1 INFO-VAX	Wed, 04 Jul 2001	Volume 2001 : Issue 368       Contents:1 Re: 3 Reasons why VMS is alive and probably well+ 1 Re: 3 Reasons why VMS is alive and probably well+ 1 Re: 3 Reasons why VMS is alive and probably well+ - 3 Reasons why VMS is alive and probably well+ 1 Re: 3 Reasons why VMS is alive and probably well+  4 mm tape drive  Re: 4 mm tape drive  Re: 4 mm tape drive  Re: 4 mm tape drive  Re: 4 mm tape drive 9 Re: Alpha/NT conspiracy theorists should love this one... 9 Re: Alpha/NT conspiracy theorists should love this one...  Re: Changing platforms. ( Re: Compaq's Alpha design team for sale? Re: CSWS 1.1 & TCPware DEC Net and TCP/IP Re: DEC Net and TCP/IP Re: DEC Net and TCP/IP Re: DEC Net and TCP/IP Re: DEC Net and TCP/IP Re: DEC Net and TCP/IP RE: DEC Net and TCP/IP RE: DEC Net and TCP/IP DECnet performance with Linux ! Re: DECnet performance with Linux ! Re: DECnet performance with Linux  DECWORLD 2001 Byte article Re: DECWORLD 2001 Byte article Re: DECWORLD 2001 Byte article% Difference between an 8820 and 8820-N & Re: EMC fibre disk on ES40 + VMS 7.2-1  RE: Full port of VMS to Itanium.  RE: Full port of VMS to Itanium.# re:  I didn't stick it upside down! " re: I didn't stick it upside down! Re: IA64 Rocks My World ) Re: lsedit or whatever xwindow on my pc ?  Need XML Parser for C/C++  Re: Need XML Parser for C/C++  Re: Need XML Parser for C/C++  Nodenames in cluster! Re: Planet of the Apes comes true  PointSecure site was hacked ??? # Re: PointSecure site was hacked ??? # Re: PointSecure site was hacked ??? # Re: PointSecure site was hacked ??? # Re: PointSecure site was hacked ??? # Re: PointSecure site was hacked ??? # Re: PointSecure site was hacked ??? # Re: PointSecure site was hacked ??? # Re: PointSecure site was hacked ??? # Re: PointSecure site was hacked ??? # Re: PointSecure site was hacked ??? # Re: PointSecure site was hacked ??? # Re: PointSecure site was hacked ??? ( Re: Probably the strangest request yet!!> Re: Problems Creating ODBC Connections to RDB databases on vms Re: QBUS SCSI Adapter  Re: Question to Charlie Matco.
 Re: Rdb troll 2 RE: Strange behavior of BACKUP/SINCE=BACKUP/RECORD2 Re: Strange behavior of BACKUP/SINCE=BACKUP/RECORD2 RE: Strange behavior of BACKUP/SINCE=BACKUP/RECORD Re: The Alpha/IA64 Hybrid  Re: UPS for AlphaServer 2100A  Re: VAX-11/780 boot disk needed  Re: VMS 7.3 experiences?7 Wailing and Moaning (was: Full port of VMS to Itanium.)  Re: will the irony never cease Re: will the irony never cease Re: will the irony never cease% Writing to OPA0: from a device driver   F ----------------------------------------------------------------------  % Date: Wed, 04 Jul 2001 12:10:12 +0200 & From: Bob Marcan <bob.marcan@aster.si>: Subject: Re: 3 Reasons why VMS is alive and probably well+( Message-ID: <3B42EB84.B17D8639@aster.si>  4 http://bjbrew.org/cpq/ssic_linux/montreal/sld001.htm  % I see, they will rename VMS to Linux.    Best regards, Bob        Bill Todd wrote: > 5 > "Bob Marcan" <bob.marcan@aster.si> wrote in message $ > news:3B41FE4D.582DF76D@aster.si...> > > C'mon, Arne. Did you read about clustering on Tru64 v5.1a?; > > Did you try v5.1? They have lot inherited from the VMS.  > 4 > And are open-sourcing a great deal of it on Linux: > # > http://www.opensource.compaq.com/  > G > (though I don't know how much of the newer stuff is mixed into that).  >  > - bill   --  @  Bob Marcan                           mailto:bob.marcan@aster.si?  Aster                                tel:    +386 (1) 5894-329 ?  Nade Ovcakove 1                      fax:    +386 (1) 5894-201 @  1000 Ljubljana, Slovenia                    http://www.aster.si   ------------------------------  $ Date: Wed, 4 Jul 2001 12:38:09 +0200< From: "Martin Vorlaender" <martin.vorlaender@pdv-systeme.de>: Subject: Re: 3 Reasons why VMS is alive and probably well+4 Message-ID: <9hurlb$g4tg5$1@ID-56200.news.dfncis.de>   Bob Marcan wrote...  >Bill Todd wrote: . >> "Bob Marcan" <bob.marcan@aster.si> wrote...? >> > C'mon, Arne. Did you read about clustering on Tru64 v5.1a? < >> > Did you try v5.1? They have lot inherited from the VMS. >>5 >> And are open-sourcing a great deal of it on Linux: $ >> http://www.opensource.compaq.com/H >> (though I don't know how much of the newer stuff is mixed into that). > 6 > http://bjbrew.org/cpq/ssic_linux/montreal/sld001.htm > ' > I see, they will rename VMS to Linux.   E Do I understand that right? They want to give away cluster technology ; for ...? For what? To buy themselves into the Linux market?   C Does anyone still beleive those <expletives deleted> PHMs know what  they're doing?   cu,    Martin --J One OS to rule them all       | Martin Vorlaender  |  VMS & WNT programmer7 One OS to find them           | work: mv@pdv-systeme.de  One OS to bring them all      | ( http://www.pdv-systeme.de/users/martinv/> And in the Darkness bind them.| home: martin@radiogaga.harz.de   ------------------------------  % Date: Wed, 04 Jul 2001 12:29:02 +0100 % From: Alan Greig <a.greig@virgin.net> : Subject: Re: 3 Reasons why VMS is alive and probably well+8 Message-ID: <o7v5ktsbuqublhu97iuesnoh24mdqlr9c8@4ax.com>  7 On Wed, 4 Jul 2001 12:38:09 +0200, "Martin Vorlaender"  F >Do I understand that right? They want to give away cluster technology< >for ...? For what? To buy themselves into the Linux market? > D >Does anyone still beleive those <expletives deleted> PHMs know what >they're doing?   F Nope. I;'ve thought about it for a while and Compaq quite clearly haveC a death wish like Digital before them. Probably the aim is to crash B the company so badly that it is taken over by Intel. Who will take7 over Intel five years down the line is anybody's guess.   D These slides do seem to  make it quite clear that Compaq has no clueF whatsoever about ex DEC technology and will shut it down, sell it off,1 give it away. Whatever it takes to get rid of it.    >cu,	 >  Martin    -- Alan   ------------------------------  % Date: Wed, 04 Jul 2001 15:43:51 +0200 $ From: Michael Unger <unger@decus.de>6 Subject: 3 Reasons why VMS is alive and probably well++ Message-ID: <009FE828.963CA7CF.15@decus.de>   & > Date: Wed, 4 Jul 2001 12:29:02 +0100' > From: Alan Greig <a.greig@VIRGIN.NET> < > Subject: Re: 3 Reasons why VMS is alive and probably well+ >   8 > On Wed, 4 Jul 2001 12:38:09 +0200, "Martin Vorlaender"H > >Do I understand that right? They want to give away cluster technology> > >for ...? For what? To buy themselves into the Linux market? > > F > >Does anyone still beleive those <expletives deleted> PHMs know what > >they're doing?  >   H > Nope. I;'ve thought about it for a while and Compaq quite clearly have( > a death wish like Digital before them.  K Suicide in fear of death? I guess psychologists can explain this very well.   E >                                        Probably the aim is to crash D > the company so badly that it is taken over by Intel. Who will take9 > over Intel five years down the line is anybody's guess.  >   F > These slides do seem to  make it quite clear that Compaq has no clueH > whatsoever about ex DEC technology and will shut it down, sell it off,3 > give it away. Whatever it takes to get rid of it.   A Indeed. Compaq ready for "enterprise business"? I don't think so.    Michael    ------------------------------   Date: 4 Jul 2001 07:54:30 CDT = From: wayne@tachysoft.xxx.320117.killspam.015d (Wayne Sewell) : Subject: Re: 3 Reasons why VMS is alive and probably well+. Message-ID: <LCr0hkItFTVt@tachxxsoftxxconsult>  o In article <9RAEVBnZDwOg@eisner.encompasserve.org>, Kilgallen@eisner.decus.org.nospam (Larry Kilgallen) writes: p > In article <+x2IDvG+Rgvz@tachxxsoftxxconsult>, wayne@tachysoft.xxx.320117.killspam.015d (Wayne Sewell) writes: >>  N >> It also determines *how* they support the platform.  For instance, softwareL >> partners has always been forced to use its own mechanism for license keys; >> because of the incredible cost of the LMF PAK generator.  > H > I find it unbelievable that they get a higher price than LJK Software.  M So how much is the thing now?  Last I heard, it was ten grand.  The price may N or may not have gone down, but that's what it was at the time we started using
 our own keys.    --  O =============================================================================== M Wayne Sewell, Tachyon Software Consulting  (281)812-0738  wayne@tachysoft.xxx : http://www.tachysoft.xxx/www/tachyon.html and wayne.html  K change .xxx to .com in addresses above, assuming you are not a spambot  :-) O =============================================================================== ? Flounder: "I can't believe I threw up in front of Dean Wormer." >    Otter: "Face it, Flounder.  You threw up *on* Dean Wormer."   ------------------------------  $ Date: Wed, 4 Jul 2001 22:02:39 +0900& From: "David Lee" <phongle@kornet.net> Subject: 4 mm tape drive+ Message-ID: <9hv428$af2$1@news1.kornet.net>   I Does anyone know how to to reset the tape drive on an ES40?  The busy and L status light indicator is on even though there is no tape in it.  I tried toI insert the tape in but it won't take it.  It seemed like the latch is not  release or somehow.    Any idieas!  Thanks   ------------------------------  % Date: Wed, 04 Jul 2001 14:15:46 +0100   From: steven.reece@quintiles.com Subject: Re: 4 mm tape driveH Message-ID: <OF7D51DC01.84191255-ON80256A7F.0048AF0E@qedi.quintiles.com>  G The normal way would be to power cycle the drive (that's what the TLZ07 D recommends when the two LEDs flash at 2Hz indicating a drive fault).H If the ES40 is anything like its AlphaServer 4100 predecessor though, it! will probably mean a server down.  Steve.   David Lee asked :  >>> I Does anyone know how to to reset the tape drive on an ES40?  The busy and I status light indicator is on even though there is no tape in it.  I tried  toI insert the tape in but it won't take it.  It seemed like the latch is not  release or somehow.  <<<    ------------------------------  % Date: Wed, 04 Jul 2001 11:20:11 -0400 2 From: rdeininger@mindspring.com (Robert Deininger) Subject: Re: 4 mm tape driveL Message-ID: <rdeininger-0407011120110001@user-2ive7io.dialup.mindspring.com>  H In article <OF7D51DC01.84191255-ON80256A7F.0048AF0E@qedi.quintiles.com>,! steven.reece@quintiles.com wrote:   I > The normal way would be to power cycle the drive (that's what the TLZ07 F > recommends when the two LEDs flash at 2Hz indicating a drive fault).J > If the ES40 is anything like its AlphaServer 4100 predecessor though, it# > will probably mean a server down.  > Steve.  G They're putting nasty 4 mm tape drives in nice ES40 systems?  Blecchh!   Who thought of that?  L When I get my hobbyist GS320, I'm hoping it comes with a paper tape reader.    :-)    --   Robert Deininger rdeininger@mindspring.com    ------------------------------  $ Date: Wed, 4 Jul 2001 08:36:02 -0700* From: "Jack Peacock" <peacock@simconv.com> Subject: Re: 4 mm tape drive4 Message-ID: <NLG07.4723$Ib.492412@news1.primary.net>  ? "Robert Deininger" <rdeininger@mindspring.com> wrote in message F news:rdeininger-0407011120110001@user-2ive7io.dialup.mindspring.com...E > When I get my hobbyist GS320, I'm hoping it comes with a paper tape  reader.  > ! You don't back up to punch cards?    Jack Peacock   ------------------------------  % Date: Wed, 04 Jul 2001 18:06:01 +0100   From: Paul Sture <paul@sture.ch> Subject: Re: 4 mm tape drive+ Message-ID: <VA.000003f9.3b2d0e19@sture.ch>   M In article <rdeininger-0407011120110001@user-2ive7io.dialup.mindspring.com>,   Robert Deininger wrote: 4 > From: rdeininger@mindspring.com (Robert Deininger) > Newsgroups: comp.os.vms  > Subject: Re: 4 mm tape drive' > Date: Wed, 04 Jul 2001 11:20:11 -0400  > J > In article <OF7D51DC01.84191255-ON80256A7F.0048AF0E@qedi.quintiles.com>,# > steven.reece@quintiles.com wrote:  > K > > The normal way would be to power cycle the drive (that's what the TLZ07 H > > recommends when the two LEDs flash at 2Hz indicating a drive fault).L > > If the ES40 is anything like its AlphaServer 4100 predecessor though, it% > > will probably mean a server down. 
