1 INFO-VAX	Wed, 16 May 2001	Volume 2001 : Issue 270       Contents: Re: Asvr 1000A and a 9GB disk  Re: Asvr 1000A and a 9GB disk ' Authentication and Integrity of Patches   Re: Broken VMS BACKUP on VMS 7.2  Re: Broken VMS BACKUP on VMS 7.2$ cannot connect to XServer over tcpip( Re: cannot connect to XServer over tcpip( Re: cannot connect to XServer over tcpip: Re: Compaq watch: radio ads and Inform - mostly good news.: Re: Compaq watch: radio ads and Inform - mostly good news.: Re: Compaq watch: radio ads and Inform - mostly good news.: RE: Compaq watch: radio ads and Inform - mostly good news.: Re: Compaq watch: radio ads and Inform - mostly good news.: Re: Compaq watch: radio ads and Inform - mostly good news.: Re: Compaq watch: radio ads and Inform - mostly good news.: Re: Compaq watch: radio ads and Inform - mostly good news.: Re: Compaq watch: radio ads and Inform - mostly good news. Re: Console docs URL Re: Console docs URL DFO on system disks  Re: DFO on system disks  Re: DFO on system disks  Re: Failed QIO while unzipping?  Re: Failed QIO while unzipping?   Re: High MP sync CPU utilization  Re: High MP sync CPU utilization Infoserver 1000 does'nt boot  Re: Infoserver 1000 does'nt boot RE: Laser Power event  Monitor System Re: Monitor System Re: Monitor System Mozilla 0.9 applets test Re: Mozilla 0.9 applets test
 Opera browser  Pathworks for SCO UNIX Re: Setting Up An FTP Account  Re: SORT command. / Re: The Internet, Tru64 and other unix variants / Re: The Internet, Tru64 and other unix variants / RE: The Internet, Tru64 and other unix variants / Re: The Internet, Tru64 and other unix variants / Re: The Internet, Tru64 and other unix variants  unable to link madgoat watcher" Re: unable to link madgoat watcher" Re: unable to link madgoat watcherA VMS Engineering and fun/unusual hardware, was: Re: Multimedia Doc  Re: What is RWCLUS Re: What is RWCLUS Re: What is RWCLUS  F ----------------------------------------------------------------------  % Date: Wed, 16 May 2001 09:13:23 +0200 1 From: "Tomasz Dryjanski" <tdryjanski@hotmail.com> & Subject: Re: Asvr 1000A and a 9GB disk. Message-ID: <9dt9ac$295s$1@news2.ipartners.pl>  F > This has previously been discussed and has to do with the disklabel.( > see the following thread for more info > ; > http://aa11.cjb.net/tru64_unix_managers/2000/11/0433.html    Yes, but the topic covers % "delete Line Feeder using vi editor?"   E I haven't found anything useful in nearby topics, and local search is  unavailable...   T. D.    ------------------------------  % Date: Wed, 16 May 2001 09:19:33 +0200 1 From: "Tomasz Dryjanski" <tdryjanski@hotmail.com> & Subject: Re: Asvr 1000A and a 9GB disk. Message-ID: <9dt9lv$29ad$1@news2.ipartners.pl>  E > an A1000a has both narrow and wide scsi on the system board and the J > storageworks shelf can be either.  It depends on which way the system isH > cabled up inside like, either with a 50 pin or 68 pin cable.  With theJ > A1000a there is about 3 different ways to cable up the scsi and this can > cause probs sometime.    OK, we'll have a look at it.  L > Vms versions over about 7 should see the disk just fine.  Does vms see theI > disk at all or just at console??  Have you tried a mc sysman io auto to  see  > if this works.  H The disk is visible from the system (BTW it's 7.1-1H1), it's possible to< initialize it, but any restore operation to this disk fails.  I > Also if you have any external tape drives hanging off the internal scsi  bus I > this may put it over length so drives can go missing.  Try removing any 3 > external devices and terminate the scsi breakout.   D Thx, but I think it's not the case. There is an external tape device< connected with a 1 meter cable, everything worked OK so far.   > ! > Hope this gives you some ideas.    Thank you for your suggestions!    T. D.    ------------------------------    Date: 16 May 2001 09:23:28 +0200G From: Jan Vorbrueggen <jan@mailhost.neuroinformatik.ruhr-uni-bochum.de> 0 Subject: Authentication and Integrity of PatchesH Message-ID: <y4wv7hkb9r.fsf@mailhost.neuroinformatik.ruhr-uni-bochum.de>  M A note on CPQ's patch web site notes that they are now providing MD5 and SHA1 H message digests for their patches to DUNIX. Why only DUNIX, and why only quarter measures?   C - Surely, CPQ has a certificate signed by Verisign or a similar CA.   C - Even the current solution (using a perl module to check the hash)    would work on VMS.  G - But the correct solution is to use digital signatures, and to provide G   the necessary software to validate a patch file against the signature I   (possibly with attributes to specify the file it applies to) in various L   forms - MACRO-32 probably is the most portable for VMS, but an alternative   in C would be good as well.   I - The VMS CD could contain the verification program as an executable (the K   CD can be considered a trusted source) and the basic certificate from the /   CA which is needed to validate the signature.   I - And, of course, much of the development can be shared among the various 7   environments CPQ supports (VMS, DUNIX, Win32, Linux).    	Jan   ------------------------------   Date: 16 May 2001 13:14:35 GMT% From: afeldman@elsewhere.gfigroup.com ) Subject: Re: Broken VMS BACKUP on VMS 7.2 * Message-ID: <9dtufr$226$1@news.netmar.com>  J In article <Pine.LNX.4.21.0105151655420.19807-100000@irys.stanpol.com.pl>,: Gotfryd Smolik, VMS lists <gotfryd@stanpol.com.pl> writes:- >On Tue, 15 May 2001, Jonathan Boswell wrote:  >  >>+Dirk Munk wrote: B >>+> You should see [vms$common] entries, not [syscommon] entries. >>+ D >>+Oh dear.  Both my system disks (VAX and Alpha) have this problem. >>+ J >>+> There is a simple way to repair this, but I would have to look it up. >>+ : >>+Where might I look for this repair?  Thanks in advance! > 6 > Be aware: the step fixes the filename, not backlink.? > You can STILL correct the backlink - but on live system... ;>  >(see after cited text) 3 >++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++ 5 >From zessin@my-dejanews.com Tue May 15 16:55:32 2001 $ >Date: Thu, 25 Mar 1999 22:06:36 GMT* >From: Uwe Zessin <zessin@my-dejanews.com> >To: Info-VAX@Mvb.Saic.ComB >Subject: Re: Batch queue filenames in 7.1-2 wrong for SYS$MANAGER >[...] >What usually works is: % >$ set DEFAULT SYS$SYSDEVICE:[000000] & >$ rename VMS$COMMON.DIR SYSCOMMON.DIR& >$ rename SYSCOMMON.DIR VMS$COMMON.DIR > F >This fixes the filename entry *in* the file header (which is wrong onF >your disk[1]) unless [000000]VMS$COMMON.DIR is not the primary entry.G >Then you have to hunt for it and place it in [000000]. I've once found : >a disk with *NO* VMS$COMMON.DIR and the primary entry was >[SYSE]SYSCOMMON.DIR.  >  >[1] You can check that with: ? >    $ DUMP /HEADER /BLOCKS=COUNT=0 disk:[000000]VMS$COMMON.DIR 9 >    It's after "File name"  below "Identification area".  > - >Please take a BACKUP/IMAGE before you begin!  >  >--  >Uwe Zessin , >+++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++ > = > If the backlink DID is wrong - RENAME must also correct it.  > : > BUT - you must "move" the names between directories. And? >you must "lose" whole SYS$SYSROOT (means: not "see" it between 8 >the RENAME) then will propose working from CD-ROM boot;> >do NOT in on the "live" system disk :) (Sure, you CAN recover> >even from RENAMEd SYS$SYSROOT directories from any privileged7 >interactive session, DEFINE doesn't use any image, but 5 >you users may be not happy with all side effect :>!)  > 9 > The expected "original" is [000000]VMS$COMMON.DIR, then 7 >if the DID is wrong it must be in [SYSn]SYS$COMMON.DIR  > 
 > What do:* >$ SET FILE [000000]VMS$COMMON.DIR;/REMOVE; > Be aware: *if* something goes wrong you can still /REPAIR 0 > the disk and get the directory in [SYSLOST] :); >$ RENAME [SYS0]SYSCOMMON.DIR - ! supose n=0 for most cases  >	[000000]VMS$COMMON8 >$ SET FILE [000000]VMS$COMMON.DIR/ENTER=[SYS0]SYSCOMMON >  > Regards - Gotfryd   L The method to fix this is given in OpenVMS V6.2 Release Notes, Sec. 3.3.1.9:   $ SET DEF DISK:[000000] - $ SET FILE/ENTER=SYSCOMMON.DIR VMS$COMMON.DIR   $ SET FILE/REMOVE VMS$COMMON.DIR% $ RENAME SYSCOMMON.DIR VMS$COMMON.DIR   N I fixed this problem on one of my system disks just a few days ago! I did thisD on a running, but quiet system (no users, one batch job) without anyI problems. I believe this works because the alias entries in [SYSn] remain L unaltered throughout the procedure and always point to the right directory.    Alan E. Feldman  Disclaimer: JMHO  O  -----  Posted via NewsOne.Net: Free (anonymous) Usenet News via the Web  ----- M   http://newsone.net/ -- Free reading and anonymous posting to 60,000+ groups I    NewsOne.Net prohibits users from posting spam.  If this or other posts L made through NewsOne.Net violate posting guidelines, email abuse@newsone.net   ------------------------------   Date: 16 May 2001 13:15:27 GMT% From: afeldman@elsewhere.gfigroup.com ) Subject: Re: Broken VMS BACKUP on VMS 7.2 * Message-ID: <9dtuhf$24u$1@news.netmar.com>  J In article <Pine.LNX.4.21.0105151655420.19807-100000@irys.stanpol.com.pl>,: Gotfryd Smolik, VMS lists <gotfryd@stanpol.com.pl> writes:- >On Tue, 15 May 2001, Jonathan Boswell wrote:  >  >>+Dirk Munk wrote: B >>+> You should see [vms$common] entries, not [syscommon] entries. >>+ D >>+Oh dear.  Both my system disks (VAX and Alpha) have this problem. >>+ J >>+> There is a simple way to repair this, but I would have to look it up. >>+ : >>+Where might I look for this repair?  Thanks in advance! > 6 > Be aware: the step fixes the filename, not backlink.? > You can STILL correct the backlink - but on live system... ;>  >(see after cited text) 3 >++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++ 5 >From zessin@my-dejanews.com Tue May 15 16:55:32 2001 $ >Date: Thu, 25 Mar 1999 22:06:36 GMT* >From: Uwe Zessin <zessin@my-dejanews.com> >To: Info-VAX@Mvb.Saic.ComB >Subject: Re: Batch queue filenames in 7.1-2 wrong for SYS$MANAGER >[...] >What usually works is: % >$ set DEFAULT SYS$SYSDEVICE:[000000] & >$ rename VMS$COMMON.DIR SYSCOMMON.DIR& >$ rename SYSCOMMON.DIR VMS$COMMON.DIR > F >This fixes the filename entry *in* the file header (which is wrong onF >your disk[1]) unless [000000]VMS$COMMON.DIR is not the primary entry.G >Then you have to hunt for it and place it in [000000]. I've once found : >a disk with *NO* VMS$COMMON.DIR and the primary entry was >[SYSE]SYSCOMMON.DIR.  >  >[1] You can check that with: ? >    $ DUMP /HEADER /BLOCKS=COUNT=0 disk:[000000]VMS$COMMON.DIR 9 >    It's after "File name"  below "Identification area".  > - >Please take a BACKUP/IMAGE before you begin!  >  >--  >Uwe Zessin , >+++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++ > = > If the backlink DID is wrong - RENAME must also correct it.  > : > BUT - you must "move" the names between directories. And? >you must "lose" whole SYS$SYSROOT (means: not "see" it between 8 >the RENAME) then will propose working from CD-ROM boot;> >do NOT in on the "live" system disk :) (Sure, you CAN recover> >even from RENAMEd SYS$SYSROOT directories from any privileged7 >interactive session, DEFINE doesn't use any image, but 5 >you users may be not happy with all side effect :>!)  > 9 > The expected "original" is [000000]VMS$COMMON.DIR, then 7 >if the DID is wrong it must be in [SYSn]SYS$COMMON.DIR  > 
