925.A76098E7@videotron.ca>   Alan Greig wrote:eH > Don't forget the simplest method to call an application and tell it toD > open a file: Command line arguments passed to a spawned process. A( > method common to Unix, Windows and VMS  I Yes, but when that application (such as Netscape) is already running, youhN don't want to start a new instance of Netscape, you just want netscape to seekL a new URL, or perhaps just open a new browser window with your supplied URL.5 It is that functionality which I wonder about on VMS.o   ------------------------------  $ Date: Wed, 3 Jan 2001 12:55:03 -0500% From: "John Vottero" <John@mvpsi.com> / Subject: Re: Sending messages to an applicationt/ Message-ID: <t56pt2ebo4nhb5@news.supernews.com>f  : "JF Mezei" <jfmezei.spamnot@videotron.ca> wrote in message& news:3A4D2F12.1AE716B4@videotron.ca...L > Most GUI platforms, even my old trusted PSION 3 (not actuall a GUI) have aA > mechanism whereas one application can send a message to another- application toI > tell it to open/close a file. (or start that application with a file to  open > by default). >YL > For instance, while reading an email, you can view an attachement with theH > proper application, and if the application is already started, it just opense@ > the new file, thus providing much faster service to the user). >u >tJ > VMS , as an OS, doesn't have that built-in. But does X-windows have this type > of feature ?  G X has lots of ways to do this.  Try a search for ICCCM which stands forlI Inter-Client Communication Conventions Manual.  If you need an example, IeH wrote a utility which does this for X based TPU editors.  When I type EDI FILENAME.TXT it doesn't start an editor, it finds the LSE editor which islJ using my display and tells it to deiconify and read in FILENAME.TXT.  I'veF also changed the exit code to save the file and then shrink to an iconL rather than really exiting.  It's loads faster than waiting for LSE (or EVE)	 to start.a  J I don't have this up on our web site yet but it is on my list of things toI do (has been for years).  Let me know if it's of interest and I'll try toq$ move it up in my list of priorities.   ------------------------------  $ Date: Wed, 3 Jan 2001 09:34:27 +02003 From: "Phillip du Plooy" <itbpjdp@puknet.puk.ac.za>m Subject: should I worry?- Message-ID: <978507287.721418@news.puk.ac.za>7   Happy new Year !!   L I get this opcom messages a few times a day on my ES40 running OpenVMS 7.2-1 .f! What is it and what should I do ?e  	 Thank yous Phillip du Plooy   $u8 %%%%%%%%%%%  OPCOM   3-JAN-2001 07:46:40.03  %%%%%%%%%%%  Message from user SYSTEM on AXP3! named: NSTATS 978508000 978374800    $ 8 %%%%%%%%%%%  OPCOM   3-JAN-2001 07:46:40.03  %%%%%%%%%%%  Message from user SYSTEM on AXP3E named: XSTATS 978508000 978374800 RR=0 RNXD=0 RFwdR=0 RDupR=0 RFail=0e
 RFErr=0 REK rr=0 RAXFR=0 RLame=0 ROpts=0 SSysQ=1 SAns=0 SFwdQ=0 SDupQ=26062 SErr=0 RQ=0t RIQ=F 0 RFwdQ=0 RDupQ=0 RTCP=0 SFwdR=0 SFail=0 SFErr=0 SNaAns=0 SNXD=0 RUQ=0	 RURQ=0 RUi
 XFR=0 RUUpd=0,   $    ------------------------------  % Date: Wed, 03 Jan 2001 09:21:54 +0100 5 From: Oswald Knoppers <Oswald.Knoppers@whitehouse.nl>e Subject: Re: should I worry?- Message-ID: <3A52E122.D27DC97C@whitehouse.nl>    Phillip du Plooy wrote:   # > What is it and what should I do ?e  H These look like BIND/DNS statistics. I would consider them informational only.    Regards,   Oswald   ------------------------------   Date: 3 Jan 2001 16:28:27 GMTo2 From: hoffman@xdelta.zko.dec.nospam (Hoff Hoffman) Subject: Re: SSH2 under VMS?6 Message-ID: <92vjvb$djj$1@mailint03.im.hou.compaq.com>   In article <dNNxhia9+Mv$@mccdev.slac.stanford.edu>, Fairfield@SLAC.Stanford.EDU (Ken Fairfield; SLAC: 650-926-2924; FAX: 926-3515) writes:. :In article <3a52478f.0@cfanews.harvard.edu>, ; :    	"Gareth V. Williams" <graff@cfa0.harvard.edu> writes:.M :> Is anyone aware of a VMS port of ssh-2.4.0 or openssh-2.3.0p1?  Both these ; :> packages implement SSH2.  A web search turns up nothing.  ..  I   Compaq TCP/IP Services does not have this support available at present,rG   and I've passed along the SSH2 request to the engineering and producteH   management team...  To confirm Ken Fairfield's response, I've not yet 5   seen nor heard of any source of SSH2 for OpenVMS...c  N  --------------------------- pure personal opinion ---------------------------L    Hoff (Stephen) Hoffman   OpenVMS Engineering   hoffman#xdelta.zko.dec.com   ------------------------------  # Date: Wed, 03 Jan 2001 18:36:27 GMTe From: yyygac2@my-deja.comt4 Subject: Re: Suggestion for improvement for DECterm.) Message-ID: <92vrfb$g8p$1@nnrp1.deja.com>r  >  > In article <92simp$ai$1@info.service.rug.nl>, "Fred Zwarts" <F.Zwarts@KVI.nl> writes:iH > :I would like an small improvement for DECterm, to make it easier to = > :locate the user.y  E I would simply like to have the ability to somehow determine that the E the end display device is in fact a DECterm.  I want this informationiE so I could add the escape sequence to set the DECterm's icon title tonC the host name as part of the VMS DCL prompt string in my LOGIN.COM.hD This way I could easily identify to which system my iconized DECtermD windows are connected as I make network connections (via SET HOST orG TELNET) to remote systems.  By embedding the sequence in the DCL promptiD string on each system the icon title can be automatically set to theE remote system name when connecting to remote systems as well as reset8@ to the originating system name upon logout (when the originatingD system's DCL prompt is restored).  The stumbling block to just doingF this blindly is that the icon text is not swallowed if the end displayF device is not a DECterm and doesn't understand the escape sequence andB as a result is visible in the DCL prompt ... not pretty.  BTW, andD crank up the 30 character limit on the DCL prompt string length so I. can add the sequence for the window title too!       Sent via Deja.comp http://www.deja.com/   ------------------------------  % Date: Wed, 03 Jan 2001 10:32:47 -0500a& From: Donald G Plugge <plugge@usa.net>/ Subject: Tuning an RMS indexed HSM catalog file ' Message-ID: <3A534619.7EF50A86@usa.net>a  F In an attempt to best optimize an HSM indexed catalog file, I've asked myselfA numerous questions, then dug for the answers.  This work involves 
 research into-@ the general organization of an RMS indexed file, as well as, the specificD design of the HSM catalog file in particular.  Many of the questions have notC been answered or I've found conflicting information -- therefore, Il
 decided to@ submit my on-going work to the comp.os.vms newsgroup for review.  D I've marked unanswered questions with a "***" character string.  The	 questionsRF are uniquely directed toward one specific type of RMS indexed file, so generaln> RMS indexed tuning rules of thumb may or may not apply to this particular case.  G I some cases I may be leading down the wrong path or completely missingt certaintG aspects of the process.  Anyway, here is the information I've gathered.w Any E comments, suggestions, or advice will be added to the growing list off	 questionsaD and answers.  Perhaps the results may even help others attempting to tune HSM catalog files.  , 1) How do you optimize the HSM catalog file?  6 $ ANA /RMS /FDL /OUT={original FDL} {original catalog}F $ EDIT /FDL /ANA={original FDL} /NOINTER /OUT={new FDL} {original FDL}G $ CONVERT /FDL={new FDL} /STAT /NOSORT {origianl catalog} {new catalog}   A Should the qualifier for /ANA and the FDL file parameter point ton	 different0 files?  6 2) How do you determine the current number of buckets?   $ DIR /FULL {catalog}h  ' File Attribute: ... maximum bucket sizes  5 3) How do you determine the current number of levels?t  ( Edit the FDL file created by ANA/RMS/FDL  C 4) How do you determine the current number of index and data areas?   + Edit the FDL file created by ANA/RMS/FDL orN use the freeware SIDRe  - 5) Should compression be used in the catalog?   & The HSM optimazation literature state:   - Disable index compressione - Disable data key compressionE - Disable data record compression (if DATA_RECORD_COMPRESSION is low).  1 However, the Indexed File Tuning documents state:   A Compression increases CPU time, but the keys are smaller, so youre applicationt: can scan more quickly throught the data and index buckets.  6 *** To compress or not compress, that is the question?  * 6) What is a good fill factor for my site?  G Currently I'm adding about X more records, between optimization passes,F to aniF index file containing Y records.  So, the fill factor might want to be 100-(X/(Y+X)).  
