1 INFO-VAX	Sun, 17 Jun 2001	Volume 2001 : Issue 333       Contents: Re: 7.3 Virgin install, docs help installing 7.3 in cluster" Re: help installing 7.3 in cluster" Re: help installing 7.3 in cluster  Re: It's a VMS anniversary today! Re: JBC-E-NOQUECTX from F$GETQUI.  modern day x-terminals Re: modern day x-terminals Re: modern day x-terminals Re: Mozilla 0.9.1 - faster2 RE: Oracle hypes new clustering on Intel and Linux2 Re: Oracle hypes new clustering on Intel and Linux= Re: OT: I'm just a "pup"!  Was:Re: DEC vs IBM, story of Moses  POSTs via SSL to Apache  Re: Secured FTP 6 Re: Shadowed system disk upgrade procedure - VMS 5.5-2 TCPIP$ logcials for CSWS CGI" Re: The Daily David Hobbs Repost 2 Re: V7.3 backup "improvement"  Re: vms maintenance utility  Re: vms maintenance utility  Re: vms maintenance utility  Re: vms maintenance utility  Re: vms maintenance utility  Wanted:ISUP codec  WTB   F ----------------------------------------------------------------------  % Date: Sat, 16 Jun 2001 16:26:47 -0500 1 From: "David J. Dachtera" <djesys.nospam@fsi.net> % Subject: Re: 7.3 Virgin install, docs & Message-ID: <3B2BCF17.437B97E@fsi.net>   Freddy Meerwaldt wrote:  >  > Hi!  > < > > Got my CD but no docs.  Anybody know if they are online? > > / > > Well, there is a first time for every thing  > 4 > www.openvms.compaq.com:8080 (or was ist :8000) ???  ( It's :8000, but you're better off using:  " http://www.openvms.compaq.com/doc/  A Many corporate firewalls are set to block non-standard TCP ports.    --   David J. Dachtera  dba DJE Systems  http://www.djesys.com/  : Unofficial Affordable OpenVMS Home Page and Message Board: http://www.djesys.com/vms/soho/   F This *IS* an OpenVMS-related newsgroup. So, a certain bias in postings is to be expected.  @ Feel free to exercise your rights of free speech and expression.  F However, attacks against individual posters, or groups of posters, are strongly discouraged.    ------------------------------  % Date: Sat, 16 Jun 2001 11:37:47 -0700 ! From: Tom Linden <tom@kednos.com> ' Subject: help installing 7.3 in cluster 9 Message-ID: <CIEJLCMNHNNDLLOOGNJICEFBCMAA.tom@kednos.com>   G First time at it, installing 7.3 on virgin HW, this is connect on a lan  which had a cluster.H I went through first step and rebooted, and am now stuck on the question  " Enter this cluster's group number:  E I assume that this is not arbitrary but is a number know to the other  members of the cluster.    How do I determine this?   ------------------------------  % Date: Sat, 16 Jun 2001 16:14:15 -0400 2 From: rdeininger@mindspring.com (Robert Deininger)+ Subject: Re: help installing 7.3 in cluster L Message-ID: <rdeininger-1606011614150001@user-2ivechd.dialup.mindspring.com>  D In article <CIEJLCMNHNNDLLOOGNJICEFBCMAA.tom@kednos.com>, Tom Linden <tom@kednos.com> wrote:   I > First time at it, installing 7.3 on virgin HW, this is connect on a lan  > which had a cluster.J > I went through first step and rebooted, and am now stuck on the question > $ > Enter this cluster's group number: > G > I assume that this is not arbitrary but is a number know to the other  > members of the cluster.  >  > How do I determine this?  G If you are making a new cluster, you can pick anything you want for the F cluster group number and the cluster password.  But make sure the pairH does not match any other VMS cluster on the same LAN.  These days, there> are rarely multiple clusters on the LAN, so that part is easy.  H If you want the new system to join an existing cluster, then you have toD use the SAME cluster group number and cluster password.  In an idealC world, somebody wrote them down when the cluster was first created.   A You can find out the cluster group number of an existing cluster:    SYSMAN> config show cluster   O But you can't find out the password.  It's 1-way encrypted and saved in a file.   3 If you don't know the password, you have 2 choices:   E 1.  Change both the group number and the password on existing cluster F members, and reboot them all.  Then you can add the new member.  Write down the new password!  H 2. Copy the existing CLUSTER_AUTHORIZE.DAT file from existing cluster to the new system's boot disk:    Directory SYS$COMMON:[SYSEXE]    CLUSTER_AUTHORIZE.DAT;1    Total of 1 file.  F That way, all the systems will agree on the group number and password,0 even though you don't know what the password is.  
