/ INFO-VAX	Fri, 05 Jan 2001	Volume 2001 : Issue 9       Contents:0 20GB Seagate SCSI disk with VMS 6.2/AXP (solved) ABS for Enterprise Backup O APACHE (CSWS) + MOD_PERL = No private process logicals definable in LOGIN.COM ? P Re: APACHE (CSWS) + MOD_PERL = No private process logicals definable in LOGIN.CO< Re: Applications using files by file ID instead of directory  Re: AQUARIUM OWNERS READ THIS!!!  Re: AQUARIUM OWNERS READ THIS!!!  Re: AQUARIUM OWNERS READ THIS!!!8 Re: Auto-booting & monitor for DEC 3000-300L w/ PMAGB-BA+ Boot problems (kernel stack not valid halt) / Re: Boot problems (kernel stack not valid halt) / Re: Boot problems (kernel stack not valid halt) / Re: Boot problems (kernel stack not valid halt) ! Re: Can DCL talk to TCP/IP ports? ! Re: Can DCL talk to TCP/IP ports? ! Re: Can DCL talk to TCP/IP ports? ! Re: Can DCL talk to TCP/IP ports? ! Re: Can DCL talk to TCP/IP ports? = Can't get ghostscript 6.0 to create postscript file from pdf. A Re: Can't get ghostscript 6.0 to create postscript file from pdf. A Re: Can't get ghostscript 6.0 to create postscript file from pdf. A Re: Can't get ghostscript 6.0 to create postscript file from pdf. A Re: Can't get ghostscript 6.0 to create postscript file from pdf.  CDROM cannot be mounted  CSWS Newbie Questions  RE: CSWS Newbie Questions B DCL Temp Files Was: DCL: Retrieving file version from OPEN command. DCL: Retrieving file version from OPEN command2 Re: DCL: Retrieving file version from OPEN command2 Re: DCL: Retrieving file version from OPEN command2 Re: DCL: Retrieving file version from OPEN command2 Re: DCL: Retrieving file version from OPEN command" Re: DEC-AXPVMS-VMS712_SYS-V0200--4" Re: DEC-AXPVMS-VMS712_SYS-V0200--4" Re: DEC-AXPVMS-VMS712_SYS-V0200--4" Re: DEC-AXPVMS-VMS712_SYS-V0200--4# Re: Ebay dead as a post - yet again # Re: Ebay dead as a post - yet again # Re: Ebay dead as a post - yet again # Re: Ebay dead as a post - yet again # Re: Ebay dead as a post - yet again # Re: Ebay dead as a post - yet again ( Re: File system performance and security Re: Giving up on VMS Re: Giving up on VMS Re: Happy New Years  How can I setup ucx$ntpd? - RE: Retrieving file version from OPEN command 
 RMS for unix? & Re: Sending messages to an application& Re: Sending messages to an application Re: Source dor TSM021? Re: Source dor TSM021? Re: Source dor TSM021? Re: Source dor TSM021? Re: Source dor TSM021? Re: Source dor TSM021?$ Re: The Listserver here has gone mad( Re: using a multihead XP1000 workstation( Re: using a multihead XP1000 workstation VAX to NT migration? Re: VAX to NT migration?& Re: voor de belgische Alpha gebruikers& Re: voor de belgische Alpha gebruikers  F ----------------------------------------------------------------------  % Date: Mon, 08 Jan 2001 02:46:21 +0000 ) From: Christof Brass <brass@infopuls.com> 9 Subject: 20GB Seagate SCSI disk with VMS 6.2/AXP (solved) , Message-ID: <3A5929FD.33C2026E@infopuls.com>  > Thanks for the help I got in solving my problem. The solution 6 was to install a new version of DKDRIVER which I could suprisingly A download from the DEQ VMS web site without registering or having   to pay. ? After downloading it I installed the kit and it worked without  < any problems - ehm - maybe there is one problem which I will post  = seperately. But the new harddisk and all other harddisks are   working now.? With the old DRDIRVER the disk wasn't recognised correctly and  - always showed up as offline in SHOW DEVICE D.    ------------------------------  # Date: Thu, 04 Jan 2001 19:34:59 GMT  From: waybright@my-deja.com " Subject: ABS for Enterprise Backup) Message-ID: <932j92$r06$1@nnrp1.deja.com>   @ Our UNIX group (t64 v5.01) continues to struggle with the latest> versions of Legato Networker.  My previous experience at otherA heterogeneous data centers using Legato for enterprise backup was D negative as well.  The system administrators spend considerable timeE getting it to work and keeping it working.  At a previous employer we F used Legato for VMS by Wumpusware.  After much work, it was successfulF at independent file and directory restores, but could not handle largeF files over 1GB or VMS image backups or RDB backups.  For image and RDB( backups it was easier for us to use SLS.  C Currently, because of the problems we are having with Legato on the G UNIX side (we use SLS for the VMS) we are considering using ABS for the D enterprise.  What are your experiences, advice, etc. concerning ABS?  @ I understand for ABS the server has to be VMS.  I am consideringD attaching a small alphaserver running VMS 7.3 to our COMPAQ SAN, andG using ABS, backup the entire VMS and UNIX storage areas.  We use Oracle G and RDB data bases.  We use TL895 tape libraries currently connected to F the HOST SCSI, but with VMS 7.3 we would connect the TL895 directly to the fiber via a data modulator.   F How does ABS deal with VMS image backups, RDB backups, Oracle Backups?  2 Are there any issues with ABS and the UNIX client?  = Does ABS only use the Compaq IP stack?  Will it use Multinet?    I appreciate your feedback!      Sent via Deja.com  http://www.deja.com/   ------------------------------  # Date: Thu, 04 Jan 2001 23:56:55 GMT * From: "Andy Stoffel" <acs@fcgnetworks.net>X Subject: APACHE (CSWS) + MOD_PERL = No private process logicals definable in LOGIN.COM ?9 Message-ID: <a5856.200416$DG3.4584400@news2.giganews.com>   5 Just wondering if anyone has run into this "problem."    [background]8 I have 2 systems, virtually identical Alphaserver 1200's5 with the same version of VMS (7.2-1), memory (512MB), 4 and (more or less) the same applications being used   on them. Same versions of TCPIP.  $ There are 2 noticeable differences.   1     1 - System A has 1 CPU & SYSTEM B h as 2 CPUs 6     2 - The people using SYSTEM B want to use MOD_PERL=         with Apache/CSWS and the people using SYSTEM A don't.   > I've set up the same "web application" (Using Apache) on both H systems. This web application is basically a web interface to (part of) C a  "legacy" terminal based application suite ( POISE for those that @ want to know/care) . A bunch of html, Javascript, BASIC and DCL A 'components'. Traditionally, this software has been configured so > that a large number of process-private logicals are created in a user's LOGIN.COM.     
 [/background]    The problem:  ;     If the site that wants to use MOD_PERL with Apache/CSWS =   (and they do have the correct versions) enables mod_perl in ,   APACHE$COMMON:[CONF]HTTPD.CONF suddenly my>     web application stops working. If I disable mod_perl (note=    from the component types above that my application doesn't B   use Perl so it doesn't affect me but really annoys the users of    this machine).  = What appears to have happened is that, with mod_perl enabled, 5 the APACHE$WWW processes no longer seem to have their : process-private logicals as created in Apache's LOGIN.COM.C (Ouch!) and this "legacy" application stops working. But any other  : logicals (job or system) or symbols ARE defined correctly.% (I'm able to prove that by modifying    ' APACHE$COMMON:[CGI-BIN]TEST-CGI-VMS.COM : to show me the logicals & symbols the process has defined.: I've also logged into the Apache$WWW account interactively= and all logicals/symbols are correctly defined interactively.   = I can define logicals in other logical name tables for Apache 6 with or without MOD_PERL enabled so I'm assuming it is2 related strictly to some process related resource.  H I was hoping/thinking it would be a system resource problem but if it is% it's not something I would recognize.   G I thought maybe that there just wasn't enough room for all the process  
 logicals but:   :     LNMPHASHTBL on this system is set to 512 (the default):    and, when mod_perl is disabled, an APACHE$WWW_# process    has 244 process logicals.    ;   But I can't find anywhere in any VMS documentation search 6   that says LNMPHASHTBL is pooled so I'm assuming thatA   each APACHE process can have up to 512 logicals on this system.   ; Any suggestions of where else to look would be appreciated.    ------------------------------  # Date: Fri, 05 Jan 2001 00:24:38 GMT * From: "Andy Stoffel" <acs@fcgnetworks.net>Y Subject: Re: APACHE (CSWS) + MOD_PERL = No private process logicals definable in LOGIN.CO 9 Message-ID: <av856.166748$IP1.5903188@news1.giganews.com>   B [I don't normally follow up my own questions but I need to clarify something....]  5 "Andy Stoffel" <acs@fcgnetworks.net> wrote in message 3 news:a5856.200416$DG3.4584400@news2.giganews.com...    When I said:   > my application  G I did not mean to imply that "I" wrote it . Other people get the credit ? for that, I just get to install it and give feedback on it :-).    -Andy-   ------------------------------   Date: 4 Jan 2001 19:15:48 -0700 1 From: nothome@spammers.are.scum (Malcolm Dunnett) E Subject: Re: Applications using files by file ID instead of directory , Message-ID: <DB1KPzJddfhM@malvm1.mala.bc.ca>  1 In article <87d7e492mo.fsf@k9.prep.synonet.com>,  2     Paul Repacholi <prep@prep.synonet.com> writes: > C > Perhaps you should consider RMS relative or indexed files to hold C > the data; that will give you the indexing, and slash the file and E > open count. Working with huge numbers of files is not fun, or fast.  > C     Depends on the definition of "small". IIRC Indexed and Relative B files both have a maximum record size of 32767 ( or is it 65535? )A bytes. If you needed more than that you'd have to go to some sort A of multi-record format. If the records frequently get deleted and @ or change size your indexed file could become inefficient fairlyC quickly through bucket splits. Relative files have the disadvantage @ of having to pre-allocate space to hold up to the highest recordC number used ( though not until it's actually used ) and they don't  = support variable length records, which could lead to a lot of ? wasted space. OTOH if you use a separate file for each item you A need to allocate at least 1 disk cluster + 1 block ( for the file D header ) for each item so it may not be very space efficient either.? With newer VMS versions you can use a clustersize of 1 on large 8 disks so the space wasted this way might not be too bad.  =     The kind of application that comes to mind here is a news @ server. Back when I used to run ANU news as a server the biggestA pain was managing the directories ( deletes would take forever in = a directory with lots of files ). I often though some sort of @ scheme like the one mention here would have made the system much more efficient.    ------------------------------  # Date: Fri, 05 Jan 2001 02:08:01 GMT   From: jlsue <jlsuexxxz@home.com>) Subject: Re: AQUARIUM OWNERS READ THIS!!! 8 Message-ID: <praa5tkk2a9a2h0j226v3frq879dsa0pf3@4ax.com>  C On Thu, 4 Jan 2001 09:47:30 -0500, "Syltrem" <syltrem@videotron.ca>  wrote:   >Great! I can now cluster my aquariums so that they can share water and fishes. Easy maintenance! You only need to put food in one tank, fishes will be able to get to it using the new improved DECwater link!   A Well, that would be the incorrect Trademark for this product.  It 0 would be DigitalWater^H^H^H^H^H^H... CompaqWater@ Li^H^H^H^H^H^H^H^H^H^H^H Compaq OpenWater Link for OpenVMS Alpha    1 Not speaking for anyone, certainly not DEC/Compaq - (get rid of the xxxx in my address to e-mail)    ------------------------------  # Date: Fri, 05 Jan 2001 03:31:43 GMT 4 From: "Terry C. Shannon" <terryshannon@mediaone.net>) Subject: Re: AQUARIUM OWNERS READ THIS!!! < Message-ID: <zeb56.40615$1t.2151471@typhoon.ne.mediaone.net>   > I > >Great! I can now cluster my aquariums so that they can share water and L fishes. Easy maintenance! You only need to put food in one tank, fishes will: be able to get to it using the new improved DECwater link! > C > Well, that would be the incorrect Trademark for this product.  It I > would be DigitalWater...CompaqWater...Compaq OpenWater Link for OpenVMS  Alpha   D Nope. It's Compaq CichlidCluster V1.0... the firm's first foray into3 water-cooled technology since the Aquarius Project.    ------------------------------  % Date: Fri, 05 Jan 2001 00:26:20 -0500 , From: Howard S Shubs <hshubs@mindspring.com>) Subject: Re: AQUARIUM OWNERS READ THIS!!! > Message-ID: <hshubs-ABCBDF.00262005012001@news.mindspring.com>  L In article <praa5tkk2a9a2h0j226v3frq879dsa0pf3@4ax.com>, jlsuexxxz@home.com  wrote:  D >On Thu, 4 Jan 2001 09:47:30 -0500, "Syltrem" <syltrem@videotron.ca> >wrote:  > I >>Great! I can now cluster my aquariums so that they can share water and  J >>fishes. Easy maintenance! You only need to put food in one tank, fishes A >>will be able to get to it using the new improved DECwater link!  > B >Well, that would be the incorrect Trademark for this product.  It1 >would be DigitalWater^H^H^H^H^H^H... CompaqWater A >Li^H^H^H^H^H^H^H^H^H^H^H Compaq OpenWater Link for OpenVMS Alpha    Does that run with SMP?  --   Howard S ShubsD "Run in circles, scream and shout!"  "I hope you have good backups!"   ------------------------------  $ Date: Thu, 4 Jan 2001 23:29:32 +0100: From: "Michael Holmes" <NOSPAM.raider@NOSPAM.mindless.com>A Subject: Re: Auto-booting & monitor for DEC 3000-300L w/ PMAGB-BA + Message-ID: <932tj10q6u@enews2.newsguy.com>    Thanks Laurie!  L Setting Jumper 5 did the trick. I've got my monitor working correctly now at 66Hz!   L Also, with the keybroad/mouse block pluged in it correctly auto-boots as setH in the console NVRAM.  It must have been the no keyboard power test thatA switch it to "headless mode" that prevented it from auto_booting. F Alias the Dec 3000-300L does not have a SERVER setting on the console.   Thanks everyone for the inputs!    Michael   @ "Laurie L. Vandenberg" <lvandenberg@uswest.net> wrote in message- news:QiV46.5320$xZ3.776238@news.uswest.net... 
