1 INFO-VAX	Mon, 21 May 2001	Volume 2001 : Issue 280       Contents: "Talk Baq" to Compaq 7.3 back compatibility kits $ Altavista search engine for OpenVMS?( Re: Altavista search engine for OpenVMS? Re: Backup to CD?  Re: Backup to CD? & Re: Can't reserve a 1GB memory region? Re: comp.os.vms archives ? RE: Compaq Digital Tee Shirt. $ Re: DEC-Keyboards to not-DEC systems Re: DEC-style USB keyboard?  Re: DEC-style USB keyboard? ( Re: DECC what to include for RTL calls ? Re: DFO on system disks ; Re: error: DECW$DEVICE-I_NODEVICE, no graphics device found + ESC characters being eaten by parallel port / Re: ESC characters being eaten by parallel port / Re: ESC characters being eaten by parallel port / Re: ESC characters being eaten by parallel port / RE: ESC characters being eaten by parallel port  Re: EV abbreviation  Re: Free emulator to VMS...  Re: Free emulator to VMS...  Re: From seconds to delta-time Re: From seconds to delta-time Re: ftp program in OpenVMS
 ftp scripting  Re: ftp scripting  Re: ftp scripting  Re: ftp scripting 2 Re: mounting 2 disk with the same label in cluster Re: Mozilla 0.9  Re: Mozilla 0.9  Re: Mozilla 0.9  Re: Mozilla 0.9  Re: OT: UPS monitoring software  Re: OT: UPS monitoring software  Re: OT: UPS monitoring software  Re: OT: UPS monitoring software 2 Re: Page- and swapfile cleanup (specialy shutdown)! Re: Pascal program not running... ! Re: Pascal program not running...  Re: PGP revisited  Re: PGP revisited " Re: POSIX threads and word tearing" Re: POSIX threads and word tearing Re: Problems using CSWING  Re: Recognising a LAT Service 1 Re: Spambot Fodder - Dont Bother To Read - Thanks 8 tcpip services / ucx latest version? - passive mode ftp?< Re: tcpip services / ucx latest version? - passive mode ftp? Re: Unexpected NCP behavior  Re: VAX Acronym  Re: VAX Acronym  Re: vfork/exec question  Re: vfork/exec question  Re: vfork/exec question / VMS 7.3 kit but where is the new Netscape 6.0 ? 3 Re: VMS 7.3 kit but where is the new Netscape 6.0 ? % VMS BASIC and IP Performance Question ) Re: VMS BASIC and IP Performance Question ) Re: VMS BASIC and IP Performance Question  Re: VMS doc site master index E Re: VMS Engineering and fun/unusual hardware, was: Re: Multimedia Doc $ Re: vms time -> unix time conversion& Re: VXT2000 hardware/firmware question  Re: What is "legacy free system"" Re: [Q] DCL minute of the week-end2 [upd]: ESC characters being eaten by parallel port  F ----------------------------------------------------------------------  # Date: Mon, 21 May 2001 17:12:26 GMT 4 From: "Terry C. Shannon" <terryshannon@mediaone.net> Subject: "Talk Baq" to Compaq = Message-ID: <_%bO6.10837$5X4.2744098@typhoon.ne.mediaone.net>   B Do you want Compaq to offer affordable VMS workstations, marketingJ initiatives that focus on enterprise products (instead of PCs), more Alpha or VMS Diamond Forums, etc?   > Best way to let 'em know is to use the online advocacy tool at www.compaqworkinggroup.org  J You'll need to register and fill out a profile to participate, but you canL submit issues (and vote on previously submitted issues) anonymously. You canE also view Compaq's response to the last round of issue submission and  voting.   J This mechanism is still far from perfect, but it does offer a conduit intoI Compaq and all input is reviewed by appropriate folks within the company.    ------------------------------  % Date: Mon, 21 May 2001 16:27:25 +0100 2 From: Chris Sharman <Chris.Sharman@CCAgroup.co.uk>$ Subject: 7.3 back compatibility kits- Message-ID: <3B0941ED.45D6E55@CCAgroup.co.uk>   B A list appears in section 5.9.5 of the release notes manual in the hardcopy doc set.    For 7.1 & 7.1-2 it suggests:C  DEC-AXPVMS-VMS712_PORTS-V0100--4.PCSI (haven't got, can't find ??) @  ALPDRIV11_071 or alternatives (I've got *12_071, so that's OK)..  ALPMONT02_071 (found, downloaded to install).)  ALPMOUN07_071 or alternatives (got, OK). '  ALPSHAD07_071 (don't use, don't care). C  DEC-AXPVMS-VMS712_SYS-V0100--4.PCSI (found & downloaded *V0300--4)   @ The two PCSI kits are specified as 7.1-2. Does this mean there's= something else for 7.1, or what ? And where's the PORTS kit ?   " I'm presently on V7.1, by the way.   Thanks,  Chris    ------------------------------   Date: 21 May 2001 10:52:41 GMT From: System@Manager.com- Subject: Altavista search engine for OpenVMS? * Message-ID: <9eas1p$adq$1@news.netmar.com>  9 Is there a product similar to Altavista/PC to build a VMS > documents database that could be searched by keywords, please?
 Thank you.   SM    O  -----  Posted via NewsOne.Net: Free (anonymous) Usenet News via the Web  ----- M   http://newsone.net/ -- Free reading and anonymous posting to 60,000+ groups I    NewsOne.Net prohibits users from posting spam.  If this or other posts L made through NewsOne.Net violate posting guidelines, email abuse@newsone.net   ------------------------------   Date: 21 May 2001 12:00:14 GMT3 From: gartmann@immunbio.mpg.de (Christoph Gartmann) 1 Subject: Re: Altavista search engine for OpenVMS? 0 Message-ID: <9eb00e$8s6$1@n.ruf.uni-freiburg.de>  E In article <9eas1p$adq$1@news.netmar.com>, System@Manager.com writes: : >Is there a product similar to Altavista/PC to build a VMS? >documents database that could be searched by keywords, please?   M Christoph Brass told me on Friday that he uses a software called Excalibur to 
 do just that.    Regards,    Christoph Gartmann   H -- --------------------------------------------------------------------+H | Max-Planck-Institut fuer      Phone   : +49-761-5108-464   Fax: -452 |H | Immunbiologie                                                        |H | Postfach 1169                 Internet: gartmann@immunbio.mpg.de     |H | D-79011  Freiburg, FRG                                               |H +--------- http://www.immunbio.mpg.de/home/english/menue.html ---------+   ------------------------------  % Date: Mon, 21 May 2001 13:17:25 +0100 - From: Tim Llewellyn <tim.llewellyn@bbc.co.uk>  Subject: Re: Backup to CD?( Message-ID: <3B090755.506C655@bbc.co.uk>  " Shane.F.Smith@Healthnet.com wrote:  J > Don't know how to get it to do multi-volume, but the given example wouldM > work for 700mb savesets. I'd say that's a partial solution at least. Now if G > someone could do some kind of driver that pretended the CD was a tape M > drive, now that would be interesting. Especially since my AS200 at home has 4 > no tape, but I do have an external SCSI CD burner.  M Yes, I think quite a few people are in this position. So, the multiple volume I handling stuff, is that in the driver or the magtape ACP? Maybe all thats  needed is a CD burnign ACP?   regards      >  >  > Shane  > C > Tim Llewellyn <tim.llewellyn@bbc.co.uk> on 05/18/2001 07:16:22 AM  > ; > Please respond to Tim Llewellyn <tim.llewellyn@bbc.co.uk>  >  > To:   Info-VAX@Mvb.Saic.Com  > cc:  >  > Subject:  Re: Backup to CD?  >  > Adam Maulis wrote: > A > > In article <01K3O69KQGMS8ZLAQR@dairyworld.com>, Ingemar Olson ! > <IOLSON@dairyworld.com> writes: % > > > I've been wondering about this. C > > > Is it possible to do a VMS backup to CD(-RW) instead of tape?  > >  > > Yes  > >  > M > Possibly so, but the solution you provide does not use VMS Backup, with its  > mulit-volumeE > handling capabilites, CRC checking etc, so you have not proved your  > assertion. >  > >  > > >  > > > Is it supported? > >  > > No, it not supported.  > >  > > > Is anyone doing it?  > > K > > 1, create a 600 Mb virtual disk (for example vdd from freeware archive) 5 > >    initialize and mount it, put an archive to it.  > > 2, burn this file to CD. > > ! > > more info: OpenVMS FAQ: FILE7  >  > --8 > Tim Llewellyn, OpenVMS Infrastructure, Remarcs Project2 > MedAS at the BBC, Whiteladies Road, Bristol, UK.C > Email tim.llewellyn@bbc.co.uk. Home tim.llewellyn@cableinet.co.uk  > C > I speak for myself only and my views in no way represent those of  > MedAS or the BBC.    --6 Tim Llewellyn, OpenVMS Infrastructure, Remarcs Project0 MedAS at the BBC, Whiteladies Road, Bristol, UK.A Email tim.llewellyn@bbc.co.uk. Home tim.llewellyn@cableinet.co.uk   A I speak for myself only and my views in no way represent those of  MedAS or the BBC.    ------------------------------    Date: 21 May 2001 14:57:15 +0200G From: Jan Vorbrueggen <jan@mailhost.neuroinformatik.ruhr-uni-bochum.de>  Subject: Re: Backup to CD?H Message-ID: <y4itiulv10.fsf@mailhost.neuroinformatik.ruhr-uni-bochum.de>  / Tim Llewellyn <tim.llewellyn@bbc.co.uk> writes:   O > Yes, I think quite a few people are in this position. So, the multiple volume < > handling stuff, is that in the driver or the magtape ACP?   F I think it highly likely that the multi-volume tape capability is doneE entirely by BACKUP itself (although there were a patch or two to tape E drivers because the didn't give adequate warning of EOT). And BACKUP  G likely keys off the device type, so you would have to modify the CD-ROM F driver to simulate a tape (BOT, EOF, EOT and all) and leave some space, at the end, i.e., give an EOT warning early.   	Jan   ------------------------------  # Date: Mon, 21 May 2001 14:32:09 GMT 1 From: "Mark D. Jilson" <jilly@clarityconnect.com> / Subject: Re: Can't reserve a 1GB memory region? 2 Message-ID: <3B092827.2B207994@clarityconnect.com>  F Have you tried it w/ /PAGE/NOZERO/NOALLOC ?  Those items are only perfD enhancers for accessing the section.  Could you send me the physical@ memory section of CLUE CONFIG and the output of CLUE MEM/LAYOUT.   Malcolm Dunnett wrote: > : >  I'm having a problem with the reserved memory registry. > : >  The system is a DS20 running VMS 7.2-1 with pretty much3 > all the patches installed. It has 2GB of memory - " > 1GB in bank 0 and 1GB in bank 1. > 7 >  I've specified a 1GB ( 1024MB ) reserved memory area 0 > in the registry ( for an Oracle SGA ) with the. > /ALLOCATE/ZERO/PAGE options. When I boot the4 > system I get an error early in the boot sequent of > , > ALLOCFAIL - Failed to allocate PFN entries > ! >  ( or something close to that).  > ; >   I can successfully create the reserved area if I reduce 6 > the size to 1023MB ( which uses 1024MB when the page > tables are added in ). > 9 >   There's clearly lots of memory left in the system, is : > this an alignment issue? Does a 1GB region have to align8 > on a GB boundary? Is something using memory at the top# > of bank 0 and fragmenting memory?  > O > ============================================================================= D > Malcolm Dunnett      Malaspina University-College   Email: dunnettG >                                                      Host: mala.bc.ca J > Information Systems  Nanaimo, B.C. CANADA V9R 5S5     Tel: (250)755-8738   --  D Jilly	- Working from Home in the Chemung River Valley - Lockwood, NY0 	- jilly@clarityconnect.com			- Brett Bodine fan. 	- Mark.Jilson@Compaq.com			- since 1975 or so, 	- http://www.jilly.baka.com               -   ------------------------------  # Date: Mon, 21 May 2001 10:01:05 GMT 1 From: CSABA  HARANGOZO   <csabah@zipworld.com.au> # Subject: Re: comp.os.vms archives ? 9 Message-ID: <BH5O6.1904$CN.359995@nostril.pacific.net.au>   = Jean-Francois Marchal <jean-francois.marchal@x9000.fr> wrote: ) > I'm looking for archives of comp.os.vms > > Used to use deja, but I don't like the new google rewamping.; > Does anybody know any search tool that could give a whole  > thread in one single search ?   1 	This might no longer work, but have a look here:  	ftp://crvax.sri.com/info-vax   : 	Also, I think the OpenVMS FAQ mention a place ( or two ). 	http://openvms.compaq.com  B 	And, if you have an account with the old Decuserve, you might useD 	Notes, where you can find this newsgroup ( as Info-vax ) going back- 	for many years...  www.encompasserve.org (?)    	Hope this helps...  						Cheers,    Csaba  I    ---------------------------------------------------------------------- E    * Csaba I. Harangozo     |    'To err is human', said the hedgehog E    * csabah@zipworld.com.au |           as he dismounted a wirebrush. I    ---------------------------------------------------------------------- ;    EARTH::AUSTRALIA:[SYDNEY]HARANGOZO.CSABA;1, delete? [N]:    ------------------------------  % Date: Mon, 21 May 2001 09:12:44 -0500 + From: Christopher Smith <csmith@amdocs.com> & Subject: RE: Compaq Digital Tee Shirt.L Message-ID: <3B55D7F383B0D31197D9009027541CBF0D9D1E7E@cmiexch1.cmi.itds.com>   > -----Original Message-----< > From: rxp2158@ix.netcom.com [mailto:rxp2158@ix.netcom.com]  * >     Can anyone supply a lead as to where- > I might procure a Compaq Digital tee shirt. , > I have tried eBay + the AltaVista WEB site > without much luck.  J Well, you might talk to either Sue Stonetski, or (I think) Alan Boyles (HiI guys!  I hope I spelled those right. :), both of whom post on comp.os.vms  pretty regularly.    Regards,   Chris   ! Christopher Smith, Perl Developer  Amdocs - Champaign, IL   /usr/bin/perl -e '? print((~"\x95\xc4\xe3"^"Just Another Perl Hacker.")."\x08!\n");  '    ------------------------------  % Date: Mon, 21 May 2001 10:45:51 -0700 ! From: Shane.F.Smith@Healthnet.com - Subject: Re: DEC-Keyboards to not-DEC systems D Message-ID: <OF85ABA6FD.7F34AE9C-ON88256A53.00617143@foundation.com>  J Ditto the LK450-AA, and apparently the current LK461. If you dig around onI the net there's apparently some old unsupported drivers to make the other E keys work on WNT, but I've never found them myself. If you do, please  squirt me a copy. Ta.    Shane           8 Wolfgang Rupp <rupp@chello.at> on 05/19/2001 01:17:51 PM  0 Please respond to Wolfgang Rupp <rupp@chello.at>   To:   Info-VAX@Mvb.Saic.Com  cc:   . Subject:  Re: DEC-Keyboards to not-DEC systems    * Christof Brass <brass@infopuls.com> wrote:? > 2.I loved most the old keyboards with a function key block on > > the left side and programs where I haven't to use the mouse.? I had one of those pre-MFII keyboards for a long time. Finally, > a coke in the key springs (yes, one real spring per key) glued the dust to so much goo.  9 > Since these keyboards aren't available anymore and it's 8 > impossible to attache them to Alphas I got used to theB > "standard" DEC keyboard. What bothers me is that I can't plug it > into a SUN or Peesee? ; I don't know about Windows, but an LK411 works just fine on ; a Linux PC. What I could _not_ yet find is a mapping to use 1 the extra keys. LK411 speak normal PS/2 protocol.   
