0 INFO-VAX	Sun, 14 Jan 2001	Volume 2001 : Issue 28      Contents:, Re: 7820 w/CI based disks and tapes for sale, Re: 7820 w/CI based disks and tapes for sale, Re: 7820 w/CI based disks and tapes for sale C and OpenVMS 7  Re: C and OpenVMS 7  Re: C and OpenVMS 7  Re: CHARON-VAX4 RE: Compaq: A simple, affordable clustering solution Re: Dead VAXstation 3100# Re: Ebay dead as a post - yet again * RE: Faster gzip, thank you Paul Repacholi!* Re: Faster gzip, thank you Paul Repacholi!C Re: Hobby VMS - was eBay extended downtime (was Re: eBay SPAMARAMA)  Re: Identify que entry # Re: Loads of Alphas (700+)...  Re: OpenVMS + Active Directory WANTED: VMS System manager5 Re: what is the latest version for netscape on VMS...  Re: Wizard Disappears!!!C [Change subject] percentage of world's processing on "mainframes" ? G Re: [Change subject] percentage of world's processing on "mainframes" ? G Re: [Change subject] percentage of world's processing on "mainframes" ?  [Q] Alpha 2100 console doc ?  Re: [Q] Alpha 2100 console doc ?  RE: [Q] Alpha 2100 console doc ?  F ----------------------------------------------------------------------  % Date: Sun, 14 Jan 2001 15:36:21 +0000  From: Roy Omond <Roy@Omond.net> 5 Subject: Re: 7820 w/CI based disks and tapes for sale ) Message-ID: <3A61C774.14717B7C@Omond.net>    Dave Pampreen wrote:   > All, > K > I have a 7820 with redundant MTI Stingray II disk controllers, with about N > 140 Gig in 5 shelves of disk space, 2 8mm tape drives and 2 DLT drives.  All. > of this is connected via a Star Coupler (CI) > L > I also have an extra 7610 CPU,  HSC70, SA900 with 26 RA72 drives, MicroVAX > 3600 > N > I just replace these with Alphas and am looking to get some money in return./ > I'm hoping someone can put these to good use!    [snip snip]   @ Please try to remember to post where the equipment is physically@ located !  I reckon the shipping costs alone would be 99% of the? total cost if you're any further away than the boundaries of my  local village.  	 Roy Omond  Blue Bubble Ltd.   ------------------------------  # Date: Sun, 14 Jan 2001 16:33:20 GMT - From: "Dave Pampreen" <davepampreen@home.com> 5 Subject: Re: 7820 w/CI based disks and tapes for sale > Message-ID: <kxk86.215569$hD4.54488351@news1.rdc1.mi.home.com>  C Oops, sorry....30 minutes North of Detroit Michigan in Auburn Hills    Dave  , "Roy Omond" <Roy@Omond.net> wrote in message# news:3A61C774.14717B7C@Omond.net...  > Dave Pampreen wrote: >  > > All, > > G > > I have a 7820 with redundant MTI Stingray II disk controllers, with  about K > > 140 Gig in 5 shelves of disk space, 2 8mm tape drives and 2 DLT drives.  All 0 > > of this is connected via a Star Coupler (CI) > > E > > I also have an extra 7610 CPU,  HSC70, SA900 with 26 RA72 drives,  MicroVAX > > 3600 > > H > > I just replace these with Alphas and am looking to get some money in return. 1 > > I'm hoping someone can put these to good use!  > 
 > [snip snip]  > B > Please try to remember to post where the equipment is physicallyB > located !  I reckon the shipping costs alone would be 99% of theA > total cost if you're any further away than the boundaries of my  > local village. >  > Roy Omond  > Blue Bubble Ltd. >    ------------------------------  % Date: Sun, 14 Jan 2001 17:08:32 +0000  From: Roy Omond <Roy@Omond.net> 5 Subject: Re: 7820 w/CI based disks and tapes for sale ) Message-ID: <3A61DD0F.23954836@Omond.net>    Dave Pampreen wrote:  E > Oops, sorry....30 minutes North of Detroit Michigan in Auburn Hills    *sheesh* ...  @ Is that 30 minutes walking or 30 minutes Spacestation flight ???                                                   P.s. ;-)   ------------------------------  # Date: Sun, 14 Jan 2001 09:01:19 GMT , From: "Tamahome" <xavpaul@chello.fr.NO.SPAM> Subject: C and OpenVMS 75 Message-ID: <zVd86.1123$bU7.4165655@nnrp2.proxad.net>    Hello!  