 > Hi Michael.  > L > I think you want to use Auto_Action RESTART.  This will cause an automatic > reboot in all cases, whereI > Auto_Action BOOT will cause an automatic reboot in all cases except for  > halt/restart type bugchecks. > C > The PMAGB-BA is described as 72/66 HZ.  This should help you out.  >  > ? >          PMAGB-Bx (HX) GRAPHICS MODULE 54-21143-01, 02 AND 03  > * >                         ________________+ >                        | o            o | + >                        |          J1 J3 | C >                        |           : :  | <-- Jumper Holding Pins + >                        |                | H >   Oscillator Jumper -->| :            : | <-- EEPROM Jumper (Ship=Out)+ >   (see Table A)        | J5          J2 | + >                        |                | + >                        |     SMART      | + >                        |     FRAME      | + >                        |     BUFFER     | , >                       ----ooo-------------. >                     PMAGB-Bx Module Bulkhead > L >         For a description of the PMAGB-Bx OSCILLATOR JUMPER SETTINGS referL >         to Table A. For related monitor type information refer to Table B. > G >         For more detailed information refer to the Smart Frame Buffer 5 >         TURBOchannel user manual (EK-SFBOM-TC-001).  >  > > >                 Table A: PMAGB-Bx OSCILLATOR JUMPER SETTINGS> >                 --------------------------------------------G >  Part Number    Refresh  Resolution     J5 Position       Module Name G >  -----------    -------  ----------     -----------       -----------  > F >  54-21143-01 -  72Hz    1280 x 1024  -  Jumper J5  OFF  \ PMAGB-BA - Factory  > In. L >              -  66Hz    1280 x 1024  -  Jumper J5  ON   / PMAGB-BB - Field > Inst.  > E >  54-21143-02 -  72Hz    1280 x 1024  -  Jumper J5  OUT \ PMAGB-BC -  Factory  > In. K >              -  60Hz    1024 x 864   -  Jumper J5  IN  / PMAGB-BD - Field  > Inst.  > L >  54-21143-03 -  72Hz    1280 x 1024  -  Jumper J5 OUT \ PMAGB-BE - Factory > Inst. J >              -  72Hz    1024 x 768   -  Jumper J5 IN  / PMAGB-BF - Field > Inst.  >  > 3 >                            Table B: MONITOR TABLE 3 >                            ---------------------- 9 >                    MONITOR       Refresh     Resolution 9 >                    -------       -------     ---------- 8 >                    VR262-A3  -   60Hz       1024 x 8648 >                    VR299-D3  -   60Hz       1024 x 8648 >                    VR297-D3  -   60Hz       1024 x 8649 >                    VR319-CA  -   66Hz       1280 x 1024=9 >                    VR319-DA  -   72Hz       1280 x 1024 9 >                    VR319-HA  -   72Hz       1280 x 1024n9 >                    VR320-CA  -   66Hz       1280 x 1024n9 >                    VR320-DA  -   72Hz       1280 x 1024Q9 >                    VR320-GA  -   66Hz       1280 x 1024!9 >                    VRT16-DA  -   66Hz       1280 x 1024 G >                    VRT16-HA  -   66/72Hz    1280 x 1024 (Set to 72Hz)t9 >                    VRT19-D3  -   66Hz       1280 x 1024aG >                    VRT19-HA  -   66/72Hz    1280 x 1024 (Set to 72Hz) G >                    VRM17-HA  -   72Hz       1280 x 1024 or 1024 x 768a8 >                    VRC16-CA  -   72Hz       1024 x 768 > 
 > Regards, >  > Laurie Vandenberg  >  >s >rG > "Michael Holmes" <NOSPAM.raider@NOSPAM.mindless.com> wrote in message.* > news:<9305vh02hnk@enews4.newsguy.com>...G > > I recently purchased a DEC 3000-300L on Ebay for a hobbist machine. I > > I'm still new to VMS hardware and system administration (previously Is only, > > had user access on a university system). > >aI > > I do not have a DEC monitor, so I'm using a serial cable connected toe thel; > > comm port & my PC.  So far its working fine "headless".R > >vJ > > What I would like is for the system to automatically boot when powered up.mJ > > I set the "Auto_Action" to BOOT on the console, but when I flip on the > powerrL > > switch it just comes up to the console prompt >>> and sits there until I > > type in boot and enter.- > >eI > > What I'm I missing... I don't have any documention so I've search theE > compagL > > site and found a Dec 3000-600/700/800 model setup documentionation (PDF) > bute
 > > thats it.b > >aH > > Second, I would like to get a monitor to use with DECWindows.  I was toldJ > > that the card was 1280 x 1024 @ 66Hz, but I'm not sure that's correct. IfL > > read somewhere that it might be 1280 x 1024 @72Hz.  Does anyone know theK > > spec's for a Turbo Channel PMAGB-BA (from the console config) card?  IsoJ > > there a way to set the resolution to a different setting (ie 66Hz - so myH > > monitor will display).   Does the bulit-in graphic card display at a lowere1 > > refresh rate (has one below the serial ports.r > >2D > > Do you know what monitors are compatable (stock) with this card. > >  > >t& > > Thanks for all you help in advance > >a > > Mike > >a > >  > >o >  >r   ------------------------------   Date: 4 Jan 2001 20:41:09 +0100e* From: eplan@kapsch.net (Peter LANGSTOEGER)4 Subject: Boot problems (kernel stack not valid halt)* Message-ID: <3a54d1d5$1@news.kapsch.co.at>  # I just did something not so clever.<  E I wanted to save time and installed a handful of patches (all of themoH running on my test systems for some weeks now) and rebooted a productionF system. Now it won't boot (and I'm late and have not that much time to4 get it working again - and don't suggest backups ;-)   >>b -fl 0,1  (boot dka0.0.0.6.0 -flags 0,1)- block 0 of dka0.0.0.6.0 is a valid boot blocka$ reading 921 blocks from dka0.0.0.6.0 bootstrap code read in3 base = 1f2000, image_start = 0, image_bytes = 73200e initializing HWRPB at 2000! initializing page table at 1e4000  initializing machine state# setting affinity to the primary CPUa jumping to bootstrap codef   halted CPU 0  
 halt code = 2- kernel stack not valid halta PC = ffffffff800941c0: boot failure     The patches have been  	VMS721_FIBRE_SCSI-V0200 	VMS721_PTHREAD-V02009 	VMS721_RMS-V0100e 	VMS721_SYS-V0800X  # Does this ring a bell for someone ?eJ Do you think one of this patches is the reason for the problem or could itH be a new hardware problem (it is a really old AlphaStation 200 4/166)...   TIAe   -- l< Peter "EPLAN" LANGSTOEGER           Tel.    +43 1 81111-2651; Network and OpenVMS system manager  Fax.    +43 1 81111-888 < <<< KAPSCH AG  Wagenseilgasse 1     E-mail  eplan@kapsch.netH A-1121 VIENNA  AUSTRIA              "I'm not a pessimist, I'm a realist"   ------------------------------  " Date: Thu, 4 Jan 2001 20:11:44 GMT( From: Terry Kennedy <terry@gate.tmk.com>8 Subject: Re: Boot problems (kernel stack not valid halt)' Message-ID: <G6nMrK.Ay9@spcuna.spc.edu>   , Peter LANGSTOEGER <eplan@kapsch.net> writes:G > I wanted to save time and installed a handful of patches (all of themBJ > running on my test systems for some weeks now) and rebooted a productionH > system. Now it won't boot (and I'm late and have not that much time to6 > get it working again - and don't suggest backups ;-)  K   Most likely, something moved APB and forgot to update the bootblock. BoottG from the distribution CD-ROM and do a "mcr writeboot" in DCL. My secondo4 choice would be really, really out of date firmware.  4         Terry Kennedy             http://www.tmk.com5         terry@tmk.com             Jersey City, NJ USA    ------------------------------   Date: 4 Jan 2001 23:36:49 +0100p* From: eplan@kapsch.net (Peter LANGSTOEGER)8 Subject: Re: Boot problems (kernel stack not valid halt)* Message-ID: <3a54fb01$1@news.kapsch.co.at>  R In article <G6nMrK.Ay9@spcuna.spc.edu>, Terry Kennedy <terry@gate.tmk.com> writes:- >Peter LANGSTOEGER <eplan@kapsch.net> writes: H >> I wanted to save time and installed a handful of patches (all of themK >> running on my test systems for some weeks now) and rebooted a production I >> system. Now it won't boot (and I'm late and have not that much time to)7 >> get it working again - and don't suggest backups ;-)o >bL >  Most likely, something moved APB and forgot to update the bootblock. BootH >from the distribution CD-ROM and do a "mcr writeboot" in DCL. My second5 >choice would be really, really out of date firmware.h  G And you won a cigar. It was the VMS721_SYS-V0800 ECO and the bootblock."  H Firmware couldn't be the problem, because I have the latest and greatest5 everywhere (which _is_ quite old for old hardware ;-)m  G Folks, this is again an example of how one can solve problems nowadays.AD Forget the important and urgent work (where you immediately have notH enough ideas to get a good feeling during the bug fix), post the problemF description to the usenet, continue with important but not urgent workG and a couple of minutes (maybe hours if it is too early for the readerseF overseas) later check the results/ideas and voila. Problem solved (and not much time lost).  C So, now I want to understand why the ECO on this machine didn't fix J the bootblock, while on all others it obviously did (they all work[ed])...   -- s< Peter "EPLAN" LANGSTOEGER           Tel.    +43 1 81111-2651; Network and OpenVMS system manager  Fax.    +43 1 81111-888w< <<< KAPSCH AG  Wagenseilgasse 1     E-mail  eplan@kapsch.netH A-1121 VIENNA  AUSTRIA              "I'm not a pessimist, I'm a realist"   ------------------------------  % Date: Thu, 04 Jan 2001 22:49:52 -0000o- From: wspencer@ap.nospam.org (Warren Spencer)o8 Subject: Re: Boot problems (kernel stack not valid halt)/ Message-ID: <t59vggakgtra97@news.supernews.com>e  H I think I saw this once when a ram chip in an Alpha went flakey.  Seems C unlikely, given what you're doing.  But hey, coincidences happen...d   ws   -- c3 << What if there were no hypothetical questions? >>m   Warren Spencer Senior Software Engineer The Associated Press  ? ** My employer does not necessarily agree with my statements **  ____________  9 eplan@kapsch.net (Peter LANGSTOEGER) wrote in <3a54d1d5$1s @news.kapsch.co.at>:  $ >I just did something not so clever. >jF >I wanted to save time and installed a handful of patches (all of themI >running on my test systems for some weeks now) and rebooted a productionsG >system. Now it won't boot (and I'm late and have not that much time tou5 >get it working again - and don't suggest backups ;-)  >  >>>b -fl 0,1 >(boot dka0.0.0.6.0 -flags 0,1) . >block 0 of dka0.0.0.6.0 is a valid boot block% >reading 921 blocks from dka0.0.0.6.0i >bootstrap code read in 4 >base = 1f2000, image_start = 0, image_bytes = 73200 >initializing HWRPB at 20000" >initializing page table at 1e4000 >initializing machine state:$ >setting affinity to the primary CPU >jumping to bootstrap code > 
 >halted CPU 0e >g >halt code = 2 >kernel stack not valid halt >PC = ffffffff800941c0
 >boot failurey >n >e >The patches have been >     VMS721_FIBRE_SCSI-V0200t >     VMS721_PTHREAD-V0200 >     VMS721_RMS-V0100 >     VMS721_SYS-V0800 >e$ >Does this ring a bell for someone ?K >Do you think one of this patches is the reason for the problem or could iteI >be a new hardware problem (it is a really old AlphaStation 200 4/166)...t >) >TIA >d   ------------------------------  $ Date: Thu, 4 Jan 2001 16:02:43 -0500. From: "M. T. Hollinger" <MyTH@ucx.lkg.dec.com>* Subject: Re: Can DCL talk to TCP/IP ports?6 Message-ID: <932olt$1ve$1@mailint03.im.hou.compaq.com>  ? "Nicholas Barnes" <nicholas-za.barnes@ubs.com> wrote in messagec! news:3A54836E.2C4D6468@ubs.com...eG > For those interested, I'm writing some code which needs to be able to J > contact a mail gateway (SMTP port) and 'forge' some mail to make it lookD > like it's come from my Outlook address rather than from a VMS box.  I This is becoming a more frequent request.  Help is on the way, if you cand wait for the next version.  K In our upcoming TCP/IP Services V5.1 release, the TCPIP$SMTP_SFF (Send FromrH File) facility will be documented for customer use.  This image actuallyL shipped with V5.0 but was unsupported.  It allows users to format a completeD SMTP message, including all the headers, in a file and then send the message.  L Another new feature for V5.1 will be that you can define the TCPIP$SMTP_FROMG logical name, specifying an alternate address for your "From:" field inuH outbound mail.  This feature is specifically intended for users who wantH their mail to appear to be from their Microsoft Outlook/Exchange mailbox! address.  We hope you'll like it.r                   - Mr   ------------------------------  % Date: Thu, 04 Jan 2001 17:06:11 -0700r% From: Dean Woodward <deanw@rdrop.com> * Subject: Re: Can DCL talk to TCP/IP ports?( Message-ID: <3A550FF3.520B745@rdrop.com>   "M. T. Hollinger" wrote:  K > This is becoming a more frequent request.  Help is on the way, if you cane > wait for the next version.   What's the expected release?  M > In our upcoming TCP/IP Services V5.1 release, the TCPIP$SMTP_SFF (Send FromlJ > File) facility will be documented for customer use.  This image actuallyN > shipped with V5.0 but was unsupported.  It allows users to format a completeF > SMTP message, including all the headers, in a file and then send the