 > > Steve. > I > They're putting nasty 4 mm tape drives in nice ES40 systems?  Blecchh!   > Who thought of that? > N > When I get my hobbyist GS320, I'm hoping it comes with a paper tape reader.  > ? Who pays for your electricity?  A GS320/24 uses nearly 10KW :-)  ___ 
 Paul Sture Switzerland    ------------------------------  % Date: Wed, 04 Jul 2001 09:48:49 +0100 % From: Alan Greig <a.greig@virgin.net> B Subject: Re: Alpha/NT conspiracy theorists should love this one...8 Message-ID: <utl5ktg7h3et7b6brd7t6lo0lk8fs4mldl@4ax.com>  C On Wed, 04 Jul 2001 03:54:00 GMT, brown_du@eisner.decus.org (Duncan 
 Brown) wrote:   B >We all figured that MS continued to develop the 64-bit Windows onB >Alpha even though that O/S target was officially cancelled.  WhatB >choice did they have?  Wait for working IA-64 chips?!  If you had6 >acted fast, perhaps you could have had working proof:  A No need to go to that expense as Windows 2000 Release Candidate 2 ; shipped to hundreds of thousand of customers with Microsoft F Development Network (MSDN) subscriptions. And the final release can be< found for ftp download in various places if you look for it.   -- Alan   ------------------------------  # Date: Wed, 04 Jul 2001 12:19:03 GMT = From: system@SendSpamHere.ORG (Brian Schenkenberger, VAXman-) B Subject: Re: Alpha/NT conspiracy theorists should love this one...0 Message-ID: <009FE7EA.72D3B188@SendSpamHere.ORG>  b In article <3b429137.54642113@news.telocity.com>, brown_du@eisner.decus.org (Duncan Brown) writes: {...snip...}@ >Duncan, wondering why everyone abruptly cancels their perfectlyD >working Alpha O/Ses and puts their support behind near vaporware...% >did someone threaten their families?   D Yes. 'Twas Willie "the patella cracka" Gates and his band enforcers.    C What I find to cause me the most stomach wretching emetic responses D is the way that d|i|g|i|t|a|l and also the "Q" management has testi-C fied on behalf of the Redmond Racketters.  I thought that collusion D and perjury were criminal -- not that our court system cares to everE prosecute these trivial crimes.  Take it from one that's been screwed , by legally sanctioned collusion and perjury.   --O VAXman- OpenVMS APE certification number: AAA-0001     VAXman(at)TMESIS(dot)COM              J   "And of course, I'm a genius, so people are naturally drawn to my fiery I   intellect.  Their admiration overwhelms their envy!" -- Calvin & Hobbes    ------------------------------  % Date: Wed, 04 Jul 2001 09:19:44 -0600  From: yyyc186@mindspring.com  Subject: Re: Changing platforms.; Message-ID: <3b43342d$1$lllp186$mr2ice@nntp.mindspring.com>   3 In <wS9NLv5ijl4P@malvm5.mala.bc.ca>, on 06/28/2001  A    at 08:59 AM, nothome@spammers.are.scum (Malcolm Dunnett) said:     H >   They've been trying to kill FMS ever since, but so far it won't die.8 >Let's hope the IA64 port isn't what finally does it in.  H FMS can never go away.  If you search through the code and links you can- find all of the new "better" products use it.    Roland --  ; -----------------------------------------------------------  yyyc186@mindspring.com; -----------------------------------------------------------    ------------------------------  % Date: Wed, 04 Jul 2001 14:56:44 +0100 . From: Peter Jackson <peter.jackson@oracle.com>1 Subject: Re: Compaq's Alpha design team for sale? * Message-ID: <3B43209C.26FB3337@oracle.com>   Malcolm Dunnett wrote:  F >    But you then assume that all the existing Alpha products would beJ > ported to a new architecture. There were certainly products on VAX whichG > never got ported - many of the people who are still running VAXen are J > doing so for that very reason. I've heard BASIC almost didn't get portedK > to Alpha - if it hadn't made it we'd still be a VAX shop ( or more likely I > we'd now be running Solaris or something of that ilk ). Some stuff only J > exists because it's been VESTed ( eg FMS ). Will there be a VEST (AEST?)4 > for IA64 than can translate the translated images?  K FMS was one of the first batch of layered products ported to Alpha - it was I needed for ALL-IN-1. TDMS was the screen handler that did not get ported.2   Petere   ------------------------------  $ Date: Wed, 4 Jul 2001 08:16:51 +0200< From: "Martin Vorlaender" <martin.vorlaender@pdv-systeme.de> Subject: Re: CSWS 1.1 & TCPwaree4 Message-ID: <9hucbh$fmr9e$1@ID-56200.news.dfncis.de>   Hi,   ) Drew Shelton <drew@sematech.org> wrote...o< >Martin Vorlaender <martin.vorlaender@pdv-systeme.de> wrote:G >> Import shared translation (APACHE$SHARED_SOCKET) status: 444, max: 0n& >> import of shared socket failed: 444B >> [Tue Jul  3 09:04:12 2001] [crit] (48)address already in use  :+ >>    make_sock: could not bind to port 443g >>: >> The same messages appear with port 80 if I disable SSL. >EH > I saw exactly the same messages, and I also tried disabling SSL. [...]/ > The "fix" is supposed to be DRIVERS 5.1 [...]eH > The fact that you've already installed that patch and it still doesn't > work is rather discouraging.  F I get the same error when disabling SSL and listening on port 8080, soD I think this has nothing to do with the privileged port problem that DRIVERS V5.1 fixed.   F The foremost problem seems to be the logical name APACHE$SHARED_SOCKETJ that somehow is not set (444 = %SYSTEM-F-NOLOGNAM, no logical name match).   cu,n   Martin --J One OS to rule them all       | Martin Vorlaender  |  VMS & WNT programmer7 One OS to find them           | work: mv@pdv-systeme.de  One OS to bring them all      |/( http://www.pdv-systeme.de/users/martinv/> And in the Darkness bind them.| home: martin@radiogaga.harz.de   ------------------------------  # Date: Wed, 04 Jul 2001 12:55:24 GMTo4 From: "Andy Proctor" <aproctor@removeme.hotmail.com> Subject: DEC Net and TCP/IPr4 Message-ID: <994250936.697530@ananke.eclipse.net.uk>   Esteemed experts,rI I have tried to debug this but i'm more familiar with TCP/IP than DECNET.r  H Kit: PWS433au/VMS7.1-1h2/TCPIP5.0 I have applied ECO 2 for tcpip and theI required patches for VMS. Also i run the new Apache based web server fromtL the compaq web site, and have applied the ECO's accordingly. DECnet phase V." Loads of disk space and 128MB RAM.   Problem:J I can SET HOST to any other VMS unit on our network (we don't cluster) butK cannot set host to the unit in question. I can FTP to/from it, I can telnet I to/from it. I use LPR/LPD and that is ok. Although FTP access is slow for J some reason, possibly its the network slowing this, im not sure.However noK matter what i have tried i cannot set host to the unit. I have been througheK net$configure again and again making sure that all is ok. When i set up thecJ host name and number i used the data in the FAQ and all went ok. Any cluesI please on where i can look to try to debug why i am unable to set host to1K the unit. As i said, i'm not too familiar with DECnet so i'm not sure whereV any logs would be. Thanks for any help in advance.. Andy Proctor   ------------------------------  % Date: Wed, 04 Jul 2001 15:17:35 +0200 = From: Oswald Knoppers <Oswald.Knoppers@contrastmediagroep.nl>d Subject: Re: DEC Net and TCP/IP.5 Message-ID: <3B43176F.18139E87@contrastmediagroep.nl>D   Andy Proctor wrote:'  L > I can SET HOST to any other VMS unit on our network (we don't cluster) but+ > cannot set host to the unit in question.    ! So what error message do you get?   E If you change name/address info in the local name space they won't beoD changed (immediately) in the cache. This might be your problem (wild guess). Try:  5 $ mc ncl flush session control naming cache entry "*"e   And do the set host again.   Regards,   Oswald   ------------------------------  % Date: Wed, 04 Jul 2001 14:19:43 +01005  From: steven.reece@quintiles.com Subject: Re: DEC Net and TCP/IPsH Message-ID: <OFD3DC64E5.25D5DB0E-ON80256A7F.0048F807@qedi.quintiles.com>   Andy,rA Can you set host _from_ it?  It might be that the DECnet stack is:@ complaining for some reason, not starting correctly etc etc etc.J It may also be that the address cache is out of date.  Try doing the usual3 mc ncl flush session control naming cache entry "*". Steve.   >>>rI I have tried to debug this but i'm more familiar with TCP/IP than DECNET.T  H Kit: PWS433au/VMS7.1-1h2/TCPIP5.0 I have applied ECO 2 for tcpip and theI required patches for VMS. Also i run the new Apache based web server fromnI the compaq web site, and have applied the ECO's accordingly. DECnet phasee V." Loads of disk space and 128MB RAM.   Problem:J I can SET HOST to any other VMS unit on our network (we don't cluster) but( cannot set host to the unit in question. <<<w   ------------------------------  # Date: Wed, 04 Jul 2001 13:49:34 GMTv4 From: "Andy Proctor" <aproctor@removeme.hotmail.com> Subject: Re: DEC Net and TCP/IP 4 Message-ID: <994254186.461056@ananke.eclipse.net.uk>  - <steven.reece@quintiles.com> wrote in message B news:OFD3DC64E5.25D5DB0E-ON80256A7F.0048F807@qedi.quintiles.com... >p >s > Andy,/C > Can you set host _from_ it?  It might be that the DECnet stack isaB > complaining for some reason, not starting correctly etc etc etc.L > It may also be that the address cache is out of date.  Try doing the usual5 > mc ncl flush session control naming cache entry "*"v > Steve. >7     Steve,  I thanks for the reply. I've just tried that but no joy. When issuing $ SETDL HOST from another unit, nothing. It just sits there. I have checked the restJ of our systems and they all are ok. It's just setting host to this unit. I can get out from it ok.s   Here is an example:t $ set host 2.10     After a couple of minutes i get:  * %SYSTEM-F-LINKEXIT, network partner exited $i  A Not sure where to go now. I have dumped a sh net/full below. It'sn< DECNET-Plus not phase V (shows how much i know about decnet)  H There is some error in this "command failed" but what is is i dont know.  E Thanks for the tip about ultima the other day steve regarding service + contracts, they were the third party i use!,   Cheers   Andy   $ sh net /full  : The following network services are available at this time:  L Product:  DECNET                Manufacturer:  Digital Equipment Corporation2 Node:  GPSSUP                   Address(es):  2.104 Network Type:  DNA V            Interface(s):  net 0   Node 0$ at 2001-07-04-15:42:39.550+01:00Iinf   Identifiersr  5     Name                              = LOCAL:.GPSSUPa'     Address                           =         {           (0           [ DNA_CMIP-MICE ] ,a2           [ DNA_SessionControlV3 , number = 19 ] ,,           [ DNA_OSItransportV1 , 'DEC0'H ] ,;           [ DNA_OSInetwork , 49::00-02:AA-00-04-00-05-08:21  (LOCAL:.GPSSUP) ]e
           ) ,v           (H           [ DNA_CMIP-MICE ] , 2           [ DNA_SessionControlV2 , number = 19 ] ,,           [ DNA_OSItransportV1 , 'DEC0'H ] ,           [ DNA_IP , 0.0.0.0 ]
           ) ,d           (            [ DNA_CMIP-MICE ] ,v2           [ DNA_SessionControlV3 , number = 19 ] ,           [ DNA_NSP ] , ;           [ DNA_OSInetwork , 49::00-02:AA-00-04-00-05-08:20. (LOCAL:.GPSSUP) ]v           )         }   Status  L     UID                               = 562B4000-43CF-11CF-8001-AA0004000508*     State                             = On'     Functions Enabled                 =i        {           Address Watcher ,e           CMIP Listenern        }9     ID                                = 00-00-F8-76-30-23i   Characteristics-  .     Version                           = T5.0.3'     Implementation                    =l        {           [l           Name = OpenVMS AXP ,           Version = "V7.1-1H2"
           ] ,r           [h*           Name = DECnet-Plus for OpenVMS ,E           Version = "DECnet-Plus for OpenVMS Version V7.1 16-NOV-1996l
