0 INFO-VAX	Mon, 22 Jan 2001	Volume 2001 : Issue 43      Contents:1 Another CNET Story On IBM's Software Rejuvenation  Compaq Cobol Tutorial Books 4 Re: Compaq: A simple, affordable clustering solution4 Re: Compaq: A simple, affordable clustering solution4 Re: Compaq: A simple, affordable clustering solution DCPS KIT for VAX Re: DCPS KIT for VAX" Re: DFWCUG Scanning Project update! Re: digital PrintServer 17 600 ps ! Re: digital PrintServer 17 600 ps ! Re: digital PrintServer 17 600 ps  Re: EUREX and CBOT New System 0 Has anyone sucessfully ported SMG from VMS to NT4 Re: Has anyone sucessfully ported SMG from VMS to NT$ Re: Linux worm and RedHat 7.0 broken$ Re: Linux worm and RedHat 7.0 broken Re: LN06 replacement RE: LN06 replacement, Re: Mounting new disks to Alpha DS10 problem! Re: New OpenVMS Times now on line ! Re: New OpenVMS Times now on line ! Re: New OpenVMS Times now on line ! Re: New OpenVMS Times now on line ! Re: New OpenVMS Times now on line ! Re: New OpenVMS Times now on line ! Re: New OpenVMS Times now on line  Re: Oldtimer forgot! Re: Oldtimer forgot!- Re: OpenVMS : solid but low profile - by CNET - Re: OpenVMS : solid but low profile - by CNET + Problem using RZ40-AS on HSJ40 when striped 9 Re: To Hoff Hoffman: Any news about the VMS DHCP client ?  Re: Vax 7830 or 7730  F ----------------------------------------------------------------------   Date: 22 Jan 2001 06:32:10 GMT) From: leslie@clio.rice.edu (Jerry Leslie) : Subject: Another CNET Story On IBM's Software Rejuvenation' Message-ID: <94gk5a$t8j$2@joe.rice.edu>   A Here's another story about IBM's software rejuvenation, a feature  not needed on VMS:  J   http://news.cnet.com/news/0-1003-200-4550757.html?tag=st.ne.1002.thed.niI   CNET.com - News - Enterprise Computing - IBM software to prevent server 
   failures  G   "Aging also occurs in personal computers, Bradicich said, although it I    may be less noticeable because a PC is shut down and restarted more    D    often, resetting the software. Aging typically doesn't affect bigI    mainframe computers because the programming is carefully "scrubbed" of H    errors, and such systems integrate hardware and software more closely-    than servers or PCs do, Bradicich said.        .    .    .I    The rejuvenation feature will be part of a software package called IBM H    Director, which comes with xSeries servers. The xSeries runs on IntelH    processors and Microsoft's Windows NT operating system. The tool alsoB    will work soon on servers running the Linux operating system,      Bradicich said."   : So VMS code without buffer overflows has been "scrubbed" ?  : Products like this are institutionalizing bad programming.  4 --Jerry Leslie     (my opinions are strictly my own)   ------------------------------  % Date: Mon, 22 Jan 2001 00:35:32 -0200 1 From: "Valdemir J. Santos" <valdemir-@uol.com.br> $ Subject: Compaq Cobol Tutorial Books5 Message-ID: <002f01c0841c$0099bd00$8534bfc8@valdemir>   , This is a multi-part message in MIME format.  + ------=_NextPart_000_002C_01C0840B.3AAD0C60  Content-Type: text/plain;  	charset="iso-8859-1" + Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable   9 I=B4m needing Compaq Cobol Tutorial books, if you have=20 3 these books to send to me, I pay the mail costs.=20  Thank you in advance...   + ------=_NextPart_000_002C_01C0840B.3AAD0C60  Content-Type: text/html; 	charset="iso-8859-1" + Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable   > <!DOCTYPE HTML PUBLIC "-//W3C//DTD HTML 4.0 Transitional//EN"> <HTML><HEAD>3 <META content=3D"text/html; charset=3Diso-8859-1" =  http-equiv=3DContent-Type>9 <META content=3D"MSHTML 5.00.2614.3500" name=3DGENERATOR>  <STYLE></STYLE>  </HEAD>  <BODY bgColor=3D#ffffff>F <DIV><FONT face=3DArial size=3D2>I=B4m needing Compaq Cobol Tutorial = books, if you=20 have </FONT></DIV>H <DIV><FONT face=3DArial size=3D2>these books to send to me,&nbsp;I pay = the mail=20  costs. </FONT></DIV>/ <DIV><FONT face=3DArial size=3D2>Thank you in = % advance...</FONT></DIV></BODY></HTML>   - ------=_NextPart_000_002C_01C0840B.3AAD0C60--    ------------------------------    Date: 21 Jan 2001 15:00:50 -0500/ From: jordan@lisa.gemair.com (Jordan Henderson) = Subject: Re: Compaq: A simple, affordable clustering solution * Message-ID: <94ff5i$hen$1@lisa.gemair.com>  O In article <94fanr$od7$1@pyrite.mv.net>, Bill Todd <billtodd@foo.mv.com> wrote:  > ; >Jordan Henderson <jordan@lisa.gemair.com> wrote in message % >news:94eoeo$rgg$1@lisa.gemair.com...  >  >... > J >> It's clear to me that Andrew's involvement here is somewhat more active# >> than just information gathering.  >>J >> If you enjoy hearing what Andrew says so much about Compaq and OpenVMS,< >> you might invite him into some private email discussions. > L >Good point.  I sent him a question about a specific Sun feature once, afterJ >it came up here.  Never got a response.  His presence does seem to have aF >definite agenda beyond simple curiosity about a competitor.  The mainG >problem I have with those who denigrate him is that they often fail to L >separate the wheat from the chaff - and, unfortunately, a good deal of whatI >he has to say has substantive roots that should not be ignored by anyone 1 >interested in VMS competitiveness and viability.  >   E I can agree with that.  On two occasions that I can recall, I've even 1 piped up to agree with something Andrew has said.   G Much of the content of what Andrew has to say is interesting, the tone, & however, is something else entirely.    F One of the really big problems with OpenVMS that I see, day in and dayC out, is the brain drain, the downward spiral of the availability of D talented and capable OpenVMS-knowledgeable personnel.  The causes ofD this phenomenon are more complex and varied than might first appear.F There are some here that would have you believe that it's entirely theE fault of Digital/Compaq and their lack of attention to marketing and  E product placement of OpenVMS.  