1 INFO-VAX	Tue, 29 May 2001	Volume 2001 : Issue 295       Contents:> Re: %SYSTEM-I-GSDFULL, global section descriptor table is full> Re: %SYSTEM-I-GSDFULL, global section descriptor table is full> Re: %SYSTEM-I-GSDFULL, global section descriptor table is full> Re: %SYSTEM-I-GSDFULL, global section descriptor table is full> Re: %SYSTEM-I-GSDFULL, global section descriptor table is full Re: Affordable VMS Workstations  Re: Affordable VMS Workstations 0 Re: Cobol procedure hanging writing to a mailbox* COMPAQ Service Contracts for Alpha Systems: Example (Re: Cobol procedure hanging writing to a mailbox)! FS: OpenVMS 7.2 Documentation Set 7 FS: VMS 5.4 Grey wall of documentation in new condition # Re: Humorous: Q, W2K and my surname  Re: Internals manuals  Re: Internals manuals  Re: Internals manuals  Re: IRCD for VMS Re: IRCD for VMS Re: IRCD for VMS Re: IRCD for VMS Re: IRCD for VMS Re: IRCD for VMS Re: JRE.DMP  Re: JRE.DMP 4 Latest slightly-used SKC Musings on www.acersoft.comD Re: Presentation Collateral From VMS Technical Update Days in LondonD Re: Presentation Collateral From VMS Technical Update Days in London Re: Rack mounted stuff.   Re: Reading RMS index file on PC: Re: Unable to Telnet & Rlogin from Solaris/HPUX to OpenVMS  F ----------------------------------------------------------------------  % Date: Mon, 28 May 2001 14:34:01 -0400 ( From: Hamlyn Mootoo <univms@bigfoot.com>G Subject: Re: %SYSTEM-I-GSDFULL, global section descriptor table is full + Message-ID: <3B129A19.A45CF755@bigfoot.com>   I Increase the number of global sections in sysgen or autogen (preferably),  then, reboot.  First of all, it is better to do a:* WRITE SYS$OUTPUT F$GETSYI("FREE_GBLSECTS")G which gives you a more accurate picture of the global section use. What J you looked at were global sections most likely permanently created for theB apps you have on your system. Many applications use scratch globalJ sections which you would not see at the time when you issued the $ installF list/glo/summ, due to the fact that if an application had attempted toG allocate a bunch of global sections, then bombed, the gobal sections it I did allocate would now be freed.  The above command won't show you these, B but it is still a more accurate picture of your use than $ install list/glo/summ.   HM   Peter Weaver wrote:   D > I am really trying to keep an open mind while I am testing out the1 > latest version of WEBES (Compaq Analyze) but...  > C > I received the error %SYSTEM-I-GSDFULL, global section descriptor  > table is full. > E > HELP/MESSAGE tells me "User Action:  Wait and retry the request. If H > the failure persists, notify the system manager." Every time I pick upF > the phone and phone myself I get voice mail. I leave a message, hangE > up the phone, see the message light flash, retrieve the message and ? > refuse to return the call since I don't know what to do... :)  > " > I could not find GSDFULL in DSN. > H > My SYSGEN parameter GBLSECTIONS is 970 and "INSTALL> lis/glo/sum" show? > 791 global sections used so I do not think that is a problem.  > F > AXP OpenVMS V7.2-1, WEBES V4.0 with all required patches for it. The@ > command I get the error with is "@svctools_home:[bin]ccat gui" > 0 > Can anyone tell me how to fix a GSDFULL error?   ------------------------------  % Date: Mon, 28 May 2001 15:24:31 -0400 - From: "Peter Weaver" <peter.weaver@stelco.ca> G Subject: Re: %SYSTEM-I-GSDFULL, global section descriptor table is full 4 Message-ID: <fCxQ6.242120$Z2.2712479@nnrp1.uunet.ca>  5 "Hamlyn Mootoo" <univms@bigfoot.com> wrote in message % news:3B129A19.A45CF755@bigfoot.com... = > Increase the number of global sections in sysgen or autogen 
 (preferably),  >...  ? I took GBLSECTIONS up to 2000, so I have 1,209 free. I am still  getting;  0     Exception occurred during event dispatching:     java.lang.OutOfMemoryError+     global_alloc: out of global space, file 9     USER2$:[JFEX.JFEX_VM.SRC.RUNTIME]GLOBALS.C;1, line 29   F I'm going to forward this off to one of the WEBES people. I promise toD never say anything bad about DECevent if they would just kill Compaq' Analyze and this whole WEBES garbage...    ------------------------------  % Date: Mon, 28 May 2001 15:37:46 -0400 - From: "Peter Weaver" <peter.weaver@stelco.ca> G Subject: Re: %SYSTEM-I-GSDFULL, global section descriptor table is full 4 Message-ID: <FOxQ6.242123$Z2.2712384@nnrp1.uunet.ca>  8 "Peter Weaver" <peter.weaver@stelco.ca> wrote in message. news:fCxQ6.242120$Z2.2712479@nnrp1.uunet.ca...7 > "Hamlyn Mootoo" <univms@bigfoot.com> wrote in message ' > news:3B129A19.A45CF755@bigfoot.com... ? > > Increase the number of global sections in sysgen or autogen  > (preferably),  > >... > A > I took GBLSECTIONS up to 2000, so I have 1,209 free. I am still 
 > getting; > 2 >     Exception occurred during event dispatching:  >     java.lang.OutOfMemoryError- >     global_alloc: out of global space, file ; >     USER2$:[JFEX.JFEX_VM.SRC.RUNTIME]GLOBALS.C;1, line 29  > E > I'm going to forward this off to one of the WEBES people. I promise  toF > never say anything bad about DECevent if they would just kill Compaq) > Analyze and this whole WEBES garbage...     E Sorry, I should have mentioned before the GSDFULL error was appearing B in the Process Termination record in the accounting file, the JavaA error above is what appeared in my terminal window after the CCAT  Window died.   ------------------------------  % Date: Mon, 28 May 2001 15:54:16 -0400 ( From: Hamlyn Mootoo <univms@bigfoot.com>G Subject: Re: %SYSTEM-I-GSDFULL, global section descriptor table is full + Message-ID: <3B12ACE8.B452194F@bigfoot.com>   ? Looks like you need to increase the global pages parameter now.    HM   Peter Weaver wrote:   : > "Peter Weaver" <peter.weaver@stelco.ca> wrote in message0 > news:fCxQ6.242120$Z2.2712479@nnrp1.uunet.ca...9 > > "Hamlyn Mootoo" <univms@bigfoot.com> wrote in message ) > > news:3B129A19.A45CF755@bigfoot.com... A > > > Increase the number of global sections in sysgen or autogen  > > (preferably),  > > >... > > C > > I took GBLSECTIONS up to 2000, so I have 1,209 free. I am still  > > getting; > > 4 > >     Exception occurred during event dispatching:" > >     java.lang.OutOfMemoryError/ > >     global_alloc: out of global space, file = > >     USER2$:[JFEX.JFEX_VM.SRC.RUNTIME]GLOBALS.C;1, line 29  > > G > > I'm going to forward this off to one of the WEBES people. I promise  > toH > > never say anything bad about DECevent if they would just kill Compaq+ > > Analyze and this whole WEBES garbage...  > G > Sorry, I should have mentioned before the GSDFULL error was appearing D > in the Process Termination record in the accounting file, the JavaC > error above is what appeared in my terminal window after the CCAT  > Window died.   ------------------------------  % Date: Mon, 28 May 2001 16:16:23 -0400 ( From: Hamlyn Mootoo <univms@bigfoot.com>G Subject: Re: %SYSTEM-I-GSDFULL, global section descriptor table is full + Message-ID: <3B12B216.D2EE900A@bigfoot.com>   F Also, make sure that GBLPAGFIL is sufficiently high, especially if theA stuff you are running creates a bunch of scratch global sections.    HM   Peter Weaver wrote:   : > "Peter Weaver" <peter.weaver@stelco.ca> wrote in message0 > news:fCxQ6.242120$Z2.2712479@nnrp1.uunet.ca...9 > > "Hamlyn Mootoo" <univms@bigfoot.com> wrote in message ) > > news:3B129A19.A45CF755@bigfoot.com... A > > > Increase the number of global sections in sysgen or autogen  > > (preferably),  > > >... > > C > > I took GBLSECTIONS up to 2000, so I have 1,209 free. I am still  > > getting; > > 4 > >     Exception occurred during event dispatching:" > >     java.lang.OutOfMemoryError/ > >     global_alloc: out of global space, file = > >     USER2$:[JFEX.JFEX_VM.SRC.RUNTIME]GLOBALS.C;1, line 29  > > G > > I'm going to forward this off to one of the WEBES people. I promise  > toH > > never say anything bad about DECevent if they would just kill Compaq+ > > Analyze and this whole WEBES garbage...  > G > Sorry, I should have mentioned before the GSDFULL error was appearing D > in the Process Termination record in the accounting file, the JavaC > error above is what appeared in my terminal window after the CCAT  > Window died.   ------------------------------  # Date: Mon, 28 May 2001 21:02:16 GMT $ From: Wolfgang Rupp <rupp@chello.at>( Subject: Re: Affordable VMS Workstations2 Message-ID: <s1zQ6.9374$1o2.276680@news.chello.at>  3 David Mathog <mathog@seqaxp.bio.caltech.edu> wrote: M > Much as I detest the security on Solaris, I've got to say that it's really  H > been a pleasure to be able to grab 20 or so packages and install them G > without a hiccup, without once having to modify the code.  And Compaq ; > could do well to just outright copy www.sunfreeware.com.    C Much as I like to whack Compaq over the head :-) I have to say that C the most important freeware/GNU packages come right with Tru64 on a > distribution media CD. And most of the rest is available with:C download-untar-make. So, while this may be a VMS specific issue, it  is not a Compaq specific issue.   E Since I "use" VMS only on two home computers, I don't know what comes E with a VMS media kit. As I understand from your posts, the situation  E is considerably worse compared to Unix. Maybe the Q can be made aware 
 of that fact.   
 Wolfgang Rupp    ------------------------------  # Date: Mon, 28 May 2001 22:21:21 GMT L From: winston@SSRL.SLAC.STANFORD.EDU ("Alan Winston - SSRL Admin Cmptg Mgr")( Subject: Re: Affordable VMS Workstations8 Message-ID: <009FCB12.505B6E59@SSRL04.SLAC.STANFORD.EDU>  Y In article <s1zQ6.9374$1o2.276680@news.chello.at>, Wolfgang Rupp <rupp@chello.at> writes: 4 >David Mathog <mathog@seqaxp.bio.caltech.edu> wrote:N >> Much as I detest the security on Solaris, I've got to say that it's really I >> been a pleasure to be able to grab 20 or so packages and install them  H >> without a hiccup, without once having to modify the code.  And Compaq< >> could do well to just outright copy www.sunfreeware.com.  > D >Much as I like to whack Compaq over the head :-) I have to say thatD >the most important freeware/GNU packages come right with Tru64 on a? >distribution media CD. And most of the rest is available with: D >download-untar-make. So, while this may be a VMS specific issue, it  >is not a Compaq specific issue. > F >Since I "use" VMS only on two home computers, I don't know what comesF >with a VMS media kit. As I understand from your posts, the situation F >is considerably worse compared to Unix. Maybe the Q can be made aware >of that fact.  I Hoff goes to a good deal of trouble to make up the VMS Freeware CD, which H is available on-line  and (I believe) distributed with the OS releases. , Packages in a consistent installable format.  I Where we get in trouble is with wanting to run (for various good reasons) J packages which weren't written to run on VMS and have a lot of assumptions$ about what OS they are running on.     -- Alan     O =============================================================================== 0  Alan Winston --- WINSTON@SSRL.SLAC.STANFORD.EDUM  Disclaimer: I speak only for myself, not SLAC or SSRL   Phone:  650/926-3056 M  Physical mail to: SSRL -- SLAC BIN 69, PO BOX 4349, STANFORD, CA  94309-0210 O ===============================================================================    ------------------------------  % Date: Mon, 28 May 2001 21:44:13 +0100 , From: "Richard Maher" <maher_rj@hotmail.c*m>9 Subject: Re: Cobol procedure hanging writing to a mailbox 3 Message-ID: <9eud87$lmh$1@neptunium.btinternet.com>    Hi,   J Given the information that you supplied, my best guess would be that thereH is something wrong with the process that is reading the mailbox. Sorry IJ can't be much help with your specific problem but if you have time to lookE into the $qio mailbox interface before going live then I'll provide a G working example of two COBOL programs using unidirectional mailboxes to % detect if their partner process dies.   F I'll attach the example under seperate cover I hope it is of some use.   Regards Richard Maher   + John Santos <JOHN@egh.com> wrote in message 0 news:1010526165052.37731B-100000@Ives.egh.com...( > On Sat, 26 May 2001, Kevin Erne wrote: > L > > We have a cobol procedure on VMS 7.2 . The procedure updates a few files and C > > writes to a mailbox. The files are not closed at the end of the 	 procedure C > > because it can be called several times within the same process. H > > We recently add some extra functionality to the procedure i.e. extra files  > > being updated ..9 > > Now the procedure hangs the second time it is called. C > > We have traced the 'hanging' point to the write to the mailbox. I > > We can see that the actual data is being written and when we manually  read > > this from tha mailbox  > > our processs stops hanging. , > > The write to the mailbox is via SYS$PUT. > > J > > We  managed to stop the 'hanging' by forcing the close  of all the the files  > > (except the mailbox)L > > after each call to the procedure but this takes up resource which may be a ' > > problem when the program goes live. D > > The process has a file open limt of 99 and Enqueue quota of 1200 > >  > > Any ideas ?? > E > Do a $ SHOW PROCESS/ID=xxxx/QUOTAS on the process while it is hung. C > Most likely, it is running out of "Buffered I/O byte count quota" D > (BYTLM in AUTHORIZE or /BUFFER_LIMIT in RUN/DETACHED) or "BufferedB > I/O limit" (BIOLM in AUTHORIZE or /IO_BUFFERED in RUN/DETACHED).B > Adjust the quotas using either AUTHORIZE or by changing your RUN5 > command, depending on how you start up the process.  > > > It also might be that nothing is reading the mailbox and the? > write to the mailbox is not using the "NO WAIT" modifier.  If < > this is the case, I'm not sure what you can do, other than> > ensuring that the process that reads the mail box does so in> > a timely manner, or re-writing the program to use $QIOW with= > the "No Wait" modifier (either IO$M_NOW or IO$M_NOWAIT, I'm : > not sure which for mailboxes - RTFM) instead of SYS$PUT. > ? > It is also possible that the mailbox was created (SYS$CREMBX) = > with a buffer quota equal to the normal message size, so it > > can only hold 1 message.  I think if you write to it in this: > case, the write will hang in RWMBX state until something: > reads the mailbox, freeing up space for the new message.: > If this is the case, change the SYS$CREMBX call to allow > more messages. >  > --
 > John Santos  > Evans Griffiths & Hart, Inc. > 781-861-0670 ext 539 >    ------------------------------  # Date: Mon, 28 May 2001 22:48:54 GMT + From: "Andy Proctor" <aproctor@hotmail.com> 3 Subject: COMPAQ Service Contracts for Alpha Systems 4 Message-ID: <991089829.247785@ananke.eclipse.net.uk>   All,  K Maybe someone from COMPAQ who follows this group can assist? (I have talked H with Kerry Main on this subject before, but I am of the opinion it needs further action) L I currently am responsible for our customer base worldwide customer support,K and in this position one of the things I do is place contracts with various F COMPAQ service organisations around the world, for many types of AlphaK workstation. For eg. US alone is approx $50k per annum. Not the biggest you F may say, but worldwide it ends up a lot of money. Why then are certainH COMPAQ countries singularly incapable of performing the most basic salesK functions for service contracts? I make things easier by only requiring NBD H 9x5 hardware only cover. I sometimes approach the COMPAQ service centres< directly (eg Austria - excellent service/Germany - ExcellentL Service/France - has been poor but now improving slightly) and sometimes useG 3rd party providers to effect my requirements.(for the US) However when H there is a delay or problem, it always traces back to the sales/contractK admin dept of the relevant COMPAQ country. For example, the US organisation H takes approx 3 weeks to get me a quotation, then once I issue a purchaseK order (normally same day) it can be 4 further weeks to get the contract, or H even confirmation that the order is being processed! NOT GOOD SERVICE. IL have the same (to a lesser extent) with Canada (Kerry, sorry but the problemJ still exists), Australia, Holland to shame but a few. (I can go on) I feelD that maybe I am not alone and I should bring this problem to generalJ attention. If COMPAQ want to keep customers then they should damn well getL the staff able to process quotations and orders within a reasonable time. AsJ I'm in the UK, I would expect to wait 4 days for a quote from the US, as aG maximum. Am I being unfair? After all I have money I want to spend with B COMPAQ and keep using Alpha's and OpenVMS. The inability of COMPAQK sales/contract admin is driving me away from the fine products! If there isbI someone here who can at least bypass organisations like "Global Bid", andeL bring this to the attention of more senior COMPAQ staff, please feel free to> pass this on. The situation is starting to become intolerable.     Andy Proctor# (reply address is personal address)D> Work:(remove the obvious) Andy.Proctor@deleteme.spirentcom.com   ------------------------------  % Date: Mon, 28 May 2001 21:48:07 +0100n, From: "Richard Maher" <maher_rj@hotmail.c*m>C Subject: Example (Re: Cobol procedure hanging writing to a mailbox)a3 Message-ID: <9eudfs$3t4$1@plutonium.btinternet.com>a  L If you don't get attachments then this mail won't be much use to you. 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@("!S970@=')A;G-A8W1I;VX@<F5A9"!W<FET90T*(" @(" @(" @e= M(" @(" @(')E<V5R=FEN9R!P97)S+F1E<&%R=&UE;G1S(&9O<B!S:&%R960@f= M=W)I=&4[#0H-"G!R;V-E9'5R92!U<&1A=&5?9&5P= T*(" @(" @("!S<6QCg= M;V1E#0H@(" @(" @(#ID97!T7VYA;64@(" @8VAA<B@S,"D[#0H-"B @(" @F= M(" @=7!D871E('!E<G,N9&5P87)T;65N=',-"B @(" @(" @(" @(" @("!Sn= M970@9&5P87)T;65N=%]N86UE(#T@.F1E<'1?;F%M90T*(" @(" @(" @(" @i= M(" @('=H97)E(&1E<&%R=&UE;G1?8V]D93T@)U!(4DXG.PT*#0IP<F]C961U-= M<F4@9&ES8V]N;F5C=%]D8@T*(" @(" @("!S<6QC;V1E.PT*#0H@(" @(" @ - @(&1I<V-O;FYE8W0@9&5F875L=#L-"B0)<F5T=7)N#0H`= `( end]   ------------------------------  # Date: Tue, 29 May 2001 01:16:04 GMT;$ From: Kent Rankin <krankin@usit.net>* Subject: FS: OpenVMS 7.2 Documentation Set' Message-ID: <3B12F7CE.978ACA5@usit.net>'  > 	I've got a full documentation set for OpenVMS 7.2 in like new0 condition, with Digital-labeled cardboard cases.  H 	Not sure if anyone would be interested, so I haven't typed out the list of all manuals.   H 	If anyone is interested in a particular book, the full set, etc. please/ mail me.  As for pricing, please make an offer.:     					Thanks, 					Kent Rankin   ------------------------------  # Date: Tue, 29 May 2001 00:07:03 GMT1$ From: Kent Rankin <krankin@usit.net>@ Subject: FS: VMS 5.4 Grey wall of documentation in new condition( Message-ID: <3B12E7A2.57AC9331@usit.net>  F 	The subject says it all.  It's a set of docs in binders for VMS 5.4. H They are in new condition as I just took them out of their shrink-wrap a few months ago.T  F 	Not sure if anyone would have use for these in a collection, or what, seeing as to the older version.1  H 	Anyone have any books they need in particular, or care to make an offer? on the whole set?  I can list out the specific books if you are# interested.-     					Thanks, 					Kent Rankin   ------------------------------  % Date: Mon, 28 May 2001 16:19:45 -04000, From: "J. Scott Greig" <jsgreig@geminaq.com>, Subject: Re: Humorous: Q, W2K and my surname2 Message-ID: <PmyQ6.2637$Mb7.183687@brie.direct.ca>  ? "Robert Deininger" <rdeininger@mindspring.com> wrote in message F news:rdeininger-2505011038040001@user-2iveb5h.dialup.mindspring.com...J > In article <9elp5g$25po$1@info.cs.uofs.edu>, bill@cs.scranton.edu wrote: >) >!D > > Don't confuse a bad application with (the many) OS shortcomings. > >TL > > We use OpenVMS and a commercial package for all our administration here.G > > Apparently the system can not deal with an entry for a student that  lacks]H > > a first name.  