 01:46:45.1 8"           ]e        }7     Script Location                   = <Default value>l)     Maximum Listeners                 = 0I7     Listener Template                 = <Default value>n'     Secondary Names                   =b        {        }   Counters  I     Creation Time                     = 1995-12-31-23:00:00.000+00:00Iinft)     Renames                           = 8y*     Changes of ID                     = 66)     IDROM Check Failures              = 0i)     Changes of Address                = 0t     Node 0 Session Control Port * $ at 2001-07-04-15:42:39.606+01:00Iinf   command failed due to:  no such object instance     Node 0 Session Control$ at 2001-07-04-15:42:39.651+01:00Iinf   Counters  I     Creation Time                     = 2001-06-26-10:49:01.814+01:00Iinfw)     Access Control Violations         = 0x)     Backtranslation Deletions         = 0a)     Deleted Maintained Objects        = 0=)     Dangling Links                    = 0=%     Verification Failures         = 0l  L Product:  TCP/IP                Manufacturer:  Digital Equipment Corporation9 Node:  gpssup.gssl.co.uk        Address(es):  10.24.1.210-- Network Type:  TCP/IP           Interface(s):   A   DIGITAL TCP/IP Services for OpenVMS Alpha Version V5.0A - ECO 2D=   on a Digital Personal WorkStation  running OpenVMS V7.1-1H2o  =                             Port                       Remoted< Device_socket  Type    Local  Remote  Service           Host  >   bg3         STREAM     515       0  LPD              0.0.0.0>   bg4         STREAM     513       0  RLOGIN           0.0.0.0>   bg5         STREAM      23       0  TELNET           0.0.0.0>   bg8         STREAM      80       0                   0.0.0.0A   bg248       STREAM      23    3661  TELNET           10.24.1.96i   Communication Parameters  < Local host:      gpssup                 Domain:   gssl.co.uk  @                                  Maximum     Current        Peak( Proxies                               20     Remote Terminalh   Large buffers:           0   UCBs:                    0   Virtual term:     disabled   ------------------------------  % Date: Wed, 04 Jul 2001 10:59:57 -0400t2 From: rdeininger@mindspring.com (Robert Deininger) Subject: Re: DEC Net and TCP/IPnL Message-ID: <rdeininger-0407011059580001@user-2ive7io.dialup.mindspring.com>  C In article <994254186.461056@ananke.eclipse.net.uk>, "Andy Proctor"0& <aproctor@removeme.hotmail.com> wrote:  / > <steven.reece@quintiles.com> wrote in messageeD > news:OFD3DC64E5.25D5DB0E-ON80256A7F.0048F807@qedi.quintiles.com... > >o > > 	 > > Andy,<E > > Can you set host _from_ it?  It might be that the DECnet stack iseD > > complaining for some reason, not starting correctly etc etc etc.N > > It may also be that the address cache is out of date.  Try doing the usual7 > > mc ncl flush session control naming cache entry "*"i
 > > Steve. > >0 >  >  > Steve, > K > thanks for the reply. I've just tried that but no joy. When issuing $ SET N > HOST from another unit, nothing. It just sits there. I have checked the restL > of our systems and they all are ok. It's just setting host to this unit. I > can get out from it ok.  >  > Here is an example:  > $ set host 2.10- > " > After a couple of minutes i get: > , > %SYSTEM-F-LINKEXIT, network partner exited > $> > C > Not sure where to go now. I have dumped a sh net/full below. It'sr> > DECNET-Plus not phase V (shows how much i know about decnet)  G DECnet-plus and DECnet phase V are two names for the same thing.  Well,rJ maybe DECnet-plus is the name of the product, and phase V is the protocol,1 but for most folks the terms are interchangeable.r  B Is the node trying to SET HOST running DECnet phase IV or phase V?  # On 2.10, what happens when you try:S SET HOST 0 ? SET HOST LOCAL:.GPSSUP ?$ SET HOST DOMAIN:.gpssup.gssl.co.uk ?  I Are there routers or other pesky things between the nodes, which might beaC blocking DECnet traffic?  This is a favorite trick of thick-skulledm network weenies.  G It looks like your system knew (or thought it knew) who to contact, and F tried, but the connection was never completed.  After a while it timed# out, and you got the message above.t  I If both machines are running DECnet-plus, you can use DECnet-over-tcpip. dD This is more likely to survive the whims of the network police.  ButE several things need to be configured right to make it work.  Possible4H problems can be the namespace configuration, the naming search path, andI the tcp/ip name translation stuff.  Also, your TCP/IP package has to havet? the PWIP driver configured and active.  If you are trying to doa> DECnet-over-tcpip, we'll have to ask you a few more questions.  J > There is some error in this "command failed" but what is is i dont know. > G > Thanks for the tip about ultima the other day steve regarding service-- > contracts, they were the third party i use!r >  > Cheers >  > Andy >  > $ sh net /full > < > The following network services are available at this time: > N > Product:  DECNET                Manufacturer:  Digital Equipment Corporation4 > Node:  GPSSUP                   Address(es):  2.106 > Network Type:  DNA V            Interface(s):  net 0 >  > Node 0& > at 2001-07-04-15:42:39.550+01:00Iinf > 
 > Identifiers. > 7 >     Name                              = LOCAL:.GPSSUP!) >     Address                           =d
 >        {
 >           (  >           [ DNA_CMIP-MICE ] ,W4 >           [ DNA_SessionControlV3 , number = 19 ] ,. >           [ DNA_OSItransportV1 , 'DEC0'H ] ,= >           [ DNA_OSInetwork , 49::00-02:AA-00-04-00-05-08:21e > (LOCAL:.GPSSUP) ]o >           ) ,c
 >           (f >           [ DNA_CMIP-MICE ] ,-4 >           [ DNA_SessionControlV2 , number = 19 ] ,. >           [ DNA_OSItransportV1 , 'DEC0'H ] ,  >           [ DNA_IP , 0.0.0.0 ] >           ) ,a
 >           (o >           [ DNA_CMIP-MICE ] , 4 >           [ DNA_SessionControlV3 , number = 19 ] , >           [ DNA_NSP ] ,t= >           [ DNA_OSInetwork , 49::00-02:AA-00-04-00-05-08:20n > (LOCAL:.GPSSUP) ]e
 >           )n
 >        }  G Ok, the system appears to have address info to respond to the DECnet-IVnI protocol (DNA_NSP), the DECnet-plus/OSI protocol, and DECnet-over-tcpip. iJ The DNA-IP address _should_ be the real IP address instead of 0.0.0.0, andC some folks say this means the PWIP driver isn't loaded.  But I have|H systems that work perfectly, and DNA_IP is always 0.0.0.0; I don't think this is a reliable indicator.t     >  > Status > N >     UID                               = 562B4000-43CF-11CF-8001-AA0004000508, >     State                             = On) >     Functions Enabled                 =n
 >        { >           Address Watcher ,f >           CMIP Listener 
 >        }; >     ID                                = 00-00-F8-76-30-23  >  > Characteristics  > 0 >     Version                           = T5.0.3) >     Implementation                    = 
 >        {
 >           [-  >           Name = OpenVMS AXP ,  >           Version = "V7.1-1H2" >           ] ,R
 >           [t, >           Name = DECnet-Plus for OpenVMS ,G >           Version = "DECnet-Plus for OpenVMS Version V7.1 16-NOV-19960 > 01:46:45.1 > 8"
 >           ]e
 >        }9 >     Script Location                   = <Default value>l+ >     Maximum Listeners                 = 0L9 >     Listener Template                 = <Default value>M) >     Secondary Names                   = 
 >        {
 >        } > 
 > Counters > K >     Creation Time                     = 1995-12-31-23:00:00.000+00:00Iinf-+ >     Renames                           = 8p, >     Changes of ID                     = 66+ >     IDROM Check Failures              = 0-+ >     Changes of Address                = 04 >  >  > Node 0 Session Control Port *s& > at 2001-07-04-15:42:39.606+01:00Iinf >  > command failed due to: >  no such object instance  H I think this just means there are no connections at the moment.  I'm not# sure this is a symptom, or a cause.    -- d Robert Deininger rdeininger@mindspring.comp   ------------------------------  % Date: Wed, 04 Jul 2001 16:06:23 +0000   From: Steve.Spires@yellgroup.com Subject: Re: DEC Net and TCP/IPI/ Message-ID: <00256A7F.00587AE5.00@quegw01.btyp>d  L Contact:   Tel: 3063  -  IS - Infrastructure, 1st Floor, Bridge Street Plaza     Andy,m  O Try doing the following from a node from which you are trying to set host from;)   $ MC NCL' NCL> SET NCL DEFAULT ENTITY NODE GPSSUPr NCL> some other NCL command?  ; Just to see if you can do a connect from a different level.o   Steve Spires   ------------------------------  % Date: Wed, 04 Jul 2001 08:31:10 -07002! From: Tom Linden <tom@kednos.com>- Subject: RE: DEC Net and TCP/IP 9 Message-ID: <CIEJLCMNHNNDLLOOGNJIGEKOCOAA.tom@kednos.com>r  K I have been watching this with interest because I rebooted a node yesterday@G and have experienced similar problems.  I was having some problems withe	 anonymousiK ftp under tcpip5.1 (on 7.3)  (similar to what freddy was experiencing a fews	 days ago)CE and somebody from Compaq was helping me.  It appears they made a typoe	 somewhere[K because the startup.log has an NCP compalint Circuit = EWA-0.  It should ofc course be EWA0. F This node is running Phase IV.  I did a brute search for the offending entry, but nada,F so it must be encoded somewhere.  Hod do I fix it?  Is it through NCP?     > -----Original Message-----F > From: Steve.Spires@yellgroup.com [mailto:Steve.Spires@yellgroup.com]( > Sent: Wednesday, July 04, 2001 9:06 AM > To: Info-VAX@Mvb.Saic.Com ! > Subject: Re: DEC Net and TCP/IP  >0 >oA > Contact:   Tel: 3063  -  IS - Infrastructure, 1st Floor, Bridgeh > Street Plaza >x >  > Andy,o >oB > Try doing the following from a node from which you are trying to > set host from; >4
 > $ MC NCL) > NCL> SET NCL DEFAULT ENTITY NODE GPSSUP  > NCL> some other NCL commande >l= > Just to see if you can do a connect from a different level.  >d > Steve Spires >o >    ------------------------------  # Date: Wed, 04 Jul 2001 17:05:12 GMTe0 From: John Santos <john.santos@post.harvard.edu> Subject: RE: DEC Net and TCP/IPe> Message-ID: <MPG.15ad16b1d428c89b989685@news.bellatlantic.net>  I In article <CIEJLCMNHNNDLLOOGNJIGEKOCOAA.tom@kednos.com>, tom@kednos.com C says...TM > I have been watching this with interest because I rebooted a node yesterdaysI > and have experienced similar problems.  I was having some problems withT > anonymousSM > ftp under tcpip5.1 (on 7.3)  (similar to what freddy was experiencing a fewh > days ago)lG > and somebody from Compaq was helping me.  It appears they made a typoh > somewherehM > because the startup.log has an NCP compalint Circuit = EWA-0.  It should ofb > course be EWA0.T  F No, EWA-0 is probably correct.  DECNET uses a different device naming  convention from VMS.  H > This node is running Phase IV.  I did a brute search for the offending > entry, but nada,H > so it must be encoded somewhere.  Hod do I fix it?  Is it through NCP?  G In NCP, do a SHOW KNOWN CIRCUIT CHARACTERISTICS and LIST KNOWN CIRCUIT  F CHAR  (SHOW shows the current active status.  LIST shows the permanent( status that is remember across reboots.)  G If the circuit (probably EWA-0) shows up in LIST, but not in SHOW, thenoF it didn't start correctly.  Try SET CIRCUIT xxx-n (probably EWA-0) ALL# and see what error message you get.   C There are also LINES (lower level on the protocol stack), that alsohG need to be set up correctly.  SHOW KNOWN LINE CHAR and LIST KNOWN LINE   CHAR to get info on those.  E If you have more than one line/circuit pair, you need to be running ajD router (DVNETRTG license) vs. an end node (DVNETEND license) to haveF more than one active at a time.  I don't remember how it decides which@ line & circuit to activate if you have more than one and only anA end-node license.  It is possible to have multiple circuits on an E end-node, and have it fail-over to a 2nd circuit if the primary dies. E So it may be that everything is working fine, but DECNET is trying touA use the wrong circuit, i.e. one that isn't connected to anything,eB and you just need to stop that circuit (SET CIRC xxx-n STATE OFF).   HTH-   -- - John   ------------------------------  * Date: Wed, 4 Jul 2001 11:54:44 +0000 (UTC), From: Pawel Krawczyk <anti_kravietz@ceti.pl>& Subject: DECnet performance with Linux, Message-ID: <9hv064$e7i$1@druid.ceti.com.pl>  < I've set up a test network with VMS 5.4 on MicroVAX 3500 and? Linux 2.4 with DECnet on the other end, all over Ethernet. I'vet> been trying to copy files between the two and everything worksE up to files of about 200 KB, when performance degrades significantly.eA Files below that size go very fast, above they stop at some pointT> and drop bit by bit, as I can observer the packets on tcpdump.  