1 INFO-VAX	Sun, 06 May 2001	Volume 2001 : Issue 252       Contents:, Re: 1GHz Alpha EV68CB Microprocessor ExposedL Re: AlphaServer GS-Series 1GHz Upgrade, ES45, DS25, European VMS Forums, etc3 Re: Compaq OpenVMS and Digital Networks Partnership A Re: Conference: CETS-2001 - Content Advisory Teams Phase I report  Re: DCL "library" % Error on NFS mount:  "use /TRANSPORT"  Re: Glue for a BA356-KC  Re: LAT v Telnet Performance Re: LAT v Telnet Performance* Mother's Day Specials from GiftBaskets.com Re: MP sync high CPU usage Re: MP sync high CPU usage> Re: Multiple languages and Gnome/GTK+/KDE, was: Re: Open Motif Re: Open Motif7 Oracle Rdb Internals Class June 25-29, Reading, England  OT: Pioneer 10 lives! P Re: The DFWCUG's DFWDAYS 2001 Presentations are online (as well as a few  photos Re: VAX vs AXP executable 0 XFC was Re: V7.3 in clusters w/earlier versions?B Re: [INFO] =?iso-8859-1?Q?Z=FCrich?= Tech Update seminar confirmed  F ----------------------------------------------------------------------    Date: 04 May 2001 04:45:27 +0800, From: Paul Repacholi <prep@prep.synonet.com>5 Subject: Re: 1GHz Alpha EV68CB Microprocessor Exposed - Message-ID: <87d79q6u1k.fsf@prep.synonet.com>   # Shane.F.Smith@Healthnet.com writes:   F > There is an AMD chipset that supports multiprocessor, it's the 760MPD > if I recall correctly, but don't quote me. It's in production, but > the   > I think the 760MP is Athelon/Tbird, and the 761MP is Palimono.  B > motherboards aren't yet on sale. There's been a little confusionD > recently as to whether it's targeted for the current "thunderbird"A > model athlons or the upcoming "palomino". The fastest t-bird is F > 1.33Ghz on a 266 FSB (ddr 133mhz), but the "axia" stepping chips areC > successfully overclocking much higher, some even up to 1.8ghz and F > Ive seen reports of one reaching 2.2ghz.  Sounds like there's plenty@ > of headroom in the design.The palomino is expected to debut atC > 1.5ghz, and from odd comments I've read I think it takes the same C > shaped socket, but with an extra power line or two.  Motherboards = > will be backwards compatible, but not necessarily forwards.   F Palimino is out now in mobile form. The 1.7 is reported/rumoured to be RSN.   --  < Paul Repacholi                               1 Crescent Rd.,7 +61 (08) 9257-1001                           Kalamunda. @                                              West Australia 6076. Raw, Cooked or Well-done, it's all half baked.H Spam-To: uce@ftc.gov,enforcement@sec.gov,sness@fcc.gov,hfurchtg@fcc.gov,#   mpowell@fcc.gov,gtristan@fcc.gov     ------------------------------    Date: 06 May 2001 06:30:40 +0800, From: Paul Repacholi <prep@prep.synonet.com>U Subject: Re: AlphaServer GS-Series 1GHz Upgrade, ES45, DS25, European VMS Forums, etc - Message-ID: <87snijl97z.fsf@prep.synonet.com>   6 "Terry C. Shannon" <terryshannon@mediaone.net> writes:  E > Mike Magee has posted a reprint of an SKC AlphaServer Diamond Forum  > article on The Inquirer at:   ) > http://www.theinquirer.net/05050103.htm   ? > The article contains information on the subject platforms and  > events. Check it out.   