 X =  16000
 Y = 355757    1 - (16000/(355757+16000)) = 96%  4 7) How does the cluster size affect the bucket size?  2 The bucket size is a multiple of the cluster size.  B *** Problem: my current cluster size is 18 and my bucket max is 12  ? I found an question in "Ask the Wizard" relating to this issue.c  : 8) How can RMS buffers be used to tune the catalog access?  9 The global buffers can be modified by issuing the commandn   $ SET RMS /INDEX /BUFFER=X  $ Global buffers allows shared access.  - Currently, I have no global buffers specifiedr  G 9) Can you force changes to the FDL file during the optimization stage?v  H A posting in www.deja.com recommended using two FDL files, one being the actualA FDL file and the other being a hand edited file with limited site@ specific
 requirements.   < EDIT/FDL/ANA={original FDL file}/OUT={newly create FDL file}   - {hand edited FDL file}  A I've run into numerous problems with this approach.  Although thes /NOINTERA switch is used,  the message "You must provide an answer here" isu	 displayedTE with a one given FDL file containing a minimal amount of information.a There?D must be some minimal requirement for FDL parameters.  For example, a missingrD FILE ORGANIZATION parameter results in the message "The current file organization  is not indexed".  E *** In other words, how much can I pare down the FDL file while stillr maintaining a valid syntax.   F *** Which file will override the other (/ANA file or the FDL parameter file)?  " 10) What is the ideal bucket size?  1 Larger buckets for deep index or sequential reads  Smaller buckets for contention  E The optimization script makes a recommendation for bucket size.  Make  sure theD catalog to be optimated is on the target device for accurate cluster information.   11) How much space to allocate?   E Use a multiple of the bucket size based upon the current record count- and size  - 12) How many records are in the indexed file?3  : *** User records or sidr records?  What is the difference?  7 13) How many records are added per optimization period?-  D 12,000-16,000 files are added to the HSM catalog every month, so the	 extention6  should be based upon that figure   14) What are my keys?   & Key 0 = file_name         (255 string)% Key 1 = catalog_uid       (22 string)v% Key 2 = cache_catalog_uid (22 string)n3 Key 3 = archive_file_uid  (16 string) No duplicatess$ Key 4 = file_uid          (6 string)  & 15) Do I want to avoid duplicate keys?  D RMS sequentially traverses duplicate chain, however, HSM has already designedD the indexed file this way.  This cannot be changed for HSM, right?!?  G The catalog has a high amount of duplicates for key number 2.  In fact,e thereh> are as many duplicates as user records.  A one-to-one mapping.  > *** How would I avoid duplicate keys on an HSM catalog anyway?   16) Analysis Tools  8 SIDR          - Freeware CD tool to analyze indexed file$ ANA/RMS/FDL   - In depth system tool. EDIT/FDL/ANA  - Graphical analysis of FDL file' DIR/FULL      - Brief indexed file infow7 MON RMS/FILE  - Record/view current RMS stats on a file@  D 17) How records are added to an HSM indexed file determines the Fill Factor?:  @ Are the records randomly added or added by increasing key value?  ? In my environment the records added to the HSM catalog are fileg specificationsG entered one subdirectory at a time.  Meaning HSM files are added to theH HSMoH system by subdirectory and all files in that particular subdirectory are added , in order.  This is site specific for my lab.   18) How many records/bucket?   At my site:    User data records = 355757  1 Key 1 299625 sidr / 15709 buckets = 19 rec/bucketC1 Key 2   2261 sidr /  2261 buckets =  1 rec/buckete1 Key 3 355747 sidr / 12972 buckets = 27 rec/bucketE1 Key 4 194590 sidr /  5429 buckets = 36 rec/bucket   / Can this be optimized for a cluster size of 18?t  ' 19) What size extention should be used?o  A That depends upon the number of records added to the indexed file  betweenx optimization intervals?d  , 20) At what rate are files added to the HSM?  D As discussed above, 12,000-16,000 files are added to the HSM catalog everytC month.  Therefore, the extention should be able to hold the maximum 	 amount of: records added or 16,000.  % 21) When was the file last optimized?   = *** Does the actual indexed file retain previous optimizatione information?  E I don't see that the summary, statistics or fdl file contain previousc optimization information.k  ; 22) How many areas should there be in the HSM catalog file?e  = Only if the file will not be distributed over several volumes.   *** How is this accomplished?l  C 23) What does MONITOR RMS /FILE tell me about the tuning of the HSMl catalog    Look for low values in:w  
 PUT call ratem Bucket/split
 Write IO Raten  D 24) How do I assess performance hit from excess forward and backward pointers due to bucket splits?B  	 *** Humm?   & 25) What about alternate keys or RFAs?  	 *** Humm?    26) Five processing options:   - deferred-write - global buffer  - multiple buffer  - read-ahead - write-behind  C From the RMS docs "Increasing the size and number of buffers is the- quickest way to improve performance."  # 27) Should a segmented key be used?   D No, use an alternate key.  With HSM I don't have an option to change this, do I?  ' 28) Why use /NOSORT in CONVERT command?M   *** Humm...e  2 29) How can you optimize the optimization process?  F Place the original catalog, new catalog and working files on different drives.rF The working files appear to go to your sys$login directory.  Make sure your> sys$login device is not the same that for either catalog file.  F 30) Does the catalog need to be dedicated to the optimization process?  D Yes, shutdown HSM on all nodes.  Create a backup copy of the indexed