D I've searched through documentation and archives, but only parameterA I've found was PIPELINE QUOTA and it's set to 10000 on VAX. Otherc@ sources suggested timing mismatch between the nodes, but I'm notD sure how to check it. I'll appreciate any suggestions how to fix it.   -- s4 Pawe Krawczyk *** home: <http://ceti.pl/~kravietz/>3 security: <http://ipsec.pl/>  *** fidonet: 2:486/23    ------------------------------  # Date: Wed, 04 Jul 2001 15:59:51 GMTo From: LBohan@dbc.spam_less..comI* Subject: Re: DECnet performance with Linux8 Message-ID: <54f6kt4btqph4f5n8i4pc9re891pj719r9@4ax.com>  7 On Wed, 4 Jul 2001 11:54:44 +0000 (UTC), Pawel Krawczykn <anti_kravietz@ceti.pl> wrote:  = >I've set up a test network with VMS 5.4 on MicroVAX 3500 andi@ >Linux 2.4 with DECnet on the other end, all over Ethernet. I've? >been trying to copy files between the two and everything worksyF >up to files of about 200 KB, when performance degrades significantly.B >Files below that size go very fast, above they stop at some point? >and drop bit by bit, as I can observer the packets on tcpdump.h >.E >I've searched through documentation and archives, but only parameterlB >I've found was PIPELINE QUOTA and it's set to 10000 on VAX. OtherA >sources suggested timing mismatch between the nodes, but I'm notoE >sure how to check it. I'll appreciate any suggestions how to fix it.o  > does the performance drop at 200KB, happen in both directions  (to/from ...)..   : and to clarify, at some size above 200KB,  the copy speed 1 degrades so badly,  the copy fails all together ?k   ------------------------------  * Date: Wed, 4 Jul 2001 17:16:08 +0000 (UTC), From: Pawel Krawczyk <anti_kravietz@ceti.pl>* Subject: Re: DECnet performance with Linux, Message-ID: <9hvj0o$s8d$1@druid.ceti.com.pl>    LBohan@dbc.spam_less..com wrote:  @ > does the performance drop at 200KB, happen in both directions  > (to/from ...)..   ' I have only tested Linux->VAX direction   < > and to clarify, at some size above 200KB,  the copy speed 3 > degrades so badly,  the copy fails all together ?   J After 200 KB something was going, but one packet every 10 seconds. I'm notH sure if it was data, tcpdump identified it as some link control packets,. different from the data that was going before.  < I've already got reply from DECnet/Linux maintainer, PatrickH Caulfield.  He instructed me to change one Linux kernel variable, namelyG NSP_MAX_WINDOW from default 2046 to 1 and this helped. Those of you who < know DECnet will probably know exactly what was the problem.  : Just for summary, the fix for 2.4 Linux kernels is to edit* /usr/src/linux/include/net/dn.h and change   #define NSP_MAX_WINDOW	(0x07fe)     to:   #define NSP_MAX_WINDOW	(1)   And recompile kernel/modules.-   -- 84 Pawe Krawczyk *** home: <http://ceti.pl/~kravietz/>3 security: <http://ipsec.pl/>  *** fidonet: 2:486/230   ------------------------------  % Date: Wed, 04 Jul 2001 12:16:20 +0100 % From: Alan Greig <a.greig@virgin.net>i# Subject: DECWORLD 2001 Byte article 8 Message-ID: <uiu5ktg8e6r5a0e1hvotsj71tbmeg4lqjm@4ax.com>  , DEC no longer exists, Byte no longer exists?  D But you can still read the Byte review of DECworld 2001 by Lou Greer at? http://www.byte.com/documents/s=716/byt20010622s0005/greer.htmla   -- Alan   ------------------------------  # Date: Wed, 04 Jul 2001 12:33:43 GMT 7 From: "Henry W. Miller" <henry.miller@worldnet.att.net> ' Subject: Re: DECWORLD 2001 Byte article6G Message-ID: <H2E07.29971$J91.998228@bgtnsc06-news.ops.worldnet.att.net>   2 "Alan Greig" <a.greig@virgin.net> wrote in message2 news:uiu5ktg8e6r5a0e1hvotsj71tbmeg4lqjm@4ax.com... > . > DEC no longer exists, Byte no longer exists? > F > But you can still read the Byte review of DECworld 2001 by Lou Greer > atA > http://www.byte.com/documents/s=716/byt20010622s0005/greer.html  >  > -- > Alan       Ain't technology wonderful?    -HWM   ------------------------------  $ Date: Wed, 4 Jul 2001 08:39:42 -0700* From: "Jack Peacock" <peacock@simconv.com>' Subject: Re: DECWORLD 2001 Byte article04 Message-ID: <dPG07.4724$Ib.492660@news1.primary.net>  B "Henry W. Miller" <henry.miller@worldnet.att.net> wrote in messageA news:H2E07.29971$J91.998228@bgtnsc06-news.ops.worldnet.att.net...6 >:! >     Ain't technology wonderful?n >lD It's probably from that parallel universe.  You remember, the one onE Star Trek where Spock had a beard.  I've heard a rumor they even have @ this really fast CPU called the Alpha, but it only runs TOPS-64.   Jack Peacock   ------------------------------  # Date: Wed, 04 Jul 2001 06:56:34 GMTc From: dittman@dittman.net0. Subject: Difference between an 8820 and 8820-N> Message-ID: <C6z07.5242$AM.150454@e420r-sjo3.usenetserver.com>  8 Is the only difference between an 8820 and an 8820-N the: console system?  From the document the 8820 has a MicroVAX: II and the 8820-N has a Pro380.  What card was used as the$ system interface in the MicroVAX II? --   Eric Dittman dittman@dittman.net    ------------------------------   Date: 4 Jul 2001 05:47:35 -0700 + From: rob.johnson@bigfoot.com (Rob Johnson)0/ Subject: Re: EMC fibre disk on ES40 + VMS 7.2-1 < Message-ID: <8b460d3f.0107040447.958967c@posting.google.com>  , Thanks to all  who replied to this question.4 I finally persuaded EMC to swap the switch for a new one. Everything fine now!s   Cheers,  Rob.   ------------------------------  % Date: Wed, 04 Jul 2001 10:03:23 +0100 8 From: John Macallister <J.Macallister1@physics.ox.ac.uk>) Subject: RE: Full port of VMS to Itanium. N Message-ID: <35666012DF4CD411BE940090279FA240010BEFF0@ppnt41.physics.ox.ac.uk>  / > Meanwhile, Compaq is taking a calculated riskn  J Every move, every new product launch is a calculated risk. That's business for you ...4  L In the end it's neither the quality, style nor ruggedness of the hardware orK software engineering which determines success but whether a product meets arL user's needs. The World is littered with failed products and even companies:G there are piles of old, broken SUN workstations everywhere. It may be a I while before existing Alpha systems break but they'll have to be replaced 7 eventually not with UNIX SUNs but with iVMS or similar.t  L There's one irrefutable fact about UNIX. No end-user has ever requested UNIXH as the preferred OS to run any application. It's probably even true thatL most users don't care about the OS but when people are faced with a cloud ofL gobbledegook to perform even the simplest task ( That's UNIX for you! ) theyK don't want to know. The successful products will be the ones which are easyjJ to use. UNIX will never provide that. UNIX is widespread mainly because ofE its early open exposure to computer scientists. VMS offers one of the:K easiest OS environments for anyone to assimilate and iVMS could ensure thate' this OS will also meet users' needs ...e  J Everything now depends on how iVMS is handled and promoted over the comingJ months. Compaq will be in a position to make significant inroads into both- the ENTERPRISE and HOME markets with iVMS ...    John  B Name: John B. Macallister  E-mail: j.macallister1@physics.ox.ac.ukH Post: Nuclear and Astrophysics Laboratory, Keble Road, Oxford OX1 3RH,UKA Phone: +44-1865-273388 (direct)  273333 (reception)  273418 (Fax)P   ------------------------------  % Date: Wed, 04 Jul 2001 10:54:05 +0100p8 From: John Macallister <J.Macallister1@physics.ox.ac.uk>) Subject: RE: Full port of VMS to Itanium. N Message-ID: <35666012DF4CD411BE940090279FA240010BEFF1@ppnt41.physics.ox.ac.uk>  > >At JPL (Jet Propulsion Laboratory), we just ported a military0 >simulation from VAX/VMS to Intel-based Linux.    D I'm relieved it was a simulation. Now you'll never know how the real application will behave.  : >Most OpenVMS applications can be ported to Linux with the >right approach;  E With the right approach (i.e. commitment of effort and resources) anys1 application can be ported from one OS to another.r   >Please be open-minded.m  I I think I'll remain open-eyed and open-eared from now on if your military   applications are to run on UNIX.  I I've never had a blind commitment to any particular OS. If a package does. the job well I'll use it.n   John    B Name: John B. Macallister  E-mail: j.macallister1@physics.ox.ac.ukH Post: Nuclear and Astrophysics Laboratory, Keble Road, Oxford OX1 3RH,UKA Phone: +44-1865-273388 (direct)  273333 (reception)  273418 (Fax)u   ------------------------------  % Date: Wed, 04 Jul 2001 12:51:58 +0100 / From: Nigel Arnot <sysmgr@maxwell.ph.kcl.ac.uk>g, Subject: re:  I didn't stick it upside down!6 Message-ID: <009FE810.931B0CCF.4@maxwell.ph.kcl.ac.uk>   >  > zessin@decus.de wrote: > > + > > http://www.decus.de/~zessin/pic/sbb.jpg0 > >  > > -- > > Uwe Zessin > " > B-mazing (a step beyond Amazing) >   E ROFL. Was this a manufacturing, a field circus, or an in-house jape?      L Actually, it's not hard and should be every bit as reliable as a normal one.  ; All you do is ping the front off the storageworks canister ,H ( not easy!) and then if the connections are wires rather than flexible A printed circuit stuff, rotate it 180 degrees and push it back on.M  F You might succeed with the flexi printed circuit stuff as well, but an- engineer would call that seriously bad taste.   B Disclaimer: if you try this trick and it doesn't turn out well for+ you, I accept absolutely no responsibility.e   Nigel.   ------------------------------  % Date: Wed, 04 Jul 2001 12:58:28 +0100t  From: steven.reece@quintiles.com+ Subject: re: I didn't stick it upside down! H Message-ID: <OFE0D71154.B1E277C5-ON80256A7F.00416839@qedi.quintiles.com>  D I've done the flexi (accidentally, I didn't have another canister to5 compare it with at the time) and it came out working.  Last time I checked.....  K Besides, would the field service person _really_ take exception (an invalid  one or otherwise)? :-)l   Steve.  @ >You might succeed with the flexi printed circuit stuff as well,5 >but an engineer would call that seriously bad taste.    ------------------------------   Date: 4 Jul 2001 10:51:43 -0700 ' From: ia64prince@hotmail.com (ia64 dog)n  Subject: Re: IA64 Rocks My World= Message-ID: <9815abf6.0107040951.3153024c@posting.google.com>    Hey!!!!     A      You know in many ways it is much better than the fate of therE abandoned dog I saw this morning. Its owner took this old dog removed D the collar and left it on the streets. I am sure Animal shelter will take good care of it.S  @      At least Compaq had the decency to take it to Intel. It mayB survive and maybe even thrive. I feel more sorry for the dog. Stop whining!    B > Wait, I take that back.  I was wrong to think Alpha is better.  ? > Just because it was "higher" "performance"... "faster", more  ? > "scalable", more "reliable", and just plain sexier...doesn't  0 > mean we were right to defy the Light..Intel... > ? > I thank everyone for their poems and consolation.  The Intel  4 > Lobotomy Probe (ILP) (TM) (C) didn't hurt at all.. >  > Sincerly,9 >  > Andy Grove's Bitch,I >  > IA69QUEENe >   > PS I Like EPIC Sized Hardware.   ------------------------------  % Date: Wed, 04 Jul 2001 12:17:49 -0600  From: yyyc186@mindspring.com2 Subject: Re: lsedit or whatever xwindow on my pc ?; Message-ID: <3b435e95$1$lllp186$mr2ice@nntp.mindspring.com>   2 In <9hg1ee$6pg$1@news.process.com>, on 06/28/2001 5    at 03:41 PM, "Chuck Viau" <viau@process.com> said:h  I spend days/weeks/months downloading a really shitty OS known as Linux foriJ free and it's Xwindows front end.  Then spend days/weeks/months getting itI configured to actually connect ___correctly___ via TCP/IP to your alpha. :J Then cross your fingers about it's emulation.   That's the free way, where= your time is absolutely ****ing worthless.  Welcome to Linux.g  G The correct way is to __purchase__ an Xwindows terminal package, eitherhJ KEA or Reflections.  Spend about 5 minutes opening the box, installing the' software, and clicking on the settings.?  E If you are running OS/2 you can download some Xwindows terminals from  Hobbes.    Roland    >Chuck Viau wrote in message ...* >>DEC eXcursion (notice: DEC , Not compaq)  >>Chris Sharman wrote in message9 >><993722070.1981.0.nnrp-08.9e989e7e@news.demon.co.uk>...AL >>>For my sins (apparently multitudinous) I have a new desktop, owing to theC >>>need to read/write Office compatible documents & browse the web.a >>>sM >>>What's the best (cheap/free) way to run an xwindow on my PC, running, say,r >>>lsedit, or perfmeter. >>>a< >>>Or would there be a better place to ask these questions ? >>> M >>>Of course, it may all be immaterial - I was planning to place an order for=# >>>new Alpha/VMS boxes next week :(0 >>>h