Thus we have a grad student here who's official first name > > is "Mr." > > L > > Of course, this is more a social problem than a computer problem.  It isL > > obvious that whoever wrote the application assumed everyone in the world8 > > had a name in the ussual anglo/ammerican convention. > >AL > > Reminds me of a guy I served with in the Army.  The only man I ever knewL > > who had his first name on his nametags rather than his last.  Seems evenL > > the Army didn't know that they don't list surname/familyname in the same" > > order everywhere in the world. >;K > Nothing so exotic is needed to confuse bureaucrats and their software.  I]F > happen to use my middle name, not my first name, for everyday stuff.I > "Official" forms usually want first name, middle initial, last name.  I F > put my first initial, my whole middle name (even if they don't leaveK > enough space on the form) and my last name.  Then the bureaucrats usually<I > reverse my first and middle names, or use my middle name for both first(L > and middle.  Many variations are possible.  Many trees have been killed to: > send duplicate junk mail to all permutations of my name.  F I too usze my middle name, with first intial, however, to compound the problem,= my middle name is often a surname for others, and vice-versa.X   Just think of the permutations!    J. Scott Greig >( > -- > Robert Deininger > rdeininger@mindspring.com(   ------------------------------  % Date: Mon, 28 May 2001 20:27:04 +010070 From: "Adrian Birkett" <adrian.birkett@ic24.net> Subject: Re: Internals manuals/ Message-ID: <LBxQ6.64143$662.245283@news1-hme0>n   Hi All,(  J I really require the three internals and data structures manual. I believeH that latest for VAX was 5.2 and the have been two subsequent manuals forE Alphas, one with just internals information and one including process(, scheduling information (but I may be wrong).  I I tried again in Oxford when visiting a friend at the weekend but no joy.(  L Apologies for the email address posted, I didn't realize that my news server would but that there.8  : All mails to abirkett@c.s.c.com        (remove 1st 2 dots)   Thanks,D   Ade]    6 <fabio_compaq@ep-bc.petrobras.com.br> wrote in messageF news:OF5375C0E4.B0D5D1E9-ON03256A5A.0039191E@ep-bc.petrobras.com.br...L > Compaq should  put all these manuals (OpenVMS/Alpha)  in the www.ibook.com	 > site or 2 > at  www.bh.com   in pdf format for buy/download. >-	 > Regards, >; > FC >  >  >  > > > "antonio.carlini" <arcarlini@iee.org> em 26/05/2001 19:44:41 > 9 > Favor responder a "antonio.carlini" <arcarlini@iee.org>% >4 >  >T >       Info-VAX@Mvb.Saic.Com  >  >  >!  > Assunto: Re: Internals manuals >+ >o. > I'm guessing he wanted the VMS Internals and > Data Structures manuals. >(. > The last VAX set originally came out as five0 > volumes for V5.0 and were then updated to V5.2. > and produced as a single hardback book (this > was around 70-100 UKP IIRC). >5' > Or maybe he wanted the Alpha version?( >(	 > Antonior >: >. >* >(# > steven.reece@quintiles.com wrote:  > >( > > Certainly is.( > > Part number QA-001AA-GZ.7.3  > > Reference :(A > http://www.openvms.compaq.com/doc/73final/6620/6620pro_009.html9 > > < > > Last time I saw a price they were around 1100 pounds GB.
 > > Steve. > >  > > Fabio asked: > > >>>H > > Just a question  ? > >(@ > > Is possible to buy the OpenVMS printed manuals from Compaq ? > > <<<* >* > -- >  > --------------- / > Antonio Carlini             arcarlini@iee.org( >= >u >: >+ >: >:   ------------------------------  % Date: Mon, 28 May 2001 20:25:06 +0100<+ From: "antonio.carlini" <arcarlini@iee.org>1 Subject: Re: Internals manuals' Message-ID: <3B12A612.495269A9@iee.org>9  * fabio_compaq@ep-bc.petrobras.com.br wrote: > L > Compaq should  put all these manuals (OpenVMS/Alpha)  in the www.ibook.com	 > site or92 > at  www.bh.com   in pdf format for buy/download.  7 While that would be possible for the OS and LP manuals,;+ the internals manuals are (I *think*) owned  by the publisher.5   Antonio5   -- H   ---------------E- Antonio Carlini             arcarlini@iee.org-   ------------------------------   Date: 28 May 2001 20:10:01 GMT- From: "Bill Pedersen" <pedersen@ccsscorp.com>) Subject: Re: Internals manuals0 Message-ID: <3b12b0dd$1@kerberos.linuxpuppy.net>   Well, what about this one?  L http://www.amazon.com/exec/obidos/ASIN/1555581560/qid%3D983140735/sr%3D1-4/r# ef%3Dsc%5Fb%5F4/104-0035479-6069540)  E Open VMS Alpha Internals and Data Structures : Scheduling and ProcessH Control : Version 7.0DD by Ruth E. Goldenberg, Denise E. Dumas (Contributor), Saro Saravanan   Its at Amazon...   --
 Bill PedersenQ CCSS Corporation CCSS Interactive Learning"
 www.VMS.St 831-336-2708 ================  ; "Adrian Birkett" <adrian.birkett@ic24.net> wrote in message#) news:LBxQ6.64143$662.245283@news1-hme0...+ >*	 > Hi All,8 >(L > I really require the three internals and data structures manual. I believeJ > that latest for VAX was 5.2 and the have been two subsequent manuals forG > Alphas, one with just internals information and one including process;. > scheduling information (but I may be wrong). >"K > I tried again in Oxford when visiting a friend at the weekend but no joy.T > G > Apologies for the email address posted, I didn't realize that my news= server > would but that there.  > < > All mails to abirkett@c.s.c.com        (remove 1st 2 dots) >(	 > Thanks,; >( > Ade( >+ >#8 > <fabio_compaq@ep-bc.petrobras.com.br> wrote in messageH > news:OF5375C0E4.B0D5D1E9-ON03256A5A.0039191E@ep-bc.petrobras.com.br...@ > > Compaq should  put all these manuals (OpenVMS/Alpha)  in the
 www.ibook.com  > > site or(4 > > at  www.bh.com   in pdf format for buy/download. > >( > > Regards  > >( > > FC > >  > >( > >  > >c@ > > "antonio.carlini" <arcarlini@iee.org> em 26/05/2001 19:44:41 > >;; > > Favor responder a "antonio.carlini" <arcarlini@iee.org>- > >( > >1 > >( > >       Info-VAX@Mvb.Saic.Com! > >e > >  > >0" > > Assunto: Re: Internals manuals > >- > >(0 > > I'm guessing he wanted the VMS Internals and > > Data Structures manuals. > >-0 > > The last VAX set originally came out as five2 > > volumes for V5.0 and were then updated to V5.20 > > and produced as a single hardback book (this  > > was around 70-100 UKP IIRC). > >5) > > Or maybe he wanted the Alpha version?- > >< > > Antonio  > >( > >E > >( > >9% > > steven.reece@quintiles.com wrote:! > > >) > > > Certainly is.(! > > > Part number QA-001AA-GZ.7.3( > > > Reference :(C > > http://www.openvms.compaq.com/doc/73final/6620/6620pro_009.html  > > >E> > > > Last time I saw a price they were around 1100 pounds GB. > > > Steve. > > >= > > > Fabio asked:	 > > > >>>: > > > Just a question  ? > > >1B > > > Is possible to buy the OpenVMS printed manuals from Compaq ?	 > > > <<<  > >8 > > -- > >< > > ---------------(1 > > Antonio Carlini             arcarlini@iee.org; > >  > >; > >1 > >+ > >T > >: >" >(   ------------------------------    Date: 29 May 2001 02:17:15 +0800, From: Paul Repacholi <prep@prep.synonet.com> Subject: Re: IRCD for VMS<- Message-ID: <87k831ibis.fsf@prep.synonet.com>(  / "Edward Brocklesby" <ejb@leguin.org.uk> writes:(  = >     1) I can't seem to use pipe() to implement interprocess B > communications very well on VMS.  I think I should be looking atA > Mailboxs, but Compaq's documentation (including MACRO32 example-2 > code) is a little over my head.  (relevant code:, > [ircd-hybrid-7.src]s_serv.c fork_server().  F I think you  may, in the longer run, reconsider this. VMS does not runG well with lots of processes being spawned off. Plus Mailbox IO, is, ah,<D less than stellar. Better to work towards an AST driven system, with everything in one process.  E A good example of this is the WASD httpd, http://wasd.vsm.com.au/wasd=  : BTW, it has the best interface to the help libs I've seen.  9 >     2) Is there a way to set a process name? similar to9& > run/process_name=, but using an RTL.  2 Lib$spawn has the process name as one of its args.   -- )< Paul Repacholi                               1 Crescent Rd.,7 +61 (08) 9257-1001                           Kalamunda.1@                                              West Australia 6076. Raw, Cooked or Well-done, it's all half baked.H Spam-To: uce@ftc.gov,enforcement@sec.gov,sness@fcc.gov,hfurchtg@fcc.gov,#   mpowell@fcc.gov,gtristan@fcc.gov (   ------------------------------  % Date: Mon, 28 May 2001 16:57:52 -0400(  From: John Santos <JOHN@egh.com> Subject: Re: IRCD for VMS 6 Message-ID: <1010528164935.37731A-100000@Ives.egh.com>  % On 29 May 2001, Paul Repacholi wrote:(  1 > "Edward Brocklesby" <ejb@leguin.org.uk> writes:4 > ? > >     1) I can't seem to use pipe() to implement interprocess=D > > communications very well on VMS.  I think I should be looking atC > > Mailboxs, but Compaq's documentation (including MACRO32 example84 > > code) is a little over my head.  (relevant code:. > > [ircd-hybrid-7.src]s_serv.c fork_server(). > H > I think you  may, in the longer run, reconsider this. VMS does not runI > well with lots of processes being spawned off. Plus Mailbox IO, is, ah,+F > less than stellar. Better to work towards an AST driven system, with > everything in one process. > G > A good example of this is the WASD httpd, http://wasd.vsm.com.au/wasd9 > < > BTW, it has the best interface to the help libs I've seen.  C It's a trade-off of porting effort vs. performance.  I haven't used A C pipes to do interprocess communications, but there are probablyYB some tricks to improve performance.  The bottleneck might actually@ be in spawning the process rather than in talking to it.  If so,> there are definitely things you can do to speed it up.  VMS by> default copies virtually the entire process context to spawned? subprocesses, but often you don't need all the baggage, and can - tell it not to copy the stuff you don't need.   @ The lowest-overhead method is to not spawn at all (or just spawn= once to make a pool of server processes, then assign tasks toYA them as needed), or to use threads.  This obviously involves much% more work on your part, though.*  ; > >     2) Is there a way to set a process name? similar to;( > > run/process_name=, but using an RTL. > 4 > Lib$spawn has the process name as one of its args.  C To set your processes' own name, system service sys$setprn(prcnam).>     -- 5 John Santos7 Evans Griffiths & Hart, Inc. 781-861-0670 ext 539   ------------------------------  % Date: Mon, 28 May 2001 23:18:20 +0200() From: Christof Brass <brass@infopuls.com>; Subject: Re: IRCD for VMS(, Message-ID: <3B12C09C.9C2BD7A5@infopuls.com>   Carl Perkins wrote:- > \ > In article <3B117833.E3C91D19@infopuls.com>, Christof Brass <brass@infopuls.com> writes... > }Edward Brocklesby wrote:- > }>O > }> "Brian Schenkenberger, VAXman-" <system@SendSpamHere.ORG> wrote in message1/ > }> news:009FCA39.5527206C@SendSpamHere.ORG...9P > }> > I applaud the efforts to port utilities to VMS, but many too many require > }> aP > }> > build on VMS and fail to cover the details necessary to build them.  WhatN > }> > happens then?  Bandwidth consumed with silly questions about how to get > }> theP > }> > package to compile/build successfully.  Of course, C is portable so there( > }> > shouldn't be any problems, right? > }>Q > }> I'm sorry, I won't post such things here in future.  I'm still new with VMS,(O > }> and I'm not sure of all the portability problems.  If critisism is all I'm 
 > }> going3 > }> to be offered for my efforts, then .. *shrug*.8 > }>B > }> If anyone else wants to help, feel free to mail my privately. > }> > }>     -larne- > }+) > }Not quite the "strongest" reaction ...(? > }VMS is the best OS, so you will get most out of what you are5A > }doing alone from having the pleasure to do it on VMS. Don't be C > }afraid of the somewhat professional reactions in the NG! Instead;= > }take any of the hints and recommendations and improve what(A > }you're done. Others will be happy to use your work if they can(B > }it use without having to fiddle around with compiler qualifiers
 > }a.s.o.. > @ > There was nothing professional about the reaction in question.? > A simple polite inquiry for the needed information would have9$ > been the professional thing to do. > = > People here often say that VMS needs more software. Here weX= > have someone who actually ported something to VMS. What wasQ: > the resonse? The answer to that is that the response was< > impolite and just plain stupid, unless the goal was to try= > to insure that someone who actually ported something to VMS+9 > never does so again and spreads the word to anyone else(< > interested in doing ports that they are unwanted - if that5 > was the goal then the response wasn't all that bad.T > 