While this may be an important factor, - there is another more insidious problem here.   G Ever since I can recall, and certainly since the early 80's, there have G been those in the UNIX camp (and later to a certain extent, the Windows F camp) who have denigrated OpenVMS as a hopelessly backward dinosaur, aF Mainframe wannabee operating system that has no future beyond the nextG wave of innovation that surely is coming.  Those waves have washed over C the IT landscape time and time again, and I still see OpenVMS with  H capabilities and attributes still not available elsewhere.  However, theD detractors continute to snipe.  After many years of this, it takes aF definite toll on the professional who wants to have current skills andE be ready for that next wave that surely will, this time, wash OpenVMS  completely away.  I This is Andrew's real message.  He's been alluding to it for years, that  L OpenVMS is in an irrevsible downward spiral and, by implication, that smart K professionals had better gain some UNIX skills now, before the tide washes  D their career as well.  This war for the hearts and minds of OpenVMS F professionals is faught in public forums, not with Compaq marketing.    A This is why I wrangle endlessly here.  I'm sorry if it's seen as  @ distracting noise, but I really feel it's important.  I try, and@ perhaps don't always succeed, in keeping a more civil tone with H other Compaq/OpenVMS detractors whom with I might occasionally engage in debate here.  J I have sometimes stated that I feel that he's a stealth marketing resourceH for Sun in this regard.  When I'm feeling more paranoid, I do posit thatK Sun, being the marketing and Internet savvy company that they appear to be, I is planting these messages here on purpose.  If OpenVMS represents $3B in G yearly sales, then just a tiny fraction of that pie, drained off in the D direction of the current market darling, Sun,  would easily justify # such activity to a smart executive.   I I don't know if this is just paranoia or if there's a kernel of truth in  H there somewhere or not.  But, I do feel that Andrew has this deleteriousF effect on professionals here that should be countered whether there is a charter from Sun or not.   >- bill  >  >> >> -Jordan Henderson >> jordan@greenapple.com >  >    -Jordan Henderson  jordan@greenapple.com    ------------------------------  % Date: Sun, 21 Jan 2001 15:32:29 -0500 - From: JF Mezei <jfmezei.spamnot@videotron.ca> = Subject: Re: Compaq: A simple, affordable clustering solution , Message-ID: <3A6B4754.EE78D7F0@videotron.ca>   Jordan Henderson wrote: L > I have sometimes stated that I feel that he's a stealth marketing resourceJ > for Sun in this regard.  When I'm feeling more paranoid, I do posit thatM > Sun, being the marketing and Internet savvy company that they appear to be, K > is planting these messages here on purpose.  If OpenVMS represents $3B in I > yearly sales, then just a tiny fraction of that pie, drained off in the E > direction of the current market darling, Sun,  would easily justify % > such activity to a smart executive.     H And if VMS represents a $3B in yearly sales, why is it that Compaq isn'tH taking more active steps to correct the problem and make VMS look like aP viable alternatibe that Compaq wants to grow instead of limit to a small niche ?  N Maybe you are right in saying that part of Mr harrisson's jon is to demoraliseH us. But I have news for you, reading Compaq's own  Inform is *MUCH* moreM demoralising than reading Mr Harrisson's posts. I know Mr harrisson wants VMS M to decline. But I don't understand why Compaq is so intent on downplaying VMS = in its publications and completely hiding it from marketing.      M Contrary to Tandem, VMS is very sick due to a murderer having almost suceeded J in killing it. It needs strong medecine to recover. And So far, Compaq mayN have removed the poisonous IV that was being fed before, but they haven't done enough to heal the wounds.   ------------------------------  % Date: Sun, 21 Jan 2001 23:47:47 +0000 ) From: Christof Brass <brass@infopuls.com> = Subject: Re: Compaq: A simple, affordable clustering solution , Message-ID: <3A6B7523.3F27AF87@infopuls.com>   JF Mezei wrote:  >  > Jordan Henderson wrote: I > > I see a lot of Compaq employees here and I expect that there are some M > > reading you don't even know about.  Who's to say that they aren't feeding J > > some of this information back to Compaq Management?  Who's to say that* > > Compaq Management aren't reading also? > J > Oh, they can read all they want, but if they are reading and not talkingN > actions, it is worse than if they are not reading because it truly indicatesK > that they are fully aware of the issues but Compaq does not wish to solve  > VMS's problems.  > J > is VMS neglected because Compaq is out of touch with reality/customers ? > OrM > is VMS neglected because Compaq does not wish to enhance VMS's visibility ?  > N > > Of course, what Andrew does here is not so much information gathering, butN > If Compaq were doing its job of promoting and tryng to push ts products suchK > as VMS, we wouldn't be here discussing this, we'd be proud VMS geeks with M > companies sending us fruit baskets to lure us to become their employees. Do K > you hear NT geeks worrying that Microsoft might drop NT ? Do you hear Sun 5 > geeks discuss Sun's handling/marketing of Solaris ?   N > If Compaq were doing its job of promoting and tryng to push ts products suchK > as VMS, we wouldn't be here discussing this, we'd be proud VMS geeks with M > companies sending us fruit baskets to lure us to become their employees. Do K > you hear NT geeks worrying that Microsoft might drop NT ? Do you hear Sun 5 > geeks discuss Sun's handling/marketing of Solaris ?   ; These are not comparable cases. M$ has only one line of OSs @ which in fact is not true but they try to let appear it that way> even WindowsCE by using one word constantly within the name of8 each branch. Let's wait and see what will happen if they> introduce whistler (is it whistling in the forest?). Will they= discontinue supporting the other versions? Will they maintain = their APIs? I expect that they will change the API completely = and as they did with the W2k-problem-OS they will also change @ the adminstration structure so that sysadmins have to learn more9 and new things, have to re-certificate and visit a lot of 9 courses. I read that migration from WNT to W2k-problem is  painful.  = SUN will abandon Solaris rather sooner than later. Maybe that ? making Solaris open source can make Solaris stay. They recently @ published the sources and if the open source people have checked? them and proven that they are useful there might be a chance to  survive.  = But VMS is completely different in that it is not UNIX, thank > you, universe. So it is no alternative for Linux people. It is8 completely different from Windoze with respect of market@ approach and technical history. In that respect it is similar to; UNIX. Started with much powerful machines than PCs. I'm not > going to write a lengthy paper about the implications. To make	 it short:   < A rather big part of the market is viewed as a fight between@ UNIX and Windoze which implies that there is no point in wasting: money for VMS marketing. VMS is simply not en vogue at the moment.   < Windoze on the desktop where UNIX is not as strong as in the7 server and workstation market is completely differently = advertised if at all. It came from the home users which asked @ why they couldn't have this tiny nice OS at work. This put a lot> of presure on the big machines which has one justified reason:> the programmers of these powerful machines had forgotten their= users, neglected the advance in UIs and kept their users like < slaves by beeing not responsive to their wishes. This is all well known history.   @ My conclusion is that the main problem is neither Compaq nor VMS> it's the market. To change the market takes a lot of money and@ time and will probably surpass the power of each single company.? That SUN changed to a certain degree the rules of the game with : Java was not only result of their own effort. It was to an= important part luck. And if they had introduced a much better ? technique which was around for at least five years they weren't   so vulnerable by .NET and M$-IL.  > So while I'm not blaming Compaq that much for what they did or@ didn't because the major mistakes have been done by DEC long ago@ I only complain that the Compaq web site doesn't present VMS and> Alpha properly. This is not easy to understand because this is9 almost for free and doesn't harm the UNIX and PC business ; because people looking for the mainstream will more or less ; ignore VMS and Alpha related topics. Only really interested > people will take notice of these alternatives. But to let that2 happen they should at least be presented properly.   ------------------------------  % Date: Sun, 21 Jan 2001 14:25:12 -0600 0 From: arturo saavedra <arturo.saavedra@wcom.com> Subject: DCPS KIT for VAX C Message-ID: <MOEAJKGGEIMGCCPEPJBHMEBKDDAA.arturo.saavedra@wcom.com>   I Does anybody know where I can download or find the DCPS kit for a VAX4000 # VLC running VMS 7.1, UCX 4.2 eco 2?    Thanks..   Art    ------------------------------  % Date: Sun, 21 Jan 2001 20:27:34 -0600 7 From: "David J. Dachtera" <djesys.nospam@earthlink.net>  Subject: Re: DCPS KIT for VAX - Message-ID: <3A6B9A96.232BD851@earthlink.net>    arturo saavedra wrote: > K > Does anybody know where I can download or find the DCPS kit for a VAX4000 % > VLC running VMS 7.1, UCX 4.2 eco 2?   ( Try the latest Software Product Library.   --   David J. Dachtera  dba DJE Systems  http://www.djesys.com/  : Unofficial Affordable OpenVMS Home Page and Message Board: http://www.djesys.com/vms/soho/   F This *IS* an OpenVMS-related newsgroup. So, a certain bias in postings is to be expected.  @ Feel free to exercise your rights of free speech and expression.  F However, attacks against individual posters, or groups of posters, are strongly discouraged.    ------------------------------  % Date: Sun, 21 Jan 2001 16:25:02 -0500 , From: Howard S Shubs <hshubs@mindspring.com>+ Subject: Re: DFWCUG Scanning Project update > Message-ID: <hshubs-BD6CFE.16250221012001@news.mindspring.com>  1 In article <3A6AA4D9.2A89B7C2@worldnet.att.net>, C" vaxhackery@worldnet.att.net wrote:  @ >At this very early time, we have several programmers' referenceA >cards and pocket maintenance cards online in high-resolution PDFoB >format, as well as some good images of the front covers of a very >few of the various handbooks. e  ? Oh hell.  Wish y'all'd told me this earlier.  I just donated a  I VAX-11/780 Microprogramming manual to the Computer History Museam a week n
 or so ago.   --  G "...run in circles, scream and shout!"    I hope you have good backups.S   ------------------------------  % Date: Sun, 21 Jan 2001 20:25:58 -0600m7 From: "David J. Dachtera" <djesys.nospam@earthlink.net>k* Subject: Re: digital PrintServer 17 600 ps- Message-ID: <3A6B9A36.3F599D4E@earthlink.net>m   k9020@my-deja.com wrote: > H > Could someone provide guidance on reconfiguring a digital printer fromE > a decnet protocol to tcp/ip.  I have been unable to order docs fromnF > Compaq on this model.  I have been to Compaq site and download theirF > unsupported software for Windows and Unix.  Their online docs do notI > provide info on model panel.  I am currently setting this printer up onbH > my home network (Alpha 300 xl running Linux, Powerpc running Macos 8 ,G > dual boot W98/Linux box).  I have tried using bootp , and the Windows-B > print manager with no success. I checked my wire and noticed the, > printer is broadcasting a DECnet protocol.  ' Well, let's start with usual questions:n   Make/model of printer?   