 file, then run the optimization sequence.   31) What about /GRANULARITY?   ***l  . 32) Can I CONVERT/RECLAIM an HSM indexed file?   *** Humm...    Donald G Pluggeo   ------------------------------  % Date: Wed, 03 Jan 2001 16:16:34 +0000E7 From: Lothar Geyer <Lothar.Geyer@EDV-Berater-Online.de>l- Subject: using a multihead XP1000 workstatione5 Message-ID: <3A535062.E20E48E9@EDV-Berater-Online.de>g   Hello,  A I want to run a XP1000 workstation with two graphics devices. ThewD console device is a VT420 connected to a serial device. The graphicsF devices will be used only for output. There are no mouses and only one  keyboard connected to the VT420.  H There should be two detached processes to display data on the monitor. ID have some problems to configure DECwindows to do so. As there are noE keyboards with the monitors a login is not possible (and not wanted)..  ( Could anyone give me some advice please?   Lothar Geyer   ------------------------------   Date: 3 Jan 2001 17:02:38 GMTI2 From: hoffman@xdelta.zko.dec.nospam (Hoff Hoffman)1 Subject: Re: using a multihead XP1000 workstation,6 Message-ID: <92vlve$e1f$1@mailint03.im.hou.compaq.com>  o In article <3A535062.E20E48E9@EDV-Berater-Online.de>, Lothar Geyer <Lothar.Geyer@EDV-Berater-Online.de> writes:p  A :I want to run a XP1000 workstation with two graphics devices....d  H :There should be two detached processes to display data on the monitor. G :I have some problems to configure DECwindows to do so. As there are noaF :keyboards with the monitors a login is not possible (and not wanted).  F   Workstations (and the associated system diagnostics) will generally ;   assume that a workstation keyboard and mouse are present.p  ) :Could anyone give me some advice please?s  F   Details on what you have tried, on what message(s) you've seen, and C   on what graphics controller is in use, which controller(s) are inlF   which slots, etc..., would be useful...  Without these, we can only $   guess at what has happened here...  F   In my experience, I tend to prefer multi-headed operations under theF   DECwindows Motif interface.  To cause DECwindows CDE to start up andF   use DECwindows Motif as the desktop, see DECW$PRIVATE_APPS_SETUP.COMG   (.TEMPLATE) -- I know of no way to switch the CDE default desktop to hG   DECwindows Motif during the login selection, while preserving access 3%   to both the CDE and Motif desktops.o  A   Attached are some general details on multi-headed operations...t  N  --------------------------- pure personal opinion ---------------------------L    Hoff (Stephen) Hoffman   OpenVMS Engineering   hoffman#xdelta.zko.dec.com    . 	--- DECwindows CDE multi-headed operations...    <     o Copy SYS$STARTUP:DECW$PRIVATE_SERVER_SETUP.TEMPLATE to0       SYS$STARTUP:DECW$PRIVATE_SERVER_SETUP.COM.  G       Set it up per the directions in the template comments.  (usually, '       only a few changes are required.)e  =       I'd not force the choice of the primary display via thep#       DECW$PRIMARY_DEVICE symbol.  l  E       A multi-headed configuration is detected by default and -- whenrC       present -- is the default configuration.  (No setup edits areu@       specifically required to select multi-headed operation...)  E       Set DECW$DEFAULT_KEYBOARD_MAP to your keyboard -- this is oftene       one of the following:t  ,         US_LK401AA (LK401, LK461, LK46W), or/                 Traditional OpenVMS keyboard....)         US_LK443AA_PC or _LK (PC keyboardtF                 PC keyboard, using the PC or the LK key definitions...  1       See DECW$KEYMAP: for the available keymaps.   H     o Read or copy over the text file CDE$SYSTEM_DEFAULTS:[man]DTWMRC.4,C       this describes how to alter SYS$LOGIN_DEVICE:[.DT]DTWMRC.DAT.V?       (DTWMRC.DAT is analogous to the SYS$LOGIN:DECW$MWM_RC.DAT *       `Motif Classic' configuration file.)  C       Set up the default root menu in DTWMRC.DAT to include variousiC       application controls -- most everything that can be performede@       via the CDE control panel can be done via DTWMRC.DAT, too.  D     o Once all the above procedures are in place, re-run the startupB       procedure "@SYS$STARTUP:DECW$STARTUP RESTART", and re-login.  D     o You can use <ALT><TAB> to cycle through the available windows.       --  D     Here's a local DTWMRC.DAT -- this shows how to customize the MB1D     popup on the screen background.  This is a very useful approach G     when adding commands and local features to CDE.  (For details, see  @     the man page SYS$SYSROOT:[CDE$DEFAULTS.SYSTEM.MAN]DTWMRC.4.)  F     AppMenu, shown below, can be used to invoke user-specifed commandsG     when MB1 is pressed on the root window...  In the example, just the0B     DECterm option is shown.  But it should give you some ideas...  <     The file DTWMRC.DAT normally resides in SYS$LOGIN:[.DT].       --   !-M ! Copyright  1990, 1993 Digital Equipment Corporation.  All rights reserved.n !                      uM !----------------------------------------------------------------------------h !i) ! Motif window manager configuration file  !u7 ! This contains all window manager menu definitions andd ! keyboard bindings. !n6 ! Here is a list of possible window manager functions: !-
 ! f.beep, M ! f.circle_down [icon|transient|window], f.circle_up[icon|transient|window], ) ! f.exec "Command",n. ! f.dec_customize DialogBox, f.dec_help Topic,% ! f.focus_color, f.focus_key, f.kill,9+ ! f.lower [freeFamily|within|-ClientName], C3 ! f.maximize, f.menu MenuName, f.minimize, f.move, :? ! f.next_cmap, f.next_key [icon|transient|window], f.pass_key,  2 ! f.prev_cmap, f.prev_key [icon|transient|window],, ! f.nop, f.normalize, f.normalize_and_raise,* ! f.pack_icons, f.post_smenu, f.quit_mwm, * ! f.raise [freeFamily|within|-ClientName], ! f.raise_lower, f.refresh_win ! f.refresh, f.resize,- ! f.restart, f.restore, f.restore_and_raise,   ! f.screen next|prev|back|#,< ! f.send_msg id, f.separator, f.set_behavior, f.title Title, !oD !------------------------------------------------------------------- ! ! !               Menu descriptions- !-& !    Workspace menu from MB1 on screen !n Menu DefaultRootMenu - {-0 	"Workspace"  	                          f.title> 	no-label	       	                  f.separator               6 	"Applications" 	  _A	                  f.menu AppMenu> 	no-label	       	                  f.separator               3 	"Shuffle Up"   	  _U	                  f.circle_up 5 	"Shuffle Down"	  _D 	                  f.circle_down"<         "Next Window"     _N                      f.next_key<         "Previous Window" _v                      f.prev_key> 	no-label	       	                  f.separator               ?         "Pack Icons"      _P                      f.pack_icons tI         "Options"         _O                      f.menu MwmCustomizeMenuc+ 	no-label	   	                  f.separatorS. 	"Restart..."	  _R	                  f.restartH         "Help"            _H                      f.menu MwmHelpMenu     }c
 Menu AppMenu e {r+ 	"Applications"  	                  f.titlemB 	"DECterm" 	  _D	                  f.exec "create/terminal/detach" 	... }s   	...       --  ?     A local DECwindows Motif SYS$LOGIN:DECW$MWM_RC.DAT follows:g   !eM ! Copyright  1990, 1993 Digital Equipment Corporation.  All rights reserved.n !                      sM !----------------------------------------------------------------------------h !t( ! Motif window manager configuation file !l7 ! This contains all window manager menu definitions andc ! keyboard bindings. !s6 ! Here is a list of possible window manager functions: ! 