 > --- Carl   :-)   @ With professional I meant mainly the people and their standards.   ------------------------------  % Date: Mon, 28 May 2001 23:26:13 +0200Y) From: Christof Brass <brass@infopuls.com>% Subject: Re: IRCD for VMS1, Message-ID: <3B12C275.942211EC@infopuls.com>   Alan Greig wrote:Q > B > On Mon, 28 May 2001 11:56:34 GMT, system@SendSpamHere.ORG (Brian! > Schenkenberger, VAXman-) wrote:$ > N > >I simply asked that brief explaination accompany a posting of some piece ofM > >software ported from some non-VMS realm.  That is not hubris.  I, for one,YN > >do not use PeeCee and Micro$oft products.  In fact, I had never touched oneM > >until about two years ago when on-site at a customer, and then it was only)N > >as a "terminal" to the VMS systems (running a terminal emulator that made aM > >real mockery of VT100 functionality).  Would posting that a PeeCee packageH > B > Sounds like HypterTerm to me which is the default VT100 emulator? > provided with all versions of Windows. It has the worst VT100( > emulation I have ever seen.=  - Is it allowed to call that a VT100 emulation?5   [SNIP]   ------------------------------   Date: 28 May 2001 18:06:09 EDT) From: cook@wvnvms.wvnet.edu (George Cook)< Subject: Re: IRCD for VMS(! Message-ID: <L2igsBQYrvgC@wvnvms>=  j In article <c5hQ6.605$Ix.5439@news11-gui.server.ntli.net>, "Edward Brocklesby" <ejb@leguin.org.uk> writes:> > "David J. Dachtera" <djesys.nospam@fsi.net> wrote in message# > news:3B119806.39730AEF@fsi.net...= >> We=J >> would need to know the exact details of your build environment (OpenVMSJ >> version, VAX or Alpha, programming language and compiler version, etc.)J >> before would be able to duplicate your success in building the program, >> much less implementing it.7 > H > Ok, well, I'll say as much as I can.  I'm testing it on an OpenVMS 7.2 > systemE > running on an AlphaStation 500, DEC C V6.0-001, MultiNet V4.3(119). . > I'm using MMK to build it (unknown version).  J If you want to see just how much of a total nightmare it can be supportingD C code on VMS, take a look at the VMS Mosaic build procedures.  TheyH will work with VAX GNU C, VAX C V3.2 and all versions of Alpha/VAX DEC CL up thru at least 6.2.  They support MultiNet (3.1 and later), UCX, SocketshrG and even CMU.  Versions of Motif as far back as 1.1 and versions of VMS I since at least 5.4 are supported.  They work with both MMK (3.4 or later)tF and MMS (not fully compatible with MMK), or can be used without eitherI one.  It takes some truly nightmarish procedures and code to provide thatvL level of support.  Some of the stuff in the .h files is virtually impossibleD to decypher without having the exact versions of C, TCP/IP and MotifG installed so that their particular .h files can be viewed.  If I had it-E to do over again, a lot of stuff like VAX C, GNU C, Socketshr and CMU  would not be supported.o  H So, my advice: don't feel like you are required to support every versionG of every required package.  If you support DEC C V6.0 and someone has a>F problem with 5.6, tell them you would be willing to consider including4 whatever fixes THEY make to get it to work with 5.6.  H There will always be some grump who makes an arrogantly snotty complaintK when your package fails to build with some unsupported version.  I actuallymE had grump complain in a very put downish manner when Mosaic failed tosE build on a field test release of Motif (which I had no way of knowing I even existed).  My advice: tell them to go to hell.  I wish I had instead" of being nice.  cL >     4) Another MMS/MMK things.. can i do "FOR"? I'd like something similar > to...w > 2 > for directory in [.src] [.tools] [.servlink]; do >   cd $directoryi >   mmk alla > done > 
 > but for VMS   C See the Mosaic top level descrip.mms for a way to do it which safesI? executing lower level descrip.mms files which do not need to ben@ executed (a major time saver with a package as large as Mosaic).  C If you are interested in allowing for different architecture (i.e., D VAX and Alpha) builds and for both non-debug and debug builds in the7 same tree, the Mosaic procedures show one way to do it.n     George Cook    ------------------------------  # Date: Mon, 28 May 2001 23:00:51 GMTn= From: system@SendSpamHere.ORG (Brian Schenkenberger, VAXman-)  Subject: Re: IRCD for VMSs0 Message-ID: <009FCB30.FA431F3B@SendSpamHere.ORG>  M In article <L2igsBQYrvgC@wvnvms>, cook@wvnvms.wvnet.edu (George Cook) writes:bk >In article <c5hQ6.605$Ix.5439@news11-gui.server.ntli.net>, "Edward Brocklesby" <ejb@leguin.org.uk> writes:n? >> "David J. Dachtera" <djesys.nospam@fsi.net> wrote in messagem$ >> news:3B119806.39730AEF@fsi.net... >>> WeK >>> would need to know the exact details of your build environment (OpenVMS K >>> version, VAX or Alpha, programming language and compiler version, etc.)gK >>> before would be able to duplicate your success in building the program,o >>> much less implementing it. >>  I >> Ok, well, I'll say as much as I can.  I'm testing it on an OpenVMS 7.2 	 >> system F >> running on an AlphaStation 500, DEC C V6.0-001, MultiNet V4.3(119)./ >> I'm using MMK to build it (unknown version).l >eK >If you want to see just how much of a total nightmare it can be supportinglE >C code on VMS, take a look at the VMS Mosaic build procedures.  TheycI >will work with VAX GNU C, VAX C V3.2 and all versions of Alpha/VAX DEC CvM >up thru at least 6.2.  They support MultiNet (3.1 and later), UCX, Socketshr H >and even CMU.  Versions of Motif as far back as 1.1 and versions of VMSJ >since at least 5.4 are supported.  They work with both MMK (3.4 or later)G >and MMS (not fully compatible with MMK), or can be used without eitherCJ >one.  It takes some truly nightmarish procedures and code to provide thatM >level of support.  Some of the stuff in the .h files is virtually impossible E >to decypher without having the exact versions of C, TCP/IP and Motif H >installed so that their particular .h files can be viewed.  If I had itF >to do over again, a lot of stuff like VAX C, GNU C, Socketshr and CMU >would not be supported. >bI >So, my advice: don't feel like you are required to support every versionsH >of every required package.  If you support DEC C V6.0 and someone has aG >problem with 5.6, tell them you would be willing to consider includingh5 >whatever fixes THEY make to get it to work with 5.6.  >kI >There will always be some grump who makes an arrogantly snotty complaintvL >when your package fails to build with some unsupported version.  I actuallyF >had grump complain in a very put downish manner when Mosaic failed to  J Who was that?   Since John chose to refer to me as a "grump", I would have) to assume you chose the word with malice.r     --O VAXman- OpenVMS APE certification number: AAA-0001     VAXman(at)TMESIS(dot)COM?            sO city, n., 1. a place where trees are cut down and streets are named after them.    ------------------------------  % Date: Mon, 28 May 2001 20:40:15 +0100 0 From: "Adrian Birkett" <adrian.birkett@ic24.net> Subject: Re: JRE.DMP/ Message-ID: <6OxQ6.64154$662.245651@news1-hme0>a   Paddy,  J Sorry to hear that you seem to be having problems with CSC. We now have anK 'almost' 24 hour hotline for VMS customers, should get better when the lastaL link comes on line. Can I suggest you mail Dave Barr (head of EVS [escalated/ VMS support] - dbarr@csc.com) with any queries.   
