1 INFO-VAX	Wed, 16 May 2001	Volume 2001 : Issue 269       Contents:* Re: Apologies... It was an accidental Mail RE: Asvr 1000A and a 9GB disk / Re: Broken VMS BACKUP on VMS 7.2 - Continued... ' Re: FS:  Multia done right (correction) ? Gartner Advises...How to Thrive During Difficult Economic Times  Re: Is OpenVMS an UNIX ??? Re: Laser Power event  Re: Laser Power event  Re: Laser Power event , Re: Managing hosts databases with TCPIP V5.x, Re: Managing hosts databases with TCPIP V5.x Re: Mozilla 0.9  NCL? Re: NCL? Re: NCL? Re: NCL? Re: NCL? OT: More Mitnick Re: Question re: Java and C++  Re: Setting Up An FTP Account  Re: Setting Up An FTP Account  Re: Setting Up An FTP Account % Re: Some more bits looking for a home 
 SORT command.  Re: SORT command.  Re: SORT command. # VMS 5.5, UCX 3.3, printing question ' Re: VMS 5.5, UCX 3.3, printing question ' Re: VMS 5.5, UCX 3.3, printing question   F ----------------------------------------------------------------------  # Date: Tue, 15 May 2001 22:07:10 GMT  From: Dirk Munk <munk@home.nl>3 Subject: Re: Apologies... It was an accidental Mail ' Message-ID: <3B01A874.8046B5E8@home.nl>   L No apologies needed. I'm sure many of us will like to hang this quote on the	 wall :-))    Shiv wrote:   C > Zillion Apologies.....  It was an accidental mail to the group...  > Kindly discard.... >  > _  > Shiv > 
 > Shiv wrote:  >  > > -- > > N > > "Technology is dominated by those who manage what they do not understand."N > >                                                   -- Edward A. Murphy, Jr.   ------------------------------  % Date: Tue, 15 May 2001 22:56:49 +0100 5 From: "Steeples, Oliver" <Oliver.Steeples@compaq.com> & Subject: RE: Asvr 1000A and a 9GB diskN Message-ID: <F498D199EDB12D468CD2C66680D3080116D5A0@reoexc04.emea.cpqcorp.net>   Hi, D 	an A1000a has both narrow and wide scsi on the system board and theH storageworks shelf can be either.  It depends on which way the system isF cabled up inside like, either with a 50 pin or 68 pin cable.  With theH A1000a there is about 3 different ways to cable up the scsi and this can cause probs sometime.   5 A RZ1DF-VW (shows as a RZ2DA-LA at >>>) is supported: L http://www.compaq.com/alphaserver/options/as1000a345/as1000a345_options.html storage, disks  J Vms versions over about 7 should see the disk just fine.  Does vms see theK disk at all or just at console??  Have you tried a mc sysman io auto to see  if this works.  K Also if you have any external tape drives hanging off the internal scsi bus G this may put it over length so drives can go missing.  Try removing any 1 external devices and terminate the scsi breakout.    Hope this gives you some ideas.    	Oliver    -----Original Message-----= From: Island Computers US Corp [mailto:dbturner@islandco.com] # Sent: Tuesday, May 15, 2001 3:38 PM  To: Info-VAX@Mvb.Saic.Com & Subject: Re: Asvr 1000A and a 9GB disk    ' RZ2DA-LA is a base "brick" part number.   J This RZ1DA-LA is the part used in the DS-RZ1DF-VW, RZ1DA-VW et., and is an! 9./1GB 7200rpm LVD/SE disk drive.   E You cannot use it in a NARROW 8 Bit environment as far as I am aware.   D Do you have the narrow or wide controller installed (or is it on the$ motherboard - It's been so so long )K If it's wide - the drive should auto negotiate down to Single Ended Wide or  Ultra Wide.      David    -- Island Computers US Corporation  2700 Gregory Street 	 Suite 150  Savannah GA 31404  Tel: 912 447 6622  Fax: 912 201 0096  sales@islandco.com www.islandco.com  C This message and any files transmitted with it are confidential and J may be privileged and/or subject to the provisions of privacy legislation.H They are intended solely for the use of the individual or entity to whomE they are addressed. If the reader of this message is not the intended 
 recipient,G please notify Island Computers US Corp immediately and then delete this  message.I You are notified that reliance on, disclosure of, distribution or copying  of this message is prohibited.    < "Tomasz Dryjanski" <tdryjanski@hotmail.com> wrote in message( news:9drdhu$18ka$1@news2.ipartners.pl...	 > Hi all,  > J > Is it possible to add a 9GB RZ1DF-VW disk to a 1000A 5/400 Alpha Server?< > We tried, but it is recognized as RZ2DA-LA by the console.L > We have installed the newest console firmware, but it doesn't work anyway., > The SCSI controller is standard, non-RAID. >  > TIA  >  > -- >  > T. D.  >  >    ------------------------------  % Date: Tue, 15 May 2001 16:24:00 -0700 + From: "Barry Treahy, Jr." <treahy@mmaz.com> 8 Subject: Re: Broken VMS BACKUP on VMS 7.2 - Continued...( Message-ID: <3B01BA90.BB87E0CA@mmaz.com>  J It was suggested that the positioning of the /IMAGE qualifier might play aL role in the problem and another said that by manually recreating the aliasesI from the correct location to the system dependent locations might resolve I the problem but I received the same results after both attempts, that the B aliases for SYSBOOT and VMS$COMMON are not being created properly.  % Still open for further suggestions...    Thanks!    Barry    "Barry Treahy, Jr." wrote:  G > Did anyone have any comments or recommended fixes for this particular  > mis-behaviour of BACKUP? > 
 > Regards, >  > Barry % > ----------------------------------- H > I just did two on-line disk to disk backups, with logging off and this	 > is what  > I've seen: > E > V4500$ backup/nolog/nofast/noalias/ignore=(noback,inter) $145$dia0:  > $145$dia1:/imageJ > %BACKUP-W-AFNOTSAVED, alias file $145$DIA0:[SYS0]SYSCOMMON.DIR;1 was not > saved J > %BACKUP-W-AFNOTSAVED, alias file $145$DIA0:[SYSEXE]SYSBOOT.EXE;1 was not > saved C > V4500$ backup/nolog/nofast/alias/ignore=(noback,inter) $145$dia0:  > $145$dia1:/imageJ > %BACKUP-W-AFNOTSAVED, alias file $145$DIA0:[SYS0]SYSCOMMON.DIR;1 was not > saved  > V4500$ > E > Now I can see why the first failed to boot because the alias to the 
 > SYSBOOT was I > broke.  What I do not understand is why the second backup still ignored  > the ? > SYSCOMMON aliases, thereby producing a bad VMS tree, but more  > importantly itD > ALSO failed to recreate the SYSBOOT aliases even though it did not > report any	 > errors:  > = > V4500$ dir/file $145$dia0:[000000...]sysboot.exe,$145$dia1:  > - > Directory $145$DIA0:[SYS0.SYSCOMMON.SYSEXE]  >   > SYSBOOT.EXE;1        (113,1,0) >  > Total of 1 file. >  > Directory $145$DIA0:[SYSEXE] >   > SYSBOOT.EXE;1        (113,1,0) >  > Total of 1 file. > ) > Directory $145$DIA0:[VMS$COMMON.SYSEXE]  >   > SYSBOOT.EXE;1        (113,1,0) >  > Total of 1 file. >  > Directory $145$DIA1:[SYSEXE] >   > SYSBOOT.EXE;1        (113,1,0) >  > Total of 1 file. > ( > Grand total of 4 directories, 4 files. > F > This does appear to be a major flaw in the on-line BACKUP keeping in > mind that 4 > stand-alone version does not exhibit this problem. > % > Any and all comments appreciated...  >  > Barry    --  ? Barry Treahy, Jr  *  Midwest Microwave  *  Vice President & CIO   A E-mail: Treahy@mmaz.com * Phone: 480/314-1320 * FAX: 480/661-7028    ------------------------------  % Date: Wed, 16 May 2001 22:38:56 -0400  From: william.webb@juno.com 0 Subject: Re: FS:  Multia done right (correction)= Message-ID: <20010516.223858.-194471.0.william.webb@juno.com>     It's a *166MHz* Alpha box.  Duh.! Clearly posted too late at night.    WWWebb =================   @ On Tue, 15 May 2001 22:38:21 -0400 william.webb@juno.com writes:F > Doing this from home since the place from which I usually email the G > newsgroup from takes a dim view of their email facilities being used  5 > for personal transactions of a commercial nature...  > E > I've gotten my PW433au up and running so my other Alpha box is for   > sale:  > - > 133 MHz Alpha-based Multia with 128 MB RAM; $ > Installed external SCSI connector; >  > Upgraded cooling fan as per > > http://www.netbsd.org/Ports/alpha/multiafaq.html#overheat --? > Installed the 1 inch deep 18 CFM McMaster-Carr fan that they  