Network topology?5  % ...any other info. you can volunteer?s   -- o David J. Dachterae dba DJE Systemst http://www.djesys.com/  : Unofficial Affordable OpenVMS Home Page and Message Board: http://www.djesys.com/vms/soho/w  F This *IS* an OpenVMS-related newsgroup. So, a certain bias in postings is to be expected.  @ Feel free to exercise your rights of free speech and expression.  F However, attacks against individual posters, or groups of posters, are strongly discouraged.g   ------------------------------  % Date: Sun, 21 Jan 2001 22:10:42 -0500m* From: Eric Ebinger <eebinger@telocity.com>* Subject: Re: digital PrintServer 17 600 ps@ Message-ID: <004701c08420$e8749bf0$0200a8c0@pc164sx.teamrdb.com>   -----Original Message-----5 From: David J. Dachtera <djesys.nospam@earthlink.net>l( >Well, let's start with usual questions: >e >Make/model of printer?n >n& Uh, isn't the subject specific enough?  , You might try the documentation available at> http://www5.compaq.com/products/printers/support/prt_docs.html   Eric Ebinger   ------------------------------  % Date: Sun, 21 Jan 2001 21:46:57 -0600s7 From: "David J. Dachtera" <djesys.nospam@earthlink.net>e* Subject: Re: digital PrintServer 17 600 ps- Message-ID: <3A6BAD31.95270ECC@earthlink.net>    Eric Ebinger wrote:3 >  > -----Original Message-----7 > From: David J. Dachtera <djesys.nospam@earthlink.net>l* > >Well, let's start with usual questions: > >c > >Make/model of printer?u > >a( > Uh, isn't the subject specific enough?  ? Does it have it's own internal network card, or is it external?s   Makes a difference...-   -- r David J. Dachterar dba DJE Systems  http://www.djesys.com/  : Unofficial Affordable OpenVMS Home Page and Message Board: http://www.djesys.com/vms/soho/n  F This *IS* an OpenVMS-related newsgroup. So, a certain bias in postings is to be expected.  @ Feel free to exercise your rights of free speech and expression.  F However, attacks against individual posters, or groups of posters, are strongly discouraged./   ------------------------------  % Date: Sun, 21 Jan 2001 23:50:50 +0000D) From: Christof Brass <brass@infopuls.com> & Subject: Re: EUREX and CBOT New System, Message-ID: <3A6B75DA.C4526BBA@infopuls.com>   Jordan Henderson wrote:  > P > In article <910612C07BCAD1119AF40000F86AF0D805284C67@kaoexc3.kao.cpqcorp.net>,, > Main, Kerry <Kerry.Main@compaq.com> wrote: > > 5 > >>>> Your cavalier attitude toward accuracy in yourTI > >(negative)characterizations of competitors' products only adds to that03 > >impression (and to the resulting annoyance). <<<- > >- > >In your opinion. Fine.0 > >-M > >While I obviously promote OpenVMS where I feel it needs it, I also like tosM > >point out to people like yourself who are very comfortable criticizing theoK > >old Digital approach to OpenVMS (and earlier days of Compaq), but have a>O > >great difficulting admitting that there is some very good efforts being done:' > >by the current OpenVMS organization.. > >   > >Can more be done ? Certainly. > >vL > >You obviously have expertise in some area's and your comments are usuallyJ > >quite good. In other area's, your comments are more theoretical and notA > >based on actual experience where the comments are not as good.G > >o > >Fine. > >mN > >That is expected in a newsgroup. No one here is an expert in everything and$ > >I certainly do not pretend to be. > >aL > >As far as your "cavalier" comment goes, I'll not comment here as it would@ > >likely degrade into another Monty Python's "Argument Clinic". > >  > M > I, for one, appreciate your input and find OpenVMS advocacy always on-topic  > and welcome in this forum. > K > Of course, I'm probably as responsible as anyone for degrading this forumvH > into an "Argument Clinic", so perhaps I should read more and post less	 > myself.e >  > >Regards,g > >i
 > >Kerry Maind > >Senior Consultant > >Compaq Canada Inc.  > >Professional Services > >Voice: 613-592-4660 > >Fax  :  819-772-7036t > >Email: Kerry.Main@Compaq.com  > >e
 > > [snip] > >h >  > -Jordan Henderson  > jordan@greenapple.comt  > I like Kerry's contributions also and hope he will continue to> point out the positive aspects. The people reading this NG are4 in a position to sort out what is important to them.   ------------------------------  # Date: Sun, 21 Jan 2001 22:55:53 GMTa" From: "pm" <fu_ri_oso@hotmail.com>9 Subject: Has anyone sucessfully ported SMG from VMS to NTV> Message-ID: <ZNJa6.150255$P82.18160429@news1.rdc1.ct.home.com>  G HAs anyone been sucessful in port an app that uses SMG (windowing) on ae! Dec/Vax/Alpha to a pc using NT...t    
 Pasquale M   ------------------------------   Date: 22 Jan 2001 00:46:38 GMT) From: leslie@clio.rice.edu (Jerry Leslie)d= Subject: Re: Has anyone sucessfully ported SMG from VMS to NTu' Message-ID: <94fvte$adt$1@joe.rice.edu>a  ! pm (fu_ri_oso@hotmail.com) wrote: H : HAs anyone been sucessful in port an app that uses SMG (windowing) on % : a Dec/Vax/Alpha to a pc using NT...t :  :  : Pasquale M  F Sector7 has a product for such a migration (URL split into two lines):  7   http://www.sector7.com/sector7%5Fopenvms%5Fmigration/t    programming%5Ftools/winsmg.htm@   VMS Migration - VX/WINSMG - PC based GUI interface for VMS SMG    4 --Jerry Leslie     (my opinions are strictly my own)   ------------------------------  % Date: Sun, 21 Jan 2001 15:17:31 -0500d- From: JF Mezei <jfmezei.spamnot@videotron.ca>s- Subject: Re: Linux worm and RedHat 7.0 brokene, Message-ID: <3A6B43D2.95E49C39@videotron.ca>  B While the "unix is free, open source" crowd may balk at the RedHadK "proprietary" move, my bet is that the Wall Street Casino analysts will seelH this as a very positive move because it will give RedHat and even betterF business model and if the Wall Street Casono analysts say that Red HatI provides the Linux with the best long term outlook, this is where all thehL corporations will be going to when they buy their Linux servers and support.  