 Nice info!  F The long roll-over time for the 1GHz chips from the GSs down to the DSD boxen implies less than wonderfull things about yield though. But itF seems they are getting on top of the latencies in the GS global switchB well enough to HLBT it to probably another kicker to 1.3-1.5GHz in about a years time.    --  < Paul Repacholi                               1 Crescent Rd.,7 +61 (08) 9257-1001                           Kalamunda. @                                              West Australia 6076. Raw, Cooked or Well-done, it's all half baked.H Spam-To: uce@ftc.gov,enforcement@sec.gov,sness@fcc.gov,hfurchtg@fcc.gov,#   mpowell@fcc.gov,gtristan@fcc.gov     ------------------------------  % Date: Sat, 05 May 2001 23:09:27 +0100 % From: Alan Greig <a.greig@virgin.net> < Subject: Re: Compaq OpenVMS and Digital Networks Partnership( Message-ID: <3AF47A16.7AA5C5@virgin.net>  N "antonio.carlini" wrote:DNPG certainly have the rights to use the Digital name  6 > (even for new kit they design and build themselves). > 2 > I believe (but I'm not 100% sure) that they have1 > that right exclusively for some period of time, 1 > so in some sense they already *are* Digital :-)   @ Want to go back in time? Click on http://www.digitalindiasw.com/T The old Digital subsidiary in India never changed its name even though Compaq is the majority shareholder.    > 3 > VAXes, Alphas and OpenVMS are all still supported . > by COMPAQ (although there will be no new VAX > hardware ...). > 	 > Antonio  >  > -- >  > --------------- / > Antonio Carlini             arcarlini@iee.org    --
 Alan Greig   ------------------------------    Date: 06 May 2001 07:42:02 +0800, From: Paul Repacholi <prep@prep.synonet.com>J Subject: Re: Conference: CETS-2001 - Content Advisory Teams Phase I report- Message-ID: <87k83vl5x1.fsf@prep.synonet.com>   2 Mark Berryman <Mark.Berryman@Mvb.Saic.Com> writes:  F > I see a PDF file there.  What is VMS-incompatible about PDF?  I haveC > at least 4 different programs on my VMS system that can read PDF.   F I 'only' have 2, GS and XPDF. I do have a big pile of Decpaq PDF files that are unreadable...  E I wonder how long before PDF is finally shot so we can go through all 
 this *again*.    --  < Paul Repacholi                               1 Crescent Rd.,7 +61 (08) 9257-1001                           Kalamunda. @                                              West Australia 6076. Raw, Cooked or Well-done, it's all half baked.H Spam-To: uce@ftc.gov,enforcement@sec.gov,sness@fcc.gov,hfurchtg@fcc.gov,#   mpowell@fcc.gov,gtristan@fcc.gov     ------------------------------  # Date: Sun, 06 May 2001 03:03:57 GMT . From: "Alphaman" <alphaman64@nixspam-home.com> Subject: Re: DCL "library"< Message-ID: <xa3J6.62158$U4.15022017@news1.rdc1.tn.home.com>  8 Tim Llewellyn <tim.llewellyn@bbc.co.uk> wrote in message# news:3AEEC8D8.D83AF58D@bbc.co.uk... D > Is there some hackery with @ or otherwise I can do to force DCL toJ > interpret code in a procedure library file spearate from the application > code.   J Here's another idea, a variation on some of the other themes.  The thing IL like about this one is that all the calls are defined by the library, makingK the main package cleaner.  There is little worry about calling non-existent J entry points as the library package defines them all itself the first time8 it's called (with a blank param or "INIT" as the param).  - Here's what a calling parent would look like:    $       @lib $       lib$echo "Hello"  K A simple example, huh?  The first line initializes the routines, the second . executes a call to the desired library module.  L This is what a pared down library would look like; I recommend cleaning thisD up a bit, watch your symbol scope, etc., as mentioned in many of the previous posts.    LIB.COM   / $       if (p1 .eqs. "") .or. (p1 .eqs. "INIT") 
 $        then  $         gosub init