 Wolfgang Rupp    ------------------------------  % Date: Mon, 21 May 2001 10:39:30 +0100 % From: Alan Greig <a.greig@virgin.net> $ Subject: Re: DEC-style USB keyboard?8 Message-ID: <27ohgtkk20tne4bfdfitjfutivtmrrkk33@4ax.com>  2 On Sun, 20 May 2001 13:33:11 -0400, Forrest Kenney' <Forrest.Kenney@compaq.com.doom> wrote:   I >    At the present time the folks doing the OpenVMS USB work do not know $ >of any LK style keyboards that haveC >a USB connector.  Will there ever be one I cannot say, my personal 0 >belief is Compaq is highly unlikely to fund andG >build LK style keyboards with a USB connector.  But I don't make these + >sorts of decisions.  We have made it known C >that the OpenVMS customer base will not be happy with a PC layout.   D Oh dear.... It is bad enough that the build quality of the VMS styleC keyboards has deteriorated over the years but losing it completely?   E If you put an old LK411 next to a brand new LK461 the keyboard layout E is identical but one feels strong and sturdy and the other feels like  a cheap PC keyboard.  E It seems strange that Compaq can't use the mouldings for the LK461 at D least on a new USB keyboard with the electronics from a PC based USBE keyboard. Surely this will cause problems for Tru-64 users as well if % they are used to a VT style keyboard?      >Forrest Kenney  >OpenVMS Group >Compaq  >  >  >Tim Shoppa wrote: > = >> I know about the LK450 and the LK411, which have DEC-style C >> key layouts and PS/2 style connectors.  Is there a similar beast  >> that has a USB connector? >> >> Tim.    -- Alan   ------------------------------    Date: 21 May 2001 20:55:50 +0800, From: Paul Repacholi <prep@prep.synonet.com>$ Subject: Re: DEC-style USB keyboard?- Message-ID: <8766eu2755.fsf@prep.synonet.com>   7 Forrest Kenney <Forrest.Kenney@compaq.com.doom> writes:u  E >     At the present time the folks doing the OpenVMS USB work do notaA > know of any LK style keyboards that have a USB connector.  Will A > there ever be one I cannot say, my personal belief is Compaq is A > highly unlikely to fund and build LK style keyboards with a USB F > connector.  But I don't make these sorts of decisions.  We have madeE > it known that the OpenVMS customer base will not be happy with a PC 	 > layout.f  F Well, it is that, or fund the reworking of LOTS of software that needs) a full KB. Plus the work with X etc, etc.s  / I would put it a LOT stronger than 'not happy'.b   -- t< Paul Repacholi                               1 Crescent Rd.,7 +61 (08) 9257-1001                           Kalamunda. @                                              West Australia 6076. Raw, Cooked or Well-done, it's all half baked.H Spam-To: uce@ftc.gov,enforcement@sec.gov,sness@fcc.gov,hfurchtg@fcc.gov,#   mpowell@fcc.gov,gtristan@fcc.gov     ------------------------------    Date: 21 May 2001 10:54:33 +0200G From: Jan Vorbrueggen <jan@mailhost.neuroinformatik.ruhr-uni-bochum.de> 1 Subject: Re: DECC what to include for RTL calls ?.H Message-ID: <y4zoc7hyk6.fsf@mailhost.neuroinformatik.ruhr-uni-bochum.de>  / JF Mezei <jfmezei.spamnot@videotron.ca> writes:i  N > HELP RTL LIB LIB$CVT_TO_INTERNAL_TIME suggests the use of various constants M > to define what function is needed. But no mention of which module needs to   > be included.  G I would consider this a documentation oversight. Such include files are G usually named the same (except for the extension) for all languages, sor& they should be mentioned here as well.   	Jan   ------------------------------  % Date: Mon, 21 May 2001 13:48:26 +0200 ' From: Theo Jakobus <jakobus@iaf.fhg.de>t  Subject: Re: DFO on system disks* Message-ID: <3B091CAA.159D3A9C@iaf.fhg.de>   Andrea Wolf wrote: > B > "The Scarlet Wombat" <coconut@netway.com> schrieb im Newsbeitrag8 > news:3.0.6.32.20010516121952.008886e0@209.251.64.26...K > > Perhaps a very basic question, but can DFO 2.5 be used to defrag systemeN > disks?  I know you cannot defrag the indexf.sys file while the system deviceI > is mounted, but other than that, can you defrag a system disk while theo > system is booted?n > >mK > > Assuming you do regular defrags, if the answer is "yes," how might thiseF > impact system performance on a VAX 64xx series box?  I suspect it is& > negative, but how much is the issue. > >- > > Thanks for any ideas,- > >- > > Dan Graham > L > You **can** defrag the system disk while the system is up and running. But: > before you start any defrag-Jobs shou should execute the= > @sys$system:setfilenomove command as described in the docs.n > J > During the defragmentation the job slows down the performance because it
 > makes Io's.pL > But while creating the defragmentation script you can give him a priority.M > Give him a priority less than 4 and other process which are accessing fileso' > on the system disk will be preferred.t >  > hope this helpst > Peter Wolf  . Start with $ DEFRAG SHOW/VOLUME SYS$SYSDEVICE:  : If your fragmentation index is below 40 just do nothing ;)     Regards, -- s  ; ***********************************************************m; *                                                         *p; *  Theo Jakobus                                           *-; *  Fraunhofer-Institut fuer Angewandte Festkoerperphysik  *2; *  Tullastr. 72                                           * ; *  D-79108 Freiburg                                       *5; *  Germany                                                *t; *  Phone:   +49-(0)761-5159-325                           * ; *  FAX :    +49-(0)761-5159-200                           *(; *  e-mail:  jakobus@iaf.fhg.de                            *(; *  http://www.iaf.fhg.de                                  *l; *                                                         * ; ***********************************************************2   ------------------------------  % Date: Mon, 21 May 2001 12:33:02 -0400 5 From: "Fred Kleinsorge" <kleinsorge@star.zko.dec.com>lD Subject: Re: error: DECW$DEVICE-I_NODEVICE, no graphics device found2 Message-ID: <yrbO6.560$fi2.13999@news.cpqcorp.net>  H Need to know what the graphics controller is.  You should be able to getD that from the console, or you may need to look at the device itself.      ; martin wrote in message <3B0890E4.685926CF@netscape.com>...tD >I'm not a VMS admin but have to re-build a Alpha workstation as the> >system disk on it has crashed and it has never(!) been backed >up......)-; >mF >I've installed VMS 6.2 ok, but now after installing dec windows motif@ >1.2-3 and then starting it is failing with the following error: >s1 >DECW$DEVICE-I_NODEVICE, no graphics device found  >e& >Any suggestions would be appreciated. >i >thanksl >u >martine >t   ------------------------------  % Date: Mon, 21 May 2001 22:19:42 +0930 % From: Jeremy Begg <jeremy@vsm.com.au>t4 Subject: ESC characters being eaten by parallel port* Message-ID: <3B090EE6.A77DA5F0@vsm.com.au>   Hi,d  C I've set up a Genicom 5050 line printer on the parallel port of thetK AlphaServer DS20E here.  The machine is running OpenVMS V7.2-1.  In generaldE the printer works fine, but we've found that ESCape sequences are not D working: the ESC character is being eaten by something.  Rather thanH changing font or CPI as requested, the ESCape sequence is printed on the) page (without the leading ESC character).-  I The printer has a "hex dump" mode so that you can see what it's receiving K from the host, and it would appear that no ESC character is being sent downo
 the cable.  ' The printer queue is set up as follows:.   $ show queue/full printer_1r0 Printer queue PRINTER_1, idle, on SLICKA::LRA0:,# mounted form NORMAL (stock=DEFAULT)m#   <Genicom Line Printer downstairs>-0   /AUTOSTART_ON=(SLICKA::LRA0:) /BASE_PRIORITY=4B   /DEFAULT=(FORM=NORMAL (stock=DEFAULT)) Lowercase /OWNER=[SYSTEM]   /PROCESSOR=PRTSMB:4   /PROTECTION=(S:M,O:D,G:R,W:RSM) /SCHEDULE=(NOSIZE)  : Incidentally, the SHOW PRINTER command seems to be broken: $ show printer lra0v' %CLI-F-SYNTAX, error parsing 'IDSTRING'k: -CLI-E-ENTNF, specified entity not found in command tables   $ show device/full lra0l  D Printer LRA0:, device type LP11, is online, record-oriented device,      carriage control.i  H     Error count                    0    Operations completed        2262H     Owner process                 ""    Owner UIC               [SYSTEM]H     Owner process ID        00000000    Dev Prot       S:RWPL,O:RWPL,G,WH     Reference count                0    Default buffer size          255H     Page width                   255    Page Length                   661     No Carriage_return  Formfeed        Lowercasel3     No Passall          No Wrap         No PrintallV3     No Fallback         No Tab          No Truncatet9     No Sixels           No Bitmapped            No Polled6     Unidirectional  F I've tried putting the ESCape sequence in the file and also in a setupI module, but neither works.  The printer is running in ANSI emulation modeRI and the ESCape sequences in use are the ones documented in the manual fort this emulation mode.  G Does anyone know of any quirks with PRTSMB that cause it to discard ESChA characters when sending to the in-built parallel port on a DS20E?   0 Replies to me (jeremy @ vsm.com.au) if possible.   Thanks,    	Jeremy Begg 	VSM Software Services Pty Ltd.e   ------------------------------  % Date: Mon, 21 May 2001 16:29:29 +0200i2 From: "Thomas H. Pauli" <thomaspauli@arcormail.de>8 Subject: Re: ESC characters being eaten by parallel port+ Message-ID: <3B092649.3070609@arcormail.de>I  
 Hi Jeremy,  = from experience with LAT-Printers I'm pretty sure that you'llU2 need /PASSALL for proper (non-) escpae processing!   Thomas   Jeremy Begg wrote:   > Hi,y > E > I've set up a Genicom 5050 line printer on the parallel port of the M > AlphaServer DS20E here.  The machine is running OpenVMS V7.2-1.  In general G > the printer works fine, but we've found that ESCape sequences are notlF > working: the ESC character is being eaten by something.  Rather thanJ > changing font or CPI as requested, the ESCape sequence is printed on the+ > page (without the leading ESC character).a > K > The printer has a "hex dump" mode so that you can see what it's receivingcM > from the host, and it would appear that no ESC character is being sent downm > the cable. > ) > The printer queue is set up as follows:  >  > $ show queue/full printer_1 2 > Printer queue PRINTER_1, idle, on SLICKA::LRA0:,% > mounted form NORMAL (stock=DEFAULT)m% >   <Genicom Line Printer downstairs>y2 >   /AUTOSTART_ON=(SLICKA::LRA0:) /BASE_PRIORITY=4D >   /DEFAULT=(FORM=NORMAL (stock=DEFAULT)) Lowercase /OWNER=[SYSTEM] >   /PROCESSOR=PRTSMBt6 >   /PROTECTION=(S:M,O:D,G:R,W:RSM) /SCHEDULE=(NOSIZE) > < > Incidentally, the SHOW PRINTER command seems to be broken: > $ show printer lra0 ) > %CLI-F-SYNTAX, error parsing 'IDSTRING'e< > -CLI-E-ENTNF, specified entity not found in command tables >  > $ show device/full lra0a > F > Printer LRA0:, device type LP11, is online, record-oriented device,  >     carriage control.C > J >     Error count                    0    Operations completed        2262J >     Owner process                 ""    Owner UIC               [SYSTEM]J >     Owner process ID        00000000    Dev Prot       S:RWPL,O:RWPL,G,WJ >     Reference count                0    Default buffer size          255J >     Page width                   255    Page Length                   663 >     No Carriage_return  Formfeed        Lowercaseh5 >     No Passall          No Wrap         No Printallf5 >     No Fallback         No Tab          No TruncateI; >     No Sixels           No Bitmapped            No Pollede >     Unidirectional > H > I've tried putting the ESCape sequence in the file and also in a setupK > module, but neither works.  