 > What do:* >$ SET FILE [000000]VMS$COMMON.DIR;/REMOVE; > Be aware: *if* something goes wrong you can still /REPAIR 0 > the disk and get the directory in [SYSLOST] :); >$ RENAME [SYS0]SYSCOMMON.DIR - ! supose n=0 for most cases  >	[000000]VMS$COMMON8 >$ SET FILE [000000]VMS$COMMON.DIR/ENTER=[SYS0]SYSCOMMON >  > Regards - Gotfryd   L The method to fix this is given in OpenVMS V6.2 Release Notes, Sec. 3.3.1.9:   $ SET DEF DISK:[000000] - $ SET FILE/ENTER=SYSCOMMON.DIR VMS$COMMON.DIR   $ SET FILE/REMOVE VMS$COMMON.DIR% $ RENAME SYSCOMMON.DIR VMS$COMMON.DIR   N I fixed this problem on one of my system disks just a few days ago! I did thisD on a running, but quiet system (no users, one batch job) without anyI problems. I believe this works because the alias entries in [SYSn] remain L unaltered throughout the procedure and always point to the right directory.    Alan E. Feldman  Disclaimer: JMHO  O  -----  Posted via NewsOne.Net: Free (anonymous) Usenet News via the Web  ----- M   http://newsone.net/ -- Free reading and anonymous posting to 60,000+ groups I    NewsOne.Net prohibits users from posting spam.  If this or other posts L made through NewsOne.Net violate posting guidelines, email abuse@newsone.net   ------------------------------   Date: 16 May 2001 08:28:11 GMT7 From: Thomas.Hahnemann@nospam_s-t.de (Thomas Hahnemann) - Subject: cannot connect to XServer over tcpip 0 Message-ID: <Oozvf8elmJpy-pn2-ZeK6y9nhvG4c@Tom2>  $ X Toolkit Error: Can't open display . is displayed if I try to connect to a X-Server( on OpenVMS 7.2 on DEC-Alpha over tcpip :'    set display /create /transport=tcpip     mcr exe:draw    or  #    mcr exe:draw -display mynode:0.0     % It works if I create my display with  (    set display /create /transport=decnet or'    set display /create /transport=local   < I've explicitly allowed any access in the security settings.     Thanks in advance    Thomas Hahnemann S&T Systemtechnik GmbH   ------------------------------  % Date: Wed, 16 May 2001 12:32:09 +0200 2 From: Mike Rechtman <michael.rechtman@digital.com>1 Subject: Re: cannot connect to XServer over tcpip + Message-ID: <3B027348.4593CBD8@digital.com>     Have a look at the FAQ, (e.g. at- http://eisner.encompasserve.org/vms/faq.htm ) A and look for topic DECW17 How can I enable the DECwindows TCP/IP  	 transport      ~Mike.   Thomas Hahnemann wrote:  > % > X Toolkit Error: Can't open display 0 > is displayed if I try to connect to a X-Server* > on OpenVMS 7.2 on DEC-Alpha over tcpip :) >    set display /create /transport=tcpip  >    mcr exe:draw  >  > or% >    mcr exe:draw -display mynode:0.0  > & > It works if I create my display with* >    set display /create /transport=decnet > or) >    set display /create /transport=local  > > > I've explicitly allowed any access in the security settings. >  > Thanks in advance  >  > Thomas Hahnemann > S&T Systemtechnik GmbH   --  E --------------------------------------------------------------------- E Usual disclaimer: All opinions are mine alone, perhaps not even that. ? Mike Rechtman                            *rechtman@tzora.co.il* F Kibbutz Tzor'a.                          Voice (home): 972-2-9908337  B   "20% of a job takes 80% of the time, the rest takes another 80%"E ---------------------------------------------------------------------  -----BEGIN GEEK CODE BLOCK-----  Version: 3.1: GCM/CS d(-)pu s:+>:- a++ C++ U-- L-- W++ N++ K? w--- V+++$6 PS+ PE-- t 5? X- tv-- b+ DI+ D-- G e++ h--- r+++ y+++@ ------END GEEK CODE BLOCK------    ------------------------------  % Date: Wed, 16 May 2001 09:01:44 -0400 5 From: "Fred Kleinsorge" <kleinsorge@star.zko.dec.com> 1 Subject: Re: cannot connect to XServer over tcpip 1 Message-ID: <ITuM6.343$fi2.8730@news.cpqcorp.net>   I You need to edit DECW$PRIVATE_SERVER_SETUP.TEMPLATE (renamed to .COM) and L enable TCPIP as a transport (restarting the server or rebooting afterwards).G Then you need to make sure that you have TCP connections enabled in the C security area of the style manager (note that you MUST wildcard the 
 username).        A Mike Rechtman wrote in message <3B027348.4593CBD8@digital.com>... ! >Have a look at the FAQ, (e.g. at . >http://eisner.encompasserve.org/vms/faq.htm )A >and look for topic DECW17 How can I enable the DECwindows TCP/IP 
 >transport >  >  >~Mike.  >  >Thomas Hahnemann wrote: >>& >> X Toolkit Error: Can't open display1 >> is displayed if I try to connect to a X-Server + >> on OpenVMS 7.2 on DEC-Alpha over tcpip : * >>    set display /create /transport=tcpip >>    mcr exe:draw >> >> or & >>    mcr exe:draw -display mynode:0.0 >>' >> It works if I create my display with + >>    set display /create /transport=decnet  >> or * >>    set display /create /transport=local >>? >> I've explicitly allowed any access in the security settings.  >> >> Thanks in advance >> >> Thomas Hahnemann  >> S&T Systemtechnik GmbH  >  >-- F >---------------------------------------------------------------------F >Usual disclaimer: All opinions are mine alone, perhaps not even that.@ >Mike Rechtman                            *rechtman@tzora.co.il*E >Kibbutz Tzor'a.                          Voice (home): 972-2-9908337nC >  "20% of a job takes 80% of the time, the rest takes another 80%"tF >---------------------------------------------------------------------  >-----BEGIN GEEK CODE BLOCK-----
 >Version: 3.1t; >GCM/CS d(-)pu s:+>:- a++ C++ U-- L-- W++ N++ K? w--- V+++$h7 >PS+ PE-- t 5? X- tv-- b+ DI+ D-- G e++ h--- r+++ y+++@t  >------END GEEK CODE BLOCK------   ------------------------------  # Date: Wed, 16 May 2001 11:10:48 GMTe- From: Terry C Shannon <shannon@world.std.com>oC Subject: Re: Compaq watch: radio ads and Inform - mostly good news. D Message-ID: <Pine.SGI.4.21.0105160705410.27679-100000@world.std.com>  J And this just in from Europe... Compaq is heavily flogging its involvementH in the Formula 1 races over here. That's the good news. Bad news is that the ads are PC-centric.d  G Also, I saw a CPQ billboard go by me at about 150 MPH as my flight fromCF Brussels landed at London Heathrow yesterday. At the end of the runwayF there's a banner saying NOW YOU CAN REALLY FLY: Inspiration Technology from Compaq.  B Good ad, but the location leaves a lot to be desired: after all, a1 passenger jet is going pretty fast when it lands.   A A good parable for Compaq marketing in general: nice ads, dubious B placement. Until Compaq realizes that placing PC-centric ads in ITD publications that carry ENTERPRISE ads from Sun, IBM, HP, et al onlyH reinforces the image of Compaq as a PC company, perceptions are unlikely
 to change.   ------------------------------    Date: 16 May 2001 07:31:00 -05009 From: Kilgallen@eisner.decus.org.nospam (Larry Kilgallen)iC Subject: Re: Compaq watch: radio ads and Inform - mostly good news.i3 Message-ID: <$5sX64pBsKYS@eisner.encompasserve.org>-  t In article <Pine.SGI.4.21.0105160705410.27679-100000@world.std.com>, Terry C Shannon <shannon@world.std.com> writes:  I > Also, I saw a CPQ billboard go by me at about 150 MPH as my flight from H > Brussels landed at London Heathrow yesterday. At the end of the runwayH > there's a banner saying NOW YOU CAN REALLY FLY: Inspiration Technology > from Compaq. > D > Good ad, but the location leaves a lot to be desired: after all, a3 > passenger jet is going pretty fast when it lands.   A They are after the market of folks waiting for takeoff clearance.  Hours of exposure.   ------------------------------  # Date: Wed, 16 May 2001 12:25:13 GMT  From: Dirk Munk <munk@home.nl>C Subject: Re: Compaq watch: radio ads and Inform - mostly good news. ' Message-ID: <3B0271A8.75626B08@home.nl>1   Terry C Shannon wrote:  L > And this just in from Europe... Compaq is heavily flogging its involvementJ > in the Formula 1 races over here. That's the good news. Bad news is that > the ads are PC-centric.a > I > Also, I saw a CPQ billboard go by me at about 150 MPH as my flight from H > Brussels landed at London Heathrow yesterday. At the end of the runwayH > there's a banner saying NOW YOU CAN REALLY FLY: Inspiration Technology > from Compaq. >eD > Good ad, but the location leaves a lot to be desired: after all, a3 > passenger jet is going pretty fast when it lands.  >mC > A good parable for Compaq marketing in general: nice ads, dubiousaD > placement. Until Compaq realizes that placing PC-centric ads in ITF > publications that carry ENTERPRISE ads from Sun, IBM, HP, et al onlyJ > reinforces the image of Compaq as a PC company, perceptions are unlikely > to change.  N Very true. Using laptops for analyzing data is ok, but would it not be nice ifG they could make an ad like "these cars / engines are designed with high.H performance alpha systems". After all, many companies can build a decentK laptop, so if Williams (The F1 team) would use Dell, or Toshiba, or Asus it8D realy would not matter so much. (Sorry for Compaq's marketing boys).   ------------------------------  % Date: Wed, 16 May 2001 09:04:26 -0500y+ From: Christopher Smith <csmith@amdocs.com>nC Subject: RE: Compaq watch: radio ads and Inform - mostly good news.wL Message-ID: <3B55D7F383B0D31197D9009027541CBF0D9D1E55@cmiexch1.cmi.itds.com>   > -----Original Message-----' > From: Dirk Munk [mailto:munk@home.nl]t  ? > Very true. Using laptops for analyzing data is ok, but would o > it not be nice ife@ > they could make an ad like "these cars / engines are designed  > with highu< > performance alpha systems". After all, many companies can  > build a decent: > laptop, so if Williams (The F1 team) would use Dell, or    *cough* Tadpole/RDI *cough*s   Regards,  4 Chris -- who has an RDI brochure hanging on the wall  ! Christopher Smith, Perl Developeru Amdocs - Champaign, IL   /usr/bin/perl -e '? print((~"\x95\xc4\xe3"^"Just Another Perl Hacker.")."\x08!\n");  's   ------------------------------  % Date: Wed, 16 May 2001 11:51:54 -0400 - From: JF Mezei <jfmezei.spamnot@videotron.ca> C Subject: Re: Compaq watch: radio ads and Inform - mostly good news.n, Message-ID: <3B02A21A.42441DBD@videotron.ca>   Terry C Shannon wrote: > L > And this just in from Europe... Compaq is heavily flogging its involvementJ > in the Formula 1 races over here. That's the good news. Bad news is that > the ads are PC-centric.   N These ads were seen in Canada/USA some weeks ago. All I can say is that it put? the word "Compaq" up without saying anything about the company.1  C However, the current crop of ads seen on CNN this week is a massiveuK improvement. It is *finally* starting to talk about serious systems and how P Compaq has the consulting/support to help companies deal with their IT problems.  L The one negative in one of those ads is the use of the word "legacy". CompaqH should know that this is a taboo word because of the way Digital used it against its own products..   ------------------------------  % Date: Wed, 16 May 2001 12:01:43 -0400f From: William_Bochnik@acml.comC Subject: Re: Compaq watch: radio ads and Inform - mostly good news.T> Message-ID: <OF8DD6046E.AA90C1B3-ON85256A4E.0057EADB@acml.com>  : not to get to OT but what do you define as legacy systems?   IBM mainframe?$ something installed over a year ago? anything not NT?  < something these NT centric kids need to realize - everything@ becomes a legacy system at some point (assuming that it's around more than a month)      h                                                                                                         h                     JF Mezei                                                                            h                     <jfmezei.spamnot@vid                To:  Info-VAX@Mvb.Saic.Com                      h                     eotron.ca>                          cc:                                             h                                                 Subject:     Re: Compaq watch: radio ads and Inform -   h                     05/16/2001 11:51 AM         mostly good news.                                       h                                                                                                         h                                                                                                                Terry C Shannon wrote: >i@ > And this just in from Europe... Compaq is heavily flogging its involvementn= > in the Formula 1 races over here. That's the good news. Bade news is that > the ads are PC-centric.a  ? These ads were seen in Canada/USA some weeks ago. All I can sayC is that it put? the word "Compaq" up without saying anything about the company.   ; However, the current crop of ads seen on CNN this week is ae massivem; improvement. It is *finally* starting to talk about serioust systems and howS= Compaq has the consulting/support to help companies deal withs their IT problems.  ; The one negative in one of those ads is the use of the wordO "legacy". Compaq@ should know that this is a taboo word because of the way Digital used ite against its own products.E          F ______________________________________________________________________  : The information contained in this transmission may contain< privileged and confidential information and is intended only< for the use of the person(s) named above. If you are not the< intended recipient,  or an employee or agent responsible for? delivering this message to the intended recipient,  any review,o@ dissemination, distribution or duplication of this communication> is strictly prohibited. If you are not the intended recipient,A please contact the sender immediately by reply e-mail and destroyF# all copies of the original message.6   ------------------------------  % Date: Wed, 16 May 2001 12:09:25 -0400o From: William_Bochnik@acml.comC Subject: Re: Compaq watch: radio ads and Inform - mostly good news.-> Message-ID: <OF2EF9599E.22730417-ON85256A4E.0058B1C0@acml.com>  @ btw I did not mean to imply that  JF is NT centric (in case this is interpreted as such).    b                                                                                                   b                     William_Bochni                                                                b                     k@acml.com                    To:  Info-VAX@Mvb.Saic.Com                      b                                                   cc:                                             b                     05/16/2001            Subject:     Re: Compaq watch: radio ads and Inform -   b                     12:01 PM              mostly good news.                                       b                                                                                                   b                                                                                                           : not to get to OT but what do you define as legacy systems?   IBM mainframe?$ something installed over a year ago? anything not NT?  < something these NT centric kids need to realize - everything@ becomes a legacy system at some point (assuming that it's around more than a month)                           JF Mezei;                     <jfmezei.spamnot@vid                To:  Info-VAX@Mvb.Saic.Com);                     eotron.ca>                          cc:e@                                                 Subject:     Re:$ Compaq watch: radio ads and Inform -A                     05/16/2001 11:51 AM         mostly good news.c       Terry C Shannon wrote: >A@ > And this just in from Europe... Compaq is heavily flogging its involvementb= > in the Formula 1 races over here. That's the good news. Bade news is that > the ads are PC-centric.   ? These ads were seen in Canada/USA some weeks ago. All I can say  is that it put? the word "Compaq" up without saying anything about the company.e  ; However, the current crop of ads seen on CNN this week is a( massivet; improvement. It is *finally* starting to talk about seriouso systems and howd= Compaq has the consulting/support to help companies deal withe their IT problems.  ; The one negative in one of those ads is the use of the word  "legacy". Compaq@ should know that this is a taboo word because of the way Digital used it  against its own products.           F ______________________________________________________________________  : The information contained in this transmission may contain< privileged and confidential information and is intended only< for the use of the person(s) named above. If you are not the< intended recipient,  or an employee or agent responsible for? delivering this message to the intended recipient,  any review,S@ dissemination, distribution or duplication of this communication> is strictly prohibited. If you are not the intended recipient,A please contact the sender immediately by reply e-mail and destroy # all copies of the original message.S          F ______________________________________________________________________  : The information contained in this transmission may contain< privileged and confidential information and is intended only< for the use of the person(s) named above. If you are not the< intended recipient,  or an employee or agent responsible for? delivering this message to the intended recipient,  any review,N@ dissemination, distribution or duplication of this communication> is strictly prohibited. If you are not the intended recipient,A please contact the sender immediately by reply e-mail and destroyh# all copies of the original message.O   ------------------------------  % Date: Wed, 16 May 2001 10:20:57 -0700-! From: Shane.F.Smith@Healthnet.com0C Subject: Re: Compaq watch: radio ads and Inform - mostly good news.nD Message-ID: <OFFF4ADE7A.6DF18123-ON88256A4E.005F2299@foundation.com>  H "Legacy" is easy to define. It's anything the salesman you're talking toF can't make much money on. He will refer to it as "legacy" to start youG thinking of it as something you need to replace with something he /can/  make some money on.a   Shaney          2 William_Bochnik@acml.com on 05/16/2001 09:01:43 AM  * Please respond to William_Bochnik@acml.com   To:   Info-VAX@Mvb.Saic.Como cc:   D Subject:  Re: Compaq watch: radio ads and Inform - mostly good news.      : not to get to OT but what do you define as legacy systems?   IBM mainframe?$ something installed over a year ago? anything not NT?  < something these NT centric kids need to realize - everything@ becomes a legacy system at some point (assuming that it's around more than a month)                             JF Mezei;                     <jfmezei.spamnot@vid                To:D Info-VAX@Mvb.Saic.Comt;                     eotron.ca>                          cc:eG                                                 Subject:     Re: Compaqi watch: radio ads and Inform -rA                     05/16/2001 11:51 AM         mostly good news.a           Terry C Shannon wrote: >a@ > And this just in from Europe... Compaq is heavily flogging its involvemente= > in the Formula 1 races over here. That's the good news. Bad  news is that > the ads are PC-centric.o  ? These ads were seen in Canada/USA some weeks ago. All I can sayi is that it put? the word "Compaq" up without saying anything about the company.   ; However, the current crop of ads seen on CNN this week is a- massive-; improvement. It is *finally* starting to talk about seriousn systems and howi= Compaq has the consulting/support to help companies deal with  their IT problems.  ; The one negative in one of those ads is the use of the word  "legacy". Compaq@ should know that this is a taboo word because of the way Digital used it- against its own products.-          F ______________________________________________________________________  : The information contained in this transmission may contain< privileged and confidential information and is intended only< for the use of the person(s) named above. If you are not the< intended recipient,  or an employee or agent responsible for? delivering this message to the intended recipient,  any review,-@ dissemination, distribution or duplication of this communication> is strictly prohibited. If you are not the intended recipient,A please contact the sender immediately by reply e-mail and destroy.# all copies of the original message.    ------------------------------    Date: 17 May 2001 01:25:16 +0800, From: Paul Repacholi <prep@prep.synonet.com>C Subject: Re: Compaq watch: radio ads and Inform - mostly good news..- Message-ID: <87u22li4ub.fsf@prep.synonet.com>h    William_Bochnik@acml.com writes:  < > not to get to OT but what do you define as legacy systems?   One that works.s   --  < Paul Repacholi                               1 Crescent Rd.,7 +61 (08) 9257-1001                           Kalamunda.o@                                              West Australia 6076. Raw, Cooked or Well-done, it's all half baked.H Spam-To: uce@ftc.gov,enforcement@sec.gov,sness@fcc.gov,hfurchtg@fcc.gov,#   mpowell@fcc.gov,gtristan@fcc.gov t   ------------------------------  # Date: Wed, 16 May 2001 07:17:59 GMTa From: adroso@home.com (ADR)> Subject: Re: Console docs URLy: Message-ID: <3b02287d.171360699@news.jamison1.pa.home.com>  " Tom Linden <tom@kednos.com> wrote:M >Is there a way to scroll or page info on the screen without hitting ^S  ^Q ?-  F If you're using TYPE to view a file, use $ TYPE /PAGE.  Some terminals5 also have a HOLD key, which alternates Ctrl-S/Ctrl-Q.    ------------------------------  % Date: Wed, 16 May 2001 18:21:37 +0100   From: Paul Sture <paul@sture.ch> Subject: Re: Console docs URLh+ Message-ID: <VA.00000396.4f49cb76@sture.ch>-  K In article <CIEJLCMNHNNDLLOOGNJIOEEECJAA.tom@kednos.com>, Tom Linden wrote:C# > From: Tom Linden <tom@kednos.com>u > Newsgroups: comp.os.vms  > Subject: Console docs URL ' > Date: Tue, 15 May 2001 07:20:43 -0700+ > I > Could someone point me to docs for the console?  which says V7.2-1 withe > PALcode V1.20-16?: > N > Is there a way to scroll or page info on the screen without hitting ^S  ^Q ? >rO If you are talking of scrolling at the >>> console prompt, then the only way I 0J can think of is hooking up the serial console port to a terminal emulator  which can do this.  J At the VMS prompt, many utilities have a /PAGE=SAVE parameter which helps.8 For example, I have the following symbol in my LOGIN.COM  $ $ MORE == "TYPE/PAGE=SAVE SYS$INPUT"   which allows commands such as:   $ PIPE TYPE X.DAT  MORE  N enabling the use of the PREV and NEXT keys (not the best example, but you get 
 the picture).m ___a
 Paul Sture Switzerlandc   ------------------------------  % Date: Wed, 16 May 2001 12:19:52 -0400t- From: The Scarlet Wombat <coconut@netway.com>m Subject: DFO on system disks< Message-ID: <3.0.6.32.20010516121952.008886e0@209.251.64.26>   Perhaps a very basic question, but can DFO 2.5 be used to defrag system disks?  I know you cannot defrag the indexf.sys file while the system device is mounted, but other than that, can you defrag a system disk while the system is booted?   Assuming you do regular defrags, if the answer is "yes," how might this impact system performance on a VAX 64xx series box?  I suspect it is negative, but how much is the issue.e   Thanks for any ideas,e  
 Dan Graham   ------------------------------  % Date: Wed, 16 May 2001 18:49:12 +0100o  From: Paul Sture <paul@sture.ch>  Subject: Re: DFO on system disks+ Message-ID: <VA.00000397.4f630b40@sture.ch>n  = In article <3.0.6.32.20010516121952.008886e0@209.251.64.26>, n > The Scarlet Wombat wrote:F/ > From: The Scarlet Wombat <coconut@netway.com>  > Newsgroups: comp.os.vmse > Subject: DFO on system disks' > Date: Wed, 16 May 2001 12:19:52 -0400a > I > Perhaps a very basic question, but can DFO 2.5 be used to defrag systemeN > disks?  I know you cannot defrag the indexf.sys file while the system deviceI > is mounted, but other than that, can you defrag a system disk while the  > system is booted?I >r  J In principle, yes. You don't mention which version of VMS though, and that can make all the difference.   > K Having said that, the file SYS$SYSTEM:SETFILENOMOVE.COM exists specificallyrI to give required system files the NOMOVE attribute (via SET FILE/NOMOVE),nN so that DFO (and 3rd party defraggers using the XQP MOVEFILE function) respect their placement.  N To run this procedure you have to boot from another disk (or CD) to operate on your target system disk.  ; From the V7.3 Alpha version of SETFILENOMOVE.COM I see thattF it was first written in 1991, and VAX is mentioned in the comments, soG it sounds like your chances are good. I'd still recommend checking yourk0 DFO documentation thoroughly first of course :-)  I > Assuming you do regular defrags, if the answer is "yes," how might this F > impact system performance on a VAX 64xx series box?  I suspect it is& > negative, but how much is the issue. > G As ever, YMMV, but I'd expect a positive impact on general performance.s  C On the downside, don't let the fact that this may be possible allowsP management persuade you that regular system disk backups are no longer necessary - yes, I've seen that happen.t ___o
 Paul Sture Switzerland)   ------------------------------    Date: 17 May 2001 01:42:24 +0800, From: Paul Repacholi <prep@prep.synonet.com>  Subject: Re: DFO on system disks- Message-ID: <87heyli41r.fsf@prep.synonet.com>i  " Paul Sture <paul@sture.ch> writes:  ? > In article <3.0.6.32.20010516121952.008886e0@209.251.64.26>,   > > The Scarlet Wombat wrote:D  D > > Perhaps a very basic question, but can DFO 2.5 be used to defragE > > system disks?  I know you cannot defrag the indexf.sys file whilepE > > the system device is mounted, but other than that, can you defragy- > > a system disk while the system is booted?e  C > In principle, yes. You don't mention which version of VMS though, ' > and that can make all the difference.p  G If a file is open, you can't move it for defgraging... Set file /nomovecE solves the detail of files the system opens early in the boot processa before the XQP gets into gear.  F You can defrage another system disk that is not in use by clearing all= the 'nomove' fiel atributes, defraging, resetting the nomove,-   ** And running writeboot!!**  @ Quicker to use backup, though the file order is almost maximally pesimal.   -- c< Paul Repacholi                               1 Crescent Rd.,7 +61 (08) 9257-1001                           Kalamunda. @                                              West Australia 6076. Raw, Cooked or Well-done, it's all half baked.H Spam-To: uce@ftc.gov,enforcement@sec.gov,sness@fcc.gov,hfurchtg@fcc.gov,#   mpowell@fcc.gov,gtristan@fcc.gov n   ------------------------------  % Date: Wed, 16 May 2001 12:05:00 +0200 : From: "Gotfryd Smolik, VMS lists" <gotfryd@stanpol.com.pl>( Subject: Re: Failed QIO while unzipping?J Message-ID: <Pine.LNX.4.21.0105161151300.23311-100000@irys.stanpol.com.pl>  * On Fri, 11 May 2001, Hunter Goatley wrote:  6 >+[...] Michael Austin <miaustin@bellsouth.net> wrote:0 >+> make sure you  have the latest unzip.. [...] >+Yes, that's the problem.    One moment please.s  The original post states:   "I was unzipping GZIP,"s                  **** = ... even if the messages are ZIP-like (have long time NOT use45 GZIP that cannot remember the GZIP info, excuse me !)C  =  Even if have themself hit the "ZIP version problem" :] then D( GZIP is *not* ZIP and has another story.:  Dan, can you clearly comment what a file format you use ?    Regards - Gotfryd   -- ?E =====================================================================hF $ ON F$ERROR("LANGUAGE","ENGLISH","IN_MESSAGE").GT.F$ERROR("NORMAL") - 		THEN EXCUSE/OBJECT=ME . $!                        GS@stanpol.zabrze.plE =====================================================================    ------------------------------  % Date: Wed, 16 May 2001 09:08:43 -0500 1 From: "David J. Dachtera" <djesys.nospam@fsi.net> ( Subject: Re: Failed QIO while unzipping?' Message-ID: <3B0289EB.90F9CFAE@fsi.net>a  " "Gotfryd Smolik, VMS lists" wrote: > , > On Fri, 11 May 2001, Hunter Goatley wrote: > 8 > >+[...] Michael Austin <miaustin@bellsouth.net> wrote:2 > >+> make sure you  have the latest unzip.. [...] > >+Yes, that's the problem. >  >  One moment please.  >  The original post states: >  > "I was unzipping GZIP,"  >                  ****   B I took that to mean that he was UNZIPping GZIP(mumble).ZIP. A GZIP; archive would likely have had a .GZ extension of some kind.    $ UNZIP GZIP*[.ZIP]    ...as opposed to...    $ GZIP -D GZIP(mumble).GZ    --   David J. Dachterat dba DJE Systemss http://www.djesys.com/  : Unofficial Affordable OpenVMS Home Page and Message Board: http://www.djesys.com/vms/soho/o  F This *IS* an OpenVMS-related newsgroup. So, a certain bias in postings is to be expected.  @ Feel free to exercise your rights of free speech and expression.  F However, attacks against individual posters, or groups of posters, are strongly discouraged.e   ------------------------------  % Date: Wed, 16 May 2001 22:03:36 +0800i From: "Kenneth" <abc@abc.com>h) Subject: Re: High MP sync CPU utilization 0 Message-ID: <9du0ul$8541@imsp212.netvigator.com>   Andreas,   Thanks for the advise. In reply to your questions:u 1. We are using CI;aG 2. We have install the Performance advisor, but we just don't know whatsB information we have to focus on to track down the MP Sync problem;, 3. Bingo! Billing. Large amout of batch jobs  J What are the feedback from VMS and Oracle engineers? So this is related to the Rdb?   What is ROW caching ?e    L "Andreas Fassl" <afassl@progis.de> ????? news:3AFC3E9F.74694F4F@progis.de...