 $        else K $         call 'p1' "''p2'" "''p3'" "''p4'" "''p5'" "''p6'" "''p7'" "''p8'"  $        endif $       exit $! $ init: C $!      Make a line like the following for each library subroutine: 9 $       lib$echo == "@''f$environment("Procedure")' echo"  $       return $! $ echo: subroutine= $       write sys$output f$fao("!7(AS)",p1,p2,p3,p4,p5,p6,p7)  $       endsubroutine     F Hope this is useful.  Personally, I think this results in the cleanestL programmer interface, not only in the main routines, but also in the library modules.   Aaron  --> Aaron Sakovich  http://members.home.net/sakovich/alphaman.html> Make April 15 just another day:        http://www.fairtax.org/ $ type unix.com ,  $ loop: read sys$input command /prompt="# "8  $       write sys$output command,": Command not found."  $       goto loop   ------------------------------  % Date: Sat, 05 May 2001 16:00:42 -0400 * From: "Stanley F. Quayle" <stan@stanq.com>. Subject: Error on NFS mount:  "use /TRANSPORT". Message-ID: <3AF423AA.21864.53EED32@localhost>  . TCPIP> MOUNT DNFS0:[EMOM] NFS_EMOM DISK$EMOM -. /HOST=192.168.60.3  /PATH="/shares/big/emom" -# /PROTECTION=(S:RE,O:RE,G:RE,W:RE) -  /RETRIES=100 /ADF=CREATE  2 This works on every system in my cluster, but one:  ? %TCPIP$DNFSMOUNT-E-NOTRAN, default transport is not found, use  
 /TRANSPORT    ! This is with UCX 5.0.  Any clues?  --Stan  
 ----------G Stanley F. Quayle, P.E.   N8SQ   +1 614-868-1363   Fax: +1 614 868-1671 1 8572 North Spring Ct. NW, Pickerington, OH  43147 = Preferred address:  stan@stanq.com       http://www.stanq.com    ------------------------------  # Date: Sun, 06 May 2001 02:12:26 GMT . From: "Alphaman" <alphaman64@nixspam-home.com>  Subject: Re: Glue for a BA356-KC< Message-ID: <eq2J6.62112$U4.14983662@news1.rdc1.tn.home.com>  G I used a hot melt glue gun on one of mine, probably 4 months ago.  It's D still holding, although it by no means gets frequent strain.  I alsoH repaired the door on an AlphaServer 1000 at the same time, and it too is holding.   Aaron  --> Aaron Sakovich  http://members.home.net/sakovich/alphaman.html> Make April 15 just another day:        http://www.fairtax.org/ $ type unix.com ,  $ loop: read sys$input command /prompt="# "8  $       write sys$output command,": Command not found."  $       goto loop  =  In article <3AF31BB9.3FE9E0B@pressenter.com>, Lyndon Bartels !  <lbartels@pressenter.com> wrote:   I  > I have aquired a couple BA356-KC (pedestal) and while the shelf is not C > damaged, the "cap" and "door" have some breaks and/or cracks. Any E > recommendations on a glue that I can rely on to fix said cracks 'n'  > such?    ------------------------------    Date: 04 May 2001 04:33:15 +0800, From: Paul Repacholi <prep@prep.synonet.com>% Subject: Re: LAT v Telnet Performance - Message-ID: <87lmoe6ulw.fsf@prep.synonet.com>   ' "John Vottero" <John@mvpsi.com> writes:   F > If someone is saying that you have to stop using LAT so that you can@ > stop bridging across the slow links between the LANs, they are > probably correct.   E The problem is the 'slow' not the bridging. Put a router with lots of < buffering in, go all IP and watch it all collapse in a heap.   --  < Paul Repacholi                               1 Crescent Rd.,7 +61 (08) 9257-1001                           Kalamunda. @                                              West Australia 6076. Raw, Cooked or Well-done, it's all half baked.H Spam-To: uce@ftc.gov,enforcement@sec.gov,sness@fcc.gov,hfurchtg@fcc.gov,#   mpowell@fcc.gov,gtristan@fcc.gov     ------------------------------    Date: 04 May 2001 04:29:47 +0800, From: Paul Repacholi <prep@prep.synonet.com>% Subject: Re: LAT v Telnet Performance - Message-ID: <87pudq6uro.fsf@prep.synonet.com>   / David B Sneddon <dbsneddon@BigPond.com> writes:   D > Thanks for the info... the situation we have is that some parts ofC > our network are expanding and seeing some "problems" (our network D > configuration is quite large and is basically a lot of LANS joined> > together to be a big WAN).  The "problems" relate to allegedB > performance issues with LAT (as well as problems with MOP).  TheC > nature of the problems indicate to me that the LAN configurations E > are not quite up to scratch.  However, due to a lot of politics and D > bullshit, certain individuals are pushing the move to IP... ratherD > than address the _real_ problem.  The claim to date is that TelnetD > generates less network traffic than LAT.  I personally find this aB > bit hard to believe given that the LAT protocol was specifically? > engineered for optimal use on a LAN (I could be wrong).  I am C > familiar with the innards of LAT and what it is trying to achieve @ > and was hoping to be able to find some statistics to backup myE > thoughts, although I doubt the opposition will have any information B > to backup his.  