  -- Robert   --   Robert Deininger rdeininger@mindspring.com    ------------------------------    Date: 16 Jun 2001 15:10:34 -0500+ From: young_r@encompasserve.org (Rob Young) + Subject: Re: help installing 7.3 in cluster 3 Message-ID: <$cjQwyDY+tZB@eisner.encompasserve.org>   ] In article <CIEJLCMNHNNDLLOOGNJICEFBCMAA.tom@kednos.com>, Tom Linden <tom@kednos.com> writes: I > First time at it, installing 7.3 on virgin HW, this is connect on a lan  > which had a cluster.J > I went through first step and rebooted, and am now stuck on the question > $ > Enter this cluster's group number: > G > I assume that this is not arbitrary but is a number know to the other  > members of the cluster.  >  > How do I determine this? >   9 	You can get in SYSMAN and do one of the show commands to 8 	determine the group, but the next question you won't be= 	able to answer.  Hoff has answered this a number of times... " 	here is a slice of his from Deja:  < :Could anyone tell me how to find out the cluster number and9 :password of an existing VMS cluster ? I have inherited a : :cluster that I did not set up and cannot find any info on3 :where this is stored anywhere in my documentation.     1   (You don't mention the OpenVMS version in use.)      SYSMAN> CONFIG SHOW CLUSTER   G   Will show you the cluster group number.  The cluster password -- like I   an OpenVMS user's login password -- is stored in a one-way hash format, K   and the hash cannot (hopefully :-) be reversed and the password displayed    in cleartext.   J   If you wish to "clone" the existing group number and password to anotherJ   (non-satellite) system, copy the existing cluster authorization databaseH   file SYS$COMMON:[SYSEXE]CLUSTER_AUTHORIZE.DAT to the new system disk. E   (All copies of this file should be protected against world access.)   H   New VMScluster satellite nodes will pick up the group and password offD   the existing system disk; one need not copy CLUSTER_AUTHORIZE.DAT.   M   ------------------------------ Opinionative ------------------------------- L    Stephen Hoffman      OpenVMS Engineering      hoffman@xdelta.enet.dec.com=                  Insunt interdum menda in eo quod est efficax M   ---------------------------------------------------------------------------    ---    				Rob    ------------------------------   Date: 16 Jun 2001 17:20:25 CDT= From: wayne@tachysoft.xxx.563109.killspam.015d (Wayne Sewell) ) Subject: Re: It's a VMS anniversary today . Message-ID: <cG9r2QbW3ASa@tachxxsoftxxconsult>  ` In article <r9iL93xnjCy1@malvm5.mala.bc.ca>, nothome@spammers.are.scum (Malcolm Dunnett) writes:U > In article <9gc39g$hp4$1@joe.rice.edu>, leslie@clio.rice.edu (Jerry Leslie) writes: 6 >> Terry C. Shannon (terryshannon@mediaone.net) wrote:L >> : So VMS is 25? Still in the prime of its life given COE compliance, etc. >> :M >> : Wonder if we'll be able to say the same about Windoze 2018 when NT/Win2K ! >> : hits 25 in another 17 years?  >> : >>   >> Hopefully we'll just hear:  >>  $ >>   "Grandpa, what was Windows NT?" > 8 >   Or, dare we hope: "Grandpa, what was Microsoft?" ;-) >   ! Or "who the hell was Bill Gates?"     K I'm reminded of the scene in Sleeper when the guys two hundred years in the P future are analyzing a video of Tricky Dick and trying to figure out who he is. L This is rather difficult, since all mention of him has been obliterated fromL the history books.  Billy deserves a similar fate for the devastation of the computer industry.     --  O =============================================================================== M Wayne Sewell, Tachyon Software Consulting  (281)812-0738  wayne@tachysoft.xxx : http://www.tachysoft.xxx/www/tachyon.html and wayne.html  K change .xxx to .com in addresses above, assuming you are not a spambot  :-) O =============================================================================== K Hotel guy (after bed demolition):  That bed goes back to Henry the eighth!! O    Curly: That's nothin'!  We had a bed go back to Sears and Roebuck the fifth!    ------------------------------  % Date: Sat, 16 Jun 2001 15:16:54 -0400 ' From: Jim Becker <jbecker@ui.urban.org> * Subject: Re: JBC-E-NOQUECTX from F$GETQUI., Message-ID: <3B2BB0A6.ABDD7B0A@ui.urban.org>  F You have two problems. Btw, it would have been helpful if you'd done aE SET VERIFY so you could see which call to F$GETQUI was reporting that  message.  D Your first problem is that the DISPLAY_JOB in line 9 has no context.D You're probably thinking, "Yes it does, I used DISPLAY_QUEUE first."E You're close. You need the WILDCARD flag in the DISPLAY_QUEUE call in E line 6. This "establishes and saves a context" according to the help. D If you had a wildcard character in the queue spec, you wouldn't need the WILDCARD flag.  C Your second problem is that you're using a SET ENTRY command before E you're done with your F$GETQUI calls. The SET ENTRY command wipes out C your current GETQUI context. You'd need to accumulate entry numbers 1 until you're done, then use SET ENTRY at the end.    fwheeler@csc.com wrote:  > 9 > I'm getting a JBC-E-NOQUECTX from F$GETQUI on a command E > file that was intended to RELEASE print jobs held in the queue. The I > message occurs on line #9 ($ Held = ...) (below) when I run it on VAX/-  > VMS V7.2.  >  > What am I doing wrong?