 >>>Thanks, >>>Chris Sharman >>>  >>>t >> >>     -- o; -----------------------------------------------------------  yyyc186@mindspring.com; -----------------------------------------------------------.   ------------------------------   Date: 4 Jul 2001 02:20:21 -0700n' From: subodh_sd@infy.com (Subodh Damle)V" Subject: Need XML Parser for C/C++= Message-ID: <e18dc10e.0107040120.350b7304@posting.google.com>s   Hi,e? Does anyone know any XML Parser for C/C++ available under VMS ? L Alternatively, has anyone tried porting any parser library for UNIX to VMS ?   Thanks,C Subodh.C   ------------------------------  $ Date: Wed, 4 Jul 2001 11:46:41 +0200< From: "Martin Vorlaender" <martin.vorlaender@pdv-systeme.de>& Subject: Re: Need XML Parser for C/C++4 Message-ID: <9huokr$fks7j$1@ID-56200.news.dfncis.de>   Subodh Damle wrote...n@ >Does anyone know any XML Parser for C/C++ available under VMS ?K >Alternatively, has anyone tried porting any parser library for UNIX to VMSc ?<    E I haven't yet had the time to look into Compaq's port of Xerces/Xalan E (http://www.openvms.compaq.com/openvms/products/ips/xml/) , but expatrF v1.95.1 (http://expat.sourceforge.net/) doesn't need too much tweaking to get compiled under VMS.   cu,    Martin --J One OS to rule them all       | Martin Vorlaender  |  VMS & WNT programmer7 One OS to find them           | work: mv@pdv-systeme.dea One OS to bring them all      |h( http://www.pdv-systeme.de/users/martinv/> And in the Darkness bind them.| home: martin@radiogaga.harz.de   ------------------------------  * Date: Wed, 4 Jul 2001 11:44:28 +0000 (UTC)' From: david20@alpha1.mdx.ac.uk (D.Webb) & Subject: Re: Need XML Parser for C/C+++ Message-ID: <9huvis$8h1$1@aquila.mdx.ac.uk>.  g In article <e18dc10e.0107040120.350b7304@posting.google.com>, subodh_sd@infy.com (Subodh Damle) writes:R >Hi,@ >Does anyone know any XML Parser for C/C++ available under VMS ?M >Alternatively, has anyone tried porting any parser library for UNIX to VMS ?A >  >Thanks, >Subodh.   Seen  7 http://www.openvms.compaq.com/openvms/products/ips/xml/x  / for a C++ based parser and a JAVA based parser.e    
 David Webb VMS and Unix team leader CCSS Middlesex University   ------------------------------  + Date: Wed, 04 Jul 2001 11:38:08 -0800 (PST)I$ From: "Ingemar Olson"@dairyworld.com Subject: Nodenames in clusterr/ Message-ID: <01K5J5QNUE7O90NMI5@dairyworld.com>E  H I'd like to be able to determine the names of the nodes that exist / are$ available in the cluster (from DCL).  L If I use f$getsyi I can use the cluster_nodes argument to determine whether I I'm in a cluster. But if I want to know what the other nodes are, then itoL seems I've got to have a list of nodenames before I can check whether any of% them are part of the present cluster.E  N Seems there should be a way of finding the other node names if I don't already know what they are.    What am I missing here?    TIAx   ------------------------------  % Date: Wed, 04 Jul 2001 12:22:09 -0600a From: yyyc186@mindspring.com* Subject: Re: Planet of the Apes comes true; Message-ID: <3b435f05$2$lllp186$mr2ice@nntp.mindspring.com>-  D In <3b3d868a.11686039@newshost.netscapeonline.co.uk>, on 06/28/2001 <    at 07:53 PM, peterw@u.genie.co.uk (Peter Watkinson) said:  E The mutants would be the VBX virus writers...revealing the inner mostw$ blatant frauds of M$Office products.  # >Inhell and M$ dominate the market s  & >Gates trains monkeys to use billyshit   >Apes take over the worldt  J >I guess that means Gates and Barrett must be those Orangutans in disguise  J >I guess this must mean that Bulmer is one of those Gorillas with the guns  6 >As for Capellas he must be a baboon which makes sense  I >Picture Charlton Heston at the end of the film on his knees on the beachw >before the Statue of Libertyn  7 >Whyyyyyyyyyyyyyy......................................m  F >As for those Mutants with the bomb in the return to the Planet of the! >Apes any Suggetsions? Sun maybe?-       >Peter Watkinson >Email: peterw@u.genie.co.uk) >Internet: http://you.genie.co.uk/peterw/DE >Windsurf International.com http://www.windsurf-international.com/ PWj( >Navigate.com http://www.pwnavigate.com/     --  ; -----------------------------------------------------------v yyyc186@mindspring.com; -----------------------------------------------------------    ------------------------------  % Date: Wed, 04 Jul 2001 09:43:55 -0300t) From: fabio_compaq@ep-bc.petrobras.com.bro( Subject: PointSecure site was hacked ???L Message-ID: <OF8EC5D063.985E1776-ON03256A7F.0045D93D@ep-bc.petrobras.com.br>  < I believe someone is making terrorism with OpenVMS companies  ) Try to access http://www.pointsecure.com/i   Regardsi   FC   ------------------------------   Date: 4 Jul 2001 09:20:04 -050007 From: hamilton@encompasserve.org (Bradford J. Hamilton)e, Subject: Re: PointSecure site was hacked ???3 Message-ID: <+lF3yl+au5cN@eisner.encompasserve.org>   	 Hi Fabio,r  H What seems to be the problem?  All looks OK from here (USA, East Coast).   --Brad    y >In article <OF8EC5D063.985E1776-ON03256A7F.0045D93D@ep-bc.petrobras.com.br>, fabio_compaq@ep-bc.petrobras.com.br writes:-> > I believe someone is making terrorism with OpenVMS companies > + > Try to access http://www.pointsecure.com/e > 	 > Regardsi >  > FC >    ------------------------------  % Date: Wed, 04 Jul 2001 14:39:36 +0000:  From: Steve.Spires@yellgroup.com, Subject: Re: PointSecure site was hacked ???/ Message-ID: <00256A7F.00508A0F.00@quegw01.btyp>o  L Contact:   Tel: 3063  -  IS - Infrastructure, 1st Floor, Bridge Street Plaza     Okay from the UK as well...t   Steve Sf        K hamilton@encompasserve.org (Bradford J. Hamilton) on 07/04/2001 02:20:04 PMw    To:        Info-VAX@Mvb.Saic.Com+ cc:         (bcc: Steve Spires/YellowPages)dO From:      hamilton@encompasserve.org (Bradford J. Hamilton), 4 July 2001, 2:20,            p.m.l  # Re: PointSecure site was hacked ???x        	 Hi Fabio,a  H What seems to be the problem?  All looks OK from here (USA, East Coast).   --Brad    M >In article <OF8EC5D063.985E1776-ON03256A7F.0045D93D@ep-bc.petrobras.com.br>, + fabio_compaq@ep-bc.petrobras.com.br writes:n> > I believe someone is making terrorism with OpenVMS companies > + > Try to access http://www.pointsecure.com/e >p	 > Regardsm >l > FC >-   ------------------------------  % Date: Wed, 04 Jul 2001 10:29:51 -0300/) From: fabio_compaq@ep-bc.petrobras.com.br-, Subject: Re: PointSecure site was hacked ???L Message-ID: <OFAA2C9487.216B0531-ON03256A7F.004A0CE3@ep-bc.petrobras.com.br>  5 I am connecting to the homepage and it is appearing :7  >  Name                    Last modified       Size  DescriptionP --------------------------------------------------------------------------------1  Parent Directory        15-Jun-2000 01:46      -g1  Get out of here/        20-Jun-2001 17:01      --    P --------------------------------------------------------------------------------  5 Apache/1.3.14 Server at phatchat.phatchip.com Port 806       RegardsH   FC        H hamilton@encompasserve.org (Bradford J. Hamilton) em 04/07/2001 11:20:04  C Favor responder a hamilton@encompasserve.org (Bradford J. Hamilton)o             Info-VAX@Mvb.Saic.Comy      , Assunto: Re: PointSecure site was hacked ???    	 Hi Fabio,o  H What seems to be the problem?  All looks OK from here (USA, East Coast).   --Brad     >In article A <OF8EC5D063.985E1776-ON03256A7F.0045D93D@ep-bc.petrobras.com.br>,-+ fabio_compaq@ep-bc.petrobras.com.br writes:l> > I believe someone is making terrorism with OpenVMS companies >u+ > Try to access http://www.pointsecure.com/g >D	 > Regards2 >b > FC >e   ------------------------------   Date: 4 Jul 2001 10:37:01 -0500 7 From: hamilton@encompasserve.org (Bradford J. Hamilton)w, Subject: Re: PointSecure site was hacked ???3 Message-ID: <9MQIJtKMKk+v@eisner.encompasserve.org>a  	 Hi Fabio,.  P Are you trying to access the site by its IP address, rather than through DNS???:    0 EISNER::HAMILTON$ nslookup phatchat.phatchip.com Server:  LOCALHOST Address:  127.0.0.1k   Name:    PHATCHAT.PHATCHIP.COM Address:  63.149.157.911  0 EISNER::HAMILTON$ nslookup pointsecure.com       Server:  LOCALHOST Address:  127.0.0.1e   Name:    POINTSECURE.COM Address:  63.149.157.92e   EISNER::HAMILTON$    --Brad    y >In article <OFAA2C9487.216B0531-ON03256A7F.004A0CE3@ep-bc.petrobras.com.br>, fabio_compaq@ep-bc.petrobras.com.br writes: 7 > I am connecting to the homepage and it is appearing :V > @ >  Name                    Last modified       Size  DescriptionR > --------------------------------------------------------------------------------3 >  Parent Directory        15-Jun-2000 01:46      - 3 >  Get out of here/        20-Jun-2001 17:01      -i >  > R > -------------------------------------------------------------------------------- > 7 > Apache/1.3.14 Server at phatchat.phatchip.com Port 80s >  >  > 	 > Regards- >  > FC >  >  >  > J > hamilton@encompasserve.org (Bradford J. Hamilton) em 04/07/2001 11:20:04 > E > Favor responder a hamilton@encompasserve.org (Bradford J. Hamilton)3 >  >  >  >       Info-VAX@Mvb.Saic.Comt >  >  > . > Assunto: Re: PointSecure site was hacked ??? >  >  > Hi Fabio,  > J > What seems to be the problem?  All looks OK from here (USA, East Coast). >  > --Brad >  >  >>In articleC > <OF8EC5D063.985E1776-ON03256A7F.0045D93D@ep-bc.petrobras.com.br>,w- > fabio_compaq@ep-bc.petrobras.com.br writes:e? >> I believe someone is making terrorism with OpenVMS companiesa >>, >> Try to access http://www.pointsecure.com/ >>
 >> Regards >> >> FCe >> >  >  >  >  >  >    ------------------------------  % Date: Wed, 04 Jul 2001 11:01:53 -0400n2 From: rdeininger@mindspring.com (Robert Deininger), Subject: Re: PointSecure site was hacked ???L Message-ID: <rdeininger-0407011101530001@user-2ive7io.dialup.mindspring.com>  
 In articleA <OFAA2C9487.216B0531-ON03256A7F.004A0CE3@ep-bc.petrobras.com.br>,c* fabio_compaq@ep-bc.petrobras.com.br wrote:  7 > I am connecting to the homepage and it is appearing :  > @ >  Name                    Last modified       Size  Description >oP --------------------------------------------------------------------------------3 >  Parent Directory        15-Jun-2000 01:46      -e3 >  Get out of here/        20-Jun-2001 17:01      -i >  >  >MP -------------------------------------------------------------------------------- > 7 > Apache/1.3.14 Server at phatchat.phatchip.com Port 80o >     7 That is what I see as well.  What am I supposed to see?t   --   Robert Deininger rdeininger@mindspring.com    ------------------------------  % Date: Wed, 04 Jul 2001 16:09:34 +0000.  From: Steve.Spires@yellgroup.com, Subject: Re: PointSecure site was hacked ???/ Message-ID: <00256A7F.0058C6B6.00@quegw01.btyp>   L Contact:   Tel: 3063  -  IS - Infrastructure, 1st Floor, Bridge Street Plaza    % What happens if you try another page;l  * http://www.pointsecure.com/about_nets.html  % I have had no problems with the site.6   Hmmm...B  O Just had an idea! I was using Netscape and it all works okay. Using IE gives meo what you two see. Go figure!   Steve So        F rdeininger@mindspring.com (Robert Deininger) on 07/04/2001 03:01:53 PM    To:        Info-VAX@Mvb.Saic.Com+ cc:         (bcc: Steve Spires/YellowPages)tO From:      rdeininger@mindspring.com (Robert Deininger), 4 July 2001, 3:01 p.m.   # Re: PointSecure site was hacked ???s        