 > message.  F Thank you thank you thankyouthankyou!  Now, please tell me the processG doesn't need OPER, SYSPRV, or CMKRNL to run it like the current (brokenlD security model) version.  (I don't care if I have to install it with privs and put ACLs on it...)  H Amongst other things, this should help get majordomo going on TCPIP 5.x, I hope.k  N > Another new feature for V5.1 will be that you can define the TCPIP$SMTP_FROMI > logical name, specifying an alternate address for your "From:" field inpJ > outbound mail.  This feature is specifically intended for users who wantJ > their mail to appear to be from their Microsoft Outlook/Exchange mailbox# > address.  We hope you'll like it.   F So DEFINE/JOB TCPIP$SMTP_FROM "deanw@rdrop.com <Dean Woodward>" shouldE work?  Can I point out that some mailers expect to see brokets around.C the friendly name field, but that VMSMAIL /PERSONAL_NAME won't takeyE them, and uses parentheses?  It's a nit, but in the MS-centric office @ environment I work in, Exchange won't recognize (Dean Woodward).   ------------------------------  # Date: Fri, 05 Jan 2001 01:59:38 GMTh+ From: John Santos <john.santos@verizon.net> * Subject: Re: Can DCL talk to TCP/IP ports?> Message-ID: <MPG.14bef4ec9f4d59219896af@news.bellatlantic.net>  C In article <3A54836E.2C4D6468@ubs.com>, nicholas-za.barnes@ubs.com   says...  >  > Hi,o > B > I would like to be able to use DCL (7.2-1, TCPIP 5.0A) to open aH > read/write connection to a TCP/IP port on a remote machine in much the9 > same way as I would open a DECNET task to task session.2 > J > Is this possible? I have had a look around and I can't find any mentions > of anything like this. >   6 C-Kermit can do this.  http://www.columbia.edu/kermit/  G > For those interested, I'm writing some code which needs to be able tomJ > contact a mail gateway (SMTP port) and 'forge' some mail to make it lookD > like it's come from my Outlook address rather than from a VMS box. >   E It is possible to script a connection to an IP port, input and outputaD messages from the connection.  I have specifically used this to talk@ to SMTP servers (MX on VMS, sendmail on Linux) as part of a mailC relaying project, so it should be able to do exactly what you want.i  J > Now, I can do this by hand in a Telnet session, and so I had the thoughtG > that I may be able to force Telnet to take input from somewhere else,lE > but it steadfastly refuses to use anything other than the keyboard. H > Anyway, using Telnet would be a last resort - I can see too many other, > problems for that to be easy to implement.  C Just write a Kermit script replicating what you did with Telnet.  I E think with current C-Kermit, you might need to turn off telnet optiontE negotiations (SET TELNET WAIT OFF), and then connect to the SMTP portrB on the host (SET HOST xxx 25) (25 is the SMTP port), and execute aF series of INPUT and OUTPUT commands (with error checking) to send yourB mail.  (Note: for sending large amounts of text stored in a file, H TRANSMIT seems to be much more efficient than reading and writing lines G of text in a loop in a Kermit script.  If your mail messages are short,t this won't matter.)T  	 > Cheers,l >  > Nick.t >    -- e John Santosa   ------------------------------  % Date: Thu, 04 Jan 2001 21:53:45 -0500e- From: JF Mezei <jfmezei.spamnot@videotron.ca> * Subject: Re: Can DCL talk to TCP/IP ports?, Message-ID: <3A55372A.704D310C@videotron.ca>   Nicholas Barnes wrote: >  > Hi,- > B > I would like to be able to use DCL (7.2-1, TCPIP 5.0A) to open aH > read/write connection to a TCP/IP port on a remote machine in much the9 > same way as I would open a DECNET task to task session.u  1 $TELNET/CREATE_SESSION/PROT=NONE host_name port s  $OPEN/READ/WRITE mylink TNAs:e $write mylink "a line of text"
 $close mylink= $TELNET/DELETE_SESSSION s   C the "s" creates a session number with a corresponding TNAs: device.    ------------------------------  $ Date: Thu, 4 Jan 2001 23:58:20 -05002 From: "John Gemignani, Jr." <john@ossc.DELETE.net>* Subject: Re: Can DCL talk to TCP/IP ports?+ Message-ID: <3a555473$1@newsfeed.vitts.com>d  L Using the TELNET /CREATE_SESSION should be able to do what you want. Be sureI that you select the /PROTOCOL=NONE and that you keep an assignment to therJ device because it should disconnect when you deassign from it.  It's idealF because typical writes to a terminal will send lines to SMTP, which it likes.   -John     ? "Hoff Hoffman" <hoffman@xdelta.zko.dec.nospam> wrote in message 0 news:93285i$rft$4@mailint03.im.hou.compaq.com... > 9 > In article <3A54836E.2C4D6468@ubs.com>, Nicholas Barneso$ <nicholas-za.barnes@ubs.com> writes: >-C > :I would like to be able to use DCL (7.2-1, TCPIP 5.0A) to open azI > :read/write connection to a TCP/IP port on a remote machine in much the : > :same way as I would open a DECNET task to task session. > :eK > :Is this possible? I have had a look around and I can't find any mentionsP > :of anything like this > H >   I am aware of no direct way to do this, as TCP/IP has not been fullyJ >   integrated into DCL -- the closest would probably involve the creationL >   of a TELNET device (TELNET CREATE_SESSION) that targets the remote port.J >   (I'd like to see task-to-task support added to DCL for IP (OPEN/TCP orJ >   some such), but it is not there yet -- though you can get pretty closeA >   with the TELNET stuff, with the inetd/sys$net stuff, and with  rsh/rexec.)  >-H > :For those interested, I'm writing some code which needs to be able toK > :contact a mail gateway (SMTP port) and 'forge' some mail to make it look E > :like it's come from my Outlook address rather than from a VMS box.  > L >   Load the current TCP/IP Services field test or the latest ECO for V5.0A.5 >   (It has this return address capability built-in.)- >7, >  --------------------------- pure personal# opinion --------------------------- 1 >    Hoff (Stephen) Hoffman   OpenVMS Engineeringx hoffman#xdelta.zko.dec.com >3   ------------------------------   Date: 4 JAN 2001 20:02:03 GMT-$ From: mrl@psfc.mit.edu (Mark London)F Subject: Can't get ghostscript 6.0 to create postscript file from pdf.* Message-ID: <4JAN01.20020315@psfc.mit.edu>  M I'm trying to get ghostscript 6.0 to create a postscript file from pdf.  I do  the following:  M $  gs "-dNODISPLAY"  "-sOutputFile=abc.xyz" example.pdf "-dBATCH" "-dNOPAUSE"C$ Aladdin Ghostscript 6.0 (2000-02-03)M Copyright (C) 2000 Aladdin Enterprises, Menlo Park, CA.  All rights reserved.iF This software comes with NO WARRANTY: see the file PUBLIC for details. Processing pages 1 through 1.p Page 1  7 No abc.xyz is created.  What am I doing wrong?  Thanks.t   Mark Londonh MRL@PSFC.MIT.EDU   ------------------------------  $ Date: Thu, 4 Jan 2001 18:09:49 -0500* From: Marc Tardif <intmktg@Gloria.CAM.ORG>J Subject: Re: Can't get ghostscript 6.0 to create postscript file from pdf.E Message-ID: <Pine.LNX.4.10.10101041805510.1453-100000@Gloria.CAM.ORG>f  ! On 4 Jan 2001, Mark London wrote:h  O > I'm trying to get ghostscript 6.0 to create a postscript file from pdf.  I doi > the following: > O > $  gs "-dNODISPLAY"  "-sOutputFile=abc.xyz" example.pdf "-dBATCH" "-dNOPAUSE"y [ snip ]  G GNU ghostscript comes with a utility called pdf2ps, which is actually asI shell script that I have pasted below. If you actually decide to use thiseG script, beware of long lines which might have been split with a newline H by either of our mail/news clients. Hope it works on the Alladin version too.  	 #!/bin/sh0 # $Id: pdf2ps $u # Convert PDF to PostScript.  
 OPTIONS=""
 while true do         case "$1" in$         -*) OPTIONS="$OPTIONS $1" ;;         *)  break ;;         esac
         shift  done   if [ $# -ne 2 ]; then h         echo "Usage: `basename $0` [-dPSBinaryOK] [-dPSLevel1] [-dPSNoProcSet] input.pdf output.ps" 1>&2         exit 1 fi  L # Doing an initial 'save' helps keep fonts from being flushed between pages.X exec gs -q -dNOPAUSE -dBATCH -sDEVICE=pswrite -sOutputFile=$2 $OPTIONS -c save pop -f $1   ------------------------------  $ Date: Thu, 4 Jan 2001 18:29:24 -0500! From: "Alex" <alexcher@erols.com> J Subject: Re: Can't get ghostscript 6.0 to create postscript file from pdf.+ Message-ID: <9330j4$q4a$1@bob.news.rcn.net>v  6 You need to specify the output device -sDEVICE=pswrite  T Mark London <mrl@psfc.mit.edu> wrote in message news:4JAN01.20020315@psfc.mit.edu...O > I'm trying to get ghostscript 6.0 to create a postscript file from pdf.  I doe > the following: >mO > $  gs "-dNODISPLAY"  "-sOutputFile=abc.xyz" example.pdf "-dBATCH" "-dNOPAUSE"a& > Aladdin Ghostscript 6.0 (2000-02-03)O > Copyright (C) 2000 Aladdin Enterprises, Menlo Park, CA.  All rights reserved.bH > This software comes with NO WARRANTY: see the file PUBLIC for details. > Processing pages 1 through 1.m > Page 1 >39 > No abc.xyz is created.  What am I doing wrong?  Thanks.t >4
 > Mark Londoni > MRL@PSFC.MIT.EDU   ------------------------------  % Date: Fri, 05 Jan 2001 01:32:05 +0100U/ From: Helge Blischke <H.Blischke@srz-berlin.de>aJ Subject: Re: Can't get ghostscript 6.0 to create postscript file from pdf.) Message-ID: <3A551605.72DC@srz-berlin.de>V   Mark London wrote: > O > I'm trying to get ghostscript 6.0 to create a postscript file from pdf.  I doh > the following: > O > $  gs "-dNODISPLAY"  "-sOutputFile=abc.xyz" example.pdf "-dBATCH" "-dNOPAUSE"n& > Aladdin Ghostscript 6.0 (2000-02-03)O > Copyright (C) 2000 Aladdin Enterprises, Menlo Park, CA.  All rights reserved.mH > This software comes with NO WARRANTY: see the file PUBLIC for details. > Processing pages 1 through 1.N > Page 1 > 9 > No abc.xyz is created.  What am I doing wrong?  Thanks.-  0 Replace the "-dNODISPLAY" by "-sDEVICE=pswrite".   Helger   -- r H.Blischke@srz-berlin.de H.Blischke@srz-berlin.comb H.Blischke@acm.org   ------------------------------   Date: 5 JAN 2001 01:44:30 GMTA$ From: mrl@psfc.mit.edu (Mark London)J Subject: Re: Can't get ghostscript 6.0 to create postscript file from pdf.* Message-ID: <5JAN01.01443084@psfc.mit.edu>  M Hi -  That does create the file, but now I get the showpage prompt, no mattern3 what I try.  Is there a way to avoid that?  Thanks.n  D $ gs "-sDEVICE=pswrite" "-sOutputFile=abc.xyz" example.pdf "-dBATCH"$ Aladdin Ghostscript 6.0 (2000-02-03)M Copyright (C) 2000 Aladdin Enterprises, Menlo Park, CA.  All rights reserved.dF This software comes with NO WARRANTY: see the file PUBLIC for details. Processing pages 1 through 1.  Page 1( >>showpage, press <return> to continue<<    G In a previous article, Helge Blischke <H.Blischke@srz-berlin.de> wrote:p ->Mark London wrote: ->> Q ->> I'm trying to get ghostscript 6.0 to create a postscript file from pdf.  I dof ->> the following: ->> Q ->> $  gs "-dNODISPLAY"  "-sOutputFile=abc.xyz" example.pdf "-dBATCH" "-dNOPAUSE":( ->> Aladdin Ghostscript 6.0 (2000-02-03)Q ->> Copyright (C) 2000 Aladdin Enterprises, Menlo Park, CA.  All rights reserved.>J ->> This software comes with NO WARRANTY: see the file PUBLIC for details.! ->> Processing pages 1 through 1.'