The printer is running in ANSI emulation modeaK > and the ESCape sequences in use are the ones documented in the manual forf > this emulation mode. > I > Does anyone know of any quirks with PRTSMB that cause it to discard ESCaC > characters when sending to the in-built parallel port on a DS20E?t > 2 > Replies to me (jeremy @ vsm.com.au) if possible. > 	 > Thanks,i >  > 	Jeremy Begg! > 	VSM Software Services Pty Ltd.e     -- f9 Thomas H. Pauli, Hammersteinstr.19, 14199 Berlin, Germany=   ------------------------------    Date: 21 May 2001 10:37:07 -0500 From: gleason@encompasserve.org-8 Subject: Re: ESC characters being eaten by parallel port3 Message-ID: <mT$FkgOExhto@eisner.encompasserve.org>o  R In article <3B090EE6.A77DA5F0@vsm.com.au>, Jeremy Begg <jeremy@vsm.com.au> writes: > Hi,H > E > I've set up a Genicom 5050 line printer on the parallel port of the	M > AlphaServer DS20E here.  The machine is running OpenVMS V7.2-1.  In general/G > the printer works fine, but we've found that ESCape sequences are notaF > working: the ESC character is being eaten by something.  Rather thanJ > changing font or CPI as requested, the ESCape sequence is printed on the+ > page (without the leading ESC character).F >   F   No specific experience, but try using ascii character 91 for escape,B instead of 27 (0x5b instead of 0x1b, that is, escpae with high bitC set). I used to have to do this on some systems to get past printerv9 and terminal handlers that wanted to change <ESC> to "$".    Lee K. Gleason N5ZMR Control-G Consultantsc lgleason@houston.rr.com    ------------------------------  , Date: Mon, 21 May 2001 16:45:23 +0200 (CEST): From: "Gotfryd Smolik, VMS lists" <gotfryd@stanpol.com.pl>8 Subject: Re: ESC characters being eaten by parallel portI Message-ID: <Pine.LNX.4.21.0105211624200.1828-100000@irys.stanpol.com.pl>   ' On Mon, 21 May 2001, Jeremy Begg wrote:a   >+Hi,- >+E >+I've set up a Genicom 5050 line printer on the parallel port of the*                 ************M >+AlphaServer DS20E here.  The machine is running OpenVMS V7.2-1.  In generalsG >+the printer works fine, but we've found that ESCape sequences are not-? >+working: the ESC character is being eaten by something. [...]G [...]B) >+The printer queue is set up as follows:- [...]- >+$ show device/full lra00F >+Printer LRA0:, device type LP11, is online, record-oriented device, !                              ^^^^g [...]35 >+    No Passall          No Wrap         No PrintalldD       ^^^^^^^^^^                          ^^^^^^^^^^^                 =  Hm... Something like the drives has (from you setting) info,a6 that you will NOT allow sequences where is not known !B  And you claim something named LP11 but use in real life something like Genicom :)i  *  At start swith both characteristics "on":$ $ SET PRINTER namer/PRINTALL/PASSALL    RTFH, of course :)t  H >+I've tried putting the ESCape sequence in the file and also in a setup >+module, but neither works.  F  Ok, printer control is funny; the queue+form+*driver* characteristics allows multi-point-search :]   [...])I >+Does anyone know of any quirks with PRTSMB that cause it to discard ESC C >+characters when sending to the in-built parallel port on a DS20E?s  ;  Althought not knowing all I can be wrong, but will propose58 for checking the point that mentioned problem is outside. of queque control: it is the driver itself ...  2 >+Replies to me (jeremy @ vsm.com.au) if possible.    OKk    Regards - Gotfryd   -- TE =====================================================================yF $ ON F$ERROR("LANGUAGE","ENGLISH","IN_MESSAGE").GT.F$ERROR("NORMAL") - 		THEN EXCUSE/OBJECT=MEs. $!                        GS@stanpol.zabrze.plE =====================================================================s   ------------------------------  % Date: Mon, 21 May 2001 11:23:38 -0400e- From: "Mitchell, David R." <mitchell@WPI.EDU> 8 Subject: RE: ESC characters being eaten by parallel portH Message-ID: <FE1835D68492D311BF7900508B5BEB0D2CA406@petra.admin.wpi.edu>  F Have you loaded the 7.2-1 update 1 patch - VMS721_UPDATE-V0100?  After@ loading this patch I experienced the same problem.  The escape =
 charactersB would simply print out at the top of the page.  The show command = wouldn'tG work either.  I called Compaq support and was sent a fix that updated =o the seta/ and show command by installing a new DCLTABLES.    David    > -----Original Message-----. > From: Jeremy Begg [mailto:jeremy@vsm.com.au]$ > Sent: Monday, May 21, 2001 8:50 AM > To: Info-VAX@Mvb.Saic.Com-6 > Subject: ESC characters being eaten by parallel port >=20 >=20 > Hi,i >=20E > I've set up a Genicom 5050 line printer on the parallel port of theb< > AlphaServer DS20E here.  The machine is running OpenVMS=20 > V7.2-1.  In generalFG > the printer works fine, but we've found that ESCape sequences are notlF > working: the ESC character is being eaten by something.  Rather than> > changing font or CPI as requested, the ESCape sequence is=20 > printed on the+ > page (without the leading ESC character).d >=20? > The printer has a "hex dump" mode so that you can see what=20s > it's receiving@ > from the host, and it would appear that no ESC character is=20 > being sent downh > the cable. >=20) > The printer queue is set up as follows:u >=20 > $ show queue/full printer_1 2 > Printer queue PRINTER_1, idle, on SLICKA::LRA0:,' > mounted form NORMAL (stock=3DDEFAULT)r% >   <Genicom Line Printer downstairs>i6 >   /AUTOSTART_ON=3D(SLICKA::LRA0:) /BASE_PRIORITY=3D4< >   /DEFAULT=3D(FORM=3DNORMAL (stock=3DDEFAULT)) Lowercase = /OWNER=3D[SYSTEM]u >   /PROCESSOR=3DPRTSMB : >   /PROTECTION=3D(S:M,O:D,G:R,W:RSM) /SCHEDULE=3D(NOSIZE) >=20< > Incidentally, the SHOW PRINTER command seems to be broken: > $ show printer lra0u) > %CLI-F-SYNTAX, error parsing 'IDSTRING'K< > -CLI-E-ENTNF, specified entity not found in command tables >=20 > $ show device/full lra0  >=20H > Printer LRA0:, device type LP11, is online, record-oriented device,=20 >     carriage control.> >=20B >     Error count                    0    Operations completed =20 >       2262B >     Owner process                 ""    Owner UIC            =20 >   [SYSTEM]; >     Owner process ID        00000000    Dev Prot      =20. > S:RWPL,O:RWPL,G,W B >     Reference count                0    Default buffer size  =20 >        255B >     Page width                   255    Page Length          =20 >         663 >     No Carriage_return  Formfeed        Lowercaseb5 >     No Passall          No Wrap         No Printall 5 >     No Fallback         No Tab          No Truncatet; >     No Sixels           No Bitmapped            No Polledi >     Unidirectional >=20H > I've tried putting the ESCape sequence in the file and also in a setup? > module, but neither works.  The printer is running in ANSI=20h > emulation mode? > and the ESCape sequences in use are the ones documented in=20e > the manual for > this emulation mode. >=20@ > Does anyone know of any quirks with PRTSMB that cause it to=20
 > discard ESC C > characters when sending to the in-built parallel port on a DS20E?  >=202 > Replies to me (jeremy @ vsm.com.au) if possible. >=20	 > Thanks,e >=20 > 	Jeremy Begg! > 	VSM Software Services Pty Ltd.o >=20   ------------------------------  % Date: Mon, 21 May 2001 11:42:30 +0100e- From: Roy Omond <Roy.Omond@BlueBubble.UK.Com>g Subject: Re: EV abbreviation0 Message-ID: <3B08F116.AE36D17@BlueBubble.UK.Com>   Roy Omond wrote:  @ > P.s. anyone got the URL for the famous DEC WRL  Research Paper > on the Electro Vlassic ?  * Aha, looks like it's returned to life at :  < 	http://www.research.compaq.com/wrl/publications/html/TN-13/   Enjoy !   	 Roy Omondt Blue Bubble Ltd.   ------------------------------  % Date: Mon, 21 May 2001 16:44:55 +0900s0 From: =?utf-8?B?7JWI7ISx7Jyk?= <syahn@icols.com>$ Subject: Re: Free emulator to VMS...( Message-ID: <9eah6g$56j$1@news.nuri.net>  , This is a multi-part message in MIME format.  + ------=_NextPart_000_002A_01C0E215.5D5DE8C0  Content-Type: text/plain;0 	charset="utf-8"+ Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printableO   compaq serves eXcursion.  A eXcursion is very powerful and Our Company use eXcursion program.a@   "Valdemir J. Santos" <valdemir-@uol.com.br> wrote in message =6 news:001a01c0dff6$f47c7580$154c88c8@unipobjetivo.br...   Hello all guys:q  -      Is there any good free emulator to VMS ?e        Thank you in advance...  + ------=_NextPart_000_002A_01C0E215.5D5DE8C0e Content-Type: text/html; 	charset="utf-8"+ Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable   > <!DOCTYPE HTML PUBLIC "-//W3C//DTD HTML 4.0 Transitional//EN"> <HTML><HEAD>G <META content=3D"text/html; charset=3Dutf-8" http-equiv=3DContent-Type>s9 <META content=3D"MSHTML 5.00.2614.3500" name=3DGENERATOR>  <STYLE></STYLE>i </HEAD>  <BODY bgColor=3D#ffffff>= <DIV><FONT face=3D=EA=B5=B4=EB=A6=BC size=3D2>compaq serves =u eXcursion.</FONT></DIV>s <DIV>&nbsp;</DIV>sJ <DIV><FONT face=3D=EA=B5=B4=EB=A6=BC size=3D2>eXcursion is very powerful = and Our Company use=20 eXcursion program.</FONT></DIV>o <BLOCKQUOTE=20J style=3D"BORDER-LEFT: #000000 2px solid; MARGIN-LEFT: 5px; MARGIN-RIGHT: =, 0px; PADDING-LEFT: 5px; PADDING-RIGHT: 0px">%   <DIV>"Valdemir J. Santos" &lt;<A=20cE   href=3D"mailto:valdemir-@uol.com.br">valdemir-@uol.com.br</A>&gt; =t wrote in=20t   message <A=20e   =fJ href=3D"news:001a01c0dff6$f47c7580$154c88c8@unipobjetivo.br">news:001a01c=4 0dff6$f47c7580$154c88c8@unipobjetivo.br</A>...</DIV>?   <DIV><FONT face=3DArial size=3D2>Hello all guys:</FONT></DIV>m   <DIV>&nbsp;</DIV> H   <DIV><FONT face=3DArial size=3D2>&nbsp;&nbsp; Is there any good free = emulator to=20   VMS ?</FONT></DIV>   <DIV>&nbsp;</DIV>n?   <DIV><FONT face=3DArial size=3D2>&nbsp;&nbsp; Thank you in=20 2 advance...</FONT></DIV></BLOCKQUOTE></BODY></HTML>  - ------=_NextPart_000_002A_01C0E215.5D5DE8C0--    ------------------------------  % Date: Mon, 21 May 2001 10:41:25 -07005! From: Shane.F.Smith@Healthnet.com $ Subject: Re: Free emulator to VMS...D Message-ID: <OF0DE885EE.F822E315-ON88256A53.0060F5F3@foundation.com>  H If something rather less advanced will do, there's a product called XLNT@ (can't remember the vendor, sorry) that provides a subset of VMSG functionality on WNT or W98. It's not a full emulation, but if Valdemir-' only needs a subset of VMS it might do.0   Shane0          D Timothy Stark <sword7@grace.speakeasy.net> on 05/19/2001 08:03:06 AM  < Please respond to Timothy Stark <sword7@grace.speakeasy.net>   To:   Info-VAX@Mvb.Saic.Comp cc:.  % Subject:  Re: Free emulator to VMS...n    0 Valdemir J. Santos <valdemir-@uol.com.br> wrote: > Hello all guys:   - >    Is there any good free emulator to VMS ?w   >    Thank you in advance...  H Check http://www.charon-vax.com but the Hobbyist program is suspended atF this time. :-(  Also, check http://www.montagar.com/hobbyist to obtainB OpenVMS 7.2.  