 ! f.beep, M ! f.circle_down [icon|transient|window], f.circle_up[icon|transient|window], f ! f.exec "Command",o. ! f.dec_customize DialogBox, f.dec_help Topic,% ! f.focus_color, f.focus_key, f.kill, + ! f.lower [freeFamily|within|-ClientName],  3 ! f.maximize, f.menu MenuName, f.minimize, f.move, R? ! f.next_cmap, f.next_key [icon|transient|window], f.pass_key, n2 ! f.prev_cmap, f.prev_key [icon|transient|window],, ! f.nop, f.normalize, f.normalize_and_raise,* ! f.pack_icons, f.post_smenu, f.quit_mwm, * ! f.raise [freeFamily|within|-ClientName], ! f.raise_lower, f.refresh_win ! f.refresh, f.resize,- ! f.restart, f.restore, f.restore_and_raise, l ! f.screen next|prev|back|#,< ! f.send_msg id, f.separator, f.set_behavior, f.title Title, !eD !------------------------------------------------------------------- !o! !               Menu descriptionsw !d& !    Workspace menu from MB1 on screen !T Menu DefaultRootMenu q {y0 	"Workspace"  	                          f.title> 	no-label	       	                  f.separator               6 	"Applications" 	  _A	                  f.menu AppMenu> 	no-label	       	                  f.separator               3 	"Shuffle Up"   	  _U	                  f.circle_upr5 	"Shuffle Down"	  _D 	                  f.circle_down <         "Next Window"     _N                      f.next_key<         "Previous Window" _v                      f.prev_key> 	no-label	       	                  f.separator               ?         "Pack Icons"      _P                      f.pack_icons aI         "Options"         _O                      f.menu MwmCustomizeMenu}+ 	no-label	   	                  f.separatorg. 	"Restart..."	  _R	                  f.restartH         "Help"            _H                      f.menu MwmHelpMenu     }H
 Menu AppMenu m { + 	"Applications"  	                  f.title B 	"DECterm" 	  _D	                  f.exec "create/terminal/detach" .. }e !nD !------------------------------------------------------------------- !F% !    Workspace menu from Window menu n !u Menu WorkspaceMenu a {e3 	"Shuffle Up"   	  _U	                  f.circle_up 5 	"Shuffle Down"	  _D 	                  f.circle_down <         "Next Window"     _N                      f.next_key<         "Previous Window" _v                      f.prev_key> 	no-label	       	                  f.separator               ?         "Pack Icons"      _P                      f.pack_icons oI         "Options"         _O                      f.menu MwmCustomizeMenuo+ 	no-label	   	                  f.separatorn. 	"Restart..."	  _R	                  f.restart }                          !)D !------------------------------------------------------------------- !m% !    Customize menu from window menu s !    a Menu MwmCustomizeMenun { >        	"Workspace..."     _W        f.dec_customize workspace4 	"Border..."        _B        f.dec_customize border9 	"Border Colors..." _o        f.dec_customize bordercolorz:         "Icons..."         _I        f.dec_customize icons>         "Icon Colors..."   _c        f.dec_customize iconcolor:         "Matte..."         _M        f.dec_customize matte! 	no-label	      	     f.separators7         "Apply Options"       _A  f.dec_customize applysA         "Reset to Last Applied Options" _R  f.dec_customize resetRB         "Reset to Default"             _D  f.dec_customize default }a !uD !------------------------------------------------------------------- !p !    Help menu from window menun !w Menu MwmHelpMenu         { + 	"Overview"               _O f.dec_help mwma8         "Shortcuts"              _S f.dec_help shortcuts4         "Glossary"               _G f.dec_help terms6         "Product Information"    _P f.dec_help version }                          !sD !------------------------------------------------------------------- !t' !    Menu associated with window borderr !      Menu DefaultWindowMenu {n$ 	"Restore"	_R	Alt<Key>F5	f.normalize 	"Move"		_M	Alt<Key>F7	f.moveb! 	"Size"	  	_S	Alt<Key>F8	f.resizep$ 	"Minimize"	_n	Alt<Key>F9	f.minimize% 	"Maximize"	_x	Alt<Key>F10	f.maximizet( 	"Lower"         _L	Alt<Key>F3	f.lower	          no-label				f.separatorrD         "Workspace"     _W                      f.menu WorkspaceMenu 	"Close"		_C	Alt<Key>F4	f.killJ         "Help"          _H                      f.menu MwmHelpMenu         }t ! D !------------------------------------------------------------------- !d& !    Menu associated with the icon box !p Menu IconBoxMenu {e$ 	"Restore"	_R	Alt<Key>F5	f.normalize 	"Move"		_M	Alt<Key>F7	f.movep 	"Size"		_S	Alt<Key>F8	f.resizeo$ 	"Minimize"	_n	Alt<Key>F9	f.minimize% 	"Maximize"	_x	Alt<Key>F10	f.maximize  	"Lower"		_L	Alt<Key>F3	f.lower "   	 no-label				f.separator       D         "Workspace"     _W                      f.menu WorkspaceMenu:      	"Pack Icons"   	_P     	Shift<Key>F12   f.pack_iconsJ         "Help"          _H                      f.menu MwmHelpMenu         }  !tD !------------------------------------------------------------------- !  !               Key bindings !  Keys DefaultKeyBindings  {2+ 	Shift<Key>Escape	window|icon		f.post_wmenui4 ! Commented out to avoid conflict with Compose space* !	Alt<Key>space		window|icon		f.post_wmenu) 	Alt<Key>Tab		root|icon|window	f.next_key5. 	Alt Shift<Key>Tab	root|icon|window	f.prev_key- 	Alt<Key>Escape		root|icon|window	f.circle_upM7 	Alt Shift<Key>1         root|icon|window	f.circle_downc: 	Alt Shift Ctrl<Key>exclam root|icon|window	f.set_behavior8 	Alt Ctrl<Key>exclam     root|icon|window	f.set_behavior= 	Alt Shift<Key>F3        window           	f.lower freeFamily.2 	Ctrl<Key>F3             window           	f.raiseJ        	Alt Ctrl<Key>F3         window                  f.raise freeFamily* 	Alt<Key>F6		window			f.next_key transient/ 	Alt Shift<Key>F6	window			f.prev_key transients$ 	Ctrl<Key>F6		window			f.screen next) 	Ctrl Shift<Key>F6	window			f.screen preveG 	Ctrl<Key>F10           	root|icon|window        f.menu	DefaultRootMenue. 	Shift<Key>F10 		icon    	       	f.post_wmenu }eA !                                                                iD !------------------------------------------------------------------- !n !               Button Bindings  !a Buttons DefaultButtonBindingsH {S& 	<Btn1Down>	        icon|frame	f.raise; 	Alt<Btn2Click>         	icon|frame     	f.raise freeFamily 5 	Shift Alt<Btn2Click>  	icon|frame	f.lower freeFamilyc+ 	<Btn3Down>	        icon|frame	f.post_wmenu57         <Btn1Down>	        root		f.menu	DefaultRootMenuC7         <Btn3Down>	        root		f.menu	DefaultRootMenu :         <Btn1Click2>            title           f.minimize:         Shift <Btn1Click2>      icon            f.minimize7         Shift <Btn1Click>       icon|frame      f.lower @         Ctrl <Btn1Click>        root|icon|frame f.next_key      @         Ctrl Shift <Btn1Click>  root|icon|frame f.prev_key      D         Alt <Btn1Click>         root|icon|frame f.next_key transientD         Alt Shift <Btn1Click>   root|icon|frame f.prev_key transient6        	Alt <Btn1Click2>	root|icon|frame f.screen next4 	Alt Shift<Btn1Click2>	root|icon|frame f.screen prev }a   ------------------------------  % Date: Wed, 03 Jan 2001 19:22:00 +0000t7 From: Lothar Geyer <Lothar.Geyer@EDV-Berater-Online.de>s1 Subject: Re: using a multihead XP1000 workstationf5 Message-ID: <3A537BD8.FC331DED@EDV-Berater-Online.de>    Hoff Hoffman schrieb:y > q > In article <3A535062.E20E48E9@EDV-Berater-Online.de>, Lothar Geyer <Lothar.Geyer@EDV-Berater-Online.de> writes:M > C > :I want to run a XP1000 workstation with two graphics devices....l > I > :There should be two detached processes to display data on the monitor. I > :I have some problems to configure DECwindows to do so. As there are nopH > :keyboards with the monitors a login is not possible (and not wanted). > G >   Workstations (and the associated system diagnostics) will generallyu= >   assume that a workstation keyboard and mouse are present.c > + > :Could anyone give me some advice please?h > G >   Details on what you have tried, on what message(s) you've seen, andsE >   on what graphics controller is in use, which controller(s) are inhG >   which slots, etc..., would be useful...  