I sense a battle approaching and was looking for > some ammunition.  G The studies where done, but nearly 20 years ago... Good luck on finding 7 a copy. If anyone knows where Ric Seaforth is now days?   E LAT is 'chatty' if it has no other traffic. But that is SO low a load F it is not even worth thinking about. What LAT does do, is seen ALL theE trafic over a circuit between a host and server in one packet, unless E it overflows into a second. And with a 100 lines on a 550, that could G happen. With Telnet, you are sending a full telnet/TPC/IP load for near E every character in the terminal to host direction. LAT also waits for G a short time before sending the first char so as to increase the trafic  agregation.   B With the larger terminal servers, and high traffic, a 10:1 trafficF diference on the wire is not out of the question. But, LAT is not veryB tollerant of out of spec LANs. It has timers in the 70-250ms range> that are hard coded in. It also does not like high lost packet= rates. The normal 'gothya' is bridging over a too slow serial B line. The transit delays can take it too the limit. Add in queuingC delays, and it will start dropping circuits and complaining. If you A are also having trouble with MOP loads, then I'll bet packets are  being lost.   F Add to that the need with TCP for routers, configuration, loss of autoF connect, prefered services, monitoring and managment set ups... If the net is OK, LAT 'just works'.  B TO answer the thing about traffic on the net, telnet will generateF less bytes on the wire till you get to about 10 chars/sec. Because TPC? sends near nothing when idle. At 10 chars/sec, you will get ~10 F packets/sec for LAT or telnet. As the numbers go up, LAT will increaseE to about 15/sec MAX EVER. Telnet will keep going up and up... This is C in the simple one-one case. If you have multiple hosts and servers, E you top out at about 15 packets/sec/pair. Also if you are moving more C than (I think) 1K/sec, the packet count will go up due to the slots E needing a second packet. Several printers on one server is the normal E way you get this, or X sessions. So the only time telnet wins is when D it does not matter... 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 applications;  4. All running VMS 7.1;>F 5. Yes, the application are running on different nodes in the cluster;J 6. MP sync takes up 50% of the total system CPU time. As we have 6 CPU, it always use up to 200 to 400%.   7 "David Beatty" <David.Beatty@qwertysasasdfgh.com> ?????3, news:bfbyOqH0UqxtHnh6BXPYi6tHGFWI@4ax.com... >e% >     Several questions come to mind:n >e. >     1.  What kind of system are you running? >     2.  What version of VMS?, >     3.  What applications are you running?9 >     4.  What other systems are in your cluster and whata+ >          version of VMS are they running?iD >     5.  Does the application run on multiple nodes in the cluster?= >     6.  Is the measurement for MP Sync 50% of one processor > >          or 50% for the entire system?  MONITOR displays its+ >          values as 100% x number of CPUs.a >n7 >     The MP Sync measurement is the amount of time thee4 > system spends synchronizing tasks across Symmetric; > Multiprocessing Systems.  There are several possibilities0< > as to what's going on.  If you have access to DSNLink, theH > article "Excessive Amounts Of "MP Synchronization" Time On SMP System"
 > might help.d >"E >     The RWSCS process state is described as follows (from DSNLink):  > B > Is used by the distributed lock manager in a cluster environment@ > when the requested lock information, or lock request, requiresA > using the System Communication Services to communicate with theeB > lock manager on another node of the cluster.  Once the necessary= > communication is done, the process will continue executing.g >bF > Depending on what you are doing, the number of distributed locks may# > be normal, and may not be normal.s >t > David R. Beatty. >"C > On Sat, 5 May 2001 01:59:34 +0800, "Kenneth" <abc@abc.com> wrote:  >  > >Dear all, > >=J > >1. I am new to VMS admin and tunning, when I "MON MODE" on my system, IK > >found that the CPU usage on MP SYNC is about 50% of the total CPU usage. # > >What kind of tunning I can make?  > > L > >2. On my system some batch job seems never ended with the status "RWSCS"?I > >When I try to "MON DLOCK", it's about 3000 between the system. Is this. causee > >the problem?g > >" > >/ > >b >e   ------------------------------  $ Date: Sun, 6 May 2001 11:22:35 +0800 From: "Kenneth" <abc@abc.com> # Subject: Re: MP sync high CPU usage 0 Message-ID: <9d2flc$fo83@imsp212.netvigator.com>  E I don't know if I had the DSNLink access, can you talk more about the  article on MP sync and RWSCS?   7 "David Beatty" <David.Beatty@qwertysasasdfgh.com> ????? , news:bfbyOqH0UqxtHnh6BXPYi6tHGFWI@4ax.com... > % >     Several questions come to mind:r >=. >     1.  What kind of system are you running? >     2.  What version of VMS?, >     3.  What applications are you running?9 >     4.  What other systems are in your cluster and what=+ >          version of VMS are they running?gD >     5.  Does the application run on multiple nodes in the cluster?= >     6.  Is the measurement for MP Sync 50% of one processor > >          or 50% for the entire system?  MONITOR displays its+ >          values as 100% x number of CPUs.e >o7 >     The MP Sync measurement is the amount of time the"4 > system spends synchronizing tasks across Symmetric; > Multiprocessing Systems.  There are several possibilities"< > as to what's going on.  If you have access to DSNLink, theH > article "Excessive Amounts Of "MP Synchronization" Time On SMP System"
 > might help.a >oE >     The RWSCS process state is described as follows (from DSNLink):  > B > Is used by the distributed lock manager in a cluster environment@ > when the requested lock information, or lock request, requiresA > using the System Communication Services to communicate with the B > lock manager on another node of the cluster.  Once the necessary= > communication is done, the process will continue executing.h >=F > Depending on what you are doing, the number of distributed locks may# > be normal, and may not be normal.n >i > David R. Beattyf >iC > On Sat, 5 May 2001 01:59:34 +0800, "Kenneth" <abc@abc.com> wrote:  >  > >Dear all, > > J > >1. I am new to VMS admin and tunning, when I "MON MODE" on my system, IK > >found that the CPU usage on MP SYNC is about 50% of the total CPU usage. # > >What kind of tunning I can make?  > > L > >2. On my system some batch job seems never ended with the status "RWSCS"?I > >When I try to "MON DLOCK", it's about 3000 between the system. Is this  cause  > >the problem?  > >  > >  > >g >o   ------------------------------  % Date: Sat, 05 May 2001 20:30:22 +0200 ) From: Christof Brass <brass@infopuls.com>iG Subject: Re: Multiple languages and Gnome/GTK+/KDE, was: Re: Open Motif , Message-ID: <3AF446BE.D22924E7@infopuls.com>   Fred Kleinsorge wrote: > $ > Re: the previous set of replies... > C > Gnome and KDE are not currently planned, so this is all just idlebI > speculation.  However, my crystal ball suggests that GTK+ and Gnome are I > likely to become the mainstream over Motif and CDE at some point in the"J > future.  I don't see KDE "winning" over Gnome as the mainstream.  So, itK > wouldn't suprise me if some business requirements eventually caused us too; > implement Gnome (a version of GTK+ is already available).> > M > Motif and CDE are not going away for the forseeable future.  There is a lot>I > of code that depends on it, and a number of contracts and certification1L > requirements that specify it.  It just isn't yet clear that the work to doJ > Motif 2.1 and CDE 2.1 is worth the cost - especially if the future isn't > Motif/CDE. > J > As to multi-language support for new GUI's...  for new GUI's I would notM > support doing extensive amounts of work for other languages than C and C++..N > Why?  How many new applications do you believe would be written for GTK+ andN > Gnome that were written in say - Pascal?  Ada?  Fortran?  Now, that isn't toI > say I wouldn't support "some" effort to make it possible - but just how  > much?  > H > The more we diverge from the industry norm on things that are industryE > "standard" the more work it is for us to keep up with changes - and J > Gnome/GTK+/XFre86 are all in that "wild west" phase like X11R2 perhaps -I > lots of changes, lots of evolution.   