 Kind regards,s   Adrian Birkett VMS CofE CSC Computer Sciencesu  2 <paddy.o'brien@zzz.tg.nsw.gov.au> wrote in message/ news:01K43XQ7ZNPE000PWZ@tgmail.tg.nsw.gov.au... * > Thanks for your comments, Kari and Shiv. >-I > I also had email off-line which suggested the Java Runtime Environment.p >rJ > Kari, I tried to run anal/process but that access violated.  Hmm, should reportH > this.  [Hoff will you take a report, it often gets a bit painful going through CSCN > on software issues.] >/H > I did a dump on the first several blocks of the file, and yes it looks very much asE > you people suggested.  It has a lot of plain text relating to Java.G >eG > I have never intentionally installed Java on this system (it has been 	 suggestedPL > that some other process might have done it "behind my back").  I have none of the. > logicals or symbols set up as in JAVA$SETUP. >2J > I am now curious as to what sparked this and would like to read at least	 some part(& > of this file (other than via $dump). >d2 > It did not crash my system (ES40 with OVMS 7.2). >AK > This is now bed/alcohol time in Australia, but tomorrow I'll see if I cans readL > through the Java stuff and find any of the many .EXE's which might be able to readoJ > this dump.  It is also slightly (about 40,000 blocks in 320,000 on a 1Gb memory)T > bigger than my SYSDUMP.DMP.  >rH > I (and other colleagues) do run Netscape from unpriviliged accounts on this system D > (NETMBX and TMPMBX only) and regularly get these Java error pop-up windows. > : > Again thanks to responders and TIA for any further help. >e > Regards, Paddy >0 > Paddy O'Brien, > Transmission Development,b > TransGrid, > PO Box A1000, Sydney South,s > NSW 2000, Australiae >w > Tel:   +61 2 9284-3063 > Fax:   +61 2 9284-3050( > Email: paddy.o'brien@zzz.tg.nsw.gov.au >dG > Either "\'" or "\s" (to escape the apostrophe) seems to work for mosti people, = > but that little whizz-bang apostrophe gives me little spam.r >i   ------------------------------  # Date: Mon, 28 May 2001 21:42:07 GMT!! From: Ian Parker <parker@gol.com>: Subject: Re: JRE.DMP& Message-ID: <$$CGWDABnfE7EwgK@gol.com>  H In article <01K43K5JZNOY000PDO@tgmail.tg.nsw.gov.au>, paddy.o'brien@zzz. tg.nsw.gov.au writesI >I have just found the following file in SYS0.SYSEXE on my ES40 with VMS d >7.2:i >e5 >JRE.DMP;1                     File ID:  (15497,41,0) . >Size:       362628/362628     Owner:    [1,1]# >Created:   24-MAY-2001 13:29:59.79(' >Revised:   24-MAY-2001 13:31:21.37 (1)o >Expires:   <None specified>  >Backup:    <No backup recorded> >Effective: <None specified> >Recording: <None specified> >File organization:  Sequentialm >Shelved state:      Online ! >Caching attribute:  WritethroughoJ >File attributes:    Allocation: 362628, Extend: 0, Global buffer count: 0% >                    No version limit F >Record format:      Variable length, maximum 0 bytes, longest 0 bytes >Record attributes:  None- >RMS attributes:     None  >Journaling enabled: None > >File protection:    System:RWED, Owner:RWED, Group:RE, World: >Access Cntrl List:  Noney >Client attributes:  None  >l' >Total of 1 file, 362628/362628 blocks.c >R >IG >I have no idea what I was doing at that time, but the machine was not rJ >re-booted that day -- unlikely to be anything of significance, excepting ; >that I did have to change my IP address sometime that day.M > K >The only thing I could think to try to read this with was anal/crash, but d >it is not a system dump file. >lJ >Does anyone know where this came from, how to read it and whether I need  >it? >  >TIA >o >Regards, Paddyn >  >Paddy O'Brien,h >Transmission Development, >TransGrid,r >PO Box A1000, Sydney South,   >NSW 2000, Australia >s >Tel:   +61 2 9284-3063w >Fax:   +61 2 9284-3050 ' >Email: paddy.o'brien@zzz.tg.nsw.gov.au  > G >Either "\'" or "\s" (to escape the apostrophe) seems to work for most T >people,< >but that little whizz-bang apostrophe gives me little spam. >r  5 It may be a process dump - try analyze/process on it._   Regardsu   Ian  --  
 Ian Parker   ------------------------------  # Date: Mon, 28 May 2001 22:14:54 GMT 4 From: "Terry C. Shannon" <terryshannon@mediaone.net>= Subject: Latest slightly-used SKC Musings on www.acersoft.com < Message-ID: <y5AQ6.9507$zl5.3420524@typhoon.ne.mediaone.net>  G SKC V8N12 and V8N13 are now posted (in PDF format) on www.acersoft.com.sL Highlights include the Compaq Cutbaqs, the new "third-time's-the-charm?" SMBK strategy, and recent Alpha developments as gleaned at Diamond Forums in Newn England.  I One caveat on the Diamond Forum coverage: my characterization of the 1GHz0L EV68 upgrade to the GS-Series is NOT dead-on. It was accurate as of the dateG of publication, but the actual upgrade path is not quite as daunting as(
 indicated.  C How much less daunting? Well, you'll just have to ask a current SKCd
 subscriber...      -- Terry C. Shannon Consultant and Publisher Shannon Knows Compaq  email: terryshannon@mediaone.net$ Web (info on SKC):  www.acersoft.com   ------------------------------  + Date: Tue, 29 May 2001 01:30:06 +0000 (UTC)h  From: mustang@ucc.asn.au.invalidM Subject: Re: Presentation Collateral From VMS Technical Update Days in Londonl* Message-ID: <9euu2u$uci$1@enyo.uwa.edu.au>  5 In comp.sys.dec john nixon <jnixon@cfl.rr.com> wrote:aK : When I try to open any of the links, I get a box asking me what I want o=a pen 
