1 INFO-VAX	Mon, 28 May 2001	Volume 2001 : Issue 294       Contents:: %SYSTEM-I-GSDFULL, global section descriptor table is full$ RE: HSDSA Scrip in a Batch Procedure Re: Internals manuals ) IRCD DECC$GLOG_2 multiply defined problem  Re: IRCD for VMS Re: IRCD for VMS Re: IRCD for VMS Re: IRCD for VMS Re: IRCD for VMS Re: IRCD for VMS Re: IRCD for VMS Re: JRE.DMP  Re: JRE.DMP  Re: JRE.DMP  Re: JRE.DMP  Re: JRE.DMP ( Re: More Compaq blunders I am sad to day Re: Oracle 8.1.6 SQLLIB.OLB D Re: Presentation Collateral From VMS Technical Update Days in LondonD Re: Presentation Collateral From VMS Technical Update Days in LondonD Re: Presentation Collateral From VMS Technical Update Days in LondonD Re: Presentation Collateral From VMS Technical Update Days in London Reading RMS index file on PC  Re: Reading RMS index file on PC+ Re: Reinstalling Backup patch on 7.2 system + Re: Reinstalling Backup patch on 7.2 system : Re: Unable to Telnet & Rlogin from Solaris/HPUX to OpenVMS, Re: VMS Home Automation x MS Home Automation, Re: VMS Home Automation x MS Home Automation, Re: VMS Home Automation x MS Home Automation& [ANN] Data Plotting Library DISLIN 7.5, [JPEG-2000] Jasper 1.200 codec for VMS Alpha  F ----------------------------------------------------------------------  % Date: Mon, 28 May 2001 11:54:18 -0400 - From: "Peter Weaver" <peter.weaver@stelco.ca> C Subject: %SYSTEM-I-GSDFULL, global section descriptor table is full 4 Message-ID: <bxuQ6.242058$Z2.2710668@nnrp1.uunet.ca>  B I am really trying to keep an open mind while I am testing out the/ latest version of WEBES (Compaq Analyze) but...   A I received the error %SYSTEM-I-GSDFULL, global section descriptor  table is full.  C HELP/MESSAGE tells me "User Action:  Wait and retry the request. If F the failure persists, notify the system manager." Every time I pick upD the phone and phone myself I get voice mail. I leave a message, hangC up the phone, see the message light flash, retrieve the message and = refuse to return the call since I don't know what to do... :)     I could not find GSDFULL in DSN.  F My SYSGEN parameter GBLSECTIONS is 970 and "INSTALL> lis/glo/sum" show= 791 global sections used so I do not think that is a problem.   D AXP OpenVMS V7.2-1, WEBES V4.0 with all required patches for it. The> command I get the error with is "@svctools_home:[bin]ccat gui"  . Can anyone tell me how to fix a GSDFULL error?   ------------------------------  % Date: Mon, 28 May 2001 11:28:00 -0500 0 From: arturo saavedra <arturo.saavedra@wcom.com>- Subject: RE: HSDSA Scrip in a Batch Procedure C Message-ID: <MOEAJKGGEIMGCCPEPJBHCENEEFAA.arturo.saavedra@wcom.com>   $ Thank you!.. that worked.. order was   script log file
 controller none         -----Original Message-----6 From: David J. Dachtera [mailto:djesys.nospam@fsi.net]" Sent: Sunday, May 27, 2001 6:08 PM To: Info-VAX@Mvb.Saic.Com - Subject: Re: HSDSA Scrip in a Batch Procedure      arturo saavedra wrote: > 
 > Hello... > L > Would anybody have an example of a batch procedure running the HSDSA-SCRIPJ > in order to obtain information from a set of controllers?  I usually runH > this interactively, but would like to automate this procedure in batch job.  = Supply the responses to HSDSA-SCRIPT's prompts as image data:    $ RUN ddcu:<dir>HSDSA-SCRIPT target_node  script_filespec  log_filespec NONE $ EOD   F The order of responses may be different from I listed here. Don't haveH the program or the readme handy. The "$ EOD" is actually superfluous - IE just include it for my own info., usually. HSDSA-SCRIPT is written in G Pascal by a non-VMS programmer - it doesn't understand what EOF on it's 6 primary input stream (SYS$INPUT) should mean (*SIGH*).   -- David J. Dachtera  dba DJE Systems  http://www.djesys.com/  : Unofficial Affordable OpenVMS Home Page and Message Board: http://www.djesys.com/vms/soho/   F This *IS* an OpenVMS-related newsgroup. So, a certain bias in postings is to be expected.  @ Feel free to exercise your rights of free speech and expression.  F However, attacks against individual posters, or groups of posters, are strongly discouraged.    ------------------------------  % Date: Mon, 28 May 2001 08:23:26 -0300 ) From: fabio_compaq@ep-bc.petrobras.com.br  Subject: Re: Internals manualsL Message-ID: <OF5375C0E4.B0D5D1E9-ON03256A5A.0039191E@ep-bc.petrobras.com.br>  J Compaq should  put all these manuals (OpenVMS/Alpha)  in the www.ibook.com site or 0 at  www.bh.com   in pdf format for buy/download.   Regards    FC        < "antonio.carlini" <arcarlini@iee.org> em 26/05/2001 19:44:41  7 Favor responder a "antonio.carlini" <arcarlini@iee.org>              Info-VAX@Mvb.Saic.Com        Assunto: Re: Internals manuals    , I'm guessing he wanted the VMS Internals and Data Structures manuals.  , The last VAX set originally came out as five. volumes for V5.0 and were then updated to V5.2, and produced as a single hardback book (this was around 70-100 UKP IIRC).  % Or maybe he wanted the Alpha version?    Antonio         ! steven.reece@quintiles.com wrote:  >  > Certainly is.  > Part number QA-001AA-GZ.7.3 
 > Reference : ? http://www.openvms.compaq.com/doc/73final/6620/6620pro_009.html  > : > Last time I saw a price they were around 1100 pounds GB. > Steve. >  > Fabio asked: > >>>  > Just a question  ? > > > Is possible to buy the OpenVMS printed manuals from Compaq ? > <<<    --   --------------- - Antonio Carlini             arcarlini@iee.org    ------------------------------  # Date: Mon, 28 May 2001 12:54:03 GMT = From: system@SendSpamHere.ORG (Brian Schenkenberger, VAXman-) 2 Subject: IRCD DECC$GLOG_2 multiply defined problem0 Message-ID: <009FCADC.352D824A@SendSpamHere.ORG>  1 Problem is with the name of a routine in S_LOG.C.   = void log(...) is being confused with the DECC log() function.     