 In articleA <OFAA2C9487.216B0531-ON03256A7F.004A0CE3@ep-bc.petrobras.com.br>, * fabio_compaq@ep-bc.petrobras.com.br wrote:  7 > I am connecting to the homepage and it is appearing :n >I@ >  Name                    Last modified       Size  Description >cP --------------------------------------------------------------------------------3 >  Parent Directory        15-Jun-2000 01:46      -n3 >  Get out of here/        20-Jun-2001 17:01      -, >  >n >+P -------------------------------------------------------------------------------- >-7 > Apache/1.3.14 Server at phatchat.phatchip.com Port 80i >     7 That is what I see as well.  What am I supposed to see?s   -- Robert Deininger rdeininger@mindspring.comF   ------------------------------   Date: 4 Jul 2001 11:21:13 -0500t7 From: hamilton@encompasserve.org (Bradford J. Hamilton) , Subject: Re: PointSecure site was hacked ???3 Message-ID: <SFZGGbk6vnnc@eisner.encompasserve.org>i  	 Hi Steve,n  D Using Netscape 4.51 and IE 5.5, I still see the page I expect to see (pointsecure.com).   --Brad  S >In article <00256A7F.0058C6B6.00@quegw01.btyp>, Steve.Spires@yellgroup.com writes:eN > Contact:   Tel: 3063  -  IS - Infrastructure, 1st Floor, Bridge Street Plaza >  > ' > What happens if you try another page;c > , > http://www.pointsecure.com/about_nets.html > ' > I have had no problems with the site.d > 	 > Hmmm...c > Q > Just had an idea! I was using Netscape and it all works okay. Using IE gives mey > what you two see. Go figure! > 	 > Steve S- >  >  >  > H > rdeininger@mindspring.com (Robert Deininger) on 07/04/2001 03:01:53 PM > " > To:        Info-VAX@Mvb.Saic.Com- > cc:         (bcc: Steve Spires/YellowPages)2Q > From:      rdeininger@mindspring.com (Robert Deininger), 4 July 2001, 3:01 p.m.a > % > Re: PointSecure site was hacked ???t >  >  >  >  > In articleC > <OFAA2C9487.216B0531-ON03256A7F.004A0CE3@ep-bc.petrobras.com.br>,r, > fabio_compaq@ep-bc.petrobras.com.br wrote: > 8 >> I am connecting to the homepage and it is appearing : >>A >>  Name                    Last modified       Size  Descriptions >>R > --------------------------------------------------------------------------------4 >>  Parent Directory        15-Jun-2000 01:46      -4 >>  Get out of here/        20-Jun-2001 17:01      - >> >> >>R > -------------------------------------------------------------------------------- >>8 >> Apache/1.3.14 Server at phatchat.phatchip.com Port 80 >> >  > 9 > That is what I see as well.  What am I supposed to see?. >  > -- > Robert Deininger > rdeininger@mindspring.com  >  >  >    ------------------------------  % Date: Wed, 04 Jul 2001 16:47:34 +0000t  From: Steve.Spires@yellgroup.com, Subject: Re: PointSecure site was hacked ???/ Message-ID: <00256A7F.005C4108.00@quegw01.btyp>u  L Contact:   Tel: 3063  -  IS - Infrastructure, 1st Floor, Bridge Street Plaza     Well, I'm confused now!e  O Netscape 4.7 and IE 5 give me different results. Maybe I should load IE 5.5 andvN see what happens. Has anyone else apart from me followed the 'Get out of here' link on the 'non-working' page?    Steve S         K hamilton@encompasserve.org (Bradford J. Hamilton) on 07/04/2001 04:21:13 PM     To:        Info-VAX@Mvb.Saic.Com+ cc:         (bcc: Steve Spires/YellowPages)yO From:      hamilton@encompasserve.org (Bradford J. Hamilton), 4 July 2001, 4:21-            p.m.l  # Re: PointSecure site was hacked ???n        	 Hi Steve,.  D Using Netscape 4.51 and IE 5.5, I still see the page I expect to see (pointsecure.com).   --Brad  K >In article <00256A7F.0058C6B6.00@quegw01.btyp>, Steve.Spires@yellgroup.comn writes:tN > Contact:   Tel: 3063  -  IS - Infrastructure, 1st Floor, Bridge Street Plaza >o >c' > What happens if you try another page;c >s, > http://www.pointsecure.com/about_nets.html >f' > I have had no problems with the site.* >n	 > Hmmm.... >eN > Just had an idea! I was using Netscape and it all works okay. Using IE gives me > what you two see. Go figure! >d	 > Steve Sn >s >e >g >eH > rdeininger@mindspring.com (Robert Deininger) on 07/04/2001 03:01:53 PM >r" > To:        Info-VAX@Mvb.Saic.Com- > cc:         (bcc: Steve Spires/YellowPages)CL > From:      rdeininger@mindspring.com (Robert Deininger), 4 July 2001, 3:01 p.m. >r% > Re: PointSecure site was hacked ???. >n >0 >e >e > In articleC > <OFAA2C9487.216B0531-ON03256A7F.004A0CE3@ep-bc.petrobras.com.br>,s, > fabio_compaq@ep-bc.petrobras.com.br wrote: >c8 >> I am connecting to the homepage and it is appearing : >>A >>  Name                    Last modified       Size  Descriptionl >> >oP --------------------------------------------------------------------------------4 >>  Parent Directory        15-Jun-2000 01:46      -4 >>  Get out of here/        20-Jun-2001 17:01      - >> >> >> > P -------------------------------------------------------------------------------- >>8 >> Apache/1.3.14 Server at phatchat.phatchip.com Port 80 >> >  >-9 > That is what I see as well.  What am I supposed to see?  >- > -- > Robert Deininger > rdeininger@mindspring.com  >0 >  >m   ------------------------------  % Date: Wed, 04 Jul 2001 16:08:53 +0100e% From: Alan Greig <a.greig@virgin.net>@, Subject: Re: PointSecure site was hacked ???8 Message-ID: <0ac6ktofnqcecofnndrf8nqpch186ai2cq@4ax.com>  # On Wed, 04 Jul 2001 10:29:51 -0300,s* fabio_compaq@ep-bc.petrobras.com.br wrote:  6 >I am connecting to the homepage and it is appearing : >2? > Name                    Last modified       Size  DescriptionpQ >--------------------------------------------------------------------------------@2 > Parent Directory        15-Jun-2000 01:46      -2 > Get out of here/        20-Jun-2001 17:01      - >d >VQ >--------------------------------------------------------------------------------  > 6 >Apache/1.3.14 Server at phatchat.phatchip.com Port 80   FC,r  A I see the same as you but I suspect config problems rather than a ? hacker. If you click on get out of here it does bring up a paged     -- Alan   ------------------------------  % Date: Wed, 04 Jul 2001 18:06:02 +0100   From: Paul Sture <paul@sture.ch>, Subject: Re: PointSecure site was hacked ???+ Message-ID: <VA.000003fa.3b2d1162@sture.ch>r  N In article <OFAA2C9487.216B0531-ON03256A7F.004A0CE3@ep-bc.petrobras.com.br>,   wrote:+ > From: fabio_compaq@ep-bc.petrobras.com.br- > Newsgroups: comp.os.vms . > Subject: Re: PointSecure site was hacked ???' > Date: Wed, 04 Jul 2001 10:29:51 -0300j > 7 > I am connecting to the homepage and it is appearing :@ > @ >  Name                    Last modified       Size  DescriptionR > --------------------------------------------------------------------------------3 >  Parent Directory        15-Jun-2000 01:46      -a3 >  Get out of here/        20-Jun-2001 17:01      -o >  > R > -------------------------------------------------------------------------------- > 7 > Apache/1.3.14 Server at phatchat.phatchip.com Port 80a >  > M I was getting the same in Europe from both Netscape 3.03 on VMS and 4.n on NT-O Clicking on the "Get out of here" directory came up with username and password g prompts.   >  > J > hamilton@encompasserve.org (Bradford J. Hamilton) em 04/07/2001 11:20:04 > E > Favor responder a hamilton@encompasserve.org (Bradford J. Hamilton)t >  >  >  >       Info-VAX@Mvb.Saic.Comm >  >  > . > Assunto: Re: PointSecure site was hacked ??? >  >  > Hi Fabio,t > J > What seems to be the problem?  All looks OK from here (USA, East Coast). >  > --Brad >  > 
 > >In articledC > <OF8EC5D063.985E1776-ON03256A7F.0045D93D@ep-bc.petrobras.com.br>,t- > fabio_compaq@ep-bc.petrobras.com.br writes:n@ > > I believe someone is making terrorism with OpenVMS companies > >h- > > Try to access http://www.pointsecure.com/- > >- > > Regards  > >  > > FC > >0 >1   ___ 
 Paul Sture Switzerlandd   ------------------------------  % Date: Wed, 04 Jul 2001 13:02:03 -03000) From: fabio_compaq@ep-bc.petrobras.com.br , Subject: Re: PointSecure site was hacked ???L Message-ID: <OFEF302805.C28ACEAA-ON03256A7F.0058058F@ep-bc.petrobras.com.br>   It is working fine now !  > This  worried me because they sell OpenVMS security products !   Regardsi   FC        H hamilton@encompasserve.org (Bradford J. Hamilton) em 04/07/2001 12:37:01  C Favor responder a hamilton@encompasserve.org (Bradford J. Hamilton)a             Info-VAX@Mvb.Saic.Comi      , Assunto: Re: PointSecure site was hacked ???    	 Hi Fabio,l  H Are you trying to access the site by its IP address, rather than through DNS???:e    0 EISNER::HAMILTON$ nslookup phatchat.phatchip.com Server:  LOCALHOST Address:  127.0.0.1t   Name:    PHATCHAT.PHATCHIP.COM Address:  63.149.157.91.  * EISNER::HAMILTON$ nslookup pointsecure.com Server:  LOCALHOST Address:  127.0.0.1    Name:    POINTSECURE.COM Address:  63.149.157.92a   EISNER::HAMILTON$.   --Brad     >In articleeA <OFAA2C9487.216B0531-ON03256A7F.004A0CE3@ep-bc.petrobras.com.br>,-+ fabio_compaq@ep-bc.petrobras.com.br writes:w7 > I am connecting to the homepage and it is appearing :- >-@ >  Name                    Last modified       Size  Description >-P --------------------------------------------------------------------------------  3 >  Parent Directory        15-Jun-2000 01:46      -p3 >  Get out of here/        20-Jun-2001 17:01      -  >  >k >?P --------------------------------------------------------------------------------   >e7 > Apache/1.3.14 Server at phatchat.phatchip.com Port 80  >r >o >c	 > Regardsw >p > FC >e >m >  >eJ > hamilton@encompasserve.org (Bradford J. Hamilton) em 04/07/2001 11:20:04 >0E > Favor responder a hamilton@encompasserve.org (Bradford J. Hamilton)R >P >t >u >       Info-VAX@Mvb.Saic.Com- >  >F >+. > Assunto: Re: PointSecure site was hacked ??? >h >s > Hi Fabio,e >oJ > What seems to be the problem?  All looks OK from here (USA, East Coast). >8 > --Brad >7 >O >>In articleC > <OF8EC5D063.985E1776-ON03256A7F.0045D93D@ep-bc.petrobras.com.br>,t- > fabio_compaq@ep-bc.petrobras.com.br writes:i? >> I believe someone is making terrorism with OpenVMS companiesc >>, >> Try to access http://www.pointsecure.com/ >>
 >> Regards >> >> FC  >> >  >  >1 >: >3 >0   ------------------------------  % Date: Wed, 04 Jul 2001 13:00:45 -0300a) From: fabio_compaq@ep-bc.petrobras.com.br@, Subject: Re: PointSecure site was hacked ???L Message-ID: <OF97FCFF50.D3D4BEFB-ON03256A7F.0057E58E@ep-bc.petrobras.com.br>  " The site is working fine now ! ! !    Looked like  it was hacked ! ! !   Regards2   FC        1 Steve.Spires@yellgroup.com em 04/07/2001 13:09:34   , Favor responder a Steve.Spires@yellgroup.com             Info-VAX@Mvb.Saic.Com.      , Assunto: Re: PointSecure site was hacked ???    F Contact:   Tel: 3063  -  IS - Infrastructure, 1st Floor, Bridge Street Plazao    % What happens if you try another page;a  * http://www.pointsecure.com/about_nets.html  % I have had no problems with the site.s   Hmmm...   F Just had an idea! I was using Netscape and it all works okay. Using IE gives me what you two see. Go figure!   Steve Sc        F rdeininger@mindspring.com (Robert Deininger) on 07/04/2001 03:01:53 PM    To:        Info-VAX@Mvb.Saic.Com+ cc:         (bcc: Steve Spires/YellowPages)-J From:      rdeininger@mindspring.com (Robert Deininger), 4 July 2001, 3:01 p.m.  # Re: PointSecure site was hacked ???e        