 > mention. > C > DECpc expansion cabinet with RZ28 (2GB) drive, extra cooling fan   > mounted inside   > and RRD45 CD-ROM.  > 5 > SCSI cable to connect expansion box and terminator.  > C > I've done all the gruntwork and have VMS 7.2 running on it under   > hobbyist  6 > licenses (which, of course, are not transferrable).  > F > You supply the keyboard, mouse, monitor (and hobbyist licenses) and 
 > it's yours. F > I'm even willing to install *your* licenses before I ship it out if / > you'll email them when we've reached a deal.   >   > I'm asking $400 or best offer. >  > WWWebb  @ ________________________________________________________________ GET INTERNET ACCESS FROM JUNO!5 Juno offers FREE or PREMIUM Internet access for less! 0 Join Juno today!  For your FREE software, visit:  http://dl.www.juno.com/get/tagj.   ------------------------------  % Date: Tue, 15 May 2001 16:09:42 -0300 ) From: fabio_compaq@ep-bc.petrobras.com.br H Subject: Gartner Advises...How to Thrive During Difficult Economic TimesL Message-ID: <OF0BB4ED79.757EE4E7-ON03256A4D.00692EE0@ep-bc.petrobras.com.br>  & OpenVMS fits in every topic below ....   Regards    FC    7 ---------------------- Encaminhado por Fabio dos Santos H Cardoso/E-P-BC/Contratada em 15/05/2001 16:05 -------------------------= --    4 <insight@insight.gartner.com> em 15/05/2001 16:57:13  D Favor responder a <insight.X4TH07D15FB1388FB6EB@insight.gartner.com>      )       fabio_compaq@ep-bc.petrobras.com.br       H Assunto: Gartner Advises...How to Thrive During Difficult Economic Time= s       H                                                                        =     =20 H                                                                        =     =20 H                                                                        =     =20 H    Gartner Insight - Volume 3, Issue 4, May 2001                       =     =20 H                                                                        =     =20 H    Gartner Advises...How to Thrive During Difficult Economic Times     =     =20 H                                                                        =     =20 H    As the economy slows, many enterprises have resorted to layoffs to s= ave =20 H    money. However, such moves could harm the enterprise in the long run=    =20H    For quite some time, enterprises have built IT infrastructures just = to  =20 H    keep up with the demand of an expanding economy, and now is no time = to  =20 H    slow or jeopardize e-business initiatives. If enterprises must cut t= heir=20 H    budgets, they should look to the everyday areas of their technology.=     =20 H    Accordingly, Gartner has formulated nine proposals that could quickl= y   =20 H    curtail costs in IT practices and procurement, while sparing vital  =     =20 H    e-business intitatives that must remain on track through the plannin= g   =20 H    horizon. Enterprises should do the following:                       =     =20 H                                                                        =     =20 H                                                                        =     =20 H     Consolidate Networking: Consolidate all of the enterprise's network=     =20 H     service spending into one contract. Many enterprises have voice, da= ta, =20 H     mobile and other services from the same network service provider (N= SP).=20 H     In many cases, the enterprise has multiple contracts with the same = NSP =20 H     for the same service, with each contract having a relatively low   =     =20 H     discount. By aggregating the spending into one total amount, the NS= P   =20 H     should grant a higher discount to the enterprise. Consolidating the=     =20 H     enterprise's network spending into one figure to get a higher disco= unt =20 H     is relatively simple and involves no physical changes to the networ= k.  =20 H                                                                        =     =20 H                                                                        =     =20 H     Evaluate Workplace Costs: Facillities represent the second-highest = cost=20 H     behind labor. The workplace continues to become a blend of traditio= nal =20 H     places and cyberspaces, where knowledge work can be done anywhere. =     =20 H     Remote access and virtual workspaces can save enterprises millions = of  =20 H     dollars. Large global companies realize a 10 percent to 15 percent =     =20 H     reduction in infrastructure costs by trading "bricks" for "clicks."=     =20 H                                                                        =     =20 H                                                                        =     =20 H     Measure Business Processes: To avoid cutting people, measure the   =     =20 H     business processes to create budget adjustments. Business activity =     =20 H     monitoring, e-metrics, total cost of ownership and business process=     =20 H     management deliver the intelligence that leads to millions in savin= gs. =20 H     Proper measurement regularly maximizes return on investment. Gartne= r   =20 H     advises enterprises to keep investments in measurement healthy duri= ng a=20 H     tough economy.                                                     =     =20 H                                                                        =     =20 H                                                                        =     =20 H     "Rightsize" Copiers, Printers, Fax Machines and Scanners: These out= put =20 H     equipment fleets can cost an enterprise between 1 percent and 3 per= cent=20 H     of revenue. Enterprises should evaluate newer technologies - e.g., =     =20 H     multifunction printers and new procurement options, including      =     =20 H     cost-per-page service contracts. By developing a comprehensive appr= oach=20 H     that includes rightsizing, procurement based on cost per page and  =     =20 H     ongoing management of the fleets, enterprises can reap significant =     =20 H     savings.                                                           =     =20 H                                                                        =     =20 H                                                                        =     =20 H     Renegotiate Better Conditions and Terms for PCs: Managers should   =     =20 H     evaluate the various ways to reduce costs associated with the use a= nd  =20 H     support of PCs and should choose those that save the enterprise mon= ey  =20 H     or improve its competitve advantage. Price wars are intense in the = PC  =20 H     market, so enterprises can negotiate better deals than ever before.=     =20 H     They should negotiate better terms for PC procurement, support and =     =20 H     service, and they should focus on providing high-payback core servi= ces =20 H     for the staff to deliver.                                          =     =20 H                                                                        =     =20 H                                                                        =     =20 H     Evaluate Server and Storate Infratstructure: Some enterprises may f= ind =20 H     a mountain of waste if they inventory their systems and storage, an= d   =20 H     then take a look at the use levels. To get the most from infrastruc= ture=20 H     investment requires the creation of a permanent cross-functional te= am  =20 H     that handles negotiations and develops a vision that maintains a   =     =20 H     competitive hardware and software infrastructure, identifies must-h= ave =20 H     vs. nice-to-have features, and factors market trends into the      =     =20 H     infrastructure vision.                                             =     =20 H                                                                        =     =20 H                                                                        =     =20 H     Staff Management: Many enterprises reduce staff as a quick fix to  =     =20 H     saving money, buy doing so can hurt the enterprise in the long run.=     =20 H     Human capital management is key to maximizing staff on the most    =     =20 H     important projects during downturns.                               =     =20 H                                                                        =     =20kH                                                                        =     =20 H     Reduce Costs and Keep Operations Staff: An operations group that ha= s   =20 H     quantified projects to improve the use of IT resources can deliver =     =20eH     short-term cost reductions, while maintaining staffing levels. Hard= ware=20 H     and software categories comprise 31 percent of most IT budgets. By =     =20iH     managing the operations group correctly, enterprises can save $2   =     =20AH     million to $5 million.                                             =     =20mH                                                                        =     =20iH                                                                        =     =20iH     Implement a Total Cost of Ownership Strategy: Most enterprises with=  $1 =20-H     billion to $5 billion in revenue can reduce IT support by $4 millio= n to=20:H     $6.5 million using a total cost of ownership (TCO) strategy. TCO   =     =20lH     centers on five controllable items: diversity of desktop operating =     =20 H     systems and office suites, the variety of different service levels,=  the=20oH     number of physical moves made by personnel, the number of physical =     =20 H     desktop locations, and the frequency of major software rollouts.   =     =20aH                                                                        =     =20.H    Analytical Source: Ken McGee, Netowrk Business Management           =     =20 H    GartnerResearch Copyright 2001                                      =     =20 H                                                                        =     =20>H                                                                        =     =20rH                                                                        =     =20iH                                                                        =     =20iH         Visit the Thriving During Difficult Economic Times Focus Area a= t   =20WH                             www.gartner.com/economy                    =     =20iH                                                                        =     =20 H                                                                        =     =20 H    Perspectives                                                        =     =20eH                                                                        =     =20 H    Who Wants to Save a Few Million Dollars in IT Spending?             =     =20sH                                                                        =     =20gH    Just one year ago, during March 2000, many stock indices - especiall= y   =20aH    the NASDAQ - were near or at historic highs. Now, just one year late= r,  =20 H    many of these same stock indices are struggling to stay above the lo= west=20 H    levels of the past five to 10 years. The precipitous fall in stock  =     =20 H    prices, especially within the IT sector, sends signals to some that = we  =20uH    are undergoing a market correction and a welcome return to an era of=     =20bH    more rational stock valuation. Others, however, see the economy on t= he  =20eH    verge of falling into recession. Whether a recession yet exists or  =     =20GH    whether one may be imminent, it is beyond dispute that: U.S. economi= c   =209H    growth is slowing, and an increasing number of U.S.-based company   =     =20wH    executives are warning the market that they will not meet earnings  =     =20 H    expectations in the foreseeable future.                             =     =20iH                                                                        =     =20 H    FREE! Technology Shines Through Downturn Darkness                   =     =20 H                                                                        =     =20nH    Software vendors need to modify their marketing messages and product= s to=20 H    address their customers' concerns during this economic downturn. Be =     =20 H    prepared for longer sales cycles, projects being delayed one quarter=  or =20 H    into a new fiscal year. This will cause your sales force to increase=     =20eH    discounting to try to pull sales into current quarters. This will pu= t a =20.H    lot of pressure on margins, and those vendors who miss their quarter= ly  =20aH    numbers will feel even more pressure from the stock market.         =     =20 H                                                                        =     =207H    FREE! What Are Your Economy Battle Plans?                           =     =20hH                                                                        =     =20sH    Whether 2001 brings a slowdown or a real recession, it will cause mo= re  =20 H    chaos and fierce competition in the software industry. Gartner Dataq= uest=20 H    recommends software vendors put together new product, marketing and =     =20gH    operational plans that allow them to reattack the market and conserv= e   =20vH    revenue. Most valued will be solutions that help to intensify custom= er  =20?H    efforts to boost productivity, generate new revenue and sustain prof= its =20dH    by becoming more efficient. It is clear from the uncertainty in all = the =20eH    market and economic data that software companies should be preparing=     =201H    contingency plans for a variety of potential economic outcomes.     =     =20wH                                                                        =     =201H    FREE! Contingency Planning for an Economic Slowdown in Europe       =     =20iH                                                                        =     =20MH    European CIOs should have contingency plans so they can react quickl= y if=20oH    there is an economic slowdown in Europe. They should also ensure the= ir  =20 H    IS organizations are in a position to exploit any opportunities crea= ted =20gH    by a slowdown.                                                      =     =20 H                                                                        =     =205H                                                                        =     =20.H    Upcoming Events                                                     =     =20tH                                                                        =     =20.H    IT Asset Management 2001                                            =     =20,H    21-23 May, 2001                                                     =     =20 H    San Diego, CA                                                       =     =20eH    IT asset management has become a highly focused and widely recognize= d   =20iH    core business requirement. As a result, the ability to articulate co= sts =20oH    vs. benefits - as well as to redefine existing asset management prog= rams=20eH    - is now of paramount importance. This conference offers a unique   =     =204H    opportunity to explore the life cycle approach to asset management a= nd  =200H    to examine the people, processes and tools required for asset manage= ment=20)H    in the future                                                       =     =20 H                                                                        =     =20 H    Collaborative Commerce                                              =     =20oH    21-22 May, 2001                                                     =     =20mH    Hotel Okura, Amsterdam                                              =     =20eH    As the impact of the web continues to become ever more invasive,    =     =20 H    reaching all areas of the enterprise, the need for collaboration and=     =20 H    synergy cannot be ignored. Profitable implementation of e-marketplac= e   =20rH    solutions will require more than sound strategies, tools and tactics=    =20H    Join Gartner in Amsterdam and find out how your organization can ben= efit=20 H    from collaborative commerce.                                        =     =20bH                                                                        =     =20 H    e-Business                                                          =     =20 H    29-30 May 2001                                                      =     =20iH    Sydney, New South Wales, Australia                                  =     =20IH                                                                        =     =20gH    Future of E - Mexico                                                =     =20_H    31 May - 1 June, 2001                                               =     =20eH    Mexico City, Mexico                                                 =     =20.H                                                                        =     =201H    eSolution Summit                                                    =     =20sH    10-12 June 2001                                                     =     =20OH    San Diego, CA                                                       =     =20.H                                                                        =     =20aH                                                                        =     =20sH    Whats New                                                           =     =200H                                                                        =     =20bH    Web Analytics Will Be a Hot Career Choice                           =     =20 H                                                                        =     =20 H    Gartner defines Web Analytics as the metrics that measure effectiven= ess =20 H    of e-business operations in terms of speed, return on investment and=     =20 H    operational cost improvement to the bottom line. Web analysts must h= elp =20 H    business units prioritize Web channel activities and solutions. Firm= s   =20 H    who do not invest in analytic skills will not be able to meet their =     =20 H    strategic objectives and they should organize the scattered, scarce = and =20 H    expensive skills they have today.                                   =     =20 H                                                                        =     =20 H    Gartner and PeopleSoft Publish SRM Whitepaper                       =     =20oH                                                                        =     =20oH    Gartner recently published an inaugural paper on Supplier Relationsh= ip  =20eH    Management (SRM) in conjunction with PeopleSoft. The whitepaper note= s   =20 H    that SRM has emerged as enterprises seek to create a more discipline= d   =20 H    and strategically-managed structure to optimize, and gain competitor=     =20 H    advantage from, supplier relationships. 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 Bill Pedersen= CCSS Corporation
 www.VMS.St 831-336-2708 ================  < "Steven P. Underwood" <StevenU@POBoxes.com> wrote in message, news:3b006d60.939772493@news.telocity.com...C > It is currently in the Other section, but still only the 1 entry:  > B > http://serverwatch.internet.com/serversort/ossort-other.html#vms >t > Stever > F > On 14 May 2001 17:23:17 GMT, "Bill Pedersen" <pedersen@ccsscorp.com> > wrote: >e- > >That's because they have changed the site.g > >e4 > >It USED to be under the "Commercial Unix" list... > >  > >Now it is no place at all...c > >nC > >I had sent them a note to suggest they add it separately and getv informationy3 > >about the various web servers that run on VMS...v > >  > >--  > >Bill Pedersen > >CCSS Corporation2 > >www.CCSScorp.com  > >831-336-2708  > > A > >"Bill Gunshannon" <bill@triangle.cs.uofs.edu> wrote in message ( > >news:9dp2lv$93l$3@info.cs.uofs.edu... > >> In article D > ><OF7BBFB7CE.D58EFF16-ON03256A49.004A233D@ep-bc.petrobras.com.br>,1 > >>  fabio_compaq@ep-bc.petrobras.com.br writes:r > >> |> Just click > >> |>aC > >> |> http://serverwatch.internet.com/serversort/ossort-main.html  > >>H > >> Did I miss something??  I didn't see VMS, Open or otherwise, listed3 > >> at all.  Not that I would expect it to be.....t> > >>            After all, it is the stealth operating system. > >>	 > >> billd > >> > >> --rH > >> Bill Gunshannon          |  de-moc-ra-cy (di mok' ra see) n.  Three wolvesI > >> bill@cs.scranton.edu     |  and a sheep voting on what's for dinner.. > >> University of Scranton   | C > >> Scranton, Pennsylvania   |         #include <std.disclaimer.h>  > >  > >  >  > Steven P. Underwood,DNRC > Whitinsville,MA  > StevenU@POBoxes.com    ------------------------------   Date: 15 May 2001 20:08:12 GMT- From: "Bill Pedersen" <pedersen@ccsscorp.com>  Subject: Re: Laser Power event. Message-ID: <3b018d03@kerberos.linuxpuppy.net>   Iris:   B Who "said" it was a "Laser Power Event"?  Where did they get their information?   --