I do not know when would OpenVMS 7.3 be available to hobbyist program yet.m  D Alternatively there are free VAX emulators but still underdeveloped. :-(D   -- Tim Stark   --. Timothy Stark  <><  Inet: sword7@speakeasy.orgJ --------------------------------------------------------------------------E "For God so loved the world, that he gave his only begotten Son, thatgH whosoever believeth in him should not perish, but have everlasting life.. Amen." -- John 3:16 (King James Version Bible)   ------------------------------  % Date: Mon, 21 May 2001 09:16:01 +0100h2 From: Chris Sharman <Chris.Sharman@CCAgroup.co.uk>' Subject: Re: From seconds to delta-time . Message-ID: <3B08DCD1.62B0E120@CCAgroup.co.uk>   Richard Maher wrote:L > So what went wrong? Do you have an example? Depending on where you put theJ > implied decimal point you might have had a couple too many zeros but VMS? > times are not opaque quadwords. It's pretty straight forward.   1 Straightforward, yes, but very easy to get wrong.i  N > I think that with JF's requirement 4137868800 (1-Jan-1990 00:00:00.00) needs@ > to be added to the times to come up with valid VMS timestamps.  D Your number (~4G) looks like the low order longword to me, or about + 17-NOV-1858 00:07. It certainly isn't 1990.i  H 8640000 is centiseconds per day. You need to multiply that by 100,000 to get VMS time format.   Chris/   ------------------------------  + Date: Mon, 21 May 2001 13:51:30 +0000 (UTC)=& From: dsf@frontiernet.net (Dan Foster)' Subject: Re: From seconds to delta-timei5 Message-ID: <9eb6h2$166a$1@node21.cwnet.roc.gblx.net>C  . In article <3B08DCD1.62B0E120@CCAgroup.co.uk>,4 Chris Sharman  <Chris.Sharman@CCAgroup.co.uk> wrote: >Richard Maher wrote:iM >> So what went wrong? Do you have an example? Depending on where you put the K >> implied decimal point you might have had a couple too many zeros but VMS @ >> times are not opaque quadwords. It's pretty straight forward. > 2 >Straightforward, yes, but very easy to get wrong.  B Also, one of my concerns with time conversion includes taking intoM consideration things such as a leap second, leap year, timezone changes, etc.   I For example, a year is actually about 365 1/4 days; you can see why we doaH a leap year every four years or so. :) Wouldn't want to be off by 86,400E seconds per 4 years, especially for a time range spanning many years.d  H In short, I prefer to use better algorithms to do time conversion, be itA a carefully crafted one or system (or library) services to do it.I   -Dan   ------------------------------  % Date: Mon, 21 May 2001 12:36:11 +0100n" From: Nic P Clews <nclews@csc.com># Subject: Re: ftp program in OpenVMSS@ Message-ID: <OF78206F44.EFEA7713-ON80256A53.003F5A8E@eu.csc.com>   (cc: for the newsgroup)DX there are already decent implementation of FTP with source code under VMS without having to resort to linux sources.e  W one major advantage you'll gain is that a VMS implementation can be taught to negotiate Z STRU O VMS so it'll bring over the full FDL and properly transfer the file attributes justM like a good old DECNET COPY. Otherwise you may have to figure out some way ofc( converting automatically from stream-lf.  S Sources for MadgoatFTP are in BLISS, and the BLISS compiler is free, with VMS beingtZ VMS your only issue will be writing the Motif front end and applying the appropriate hooksI in the code. It is not C* but it'll compile with most popular IP packages   ! http://www.madgoat.com/mgftp.html   ^ If you considered making it available, I think you'd get a bit of interest, but the STRU O VMS
 is a must!  ( Regards, Nic Clews CSC Computer Sciences nclews at csc dot com & * And i don't claim to be a programmer   ------------------------------  % Date: Mon, 21 May 2001 12:15:57 +0100h2 From: Chris Sharman <Chris.Sharman@CCAgroup.co.uk> Subject: ftp scripting. Message-ID: <3B0906FD.38F29EBB@CCAgroup.co.uk>  ' I have a requirement for ftp scripting. A I need to upload stuff, and on success rename it on both systems.LG I also need to download stuff (whatever's there), and on success deleter3 it from the server, then do things with it locally.   F I can do it I guess with DCL, but it seems like more hard work than itG ought to be: upload one file, test the status, rename + ftp rename; dir F the download area, parse it, for each file (download, test status, ftp delete).   Is there an easy way to do it ?F  A The new kermit (7.1 beta) looks promising, but doesn't seem to benE prebuilt for VMS yet. The licence forbids commercial non-internal useeH too, without providing a pointer to a (presumably chargeable) commercial licence.   Thanks, 
 Chris Sharman    ------------------------------  # Date: Mon, 21 May 2001 12:19:22 GMTc. From: "Alphaman" <alphaman64@nixspam-home.com> Subject: Re: ftp scripting< Message-ID: <eJ7O6.51357$I5.11247100@news1.rdc1.tn.home.com>  = Chris Sharman <Chris.Sharman@CCAgroup.co.uk> wrote in message ( news:3B0906FD.38F29EBB@CCAgroup.co.uk...) > I have a requirement for ftp scripting. C > I need to upload stuff, and on success rename it on both systems. I > I also need to download stuff (whatever's there), and on success delete 5 > it from the server, then do things with it locally.d  G Not a complete solution, but COPY/FTP returns $Status codes to indicateEJ successful completion.  That would obviate the requirement to parse remoteH file specs, but does not solve the "rename on the remote system" part ofJ your task.  If you don't specifically care about the $Status of the renameF command, you can easily issue ftp commands (without having to build an1 intermediate script file) by doing the following:     $ Echo = "Write Sys$Output"<  $ Pipe (( echo "rename oldname newname" ; echo "quit" ) | -,     ftp node /user=username /pass=password )  I If you want, you can pipe the output of the ftp command to a log file ande* then parse that for successful completion.   HTH, Aaron0 --> Aaron Sakovich  http://members.home.net/sakovich/alphaman.html> Make April 15 just another day:        http://www.fairtax.org/ "The Unix 'file system'o9  Sure it corrupts your data, but look at how fast it is!"e   ------------------------------   Date: 21 May 2001 12:02:12 GMT3 From: gartmann@immunbio.mpg.de (Christoph Gartmann)h Subject: Re: ftp scripting0 Message-ID: <9eb044$8s6$2@n.ruf.uni-freiburg.de>  c In article <3B0906FD.38F29EBB@CCAgroup.co.uk>, Chris Sharman <Chris.Sharman@CCAgroup.co.uk> writes:e( >I have a requirement for ftp scripting.B >I need to upload stuff, and on success rename it on both systems.H >I also need to download stuff (whatever's there), and on success delete4 >it from the server, then do things with it locally. >tG >I can do it I guess with DCL, but it seems like more hard work than itsH >ought to be: upload one file, test the status, rename + ftp rename; dirG >the download area, parse it, for each file (download, test status, ftpt	 >delete).l >t  >Is there an easy way to do it ? >-B >The new kermit (7.1 beta) looks promising, but doesn't seem to beF >prebuilt for VMS yet. The licence forbids commercial non-internal useI >too, without providing a pointer to a (presumably chargeable) commercial.	 >licence.2  K But it is definitively the tool you need. Why not send the Kermit people ane e-mail?i   Regards,    Christoph Gartmann0  H -- --------------------------------------------------------------------+H | Max-Planck-Institut fuer      Phone   : +49-761-5108-464   Fax: -452 |H | Immunbiologie                                                        |H | Postfach 1169                 Internet: gartmann@immunbio.mpg.de     |H | D-79011  Freiburg, FRG                                               |H +--------- http://www.immunbio.mpg.de/home/english/menue.html ---------+   ------------------------------   Date: 21 May 2001 17:01:10 GMT0 From: fdc@watsun.cc.columbia.edu (Frank da Cruz) Subject: Re: ftp scripting5 Message-ID: <9ebhkm$58n$1@newsmaster.cc.columbia.edu>   . In article <3B0906FD.38F29EBB@ccagroup.co.uk>,4 Chris Sharman  <Chris.Sharman@CCAgroup.co.uk> wrote:) : I have a requirement for ftp scripting.aC : I need to upload stuff, and on success rename it on both systems.sI : I also need to download stuff (whatever's there), and on success delete 5 : it from the server, then do things with it locally.d : ...nC : The new kermit (7.1 beta) looks promising, but doesn't seem to ben : prebuilt for VMS yet.* : 5 Yes, the new C-Kermit would do exactly what you want:+  /   http://www.columbia.edu/kermit/ftpclient.htmls0   http://www.columbia.edu/kermit/ftpscripts.html  I and no, it's not available for VMS yet.  It's not just a simple matter ofbI building.  A lot of code has to be written too, and this would have to besH done by a C programmer who is more intimate with VMS TCP/IP stacks, RMS,I and VMS FTP protocol extensions than I am.  We don't want it to be just a I C-Library port of the UNIX version -- we want it to handle VMS as well asNB native FTP clients do, but with all the added benefits (scripting,G automatic per-file text/binary-mode switching, recursion, character-set I conversion, etc).  I've put out a number of feelers but so far nobody has-% taken the bait (block that metaphor!)o  I There is definitely a demand.  I hope someone can step up and fill in the ' VMS particulars.  C-Kermit 7.1 is here:   *   http://www.columbia.edu/kermit/ck71.html   and the FTP module is:  5   ftp://kermit.columbia.edu/kermit/test/text/ckcftp.cp  1 : The licence forbids commercial non-internal usehJ : too, without providing a pointer to a (presumably chargeable) commercial
 : licence. :oH Yes, if you want to furnish Kermit software to customers or clients, youE need to license it.  That's not a bad thing.  You get money from yourdH customers and clients, we get money from you.  It's like the food chain. We all have to eat.    - Franke   ------------------------------  , Date: Mon, 21 May 2001 18:27:41 +0200 (CEST): From: "Gotfryd Smolik, VMS lists" <gotfryd@stanpol.com.pl>; Subject: Re: mounting 2 disk with the same label in clusternI Message-ID: <Pine.LNX.4.21.0105211805040.1828-100000@irys.stanpol.com.pl>   & On Wed, 9 May 2001, Jouk Jansen wrote:  " >+Gotfryd Smolik, VMS lists wrote: [...elses posts cut...]eA >+>  Perhaps ;) VMS will use the label as the filesystem name, tog/ >+> be precise as the cluster-wide lock name :)e >+>  Check with ANAL/SYS :) G >+With a quick check I could not find this. What command of SDA did youh >+have in mind?h    SHOW DEVICE and look for lock ID info     SHOW LOCK the_id_of_lockh>  and look for lock names of form: F11B<byte><byte>volume_label  	  Example:h SDA> SHOW DEV VDA0:  I/O data structuresu [...next page...]0 I/O data structures  -------------------   ;                 --- Volume Control Block (VCB) 80E0C580 ---   0 Volume: USER             Lock name: USER         [...] ! Vol. lock ID    010002CB    [...] ! Block. lock ID  2C0001B1    [...]( [...]N  :  If you DISMOUNT the device you may find that SDA does NOT> display any lock ID and after remount the ID's are differrent,% but the name of resource is the same. C  *probably* the Vol.lock Id is the "name of filesystem" (correction % or flaming are welcome, haven't RTFM)G  ) >+ Right, the logical is NOT the problem.d    -:)    Regards - Gotfryd   -- vE =====================================================================oF $ ON F$ERROR("LANGUAGE","ENGLISH","IN_MESSAGE").GT.F$ERROR("NORMAL") - 		THEN EXCUSE/OBJECT=ME . $!                        GS@stanpol.zabrze.plE =====================================================================]   ------------------------------  % Date: Mon, 21 May 2001 09:49:28 +0100R% From: Alan Greig <a.greig@virgin.net>  Subject: Re: Mozilla 0.98 Message-ID: <8okhgtc42ujqnoag21tb8d4jfge0a2n8de@4ax.com>  @ On Sun, 20 May 2001 01:52:31 GMT, system@SendSpamHere.ORG (Brian Schenkenberger, VAXman-) wrote:b  M >lObviously then, since my problem hasn't piqued anybody's interest, I should & >just go bugger off by your standards?    