 > Hi Kenneth,b >f- > THAT is a problem I was very familiar with.iA > This issue was always a big discussion topic between oracle rdb  engineering andn > vms engineering. > Some questions:t? > 1) What IO-Subsystem are you using? (Fibre Channel, SCSI, CI)yC > 2) Have you got something like DEC Performance Advisor installed?-G > 3) What type of application are you running? (Something like rating &r billing? > :-) )@ >lI > We escalated this problems many times to RDB engineering as well to VMS I > engineering. At least we found out, that 8 CPUs are not very useful for  RDBeL > applications, so we did (like the men which go there where no men has gone > before) enter: > $ STOP/CPU 8 > $ STOP/CPU 7 > $ STOP/CPU 6 > $ STOP/CPU 5 > G > and watched the MP sync values. Wonder! MP sync going down, total CPU  usage -  > identical.K > Conclusion: Sell the CPUs, buy more memory. Use features like ROW caching- (big > performance gain). > H > If you've got some more questions about this, feel free to contact me. > H > Back to my questions: Another performance killer is SCSI storage being usedI > with VMS releases before 7.2 not having implemented FAST PATH for SCSI.  > 	 > Regards  >t	 > Andreass >  > Kenneth wrote: > I > > My system with 2 X AS8400 running VMS 7.1 and Rdb 7.0.1.2 are running  withK > > MP sync with CPU utilization about 200 to 400% of the total 800% of CPU F > > power, does anyone know how I can trace what is the cause for this problem? >w   ------------------------------    Date: 17 May 2001 01:28:23 +0800, From: Paul Repacholi <prep@prep.synonet.com>) Subject: Re: High MP sync CPU utilizationz- Message-ID: <87pud9i4p4.fsf@prep.synonet.com>    "Kenneth" <abc@abc.com> writes:o   > What is ROW caching ?   D Go to http://www.oracle.com/rdb and slug through the javescript crapE to the update seminars. Norm (I think) did a nice presentation on it.    --  < Paul Repacholi                               1 Crescent Rd.,7 +61 (08) 9257-1001                           Kalamunda.o@                                              West Australia 6076. Raw, Cooked or Well-done, it's all half baked.H Spam-To: uce@ftc.gov,enforcement@sec.gov,sness@fcc.gov,hfurchtg@fcc.gov,#   mpowell@fcc.gov,gtristan@fcc.gov h   ------------------------------  % Date: Wed, 16 May 2001 09:44:08 +0200 / From: "J.Reinwein" <Josef.Reinwein@tecwings.at> % Subject: Infoserver 1000 does'nt bootp1 Message-ID: <989999067.481178@hagakure.utanet.at>   C This Infoserver-1000 (Model: SEADB-AS) does'nt boot any longer ....t< after power-on all 6 LED's on the frontside are flashing ...' and the console-term stays "black"  ...t  G Q:  who can give me hints for repair or knows any source about detaileda diagnose-manualo   Thanks in advance ...w Josef Reinwein   ------------------------------    Date: 16 May 2001 10:17:28 -0500- From: koehler@encompasserve.org (Bob Koehler) ) Subject: Re: Infoserver 1000 does'nt boot_3 Message-ID: <K5EMjc3cI+1m@eisner.encompasserve.org>t  c In article <989999067.481178@hagakure.utanet.at>, "J.Reinwein" <Josef.Reinwein@tecwings.at> writes:o > E > This Infoserver-1000 (Model: SEADB-AS) does'nt boot any longer ....e> > after power-on all 6 LED's on the frontside are flashing ...) > and the console-term stays "black"  ...w > I > Q:  who can give me hints for repair or knows any source about detailedl > diagnose-manualu >   G When the InfoServer is running, there is an InfoReader with diagnostic yF information.  Unfortunately it doesn't provide any way to copy out the information.   Summarizing:  E check the terminal on the console port MMJ 1 is 9600 baud, 8 bits, noi	    parityi< press the halt switch, you should get the console prompt >>>  A if you didn't get the console prompt, the hardware is busted, buyn another on eBay or something   if you did, then:t >>> B/d0000001  @ you should get the password prompt, use the default password ESS( reenter characteristics you want to save  @ the Infoserver Flash ROM may be corrupt, if you have a CD on theB  InfoServer or can access one via MOP you can update the Flash ROM  from the InfoServer CD:$ InfoServer> update system DKn: flash    G if you got the console prompt, but couldn't boot to the password prompth5 the boot device may be mis-set, it must be flash, tryr
 >>> show bootf >>> set boot flash   boot flags must be D0000000D >>> sho bflg >>> set bflg D0000000.   halt must be 2
 >>> show halte >>> set halt 2  D an unsupported device may cause problems, try stripping down to just
 the boot disky    F ----------------------------------------------------------------------? Bob Koehler                     | Computer Sciences Corporationo= NASA GSFC Flight Software       | Federal Sector, Civil GroupiE                                 | please remove ".aspm" when replying:   ------------------------------  % Date: Wed, 16 May 2001 10:39:39 +0100g/ From: Nigel Arnot <sysmgr@maxwell.ph.kcl.ac.uk>? Subject: RE: Laser Power event6 Message-ID: <009FC17C.F9435792.2@maxwell.ph.kcl.ac.uk>   > N > It could happen.  The heating element can have a big power draw.  Some yearsI > ago I had a Kyocera laser printer.  My neighbor kept complaining to the M > lectric company that his lights would dim every 45 or so seconds.  They puto1 > strip chart recorders on ran all kinds of tests K > (somewhat comical)  and after several months my neighbor and I discovered J > that the printer was the culprit.  Kyocera sent me a new printer after I. > told them my neighbor was going to sue them!  A If true at all, sounds like an electricity  wiring fault at work.eG Don't you guys states-side have fuses or circuit breakers? Any overloadsM that can depress the mains voltage for more than a fraction of a second meansoM that some wires somewhere are getting dangerously warm. (Read "fire hazard").t  G In the UK every appliance has a fuse. Laser printers do take a kilowattoE or two while warming up, and if you have too many on a single circuitmI then if they all enter warm-up at the same time you may end up taking outiC the circuit breaker. But up to the breaker limit the supply voltageiJ should hold up, and past it the breaker will trip and need a manual reset.K A single faulty printer should do the same (or in the UK, blow its fuse in y
 the plug).  D "Laser power event" causing a VAX to need manual resets? Sounds likeL something straight out of the BOFH's book to me! They'll be blaming sunspots next.    	Yours,y
 		Nigel Arnotl- 		NRA@MAXWELL.PH.KCL.AC.UK                   e  7 		"In the beginning there was nothing, which exploded."e   ------------------------------  # Date: Wed, 16 May 2001 14:18:15 GMTe From: sfm1115@bjc.org (Shawn)t Subject: Monitor Systemi1 Message-ID: <3b028b90.528781667@news.starnet.net>   D When running Monitor System on an OpenVms 7 Alpha Server I noticed a portion that Reads:n   Free List Size Modified List Size.m  F Can someone explain to me what this is used to monitor.  I am thinking0 it has to do with Opened Files, but am not sure.   Thanks in advance.   Shawn    ------------------------------    Date: 16 May 2001 16:31:07 +0200G From: Jan Vorbrueggen <jan@mailhost.neuroinformatik.ruhr-uni-bochum.de>_ Subject: Re: Monitor System H Message-ID: <y4y9rx2wno.fsf@mailhost.neuroinformatik.ruhr-uni-bochum.de>   sfm1115@bjc.org (Shawn) writes:    > Free List Size > Modified List Size.   J These are two lists of physical memory pages not currently assigned to anyI process. The Free List contains those pages that can be used immediately;lI the Modified List contains pages that need to be written to backing storetM (some piece of a disk file, depending on exact circumstances) by the modified-L page writer (a piece of software that runs in the context of SWAPPER, but isL indepdent) before it can be re-used. Quite often, a page fault will find theL page needed on one of these lists; this is then called a soft fault, becauseL it is quick to satisfy (just update some data structures in memory) compared8 to one requiring a disk read (also called a hard fault).   	Jan   ------------------------------  % Date: Wed, 16 May 2001 10:17:05 -0700e! From: Shane.F.Smith@Healthnet.com  Subject: Re: Monitor SystemcD Message-ID: <OF74943EF1.9184F996-ON88256A4E.005E95DB@foundation.com>  F It's memory management. Free list is how much memory you have ready toH allocate, modified list is how much "dirty" memory - modified pages thatD have been paged out of people's working sets but not put to disk andK cleared for reassignment. If those pages are needed back by the user before = they get saved and wiped, they can be reassigned from memory.o  J On VAXen, IIRC, "dirty" pages are cleaned as they are reassigned - they'reE only 512 bytes. On Alphas they are cleaned using unused CPU cycles asn! they're a lot larger at 8k bytes.l  J I will now don my nomex underwear, because it's been so long since they'veE let me get technical here that I'm bound to have screwed part of that  up......   