I i've  a litte problem to open a file in C on OpenVMS (the same code works 8 well on DOS-based system). It's the right ng to post in?   Thanks in advance!   ------------------------------  # Date: Sun, 14 Jan 2001 14:38:13 GMT , From: "Tamahome" <xavpaul@chello.fr.NO.SPAM> Subject: Re: C and OpenVMS 75 Message-ID: <pRi86.1230$EO3.4536391@nnrp2.proxad.net>    So there is the code:    #define MEDIA "test.dat"  . void sauver (DISQUE *debut, char *nom_fichier) {      FILE *fichier;     DISQUE *pointeur;        pointeur=debut;   &     fichier=fopen (nom_fichier, "wt");       if (fichier!=NULL)     {   while (pointeur !=NULL)  {4      fprintf (fichier,"%s\n",pointeur->identifiant);       pointeur=pointeur->suivant;    }6  if (fclose (fichier)!=0) puts("Error while saving!");       }      else puts("Error");   }  ) ----------------------------------------- J This function works perfectly on MS DOS (with Borland Compiler). Moreover,K i've no warning (and so no error), when i compile and link...But when i use F this function, i've always have the "Error" message, as if the pointer# return NULL when doing the fopen...   2 Have i to add the ";1" or else in the #define ????  D if somebody could explain me why it don't work, i would be happy ^_^   Thanks!    ------------------------------    Date: 14 Jan 2001 11:38:40 -0500, From: koehler@eisner.decus.org (Bob Koehler) Subject: Re: C and OpenVMS 7+ Message-ID: <gFojXOK9qQHu@eisner.decus.org>   d In article <pRi86.1230$EO3.4536391@nnrp2.proxad.net>, "Tamahome" <xavpaul@chello.fr.NO.SPAM> writes: > So there is the code:  >  > #define MEDIA "test.dat" > 0 > void sauver (DISQUE *debut, char *nom_fichier) > {  >     FILE *fichier; >     DISQUE *pointeur;  >  >     pointeur=debut;  > ( >     fichier=fopen (nom_fichier, "wt");%                                     ^ E   I don't recognize this.  What mode is "t".  On VMS you don't really E   need "b" for binary files.  If this is for text files I don't think G   it's real, just leave out the "b".  (DOS needs "b" for binary files).    >  >     if (fichier!=NULL) >     {  >  while (pointeur !=NULL) >  {6 >      fprintf (fichier,"%s\n",pointeur->identifiant);" >      pointeur=pointeur->suivant; >  >  }8 >  if (fclose (fichier)!=0) puts("Error while saving!"); >  >     }  >     else puts("Error");   F    I would replace this with perror so the error details get included.1    Then maybe you will know why NULL ws returned.    >  } >   F What is the actual file name?  You may be trying to create a name that: an ODS-2 volume can't handle.  I also note you don't show    #include <stdio.h> I assume your actual code does.   F ----------------------------------------------------------------------? Bob Koehler                     | Computer Sciences Corporation = NASA GSFC Flight Software       | Federal Sector, Civil Group E                                 | please remove ".aspm" when replying    ------------------------------  % Date: Sun, 14 Jan 2001 16:22:52 +0100 " From: "Hans Vlems" <hvlems@iae.nl> Subject: Re: CHARON-VAX ( Message-ID: <93sg29$3n7$1@news.IAEhv.nl>  " Yes, on a RedHat Linux 6.2 system.2 The configuration file is pretty straight forward.5 Load a VMS distribution CD in the drive and >>>B DUA0  on a PC!: Runs well, but the evaluation version has its limitations.E Mainly that it does not support the (any) network interface of the PC  and has no X support. ? The speed is throttled, on a 350 MHz Pentium II the performance @ is about 2 VUPS (I wrote a program that makes a crude estimate).A Main bugs up to now: an image backup of a system disk to an empty  drive(file) is notK bootable, and (2) SMG is not well implemented or the VT100 emulation is way  off.  L Other than that, it's an amusing tool at home and a good idea if you want toK replace VAX hardware. BTW, Unisys does something like that for its A-series > mainframes. The low end systems run in software on top of WNT.  