Just look at the X11 client bits. K > Working alone for maybe a month or so, I could probably port the existing:M > Xlib/Xt/Xm sample implementation *as is* on a recent baselevel of VMS (hecknM > I even know where I can lay my hands on one that is already done).   But to L > make all of the VMS-specific changes to "integrate" into a VMS environmentE > takes a lot more time.  The less of this we need to do, the better.i  @ From my point of view the end of C/C++ is there. I know of major9 projects which decided against these technically obsoleteh= languages. And the number of projects failed with help of thet@ flaws of these languages is legion. Some of them well documented like Taligent.  > Open source offers the possibility for VMS engineering to only< do the VMS specific part. There are examples for open source@ development where the VMS specific part has been fed back to the developers.i   ------------------------------  % Date: Sat, 05 May 2001 20:27:37 +0200 ) From: Christof Brass <brass@infopuls.com>t Subject: Re: Open Motif , Message-ID: <3AF44619.6A268522@infopuls.com>   "Doug W." wrote: >  > Fred Kleinsorge wrote:N > > I myself would prefer us to implement Gnome/GTK+/KDE rather than invest in > new versions of Motif. >  > Larry Kilgallen wrote:G > >>Sure, experiment with other things, but finish porting Motif first.  > N > Years ago I attended a DEC nondisclosure on the fairly new Alpha.  The AlphaO > news was exciting.  But 2 of my favorite technologies appeared doomed.  Motif O > was going into mothballs to lower costs and DEC announced it was charging for > > Macro64.  I wrote off both under VMS and have not gone back. > M > As a customer I now ask myself how open a technology is before using it for O > anything critical.  Are the specs in the public domain?  Is source available?iO > Gnome, GTK, KDE and QT (lately) are all open. The price is right and they may/Q > be easier (cheaper) to support on VMS.  Both GNOME & KDE have applications withrP > functionality not available under VMS.  I can not remember the last time I sawO > anyone using DECWRITE.  Open source would allow VMS to participate in markets P > it had to give up.  It could become a player again and allow me to ditch my PCQ > which currently is essential.  If small outfits like Red Hat can do it, why noto > VMS? > O > The Q will have to chose which way it wants to go.  But if cost, manpower andsJ > the future are VMS concerns, Motif does not look viable.  Also, there isB > keeping up with your competition.  I hope everyone has looked at& > www.sun.com/gnome and related pages. > N > Open source is no longer experimentation, its accepted business strategy forJ > large vendors.  Hopefully VMS can take advantage of the opportunities itO > offers.  The Motif experience shows time works against you.  If your going tor3 > change strategy, do it soon or it may not matter.   ; Completely agreed. VMS should be open source the sooner theo better.    ------------------------------  % Date: Sat, 05 May 2001 17:20:04 -0400s2 From: norm lastovica <norman.lastovica@oracle.com>@ Subject: Oracle Rdb Internals Class June 25-29, Reading, England* Message-ID: <3AF46E84.A9566DBB@oracle.com>  F The Oracle Rdb Engineering Group is happy to announce new offerings ofH the Rdb Internals course for 2001. This course has been recently updatedB to include descriptions of the new features in Rdb release 7.1. ItB includes information on the Database Standard Relational Interface@ (DSRI), data structures, internal algorithms, and implementation= details. This information is intended for individuals who are D responsible for providing in-depth support for Oracle Rdb databases:H complex problem analysis and resolution or detailed performance analysis and tuning.   A The next offering will be in the UK during the week of June 25th. ? Courses are also being planned for Tokyo, Japan and Nashua, NewiE Hampshire in the United States later in the year. The dates for thesegF later courses are not yet set but will most likely be in September forB Tokyo and October for Nashua. Updates for Tokyo and Nashua will be@ posted at http://www.oracle.com/rdb/ as more information becomes