Without these, we can onlym& >   guess at what has happened here... > H >   In my experience, I tend to prefer multi-headed operations under theH >   DECwindows Motif interface.  To cause DECwindows CDE to start up andH >   use DECwindows Motif as the desktop, see DECW$PRIVATE_APPS_SETUP.COMH >   (.TEMPLATE) -- I know of no way to switch the CDE default desktop toH >   DECwindows Motif during the login selection, while preserving access' >   to both the CDE and Motif desktops.i >     H I want to display data on the monitor using DECforms, either a VT_Layout$ using DECterm or a X-Windows layout.  G I think my problem is, that I have to go around the login process. So I G modified DECW$STARTAPPS.COM where the image DECW$STARTLOGIN is started.l I.E replaced this and wnated to start DECW$CLOCK. I get the error message5  % XIO : unable to open connection WSAn:e# X Toolkit Error: Can't open displaya   Lothar Geyer    C >   Attached are some general details on multi-headed operations...i > P >  --------------------------- pure personal opinion ---------------------------N >    Hoff (Stephen) Hoffman   OpenVMS Engineering   hoffman#xdelta.zko.dec.com > 7 >         --- DECwindows CDE multi-headed operations...g > > >     o Copy SYS$STARTUP:DECW$PRIVATE_SERVER_SETUP.TEMPLATE to2 >       SYS$STARTUP:DECW$PRIVATE_SERVER_SETUP.COM. > I >       Set it up per the directions in the template comments.  (usually,-) >       only a few changes are required.)r > ? >       I'd not force the choice of the primary display via thea# >       DECW$PRIMARY_DEVICE symbol.g > G >       A multi-headed configuration is detected by default and -- when4E >       present -- is the default configuration.  (No setup edits arenB >       specifically required to select multi-headed operation...) > G >       Set DECW$DEFAULT_KEYBOARD_MAP to your keyboard -- this is oftenn >       one of the following:o > . >         US_LK401AA (LK401, LK461, LK46W), or1 >                 Traditional OpenVMS keyboard...o+ >         US_LK443AA_PC or _LK (PC keyboardnH >                 PC keyboard, using the PC or the LK key definitions... > 3 >       See DECW$KEYMAP: for the available keymaps.  > J >     o Read or copy over the text file CDE$SYSTEM_DEFAULTS:[man]DTWMRC.4,E >       this describes how to alter SYS$LOGIN_DEVICE:[.DT]DTWMRC.DAT.cA >       (DTWMRC.DAT is analogous to the SYS$LOGIN:DECW$MWM_RC.DATt, >       `Motif Classic' configuration file.) > E >       Set up the default root menu in DTWMRC.DAT to include varioustE >       application controls -- most everything that can be performedtB >       via the CDE control panel can be done via DTWMRC.DAT, too. > F >     o Once all the above procedures are in place, re-run the startupD >       procedure "@SYS$STARTUP:DECW$STARTUP RESTART", and re-login. > F >     o You can use <ALT><TAB> to cycle through the available windows. >  >     -- > F >     Here's a local DTWMRC.DAT -- this shows how to customize the MB1E >     popup on the screen background.  This is a very useful approachaH >     when adding commands and local features to CDE.  (For details, seeB >     the man page SYS$SYSROOT:[CDE$DEFAULTS.SYSTEM.MAN]DTWMRC.4.) > H >     AppMenu, shown below, can be used to invoke user-specifed commandsI >     when MB1 is pressed on the root window...  In the example, just the D >     DECterm option is shown.  But it should give you some ideas... > > >     The file DTWMRC.DAT normally resides in SYS$LOGIN:[.DT]. >  >     -- >  > !tO > ! Copyright  1990, 1993 Digital Equipment Corporation.  All rights reserved.h > !aO > !----------------------------------------------------------------------------u > !e+ > ! Motif window manager configuration fileK > !R9 > ! This contains all window manager menu definitions andf > ! keyboard bindings. > !18 > ! Here is a list of possible window manager functions: > !M > ! f.beep,.N > ! f.circle_down [icon|transient|window], f.circle_up[icon|transient|window], > ! f.exec "Command",e0 > ! f.dec_customize DialogBox, f.dec_help Topic,' > ! f.focus_color, f.focus_key, f.kill,e, > ! f.lower [freeFamily|within|-ClientName],4 > ! f.maximize, f.menu MenuName, f.minimize, f.move,@ > ! f.next_cmap, f.next_key [icon|transient|window], f.pass_key,4 > ! f.prev_cmap, f.prev_key [icon|transient|window],. > ! f.nop, f.normalize, f.normalize_and_raise,+ > ! f.pack_icons, f.post_smenu, f.quit_mwm,l, > ! f.raise [freeFamily|within|-ClientName],  > ! f.raise_lower, f.refresh_win > ! f.refresh, f.resize,. > ! f.restart, f.restore, f.restore_and_raise, > ! f.screen next|prev|back|#,> > ! f.send_msg id, f.separator, f.set_behavior, f.title Title, > !rF > !------------------------------------------------------------------- > !w# > !               Menu descriptionsW > !A( > !    Workspace menu from MB1 on screen > !o > Menu DefaultRootMenu > { ; >         "Workspace"                               f.titled? >         no-label                                  f.separatorSB >         "Applications"    _A                      f.menu AppMenu? >         no-label                                  f.separatori? >         "Shuffle Up"      _U                      f.circle_upEA >         "Shuffle Down"    _D                      f.circle_down > >         "Next Window"     _N                      f.next_key> >         "Previous Window" _v                      f.prev_key? >         no-label                                  f.separator-@ >         "Pack Icons"      _P                      f.pack_iconsK >         "Options"         _O                      f.menu MwmCustomizeMenuw? >         no-label                                  f.separatori= >         "Restart..."      _R                      f.restart F >         "Help"            _H                      f.menu MwmHelpMenu > }) > Menu AppMenu > {n; >         "Applications"                            f.titleoS >         "DECterm"         _D                      f.exec "create/terminal/detach"e
 >         ...m > }m > 
 >         ...  >  >     -- > A >     A local DECwindows Motif SYS$LOGIN:DECW$MWM_RC.DAT follows:e >  > !oO > ! Copyright  1990, 1993 Digital Equipment Corporation.  All rights reserved.s > !oO > !----------------------------------------------------------------------------e > !r* > ! Motif window manager configuation file > !f9 > ! This contains all window manager menu definitions and| > ! keyboard bindings. > !t8 > ! Here is a list of possible window manager functions: > !- > ! f.beep,-N > ! f.circle_down [icon|transient|window], f.circle_up[icon|transient|window], > ! f.exec "Command",10 > ! f.dec_customize DialogBox, f.dec_help Topic,' > ! f.focus_color, f.focus_key, f.kill,e, > ! f.lower [freeFamily|within|-ClientName],4 > ! f.maximize, f.menu MenuName, f.minimize, f.move,@ > ! f.next_cmap, f.next_key [icon|transient|window], f.pass_key,4 > ! f.prev_cmap, f.prev_key [icon|transient|window],. > ! f.nop, f.normalize, f.normalize_and_raise,+ > ! f.pack_icons, f.post_smenu, f.quit_mwm,d, > ! f.raise [freeFamily|within|-ClientName],  > ! f.raise_lower, f.refresh_win > ! f.refresh, f.resize,. > ! f.restart, f.restore, f.restore_and_raise, > ! f.screen next|prev|back|#,> > ! f.send_msg id, f.separator, f.set_behavior, f.title Title, > ! F > !------------------------------------------------------------------- > ! # > !               Menu descriptions	 > ! ( > !    Workspace menu from MB1 on screen > !  > Menu DefaultRootMenu > { ; >         "Workspace"                               f.titles? >         no-label                                  f.separator B >         "Applications"    _A                      f.menu AppMenu? >         no-label                                  f.separatore? >         "Shuffle Up"      _U                      f.circle_upgA >         "Shuffle Down"    _D                      f.circle_down-> >         "Next Window"     _N                      f.next_key> >         "Previous Window" _v                      f.prev_key? >         no-label                                  f.separatore@ >         "Pack Icons"      _P                      f.pack_iconsK >         "Options"         _O                      f.menu MwmCustomizeMenuf? >         no-label                                  f.separatoro= >         "Restart..."      _R                      f.restartmF >         "Help"            _H                      f.menu MwmHelpMenu > }, > Menu AppMenu > {n; >         "Applications"                            f.title,S >         "DECterm"         _D                      f.exec "create/terminal/detach"  > .. > }s > !oF > !------------------------------------------------------------------- > !_& > !    Workspace menu from Window menu > !  > Menu WorkspaceMenu > {e? >         "Shuffle Up"      _U                      f.circle_up,A >         "Shuffle Down"    _D                      f.circle_down-> >         "Next Window"     _N                      f.next_key> >         "Previous Window" _v                      f.prev_key? >         no-label                                  f.separator @ >         "Pack Icons"      _P                      f.pack_iconsK >         "Options"         _O                      f.menu MwmCustomizeMenu ? >         no-label                                  f.separator"= >         "Restart..."      _R                      f.restarto > }  > ! F > !------------------------------------------------------------------- > ! & > !    Customize menu from window menu > !  > Menu MwmCustomizeMenuv > { @ >         "Workspace..."     _W        f.dec_customize workspace= >         "Border..."        _B        f.dec_customize border B >         "Border Colors..." _o        f.dec_customize bordercolor< >         "Icons..."         _I        f.dec_customize icons@ >         "Icon Colors..."   _c        f.dec_customize iconcolor< >         "Matte..."         _M        f.dec_customize matte2 >         no-label                     f.separator9 >         "Apply Options"       _A  f.dec_customize applynC >         "Reset to Last Applied Options" _R  f.dec_customize reset-D >         "Reset to Default"             _D  f.dec_customize default > }u > !sF > !------------------------------------------------------------------- > !l! > !    Help menu from window menui > !d > Menu MwmHelpMenu > {w4 >         "Overview"               _O f.dec_help mwm: >         "Shortcuts"              _S f.dec_help shortcuts6 >         "Glossary"               _G f.dec_help terms8 >         "Product Information"    _P f.dec_help version > }  > ! F > !------------------------------------------------------------------- > !e) > !    Menu associated with window bordert > !. > Menu DefaultWindowMenu > {a= >         "Restore"       _R      Alt<Key>F5      f.normalize-8 >         "Move"          _M      Alt<Key>F7      f.move: >         "Size"          _S      Alt<Key>F8      f.resize< >         "Minimize"      _n      Alt<Key>F9      f.minimize< >         "Maximize"      _x      Alt<Key>F10     f.maximize9 >         "Lower"         _L      Alt<Key>F3      f.lower = >         no-label                                f.separator F >         "Workspace"     _W                      f.menu WorkspaceMenu8 >         "Close"         _C      Alt<Key>F4      f.killD >         "Help"          _H                      f.menu MwmHelpMenu > }p > ! F > !------------------------------------------------------------------- > !R( > !    Menu associated with the icon box > !e > Menu IconBoxMenu > {-= >         "Restore"       _R      Alt<Key>F5      f.normalizep8 >         "Move"          _M      Alt<Key>F7      f.move: >         "Size"          _S      Alt<Key>F8      f.resize< >         "Minimize"      _n      Alt<Key>F9      f.minimize< >         "Maximize"      _x      Alt<Key>F10     f.maximize9 >         "Lower"         _L      Alt<Key>F3      f.lower = >          no-label                               f.separator-F >         "Workspace"     _W                      f.menu WorkspaceMenu> >         "Pack Icons"    _P      Shift<Key>F12   f.pack_iconsD >         "Help"          _H                      f.menu MwmHelpMenu > }i > !eF > !------------------------------------------------------------------- > !  > !               Key bindings > !  > Keys DefaultKeyBindings  > { F >         Shift<Key>Escape        window|icon             f.post_wmenu6 > ! Commented out to avoid conflict with Compose spaceF > !       Alt<Key>space           window|icon             f.post_wmenuD >         Alt<Key>Tab             root|icon|window        f.next_keyD >         Alt Shift<Key>Tab       root|icon|window        f.prev_keyE >         Alt<Key>Escape          root|icon|window        f.circle_up8G >         Alt Shift<Key>1         root|icon|window        f.circle_downFH >         Alt Shift Ctrl<Key>exclam root|icon|window      f.set_behaviorH >         Alt Ctrl<Key>exclam     root|icon|window        f.set_behaviorL >         Alt Shift<Key>F3        window                  f.lower freeFamilyA >         Ctrl<Key>F3             window                  f.raise L >         Alt Ctrl<Key>F3         window                  f.raise freeFamilyN >         Alt<Key>F6              window                  f.next_key transientN >         Alt Shift<Key>F6        window                  f.prev_key transientG >         Ctrl<Key>F6             window                  f.screen next|G >         Ctrl Shift<Key>F6       window                  f.screen prevKQ >         Ctrl<Key>F10            root|icon|window        f.menu  DefaultRootMenu	F >         Shift<Key>F10           icon                    f.post_wmenu > }A > !rF > !------------------------------------------------------------------- > !n! > !               Button Bindings  > !< > Buttons DefaultButtonBindings  > {r9 >         <Btn1Down>              icon|frame      f.raise D >         Alt<Btn2Click>          icon|frame      f.raise freeFamilyD >         Shift Alt<Btn2Click>    icon|frame      f.lower freeFamily> >         <Btn3Down>              icon|frame      f.post_wmenuI >         <Btn1Down>              root            f.menu  DefaultRootMenuKI >         <Btn3Down>              root            f.menu  DefaultRootMenu < >         <Btn1Click2>            title           f.minimize< >         Shift <Btn1Click2>      icon            f.minimize9 >         Shift <Btn1Click>       icon|frame      f.lower < >         Ctrl <Btn1Click>        root|icon|frame f.next_key< >         Ctrl Shift <Btn1Click>  root|icon|frame f.prev_keyF >         Alt <Btn1Click>         root|icon|frame f.next_key transientF >         Alt Shift <Btn1Click>   root|icon|frame f.prev_key transient? >         Alt <Btn1Click2>        root|icon|frame f.screen nextC? >         Alt Shift<Btn1Click2>   root|icon|frame f.screen prevC > }>   ------------------------------  # Date: Tue, 02 Jan 2001 23:34:04 GMTa From: Matt@synergen.com " Subject: VMS Networking and TCP/IP) Message-ID: <92tohc$q7q$1@nnrp1.deja.com>t  
 Greetings,  F We are running VAX VMS 5.5 on a Digital MicroVAX 3+. Recently we had aC hard drive failure that killed our DUA0.  I have rebuilt everythingrD except I do not know how to name the machine and give it the IP.  ItE was previously named and had an IP.  The network hardware consists of C an AUI going out through BNC to RJ45.  The software I have is Cisco0? Multinet.  Can someone point me in the right direction for somejC instructions on how to do this.  Sincerely confused...  Any help is. welcome.   Thanks.O     Sent via Deja.comm http://www.deja.com/   ------------------------------  % Date: Tue, 02 Jan 2001 21:21:13 -0600y7 From: "David J. Dachtera" <djesys.nospam@earthlink.net>a& Subject: Re: VMS Networking and TCP/IP, Message-ID: <3A529AA9.F77C5C9@earthlink.net>   Matt@synergen.com wrote: >  > Greetings, > H > We are running VAX VMS 5.5 on a Digital MicroVAX 3+. Recently we had aE > hard drive failure that killed our DUA0.  I have rebuilt everything F > except I do not know how to name the machine and give it the IP.  ItG > was previously named and had an IP.  The network hardware consists of E > an AUI going out through BNC to RJ45.  The software I have is CiscooA > Multinet.  Can someone point me in the right direction for somepE > instructions on how to do this.  Sincerely confused...  Any help is,