 Bill Pedersenr CCSS Corporation www.CCSScorp.com 831-336-2708  4 "Iris Green" <iris.green@intel.com> wrote in message# news:9dravk$su@news.or.intel.com... 	 > Hi all,  > I > We had a VAX node crash, that had to be maually reset 4 times before iteJ > would reboot. We were told that the cause of the crash is a "Laser Power	 > Event".d >o > What does that mean? >  >r > Thx -c >d > Iris Green >e > Email : Iris.green@intel.com >hL > -------------------------------------------------------------------------- -- > ---------------------------e > J > "Now, Here, you see, it takes all the running you can do, to keep in theI > same place. If you want to get elsewhere,you must run at least twice as  fast > as that."= > - > (Through the Looking Glass - Lewis Carroll)  >  >  >    ------------------------------  % Date: Tue, 15 May 2001 22:55:55 +0100 + From: "antonio.carlini" <arcarlini@iee.org>m Subject: Re: Laser Power event' Message-ID: <3B01A5EB.EEEF75E8@iee.org>2  , Well the VAX 7000 series was known as Laser.4 So if it was a VAX 7000 and it experienced some sort of PSU related issue ...   AntonioC     Bill Pedersen wrote: >  > Iris:t > D > Who "said" it was a "Laser Power Event"?  Where did they get their > information? >  > -- > Bill Pederseny > CCSS Corporation > www.CCSScorp.com > 831-336-2708 > 6 > "Iris Green" <iris.green@intel.com> wrote in message% > news:9dravk$su@news.or.intel.com...e > > Hi all,  > > K > > We had a VAX node crash, that had to be maually reset 4 times before it L > > would reboot. We were told that the cause of the crash is a "Laser Power > > Event".a > >e > > What does that mean? > >r > >e	 > > Thx -r > >2 > > Iris Green > >   > > Email : Iris.green@intel.com > > N > > -------------------------------------------------------------------------- > -- > > ---------------------------  > > L > > "Now, Here, you see, it takes all the running you can do, to keep in theK > > same place. If you want to get elsewhere,you must run at least twice as  > fast
 > > as that."  > > / > > (Through the Looking Glass - Lewis Carroll)  > >c > >c > >c   -- F   ---------------2- Antonio Carlini             arcarlini@iee.org/   ------------------------------  # Date: Tue, 15 May 2001 23:32:40 GMT $ From: Scott Vieth <svieth@wi.rr.com> Subject: Re: Laser Power event) Message-ID: <3B01BCF9.B52FF19D@wi.rr.com>   Q Close.  Wasn't the bus for the CPU and memory cards in a DEC 7000 and/or VAX 7000  called the "Laserbus"?  N Maybe there was a problem with the "card cage" where the CPUs and memory cards lived.3 That kind of thing might show up at the >>> prompt.    -Scott   "antonio.carlini" wrote:  . > Well the VAX 7000 series was known as Laser.6 > So if it was a VAX 7000 and it experienced some sort > of PSU related issue ... > 	 > Antonio  >e > Bill Pedersen wrote: > >t	 > > Iris:  > >jF > > Who "said" it was a "Laser Power Event"?  Where did they get their > > information? > >t > > -- > > Bill Pedersen  > > CCSS Corporation > > www.CCSScorp.com > > 831-336-2708 > > 8 > > "Iris Green" <iris.green@intel.com> wrote in message' > > news:9dravk$su@news.or.intel.com...d
 > > > Hi all,t > > >tM > > > We had a VAX node crash, that had to be maually reset 4 times before itiN > > > would reboot. We were told that the cause of the crash is a "Laser Power
 > > > Event".e > > >e > > > What does that mean? > > >  > > >r > > > Thx -m > > >  > > > Iris Green > > >:" > > > Email : Iris.green@intel.com > > >iP > > > -------------------------------------------------------------------------- > > --! > > > ---------------------------t > > >gN > > > "Now, Here, you see, it takes all the running you can do, to keep in theM > > > same place. If you want to get elsewhere,you must run at least twice as  > > fast > > > as that."F > > >c1 > > > (Through the Looking Glass - Lewis Carroll)  > > >= > > >2 > > >  >  > -- >  > --------------- / > Antonio Carlini             arcarlini@iee.orgS   ------------------------------  % Date: Wed, 16 May 2001 10:57:32 +10002B From: "Matt Muggeridge" <Matt.Muggeridge@compaq.ssppaammffree.com>5 Subject: Re: Managing hosts databases with TCPIP V5.x,1 Message-ID: <UkkM6.328$fi2.8134@news.cpqcorp.net>i  L > I am puzzledd as to the reason for keeping 2 copies of the hosts, one that isK > used by the user interface ( TCPIP SHOW HOST) and one that is used by the.. > actual bind server engine (and by nslookup).  I Consider how remote hosts find your systems.  Either you need to copy and I maintain the TCPIP$HOST file on every system in your universe, or you can 3 point all hosts at a singly managed DNS repository.   B If your known universe is small and stable, then keeping copies ofL TCPIP$HOST on every system may be easier than dealing with DNS.  This is howH it used to be done in the early days of the internet.  When this becomesL unmanageable, your pain threshold will be exceeded and you'll find relief byJ learning BIND.  (A book I use and recommend is "DNS and BIND", by Albitz & Liu, published by O'Reilly).  K > For instance, if you use SET HOST to populate the host list of your localsD > network you then have to  use 2 CONVERT/UNIX commands and then SET: > NAME_SERVICE /INITIALISE for the changes to take effect.  E In larger networks the TCPIP$HOST file will contain very few entries. L Typically just your local host name, default router, and BIND server.  MaybeC a few others for ease.  All host names are also managed via the DNS  repository.y  L > *MUST* the two databases be  synchronised, or would most sites just botherI > ediding the .DB files directly and not bother with the TCPIP$HOSTS file  that5 > seems to be used only with SET HOST and SHOW HOST ?e  L I think I see your confusion.  Your comment here suggests a .DB file is keptL on every system??  Anyway, this is not the case.  The way you configure DNS,I is you designate one server to be your PIRMARY server.  Then you manage ah3 single copy of the .DB files on the primary server.i  G All other hosts are configured to look up host names by consulting your  designated PRIMARY server.  F Since now all hosts in your network would rely on availability of yourK PRIMARY server, it is wise to designate other reliable servers as SECONDARY I servers.  In any case, DNS simplifies management of host files by storing   the data in a single repository.   Matt.    ------------------------------  % Date: Tue, 15 May 2001 22:19:00 -0400 - From: JF Mezei <jfmezei.spamnot@videotron.ca> 5 Subject: Re: Managing hosts databases with TCPIP V5.x , Message-ID: <3B01E38F.C387A2EE@videotron.ca>   Matt Muggeridge wrote:N > I think I see your confusion.  