K Remember that the "home" market doesn't generate much profits either in thenL wintel or linux worlds. It is the business market that does. So, Red Hat mayN alienate the home geeks, but if their move gives them a better business image, then they win.   ------------------------------  % Date: Sun, 21 Jan 2001 21:12:37 +0100o  From: Paul Sture <paul@sture.ch>- Subject: Re: Linux worm and RedHat 7.0 broken + Message-ID: <VA.0000024c.2579b20d@sture.ch>'  B In article <REJ$M3F8foVZ@eisner.decus.org>, Larry Kilgallen wrote:; > From: Kilgallen@eisner.decus.org.nospam (Larry Kilgallen)d > Newsgroups: comp.os.vmss/ > Subject: Re: Linux worm and RedHat 7.0 brokenr" > Date: 21 Jan 2001 10:12:45 -0500 > P > In article <VA.00000238.1e214a55@sture.ch>, Paul Sture <paul@sture.ch> writes:I > > For all of you out there who may be using or just considering Linux,  & > > please take note of the following. > > ; > > Firstly there's a worm which affects RedHat 6.2 and 7.0m > > > That would seem to only affect those who would connect Linux= > to the Internet.  Using it standalone or on a small privates- > network would seem to be less of a problem.  >o True.   P Since I wrote my initial message, I heard my VAX disk creaking away. Curious, I I looked at operator.log and found that my linux box was initiating an FTP pI session. No idea what it was doing, as I couldn't find any logs. Further eN investigation showed the same on my Alpha. Temporary solution - shut down the 
 Linux box.   Sigh.r ___a
 Paul Sture Switzerland    ------------------------------  # Date: Sun, 21 Jan 2001 20:33:42 GMTt8 From: Veli =?iso-8859-1?Q?K=F6rkk=F6?= <korkko@decus.fi> Subject: Re: LN06 replacement ( Message-ID: <3A69450E.3778AEA4@decus.fi>   Paul Anderson wrote: > C > In article <hddi39.52o.ln@momsys.fuller.local>, stufuller@usa.neth > wrote: > = > > Since Compaq no longer sells printers, we are looking fornL > > recommendations for a suitable replacement. Again, our requirements are: > >         - Postscript > >         - Duplex > >         - Supported by DCPS' > J > Those requirements don't narrow it down much.  You don't mention monthlyF > duty cycle or number or capacity of trays, for example, although the% > LN06 didn't have many trays anyway.o > J > GENICOM has printers in the LN series (LN21, LN28, LNM40) which are 21-,I > 28- and 40-page-per-minute printers, respectively.  These don't require H > a DCPS-OPEN license and work well.  Perhaps the LN21 is the closest toH > the LN06, being the smallest, although the base LNM40 isn't physicallyF > big either.  These printers have been tested with DCPS more than anyC > others, since when at GENICOM we did a lot of testing on both the  > printers and DCPS. > ) > You can compare the GENICOM printers at  > 1 >    http://www.genicom.com/usa/products/page.htm  > E > DCPS also supports printers from HP and Lexmark, but until the next F > version comes out, you'll find those models a bit old and perhaps no: > longer available.  You'll need a DCPS-OPEN license also. > H > The next version of DCPS will support a bunch of current printers from+ > HP, Lexmark and Xerox as well as GENICOM.y >  > Paul >  > --. >    Paul Anderson, OpenVMS Engineering (DCPS). >    Compaq Computer Corporation, Littleton MA    ; Paul, have you ever considered adding any of Canon printerse to  6 to the set of DPCS supported printers. I just recently "fixed"V8 a printing problem with Canon 1760 I think. Customer was usingo9 TELNETSYM (UCX) for the actual driving of the printer andg ownj% software for generating the PS files.o  7 The problem was that queue stalled at the start of nextw6 print job if there were jobs (to be printed) in "close9 succession". My theory was that somehow the print job did  notN< logically complete in the printer ps interpreter and printer: did timeout to end the job. So I created a file containing8 CONTROL-D (CONTROLD.TXT) and inserted it into the DEVICE7 LIBRARY (.TLB) and did /SEPARATE=RESET=CONTROLD for thec queue.  5 That seemed to fix it as I was able to print 100 jobss
 consecutivelyt< without any stalls at all. But of course I would have rather used; DCPS to drive the whole thing, alas this Canon 1760(???) isi not  supported model. e   _velio   ------------------------------  % Date: Sun, 21 Jan 2001 20:41:45 -0500h- From: "Mitchell, David R." <mitchell@WPI.EDU>e Subject: RE: LN06 replacementbH Message-ID: <FE1835D68492D311BF7900508B5BEB0D0DEDCE@petra.admin.wpi.edu>   > -----Original Message-----0 > From: Veli K=F6rkk=F6 [mailto:korkko@decus.fi]( > Sent: Sunday, January 21, 2001 3:34 PM > To: Info-VAX@Mvb.Saic.Comt > Subject: Re: LN06 replacementh >=20 >=20 >=20 >=20 > Paul Anderson wrote: > >=20E > > In article <hddi39.52o.ln@momsys.fuller.local>, stufuller@usa.net 
 > > wrote: > >=20   <snip>   >=20= > Paul, have you ever considered adding any of Canon printersr > to=20a8 > to the set of DPCS supported printers. I just recently	 > "fixed"a: > a printing problem with Canon 1760 I think. Customer was > usinge; > TELNETSYM (UCX) for the actual driving of the printer and  > own ' > software for generating the PS files.d >=209 > The problem was that queue stalled at the start of next 8 > print job if there were jobs (to be printed) in "close; > succession". My theory was that somehow the print job didr > notp> > logically complete in the printer ps interpreter and printer< > did timeout to end the job. So I created a file containing: > CONTROL-D (CONTROLD.TXT) and inserted it into the DEVICE= > LIBRARY (.TLB) and did /SEPARATE=3DRESET=3DCONTROLD for thei > queue. >=207 > That seemed to fix it as I was able to print 100 jobsa > consecutivelyN> > without any stalls at all. But of course I would have rather > used= > DCPS to drive the whole thing, alas this Canon 1760(???) is  > not  > supported model.=20I >=20 > _velio >=20 >=20  ? Just as an FYI, we have had good luck with a variety of Canon =s multi-functionG devices (printer/fax/scanner/copier) in "unsupported" mode.  