> > /Scott Wheeler, Computer Sciences Corporation, Fort Worth TX >  > $ show queue/all ps_lps1c6! > Generic printer queue PS_LPS1C6  > 6 >   Entry  Jobname         Username     Blocks  Status6 >   -----  -------         --------     ------  ------7 >     100  MSCR4A$1        SELLERS         145  Holding 7 >     101  MTDCR4A$1       SELLERS         141  Holding 7 >     102  DTDCR4A$1       SELLERS         141  Holding 8 > $ diff release_held.com nl:     ! 'type' with line #s. > ************( > File USER4:[WHEELER]RELEASE_HELD.COM;1D >     1   $Start: ! Release all 'Holding' jobs from PS_LPS1C6 queue.7 >     2   $ ClearContext = F$GETQUI("CANCEL_OPERATION")  >     3   $QLoop:  >     4   $ QName = - @ >     5      F$GETQUI("DISPLAY_QUEUE","QUEUE_NAME","PS_LPS1C6",-) >     6               "GENERIC,SYMBIONT") ' >     7   $ IF QName .EQS. "" THEN EXIT  >     8   $JobLoop: D >     9   $ Held = F$GETQUI("DISPLAY_JOB","JOB_HOLDING",,"ALL_JOBS"), >    10   $ IF Held .EQS. "" THEN GOTO QLoop >    11   $ Entry = - 5 >    12      F$GETQUI("DISPLAY_JOB","ENTRY_NUMBER",,- 0 >    13               "FREEZE_CONTEXT,ALL_JOBS")? >    14   $ IF Held .EQS. "TRUE" THEN SET ENTRY 'Entry'/RELEASE  >    15   $ GOTO JobLoop > ****** > File NL:[]RELEASE_HELD.COM;  > ************ > ( > Number of difference sections found: 1( > Number of difference records found: 15 > " > DIFFERENCES /IGNORE=()/MERGED=1-( >     USER4:[WHEELER]RELEASE_HELD.COM;1- >     NL:[]RELEASE_HELD.COM; > $ @release_held # > %JBC-E-NOQUECTX, no queue context  > $    --
 Jim Becker+ The Urban Institute (http://www.urban.org/) ' Encompass (http://www.encompassus.org/) . ESILUG (http://encompasserve.org/lugs/esilug/)   ------------------------------   Date: 16 Jun 2001 09:43:17 CDT= From: wayne@tachysoft.xxx.563109.killspam.015d (Wayne Sewell)  Subject: modern day x-terminals . Message-ID: <M7cyShwo3vNd@tachxxsoftxxconsult>  K Does anybody know of a currently supported x-terminal?  Basically something N like the vxt 2000+, but with current hardware and software.  I have a xvt, butK I don't really use it.  It's slow and doesn't have that much memory.  Also, L most of my network is 100 megabit, but of course the ancient vxt is only 10.      O Before anybody mentions emulation on PCs, I do *not* want to use a PC for this.   L I would prefer a dedicated x-terminal, if such are still being manufactured.   Wayne  --  O =============================================================================== M Wayne Sewell, Tachyon Software Consulting  (281)812-0738  wayne@tachysoft.xxx : http://www.tachysoft.xxx/www/tachyon.html and wayne.html  K change .xxx to .com in addresses above, assuming you are not a spambot  :-) O =============================================================================== K Hotel guy (after bed demolition):  That bed goes back to Henry the eighth!! O    Curly: That's nothin'!  We had a bed go back to Sears and Roebuck the fifth!    ------------------------------    Date: 16 Jun 2001 18:27:05 -07001 From: nothome@spammers.are.scum (Malcolm Dunnett) # Subject: Re: modern day x-terminals , Message-ID: <K5RA7E2ismuo@malvm5.mala.bc.ca>  / In article <M7cyShwo3vNd@tachxxsoftxxconsult>,  B    wayne@tachysoft.xxx.563109.killspam.015d (Wayne Sewell) writes:   > M > Does anybody know of a currently supported x-terminal?  Basically something P > like the vxt 2000+, but with current hardware and software.  I have a xvt, butM > I don't really use it.  It's slow and doesn't have that much memory.  Also, N > most of my network is 100 megabit, but of course the ancient vxt is only 10. >  >  > Q > Before anybody mentions emulation on PCs, I do *not* want to use a PC for this.  > L     What specifically don't you like about using a PC. I ask this because itM seems that there's not a lot in the way of dedicated X terminals anymore. The M company we used to get ours from ( NeoStations from Neoware ) no longer seems K to build a "classic X terminal" - but they have a product based on embedded & linux which includes the X11 protocol.  M    I looked at an earlier version about a year ago and while it mostly worked L it wasn't quite "ready for prime time". I'd suspect that in the ensuing yearM they've probably improved it. I suspect this may be the product we'll go with  next time we need X terminals.  <    More info at :  http://www.neoware.com/products/4000.html   ------------------------------  % Date: Sun, 17 Jun 2001 00:25:29 -0400 ' From: Jim Becker <jbecker@ui.urban.org> # Subject: Re: modern day x-terminals , Message-ID: <3B2C3139.33F44B47@ui.urban.org>   Wayne Sewell wrote:  > M > Does anybody know of a currently supported x-terminal?  Basically something P > like the vxt 2000+, but with current hardware and software.  I have a xvt, butM > I don't really use it.  It's slow and doesn't have that much memory.  Also, N > most of my network is 100 megabit, but of course the ancient vxt is only 10.  D I used to use and like NCD's X terminals (http://www.ncd.com/). TheyE were good products, and included support for the VMS environment. I'm F not familiar with NCD's current Explora line. I don't know whether NCD is still friendly to VMS.   Q > Before anybody mentions emulation on PCs, I do *not* want to use a PC for this.   A I tend to agree. In my experience, the PC-based X emulators don't C behave as well as either an X terminal or an X workstation/console. D You don't drag windows across the PC display, you smear them across.A Display updates take longer. However, since I currently have no X B terminals at my disposal, I must settle for a PC-based X emulator.   --