Shanel          1 sfm1115@bjc.org (Shawn) on 05/16/2001 07:18:15 AMh  ) Please respond to sfm1115@bjc.org (Shawn).   To:   Info-VAX@Mvb.Saic.Como cc:    Subject:  Monitor System    D When running Monitor System on an OpenVms 7 Alpha Server I noticed a portion that Reads:-   Free List Size Modified List Size.1  F Can someone explain to me what this is used to monitor.  I am thinking0 it has to do with Opened Files, but am not sure.   Thanks in advance.   Shawn    ------------------------------  % Date: Wed, 16 May 2001 16:10:45 +0200i' From: Theo Jakobus <jakobus@iaf.fhg.de>.! Subject: Mozilla 0.9 applets test * Message-ID: <3B02A685.5F7565D2@iaf.fhg.de>  F Executing "Debug" -> "Verification" -> "Applets" crashes Mozilla and I get the message:  ) assert error: expression = n > 0, in filer8 DKA0:[WORK.NSPRPUB.JACKETS]POLL_JACKET.C;100 at line 5236 %SYSTEM-F-OPCCUS, opcode reserved to customer fault at  PC=FFFFFFFF80A2DE54, PS=0000001B/ %TRACE-F-TRACEBACK, symbolic stack dump follows0G   image    module    routine             line      rel PC           abs  PC>                                             0 FFFFFFFF80A2DE54 FFFFFFFF80A2DE54>                                             0 FFFFFFFF8099C6B8 FFFFFFFF8099C6B8>                                             0 FFFFFFFF80AAFCB8 FFFFFFFF80AAFCB8'  VMS_JACKETS  POLL_JACKET  GENERIC_POLLa>                                         21653 0000000000000964 000000000018BED4>  LIBGLIB  GMAIN  g_main_poll            19587 0000000000001688 0000000000F309D8>  LIBGLIB  GMAIN  g_get_current_time     19355 0000000000000FF4 0000000000F30344>  LIBGLIB  GMAIN  g_main_iterate         19358 0000000000000000 0000000000000000>  LIBGLIB  GMAIN  g_main_run             19482 0000000000001470 0000000000F307C0>  LIBGTK  GTKMAIN  gtk_main              20665 0000000000000A58 0000000001180508>  LIBWIDGET_GTK  NSAPPSHELL  Run         71933 0000000000001544 0000000000B675E4>  MOZILLA-BIN  NSAPPRUNNER  main1        63658 0000000000007670 0000000000037670>  MOZILLA-BIN  NSAPPRUNNER  main         63962 0000000000008358 0000000000038358>  MOZILLA-BIN  NSAPPRUNNER  __MAIN           0 0000000000000070 0000000000030070>  PTHREAD$RTL                                0 00000000000312FC 000000007BBF32FC>  PTHREAD$RTL                                0 0000000000012B48 000000007BBD4B48>                                             0 FFFFFFFF841B53F4 FFFFFFFF841B53F4 $t  C I've installed the porting software and the logical "VMS_JACKETS" =iE "IAF021$DKA0:[SYS0.SYSCOMMON.PORTING]VMS_JACKETS.EXE" is the pointer.dA I looked at POLL_JACKET.C in this directory but I'm a C rookie ;)d     Regards, -- c  ; ***********************************************************t; *                                                         *I; *  Theo Jakobus                                           *-; *  Fraunhofer-Institut fuer Angewandte Festkoerperphysik  *0; *  Tullastr. 72                                           *D; *  D-79108 Freiburg                                       *c; *  Germany                                                *.; *  Phone:   +49-(0)761-5159-325                           *r; *  FAX :    +49-(0)761-5159-200                           *c; *  e-mail:  jakobus@iaf.fhg.de                            *a; *  http://www.iaf.fhg.de                                  * ; *                                                         *m; ***********************************************************u   ------------------------------    Date: 16 May 2001 17:21:25 +0200* From: eplan@kapsch.net (Peter LANGSTOEGER)% Subject: Re: Mozilla 0.9 applets test * Message-ID: <3b029af5$1@news.kapsch.co.at>  T In article <3B02A685.5F7565D2@iaf.fhg.de>, Theo Jakobus <jakobus@iaf.fhg.de> writes:G >Executing "Debug" -> "Verification" -> "Applets" crashes Mozilla and I  >get the message:g  
 Disable JAVA.o' JAVA support is still not in MOZILLA...    --  < Peter "EPLAN" LANGSTOEGER           Tel.    +43 1 81111-2651; Network and OpenVMS system manager  Fax.    +43 1 81111-888C< <<< KAPSCH AG  Wagenseilgasse 1     E-mail  eplan@kapsch.netH A-1121 VIENNA  AUSTRIA              "I'm not a pessimist, I'm a realist"   ------------------------------  % Date: Wed, 16 May 2001 10:45:13 -0700r! From: Shane.F.Smith@Healthnet.comt Subject: Opera browserD Message-ID: <OFB3B320D9.DB80D983-ON88256A4E.00615E0F@foundation.com>  I Y'know, it's a pity only Christof and I were interested in trying to pusha: Opera into a VMS port. They're popping up everywhere else:  ;      Opera follows up Linux version with IBM appliance dealc  6      http://www.theregister.co.uk/content/2/18985.html   Shaneh   ------------------------------  % Date: Wed, 16 May 2001 15:33:42 +0800e' From: Tim Sneddon <tsneddon@olc.com.au>e Subject: Pathworks for SCO UNIXo< Message-ID: <2FCE1FC4E068D411877B00D0B7477F4D0E1A4C@onlpc26>  G Some time ago DEC released a product called Pathworks for SCO UNIX. I'm L trying to hunt down a copy. If anyone has one that I might be able to copy I/ would be much appreciative if could contact me.i   Thanks, Tim.   ------------------------------  , Date: Wed, 16 May 2001 11:27:41 +0200 (CEST): From: "Gotfryd Smolik, VMS lists" <gotfryd@stanpol.com.pl>& Subject: Re: Setting Up An FTP AccountJ Message-ID: <Pine.LNX.4.21.0105161125210.23311-100000@irys.stanpol.com.pl>  * On Wed, 16 May 2001, Still Learning wrote:  E >+Thanks to everyone for your thoughts.  I investigated nearly all of=G >+your suggestions.  I have it working now and I'm a happy guy.  I madeaE >+some changes to the new account (most notably, the /DEV) and once ItG >+shut down the FTP server and restarted it, it was fine.  The /DEV wasFG >+refering to a device logical (it still should've worked, shouldn't it2 >+have?)  $  Depends how the logical is defined.@  Was the logicals name *for sure* be /SYSTEM/EXEC and dev:[dir.]7 (with respect to the ".") or to dev: only translation ?     Regards - Gotfryd   -- TE ===================================================================== F $ ON F$ERROR("LANGUAGE","ENGLISH","IN_MESSAGE").GT.F$ERROR("NORMAL") - 		THEN EXCUSE/OBJECT=MEi. $!                        GS@stanpol.zabrze.plE =====================================================================G   ------------------------------  % Date: Wed, 16 May 2001 09:23:54 -0500 1 From: "David J. Dachtera" <djesys.nospam@fsi.net>  Subject: Re: SORT command.' Message-ID: <3B028D7A.BABD8C5C@fsi.net>t   Pat Rankin wrote:e > 2 > In article <9ds10u$bkl$2@newsg2.svr.pol.co.uk>,\B >  "Leigh G. Bowden" <LGBowden@bowdenfamily.fsnet.co.uk> writes...H > > I tried to sort to text files which is the output from two different' > > systems SYSUAF files in brief form.- > > F > > On a third machine I did SORT/KEY=(POS:22,SIZE:4,DECIMAL,UNSIGNED): > > NODE1::SYSUAF.TXT, NODE2::SYSUAF.TXT SORTED_SYSUAF.TXT > > >      Your data is entirely ASCII text.  Falsely telling SORTB > that the key is packed decimal binary data is guaranteed to give > bogus results. > @ >      You're going to need to use a sort specification file--orA > else reformat the data before sorting--if you want to treat theaA > UIC values as sensible multi-digit numbers.  In particular, thei= > shorter digit sequences will need to be padded with leadingeB > spaces in order for them to be right justified and have the same! > length as the longest sequence.  > B >      If you use ``LIST /BRIEF [*,*]'' to create your input files? > in the first place, they will already be sorted in UIC order.m@ > But offhand I can't think of a simple way to merge two of them@ > together using SORT or MERGE because their UIC ordering is notB > the same as the corresponding ASCII order.  I think you'll stillA > need a specification file to pad the short numbers with leadingl4 > spaces (or zeroes) for use in the key comparisons.  + I would expect (possibly incorrectly) that:   8 $ SORT/NODUP infile1,infile2/KEY=(POS=38,siz=12) outfile  E ...would accomplish what he wants, provided he only wants to kick outeH duplicate UICs. Trying to isolate either groups or members would require a /SPEC file, as you said.   -- s David J. Dachtera  dba DJE Systemsn http://www.djesys.com/  : Unofficial Affordable OpenVMS Home Page and Message Board: http://www.djesys.com/vms/soho/g  F This *IS* an OpenVMS-related newsgroup. So, a certain bias in postings is to be expected.  @ Feel free to exercise your rights of free speech and expression.  F However, attacks against individual posters, or groups of posters, are strongly discouraged.    ------------------------------  % Date: Wed, 16 May 2001 11:55:01 +0100i0 From: andrew harrison <andrew.nospam@uk.sun.com>8 Subject: Re: The Internet, Tru64 and other unix variants* Message-ID: <3B025C85.62DBE8BF@uk.sun.com>   Paul Repacholi wrote:  > 4 > andrew harrison <andrew.nospam@uk.sun.com> writes: >  > > Paul Repacholi wrote:a > > >M8 > > > andrew harrison <andrew.nospam@uk.sun.com> writes: > > >o8 > > > > So what happens when you add proper SMP support,8 > > > > threads, kernel pre-emption, real-time, a proper6 > > > > JFS, resource management, hot plug support etc > > >o# > > > You would be half way to VMS.v > > >  > > 0 > > Since at least two of these capabilities are. > > so new to OpenVMS that they are still warm0 > > from the sides of the mould it would be more2 > > acurate to say that you would be where OpenVMS > > has just got to. > ( > And what two would you be refering to? >   1 Actually I was wrong only one of them has made ite/ into the current 7.3 release the other is TBD. t   Hot plug is new to 7.3.o  ) 7.3 still does not have a fully featured -/ JFS, you cannot for example expand filesystems  . online, something that has been available for . some time on other OS's. It has also only got 0 the level of tunability that you have with most  JFS's in the 7.3 release.:   Regardsd Andrew Harrisono Enterprise IT Architectn   ------------------------------  # Date: Wed, 16 May 2001 12:15:25 GMTs From: Dirk Munk <munk@home.nl>8 Subject: Re: The Internet, Tru64 and other unix variants' Message-ID: <3B026F5C.EF0C78BB@home.nl>.   andrew harrison wrote:   > Paul Repacholi wrote:  > >e6 > > andrew harrison <andrew.nospam@uk.sun.com> writes: > >  > > > Paul Repacholi wrote:I > > > > : > > > > andrew harrison <andrew.nospam@uk.sun.com> writes: > > > >g: > > > > > So what happens when you add proper SMP support,: > > > > > threads, kernel pre-emption, real-time, a proper8 > > > > > JFS, resource management, hot plug support etc > > > >f% > > > > You would be half way to VMS.d > > > >s > > >.2 > > > Since at least two of these capabilities are0 > > > so new to OpenVMS that they are still warm2 > > > from the sides of the mould it would be more4 > > > acurate to say that you would be where OpenVMS > > > has just got to. > >.* > > And what two would you be refering to? > >y >t3 > Actually I was wrong only one of them has made itn0 > into the current 7.3 release the other is TBD. >i > Hot plug is new to 7.3.t >i* > 7.3 still does not have a fully featured0 > JFS, you cannot for example expand filesystems/ > online, something that has been available for / > some time on other OS's. It has also only gotd1 > the level of tunability that you have with mostE > JFS's in the 7.3 release.o  ? As a matter of intertest, what in your opinion would be "expanda" filesystems online" in VMS terms ?         >i >O	 > Regardsp > Andrew Harrison  > Enterprise IT Architectn   ------------------------------  % Date: Wed, 16 May 2001 09:01:43 -0500c+ From: Christopher Smith <csmith@amdocs.com>t8 Subject: RE: The Internet, Tru64 and other unix variantsL Message-ID: <3B55D7F383B0D31197D9009027541CBF0D9D1E54@cmiexch1.cmi.itds.com>   > -----Original Message-----' > From: Dirk Munk [mailto:munk@home.nl]u   > andrew harrison wrote:  , > > 7.3 still does not have a fully featured2 > > JFS, you cannot for example expand filesystems1 > > online, something that has been available for 1 > > some time on other OS's. It has also only gotF3 > > the level of tunability that you have with mosti > > JFS's in the 7.3 release.   A > As a matter of intertest, what in your opinion would be "expand-$ > filesystems online" in VMS terms ?  J I read him to mean that on other systems you can plug a new disk into, forK instance, a RAID set, and get to use it. (without interrupting the host)  I F don't imagine VMS has lived without this feature, so at this point I'mL assuming Andrew has bad information.  Not having RAID, I don't know for sure :)  	 Regards, p   Chrish  ! Christopher Smith, Perl Developerc Amdocs - Champaign, IL   /usr/bin/perl -e '? print((~"\x95\xc4\xe3"^"Just Another Perl Hacker.")."\x08!\n");o 's   ------------------------------  % Date: Wed, 16 May 2001 09:36:21 -0500a1 From: "David J. Dachtera" <djesys.nospam@fsi.net>h8 Subject: Re: The Internet, Tru64 and other unix variants' Message-ID: <3B029065.F8B2B1BF@fsi.net>o   Dirk Munk wrote: >  > andrew harrison wrote: >  > > Paul Repacholi wrote:d > > >t8 > > > andrew harrison <andrew.nospam@uk.sun.com> writes: > > >t > > > > Paul Repacholi wrote:n	 > > > > >l< > > > > > andrew harrison <andrew.nospam@uk.sun.com> writes:	 > > > > >a< > > > > > > So what happens when you add proper SMP support,< > > > > > > threads, kernel pre-emption, real-time, a proper: > > > > > > JFS, resource management, hot plug support etc	 > > > > >r' > > > > > You would be half way to VMS.p	 > > > > >i > > > >h4 > > > > Since at least two of these capabilities are2 > > > > so new to OpenVMS that they are still warm4 > > > > from the sides of the mould it would be more6 > > > > acurate to say that you would be where OpenVMS > > > > has just got to. > > >o, > > > And what two would you be refering to? > > >o > >e5 > > Actually I was wrong only one of them has made itA2 > > into the current 7.3 release the other is TBD. > >  > > Hot plug is new to 7.3.  > >-, > > 7.3 still does not have a fully featured2 > > JFS, you cannot for example expand filesystems1 > > online, something that has been available for71 > > some time on other OS's. It has also only gots3 > > the level of tunability that you have with most  > > JFS's in the 7.3 release.  > A > As a matter of intertest, what in your opinion would be "expandm$ > filesystems online" in VMS terms ?  E Referring to Chris Smith's reply, I suspect he might mean enlarging a-G storage(raid?)-set without having to re-INITIALIZE the volume. However, G I can't immediately conceive of how to accomplish the expansion withoutRB disrupting the integrity of the data, VMS issues not withstanding.  D ...as opposed to simply adding a member to a volume-set, which dates: back to the dawn of ODS-2, if I'm not too badly mistaken.    --   David J. Dachterar dba DJE Systemso http://www.djesys.com/  : Unofficial Affordable OpenVMS Home Page and Message Board: http://www.djesys.com/vms/soho/   F This *IS* an OpenVMS-related newsgroup. So, a certain bias in postings is to be expected.  @ Feel free to exercise your rights of free speech and expression.  F However, attacks against individual posters, or groups of posters, are strongly discouraged.w   ------------------------------   Date: 16 May 2001 17:25:30 GMT2 From: mathog@seqaxp.bio.caltech.edu (David Mathog)8 Subject: Re: The Internet, Tru64 and other unix variants, Message-ID: <9dud6a$arv@gap.cco.caltech.edu>  H In article <3B026F5C.EF0C78BB@home.nl>, Dirk Munk <munk@home.nl> writes: >  >0+ >> 7.3 still does not have a fully featuredc1 >> JFS, you cannot for example expand filesystems40 >> online, something that has been available for0 >> some time on other OS's. It has also only got2 >> the level of tunability that you have with most >> JFS's in the 7.3 release. >h@ >As a matter of intertest, what in your opinion would be "expand# >filesystems online" in VMS terms ?t >e  I I'll second that.  Seems more like more Andrew FUD.  A lot of what you donE with "file system expansion" on Unix you do on VMS with logicals.  Ife you've already got n  " $ define usrdisk disk1,disk2,disk3   one can always do:  . $ define usrdisk disk1,disk2,disk3,disk4,disk5  I which is pretty similar in function (if not detail) to what one does whenn" expanding a file system on a Unix.  C The other type of file system expansion, which is really partition  J expansion on one disk, is completely irrelevant on VMS since ODS2 and ODS5H always encompass one or more full disks.  The closest thing to that thatJ I can think of is adding a disk to a volume set, which has been around for= as long as I can remember.  