 I changed:  
 File: S_LOG.H    void log(...   to   void log_write(...    E Then, to not have to modify all of the rest of the sources, I editted  S_LOG.H    extern void log(...   
 now reads:   extern void log_write(...  #define log log_write     I I thought it a bit strange that IRCD should need to compute logarithms of 	 any base.        --O VAXman- OpenVMS APE certification number: AAA-0001     VAXman(at)TMESIS(dot)COM              O city, n., 1. a place where trees are cut down and streets are named after them.    ------------------------------  % Date: Mon, 28 May 2001 17:54:22 +0930 / From: Mark Daniel <mark.daniel@wasd.vsm.com.au>  Subject: Re: IRCD for VMS / Message-ID: <3B120B36.C9C21DD4@wasd.vsm.com.au>   F I'm reticent to chip in here, but I'm often taken aback by the brusqueG replies to well-meaning, though sometimes certainly naive postings.  It B strikes me that VMS cannot afford to alienate too many, especially? new-chums.  Older afficionados tend to have the salt-pot handy.   <   http://www.dictionary.com/cgi-bin/dict.pl?term=hubris&db=*   Carl Perkins wrote:  > \ > In article <3B117833.E3C91D19@infopuls.com>, Christof Brass <brass@infopuls.com> writes... > }Edward Brocklesby wrote:  > }>O > }> "Brian Schenkenberger, VAXman-" <system@SendSpamHere.ORG> wrote in message / > }> news:009FCA39.5527206C@SendSpamHere.ORG... P > }> > I applaud the efforts to port utilities to VMS, but many too many require > }> aP > }> > build on VMS and fail to cover the details necessary to build them.  WhatN > }> > happens then?  Bandwidth consumed with silly questions about how to get > }> theP > }> > package to compile/build successfully.  Of course, C is portable so there( > }> > shouldn't be any problems, right? > }>Q > }> I'm sorry, I won't post such things here in future.  I'm still new with VMS, O > }> and I'm not sure of all the portability problems.  If critisism is all I'm 
 > }> going3 > }> to be offered for my efforts, then .. *shrug*.  > }>B > }> If anyone else wants to help, feel free to mail my privately. > }> > }>     -larne- > } ) > }Not quite the "strongest" reaction ... ? > }VMS is the best OS, so you will get most out of what you are A > }doing alone from having the pleasure to do it on VMS. Don't be C > }afraid of the somewhat professional reactions in the NG! Instead = > }take any of the hints and recommendations and improve what A > }you're done. Others will be happy to use your work if they can B > }it use without having to fiddle around with compiler qualifiers
 > }a.s.o.. > @ > There was nothing professional about the reaction in question.? > A simple polite inquiry for the needed information would have $ > been the professional thing to do. > = > People here often say that VMS needs more software. Here we = > have someone who actually ported something to VMS. What was : > the resonse? The answer to that is that the response was< > impolite and just plain stupid, unless the goal was to try= > to insure that someone who actually ported something to VMS 9 > never does so again and spreads the word to anyone else < > interested in doing ports that they are unwanted - if that5 > was the goal then the response wasn't all that bad.  > 
 > --- Carl   ------------------------------  # Date: Mon, 28 May 2001 11:37:11 GMT = From: system@SendSpamHere.ORG (Brian Schenkenberger, VAXman-)  Subject: Re: IRCD for VMS 0 Message-ID: <009FCAD1.788AC577@SendSpamHere.ORG>  j In article <c5hQ6.605$Ix.5439@news11-gui.server.ntli.net>, "Edward Brocklesby" <ejb@leguin.org.uk> writes: > = >"David J. Dachtera" <djesys.nospam@fsi.net> wrote in message " >news:3B119806.39730AEF@fsi.net... >> We J >> would need to know the exact details of your build environment (OpenVMSJ >> version, VAX or Alpha, programming language and compiler version, etc.)J >> before would be able to duplicate your success in building the program, >> much less implementing it.  > G >Ok, well, I'll say as much as I can.  I'm testing it on an OpenVMS 7.2  >system D >running on an AlphaStation 500, DEC C V6.0-001, MultiNet V4.3(119).- >I'm using MMK to build it (unknown version).   3 OK.  FYI, DEC C V5.7 will not compile your package.    > 8 >A couple of things I'm currently having problems with - > K >    1) I can't seem to use pipe() to implement interprocess communications I >very well on VMS.  I think I should be looking at Mailboxs, but Compaq's I >documentation (including MACRO32 example code) is a little over my head. ; >(relevant code: [ircd-hybrid-7.src]s_serv.c fork_server().   I Would a C sourced example help with understanding the mailbox mechanisms? I I can't say that I can recommen any freeware example(s) off the top of my I head but there may be somebody here that can think of a package or two to 	 help you.     K >    2) Is there a way to set a process name? similar to run/process_name=,  >but using an RTL.H >    3) Simple DCL questions, is there a way to delete everything from a >certainL >line (specified by location of a string) of a file until the end? Something >like B >sed -e '/string/,$d' on Unix. Or else, can I "include" files in a >descrip.mms  ' $ EDIT/EDT/COMMAND=SYS$INPUT 'filename' $ ch;advssel"string"erdsrextexit  <cr> $   C CHange;ADVanceSearchandSELect"string"EndDeleteRangeSelectEXTendEXIT       6 >file? (The point of this is to implement mmk depend).  ) Using MMK, .INCLUDE seems to work for me.      K >    4) Another MMS/MMK things.. can i do "FOR"? I'd like something similar  >to... > 1 >for directory in [.src] [.tools] [.servlink]; do  >  cd $directory
 >  mmk all >done  >  >but for VMS  M Do it in a .COM file.  Use the lexical F$search to find the DESCRIP.MMS files N in your tree's subdirectories.  Save the current directory found with the lex-M ical F$environment("DEFAULT") and SET DEFAULT to the subdirectory and execute N MMK ALL.  Then SET DEFAULT back to your saved default and continue the search.  N If you know all of your source directories, you could also build a DESCRIP.MMSM that executes MMK in the appropriate subdirectories.  MMK will even allow you M to pass command line qualifiers to the embedded MMK commands.  I prefer to do  the latter.   M One other thing I'd like to see.  Many unix born packages seem to build their M objects, executables, etc. in the same directories as the sources.  With some M simple logical definitions and MMK, it's quite simple to have source and tar- M gets separated from each other.  I personally build products with a directory  hierarch which looks like:  
 [PRODUCT.]