 In articleA <OFAA2C9487.216B0531-ON03256A7F.004A0CE3@ep-bc.petrobras.com.br>,m* fabio_compaq@ep-bc.petrobras.com.br wrote:  7 > I am connecting to the homepage and it is appearing :- >-@ >  Name                    Last modified       Size  Description >0P --------------------------------------------------------------------------------  3 >  Parent Directory        15-Jun-2000 01:46      --3 >  Get out of here/        20-Jun-2001 17:01      -a >i >o >oP --------------------------------------------------------------------------------   > 7 > Apache/1.3.14 Server at phatchat.phatchip.com Port 80m >s    7 That is what I see as well.  What am I supposed to see?i   -- Robert Deininger rdeininger@mindspring.comk   ------------------------------   Date: 4 Jul 2001 05:42:34 -0500 9 From: Kilgallen@eisner.decus.org.nospam (Larry Kilgallen)O1 Subject: Re: Probably the strangest request yet!!r3 Message-ID: <i2xZ9fGS17wa@eisner.encompasserve.org>t   In article <rdeininger-0307012326370001@user-2ive6bt.dialup.mindspring.com>, rdeininger@mindspring.com (Robert Deininger) writes:2  F > Still, strange things are possible with VMS.  I guess you can use anJ > alphabook as a boot node for a GS320.  I suspect is is possible, becauseK > the manual goes to the trouble of saying it's a really bad idea to use anm > alphabook as a boot node. ;-)r  A I would be willing to try it and report back here if someone willh donate to me both machines :-)   ------------------------------  $ Date: Wed, 4 Jul 2001 09:55:09 +01002 From: "Anthony Lightfoot" <Anthony@Generix.ltd.uk>G Subject: Re: Problems Creating ODBC Connections to RDB databases on vmsL? Message-ID: <3VA07.311$Jk6.79697@news2-win.server.ntlworld.com>    Dear Nivlesh  E If you are still having problems with your ODBC connection, we have a2L solution called CONNX which provides ODBC access to DEC Rdb and is very easy! to install, use and is very fast!m  J Please contact me on +44 (0) 1924 500151 Anthony@Generix.ltd.uk and I will  be pleased toassist you further.  * See www.connx-net.com for more information  9 Nivlesh Chandra <NChandra001@itc.gov.fj> wrote in message0G news:084681714A1BD511970B0002A560015F2D742B@exchange01.govnet.gov.fj... H > I had posted this question sometime earlier but I guess I was not very& > coherent. here is the question again >aK > I have rdb databases on VMS Alpha Machines. The version of rdb is DEC Rdb ( > V6.1-04 and the version of VMS is V6.0F > Now what I want to do is to connect to the rdb database using a odbcI > connection from a windows machine. Before this used to work but now forb someI > reason it does not. I do not have any manuals to work by and the person  thatG > had setup the odbc stuff previously has long gone without leaving anyaL > documentation. This is of urgency since I have to get the ODBC connectionsJ > up as soon as possible. Would really appreciate it if someone could help meG > figure out what is going on or better still point me to documentation  whichT- > I can follow to troubleshoot the problem...> >g- > Your urgent help would be most appreciated.  >- > Niv-   ------------------------------  % Date: Wed, 04 Jul 2001 11:16:43 -0400g2 From: rdeininger@mindspring.com (Robert Deininger) Subject: Re: QBUS SCSI AdapterL Message-ID: <rdeininger-0407011116430001@user-2ive7io.dialup.mindspring.com>  > In article <XZw07.3310$AM.119099@e420r-sjo3.usenetserver.com>, dittman@dittman.net wrote:  6 > Does anyone know of a source for an inexpensive SCSI5 > controller for a QBUS MicroVAX system?  I'd like to 5 > be able to stick a SCSI disk and tape on the system-4 > to replace my RQDX3 and TQK50 controllers and RD54 > and TK50 drives.  I It seems the older, cheaper controllers can be somewhat picky about their I disks (especially newer, bigger disks.) and even more picky about tapes. -G The "modern" generations of controllers do better, but are hard to findeE for cheap.  And manuals are even harder to find than the controllers.e  H You can eventually find a controller at ebay or a used equipment dealer,8 but it may take a few trys to get a working combination.  I You're least expensive path is probably to cluster with a VAXstation 4000PB or something similar, and rely on MSCP-served disks and tapes.  IfE possible, keep a local disk for page and swap files, but keep the VMS,I system disk on the newer system.  If performance is a problem, invest thewC money you saved on more memory for the MIcroVAX, and it will likely  compensate.m   --   Robert Deininger rdeininger@mindspring.com    ------------------------------  * Date: Wed, 4 Jul 2001 11:00:31 +0000 (UTC)' From: david20@alpha1.mdx.ac.uk (D.Webb)e' Subject: Re: Question to Charlie Matco. + Message-ID: <9hut0f$80t$1@aquila.mdx.ac.uk>c  a In article <GGZURyn$3YAl@eisner.encompasserve.org>, young_r@encompasserve.org (Rob Young) writes::s >In article <pBn07.1108$tH1.930721@typhoon.ne.mediaone.net>, "Terry C. Shannon" <terryshannon@mediaone.net> writes:p >> r >c >>>>2 >>> Funny isn't it. Rob the most rabid of all anti0 >>> Intel FUDsters with a particular dislike for* >>> IA-64 has over night become a convert. >>>d3 >>> Circumstances make for very strange bed fellows- >>>- >> - >- >Andrew, >-6 >	Not so much a convert as attempting to be objective.A >	You see in another forum, I made a statement that EV7 should be:F >	the high-end box when it ships.  But then that is it.  In 4-5 years,I >	IA64 should be 80%+ of the 64 bit space all others will be bit players.a >iC >	Maybe we dig through Deja to see how this pans out in a few yearse- >	as we have occasionally done to each other.m >sC >	Again, I'm a big Alpha fan... but Alpha goes away in a few years.1 >	What to do ... what to do. >a >				Rob >r   Rob,  E Why should IA64 be 80%+ of the 64 bit space (unless of course all theS" competitors give up like Compaq) ?   IA64 is not IA32 !!!  L IA32 dominates because of the desktop domination. I see no reason at all whyL the desktop needs 64bit in the near future. Why should businesses go throughI such a migration when faster IA32 chips or compatible will still be beings produced from Intel or AMD ?M When they do decide they need 64bit which path are they more likely to followc; on the desktop - IA64 or a fully compatible AMD 64bit chip.e  M Sorry Compaq has bought into a rose tinted Intel view of the future which may  or may not be true.m     
 David Webb VMS and Unix team leader CCSS Middlesex University   ------------------------------  % Date: Wed, 04 Jul 2001 12:25:47 -0600  From: yyyc186@mindspring.com Subject: Re: Rdb troll; Message-ID: <3b436026$4$lllp186$mr2ice@nntp.mindspring.com>g  ? In <v3gojt8aflgrn2oug9853ledcnerglenlr@4ax.com>, on 06/29/2001 c5    at 09:48 AM, Alan Greig <a.greig@virgin.net> said:   I Ah, but the Incestuous G.Q. Bob has an agenda he is paid to have by Billy_C Goats.  Infect & Destroy.  I ponder why nobody has pressed criminaloI charges against this bastard yet?  He has broken multiple fraud laws, and G walked away.  Aparently he hasn't stiffed any Chicago investors because-J both he and his family are still alive.  We know how to handle such things in Chicago.    Roland  3 >On Thu, 28 Jun 2001 12:11:53 -0400, norm lastovica % ><norman.lastovica@oracle.com> wrote:-   >>p the NT port convenient.- >>4 >>	you've got to be joking.  an excuse was certainly4 >>not what oracle was looking for, I can assure you.  F >I am absolutely sure that the Oracle RDB group was not looking for anJ >excuse to drop it but that's different from Oracle corporate. Just as I'mA >sure the Alpha team was not looking for an excuse to drop Alpha.m   >>> -- >>> Alan   >--s >Alan  -- d; -----------------------------------------------------------t yyyc186@mindspring.com; -----------------------------------------------------------'   ------------------------------  / Date: Wed, 04 Jul 2001 10:49:42 +0200 (MET DST)o& From: Rudolf Wingert <win@fom.fgan.de>; Subject: RE: Strange behavior of BACKUP/SINCE=BACKUP/RECORDo6 Message-ID: <200107040849.KAA16588@sinet1.fom.fgan.de>   Hello,   John Koska wrotes:   >>>nK Perhaps someone is doing $ SET FILE/TRUNCATE on your disk volumes every now G and again, but I believe this would show the files as modified.  Just aB thought. :)m <<<)  D No, nothing was done with this disk. The directory and the files areD untouched since years. The onliest possible reason (IMHO) that I canH see is a system crash, weeks ago. But BACKUP do not save the whole disk,! only some file (2GB of 8GB or so),   Regards Rudolf Wingert   ------------------------------  $ Date: Wed, 4 Jul 2001 13:29:33 +0200> From: "Jean-Francois Marchal" <jean-francois.marchal@x9000.fr>; Subject: Re: Strange behavior of BACKUP/SINCE=BACKUP/RECORD . Message-ID: <9huujs$l3r$1@reader1.imaginet.fr>   Did you check the system time ?a Jean-Franois Marchal  X9000 - Lyon (FR)n  @ "Rudolf Wingert" <win@fom.fgan.de> a crit dans le message news:+ 200107040849.KAA16588@sinet1.fom.fgan.de...r > Hello, >o > John Koska wrotes: >  > >>>oI > Perhaps someone is doing $ SET FILE/TRUNCATE on your disk volumes everys now I > and again, but I believe this would show the files as modified.  Just a 
 > thought. :)  > <<<c > F > No, nothing was done with this disk. The directory and the files areF > untouched since years. The onliest possible reason (IMHO) that I canJ > see is a system crash, weeks ago. But BACKUP do not save the whole disk,# > only some file (2GB of 8GB or so)  >  > Regards Rudolf Wingert >c   ------------------------------  % Date: Wed, 04 Jul 2001 11:38:15 +0100-8 From: John Macallister <J.Macallister1@physics.ox.ac.uk>; Subject: RE: Strange behavior of BACKUP/SINCE=BACKUP/RECORD7N Message-ID: <35666012DF4CD411BE940090279FA240010BEFF2@ppnt41.physics.ox.ac.uk>  J > But BACKUP do not save the whole disk, only some file (2GB of 8GB or so)  H BACKUP will save the whole disk if you give it the correct commands e.g.L BACKUP/IMAGE/RECORD and then BACKUP/SINCE/RECORD/IGNORE=(INTERLOCK,NOBACKUP)L for the incremental backups. You mentioned that you had a system crash. It'sJ possible that the reported free space is incorrect. Run ANAL/DISK/REPAIR ,A set volume/rebuild, DISMOUNT/MOUNT, REBOOT,etc until the reported>D freespace/usedspace is consistent with what's reported by DIR (afterK allowing for aliases, open files, etc. Then you'll find that backup will be  OK.e  I On our systems I do SET VOLUME/REBUILD automatically about once a week to-K avoid space reporting problems. I also do ANAL/DISK/REPAIR after a crash ifrC possible and especially if reported disk space appears to be wrong.J   John  B Name: John B. Macallister  E-mail: j.macallister1@physics.ox.ac.ukH Post: Nuclear and Astrophysics Laboratory, Keble Road, Oxford OX1 3RH,UKA Phone: +44-1865-273388 (direct)  273333 (reception)  273418 (Fax)    ------------------------------  % Date: Wed, 04 Jul 2001 11:28:36 -0500d1 From: "David J. Dachtera" <djesys.nospam@fsi.net>-" Subject: Re: The Alpha/IA64 Hybrid& Message-ID: <3B434434.5C965C6@fsi.net>   Yousuf Khan wrote: > H > "Larry Kilgallen" <Kilgallen@eisner.decus.org.nospam> wrote in message/ > news:xCFJA14cPQtJ@eisner.encompasserve.org...5> > > There is a Sun fellow here in comp.os.vms who insists that? > > Sun has something equivalent if you just add legacy Oracle.j= > > Somehow I doubt that all utilities on Solaris access disk0 > > through legacy Oracle. > N > Veritas has come out with new versions of its Volume Manager and File SystemN > which it calls Sanpoint Foundation Suite HA. These are versions of VM and FSM > that allow for simultaneous shared access of storage resources. This is the0: > basic ingredient in building load-balanced applications.  $ That may be true in the Intel world.  F However, anyone who's ever seen a VAX or an Alpha knows what a consoleE is. If the devices are not visible at the console, then the o.s. mustn> rely on higher-level services (such as the one you mentioned).  G The truly "basic ingredient" is the ability of the machine to "see" theaD shared storage devices, even when there's no o.s. running (yet). TheA application doesn't need to care whether or not it's running on anG stand-alone machine or a node in a cluster. The o.s. should provide theM@ necessary facilties (such OpenVMS's distributed lock management,E intra-cluster communications (SCS) and others) to make this a virtuall