 ->> Page 1 ->> ; ->> No abc.xyz is created.  What am I doing wrong?  Thanks.g -> a2 ->Replace the "-dNODISPLAY" by "-sDEVICE=pswrite". -> o ->Helgep -> t ->-- b ->H.Blischke@srz-berlin.de ->H.Blischke@srz-berlin.comr ->H.Blischke@acm.org   Mark Londono MRL@PSFC.MIT.EDU   ------------------------------  % Date: Mon, 08 Jan 2001 03:10:49 +00008) From: Christof Brass <brass@infopuls.com>d  Subject: CDROM cannot be mounted, Message-ID: <3A592FB9.72260E12@infopuls.com>  = Problem: "$ MOUNT/SYSTEM DKA200: DOCVMS062 CDR" doesn't work.m@ The correct CDROM is in the drive but after issuing the command > no disk activity can be observed. After about two minutes the  wellknown messages appear:  8 %MOUNT-I-OPRQST, Please mount volume DOCVMS062 in device _<node>$DKA200:r8 %MOUNT-I-NOOPR, no operator available to service request  " CTRL-T responds after a while with  : <node>::_FTA12: 03:52:23 VMOUNT    CPU=08:31:27.55 PF=7543 IO=1603642 MEM=140  ? To get the terminal back for real work I have to interrupt the mA mount process by e.g. Ctrl-C which needs several minutes to take   effect.   ? This command and the involved hardware worked for years except  ? that I added a fourth (external) SCSI disk and installed a new 4? version of DKDRIVER. Unfortunately I don't use the CDROM drive @@ very often so I don't remember when it was the last time before > I upgraded DKRIVER but I'm sure it was more than one year ago.  . The system is DEC 3000 300 LX running VMS 6.2.   Any suggestions?  ( As always, I really appreciate any help.   ------------------------------  % Date: Fri, 05 Jan 2001 15:55:58 +1030 : From: "Barratt, Chris (FMC)" <Chris.Barratt@fmc.sa.gov.au> Subject: CSWS Newbie QuestionsN Message-ID: <07103702F27FD411ACA30000F808545257C2E5@sagemshs001.fmc.sa.gov.au>  J Last week I installed Compaq Secure Web Server on my workstation ("macca") to have a bit of a look at it.H At this stage I have not installed the mod_perl or mod_jserv components. I am running TCP/IP Services.A  TL After reading the documentation over and over, and searching a couple of theL Apache sites on the web, I have some questions which perhaps someone who has0 been there done that might be able to help with.  sK 1.  The time being displayed in the log files is one hour different to thatd from a $SHOW TIME at DCL.uD      Where does CSWS get it's time from ?    (I am expecting this is, something to do with an incorrect NTP setup)  oL 2.  I have the option "Indexes" on the document root, but whenever I specifyL it in my browser (ie.   <http://macca/> http://macca/), it does not find theI index.html file in the directory. If the index.html file is not there, itlI does not do the usual listing of the directory contents. I have specifiedtE index.html (and all case variations) in the DirectoryIndex directive.aK Additionally, if I create a directory within my document root directory, ite! also exhibits the same behaviour.    H     Error log shows a "File does not exist" message for the directory in	 question.s  nJ     However, if I goto URL   http://macca/icons/ <http://macca/icons/>   IF do get the listing of directory contents, and URL http://macca/manual/D <http://macca/manual/>  will return the appropriate index.html file.  -L     When I access http://macca/index <http://macca/index>   it works, but ifH I access http://macca/index.html <http://macca/index.html>  it does not.( (which leads me into the next question).  cK 3.  Using http, if I specify the HTML or HTM extension for a file, I get anC& error, but it works if I leave it off.L      Using https, it works only if I supply the extension and not if I leave it off.r  a@ 4.  On startup of the server, I am getting an error "Cannot openG SSLSessionCache DBM file '/apache$root/logs/ssl_scache' for scanning ",e: followed by "System: no such file or directory (errno:2)".   G     This does not appear to be affecting operations, but seems strange.S  (K     It seems to create a file in the [logs] area called SSL_SCACHE.DIR withc? zero blocks. When the server is shutdown, this file is deleted.o  r   E Can anybody help with what I have setup wrong, or explain the quirks.   d Thanks,s
 Chris Barratt       ------------------------------  % Date: Fri, 05 Jan 2001 17:18:29 +1030a: From: "Barratt, Chris (FMC)" <Chris.Barratt@fmc.sa.gov.au>" Subject: RE: CSWS Newbie QuestionsN Message-ID: <07103702F27FD411ACA30000F808545257C2EA@sagemshs001.fmc.sa.gov.au>  H If only I'd waited 30 minutes before sending my questions.... I have now solved numbers 2 & 3.-  A The problem was that I left a "/" from the front of the directoryrJ specification for the document root - ie. "macca$sys/mydirectory"  instead of "/macca$sys/mydirectory".  J Number 4 could also be solved by this - I have restarted 3 times to try toL get the error and have not as yet seen it, so perhaps it was also related to the above problem.   > -----Original Message----- > From: Barratt, Chris (FMC) e$ > Sent: Friday, 5 January 2001 15:56 > To: Info-VAX@Mvb.Saic.Come  > Subject: CSWS Newbie Questions >  > 7 > Last week I installed Compaq Secure Web Server on my   > workstation ("macca")M  > to have a bit of a look at it.? > At this stage I have not installed the mod_perl or mod_jserv o
 > components.y > I am running TCP/IP Services.e >  o? > After reading the documentation over and over, and searching o > a couple of thel? > Apache sites on the web, I have some questions which perhaps   > someone who has 2 > been there done that might be able to help with. >  i< > 1.  The time being displayed in the log files is one hour  > different to thate > from a $SHOW TIME at DCL.oF >      Where does CSWS get it's time from ?    (I am expecting this is. > something to do with an incorrect NTP setup) >  e< > 2.  I have the option "Indexes" on the document root, but  > whenever I specify= > it in my browser (ie.   <http://macca/> http://macca/), it / > does not find thed> > index.html file in the directory. If the index.html file is  > not there, ite= > does not do the usual listing of the directory contents. I   > have specifiedG > index.html (and all case variations) in the DirectoryIndex directive.c@ > Additionally, if I create a directory within my document root  > directory, it # > also exhibits the same behaviour.e >  ,> >     Error log shows a "File does not exist" message for the  > directory in > question.L >   3 >     However, if I goto URL   http://macca/icons/ 9 <http://macca/icons/>   I F do get the listing of directory contents, and URL http://macca/manual/D <http://macca/manual/>  will return the appropriate index.html file.  PL     When I access http://macca/index <http://macca/index>   it works, but ifH I access http://macca/index.html <http://macca/index.html>  it does not.( (which leads me into the next question).  rK 3.  Using http, if I specify the HTML or HTM extension for a file, I get anc& error, but it works if I leave it off.L      Using https, it works only if I supply the extension and not if I leave it off.t   @ 4.  On startup of the server, I am getting an error "Cannot openG SSLSessionCache DBM file '/apache$root/logs/ssl_scache' for scanning ", : followed by "System: no such file or directory (errno:2)".  dG     This does not appear to be affecting operations, but seems strange.   kK     It seems to create a file in the [logs] area called SSL_SCACHE.DIR withp? zero blocks. When the server is shutdown, this file is deleted.o  I  nE Can anybody help with what I have setup wrong, or explain the quirks.I  y Thanks,t
 Chris Barrattt  a   ------------------------------    Date: 05 Jan 2001 08:41:53 +0800, From: Paul Repacholi <prep@prep.synonet.com>K Subject: DCL Temp Files Was: DCL: Retrieving file version from OPEN commandt3 Message-ID: <87pui24ypa.fsf_-_@k9.prep.synonet.com>c  4 hoffman@xdelta.zko.dec.nospam (Hoff Hoffman) writes:    " How about a wish list item for DCL  ,              $open/write/temporary/delete...  7 Open an file for tempory use, deleting it when the .com / exits. Like a open tmp and mark for delete QIO.u   -- e< Paul Repacholi                               1 Crescent Rd.,7 +61 (08) 9257-1001                           Kalamunda.t@                                              West Australia 6076. Raw, Cooked or Well-done, it's all half baked.   ------------------------------   Date: 4 Jan 2001 15:50:58 -0500.' From: kennsmit@gcfn.org (Kenneth Smith)e7 Subject: DCL: Retrieving file version from OPEN command ( Message-ID: <932nni$9fe$1@acme.gcfn.org>  % I am looking for a method to delete au( file that I am creating and closing with% OPEN and CLOSE.  I have the file namen' from the filespec name, but do not have-' the version number.  I would prefer notL) to use a wildcard for the version number.e  ' Feel free to e-mail with any questions.c Thanks,u ks kennsmit @ gcfn.orgo   Sample Code:  ) $       OPEN /WRITE OUTPUT_FILE ERROR.TXTS1 $       WRITE OUTPUT_FILE "An error has occurred"m $       CLOSE OUTPUT_FILE ) $       ... do something with OUTPUT_FILEE $	... delete OUTPUT_FILE   ------------------------------   Date: 4 Jan 2001 22:07:02 GMT-2 From: hoffman@xdelta.zko.dec.nospam (Hoff Hoffman); Subject: Re: DCL: Retrieving file version from OPEN commandT6 Message-ID: <932s66$2mt$1@mailint03.im.hou.compaq.com>  R In article <932nni$9fe$1@acme.gcfn.org>, kennsmit@gcfn.org (Kenneth Smith) writes: :l& :I am looking for a method to delete a) :file that I am creating and closing withp& :OPEN and CLOSE.  I have the file name( :from the filespec name, but do not have( :the version number.  I would prefer not* :to use a wildcard for the version number.  I   There is not an easy way to do this, as OPEN/WRITE does not return the eH   created file information that you require here, and as no DCL lexical F   function exists for this purpose.  (You could create a program that H   examines the I/O channel embedded in the logical name, retrieving the @   file specification that way.)  Some of the other alternatives:  C     o Pick an explicit version number when you OPEN the file?  (You C       could use f$search to find out if the target file version is         already in use.)  H     o Use a suitably unique filename on OPEN, and use version number ;0?  G     o Open a common (indexed) file /SHARE, and write the information towG       the shared file using a unique key -- date and PID, or some such._G       (You'll need a tool to clean out the outdated information in the         file, too.)L  G     o Create a custom application logging server, and write to the log  E       server (and thus to the log) via a mailbox (from DCL), via DCL  <       DECnet task-to-task, or via a local application image.  I     o Create a custom get-me-a-temporary-filename server, and use that...T  G     o Simply periodically clean out all log files that are, say, older u       than one week...  N  --------------------------- pure personal opinion ---------------------------L    Hoff (Stephen) Hoffman   OpenVMS Engineering   hoffman#xdelta.zko.dec.com   ------------------------------   Date: 4 JAN 2001 22:16:12 GMT-+ From: Dave Greenwood <greenwoodde@ornl.gov> ; Subject: Re: DCL: Retrieving file version from OPEN command-1 Message-ID: <4JAN01.22161206@feda34.fed.ornl.gov>2  ( kennsmit@gcfn.org (Kenneth Smith) wrote: >  u' > I am looking for a method to delete ae* > file that I am creating and closing with' > OPEN and CLOSE.  I have the file namet) > from the filespec name, but do not havet) > the version number.  I would prefer not + > to use a wildcard for the version number.m >  d) > Feel free to e-mail with any questions.p	 > Thanks,- > ks > kennsmit @ gcfn.orga >  E > Sample Code: >  k+ > $       OPEN /WRITE OUTPUT_FILE ERROR.TXTo3 > $       WRITE OUTPUT_FILE "An error has occurred". > $       CLOSE OUTPUT_FILE1+ > $       ... do something with OUTPUT_FILE  > $	... delete OUTPUT_FILE  = In addition to the suggestion of using the pid as part of the = filename or extension, you can open an explicit version.  