 > welcome.  : I take it no backups were available from which to restore.   You'll want to look at:    $ MULT CONF/NETe   ...and review the on-line help.r   -- u David J. Dachteran dba DJE Systemsa http://www.djesys.com/  : Unofficial Affordable OpenVMS Home Page and Message Board: http://www.djesys.com/vms/soho/   F This *IS* an OpenVMS-related newsgroup. So, a certain bias in postings is to be expected.  @ Feel free to exercise your rights of free speech and expression.  F However, attacks against individual posters, or groups of posters, are strongly discouraged.a   ------------------------------  $ Date: Wed, 3 Jan 2001 16:22:08 +0900 From: "SEN" <SEN@lycos.co.kr>o& Subject: Re: VMS Networking and TCP/IP( Message-ID: <92ujnt$1t3$1@news.nuri.net>   Hi~d You can use the DCL command...   Input Command..K $ ucx    ------------------------------  % Date: Wed, 03 Jan 2001 08:55:49 -0900o9 From: "Julliard, Alan T." <JulliardAT@ci.anchorage.ak.us>e& Subject: RE: VMS Networking and TCP/IP> Message-ID: <5EBCB843B341D411B40A000629382DEC01501CD6@DILBERT>  K Process Software owns Multinet now, not Cisco.  Though you probably have aneF old version, you can find documentation that will probably help you atD http://www.process.com/tcpip/multinet.html, or, specifically to your questions about name and ip,J http://www.multinet.process.com/multinet-docs/admin_guide/httoc.htm.  Good luck!o   > -----Original Message-----2 > From:	Matt@synergen.com [SMTP:Matt@synergen.com]) > Sent:	Tuesday, January 02, 2001 2:34 PMh > To:	Info-VAX@Mvb.Saic.Com $ > Subject:	VMS Networking and TCP/IP >  > Greetings, > H > We are running VAX VMS 5.5 on a Digital MicroVAX 3+. Recently we had aE > hard drive failure that killed our DUA0.  I have rebuilt everythingyF > except I do not know how to name the machine and give it the IP.  ItG > was previously named and had an IP.  The network hardware consists offE > an AUI going out through BNC to RJ45.  The software I have is Cisco A > Multinet.  Can someone point me in the right direction for some E > instructions on how to do this.  Sincerely confused...  Any help ise
 > welcome. > 	 > Thanks.  >  >  > Sent via Deja.comt > http://www.deja.com/   ------------------------------   Date: 3 Jan 2001 11:37:27 GMTn9 From: Roar =?iso-8859-1?Q?Thron=E6s?= <roart@nvg.ntnu.no>E( Subject: Re: vms software administration3 Message-ID: <978522077.173678@tornado.itea.ntnu.no>   3 Hoff Hoffman <hoffman@xdelta.zko.dec.nospam> wrote:e  q : In article <978449793.757827@tornado.itea.ntnu.no>, Roar =?iso-8859-1?Q?Thron=E6s?= <roart@nvg.ntnu.no> writes:n  D : :After a number of software installations (and especially the ones@ : :which is neither pcsi nor saveset based), the sylogin.com andH : :systartup_vms.com files is starting to become a bit large and chaotic : :with internal dependensies.6 : :Also, keeping track of versions etc is also needed.  A Seems I should have mentioned that being neither pcsi nor saveset ? (I meant vmsinstal) based would imply it being mostly freeware.T  H :   We tried that, and the interdependencies and interrelationships are . :   exceedingly complex problems to resolve...  I :   You can find some of the underpinnings of the work that was performedlA :   in this area in VMSINSTAL and in the SYSMAN startup database.   J : :How is the availability of utilities capable of handling such software,O : :including generating scripts to be run by sylogin.com and systartup_vms.com?o  I :   Generation of scripts is trivial for most cases, it's the sequencing 9G :   of the scripts that is the central problem...  (I've dealt with and-G :   developed a healthy respect for dependency analysis as part of the -; :   OpenVMS Engineering VDE source code control package...)    : :I have not found any such.g  C :   What would you have happen?  How would you expect this to work?i  @ A rather primitive ordering like 50_sylogin.com, 70_sylogin.com,H nothing like PCSI og VMSINSTAL, because there is not much need for more.  I : :I am in part underway of making a VMS port of a (perl) utility in Unix < : :called Store. :(Works good enough to put to ordinary use)  + :   And therein lies the central problem...n  : : :(See http://www.pvv.ntnu.no/~arnej/store/storedoc.html)! : :VMS differences from that doc: # : :The use of .s and @s is changed.nC : :The linktree concept is not useful (even with DCL$PATH, I think)k; : :Generation of scripts for sylogin.com and systartup.com.i : :- : :How does this utility sound?f  L :   We have PCSI, VMSINSTAL, and VMSUPDATE...  As part of the DII COE work, M :   we are  adding the COE segment installer...  I'd certainly be interested eL :   in acquiring a port of this STORE tool for the Freeware CD-ROM, but I'd N :   personally look to something like the COE segment installer for this task.  5 PCSI and VMSINSTAL use DCLTABLES, but sylogin.com ando0 systartup_vms.com need .coms inserted here also.  I I am currently using store with freeware (some from the freeware cd/www). B (With adding transport mechanisms like ftp and http, it would make) freeware installations easier and faster)   - There will be an example saveset available onu ftp.nvg.ntnu.no:/pub/vms/store (I hope it will work)   + I will be checking up a bit more a DII COE.   9 When will the COE segment installer be available for VMS?   < Will the COE segment installer be easy to use with freeware?   -- .
 -Roar Throns    ------------------------------  # Date: Wed, 03 Jan 2001 17:02:02 GMTc  From: jlsue <jlsuexxxz@home.com>( Subject: Re: vms software administration8 Message-ID: <4tk65tgkvvm52l02r3tm39er53t3r8oerv@4ax.com>  ? On 2 Jan 2001 17:22:39 GMT, hoffman@xdelta.zko.dec.nospam (Hoff  Hoffman) wrote:    >Rp >In article <978449793.757827@tornado.itea.ntnu.no>, Roar =?iso-8859-1?Q?Thron=E6s?= <roart@nvg.ntnu.no> writes: >uC >:After a number of software installations (and especially the ones.? >:which is neither pcsi nor saveset based), the sylogin.com andcG >:systartup_vms.com files is starting to become a bit large and chaotic  >:with internal dependensies.w5 >:Also, keeping track of versions etc is also needed.  > G >  We tried that, and the interdependencies and interrelationships are e- >  exceedingly complex problems to resolve...- >-H >  You can find some of the underpinnings of the work that was performed@ >  in this area in VMSINSTAL and in the SYSMAN startup database.  C At one of my previous employers we solved this issue... even to the A extent of writing our own SYSMAN-type utility (one that wasn't soe. serial in execution of commands cluster-wide).  E What resulted was a "configuration database" (a.la. registry) of many,C elements that show up in SYPAGSWPFILES.COM, SYSTARTUP & SYSHUTDOWN,oF and even parts of SYLOGIN (many of the symbol setups).  This included:F symbols definitions (SYLOGIN.COM), disks (including initializing - for< copying similar disk initialization, mounting, and extensive< information for the SLS and DEFRAG operations), applicationsD (including include/exclude list for clusters, startup file, shutdown= command, and an "after" field for ordering of dependencies inf applications).  C This database was an ISAM file modeled somewhat after the x-windows,D resource files, with 4 fields:  OBJ TYPE (e.g., APPL, DISK, LATHOST,C LATLINK, LATSERV, etc), OBJ NAME, OBJ PARAMETER NAME, VALUE.  These-A field were seperated by a control-a character and the first threea. elements made up the isam key.  For example:    8  APPL^ARDBV70^ASTARTUP^ASYS$STARTUP:RDBVMS70_STARTUP.COM"  APPL^ARDBV70^AAFTER^ADECNET,TCPIP  C The above example shows two parameters (startup procedure name, and"? applications that must start *before* this application) for the F application called RDBV70.  There were also "parameters" for the P1-P8E needs of dcl procedures.  AND, there were ".nodename" versions of the F parameters that allowed for node-specific values for these paramaters.D Allowing different nodes to execute differently (e.g., VAX and Alpha@ nodes).  