          |          +[.VERSION]                    |                    +[.SRC]                    |                    +[.OBJ]                    |                    +[.LIS]                    |                    +[.MAP]                    |                    +[.EXE]  
 ... etc.    K I really hate to have to sift through source and built targets to find some K bug needing to be fixed.  It's also really easy to do a "clean" build when  : all of the targets are NOT a part of the source directory.    --O VAXman- OpenVMS APE certification number: AAA-0001     VAXman(at)TMESIS(dot)COM              O city, n., 1. a place where trees are cut down and streets are named after them.    ------------------------------  # Date: Mon, 28 May 2001 11:56:34 GMT = From: system@SendSpamHere.ORG (Brian Schenkenberger, VAXman-)  Subject: Re: IRCD for VMS 0 Message-ID: <009FCAD4.2DC6D066@SendSpamHere.ORG>  a In article <3B120B36.C9C21DD4@wasd.vsm.com.au>, Mark Daniel <mark.daniel@wasd.vsm.com.au> writes: G >I'm reticent to chip in here, but I'm often taken aback by the brusque H >replies to well-meaning, though sometimes certainly naive postings.  ItC >strikes me that VMS cannot afford to alienate too many, especially @ >new-chums.  Older afficionados tend to have the salt-pot handy. > = >  http://www.dictionary.com/cgi-bin/dict.pl?term=hubris&db=*   K I simply asked that brief explaination accompany a posting of some piece of J software ported from some non-VMS realm.  That is not hubris.  I, for one,K do not use PeeCee and Micro$oft products.  In fact, I had never touched one J until about two years ago when on-site at a customer, and then it was onlyK as a "terminal" to the VMS systems (running a terminal emulator that made a K real mockery of VT100 functionality).  Would posting that a PeeCee package  I of some name (any name) was ported to VMS help me know what function that  package serves?    BTW, I have a CF-602R. --O VAXman- OpenVMS APE certification number: AAA-0001     VAXman(at)TMESIS(dot)COM              O city, n., 1. a place where trees are cut down and streets are named after them.    ------------------------------  # Date: Mon, 28 May 2001 12:04:03 GMT % From: "P.Lj" <plj@byron.ext.telia.se>  Subject: Re: IRCD for VMS 2 Message-ID: <3B123EBC.DD3C053F@byron.ext.telia.se>   Hi,   0 We have had XIRC-client ported since 16-DEC-1999*  ftp://byron.ext.telia.se/vms/tdf/xicq.zip   and a short note here:*  ftp://byron.ext.telia.se/vms/tdf/xicq.txt      	 >>> ^P.Lj        Edward Brocklesby wrote:   > Hi,  > N > I have ported ircd-hybrid-7 to VMS.  If anyone wants a copy, it can be found > atB > ftp://ftp.leguin.org.uk/pub/vms/ircd-hybrid-7-cvs-20010526_3.zip > N > after unzipping it, [.ircd-hybrid-7]readme.vms describes what has to be done > toN > compile it, and what known issues are.  I've tested it on OpenVMS 7.2/Alpha,= > reports of success/failure on other system would be useful.  > K > (on my system, compile in [.src] fails with DECC$GLOG_2 multiply defined,  > but N > the generated ircd.exe still works.  if this happens to you, just run mmk in
 > [.tools] > manually). > 
 >     -larne-    ------------------------------  % Date: Mon, 28 May 2001 13:57:47 +0100 % From: Alan Greig <a.greig@virgin.net>  Subject: Re: IRCD for VMS 8 Message-ID: <7hi4htoeuldnbaikk697lscp5fecv6dqf9@4ax.com>  @ On Mon, 28 May 2001 11:56:34 GMT, system@SendSpamHere.ORG (Brian Schenkenberger, VAXman-) wrote:     L >I simply asked that brief explaination accompany a posting of some piece ofK >software ported from some non-VMS realm.  That is not hubris.  I, for one, L >do not use PeeCee and Micro$oft products.  In fact, I had never touched oneK >until about two years ago when on-site at a customer, and then it was only L >as a "terminal" to the VMS systems (running a terminal emulator that made aL >real mockery of VT100 functionality).  Would posting that a PeeCee package   @ Sounds like HypterTerm to me which is the default VT100 emulator= provided with all versions of Windows. It has the worst VT100n emulation I have ever seen.n  A Worse Microsoft has just admitted it has a gigantic security holer0 allowing anyone to take control of your machine.   From The Register:1 http://www.theregister.co.uk/content/4/19234.htmlMA "A maliciously-crafted Telnet URL can be used to trigger a buffereE overrun, which in turn would enable an attacker to run arbitrary codesD on a machine with the victim's level of permission. A malicious HTML? page exploiting the hole could easily be circulated via e-mail"   s   -- Alan   ------------------------------  % Date: Mon, 28 May 2001 10:58:09 -0300a) From: fabio_compaq@ep-bc.petrobras.com.br  Subject: Re: IRCD for VMSCL Message-ID: <OF91E7B5C6.2B41C872-ON03256A5A.004C96C0@ep-bc.petrobras.com.br>  D Just buy trustable products/emulators from Attachmate, WRQ, etc ....A And dont use "free software"  -> Open Systems, Closed Minds ! ! !H   Regardsi   FC            6 Alan Greig <a.greig@virgin.net> em 28/05/2001 09:57:47  1 Favor responder a Alan Greig <a.greig@virgin.net>L             Info-VAX@Mvb.Saic.Comd       Assunto: Re: IRCD for VMS-    @ On Mon, 28 May 2001 11:56:34 GMT, system@SendSpamHere.ORG (Brian Schenkenberger, VAXman-) wrote:m    I >I simply asked that brief explaination accompany a posting of some pieces ofK >software ported from some non-VMS realm.  That is not hubris.  I, for one,tH >do not use PeeCee and Micro$oft products.  In fact, I had never touched oneeK >until about two years ago when on-site at a customer, and then it was onlyIJ >as a "terminal" to the VMS systems (running a terminal emulator that made aUK >real mockery of VT100 functionality).  Would posting that a PeeCee packagee  @ Sounds like HypterTerm to me which is the default VT100 emulator= provided with all versions of Windows. It has the worst VT100  emulation I have ever seen.   A Worse Microsoft has just admitted it has a gigantic security holeo0 allowing anyone to take control of your machine.   From The Register:1 http://www.theregister.co.uk/content/4/19234.html9A "A maliciously-crafted Telnet URL can be used to trigger a buffer E overrun, which in turn would enable an attacker to run arbitrary codenD on a machine with the victim's level of permission. A malicious HTML? page exploiting the hole could easily be circulated via e-mail"-     -- Alan   ------------------------------  % Date: Mon, 28 May 2001 10:07:02 -0500o1 From: "David J. Dachtera" <djesys.nospam@fsi.net>r Subject: Re: IRCD for VMSM' Message-ID: <3B126996.7C2B0177@fsi.net>m  