 Hans Vlems  C IdrEASY heeft geschreven in bericht <93qs6b$393d$1@as121.tel.hr>... # >Was anybody try this VAX emulator?  >  >I can't boot it.  >  >    ------------------------------  % Date: Sun, 14 Jan 2001 07:11:48 -0600 + From: "Main, Kerry" <Kerry.Main@compaq.com> = Subject: RE: Compaq: A simple, affordable clustering solution N Message-ID: <910612C07BCAD1119AF40000F86AF0D805284C01@kaoexc3.kao.cpqcorp.net>   Bill,   G >>>> It's clearly FUD at least in the sense that a company can deploy a = 32-processor box and choose *not* to tie it into its existing E domain-structured NT company directory structure but just allow it to 8 communicate as an outsider and manage it separately. <<<  J You mean like a separate NT4 domain. Sure, and some other group can do the0 same thing ie setup their own active directory.   I What was W2K biggest advantage? Getting rid of all those separate domains  and trusts in NT4.  G Unfortunately, unless a company has a very centralized IT organization, J getting the security, UNIX, email admins and all the LAN admins from thoseJ separate existing NT4 domains to agree on a common strategy is not an easy task.   " You can call it FUD all you want.   K However, you clearly do not yet understand the internal politics of a large K company trying to standardize on a single directory on ANY platform ie. the H issues are not about technology and it is not a direct reflection on MS.   Regards,  
 Kerry Main Senior Consultant  Compaq Canada Inc. Professional Services  Voice: 613-592-4660  Fax  :  819-772-7036 Email: Kerry.Main@Compaq.com     -----Original Message-----, From: Bill Todd [mailto:billtodd@foo.mv.com] Sent: January 13, 2001 3:30 PM To: Info-VAX@Mvb.Saic.Com = Subject: Re: Compaq: A simple, affordable clustering solution       4 Main, Kerry <Kerry.Main@compaq.com> wrote in messageH news:910612C07BCAD1119AF40000F86AF0D805284C00@kaoexc3.kao.cpqcorp.net... > JF,  > / > Hey - what are you doing email on a Sat for ?  >  > :-)  > I > >>> But they consolidate of Compaq's premier product, that 32 processor > > wintel box made by someone else or with Proliant clusters.>> > G > So, do you think a Customer is going to risk their career (and server G > consolidation projects are career make/break projects) on a brand new E > platform that requires an active directory design to be implemented  company I > wide (which includes getting UNIX and security dept's agreement) before  > hand?   D This is yet one more assertion you keep making to the point of beingJ tiresome.  At least you don't capitalize it, as you're prone to with some.  B It's clearly FUD at least in the sense that a company can deploy a= 32-processor box and choose *not* to tie it into its existing E domain-structured NT company directory structure but just allow it to F communicate as an outsider and manage it separately.  And it would notF surprise me if it were possible to include it in an existing NT domainL structure as a non-directory-server node (i.e., like a Win2K workstation canK be) - at least I'm not ready to take your unsupported and distinctly biased I word that it isn't, given the unreliability of some of your past slams at  the competition.  L JF has adequately addressed the rest, so I won't.  If you and your ilk spentL anywhere nearly as much energy trying to change the way Compaq treats VMS asJ you do perpetually trying to convince us that better times are just around4 the corner, there might be more reason for optimism.   - bill   ------------------------------  % Date: Sun, 14 Jan 2001 16:25:39 +0100 " From: "Hans Vlems" <hvlems@iae.nl>! Subject: Re: Dead VAXstation 3100 ( Message-ID: <93sg7i$3rc$1@news.IAEhv.nl>   Where is Freiburg situated? 4 I live in the Netherlands, might pick up some parts.  