Your comment here suggests a .DB file is keptN > on every system??  Anyway, this is not the case.  The way you configure DNS,K > is you designate one server to be your PIRMARY server.  Then you manage a,5 > single copy of the .DB files on the primary server.t    M OK, i think i understand. SET HOST ( the TCPIP$HOSTS ) file is just the localfO hosts available to that node only, whereas the .DB files contain the real data.i  M Since I run the bind server on that node, I didn't see the need to have the 2m  databases, but I understand now.   ------------------------------  % Date: Tue, 15 May 2001 13:47:56 -0400 ; From: "Brian Tillman" <tillman_brian@notnoone.notnohow.com>  Subject: Re: Mozilla 0.9$ Message-ID: <3b016bda$1@news.si.com>  I >For your info, Mozilla 0.9 is available at www.openvms.compaq.com server=  ' But will it run on my VAXes?  Alas, no.  --  A Brian Tillman                   Internet: tillman_brian at si.comrA Smiths Aerospace                          tillman at swdev.si.com = 3290 Patterson Ave. SE, MS      Addresses modified to prevent < Grand Rapids, MI 49512-1991     SPAM.  Replace "at" with "@"8        This opinion doesn't represent that of my company   ------------------------------  % Date: Tue, 15 May 2001 20:35:01 +0100w; From: "Leigh G. Bowden" <LGBowden@bowdenfamily.fsnet.co.uk> 
 Subject: NCL?a/ Message-ID: <9ds10t$bkl$1@newsg2.svr.pol.co.uk>t  G I had the misfortune to try some DECnet V stuff over the last couple of  days.   6 What were they thinking of? A lesson in clarity - not.   ------------------------------  % Date: Tue, 15 May 2001 16:56:25 -0300 ) From: fabio_compaq@ep-bc.petrobras.com.br  Subject: Re: NCL?-L Message-ID: <OFEFC3CB6B.3FC971DB-ON03256A4D.006D37BA@ep-bc.petrobras.com.br>  J If I remember Decnet Phase V is based in ISO/OSI. I studied ISO/OSI a long timeJ ago because the brazilian government bureaus decided (by law) to work only with= OSI protocols:.... no practical  way to implement that stuff.   J The technicians of the Open Systems Consortium in Brazil - which decided -
 now are in the "ostracism".   Regardsy   FC        C "Leigh G. Bowden" <LGBowden@bowdenfamily.fsnet.co.uk> em 15/05/2001  16:35:01  G Favor responder a "Leigh G. Bowden" <LGBowden@bowdenfamily.fsnet.co.uk>m             Info-VAX@Mvb.Saic.Com       
 Assunto: NCL?     G I had the misfortune to try some DECnet V stuff over the last couple of  days.   6 What were they thinking of? A lesson in clarity - not.   ------------------------------  # Date: Tue, 15 May 2001 20:29:00 GMT = From: system@SendSpamHere.ORG (Brian Schenkenberger, VAXman-)  Subject: Re: NCL? 0 Message-ID: <009FC0E4.9CA1211D@SendSpamHere.ORG>  m In article <9ds10t$bkl$1@newsg2.svr.pol.co.uk>, "Leigh G. Bowden" <LGBowden@bowdenfamily.fsnet.co.uk> writes: H >I had the misfortune to try some DECnet V stuff over the last couple of >days. > 7 >What were they thinking of? A lesson in clarity - not.  >  >   A If you have any networking background and studied or are familiarr@ with the OSI 7 layer network model, NCL syntax makes much sense.  ? If you find the NCL command syntax to lack clarity, you'll puken? up your vital organs when you see the syntax of any unix shell.e   --O VAXman- OpenVMS APE certification number: AAA-0001     VAXman(at)TMESIS(dot)COMa             O city, n., 1. a place where trees are cut down and streets are named after them.b   ------------------------------  % Date: Wed, 16 May 2001 06:50:20 +0100i  From: Paul Sture <paul@sture.ch> Subject: Re: NCL?i+ Message-ID: <VA.00000395.4cd0e74d@sture.ch>   F In article <9ds10t$bkl$1@newsg2.svr.pol.co.uk>, Leigh G. Bowden wrote:= > From: "Leigh G. Bowden" <LGBowden@bowdenfamily.fsnet.co.uk>s > Newsgroups: comp.os.vms  > Subject: NCL? ' > Date: Tue, 15 May 2001 20:35:01 +0100  > I > I had the misfortune to try some DECnet V stuff over the last couple ofn > days.l > 8 > What were they thinking of? A lesson in clarity - not. >c@ Which is pretty similar to my first reaction to it, 5 years ago.  B However, over time, a combination of better documentation, better D supplied command procedures, and "time to sink in" has made it much F easier to use. As Brian suggests, an understanding of the OSI 7 layer  model helps greatly.   ___2
 Paul Sture Switzerlandt   ------------------------------  % Date: Wed, 16 May 2001 01:25:13 -0400s- From: JF Mezei <jfmezei.spamnot@videotron.ca>  Subject: Re: NCL? , Message-ID: <3B020F36.333FEDA8@videotron.ca>   Paul Sture wrote: C > However, over time, a combination of better documentation, betterkE > supplied command procedures, and "time to sink in" has made it much G > easier to use. As Brian suggests, an understanding of the OSI 7 layer  > model helps greatly.    K I downgraded to DECNET-5 for a while on a node to try it.  The NCL commandsdK themselves may be more complex, but what got to me was trying to understandvC what command procedure was called by whom and where it all gets itstM information. Having to work a long time to figure out which command procedure)M has the  incantation that generates a gazillion OPCOM messages was one reasonn. where I gave up and upgraded back to DECNET 4.  J If there had been only 7 command procedures, one for each layer that setupN your network, and each would contain all the commands for that layer (multipleJ circuits/lines etc), it would have been a lot easier to manage/comprehend.  F It also seemed next to impossible to take a "snapshot" of your networkK configuration, play with it as you wish and then restore it. This is fairly  straightforwards with DECNET-4.=  L Yes, with better documentation, the experience might have been easier. But IE think that the VMS implementation could have been simplified greatly.w  * Glad I am back to a trouble free DECNET-4.   ------------------------------  % Date: Tue, 15 May 2001 15:10:58 -0700 ! From: Shane.F.Smith@Healthnet.comG Subject: OT: More Mitnick D Message-ID: <OF693DB7D8.0811D865-ON88256A4D.0079AF35@foundation.com>  1 http://www.theregister.co.uk/content/6/18950.html   E It's a story about alleged phone redirecting to steal business in Las H Vegas, but Kevin Mitnick gets involved halfway down. Further evidence toG support the contentions on this group a while back that he was a social # engineer more than he was a hacker.p   Shanep   ------------------------------   Date: 15 May 2001 19:58:19 GMT- From: ejheller@aol.com.nojunk (Edward Heller)2& Subject: Re: Question re: Java and C++: Message-ID: <20010515155819.28221.00007351@ng-fi1.aol.com>  O Thanks for the replies. I will try the compiler upgrade. In between my originallO post and now, we appear to have beaten our head on the correct side. By turning N the process around, we were able to get the process to work. Generating a mainI C program that is statically linked with the shared image file apparently G provides the proper initialization. This provides the resolution to the=L problem, however, it definitely not the most elegant solution. Again, thanks for the support.    