 "P.Lj" wrote:. >  > Hi,d > 2 > We have had XIRC-client ported since 16-DEC-1999, >  ftp://byron.ext.telia.se/vms/tdf/xicq.zip >  > and a short note here:, >  ftp://byron.ext.telia.se/vms/tdf/xicq.txt  H If I understand this correctly, there exists a port of an ICQ client for OpenVMS + DECwindows(+MOTIF)?    -- l David J. Dachteran dba DJE Systemsm http://www.djesys.com/  : Unofficial Affordable OpenVMS Home Page and Message Board: http://www.djesys.com/vms/soho/y  F This *IS* an OpenVMS-related newsgroup. So, a certain bias in postings is to be expected.  @ Feel free to exercise your rights of free speech and expression.  F However, attacks against individual posters, or groups of posters, are strongly discouraged.r   ------------------------------  # Date: Mon, 28 May 2001 07:59:58 GMTt1 From: "Kari Keronen" <kari.keronen@radiolinja.fi>s Subject: Re: JRE.DMP2 Message-ID: <01c0e74c$25ad77b0$120ba8c0@rlhkikker>  4 Process dump perhaps ? Did you try ANALYZE/PROCESS ?K Only thing that that comes to my mind from JRE is Java Runtime Environment. " Is that installed on your system ?   -Kari-  0 paddy.o'brien@zzz.tg.nsw.gov.au wrote in article, <01K43K5JZNOY000PDO@tgmail.tg.nsw.gov.au>...J > I have just found the following file in SYS0.SYSEXE on my ES40 with VMS  > 7.2: > 6 > JRE.DMP;1                     File ID:  (15497,41,0)/ > Size:       362628/362628     Owner:    [1,1]a$ > Created:   24-MAY-2001 13:29:59.79( > Revised:   24-MAY-2001 13:31:21.37 (1) > Expires:   <None specified>-! > Backup:    <No backup recorded>: > Effective: <None specified>q > Recording: <None specified>c  > File organization:  Sequential > Shelved state:      Online" > Caching attribute:  WritethroughK > File attributes:    Allocation: 362628, Extend: 0, Global buffer count: 0c& >                     No version limitG > Record format:      Variable length, maximum 0 bytes, longest 0 bytesr > Record attributes:  None > RMS attributes:     None > Journaling enabled: None? > File protection:    System:RWED, Owner:RWED, Group:RE, World:R > Access Cntrl List:  None > Client attributes:  None > ( > Total of 1 file, 362628/362628 blocks. >  > H > I have no idea what I was doing at that time, but the machine was not K > re-booted that day -- unlikely to be anything of significance, excepting  < > that I did have to change my IP address sometime that day. > K > The only thing I could think to try to read this with was anal/crash, butA   > it is not a system dump file.p > K > Does anyone know where this came from, how to read it and whether I need a > it?c >  > TIA  >  > Regards, Paddy >  > Paddy O'Brien, > Transmission Development,e > TransGrid, > PO Box A1000, Sydney South,  > NSW 2000, Australiao >  > Tel:   +61 2 9284-3063 > Fax:   +61 2 9284-3050( > Email: paddy.o'brien@zzz.tg.nsw.gov.au > H > Either "\'" or "\s" (to escape the apostrophe) seems to work for most 	 > people,r= > but that little whizz-bang apostrophe gives me little spam._ >  >    ------------------------------  % Date: Mon, 28 May 2001 13:41:33 +0530b, From: Shiv <Sivakumar.Thangavelu@oracle.com> Subject: Re: JRE.DMP* Message-ID: <3B120835.998DA264@oracle.com>   Paddy,  I Could be a Java Runtime dump. Just see if you were running any Java basednK appln., that was abruptly stopped or that which crashed during that time...  _x Shiv    & paddy.o'brien@zzz.tg.nsw.gov.au wrote:  I > I have just found the following file in SYS0.SYSEXE on my ES40 with VMSD > 7.2: >d6 > JRE.DMP;1                     File ID:  (15497,41,0)/ > Size:       362628/362628     Owner:    [1,1]V$ > Created:   24-MAY-2001 13:29:59.79( > Revised:   24-MAY-2001 13:31:21.37 (1) > Expires:   <None specified>e! > Backup:    <No backup recorded>- > Effective: <None specified>1 > Recording: <None specified>n  > File organization:  Sequential > Shelved state:      Online" > Caching attribute:  WritethroughK > File attributes:    Allocation: 362628, Extend: 0, Global buffer count: 0e& >                     No version limitG > Record format:      Variable length, maximum 0 bytes, longest 0 bytesf > Record attributes:  None > RMS attributes:     None > Journaling enabled: None? > File protection:    System:RWED, Owner:RWED, Group:RE, World:? > Access Cntrl List:  None > Client attributes:  None ><( > Total of 1 file, 362628/362628 blocks. >sG > I have no idea what I was doing at that time, but the machine was not>J > re-booted that day -- unlikely to be anything of significance, excepting< > that I did have to change my IP address sometime that day. >aK > The only thing I could think to try to read this with was anal/crash, but  > it is not a system dump file.e >hJ > Does anyone know where this came from, how to read it and whether I need > it?w >  > TIAu >i > Regards, Paddy >  > Paddy O'Brien, > Transmission Development,s > TransGrid, > PO Box A1000, Sydney South,  > NSW 2000, Australiar >e > Tel:   +61 2 9284-3063 > Fax:   +61 2 9284-3050( > Email: paddy.o'brien@zzz.tg.nsw.gov.au >SG > Either "\'" or "\s" (to escape the apostrophe) seems to work for mosti	 > people, = > but that little whizz-bang apostrophe gives me little spam.    -- ---*---                        ~\\\~e                      (`O-O')+     _________.oOo_____( ^ )____oOo.________e,     \                                      \-      \          Sivakumar Thangavelu        \ .       \    (Platform Technologies Group)     \.       |--------------------------------------|.       |      Oracle Corporation, (IDC)       |.       |       Oracle Technology Park         |.       |       #3, Bannerghatta Road          |.       |      Bangalore-560029, India         |.       |--------------------------------------|.      /  Phone: +91 (80) 552 8335 x 1056      /-     /Email: Sivakumar.Thangavelu@oracle.com /p,    /____________.oooO___Oooo.______________/                 (   )   (   )                   \ (     ) /                   \_)   (_/r   ------------------------------  % Date: Mon, 28 May 2001 19:44:01 +0010W% From: paddy.o'brien@zzz.tg.nsw.gov.aut Subject: Re: JRE.DMP5 Message-ID: <01K43XQ7ZNPE000PWZ@tgmail.tg.nsw.gov.au>a  ( Thanks for your comments, Kari and Shiv.  G I also had email off-line which suggested the Java Runtime Environment.d  P Kari, I tried to run anal/process but that access violated.  Hmm, should report S this.  [Hoff will you take a report, it often gets a bit painful going through CSC - on software issues.]  T I did a dump on the first several blocks of the file, and yes it looks very much as C you people suggested.  It has a lot of plain text relating to Java.S  P I have never intentionally installed Java on this system (it has been suggested R that some other process might have done it "behind my back").  I have none of the , logicals or symbols set up as in JAVA$SETUP.  S I am now curious as to what sparked this and would like to read at least some part m$ of this file (other than via $dump).  0 It did not crash my system (ES40 with OVMS 7.2).  O This is now bed/alcohol time in Australia, but tomorrow I'll see if I can read  S through the Java stuff and find any of the many .EXE's which might be able to read aQ this dump.  It is also slightly (about 40,000 blocks in 320,000 on a 1Gb memory)   bigger than my SYSDUMP.DMP.   S I (and other colleagues) do run Netscape from unpriviliged accounts on this system  K (NETMBX and TMPMBX only) and regularly get these Java error pop-up windows.a  8 Again thanks to responders and TIA for any further help.   Regards, Paddy   Paddy O'Brien, Transmission Development,x