Eg:k  , $       OPEN /WRITE OUTPUT_FILE ERROR.TXT;23  . If the file already exists you'll get an error   Dave --------------9 Dave Greenwood                Email: Greenwoodde@ORNL.GOV0H Oak Ridge National Lab        %STD-W-DISCLAIMER, I only speak for myself   ------------------------------  % Date: Thu, 04 Jan 2001 15:46:29 -0700Y% From: Dean Woodward <deanw@rdrop.com>-; Subject: Re: DCL: Retrieving file version from OPEN commanda) Message-ID: <3A54FD45.D10A180D@rdrop.com>s   Dave Greenwood wrote:e > * > kennsmit@gcfn.org (Kenneth Smith) wrote: > >c) > > I am looking for a method to delete a , > > file that I am creating and closing with) > > OPEN and CLOSE.  I have the file named+ > > from the filespec name, but do not have + > > the version number.  I would prefer not"- > > to use a wildcard for the version number.  > >P+ > > Feel free to e-mail with any questions.  > > Thanks,  > > ks > > kennsmit @ gcfn.orgn > >; > > Sample Code: > >s- > > $       OPEN /WRITE OUTPUT_FILE ERROR.TXT[5 > > $       WRITE OUTPUT_FILE "An error has occurred"1 > > $       CLOSE OUTPUT_FILEe- > > $       ... do something with OUTPUT_FILEa  > > $     ... delete OUTPUT_FILE > ? > In addition to the suggestion of using the pid as part of the-? > filename or extension, you can open an explicit version.  Eg:  > . > $       OPEN /WRITE OUTPUT_FILE ERROR.TXT;23 > 0 > If the file already exists you'll get an error  # If filename uniqueness is the goal:s  D $ OF_Name = f$getjpi("","pid")   + "_" + f$cvtime(,,"year")      + -D             f$cvtime(,,"month")        + f$cvtime(,,"day")       + -D             f$cvtime(,,"hour")         + f$cvtime(,,"minute")    + -B             f$cvtime(,,"second")       + f$cvtime(,,"hundredth") + ".TXT" $ OPEN /WRITE OFE 'OF_Name'd $ ...T  G OTOH, if you need to know the most recent version of a file, F$SEARCH()0H seems to return the most recent version first and work it's way down, so   $ FileVersion = ; F$ELEMENT(1,";",'F$PARSE(F$SEARCH("FOO.TXT"),,,"VERSION")')s  G should get you what you want- either do it before and add one, or do itn after.   ------------------------------  # Date: Thu, 04 Jan 2001 22:41:20 GMT-* From: Alan E. Feldman <alan48@my-deja.com>; Subject: Re: DCL: Retrieving file version from OPEN command:) Message-ID: <932u6e$5gj$1@nnrp1.deja.com>s  ( In article <932nni$9fe$1@acme.gcfn.org>,*   kennsmit@gcfn.org (Kenneth Smith) wrote: > ' > I am looking for a method to delete ac* > file that I am creating and closing with' > OPEN and CLOSE.  I have the file name ) > from the filespec name, but do not haveH) > the version number.  I would prefer not2+ > to use a wildcard for the version number.r >s) > Feel free to e-mail with any questions. 	 > Thanks,w > ks > kennsmit @ gcfn.orge >h > Sample Code: >e+ > $       OPEN /WRITE OUTPUT_FILE ERROR.TXTa3 > $       WRITE OUTPUT_FILE "An error has occurred"r > $       CLOSE OUTPUT_FILE + > $       ... do something with OUTPUT_FILEr > $	... delete OUTPUT_FILE >.  , You've hard-coded the file name, so just use   $ DELETE ERROR.TXT;-  < to delete the file. When you use the semicolon by itself, itG automatically refers to the most current version, which in this case issE the one you just created via OPEN/WRITE. There is no need to know theiE actual version number. Normally, you don't even need the ";" to refertA to the most current version, but with the DELETE command you must"C explicitly specify the version number, and using ";" is sufficient.i  E Whether this works for your full code depends, of course, on what "doe something with OUTPUT_FILE" is.d   --F NOTE: If you wish to e-mail me, please do NOT use the deja address. ItE is broken. Instead, use one of the addresses below, removing the longt wrong part first. Thanks.r   Disclaimer: JMHO Alan E. Feldman  &-)+ w: afeldman@gfigroup.ButItSaidItPrinted.com>5 h: alan48@dellnet.YouCantBelieveEverythingYouRead.comi     Sent via Deja.comf http://www.deja.com/   ------------------------------  $ Date: Thu, 4 Jan 2001 20:50:30 +0100> From: "Jean-Franois Marchal" <jean-francois.marchal@x9000.fr>+ Subject: Re: DEC-AXPVMS-VMS712_SYS-V0200--4a. Message-ID: <932k0q$fqn$1@reader1.imaginet.fr>  9 Shouldn't you first issue a SET DEF SYS$LOADABLE_IMAGES ?> Jean-Franois Marchalr X9000 - LYON (FR)1    8 "Peter Weaver" <peter.weaver@stelco.ca> wrote in message. news:5o356.114682$Z2.1324803@nnrp1.uunet.ca... >IA > "Hoff Hoffman" <hoffman@xdelta.zko.dec.nospam> wrote in message.2 > news:9327pi$rft$3@mailint03.im.hou.compaq.com... > >... > >   Workaround:C > >E( > >     $ RUN SYS$LOADABLE_IMAGES:SYSVER > >     REPLACE V7.1-2
 > >     WRITEr > >     $ EXIT > >... >n > Neat,m >  > $ SHOW SYS/NOPROC D > OpenVMS WEAVER  on node TSTBED  16-JUL-2000 13:33:49.39  Uptime  0
 > 00:08:03= > $ write sys$output "The version is: ''f$getsyi("version")'"i > The version is: WEAVER >  >  > -- >   RULES OF THE AIR >   -----------------b? >   #8. A 'good' landing is one from which you can walk away. AS; >       'great' landing is one after which they can use the  >       plane again. >o   ------------------------------  % Date: Thu, 04 Jan 2001 15:45:41 -0500d  From: norm.raphael@jamesbury.com+ Subject: Re: DEC-AXPVMS-VMS712_SYS-V0200--4o4 Message-ID: <C22569CA.00714975.00@jklh21.valmet.com>   Hoff, L Is there a way to intall the patch, then correct the version in the new file _before_ the reboot.iJ I want to do the upgrade, but have the reboot scheduled for early the next morningkM when it will not cause disruption, but I do not want to trust this command toM "staff."? Alternately, can I safely put it into the startup sequence with + $if "''f$getsyi("version")'" .eqs. "V7.2-1"h $theny  $ RUN SYS$LOADABLE_IMAGES:SYSVER REPLACE V7.1-2 WRITE. $ endifu ?s -Norm         7 hoffman@xdelta.zko.dec.nospam on 01/04/2001 11:18:58 AM-  / Please respond to hoffman@xdelta.zko.dec.nospam    To:   Info-VAX@mvb.saic.com< cc:., Subject:  Re: DEC-AXPVMS-VMS712_SYS-V0200--4          K In article <931tnd$6fp$1@nnrp1.deja.com>, karlrohwedder@my-deja.com writes:>E :After installing the patch (DEC-AXPVMS-VMS712_SYS-V0200--4.PCSI) andm :rebooting the system, isl" :announces itself as VMS V7.2-1...  
   Workaround:d  $     $ RUN SYS$LOADABLE_IMAGES:SYSVER     REPLACE V7.1-2	     WRITEe
     $ EXIT    N  --------------------------- pure personal opinion ---------------------------L    Hoff (Stephen) Hoffman   OpenVMS Engineering   hoffman#xdelta.zko.dec.com   ------------------------------  $ Date: Thu, 4 Jan 2001 14:24:42 -07005 From: "Laurie L. Vandenberg" <lvandenberg@uswest.net>t+ Subject: Re: DEC-AXPVMS-VMS712_SYS-V0200--4o3 Message-ID: <_7656.1619$d41.318500@news.uswest.net>a  J Did the install of this patch complete without errors?  You should not seeK the version change unless the PRODUCT INSTALL failed somehow before gettingc< to the final step where your old version number is restored.   Laurie Vandenberge  , <karlrohwedder@my-deja.com> wrote in message# news:931tnd$6fp$1@nnrp1.deja.com...p >f >t > A c h t u n g !l > W a r n i n g !i >hF > After installing the patch (DEC-AXPVMS-VMS712_SYS-V0200--4.PCSI) and > rebooting the system, is8 > announces itself as VMS V7.2-1 (quite a fast update!). > @ > This is done in the boot message and also with SHOW SYSTEM and > F$GETSYI("VERSION").I > A SHOW SYSTEM from another clusternode displays V7.2 as the VMS versions > as does SHOW CLUSTER.s >nG > This is not only annoying but very disturbing, because we have commonp > code, which checksI > the VMS version using lexical functions and acts accordingly (which now 	 > fails).c >s< > I have started a call but thought, other should be warned. > -- > mfg | regardso > Karl Rohwedder >  >  > Sent via Deja.coms > http://www.deja.com/   ------------------------------   Date: 4 Jan 2001 21:45:52 GMTf2 From: hoffman@xdelta.zko.dec.nospam (Hoff Hoffman)+ Subject: Re: DEC-AXPVMS-VMS712_SYS-V0200--4.6 Message-ID: <932qug$2cb$1@mailint03.im.hou.compaq.com>  W In article <C22569CA.00714975.00@jklh21.valmet.com>, norm.raphael@jamesbury.com writes:b  M :Is there a way to intall the patch, then correct the version in the new file  :_before_ the reboot.,  I   I'm told that this ECO is going to be corrected, you could wait for thel   update to arrive...c  E   If you do not immediately reboot after the ECO kit installation, I  H   *think* you will be able to reset the version number after installing E   the ECO and before you reboot.  (I have *not* tried this sequence.)aI   SYSVER resets the saved system version, you need to reboot OpenVMS for aD   the new value to be displayed -- various of the PCSI ECO kits use ;   SYSVER, you can pull one of these kits apart and look...)v  K :I want to do the upgrade, but have the reboot scheduled for early the nextwL :morning when it will not cause disruption, but I do not want to trust this  :command to "staff."...c  E   But can you test the SYSVER fix before the early-morning reboot of m   the production system?  C :Alternately, can I safely put it into the startup sequence with...  ..  H   You can certainly program the reboot sequence, but it can be (will be)H   quite easy to mess this up and either not reboot, or not complete the F   task.  I can state this potential difficulty from personal, um, er, H   nevermind.  :-)  (The classic OpenVMS VAX system upgrade will perform K   various tasks and then reboot itself, via the setting of the system-wide fK   startup command procedure and the contents of the referenced installationv    upgrade command procedure(s).)    N  --------------------------- pure personal opinion ---------------------------L    Hoff (Stephen) Hoffman   OpenVMS Engineering   hoffman#xdelta.zko.dec.com   ------------------------------  # Date: Thu, 04 Jan 2001 19:36:52 GMTt4 From: "Terry C. Shannon" <terryshannon@mediaone.net>, Subject: Re: Ebay dead as a post - yet again< Message-ID: <oh456.40087$1t.2090472@typhoon.ne.mediaone.net>  5 "Terry Kennedy" <terry@gate.tmk.com> wrote in messageo! news:G6nFvL.A9z@spcuna.spc.edu... A > Brian Schenkenberger, VAXman- <system@sendspamhere.org> writes: H > > I don't have an exact date of their last "major" outage nor an exact figureG > > for want is >99%; however, if you assume about mid-August and 99.5%h that's, > > still an awful large amount of downtime! >iL >   Also, there is an incredible amount of "scheduled maintenance" which hasI > some or all of the site down for 4+ hours every week, and I'm sure theye/ > don't count that when reporting their uptime.t  K Dohhhh... I thought a clustered solution allowed you to take a node offlineFG for maintenance, burnt offerings, and incantations without bringing the  whole cluster down.o  	 Silly me.:   >cK >   Performance like this would get technical management canned at any old-nG > school company. But in a dot-com, you can get away with anything - at  leasti > until there's competition...  K Or until Joe Investor realizes that a high "cash burn rate" isn't quite thesH same as a profit. Given the number of dot com bombs we've seen in recent/ months, ol' Joe might be getting the message...t   ------------------------------  # Date: Thu, 04 Jan 2001 20:59:48 GMTb= From: system@SendSpamHere.ORG (Brian Schenkenberger, VAXman-) , Subject: Re: Ebay dead as a post - yet again0 Message-ID: <009F59EF.D41D3BB5@SendSpamHere.ORG>  s In article <oh456.40087$1t.2090472@typhoon.ne.mediaone.net>, "Terry C. Shannon" <terryshannon@mediaone.net> writes:s >:6 >"Terry Kennedy" <terry@gate.tmk.com> wrote in message" >news:G6nFvL.A9z@spcuna.spc.edu...B >> Brian Schenkenberger, VAXman- <system@sendspamhere.org> writes:I >> > I don't have an exact date of their last "major" outage nor an exactt >figuresH >> > for want is >99%; however, if you assume about mid-August and 99.5% >that'si- >> > still an awful large amount of downtime!a >>M >>   Also, there is an incredible amount of "scheduled maintenance" which hasRJ >> some or all of the site down for 4+ hours every week, and I'm sure they0 >> don't count that when reporting their uptime. >iL >Dohhhh... I thought a clustered solution allowed you to take a node offlineH >for maintenance, burnt offerings, and incantations without bringing the >whole cluster down. >.