 available.  + Registration in now open for the UK course:/   Date: 25-29 June 2001aD Location: Thames Valley Park, 540 Reading, Berkshire, United Kingdom! Course Title: Rdb Internals Classr Course Number: RDB5    To register go to;  C http://www.oracle.com/uk/education/course_area/index.html?book.htmle  C I will also remind you that registration is open for the Rdb ForumseH being held this June in Stockholm, Paris and Berlin. The Forums are yourH chance to learn of the latest developments with Oracle Rdb directly from@ the engineering team and some of our most experienced customers.  H Forums will be held in Stockholm on June 14 and 15, Paris on June 18 andE 19 and Berlin on June 21 and 22. Both the Paris and Berlin forums are E being held in conjunction with Oracle Open World. Forums will also be/D held in Australia (date yet to be finalized) and in San Francisco in	 December.   3 To learn more and to register for the Forums, go tov       http://www.oracle.com/rdb/  > and click on the link for Oracle Rdb Technical Forums for 2001  D You have received this message because of your business relationshipC with Oracle Rdb.  If your name is on our list in error, if you have=C received multiple copies of this message or if you would like to be E excluded from future mailings, please reply to this address with youri
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 Sincerely,   Kevin Duffyo Director of Development  Oracle Rdb Engineering Group   ------------------------------  % Date: Sun, 06 May 2001 00:10:43 +0100 % From: Alan Greig <a.greig@virgin.net>d Subject: OT: Pioneer 10 lives!* Message-ID: <3AF48873.B1354D19@virgin.net>  ? I received a number of emails regarding Pioneer 10 after it was/E mentioned in a thread some time ago so I know some will be interestedlE to know that it's not dead yet! After 8 months of silence Pioneer 10, C launched nearly 30 years ago, responded to an uplink (at almost one E light day round trip time) and DSS 63 (Madrid) locked on to the 16bps > signal at GMT 17:27:30, Saturday, 4/28/01. Since then NASA hasE confirmed that it has regained the ability to command the spacecraft.o" One science instrument remains on.  D http://spaceprojects.arc.nasa.gov/Space_Projects/pioneer/PNStat.html   Pioneer 10 distance from Sun := 77.72 AU Speed relative to the Sun: 12.24 km/sec (27,380 mph)t   Distance from Earth:D 11.76 billion kilometers (7.30 billion miles) Round-trip Light Time: 21 hours 47 minutes"   --
 Alan Greig   ------------------------------   Date: 5 May 2001 14:57:53 -0500r9 From: Kilgallen@eisner.decus.org.nospam (Larry Kilgallen)nY Subject: Re: The DFWCUG's DFWDAYS 2001 Presentations are online (as well as a few  photos 3 Message-ID: <e9aa$qpoc0wD@eisner.encompasserve.org>   t In article <k2RI6.14520$V%6.4734202@typhoon.ne.mediaone.net>, "Terry C. Shannon" <terryshannon@mediaone.net> writes: >>) >> "Brian Schenkenberger, VAXman-" wrote:b >> >I >> > How is it that you boys in the DFWCUG can pull together your event'sv	 > sessiontL >> > materials in a matter of days and get them published on the web and the > CETSI >> > national event -- now 6 months and counting prior -- can't get theira	 > event'sr3 >> > sessions together and distributed as promised?0 >> > I > CETS2001 involves the coordination of resources from Encompass, several&K > entities within Compaq, and Compaq's event management staff and partners.bK > The logistics associated with a week-long event for 4-5K people are a bitfK > more daunting than the logistics associated with an event for 200 people, K > especially when the latter event which is locally managed and controlled.e > I > To get an idea of what has gone into the making of CETS2001 so far, you"M > might want to take a look at the CETS2001 Core Content Advisory Team Reporta> > at www.cets2001.com/privatedocs/CETS2001PhaseICATReport.doc.=                                                          ^^^^ , That question was from Brian Schenkenberger.   ------------------------------  % Date: Sat, 05 May 2001 17:30:56 -0400t2 From: norm lastovica <norman.lastovica@oracle.com>" Subject: Re: VAX vs AXP executable* Message-ID: <3AF47110.979DDFDF@oracle.com>  / something along these lines should work for you:  3 $ if p1 .eqs. "" then $inquire p1 "image file name"t* $ open/read/share file 'f$parse(p1,".exe") $ read file header $ close file  $ if f$cvsi(0,16,header) .ge. 80# $ then write sys$output "VAX image"-% $ else write sys$output "Alpha image"d $ endif    Robert Deininger wrote:t > G > In article <3_TI6.23660$V6.1080190@typhoon.mn.mediaone.net>, Ed Wilts  > <ewilts@mediaone.net> wrote: > O > > I'm about to retire the last of my Vaxes (he says with fond memories).   