 Jim Becker+ The Urban Institute (http://www.urban.org/) ' Encompass (http://www.encompassus.org/) . ESILUG (http://encompasserve.org/lugs/esilug/)   ------------------------------    Date: 16 Jun 2001 13:43:57 -05007 From: hamilton@encompasserve.org (Bradford J. Hamilton) # Subject: Re: Mozilla 0.9.1 - faster 3 Message-ID: <9uZ0US8xCzf4@eisner.encompasserve.org>    Hi,   L Mozilla 0.9.1 is considerably faster than 0.9 on my DPW 433au.  I have foundK only one issue so far: the inability to type an address into the URL window N without crashing the browser with some kind of error having to do with threadsQ (no details - the box is at work, and I haven't had time to document the problem. N The box is 7.2-1 with most of the level-1 ECO's.  I applied the latest THREADS( patch, but the problem keeps happening).  M I agree; progress is being made.  Just remember - it's less than beta-quality M software.  Don't use it to monitor your nuclear power plant, or keep track ofa2 incoming nuclear warheads from North Korea, etc...   :-)=   --Brad   >In article <rdeininger-1606011301140001@user-2ive6ri.dialup.mindspring.com>, rdeininger@mindspring.com (Robert Deininger) writes: <snip>  G > I don't know any details of this socket stuff, but it's possible they J > needed some functionality that requires BSD 4.4.  Remember how everybodyJ > has been complaining about problems with Mozilla?  Maybe this fixes some
 > of them. > I > If it was easy, maybe you or I would have already done it.  The MozilladD > folks are making progess; I'll give them the benefit of the doubt. >  > -- E > Robert Deininger > rdeininger@mindspring.comp   ------------------------------  % Date: Sat, 16 Jun 2001 14:17:18 -0400h+ From: "Main, Kerry" <Kerry.Main@compaq.com>r; Subject: RE: Oracle hypes new clustering on Intel and Linux_R Message-ID: <BE56C50EA024184DAF48F0B9A47F5CF49A2971@kaoexc01.americas.cpqcorp.net>   JF -  J >> Why would Compaq employees be ASHAMED to talk about VMS having the bestC clustering ? What is so damned wrong about saying that Compaq's VMSd
 clsutering& is a decade ahead of competitors ? <<<  H Hey, imho, I regularily promote VMS as the best clustering product - andH that includes presentations I do to Customers as well. Especially if oneI looks at the VMS V7.3 features ie. load balancing of cluster traffic overQJ multiple NIC's, active-active SAN cluster support of up to 100km and beingH able to use shared memory as an extremely fast cluster interconnect when/ using multiple partitions on GS Series servers.n  J In fact, I have two medium size Cust's that are considering using AdvancedJ Server as a server consolidation strategy to reduce the huge numbers of NTK file servers they have in place. Full cluster load balancing, not having to-D worry about x86 server based virus's, being able to shutdown serversH transparently to their end users (no fail-over), Advanced Server being aI member server in W2K environment, being able to run other applications onhJ the cluster at the same time, being able to add more than 2 servers to the* cluster are features they are considering.  K Now, I do qualify these statements as saying that one needs to look at manyTL considerations when looking at platforms, but if availability of servers andI NO loss of data at any time is a mandatory, then OpenVMS has an extremely = good story with proven solutions currently doing this today. I  D Case in point - ask you favourite vendor how they do Oracle OPS in a' multi-site environment - say 8km apart.l  J See if they can get through the answer without using the replication word.H Hint - OPS requires read-write access to the same disks from all serversC (OpenVMS does this with host based shadowing and the DLM) in an OPS  environment.  C Note - while this risk may be ok for some applications, replication E solutions means potential loss of data (amount depends on replicationcF timeframe) and no read-write load balancing of servers between sites.   I >>>> Note: VMS may maintain a lead, but as time progresses, other systems L will gain clustering functions that fit the vast majority's needs. Galaxy is? neat, but useless to the vast majority of potential sites. <<<</  9 This assumes that Customer requirements remain the same. -  J As more Customers put more of their business focus on the Internet, do youH not think their future requirements for availability and scalability areF going to be much higher than they are today?  While they might find itK acceptable to take their systems down today on weekends or in the off hours+K snce they can schedule it with their internal users, what happens when theyu go online with the Internet?  I Again, there are many reasons to choose the platform you require, but VMSrE does have an extremely good story when one looks at all of the server L consolidation and eBusiness efforts currently underway in many corporations.   Regards,  