 : it with. : What is the trick here?e  K :> VMS Technical Update Days, a tasteful selection of presentations at sai=i d B :> venue can be downloaded from the following site. Check 'em out! :> :>) :> http://www.compaq.co.uk/campaigns/vms/c   Even wackier is: =20e1 Compaq PCs use genuine Microsoft=AE Windows=AE=20r% www.microsoft.com/piracy/howtotell=20p  K Seriously.... does anyone doing VMS and looking to see what went down at t=n he=20p; Techical Update day care /what/ is installed on Compaq PCs?   - (...but, FYI, the page came up fine in IE5.0)    D. --=20e! I don't get mad.... I get stabby.    ------------------------------  # Date: Tue, 29 May 2001 02:11:55 GMTs4 From: "Terry C. Shannon" <terryshannon@mediaone.net>M Subject: Re: Presentation Collateral From VMS Technical Update Days in Londona< Message-ID: <LzDQ6.9613$zl5.3526557@typhoon.ne.mediaone.net>  ) :> http://www.compaq.co.uk/campaigns/vms/c   Even wackier is:  * Compaq PCs use genuine Microsoft Windows" www.microsoft.com/piracy/howtotell    D Even better is the International Debt to Bill Gates calculator. ThisL exciting cash-o-meter tells you, IN REAL TIME, just how much software piracy costs!    9 http://www.microsoft.com/piracy/howtotell/why/default.asp     L Seriously.... does anyone doing VMS and looking to see what went down at the; Techical Update day care /what/ is installed on Compaq PCs?i   Not really.i   ------------------------------    Date: 29 May 2001 02:22:47 +0800, From: Paul Repacholi <prep@prep.synonet.com>  Subject: Re: Rack mounted stuff.- Message-ID: <87g0dpib9k.fsf@prep.synonet.com>e  4 rdeininger@mindspring.com (Robert Deininger) writes:  B > Another way is to use a terminal server.  Attach each computer'sD > console port to a port on the server, and attach the VT to anotherD > port.  Properly configured, the terminal can connect to any of theA > other ports.  Terminal servers also connect to ethernet, so youl6 > could access the consoles remotely if you needed to.  E > Used terminal servers are fairly cheap, and I think a few companiesI@ > are still making new ones.  For this application, you'd want aB > server that could be could be configued to work without a remote? > boot from a computer.  You don't want the situation where the E > terminal server is inert until you get a computer going to boot ther	 > server.(  G The way to go IMO. You can plug a VT or two in for local work. I definegH each machine to have a C-node service name, so I can just 'set host/lat'+ and I've got it by the short and console :)   F Lantronix still make then, and DPNG. The 70 series are nice as you canC tuck them into an odd corner. If they would just do a disk power to  mini-Din to suit :)g   -- d< Paul Repacholi                               1 Crescent Rd.,7 +61 (08) 9257-1001                           Kalamunda. @                                              West Australia 6076. Raw, Cooked or Well-done, it's all half baked.H Spam-To: uce@ftc.gov,enforcement@sec.gov,sness@fcc.gov,hfurchtg@fcc.gov,#   mpowell@fcc.gov,gtristan@fcc.gov a   ------------------------------  % Date: Mon, 28 May 2001 12:42:32 -0700i1 From: "Randy Park" <rjpark@mindsping.nospaam.com>y) Subject: Re: Reading RMS index file on PCt2 Message-ID: <9euaa7$noj$1@slb7.atl.mindspring.net>  , hourman <nkw77@hotmail.com> wrote in message, news:3b156fce.4255097@news.netvigator.com...G > I'm considering to read RMS index file on PC using VB/Java.  Does any-G > tried this before?  Where can I find info about internal structure of  > RMS index file?-  5 I would advise against trying to directly read an RMSm1 indexed file on a PC.  I would recommend that you:3 look at a product like ConnX ( www.connx.com ) thatl0 has an ODBC and JDBC interface, allowing your to2 access RMS file that reside on your OpenVMS system
 from your PC.r   ------------------------------  % Date: Mon, 28 May 2001 21:01:13 +0200 " From: "Hans Vlems" <hvlems@iae.nl>C Subject: Re: Unable to Telnet & Rlogin from Solaris/HPUX to OpenVMSY( Message-ID: <9eu77v$p2s$1@news.IAEhv.nl>  L As soon as the  telnet session appears to hang, could you switch into telnet> command mode (^]), hit return and connect back to the session?( If you do that, do you see the $ prompt?  B I saw something similar happen on linux-to-VAX/VMS and TCPIP V5.0.   Hans  7 Shiv <Sivakumar.Thangavelu@oracle.com> wrote in message $ news:3B1113D9.471692C3@oracle.com... > Gurus, >sJ > I'm unable to connect to our VMS servers running DIGITAL TCP/IP Services for I > OpenVMS Alpha Version V5.0A - ECO 2 / OpenVMS V7.2-1H1  using Telnet or- Rlogin# > over WAN from Solaris/HPUX boxes.r > I > But Telnet works fine if we connect from WindowsNT/OpenVMS boxes on theD same
 > network. >sJ > Also Telnet & Rlogin works fine with servers on the same cluster runningK > DIGITAL TCP/IP Services for OpenVMS Alpha Version V5.0A - ECO 1 / OpenVMSi' > V7.2-1H1. Could ECO 2 be the culprit?9 >A2 > Any help/insights will be greatly appreciated... >  > TIA, > Shiv >l	 > ---*---n >                       ~\\\~A >                      (`O-O')- >     _________.oOo_____( ^ )____oOo.________ . >     \                                      \/ >      \          Sivakumar Thangavelu        \l0 >       \    (Platform Technologies Group)     \0 >       |--------------------------------------|0 >       |      Oracle Corporation, (IDC)       |0 >       |       Oracle Technology Park         |0 >       |       #3, Bannerghatta Road          |0 >       |      Bangalore-560029, India         |0 >       |--------------------------------------|0 >      /  Phone: +91 (80) 552 8335 x 1056      // >     /Email: Sivakumar.Thangavelu@oracle.com /r. >    /____________.oooO___Oooo.______________/ >                 (   )   (   )a >                  \ (     ) / >                   \_)   (_/o >d >T   ------------------------------   End of INFO-VAX 2001.295 ************************