 Hans Vlems  . Christoph Gartmann heeft geschreven in bericht' <93p9g5$rpt$1@n.ruf.uni-freiburg.de>...  >Hello,  > G >our VAXstation 3100 just gave up (two weeks after the support contract  ended I >:-( ). It has a memory error on the 4 MB on-board memory. Before we dump  it, 2 >is there any interest in this thing or its parts? > 	 >Regards,  >   Christoph Gartmann > I >-- --------------------------------------------------------------------+ I >| Max-Planck-Institut fuer      Phone   : +49-761-5108-464   Fax: -452 | I >| Immunbiologie                                                        | I >| Postfach 1169                 Internet: gartmann@immunbio.mpg.de     | I >| D-79011  Freiburg, FRG                                               | I >+--------- http://www.immunbio.mpg.de/home/english/menue.html ---------+    ------------------------------  # Date: Sun, 14 Jan 2001 15:38:56 GMT 4 From: "Terry C. Shannon" <terryshannon@mediaone.net>, Subject: Re: Ebay dead as a post - yet again= Message-ID: <kKj86.49933$1M.10501260@typhoon.ne.mediaone.net>   B "David J. Dachtera" <djesys.nospam@earthlink.net> wrote in message' news:3A6124DB.17A1BD02@earthlink.net...  > "Terry C. Shannon" wrote:  <snip> > > > 6 > > > Agreed, isn't "flawed and squatulent" a bit OTT? > > K > > It all depends on whether it's YOUR dollars, francs, Euros, or drachmas  thatI > > are at risk. And correct me if I'm wrong, but isn't Micro$oft running  ads J > > featuring the BSOD... ads telling customers that they'd better upgrade from: > > WinNT to Win2K 'cuz it's 13 times more reliable?   ;-} >  > Winking Smiley indeed! > 4 > I'm sure everyone here knows what 13 * 0 equals...  * Ummm, eBay-speak for 99.99 percent uptime?   ------------------------------  % Date: Sun, 14 Jan 2001 07:24:36 -0600 + From: "Main, Kerry" <Kerry.Main@compaq.com> 3 Subject: RE: Faster gzip, thank you Paul Repacholi! N Message-ID: <910612C07BCAD1119AF40000F86AF0D805284C02@kaoexc3.kao.cpqcorp.net>   Ken,   minor nit..   D >>> If so,  dismount the disk, then remount it /NOHIGHWATER and test	 again.<<<   K If memory serves me correctly, you do not need to dismount any devices that I are already mounted and have highwater enabled .. following should work -  even if it is already set. $ sho dev $1$dga26:   $ Set dev $1$dga26: /nohighwater $ sho dev $1$dga26:    Regards,  
 Kerry Main Senior Consultant  Compaq Canada Inc. Professional Services  Voice: 613-592-4660  Fax  :  819-772-7036 Email: Kerry.Main@Compaq.com     -----Original Message-----F From: Fairfield@SLAC.Stanford.EDU [mailto:Fairfield@SLAC.Stanford.EDU] Sent: January 12, 2001 4:52 PM To: Info-VAX@Mvb.Saic.Com 3 Subject: Re: Faster gzip, thank you Paul Repacholi!     - In article <93le66$sam@gap.cco.caltech.edu>,  9     	mathog@seqaxp.bio.caltech.edu (David Mathog) writes:  [...] L >                                                    ... I also noticed thatK > if I set the initial file allocation size to be the full size of the file I > it slowed things down.  That counterintuitive result must occur because  the D > file system nulls out the disk blocks before releasing them to the > application.  ...   H         You don't have HIGHWATER enabled  on  the  test disk do you?  IfH     so,  dismount the disk, then remount it /NOHIGHWATER and test again.H     Could have a small impact...has a large impact when creating  large,     e.g., page files...            -Ken --  -  Kenneth H. Fairfield            |  Internet:  Fairfield@SLC.Slac.Stanford.Edu :  SLAC, 2575 Sand Hill Rd, MS 46  |  Voice:    650-926-2924:  Menlo Park, CA  94025           |  FAX:      650-926-3515   L ---------------------------------------------------------------------------- - B  These opinions are mine, not SLAC's, Stanford's, nor the DOE's...   ------------------------------  % Date: Sun, 14 Jan 2001 12:16:56 -0500 2 From: rdeininger@mindspring.com (Robert Deininger)3 Subject: Re: Faster gzip, thank you Paul Repacholi! L Message-ID: <rdeininger-1401011216560001@user-2iveapj.dialup.mindspring.com>  { In article <910612C07BCAD1119AF40000F86AF0D805284C02@kaoexc3.kao.cpqcorp.net>, "Main, Kerry" <Kerry.Main@compaq.com> wrote:    > Ken, > 