 Kerry Main Senior Consultante Compaq Canada Inc. Professional Services= Voice: 613-592-4660= Fax  :  819-772-7036 Email: Kerry.Main@Compaq.com     -----Original Message-----4 From: JF Mezei [mailto:jfmezei.spamnot@videotron.ca] Sent: June 15, 2001 2:44 PM. To: Info-VAX@Mvb.Saic.Com ; Subject: Re: Oracle hypes new clustering on Intel and Linux=     "Main, Kerry" wrote:L > re: clustering terms... Personally, I might say "the best UNIX clustering"L > vs "the best NT clustering" vs the "best clustering" for OpenVMS, but thatI > would likely start another long series of threads..so I won't say it ..-  H When GM is discussing luxury cars, you would expect it to talk about itsD Cadillac, not its Cavalier even though the Cavalier might have a few luxuriesL in it. If GM portrays Cavalier as its luxury product, then companies such asE Audi, BMW etc will have a very easy time beating GM in the luxury car  market.o  J Similarly, when a computer company is touting its clsutering capabilities, onetK would expect it to tout its best clustering product, not one which has only / some of the features that its best product has.t  G Why would Compaq employees be ASHAMED to talk about VMS having the besteC clustering ? What is so damned wrong about saying that Compaq's VMSm
 clsutering" is a decade ahead of competitors ?  H What is so damned wrong to flaunt VMS's superior clustering capabilities whiles! it still has a significant lead ?i  I Note: VMS may maintain a lead, but as time progresses, other systems will  gainL clustering functions that fit the vast majority's needs. Galaxy is neat, but1 useless to the vast majority of potential sites.    L Why doesn't Compaq flaunt the fact that VMS can do clustering over ethernet,H something which few if any others can do ?  (not sure if Tru64 can do it yet," but I heard it was being planned).   ------------------------------  % Date: Sat, 16 Jun 2001 16:21:28 -0500 1 From: "David J. Dachtera" <djesys.nospam@fsi.net> ; Subject: Re: Oracle hypes new clustering on Intel and Linux-' Message-ID: <3B2BCDD8.FF40A1EA@fsi.net>1   "Main, Kerry" wrote: >  > JF - > L > >> Why would Compaq employees be ASHAMED to talk about VMS having the bestE > clustering ? What is so damned wrong about saying that Compaq's VMSo > clsutering( > is a decade ahead of competitors ? <<< > J > Hey, imho, I regularily promote VMS as the best clustering product - and9 > that includes presentations I do to Customers as well. e  A I nominate Kerry for V.P. of Sales, U.S., Canada and all of Northo America.   -- e David J. Dachtera  dba DJE Systemsn http://www.djesys.com/  : Unofficial Affordable OpenVMS Home Page and Message Board: http://www.djesys.com/vms/soho/   F This *IS* an OpenVMS-related newsgroup. So, a certain bias in postings is to be expected.  @ Feel free to exercise your rights of free speech and expression.  F However, attacks against individual posters, or groups of posters, are strongly discouraged.    ------------------------------    Date: 15 Jun 2001 09:38:37 -05003 From: malmberg@encompasserve.org (John E. Malmberg)mF Subject: Re: OT: I'm just a "pup"!  Was:Re: DEC vs IBM, story of Moses3 Message-ID: <lsAlm9XrpE+r@eisner.encompasserve.org>   0 In article <009FD904.6B325A13@SendSpamHere.ORG>,? system@SendSpamHere.ORG (Brian Schenkenberger, VAXman-) writes:o3 > In article <3B28E7DC.9515F5DF@BlueBubble.UK.Com>,/3 Roy Omond <Roy.Omond@BlueBubble.UK.Company> writes:6( >>"Brian Schenkenberger, VAXman-" wrote: >>>a >rL > Presently, due to accrued mass storage needs, this final microVAX is now aK > lofty 33 lbs.  This model is presently capable of interfacing with a veryiL > rudimentary communication protocol but has occasional bursts of error thatK > makes it very difficult to comprehend the intended program function.  ThebM > reams of output generated by this model still require constant operator in-  > tervention for disposal.  K It can be important to try to comprehend the communication protocol at that' age.  N When my youngest was that age, if occurred to me that the phrase "push button"H was being repeated, and was being accompanied by a slight clicking soundD near the reset and power buttons of the computer I was working on...   -Johnu wb8tyw@qsl.network Personal Opinion Only.  K Fortunately it was one of the few buttons on that panel that did absolutelye nothing.   ------------------------------    Date: 15 Jun 2001 12:38:51 -0500+ From: kuhrt@encompasserve.org (Marty Kuhrt)s  Subject: POSTs via SSL to Apache3 Message-ID: <lzIMmYUpypaA@eisner.encompasserve.org>E  > Does anyone have an example 3GL program that can emulate POSTsB via SSL to the Apache (CSWS 1.0-1) webserver?   I'm trying to test? out some forms I have created to see if they respond correctly.uB I can do them manually by calling up the cgi page and filling out A the blanks, but I'd like to automate it to do regression testing.   E I'm running CSWS 1.0-1 (Apache 1.3.12, mod_ssl/2.6.2, OpenSSL/0.9.5),a; Multinet 4.3A-X, and VMS 7.2-1 on an Alphaserver 200 4/233.c   Any help would be appreciated, Marty    ------------------------------   Date: 16 Jun 2001 19:39:44 GMT2 From: mathog@seqaxp.bio.caltech.edu (David Mathog) Subject: Re: Secured FTP, Message-ID: <9ggcm0$314@gap.cco.caltech.edu>  b In article <slrn9ilhdk.7i.fraley@cumquat.earthlink.net>, fraley@usfca.edu (Michael Fraley) writes:I >We are trying to do secure file transfers too. We're running OpenVMS 6.2eK >and Multinet 4.3. We need to send files to outside vendors, but they can'tp; >be sent in clear text. Any advice for us would be welcome.u  I If you're running a web server install OpenSSL and set up a user/passwordoM protected download page for each.  