N >It seems obvious that he reads this newsgroup.  He's posted numerous messagesK >about Mozilla and he's posted follow-ups to Mozilla threads, except mine. u  C Well Colin has both responded to my posts in news and privately. It A does seem strange he hasn't responded directly to you. Perhaps he2E could supply a build with some more debugging information or possiblyo> you could build the sources yourself and run mozilla under theF debugger if your available time and priorities permit. I have no doubt& you are technically more than capable.    : >> And complaining loudly about bugs in alpha test quality >>software is a bit pointless. >-4 >Been absorbed in to the Micro$oft mindset have you?   From the Mozilla Release Notes:R  D We make binary versions of of Mozilla available for testing purposesB only!. We provide no end user support. If you use our binaries, weF strongly encourage you to participate in the various mailing lists andD newsgroups hosted by mozilla.org. Please report any bugs you find toE bugzilla! That, of course, is the whole reason we make these binaries 	 availablee   -- Alan   ------------------------------  % Date: Mon, 21 May 2001 10:24:51 +0100s% From: Alan Greig <a.greig@virgin.net>@ Subject: Re: Mozilla 0.98 Message-ID: <k3nhgt0dm8aaf1gqkjmeo1ddik1bdde51d@4ax.com>  @ On Sat, 19 May 2001 13:43:17 GMT, system@SendSpamHere.ORG (Brian Schenkenberger, VAXman-) wrote:   E 1. a place where trees are cut down and streets are named after them.: >o >-P >Just for shits and giggles, I ran Mozilla from the console with display set to  >the graphics display local. >l >$ @MOZILLAo >Starting mozilla-bin...0 >Registering plugin 0 for : "*","All types",",*"L >Gdk-ERROR **: Fatal IO error 65535 (connection aborted) on X server _WSA6:.   Brian,  F I've just checked my output from a startup of Mozilla 0.9. Here's what I see.   $ @sys$common:[mozilla]mozilla Starting mozilla-bin...r4 Document http://www.mozilla.org/ loaded successfully  ; I don't see the "Registering plugin..." line at this point.M  D However if I then go on to  click a link requiring a plugin (such asD Linux from the opening page) I *then* get "Registering plugin 0...".> Could you have an alternate home page set that is triggering a problem?  6 >%CXXL-F-TERMINATE, terminate() or unexpected() called0 >%TRACE-F-TRACEBACK, symbolic stack dump follows >  image    module >s >  >Then nothing...   -- Alan   ------------------------------  # Date: Mon, 21 May 2001 15:20:36 GMTB' From: Colin Blake <colin@theblakes.com>T Subject: Re: Mozilla 0.9- Message-ID: <3B09322F.6F099726@theblakes.com>D  & "Brian Schenkenberger, VAXman-" wrote:  O > It seems obvious that he reads this newsgroup.  He's posted numerous messageseK > about Mozilla and he's posted follow-ups to Mozilla threads, except mine.b  s I'm sorry, what have I missed here? I try to follow all Mozilla postings in this newsgroup and contribute if I can.y  y Can you post the question/problem again, or better yet, enter a problem report in Bugzilla (http://bugzilla.mozilla.org).=   Colin.   ------------------------------  # Date: Mon, 21 May 2001 17:09:22 GMT&= From: system@SendSpamHere.ORG (Brian Schenkenberger, VAXman-)T Subject: Re: Mozilla 0.90 Message-ID: <009FC57F.B7AAA4AC@SendSpamHere.ORG>  W In article <3B09322F.6F099726@theblakes.com>, Colin Blake <colin@theblakes.com> writes:l' >"Brian Schenkenberger, VAXman-" wrote:  >.P >> It seems obvious that he reads this newsgroup.  He's posted numerous messagesL >> about Mozilla and he's posted follow-ups to Mozilla threads, except mine. >et >I'm sorry, what have I missed here? I try to follow all Mozilla postings in this newsgroup and contribute if I can. >iz >Can you post the question/problem again, or better yet, enter a problem report in Bugzilla (http://bugzilla.mozilla.org).  F Can I do so *without* an email address?  There is no published privacyE statement @ http://bugzilla.mozilla.org; therefore, I will not submito7 my email address.  I already get too too too much SPAM.r   --O VAXman- OpenVMS APE certification number: AAA-0001     VAXman(at)TMESIS(dot)COMk            cO city, n., 1. a place where trees are cut down and streets are named after them.    ------------------------------  # Date: Mon, 21 May 2001 12:08:19 GMTp= From: system@SendSpamHere.ORG (Brian Schenkenberger, VAXman-)o( Subject: Re: OT: UPS monitoring software0 Message-ID: <009FC555.A9004CA3@SendSpamHere.ORG>  n In article <J0u9kq2s5ovl@tachxxsoftxxconsult>, wayne@tachysoft.xxx.310887.killspam.0162 (Wayne Sewell) writes:q >In article <009FC434.04275752@SendSpamHere.ORG>, system@SendSpamHere.ORG (Brian Schenkenberger, VAXman-) writes: q >> In article <6LwswLvXIEka@tachxxsoftxxconsult>, wayne@tachysoft.xxx.310887.killspam.0162 (Wayne Sewell) writes:i >> {...snip...}-P >>>> getting an update for the Alphas.  It *appears* that APC doesn't support itA >>>> anymore.  All the references I found were 3 or 4 years old. a >>> O >>>Even when they did, the price was jacked way up for the vms version.  But ofa1 >>>course *that's* never happened before, has it?w >> yO >> .... and the PowerChute for VMS was little more than a simple signal watchertO >> too.  It's nothing at all like the software of the same name for other plat-t( >> forms and you pay a premium for it.   > O >Didn't know that part.  I never actually bought the thing because of the price N >gouge.  Obviously, it wouldn't have the graphical stuff, since so few vendorsO >can/will deal with X, but I assumed it had the same basic functionality as thet >billy version.  Stupid me.  s  M But I believe that they do have unix versions of PowerChute and, presumably, a these versions use X.-    ( >>When I spoke to the folks at APC, theyN >> said that they needed to charge more because VMS was so dificult to programN >> for and not as robust as other platforms they support!  One of the many too# >> many reasons I created UPShot.  C >oL >Not as robust?!?!   I had no idea anyone could be that clueless, especially  K You want clueless?  Go talk to the folks that I made the mistake of workingoL for circa 7 years ago if you want the quintescential definition of clueless.    K >someone who must have at least *seen* a vms system at some point (one must P >assume that they had some sort of system to develop their "dificult to program"O >application on, unless it was delivered by the Software Fairy).  I wonder whatd! >their definition of "robust" is.   N I'll bet they outsource the development to some Billy-Box toting prepubescents that can bearly spell VMS.   --O VAXman- OpenVMS APE certification number: AAA-0001     VAXman(at)TMESIS(dot)COMr             O city, n., 1. a place where trees are cut down and streets are named after them.,   ------------------------------   Date: 21 May 2001 14:41:54 GMT2 From: mathog@seqaxp.bio.caltech.edu (David Mathog)( Subject: Re: OT: UPS monitoring software, Message-ID: <9eb9fi$gdc@gap.cco.caltech.edu>  i In article <hukN6.5779$bv2.2404801@typhoon.austin.rr.com>, "Jay E. Morris" <morrisj@epsilon3.com> writes:w9 >In message <9e2002$8i7$2@odo.ecs.umass.edu>, Joe Heimannt# ><heimann@nog.ecs.umass.edu> wrote:g >.......K >> At the consumer level, small office and home sized UPS's have been goingnK >> towards USB for the serial connection instead of a RS-232 based one.  ItDK >> looks like some of the "PC centric" manufacturers are doing this so they.I >> can sell to both the PC and Mac owners who want the ability to monitoryJ >> power and auto-shutdown.  I have not heard if anyone has scoped out theJ >> signals being sent over the USB link yet, so have no idea how robust itJ >> will be against the kind of situation outlined.  Hopefully it will be a; >> bit more robust than the APC software on a serial line. d >> cJ >And speaking of UPSes, what UPS maker is still providing VMS software?  IM >got some Best Power models.  I had to spend hours on the phone two years agouL >getting an update for the Alphas.  It *appears* that APC doesn't support it= >anymore.  All the references I found were 3 or 4 years old. 5  J I wrote a small program a while back that will handle "bit control" UPS's.G I've only tested it on TrippLite's but if you know the logic signals itiJ could be made to work with any other UPS (assuming the right special cable is used.)  See:   6   http://saf.bio.caltech.edu/pub/SOFTWARE/TCONTROL.ZIP   Regards,   David Mathog mathog@caltech.edu? Manager, sequence analysis facility, biology division, Caltech e   ------------------------------  % Date: Mon, 21 May 2001 12:50:18 -0400u+ From: John Eisenschmidt <jeisensc@aaas.org>e( Subject: Re: OT: UPS monitoring software# Message-ID: <sb090f13.053@aaas.org>   K I have a copy of Power Chute 1.2 for OpenVMS AXP in my hand. Works like a =s% charm (and the connection is serial).i  I >>> David Mathog <mathog@seqaxp.bio.caltech.edu> 05/21/2001 10:41:54 AM =t >>>pL In article <hukN6.5779$bv2.2404801@typhoon.austin.rr.com>, "Jay E. Morris" = <morrisj@epsilon3.com> writes:9 >In message <9e2002$8i7$2@odo.ecs.umass.edu>, Joe Heimannm# ><heimann@nog.ecs.umass.edu> wrote:f >.......G >> At the consumer level, small office and home sized UPS's have been =  going J >> towards USB for the serial connection instead of a RS-232 based one.  = ItH >> looks like some of the "PC centric" manufacturers are doing this so = theyI >> can sell to both the PC and Mac owners who want the ability to monitorfJ >> power and auto-shutdown.  I have not heard if anyone has scoped out theJ >> signals being sent over the USB link yet, so have no idea how robust itJ >> will be against the kind of situation outlined.  Hopefully it will be a= >> bit more robust than the APC software on a serial line.=20e >>=20 J >And speaking of UPSes, what UPS maker is still providing VMS software?  IK >got some Best Power models.  I had to spend hours on the phone two years =u agoiK >getting an update for the Alphas.  It *appears* that APC doesn't support =  it? >anymore.  All the references I found were 3 or 4 years old.=20   J I wrote a small program a while back that will handle "bit control" UPS's.G I've only tested it on TrippLite's but if you know the logic signals itaJ could be made to work with any other UPS (assuming the right special cable is used.)  See:=20  9   http://saf.bio.caltech.edu/pub/SOFTWARE/TCONTROL.ZIP=20:   Regards,   David Mathog mathog@caltech.edu=20 A Manager, sequence analysis facility, biology division, Caltech=20-   ------------------------------  # Date: Mon, 21 May 2001 17:14:32 GMTn= From: system@SendSpamHere.ORG (Brian Schenkenberger, VAXman-)e( Subject: Re: OT: UPS monitoring software0 Message-ID: <009FC580.7011DBC7@SendSpamHere.ORG>  Q In article <sb090f13.053@aaas.org>, John Eisenschmidt <jeisensc@aaas.org> writes: L >I have a copy of Power Chute 1.2 for OpenVMS AXP in my hand. Works like a =& >charm (and the connection is serial).  H Can you monitor the current power load?  Determine the run-time based onH the current load?  Set the self-test interval, battery thresholds, alarmI delays, warning times, power up/down delays, transfer voltages, identity,e etc., etc., etc?     --O VAXman- OpenVMS APE certification number: AAA-0001     VAXman(at)TMESIS(dot)COMt            nO city, n., 1. a place where trees are cut down and streets are named after them.    ------------------------------  / Date: Mon, 21 May 2001 09:01:35 +0200 (MET DST)t& From: Rudolf Wingert <win@fom.fgan.de>; Subject: Re: Page- and swapfile cleanup (specialy shutdown)i6 Message-ID: <200105210657.IAA14910@sinet1.fom.fgan.de>   Hello,   thank's for all the answers.  J My question about the best way to install a priviledged user for shutdown,K has the background, the the system is a CDE driven workstation. AFAIK there4G is no captive account possible. Is this information up to date? If yes, E is it possible with the session startup procedure to create a virtuale captive account?   Regards Rudolf Wingert   ------------------------------   Date: 21 May 2001 07:29:19 GMT3 From: gartmann@immunbio.mpg.de (Christoph Gartmann)-* Subject: Re: Pascal program not running...0 Message-ID: <9eag4f$2ml$1@n.ruf.uni-freiburg.de>  g In article <000a01c0e1a7$fdb59de0$d2010001@desenv>, "Valdemir J. Santos" <valdemir-@uol.com.br> writes:cK >  I made a Pascal program in an AlphaStation 500/333.  In this machine,=20pJ >  the program run OK. When I copy the executable file to an AlphaServer =