From the System Manager's manual:i  G   You can add new volumes to a volume set whenever additional space is IK   needed. You can, for example, bind all disk volumes that are mounted intodF   a volume set on a daily basis. Since this set contains all user file@   directories, users do not need to specify device names in fileJ   specifications to access files on any volume in the volume set. In fact,K   the physical location of a file is of no concern to users of the system. e  K Moreover, you shadow each member of the volume set, even to disks on other B nodes in the cluster.1  K If Andrew's actually got a point here I don't see what it is.  Unless this FK new JFS cannot be bound into a volume set or referred to by logicals, which $ would be pretty astounding if true.    David Mathog mathog@caltech.edu? Manager, sequence analysis facility, biology division, Caltech     ------------------------------  % Date: Wed, 16 May 2001 16:05:27 +02009> From: "Jean-Francois Marchal" <jean-francois.marchal@x9000.fr>' Subject: unable to link madgoat watcher . Message-ID: <9du1d7$1fh$1@reader1.imaginet.fr>   Bonjour  tous !  + Trying to build watcher v3.1-1 on vms 7.2-10! I'm getting the following error :l- %LINK-F-OPENIN, error opening VERSION.OPT ...3 which effectively doesn't existe   The link command is0: link ... /sysexe v7_watcher.alpha+_opt/opt,version.opt/opt   Any known workwaround ?0   Cordialement Jean-Franois Marchal  X9000 - LYON (FR)    ------------------------------   Date: 16 MAY 2001 17:13:53 GMT+ From: Dave Greenwood <greenwoodde@ornl.gov>0+ Subject: Re: unable to link madgoat watcher 2 Message-ID: <16MAY01.17135354@feda01.fed.ornl.gov>  ? "Jean-Francois Marchal" <jean-francois.marchal@x9000.fr> wrote:0 > Bonjour  tous ! >   - > Trying to build watcher v3.1-1 on vms 7.2-18# > I'm getting the following error :P/ > %LINK-F-OPENIN, error opening VERSION.OPT ...0! > which effectively doesn't exist  >    > The link command is0< > link ... /sysexe v7_watcher.alpha+_opt/opt,version.opt/opt >    > Any known workwaround ?0  E What happens if you omit the ",version.opt/opt"?  Given the name, I'dB4 expect the missing file to contain nothing more than  +   IDENTIFICATION = "some_v7_version_number"I  I In case you don't already know, that sets the "image file identification"d value shown by analyze/image.t   Dave --------------9 Dave Greenwood                Email: Greenwoodde@ORNL.GOV*H Oak Ridge National Lab        %STD-W-DISCLAIMER, I only speak for myself   ------------------------------  % Date: Wed, 16 May 2001 13:40:49 -0400-  From: norm.raphael@jamesbury.com+ Subject: Re: unable to link madgoat watcher 4 Message-ID: <C2256A4E.00603968.00@jklh21.valmet.com>  > --0__=0jz6TLfbC7oT9fWnt95eeGUUXeJrMuRLe3Vb9GbYBrwxRLYwpzMnNr8T* Content-type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Disposition: inline5      : This is correct.  I am running V3.1 and have the following   $ type version.opt IDENT="V3.1" $m  A I believe the file is in the BIN-AXP subdirectory and needs to be.+ copied up to where the link.com is located.         . greenwoodde@ornl.gov on 05/16/2001 01:13:53 PM  & Please respond to greenwoodde@ornl.gov   To:   Info-VAX@mvb.saic.com- cc:-, Subject:  Re: unable to link madgoat watcher      > --0__=0jz6TLfbC7oT9fWnt95eeGUUXeJrMuRLe3Vb9GbYBrwxRLYwpzMnNr8T, Content-type: text/plain; charset=iso-8859-1 Content-Disposition: inlinen+ Content-transfer-encoding: quoted-printable       ? "Jean-Francois Marchal" <jean-francois.marchal@x9000.fr> wrote:o > Bonjour =E0 tous ! >o- > Trying to build watcher v3.1-1 on vms 7.2-1A# > I'm getting the following error :L/ > %LINK-F-OPENIN, error opening VERSION.OPT ... ! > which effectively doesn't exist  >  > The link command is < > link ... /sysexe v7_watcher.alpha+_opt/opt,version.opt/opt >a > Any known workwaround ?1  E What happens if you omit the ",version.opt/opt"?  Given the name, I'd-4 expect the missing file to contain nothing more than  -   IDENTIFICATION =3D "some_v7_version_number"t  H In case you don't already know, that sets the "image file identificatio= n" value shown by analyze/image.a   Dave --------------9 Dave Greenwood                Email: Greenwoodde@ORNL.GOV.H Oak Ridge National Lab        %STD-W-DISCLAIMER, I only speak for mysel= fi         =i  @ --0__=0jz6TLfbC7oT9fWnt95eeGUUXeJrMuRLe3Vb9GbYBrwxRLYwpzMnNr8T--   ------------------------------  # Date: Wed, 16 May 2001 17:51:30 GMT:B From: Simon Clubley <simon_clubley@remove_me.excite.com-Earth.UFP>J Subject: VMS Engineering and fun/unusual hardware, was: Re: Multimedia Doc6 Message-ID: <C6zM6.4299$6j3.375798@www.newsranger.com>  . On Mon, 14 May 2001 17:44:09 -0400, in article< <wrYL6.263$fi2.6540@news.cpqcorp.net>, Paul A. Jacobi wrote: >mE >If you add a PCI sound card to a Wildfire, you have the world's most-L >expensive MP3 player!  Yes, I tied it and it works.  It was just a bit hard >to hear over the fan noise. >a >Paul A. Jacobij >Compaq Computer Corporation" >OpenVMS Systems Group, ZKO3-4/U14 >1   :-)2  D When I see comments like these it makes me wonder just what else VMS= Engineering gets up to that we never get to hear about... :-)e  J On a related matter, does anyone want to comment on the most unusual pieceF of hardware (either on the bus or via an external interface) that they< have ever seen connected to and controlled by a VMS system ?   Simon.   -- E; Simon Clubley, simon_clubley@remove_me.excite.com-Earth.UFPrJ 'The statement that "it can never happen" is not an acceptable programmingH approach. You must assume it can happen and be in control when it does.'=           -- Ada 95 Quality and Style Guidelines, US DoD AJPOd   ------------------------------  % Date: Wed, 16 May 2001 22:06:13 +0800= From: "Kenneth" <abc@abc.com>E Subject: Re: What is RWCLUSR0 Message-ID: <9du13k$t973@imsp212.netvigator.com>  J But I have not remove any member from the cluster when the process is fall in this state?  5 "Syltrem" <syltrem@videotron.ca.spammenot> gle2 news:prWK6.5207$IG6.383946@wagner.videotron.net...  > Cluster state transition wait. >uL > When you remove a member in the cluster, another one has to take over someL > of the work done by the gonner. Same thing when you add a member, there is > need for a readjustment. >l< > Your processes will hang in this state while this happens. >  > -- >t	 > Syltremo= > http://pages.infinit.net/syltrem (OpenVMS related web site) @ > To reply to myself directly, remove .spammenot from my address > 7 > "Kenneth" <abc@abc.com> a crit dans le message news: ' > 9dh8l6$9s93@imsp212.netvigator.com...xK > > Does anyone know what RWCLUS state for a process means? How can I tracer > what4 > > is the cause for the process fall in this state? > >o > >a >r >p   ------------------------------  % Date: Wed, 16 May 2001 15:39:09 +0100t- From: Tim Llewellyn <tim.llewellyn@bbc.co.uk>g Subject: Re: What is RWCLUSh) Message-ID: <3B02910D.896841A1@bbc.co.uk>b   Kenneth wrote:  L > But I have not remove any member from the cluster when the process is fall > in this state?  < so, network glitch, not long enough to exceed RECNXINTERVAL?   I am just guessing  --e6 Tim Llewellyn, OpenVMS Infrastructure, Remarcs Project0 MedAS at the BBC, Whiteladies Road, Bristol, UK.A Email tim.llewellyn@bbc.co.uk. Home tim.llewellyn@cableinet.co.uko  A I speak for myself only and my views in no way represent those of  MedAS or the BBC.d   ------------------------------  # Date: Wed, 16 May 2001 15:17:56 GMTr1 From: "Mark D. Jilson" <jilly@clarityconnect.com>  Subject: Re: What is RWCLUS 2 Message-ID: <3B029A1A.1B108D9C@clarityconnect.com>  H RWCLU is also used when a process has to stall on getting a lock request> while a lock tree is moving from one node to another.  See theC documentation ins SYSGEN and DSNlink for the PE1 sysgen parameter. D7 These RWCLU states can last many seconds in some cases.f   Tim Llewellyn wrote: >  > Kenneth wrote: > N > > But I have not remove any member from the cluster when the process is fall > > in this state? > > > so, network glitch, not long enough to exceed RECNXINTERVAL? >  > I am just guessing >  -- 8 > Tim Llewellyn, OpenVMS Infrastructure, Remarcs Project2 > MedAS at the BBC, Whiteladies Road, Bristol, UK.C > Email tim.llewellyn@bbc.co.uk. Home tim.llewellyn@cableinet.co.uk  > C > I speak for myself only and my views in no way represent those ofu > MedAS or the BBC.i   -- eD Jilly	- Working from Home in the Chemung River Valley - Lockwood, NY0 	- jilly@clarityconnect.com			- Brett Bodine fan. 	- Mark.Jilson@Compaq.com			- since 1975 or so, 	- http://www.jilly.baka.com               -   ------------------------------   End of INFO-VAX 2001.270 ************************