If you had a loop in your "after" params, then you'd beE sol... IIRC, it would just pick one and start there.  But hey, it was F *much* easier to manage cluster-wide apps with this system.  Trust me.  E Upon startup, our "standard" systartup_vms.com procedure would read a.B small, 3-line data file to determine where the configdb was, mount@ that drive, execute the procedure to define the configdb-relatedC logicals, then create a startup driver process.  This process would F create 4 detached processes (4 by default, configdb info could controlE this), mount the appropriate disks, read through the applications and-< order the list based on "after" parameters, and begin firingA applications to the detached processes.  Any single process couldsE fail, and the driver would merely create another to replace it.  WheniF a process complete a startup, it would signal the driver process whichB would send it another application.  Log files for each applicationA (and each process) were kept in a [.log] directory to be reviewed  later.  F There is a lot more to this, we really did a lot of design and testingF to make it work well in a very diverse environment.  We wrote programsC with a DCL interface to manage each object type (e.g., APPLICATION,bB DISK, etc).  This could be modified to execute commands from a webB browser, I suppose.  It was *very* flexible (including a "generic"D utility, using LIB$TPARSE, to create your own "object types" without> requiring you to write special management utilities for each).   The major benefits were:  E * easy to manage applications, disks, etc, in a clustered environment   E * faster startup due to the simultaneous nature of the startup driver   D * application developers (in-house) *could* develop appropriate code? to automatically add their application to the startup sequence,dA assuming proper standardization of application names.  And it wascE simple enough for a system manager to come alone later and modify the C "after" field when necessary.  (I say *could* because after I left,RF nobody attempted to enforce standards on the app development groups to reap all of the benefits).  B * you were pretty much guaranteed that the system manager would be7 able to logon the system after boot, even if there werel/ "%SYSTEM-F-FATAL" errors in some app's startup.u  B We even did a *lot* of work to integrate the Polycenter managementE products into it (r.i.p.) - note, this was implemented back in Spring"B of 1994 on over 2000 systems at the company.  We even had a really; neat conversion utility to help build the initial configdb.-  C Lastly, there was a SYSMAN replacement that had server processes oniC each system and when you did a APPLICATION STARTUP/CLUSTER it would C signal every node to wake up and simultaneously execute the startupM? (after the node verified that it was included for that object).   D It was a really nice achievement, and it definitely showed that thisC complex issue can be handled much more smoothly than SYSMAN STARTUPe and SMISERVER does currently.   C If only Digital (at the time) had taken a much more serious look at / what we developed, we'd all have it easier now.       1 Not speaking for anyone, certainly not DEC/Compaqe- (get rid of the xxxx in my address to e-mail)>   ------------------------------  # Date: Wed, 03 Jan 2001 14:05:06 GMTM8 From: "Volckaerts, Tommy" <Tommy.Volckaerts@Advalvas.be>+ Subject: voor de belgische Alpha gebruikers 7 Message-ID: <mkG46.774$m52.39717@nreader2.kpnqwest.net>B   Te koop-  8 Digital PWS 500a met 500mhz cpu (mogelijk met 2mb cache)
 scsi-cdrom
 4,3gb uw disk  128 ECC ram (mogelijk 256) no vga floppy  C kan Openvms, Unix, linux, nt4 (ja het kan maar wie wil dat) draaien"   40.000 fr regio leuven brussel   ------------------------------   Date: 3 Jan 2001 16:50:37 GMTe2 From: hoffman@xdelta.zko.dec.nospam (Hoff Hoffman)/ Subject: Re: voor de belgische Alpha gebruikers 6 Message-ID: <92vl8t$doh$2@mailint03.im.hou.compaq.com>  r In article <mkG46.774$m52.39717@nreader2.kpnqwest.net>, "Volckaerts, Tommy" <Tommy.Volckaerts@Advalvas.be> writes:9 :Digital PWS 500a met 500mhz cpu (mogelijk met 2mb cache)i ..D :kan Openvms, Unix, linux, nt4 (ja het kan maar wie wil dat) draaien  E   Please note that this system is NOT officially supported by OpenVMSgF   nor by Tru64 UNIX.  You might or might not be successful getting theE   system to bootstrap, using the hobbyist license and distribution...   N  --------------------------- pure personal opinion ---------------------------L    Hoff (Stephen) Hoffman   OpenVMS Engineering   hoffman#xdelta.zko.dec.com   ------------------------------    Date: 03 Jan 2001 05:27:50 +0800, From: Paul Repacholi <prep@prep.synonet.com>& Subject: Re: VR241 monitor and S-video0 Message-ID: <87ofxpzlt5.fsf@k9.prep.synonet.com>  , Brent Cook <busterb@mail.utexas.edu> writes:   > "Bart Z. Lederman" wrote:K > ? > > I have only seen S-video used on "TV" type equipment.  I'vehC > > never seen a computer monitor that will accept S-video as input  > > or output. > I > The Commodore C1702 Monitors had luminance and chroma inputs that couldiG > probably be adapted to svideo, but I guess that's not really what you  > asked.  A Can't remember if it was the Commodore, but one at least of about A that vintage has S-videos on them. BBC micro, or Amstrad comes toF mind, but I'm not sure.    --  < Paul Repacholi                               1 Crescent Rd.,7 +61 (08) 9257-1001                           Kalamunda. @                                              West Australia 6076. Raw, Cooked or Well-done, it's all half baked.   ------------------------------   Date: 3 Jan 2001 18:10:06 GMT-3 From: lewis@mazda.nospam.mitre.org (Keith A. Lewis) / Subject: Re: when is SYS$NODE normally defined?B( Message-ID: <92vptu$qik$1@top.mitre.org>  y helbig@astro.rug.nl (Phillip Helbig) writes in article <91ggoe$hqq$1@info.service.rug.nl> dated 16 Dec 2000 19:45:18 GMT:tI >I notice that, with machines with no DECnet installed, I have to define  I >SYS$NODE by hand.  Is this normal?  Is it normally defined as something   >to do with DECnet?a  K It's abnormal that you need to.  Applications which do not depend on DECnetRL should be written to use the officially supported F$GETSYI("SCSNODE") rather6 than F$TRNLNM("SYS$NODE").  Beware of trailing spaces.  2 --Keith Lewis              klewis@nospam.mitre.org PGP key available.         c> The above may not (yet) represent the opinions of my employer.   ------------------------------   Date: 3 Jan 2001 16:47:07 GMT 2 From: hoffman@xdelta.zko.dec.nospam (Hoff Hoffman)2 Subject: Re: XSTAT OPCOM (was Re: should I worry?)6 Message-ID: <92vl2b$doh$1@mailint03.im.hou.compaq.com>  c In article <978507287.721418@news.puk.ac.za>, "Phillip du Plooy" <itbpjdp@puknet.puk.ac.za> writes:-M :I get this opcom messages a few times a day on my ES40 running OpenVMS 7.2-1." :What is it and what should I do ? ..  I   This appears to be some sort of a name service (BIND) message, probablyVH   from Multinet.  Check the Multinet manuals (or whatever IP stack is inJ   use on this OpenVMS box) and see if you can somehow disable the message +   generation, if the messages bother you...    ..  9 :%%%%%%%%%%%  OPCOM   3-JAN-2001 07:46:40.03  %%%%%%%%%%%o! :Message from user SYSTEM on AXP3  :named: XSTATS ....   H   Please remember to pick a subject relevent to the question rather thanG   a generic title, in order to best attract the attention of the folks .H   that might know the answer to the question...  This technique will getH   your question better exposure, and will thus (hopefully) make it more G   likely you will receive a more expeditious answer.  (Generic subjectsNE   tend to get ignored, and can quite easily be assumed to be spam...)a  N  --------------------------- pure personal opinion ---------------------------L    Hoff (Stephen) Hoffman   OpenVMS Engineering   hoffman#xdelta.zko.dec.com   ------------------------------   End of INFO-VAX 2001.006 ************************