 > minor nit..  > F > >>> If so,  dismount the disk, then remount it /NOHIGHWATER and test > again.<<<  > M > If memory serves me correctly, you do not need to dismount any devices that K > are already mounted and have highwater enabled .. following should work -  > even if it is already set. > $ sho dev $1$dga26: " > $ Set dev $1$dga26: /nohighwater > $ sho dev $1$dga26:     F Close, but not quite.  You need SET VOLUME/NOHIGHWATER, not SET DEVICE   --   Robert Deininger rdeininger@mindspring.com    ------------------------------  % Date: Sun, 14 Jan 2001 12:38:53 +0100e  From: Paul Sture <paul@sture.ch>L Subject: Re: Hobby VMS - was eBay extended downtime (was Re: eBay SPAMARAMA)+ Message-ID: <VA.0000022f.636a244e@sture.ch>H  P In article <6C5DB48F372703D6.05BA6C5FEB58DD68.0C6296497B290CBA@lp.airnews.net>,  Wayne Holland wrote:- > From: "Wayne Holland" <wholland@tscnet.com>u > Newsgroups: comp.os.vmsrR > Subject: Re: Hobby VMS - was Re: eBay extended downtime (was Re: eBay SPAMARAMA)' > Date: Sat, 13 Jan 2001 00:06:27 -0800y >  > A > "John E. Malmberg" <malmberg@eisner.decus.org> wrote in message ' > news:$QcPTa3sJTot@eisner.decus.org...t > > In articleE > <51DF758E3CD5F4FC.1D669356113F9097.419EFAB7915416CC@lp.airnews.net> 6 > >  "Wayne Holland" <wholland@tscnet.company> writes: > > >p@ > > > I agree.  I used to manage a VMS system for the Navy Dept.? > > > Being retired and looking around, I couldn't find any VMSl> > > > for the i386.  However I did find Solaris 8 for the i386A > > > for $75.  I'm not too happy about fixed disk slices and the-B > > > way things are done but it is interesting.  You get a free C> > > > and C++ compiler, g77 fortran compiler, java, perl, etc.A > > > Only bad thing is I miss the DEC languages... they had moreo= > > > functionality and were far more easier to use.  The DEC , > > > compilers produced what you asked for.@ > > >      I am still looking around.  Would be nice if VMS were? > > > available for the price of the CDs on the intel platform.o > > M > > OpenVMS is only available on the intel plaform in emulation, and there isi > > a hobbyist version of that.a > >eL > > As far as for your hobby use, the license is free, including license for > thepK > > DEC compilers that you like.  Media, if you can not borrow some is alsoe1 > > available for around the $40.00 U.S.D. range.h > >pH > > I think that all of the links for finding this information is in theF > > OpenVMS FAQ that can be found from a link on the OpenVMS home page > > " > > http://www.openvms.compaq.com/ > > L > > Used equipment that can run OpenVMS (VAX and ALPHA) can be found on-lineL > > at low cost, or sometimes free for being in the right place at the rightK > > time.  I would tend to recommend finding a used ALPHA with at least 64M N > > of memory and a SCSI CD-ROM drive that is listed in the OpenVMS S.P.D. forM > > beginners.  More memory is always better, and you will want at least 1 gb ) > > for your system disk, more is better.nF > Thank you!  Can you give me a web site that has the intel emulation? >v   http://www.charon-vax.com/ ___ 
 Paul Sture Switzerland    ------------------------------  # Date: Sun, 14 Jan 2001 08:17:18 GMTn1 From: CSABA  HARANGOZO   <csabah@zipworld.com.au> ! Subject: Re: Identify que entry #u7 Message-ID: <igd86.381$h4.42712@nostril.pacific.net.au>o   bawilhelm@my-deja.com wrote:E > I just issued the command DEL/ENTRY=20 instead of DEL/ENTRY=28.  IstH > there any way I can determine what Entry 20 was.  I did not receive an% > error message saying "no such job".    > We are running VMS 7.1  ( 	Not likely, as others wrote it already.B 	However, if you are running a daily housekeeping job, it would be& 	good idea to put into it a line like:B 	$SHOW QUEUE/ALL/FULL/OUTPUT=<file>  *      ( /BATCH if you wish )  = 	This way you have some record as what jobs have been queued.- 	HTH.6 				Cheers,		Csaba  I    ----------------------------------------------------------------------tE    * Csaba I. Harangozo     |    'To err is human', said the hedgehoggE    * csabah@zipworld.com.au |           as he dismounted a wirebrush. I    ----------------------------------------------------------------------1;    EARTH::AUSTRALIA:[SYDNEY]HARANGOZO.CSABA;1, delete? [N]:.   ------------------------------  % Date: Sun, 14 Jan 2001 15:21:34 +0000p From: Roy Omond <Roy@Omond.net> & Subject: Re: Loads of Alphas (700+)...) Message-ID: <3A61C3FD.4FE4C8FB@Omond.net>a   Nicholas Mark de Smith wrote:   I > Not that I use them much anymore, but in this week trade rags in the UK,H > there is an article about the Sanger Centre (public genome sequencing)" > in Cambridge (the original one). >D) > Aparently, they have over 700 Alphas...   