 >DS20E,=203 >  the program doesn't run, and I get this message:e >o3 >  %DCL-W-ACTIMAGE, error activating image SCAN_ALLl; >  -CLI-E-IMGNAME, image file DKA0:[DS_SUPORTE.CLUSTER] =20  >  SCAN_ALL.EXE;1e? >  -IMGACT-F-NOTNATIVE, image is not an OpenVMS Alpha image.=20i >fJ >   Why this program doesn=B4t run in the AlphaServer, but run OK in the = >AlphaStation ?m) >   Both machines haves OpenVMS V7.2 .=20w  K How did you transfer the files? It is most likely that you used an improper B transfer method. If you used FTP, did you use IMAGE transfer mode?   Regards,    Christoph Gartmann   H -- --------------------------------------------------------------------+H | Max-Planck-Institut fuer      Phone   : +49-761-5108-464   Fax: -452 |H | Immunbiologie                                                        |H | Postfach 1169                 Internet: gartmann@immunbio.mpg.de     |H | D-79011  Freiburg, FRG                                               |H +--------- http://www.immunbio.mpg.de/home/english/menue.html ---------+   ------------------------------   Date: 21 May 2001 07:11:08 CDT= From: wayne@tachysoft.xxx.310887.killspam.0162 (Wayne Sewell)t* Subject: Re: Pascal program not running.... Message-ID: <0KXCGXqE5Bje@tachxxsoftxxconsult>  g In article <000a01c0e1a7$fdb59de0$d2010001@desenv>, "Valdemir J. Santos" <valdemir-@uol.com.br> writes:n  . > This is a multi-part message in MIME format.  ; Please turn off mime.  It is not appropriate for newgroups.,  L >   I made a Pascal program in an AlphaStation 500/333.  In this machine,=20K >   the program run OK. When I copy the executable file to an AlphaServer =l > DS20E,=20 4 >   the program doesn't run, and I get this message: > 4 >   %DCL-W-ACTIMAGE, error activating image SCAN_ALL< >   -CLI-E-IMGNAME, image file DKA0:[DS_SUPORTE.CLUSTER] =20 >   SCAN_ALL.EXE;1@ >   -IMGACT-F-NOTNATIVE, image is not an OpenVMS Alpha image.=20 > K >    Why this program doesn=B4t run in the AlphaServer, but run OK in the =t > AlphaStation ?* >    Both machines haves OpenVMS V7.2 .=20 >    Thank you in advance...    N You don't say how you did the copy from one machine to the other.  If you used. ftp, you must redo the copy using binary mode.     -- eO ===============================================================================hM Wayne Sewell, Tachyon Software Consulting  (281)812-0738  wayne@tachysoft.xxx : http://www.tachysoft.xxx/www/tachyon.html and wayne.html  K change .xxx to .com in addresses above, assuming you are not a spambot  :-) O ===============================================================================-K Hotel guy (after bed demolition):  That bed goes back to Henry the eighth!!eO    Curly: That's nothin'!  We had a bed go back to Sears and Roebuck the fifth!.   ------------------------------  % Date: Mon, 21 May 2001 10:50:00 +0100v% From: Alan Greig <a.greig@virgin.net>p Subject: Re: PGP revisited8 Message-ID: <qjohgts4f6joassaclqughp1o5ciq56l7s@4ax.com>  B On 20 May 2001 19:04:42 -0700, cstranslations@msn.com (Joe) wrote:  A >Anyone out there running PGP on VMS - a version more recent than D >2.6.3? 2.6.3 (obviously) can't handle public keys generated by more >recent versions.=  B Be aware with PGP versions greater than 7.03 there is no guaranteeC that there are no backdoors in the code and full source code is notEE published so you can't just build yourself. Phil Zimmerman (author of=E PGP) has resigned from NAI because of this. This is what he said in a-+ news posting: He now works for www.hush.com:   >.  New seniorB >management assumed control of PGP Security in the final months of@ >2000, and decided to reduce how much PGP source code they wouldF >publish.  If NAI ever publishes the complete PGP 7.0.3 source code, IF >am confident that the public will be able to see that there are stillD >no back doors.  Until that time, I can offer only my own assurancesD >that this version of PGP was developed on my watch, and has no backC >doors.  In fact, I believe it to be the most secure version of PGPs >produced to date.      A >Are there any commercially available versions? Anyone working onsF >porting recent source (beyond a "vapor port")? I haven't been able to >turn anything up. >mF >Although what seems to be the most recent source (6.5.3 I believe) isG >described as "platform independent" the platform independence seems toiF >depend on a whole lot of preprocessor directives and the build taking+ >place on Unix (suprise, suprise, suprise).h >eF >Trying to get 6.5.3 to compile on OpenVMS looks to be a bit involved.F >The other alternative is passing files off to a PC and then retriving& >the encrypted file (less that ideal). >  >Joe   -- Alan   ------------------------------  # Date: Mon, 21 May 2001 12:41:20 GMTt& From: dorenat@mailandnewsdot.com (Bob) Subject: Re: PGP revisited: Message-ID: <Xns90A8595CDE8A2gneissmailroom@63.210.103.21>  I Joe, we too could not find a free or shareware version for latest VMS on rH Alpha.  As a workaround we installed latest PGP on a Linux box, and use I Kermit (start it on VMS, run Kermit on Linux in server mode) to transfer jL the files and control PGP.  It works very well, since PGP can be controlled M entirely by command switches; all of our PGP jobs are completely automated.  e: I can share command files if you want to see how I did it.   --Bobe    F >Trying to get 6.5.3 to compile on OpenVMS looks to be a bit involved.F >The other alternative is passing files off to a PC and then retriving& >the encrypted file (less that ideal). >  >Joe   ------------------------------  % Date: Mon, 21 May 2001 08:41:08 -04005  From: Dima Volodin <dvv@dvv.org>+ Subject: Re: POSIX threads and word tearingo' Message-ID: <3B090CE4.B8F6B354@dvv.org>'   Bill Todd wrote: > / > "Dima Volodin" <dvv@dvv.org> wrote in messager# > news:3B06DD3A.BA9DE244@dvv.org...a >  > ...f > K > > Exactly how can an application be responsible for avoiding word tearingf > whenI > > there's simply no such thing as a "full machine word" in the standardp
 > (unless,N > > of course, I missed something)? And who said that the "entire entity" is a > word) > > and not any other addressable entity?e > M > My interpretation of the wording is that the application is responsible for K > understanding the architecture on which it is running such that it avoids-M > operations that would not adhere to the standard's requirements.  I.e., thetJ > standard doesn't presume to dictate how the hardware should work (a wiseM > decision, since most hardware would simply tell it to take a flying leap ifaJ > it did), but does require (in fact, for this type of situation it prettyG > much *has to* require) that the application adapt its behavior to the,D > hardware in cases like this where the hardware does in fact make a
 > difference.c  O I have no problems adapting my application to a particular hardware, all I needeK to know is what exactly I need to adapt to. As I asked a couple of messages-M back, how do I get this hardware specific information using POSIX interfaces?tL And yes, I know how to do hardware specific tuning using things like '#ifdefP i386/alpha/sparc' and asm(), but I don't really think that a "Portable Operating= System Interfaces" compliant code should use hacks like that."  G > If you think that's not pretty, come up with a better alternative andd$ > suggest it to the standards group.  N Introduce the notion of memory granularity, very much alike the one defined in@ http://www.openvms.compaq.com:8000/72final/6493/6101pro_007.html   > - bill > > > - bill > > Dima   Dima   ------------------------------    Date: 21 May 2001 11:12:19 -0500- From: koehler@encompasserve.org (Bob Koehler)h+ Subject: Re: POSIX threads and word tearingw3 Message-ID: <3hPh2GMVNRTZ@eisner.encompasserve.org>a  J In article <3B090CE4.B8F6B354@dvv.org>, Dima Volodin <dvv@dvv.org> writes:Q > I have no problems adapting my application to a particular hardware, all I needeM > to know is what exactly I need to adapt to. As I asked a couple of messages O > back, how do I get this hardware specific information using POSIX interfaces?-N > And yes, I know how to do hardware specific tuning using things like '#ifdefR > i386/alpha/sparc' and asm(), but I don't really think that a "Portable Operating? > System Interfaces" compliant code should use hacks like that.a  H The closer you get to the hardware the less usefull standards like POSIXC are.  I had a simple program to scan tapes.  It ran on a variety ofaG POSIX compliant systems.  50 lines of C and 250 lines of #ifdef's for 4s or 5 POSIX compliant systems.@  H There's no reason a standard can't go to these levels, but I've not seen one that does.  F ----------------------------------------------------------------------? Bob Koehler                     | Computer Sciences Corporatione= NASA GSFC Flight Software       | Federal Sector, Civil GroupwE                                 | please remove ".aspm" when replyingr   ------------------------------  % Date: Mon, 21 May 2001 09:20:55 -0500t1 From: "David J. Dachtera" <djesys.nospam@fsi.net>'" Subject: Re: Problems using CSWING' Message-ID: <3B092447.6AFE4C67@fsi.net>s   "Richard L. Dyson" wrote:. >  > Koloth wrote:t > >aF > > I'm having an annoying problem when I use CSWING from the freewareJ > > disk.  I've tried it on Alphas running OpenVMS V7.1 and V7.2-1H1.  TheE > > problem is that very often while using the arrow keys to navigatehG > > arround the CSWING directory tree the escape sequences keep gettingxJ > > munged and it is interpreting the arrow key as just a letter.  This of  > > course is very frustraiting. > O > What kind of terminal are you using? DECterm, true VT, PC term emulator, etc.> > M > I see this sometimes too, but never with my DECterms or VT340 windows on annK > X-Terminal or with KEA! VT340-emulator on a Win/PC.  I only see it on old 	 > VT340s.a  H Make sure to SET TERM/HOSTSYNC in your LOGIN.COM, or set the appropriateB bit in the TTY_DEFCHAR parameter (%X10, see the parameters HELP inH SYSMAN or SYSGEN). This can cause problems, perhaps including this - the* default is usually to not enable HOSTSYNC.   Just a thought...a   -- s David J. Dachterav dba DJE Systemsu http://www.djesys.com/  : Unofficial Affordable OpenVMS Home Page and Message Board: http://www.djesys.com/vms/soho/"  F This *IS* an OpenVMS-related newsgroup. So, a certain bias in postings is to be expected.  @ Feel free to exercise your rights of free speech and expression.  F However, attacks against individual posters, or groups of posters, are strongly discouraged.a   ------------------------------  , Date: Mon, 21 May 2001 17:09:34 +0200 (CEST): From: "Gotfryd Smolik, VMS lists" <gotfryd@stanpol.com.pl>& Subject: Re: Recognising a LAT ServiceI Message-ID: <Pine.LNX.4.21.0105211705230.1828-100000@irys.stanpol.com.pl>   # On 20 May 2001, rodney_jones wrote:o  H >+I have an Alpha OpenVMS Cluster.  Using LATCP I have created a ServiceB >+called LAB that is available on several nodes.  I connect to theA >+Service using VT Terminals via an Emulex P4000 Terminal Server.iG >+Is there any way from DCL (e.g. during execution of LOGIN.COM) that IoG >+can discover whether a User-Connection was initiated by selecting theP