Is O > > there a relatively fast and easy way for me to identify a VAX executable astO > > opposed to an AXP exe?  I'm looking to write a script that will archive alle > > the old VAX exes.  > * > $ analyze/image/interactive [.*]free.exe% > This is an OpenVMS Alpha image filet >  > IMAGE HEADER > " >         Fixed Header Information > 7 >                 image format major id: 3, minor id: 0 ' >                 header block count: 2 5 >                 image type: executable (EIHD$K_EXE)t >  > <snip> > ( > ANALYZE/IMAGE/INTERACTIVE [.*]FREE.EXE# > This is an OpenVMS VAX image file  >  > IMAGE HEADER > " >         Fixed Header Information > 9 >                 image format major id: 02, minor id: 05/' >                 header block count: 1 4 >                 image type: executable (IHD$K_EXE) > K > You could capture the output of ANALYZE/IMAGE and look at the first line.e@ > If you don't care about speed, that might be the simplest way. > J > Or you could write a little program to open the file check pieces of theH > image header.  Unfortunately, Vax and alpha image headers are arranged? > differently, and I don't see a simple way to tell them apart.o > @ > $ lib/extract=$eihddef/output=$eihddef.mar sys$library:lib.mlb> > $ lib/extract=$ihddef/output=$ihddef.mar sys$library:lib.mlb > J > These two .MAR files define the offsets and constanst for the fixed partI > of the image header, for alpha and vax respectively.  Maybe if you dump?L > the first block of each kind of file, and compare to analyze/image, you'llK > find a rule of thumb precise enough to tell the two kind of images apart.  > H > If you have the Internals and Data structures books, they describe the > image headers in detail. > = > This looks like brute force, but I don't know a simple way.  >  > -- > Robert Deininger > rdeininger@mindspring.com    -- ?> norman lastovica / oracle rdb engineering / usa / 610.696.4685   ------------------------------  % Date: Sun, 06 May 2001 01:29:06 +0100 # From: none <no@spam.spam.eggs.spam>n9 Subject: XFC was Re: V7.3 in clusters w/earlier versions? 3 Message-ID: <3AF4A8E2.3B2FBED3@spam.spam.eggs.spam>    Rob Young wrote: > >. > E >         (Getting the above in early as you aren't allowed to be toocL >         excited about XFC.... you see it isn't as good as Linux.  So don't >         get too happy!)e > % >                                 Robd   Rob, you should know better ;-)   H A motorbike is faster than a car but I know which one I fancy my chances in a head on collision.n  A Based on some rough read tests, the XFC considerably shortens thenE elapsed time compared to the CPU time for any test. It wont' get muchhH better unless you're using a RAMdisk or writeback caching, but they have their dangers.  H XFC as I understand is based around the idea that the quickest way to doE an IO is not to do it (or at least not request the subsystem to do it 	 for you).   B Remember the fable of the tortoise and the hare, the XFC just gave rollerblades to the tortoise.M  G And while I'm making comparisons, here's another. VMS is like a bowl ofP9 custard, it's nice hot or cold. Everything else is gravy.    Regards, Nic   ------------------------------  % Date: Sat, 05 May 2001 20:20:38 +0200e) From: Christof Brass <brass@infopuls.com>oK Subject: Re: [INFO] =?iso-8859-1?Q?Z=FCrich?= Tech Update seminar confirmedo, Message-ID: <3AF44476.D2D4D82E@infopuls.com>   Didier Morandi wrote:  > J > I confirm. I will organize a Noters Party, ie a French dinner in a SwissA > restaurant with Italian wine and American meat and some BritishoG > vegetables and peppermint sauce, and with Cuba cigars and if I forgeth > some countries, verzeiung! > E > (for those who wish to know how my German is going, now that I haveOI > started at UBS Zrich for COMPAQ: mein Tee ist kalt und meine Tasse istd > z klein :-) >  > D. >  > Christof Brass wrote:  > > ! > > This is the time to place the ? > > first call for participation at the VMS pasttime activitiesaD > > which will be held around the 18th of May in Zrich organised by# > > me and probably Didier Morandi.r >  > Didier.Morandi@ubs.com > GSM: 079-705.4670t  # Great - hope someone will register!r   ------------------------------   End of INFO-VAX 2001.252 ************************