Email them the https URL, they click on ittH and they can download the document.  There's also encryption options forK ZIP which might do the trick.  I had the unzip/decrypt stuff running on VMS*, at one time.  Don't know how secure that is.   Regards,   David Mathog mathog@caltech.edu? Manager, sequence analysis facility, biology division, Caltech eJ **************************************************************************J *                                RIP VMS                                 *J **************************************************************************   ------------------------------    Date: 15 Jun 2001 08:38:46 -05003 From: malmberg@encompasserve.org (John E. Malmberg)H? Subject: Re: Shadowed system disk upgrade procedure - VMS 5.5-2h3 Message-ID: <rn8UfC$2Xx9r@eisner.encompasserve.org>s  3 In article <wUbW6.120$kQ2.22703@news-west.eli.net>,t> "frank brown" <frank.brown@ci.seattle.wa.unitedstates> writes:B > I want to upgrade our shadowed VMS 5.5-2 system disk from a pairB > of RF31s to RF72s.  There is no room for additional disks on ourB > dual DSSI-bus 2-VAX4300 cluster (it's maxed out with disks) so I& > plan to perform the following steps:  C I would recommend if you have not done so already to make sure thate> you have standalone backup installed on one of your non-systemD data disks, or have some way to boot your system from an OpenVMS VAX CD-ROM.s  B For this type of move having standalone backup on your system diskD will also work.  The recomendation of having it on a non-system diskI is so that you can quickly boot it if you need to restore the system diskm1 something unlikely with a shadowed configuration.   < > 1. Dismount one of the existing system disk shadow members2 > 2. Shut everything down (CPUs and disk cabinets), > 3. Replace the dismounted RF31 with a RF72  C If you have shutdown both your systems, the fastest method would be  to:e  C   4. Boot standalone backup from a hard disk (preferred) or CD-ROM.e  N   5. Use STANDALONE BACKUP to backup the remaining system disk to the new RF72   > 6. Shut everything down againnI   7. Install the other RF72 to the slot the first RF31 initially occupiedc   8. Power up all the boxes 7   9. Reboot a VAX to use the RF72 that you restored to.c7  10. Restore your system disk shadow set configuration. F  11. You may now boot the second VAX to the RF72 that you restored to.  L > If the VAX boots OK then once the system is up, check to see if the systemE > disk thinks it's part of a shadow set.  (Will it?)  If not, performaM > MOUNT/SYSTEM/SHADOW=(...) to mount the other new disk, to initiate a shadow  > copy.i  M IIRC: When you have manually broken the system disk shadow, you must manuallykG put it back.  Of course the state of shadowing for your disks should be 9 checked after every boot as part of your standard checks.r  M > Am I missing anything here?  Do I need to perform device node operations at + > the console (>>>) level on the new disks?m  J As with all DSSI disks, you must make sure that (The spelling of these are
 from memory):oC FORCEUNI, ALLCLASS, and UNITNUM are set correctly on the new disks.3   -Johne wb8tyw@qsl.network Personal Opinion Onlya   ------------------------------    Date: 15 Jun 2001 12:50:44 -0500+ From: kuhrt@encompasserve.org (Marty Kuhrt)i% Subject: TCPIP$ logcials for CSWS CGIn3 Message-ID: <DsQibd+79dV8@eisner.encompasserve.org>.  A For those of you running Apache (CSWS) with Multinet, you have touD define TCPIP$ logicals to match the UCX$ logicals to get CGI to workE properly.  Here is a quick command proc to find all the UCX$ logicalst$ and create TCPIP$ logicals to match.  F It works for me, but hasn't been extensively tested.  Your milage may  vary.i   $ pid = f$getjpi( "", "PID")( $ tmp = "ucx2tcpip_logs_" + pid + ".tmp" $ table = "" $ dblq = """ $ def/user sys$output 'tmp'o $ sho log ucx$*  $ open file 'tmp'l $read_loop:n $    read/end=eof file rec# $    rec = f$edit( rec, "COLLAPSE")r3 $    if f$locate( "LNM$", rec) .nes. f$length( rec)p	 $    then  $       table = rec - "(" - ")"s $       goto read_loop
 $    endifG $    if f$locate( "UCX$", rec) .eqs. f$length( rec) then goto read_loopF# $    left = f$element( 0, "=", rec)h $    tran = f$trnlnm( 'left)5 $    newt = "TCPIP$" + ( left - "UCX$") - dblq - dblqs $    newt = dblq + newt + dblq $    tran = dblq + tran + dblq$ $    define/table='table 'newt 'tran $    goto read_loop  $eof:e $ close file $ deletex/nolog 'tmp';*e $ exit   ------------------------------  % Date: Sun, 17 Jun 2001 01:33:33 -0400e From: drjim@rcn.com (Mad Max)a+ Subject: Re: The Daily David Hobbs Repost 2H> Message-ID: <drjim-ya02408000R1706010133330001@news.erols.com> Keywords: sewer output  A In article <3B2AF21B.F47C0E96@home.com>, scottabe@home.com wrote:h   >Whoever you are, good work.  ) Very funny, you know damn well who it is.E* playing with your sockpuppet Bert H again.; >Hobbs is a psychopathic liar, a drug addict, a true wacko.SG >He threatened my life on several occasions, has stalked me in the real E >world, has made false police reports, committed perjury, and grossly- >defamed me.  F So please go on with your absurd story.  Scott ought to tell us why a K Seattle court issued him a restraining order to cease stalking David Hobbs. 