We've usednE versions 1.7 and 1.8 of DCPS via Appletalk to print to a mixture of =s GP200's,E GP600's, and Imagerunner X00's.  Our initial testing didn't work withtH Appletalk at all, so we switched to LPD and ran into a problem similar = toF what you described with the job not completing.  A short while later = our C reseller came back with a newly released network board (which has =s shippedeI with all new models for the last year and a half) which has worked fine =r withH Appletalk.  While I'd prefer to see these devices officially supported = as weoG now have quite a few of them, we've yet to run into any problems with =  them.o   Davidt   ------------------------------  % Date: Sun, 21 Jan 2001 20:19:17 -0600d7 From: "David J. Dachtera" <djesys.nospam@earthlink.net>.5 Subject: Re: Mounting new disks to Alpha DS10 problemm- Message-ID: <3A6B98A5.2F2270C6@earthlink.net>j   Antony Wardle wrote: >  > try mount/over = id dka100 > + > get the volume name, then dismount dka100d >  > then mount/sys dka100 "label"  > 0 > your mount command doesn't look correct to me.  D Hhmmm... Well, perhaps assigning the logical $DUA11 as a result of aG MOUNT isn't quite "kosher", but I doubt that it's particularly harmful,i  especially with the leading "$".  G 'Bout the only other change I might suggest is to drop the leading nodeeH name from the device specification, unless it's a remote disk being MSCP served by another node.   u1 > not sure about that green postage thing though,P3 > I wouldn't have thought that vms would have likedD > disks turning themselves off.   F It doesn't. However, at least the Orb with the latest firmware doesn'tD do the MntVerify schtick when it spins back up after and idle-period1 spin down. VMS just waits for it to spin back up.:   -- 0 David J. DachteraJ dba DJE Systemsy http://www.djesys.com/  : Unofficial Affordable OpenVMS Home Page and Message Board: http://www.djesys.com/vms/soho/e  F This *IS* an OpenVMS-related newsgroup. So, a certain bias in postings is to be expected.  @ Feel free to exercise your rights of free speech and expression.  F However, attacks against individual posters, or groups of posters, are strongly discouraged.l   ------------------------------  % Date: Sun, 21 Jan 2001 12:49:08 -0600// From: Chris Scheers <chris@applied-synergy.com> * Subject: Re: New OpenVMS Times now on line3 Message-ID: <3A6B2F24.B289FAC0@applied-synergy.com>p   Bill Gunshannon wrote: > / > In article <19JAN200105105192@gerg.tamu.edu>,o, >  carl@gerg.tamu.edu (Carl Perkins) writes: > |>H > |> Not everybody has a postscript printer. You don't need a postscript< > |> printer to print a PFD file (well, not on a PC anyway). > G > Ummm.  You don't need a Postscript printer to print a PS file either..F > You can do it exactly the same way, with software.  And the price of% > the software is even the same.  :-)  > H > I am still trying to figure out why we needed a proprietary "Portable"F > Document Format when Postscript was already about as portable as you > could get.  E The PDF file format works better for viewing than does the Postscripth format.t  9 If all you want to do is print, Postscript may be better.g  G ----------------------------------------------------------------------- $ Chris Scheers, Applied Synergy, Inc.  C Voice: 817-237-3360            Internet: chris@applied-synergy.com     Fax: 817-237-30741   ------------------------------  % Date: Sun, 21 Jan 2001 21:12:36 +0100   From: Paul Sture <paul@sture.ch>* Subject: Re: New OpenVMS Times now on line+ Message-ID: <VA.0000024b.2579af46@sture.ch>   A In article <94eu2m$oh$1@lisa.gemair.com>, Jordan Henderson wrote:r > . > In article <94cntk$1d7n$1@info.cs.uofs.edu>,/ > Bill Gunshannon <bill@cs.scranton.edu> wrote:I0 > >In article <19JAN200105105192@gerg.tamu.edu>,- > > carl@gerg.tamu.edu (Carl Perkins) writes:  > >|>dI > >|> Not everybody has a postscript printer. You don't need a postscriptn= > >|> printer to print a PFD file (well, not on a PC anyway).r > >nH > >Ummm.  You don't need a Postscript printer to print a PS file either.G > >You can do it exactly the same way, with software.  And the price oft& > >the software is even the same.  :-) > >pI > >I am still trying to figure out why we needed a proprietary "Portable"eG > >Document Format when Postscript was already about as portable as youo
 > >could get.t > >  > F > Bandwidth.  Postscript is impractical for serving up reasonable sizeH > documents over the Internet to the typical slow MODEM connections that > most users have. >gK I've found no way to print a straight Postscript document from a PC. It's, c ahem, frustrating.  L Unfortunately bandwidth is exactly what a lot of sites seem to forget. I am / unfortunate enough here to get BBC Prime on TV.-  C It's basically crap, but I gather I pay for it anyway. Interesting  M documentaries at midday at the moment. Odd gems, but basically total rubbish  / in an evening, so I want to find the schedules.c  M I try visiting www.bbcprime.com. At work it tries to persuade me to download e Flash, Shockwave and IE.  ( A BIG NO NO. I CAN LOSE MY JOB FOR THAT!  N I try navigating the site nevertheless, but cannot reach the feedback page to  tell them how rubbish it is.  2 I've just tried from home, and this is what I get:  @ "You require Flash version 4 or above to view the following site  3 Install the latest verion of flash and shockwave:  d  J If you know you have already installed flash 4 or above then please click  here to visit the site  N Please note that if your are trying to view the site on a Macintosh and using M Internet Explorer you will have to upgrade your Internet Explorer to version l 5 or above to view the site!  ? Click here to download the latest version of Internet Explorer"   B What???? Download IE over over a modem??? They've gotta be joking!  . Who the hell are the clowns running this site?  I UK readers - Your TV licence pounds at work, and do you even receive the f bloody channel?o   ___ 