 TransGrid, PO Box A1000, Sydney South,  NSW 2000, Australiae   Tel:   +61 2 9284-3063 Fax:   +61 2 9284-3050& Email: paddy.o'brien@zzz.tg.nsw.gov.au  M Either "\'" or "\s" (to escape the apostrophe) seems to work for most people, ; but that little whizz-bang apostrophe gives me little spam.    ------------------------------  % Date: Mon, 28 May 2001 10:59:43 +0100 % From: Alan Greig <a.greig@virgin.net>t Subject: Re: JRE.DMP8 Message-ID: <m884htk2hijcc7ifqk928cl0udv03lnhgo@4ax.com>  C On Mon, 28 May 2001 13:14:45 +0010, paddy.o'brien@zzz.tg.nsw.gov.au  wrote:  I >I have just found the following file in SYS0.SYSEXE on my ES40 with VMS S >7.2:g >l5 >JRE.DMP;1                     File ID:  (15497,41,0)c  / JAVA  Runtime Engine dump file? Just a guess...D  . >Size:       362628/362628     Owner:    [1,1]# >Created:   24-MAY-2001 13:29:59.79h' >Revised:   24-MAY-2001 13:31:21.37 (1)n >Expires:   <None specified>  >Backup:    <No backup recorded> >Effective: <None specified> >Recording: <None specified> >File organization:  Sequentialn >Shelved state:      Onlinen! >Caching attribute:  WritethroughoJ >File attributes:    Allocation: 362628, Extend: 0, Global buffer count: 0% >                    No version limitiF >Record format:      Variable length, maximum 0 bytes, longest 0 bytes >Record attributes:  Nonet >RMS attributes:     Nonew >Journaling enabled: Nonen> >File protection:    System:RWED, Owner:RWED, Group:RE, World: >Access Cntrl List:  NoneT >Client attributes:  None  > ' >Total of 1 file, 362628/362628 blocks.f >u >oG >I have no idea what I was doing at that time, but the machine was not nJ >re-booted that day -- unlikely to be anything of significance, excepting ; >that I did have to change my IP address sometime that day.  >hK >The only thing I could think to try to read this with was anal/crash, but t >it is not a system dump file. >sJ >Does anyone know where this came from, how to read it and whether I need  >it? >s >TIA >  >Regards, Paddy  >h >Paddy O'Brien,r >Transmission Development, >TransGrid,r >PO Box A1000, Sydney South, i >NSW 2000, Australia >l >Tel:   +61 2 9284-3063  >Fax:   +61 2 9284-3050E' >Email: paddy.o'brien@zzz.tg.nsw.gov.au  > G >Either "\'" or "\s" (to escape the apostrophe) seems to work for most   >people,< >but that little whizz-bang apostrophe gives me little spam.   -- Alan   ------------------------------  % Date: Mon, 28 May 2001 12:12:04 -0400l- From: "Peter Weaver" <peter.weaver@stelco.ca>t Subject: Re: JRE.DMP4 Message-ID: <ONuQ6.242078$Z2.2710925@nnrp1.uunet.ca>  2 <paddy.o'brien@zzz.tg.nsw.gov.au> wrote in message/ news:01K43XQ7ZNPE000PWZ@tgmail.tg.nsw.gov.au...p >...B > I have never intentionally installed Java on this system (it has been suggestedB > that some other process might have done it "behind my back").  I have none of the. > logicals or symbols set up as in JAVA$SETUP. >...  C You mentioned that it was an ES40 before. Check and see if you have-D WEBES installed (type CA at the command prompt, if the machine seemsB to hang for a long time them starts spitting out entries from yourF error log or random entries from CA's example error logs then you haveD been infected with CA) (cancel that last line, I did promise to keepC an open mind while looking at CA V4.0, but it is soooooo hard to doV0 when the previous versions were all garbage....)  E WEBES, or any of the WEBES sub-products (I believe) will install JRE.    ------------------------------  % Date: Mon, 28 May 2001 14:39:07 +0100k% From: Alan Greig <a.greig@virgin.net>p1 Subject: Re: More Compaq blunders I am sad to day 8 Message-ID: <9nj4htoqbufe7u7c2fd1i9vpr8ro538ldk@4ax.com>  C On Fri, 25 May 2001 14:45:33 +0100, Alan Greig <a.greig@virgin.net>n wrote:    D >On top of this I have found out why I have not received our VMS 7.3D >kits. Seems that  the licenses correctly are on support but the VMSF >SUDS line item "got lost" during the VAX to Alpha switch. I have beenF >waiting for a quote to resolve this for several days but am told thatD >"the VMS Software Update Distribution Service has vanished from theD >Compaq UK price list" . I am told someone is investigating and willE >get back to me. Highly re-assuring that Compaq can't sell a VMS SUDS  >subscription at the moment.  D Can someone possibly tell me the current part number and descriptionB of a service contract which should get me VMS releases as and whenB they come out. I am forced by Compaq to deal with a third party inB negotiating service contracts and I don't know who to blame at theB moment. The third party (CSF) tell me that Compaq are to blame and# Compaq have so far told me nothing.   C I had previously noticed that QA-YL48A-H8 (our VAX binaries and doc-F service) had not been replaced with QA-5G98A-H8 (equivalent Alpha) butC had been assured that our SWSC and LIC class VMS subscriptions wereiE all that was needed to receive the operating system updates. Now I amoE told I need another part number which doesn't exist according to CSF..  D I've never given too much attention to these individual items beforeE as they were always correctly included when we asked for the service.yE Of course prior to last year I could go direct to DEC/Compaq. Now I'meE forced to go via CSF (who according to Compaq have been subcontracted F to handle all Scottish support contracts) and find it difficult to get what I want.  F So far during the switch of supported systems from VAX to Alpha I haveC lost DSN (incorrectly canceled but now fixed), the layered products5E distribution service (in the process of being fixed) and it seems theeB VMS OS distribution service (unfixable currently I am told...). An? attempt was also made to switch the invoicing from quarterly to 0 annually in advance without agreement or notice.  F The new Compaq contracts no longer give the meaning of SUDS, HMSB, LICF and SWSC even though they are plastered all over the contract. The old
 DEC ones did.M  @ So far the only new distribution that has managed to reach me is Advanced Server 7.3.   Alan -- Alan   ------------------------------  # Date: Mon, 28 May 2001 15:09:12 GMT ( From: Jay Olson <jjo@triton.com.no.spam>$ Subject: Re: Oracle 8.1.6 SQLLIB.OLB1 Message-ID: <3B12692D.7080100@triton.com.no.spam>    Hal Kuff wrote:s  L >    I'm looking for sqllib.olb for oracle 8.1.6 ... the installer built theK > version for 7.3.4 we have running but despite building all 14 products onlG > the 8.1.6 install we don't seem to wind up with an sqllib.olb libraryi: > ..... anyone know how the installer would build this...?  G It is now called sqllib8.olb. Some of the preprocessor linking command eH files (i.e. LNPROCXX.COM) refer to the old name. I just edited them and C everything seems to work OK. I don't know what the official Oracle   recommendation is, though.  ( 	- Jay Olson (jjo "at" triton "dot" com) 	Triton Software Group LLC   ------------------------------  % Date: Mon, 28 May 2001 10:34:55 +0100b% From: Alan Greig <a.greig@virgin.net>WM Subject: Re: Presentation Collateral From VMS Technical Update Days in LondonH8 Message-ID: <fr64ht00n9n2lvmmfje3othb5j6ee6a58i@4ax.com>  @ On 25 May 2001 14:30:33 -0500, Kilgallen@eisner.decus.org.nospam (Larry Kilgallen) wrote:  t >In article <MbwP6.4580$zl5.1763095@typhoon.ne.mediaone.net>, "Terry C. Shannon" <terryshannon@mediaone.net> writes:O >> If you didn't make it to Jury's Hotel in central London for the much-vauntednK >> VMS Technical Update Days, a tasteful selection of presentations at saidV3 >> venue can be downloaded from the following site.  > & >Where is that tasteful presentation ? >hA >I looked at the page cited and found only Microsoft PowerPoint !a  D Assuming the Star Office port is completed we should be able to readA straightforward Powerpoint presentations such as these under VMS.n -- Alan   ------------------------------    Date: 28 May 2001 08:38:05 -05009 From: Kilgallen@eisner.decus.org.nospam (Larry Kilgallen)eM Subject: Re: Presentation Collateral From VMS Technical Update Days in Londons3 Message-ID: <kh$FfBS0gAsL@eisner.encompasserve.org>i  ` In article <fr64ht00n9n2lvmmfje3othb5j6ee6a58i@4ax.com>, Alan Greig <a.greig@virgin.net> writes:B > On 25 May 2001 14:30:33 -0500, Kilgallen@eisner.decus.org.nospam > (Larry Kilgallen) wrote: > u >>In article <MbwP6.4580$zl5.1763095@typhoon.ne.mediaone.net>, "Terry C. Shannon" <terryshannon@mediaone.net> writes:sP >>> If you didn't make it to Jury's Hotel in central London for the much-vauntedL >>> VMS Technical Update Days, a tasteful selection of presentations at said4 >>> venue can be downloaded from the following site. >>' >>Where is that tasteful presentation ?  >>B >>I looked at the page cited and found only Microsoft PowerPoint ! > F > Assuming the Star Office port is completed we should be able to readC > straightforward Powerpoint presentations such as these under VMS.n  J Assuming David Dachtera is chosen president of Compaq, their presentations+ will not start out in a VMS-hostile format.n  / I am not sure which of these is more likely :-)   N ==============================================================================N Great Inventors of our time: Al Gore -> Internet; Sun Microsystems -> ClustersN ==============================================================================   ------------------------------  # Date: Mon, 28 May 2001 15:21:31 GMTn4 From: "Terry C. Shannon" <terryshannon@mediaone.net>M Subject: Re: Presentation Collateral From VMS Technical Update Days in London0< Message-ID: <%1uQ6.9343$zl5.3219753@typhoon.ne.mediaone.net>  F "Larry Kilgallen" <Kilgallen@eisner.decus.org.nospam> wrote in message- news:kh$FfBS0gAsL@eisner.encompasserve.org...EE > In article <fr64ht00n9n2lvmmfje3othb5j6ee6a58i@4ax.com>, Alan Greigi <a.greig@virgin.net> writes:  H > > Assuming the Star Office port is completed we should be able to readE > > straightforward Powerpoint presentations such as these under VMS.o > L > Assuming David Dachtera is chosen president of Compaq, their presentations- > will not start out in a VMS-hostile format.  >e1 > I am not sure which of these is more likely :-)e >   J From what I hear, it's gonna be "step aside, Michael... CEO Dave is here."F StarOrifice on VMS has gone nil heard. T'was to have been an external,K free-time "midnight" project; apparently the nights are short and free timen is in even shorter supply.   ------------------------------  % Date: Mon, 28 May 2001 10:43:46 -0500n1 From: "David J. Dachtera" <djesys.nospam@fsi.net> M Subject: Re: Presentation Collateral From VMS Technical Update Days in Londonm' Message-ID: <3B127232.7B85E04B@fsi.net>i   Larry Kilgallen wrote: > b > In article <fr64ht00n9n2lvmmfje3othb5j6ee6a58i@4ax.com>, Alan Greig <a.greig@virgin.net> writes:D > > On 25 May 2001 14:30:33 -0500, Kilgallen@eisner.decus.org.nospam > > (Larry Kilgallen) wrote: > >.w > >>In article <MbwP6.4580$zl5.1763095@typhoon.ne.mediaone.net>, "Terry C. Shannon" <terryshannon@mediaone.net> writes:eR > >>> If you didn't make it to Jury's Hotel in central London for the much-vauntedN > >>> VMS Technical Update Days, a tasteful selection of presentations at said6 > >>> venue can be downloaded from the following site. > >>) > >>Where is that tasteful presentation ?t > >>D > >>I looked at the page cited and found only Microsoft PowerPoint ! > >aH > > Assuming the Star Office port is completed we should be able to readE > > straightforward Powerpoint presentations such as these under VMS.  > L > Assuming David Dachtera is chosen president of Compaq, their presentations- > will not start out in a VMS-hostile format.o > 1 > I am not sure which of these is more likely :-)a  H I've made no secret of the fact that I'm out of work in a hostile marketD - haven't been able to pay the bills on VMS consulting alone for 10+. years - but that's a bit extreme, even for me.  7 ...though I do appreciate the ":-)" vote of confidence.J  A I don't know as there is a position within Compaq with sufficient.8 influence to get Compaq OpenVMS onto the "right"* track.    *: Highly subjective term there.  A ...but if there was/is, and if the job were vacant, I'd submit myiF resume, qualified or not, just to say that I tried to do what I could.   --   David J. Dachtera7 dba DJE Systems  http://www.djesys.com/  : Unofficial Affordable OpenVMS Home Page and Message Board: http://www.djesys.com/vms/soho/   F This *IS* an OpenVMS-related newsgroup. So, a certain bias in postings is to be expected.  @ Feel free to exercise your rights of free speech and expression.  F However, attacks against individual posters, or groups of posters, are strongly discouraged.a   ------------------------------  # Date: Mon, 28 May 2001 15:38:49 GMTo! From: nkw77@hotmail.com (hourman) % Subject: Reading RMS index file on PCg2 Message-ID: <3b156fce.4255097@news.netvigator.com>  E I'm considering to read RMS index file on PC using VB/Java.  Does anymE tried this before?  Where can I find info about internal structure ofe RMS index file?o   ------------------------------  % Date: Mon, 28 May 2001 10:54:56 -0500 1 From: "David J. Dachtera" <djesys.nospam@fsi.net> ) Subject: Re: Reading RMS index file on PCh' Message-ID: <3B1274D0.77FD95BE@fsi.net>d   hourman wrote: > G > I'm considering to read RMS index file on PC using VB/Java.  Does anyoG > tried this before?  Where can I find info about internal structure ofh > RMS index file?w   Um, WOW!  > Well, there are third party RMS products for NT and UN*X. See:   http://www.accelr8.com/  http://www.sector7.com/s  E You may want to explore third-party products before re-inventing that0 wheel.  D OTH, if you're thinking about doing a freeware RMS "layer" for W/9x,A W/NT and/or UN*X, I believe the VMS programming documentation maya provide some insights. See:o  " http://www.openvms.compaq.com/doc/   -- h David J. Dachtera  dba DJE Systemsp http://www.djesys.com/  : Unofficial Affordable OpenVMS Home Page and Message Board: http://www.djesys.com/vms/soho/_  F This *IS* an OpenVMS-related newsgroup. So, a certain bias in postings is to be expected.  @ Feel free to exercise your rights of free speech and expression.  F However, attacks against individual posters, or groups of posters, are strongly discouraged.    ------------------------------  , Date: Mon, 28 May 2001 09:14:20 +0200 (CEST): From: "Gotfryd Smolik, VMS lists" <gotfryd@stanpol.com.pl>4 Subject: Re: Reinstalling Backup patch on 7.2 systemI Message-ID: <Pine.LNX.4.21.0105280853270.4682-100000@irys.stanpol.com.pl>p  - On Fri, 25 May 2001, David J. Dachtera wrote:  [...] I >+Lessee now - exactly WHAT shortcoming of VMSINSTAL was PCSI supposed to 
 >+resolve? >+E >+Maybe DCL processing an RMS indexed file or two would have sufficed E >+rather than the "PCSI database", corruption of which leads to theseK; >+ACCVIOs (as I understood the "read me" files to explain).m  )  David, will fully agree with your words.l  <  One of (IMO) VMS advantages is larger (comparing with other? OSes[1], especially un*xes) base of components available in allp' level of programming and "programming".,@  And for some operation here is NO need to have separate program? (we see here the "och, write a programm, you have something..." ;  when I disagree: the cost of writing separate program whenoB  efficiency is not a problem is too high !) - IM*H*O installation  of software is in the class !h;  And at least the "place of bugs" with .EXE (may be, excuset7 me,  ANSI C with the ASCIZ in most places) is NOT worthb< the effect :( Count the troubles of all world-wide customersB with PRODUCT and summarise; include the fact that due non-standardA file structure the customers - including all experienced managersV> - can not themself coreect manually anything - and THAT is the problem. IMHO.