 >Silly me.  F That all depends upon who created the "cluster" -- Sun MicroSystems or Digital Equipment Corp.   L >>   Performance like this would get technical management canned at any old-H >> school company. But in a dot-com, you can get away with anything - at >least >> until there's competition...a >CL >Or until Joe Investor realizes that a high "cash burn rate" isn't quite theI >same as a profit. Given the number of dot com bombs we've seen in recent 0 >months, ol' Joe might be getting the message...  H Joe Investor only knows what the market ANAL-ysts tell him is a good andI sound investment.  The ANAL-ysts, for the most part, probably have a dif-IH ficult time of it discerning a computer from a high-tech toaster.  I seeI these bozos from the top brokerages on the CNN Market Watch each morning. H They all come across as politicians -- they speak alot of words but they say very little.     --O VAXman- OpenVMS APE certification number: AAA-0001     VAXman(at)TMESIS(dot)COM              O city, n., 1. a place where trees are cut down and streets are named after them.e   ------------------------------  % Date: Thu, 04 Jan 2001 22:43:46 -0000 - From: wspencer@ap.nospam.org (Warren Spencer) , Subject: Re: Ebay dead as a post - yet again/ Message-ID: <t59v52ippv29a1@news.supernews.com>$   Terry,  ? Do you happen to know who wrote the AP article you quote below?n   ws   -- g3 << What if there were no hypothetical questions? >>h   Warren Spencer Senior Software Engineer The Associated Press  ? ** My employer does not necessarily agree with my statements **o  4 ____________________________________________________5 terryshannon@mediaone.net (Terry C. Shannon) wrote ina2 <60T46.32451$1M.7306160@typhoon.ne.mediaone.net>: F >Yep. Kinda reminds me of the old Saturday Night Live "Weekend Update" >skit which always included... >s) >"and Generalissamo Franco is still dead"  > 9 >AP picked up on this several hours ago. According to AP,i >nD >"A company spokesman said the parallel systems that operates eBay'sF >auction service both went down. The cause of the problem was unknown,I >but eBay spokesman Kevin Pursglove denied the service had been hacked or + >interfered with from an outside intruder."u   ------------------------------  # Date: Fri, 05 Jan 2001 02:18:40 GMT 4 From: "Curtis Rempel" <vmsguy.no.spam.here@home.com>, Subject: Re: Ebay dead as a post - yet again< Message-ID: <4aa56.274360$76.6949821@news1.rdc1.ab.home.com>  9 "Bob Koehler" <koehler@eisner.decus.org> wrote in message % news:WAhuFHFoKpCc@eisner.decus.org...nJ > In article <3A546D87.A3970877@gtech.com>, Arne =?iso-8859-1?Q?Vajh=F8j?=  <arne.vajhoej@gtech.com> writes: > > Anders wrote:sG > >> Well it has been dead for some time now, I wonder who will get them blamef > >> this time.n > > @ > > Maybe their machine-romm are too hot. Or have to much static > > electricity.F > > Or the humidity is wrong. Or the power floctates too much. Or .... > >n >-J > It was the guy selling the antique watch.  Turns out it had radium paintI > on the hands.  Cache memory chips started imagining the radiation hits.  >1H > ----------------------------------------------------------------------A > Bob Koehler                     | Computer Sciences Corporation0? > NASA GSFC Flight Software       | Federal Sector, Civil GroupiG >                                 | please remove ".aspm" when replying   C Andrew is missing his cue ... must still be fitting his mask on ...   1 <background music swells to "Send in the Clowns">s   ------------------------------  " Date: Fri, 5 Jan 2001 04:27:03 GMT( From: Terry Kennedy <terry@gate.tmk.com>, Subject: Re: Ebay dead as a post - yet again' Message-ID: <G6o9p3.5uE@spcuna.spc.edu>   ? Brian Schenkenberger, VAXman- <system@sendspamhere.org> writes:FJ > Joe Investor only knows what the market ANAL-ysts tell him is a good andK > sound investment.  The ANAL-ysts, for the most part, probably have a dif-eJ > ficult time of it discerning a computer from a high-tech toaster.  I seeK > these bozos from the top brokerages on the CNN Market Watch each morning.;J > They all come across as politicians -- they speak alot of words but they > say very little.  J   I had a discussion about this with a friend of mine who's been investingI for 40+ years. I maintain that the analysts generally don't do a good jobaF of covering the tech companies. He thinks they can't be expected to beH technical. I think that if they're managing a multi-billion dollar fund,H they can certainly afford some tech types to tell them when stuff is BS.  J   I had an experience with one company which produced non-working productsH and took shareholder's equity and built private startups which they thenG took public and pocketed the profits, rather than returning them to the H shareholders. This company was rated as a "strong buy" by most analysts,E even as they rode the stock down to 5 from 100. Oddly enough, many of H those same analysts had dumped their funds' shares while still screaming# "buy! buy! buy!" from the rooftops.   I   Of course, I can't see why a [different] company with no profits and no J forseeable chance of having proits can IPO for $20, and run up to $84. But now it's trading for $0.03.   G   The Palm IPO was another good one - 3Com's remaining holdings in PalmaJ after the IPO were worth more than all of the rest of 3Com, which may wellG have fueled their "screw it, we don't have to do this any more" planned " sell-off of various product lines.  4         Terry Kennedy             http://www.tmk.com5         terry@tmk.com             Jersey City, NJ USA,   ------------------------------  # Date: Fri, 05 Jan 2001 03:29:48 GMTo4 From: "Terry C. Shannon" <terryshannon@mediaone.net>, Subject: Re: Ebay dead as a post - yet again< Message-ID: <Mcb56.40612$1t.2151139@typhoon.ne.mediaone.net>  D According to Information Week, eBay had a big-time visit from Mister
 Murphy....  E Auction site eBay Inc. was plagued by crashes and failures Wednesday,sJ causing the site to go offline for almost 11 hours... the company said theL outage was the result of a series of failures, compounded by the decision toH put off needed hardware repairs until after the busy holiday season, and' that it intends to make rapid upgrades.>J The outage began about 11:34 a.m. PST Wednesday when hardware in a back-upD system malfunctioned. When that system was rebooted, another problemK developed in storage shared by both the primary and back-up systems, takingtG down the entire site. A third backup was activated for approximately 40CF minutes before crashing as well. The site wasn't back online and fully operational until 9:56 p.m.u  H eBay claims its site has demonstrated greater than 99% uptime and backupG systems have functioned without incident during the last four quarters.e   ------------------------------  $ Date: Thu, 4 Jan 2001 16:14:23 -0500' From: "Bill Todd" <billtodd@foo.mv.com>c1 Subject: Re: File system performance and security.( Message-ID: <932ot5$6e4$1@pyrite.mv.net>  7 Paul Repacholi <prep@prep.synonet.com> wrote in messages* news:87n1d77d0q.fsf@k9.prep.synonet.com...+ > "Bill Todd" <billtodd@foo.mv.com> writes:t >fJ > > A maxim that assumes technology stands still.  When your technology is asL > > far out-of-date (albeit admirably maintained and executed) as VMS's fileJ > > system technology is, then you can pick all three if you're willing to take; > > the one-time hit of updating it (and do the job right).y >e > Then sell it on E-bay. >u > Oh, sorry, I forgot... :|h  D Only relevant if you assume VMS development is as incompetent at new projects as Sun's is.E   - bill   >O > --> > Paul Repacholi                               1 Crescent Rd.,9 > +61 (08) 9257-1001                           Kalamunda.gB >                                              West Australia 60760 > Raw, Cooked or Well-done, it's all half baked.   ------------------------------  $ Date: Thu, 4 Jan 2001 16:10:58 -0500' From: "Bill Todd" <billtodd@foo.mv.com>- Subject: Re: Giving up on VMS ( Message-ID: <932omm$6ds$1@pyrite.mv.net>  3 Terry Kennedy <terry@gate.tmk.com> wrote in messagef! news:G6MJKF.B10@spcuna.spc.edu...S   ...0  H >   FWIW, I have a very large number (I've got over 150 licenses, for an ideaH > of the value of "large") of Unix systems here (BSDI's BSD/OS) and I've never L > had a filesystem corruption issue*. This is using the standard 4.4BSD-and-J > later filesystem with soft updates enabled. On a normal shutdown/reboot,G > fsck doesn't run as the filesystems are marked as clean. If there's a. crash.= > or power failure, fsck runs, just as VMS rebuilds on mount.Y  I My understanding of both fsck and VMS rebuild is far from perfect, but myeH impression was that running the latter after a crash was purely optionalG (e.g., to recover 'lost' space) and generally fairly quick (in that the K portion of the file system it must check is bounded to that space cached byEK the failed node), whereas running the former after a crash in a traditionaliC Unix environment (no file system meta-data log, no soft updates) istI absolutely mandatory (if you don't want to spread the corruption that the-1 crash may have left) and can be far more lengthy.o  I However, I also thought that soft updates made running fsck after a crashgJ optional (in something like the same sense that the VMS rebuild is), sinceG they attempt to maintain on-disk consistency (modulo some possibly lost ) space at the crash instant) at all times.e   - bill   ------------------------------  " Date: Fri, 5 Jan 2001 04:10:29 GMT( From: Terry Kennedy <terry@gate.tmk.com> Subject: Re: Giving up on VMSc' Message-ID: <G6o8xI.4w3@spcuna.spc.edu>n  ' Bill Todd <billtodd@foo.mv.com> writes:.K > My understanding of both fsck and VMS rebuild is far from perfect, but my J > impression was that running the latter after a crash was purely optionalI > (e.g., to recover 'lost' space) and generally fairly quick (in that theoM > portion of the file system it must check is bounded to that space cached by M > the failed node), whereas running the former after a crash in a traditional E > Unix environment (no file system meta-data log, no soft updates) is K > absolutely mandatory (if you don't want to spread the corruption that thed3 > crash may have left) and can be far more lengthy.C  I   Well, both rebuilding and fscking are the default behavior if the file-nI system is found to be marked dirty when the system restarts. I think that I implies the vendors think it's a good idea. I know mount/rebuild isn't as I thorough as analyze/disk/repair, and it's probably fairer to compare fscke with the latter.  H   "Traditional" Unix implementations would tend to go off into the weedsG if they attempted to operate on things like a corrupted directory - thetI filesystem code was littered with a bunch of panic() calls if any sort of F consistency check failed. In recent years a lot of this has been fixedG (I've fixed some of it myself) - for example, you usually can't cd into I a corrupted directory now, instead of getting a panic. But since there is ? no single "Unix", different implementations behave differently.-  K > However, I also thought that soft updates made running fsck after a crashtL > optional (in something like the same sense that the VMS rebuild is), sinceI > they attempt to maintain on-disk consistency (modulo some possibly lost + > space at the crash instant) at all times.   H   Perhaps you were thinking of lfs, the log-structured filesystem? Trad-H itional filesystem updates wrote data asynchronously and metadata synch-G ronously, which meant that deleting lots of files took a long time. The)H dangerous async mount option changed the metadata operations to async asD well, but that had the usual bad effects after a crash. Soft updatesG force all writes to happen asynchronously, but in a sequence that guar-1H antees filesystem coherency. Another important point is that updates canG be canceled if the net result of applying an update would be no change.0G For example, on a Unix system a C compilation uses the disk heavily formI work files, yet the only useful result is an executable program or objectcG module. So all of the updates that would have put the work files on the F disk, updated the directory, read the workfiles, and then deleted them are voided as un-necessary.   H   I haven't tried crashing a system when there are lots of updates pend-= ing, and then skipping the fsck. I should try it sometime 8-)n  4         Terry Kennedy             http://www.tmk.com5         terry@tmk.com             Jersey City, NJ USAr   ------------------------------  % Date: Thu, 04 Jan 2001 20:39:57 +0000v4 From: John Laird <john@laird-towers.freeserve.co.uk> Subject: Re: Happy New Years8 Message-ID: <37895t03n0rp48st5549vaqu94efp39u2p@4ax.com>  C On Wed, 03 Jan 2001 13:43:25 +0000, Alan Greig <agreig@my-deja.com>p wrote:   >And we still haveD >to explain that exact 9/5 + 32 conversion factor whcih follows from$ >the 180 degrees liquid water range.  H It may not have been exact, but was redefined to be exact at some point.  . The inch became 2.54cm in just such a fashion.   	Johnh -- o