 Paul Sture Switzerland/   ------------------------------  # Date: Sun, 21 Jan 2001 20:43:18 GMT - From: goathunter@goatley.com (Hunter Goatley) * Subject: Re: New OpenVMS Times now on line0 Message-ID: <3a6b4968.19936607@swen.process.com>  E On Sun, 21 Jan 2001 21:12:36 +0100, Paul Sture <paul@sture.ch> wrote:   L >I've found no way to print a straight Postscript document from a PC. It's,  >ahem, frustrating.@ >oB From a DOS window, COPY /B X.PS LPT1: will sometimes work, but not always.2  @ I found this piece of freeware that does a great job of queueing straight PS files:  ( PrintFile, Easy file printing in Windows* http://hem.passagen.se/ptlerup/prfile.html   Hunter ------9 Hunter Goatley, Process Software, http://www.process.com/e9 goathunter@goatley.com     http://www.goatley.com/hunter/a   ------------------------------    Date: 21 Jan 2001 17:50:52 -05009 From: Kilgallen@eisner.decus.org.nospam (Larry Kilgallen)e* Subject: Re: New OpenVMS Times now on line+ Message-ID: <L0BsqiSvQeaL@eisner.decus.org>a  N In article <VA.0000024b.2579af46@sture.ch>, Paul Sture <paul@sture.ch> writes:C > In article <94eu2m$oh$1@lisa.gemair.com>, Jordan Henderson wrote:t >> e/ >> In article <94cntk$1d7n$1@info.cs.uofs.edu>, 0 >> Bill Gunshannon <bill@cs.scranton.edu> wrote:1 >> >In article <19JAN200105105192@gerg.tamu.edu>,x. >> > carl@gerg.tamu.edu (Carl Perkins) writes: >> >|>J >> >|> Not everybody has a postscript printer. You don't need a postscript> >> >|> printer to print a PFD file (well, not on a PC anyway). >> >I >> >Ummm.  You don't need a Postscript printer to print a PS file either.eH >> >You can do it exactly the same way, with software.  And the price of' >> >the software is even the same.  :-)o >> >J >> >I am still trying to figure out why we needed a proprietary "Portable"H >> >Document Format when Postscript was already about as portable as you >> >could get. >> > >>  G >> Bandwidth.  Postscript is impractical for serving up reasonable sizeeI >> documents over the Internet to the typical slow MODEM connections thatp >> most users have.a >>M > I've found no way to print a straight Postscript document from a PC. It's, a > ahem, frustrating.  D But certainly this is just a matter of software.  You send the bytes< to a printer that contains the proper fonts -- end of story.  A If there is a defect in your PC operating system, switch to OS/2.r   ------------------------------  % Date: Mon, 22 Jan 2001 00:49:29 +0100e  From: Paul Sture <paul@sture.ch>* Subject: Re: New OpenVMS Times now on line+ Message-ID: <VA.0000024d.0012b96a@sture.ch>-  F In article <3a6b4968.19936607@swen.process.com>, Hunter Goatley wrote:/ > From: goathunter@goatley.com (Hunter Goatley)G > Newsgroups: comp.os.vmsD, > Subject: Re: New OpenVMS Times now on line% > Date: Sun, 21 Jan 2001 20:43:18 GMTp > G > On Sun, 21 Jan 2001 21:12:36 +0100, Paul Sture <paul@sture.ch> wrote:t > N > >I've found no way to print a straight Postscript document from a PC. It's,  > >ahem, frustrating.e > >(D > From a DOS window, COPY /B X.PS LPT1: will sometimes work, but not	 > always.e >g  $ Doesn't work for me. I _have_ tried.  B > I found this piece of freeware that does a great job of queueing > straight PS files: > * > PrintFile, Easy file printing in Windows, > http://hem.passagen.se/ptlerup/prfile.html >    Thanks for that link.( ___p
 Paul Sture Switzerland    ------------------------------  % Date: Mon, 22 Jan 2001 01:31:53 +0100l  From: Paul Sture <paul@sture.ch>* Subject: Re: New OpenVMS Times now on line+ Message-ID: <VA.0000024f.00398c00@sture.ch>i  B In article <L0BsqiSvQeaL@eisner.decus.org>, Larry Kilgallen wrote:  2 [mucho snippo - sorry I still think of 14K modems]  C > If there is a defect in your PC operating system, switch to OS/2.D >3  Q Wish that I could. I distinctly remember a messsage from 1995 where somebody was kP saying something like "I've got 2 modems running at full speed, and I'm doing a N full compile at the same time". Back in those days it would have been a 20 or / 33MHz machine at best, certainly not a Pentium.o  2 The response in the newsgroups was also excellent. ___t
 Paul Sture Switzerlandi9 "The box said Windows 3.1 or better, so I bought OpenVMS"u   ------------------------------  # Date: Mon, 22 Jan 2001 00:28:11 GMTs( From: Terry Kennedy <terry@gate.tmk.com>* Subject: Re: New OpenVMS Times now on line' Message-ID: <G7JFyz.K9z@spcuna.spc.edu>e  " Paul Sture <paul@sture.ch> writes:E >> From a DOS window, COPY /B X.PS LPT1: will sometimes work, but not-
 >> always. >a& > Doesn't work for me. I _have_ tried.  J   Try using "lpt1.os2" (no colon) instead of "lpt1:". Depends on the phase of the moon if it's any better.0  4         Terry Kennedy             http://www.tmk.com5         terry@tmk.com             Jersey City, NJ USAc   ------------------------------  % Date: Sun, 21 Jan 2001 16:25:35 -0500:, From: Howard S Shubs <hshubs@mindspring.com> Subject: Re: Oldtimer forgot! > Message-ID: <hshubs-B477E8.16253521012001@news.mindspring.com>   In article  E <F6D766F0EF20C27E.4918811DC920E8AD.77B136E195466CD5@lp.airnews.net>, ,* Wayne Holland <wholland@tscnet.com> wrote:  I >The program I am compiling is a fortran source file.  Unfortunately, itstC >an older fortran program trying to access the command line via thet >($clidef) fortran library...oI >"include '($clidef)' ".  So when I type in "RUN PROGRAM ARG1 ARG2" I geteG >the dcl error of too many parameters.  I used this program a long time. >ago on vax 785.  * Do you have a .CLD file with that program?   -- iG "...run in circles, scream and shout!"    I hope you have good backups.a   ------------------------------  % Date: Sun, 21 Jan 2001 20:03:50 -0600l7 From: "David J. Dachtera" <djesys.nospam@earthlink.net>S Subject: Re: Oldtimer forgot!