<  Better may be well-known services (like data in previevable@ save-sets as in old VMSINSTALL, new required resolution - b.ex. B to save state of products lists like you say with simple RMS etc.)  @ YMO, of course. But nice hear that this is not ONLY MyOpinion :)    Regards - GotfrydC [1] Win* have in the "base" something more *potentially available*: -  a limited part of database API (tables etc).nA  But, of course, any usage *requires a program*. Nothing standarde6  like command processor to get 30-second resolution... -- nE =====================================================================2F $ ON F$ERROR("LANGUAGE","ENGLISH","IN_MESSAGE").GT.F$ERROR("NORMAL") - 		THEN EXCUSE/OBJECT=MEh. $!                        GS@stanpol.zabrze.plE =====================================================================-   ------------------------------  % Date: Mon, 28 May 2001 10:36:13 -0500r1 From: "David J. Dachtera" <djesys.nospam@fsi.net> 4 Subject: Re: Reinstalling Backup patch on 7.2 system' Message-ID: <3B12706D.EF3D2844@fsi.net>e  " "Gotfryd Smolik, VMS lists" wrote: > / > On Fri, 25 May 2001, David J. Dachtera wrote:E > [...]VK > >+Lessee now - exactly WHAT shortcoming of VMSINSTAL was PCSI supposed toA > >+resolve? > >+G > >+Maybe DCL processing an RMS indexed file or two would have sufficed,G > >+rather than the "PCSI database", corruption of which leads to these1= > >+ACCVIOs (as I understood the "read me" files to explain).r > + >  David, will fully agree with your words.g > : > [snip] :( Count the troubles of all world-wide customersD > with PRODUCT and summarise; include the fact that due non-standardC > file structure the customers - including all experienced managers @ > - can not themself coreect manually anything - and THAT is the > problem. IMHO.   Agreed!0  F Perhaps what is needed (YAVWLI - Yet Another Vms Wish List Item) wouldD be a database manager that could be accessed to fix the corruptions,? whether that be a program (suggested: PCSI$DBM, PRODUCT keyword C "MANAGE"), a Datatrieve schema, or just a source file that could beeH included from SYS$EXAMPLES(?) so you COULD write your own program to try( and fix the PCSI database corruption(s).  @ From "Star Trek III: The Search For Spock" (Scotty Speaking, andH paraphrased slightly): "The more complicated the plumbing, the easier it is to stop up the drain!"s   -- s David J. Dachteras dba DJE Systemso http://www.djesys.com/  : Unofficial Affordable OpenVMS Home Page and Message Board: http://www.djesys.com/vms/soho/   F This *IS* an OpenVMS-related newsgroup. So, a certain bias in postings is to be expected.  @ Feel free to exercise your rights of free speech and expression.  F However, attacks against individual posters, or groups of posters, are strongly discouraged.    ------------------------------  % Date: Mon, 28 May 2001 02:35:09 -0400e( From: Hamlyn Mootoo <univms@bigfoot.com>C Subject: Re: Unable to Telnet & Rlogin from Solaris/HPUX to OpenVMSa+ Message-ID: <3B11F19D.F69E970D@bigfoot.com>J  W This is probably not correct, but check the TERM environment variable in the session onoS the UNIX machines.  Try setting it to something like vt100 and then try the telnet.a   HM   Shiv wrote:y   > HM:d >vR > >When you say "unable", what do you mean? What happens from the HP or Sun boxes;( > >does it hang or does it say anything?V > When i try to do a telnet/rlogin, the login prompt doesn't appear and it hangs thereV > forever after that. Find below a sample output for a 'telnet' seesion from a solaris > box to VMS box(es) inquestion  >o > sun133:> telnet vmsserv20o > Trying 145.27.54.63... > Connected to vmsserv20.m > Escape character is '^]'.  > ) > <No more output.... It just hangs here>a >l@ > >Also, to clarify, are you saying you can connect to other VMS% > >machines from the HP/Sun machines,eL > Yes, i can connect to other VMS machines in the same cluster from the same > Solaris/HPUX boxes >sA > >or that you can telnet from the other VMS machines to the ones0 > >in question running ECO 2Q > Yes, this is also happening. I can telnet from other VMS machines to the one ine > question.j >o	 > Thanks,d > Shiv >8 > Hamlyn Mootoo wrote: >MS > > When you say "unable", what do you mean? What happens from the HP or Sun boxes; S > > does it hang or does it say anything?  Also, to clarify, are you saying you can R > > connect to other VMS machines from the HP/Sun machines, or that you can telnetF > > from the other VMS machines to the ones in question running ECO 2? > >y > > HM > >  > > Shiv wrote:o > >e > > > Gurus, > > >SR > > > I'm unable to connect to our VMS servers running DIGITAL TCP/IP Services forT > > > OpenVMS Alpha Version V5.0A - ECO 2 / OpenVMS V7.2-1H1  using Telnet or Rlogin' > > > over WAN from Solaris/HPUX boxes.e > > >sR > > > But Telnet works fine if we connect from WindowsNT/OpenVMS boxes on the same > > > network. > > >sN > > > Also Telnet & Rlogin works fine with servers on the same cluster runningO > > > DIGITAL TCP/IP Services for OpenVMS Alpha Version V5.0A - ECO 1 / OpenVMS + > > > V7.2-1H1. Could ECO 2 be the culprit?b > > >d6 > > > Any help/insights will be greatly appreciated... > > >c
 > > > TIA,
 > > > Shiv > > >n >e	 > ---*---  >                       ~\\\~w >                      (`O-O')- >     _________.oOo_____( ^ )____oOo.________c. >     \                                      \/ >      \          Sivakumar Thangavelu        \a0 >       \    (Platform Technologies Group)     \0 >       |--------------------------------------|0 >       |      Oracle Corporation, (IDC)       |0 >       |       Oracle Technology Park         |0 >       |       #3, Bannerghatta Road          |0 >       |      Bangalore-560029, India         |0 >       |--------------------------------------|0 >      /  Phone: +91 (80) 552 8335 x 1056      // >     /Email: Sivakumar.Thangavelu@oracle.com / . >    /____________.oooO___Oooo.______________/ >                 (   )   (   )N >                  \ (     ) / >                   \_)   (_/i   ------------------------------  % Date: Mon, 28 May 2001 08:42:24 -0300S) From: fabio_compaq@ep-bc.petrobras.com.brI5 Subject: Re: VMS Home Automation x MS Home AutomationnL Message-ID: <OF664B1E73.A427D603-ON03256A5A.003FF8ED@ep-bc.petrobras.com.br>  I I believe Bill Gates is a fanatic for Home Automation. He use to show how  people4 can control their housings using automated software.  = The great problem nowadays is:  who has a house to automate ?   I For example: in my country there is a demand of 10  milion houses for the- poor people,I but the constructions companies are making only "sofisticated (automated)o	 buildings  for the richs".l  D For me doesnt matter if a house will be automated by Windows CE, XP, OpenVMS or QNX.s    A If there is at least a house  with ceiling ... it is enough ! ! !b   Regards    FC        J Kilgallen@eisner.decus.org.nospam (Larry Kilgallen) em 27/05/2001 10:43:17  E Favor responder a Kilgallen@eisner.decus.org.nospam (Larry Kilgallen)e             Info-VAX@Mvb.Saic.Com       ? Assunto: VMS Home Automation (was: Affordable VMS Workstations)i    ; In article <3B100CB3.C8E45BF6@fsi.net>, "David J. Dachtera"j <djesys.nospam@fsi.net> writes:s  . > I can see developing *TRUE* home automation. >eD > No, I'm not just talking about turning lights on and off by remoteI > control, or making coffee before you get up (a timer will suffice here) F > or cranking up the heat/cooling before you arise or return home fromJ > work (an automatic thermostat will suffice here, within limits), either. >HJ > I'm talking about sounding an alarm or automatically taking action under > certain circumstances:  A There is a starting point (VMS-based) provided by John Covert at:w  B      http://eisner.decus.org/DECUServe/DECnotes/VMS/3064/SDIR.HTML   ------------------------------  % Date: Mon, 28 May 2001 10:18:26 -0500 1 From: "David J. Dachtera" <djesys.nospam@fsi.net>c5 Subject: Re: VMS Home Automation x MS Home Automationt' Message-ID: <3B126C42.DC7E52C2@fsi.net>h  * fabio_compaq@ep-bc.petrobras.com.br wrote: > K > I believe Bill Gates is a fanatic for Home Automation. He use to show howo > people6 > can control their housings using automated software.  