 Edward Heller 
 TransCore ITS 4 "All musings contained within are mine, mine alone."   ------------------------------  % Date: Tue, 15 May 2001 13:22:39 -0400 , From: "Fletcher Hearns" <hearns@softapp.com>& Subject: Re: Setting Up An FTP Account) Message-ID: <9drose$9uv1@news1.gtech.com>o  L Some FTP clients pass the password as "password" so VMS doesn't uppercase it$ and give you login invalid attempts.  3 Try UPPERCASING both the username and the password.d     Fletcher) <bigfoot@tgreenwood.com> wrote in message:$ news:9dqson$2fg$1@news.netmar.com...I > In article <3aff941c.2277627@news.jamison1.pa.home.com>, Still Learning= > <adroso@home.com> writes:SI > >I'm new at this, so go easy on me ... I have a user account on my V7.2.I > >VAX that I want to login to via FTP from a PC on my LAN, but each time I > >it tells me Login Incorrect even though I *KNOW* I'm using the correcttF > >username and password.  I can get in using my SYSTEM account, and IH > >copied the SYSTEM account to the username I want to use in AUTHORIZE,H > >but it won't accept the new username.  Obvious, I'm missing something > >.... what is it?a >.I > The one that always catches me out is making sure the username is valide forn7 > network login - use MOD username/NETWORK in AUTHORIZEV >.& > ------------------------------------ > Tony Greenwood
 > Logabex Ltd.1 > Swap email address around until it looks right!< >l >i >lF >  -----  Posted via NewsOne.Net: Free (anonymous) Usenet News via the	 eb  ----- H >   http://newsone.net/ -- Free reading and anonymous posting to 60,000+ groupsK >    NewsOne.Net prohibits users from posting spam.  If this or other postsa< > made through NewsOne.Net violate posting guidelines, email abuse@newsone.net>   ------------------------------   Date: 16 May 2001 00:15:28 GMT5 From: ccburgess@uqstu.jdstory.uq.edu.au (Ian Burgess) & Subject: Re: Setting Up An FTP Account. Message-ID: <9dsgr0$unb$1@bunyip.cc.uq.edu.au>  a In article <3aff941c.2277627@news.jamison1.pa.home.com>, adroso@home.com (Still Learning) writes:@G >I'm new at this, so go easy on me ... I have a user account on my V7.2iG >VAX that I want to login to via FTP from a PC on my LAN, but each timeeG >it tells me Login Incorrect even though I *KNOW* I'm using the correctnD >username and password.  I can get in using my SYSTEM account, and IF >copied the SYSTEM account to the username I want to use in AUTHORIZE,F >but it won't accept the new username.  Obvious, I'm missing something >.... what is it?   6 To reduce the "stab in the dark" answers, please show     UAF> show newuser o  E then for the directory shown next to "Default:" e.g., dev:[directory]3  ,  $ Dir /security  dev:[000000]directory.dir   D You probably ought to say what version of VMS and what TCP/IP stack,+ though I suspect it won't be relevant here.l  D Do not pay any attention to people who mention CASE of username and ' password; in VMS that's never an issue.d   Ian Burgess  University of Queensland I.Burgess@its.uq.edu.aue www.its.uq.edu.aue   ------------------------------  # Date: Wed, 16 May 2001 02:34:23 GMT-& From: adroso@home.com (Still Learning)& Subject: Re: Setting Up An FTP Account: Message-ID: <3b01e48d.153965723@news.jamison1.pa.home.com>  C Thanks to everyone for your thoughts.  I investigated nearly all of E your suggestions.  I have it working now and I'm a happy guy.  I made C some changes to the new account (most notably, the /DEV) and once I0E shut down the FTP server and restarted it, it was fine.  The /DEV wascE refering to a device logical (it still should've worked, shouldn't iteF have?) and when I changed it to the actual device name, that's when itE worked (or so it seems ... I may have made another change at the samel8 time that I don't recall right now).  Thanks again, all!   ------------------------------  % Date: Wed, 16 May 2001 04:00:48 +0100 Q From: Aidan Karley <aidan@karley.go-and-spam-me-you-sweaty-toads.freeserve.co.uk> . Subject: Re: Some more bits looking for a homeY Message-ID: <VA.000001d0.1a5f70d4@karley.go-and-spam-me-you-sweaty-toads.freeserve.co.uk>a  C In article <8766f37n3p.fsf@prep.synonet.com>, Paul Repacholi wrote:  > Without some oldI > SMD drives, yu would be working VERY hard to pull 1KW in a qbus system.? > D      Yeah, reading the stuff in the FAQ at www.pdp11.org I see that G although some highly loaded 11/70s were said to pull 6kW, by the early -H 80's when this one seems to have been made they were running in the 1kW  range. That's not a problem.J      I still put an advert in the paper for another 19" rack though. I'll % find a use for one, if I can get one.i        Aidan Karley	 Aberdeen, 	 Scotland.rB Message written at Tue, 15 May 2001 16:39 +0100, but posted later.   ------------------------------  % Date: Tue, 15 May 2001 20:44:58 +0100-; From: "Leigh G. Bowden" <LGBowden@bowdenfamily.fsnet.co.uk>M Subject: SORT command./ Message-ID: <9ds10u$bkl$2@newsg2.svr.pol.co.uk>   L I tried to sort to text files which is the output from two different systems SYSUAF files in brief form.0  B On a third machine I did SORT/KEY=(POS:22,SIZE:4,DECIMAL,UNSIGNED)6 NODE1::SYSUAF.TXT, NODE2::SYSUAF.TXT SORTED_SYSUAF.TXT  H This is a sort of rationalisation process of our operator ID's which areF four digit integers. Doing the above ended up with two ID's of 42, forH example, which were duplicates of one another in the output file. I alsoK tried to use the /DUPLICATE clause but then ended up with no operator ID 42jK in the output file which is not what I expected. What I had expected was to G have a single entry for 42 (or two entries if the entry for 42 was even , slightly different) but not no entry at all.  3 All system are VAX running flavours of OpenVMS 6.2.    ------------------------------  % Date: Tue, 15 May 2001 16:34:55 -0400d- From: Michael Austin <miaustin@bellsouth.net>  Subject: Re: SORT command.- Message-ID: <3B0192EF.1BF245E9@bellsouth.net>c  $ didn't you mean to do /NOduplicate ?   Michael Austin DBA Consultant   "Leigh G. Bowden" wrote:  N > I tried to sort to text files which is the output from two different systems > SYSUAF files in brief form.