 Thats all.   >If you know him, avoid hima >  >Caillech@helferlein.net wrote:  >iH >> David Hobbs, computer whiz, Seattle area resident, fired Credit UnionE >> employee, hacker, snowboarder, holder of a DWI, high tech industry E >> worker, and general all round nasty person has made numerous posts.J >> to a variety of newsgroups that I'll bet that he wishes he had canceled) >> before others had made copies of them.h >>$ >> Another classic David Hobbs post: >>4 >> "Bert deserves what is coming to him, so does him9 >> buttmante Scott. ... If he thinks he can get away with7< >> this and not have some type of retaliation happen to him,B >> others around him, his busines and private life he is dreaming.B >> (Ready to move too, Bert? It probably would be in your familiesC >> best interest, seeing as controvrsial you have been here. Heavend? >> forbid, something terrible ever happened to innocent partiesr+ >> associated to you. That would be awful."r >>5 >> Maybe David Hobbs works for you. Maybe he needs tor >> learn how to spell. >>4 >> Maybe you should run a "random" drug test on him. >>8 >> Maybe you should check his computer and see where all/ >> of those e-mails of his are REALLY going to.  >>: >> Maybe he will create an alt. newsgroup under YOUR name! >>5 >> See you tomorrow with another Classic David Hobbs!n >> >> CBB >>$ >> Comments, kudos or complaints to:5 >> David Hobbs (Maverick) <lordboots@mailandnews.com>=   ------------------------------    Date: 16 Jun 2001 06:04:56 -05009 From: Kilgallen@eisner.decus.org.nospam (Larry Kilgallen)n& Subject: Re: V7.3 backup "improvement"3 Message-ID: <5F+m89aj1rVV@eisner.encompasserve.org>t  X In article <1010616002949.4230A-100000@Ives.egh.com>, John Santos <JOHN@egh.com> writes:  @ > Expanding or contracting a directory ARE NOT EVENTS THAT CAUSE > INCREMENTAL RESTORES TO FAIL.a > D > There are two cures to this.  1) Implement a new "directory really? > modified" date, that only reflects events that actually cause A > incremental restores to fail, and have BACKUP examine that date-! > when doing incremental backups.0  G I dislike your choice of name.  From my viewpoint, "directory modified"RG is _not_ equivalent to "incremental restore will fail".  There are usesA- for modification dates other than for Backup..   ------------------------------  % Date: Sat, 16 Jun 2001 20:48:39 +0200o= From: Arne =?iso-8859-1?Q?Vajh=F8j?= <arne.vajhoej@gtech.com>o$ Subject: Re: vms maintenance utility) Message-ID: <3B2BAA07.A4BEE68D@gtech.com>    "David J. Dachtera" wrote: > Arne Vajhj wrote:: > > He did say that he wanted something like smit for AIX. > >mA > > For those that know AIX, then that is pretty good descriptionlB > > (but the large majority of a VMS forum, that does not know AIX > > are ofcourse lost).u > D > Could you briefly describe "smit", maybe starting with name? (UN*XH > utility names are sometimes acronyms or contractions, like "tar" (TapeI > ARchiver), "cp" (CoPy) "pwd" ("Print" Working Directory) and the like.)   , "smit" is the name of the command / utility.  G It has been some years, but as I recall it, then a system administartoro# could do anything from within smit.b   Arne   ------------------------------  % Date: Sat, 16 Jun 2001 20:51:24 +0200r= From: Arne =?iso-8859-1?Q?Vajh=F8j?= <arne.vajhoej@gtech.com>e$ Subject: Re: vms maintenance utility) Message-ID: <3B2BAAAC.1B16F063@gtech.com>e   "David J. Dachtera" wrote: > Arne Vajhj wrote:D > > (there are a management station utility for windows that let youE > > manage your VMS box from a windows system, but almost nobody useso	 > > that)k > C > Management Station provides for management of a limited number ofaG > aspects of the system. It is not, IMHO, comprehensive. Some sites mayr > find it useful, all the same.i   That may very well be true.s  C But if it had been a success, then I think features would have beene@ added a long the way, so it now would have been rather complete.  F If Digital had decided to do 2 versions with identical functionality -C one for VT and one for X, then it may actually have been a success.s  D But they choose Windows. The general faith in Windows products amongC VMS system managers are very little. So ofcourse the product becamet
 a failure.   Arne   ------------------------------  % Date: Sat, 16 Jun 2001 16:19:40 -0500f1 From: "David J. Dachtera" <djesys.nospam@fsi.net>t$ Subject: Re: vms maintenance utility' Message-ID: <3B2BCD6C.FCAEA15B@fsi.net>o   Arne Vajhj wrote: >  > "David J. Dachtera" wrote: > > Arne Vajhj wrote:F > > > (there are a management station utility for windows that let youG > > > manage your VMS box from a windows system, but almost nobody usesf > > > that)n > >tE > > Management Station provides for management of a limited number ofaI > > aspects of the system. It is not, IMHO, comprehensive. Some sites mayf! > > find it useful, all the same.s >  > That may very well be true.h > E > But if it had been a success, then I think features would have beenpB > added a long the way, so it now would have been rather complete. > H > If Digital had decided to do 2 versions with identical functionality -E > one for VT and one for X, then it may actually have been a success.s > F > But they choose Windows. The general faith in Windows products amongE > VMS system managers are very little. So ofcourse the product becameo > a failure.  