 >+LAB Servicef    Check the output of:o! $ MCR LATCP SHOW CONNECTION /FULLa  : >+as against simply connecting to a node (or, indeed, some >+other service)?v  -  You are aware of the /APPLICATION in LATCP ?a  <  Send info what you will do; "requestor get answer(s) about < what has ask, but that is not neccessary the same as he/she + wants" - the point was here much time... :) ;  At least additional connection requires additional licenses= (may or may not be a problem) and uses some system resources.     Regards - Gotfryd   -- sE =====================================================================aF $ ON F$ERROR("LANGUAGE","ENGLISH","IN_MESSAGE").GT.F$ERROR("NORMAL") - 		THEN EXCUSE/OBJECT=MEe. $!                        GS@stanpol.zabrze.plE =====================================================================i   ------------------------------   Date: 21 May 2001 06:57:56 CDT= From: wayne@tachysoft.xxx.310887.killspam.0162 (Wayne Sewell)S: Subject: Re: Spambot Fodder - Dont Bother To Read - Thanks. Message-ID: <uG+unQ+Qw04m@tachxxsoftxxconsult>  [ In article <9e9o1c$9pj$1442@neptunium.btinternet.com>, iam@deathsdoor.fsworld.co.uk writes:-    2 This guy combats spambots by spamming?  Brilliant.       -- cO =============================================================================== M Wayne Sewell, Tachyon Software Consulting  (281)812-0738  wayne@tachysoft.xxx : http://www.tachysoft.xxx/www/tachyon.html and wayne.html  K change .xxx to .com in addresses above, assuming you are not a spambot  :-)AO ===============================================================================rK Hotel guy (after bed demolition):  That bed goes back to Henry the eighth!!sO    Curly: That's nothin'!  We had a bed go back to Sears and Roebuck the fifth!o   ------------------------------    Date: 21 May 2001 02:49:41 -0700D From: ute.nischelwitzer-fennes@oeaw.ac.at (Ute Nischelwitzer-Fennes)A Subject: tcpip services / ucx latest version? - passive mode ftp?d= Message-ID: <e176a164.0105210149.39e46ac1@posting.google.com>   
 Hi out there,i  D can anybody confirm to me, that the latest version of tcpip services@ for openvms is 5.1, and if so, does v5.1 support a "passive mode ftp"?!?    Thanks a lot   Utew   ------------------------------  % Date: Mon, 21 May 2001 12:40:06 +0200b, From: Theo Jakobus <theo.jakobus@iaf.fhg.de>E Subject: Re: tcpip services / ucx latest version? - passive mode ftp?r) Message-ID: <3B08F086.9080706@iaf.fhg.de>w   Ute Nischelwitzer-Fennes wrote:    > Hi out there,  > F > can anybody confirm to me, that the latest version of tcpip servicesB > for openvms is 5.1, and if so, does v5.1 support a "passive mode	 > ftp"?!?  >  > Thanks a lot >  > Uteh >    $ TCPIP SHOW VERSION  @    Compaq TCP/IP Services for OpenVMS Alpha Version V5.1 - ECO 1<    on a Digital Personal WorkStation  running OpenVMS V7.2-1   $(    ' Information about ftp client or server:S  K http://www.openvms.compaq.com:8000/73FINAL/6524/6524pro_002.html#index_x_68,     Regards,   Jakobusc   ------------------------------    Date: 21 May 2001 06:51:09 -0700( From: dbowman35@hotmail.com (Gary Morin)$ Subject: Re: Unexpected NCP behavior= Message-ID: <751244ed.0105210551.4da1c4c5@posting.google.com>X   Thanks everybody --:  C I was able to fix it with help from these responses.  It looks likeR: you must not just stop ucx but never start it in order forD netconfig.com to correctly configure the sva-0 controller in DECnet.  
 Thanks again.a  	   -- Garye  h koehler@encompasserve.org (Bob Koehler) wrote in message news:<YwHjuUBjd5MI@eisner.encompasserve.org>...j > In article <751244ed.0105180854.4cbb5a49@posting.google.com>, dbowman35@hotmail.com (Gary Morin) writes:C > > Well I tried to turn DECnet on a 4000-60 I have that is alreadytH > > running UCX.  I ran netconfig.com and then executed the startnet.com > > and got an error on the  > >  > > set line sva-0 state ons > > 8 > > NCP INVPVA invalid parameter value, physical address > >  > H > You generally can't start DECnet after some other protocol is running.J > IF UCX is already running, it's already made use of the default physicalF > address (the hardware address).  DECnet wants to change the physicalI > address and UCX would be perfectly happy to use what DECnet wants, but  # > DECnet can't change it afterward.w > H > Current versions of LAT and VMScluster are happy to have DECnet change8 > addresses on them, and DECnet can start up after them. > E > The easy way:  startup DECnet in systartup_vms.com before any othereG > protocol, reboot.  The hard way:  stop all the other protocols, start-  > DECnet, then start the others. > B > SVA-0 is what the DECnet database is using to keep track of yourJ > Ethernet controller.  It should show up under NCP with "show known line"J > and "show known circuit".  VMS probably has given it a name which starts) > with E (under DCL show device command).r > H > ----------------------------------------------------------------------A > Bob Koehler                     | Computer Sciences Corporationn? > NASA GSFC Flight Software       | Federal Sector, Civil Group G >                                 | please remove ".aspm" when replying    ------------------------------  % Date: Mon, 21 May 2001 11:17:09 +0100X- From: Roy Omond <Roy.Omond@BlueBubble.UK.Com>p Subject: Re: VAX Acronym1 Message-ID: <3B08EB25.23892EE3@BlueBubble.UK.Com>r   Phil Howell wrote: > D > VAX AcronymAnd Alpha generations are named EVnn for "extended vax"8 > so we now have "Extended Virtual Address eXtension" :)  / Shame on you for spreading misinformation ! :-)   2 Everyone knows (or should know) that EV stands for   ... Electro Vlassic ...-  > P.s. anyone got the URL for the famous DEC WRL  Research Paper on the Electro Vlassic ?  	 Roy Omond- Blue Bubble Ltd.   ------------------------------  % Date: Mon, 21 May 2001 08:59:58 -0400   From: jamese@beast.dtsw.army.mil Subject: Re: VAX Acronym0 Message-ID: <01052108595854@beast.dtsw.army.mil>  0 Roy Omond <Roy.Omond@BlueBubble.UK.Com> wrote onI Mon, 21 May 2001 11:17:09 +0100 in <3B08EB25.23892EE3@BlueBubble.UK.Com>:-  4 > Everyone knows (or should know) that EV stands for >  > ... Electro Vlassic ...1 > @ > P.s. anyone got the URL for the famous DEC WRL  Research Paper > on the Electro Vlassic ?  D http://www.research.compaq.com/wrl/publications/abstracts/TN-13.html  : Ed James                           ed.james@telecomsys.com5 TeleCommunications Systems, Inc.   voice 410-295-1919 ; 2024 West Street, Suite 300              800-810-0827 x1919 5 Annapolis, MD 21401-3556           fax   410-280-10943   ------------------------------    Date: 21 May 2001 10:45:41 +0200G From: Jan Vorbrueggen <jan@mailhost.neuroinformatik.ruhr-uni-bochum.de>,  Subject: Re: vfork/exec questionH Message-ID: <y43d9zjdje.fsf@mailhost.neuroinformatik.ruhr-uni-bochum.de>  ' "Paul Dembry" <pade@trifox.com> writes:C  G > Definitely.  I created a client program that looped making connection=J > attempts.  I then started up 5 of these, each attempting 20 connections.L > With the CREPRC method, I could connect perhaps 9 times out of 100 whereasE > with the vfork() method, I connected 100 times out of 100 attempts.   M Depending on exactly how you implemented this, you might be seeing the result.N of a race condition. Consider: In the original scenario, the original listenerK becomes a client - which implies it must de-register itself as the listener@I for incoming requests - and then creates a new listener. This potentially I leaves a time window when there is no registered listener for the port in I question (the terminology you're using sounds very IP-like). In the vfork=L scenario, this cannot happen - the request might be queued while the process. creation happens, but it will not be rejected.  F $CREPRC cannot be slower than vfork because vfork is layered on top ofG $CREPRC. However, you have to have a good idea of what actually happensgI when you create a process in the various ways (e.g., using LIB$SPAWN) foroG the trade-offs involved. Just a bare-bones $CREPRC is as fast as a UnixoI process creation (the internal mechanisms are in fact quite similar), bute? what happens then makes for quite different performance issues.r  J A good suggestion is to go with an adaptive number of processes in a pool.) Most web servers, for instance, use this.    	Jan   ------------------------------    Date: 21 May 2001 18:28:48 +0800, From: Paul Repacholi <prep@prep.synonet.com>  Subject: Re: vfork/exec question- Message-ID: <87ae470zdr.fsf@prep.synonet.com>i  4 mathog@seqaxp.bio.caltech.edu (David Mathog) writes:  ' > But fork is a fast operation on Unix.n  9 Yes, but then doing anything isn't. Try timing fork-exec.G  C >  Process creation on VMS is slow (at least until DII/COE anyway). B > Do you really see any performance improvement over CREPRC? You'dE > likely do better to pre-create a pool of processes and shuffle jobsfF > among them, obviating the need for the constant process creation.  I@ > think that's what the OSU server does for speed, for instance.  C Better to handle it in one process in VMS. Btw, what will most unixcH peole do with more than 32K processes?? Seems there are some brick walls in their future...   --  < Paul Repacholi                               1 Crescent Rd.,7 +61 (08) 9257-1001                           Kalamunda.d@                                              West Australia 6076. Raw, Cooked or Well-done, it's all half baked.H Spam-To: uce@ftc.gov,enforcement@sec.gov,sness@fcc.gov,hfurchtg@fcc.gov,#   mpowell@fcc.gov,gtristan@fcc.gov     ------------------------------  % Date: Mon, 21 May 2001 12:38:43 -0400i5 From: "Fred Kleinsorge" <kleinsorge@star.zko.dec.com>   Subject: Re: vfork/exec question2 Message-ID: <TwbO6.561$fi2.13973@news.cpqcorp.net>  K Not that this will help you, but this is fixed in COE and will show up in aRK later release (persistent children).  You'll need to CREPRC to workl around 6 it -- which should be faster than a vfork/exec anyway.  D Paul Dembry wrote in message <9e47rj$ijn@dispatch.concentric.net>...I >I am modifying our old server architecture to use vfork/exec to start upvJ >proxy servers.  The old method was that the listener became the proxy butK >just before it did that, it did a $CREPRC of a new listener.  Crude but itrD >worked ok for many years.  Now that our servers get many connectionB >requests/second, this is no longer acceptable because the $creprc