 non-issue.  A Given recent announcements, expect IA64 BIOSes to have a level of8A intelligence similar to that which we've seen in VAXes (and latera@ Alphas) since the early 1990's. When(If) OpenVMS on IA64 finally@ arrives, expect to see a quantum leap in cluster flexibility and functionality.  H Remember: Digital invented "clustering" for VAX/VMS - we've had it sinceG the middle to late 80's and on into OpenVMS for VAX and Alpha. Everyone0 else is now playing "catch up".o   -- - David J. Dachtera  dba DJE Systemsi http://www.djesys.com/  : Unofficial Affordable OpenVMS Home Page and Message Board: http://www.djesys.com/vms/soho/k  F This *IS* an OpenVMS-related newsgroup. So, a certain bias in postings is to be expected.  @ Feel free to exercise your rights of free speech and expression.  F However, attacks against individual posters, or groups of posters, are strongly discouraged.    ------------------------------  # Date: Wed, 04 Jul 2001 12:06:12 GMTk= From: system@SendSpamHere.ORG (Brian Schenkenberger, VAXman-)i& Subject: Re: UPS for AlphaServer 2100A0 Message-ID: <009FE7E8.A79416CF@SendSpamHere.ORG>  d In article <3b42842d.229692281@news.telocity.com>, StevenU@POBoxes.com (Steven P. Underwood) writes:B >APC has an auction site that usually has a variety of refurbishedF >USP's that are fine for hobby use.  There is someone on the list hereC >(or used to be) who has written software to control the APC so you8= >won't need to spend ~$300 to APC for their crippled version._  " 'Tis I.  http://www.tmesis.com/apc  J I'm toying with making it a free product for the VMS hobbyist.  Currently,I however, I'm busy adding SNMP capabilities to it so that it will function-H with a little more "uniformity" across the entire APC product line-up.    e  F >I have the APC version at work and it does shutdown the system, but I8 >have no way of knowing anything else about it's status.  B ... and for that breadth of functionality you paid good money too.   --O VAXman- OpenVMS APE certification number: AAA-0001     VAXman(at)TMESIS(dot)COM              J   "And of course, I'm a genius, so people are naturally drawn to my fiery I   intellect.  Their admiration overwhelms their envy!" -- Calvin & HobbesP   ------------------------------  % Date: Wed, 04 Jul 2001 12:23:39 -0600e From: yyyc186@mindspring.com( Subject: Re: VAX-11/780 boot disk needed; Message-ID: <3b435f6a$3$lllp186$mr2ice@nntp.mindspring.com>   1 In <3B3B943B.3CAED199@Compaq.com>, on 06/28/2001 O@    at 10:31 PM, Didier Morandi <Didier.Morandi@Compaq.com> said:    G Are you talking about an RA Series disk drive?  There are lots of thosenF laying around and they will cost you more to ship than they are worth.  F Unless I'm confusing things with the 11/750 you should be able to boot from the console tape.   Roland   >"Richard W. Schauer" wrote: >> e >> Hi- >> sM >> I have a VAX-11/780 in need of the boot disk for the console processor.  I.K >> would like to run the machine, as it's in excellent condition except foriJ >> this missing disk.  If anyone has one they no longer need or can spare,M >> please let me know.  Also if this is the sort of thing that still might bepL >> available from Compaq, let me know where to find it because I haven't had >> any luck    >You mean the 5 1/4 floppy?T >Well... try DECUS.r$ >Or maybe Portobello Rd (London, UK)   >D.  -- h; -----------------------------------------------------------e yyyc186@mindspring.com; -----------------------------------------------------------d   ------------------------------  % Date: Wed, 04 Jul 2001 18:06:01 +0100h  From: Paul Sture <paul@sture.ch>! Subject: Re: VMS 7.3 experiences?.+ Message-ID: <VA.000003f8.3b2d0c60@sture.ch>   J In article <OFEC82414A.8BECDC64-ON80256A7E.0043A52B@qedi.quintiles.com>,   wrote: > J > I think of it as someone at a DECUS UK seminar proposed it some three or > more years ago :< > NUMA is something to be overcome.  It is not an advantage. >02 Seen on a GS320 presentation slide just yesterday:  2 "NUMA is a consequence to be avoided, not valued." >  >  > Larry Kilgallen wrote: > >>> F > On an intellectual basis, I think NUMA support it nice, but I am notC > so enthused about it that I forget I don't have NUMA hardware :-)- > <<<- >-   ___P
 Paul Sture Switzerland-   ------------------------------   Date: 4 Jul 2001 05:39:01 -0500 9 From: Kilgallen@eisner.decus.org.nospam (Larry Kilgallen)-@ Subject: Wailing and Moaning (was: Full port of VMS to Itanium.)3 Message-ID: <VHirZZcueKZe@eisner.encompasserve.org>i  k In article <9hu0go$akt$1@i4got.pechter.dyndns.org>, pechter@i4got.pechter.dyndns.org (Bill Pechter) writes:-5 > In article <3B38006B.7FEA9CBE@toyvax.Tucson.AZ.US>,05 > Vance Haemmerle  <vance@toyvax.Tucson.AZ.US> wrote:l >>award! >> >>  Compaq is the next Lucent. >> > G > Hell no.  As an Ex-DECcie and Ex-Lucent Bell Labs geek... (who bailede+ > both times before the bottom dropped out)a > H > Lucent may buy way too many companies and run them into the ground but= > they don't unload their intellectual property THAT CHEAPLY.   E I missed the post you obviously saw that revealed the amount of money,E Intel would be paying Compaq for this move.  Please share with us theiD value of "cheaply".  I though they were keeping the amount secret toF avoid causing ill-will with HP, who has provided Intel's previous chip design assistance.   ------------------------------  # Date: Wed, 04 Jul 2001 06:42:54 GMTt. From: "mulp" <michaelpettengill@earthlink.net>' Subject: Re: will the irony never cease B Message-ID: <OVy07.109$oa1.14525@newsread1.prod.itd.earthlink.net>  ? "Terry C. Shannon" <terryshannon@mediaone.net> wrote in messager5 news:Nqr%6.730$9r6.1190644@typhoon.ne.mediaone.net...cI > From what I understand, the shutdown is US-specific and does not affectaI > finance folks (doing end of quarter quarterbacking, etc) and, one wouldo > hope, Services resources.  >pI > One would also hope that the Trees War Room/Fallout Shelter will remain E > active. Not an optimum time to be devoid of marketing resources....8  K Why would anyone work during this week when this year has been marked with:tF     1) all vacation must be used by the end of the year or you lose it!         (there is a two phase in)aG     2) the reason for this policy change is that we want to ensure that 	 employees          have work/life balanceE     3) you managers will work with you to ensure that you are able too schedule         your vacationBG     4) if you don't wish to use your vacation, you will have a one timet optionJ         of selling it for 75% of its value, the decision to sell had to be made beforeg:         99.99% of employees knew of the change in strategyI     5) to assist everyone in taking time off, the entire US will take thel weekG         of the July 4th off; Michael Capellas is setting the example by  taking the week off H         (employees to support customers will be exempt from this policy; because it mightH         result in employees who need to work qualifying for holiday pay,
 CaliforniaJ         employees are exempt, but it is hoped they will take the week off)   ------------------------------   Date: 4 Jul 2001 05:46:24 -0500e9 From: Kilgallen@eisner.decus.org.nospam (Larry Kilgallen)n' Subject: Re: will the irony never cease.3 Message-ID: <mK+Px8iOFzjM@eisner.encompasserve.org>o  s In article <OVy07.109$oa1.14525@newsread1.prod.itd.earthlink.net>, "mulp" <michaelpettengill@earthlink.net> writes:o > A > "Terry C. Shannon" <terryshannon@mediaone.net> wrote in messageQ7 > news:Nqr%6.730$9r6.1190644@typhoon.ne.mediaone.net...tJ >> From what I understand, the shutdown is US-specific and does not affectJ >> finance folks (doing end of quarter quarterbacking, etc) and, one would >> hope, Services resources.   > CaliforniaL >         employees are exempt, but it is hoped they will take the week off)  E My first guess would be that California has a state low covering thispB sort of thing, but most of Sun is in California and I thought they were doing something similar.t   ------------------------------  # Date: Wed, 04 Jul 2001 16:13:20 GMTn From: LBohan@dbc.spam_less..coma' Subject: Re: will the irony never cease 8 Message-ID: <4nf6ktcdnp39ui3a003hj5vgvbsdkmko5d@4ax.com>  F On 4 Jul 2001 05:46:24 -0500, Kilgallen@eisner.decus.org.nospam (Larry Kilgallen) wrote:t  t >In article <OVy07.109$oa1.14525@newsread1.prod.itd.earthlink.net>, "mulp" <michaelpettengill@earthlink.net> writes: >> -B >> "Terry C. Shannon" <terryshannon@mediaone.net> wrote in message8 >> news:Nqr%6.730$9r6.1190644@typhoon.ne.mediaone.net...K >>> From what I understand, the shutdown is US-specific and does not affectUK >>> finance folks (doing end of quarter quarterbacking, etc) and, one wouldt >>> hope, Services resources.H >3
 >> California.M >>         employees are exempt, but it is hoped they will take the week off)c >>F >My first guess would be that California has a state low covering thisC >sort of thing, but most of Sun is in California and I thought theyo >were doing something similar.  3 I was going to suggest that if DELL decided to jumpd> of the Empire State Building, CPQ would be right behind them,   8 but it looks like several other companies are all doing ( the same "mandatory" vacation scheme ...  9 From what I hear, some parts of CPQ are even shutting off  power completely this week.   @ Good maintenance window for A/C, and UPS work, I would guess ...    ? http://www.siliconinvestor.com/stocktalk/msg.gsp?msgid=16026196o ...m ... < Technology companies this week are taking a lesson from moreB traditional industries, such as automakers, by asking employees toE take vacation time. Both Dell and Compaq join several other high-techoD firms in shuttering their offices during the holiday week in further cost-cutting measures.  B Dell is asking employees to take five days off. Hewlett-Packard isB asking its employees to either take eight vacation days by October$ 31st or accept a 10 percent pay cut.  C Other companies requesting that employees take the week off include B Sun Microsystems (Nasdaq: SUNW), Applied Materials (Nasdaq: AMAT) ! and Adobe Systems (Nasdaq: ADBE).    By Ed Sutherland URL: http://www.mitac.como http://www.foxconn.com http://www.forrester.com  ; Copyright (C) 2001, NewsFactor Network. All rights reservedd   ------------------------------  # Date: Wed, 04 Jul 2001 17:08:40 GMT B From: Simon Clubley <simon_clubley@remove_me.excite.com-Earth.UFP>. Subject: Writing to OPA0: from a device driver5 Message-ID: <s4I07.7053$Kf3.69664@www.newsranger.com>u  	 Question:l  + [Platform is Alpha, VMS 7.2, language is C]   N What are the various methods used by VMS device drivers to write (for example,I debugging text) to the system console and which method do people prefer ? A What are the restrictions on the various methods (for example IPL  requirements) ?l   Background:n  J As part of my next hobbyist project, I am writing my first ever VMS deviceH driver. I would like to be able to perform the VMS equivalent of Linux'sI printk call which allows a Linux driver to write directly to the console.v  F The Writing OpenVMS Alpha Device Drivers in C manual talks about usingM exe_std$wrtmailbox to write to the OPCOM mailbox, but does not appear to give M the message format. I have found, however, a code example on Google for using & exe_std$wrtmailbox to write via OPCOM.  L Is the mailbox format formally documented in any place outside of the sourceL listings ? As this is for hobbyist use, I don't have access to the listings.  K The above mentioned example also makes reference to a kernel printf() style F routine, but I can find no documentation on this in the driver manual.G I have also looked in VMS_MACROS and VMS_DRIVER without seeing anything1M obvious. Does such a call exist and what is the calling sequence if it does ?S   Thanks for any information,=   Simon.  M PS: Is there anything in the driver manual that people have found to be wrongsM or might mislead an otherwise experienced VMS person who is new to VMS drivero	 writing ?    -- n; Simon Clubley, simon_clubley@remove_me.excite.com-Earth.UFP K Worrying idea #101: What if Microsoft goes into the Ada compiler business ?c   ------------------------------   End of INFO-VAX 2001.368 ************************anH see is a system crash, weeks ago. But BACKUP do not save the whole disk,! only some file (2GB of 8GB or so),   Regards Rudolf Wingert   ------------------------------  $ Date: Wed, 4 Jul 2001 13:29:33 +0200> From: "Jean-(Ff+DWUG=JƒŊ:y!݈nO$.Bh!9x!$Eʰ5k/Z"^h0ta<b8F3(Ëq.c,Wd\%9Ω/Sy.Nz_(YIUԢ/
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