D yep, been there, seen and touched the *walls* of DS10L's (320 in one wall).A [Shameful plug:]  The Sanger Centre ran out of physical space, soeA the new wall was located in the European Bioinformatics Institute"< (EBI) on the same campus (actually Hinxton, Cambs., one mile; up the road from me).  Turns out that switching the wall on : caused the plant power supply to blow, which unfortunately9 caused, ahem, a bit of a problem for the EBI systems (theE: two remaining VMS machines were unaffected :-).  The walls? (interesting new measure of quantity :-) are to be used as partM9 of the EnsEMBL project (see http://www.ensembl.org) which @ is, ahem, a rather interesting project/collaboration between the Sanger Centre and the EBI.  < P.s. I was one of the original system managers at the EBI at its birth in 1994.  	 Roy Omond  Blue Bubble Ltd.   ------------------------------  % Date: Sun, 14 Jan 2001 14:10:40 +0100-( From: Bernd Eckstein <B.Eckstein@cli.de>' Subject: Re: OpenVMS + Active Directoryc& Message-ID: <3A61A550.53ADFFC8@cli.de>  * fabio_compaq@ep-bc.petrobras.com.br wrote: > D > Do you know if OpenVMS will support Microsoft Active Directory ??? > : Active Direcory is a "near"-X.500 Directory Service deeply9 integrated into Win2000. Its Interface is LDAP so with anU; OpenVMS-LADP-Client there should be no Problem in accessing  AD.Q   -- n( Mit freundlichen Gruessen / Best regardsC B.Eckstein, CLI GmbH - mailto:B.Eckstein@cli.de - http://www.cli.de C Matthiashofstr. 28, D-52064 Aachen - Fon: +49 241 47051-0, Fax: -89n   ------------------------------  # Date: Sun, 14 Jan 2001 08:53:12 GMT', From: Didier Morandi <Didier.Morandi@gmx.fr># Subject: WANTED: VMS System manager & Message-ID: <3A6168F4.DDECE6E2@gmx.fr>  G A Swiss company is (desperatly) looking for a VMS system manager. He or-C she should speak German and/or English. Location: Bern Switzerland.f Availability: asap.u   Please reply via personal mail.  Thanks,    D.   -- E Didier Morandi+ IMS AG                  <mailto:dmo@ims.ch>d/ Worblentalstr. 30       Tel: +41 (31) 925 33 56 / 3063 Ittigen            Fax: +41 (31) 922 22 22 / -----------------------------------------------n/ Besuchen Sie uns im Internet: http://www.ims.cho   ------------------------------  # Date: Sun, 14 Jan 2001 15:59:32 GMT ' From: Colin Blake <colin@theblakes.com>-> Subject: Re: what is the latest version for netscape on VMS...- Message-ID: <3A61CC02.FB5976AB@theblakes.com>l   Phillip Helbig wrote:e  D > ...and where can it be downloaded?  If it is still 3.03, when will > something newer come along?-  > You can download the latest Mozilla release, M0.7, from eitherF http://www.mozilla.org or http://www.openvms.compaq.com (remember thatG Netscape6 is based on M0.6). But a word of warning, there's no Java and  no https support yet.i   ------------------------------  % Date: Sun, 14 Jan 2001 13:52:26 +0100B( From: Bernd Eckstein <B.Eckstein@cli.de>! Subject: Re: Wizard Disappears!!! & Message-ID: <3A61A10A.F4063E83@cli.de>   Rob Young wrote: > 1 > http://www.openvms.compaq.com/wizard/index.htmll > J >         Yes.. it is true.  The Wizard is gone and has been replaced with? >         what looks like a carnival prize.  A stuffed mastedonkD >         wearing a white cap.  I can't read the writing... I wonder >         what it all means? > 5 Nope, the wizard just morphed, he's a real wizard ;-)'  B btw: Give him a new chair, that paperbox is no good for his bones.       -- TB  "It's good to know who hates you and it's good to be hated by theB  right people"                                    Jonny Cash, 1989  ( Mit freundlichen Gruessen / Best regardsC B.Eckstein, CLI GmbH - mailto:B.Eckstein@cli.de - http://www.cli.decC Matthiashofstr. 28, D-52064 Aachen - Fon: +49 241 47051-0, Fax: -89,   ------------------------------  % Date: Sun, 14 Jan 2001 09:45:16 +0000  From: Roy Omond <Roy@Omond.net>fL Subject: [Change subject] percentage of world's processing on "mainframes" ?) Message-ID: <3A61752B.E2E1839E@Omond.net>    "Main, Kerry" wrote:   > JF,  > ' > >>> So Unix and NT rule the world.<<<o >s > ROTFL. >oK > Please .. Something like over half the worlds processing is still done onyJ > mainframe or mainframe compatible computers. According to one person whoL > attended last years Computer Associates International conference, they hadL > something like 15-20,000 attendees. Big MS conference in the best of times( > has in the order of 5-7,500 attendees.  