 John Laird   ------------------------------  $ Date: Fri, 5 Jan 2001 10:51:11 +0800, From: "Chin-Yung" <chinyung@mail2000.com.tw>" Subject: How can I setup ucx$ntpd?* Message-ID: <933d1g$im9@netnews.hinet.net>  D I can startup ntpd without any error, but I do not know how to setupI UCX$NTP_TZ ( My server is in taiwan.) and configure my vms server to havedG time synchronization with the other time server in internet? Is there ar! ntp.conf file, like unix, in vms?-    
 Best regards,s   chinyung   ------------------------------  % Date: Thu, 04 Jan 2001 13:23:16 -0800n/ From: Terry Marosites <TMarosites@unitedad.com>-6 Subject: RE: Retrieving file version from OPEN commandM Message-ID: <1137A4A23A51D311B2D600105A1D5213026FE067@seantexch.unitedad.com>    Hello,  
 why not this:-! $       pid =  f$getjpi("","pid").. $       OPEN /WRITE OUTPUT_FILE ERROR_'pid.TXT1 $       WRITE OUTPUT_FILE "An error has occurred"s $       CLOSE OUTPUT_FILEn) $       ... do something with OUTPUT_FILEr $	  delete error_'pid.txt;1x     Terry   i   -----Original Message-----2 From: kennsmit@gcfn.org [mailto:kennsmit@gcfn.org]) Sent: Thursday, January 04, 2001 12:51 PM  To: Info-VAX@Mvb.Saic.Como7 Subject: DCL: Retrieving file version from OPEN commando      % I am looking for a method to delete ao( file that I am creating and closing with% OPEN and CLOSE.  I have the file nameo' from the filespec name, but do not have ' the version number.  I would prefer nota) to use a wildcard for the version number.n  ' Feel free to e-mail with any questions.w Thanks,i ks kennsmit @ gcfn.org    Sample Code:  ) $       OPEN /WRITE OUTPUT_FILE ERROR.TXTe1 $       WRITE OUTPUT_FILE "An error has occurred"l $       CLOSE OUTPUT_FILE ) $       ... do something with OUTPUT_FILEi $	... delete OUTPUT_FILE   ------------------------------  % Date: Wed, 03 Jan 2001 21:01:21 +0000 - From: "David L. Nicol" <david@kasey.umkc.edu>o Subject: RMS for unix?. Message-ID: <3A539321.F8F78DCB@kasey.umkc.edu>  N Is there a rms package which will work on top of the unix filesystem interface (seek, read, write) anywhere?r  G I am porting a vms/rms application to portable unix code and if I couldyP simply link the thing against a local rms library I think that might make things* easier than rewriting it all in terms like  8    lseek(datafile, getpositionfromname(name), SEEK_SET);0    read(datafile, &datastructure, sizeof(datum))    B I know that this question violates the spirit of RMS being tied toA disk geometry and page size and so forth as tight as the wires in D a twisted pair cable, responses reinforming me of the superiority ofB VMS over UNIX w/o providing directions towards valid (incomplete?)H libraries will be printed out and lateralyl inserted into the bird cage.     -- lC                            David Nicol 816.235.1187 nicold@umkc.edu C                                          "the toad doesn't know..."t   ------------------------------  % Date: Mon, 08 Jan 2001 01:22:18 +0000t) From: Christof Brass <brass@infopuls.com>r/ Subject: Re: Sending messages to an applicationi+ Message-ID: <3A59164A.4AB9861@infopuls.com>    Arne Vajhj wrote: >  > JF Mezei wrote:eN > > Most GUI platforms, even my old trusted PSION 3 (not actuall a GUI) have aR > > mechanism whereas one application can send a message to another application toP > > tell it to open/close a file. (or start that application with a file to open > > by default). > > N > > For instance, while reading an email, you can view an attachement with theP > > proper application, and if the application is already started, it just opensB > > the new file, thus providing much faster service to the user). > >mQ > > VMS , as an OS, doesn't have that built-in. But does X-windows have this typeo > > of feature ? > G > I think you are asking about a feature like DDE on Windows, where oner > appeG > can send commands to another app and retrive output from that commandg
 > as well. > / > I have never seen such functionality for VMS.d > D > It would not be difficult to create a customized solution. Server: > createD > thraed that listen to a server socket, read and processes commands > received,aG > send back response. Client: open socket, send command, read response.- > H > But stuff like this is most  usefull, if all applicatiosn use the same  > standard. Like DDE on Windows. >  > Arne  < You're right. Although COM (or even DCOM) has been ported to@ some UNIX derivatives by Software AG to get some money (payed by9 M$) which was desperately needed it has never gained goodp@ acceptance. The best way today on VMS is CORBA. But as with DDE,< OLE, [D]COM, [D]SOM and EJB all parties have to agree on the> same protocol and - more important - to be aware of that. Even? on the W2k problem line of OSs an application has to be an e.g.o- OLE automation server to be used in that way.e   ------------------------------  % Date: Thu, 04 Jan 2001 22:57:00 -0500e# From: sol gongola <sol@adldata.com>u/ Subject: Re: Sending messages to an applicatione' Message-ID: <3A55460C.73F2@adldata.com>o   Christof Brass wrote:i >  > Arne Vajhj wrote: > >d > > JF Mezei wrote: P > > > Most GUI platforms, even my old trusted PSION 3 (not actuall a GUI) have aT > > > mechanism whereas one application can send a message to another application toR > > > tell it to open/close a file. (or start that application with a file to open > > > by default). > > >8P > > > For instance, while reading an email, you can view an attachement with theR > > > proper application, and if the application is already started, it just opensD > > > the new file, thus providing much faster service to the user). > > >FS > > > VMS , as an OS, doesn't have that built-in. But does X-windows have this type8 > > > of feature ? > >.I > > I think you are asking about a feature like DDE on Windows, where onef > > appiI > > can send commands to another app and retrive output from that commandb > > as well. > >m1 > > I have never seen such functionality for VMS.t > > F > > It would not be difficult to create a customized solution. Server:
 > > createF > > thraed that listen to a server socket, read and processes commands
 > > received, I > > send back response. Client: open socket, send command, read response.- > >-J > > But stuff like this is most  usefull, if all applicatiosn use the same" > > standard. Like DDE on Windows. > >t > > Arne > > > You're right. Although COM (or even DCOM) has been ported toB > some UNIX derivatives by Software AG to get some money (payed by; > M$) which was desperately needed it has never gained goodkB > acceptance. The best way today on VMS is CORBA. But as with DDE,> > OLE, [D]COM, [D]SOM and EJB all parties have to agree on the@ > same protocol and - more important - to be aware of that. EvenA > on the W2k problem line of OSs an application has to be an e.g. / > OLE automation server to be used in that way.e  @ It sounds like the VMS mailbox facility where a process opens a > connection and sends data into it. Another application process= opens a connection to the same mailbox and retrieves the datac that was deposited.m  5 I think this has been part of VMS from the beginning.b   sol gongolae   ------------------------------  $ Date: Thu, 4 Jan 2001 20:47:02 +0100> From: "Jean-Franois Marchal" <jean-francois.marchal@x9000.fr> Subject: Re: Source dor TSM021?f. Message-ID: <932jqa$fll$1@reader1.imaginet.fr>   Hi !  D Maybe you are trying to run the DCX_AXPEXE files from an ODS5 disk ?+ I think there is a problem in this case ...t   Jean-Franois Marchali X9000 - LYON (FR)m    5 "Terry Kennedy" <terry@gate.tmk.com> wrote in messagef! news:G6nFoD.9y8@spcuna.spc.edu...e2 > Ken Fairfield; SLAC: 650-926-2924; FAX: 926-3515% <Fairfield@slac.stanford.edu> writes:sL > >         No joy. :-(  On  downloading  the  files  (with Netscape 3.03 onF > >     VMS), then RUNning the DCX_AXPEXE (or DCX_VAXEXE) file, I get: > [snip]L > >         I've  just  written  to  the  webmaster  at  DNPG  but  I'm  notL > >     particularly  hopeful.  Seems the files get downloaded as  Stream-LFL > >     files rather than in binary, fixed 512 byte record files.  Is this aL > >     web server problem on their end, or a Netscape problem on my end?  IE > >     don't know.  What I'd give for anonymous ftp at this point...u >pF >   Looks like the Digital curse of screwing up their web presence has propa-K > gated itself to the folks at DNPG. Their web server doesn't recognize thelK > .DCX_AXPEXE file type as binary, so it sents it as text (which is why theaH > file displays in Lynx rather than offering save-as). It looks like theK > mangling is happening at the server side, since none of a PC client, Lynx 0 > on VMS or Lynx on Unix can get a working file. >-6 >         Terry Kennedy             http://www.tmk.com7 >         terry@tmk.com             Jersey City, NJ USAR   ------------------------------  " Date: Thu, 4 Jan 2001 20:08:06 GMT( From: Terry Kennedy <terry@gate.tmk.com> Subject: Re: Source dor TSM021?i' Message-ID: <G6nMLI.ArK@spcuna.spc.edu>o  @ "Jean-Francois Marchal" <jean-francois.marchal@x9000.fr> writes:F > Maybe you are trying to run the DCX_AXPEXE files from an ODS5 disk ?- > I think there is a problem in this case ...,  I   No, my analysis was correct - the server is screwed up. Here's the log:h   prompt> telnet www.dnpg.com 80 Trying 63.105.58.26... Connected to www.dnpg.com. Escape character is '^]'.s3 GET /dnpg/dr/servers/tsm/TSM021.DCX_AXPEXE HTTP/1.0    HTTP/1.1 200 OKs# Date: Thu, 04 Jan 2001 20:04:47 GMT F Server: Apache/1.3.6 (Unix) mod_perl/1.21 mod_ssl/2.2.8 OpenSSL/0.9.2b, Last-Modified: Wed, 16 Jun 1999 20:55:05 GMT ETag: "1ed803-47911e-37680f29" Accept-Ranges: bytes Content-Length: 4690206n Connection: closer Content-Type: text/plain  &   Note the "Content-type: text/plain".  4         Terry Kennedy             http://www.tmk.com5         terry@tmk.com             Jersey City, NJ USA-   ------------------------------   Date: 4 Jan 2001 12:22:04 PST0T From: Fairfield@SLAC.Stanford.EDU (Ken Fairfield; SLAC: 650-926-2924; FAX: 926-3515) Subject: Re: Source dor TSM021?$3 Message-ID: <$cs69PNfSahC@mccdev.slac.stanford.edu>.   In article <sbWDyF14Tzl0@mccdev.slac.stanford.edu>, Fairfield@SLAC.Stanford.EDU (Ken Fairfield; SLAC: 650-926-2924; FAX: 926-3515) writes: [..]J >         If anyone out there  has  copies  of  the TSM021 savesets or DCXJ >     files,  at  least  for  Alpha VMS if not both,  and  can  make  them; >     available, I'd be most appreciative and in your debt!   H         Thanks to everyone who  responded,  both  here and privately.  I6     now have a "good" copy of the TSM021 distribution.  H         Just to be  sure,  I  tried  downloading  from  DNPG  again thisH     morning  and  even  after several attempts, none  of  the  downloadsH     completed successfully.  It may be some network issue between us andH     them.  Therefore, it may not be so unlikely that  there  was  actualH     corruption  during my download attempts yesterday.  