 turnaroundK >time is too slow.  I modified this to be like our Unix version where therenH >is only one listener who just forks/execs proxys.  This all works greatL >except for one tiny flaw.  If the parent process dies (the one that did theE >vfork/execs), all the vfork'd processes die.  Is this an unavoidable L >consequence of the vfork() implementation or is there some way around this?F >The child processes all set SIGHUP to ignore but this does not make a >difference. >   >This is all on OpenVMS 7.2 AXP. >Thanks, >Paul  >  >i   ------------------------------  + Date: Mon, 21 May 2001 09:12:36 +0100 (CET)o' From: SWARS@mailer.MPI-STUTTGART.MPG.DEc8 Subject: VMS 7.3 kit but where is the new Netscape 6.0 ?< Message-ID: <01K3TJKQHWJM8X383W@MAILER.MPI-STUTTGART.MPG.DE>   hi all,yC today i get the new VMS 7.3 kit but where is the new Netscape 6.0 ?  is it still mozilla ?h thanks h.swars   ------------------------------    Date: 21 May 2001 11:24:32 +0200* From: eplan@kapsch.net (Peter LANGSTOEGER)< Subject: Re: VMS 7.3 kit but where is the new Netscape 6.0 ?* Message-ID: <3b08ded0$1@news.kapsch.co.at>  f In article <01K3TJKQHWJM8X383W@MAILER.MPI-STUTTGART.MPG.DE>, SWARS@mailer.MPI-STUTTGART.MPG.DE writes:D >today i get the new VMS 7.3 kit but where is the new Netscape 6.0 ? >is it still mozilla ?  N There is no NETSCAPE V6 as NETSCAPE V6 is much less then beta quality softwareI and is therefore unsupported by most webservers/designers/webapplicationsh( (eg. no autoproxy support included, ...)  L MOZILLA is the source project which should sometimes lead to a new NETSCAPE.  F MOZILLA is currently at 0.9 (0.9.1 coming soon) and begins to become a: usable browser. I'd call it already beta quality software.  H MOZILLA 0.9 is available for OpenVMS, but doesn't run on VAX and doesn't include JAVA support !  K So, stay with NETSCAPE V3.03 and wait for the next JAVA version for OpenVMStK and then wait for the next MOZILLA version, use it, then wait for the finaluJ MOZILLA version, then wait for the next NETSCAPE version and then wait for> the existance of NETSCAPE V? for OpenVMS (sometime next year).   -- t< Peter "EPLAN" LANGSTOEGER           Tel.    +43 1 81111-2651; Network and OpenVMS system manager  Fax.    +43 1 81111-888 < <<< KAPSCH AG  Wagenseilgasse 1     E-mail  eplan@kapsch.netH A-1121 VIENNA  AUSTRIA              "I'm not a pessimist, I'm a realist"   ------------------------------  % Date: Mon, 21 May 2001 08:08:35 -0600w4 From: "Michael D. Ober" <mdo.@.wakeassoc.com.nospam>. Subject: VMS BASIC and IP Performance Question/ Message-ID: <Dj9O6.86$6x.70698@news.uswest.net>c  K Which of the two scenerios below will provide better performance on a AlphanI Server running OpenVMS 7.2-1 with the DEC TCP/IP package?  Both sceneriosu> are written in VMS Basic and all IP writes are via QIOW calls.  9 1.  Build a large string and then send it all at once; ora! 2.  Send multiple smaller stringss  J The question is which is more efficient, BASIC's string garbage collectionL (along with judicious use of the LEN() function to ensure the string doesn't= exceed 32K), or the QIOW calls to send over an IP connection.f   -- Thanks,r
 Mike Ober.   ------------------------------  % Date: Mon, 21 May 2001 11:04:21 -0400b( From: Hamlyn Mootoo <univms@bigfoot.com>2 Subject: Re: VMS BASIC and IP Performance Question+ Message-ID: <3B092E75.F18BC3B0@bigfoot.com>   P As long as the size of each of the "smaller strings" you are sending is equal toP the maximum transfer unit (MTU) size of the interface over which you are sendingP them, and assuming a very good network reliability, then the "efficiency" shouldI be identical.  If the "smaller strings" are less than the MTU, then lowernN efficiency results, as a consequence of more overhead-to-data ratio.  This allM assumes that you are using TCP for the transport protocol.  If UDP is used, IIP believe the same should still hold true, although the overhead cost of sending aD datagram containing data lower than the mtu of the interface is lessM penalizing.  In a "noisy" network, however, using smaller strings (<mtu) witheL UDP should be more efficient, due to the fact that retransmission is quicker) because there is less data to retransmit.    Hamlyn   "Michael D. Ober" wrote:  M > Which of the two scenerios below will provide better performance on a AlphauK > Server running OpenVMS 7.2-1 with the DEC TCP/IP package?  Both sceneriosT@ > are written in VMS Basic and all IP writes are via QIOW calls. >s; > 1.  Build a large string and then send it all at once; orr# > 2.  Send multiple smaller stringsr >XL > The question is which is more efficient, BASIC's string garbage collectionN > (along with judicious use of the LEN() function to ensure the string doesn't? > exceed 32K), or the QIOW calls to send over an IP connection./ >w > --	 > Thanks,n > Mike Ober.   ------------------------------  % Date: Mon, 21 May 2001 08:10:16 -0700"+ From: "xenman" <xenman@sprynet.nospaam.com>o2 Subject: Re: VMS BASIC and IP Performance Question2 Message-ID: <9ebbdg$r7u$1@slb7.atl.mindspring.net>  6 With respect to BASIC, the most efficient way to build8 a large string from lots of smaller pieces of data would probably be something like:   #     MAP (MYDATA) STRING BIG = 32767      DECLARE STRING SHORT!     DECLARE LONG POINTER, COUNTERm     :u     :R%     MID$(BIG,POINTER,COUNTER) = SHORTD     :.: Where POINTER and COUNTER indicate where in the big string7 you want to place the shorter data.  The key here is to " avoid using large dynamic strings.  ) I don't have an answer for the QIOW part.l    = Michael D. Ober <mdo.@.wakeassoc.com.nospam> wrote in messagea) news:Dj9O6.86$6x.70698@news.uswest.net...+G > Which of the two scenerios below will provide better performance on a+ AlphacK > Server running OpenVMS 7.2-1 with the DEC TCP/IP package?  Both sceneriosf@ > are written in VMS Basic and all IP writes are via QIOW calls. >s; > 1.  Build a large string and then send it all at once; ore# > 2.  Send multiple smaller strings  >PL > The question is which is more efficient, BASIC's string garbage collectionF > (along with judicious use of the LEN() function to ensure the string doesn'te? > exceed 32K), or the QIOW calls to send over an IP connection.  >u > --	 > Thanks,i > Mike Ober. >a >o >e   ------------------------------  % Date: Mon, 21 May 2001 10:47:43 -0700 ! From: Shane.F.Smith@Healthnet.com=& Subject: Re: VMS doc site master indexD Message-ID: <OF14406641.CAFF90FC-ON88256A53.0061BAA0@foundation.com>   Consistancy.   Shane!          G Didier Morandi <Didier.Morandi@gmx.ch.nospam> on 05/19/2001 02:04:45 PM=  ? Please respond to Didier Morandi <Didier.Morandi@gmx.ch.nospam>    To:   Info-VAX@Mvb.Saic.ComT cc:m  ' Subject:  Re: VMS doc site master index(     James Gessling wrote:: >aH > So  who was the genius that decided the VMS master index should be pdfG > format and not also html like most everything else?  It would be MUCH, more > usefulA > to have it indexed similar to the indexes in the other manuals.  >l > Jim   G The pdf file is not protected, character search is allowed and text and= images cut/paste too.    What do you want more?   (just curious) D.   ------------------------------  % Date: Mon, 21 May 2001 12:40:35 -0400n5 From: "Fred Kleinsorge" <kleinsorge@star.zko.dec.com>iN Subject: Re: VMS Engineering and fun/unusual hardware, was: Re: Multimedia Doc2 Message-ID: <DybO6.562$fi2.14054@news.cpqcorp.net>  ( Blame it on the USB power budget design.  % Robert Deininger wrote in message ... E >In article <9zcN6.522$fi2.12681@news.cpqcorp.net>, "Fred Kleinsorge"-% ><kleinsorge@star.zko.dec.com> wrote:2 >: >-K >> One connector.  Daisy chain any number of useful desktop devices off it.uK >> Mouse, KB, printer, scanner, fax, modem, whatever.  You don't need to by  a7G >> 2nd parrallel port to plug in that second printer.  You don't need an modemoG >> taking up a PCI slot, or worse - hardwired into the system making it1 >> obsolete in 6 months. >tG >Only problem I've seen with doing this is that very few devices have a-K >goes-in and a goes-out connector.  (Pardon the technical jargon. :-)  MostoJ >only have a goes-in, so you can't daisy chain.  The industry seems intent= >on forcing us to buy as many $40 USB hubs as possible.  Grr.  >  >--e >Robert Deiningere >rdeininger@mindspring.com   ------------------------------  % Date: Mon, 21 May 2001 13:27:15 +0200o= From: Arne =?iso-8859-1?Q?Vajh=F8j?= <arne.vajhoej@gtech.com> - Subject: Re: vms time -> unix time conversion ) Message-ID: <3B08FB93.8888C40C@gtech.com>S   Adam Maulis wrote:k > In article <3B0696E0.B7FAFE7B@gtech.com>, Arne =?iso-8859-1?Q?Vajh=F8j?= <arne.vajhoej@gtech.com> writes:  > 7 > [...skip an VMStime -> UNIXtime converter example...]: > F > > Considering that you are already using many VMS specific features,. > > then decc$fix_time may have been simpler ! >  > You are absolutly right! >  > But... > 5 > The decc$fix_time does not avaiable every platform;g; > My solution (VMStime-0x7C95674BEB4000)/10000000 - utc_tdfhC > is avaiable every platform that can do 64 bit integer arithmetic.n   ????  D decc$fix_time (or its predecessor shell$fix_time) has been available+ on all VMS versions since mid/late 1980's !a   Arne   ------------------------------    Date: 21 May 2001 10:47:57 -0500- From: koehler@encompasserve.org (Bob Koehler)H/ Subject: Re: VXT2000 hardware/firmware questionc3 Message-ID: <l+FAE$sI2yWo@eisner.encompasserve.org>   \ In article <rYjWH544OnPC@ludens>, holitska_a@ludens.elte.hu (Holi - Holitska Andrs) writes:  H >> I don't know what's in my VXT, but DEC did produce a line a VAX chips1 >> optimized for VAXeln and those won't boot VMS.  > G > :[ Shouldn't those too be able to run READ_ADDR.SYS? It's supposed tohE > be able to tell you, that the processor you are trying to run it on C > is an unkown/usupported processor. (Found the necessary string in F > READ_ADDR.SYS, so I guess it has some minor processor type detecting > capabilities ;]) >   F I don't know what the minimal requirements are for READ_ADDR.SYS.  TheG chips I had in mind had only two modes (VMS uses 4) and IIRC no addresso) translation hardware (no virtual memory).e  F ----------------------------------------------------------------------? Bob Koehler                     | Computer Sciences Corporatione= NASA GSFC Flight Software       | Federal Sector, Civil GroupoE                                 | please remove ".aspm" when replying    ------------------------------  % Date: Mon, 21 May 2001 13:12:59 +0100s- From: Tim Llewellyn <tim.llewellyn@bbc.co.uk> ) Subject: Re: What is "legacy free system"a) Message-ID: <3B09064B.CDBAE997@bbc.co.uk>n  " Shane.F.Smith@Healthnet.com wrote:  M > That begs an interesting question. Are VMS layout keyboards still availablehK > new? I'm stockpiling LK450-AA's - the PC guys here are kind enough to useSF > my desk as a "dumpster" occasionally when they throw an old one out. >   H I got a VMS PS2 layout  keyboard (LK461-A2) with the DS10 I am currently configuring.     regards1  --06 Tim Llewellyn, OpenVMS Infrastructure, Remarcs Project0 MedAS at the BBC, Whiteladies Road, Bristol, UK.A Email tim.llewellyn@bbc.co.uk. Home tim.llewellyn@cableinet.co.uky  A I speak for myself only and my views in no way represent those of  MedAS or the BBC.u   ------------------------------  , Date: Mon, 21 May 2001 17:17:05 +0200 (CEST): From: "Gotfryd Smolik, VMS lists" <gotfryd@stanpol.com.pl>+ Subject: Re: [Q] DCL minute of the week-endoI Message-ID: <Pine.LNX.4.21.0105211713350.1828-100000@irys.stanpol.com.pl>-  2 On 19 May 2001 Didier.Morandi@gmx.ch.nospam wrote:   >+Look:, >+= >+$ help/libr=sys$login:pcsi.hlb/nopage/noins/nopromp kit_filj >+
 >+Kit_file [...]e> >+$ help/libr=sys$login:pcsi.hlb/nopage/noins/nopromp kit_file >+
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