O Hmm... just a thought.  Is this really still true (that over 50% of the world's   + processing is still done on "mainframes") ?   M Just take as an example the SETI project.  I just checked a couple of minutes G ago, and in the last 24 hours, more than 1117 CPU *years* (611,849 SETIaC work units) were performed.  Admittedly on a multitude of differents@ platforms (including 15 from me on VMS :-).  Anyone any idea how0 much of the world's processing this represents ?  	 Roy Omondn Blue Bubble Ltd.  A P.s. VMS systems have performed 940,640 work units so far.  C'mon $ folks, let's get that to a million !   ------------------------------    Date: 14 Jan 2001 08:37:09 -0500/ From: jordan@lisa.gemair.com (Jordan Henderson)eP Subject: Re: [Change subject] percentage of world's processing on "mainframes" ?* Message-ID: <93sa25$jdm$1@lisa.gemair.com>  K In article <3A61752B.E2E1839E@Omond.net>, Roy Omond  <Roy@Omond.net> wrote:y >"Main, Kerry" wrote:  >m >> JF, >>( >> >>> So Unix and NT rule the world.<<< >>	 >> ROTFL.c >>L >> Please .. Something like over half the worlds processing is still done onK >> mainframe or mainframe compatible computers. According to one person whosM >> attended last years Computer Associates International conference, they had M >> something like 15-20,000 attendees. Big MS conference in the best of timest) >> has in the order of 5-7,500 attendees.) > P >Hmm... just a thought.  Is this really still true (that over 50% of the world's > , >processing is still done on "mainframes") ? > N >Just take as an example the SETI project.  I just checked a couple of minutesH >ago, and in the last 24 hours, more than 1117 CPU *years* (611,849 SETID >work units) were performed.  Admittedly on a multitude of differentA >platforms (including 15 from me on VMS :-).  Anyone any idea how 1 >much of the world's processing this represents ?e >T  F The SETI project would be a terrible indicator of the total processingG among the world for generalized processing for several reasons.  First,pE is there even a SETI client available for mainframes?  If there is, IcD bet it's not well known.  Secondly, MOST machines in the project areA home or academic machines over which people have a great deal of tD discretion on what can be run there.  Most mainframe shops would not: _allow_ such a thing to be run, even if it were available.  ? In any case, I think you may be thinking in terms of available yA processing power and not actual processing performed.  I'm alwaystB amazed at the fact that I now carry around some 30x more CPU power@ than was available at my University's computing center 20 years B ago, but I'm actually only doing a tiny fraction of the processing that was performed there.>  
 >Roy Omond >Blue Bubble Ltd.0 > B >P.s. VMS systems have performed 940,640 work units so far.  C'mon% >folks, let's get that to a million !p >    -Jordan Hendersons jordan@greenapple.comt   ------------------------------  % Date: Sun, 14 Jan 2001 16:10:30 +0000  From: Roy Omond <Roy@Omond.net>0P Subject: Re: [Change subject] percentage of world's processing on "mainframes" ?) Message-ID: <3A61CF76.C6101CD4@Omond.net>r   Jordan Henderson wrote:   M > In article <3A61752B.E2E1839E@Omond.net>, Roy Omond  <Roy@Omond.net> wrote:  > >-R > >Hmm... just a thought.  Is this really still true (that over 50% of the world's. > >processing is still done on "mainframes") ? > >aP > >Just take as an example the SETI project.  I just checked a couple of minutesJ > >ago, and in the last 24 hours, more than 1117 CPU *years* (611,849 SETIF > >work units) were performed.  Admittedly on a multitude of differentC > >platforms (including 15 from me on VMS :-).  Anyone any idea howt3 > >much of the world's processing this represents ?a > >u >1H > The SETI project would be a terrible indicator of the total processingI > among the world for generalized processing for several reasons.  First,3G > is there even a SETI client available for mainframes?  If there is, IpF > bet it's not well known.  Secondly, MOST machines in the project areB > home or academic machines over which people have a great deal ofF > discretion on what can be run there.  Most mainframe shops would not< > _allow_ such a thing to be run, even if it were available.  F ????  Why on earth would it be a terrible indicator ?  