H Here again, I'm not talking about BSR X10 toys. I'm talking about safetyF and efficiency items. See http://www.x10.com/ but be forewarned: it'll& want to set a good half-dozen cookies.  o? > The great problem nowadays is:  who has a house to automate ?l > K > For example: in my country there is a demand of 10  milion houses for them > poor people,K > but the constructions companies are making only "sofisticated (automated)g > buildingsw > for the richs".   D Understood. Sometimes, it's hard to hear the affluent complain about> "nits" when the poor are sleeping in boxes, under bridges, ...  iF > For me doesnt matter if a house will be automated by Windows CE, XP, > OpenVMS or QNX.i  H If the computer BSODs or "kernel: panic"s before it can warn you about aC sudden rise in the CO count near the furnace's draft diverter, your  opinion may change.m  eC > If there is at least a house  with ceiling ... it is enough ! ! !>  F Understood. If I don't find a new job myself before the end of August,F you may need to direct mail to me and my family in care of the nearest highway overpass.p   -- e David J. Dachterat dba DJE Systems  http://www.djesys.com/  : Unofficial Affordable OpenVMS Home Page and Message Board: http://www.djesys.com/vms/soho/t  F This *IS* an OpenVMS-related newsgroup. So, a certain bias in postings is to be expected.  @ Feel free to exercise your rights of free speech and expression.  F However, attacks against individual posters, or groups of posters, are strongly discouraged.=   ------------------------------  % Date: Mon, 28 May 2001 12:25:25 -0300a) From: fabio_compaq@ep-bc.petrobras.com.brT5 Subject: Re: VMS Home Automation x MS Home AutomationRL Message-ID: <OF556A1116.B4F523E6-ON03256A5A.00545A2C@ep-bc.petrobras.com.br>   David6  4 After August ? Same here, but after August 2002 ....  ? I am looking for OpenVMS jobs  in Brazil  and they are rare ...k  E There are job sites here with 100.000 positions available and NONE ofj OpenVMS, or related ...  H There is a hope for us .... let=B4s learn checz or polish ! ! ! Oh I fo= rgot,c Portugal ish a  NATO member  ! ! !    Regardso   FC        B "David J. Dachtera" <djesys.nospam@fsi.net> em 28/05/2001 12:18:26  = Favor responder a "David J. Dachtera" <djesys.nospam@fsi.net>n             Info-VAX@Mvb.Saic.Comt      5 Assunto: Re: VMS Home Automation x MS Home Automation     * fabio_compaq@ep-bc.petrobras.com.br wrote: >cH > I believe Bill Gates is a fanatic for Home Automation. He use to show=  how > people6 > can control their housings using automated software.  H Here again, I'm not talking about BSR X10 toys. I'm talking about safet= y-F and efficiency items. See http://www.x10.com/ but be forewarned: it'll& want to set a good half-dozen cookies.  ? > The great problem nowadays is:  who has a house to automate ?L >oH > For example: in my country there is a demand of 10  milion houses for=  the > poor people,H > but the constructions companies are making only "sofisticated (automa= ted) > buildings  > for the richs".,  D Understood. Sometimes, it's hard to hear the affluent complain about> "nits" when the poor are sleeping in boxes, under bridges, ...  F > For me doesnt matter if a house will be automated by Windows CE, XP, > OpenVMS or QNX.'  H If the computer BSODs or "kernel: panic"s before it can warn you about = a,C sudden rise in the CO count near the furnace's draft diverter, yourw opinion may change.o  C > If there is at least a house  with ceiling ... it is enough ! ! !>  F Understood. If I don't find a new job myself before the end of August,F you may need to direct mail to me and my family in care of the nearest highway overpass.    -- David J. Dachteras dba DJE Systemsr http://www.djesys.com/  : Unofficial Affordable OpenVMS Home Page and Message Board: http://www.djesys.com/vms/soho/-  F This *IS* an OpenVMS-related newsgroup. So, a certain bias in postings is to be expected.  @ Feel free to exercise your rights of free speech and expression.  F However, attacks against individual posters, or groups of posters, are strongly discouraged.f         =.   ------------------------------  % Date: Mon, 28 May 2001 17:12:43 +0200h, From: Helmut Michels <michels@linmpi.mpg.de>/ Subject: [ANN] Data Plotting Library DISLIN 7.5h- Message-ID: <3B126AEA.EC38F46D@linmpi.mpg.de>   B I am pleased to announce version 7.5 of the data plotting software DISLIN.u  ; DISLIN is a high-level and easy to use plotting library for C displaying data as curves, bar graphs, pie charts, 3D-colour plots, A surfaces, contours and maps. Several output formats are supportedw; such as X11, VGA, PostScript, PDF, CGM, HPGL, TIFF and PNG.g  7 The software supports the VMS compilers C, F77 and F90.   H DISLIN distributions and manuals are available from the DISLIN Home Page        http://www.dislin.deo   and via FTP from the servere  (      ftp://ftp.gwdg.de/pub/grafik/dislin    -------------------   Helmut Michels=   Max-Planck-Institut fuer Aeronomie  Phone: +49 5556 979-334i=   Max-Planck-Str. 2                   Fax  : +49 5556 979-240tB   D-37191 Katlenburg-Lindau           Mail : michels@linmpi.mpg.de   ------------------------------    Date: 28 May 2001 18:22:51 +0100K From: pmoreau@ath.cena.fr (Patrick MOREAU, CENA Athis, Tel: 01.69.57.64.40)a5 Subject: [JPEG-2000] Jasper 1.200 codec for VMS Alphaa! Message-ID: <RNtMo630Hj8j@gaelic>u  E JasPer 1.200, a JPEG-2000 codec is available for OpenVMS Alpha at thef DECwindows Archive:r  $ http://decwarch.free.fr/decwnew.html  O JPEG-2000 is a future ISO standard for still image compression using some otheriN algorithms than actuel JPEG compression and is supposed to be "better" (betterL visual quality at the same compression ratio and better compression ratio atK the same visual quality). Future will tell which is the best... but you canf now test yourselves under VMS.  M The kit contains the sources, documentation, the license terms (actually onlyoO for non commercial usage) and OpenVms Alpha 7.2-1 binaries (built with Compaq CS
 V6.2-008).   Official site:  % http://www.ece.ubc.ca/~mdadams/jasper    Enjoy !!   Patrick/ --O ===============================================================================/O pmoreau@cena.dgac.fr  (CENA)     ______      ___   _           (Patrick MOREAU)i4 moreau_p@decus.fr (DECUS)       / /   /     / /|  /|J CENA/Athis-Mons FRANCE         / /___/     / / | / |   __   __   __   __  N BP 205                        / /         / /  |/  |  |  | |__| |__  |__| |  |N 94542 ORLY AEROGARE CEDEX    / /   ::    / /       |  |__| | \  |__  |  | |__|N http://www.ath.cena.fr/~pmoreau/            http://www.multimania.com/pmoreau/O ===============================================================================0   ------------------------------   End of INFO-VAX 2001.294 ************************