-- Message-ID: <3A6B9506.B213C262@earthlink.net>2   Paul Sture wrote:e > H > In article <3A6A6024.4684C644@earthlink.net>, David J. Dachtera wrote: >  > [snip] > M > > > Hi, getting to the linker docs is what I don't have.  I'm logging in too > > > a remote system.D > > > If I'd only asked two months earlier I could have had the fullG > > > documentation set.  Wouldn't know where I'd park all of them tho.eI > > > I checked Compaq's site and couldn't find any detailed linker docs.u > > I > > Well, stuff *IS* hard to find over there. We've been hounding the "Q"dH > > about it for more than two years now - no improvement, in fact hings > > continue to deteriorate. > > M > Not how I see it. For example, a colleague tells me that the Ada User GuiderL > has just appeared in pdf format on the Compaq website, meaning that he can > print it out.h > N > A definite improvement. Someone is obviously putting in some hard work here. > L > Whatever direction the current discussion in another thread here about pdfJ > files takes, that's a vast improvement on Bookreader print capabilities.  H VMS & related doc.'s, however, are mostly HTML-only - no PDFs available.  = ...unless there's a corner of that web site that I've missed.    -- t David J. Dachtera/ dba DJE Systems. http://www.djesys.com/  : Unofficial Affordable OpenVMS Home Page and Message Board: http://www.djesys.com/vms/soho/e  F This *IS* an OpenVMS-related newsgroup. So, a certain bias in postings is to be expected.  @ Feel free to exercise your rights of free speech and expression.  F However, attacks against individual posters, or groups of posters, are strongly discouraged.    ------------------------------    Date: 21 Jan 2001 17:48:13 -05009 From: Kilgallen@eisner.decus.org.nospam (Larry Kilgallen)n6 Subject: Re: OpenVMS : solid but low profile - by CNET+ Message-ID: <Mk5W5QOBwioq@eisner.decus.org>m  K In article <3A6B034E.5CC2DCA3@Omond.net>, Roy Omond <Roy@Omond.net> writes:d > Larry Kilgallen wrote: > @ >> Analysis of press reports would indicate Intel management has@ >> never read "The Incredible Man-Month".  Hiring more engineers >> can really hurt.c > / > [minor nitpick]  "The *Mythical* Man Month" ?n  ' Absolutely.  I apologize for the error.    ------------------------------  % Date: Sun, 21 Jan 2001 23:59:38 +0000d) From: Christof Brass <brass@infopuls.com>)6 Subject: Re: OpenVMS : solid but low profile - by CNET, Message-ID: <3A6B77EA.6966C99B@infopuls.com>   Larry Kilgallen wrote: > ? > Analysis of press reports would indicate Intel management hasl? > never read "The Incredible Man-Month".  Hiring more engineersl > can really hurt.  ; Was it "The Mythical Man-Month" by Frederick P. Brooks, Jr.-9 (Addison-Wesley Publishing Co.Reading, Massachusetts ISBN 8 0-201-83595-9 - this is the anniversary edition with two> additional chapters - very recommended reading anyway)? I love< this book but you can speed up a project by adding people if. there is not a woman-child-bottleneck-problem.   ------------------------------  % Date: Sun, 21 Jan 2001 13:38:28 -0800i! From: Koloth <koloth@tmisnet.com>m4 Subject: Problem using RZ40-AS on HSJ40 when striped+ Message-ID: <3A6B56D4.803013B2@tmisnet.com>f  E We were trying to add RZ40s to our HSJ40 running HSOF V3.4.  They are 0 connected to Alpha systems running OpenVMS V7.1.  B We can set up single disk RZ40 just fine.  We then try to create aH stripeset on the HSJ40.  We can init the stripeset on the HSJ40 but whenC we try and init the unit from OpenVMS we get a media offline error.n  4 The disks are RZ40-AS.  Their firmware rev. is 8203.  D Compaq support is still investigating this so I just wanted to throwH this out to see if anyone else may have experienced this problem and has
 an answer.   TIAe   Cass Witkowski SAIC   ------------------------------  % Date: Sun, 21 Jan 2001 17:12:06 -0500i2 From: "John Gemignani, Jr." <john@ossc.DELETE.net>B Subject: Re: To Hoff Hoffman: Any news about the VMS DHCP client ?) Message-ID: <3a6b5ede@newsfeed.vitts.com>C  : TCP/IP Services for OpenVMS V5.1 submitted this past week.$ It includes support for DHCP client.   -John   + "Dirk Munk" <munk@home.nl> wrote in messageu! news:3A69B881.7CFFBA8E@home.nl...r > The subject says it all :-)C >n
 > Regards, >  > Dirk >u   ------------------------------  # Date: Sun, 21 Jan 2001 20:33:52 GMT 8 From: Veli =?iso-8859-1?Q?K=F6rkk=F6?= <korkko@decus.fi> Subject: Re: Vax 7830 or 7730p( Message-ID: <3A6B4675.F2F1ACD9@decus.fi>  8 You must have fairly decent version of VMS. (or should I; rather say recent as almost all VMS versions are decent...)i/ And some console level setting which was either    	BOOTVAX_COMPATP or 	COMPAT_MODE  3 must be correctly set. Otherwise even VMS V7.2 willo	 recognizeg. a VAX 7000-8x0 as VAX 7000-7x0. I think it was BOOTVAX_COMPAT8 and the trick was to allow V5.5-2H4 run on -8x0. You may have< this setting wrong and therefore VMS recognizes system as a 9 -7x0. It still runs just like real -8x0 if it really is ai -8x0.p   _veli      Dirk Munk wrote: >  > carsesrac@my-deja.com wrote: > >  > > This the situation. & > > We have several vax's and alpha's.4 > > In our contract is standing that the biggest vax3 > > we have is a 7830 with 3 cpu's, but when I givej > > the command:* > > $ write sys$output f$getsyi("hw_name")- > > It says "VAX 7730" instead of "VAX 7830".W/ > > My first question is what is the difference * > > between the VAX 7830 and the VAX 7730. > G > The VAX 7830 is a 7000 series VAX (>7<830) 3 boards (78>3<0) with 800o > series cpu's (7>8<30).2 > The VAX 7730 has 3 boards with 700 series cpu's. > H > The difference is the speed, the 800 series are about twice as fast as > the 700 series (AFAIK).  > 5 > > And what do have to modify in the software to let 0 > > it show as a VAX 7830 instead of a VAX 7730. > >i > > Greeting > > Jeroen M.W. van Dijk > >P > > Sent via Deja.come > > http://www.deja.com/   ------------------------------   End of INFO-VAX 2001.043 ************************