It's not at all> relevant whether it exists or not for mainframes (whatever the@ definition of mainframe).  The question is quite simple:  is the> processing being done for SETI a significant percentage of the> total processing being done in the world (and in particular is@ it high enough such that the old chestnut "more than half of the9 world's processing is still being performed by mainframesM8 (occasionally: "by Cobol applications")" *really* true ?  @ > In any case, I think you may be thinking in terms of availableC > processing power and not actual processing performed.  I'm alwaysuD > amazed at the fact that I now carry around some 30x more CPU powerA > than was available at my University's computing center 20 yearstD > ago, but I'm actually only doing a tiny fraction of the processing > that was performed there.e  E I'm not at all thinking in terms of available processing power; quitee9 the contrary, only the actual processing being performed.   	 Roy Omond  Blue Bubble Ltd.   ------------------------------  # Date: Sun, 14 Jan 2001 08:46:47 GMT@, From: Didier Morandi <Didier.Morandi@gmx.fr>% Subject: [Q] Alpha 2100 console doc ?:& Message-ID: <3A616772.8CF8A97B@gmx.fr>   Bonjour,  D Where can I find the Alphaserver 2100 console doc, please? I need toB switch the EWA interface from AUI to twisted and I didn't find theF command from the help text. I know I can do that with LANCP but I wish to do it "hardcoded".   O Please reply also via mail, I don't have a news server at the customer's place.l   Thanks,z D. -- h+ IMS AG                  <mailto:dmo@ims.ch>d/ Worblentalstr. 30       Tel: +41 (31) 925 33 56a/ 3063 Ittigen (CH)       Fax: +41 (31) 922 22 22k/ -----------------------------------------------./ Besuchen Sie uns im Internet: http://www.ims.chn   ------------------------------  % Date: Sun, 14 Jan 2001 12:11:30 -0500N2 From: rdeininger@mindspring.com (Robert Deininger)) Subject: Re: [Q] Alpha 2100 console doc ?aL Message-ID: <rdeininger-1401011211300001@user-2iveapj.dialup.mindspring.com>  T In article <3A616772.8CF8A97B@gmx.fr>, Didier Morandi <Didier.Morandi@gmx.fr> wrote:  
 > Bonjour, > F > Where can I find the Alphaserver 2100 console doc, please? I need toD > switch the EWA interface from AUI to twisted and I didn't find theH > command from the help text. I know I can do that with LANCP but I wish > to do it "hardcoded".- >   , On many alpha consoles, the command would be >>> set ewa0_mode twisted-pair4 or something like that.  I may be remembering wrong.   Tryo >>> set ewa0_mode puppygY or some other nonsense, and the console will likely respond with a list of valid choices.2   -- 1 Robert Deininger rdeininger@mindspring.comp   ------------------------------  % Date: Sun, 14 Jan 2001 11:39:33 -0600 + From: "Main, Kerry" <Kerry.Main@compaq.com>t) Subject: RE: [Q] Alpha 2100 console doc ?iN Message-ID: <910612C07BCAD1119AF40000F86AF0D805284C07@kaoexc3.kao.cpqcorp.net>   Didier,   > >>> I need to switch the EWA interface from AUI to twisted >>>    , >>> set ewa0_mode twisted (assuming 10BASET)I >>> set ewa0_mode FASTFD (if DE500/600 type device and you want 100BASET,  full duplex)2 >>> show ewa0_mode (to ensure it changed properly)  I As always, check with the network folks to determine if the console setup-I for the network adapter is going to match what the network switches portsu are set to.e   Regards,  
 Kerry Main Senior Consultantd Compaq Canada Inc. Professional Servicesg Voice: 613-592-46606 Fax  :  819-772-7036 Email: Kerry.Main@Compaq.com     -----Original Message-----3 From: Didier Morandi [mailto:Didier.Morandi@gmx.fr]e Sent: January 14, 2001 3:47 AM To: Info-VAX@Mvb.Saic.Comr% Subject: [Q] Alpha 2100 console doc ?a     Bonjour,  D Where can I find the Alphaserver 2100 console doc, please? I need toB switch the EWA interface from AUI to twisted and I didn't find theF command from the help text. I know I can do that with LANCP but I wish to do it "hardcoded".6  H Please reply also via mail, I don't have a news server at the customer's place.   Thanks,e D. -- p+ IMS AG                  <mailto:dmo@ims.ch>e/ Worblentalstr. 30       Tel: +41 (31) 925 33 56k/ 3063 Ittigen (CH)       Fax: +41 (31) 922 22 22h/ -----------------------------------------------6/ Besuchen Sie uns im Internet: http://www.ims.chi   ------------------------------   End of INFO-VAX 2001.028 ************************