E Agreed. I think some of this might (just *MIGHT*, mind you) have beenaE mitigated if Mgt. Stn. had provided similar functionality to SYSMAN +eC AUTHORIZE + (AUTOGEN-"shutdown") + PWRKs ADMIN + QUEMAN + (hooks toOD allow for user-supplied code for maintaining access/authorization toF applications). Lower privilege levels (fewer identifiers?) should haveE provided for limited mgt. functions, such as restricting operators toe the QUEMAN functions and such.  1 On the whole, a good idea; but, it died birthing.t  F I'm as anti-M$ as anyone, but if that's what "the big guys" want, thenE they should have gone "whole hog" (sorry - American expression; Texasa( folks and Southerners might understand).   --   David J. Dachtera  dba DJE Systemsc http://www.djesys.com/  : Unofficial Affordable OpenVMS Home Page and Message Board: http://www.djesys.com/vms/soho/m  F This *IS* an OpenVMS-related newsgroup. So, a certain bias in postings is to be expected.  @ Feel free to exercise your rights of free speech and expression.  F However, attacks against individual posters, or groups of posters, are strongly discouraged.s   ------------------------------    Date: 16 Jun 2001 06:01:13 -05009 From: Kilgallen@eisner.decus.org.nospam (Larry Kilgallen)m$ Subject: Re: vms maintenance utility3 Message-ID: <y5Qq8VtWsXLQ@eisner.encompasserve.org>a  [ In article <3B2ACDAB.4F89592A@fsi.net>, "David J. Dachtera" <djesys.nospam@fsi.net> writes:  > Jerry Leslie wrote:a  K >> From an offline email dialog, Ms. St. Clair was trying to add a new useriI >> and a printer. I believe she has defined a new user, but there may not I >> be any TCP/IP stack installed, she reported that none of the followingn, >> commands produced meaningful information: >> s9 >>    $ UCX SHOW VERSION  ! "Ultrix Connection" (Digital) L >>    $ TCPIP SHOW VERSION    ! TCP/IP Services (fka "UCX") (Digital/Compaq); >>    $ MULTINET SHOW/VERSION ! Process Software - Multinet 6 >>    $ RUN TCPWARE:NETCU ! Process Software - TCPwareC >>    $ RUN SYS$SYSTEM:IPCP   ! CMU/IP (Carnegie-Mellon University)A  @ Of course VMS _does_ have a more uniform interface in this area:  
 	SHOW NETWORKt    and 	START NETWORK  B If there are situations where this does not work, it is due to the individual IP stack vendors.   ------------------------------    Date: 15 Jun 2001 09:45:31 -0500 From: gleason@encompasserve.org $ Subject: Re: vms maintenance utility3 Message-ID: <zDYGcn4yVhu4@eisner.encompasserve.org>.  V In article <3B2905ED.F76B409D@bigfoot.com>, Hamlyn Mootoo <univms@bigfoot.com> writes:J > The maintenance utility is called RTFM and has been around since VMS 1.0 > :) > J > But seriously, as pointed out earlier, no such facility exists.  ReadingI > the manuals are the your best bet.  It's tough to become a VMS system'scL > administrator overnight, and it really is prudent to learn the basics fromH > a user level before jumping into administration (just like AIX, or anyE > other real OS).  But certainly, even if your engagement with VMS isIL > limited, most (if not all) of the seasoned professionals out  here will be; > more than happy to try to answer your specific questions.@ >   M   All that is required to become a decent VMS admin is to read and understand J each and every manual in the well written and widely available manual set.  M    I would weep tears of joy if the same could be said for other platforms...r     Lee K. Gleason N5ZMR Control-G Consultants # lgleason  at houston dot rr dot com    ------------------------------  % Date: Sun, 17 Jun 2001 01:39:01 +0400iC From: "Ruslan R. Laishev" <to-junk--laishev@mail.dls.net---to-junk>t Subject: Wanted:ISUP codec? Message-ID: <naQW6.47894$r4.427075@e420r-atl3.usenetserver.com>t  
 Hello All!  L     I looking for an ISUP (ISDN User Part) preferably free coder/decoder API% with sources. Anyone heard about so ?e   -- Regards.6 Mobile:+7 (901) 9713222, AIM nickname:"VMS hardworker"> http://www.DLS.net  - Non-stop VMS-powered ISP in ChicagoLand!< http://www.RadiusVMS.com - RADIUS server for OpenVMS project   ------------------------------  # Date: Sun, 17 Jun 2001 04:19:00 GMT 1 From: "Phillip D. Williams" <edhouse00@qwest.net>. Subject: WTB; Message-ID: <UcWW6.78438$aA5.441413@news1.rdc1.tx.home.com>t   Helloh I need the following items 5 RX33 scsi versions qty 12-28766-191 qty 12-28766-28r   Giving away the followingh VMS 5.5  cond cdss VMS 6.2/6.1  TK50 - docs for 5.5-X its not complete (gray wall!!)o8 As always free to any no-profit or anybody that can pick> it up... or you pick up the tab for postage and shipping only.   My cont hit list/ I would really like a DECsystem 5500. If anyoned" has one for under 500 let me know. TKsa   Phillipe7 *******************************************************u+ NOTE THE FOLLOWING IS NOT SUPPORT BY COMPAQu. OR ANYBODY WITH COMPAQ. THE STATEMENTS ARE  MY OWN.	 Thank you 8 ********************************************************  3 Need a ture 24X7 OS that will not let your business-  down when the going gets tough??3 Need true clustering not some fake clustering wherec# share resources are still a dream??c. Need a OS that will not go down when more then 2 people log on??e4 Need a OS thats virus free/a hackers nightmare/where/ management of the users/resources are simple???g) Then click on www.openvms.compaq.com  andn* see what OpenVMS can do for your business.   ------------------------------   End of INFO-VAX 2001.333 ************************