- >-D > On a third machine I did SORT/KEY=(POS:22,SIZE:4,DECIMAL,UNSIGNED)8 > NODE1::SYSUAF.TXT, NODE2::SYSUAF.TXT SORTED_SYSUAF.TXT >eJ > This is a sort of rationalisation process of our operator ID's which areH > four digit integers. Doing the above ended up with two ID's of 42, forJ > example, which were duplicates of one another in the output file. I alsoM > tried to use the /DUPLICATE clause but then ended up with no operator ID 42aM > in the output file which is not what I expected. What I had expected was to7I > have a single entry for 42 (or two entries if the entry for 42 was eveno. > slightly different) but not no entry at all. >P5 > All system are VAX running flavours of OpenVMS 6.2.t   ------------------------------   Date: 15 May 2001 18:13 PDTe) From: rankin@eql.caltech.edu (Pat Rankin)t Subject: Re: SORT command./ Message-ID: <15MAY200118135992@eql.caltech.edu>e  0 In article <9ds10u$bkl$2@newsg2.svr.pol.co.uk>,\@  "Leigh G. Bowden" <LGBowden@bowdenfamily.fsnet.co.uk> writes...F > I tried to sort to text files which is the output from two different% > systems SYSUAF files in brief form.y > D > On a third machine I did SORT/KEY=(POS:22,SIZE:4,DECIMAL,UNSIGNED)8 > NODE1::SYSUAF.TXT, NODE2::SYSUAF.TXT SORTED_SYSUAF.TXT  <      Your data is entirely ASCII text.  Falsely telling SORT@ that the key is packed decimal binary data is guaranteed to give bogus results.  >      You're going to need to use a sort specification file--or? else reformat the data before sorting--if you want to treat the ? UIC values as sensible multi-digit numbers.  In particular, thef; shorter digit sequences will need to be padded with leadingc@ spaces in order for them to be right justified and have the same length as the longest sequence.r  @      If you use ``LIST /BRIEF [*,*]'' to create your input files= in the first place, they will already be sorted in UIC order.e> But offhand I can't think of a simple way to merge two of them> together using SORT or MERGE because their UIC ordering is not@ the same as the corresponding ASCII order.  I think you'll still? need a specification file to pad the short numbers with leadingb2 spaces (or zeroes) for use in the key comparisons.  2                 Pat Rankin, rankin@eql.caltech.edu   ------------------------------  # Date: Tue, 15 May 2001 19:34:21 GMTa/ From: cuttler@merlin.albany.net (Brian Cuttler) , Subject: VMS 5.5, UCX 3.3, printing question8 Message-ID: <TwfM6.8790$l5.6802635@newsfeed1.thebiz.net> Keywords: ucx print "job class"   = We are running VMS 5.5 with UCX 3.3 on one of our systems and.+ directing remote printing to a unix system.   ? We would like to set some of the fields on the flag/banner paget? that comes off of the unix system but lack docs. Is there a wayS to do this simply ?t  > We tried $ Print /param=class="xyz" but that caused the job to= fail with error (Final status code) 030AEB1A, which I can not1
 translate.   Any help would be aprecated.  
 thanks, Briana   ---j>    Brian R Cuttler                 brian.cuttler@wadsworth.org3    Computer Systems Support        (v) 518 486-1697r3    Wadsworth Center                (f) 518 473-6384e9    NYS Department of Health        Help Desk 518 473-0773,   ------------------------------   Date: 15 May 2001 20:07:15 GMT- From: "Bill Pedersen" <pedersen@ccsscorp.com>y0 Subject: Re: VMS 5.5, UCX 3.3, printing question. Message-ID: <3b018c84@kerberos.linuxpuppy.net>  I According to my documentation, via the HELP UCX REMOTE_PRINTING, the onlya0 supported options for PRINT/PARAMETER=(...) are:  	 DATA_TYPEi HOST MAIL NOFLAG
 PAGE_LIMIT PAGE_ORIENTATION	 PAGE_SIZE  PRINTERh SHEET_COUNTe
 SHEET_SIZE SIZES   ; It would suggest that what you want to do is not supported.1  F On the other hand, you could set up an LPD queue on the OpenVMS systemI pointing at your printer on the UNIX system, and then with a TELNET relayrH queue to allow you to have full access to the OpenVMS printer format and options.   Bill.m   --
 Bill Pedersen  CCSS Corporation www.CCSScorp.com 831-336-2708< "Brian Cuttler" <cuttler@merlin.albany.net> wrote in message2 news:TwfM6.8790$l5.6802635@newsfeed1.thebiz.net...? > We are running VMS 5.5 with UCX 3.3 on one of our systems and1- > directing remote printing to a unix system.i >pA > We would like to set some of the fields on the flag/banner page-A > that comes off of the unix system but lack docs. Is there a way  > to do this simply ?n >i@ > We tried $ Print /param=class="xyz" but that caused the job to? > fail with error (Final status code) 030AEB1A, which I can notf > translate. >o > Any help would be aprecated. >t > thanks, Brians >i > ---t@ >    Brian R Cuttler                 brian.cuttler@wadsworth.org5 >    Computer Systems Support        (v) 518 486-1697c5 >    Wadsworth Center                (f) 518 473-63849; >    NYS Department of Health        Help Desk 518 473-0773m >    ------------------------------    Date: 15 May 2001 17:18:25 -0500- From: koehler@encompasserve.org (Bob Koehler)d0 Subject: Re: VMS 5.5, UCX 3.3, printing question3 Message-ID: <iu0Mx54WXvoe@eisner.encompasserve.org>e  j In article <TwfM6.8790$l5.6802635@newsfeed1.thebiz.net>, cuttler@merlin.albany.net (Brian Cuttler) writes:? > We are running VMS 5.5 with UCX 3.3 on one of our systems and.- > directing remote printing to a unix system.  > A > We would like to set some of the fields on the flag/banner pagenA > that comes off of the unix system but lack docs. Is there a waye > to do this simply ?t >   F Streams or LPD?  I reverse engineered the LPD flag passing scheme whenE I was passing print from UCX to HP-UX.  Naturally UCX was ULTRIX-like E (therefor BSD-like) and HP-UX was SVID, so they didn't quite have the,F same names for the same flags, but I was able to add a section of codeF to the HP-UX spooler (a Bourne shell script) to interpret most of what UCX had to say.o  F ----------------------------------------------------------------------? Bob Koehler                     | Computer Sciences Corporationn= NASA GSFC Flight Software       | Federal Sector, Civil Group E                                 | please remove ".aspm" when replyingr   ------------------------------   End of INFO-VAX 2001.269 ************************