Furthermore, theH     file attributes being stream-lf was  a  red herring since I was ableH     to download the DCX kit from another kind soul this morning, it cameE     in with stream-lf records, but it ran and decompressed correctly.g  H         One other point that was  unclear  from  the DNPG web site.  TheH     TSM021.A  installation saveset installs on _both_ VAX and Alpha,  soH     you  only   need   to   download   one   of   TSM021.DCX_AXPEXE   orH     TSM021.DCX_VAXEXE,   not  both.   Choose  which  ever  one  is  more     convenient for you.t  0         Again, thanks to everyone for your help!               -Ken -- mM  Kenneth H. Fairfield            |  Internet: Fairfield@SLC.Slac.Stanford.Edus:  SLAC, 2575 Sand Hill Rd, MS 46  |  Voice:    650-926-2924:  Menlo Park, CA  94025           |  FAX:      650-926-3515N  -----------------------------------------------------------------------------B  These opinions are mine, not SLAC's, Stanford's, nor the DOE's...   ------------------------------  % Date: Thu, 04 Jan 2001 15:00:51 -0700d% From: Dean Woodward <deanw@rdrop.com>r Subject: Re: Source dor TSM021?e) Message-ID: <3A54F293.FC789E04@rdrop.com>o  9 "Ken Fairfield; SLAC: 650-926-2924; FAX: 926-3515" wrote:o > J >         Just to be  sure,  I  tried  downloading  from  DNPG  again thisJ >     morning  and  even  after several attempts, none  of  the  downloadsJ >     completed successfully.  It may be some network issue between us and >     them.a  D But I'm having the same problem.  Netscape & IE 5.5 can be forced toC download files, but either one gets me assorted flavors of useless.-  D So, not to pester the kind soul who has a working copy too much, but <aol>g me too!o </aol>   ------------------------------  " Date: Thu, 4 Jan 2001 21:40:21 GMT/ From: "Richard L. Dyson" <rick-dyson@uiowa.edu>d Subject: Re: Source dor TSM021?e) Message-ID: <3A54A774.5DAE8E0C@uiowa.edu>s   Dean Woodward wrote: > ; > "Ken Fairfield; SLAC: 650-926-2924; FAX: 926-3515" wrote:l > >sL > >         Just to be  sure,  I  tried  downloading  from  DNPG  again thisL > >     morning  and  even  after several attempts, none  of  the  downloadsL > >     completed successfully.  It may be some network issue between us and
 > >     them.a > F > But I'm having the same problem.  Netscape & IE 5.5 can be forced toE > download files, but either one gets me assorted flavors of useless.o > F > So, not to pester the kind soul who has a working copy too much, but > <aol>i	 > me too!m > </aol>  A 	I have this kit from the past and it was OK for me.  I only havehF the Alpha flavor.  I'll leave it on my anonymous FTP for a day or two.  C 	ftp://www-pi.physics.uiowa.edu/~dyson/TSM021_DCX_AXP.EXE  <-binaryiA 	ftp://www-pi.physics.uiowa.edu/~dyson/TSM_PAK.COM         <-texto   Regards, rick --  H Richard L. Dyson                                    rick-dyson@uiowa.eduH  _   _      _____                http://www-pi.physics.uiowa.edu/~dyson/H | | | |    |_   _|   Systems Analyst                     O: 319/335-1879H | | | | of   | |     The University of Iowa            FAX: 319/335-17536 | \_/ |     _| |_    Department of Physics & Astronomy-  \___/     |_____|   Iowa City, IA 52242-1479    ------------------------------    Date: 05 Jan 2001 05:44:21 +0800, From: Paul Repacholi <prep@prep.synonet.com> Subject: Re: Source dor TSM021?h0 Message-ID: <87y9wr3scq.fsf@k9.prep.synonet.com>  * Terry Kennedy <terry@gate.tmk.com> writes:  K >   No, my analysis was correct - the server is screwed up. Here's the log:h >   > prompt> telnet www.dnpg.com 80 > Trying 63.105.58.26... > Connected to www.dnpg.com. > Escape character is '^]'.d5 > GET /dnpg/dr/servers/tsm/TSM021.DCX_AXPEXE HTTP/1.0o >  > HTTP/1.1 200 OK % > Date: Thu, 04 Jan 2001 20:04:47 GMTnH > Server: Apache/1.3.6 (Unix) mod_perl/1.21 mod_ssl/2.2.8 OpenSSL/0.9.2b. > Last-Modified: Wed, 16 Jun 1999 20:55:05 GMT  > ETag: "1ed803-47911e-37680f29" > Accept-Ranges: bytes > Content-Length: 4690206  > Connection: closep > Content-Type: text/plain > ( >   Note the "Content-type: text/plain". >   . Terry is correct. Lynx also downloads in text.  : BTW, you must get the file to suit the machine you want to decompress on... e  : Why the F they didn't go to zip files, and get MUCH better) compression. And, shock horror, standard!k   Nights who say NIH.p     --  < Paul Repacholi                               1 Crescent Rd.,7 +61 (08) 9257-1001                           Kalamunda.e@                                              West Australia 6076. Raw, Cooked or Well-done, it's all half baked.   ------------------------------  # Date: Thu, 04 Jan 2001 21:36:14 GMT , From: peterw@u.genie.co.uk (Peter Watkinson)- Subject: Re: The Listserver here has gone mad5; Message-ID: <3a54eb25.844382@newshost.netscapeonline.co.uk>>  @ On 22 Dec 2000 22:39:55 GMT, gartmann@immunbio.mpg.de (Christoph Gartmann) wrote:  e >In article <920k0m$rgf$05$1@news.t-online.com>, "Helge Krambeck" <helgekrambeck@t-online.de> writes: > >>I just replied to my own Post (SMTP Server under OpenVMS...)7 >>Now the Listserver has gone mad and keeps telling me,h5 >>that i am not allowed to post the same thing again,o2 >>which I DIDNT DO. Can anybody who is responsible9 >>for the Listserver please stop this stupid machine ????- >-P >Had the same problem with my last posting. Let's see whether it persits on this >one, too... >w	 >Regards,p >   Christoph Gartmann >3I >-- --------------------------------------------------------------------+oI >| Max-Planck-Institut fuer      Phone   : +49-761-5108-464   Fax: -452 | I >| Immunbiologie                                                        |iI >| Postfach 1169                 Internet: gartmann@immunbio.mpg.de     |sI >| D-79011  Freiburg, FRG                                               |:I >+--------- http://www.immunbio.mpg.de/home/english/menue.html ---------+:    
 Hi Christoph,r  B I can't help you with your email problem. However I was reading anD article in the Metro ( A London newspaper) the other day about a newE baldness cure from the Max Planck Institue for Immune Biology where IT? see you work. Do you get priority access to this stuff. Would aL? slightly used  Alpha get me a pre production sample for testing  purposes only????????x    Kind regards,  " (a slightly follically challenged)   Peter Watkinsoni peterw@u.genie.co.uk& http://www.windsurf-international.com/ http://www.pwnavigate.com/ http://you.genie.co.uk/peterw/   ------------------------------  $ Date: Thu, 4 Jan 2001 20:16:36 +0100. From: "Jesper Naur" <jesper.naur@post.tele.dk>1 Subject: Re: using a multihead XP1000 workstations, Message-ID: <932i1l$267$1@news.inet.tele.dk>  > Fred Kleinsorge <kleinsorge@star.zko.dec.com> wrote in message& news:932esf$9nh6$1@lead.zk3.dec.com... > You can place a file in thegG > sys$manager account: decw$server_access_allowed.dat (it's been a long  time -L > I think that's the name) which has a host list in it, that will be used as a ; > fallback.  The format is the same as the security setup::- >- > protocol hostname username >  > In plain ASCII format. >0   The correct name is:  2         SYS$MANAGER:DECW$SERVER_ACCESS_TRUSTED.DAT  ' You may also want to look into the file>  '     SYS$MANAGER:DECW$SERVER_0_ERROR.LOGo  > which sometimes contains loggings from unsuccessful connection	 attempts.m         Best regards     Jesper Naurb   ------------------------------   Date: 4 Jan 2001 20:27:03 +0100m* From: eplan@kapsch.net (Peter LANGSTOEGER)1 Subject: Re: using a multihead XP1000 workstationk* Message-ID: <3a54ce87$1@news.kapsch.co.at>  ] In article <932i1l$267$1@news.inet.tele.dk>, "Jesper Naur" <jesper.naur@post.tele.dk> writes:e? >Fred Kleinsorge <kleinsorge@star.zko.dec.com> wrote in messagef' >news:932esf$9nh6$1@lead.zk3.dec.com...  >> You can place a file in theO >> sys$manager account: decw$server_access_allowed.dat (it's been a long time -(O >> I think that's the name) which has a host list in it, that will be used as ac< >> fallback.  The format is the same as the security setup:: >> >> protocol hostname username  >> >> In plain ASCII format.h >o >The correct name is:  >-3 >        SYS$MANAGER:DECW$SERVER_ACCESS_TRUSTED.DAT0   No, Fred is right. There are two different files:  + 	SYS$MANAGER:DECW$SERVER_ACCESS_ALLOWED.DATc+ 	SYS$MANAGER:DECW$SERVER_ACCESS_TRUSTED.DATs  J with AFAIK almost identical functionality. IIRC one is used for the accessI to the X11 server and the other is used for the change access to the hostaH access list on this X11 server (like read-only versus read-write access)M while noone is logged on to the graphic display controlled by the x11 server.d  I Logging in means loading the user's security settings (stored in the fileaB DECW$SMB_SECURITY.DAT - modified by Session Manager Menu "Options"H "Security" or - by brute force - with an editor) to the X11 server (withE the SYS$SYSTEM:DECW$WSINIT.EXE) thus overriding whatever security wasu9 defined via SYS$MANAGER:DECW$SERVER_ACCESS_*.DAT files...?  G Hhhhm, time to read the docs again to be sure. It's too long ago. Sigh.n   -- p< Peter "EPLAN" LANGSTOEGER           Tel.    +43 1 81111-2651; Network and OpenVMS system manager  Fax.    +43 1 81111-888t< <<< KAPSCH AG  Wagenseilgasse 1     E-mail  eplan@kapsch.netH A-1121 VIENNA  AUSTRIA              "I'm not a pessimist, I'm a realist"   ------------------------------  # Date: Fri, 05 Jan 2001 01:08:09 GMT $ From: Stegner <stegner@mediaone.net> Subject: VAX to NT migration?i, Message-ID: <3A551F4E.A8CCDAC1@mediaone.net>  H Might anyone know of a utility (either free or fee) to convert/translateA VAX Assembler (Macro?) to Windows/NT assembler?   I'm thinking ofe migrating some applications...   thanks,y TJ   ------------------------------  % Date: Thu, 04 Jan 2001 23:04:24 -0500e# From: sol gongola <sol@adldata.com>w! Subject: Re: VAX to NT migration?J' Message-ID: <3A5547C8.4DE8@adldata.com>p  6 You can't easily translate the complex VAX (or alpha) / instruction set to the relatively simple intel  6 platform instructions. Even less possible would be the4 man-handling of the VMS system calls into something 9 for windows/NT, assuming VAX meant VMS although ultrix isa still possible.R   sol gongolaa   Stegner wrote: > J > Might anyone know of a utility (either free or fee) to convert/translateC > VAX Assembler (Macro?) to Windows/NT assembler?   I'm thinking ofr  > migrating some applications... > 	 > thanks,I > TJ   ------------------------------  # Date: Thu, 04 Jan 2001 22:49:46 GMT  From: Dirk Munk <munk@home.nl>/ Subject: Re: voor de belgische Alpha gebruikerst' Message-ID: <3A54FE06.B3C1E286@home.nl>   " Shane.F.Smith@Healthnet.com wrote: > M > Oh great. Now it's only a matter of time before someone posts in Klingon...e >  > Shanei >     Heh heh heh, it aint that bad...  H Please remember that at the time the founding fathers of the U.S. had toD choose a national language fot their new nation, Dutch missed out by only 1 vote ....D Maybe if they had high courts or recounts at that time, things might have been different now.   ------------------------------  % Date: Thu, 04 Jan 2001 15:47:46 -0800 ! From: Shane.F.Smith@Healthnet.com / Subject: Re: voor de belgische Alpha gebruikers D Message-ID: <OFF6EE47AF.3B5A889C-ON882569CA.0082ADC3@foundation.com>  < Just think how badly they'd have screwed up THOSE spellings!   Shanes          2 Dirk Munk <munk@home.nl> on 01/04/2001 02:49:46 PM   To:   Info-VAX@Mvb.Saic.Com  cc:n  0 Subject:  Re: voor de belgische Alpha gebruikers        " Shane.F.Smith@Healthnet.com wrote: >dB > Oh great. Now it's only a matter of time before someone posts in
 Klingon... >C > Shanee >p    Heh heh heh, it aint that bad...  H Please remember that at the time the founding fathers of the U.S. had toD choose a national language fot their new nation, Dutch missed out by only 1 vote ....D Maybe if they had high courts or recounts at that time, things might have been different now.   ------------------------------   End of INFO-VAX 2001.009 ************************